Oh .. could that be it?
#psyker-class
wanton cove
I normally can knock them back before they jump though
Like way before
A good distance away D:
magic hull
that was my point
wanton cove
yeah I am starting to think its a bug ><
floral solstice
yeah zealot flamer fucks up burster a lot in my experience too
wanton cove
Maybe I need to record it next time I queue up. Happens every round atr this point
floral solstice
dont know much about purgatus
spice veldt
if I see a burster that just got burned by a flamethrower, I always run away from my team
floral solstice
i keep trying to tell zealots in pugs to not use flamer on bursters
no one listens anyway
and they blow up kek
wanton cove
Maybe it is something with flamer weapons.
There have been so many crazy bugs that would not be the craziest thing
floral solstice
you know what i'll try digging up what someone said to me on zealot chat before regarding this
wanton cove
Ughhh I was really hoping I was doing something wrong and there was a simple answer xD
restive solar
Im going insane because ive been trying melee weapons out and none of them feel effective
whats a good melee for a purge staff
floral solstice
FS, brumo axe
restive solar
Whats that
floral solstice
force sword, axe with brutal momentum (antax v combat axe is very good)
floral solstice
you may struggle a bit with cleaving hordes with that especially on tac axe, but should be okay-ish for single targets
restive solar
Thats kinda the goal because i got good roll purge staff
fierce sinew
fierce sinew
solid roll
fierce sinew
definitely use the warp res feat if you aren't already
you always should be but especially with that
restive solar
I dunno if i am lmao
fierce sinew
with AB and battery it's very noticeable
you'd have to run pretty hot with that warp res roll but in a dense enough horde battle meditation can do all the quelling you need
restive solar
for sure
thorny idol
What perk should I reroll?
solemn ravine
What perk should I reroll?
Probably maniac to a group dmg, like unarmored or flak
ashen schooner
mutie threw me through a spawn door into the enemy only section haha
enemies would just stand there ignoring me for about 20 seconds after they spawned in till they got active
ornate hamlet
Unarmored 
Flak is probably the best choice. Though I'd keep Maniacs, it helps against Flamers, Ragers and Trapper (marginally against Mutant I guess)
round robin
when you roll a 380 in the shop, but its a laspistol
sighh
floral solstice
no choice, you're a laspistol main now
ornate hamlet
Become the force using gunslinger
summer prairie
Melk. Too bad it's wounds, otherwise it could be perfect after rolling curio chance
ornate hamlet
Melk. Too bad it's wounds, otherwise it could be perfect after rolling curio cha...
Accept the Wounds into your Life
tender sapphire
Why is it that graphic effect of the push attack for the force sword can crash the game?
ornate hamlet
Because you should turn off all graphics settings
tender sapphire
Because you should turn off all graphics settings
It's already on the lowest on my 3080
ornate hamlet
It's already on the lowest on my 3080
Did you turn the other options off too
You might have to manually turn off some
tender sapphire
Did you turn the other options off too
Like I said, I have them all on the lowest, I know how the settings menu work thanks
ornate hamlet
Like I said, I have them all on the lowest, I know how the settings menu work th...
Then just dodge the crashes.
manic needle
Try turning off all of your graphics. And sound. And the game's scripts.
tender sapphire
Try turning off all of your graphics. And sound. And the game's scripts.
Yeah don't even start the game and it won't crash
manic needle
That's what I'm sayin'
floral solstice
i mean your name says it all
crude talon
Yeah don't even start the game and it won't crash
In all seriousness it’s probably a lack of ram or You have the game on an HDD
Idk why but that game doesn’t like HDDs idk why
In my experience
tender sapphire
In all seriousness it’s probably a lack of ram or You have the game on an HDD
m.2 ssd, 32gb ram. it's not a computer from the stone age
ornate hamlet
m.2 ssd, 32gb ram. it's not a computer from the stone age
Have you tried turning it off and on again?
forest coral
Comp diff
tired estuary
if you're leaving discord up while playing rn there's a glitch where it throttles memory on nvidia gpus
tender sapphire
I figured it out, if I press the brain burst button at the same time as the animation plays the game crashes
tender sapphire
It's repeatable for me
tender sapphire
It's repeatable for me
I wonder if it's because I changed the default keybindings, gonna have to experiment a bit more
summer prairie
Doesn't crash for me in the grinder at least
tender sapphire
Doesn't crash for me in the grinder at least
I have crashed there 10 times in a row now or something testing this
summer prairie
You do a push attack and then sometime during the animation you switch to brainburst?
with the FS
tender sapphire
I could probably make a video clip of it
tender sapphire
I could probably make a video clip of it
also it wasn't only when changing to brainburst as it turns out
compact cargo
It's funny, the force push on force sword only generates peril once u touched an enemy, otherwise it's 0%
Idk what form of spagetti causes this
https://streamable.com/zebixu
I miss it so much
As useless as it was
tender sapphire
activate windows
summer prairie
also it wasn't only when changing to brainburst as it turns out
F20?
compact cargo
activate windows
noi
tender sapphire
https://streamable.com/zebixu
I miss it so much
What do you mean?
tender sapphire
That's the old fire rate you could archieve by pressing r to cancel
Seems to work for me?
woeful pebble
aight Siblings, what perk to re-roll and to what? need some input 😄
summer prairie
ranged weak spot to flak maybe
manic needle
Trauma RMB doesnt hit weakspots so yeah
summer prairie
you already hit the poxwalker breakpoint with +8% vs horde
summer prairie
or +elite
summer prairie
actually you need +flak to two-shot scab gunners
woeful pebble
aight
idle bay
A normal store for a Psyker
summer prairie
well you have rending so it complicates the math but doesn't matter much either way
ornate hamlet
If y'all aren't buying guns on Psyker you're gonna miss out when they make gun Psyker a real subclass
Just you wait 2-4 years
manic needle
Don't worry I already have three 380 MG XII's, one 380 Shredder Autopistol, one 380 Revolver, and one 380 Autogun whose mark I can't remember
empty obsidian
does anyone know if charging the equinox mk IV increases the balls penetration aswell? or is it just the damage
manic needle
Your balls will always go deep
manic needle
I bet.
empty obsidian
alright, fuck this discord frfr
uneven drift
With pleasure.
empty obsidian
would anyone know if warp absorbtion can proc from multiple warp kills at once? if i were to kill 10 enemies with a staff would it proc 10 times or is there a fixed amount per attack?
manic needle
It can proc multiple times per projectile, as to whether there's a hard cap it's hard to test, you'd have to double check with someone who combs the code
empty obsidian
alright, ty
idle bay
And class passive Battle Meditation can proc from each of those kills as well
Very noticeable on Purgatusm when suddenly Peril starts going down while you are channeling fire
cyan notch
sometimes i full charge after 100 peril and pray i get a proc
cyan notch
anybody know how to carry/clutch the train station assasination boss room on damnation hi intensity?
its almost always a massive shit show
cyan notch
shotgunners + tons of specials + hordes + boss spamming infinite shotgun at you
yea i cleared it with people using their brain but when shit goes down its really nuts
floral solstice
i guess 1 zealot with a brain can easily draw boss aggro
maybe another zealot to flame mixed hordes
when i choose to tank the boss my team starts dying for some reason even when im tanking solo
when i choose to aim hordes + specials someone gets instagibbed by boss
idle bay
anybody know how to carry/clutch the train station assasination boss room on dam...
Out of Bounds room is still accicible? Right next to elevator
Cheese the shit out of encouter
idle bay
Boss comes there willingly. And everything else comes by 1 slowly
idle bay
He throws you even more out of bounds 🙂
cyan notch
i think people get cocky from gangbanging the boss on lower difficulty and dont block when aggroed
the fast sword combo 100-0s you very quick
idle bay
And forgetting do dodge overhead
floral solstice
also not much cover for when he starts whipping out ranged weap
unlike on magistrati with the nearby pillars
cyan notch
that ones fine cuz no specials
and hordes only come from one place
elites also easily funneled
floral solstice
yeah chasm station is probably the hardest end event on t5 hi int
baross/vigil probably the easiest
cyan notch
theres no cover either
and shit spawns evrrywhere around you
before i could just kite with quietitude deflector and farm resses
now u cant even res solo cuz boss is pumping ur ass with shotgun like a vet
floral solstice
yeah im thinking about other maps and i dont think any other maps come close
excise vault/relay station only gets annoying with gangbang hordes that random vets die to lol
refinery delta can be cheesed with door camp
speaking of high int there's a consignment one rn, played 2 flamers 1 purgatus
just dont look at ogryn's wound count
compact cargo
I'm trying to play psyker seriusly, but whenever I see 3 wound curios the crocodile inside my head:
https://\cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/381916320423215104/944336795187957780/Floridian_dog_gives_advice.mov
cyan notch
consignment yard is pretty chill just gotta camp snipers
floral solstice
mid event can be annoying if no one's killing shooters but that's it
compact cargo
u can still bunker down at the back
cyan notch
i just sit on the 2 storey and farm warp charges
then ab if no one is shooting shooters
floral solstice
for some reason some people prefer walking out during hordes
when there's a good vantage point to snipe shooters
cyan notch
forest coral
floral solstice
steve noobest vet
floral solstice
it's okay i'll just res you 3x again in a low in t5 
floral solstice
what i never
forest coral
i know 3 fat people and ur 2.5 of them with ur ogryn
floral solstice
next time i'll bring shield and brace for every fight
2 poxwalkers? don't worry im tanking
forest coral
there will be no difference in performance
Im jk bro
im still making steve chan tho
floral solstice
wait are you actually serious about that lol
floral solstice
then make an ogryn
forest coral
HMMM
floral solstice
weren't you offering to help me with malleus penance before
but you dont even have ogryn
nice jebait
forest coral
i mean
the times that an ogryn was supposed to help didnt do jack shit
so it became a run in circle simulator and that worked better
floral solstice
well that guy was an outlier
forest coral
my brain still hurts
floral solstice
im pretty sure even sedition players know how to use their weapon's special
TIL i own only one trauma staff and it's hot garbage 
forest coral
try it out
floral solstice
just when im in the mood to finally try trauma
forest coral
hue
floral solstice
i mean i actually want to run it on t5
im not that big of a griefer to run this thing that i prolly got at lower level
that's your job
floral solstice
let me see if i can even 1 shot poxwalkers with those perks lol
floral solstice
oh hey i actually can
i think the perks do the trick
takes 4 full charges to kill a scab rager
forest coral
wanna try double trauma staff run
floral solstice
NO
forest coral
h u e
floral solstice
when i get a better one
forest coral
:>
forest coral
concentrate at school 
ornate hamlet
forest coral
sweet drift
I really hope they buff the poopy ass pysker staff bash
granite mauve
I agree with the thing
sweet drift
Not take 8+ hits to kill a poxwalker would be a start
granite mauve
No need for it to kill anything
slow karma
But you're not supposed to be killing things with it
granite mauve
it's just a quick bash you can do to push things when panicking
lethal folio
Charge it with warp energy and use it as a power snooker cue.
slow karma
Make it one of those neat stagger res ignoring specials, sure.
sweet drift
it's just a quick bash you can do to push things when panicking
Animation takes way too long to be a quick bash
granite mauve
light hit is fast enough
sweet drift
autogun bashes are instant and do more dmg
slow karma
They also are not meant for damage
Bashes are meant to stagger shit to get it off of you
Sure being able to bonk a poxwalker to finish it off is kinda cool but like otherwise the move does its purpose
sweet drift
Then make the staff stagger better or make the animation not 2 seconds
granite mauve
it's not that slow
slow karma
It's slow enough to be unreliable, I'll give him that
granite mauve
only the second move is too slow
sweet drift
it's not that slow
Im going to stopwatch it rn and if its anywhere near 2 seconds i'm going to fucking eat you
slow karma
It'd be less of a rough point if it could just stagger fuckin' anything
granite mauve
You can't eat me
sweet drift
"you cant eat me" - guy who is about to get eaten
granite mauve
fool
sweet drift
would be nice if the staff could knock down gunners with the sweep attack as well
strong moth
Hello everybody, just wondering what everyone's opinion is. On higher level difficulties (hearsy and damnation) is a fire staff a good choice?
vestal fulcrum
Purgatus scales immensely with density, so yes, it is quite good a force staff
strong moth
What blessings would you recommend
shadow onyx
charge speed
floral solstice
warp nexus
vestal fulcrum
Good at killing hordes and certain elites mixed in it, as well as sometimes shooters if you treat them with warp charges-infused Psykinetic’s Wrath with Ascendant Blaze feat
floral solstice
focused channeling
vestal fulcrum
Focused Channeling is amazing
cyan notch
you dont really need focused channelling imo
floral solstice
crit chance
shadow onyx
gg
strong moth
Not sure what blessings I have on it though
I'll check it out later when I get home thanks for all the information guys
floral solstice
help
vestal fulcrum
you dont really need focused channelling imo
You definitely don’t need it if you position or dodge well, but it’s better than losing an entire charge of your staff
cyan notch
You definitely don’t need it if you position or dodge well, but it’s better than...
its only on the initial charge most of the time subsequent charges you have time and space to charge
vestal fulcrum
its only on the initial charge most of the time subsequent charges you have time...
Fair, I see your point. What would be the ideal blessings in your view, then?
cyan notch
nexus and flurry (if it worked)
vestal fulcrum
Ah yes, I was curious if Flurry worked on my Surge, but it certainly does nothing for now
floral solstice
help
welp this shit didnt turn out great
high int t5, think they were memeing as 3 people
looked like all had stubber, 3 of them low hp low ammo before first medicae
ornate hamlet
You should ask Ogryn chat if they are guilty.
manic needle
It's 40k, everyone is guilty and innocence proves nothing
forest coral
floral solstice
@forest coral my runs rn are more cursed than earlier
floral solstice
that cursed run lasted longer than what i just ran rn
forest coral
wait how
floral solstice
vet and psyker dying to the wind or something
wet jacinth
forest coral
D:
wet jacinth
I really dont understand how people die ever since I discovered Dodge sliding
Or rather why people touch T5 but get folded like omelets in seconds
crude talon
I think a lot of people hop from malice to damnation and just don’t push shove lol
And then die
idle bay
They should at least touch T4 to get a feeling of increased costs of mistakes, and then make it double for t5
leaden thunder
3 to 4 is probably the biggest jump
in diff
(at least for going up single levels)
lament topaz
Howdy schizos.
idle bay
3 to 4 is probably the biggest jump
T4 low and then regular T4 now not just feel the increased costs of kark-ups but to see increased spawn insensitivity.. like crazy increased compared to t3.
And if balls are intact then take a poke at t5 low
leaden thunder
like iirc it's mathematically the biggest jump, from 3 to 4 is a 50% increase in hp (and damage?) while 4 to 5 is only 25%
ornate hamlet
Another fun thing
Is this
https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/10f40uz/all_enemy_attacks_damage_values_healthtoughness/
According to this enemy damage mostly scales 25%/37.5%/50%/75%/100%
frigid marten
I really dont understand how people die ever since I discovered Dodge sliding
Simultaneous mixed stuff that spawn from a door behind you.
clear heath
https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/10f40uz/all_enemy_attacks_damage_valu...
wtf mutant does 0.75 damage with grab?
That explains how i died to the grab that one time
I always thought it did 0
ornate hamlet
I think its so that you can't be at 100% toughness.
Unless you regen
When they start pummeling you
old oyster
so what Psyker need mostly ? i mean toughness health or stamina ?
clear heath
It's always done so little that i've never noticed
old oyster
ruby meadow
so what Psyker need mostly ? i mean toughness health or stamina ?
A power sword is probably what they need
ruby meadow
I was joking since power sword is a Vet weapon. I like the Antax mk5
old oyster
( love quick attacks because of a Zealot mainer with knife )
old oyster
I was joking since power sword is a Vet weapon. I like the Antax mk5
but there is a similar sword
so thats why i gib that answer
old oyster
I run 1 Wound, 1 Toughness and 1 HP.
about wound i know , he need it really . but about other stuffs idk . someone takes stamina or health
someone says stamina and toughness
so im confused
cyan notch
triple health with +15 toughness from perks
uneven drift
Wounds superior by math.
cyan notch
thats some fake math
uneven drift
acoustic trench
Wounds superior by living psyker grenade
cyan notch
thanks for the gold kind stranger
ornate hamlet
Btw
The best weapon on Psyker is Laspistol
And I refuse to elaborate
Its been proven theoretically
acoustic trench
Has it been proven practically?
uneven drift
Well, las pistol best in slot in general, so no wonder.
Knife and laspistol psyker your best friend.
leaden thunder
who made that video using a macro to basically turn the laspistol into machine gun
frigid marten
Wounds superior by living psyker grenade
Glass grenade
clear heath
https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/10f40uz/all_enemy_attacks_damage_valu...
oh wtf
clear heath
12 damage
leaden thunder
I have to fight several homeless people(they are actually skinwalkers) just to get fucken milk
clear heath
plague ogryn charge doing the same damage in damnation as it does in sedition
lament topaz
clear heath
incredible
cyan notch
wtf
leaden thunder
I guess the knockback is ment to be the more dangerous part
cyan notch
that shit always puts my peril to 90+
clear heath
lmao just tank it
I've been blocking it on other characters with stamina block and had no idea if it was working cause it does so little damage anyways
idk if i blocked successfully or if i failed and I can't tell cause my hp looks the same
cyan notch
i didnt know the standing slam goes through block
ive been holding block and dodging this whole time
clear heath
yeah same
cyan notch
pretty dangerous to dodge dance since it does 128 damage with 2x lmao
one slap ur a pancake
west galleon
One of my curios has extra dockets as a perk, but i dont want to reroll 20 times to get something useful
Should i just roll?
cyan notch
yes
uneven drift
Plasteel curio when.
halcyon creek
Bug: it increases the number of missions you have to do by 20% too
north cradle
Hey that's a novel idea. A curio perk that increases plasteel and diamantine gains
lethal folio
I wonder if this goes faster than laspistol.
soft drift
yes
broken quail
Love my torrent recon, not huge fan of the other recons not enough BRRT. Been trying autopistol which is good and plays similar to recon las but autopistol doesn’t have enough ammo IMO
soft drift
it really doesn’t yeah
clear heath
https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/10f40uz/all_enemy_attacks_damage_valu...
hmm, i wonder if there's any useful toughness breakpoints we can learn from this....
Only thing i can think of is with more than 135 toughness, we can tank 3 whole shooter shots and still have toughness left to tank an extra bullet, so that might be a useful goal if you're close already
there's also the sniper breakpoints for vet/zealot i guess
cyan notch
Only thing i can think of is with more than 135 toughness, we can tank 3 whole s...
so u have enough for 3 or 4?
clear heath
oh wait there's spillover
so just 3
I guess all that does is save you from wasting the grace period proc if you're taking 3 shots
thick carbon
O O F
broken quail
Looks good to me
halcyon creek
That sword comes with cement boots
wet jacinth
balmy zealot
👀
long wharf
interesting, my Kinetic Deflection bug report was acknowledged
halcyon creek
Fatshark bug inbox be like
still hearth
interesting, my Kinetic Deflection bug report was acknowledged
Show us
long wharf
still hearth
Hell yeah
long wharf
of course, that doesn't necessarily mean anything
still hearth
At least its not: not-a-bug
long wharf
"acknowledged" could just be what they do to flag bug reports as "seen"
still hearth
They also do it on actual bugs
long wharf
well, alright
still hearth
And mark not bugs as not-a-bug so
long wharf
we'll see
latent pendant
i am sadness
still hearth
Run 'n' Gun isn't bad.
long wharf
yes it is
still hearth
You get to suppress while running
latent pendant
on surge? its terrible
still hearth
That's a bonus
long wharf
you aren't running
you're moving very slightly faster than walking
it's not sprint speed
still hearth
In that case
long wharf
it's a wasted blessing
latent pendant
Shatfark lol
long wharf
the only way Run n Gun becomes useful is if you can fire, charge up, and quell while sprinting
without slowing down
rancid spruce
Well you can still shoot your primary while running, which can help in some cases.
It's not a best in slot, but not useless
long wharf
it's effectively useless
still hearth
If you can't sprint at full speed its garbage
long wharf
aiming the primary is weird enough as it is
still hearth
If you can sprint at full speed while using primary its something
latent pendant
i think its ok on* firestaff
still hearth
Just spam and run slide
long wharf
going even faster and having your aim be off even more is pointless
rancid spruce
The aim is true, there's just a slight delay between input and projectile
balmy zealot
i am sadness
gotta wait till december for full crafting to come out and swap blessings
long wharf
You're used to doing 0 damage
not against flak and carapace
you do decent damage against flak for sure
still hearth
Well
It depends on your criteria, but its not nothing
You need 2 to kill scab shooters/stalkers still, right?
long wharf
you one shot them if you have +flak perk and they're primary targets for your surge
still hearth
That's, uh, pretty bad. Yes I know its a CC staff
That's with no charge or full charge, btw?
latent pendant
well i just wasted 800 so ill have to wait a bit to change the perk ><
latent pendant
wtb plasteel
long wharf
honestly, surge should be doing full damage to all targets
still hearth
It should at least not go down to 20%
long wharf
I really dislike the "primary vs secondary" target distinction with surge
still hearth
Its literally just the normal cleave distribution, basically.
100%, around 50% then 20/10%
I would be "that's kinda OP"
But also Purge exists
So
Inb4 they nerf Purge
long wharf
and void
and trauma
it's stupid for surge to only do max damage to at most 2 targets
that'd be like having void only do full damage to the first two enemies it hits
still hearth
Well Void and Trauma have very specific AoE tbf
Surge will always hit 6 targets if there are 6 targets.
But yeah they could just buff all the staffs a lot and I'd still say Purge is superior overall.
long wharf
purge is superior for its role
still hearth
You'd need to do some insanity to make the others catch up to how useful it is to just delete anything that isn't a Crusher by pointing at it
The role of deleting everything in close? Indeed.
manic needle
Imagine using Purgatus when they invented the Flamestorm staff 40,000 years ago smh
still hearth
What do you need to stagger that isn't almost dead by the time it touches you.
long wharf
purge doesn't kill that quickly.
still hearth
still hearth
That's fair. But I don't know if I would evaluate weapons below Damnation
long wharf
outside of high-intensity heresy or damnation, there aren't so many enemies in small spaces that the rest of the team can't deal with the groups reasonably well
purge only shines in heresy+
still hearth
I agree.
But I don't feel like it should be impossible to make all weapons do as well on all difficulties
long wharf
meanwhile, regardless of difficulty, surge stun-locks everything but bosses
still hearth
Surge is actually considerably stronger on lower difficulty.
Less enemies = more strong
That's hilarious
long wharf
and a coordinated team isn't lacking for dps, and should be paying attention to what the psyker is locking down
at the same time, the psyker should be paying attention to the most dangerous targets to the team at all times
nah, surge isn't really for killing things
still hearth
Yeah but you don't have as many targets
So you can just always stun lock every threat
long wharf
surge may have an easier time killing flak on lower difficulties, but the primary target nonsense still cripples it
true for the most part
surge is about battlefield control
and a good surge psyker makes runs easier
still hearth
Like Damnation with a million hordes and 6 ragers and 3 maulers and 2 Crushers its getting sweaty.
To be fair
I don't disagree
I think Surge, Trauma and Void are strong.
And I do think in a coordinated team they have a serious play.
Especially if you have a Zealot with Flamer, what's the point
But the Purge lets me open up areas in ways that are otherwise hard. Removing groaners and poxies makes the dangerous threats less dangerous
So I feel like Purge helps against big threats anyway
lofty sable
thank you emperor for giving me a 295 legendary surge staff at level 30 with run 'n' gun and sprint efficiency.
clear heath
holy shit lmao
still hearth
Ogrny have said that they have cosplayed as Reapers/Bulwarks
With shield/gun, and shouting BULWARK/REAPER
clear heath
also
wound player lol
halcyon creek
holy shit lmao
LIVE Jonwarhammer REACTION
full kite
does quietitude work on passive vent?
full kite
smert
lethal folio
Low warp resistance on forcesword too.
still hearth
Gotta get that peril up fast
full kite
spawned into infinite horde with two people dead and zealot on 1 hp
that was fun until we died
still hearth
I genuinely like those situations
Its fun to drop into 1 person alive
And you have to immediately dive into gamer mode
Infinite hordes are a bit much tho
halcyon creek
“How do you do, fellow Inqu-
THIS ESCALATED QUICKLY!!!!”
weak galleon
Was away for two weeks.
Reading changelogs.
Kinetic Deflection nerfed into the ground?
Was there anything in that update that buffed psyker?
manic needle
They nerfed fences and railings, does that count?
weak galleon
so that BB goes through it? Wasn't that in a patch before that?
manic needle
Nope same patch
clear heath
Was away for two weeks.
Reading changelogs.
Kinetic Deflection nerfed into the...
Trauma staff buffs
west stream
the real play is pistol and sword psyker
weak galleon
Trauma staff buffs
I'm reading peril cost changed. How does it perform on T4-5 now?
clear heath
idk, i don't play trauma
manic needle
You can cast it twice more before peril juggling
weak galleon
nice.
just in case... there were no voidstrike nerfs, right?
Aligned Equinox Mk III Trauma Force Staff and Equinox Mk IV Voidstrike Force Staff Peril costs to be more in line with each other.
this can be read both ways...
manic needle
Voidstrike costs about 5-6% more peril to cast at full charge
weak galleon
a fucking voidstrike nerf? lol.
clear heath
It doesn't seem that significant anyways
manic needle
Depends, the fact that Transfer Peril works with Quietude now is a bit of a buff
leaden thunder
didn't they also fix a bug with it as well
manic needle
If you dont have Transfer Peril... well why even bother with Void tbh? It's such a game changer that it should practically be a core mechanic of the staff
clear heath
honestly the nerf that's hitting me the hardest is deflector not working while reviving
manic needle
Yep that was the straw that broke the camel's back. Such an unnecessary change with the Kinetic Deflection nerf
Thats okay though, Sienna is still fun to play
clear heath
i can live with kinetic deflection nerf since it'd still be useful for revives
you know, if deflector still worked
I still use deflector force sword anyways, but it does suck to feel so helpless when someone is down
other classes have nades
weak galleon
so... kinetic deflection prevents you from spamming staffs while running melee, and psyker tank hit with massive nerfhammer.
trauma got rather massive buff.
voidstrike got hit with a nerf in peril cost, but can restore toughness with weakspot hits with correct build.
BB goes through rails.
eh.
okay, ty.
manic needle
I wouldnt call it a massive buff really
shadow onyx
weak galleon
I wouldnt call it a massive buff really
isn't it like half the peril cost?
manic needle
Yeah 4 strikes instead of 2 now lol
safe pendant
<:staregryn:1022085083844325376>
Molasses Mk II
weak galleon
well, another problem was that it did like fuck all damage closer to the edges of AoE, so instead of helping your team it could harm it by breaking formation and repositioning enemies without damaging them... but not everything at once, I guess.
clear heath
<:staregryn:1022085083844325376>
wow nice base
hope hadron doesn't screw you over
latent pendant
trauma doesn't feel like total shit now and thats a start!
manic needle
well, another problem was that it did like fuck all damage closer to the edges o...
Yeah its still the same staff, its arguably worse now since they nerfed +power stacking with melee blessings
There's at least one guy here who swore by it pre-patch but switched off of it after it dropped
weak galleon
...how does that work lol.
still hearth
All Psyker staffs are OP because they don't use ammo.
clear heath
psykers using staves means vets can use more ammo and deal more damage
psyker is op
manic needle
This is true, everything should deal 1 damage because without reloading thats like... INFINITE damage
still hearth
Oh yeah
latent pendant
not a fan of vet tbh. its pretty boring compared to the other options
manic needle
Yeah thats because it plays easy
still hearth
Which is fun because I get to mow down waves of shooters
While walking at them
Menacingly
clear heath
Vet is just a boring basic class with very high stats
next monolith
I haven't unlocked enough of psyker's kit yet but starting off i'm somewhat welmed
I thought head pops would be more satasfying
manic needle
Psyker is one of the classes of all time
weak galleon
I see this place also became alot more quiet than a month ago.
clear heath
barely anyone plays the game anymore
latent pendant
headpops can be kinda op
think of headpops as an auto aim sniper, i just use it to take out far threats behind cover
manic needle
That and I imagine that no one wants to play the dev's favorite punching bag tbh
Kind of an unenviable position to be in
still hearth
If you play it like this its actually fun https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/Tg6sHxXWejT66/d1337W71PZlp?invite=cr-MSxTZm8sMTYwMDY1NDYwLA
next monolith
headpops can be kinda op
I don't think they're bad at all, just doesn't make a sound or anything like I expected. The charge up, at least at base level, is really slow too so it feels like a high damage sniper rifle with a loading screen.
safe pendant
Braced autoguns my beloved
still hearth
Idk how Vets can play XII
When they have this power on their hands
Why would you want to stand 30+m away
When you can give these karkers some karkin' Emperical tough love
soft drift
bc i like shooting the shooting enemies before they shoot me
lethal plover
Idk how Vets can play XII
Different usage. Unarmored sniping vs anti-medium-armor inaccurate spraying
Latter also has more CC in terms of knockback
lethal plover
Former has better accuracy and ammo efficiency
lethal plover
Yes the Ult improves everything. Even boltgun
still hearth
And in this situation it'd take 3 minutes to clear this room for XII
They have difference niches
I'm just saying I don't get the appeal of the XII when you can literally terminate an entire room of gunners and shooters on your own
The only downside of the brauto is at like 30m+ when you have to take pot shots if you somehow can't get in range to spray
lethal plover
Yep I agree. Knockback on braced can stop dead an enemy push. Very frontline style
still hearth
Just so we're clear I'm obviously still thinking XII is better than brauto
Its pretty OP
But this? This is like distilled joy
safe pendant
More dakka is always more fun
leaden thunder
if only the xii hipfire wasn't the worst thing ever
I love pointing right at an enemy
and missing
wanton sandal
and missing
praise the omnissiah
leaden thunder
becuase the laser goes all the way to the one spot they aren't
halcyon creek
Every. Emperor-damned. Time
lethal plover
If you want fun do the combat knife revolver build for vet
I mean what else to do in the game at this point
No real challenge or endgame
safe pendant
Penances but even an entire day working at em for 5 points at a time is soul crushing
ruby meadow
I'd prob just play Zealot if I wanted to melee range people with a gun
ruby meadow
I don't think cowboys used ak47s
lofty sable
they do in my erotic fan fics
shadow onyx
based
long wharf
no point in running knife+revolver
crucian roulette was fixed
as was all other weapon blessings that still worked when not the active weapon
wanton sandal
Never seen rending shockwave
only on traumas
clear heath
Are there new blessings?
nah it's not new
wanton sandal
has been there
long wharf
warp flurry uses the same icon as rending shockwave
tiny ivy
I was so hopeful for new content 😦
rustic pewter
Do lightning staff attacks count for ranged kills?
long wharf
all staff attacks are ranged
still hearth
What if I kill them with the special
leaden thunder
lit does like 20
long wharf
I thought it just knocked things down
clear heath
i remember it doing a small amount of damage too
long wharf
there should be a penance for the psyker killing an enemy using just the staff special for 100% of the enemy's health
clear heath
someone should try beating a mission with staff bonks only
could probably beat malice
long wharf
"Hill To Die On" - Complete a mission using only a force staff's special attack (minimum one kill)
frigid marten
there should be a penance for the psyker killing an enemy using just the staff s...
a boss of course.
long wharf
that's going to be what FartShart changes Monstrous Malletorum to
clear heath
kill 4 elites with staff special within 10 seconds
halcyon creek
Make sure you do 90% of the damage to them as well
long wharf
Kill 7 enemies in 5 seconds by pushing them off a ledge with staff special
remote void
i still think they should add a penance that requires u to take a battery cell to the extraction
long wharf
Interrupt a single dreg rager's attack 5 times in a row using the force staff special
halcyon creek
i still think they should add a penance that requires u to take a battery cell t...
That would make sense, and be fun, so no
long wharf
i still think they should add a penance that requires u to take a battery cell t...
definitely room for hidden penances
What Are You Doing - extract with a teammate holding a medicae power cell
halcyon creek
Best I can do is “extract while holding a medicae power cell”
long wharf
or
halcyon creek
Nope, exclusive. You all get to fight over who can hold it
long wharf
What Are You Doing (1) - extract with medicae power cells (0/5)
halcyon creek
Your teammates will let you take the hit, so they can steal the power cell
Not-A-Bug
shadow onyx
i still think they should add a penance that requires u to take a battery cell t...
they will make this penance from meme to cancer by adding some silly extra lines like "you must never drop the cell for 20 min"
they dont care because they dont play their own game
long wharf
Useless - you must be carrying a medicae power cell for 75% of the total completed mission time
shadow onyx
not enough fatshark
long wharf
Hoarder - you must be carrying a medicae power cell for 90% of the total completed mission time
shadow onyx
carry power cell for 50 min on damnation without sprinting with less than one wound left "
more fatsharkish definition of penances
long wharf
you must slide 50 consecutive times while carrying a medicae power cell
shadow onyx
and also have 380 eviscerator with red skin
long wharf
Drop a medicae power cell due to being hit by an enemy (0/1000)
north cradle
This is just Gnome Chompski
vestal stirrup
Hey what level do you unlock the staff that lets you shoot flame?
proud mantle
what perk do i reroll on this and for what ideally
leaden thunder
groaners to unarmored or manic would be my call
proud mantle
groaners to unarmored or manic would be my call
yeah thats what i was thinking, no idea how thats a 4 star perk
is that even useful on any wep
leaden thunder
cause it effects enemies of two different hp types
groaners are unarmored and poxwalkers I want to say are infested or something like that
proud mantle
oh
leaden thunder
it's definitely worse then the elite or specialist one since it only effects 2 enemy types while those effect alot more, but it's also just better to be more specialized
long wharf
groaners and poxwalkers are the two enemy types that make up the horde
but frankly it's a bad perk
because those are the weakest enemies in the game already
leaden thunder
probably got the highest kill count though
long wharf
if you aren't one-shotting them without that perk, the weapon itself is trash
leaden thunder
eh
some weapon's don't and are decent
but they typically hit a lot of them at once
long wharf
name one
leaden thunder
Hsword
long wharf
hitting a lot of the mob and not killing it isn't ideal
leaden thunder
hitting 10 of them for a sizable amount of damage
is p good
since it's rather fast
long wharf
I'd rather hit 5 and kill those 5
leaden thunder
there are very few melee weapons
that can kill a hoard as fast as an h sword
and most other weapons aren't gonna kill 5 things in one swing since cleave doesn't work like that
leaden thunder
power sword is a massive outlier
leaden thunder
let them have it as long as my zealot gets a two handed one eventually
long wharf
I think we're at least 6 months away from the classes getting reworked/rebalanced
and a full year away from meaningful new content
leaden thunder
we'll have to see,
long wharf
there are so many bugs with existing blessings, bad blessings, missing core systems
leaden thunder
I am inclined to believe about half that time
long wharf
FartShart has an easy 6 months of work just to fix the dumpster fire that is Darktide
leaden thunder
but that's me on hopium
west stream
any tips on how to use the special ability to actually hit most enemies?
sometimes I set entire screen on fire
and others it seems nobody even staggers
it's vexxing me
long wharf
warp charges are key
the ult pushes harder with more warp charges
honestly, the 6-1 perk ought to make our ult push like a mac truck
weak enemies should go flying, not just get knocked down
west stream
ye
cobalt elm
weak enemies should go flying, not just get knocked down
like garry's mod ragdoll flying.
long wharf
yep
frank talon
2
split oxide
Or does none of that matter?
frank talon
Cloud radius is important
long wharf
second
split oxide
CloudRadius is basically 'range' not actual-cloud-radius
long wharf
cloud radius determines how far your streamed attack reaches
long wharf
CloudRadius is basically 'range' not actual-cloud-radius
it's both
rustic pewter
i wish this character had a few seconds or frames of invincibility, how many times i got picked up only to get insta killed by some fly
long wharf
you always have to quell
the faster you quell, the less down-time you have on soulblazing everything
split oxide
the faster you quell, the less down-time you have on soulblazing everything
Exacrly - other staff has +20 quell
long wharf
that doesn't make up for the difference in range
split oxide
that doesn't make up for the difference in range
😦
yeah I noticed the diff it makes.
Guess I'll have to keep managing quell
long wharf
the difference in that quell speed is going to be maybe a quarter of a second
the range isn't 0~2.5
low fossil
which staff's the 'best' again?
leaden thunder
surge and purge
west stream
Does laser pistol shove scale with stopping power?
Ghost is so good
you can facetank a horde of shooters so long you are fast enough at headshots
shadow onyx
i prefer the left one
the right*
better radius
better resist warp
terrifying barrage is pretty useless imo on purgatus
lethal folio
Thet bars do not modify laspush
near gale
Is the trauma staff any good?
My friend said he saw most psykers using it on heresy/damnation, today.
fierce sinew
"any good" is hard to assess, it's better than before
leaden thunder
you gotta be careful to not fuck up hoard placement with it too much
if that makes sense
spice veldt
I use the Trauma staff primarily as an anti-ranged weapon
I only use it for hordes if there's crushers/maulers/ragers at the front, or we really need to hold a chokepoint
lethal plover
not like there's anything left in the game besides playing with different builds
shadow wigeon
Cloud, Burn Warp Res top stats. Quell not as big a deal with Purg staff, but always nice to have.
Barrage is good for controlling anyone you happen not to stagger.
Warp Nexus: crits = soul blaze, so it's good
Does anyone know if Flurry is working/matters on Purg?
Focused I find not very important with Purg, because you're usually positioning yourself somewhere safe.
Using Trauma today for the first time, after seeing some top-talent playing with it last night. It's very strong, no doubt but still generates a lot of peril and requires management.
Focused Channel would be really nice to have.
cloud heron
Using Trauma today for the first time, after seeing some top-talent playing with...
Yeah, Peril is still the thing holding it back imo
Quicken helps a fair bit but it still doesn't feel like enough
floral solstice
does it even work
past pollen
oh yea it's significant
I do 2 quick charges to get some stacks and the third one come out very high very fast
should I get crit chance instead of elite dmg in your opinion?
something else?
leaden thunder
idk about on that staff in particular, but crit damage typcially isn't great, same deal with crits in general unless you got something that synergizes with them(ie purge staff does 2 stacks of soul blaze on it)
not the most knowledgeable about psyker stuff tho
past pollen
no I think that makes sense
floral solstice
i put crit chance on mine
long wharf
Using Trauma today for the first time, after seeing some top-talent playing with...
Oof, thinking "top talent" uses trauma
floral solstice
Cloud, Burn Warp Res top stats. Quell not as big a deal with Purg staff, but alw...
yeah focused not that important, but the choices on purg staff blessings are so limited anyway other than nexus being ideal
leaden thunder
I mean it'd not be suprising if they saw someone using it and doing well
that's how I figured out about the bull butcher on ogryn before I join this server
cloud heron
You guys ever switch to a new staff type and immediately blow yourself up in the next game?
Shit's embarrassing
west stream
sometimes, sometimes
after switching to pistol I liked how much mobility it gave so I started doing a lot of evasion while weaving inside enemies
then ran into a corner and died
also every time I pick voidstrike after not using it I perils myself
frozen osprey
You guys ever switch to a new staff type and immediately blow yourself up in the...
I almost never use my ult so i have it ready in case i fuck up
shadow wigeon
Oof, thinking "top talent" uses trauma
Did you know players are allowed to use other gear? Sometimes they even use other staffs for fun! Hard to beleive... i know...
long wharf
Sure, but when you claim "top-talent players" use X, you're implying it's not just for fun
shadow wigeon
yeah focused not that important, but the choices on purg staff blessings are so ...
I think Barrage is good, it sure feels like I am suppressing an awful lot of extra mobs with it
long wharf
yes you are, and if you don't actually think so, then you could stand to be less defensive and more receptive to learning
shadow wigeon
yes you are, and if you don't actually think so, then you could stand to be less...
When you're in a hole, stop digging. We're all here together, my man. Go back and read your comment.
long wharf
are you really that dense?
shadow wigeon
are you really that dense?
Alright, let's waste this channel's time "after seeing some top-talent playing with it last night"
This means "I saw a very good player who used the trauma staff", that's all it means.
And your reply: "Oof, thinking "top talent" uses trauma"
So maybe chill out bro, and contribute, instead of... wathever you're doing there.
forest coral
Trauma is pretty good for maps that are enclosed and have plenty of rooms/ corners
shadow wigeon
Trauma is pretty good for maps that are enclosed and have plenty of rooms/ corne...
Yeah it's pretty impressive what it can do now, but leaves you more exposed than other staves, I found. The player who was using it last night was peak-mobility, which helped a lot.
forest coral
deals with mobs to a decent degree, keeps elites floored but struggles to kill
well my main gripe with it is
leaden thunder
yeah, you just gotta make sure to not toss around the hoard too much with it
since that pisses people off
forest coral
that is one gripe
second is, purg and vs will literally do more control with proper management and more damage overall
and surge with meme rng aside does a better job at control since it doesnt yeet things all over the place
also trauma is abysmal in open areas
shadow wigeon
it's aiming is a bit jank at times as well
Yeah the aiming is bothering me less, you get used to it.
forest coral
Trauma atm is just a shittier surge staff in terms of its function atm
shadow wigeon
and surge with meme rng aside does a better job at control since it doesnt yeet ...
Trauma can control more, for longer... but with the downside of the team needing to be read y to deal wtih mobs in odd places.
forest coral
ye
shadow wigeon
Trauma atm is just a shittier surge staff in terms of its function atm
The horde clear is very strong.
shadow wigeon
hah, right
leaden thunder
hoard control is probably the right word
shadow wigeon
I have not tried it on damn yet, but heresy it's very strong.
forest coral
I have tried it on damnation
the issue with it is risk of creating hyper dense horde
lethal folio
Everything in the circle dies which is good enough for me.
forest coral
and also the damage output is laughable which can potentially grief whoever is trying to clear out elites since things are flying
leaden thunder
after using it a bit I have started to like it more then the VS
long wharf
I'd take void over trauma any day of the week
cloud heron
after using it a bit I have started to like it more then the VS
I think I also like it more than void, but I also don't like void
leaden thunder
I haven't played it up to high diffs yet
cloud heron
Trauma deals with spread out enemies better
spice veldt
if you get some practice in and throw elites into the front, it's not too bad for separating a Crusher from a horde
leaden thunder
but I liked the void on lower diffs
long wharf
trauma also spreads enemies out
forest coral
Imo it only works if someone is complimenting you with a flamer or a purg
long wharf
which is a major no-no
lethal folio
Void stops working when elites run at you.
long wharf
true, but that's when the trusty axe comes out
and teammates should be helping by focusing on elites anyways
leaden thunder
gotta have me axe
fierce sinew
it's different kind of cc, a lot of the value of surge and purge left click is not just stopping enemies from attacking but keeping them in place, making them easier to kill
long wharf
I hate how enemies are thrown around by trauma
shadow wigeon
trauma also spreads enemies out
it goes both ways, you can also zone mobs with it, you dont have to just blast them everywhere.
long wharf
and I don't have to worry about that at all with surge, purge, and void
fierce sinew
trauma on my team has often played out like more of a stasis effect in practice. The enemies stop attacking, but they stop taking damage too (by virtue of the fact that they flew everywhere)
long wharf
if you're spending time using trauma to corral enemies, you're wasting time
the team as a whole doesn't lack ways to kill enemies around the horde
shadow wigeon
trauma on my team has often played out like more of a stasis effect in practice....
the cc time is long, but the team has to be ready for it.
fierce sinew
most of the time I'd rather the enemies stayed in a pile
lethal folio
Bloody stupid that bulwarks can block the explosion.
shadow wigeon
Bloody stupid that bulwarks can block the explosion.
I noticed this a bit... you have to get it right under them.
fierce sinew
if I'm purging, the veteran is trying to click heads, and the ogryn is swinging on them trying to cleave for example, it's unclear to me who is being helped by spreading the enemies out even if they stop attacking briefly
would be better if they were knocked down in place, and only did the fun physics on kill
long wharf
if I'm purging, the veteran is trying to click heads, and the ogryn is swinging ...
nobody benefits
everyone benefits when enemies stay together for cleaving and AoE
daring nexus
I hate how enemies are thrown around by trauma
I actually like this, it’s like having a mini bullcharge you can spam
fierce sinew
if anything flipping the physics on it (implosion that pulled everything in range toward center) would be a huge buff even at the cost of damage
slow karma
inb4 pheonix derides you for being a burden on the team
long wharf
I actually like this, it’s like having a mini bullcharge you can spam
ogryn's bull rushing through a crowd for no reason other than to make them bleed is also a problem
slow karma
two for one special
daring nexus
Putting enemy’s on their ass is valuable in pretty much any situation
forest coral
if anything flipping the physics on it (implosion that pulled everything in rang...
the potential for griefing with this also kinda high 
clear heath
no sane person would take the bleed feat for bullrush
long wharf
if that was all it did, that'd be one thing
but that's not all it's doing, it's spreading out the enemies
when everyone benefits from the enemies being closer together
daring nexus
I mean sort of but that’s not really a huge deal
fierce sinew
the potential for griefing with this also kinda high <:momolaff:8434862841305497...
I've been in runs where the current function feels at least grief adjacent
shadow wigeon
But i wouldnt be calling trauma good horde clear either
I was using +25% unarmored as suggested, and I see why now. I just tried an 80% dmg with no buffs, and it does not one-shot. +unarmored and it one shots.
long wharf
I think trauma should have a higher base crit chance
and a much higher base crit damage multiplier
clear heath
I mean really, if the horde is big enough to be a threat, knocking them back is still gonna create big groups of enemies anyways
The front of the horde is just gonna clump with the back of the horde
it's just somewhat annoying for smaller groups
long wharf
what's really irritating is when you're meleeing the horde and you have it well under control because every enemy is at easy weakspot cleave level
and then the ogryn decides he needs to get in on the action and bull rushes through
and now that easy to manage horde is spread out, you aren't getting easy cleave weakspot kills
and you have to play whackamole with bodies because I refuse to turn down my ragdoll limit
clear heath
if the horde is dense enough, you'll find a dense group of enemies to cleave anyways
slow karma
Man do you just want everything to go according to kaikaku or what?
daring nexus
You can just walk in the wake of an ogryn and execute everything he knocks down in seconds
clear heath
and you have to play whackamole with bodies because I refuse to turn down my rag...
ok maybe it bothers me less because my ragdoll limit is 1
slow karma
Do you just not want anything to mix shit up ever?
long wharf
it always seems to happen when you have the horde funneling through a doorway nice and convenient