too early for this
#psyker-class
floral solstice
north cradle
What country do you live in where you're waking up now?
north cradle
That explains it. I rarely meet SEA residents who type English
floral solstice
oh, we're a lot more common than you think, but obviously not as much as NA/EU
also i'll just say this straight up, saying heavy sword is weak vs hordes compared to other melee is definitely a hot take lmao
leaden thunder
the low quality makes that more amusing
gloomy obsidian
IKR
leaden thunder
it's The Guy
cold geode
LOL
north cradle
Kid named Protagonists:
glad glade
got this in my psyker's shop. FS is making fun of me
steel egret
Most of my weapons are rifles or other joke weapons.
glad glade
glad glade
Hahaha... all hail the RNGprah
cloud heron
i hate curios so much
glad glade
How about an Autogun? Or 12 Autoguns!?
floral solstice
gachatide is real
glad glade
i hate curios so much
yesterday i blessed the same thing. -> +15 curiosity drop.
me: okay, all in. give me another blessing
hadron: +6% xp
glad glade
Fantastic.
slow karma
Curios are not impactful enough to have a strong opinion over, I will never understand that.
slow karma
I just dont know what anyone expects out of them.
They're basically gravy, they're built like "take what you get" kinda gear so just...
being upset it's notsomething else is weird.
You can roll the one really useless thing off it
cloud heron
There's take what you can get and then there's get something or get nothing
fierce sinew
that was my view before the patch, now it's my view on the non toughness regen text on them
the rest is pretty marginal QoL stuff
and marginal is definitely better than the straight up no text rolls, sure
but barely lol
slow karma
The toughness regen is a clear unintentional thing doomed to be changed and piss many people off
So you can set yourself up for that disappointment all you like
For me? I'll just focus on the main stats and take what rolls on it otherwise (except exp)
fierce sinew
in every game I play in the current patch
I'll build for the next patch when we have it
floral solstice
imagine testing the toughness regen speed fix before releasing the update
cloud heron
For me? I'll just focus on the main stats and take what rolls on it otherwise (e...
There are way more dead rolls than just xp
floral solstice
would it have hurt the devs to play the game once with the changes they plan to make lol
slow karma
Only because you're sweaty
steel egret
Well all my curios have free swappable perk.
safe pendant
I'm personally waiting on the revive speed bug that lets people insta-rez people. Block out the daemonhost kill
steel egret
just gotta roll and roll..
sinful stream
Yeah the toughness regen is absolutely stupid with ogryn rn
slow karma
again, they're not so big a deal you can even brick a fuckin curio
fierce sinew
the dead rolls are a tax on your patience more than anything
waste of plasteel and/or time
slow karma
Yeah its weird
My psyker is struggling to amass plasteel
But my still-leveling zealot has so much I can literally force at least one BiS weapon on him when I hit 30
All because I'm not spending it at all
floral solstice
the devs only play malice, hence why they don't see plasteel as a problem
slow karma
I'm pretty sure they just expected their numbers to be less off
It was clearly intended for Diarmantine to be the choke
And you'd wanna go up in difficulty to farm it more effectively
But the amount of plasteel we get out of runs just isn't supporting that
fierce sinew
I'm pretty sure they just expected their numbers to be less off
I think this is true, but a pretty baffling mistake to make
it would be so easy to make the max obtainable quantity of each match (or mismatch lower and scale up to match higher) the ratio hadron costs
rocky cedar
We still coping about toughness regen speed?
Honestly you may as well roll it it'll still be good when it's fixed
floral solstice
i honestly dont mind that it's busted rn lol
and yeah i'll most likely keep it after it gets fixed
white sky
I feel like psyker should be able to get 3 BBs off ngl
That's my only input after my limited psyker playtime
leaden thunder
just edge tzeentch
fierce sinew
I feel like psyker should be able to get 3 BBs off ngl
you won't blow up unless you start it above 97
white sky
Good to know
hardy coral
such a weird blessing combo. 
white sky
These penances are fuckin dogshit huh
hardy coral
you can get 3 BB off? the max i can get off with my build is like... 6 if i remember?
rocky cedar
such a weird blessing combo. <:ha:773577021551804479>
Kinda good in theory? Prevents suppression so you can keep reliably hitting HS
fierce sinew
I was responding to the person new to the class, not assuming feats
rocky cedar
Y'all know ghost doesn't work how it says yeah?
It's more like Camo expert. You're not literally immune to ranged fire things just choose not to shoot at you while it's active
hardy coral
it took me about a week to finish all of the Psykers Penance other then the 250 missions. im only at 62 missions total.
white sky
I was responding to the person new to the class, not assuming feats
Literally level 3 psyker rn
Ya boy just trynna get a staff
fierce sinew
that's what I figured, later if you feel like it you can get way more if you decide to tranquility+battery+kinetic barrage etc
hardy coral
if you're having trouble with the hound one its best to quick brain burst not full charge, the push one just use your push on Vigil station oblivium.
the small bridge at the end makes it super easy to push enemies off.
leaden thunder
the hound one I find it as one of the ones that you can do on accident
white sky
I honestly haven't even started the penances, can't play on malice+ with em yet
hardy coral
these two penance on this map where the 4-5 gunners/shotgunners spawn in when protecting the console thingy in the middle of the mission.
white sky
I imagine the hard one is 90 percent damage on a boss
leaden thunder
out with a bang I got on my vet
hardy coral
the 90% damage to a Monstrosity isnt all that hard its just you need a team that wont shoot the boss and will protect you or draw its attention.
white sky
out with a bang I got on my vet
Plasma?
fierce sinew
I imagine the hard one is 90 percent damage on a boss
that one's easy provided you have a group that will let you
white sky
Yeah, suppose most penances are group oriented
I got all vets solo
But that's cause vets, imo, are just "Git gud"
hardy coral
the most annoying penance ever is "Heavyweight Champion"
fierce sinew
a lot of the ones that would be cancerous for vet just happen to lend themselves more to solo or quasi solo cheesing
white sky
I see a group of 6 ogryn once or twice a day, especially on high int
fierce sinew
killing yourself to maintain perfect accuracy etc
white sky
a lot of the ones that would be cancerous for vet just happen to lend themselves...
I did em legit
Took me 4 days for MESC
I enjoy the challenge
west stream
Vets penances be like "Channel your inner Ollanius Pius" and kill them better
west stream
Also tbh you can also reconnect to a game to cheese some achievs
long wharf
oh man, you can't tell me FartShart didn't lower passive quell on melee weapons too
olive ember
oh man, you can't tell me FartShart didn't lower passive quell on melee weapons ...
Psyker was too overpowered… I mean just look at their ability to BB
clear heath
the enemies should get the chance to dodge the BB pop to keep it more fair
floral solstice
psyker staves dont use ammo, gotta nerf it
clear heath
bulwarks should be able to block brain burst with their shield
cold zinc
gaining peril also adds corruption
worthy wedge
Blowing yourself up should turn you into a demonhost
leaden thunder
gaining peril also adds corruption
right at the beginning of the open beta I was expecting it o
regal musk
gaining peril also adds corruption
I'd honestly prefer if triggering a Perils explosion just gave us the wound/corruption instead of killing us outright.
Not like the explosion damage is worth a damn anyways -_-
cyan notch
I'd honestly prefer if triggering a Perils explosion just gave us the wound/corr...
thats your punishment for exceeding 100 peril
the explosion was never meant to do shit
that penance should be removed so people dont expect it to do anything
regal musk
They likely were trying to bring this into the game.
Technically its possible for the Psyker to survive the explosion.
Losing a wound worth of health to corruption is enough of a punishment.
Especially in a world where input lag can be at fault.
Like hitting max perils, and attempting to switch to melee, but the game doesnt register the switch before you click again or even just good old actual weirdness when your BB target dies and the game just keeps charging on a new target instead of cancelling the charge so you blow up when it hits instead of just capping peril.
rose lily
why does purg suppress gunners in the psykhanium but not games?
cyan notch
nah a wound is not enough
regal musk
Then bnalance it out and have Plasma guns kill Veterens outright too /shrug
cyan notch
it does
regal musk
Interesting. I dont have a vet and i never see vets with it. So didnt know it could 😛
As far as i knew, it just dealt a bit of health damage.
cyan notch
well it doesnt kill them it downs then
unless theyre on their last wound then yea dead
rocky cedar
It drains health if you manual vent
So if anything perils is actually more forgiving
Both kill you if you overheat
regal musk
Still, Strange interpretation of the self wounding effect of both plasma and perils.
Both effects in TT just infliuct a wound, if the unit has enough wounds they can survive it.
maiden wolf
I ran a duelling sword with +1 stamina today, I think I'llgo for that perk on all my future DS'
It improves kinetic deflection block and you can sprint 50% longer AFAIK
cyan notch
Still, Strange interpretation of the self wounding effect of both plasma and per...
they just copied sienna's overheat from vt2
its the same thing exceed 100 = explode and down
cyan notch
to u yea
lethal folio
Dwarf's overheat did more damage,.
and for a long time, damage reduction would stop you dying from overheating since it was only based on your max hp.
vagrant cedar
see, every person has an opinion on what elite is 😄 this game is something else
leaden thunder
elites are gunner (shotgun and regular), orgyns, maulers and ragers, and maybe snipers
specialists are the other taggable enemies
typically they have an audio tell
fierce spoke
I find it quite humorous that the 20 headshot chain penance works for just brainbursting as psyker
leaden thunder
see, every person has an opinion on what elite is 😄 this game is something else
the main issue is that somethings that say they effect elites, effect both elites and specialists and vice versa
cyan notch
elites are gunner (shotgun and regular), orgyns, maulers and ragers, and maybe s...
snipers are specials
rocky cedar
Everything that's in a group together in meat grinder is special
Everything else taggable is elite
safe pendant
sub 30s in high intensity heresy here we go
long wharf
see, every person has an opinion on what elite is 😄 this game is something else
the great thing is opinions don't matter, just facts
there are only a handful of specials, and they all get spawned by the AI director, never pre-placed in the level with groups
rocky cedar
Yeah it's really not that complicated
rocky cedar
the main issue is that somethings that say they effect elites, effect both elite...
Yeah this is probably where most of the confusion comes from
Again the meat grinder even groups them nicely for you
maiden wolf
Hell yeah brother
cloud heron
worn heath
trauma's best perks: flak/maniac like usual?
long wharf
no perks fix trauma's real problem
maiden wolf
trauma's best perks: flak/maniac like usual?
I think trauma has a pretty high crit chance, so crit stuff might be good too
long wharf
it doesn't
no increased crit chance with trauma, has the psyker's base crit chance of 5%
and the crit damage multipliers are straight garbage
rocky cedar
trauma's best perks: flak/maniac like usual?
Infested if you want to reliably one shot poxwalkers on Damn regardless of warp charges
Flak probably best secondary perk
cloud heron
Anyone know of any news since the last update?
maiden wolf
Anyone know of any news since the last update?
Apart from the stealth nerf to deflector, no.
tender sapphire
They are cooking up more nerfs for the next patch
safe pendant
It's nerf or nothing
regal musk
Honestly, the usefulness of Purgatus should be the baseline that the other staves are brought up to.
cloud heron
i dunno, purge and flamer are really doing to the jobs of at least 2 people
rocky cedar
I'd be surprised if there's another patch this week
Next week decently likely
Pray it finally brings the rest of crafting
And yes flamers are broken
But I'd hope they nerf Zealot's before Purge
cloud heron
Yeah, Zealot has way more options
rocky cedar
Zealot in no way needs flamer to be that good
Purge doesn't have the same insane range or boss melt
Which is not a terrible trade for infinite ammo and much less down time
But it feels less offensive to me
I kinda disagree Purg effectiveness needs to be baseline though
Surge and Trauma both feel good to me
Void I just don't like, and don't use, so can't really comment on its effectiveness
cloud heron
I tried pretty hard to like the void but it just can't kill anything that's spread out
rocky cedar
TBH for what Void does I'd probably rather just have a gun
But again I never use it so I'm a bad judge of it I'm sure
regal musk
Get a smart team, Void obliterates hordes.
Get a normal rando team sctatered to the four corners of a map, Void obliterates your sanity instead.
rocky cedar
Does Void do decent single target?
Is it practical for killing elites and specials with?
cloud heron
Get a smart team, Void obliterates hordes.
Get a normal rando team sctatered to...
It's definitely not that simple. In a finale or mid mission event you can just have guys coming from too many angles. There aren't always going to be choke points to funnel them through or will be impractical to use a chokepoint
cloud heron
Is it practical for killing elites and specials with?
Also yeah, it sucks at killing elites and specials
rocky cedar
I see
regal musk
Lot easier when a smart team stays together to draw everything to one location, not necessarily specifically to funnel everything all the time.
Gets kinda irritating when the team enters a large roomn and instead of moving forward together .. They instantly scatter XD
rocky cedar
Gets kinda irritating when the team enters a large roomn and instead of moving f...
Gotta get them mats bro
I'm not even being sarcastic TBH
Fucking mat grind is real
floral solstice
gotta love that 35 plasteel after clearing baross t5
cloud heron
Lot easier when a smart team stays together to draw everything to one location, ...
I dunno, i'm not going to tell anyone that they're wrong for liking void but in my experience the fire rate is just too low to deal with most open room areas that most events take place in
regal musk
Gotta get them mats bro
I have legit seem many a team walk straight past plasteel sitting next to a crate or under a stair lol
They'll run all over opening yellow boxes and then miss the drops right in front of them XD
rocky cedar
I legit feel a bit annoyed when team is rushing Heresy and we end up getting like 80 plasteel instead of 200
Like bros checking some corners doesn't double the mission length
But rushing does halve our gains
floral solstice
imagine if chests have guaranteed plasteel instead of being empty lol
regal musk
I dunno, i'm not going to tell anyone that they're wrong for liking void but in ...
Just my opinion is all. I find Voidstrike does a lot of good work when the team is sticking together.
regal musk
imagine if chests have guaranteed plasteel instead of being empty lol
Id rather they have guaranteed emp gifts XD
cloud heron
imagine if chests have guaranteed plasteel instead of being empty lol
tbh I think this would be worse, since people would feel more compelled to open every chest
I would rather empty chests just didn't spawn
floral solstice
aka emperor's secondhand stuff
rocky cedar
I want mat rewards for mission completion scaling with difficulty
I'd rather not be too rewarded for scouring a level frankly
long wharf
that's how it should be
long wharf
find ammo in bins, crafting mats be rewards based on what you did in-mission
kill a boss? extra.
find all grims? extra.
rocky cedar
But not DH
long wharf
it's not fucking rocket science
rocky cedar
Since they're designed to be avoided
long wharf
of course DH
rocky cedar
But other bosses for sure
floral solstice
well it is more ideal to just have the mats as rewards
cloud heron
I do like that the current system functionally gives scaling rewards for progress
regal musk
Especially DH IMO.
cloud heron
instead of being all or nothing
rocky cedar
Making DH drop mats is entirely counter to its design
floral solstice
but is it really likely that they'll remove the lootable mats? considering there's many shit in the game that they missed
cloud heron
also, if damnation gave notably more plasteel than heresy, it would encourage people to play above what they're able to
rocky cedar
but is it really likely that they'll remove the lootable mats? considering there...
Lootable mats can stay, but majority should come just from completion of mission
floral solstice
oh, definitely
im just saying
with their track record
lol what else to expect
cyan notch
also, if damnation gave notably more plasteel than heresy, it would encourage pe...
it kinda does
rocky cedar
also, if damnation gave notably more plasteel than heresy, it would encourage pe...
Ideally you tweak it so when considering average player loss rate and time to complete mission Heresy is roughly optimal farm for most
Don't pollute Damn with people trying to get carried for rewards
cyan notch
cloud heron
Ideally you tweak it so when considering average player loss rate and time to co...
Yeah but people may not look at it and consider failure rate into the equation
long wharf
Lootable mats can stay, but majority should come just from completion of mission
honestly, lootable mats need to go
cyan notch
pretty big jumps almost 100
long wharf
it slows down mission runs greatly
cloud heron
damn, 310? apparently I suck at looting
cyan notch
this is the max i got once
rocky cedar
honestly, lootable mats need to go
I'd prefer it if they did too, it's just not my primary issue with the economy
regal musk
damn, 310? apparently I suck at looting
I kinda doubt every map always spawns the maximum
cloud heron
What is this chart actually measuring? An actual maximum specified to distribute around the level? Or max observed by a player testing?
cyan notch
no idea but i assume its max in the level
rocky cedar
It gets them mega hard
regal musk
If its randomizing with an upper cap only, You are actually better off spam running the lowest, because you could easily get a bad luck string and spend multiple 30+ minute runs and the map just decides to only give you 20
rocky cedar
Depends how big the range is really
rocky cedar
Yeah no way the range is that big
cloud heron
no damnation run gets you only 20
most of my silo cluster runs end with 20 plasteel
cyan notch
most of my silo cluster runs end with 20 plasteel
skill issue
regal musk
I havent done much at damnation, but i have had heresy runs with literally zero plasteel, despite me poking my nose everywhere (To the point of getting abandoned by the t eam constantly)
cloud heron
due to getting shredded going down that staircase
cyan notch
that doesnt sound right at all
regal musk
And yet .. It happens
cyan notch
i dont believe you
cloud heron
Yeah I also don't believe zero plasteel is possible
like if it did, something had to have gone wrong somehow
regal musk
Its onlyt happened twice. But many of my heresy runs come ou t with less than 50 plasteel
slow karma
I like the idea of rewarding beating a DH in the mission
cloud heron
either in level generation or connection to the server not loading it clientside or something
slow karma
But, you'd have to make those motherfuckers raidbosses in order to discourage just being a dick
cyan notch
Its onlyt happened twice. But many of my heresy runs come ou t with less than 50...
ur team just sucks
slow karma
Make it so the DH takes concerted effort and cooperation to beat. at all
Right now they just take someone able to hold up to them long enough lol
regal musk
Considering i often watch them walk past plasteel spawns, yes i'd agree.
But i also posit that there are spawn bugs that crop up occasionally.
cloud heron
Make it so the DH takes concerted effort and cooperation to beat. *at all*
besides the shield ogryn, i feel like DH already does require that.
regal musk
DH is basically a DPS check.
slow karma
Well this would require a pretty sturdy rework of them
But they're not too far off from that in general
cloud heron
DH is basically a DPS check.
It's a dps check, a team coordination check, and a dodging check
cyan notch
Considering i often watch them walk past plasteel spawns, yes i'd agree.
But i ...
not to any meaningful degree
slow karma
I'm just saying putting too much incentive on actually fighting them would just cause pugs to hunt them down and get clapped for no reason
cloud heron
It's a dps check, a team coordination check, and a dodging check
again unless you have a shield ogryn
slow karma
And I'm sorry, I'm not dealing with that
but I'd LIKE them to be rewarding to engage with
Y'know, risk/reward
There's room for it
regal musk
Most DH caused failures result from the team just abandoning whoever triggered it when it would have been easier for teh team to just kill it.
slow karma
That's assuming they know how
There's phases of it that it doesn't seem to take damage at all
And while I know how they work now, I sure as shit didn't before
Plus, that also requires good damage
There's a lot of variables at play you can't expect out of a pug
regal musk
I have never had a DH wipe a team with all 4 players fighting. Its always when one of more of the team hides instead of engaging
I actually discovered once that the DH will straight up despawn if you tank it long enough
cloud heron
I have never had a DH wipe a team with all 4 players fighting. Its always when o...
Sometimes there are other things going on that need dealt with. Also, not every setup will even allow you to tank a DH
slow karma
^^^
cloud heron
like a veteran with a power sword would stand no chance whatsoever.
slow karma
This game is entirely too frantic for that sometimes
Like, I know how this sounds in general. Not focusing down anything at all leads to stagnant ideas.
But things are such a crapshoot even on Malice so often that I'd rather an rng element not run the risk of just ruining the experience for folks that can't game with premades
long wharf
Malice never gets too frantic for coordinate team effort
never
honestly, balancing the game around Malice is stupid
slow karma
Excuse me but not everyone is going to play up to your standard
long wharf
it's not about playing to my standards
cloud heron
Malice never gets too frantic for coordinate team effort
You're saying that from the perspective of someone that's presumably good at the game and not someone that needs to be playing on malice
long wharf
have fun, go nuts, enjoy Malice
but the balance needs to accomodate people playing heresy+
slow karma
I've had enough failures and near-misses in malice to know that making DH spawns too heavily incentivized would be too much of a headache for randos
regal musk
Balancing for Damnation wont even change how Malice plays out tbh lol
slow karma
I don't want to fucking deal with that, so I'd rather hedge the potential for things to just go utterly south
that's all I'm advocating for
regal musk
So no reason to focus on Malice for balance purposes. Making it so all classes reaosnably equal in Damnation makes them definitely equal for lower content.
slow karma
Well no, but malice is my comfort zone. It was mostly just an example
I've had too many bad runs on that difficulty
long wharf
Well no, but malice is my comfort zone. It was mostly just an example
and there's nothing wrong with that - but balancing the game around your comfort zone isn't the right approach
slow karma
If I can have bad shit happen on that one in pug, herecy+ is a fucking lost cause lmao
long wharf
the game needs to be balanced against the highest difficulty
and let everyone enjoy doing what the fuck ever they want below that
slow karma
Well the highest difficulty also needs to not be dogshit
So lets take this one step at a time
long wharf
honestly, damnation isn't dogshit
in a coordinate, communicating team
but you can't bring bullshit gear and builds into damnation
fierce sinew
what
cyan notch
how are u gonna play with other players if it wasnt online lol
cyan notch
????
long wharf
I'm all for people being able to play by themselves, but this genre lives on players playing together
regal musk
Just wait until they let you do private solo runs then i guess?
cyan notch
so you just wanna play with bots against bots?
slow karma
I just want to not be considered second class because I have no gaming clique.
long wharf
you aren't second class
fierce sinew
you can pug damnation
long wharf
you're just alone
cyan notch
wdym second class
slow karma
You couldn't pay me to pug damnation
long wharf
the game has to be balanced against full groups of players
cyan notch
you have access to everything anyone has
slow karma
Nvm, I don't think I'm being clear enough.
long wharf
it honestly sounds like you're just bitter that you don't feel comfortable playing above Malice
slow karma
And I haven't the words to explain my mindset
I'm comfortable enough on Heresy actually, I just don't like how damnation feels
and that's clearly not anyone else's concern so It's just going to feel like shit
cyan notch
i mean thats fine but how is that second class
fierce sinew
it's fine to dislike this genre of game, but I don't think it's reasonable to balance said game around that preference
slow karma
Forget it
cyan notch
you dont need to enjoy damnation
fierce sinew
just deciding a priori that you dislike damnation without ever having played it is kind of weirdge though
slow karma
Do you really think I just dipped my toe in once and left it at that?
long wharf
honestly, damnation can feel easier than heresy right now
something is still fucked up with heresy
slow karma
My shit isn't strong enough to handle that and with the crafting material spread the way it is, I'm steering clear of it permanently
regal musk
How so?
slow karma
But it also doesn't incentivize going up that high.
lethal folio
I like high spawn rates over inflated health.
regal musk
I like high spawn rates over inflated health.
Doesnt damnation/heresy do both? Thats literally the problem with scaling that BB has lol
slow karma
I like not having y entire toughness bar ripped off from pot shots from a gunner behind cover
Without concerted effort, I can't stand up to the chaos
fierce sinew
honestly, damnation can feel easier than heresy right now
I've noticed the same thing and put it down to different segments of the playerbase
slow karma
That and my gear is all still quite mid
long wharf
you're not expected to stand up to the chaos by yourself
you're supposed to work with your team
lethal folio
Heresy health is low enough that headshots kill most things.
slow karma
No, i'm not but this is in a pug context
long wharf
and that makes all of your complaints pointless
lethal folio
Damnation I need well rolled guns for that.
slow karma
where you kinda do have to be able to for at least a little bit if shit goes wrong
long wharf
because you'd have a very different perspective if you played with an actual group of people that you chatted and worked with
I'm not even talking about a regular group
just hit LFG and find some people that want to play heresy+ and be communicative
it really isn't that hard
fierce sinew
this game has a lot of ui elements that streamline communication and teamwork in the ping system and wheel
long wharf
the part where you take the effort to change your experience?
that's all on you, bub.
slow karma
No the part where I rely on other people to make my experience better
cyan notch
he doesnt have to though
slow karma
Least of all other people n the internet
cyan notch
you dont have to play damnation
regal musk
Welcome to coop gaming...?
cyan notch
or heresy or malice
long wharf
it's not "making your experience better", it's "an entirely different experience"
holy shit
slow karma
with no fucking filters and a propensity for bigotry
I sure will not be doing that anymore
I've done it enough
long wharf
with no fucking filters and a propensity for bigotry
what the fuck are you on about?
the average person isn't like that
slow karma
Says you
long wharf
yeah, says me
slow karma
My experiences in general, and in this server predominantly, have spoken otherwise
cyan notch
thats fair enough if you dont wanna join lfg
long wharf
and my 30 fucking years of playing games with other people
cyan notch
maybe his experience was different its fine
long wharf
I've been playing games online since before being online was a common thing
and even if you look at more recent typical online behavior, sure you get the asshats, but the average person hates that behavior already
slow karma
This all started because we wanted mats to be mission rewards.
long wharf
and the community that forms around a game is heavily influenced by the target age group
fierce sinew
If words on a screen can actually make you uncomfortable then I agree, you should probably not be online
long wharf
it sounds like you just can't handle people
slow karma
And all I wanted was to make sure daemonhosts were both properly rewarding and balanced to dissuade unprepared combat
No, no I cannot. And yet, I have to.
long wharf
welcome to life
slow karma
So I save that energy for when I have no choice
long wharf
and not living in seclusion in a forest
cyan notch
it does dissuade unprepared combat rn doesnt it
slow karma
Barely
long wharf
and DH already dissuade unprepared groups
slow karma
But right now wasn't the context I was working around
long wharf
as it'll kill half the party if you aren't ready
restive solar
any good?
fierce sinew
can can dissuade further by votekicking people that wake them without saying anything in chat beforehand if you want
cyan notch
most people do it by accident and theyre already punished by dying for it lmao
regal musk
Crit is usually the most suggested perk for it
cyan notch
any better perks?
why did u keep stamina btw
fierce sinew
yeah I'm wondering what the other was that made you want the stam
restive solar
why did u keep stamina btw
It was either that or 18% crit
long wharf
18% crit?
fierce sinew
I don't think that's a thing
long wharf
yeah it's not
restive solar
range crit damage
long wharf
8%
fierce sinew
isn't that 10 for tier 4?
cyan notch
yea thats pretty shit too
spice veldt
i'd probably have stuck with ranged crit damage since your relative stamina now regens slower, and it's better to run with your BB out imo
but that's just a minor nitpick
fierce sinew
you melee weapon has to be pretty sad if you're not running with that out
spice veldt
FS :(
restive solar
dang
spice veldt
80% mobil but having 6 bars with BB out over 3 seems to be better
and BB run speed isn't too bad
restive solar
I havent found a real weapon to combo it with
spice veldt
but my relative stamina regens extremely fast with FS out
found a weapon to combo with FS, or do you mean the purg?
restive solar
with purge
dude im new to this whole side of darktide
I dunno whats good with what
shrewd grove
five nights at freddys jumpscare
fierce sinew
I prioritize sprint speed over max stamina when sprinting personally, FS is still faster sprint on a decent mobility roll
spice veldt
if I'm running from a horde, I'd run with my FS out
I'm stacking sprint eff on all my curios, so I do get some decent mileage out of it
fierce sinew
especially since our regen is so fast
I enjoy sprint efficiency too
I like it more than all of the damage reduction perks honestly
spice veldt
it's certainly something that you're going to be using a lot rather than against the occasional snipers/gunners and whatnot
i like the comfy-ness of not being at 0 stamina when I run somewhere
cyan notch
what do u guys mean when saying relative regen
fierce sinew
I was just referring to the delay before regen being very short for our class
spice veldt
stamina regens per bars
so if you have your staff out, the % of your stamina regens slowly
but if you swap to a weapon with less stamina bars, your % remains the same, and your stamina% will regen faster since there are less bars
fierce sinew
we're punished less for just dumping the whole stamina bar over and over, whether that's on sprinting or push attacks
spice veldt
makes me really comfortable as the heavy-object carrier
spam push for days
esp with the guardbreak change on Kinetic Deflection
fierce sinew
that was the one occasional drawback and it's gone ye
spice veldt
it was really annoying when I was pushing a horde and a stray bullet guardbroke me
then again that's specifically a deflector FS problem
fierce sinew
with purge
and to answer this try antax mkv if you haven't
restive solar
and to answer this try antax mkv if you haven't
fs
fierce sinew
I misunderstood, I thought you were looking for a melee weapon to use with purge
spice veldt
either that or he meant 'fs' in terms of 'for sure'
funny ambiguity because of the force sword's acronym
cyan notch
he means fatshark
spice veldt
damn forgot about that one
bold abyss
O
regal musk
Wiling to bet they dont because they know it annoys you 😛
bold abyss
I'm fixing to jump on and do some electric wizard if a new update has been released, I'm piliph
near wyvern
I usually just run combat blade or duelling mk V
I have 1 stamina curio and then stamina regen on a couple of my curios
fresh reef
fierce sinew
it just does everything
fierce sinew
yeah it's a good thing it feels so nice to use
I'd want to use it anyway
always a treat when the fun thing and the effective thing are the same thing
forest coral
combat axe not fun for me
That’s heresy
still hearth
Combat Axe is boring.
light quail
duelling sword gang
near wyvern
Too slow IMO
still hearth
Its slow, its mobility requires a good roll to not feel awful too
But you can get around the slow attacks with macros, good luck having those work with the input dropping though
near wyvern
What's up with the macro spam you using 😂 I am clearing Damnation fine with no macros
cyan notch
vanessa a min charge void spam macroer confirmed
still hearth
I do miss like half my staff shots because of it so lol
I only use it to spam the primary, sorry to disappoint
steel egret
I keep getting asked if I use macro by people who cant do it even without macro.
regal musk
Gotta love quickplay.
Load finishes, Spawn into map: a full sqaud of scab shooters at poijnt blank range while standing in overlap[ping bomber fire fields next to a bleeding out teammate while the other 2 are dead further the map lol
gilded cloud
Gotta love quickplay.
Load finishes, Spawn into map: a full sqaud of scab shoot...
I love it when I join as they finish up the last section and get all the rewards for 2 minutes of play
regal musk
Funniest part is that it was only the first section past the start of the map lol
gilded cloud
https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-yoda-how-embarassing-thats-so-embarrassing-embarassing-gif-17362984
round robin
petition to be able to brainburst that one teammate in prison pajamas who keeps killing the goon im trying to maintan stacks on
ornate hamlet
Why macro even? Just to make it easier to left click?
If you press R right after you shoot with the Primary shot it resets the delay and you can shoot faster.
So basically you combo that with a macro which makes it easier to do so.
(R = whatever button you reload/quell on)
gilded cloud
(R = whatever button you reload/quell on)
Gotcha! Didn't know that!
cyan notch
your cheat
near wyvern
Altho primary fire spam is poop except for purge
ornate hamlet
Altho primary fire spam is poop except for purge
The suppression does wonders. It's no gun but its nothing to sneeze at either. You'd probably kill more reliably with BB but for normal scrubs it does save peril to use the primary instead. It also staggers a surprising amount when you're using the quell spam technique.
Also swoosh swoosh
carmine obsidian
petition to be able to brainburst that one teammate in prison pajamas who keeps ...
This
ornate hamlet
petition to be able to brainburst that one teammate in prison pajamas who keeps ...
Git gud
ornate hamlet
Actually I play Psyker the most atm.
But I used to play Zealot the most.
Veteran is too boring.
carmine obsidian
Veteran is too boring.
This I absolutely agree, my friend loves vet, just not my jam overall.
ornate hamlet
I think Vet is absurdly powerful if you do it right but it kind of feels like doing chores.
And their stamina situation makes them feel so awful for anything that requires not clicking heads.
cyan notch
cant u just stack stam regen curios and become godly
ornate hamlet
Idk I don't play Vet
summer prairie
stam regen curio doesn't help with the regen delay
idle bay
Stacking stamina regen and "fixed" (somewhere in few months) +3 Stamina curios - might be the new way for Psykers, i mean with x2 innate Stamina regen.. it should be something
shadow onyx
idle bay
Today i learned of existence of T4 Blessing for Power Sword - Power Cycler. Ultra-rare even in Melk shop.....
grizzled jasper
Today i learned of existence of T4 Blessing for Power Sword - Power Cycler. Ultr...
ive been checking since day 1
havent seen one
idle bay
Probably it's a cash shop blessing by initial design with lowest possible spawn rate outside cash shop. And they simply forgot to change that
idle bay
At this point i believe that they might gone that low - by putting chunks of crafting system in cash shop
I have not seen 360+ Power Hammer for my Shouty even once.
white sky
Its just luck
grizzled jasper
Iirc you need a 360+ rating PS for it to show up to begin with
where did you get this info?
white sky
The weapon system is shit
grizzled jasper
curious
white sky
where did you get this info?
Veteran chat early on, so like take it with a grain of salt
summer prairie
Have you seen the PS blessing that makes it ignore armor on weapon special?
grizzled jasper
oh god lol
white sky
But I don't think anyone's seen it show up on a less then 360 sword
white sky
Have you seen the PS blessing that makes it ignore armor on weapon special?
It's not good
summer prairie
Yes, but is it also T4 only
grizzled jasper
it is but i want one for my collection
summer prairie
For the record I mean weapon_trait_bespoke_powersword_p1_pass_past_armor_on_weapon_special not Supercharge
regal musk
I think it would infuriate vet chat
Seems like a good idea to me then.
summer prairie
Not sure what the name of the blessing is
summer prairie
It's a unique one, I doubt it's rending
white sky
I don't remember ever hearing about or seeing a totally negation
summer prairie
Based on the code it's also T4 only
white sky
Maybe it's just that rare
slow karma
Can't wait for the quell cancel to get patched out.
summer prairie
but maybe you can't actually get it
white sky
Or unimplemented
summer prairie
It's implemented. Looks like it might just let you cleave through armor rather than completely ignoring it
I think it's the same effect as ignore armor on weapon crit that some weapons get
white sky
I'm trying to find it
Listed on a website or something
Cannot but I might be looking at it wrong
summer prairie
It's on a few but they also only have the identifier used in the code
Combine00's perk/blessing guide has it as pass_past_armor_on_weapon_special
round robin
I call this the "id rather be playing zealot" build
-Heal on warp charge
-killing elite with warp charge burns nearby enemies
-chance to gain warp charge whenever you or nearby ally kills enemy
-blocking with melee builds peril instead of stamina
-chance to brain burst on hit
Run a maccabian sword for its impressive damage and cleave,
Run either infantry autogun or accatran lasgun of your choice
Brain burst your stacks then swap to melee to build up and maintain stacks while killing hordes, brain bursting far off enemies when you need to maintain stacks and generally rushing forward whenever possible.
Gun isnt too important, but sometimes you need to pick off stray gunners before they melt your toughness and full auto guns pair well with chance to brain burst on hit.
Dont use a staff because im pretty constantly hovering in the high peril ranges to maintain stacks and so I cant reliably use the staff to pick of gunners.
The constant refreshing of toughness regen on random warp stacks in the middle of horde melee has made me surprisingly durable.
All three of my blessings are +HP%
Would i run on it on T5? Absolutely not
Have I had more fun with this build than any meta psyker build on T3? Hell yea
ornate hamlet
Not ot trash on your build.
But Wreck and Ruin is horrible.
At least I think that's the 10-3 feat.
Not that there's much options for you in that tree with that playsyle I guess.
But yeah
Running meme builds is fun.
I'm going to run this in Damnation tonight for you my sibling.
I did do two runs on Psyker in Damnation without feats
And it was surprisingly basically the same game but slower
I swear the first row of feats is what makes Damnation gameplay the easiest for Psyker, toughness regen issues are hard.
hexed ibex
I don't understand how to play Psyker on Damnation, Purg and Surge both had huge flaws with them that your team has to cover and if they're not you just lose
Its like I got no carry potential
ornate hamlet
Bring a gun.
Unironically.
Use BB, get toughness on Quell.
BB twice, swap to gun
Shoot things.
Purge is great but every time I bring it we have 2 flamers
floral solstice
I don't understand how to play Psyker on Damnation, Purg and Surge both had huge...
what are you struggling with in general
ornate hamlet
The biggest upside of Purge is that your other nerds should be taking the time you delete everything in melee to be useful
But they usually just go in and swing at the horde
I'd rather they sit AFK and look for specialists
hexed ibex
Holes that I can't fill, like if theres no vet on the team and I'm running purg whelp, bout to get shot to pieces all game, or I'm running surg and theres a shield ogryn and its like 2/4 of the team are not killing anything
ornate hamlet
BB everything.
If no one has a gun I'm BBing around corners
Until there's no guns left
summer prairie
Run knife with surge and just melee it down after stunning it once. Or BB
floral solstice
well you can run kinetic barrage even with purgatus, or hit AB 5-6 stacks for shooters
ornate hamlet
Purge suppresses hard as well though.
hexed ibex
Run knife with surge and just melee it down after stunning it once. Or BB
I am running mk 5 C.axe with it with brutal mom so I could just cleave through what was stunned
summer prairie
Going to have to use heavies against a bulwark
the push attack takes forever to kill one
floral solstice
or just slide back and bb bulwarks if you're getting pressured
floral solstice
nice thing about psykers is you have some way of dealing with almost any situation, even rescuing vs shooters before they fucked up deflector
but obviously you do it slower/less dps compared to the dps classes
floral solstice
oh i never liked FS anyway
hexed ibex
I was having fun with duelling sword kinetic deflector but uh, yeah
ornate hamlet
It is good
floral solstice
oh.
rocky cedar
nice thing about psykers is you have some way of dealing with almost any situati...
Yeah this is very much how I view Psyker. Swiss army knife of the party
floral solstice
at least when i run psyker on solo queue i feel like i can deal with most things without relying on teammate
round robin
I'm going to run this in Damnation tonight for you my sibling.
Good luck
Tell me how it goes
hexed ibex
But then a Vet with a mk XII and a Powersword joins the team and you're like "Well I guess I'm gonna be outclassed in every aspect"
floral solstice
sometimes when you solo queue ogryn for instance, and your vet is a dumdum who cant kill shooters? have fun
floral solstice
But then a Vet with a mk XII and a Powersword joins the team and you're like "We...
everytime there's a vet when i random queue i make sure that i always know their positioning at all times
because istg these random vets die to the most random things
hexed ibex
I like when they chew their way into the horde cleaving and then get surrounded
Victims of their own success
rocky cedar
because istg these random vets die to the most random things
Vet with 5 wounds going down to 3 poxwalkers. Name a more iconic duo
floral solstice
when i see vets wasting ammo on poxwalkers instead of looking for shooters/specialists i already know it's gonna be a hard time
hexed ibex
I had someone try and tell me that each wound was 50 effective hp....
rocky cedar
I wasn't trying to start another wounds debate. I've seen enough of those
hexed ibex
and he wouldn't believe that thats not how it works at all lmao
floral solstice
@rocky cedar you mean like this? lol
rocky cedar
Mostly just joking about PUG Vet trends
ornate hamlet
I had someone try and tell me that each wound was 50 effective hp....
Its also 0 effective HP.
floral solstice
i like how other classes shit on vet
but to be fair most of the braindead ones seem to play vet
rocky cedar
We jest
idle bay
Some players play damnation with wound builds just to circle-farm revives 🙂
rocky cedar
It's just funny how bad random Vets are with how much their class holds their hand
Honestly less annoying than a bad shield Ogryn though
floral solstice
that's why, going back to my previous point, i prefer psykers for solo queueing t5
even on high int i feel like im doing a lot of carrying even though i deal the least amount of damage
rocky cedar
Yeah being extremely versatile is nice
hexed ibex
When your vet has the plasma gun and a Tac axe and you think you're gonna see some next level plays and instead he dies during the first horde
floral solstice
imagine if we get scoreboards
then people start roasting psykers for low kills
bitch please we kept the whole team safe with surge/purge
rocky cedar
Just knowing whatever weapons you bring snipers, Bulwarks and Crushers aren't going to be an issue is honestly so underrated
rocky cedar
When your vet has the plasma gun and a Tac axe and you think you're gonna see so...
Last plasma Vet I saw ran to the opposite side of the event arena and almost immediately died to dog + flamer
It was honestly just perplexing
hexed ibex
I've played with one that actually used it to wall elites
rocky cedar
I've played with one that actually used it to wall elites
That's hype
hexed ibex
And it was eye opening at how good it could be and how its not used properly lmao
rocky cedar
Yet to see one like that
If I ever bother finishing levelling my Vet I'm probably gonna give Hellbore and Plasma a very solid go
ornate hamlet
rocky cedar
Vet has some cool stuff
ornate hamlet
Idk if not channeling Surge works on Crushers
But you can very easily handle Bulwarks if there's nothing else in the way
rocky cedar
Purgatus Psyker + Surge Psyker = GG to every melee encounter
ornate hamlet
I actually prefer Trauma over Surge but other than that
hexed ibex
If I ever bother finishing levelling my Vet I'm probably gonna give Hellbore and...
Hellbore is pretty fun, you get a good roll and not awful blessings and its an elite menace
ornate hamlet
While I think both Trauma and Surge have issues.
floral solstice
motherfu- game still not closing properly on steam
ornate hamlet
Trauma allowing me to actually hit what I want to hit
Instead of being blocked by 6 unarmored goons
Makes it more useful to me
vestal fulcrum
Question: Health v Toughness as curios main attribute?
I’m leaning towards health personally, as toughness generally scales poorly with Psyker’s base toughness
rocky cedar
I'm a big toughness stan
But it seems fairly debated here in Psyker land
One HP Two Toughness feels good to me if you want some Grim insurance
floral solstice
3x wound curios, you can roleplay as poxburster
cyan notch
max haich pee for me
floral solstice
in all seriousness, both works fine, i prefer hp
bold flint
do you not like toughness
cyan notch
i like it as secondary perk on curio yea
rocky cedar
I find +toughness has a point around +50 where it starts to feel really really good
But I do be running grims weeklies and I can't be assed changing curios a bunch
So have just stuck with 1 HP 2 toughness
rocky cedar
Yes I'm aware
golden tartan
Question: Health v Toughness as curios main attribute?
Toughness is better for normal operations.
Health is better for saving ur ass during oh shit oh fuck moments
Namely getting bad touched by fire.
hexed ibex
HP with Toughness regen the current king?
floral solstice
toughness regen feels busted even at base toughness
golden tartan
If ur running perils -> toughness there is a solid argument for toughness + tou regen
floral solstice
i dont even feel my quietitude anymore
hexed ibex
Yeah don't need a huge bar when its filling so fast
vestal fulcrum
Toughness is better for normal operations.
Health is better for saving ur ass d...
I probably wouldn’t be asking this question had it been easier to have a +grim corruption set of curios, and a regular Damnation set of curios
Thanks for the input though. I don’t have nearly enough materials on my Psyker to tinker with the curios heavily, although it’s good to know there are the good and the bad outcomes to each approach
hexed ibex
One day we'll get shared curios... maybe
idle bay
One day we'll get shared curios... maybe
We need a new plaque for /r/Karktide wih Karktide written in same font as Darktide
It's instant 3.5k upvotes post
coarse oyster
One day we'll get shared curios... maybe
You mean 🇳 🇪 🇽 🇹 🇼 🇪 🇪 🇰™️
idle bay
I love how they back under the rock with no communication save the patch notes for fixes
coarse oyster
I played VT2 long enough to be not suprised by this LUL
hexed ibex
VT2 we hit the summer break shortly after launch and it was pretty much the same situation
idle bay
Breaks are sacred
summer prairie
1.0.24 just now: Fixed an issue where the Toughness Regeneration Speed from Curio bonuses incorrectly gave an extremely high regen speed. Buffed the Toughness Regeneration Speed Curio values for all tiers.
Toughness regen goes up to +30% on curio now
crude talon
It’s over boys.
summer prairie
Unless they tweaked the formula, it's probably still best in slot
crude talon
floral solstice
yeah it's up
summer prairie
On the forums
floral solstice
is it 25 for tier 3 regen speed now?
cyan notch
damn thats the only patch note
cyan notch
Probably 25% for t3
weird
crude talon
While I do think this is a change that was needed, I’m a little annoyed all these fixes are coming out but we are still getting shot through the floor on that one map lol.
floral solstice
nerftide
summer prairie
this one took like 30 seconds to fix
uneven drift
And few days to deliver
summer prairie
Granted there are a lot of similarly easy fixes they don't bother doing
crude talon
Anyone else skip that part of the desert map entirely? The tower part? Haha
cyan notch
how do u skip it
uneven drift
Alt+F4
crude talon
I always hop down onto a railing at the beginning and down to the ground.
And fight everything down there
shrewd grove
You can skip 20 minutes of hab dreyko too
cyan notch
sure if your team is on the same page
else theyre gonna die up there and everything will aggro on you below and youll probably die down there
crude talon
If they aren’t on the same page, they all die and I’ll just res them later 🙂
floral solstice
ok 90% regen speed + lynchpin on ogryn feels way slower now compared to before
though tbf it was crazy fast before
at least now you have to take cover way more but the regen bonus still feels good imo
crude talon
Also for going UP that tower you can run up into a building and hold 2 choke points and there’s no floor to get shot through
old oyster
is there any good builds for Brain burst ? just want to do some penance but dont have enough dmg lol
crude talon
The elite one (5 elites in 12 seconds) you can do with the last feat. The one for killing a boss you’re gonna need a team to help you do it no matter what
More BB damage isn’t gonna make or break that one
manic needle
So they finally unborked toughness regen, eh? Nice.
old oyster
The elite one (5 elites in 12 seconds) you can do with the last feat. The one fo...
i did boss , left elites
and its not 5 elites , you need to kill random elites who have lvl 5
manic needle
Talking about Pick 'n' Mix? Use KB + Inner Tranquility and it shouldnt be too hard
old oyster
manic needle
I imagine Comms Plex is the optimal place for that one now, during the elevator event
rocky cedar
So they finally unborked toughness regen, eh? Nice.
But also buffed it. It's still pretty crazy good just not super broken levels
manic needle
Yeah still confused as to why they did that when even at 60% it would probably beat out just about anything else you could get
I guess they were afraid of just straight up nerfing something that benefitted players besides Psyker mains
old oyster
wut
yes its says : you need to kill Random elites in 12sec who have rank 5 ( AI lvl 5 )
manic needle
Sounds like a translation error
old oyster
Sounds like a translation error
idk for me says that lol
uneven drift
idk which language you play, but it's pretty poor wording.
old oyster
manic needle
You can kill any elites on Heresy or Damnation for it, unless they changed something since 1.0.21
old oyster
You need just kill 5 elites at heresy+
7*
manic needle
Gunners and shotgunners are your best friend for it, its especially easy to get on Damnation
old oyster
left 3 of them to kill , but my brain burst have low dmg ( im 22lvl)
manic needle
7*
I havent played in a little while but Ill log in to confirm that it's still 5 elites that you have to kill
uneven drift
left 3 of them to kill , but my brain burst have low dmg ( im 22lvl)
Brain burst have fixd dmg, it won't rise with lvl.
crude talon
its 5, dont let them gaslight you @manic needle
manic needle
Unless you're talking about a Penance that isn't Pick 'n' Mix?
uneven drift
It's affected by various buffs and armor type tho
crude talon
clear heath
you're probably gonna want to reach level 30 for kinetic barrage if you want the penance
uneven drift
left 3 of them to kill , but my brain burst have low dmg ( im 22lvl)
Mb you confused penances, but you just need to kill 5 elites in 12 seconds. best way to do it, take kinetic barrage at lvl 30 and look for gunners and shotgunners stacked.
wet jacinth
you're probably gonna want to reach level 30 for kinetic barrage if you want the...
Lol imagine needing that.
pliant junco
left 3 of them to kill , but my brain burst have low dmg ( im 22lvl)
better to wait level 30 to do this, this way you can take level 30 perk with enhanced brain burst
and 6 warp charges level 25
far more easier
uneven drift
is this the only update we're getting this week lol
Most likely. You are need to wait next months for another open letter about how they fall short on expectations and now need to close servers.
manic needle
Pretty sure I did it without Warp Battery, there shouldnt be much of a difference between 4 charges and 6 charges as long as you remember to do one BB, pop your special and then do the other 4 buffed by KB
pliant junco
Pretty sure I did it without Warp Battery, there shouldnt be much of a differenc...
6 warp charges because its chad, and level 30 feat for faster bb
manic needle
You dont even have to be that efficient, I got mine basically by accident
floral solstice
they could at least tell us about their progress with their "promises"
cyan notch
next week
manic needle
-Reduced Psyker Base Toughness from 100 to 50
That's it, that's the patch
floral solstice
update: developer Greg finally learned how to open the company pc
pliant junco
You dont even have to be that efficient, I got mine basically by accident
thats the problem, its pure luck, better to reduce the randomness
you can have 5 gunners for you in the right room, right map and with baby sitted mates
or you can have only ogryns mixed with ragers instant delete by boltgun vet
manic needle
Best to do it with friends on discord so if you realize youre about to get it you can call them off
Or just use in game voice comms and see if you can get everyone on the same page
pliant junco
all my friends dropped the game, cant solo private, still random with discord
i had pure luck to do this penance in a random public game
manic needle
With discord everyone should be on the same page before you even queue up though, so not exactly random
pliant junco
its not hard just random
manic needle
Gotta take the time to send out squad invites etc
whereas quickplay solo youre dropped right into the lobby
pliant junco
honestly the only penance i asked help is malleus monstrum
manic needle
I queued up with an ogryn player who saw me in the lobby and insta-switched to Slab Shield
It was a fantastic change from the toxic ogryns I would usually be paired with at the time. I still love that guy
floral solstice
I queued up with an ogryn player who saw me in the lobby and insta-switched to S...
are you sure he didn't switch because he thought, "ugh, puny psyker"
crude talon
there are toxic ogryn?!
manic needle
Either way I asked 'em and he said hell yeah lets do it, so still based as fuck
The ONLY ogryn I would be paired with for a long time were toxic
thankfully that trend ended
rocky cedar
there are toxic ogryn?!
Would you call shield sandbagging toxic? Genuine question
floral solstice
there are ogryns who brace shield vs pox hordes
manic needle
They'd "roleplay" by doing things like yelling at someone else for splitting to help a teammate and getting downed, before running off and getting downed, or shit talking me after pulling off a carry because I wasnt using surge staff on poxwalkers
floral solstice
idk why but okay i guess you're helping
rocky cedar
idk why but okay i guess you're helping
Are they? I'm not so sure
manic needle
All of the vets I meet are blessedly silent, think Ive had maybe one toxic one
floral solstice
one vet straight up told me that psyker is useless after a horde
floral solstice
he was struggling to kill shooters with boltgun, he doesnt even realize im keeping ogryns off his ass with surge
"why play psyker, brain burst useless"
floral solstice
I don't think I've run into anyone genuinely toxic
hello would you like to play with me
floral solstice
unless alsozora is a common name then i think i met one earlier
oh based on the steam name shown below the character names after the match
rocky cedar
TBH I've mostly just been grinding Malice to level my Ogryn this last week
floral solstice
oh then i think it was definitely you
rocky cedar
Oh neat
floral solstice
i played one malice game with Kimo earlier on a sand map, we played a quick game while waiting for someone
should be around 7 hours earlier
or 6
rocky cedar
Game do be spamming me with sand maps when I QP recently
cyan notch
how come recent players in steam doesnt work with dt
floral solstice
complex
rocky cedar
should be around 7 hours earlier
Yeah that lines up
manic needle
Its more surprising when something works in DT to be honest
rocky cedar
how come recent players in steam doesnt work with dt
I'm genuinely very upset by this
idle bay
Hotfix !
rocky cedar
small world
Increasingly small player base sadly
idle bay
Fixed an issue where the Toughness Regeneration Speed from Curio bonuses incorrectly gave an extremely high regen speed.
Buffed the Toughness Regeneration Speed Curio values for all tiers.
floral solstice
well if you want to play sometime alsozara you can add my steam
idle bay
1.0.24.
floral solstice
im from sea but most people ive added are also aus
safe crystal
Emperor giving me decent things, but sadly its not on my zealot :<
Not sure how good this thing is without bromentum
rocky cedar
Sure, the one person I regularly play with is pretty flaky so sounds good
idle bay
So Toughness overload is fixed.. that was fast
manic needle
Decent enough, my Antax was trash and it was still worth
floral solstice
well that will still one shot things and hit others beside it with lower damage
you're pretty much just gonna hit less
safe crystal
The question is, flak or maniacs?
rocky cedar
Yeah Decimator is even more cracked now
idle bay
A real godsend for stamina build 🙂 Just few moths of waiting...
rocky cedar
Yeah just priorities
manic needle
Yeah Decimator is even more cracked now
Why? Did they change block counterattack breaking a combo chain or something?
rocky cedar
Maybe worth seeing if maniac hits a Mutie BP with damage calc
floral solstice
probably because of power fix
rocky cedar
Why? Did they change block counterattack breaking a combo chain or something?
I just meant power changes generally
manic needle
Ahh gotchya
rocky cedar
Yeah still annoying to keep active
manic needle
Kinda got a little excited because Im pretty sure I have an antax in storage with Deci
manic needle
I know, I know, foolish of me
rocky cedar
TBF of all things to buff Caxe ain't it
Rashad hitbox fix would be appreciated though
manic needle
Mk. 2 looks like it has some decent sweeping heavies but Ive literally only even seen 2 in the shops on my Psyker.
Mostly it would have been better for +power stacking and weapon swapping before the big hotfix
floral solstice
https://youtu.be/lBQgzO3M7oA ogryn 90% regen speed with lynchpin, not mine
manic needle
Thats still really good
floral solstice
at least now i'll notice my quietitude again
manic needle
Having lvl 5. feat selection actually matter is a good change, still not looking forward to grinding out new curios though lol
cyan notch
tac axe push attacks are not bad theyre heavy attack profile
mk2 has sweeping heavies while mk4 has sweeping lights
manic needle
The decently statted one I got from an Emperor's Gift when I first hit 30 was a Mk. 7 and I switched off as soon as I got something else
cyan notch
mk7 sucks
manic needle
Shore does
cyan notch
something wrong with its attack pattern i forgot
clear heath
something wrong with its attack pattern i forgot
probably the 2nd light being upwards diagonal and 2nd heavy being straight downwards
still a solid weapon for zealot crit tho
cyan notch
tac axes also have that thing where u cant just combo push attack into itself nonstop you have to push attack -> light/heavy else youll just do nothing
clear heath
It used to desynch when you swung fast enough IIRC
this only happens if i'm lagging
usually when i'm playing with friends across the world and it selects their servers
i just swing 3 times and see if my axe teleports to see who's servers we got
manic needle
Can you consistently land a full light combo if the connection is good?
I seem to recall every other hit not registering
clear heath
I think it's registering? at least, i can see the animation
if it's lagging it straight up skips the swing animation sometimes
cold mesa
Mk7 is good for zealot but not as good for psyker
manic needle
My problem was no hit marker on every other hit + no damage being dealt
clear heath
i actually have no idea if it's hitting or not, or if the teleporting axe is just visual
manic needle
May not have been exactly every other strike but it was frequent
cold mesa
Also mk4 still sucks for psyker
Mk4 tac axe is just kinda bad
Unless you want -maximum- safety with brainless left click spam
manic needle
Antax Mk. 5 is good enough for that, no need to switch to TAxes for me
Meme axe gonna meme
cold mesa
Imo mk2 tac axe is hella good for psyker, pushattack-> fast heavy is really good
manic needle
Im sure the game will give me a third one at the shop someday so I can try it out
cold mesa
Mk7 also does it
Tbh actually i don't see why you'd go mk2 over mk7 on psyker.
Their pushattack -> heavy chain is the same, you have no real reason to go into long heavy chain sequences, and mk7 lights are the best for the class while mk2 are the worst
manic needle
If thats the case then I'll just skip them entirely
The Mk. 7 didnt hold a candle compared to Mk.5 CAxe push counterattack for me
cold mesa
I'm tempted to even go for a headtaker limbsplitter one over brmo just cos of the focus on heavies.
crude talon
I am rethinking my stance on the FS. I like running purge/FS rn
cyan notch
i thought thats always been a good combo
crude talon
I like running surge a lot in t5 for safety. So I take something better for horde clear
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funny, I actually really dig FS for the feel of its attacks. Its damage is just a bit doo doo compared to alternatives.
spice veldt
the attack chains take some getting used to, but I think they patterns feel fine once you get the muscle memory for them
tawny swallow
I swear there’s a different force sword in the psyker trailer that has different heavy chains but I could be wrong
hoary badge
nah, there's definitely a force sword with a heavy thrust in its moveset in that trailer
tawny swallow
need that
cyan notch
nah, there's definitely a force sword with a heavy thrust in its moveset in that...
what trailer
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the psyker class showcase trailer
ornate hamlet
Didn't the Psyker have the Power Sword in promotional stuff
near wyvern
If FS had horizontal lights it would be so strong
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Not that I know of
tawny swallow
Didn't the Psyker have the Power Sword in promotional stuff
they had the heavy sword that the zealot now owns
in the trailer they did anyways
ornate hamlet
Making the Purge look like it explodes enemies when you finish the charge
Sneaky move
clear heath
Making the Purge look like it explodes enemies when you finish the charge
holy shit i just noticed that
that's so cool wtf
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I saw a youtuber that was so excited to have an explodey flamethrower in the pre-release analysis
clear heath
psyker needs more explosions in its kit
hoary badge
little did he know
ornate hamlet
It is actually just an explosive barrel