mechanicus counts as imperium generally
#psyker-class
leaden thunder
hollow portal
My headcanon for Beloved being a Slaanesh daemon is because I love Syll Lewdtongue and love the concept of a Slaaneshi daemon who legit cares about the mortals it corrupts
leaden thunder
I mean your character is your character (IMO) that's why I wish I could disable some line from my character saying
like the line about protecting him for my zealot
sheamus preymore ain't no bitch
west stream
Eh, the Beloved being a fragment of the emperor is really not that out there
leaden thunder
I mean it's very very heavily implied
west stream
for one, authorized psykers bond to the emperor as a general rule
and random fragments of the emperors soul have reincarnated or mixed with a mortal before
hollow portal
Eh, the Beloved being a fragment of the emperor is really not that out there
Deff. My Slaaneshi thing is just personal character headcanon.
west stream
Yeah I mean that saying "ohoh, it´s a daemon pretending to be big E" is just attempting to find an explanation when we have an obvious one
leaden thunder
rather it's very heavily implied that it's emps, whether or not they are actually talking to them is another story
hollow portal
Its says stuff that Big E would say. Like when commenting on Terra. "Beloved" mentions that its a shithole, but it used to be really nice
west stream
But sure, headcanon for one own´s character notwithstanding
leaden thunder
considering that psyker is probably the most insane weirdly since they think it's a dream
the loner is more unhinged though
hollow portal
Also Felinids are sexy.
Only Big E (and Slaanesh, but thats a whole different thing) could be so based
leaden thunder
kroot couldn't tell the difference between a normal human and felind except the felind had big fuck off claws
but this is a kroot
so who know
hollow portal
The Kroot was also admittedly a less than credible source and was prone to saying stuff he didnt actually know
leaden thunder
that kroot is the only thing we have for a description of felinds
hollow portal
Yep
leaden thunder
also there are no wolves on fenris
humanity did some wierd stuff in the dark age of tech
hollow portal
It does lend creedence to "Felinids are catboys / catgirls" idea. Since such in the common IG armor they would be practically identical to a baseline human
leaden thunder
and by big fuck off claws I mean forearm length
apparently
they might just be like wolverine but cats
hollow portal
That more struck as a "tall tale" but hey. maybe they have wolverine claws or something
leaden thunder
I mean increasing natural agility and gaining access to a potent in built weapon is an actually logical reason to make them a thing
cuase dark of of tech humanity did some wierd stuff like I said
hollow portal
However, when Grekh saw me working on my notes, he assured me that felinids not only exist but are the form of humans he most respects. He tells me has has fought agaisnt them and found them to be the most efficient killers he has witnessed in a Militarum regiment. Apparently, they show a lethal cool in the face of even the most brutal opposition. When I asked if they were bestial in appearance, Grekh revealed that he finds it difficult to distinguish one human from another and that felinids, to his eyes, looked no different from me. He also mentioned that they had claws the length of my forearm, though, so I have decided Grekh is not an entirely reliable source.
cloud heron
cuase dark of of tech humanity did some wierd stuff like I said
if anything, not inventing cat girls would be the weird thing
hollow portal
forest coral
least heretical psyker
hollow portal
So far we have:
They are nekos with wolverine claws. Also they are sexy.
gentle siren
Does the purgatus apply soul blaze by default, or just burn?
cloud heron
Does the purgatus apply soul blaze by default, or just burn?
The dot effect is soulblaze, different from the flamer's dot effect
not sure if the direct damage it applies is actually considered soul blaze for the purpose of feats
frozen osprey
nothig wrong with cat girls
Cat girls 🥴
forest coral
maybe Space marines were the true slice of life harem cat girls/ bois all along
hollow portal
No
frozen osprey
Yes
hollow portal
But this does help confirm that, by default, the Felinid's homeworld has catboy cafes
regal musk
not sure if the direct damage it applies is actually considered soul blaze for t...
Pretty sure that was one of things fixed with Purgatus in that bugfix patch.
forest coral
But this does help confirm that, by default, the Felinid's homeworld has catboy ...
you mean human cafes since most of them are y'know, cat people.
cloud heron
I volunteer to go to cat planet and serve them food while dressed in demeaning outfits
frozen osprey
But this does help confirm that, by default, the Felinid's homeworld has catboy ...
I need to get there NOW
frozen osprey
I volunteer to go to cat planet and serve them food while dressed in demeaning o...
Kinda fruity
cloud heron
i do like the idea that cat planet is just full of regular humans that migrated out of sheer horniness, to the poin that it's only like 5% actual cat people
hollow portal
I need to get there NOW
cloud heron
This channel is begging for an exterminatus
It's emporer approved discource, confirmed canon by psyker
frozen osprey
This channel is begging for an exterminatus
They can't kill us all :3
scenic gale
yeah and the Imperium has never exterminated a psyker that claims to hear the voice of the Emperor.
cloud heron
yeah and the Imperium has never exterminated a psyker that claims to hear the vo...
the psyker is inquisition approved. I think you'll find it's all up to regulation.
long wharf
nothig wrong with cat girls
This one right here, Inquisitor
frigid burrow
Ogryns should be able to pick up psykers that are about to pop and toss them like exploding barrels
frozen osprey
Ogryns should be able to pick up psykers that are about to pop and toss them lik...
I approve of this
Same for plasma gun vets
cloud heron
oh baby here i go rolling experience and dockets again
hollow portal
It's emporer approved discource, confirmed canon by psyker
This. The Emperor approves of Felinids. Therefor, the "lol furry bad" meme is heresy
west stream
The emperor approved of most abhumans
leaden thunder
they are useful
west stream
And didn't really have a hate-on for aliens. During the great crusade a number of civilizations were turned into client states
Except whatever the fuck some chapters were doing
cloud heron
The emperor approved of most abhumans
Yes we've already established that the emporer was horny for cat girls
leaden thunder
I mean
that's his whole thing
is being hypocritical
well that and having glorious hair
west stream
Tru
scenic gale
and not communicating well, don't forget that
west stream
He and Malcador had a pretty good idea of a set of possible futures so they just got annoyed people wouldn't just do whatever they told them
valid fern
Worth it? I'm torn because while the damage is awful, it will allow me to be more effective if I'm just a CC bot in higher difficulties
west stream
not very good leaders, either of them
you dont particularly want damage with surge staff do you?
valid fern
I get the feeling shock uptime > damage on damnation/heresy but I do like having damage
I dunno what do you all think? I'm newer to damnation/heresy
tall torrent
@ornate hamlet no run n gun 
scenic gale
Worth it? I'm torn because while the damage is awful, it will allow me to be mor...
I think you want the warp flurry more because that's going to charge faster in chains, which is where you really seem to need the max CC
cloud heron
Worth it? I'm torn because while the damage is awful, it will allow me to be mor...
I would buy the purple staff. Blessings aren't a big deal for it. Reroll infested to flak
I really do hate lights out being in normal rotation now. I can't just hit quick play
frozen osprey
I really do hate lights out being in normal rotation now. I can't just hit quick...
But its fun ):
floral solstice
lights out hurts my eyes even when im playing something with a light source like vet
im prolly one of the few who actually prefers doggo modifier
restive solar
hiya
earnest peak
for surge staff what is a good 2nd perk if you already have +5 to crit chance?
earnest peak
ment to type surge there, not force staff
floral solstice
yeah flak too
cloud heron
has anyone else noticed an increase in dogs trying to 360 noscope?
cloud heron
i wonder if any other specials are trying to make videos for the internet
regal musk
I did notice i was a mutant magnet in a few runs last night
Muties never attacked anyone but me in the entire run lol
lament topaz
restive solar
OH
hoary hearth
Worth buying just for t3 transfer peril? melk coins
scenic gale
base is also decent, but for melk coins idk
only if you're voiding already and this is an up?
warp resist being low kinda hurts
and by kinda i mean a lot
hoary hearth
Not really, my current void is better
scenic gale
i guess it's really "how good of a headclicker am I? average or incredible?"
long wharf
I'm a better head-clicker with the void staff than I am as a Vet with a lasgun
orchid shadow
Is it better to have crit chance perk on staff or pure damage to enemy types?
orchid shadow
depends on the staff
I mainly run Surge, but I've been messing around with this Trauma staff to see if I like it
long wharf
trauma is dead to me until they fix it
orchid shadow
Really? The change to Peril makes it a bit more usable to me, but the target still feels wonky. What would you fix?
long wharf
the targeting is issue #1
base area radius needs to be slightly larger, and max radius needs to be noticeably larger
the crit damage multiplier on it is absolutely atrocious
and I'd change it to leave a patch of soulblaze / warpfire
orchid shadow
The soulblaze would be nice. So would a bit more damage. On Malice testing, it still takes 3 full charges to kill a hound.
long wharf
trying to target anything with trauma is very painful right now
the blast area should be where the player is looking, not placing a body-sized area where the player is looking and base the blast underneath it
it's unintuitive and hinders gameplay
orchid shadow
Ah, I see what you mean. Now that I'm looking for that, it seems weird that it's taking where I'm looking and then dropping the target to the ground.. I wonder how that would work with high ledges
naive dawn
I'm not sure based on its targeting you can RMB onto ledges.
That was a huge issue I had with it.
orchid shadow
Doing some quick testing in the gym, it looks like it currently snaps to ledges if you start raising your sight high enough. Where the actual ground marker goes after that is anybody's guess. It's super hard to see after that.
naive dawn
exactly
high agate
purg is overrated
zap staff is goated
praise emprah
lethal folio
I've been asking for direct aim targeting since vt1.
long wharf
that's a big oof
regal musk
Lol. Decided to see what i got for a single roll of the lootbox dice from Melk.
Gave me this. Not Sure how i feel about it tbh
forest coral
traumatized
regal musk
modifiers could be better
True of literally everything i have acquired so far tbh XD
long wharf
Sour Milk is a font of disappointment
gentle siren
Does Kinetic Flayer grant warp charges when it triggers like a regular BB?
whole oxide
does Rending Shockwave actually do anything on Trauma? it already does same damage to all armour-types, except Infested
long wharf
it applies brittleness
which is an armor debuff of the enemy, so all teammates can take advantage of it
whole oxide
what I've read is that brittleness and rending are different
long wharf
I thought the last patch notes said that trauma applied brittleness
looks like I'm mistaken
so it increases the armor penetration of trauma's attacks
spice veldt
somebody made a reddit post about it, though I haven't personally tested it to see if it's true. They do seem to have looked at the code itself.
In this comment, they say that +Rending and Brittleness% both provide a team buff, but Rending% is a personal buff
https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/107olbz/wtf_is_rending_brittleness_explanation/j3nxpcf/
whole oxide
interesting
rocky cedar
I've also tried in meat grinder and it works on my melee hits after trauma cast but not on the initial trauma cast itself
As expected from brittleness
regal musk
Basically one is a personal penetration buff, the other is a team penetration buff, if i read that right.
rocky cedar
One is a personal buff
whole oxide
yeah, but there's nothing to indicate that Rending Shockwave would apply brittleness
rocky cedar
The other is an enemy debuff
spice veldt
skill issue
whole oxide
not in the ingame description
rocky cedar
Not quite the same distinction as what you just said
long wharf
that's what I was remembering
cloud heron
fucking pox hounds
rocky cedar
Lol. Decided to see what i got for a single roll of the lootbox dice from Melk. ...
That's genuinely a really good Trauma
cloud heron
barely better than +experience
rocky cedar
That's genuinely a really good Trauma
Quell speed only thing that holds it back
Now roll groaners/poxwalkers to infested for easier Damn one shotting and it's golden
idle bay
Good News evryone! Another annoying acknowledged bug with a class 🙂
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/psykinetic-wrath-not-registering-hits/74373
Probably will be changed to "not-a-bug" be karked no more knockdown for you 🙂
long wharf
I mean, how could you blame them when you provide such detailed reproduction steps, such as "use your ult a bunch"
you did zero methodical testing
does it happen when standing still? does it happen on enemies you've already hit? does it happen while sliding? does it happen when you're at max peril?
"use your ult a bunch"
you might as well have said "the game doesn't work when my computer is off"
idle bay
That fella only came up with Reproduction rate <10%
It's a rookie number he should pupm-up that number with more intense testing!
Bugs with such low reproduction rate are not worth fixing 🙂
So far it maybe just a bad fix of "ability double use" when you throw a lot of inputs into the tangle of netcode at once, along with class ult. Animation happens (nothing else does) and you still have that ult charged. But now it does nothing + consumes the charge 🙂
Never noticed it happening to me though since last patches though
cyan notch
i mean the player doesnt know why it happens and they even provided footage i think thats pretty good already
you cant expect the player to go sit there and test random variables when they dont know what causes it
slow karma
This is what happens when people think they know how to develop games and really fucking dont but deride peoples efforts from the outside anyway.
idle bay
i mean the player doesnt know why it happens and they even provided footage i th...
It's good enough that he took time and effort to report that thing/
cyan notch
It's good enough that he took time and effort to report that thing/
i agree
slow karma
Reporting it is about all they can expect from us. We're not their QA team
idle bay
Not all gamers aver thorough pain-in-ass-for-devs
slow karma
Sure we can do testing but doing hella rigorous testing isn't what we're here for.
idle bay
It's not like this game is an... early access
slow karma
I wish it were
idle bay
Back in old days when i played Skyforge - my bug report caused a nerf to a new Raid-boss (one of his abilities was disabled as result) that helped with it's WFK....
idle bay
I was playing it quite a while since it's early stages. And left after massive rework that came after first war of pantheons and gunslinger class. I was real-pain-in-the-ass-for-devs provideing detailed information and guids to eu/us players from ru server (that was one month ahead in updates).
The game was run by russian-evil-twin of EA - Mail.ru
They even joked "Welcome to evil corporation" when i visited their office for a prize-check for first pantheon war (our Pantheon won it... really close).
Oh! Shiny! A Stamina Curion with +12 stamina regen.... come here little thing 🙂
cloud heron
Oh! Shiny! A Stamina Curion with +12 stamina regen.... come here little thing 🙂
if you give me 400 plasteel i'll throw a +curio chance on top of that
maybe a +dockets if you're lucky
idle bay
Or + 15% Weapon chance as mission reward
Currently working on Stamina build for Psyker... in case his x2 stamina rengen stay and not getting nerfed.
light quail
just ran purgatus staff and blazing push (or whatever the 10% warp charge soulblaze thing is)
I see why everyone uses purgatus now
cloud heron
blazing push? are you translating that from another language?
light quail
blazing push? are you translating that from another language?
can't remember the talent name off my head
went for that
cloud heron
ascendant blaze, lol
light quail
ah right
still though, AB and purgatus is stupid good paired with a duelling sword
cloud heron
it's probably the strongest psyker build right now
scenic gale
yeah it only lacks a feeling of range control, so you just have to make sure you're not in an all-in-melee group.
light quail
yeah it only lacks a feeling of range control, so you just have to make sure you...
given the amount of veterans, that's never going to happen
scenic gale
but also the difference between the spreading fire at 4 stacks and the battery of 6, i'd bet a lot of people are missing the true power
6 stacks instantly at massive range
is so much
scenic gale
it makes the random spreader feel like such a trap
light quail
and that's ALL damage
the heavy attack duelling sword with those can onetap most stuff on heresy
obviously not your heaviest enemies but most things get absolutely folded by it
scenic gale
yeah. Also it's weird because it feels better the higher difficulty you go
because there's just plain more stuff
cloud heron
it makes the random spreader feel like such a trap
I like overload too but currently use battery
scenic gale
so you end up with wayyyyy more consistent charges even from malice to heresy
light quail
would be nice synergy if lasguns (lasgun, laspistols, recon las) could all roll with a soulblaze version of blaze
gunpsyker would be a lot more fun
scenic gale
or even if just non force sword melees could roll the melee soulblazer
light quail
I feel they made a bit of an oopsie throwing soulblaze into psykinetic
could have done a pyromancer class
scenic gale
no problem spinning it into a subclass later
north cradle
Does Duck and Dive only work when actively dodging bullets?
Not asking Veteran chat for obvious reasons
light quail
I think so
north cradle
I distinctly remember a video where someone was using Duck and Dive and Deadshot for maximum damage output
light quail
no problem spinning it into a subclass later
I believe the psyker classes
we had leaked were Biomancer and Telekinetic
Pyromancer DLC is still a possibility though
cloud heron
Does anyone know for sure what purgatus's "burn intensity" from the damage stat does?
light quail
Does anyone know for sure what purgatus's "burn intensity" from the damage stat ...
I believe its DoT damage?
lethal folio
Duck and dive triggers on any dodge for rangedcattacks
restive solar
I just love getting steamed on by like an infinite amount of mutants
always targeting my dumb ass for being alive
Cause fuck me
whole oxide
has anyone looked at the maths for the "quell speed" stat? Because it can't be the range of 0-100 that it says in-game
ornate hamlet
<@456226577798135808> no run n gun <:pogryn:961977701533614130>
better than run n gun, not the best blessing tho
whole oxide
its something really strange like -17.5 to 85
manic needle
All weapon stats have a cap of 80%
whole oxide
no, I'm talking about the upper/lower boundaries of the stat to which the displayed stat is applied
like, primary action damage is 90 - 150
if you had 100% damage somehow, then you would do 150 damage with primary action
50% damage will do 120 primary action damage
ingame tooltip says the upper/lower boundaries for quell speed are 0 - 100
so you would expect a staff with 50% quell speed to gain a +50% to quell speed
but it doesn't
it actually gains +33% quell speed
cyan notch
yes its not linear
brittle crest
ah right
still though, AB and purgatus is stupid good paired with a duelling swo...
why duelling sword over a mk5 caxe?
i picked up a duelling sword and it's fun to zip around but it doesn't feel like it kills veyr fast
light quail
Swag
near wyvern
has anyone looked at the maths for the "quell speed" stat? Because it can't be t...
Yes I have, It's in the Psyker Atheneum
Basically with a zero roll (BB hands, FS) it takes 4 seconds to go from 100 to 0 and using a staff with 80% roll the same takes 3 seconds.
I have not tested if it is linear in time tho but that should be rather easy to test.
Just find something with a quelling percentage between 0 and 80 and if the quelling time in seconds matches (quelling_speed% * 3 + (80-quelling_speed%) * 4) / 80 then it is simply linear in time
If it is linear in time, then with a 100% roll the best manual quelling time is 2.75s
idle shuttle
is rebless next week
fierce sinew
safe pendant
Finally a decent FS. The other perk was Stamina +1
near wyvern
is rebless next week
It's soon™️
idle shuttle
Finally a decent FS. The other perk was Stamina +1
no deflector = booboo
near wyvern
Don't get too attached to deflector
Infinite dodges are really good
But that being said precognition is absolutely garbage
idle shuttle
just rebless it
idle shuttle
too bad about the 334
slow karma
I don't give a shit, I'll never get this shit again
idle shuttle
however youre just using it to block
idle shuttle
this is true
forest coral
safe pendant
But that being said precognition is absolutely garbage
Yeah it was on it to begin with. It helped save a run just now though after another pskyer triggered a daemonhost and got two killed
latent pendant
slow karma
As generally weak as it is, I still like that gun
I just wouldn't wanna use it on a psyker
round robin
hey uh, why does the one with the lower damage stat have a higher damage number
ornate hamlet
hey uh, why does the one with the lower damage stat have a higher damage number
first target
ornate hamlet
hey uh, why does the one with the lower damage stat have a higher damage number
hit inspect, and look at the modifiers for each attribute homie
round robin
first target
that effects the up top numbers?? I thought that didnt apply till after
ornate hamlet
that effects every thing you hit other than something you cleaved
round robin
huh, neat
ornate hamlet
i don't use force sword personally, but
damage, first target, finesse, and warp resist are all important, mobility is the least important (but inspect it and you will see how many times you can dodge before your dodge will be on a cooldown and cause you to jump instead)
cyan notch
fs has unlimited dodge
ornate hamlet
lol, oh, mobility is a dump stat then for sure
round robin
thats, also useful to know
Ive mostly been using maccabian swords, but im trying to roll a FS with the perk that deflects bullets
shrewd grove
you know what fuck you
yeets you straight to the warp
crude talon
i don't use force sword personally, but
damage, first target, finesse, and warp...
Honestly, fuck warp resistance too. The animation for a heavy charge attack is so long you can stay at 99-100% forever lol
But I guess for deflection it prolly matters
olive ember
is crafting finished yet
just wait a few months man
scarlet lily
been doing that
scarlet lily
sure see you guys in a year 
olive ember
a year is generous
at the rate this is going I'm going to be married and have kids by the time the game is finished
scarlet lily
if you add up every holiday possible, there's a good week or two of development time
anyways heretics..
olive ember
devout halo
Advice on how to do this Penance?
crude creek
Advice on how to do this Penance?
Take 1 helper. Start closed mission. Get rid of the bots. Find 3 or more specialist and let teammate tank. You go boom. Maybe you will need to go boom twice.
That's what I did.
devout halo
How do you get rid of bots?
wet belfry
Let them die
unique burrow
I just took the Surge staff and kept spamming it at elites to stun them and lower their hp a bit before blowing up in a regular malice run
wet belfry
They die to most things in the game
devout halo
Thanks
near wyvern
that effects the up top numbers?? I thought that didnt apply till after
The top two values are unarmoured damage values from the table if I recall.
tall torrent
better than run n gun, not the best blessing tho
Yeah, ngl I'm kinda conflicted about it but it's not a total brick at least...maybe half a brick 
I'll try it out on damnation
ornate hamlet
I unironically like Run 'n' Gun now
Now they just need to let me sprint while I'm swapping weapons
So I don't lose my macro spam power.
dire coral
Ya'll think that blazing spirit on voidstrike is worth anything?? Just one stack of SB on crit even with AB, doesn't seem to put stacks on and keep em on or on a sword for that matter.
uneven drift
Well, afaik not only hit, but explosion too apply SB DoT. But anyway i don't see much use of it. May be it's actually decent but who knows, need to craft proper staff...oh wait.
whole oxide
blazing spirit entirely pointless, might as well have a blessing called "lul no blessing for you"
dire coral
Yh that's what i'm feeling, i've had it in my inven for such a long time, only tested it today, tried to make something work with it because it had "decent" modifiers
It boggles the mind that it's ranked as a T3 blessing
near wyvern
Ya'll think that blazing spirit on voidstrike is worth anything?? Just one stack...
I am currently using one with AB and 3% transfer peril. I made a bug report which is now acknowledged. Basically Blazing Spirit does next to nothing at the moment because if you kill a target with the crit, Ascendant Blaze cannot proc from it.
You will get 2 stacks on hitting an elite with a crit (projectile + explosion both apply a stack) but in terms of damage it's negligible
steel egret
I just want surge blessing for void
near wyvern
Surge is good for sure. Never seen it in game tho.
near wyvern
takes months and months
It's immeasurably complex because there is too much spaghetti
cyan notch
it definitely aint taking heads tho
ornate hamlet
it definitely aint taking heads tho
depends on the enemy
heavy zealot
floral solstice
heavy sword first
steel egret
Their forums I guess
cold geode
Heavy sword needs a massive buff before its good for anyone.
dire coral
Pray that they do that and not remove brutal from axes to "even them out"
floral solstice
can't tell if you're memeing about heavy sword but im assuming you are
cold geode
I've used a 380 base stat heavy sword, they are not good save for horde clear and they fail at that when compared to other weapons.
safe crystal
I have this on my zealot, it slaps pretty hard on damnation. Perfect strike was an unfortunate roll, could've been better
floral solstice
but just so we're clear, you're saying that heavy sword sucks even at horde clear compared to other melees?
floral solstice
I have this on my zealot, it slaps pretty hard on damnation. Perfect strike was ...
that's a good one, though im not a fan of the specific mark
dire coral
The IX heavy is good, even great for horde clear, but cannot stand up to the axe rn, but it's not like it's garbo since if ya see a crusher as a psyker yer not gonna go toe to toe in melee with that fucker
So it's not like yer wrong for liking it
safe crystal
that's a good one, though im not a fan of the specific mark
Yah, the mark was also an unfortunate roll, but hey, gotta do with what you get from the slot machines
floral solstice
yeah should be good enough to melt damnation hordes, even headtaker tier 1 is enough
dire coral
Hell i tell ya what, i cleared all of damnation as a psyker and still rn no axe, just a power sword, because the gods hate and don't wanna give me a decent axe that wanna love me for who i am
So as we all know it's just what feels good
floral solstice
wow how strong is your psyker that it can use a power sword /s
jk i know you meant fs
my psyker uses axe but imagine if we do have heavy sword for psyker, you can run it with surge while still having a horde option
dire coral
Yh, didn't mean to come off as that, ofc, damnation is not that big of a deal that ya have to fall into meta slavery is the main point
But min/maxing is a curse
and i love it
floral solstice
considering how psykers get fucked by fatshart, i just like making stupid suggestions that will most likely not happen anyway
dire coral
That is the truest of true
Now lemme just get a stunstick and offer the team support like the good surf i mean psyker that i am
floral solstice
or give a similar effect to the staves' special attack instead of just basic staff melees
it's obvious that they don't play this class so at some point they'll have to listen to some farfetched ideas kek
dire coral
Could ya imagine that, special that is sort of like a blackhole effect, not that strong, just pull enemies together for a sec or sum like that
man, what a wild concept
floral solstice
or tap the staff for a small aoe knockback
like something that is, you know, in a lot of games
dire coral
Now that's asking too much, in a game?? Nonsense silly billy
floral solstice
i'll be honest tho, i wouldn't be surprised if they keep psykers as is, with a bunch of "fixes" here and there
then just make an op subclass and sell it lol
cold mesa
I am currently using one with AB and 3% transfer peril. I made a bug report whic...
that's kinda similar to a bug with zealot's bloodletting feat. dealing the killing blow to a bleeding enemy doesn't give a crit chance stack like it should (works in meat grinder but not in actual missions)
rigid widget
Normal store got me this
floral solstice
looks good
floral solstice
well the blue one already has 20 maniacs so that's already one good perk locked
try comparing breakpoints between those weapons, but if it was me i'd consecrate the blue one to see how it turns out
i suck at saving my plasteel lol i swear
tall torrent
cloud heron
Does anyone know for sure what purgatus's "burn intensity" from the damage stat ...
I did some testing on this and still can't figure out what burn intensity means. It doesn't seem to be either frequency of the dot hitting (unless the difference is incredibly small) and definitely isn't the damage
uneven drift
I did some testing on this and still can't figure out what burn intensity means....
It's indeed should be dmg tick rate. Like if dmg will be applied every 0.3 sec or 0.5 sec. If it work is another question.
upper galleon
Burn increases the rate of applying stacks
And the maximum amount of burn stacks
I'm not sure on the applying rate
But I do know the 0% burn is 8 stacks max and 76% burn is 16 stacks max
And that flames also have a hard cap of 16, but things like infernus las weapons have a cap on how many stacks you can apply from that blessing
rare furnace
Guys I feel like recon lasgun has auto aim assist or just the shots go so fast that hit exactly what I want when I want
Feels satisfying af
cloud heron
Burn increases the rate of applying stacks
Burn intensity being the substat of the damage stat, not the stat named "burn"
cloud heron
It's indeed should be dmg tick rate. Like if dmg will be applied every 0.3 sec o...
As far as I can tell, soulblaze applied while holding a surge staff but applied from wrack and ruin inflicts damage at the same rate as soulblaze applied from a purge staff and applied from soulblaze applied from wrack and ruin while holding a purge staff
upper galleon
Soulblaze functions the same as it as 16 max stacks
But it does have a ramping damage instead of the flat damage increase per stack
I believe it is in darkmass
But soulblaze does less damage at lower stacks than burn, but more at higher stacks
uneven drift
As far as I can tell, soulblaze applied while holding a surge staff but applied ...
Well. Soulblaze has it's own internal timer for ticks afaik which isn't affected by anything, so no matter from which source it was applied.
Burn stat on purgatus affect dmg tick rate, so dmg ticks every 0.3 seconds for example, so you apply soulbalze according to dmg tick rate.
upper galleon
Tick rate is the same no matter what I belive
Yee kurper is right
I don't know if your burn stat affects max possible stacks from your staff, but it should have the same breakpoint of wanting 76%
For fastest applying
uneven drift
Yeah. Basically it's matter of will you apply 2 stacks of soulblaze every 1 second, or 3 stacks(not counting crits which apply 2 stacks).
And after you applied stack of soulblaze it live it's own life.
grizzled jasper
Is it just me or do you male voice psykers have a hidden dialog? I swear I hear you guys scream like a girl at times
Im legit curious
cloud heron
Well. Soulblaze has it's own internal timer for ticks afaik which isn't affected...
The burn stat also has an application rate substat
grizzled jasper
Or am I going crazy
cloud heron
so is it like frequency of hits * percent chance to apply?
for real application rate I mean
grizzled jasper
I want the male voice with hi pitched “AHHH” when im making psyker if it exist
worthy wedge
I'm not super familiar with surge, but this seems good. Am I missing some facts that actually secretly makes it bad?
worthy wedge
oh really? bummer, but re-rollable.
frigid marten
the blessing are the good one so it's fine.
near wyvern
Just a friendly reminder. If you are lurking the shop every hour (or using the browser extension), drink a glass of water every time you do so. Doesn't hurt to learn a good habit while you are suffering from a bad one.
near wyvern
Soulblaze functions the same as it as 16 max stacks
Soulblaze max stacks is 31. The staff just can't apply more than 15 or 16 in case the last application was a crit.
atomic dagger
Soulblaze max stacks is 31. The staff just can't apply more than 15 or 16 in cas...
doesnt soulblaze stacks indefinately?
should i buy the sword for marks just to have the blessing for futureTM crafting update?
supple skiff
managed to luck out on some rolls today and got an upgrade to my FS https://prnt.sc/R2DTsg3vr7_u
light quail
big E pls
im a purgatus boy now
leaden thunder
you will take the gun and like it
atomic dagger
big E pls
im a purgatus boy now
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supple skiff
emperor trying to get psykers to not use their powers checks out I guess
near wyvern
doesnt soulblaze stacks indefinately?
No
spice oar
dense kayak
hello, i'm a bit confused by something :
if i read this right, the minimum quell speed i can get is 0% and the max is 100%, so shouldn't the percentage displayed on the left be identical to the one on the right? since both have a min max of 100%
spice veldt
it seems that quell speed% scales non-linearly with the stat roll.
if you read the values of a bunch of quell speed speed stats and graph them onto something like Desmos, you get a parabola of sorts. I have no idea what the scaling function is though.
whole oxide
you can also approximate it that the actual range is -15 to 85
spice veldt
I think it does scale from 0% to 100%. I graphed about 15 rolls from 19% to 80%, and they seem to scale as so. I closed the browser window and didn't screenshot it though.
ornate hamlet
the blessing are the good one so it's fine.
terrifying barrage is overrated imo
What do you guys think is best difficulty to run with randoms to just grind out
uneven drift
Heresy.
ornate hamlet
are there that many more of them in heresy?
blissful kestrel
I think it is 125 max vs 65 max for Malice.
uneven drift
iirc you can get 125 max from Heresy run.
ornate hamlet
ah ok
uneven drift
But, for sure, you need to search for them in every corner. But on average you get more than on malice.
leaden thunder
any real point in bringing a hoard clear melee on psyker? when your staff is a hoard clear staff?
by hoard clear melee I mean like the devil's claw sword
uneven drift
Depends on team comp. For pugs, try to cover as much as you can i'd say. Like MK5 with Brutal Momentum good at horde clear and in single target too as well having a good defensive option. FS good at single target and defense(especially since you can push even orgyns with it) and so on. Long range already covered with BB.
leaden thunder
i'd put that axes as not specifically for hoard clear, (even though they do it really well)
ornate hamlet
by hoard clear melee I mean like the devil's claw sword
devil's claw is trash
leaden thunder
aight
ornate hamlet
i'd put that axes as not specifically for hoard clear, (even though they do it r...
axe is for single target purg staff is for horde
leaden thunder
yep, that's what I been using
uneven drift
Well, you can go for check list:
- Long range
- Single target
- Melee+defense
- Horde clear
- CC
In general, overlap horde clear and single target on your melee and ranged weapons aren't good idea.
leaden thunder
yep, on my zealot I try to cover bases( though the flamer is so busted it can work with pretty much anything)
frozen osprey
Heresy.
I love heresy but has anyone noticed its got the longest wait tines for lobbies?
ornate hamlet
Well, you can go for check list:
1) Long range
2) Single target
3) Melee+defense...
- BB
- Axe
- Purg staff
- Purg staff
- Purg staff
- Purg staff
uneven drift
I love heresy but has anyone noticed its got the longest wait tines for lobbies?
Well, it's not surprising since player base melting.
frozen osprey
Well, it's not surprising since player base melting.
:c
ornate hamlet
It'll continue to melt we're not getting new content, still don't even have rebless
frozen osprey
1) BB
2) Axe
3) Purg staff
4) Purg staff
5) Purg staff
6) Purg staff
Purg so good it added an extra bullet point
ornate hamlet
Purg so good it added an extra bullet point
- Purg staff
uneven drift
It's settled around 8.5k at peaks, but yeah, one more month in this state and it's unlikely will hold current numbers.
frozen osprey
7) Purg staff
Deserved
ornate hamlet
frozen osprey
It's settled around 8.5k at peaks, but yeah, one more month in this state and it...
That really hammers my war...
frozen osprey
God i really hope this doesnt die. I love this game too much
uneven drift
That really hammers my war...
Blame FatShark for knowingly drop such release. I suspect they wanted to get away like with previous releases, but this time they shitted their pant royally.
Gameplay is great, everyone agrees, but everything around God awful.
long wharf
the number of players to the left in the chat channels tells you everything you need to know
frozen osprey
the number of players to the left in the chat channels tells you everything you ...
Can you spell it out for me anyway
long wharf
Can you spell it out for me anyway
no.
frozen osprey
Oh
normal sequoia
Finally found a Force Sword with Deflector... but at what cost
uneven drift
F.
frozen osprey
Finally found a Force Sword with Deflector... but at what cost <:KEKW_ogryn:1022...
Why do you have so many D:
ornate hamlet
God i really hope this doesnt die. I love this game too much
when you compare it to similar games, the pattern is always the same
Outriders had roughly the same amount of players at launch ~ 45k ish, it dropped to only 9k in 1 month.
Darktide still had 32k after a month, which says a lot about player retention.
Outriders had 1/3rd of it's 2nd month pop into month 3, which is essentially what happened to Darktide too (10k ish was 30k ish)
Outriders practically died by month 4 and 5, down to 1k players.
Darktide will likely drop to around 1k players by month 5 too, and this is pretty much rock bottom (only loyal players left, who don't rely on matchmaker to find people to play with).
My advice is, use this discord to find people to play with, or find other gaming communities that play Darktide regularly that you can hop on board with - you will enjoy the game a lot more.
normal sequoia
Why do you have so many D:
I am collecting all Force Swords with decent stats, beacuse RNG hates me
so that I can slap deflector on it, once crafting is out
frozen osprey
I am collecting all Force Swords with decent stats, beacuse RNG hates me
I schnee
frozen osprey
when you compare it to similar games, the pattern is always the same
Outriders ...
Thats gonna suck man ):
uneven drift
That's why FS need to move their arses in February.
If there are no significant updates, you can just pray they will go with No Man's Sky path and very-very slowly rebuilding player base.
VT2 release wasn't good, but it was a complete game.
frigid marten
well if you compare darktide vs vermintide 2 or 1 numbers... darktide is a big success for FS.
uneven drift
DT isn't complete at all.
They got fast money with DT, but their "live service" part totally fucked up and can't be handled by the studio.
long wharf
FartShart doesn't typically move at any pace other than "very very slow"
uneven drift
Yeah, but you know..."we learned from our experience with VT2" and other bullshit.
long wharf
they deliberately started over from scratch with Darktide
uneven drift
Seems their memory have a timer, so they made core part and forgot about everything else. And their memory were terminated.
Truly a studio of golden fishes.
ornate hamlet
Darktide is a better game than I expected it to be.
They need to update regularly tho.
long wharf
given FartShart's incompetence everywhere else with Darktide, the core gameplay has no business being as good as it is
ornate hamlet
The itemization gear grind at end game is just boring and really could have been designed much better.
leaden thunder
the gameplay, atmosphere and a lot of art and sound stuff are top tier
ornate hamlet
I'm a fuckin psyker, why is the selection available to me to purchase always over 50% firearms?
Like, do fatshark devs play Psyker with firearms?
(for example)
leaden thunder
it's just a lot of other stuff there is massive issues with
ornate hamlet
it's just a lot of other stuff there is massive issues with
yes, like this
consider how virtually impossible it is to actually find a BiS weapon for your class
perk aren't usually 4 diamonds, they're usually 3.
and what are the chances you will find the weapon you want, with at least one 4 diamond perk that you want?
upper galleon
when you compare it to similar games, the pattern is always the same
Outriders ...
nah it will pull a vermintide 2 and restabilize
ornate hamlet
even if you did, you still have to PRAY the blessings will be the right ones too
and that's all AFTER finding the wep with good modifiers you wanted
upper galleon
double so because FS wants to get the 40K bucks for GW/tencent
empty obsidian
Finally found a Force Sword with Deflector... but at what cost <:KEKW_ogryn:1022...
AHHAAHHHA
4%
ornate hamlet
a lot of ppl can't even find the wep they want to use with good base modifiers, they don't even care if it doesn't have a 4 diamond perk they wanted
basically, your chances of finding BiS wep is 0.0000001%
first, it needs to have highest base modifier roll possible, which already pretty much don't exist
and even if it did, it has to have at least one of the 4 diamond perks you wanted on it
and even if that happened, which it NEVER will, it needs to roll the right blessings lol
supple skiff
should be able to pump resources intos a weapon to push stats, perks, and blessings to the next tier
individually anyways
upper galleon
yea I'm 100% sure, whatever crafting they had in mind, wouldn't have helped the current issues, it would just be more grind, rng, and 0 real progression
supple skiff
so you can grind a weapon to max
vestal fulcrum
I can’t for the life of me understand why FS is so against just giving the Athanor from VT2’s deprecated game mode AKA The Weaves to this game
upper galleon
pay 4k melk coins and 4 copies of a t4 blessing to store it into the machine!
vestal fulcrum
It was the ideal system of crafting your best weapon possible
ornate hamlet
should be able to pump resources intos a weapon to push stats, perks, and blessi...
correct, they need to add a way we can grind modifiers up to get them to actual cap, they also need to add a LOCKED perk reroll function that is more costly than the current perk reroll system (like 6x as expensive as rerolling the 1st perk you rerolled)
they ALSO need to add rebless finally, which is what everyone has been waiting for
letting people actually use BiS weapons won't even imbalance the game much either, player skill is still the largest factor by far, even if we could reroll our weapons until they are BiS
Darktide endgame:
endgame gear progression in this game is so trash, people just play different characters instead, and ultimately stop playing all together
ornate hamlet
even the cosmetic minigame, which is also lacking, is more interesting than gear progression
upper galleon
and just wanted to min max the amount of times people pass the cosmetic shop
ornate hamlet
I can appreciate that cosmetics in this game have physics, but why even bother having physics on cosmetics if they're clipping through each other all over the place and look like this?
chrome dune
I can appreciate that cosmetics in this game have physics, but why even bother h...
2 kinds of cosmetics: game cosmetics with clipping, and non-game cosmetics
split oxide
I am switching from Surge to Purg > I suspect my FEATS may have been all wrong.. I want more BB too
I guess I should switch Ascenant Blaze > Kinetic Barrage?
safe crystal
Purg doesnt benefit from the tier 2 more damage talent, cant remember what its called, at all. Might want to swap that out
Iirc it only affects the direct damage dealt by the fire, not the burn damage where most of purgs damage comes from
long wharf
for purge, I go 121112
supple skiff
still blows my mind that we're going into feb and still no additional crafting options
split oxide
still blows my mind that we're going into feb and still no additional crafting o...
They dropped the ball, but at least it's more stable now.
long wharf
they didn't just drop the ball
they threw the ball away months before release and decided nobody would be able to tell the difference
supple skiff
alas, still in the 90th percentile for 40k games
long wharf
it's unfortunate that the bar for measurable success is so low
split oxide
for purge, I go 121112
thanks .. wait .. no shield or deflection ..? you don't use deflector?
ornate hamlet
lore doesn't matter to me
leaden thunder
what do y'all run on the first tier talants
been trying essence harvest but it feels like it doesn't happen when I need it to
long wharf
thanks .. wait .. no shield or deflection ..? you don't use deflector?
feat numbers go top to bottom, left to right in order of reading
so, essence harvest, peril resistance, psychic communion, kinetic deflection, warp battery, ascendant blaze
split oxide
feat numbers go top to bottom, left to right in order of reading
ah ... 6 warp batteries instead of flayer?
long wharf
yes
north cradle
Essence Harvest for Purgatus, Warp Absorption for anything else except Trauma, Quietude for Trauma and gun Psyker. That's just me
long wharf
at 6 warp charges, you're reliably and quickly enough killing mobs (horde and shooters) via Ascendant Blaze powered ult
long wharf
I run quietude for everything but purge
long wharf
especially now that transfer peril blessing has been fixed with quietude for void staff
split oxide
I run quietude for everything but purge
actually .. what about Kinetic Barriage... for the BrianBursts?
long wharf
not for purge
it's all about maximizing use of soulblaze
and having 6 warp charges means more peril resistance
letting you stream purge more
leaden thunder
kentic flayer just seems bad is that just me?
long wharf
I never bother with it
leaden thunder
15 sec cd seems way too long
long wharf
I only use it with surge
leaden thunder
since you know it's gonna proc on random pox walkers
split oxide
letting you stream purge more
And to gain Warpcharges in this build would be to just 'Alt-Fire Purg'?
(nevermind .. forgot WarpSiphon)
long wharf
you apply soulblaze to everything
and as those things die, AB procs giving you 10% chance at warp charge
as long as you light things on warpfire, you'll be swimming in warp charges
at least on heresy+
split oxide
cool . I'm off to toast some marshmallows.
long wharf
purge really shines on heresy+
below that, I don't feel like there's enough enemy density to really justify not having more range
leaden thunder
it's like sienna in vt2 where they get better as the difficulty goes up
leaden thunder
and dots become better due to higher hp
long wharf
well, it's that you have the opportunity to get enough dots on enemies to take advantage of max dot damage
but that's not a general case for dots being better
if anything, static damage dots are worse against higher hp enemies, because you're not keeping up on TTK (time to kill)
which is why damage breakpoints for weapons is important
leaden thunder
iirc in vt 2 sienna was considered pretty meh at low difficulties becuase her dots didn't get to work but at higher they where able to actually stack up and deal loads of damage
I assume thats more or less the same case
long wharf
haven't played VT/VT2
leaden thunder
she's the fire mage
safe crystal
I was honestly sad the flamethrowers in VT were awful at dealing with anything armoured, so i ended up dropping Sienna and Bardin and mained WHC instead :>
I like the yelling
north cradle
I think Psyker has the opposite problem as Sienna, but at least Psyker doesn't have diminishing quell speed
upper galleon
Purge staff can get rending perks
and zealots can F with flamer for 100% armor pen (it isn't consumed unless you melee/expires)
i'm so glad
fire is more viable
compared to vt2
safe crystal
Speaking of VT2, cant wait for them to make quelling cause damage to you
Because reasons
vestal fulcrum
Question. Is Warp Battery with no Psychic Communion or Ascendant Blaze a good idea?
north cradle
Veterans with Plasma Rifles already have this problem
vestal fulcrum
Or is sticking to Kinetic Flayer a better idea?
north cradle
Question. Is Warp Battery with no Psychic Communion or Ascendant Blaze a good id...
On Malice and Heresy, maybe. Damnation, I doubt it
long wharf
darkmass.gg says purge staff can roll rending shockwave, but I've never seen a purge staff with that
north cradle
I use Psykinetic's Aura instead of Psychic Communion myself
long wharf
Question. Is Warp Battery with no Psychic Communion or Ascendant Blaze a good id...
how are you building up your warp charges without communion and AB?
vestal fulcrum
how are you building up your warp charges without communion and AB?
Well, Brainburst is the only option if that's the case
long wharf
I wouldn't bother with warp battery if you aren't passively generating warp charges
north cradle
He bursting brains. A lot.
long wharf
right, which tells me you're wasting time BBing a lot
vestal fulcrum
I'm only ever brainbursting when there's a target I can take out within a reasonable amount of time, or can spare a Kinetic Barrage to target a couple of things within the timeframe, if that helps
long wharf
I still wouldn't bother with warp battery
upper galleon
darkmass.gg says purge staff can roll rending shockwave, but I've never seen a p...
As a zealot, I still haven't seen an uncanny knife
long wharf
which blessing is uncanny?
north cradle
You typically want Warp Charges for Peril Resistance anyway, so running Kinetic Barrage BEFORE having all those charges is diminished returns
upper galleon
armor pen if you hit bleeding enemies in the head
the applied pen now applies to your bleed, letting you bleed out crushers
long wharf
my zealot has a laceration knife, but not with the additional weak spot damage on bleeding targets
that's interesting
vestal fulcrum
You typically want Warp Charges for Peril Resistance anyway, so running Kinetic ...
I don't really care all that much about Peril Resistance, as I'm not running Inner Tranq.
This is what I'm using with Trauma right now
north cradle
Ah okay
upper galleon
yee both the damage and rending ones are great, but like all blessings "LOL rng
vestal fulcrum
(Heresy/Damnation)
summer prairie
the knife can get uncanny strike but purg can't get rending
long wharf
I can't take that feat setup seriously, especially knowing you regularly use trauma
whole oxide
that's exactly the feat setup i use for Trauma
summer prairie
So?
long wharf
darkmass.gg says the purge staff can roll rending shockwave
summer prairie
the code says it can't
upper galleon
the knife can get uncanny strike but purg can't get rending
Darkmass says it can roll,
summer prairie
plus we would have seen it anyway
long wharf
I'll check the code when I get home later
west galleon
The code lies?!
upper galleon
if the code says it can't wouldn't it be like Toughness DR curios?
long wharf
if the code doesn't say it can, then the darkmass guys need to be told they've messed something up
upper galleon
^
long wharf
you're probably thinking of gameslantern
summer prairie
Nope
long wharf
darkmass.gg is datamined, not hand created
summer prairie
Yes, but they datamined like beta stuff
vestal fulcrum
I can't take that feat setup seriously, especially knowing you regularly use tra...
Would this be working more efficiently, then?
whole oxide
the first one you posted was fine
summer prairie
peril resistance isn't that great on trauma, you are probably going to be at high peril by the time you get charges
and then you are just doing the quell loop
whole oxide
no need for warp battery if you're not running 1 or 2 for the final feats
north cradle
Maybe Kinetic Shield would be a better pick for you than Kinetic Deflection, if you want to run Psykinetic's Wrath on a Trauma Staff
summer prairie
but the damage doesn't matter much either if you hit the poxwalker breakpoint so might as well
vestal fulcrum
Hmph. I'll think of something. Cheers for the input, though!
whole oxide
honestly the first setup you posted was ideal, don't let them troll you
summer prairie
The first is perfectly fine yes
vestal fulcrum
I'll give it a spin
olive ember
What staff is he running
Also force weapon is troll
Actually idk how good it is for trauma but for every other staff it is hard troll
summer prairie
it's fine, free 5-15% damage if you don't want to bother with warp charges
north cradle
I was looking up that guide for calculations and came across this gem
olive ember
Free 5-15% damage is worthless if it doesn’t hit breakpoints
Would be better off going for warp resistance
summer prairie
surge and purg don't really even have breakpoints
olive ember
Yeah you don’t use force weapon with them
north cradle
You can do 15% bonus damage, but only once lol
summer prairie
but they are force weapons with fluid breakpoints you aren't going to be intentionally hitting
olive ember
The only staff that might remotely benefit from force weapon is trauma and it probably isn’t worth even then
brazen temple
according to my tests, any non-horde enemy is considered an elite.
so basically any enemy you can tag should be an elite
olive ember
according to my tests, any non-horde enemy is considered an elite.
so basicall...
Nope elites are specifically gunners maulers ragers
Everything else is considered a special
brazen temple
Nope elites are specifically gunners maulers ragers
nope, sharpshooter has "trigger on elite kill" perk that is activated on everything
olive ember
Bugged
brazen temple
ah really?
leaden thunder
are ogyrn's elites or specials?
summer prairie
crushers, bulwarks, reapers, maulers, gunners, shotgunners, ragers are elites
olive ember
Ogryns are considered specials
long wharf
no
north cradle
Essence Harvest
Psykinetic's Wrath
Wrack and Ruin
Cerebral Lacerations
Mind in Motion
Kinetic Overload
Quicken
Oh yeah it's time to Psyker
long wharf
no no no
any enemy that spawns with a group is an Elite
they do not have individual, unique spawning audio cues
olive ember
Who tf even knows buggy ass traits apply differently
long wharf
specialists are the ones with spawning audio cues and audio so you can track them
safe crystal
A rule of thumb for what a elite is, and what a special is. As long as you can tag it. Elites are walking around the map, specialists spawn in with an audio cue
north cradle
Elite kills make a SWOOP sound and Specialist kills make a SCHWUMP sound
long wharf
dogs, mutants, trappers, flamers
north cradle
Thank you for coming to my TED Talk
long wharf
specialists
olive ember
KO “prioritizes elites” but that only means ragers maulers and gunners iirc
long wharf
correct, KO treats specialists as normal mobs
olive ember
Yep so it means which trait you are asking about specifically kek
For most of psyker abilities elites means gunners maulers ragers
Every other non trash enemy is considered a special
north cradle
Psykinetic's Aura says it procs on Elite kills but it also works on Specialists. Meanwhile Kinetic Overload doesn't even work on all Elites
olive ember
¯_(ツ)_/¯
split oxide
Can you block poxbursters wityh primary or alt-purge.
or am I doing it wrong.
full health - thrown off map - land on sand-clearing killed me
north cradle
You can't stagger Poxbursters with Purgatus if that's what you're asking
olive ember
Just use surge staff kek
split oxide
Just use surge staff kek
I moved from Surge... reflexes killed me.
north cradle
Use a melee weapon to push them as they're armed and dodge backwards, or Surge Staff to immobilise them
upper galleon
Elites don't have audio ques, specialists do (not sure about sniper)
safe crystal
Snipers only if you're close enough to hear their little pitter patter when they move around
leaden thunder
it should be a specialist but I think it's elite
since other then the shot they have no real que
north cradle
I don't think even Trappers have audio cues when they spawn, only when they're moving around
safe crystal
Trappers do have a audio cue on spawn, its louder for the person they're targeting initially
north cradle
Loud?
split oxide
Elites don't have audio ques, specialists do (not sure about sniper)
Snipers used to * vrmmt *.
I don't recall them doing it these days.(just the flash)
leaden thunder
zealot main
upper galleon
honestly snipers not having noise
north cradle
I always thought Trapper audio was when they're moving after spawning, whoops
upper galleon
makes sense and I couldn't stand VT2 Assassins
leaden thunder
idk about having a spawn que necissarily but all specialists have very very obvious noises they make
olive ember
Ogryns aren’t elites iirc they are considered as terrors wte that means and are considered a type of special
north cradle
The Gutter Runners?
summer prairie
they are absolutely elites
upper galleon
SNEAKING STABBING
olive ember
Nah pretty sure they aren’t
Atleast the things I’ve tested on em they weren’t considered elites
upper galleon
worst assassins ever, someone should tell the deathmaster of these noisy, good for nothing assassins
summer prairie
The code says they are, you get cdr when you kill them with the aura and your passive +elite dmg works against then
olive ember
This was a while back tho so
safe crystal
SNEAKING STABBING
Gutter runner stash on Horny Magnus PTSD kicks in
leaden thunder
"SWARM THEM YES YES"
long wharf
ogryns 100% are elites
upper galleon
alright take 7 of trying to level my psyker alt
leaden thunder
they should be if they aren;t
olive ember
Welp I’ll take your word for it
long wharf
Kinetic Overload thinks they're elites
leaden thunder
by spawn logic they are elites at the very least
long wharf
and there's no code in KO that specifically targets ogryns
olive ember
I remember another interaction where ogryns were considered specials but
Meh Idr what so
long wharf
I bet you remember an interaction where you expected specials to be affected and saw ogryns were
meaning the wording on what you were testing was wrong
ogryns 100% are elites
olive ember
Maybe
long wharf
devs have said so, numerous tests have proven it so
the #1 differentiator is that you will never find a pre-spawned special enemy
they always spawn via the AI director
and have unique audio cues
leaden thunder
though there are a couple spots that will spawn a specific set of specials
they just aren't already there
long wharf
elites can be found pre-existing in the level before players get to an area
elites can be spawned specifically as well
leaden thunder
like the end of the tree level will allways spawn a dog,mutie or trapper when you walk past a certain area
long wharf
specials are never found pre-existing in the level
leaden thunder
yeah they aren't prespawned they just will then spawn when you pass a point
slow sedge
Looking to complete Malleus Monstronum; not sure where to put this but anyone willing?
long wharf
use the LFG channels
slow sedge
10-4
hollow portal
My headcanon for who "Beloved" is. A wholesome daemonette like Syll Lewdtongue
lament topaz
How goes it, schizos?
lament topaz
My headcanon for who "Beloved" is. A wholesome daemonette like Syll Lewdtongue
Bruh, I wish a girl would tell me that at some point.
hollow portal
Ikr
lament topaz
Ah well.
steel vapor
gud or nud?
steel vapor
is the low damage a yikes?
summer prairie
doesn't particularly matter for breakpoints
long wharf
it's trauma, the entire staff is a yikes
steel vapor
seems to be roughly 20-ish damage im missing out on, so probably not
steel vapor
it's trauma, the entire staff is a yikes
didnt it get buffed?
frozen osprey
Bruh, I wish a girl would tell me that at some point.
I like seeing you happy (:
lament topaz
But have you?
frozen osprey
I would like to
olive ember
Wholesomeness in my 40k experience?
olive ember
idle bay
It's not like i'm ever gonna use it, since there axes available. I'll just grab it for memes
long wharf
buy everything that has modifier rating 370+
I just bought a 375 chainsword that I'm pretty sure I'll never use
at some point next year, we'll have a full crafting system
idle bay
I never touched Copium, i'm on "Notgivafuckium" right from the launch. Was on Hopium during beta.
Anthem vibes it gave were too strong to ignore 🙂
long wharf
Anthem vibes it gave were too strong to ignore 🙂
oof, this hit me super hard when the game released
I had fun, but the utter lack of complete systems around the core gameplay loop just screamed "development took a wild turn shortly before launch" to me
idle bay
oof, this hit me super hard when the game released
You had to live through it once. It felt like once in lifetime experience
But now there are copycats.. or copysharks to be exact 🙂
idle bay
I was so hyped for Anthem
I took vacation to match it's launch
long wharf
I knew there was no way that was going to happen
idle bay
The Loot ™ - That one was dead indicator that game will be dead soon. In addition to EA
safe pendant
Can't trust EA with anything
long wharf
I think I put just over 200 hours into Anthem before being done
Anthem wasn't EA's fault
Anthem was the direct result of mismanagement at Bioware
go read post mortems on Anthem, it's all publicly known what happened
idle bay
EA enabled it like Saul Goodman enabled Heizenberg. Without them being fooled by tech demo - nothing would have happened. So they are to blame as well by causality reasons
long wharf
that tech demo was always going to happen
north cradle
I knew Anthem didn't look good from the start. It looked like if you took Warframe's combat and Destiny's movement, instead of having Warframe's movement and Destiny's combat
long wharf
EA wasn't going to let Bioware go another 5 years without having shown anything
Anthem looked great
leaden thunder
anthem had neat combat
long wharf
I loved the movement, the flying, and combat
long wharf
absolutely everything else
leaden thunder
I think it's combat is shared by andromeda
which is like the best part of that meh game
long wharf
lack of loot, lack of builds, lack of content, lack of enemies
north cradle
I played the beta. It just took the worst of Destiny and Warframe to me
safe pendant
I tried playing Andromeda. I couldn't with the faces
long wharf
I suffered through ME:A for the sake of it being a Mass Effect game
long wharf
ME:A was what you get when you take a bunch of amateurs and tell them to recreate ME1
leaden thunder
lotsa builds and such makes my brain happy
idle bay
ME:A was what you get when you take a bunch of amateurs and tell them to recreat...
Just mentioning ME:A makes my face feel tired
long wharf
heh, no kidding
balmy zealot
gun psyker?
idle bay
gun psyker?
Revolver is for vets and zealots - be the true gun [syker - take a las pistol!
still hearth
Revolver is for no one.
Its for unhinged individuals like me.
That would rather stagger elites than just kill them.
cloud heron
maybe a dumb question, but bomber resistance protects against the fire effect, right?
so does it also protect against the fire barrels?
still hearth
Nope
At least from what I heard it doesn't do anything to the flames
Not even the bomber flames
still hearth
The grenade bonk
cloud heron
nice
still hearth
Tbf I didn't fact check it but I believe it was @viral solstice that said it only helps against the bonk
Look at that burn damage at the end though
magic burrow
https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/T1J6a2Biq9zRt/d1337PRxMzzu...
Im not sure what point this video is trying to make
still hearth
Im not sure what point this video is trying to make
Mostly just so I have proof that the staff doesn't upkeep stacks beyond its natural limit.
magic burrow
ahh, I see
maiden wolf
Didn't know these could spawn in the item shop.
maiden wolf
gun psyker?
leaden thunder
whats the normal level 30 talent if you aren't on purge?
maiden wolf
whats the normal level 30 talent if you aren't on purge?
Kinetic Barrage
maiden wolf
whats the normal level 30 talent if you aren't on purge?
Quicken is underrated IMO, but Kinetic Barrage allows you to keep your warp charges when you use your ult.
My standard non-purge build uses Quietude with Kinetic Deflection and a non-force melee for the passive quell. You can regenerate toughness passively whenever you're not using your staff.
Doesn't work without a staff though.
leaden thunder
gunker is sorta pointless to me rn
maiden wolf
I want to see a feat that gives you bonus penetration and stagger in exchange for peril. Would make Gunker viable
I've been collecting autopistols in case that ever happens.
leaden thunder
make kinetic flayer not have a cd if you are using a gun(or something like that)
maiden wolf
make kinetic flayer not have a cd if you are using a gun(or something like that)
Maybe if they dramatically lowered the cooldown, IMO they should just replace wrack and ruin with my gun feat idea. That, or buff wrack and ruin and adopt your suggestion for kinetic flayer.
still hearth
What is up with my luck
Using Purge:
Zealot with flamer
Psyker with Purge
Ogryn with Twin-Stubber
Literally the most horde clear team I've ever seen
Most of the time it was better to just BB.
long wharf
that's one of the benefits of running surge - having another surge on the team doesn't hinder the team in any way
overlap doesn't lead to uselessness
idle bay
There is a wierd tech with Surge staff when you can stagger more that 5 (or was it 6) targets with a single zzap. You just need to spin camera really fast, then intial target of the zap switches staring a new chain.. .while it still the same zap 🙂
maiden wolf
There is a wierd tech with Surge staff when you can stagger more that 5 (or was ...
Surge staggers 6 by default.
idle bay
I already feel a fix coming : - Psyker can no longer move camera when using Surge staff secondary attack...
It's rather stupid tech but it helps delay wide-spread enemy push.
magic burrow
bug fix: surge staff now targets only a single target as intended
idle bay
bug fix: surge staff now targets only a single target as intended
and deal no damage - just a cool VFX
fluid pendant
Surge staff now generates a static charge that enables pox walkers to shoot lightning back at the psyker, as intended.
idle bay
If you need a stress-relief after coping with current state and future of Psykers - I posted my cat playing ball like a dog in pet-tide 🙂 He is a bit scary smart.
maiden wolf
Didn't know these could spawn in the item shop.
Has anyone found a FS with shred and blazing spirit? I'd love to try a FS-based soulblaze build.
summer prairie
I think someone got a bloodthirsty+blazing spirit
idle bay
Has anyone found a FS with shred and blazing spirit? I'd love to try a FS-based ...
By the time you get enough Soulblaze stack to do noticeable damage - target will die from 100+ pokes with that sword 🙂
maiden wolf
By the time you get enough Soulblaze stack to do noticeable damage - target will...
My hope was that they would be a good way to build warp charges rather than doing damage.
idle bay
I think someone got a bloodthirsty+blazing spirit
In a few months.. we should be able to get Chainsword with Bloodthirsty (happens often) and do the blessing transfer to Force Sword with soulblaze
idle bay
My hope was that they would be a good way to build warp charges rather than doin...
My hope that they will end our suffering and disable the Psyker class.
More realistic expectation 🙂
summer prairie
Chainsword with bloodthirsty doesn't seem to happen any more frequently than FS bloodthirsty
idle bay
What's a good psyker stick?
It's matter of personal taste
leaden thunder
purgatus is very strong, surge is the mega stun machine
voidstrike sorta falls off I've heard
and trauma seems to do good work but throws things around and that annoys people
maiden wolf
purgatus is very strong, surge is the mega stun machine
Voidstrike is great with transfer peril for sustained use, and has the longest range of any psyker staff, it isn't as good at self defence though.
timid storm
purgatus is the one I like, but you really need a good vet to play it
it has no range capabilities
unless you wanna constantly be hiding behind walls
near wyvern
What's a good psyker stick?
The one that you find fun to use
near wyvern
voidstrike sorta falls off I've heard
It does a bit but with the recent patch to transfer peril and quietitude void is back on the menu for damnation. You just gotta always at least half charge or and have a good damage roll. Explosion roll doesn't matter.
And obviously you gotta land those head shots
In case you didn't know, a charged void ball stops a plague ogryn charge, so there is that as well.
magic burrow
voidstrike feels bad in higher difficulties because even basic enemies start facetanking shots, and needing fully charged shots to take out even the small rabble just feels bad. I feel I have to keep pointing this out, but a voidstrike staff with a max damage roll deals about half the damage of a veteran's plasma gun that effectively has the same mechanic sans the peril demon screaming in your ear
long wharf
only plasma can pierce bulwark shields and walls
near wyvern
voidstrike feels bad in higher difficulties because even basic enemies start fac...
Except you can't roll it through 30+ heads at once
leaden thunder
plasma is a bit different
void seems for hoard plasma is for scary things
is what I feel like they do
magic burrow
Except you can't roll it through 30+ heads at once
who cares about hordes when you have a powersword
near wyvern
Void is like a revolver with less damage but infinite ammo
cloud heron
Void is like a revolver with less damage but infinite ammo
I don't like void but a charged void is definitely better than a revolver
long wharf
you get a really satisfying sound when you headshot with void, though
near wyvern
The crunches
wise quail
Charged void down a corridor with a horde and hearing those pops and crunches 🥵
vernal portal
Just got this as an emperor's gift on my psyker lol
near wyvern
I also like the fact that when you see a gunner at the end of the corridor you can just be like. "There are a thousand things between us. But none of those are going to stop me from killing you." And then you just bully it to death with massive collateral damage.
sacred dome
and trauma seems to do good work but throws things around and that annoys people
Ye trauma is a bit annoying to use as well, a little faster charge-up and it would be very nice.
Voidstrike for me atm just because it's very easy to use.
cloud heron
Just got this as an emperor's gift on my psyker lol
Woah, 390? That's definitely the highest i've seen the display bug go
i thought that was from everything rolling to a .5 value and each number rounding up, making 385 the theoretical max
frozen osprey
Woah, 390? That's definitely the highest i've seen the display bug go
truly, it is blessed
summer prairie
pretty sure the bug is related to the blessing tiers, so to go that high you need two t4s
timid storm
Anyone else get way too powerful supression effects on their psyker?
When shot at, sometimes my visuals will go nearly full black
Only happens on psyker
magic burrow
Just got this as an emperor's gift on my psyker lol
emperor is telling you to reroll veteran
timid storm
Im guessing it's some interaction with peril and suppression
leaden thunder
emperor is telling you to reroll veteran
it would be if headhunters where good
vernal portal
Shame we can't transfer weapons haha
cloud heron
Shame we can't transfer weapons haha
All of my best gun rolls have been on my psyker
like it's not even close
near wyvern
Woah, 390? That's definitely the highest i've seen the display bug go
Except it's a 379
idle bay
Yay another decent Trauma staff i'll never use 🙂
cloud heron
Except it's a 379
Yeah i know about the display bug, but 390 is the highest number i've seen displayed
long wharf
I should never have checked the shop for my ogryn, a great 380 ripper... that he can't afford
snow dust
RIPer
long wharf
yep
long wharf
don't remember, shop's already rotated
north cradle
Mk 2 Ripper Gun best Ripper Gun
Maybe I should go back to Vermintide 2 after I 100% Veteran
Well, complete his Heresy penances rather
leaden thunder
the no damage one you gotta have a cooperative team
long wharf
nonsense
leaden thunder
I mean to cheese
long wharf
jump off a ledge, have the team then leave you to die and they finish the mission without you
leaden thunder
thats what I mean
long wharf
always assume "have a cooperative team" when talking about penances
you shouldn't be trying to chase penances with a pug
leaden thunder
I mean like don't just do it randomly yeah
safe pendant
I must have griefed so many pugs with my constant mission quitting when I went for vet penances
covert ermine
cloud heron
the no damage one you gotta have a cooperative team
You can definitely get On Overwatch in a random game
leaden thunder
I have been in squads where someone got it while not trying to
I was more refering to the cheese
since it makes it so they are down a player
since you just commit die right at the begining and don't get picked up
covert ermine
why there are no demonhosts?
cloud heron
why there are no demonhosts?
Just wait for a lights out mission to pop up
sinful stream
the no damage one you gotta have a cooperative team
This penance should just be done playing normally, it actually rewards being good at the game
The only vet penance I see an argument for cheesing is the no ammo one, but it's certainly doable if you use the shotgun/plasma gun
idle bay
Oh! Shiny !
idle bay
This penance should just be done playing normally, it actually rewards being goo...
Not with current hit registration ! 🙂 Ammo penance became nearly impossible
north cradle
I did On Overwatch at level 4 because the Ogryn stuck close to me
The Heresy Penances will take a bit of time for me to get proper gear and Counterfire
floral solstice
https://tenor.com/view/did-i-stutter-serious-the-office-gif-14489496
oh god i just woke up and this is the first thing i saw