psyker-class

[river sand]

if you charge one to half it goes through 10 and kills em all .. in the same time you kill 1 with uncharged

[still hearth]

It actually just performs terribly unless you charge it

Yeah

[olive ember]

you see if you played the game long enough you would instinctively dodge the moment you heard the s in sniper

simply a skill issue

git gud

[forest coral]

needs to be charged otherwise you do nothing but create a hyperdense hoard

[safe crystal]

Has anyone tried blocking a sniper shot with a deflector FS and get punished for trusting ObeseMegalodon making sure ALL ranged attacks get blocked by it? Or is it just me?

[regal musk]

UNcharged shotrs are basically just for melee range self defense to clear space for a bigger charge IMO

[cyan notch]

there was once a guy who was spamming void not only was he doing 0 damage to anything he also blew himself up like 6 times

[river sand]

true

[regal musk]

Sound sliek he had a fetish.

[river sand]

but if you havent tried yet, get a trauma with high dmg, range and charge and wracks some havoc, as soon as you get used to the aiming you'll have a blast with it

[cyan notch]

i asked him how many times he blew up he said lol im trying this new void macro my friend told me about it yesterday

this is a disease

[olive ember]

he just learned about it yesterday?

clearly he isn't enlightened like we who sit in psyker chat all day

for no apparent reason

[cyan notch]

i mean we dont talk about void spam that often

[still hearth]

Charged shot macro? 💤
Primary shot macro?

[cyan notch]

which is good cuz that shit needs to be buried

[olive ember]

wonder if that macro could be applied to trauma

make everything fly

[steel vapor]

Am i right in assuming this is a yikes because of the blast radius?

[still hearth]

Not really

You'll probably miss out on like 0.3 m of redius for the damage part

[river sand]

blast radius doesnt vary so much

[still hearth]

The biggest difference is the knockback radius

Which I actually prefer to keep lower

[regal musk]

Mostly seems to affect the invisible ragdoll shockwave

[steel vapor]

huh

[still hearth]

I think the epicenter goes from 1.5m to 2.5m at 100%

[steel vapor]

seems solid then

[still hearth]

While the outer radius is like 5m to 10m?

[still hearth]

Even better.

[still hearth]

Wait

[steel vapor]

so like, are we talking about

the same staff

[still hearth]

Oh

Voidstrike

[steel vapor]

lel

[still hearth]

Yeah the blast radius is a dump

Literally doesn't matter

You want to hit enemies directly

Sorry my brain is in loading mode

https://tenor.com/view/no-brain-loading-slow-gif-16361840

The Voidstrike explosion does like 1 damage too

[steel vapor]

ait, so its basically a pog stat distribution, good to know

[river sand]

important for trauma is that your charged shots can 1 shot all horde mobs on t5 and fast charge

[regal musk]

Wouldnt call it a dump stat if your goal is the ragdoll.
This is with a 70ish radius trauma. That guy waaay on the left gets ragdolled. Smaller blast radius significantly reduces that effective gap.

[cyan notch]

i dont think anybody's goal is the ragdoll

they just wanna kill shit

[regal musk]

KNowing the mechanics of what the stat effects is important to use it properly.
Even if the goal isnt purely CC, better to know that ragdoll radius than not.

[still hearth]

Big explosion = good

[river sand]

using this one atm, wish for better blessings

[cyan notch]

of course but thats a different point. knowing what a stat does is different from having "ragdoll as your goal"

[regal musk]

I probably mispoke a bit. I didnt mean as "Only take the trauma specifically to knock shit around"
When firing uncharged shots for CC purposes, that blast radius makes a big difference. As shown above, when you need to CC a horde it has a wiiiide radius. Unc harged shoudl be abit smaller but still quite wide. Didnt really test uncharged shots much since it wasnt what i was looking into at the time i made the clip

[cyan notch]

should get + infested or + ranged damage (poxwalker/groaner)

80% damage doesnt kill poxwalker horde dudes

though if u have warp charges it should be fine

[restive slate]

Isn't there a blessing that quells peril on weakspot for trauma? Does it apply if their everything is blown up with secondary?

[lethal folio]

Explosion cannot into weakspot.

[near wyvern]

Speaking of which, you want to have PW feat to make that super easy to achieve

For trauma, the stat priority is:

1. Charge Rate and Blast Radius
2. Quell speed
3. Warp resist
4. Damage

With any decent damage roll and taking Psykinetic's Wrath you can one shot all horde mobs when above 50 peril except Dreg Bruisers, so all you need then is a couple warp charges or +unarmoured perk and the rest is what you want

...

The damage table for trauma is miss leading since it doesn't take explosive resist into equation. The infested for example take less damage from explosions.

[still hearth]

Literally does 2x damage on WS hits

Thanks Fatshark

That's the kind of design you want

[still hearth]

Speaking of

[near wyvern]

Yes it's a lazy solution for the table

[still hearth]

Its very Fatshark tbf

[split oxide]

I feel the 'red laser' acquisition/shot has definitely been tweaked to be faster.

[tidal violet]

So, like, what's the stereotype of Psykers not grabbing any deployables about?

I see it like, a third of every psyker round.

[cyan notch]

the what

like ammo/health packs?

[tidal violet]

Yes. Last round one - nothing in the slot - ran past a scrip, too.

[cyan notch]

i mean i pick ammo and health packs up

[fierce sinew]

I'm aware of no such stereotype, but I imagine maybe those players are just less attentive to boxes etc because they don't need to be

[cyan notch]

personally dont care about scriptures or grims so i dont pick em up

[fierce sinew]

with no need for ammo

[sudden vapor]

I need to get the pick and mix (5 specials in 12 seconds) and my luck with maps and other players has been less than stellar

[cyan notch]

unless teammates spam ping it

[near wyvern]

WDYM I run cells all the time. Sprint slide spam is really food for objective carrying

[near wyvern]

They are just incompetent

[cyan notch]

like cool if you need grims or scrips ping em but sometimes i aint gonna be your weekly contract bot all the time

[daring elbow]

What is the best dueling sword and blessings for hordes

[cyan notch]

there was a dude who was raging at the team for not picking up a 2nd grim on heresy

they didnt want it and he threw a fit

[daring elbow]

How do you get mad in this game

[cyan notch]

just afked in a corner during objectives

[daring elbow]

its just a silly little place

[cyan notch]

unfortunately for him he got vote kicked so he instead of 1 grim he got 0

[daring elbow]

lol.

[daring elbow]

Got that by mistake yesterday

last one I need is the one where you kill yourself

any tips on how to do that

[near wyvern]

For hordes that would be the one with 4 light combo, don't remember if it was IV or II

[sudden vapor]

I am not that lucky

[near wyvern]

For blessings you want shred and then rampage

[sudden vapor]

go in malice, find an orgryn buddy to group the elites up, ragers works best

give the ragers a little lovetap first and then boom

[daring elbow]

does the head explosion have falloff

[near wyvern]

Brain Burst?

[daring elbow]

no the self explosion

[sudden vapor]

it does yes

the self explosion

[daring elbow]

lame

ill have to practice in psykanukm

[sudden vapor]

generally speaking the position of the elites in the psykanukm, you stand in the middle of them then thats about the distance you should be minimum

closer the better, give them a cuddle

[upper galleon]

Dear psykers, how do you deal with grim runs

on my vet I have toughness and zealot and ogryn HP

when I play psyker and we 2 grim, even with some (admittedly weak resistance curios cause it is an alt) I often get very harmed by corruption

there has been several games where I hit 2 hp and have to pray i make it to the next med station

[safe crystal]

Just dont get hit 4head

Run 1 wound curio, is the more serious answer

At least you wont get killed by the grims alone

[upper galleon]

Oh i try

sometimes I do, sometimes i get gotted by a dog pouncing a teammate nearby me

[sudden vapor]

oh for crying out loud, had 4 shotgunners and a ranger lined up, bloody vet killed the last shotgunner

after i asked not to in advance

[safe crystal]

The Baross map where you hack the console for the elevator around halfway through has guaranteed shotgunners and gunners spawn in when you finish the hack, thats one of the easier places you can get it. Other than that, look for a group of shotgunners, they should die in one hit on the explosion, and they tend to stay in melee range

If you find 3 ragers, you can safely brain burst each of them as long as no other damage has been dealt to them on heresy. That should leave them with very low amounts of hp for the explosion, and you're conveniently already blowing up from peril

1 BB each*

[idle bay]

Is only me or game is extra sluggish today? Lag and input delay - playing feels like it's 90-s again and i'm playing via dial-up-modem.

[ornate hamlet]

servers have been dogshit off and on since launch dude

that's honestly one of my biggest gripes with the game, that and how blessings can ruin your weapon and re-bless still isn't in yet

[near wyvern]

@upper galleon you just gotta learn how to deal with the buggy dogs and stuff. For dogs it's best if you can find a corner or an object you can hide behind and spam attack. Otherwise you gotta time your push when the dog leaps. There is no point in trying to dodge them.

[upper galleon]

yes but counter point

the dog didn't pounce on me

it pounced on an ally near me

and the damage spillover the leap does

killed me

[safe crystal]

Wait, it does damage? I thought it just staggers you so you cant block

[upper galleon]

yes, but it is miniscule it wouldn't be an issue

[safe crystal]

Huh. TIL

[near wyvern]

Counter counter point. The push still works. Also if you have trauma, LMB works but it hits in a straight line despite the visuals. Ult also works. Void LMB and RMB works. Surge LMB and RMB works. Trauma LMB and RMB works. Purge RMB only works if you have enough time to blaze it for 1-2 seconds.

And then there is the option to run 2 health 1 wound

On curios

I used to do that but now that kinetic deflection stops auto quelling I am using 1 toughness 1 stamina 1 wound with kinetic shielding

And almost always running with a combat blade or duelling mk V

[still hearth]

Ogryn says I'm good

In Malice

[cyan notch]

gg elizabethu

[still hearth]

Ogryn forgot the space bar

Very Ogryn

[slow karma]

A compliment's a compliment.

Besides, people so often forget that pugs are trash and malice can be plenty stressful for some folks

Having someone actually know what they're doing can feel like a breath of fresh air

[still hearth]

It's funny that in lower difficulties

People seem to appreciate you "carrying" more than in higher ones

Damnation Las Vet spamming Crusher will never say good job when you save them

[near wyvern]

I opened a medi bag once. Our ogryn had like 10% HP left. I pinged the medi bag and the rest of the team came for heals, except the ogryn. I tried to type in chat for him to come to heal but no response. Then I typed in that "I forgot Ogryns were illiterate". We others had a very good laugh on that ogryn moment.

[slow karma]

Because that's expected minimum up that high

Damnation doesn't give you shit for wiggle room

[still hearth]

But then that Vet is providing nothing the entire run

[slow karma]

Not that I'm justifying it

[still hearth]

[slow karma]

I'm just saying the mentality shifts the higher you go

[still hearth]

That's true

[slow karma]

It's one of the reasons I don't play damnation much to begin with

it's too inherently sweaty and I don't get anything out of it

[still hearth]

Also Ogryn 100% does things to your brain

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/SFjOVbWmwlEoJ/d1337ZqJmaLk?invite=cr-MSxoT2UsMTYwMDY1NDYwLA

See explosive man, see all my Zealots move up, Ogryn brain:
My gun one-shots, hehe.

[cyan notch]

0 wound enjoyers

[safe crystal]

Hey now, thats not exclusive to just Ogryns. Vets do it as well whenever i go for a push with their fancy bolters

[still hearth]

Veteran staring at the Burster.
You look at him.
They look at you.
You move up to push it.

BOLTER GOES BRRRR

[near wyvern]

There is too much random shit happening in the game, gotta have that +1 wound.

[still hearth]

Not as much onZealot or Ogryn

And we're all pre-mades

But Psyker or Vet I'd say its nice to have

[safe crystal]

I've learned how to cope with that though. Just shove the burster into the vet while hes busy doing something else. Yes, im petty

[near wyvern]

Well ogryn has +1 baked into the class?

[still hearth]

Yep

And Zealots just don't die every 90s

[safe crystal]

And i mean REALLY push it, with 5 FS pushes and a F just for good measure

[near wyvern]

If he was a lasgun crusher blaster then there is nothing wrong with it

[cyan notch]

wait you can push it when its down?

[still hearth]

Ye

[cyan notch]

i thought only surge could zap it around

[near wyvern]

Bowliiiing

[still hearth]

If they don't blow up

[safe crystal]

If the beeping doesnt stop, you can keep pushing it

[still hearth]

Which is usually because they're staggered twice

[safe crystal]

If beeping stops, it blows up when it gets up

[near wyvern]

Void can also push them on the ground

[cyan notch]

yea but surge is comical levels of push

[near wyvern]

Yes

[cyan notch]

dudes on the floor suddenly zapping it it goes 30m away

[safe crystal]

Well, thats a decent roll i guess

[bitter geode]

did fatshark remove toughness curios from the show or what? i havent seen a single one since the update came out

[slow karma]

Not at all

I see them all the time

[bitter geode]

im just unlucky then

[austere estuary]

I meant this

9.4MB only - on experimental branch though no patch notes

[ornate hamlet]

shadow buffs to veteran

[austere estuary]

[floral solstice]

or shadow nerf: staves and bb now uses ammo

[upper galleon]

That is a buff

Cause you can steal ammo from the vet

[young ridge]

Only acceptable if we also gain a 500% damage modifier to friendly fire against v*teran players

[near wyvern]

Just allow BB to lock onto friendlies and problem solved. People would also have easier time getting the Pick n Mix penance.

[ornate hamlet]

you ever play Borderlands 3?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVFAmG3nPro
the game was similar to darktide, multiplayer co-op, wasn't supposed to have friendly fire, but .. lul

[young ridge]

I remember ending all my friends with that explosive perk

[ornate hamlet]

that game was even buggier than darktide

and more unbalanced too

[bitter geode]

whats the max % i can get on a toughness curio?

[still hearth]

17

[bitter geode]

ty

[ornate hamlet]

toughness regen? i dunno mine are all 15%
i use 2 health and 1 toughness curio,
all three have toughness regen on them tho

[young ridge]

Only unbalance in darktide is that psyker is underpowered

[white sky]

Maybe it's cause I don't play with your average psyker, but the psykers I do play with are insanely good

Like, a genuine credit to the team every game

[ornate hamlet]

vets rarely ever play like team players
ogryn do about half the time
zealot, since they move so quick, can come help even if they weren't nearby lol

psykers stick together, assist their bretheren

[white sky]

Not the average psyker tbf

[young ridge]

That's why psyker needs to be able to head pop veterans

[white sky]

The average psyker blows themselves up

A lot in my experience

[ornate hamlet]

that's why they stick together

[young ridge]

They're just excited

[white sky]

Anyway, I'm here to ask a simple question

What are the staves names and what do they do, in layman's terms?

I find I know objectively nothing about the space magic people

[ornate hamlet]

purg is flame thrower, it's left mouse attack is different than other staves and is an AoE CC/stagger (best all around imo)
surge is chain lightning (best CC, worse dps)
void is fireball (long range but meh dps and meh cc)
trauma is ground targetted AoE (targetting sucks too much to be worth using imo)

[white sky]

Thank you

So void throws the ball?

That if it hits a head it gets infinite pen

[ornate hamlet]

void shoots fireballs that penetrate enemies if charged up fully

[white sky]

I'm thinking about making a psyker for the drip

[covert ermine]

Oh so you also like run around with a fucking toilet seat on your shoulders?

[ornate hamlet]

psyker is difficult to play well, but is actually a versatile class with the right builds

[covert ermine]

[young ridge]

Void and surge are great

[white sky]

I'm a very longtime verm vet

[young ridge]

Other ones are meh

[white sky]

I'm just a BH Saltz main, so clearly I went vet

[river sand]

trauma > void since last patch

[ornate hamlet]

i never really liked void to begin with

[white sky]

It's all about feeling for me

I think I'll like the void or purge staff

[ornate hamlet]

purg>surg>void>trauma imo

[river sand]

surge / trauma > void > purg

[young ridge]

Wait trauma is good now?

[river sand]

trauma is great

[ornate hamlet]

example of how i play my axe/purg staff build

i wouldn't go so far as to say trauma is "great" it's biggest problem before was that it caused way too much peril when using it,
fatshark rebalanced the peril, which was it's biggest downside, but it's targetting still sux

goodluck targetting anything above you with trauma

[young ridge]

Is peril the only change?

[river sand]

the moment you get used to the targeting, which isnt that much of a flaw, it outshines the others in most scenarios

[steel vapor]

Man if only you could use trauma on walls it would;
1 - be super cool
2- targeting issues fixed

[river sand]

yeah full charge is 20-25% now

[young ridge]

I'll try it but I'm sceptical

Surge will probably be best for a long time

[river sand]

surge is always great

[white sky]

Chop chop chop

[steel vapor]

Surge is also really good for the talent that gives you headpops

Makes keeping up warocharges very simple

Same with purge

[river sand]

every other staff as well

[steel vapor]

I find trauma and voidstrike often bricks

[white sky]

Also, what voice yall like?

Leaning "my beloved" or evil German scientist for male currently

[still hearth]

Void is trash

Anything that isn't XII = trash

Enforcer fem is nice

The least weirdo

[white sky]

Too serious

I play Loose Cannon vet and Fanatic Zeal

[steel vapor]

Weird > less weird - you are a psyker after all

[still hearth]

Ew

I'd rather not have wet dreams or be edgy all the time

[white sky]

You gotta enjoy what you're doing

[still hearth]

[forest coral]

have dry dreams instead

[steel vapor]

Give up on your dreams

[white sky]

I think human psykers should also be just a degree unhinged

Like marines I get being "sane" and "normal"

But you? Hive scum?

Degenerate thrown onto a ship?

Are probably a touch unhinged

If I grew up hearing everyone's thoughts I'd probably be unhinged too

[cyan notch]

yea thats why i picked her lmao

the everything is a dream shit is lame

and the loner i kinda dont like her voice

[forest coral]

loner psyker interactions are interesting tho

[still hearth]

I enjoy being the sanest option in a group of weirdos

[forest coral]

like melk actually treats them nice

[white sky]

"No four shortened lifespans"

[forest coral]

Loner roasting zealot telling them their high gothic is fake af

[still hearth]

That one is funny

But Agitator is super rare

[white sky]

The Psyker has been created

Uh

Why the hell does psyker start with a gun and a sword

[idle bay]

To prepare you to live and play in constant frustration

It's not a class for a weak-willed

[blissful kestrel]

My guess is that ammo is easier to understand and deal with for new players. In VT2 Sienna (spellcaster) was the character the smallest portion of the playerbase got to max level. I suspect this is in part because new players kept blowing themselves up a lot.

[white sky]

I present to yall, Seath

I went Loner

[steel vapor]

<- Pug

If you get the reference you get a cookie

[white sky]

I do not

[steel vapor]

I keep my cookie

[near wyvern]

Not true. Void got a huge buff now that transfer peril works with Quietitude. All the staves are good in their own thing.

[idle bay]

It's corpse starch cookie anyway

[manic needle]

Trauma? You mean Voidstrike?

I didnt think Transfer worked with Trauma except on LMB, unless there was something that changed last patch

[near wyvern]

Yeah void sorry

[near wyvern]

Remember to use the Psykinetic's Wrath (2-1) feat. Otherwise it's hard to one shot horde mobs, makes a huge difference when you do.

[near wyvern]

It's part of the learning progress

[sudden vapor]

Finally got Pick and mix! just the monster one now

[idle bay]

it's Sanguinalla for my Vet. Meme weapon with 380 base is exactly what he needs 🙂

[manic needle]

Best things Ive gotten from the store recently are that 377 green Purgatus that I posted and a green 21% health trinket

Next time I actually play I'll upgrade 'em and see what I get

[near wyvern]

• experience and + curio chance on the curio for sure

[manic needle]

Probably but chances are Im not even playing again until the crafting system is improved, so we'll see what happens

The best thing they can do is get rid of lockouts, I dont even care if I have to play a stupid clicking game after that

[near wyvern]

If that is the case I would just save the mats in the hope they reduce costs

[manic needle]

Unfortunately Im out and lost the motivation to grind out more

Curio upgrading is expensive

[near wyvern]

I just get my curios from Melk

[idle bay]

Play as Ogryn it's a best stress relief

And Ogryn's chats is most wholesome

[near wyvern]

So they can read?

[manic needle]

I'm actually planning on doing some Terraria with friends over the coming weeks

[idle bay]

Secret Ogryn language

[manic needle]

I also have been wanting to give The Isle a try for a while

So after I play some other games I can come back and see how Broketide is faring

[near wyvern]

See you next year then

[manic needle]

I cant wait to catch up on all the innovative Psyker nerfs when I come back 🙂

[idle bay]

it will be a long read to list all the nerfs 🙂

[near wyvern]

As long as one of us is clearing damnation it's not nerfed enough

[cyan notch]

stam regen nerf next

[near wyvern]

True

At least I am 90% sure they are going to touch objective crouch sliding

[idle bay]

x3 toughness damage mod for standing, walking, sprinting and sliding will do as next nerf

[white sky]

I have decided I am a brain burst only psyker till I get a force sword and or a staff

[cyan notch]

good luck with that

hope u have a decent melee

[idle bay]

BB psyker was badass in early beta, then nerfed into oblivion.

[white sky]

Yeah you get like 2 of these bastards

[manic needle]

You will play how Fatshark wants you to play in this scoreboardless cooperative game.

[white sky]

Yeah, better then everyone else

[supple skiff]

Forever impresed with their design philosophy tbh. They must have done some pain staking testing to determine a gameplay loop that would keep all of 30% of its recent players happy

[leaden thunder]

I think my psyker is cursed

I keep having to clutch/carry in fucking malic

[feral topaz]

nah thats just malice for ya

[leaden thunder]

I have 0 issues with it one all of my other characters

but I just had these people die 8 times in the last area of of the water treatment level

8 times

on the bright side it's making me learn psyker very quickly

[feral topaz]

then your rng is Godly on all other chars

[leaden thunder]

might be becuase my psyker isn't maxed or something

[young ridge]

Same. Also why I feel we should be allowed to attack veterans

[idle bay]

And we need to be allowed to BB Zealots

[supple skiff]

It’s always funny When the planets align and you get stuck with three people that I’ve no idea what they’re doing that somehow managed to turn malice into a slog

Anything higher than malice and I get chapped tho lol

[near wyvern]

Herecy and more is a learning curve but if you push yourself into it you can turn into a true space wizard

[still hearth]

Zealots will welcome being reduced to low HP

[idle bay]

That is exactly why i'm asking!

[still hearth]

If you had to create three different playstyles out of reworking and changing the feats what would you do?

I'd want:
A BB focused lineup.
A Soulblaze focused lineup.
A melee/survivability focused lineup.

We already have a mix of these but it feels like aside from Soulblaze the other two are just not quite there, and the generic options overshadow the BB focused ones

[idle bay]

At this point i'm scared of any changes that Fatshark will do to Psyker, we should be happy with incoherent scraps we have for now.
But naturally if FGatsark have a mental capacity and will do anything good with Psykers withing the bound of current subclass then it will be....
Exactly as you suggested. With addition of more powerful automatic Warp explosion if character goes down.

[still hearth]

Oh yeah this was only for feat purposes. Its a shame the explosion does pitiable damage on higher difficulties

[cyan notch]

it aint supposed to do shit

at least it knocks down

[idle bay]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/10o6xqi/use_for_experience_after_level_30_more_meta/
Some suggestions what to with all the Exp that goes into nothing after lvl 30... Will never happen (save for season pass maybe in 6 months or so) but still worth asking

[still hearth]

I think the level 5 feats are serviceable but when a paltry 30% regen over 5 seconds is the best option overall its a bit wack. I'd keep Essence Harvest but maybe make it do more per stack of charges.

I'd change the 10% on warp kills to 10% on kill. Makes it melee/gun viable.

And Quietitude should give 2x peril to toughness.

So 100% peril = 100% toughness

At minimum

[cyan notch]

i like quietitude

ill take any buffs gladly

[still hearth]

[summer prairie]

100=100 would be ridiculous

[still hearth]

I still prefer it myself

[idle bay]

I'm using "Warp Absorbtion"
Replenish 10% Toughness when you kill an enemy with a Warp attack. And only switching to Harvest when of Purgatus...

[still hearth]

Well we allow Veterans to exist so

[cyan notch]

i never liked warp absorption

10% is pathetic

doesnt help against ranged

[still hearth]

I like warp, but Quietitude is comfy

And EH just blocks some shots by existing

[manic needle]

It was honestly better than Quietude or Harvest for Void before the changes to Transfer Peril tbh

[still hearth]

Well

Void is kinda trash tho

[manic needle]

I have a grey 380 XII and I am never upgrading it

[leaden thunder]

which sucks becuase it's probably my favorite

[still hearth]

Good good

[manic needle]

Im going to spam Voidstrike even HARDER

[still hearth]

I mean you can definitely make it work

[leaden thunder]

I mean you can make a lot of things work

[still hearth]

I mean

Yes

Except Laspistol

[leaden thunder]

idk it's got some good crit chance, throw infernus on there

[still hearth]

Yeah but the gun also goes

pew pew

And that's unforgiveable

If I'm using a gun it better be either overtuned af

Or make sounds like I'm trying to wake the dead

[leaden thunder]

thats why I wish the shotgun was better

most the pistols need some buffs

sorry they all do

[arctic talon]

Wheres my fucking hand flamer?

[still hearth]

Autopistol is marginally saved by Pinning Fire

But at that point just use the braced autogun

[arctic talon]

All the peashooters are fun, would be nice to have blessings besides like run n gun thst made them worth using

Run n gun is fun

Want a braced autogun with that and sprint speed

[still hearth]

Run n Gun on staff not working with macro reset spam

[arctic talon]

Funny magic stick broken

[rare furnace]

Anybody want to do the boss brain burst penance ? I need a tank

[manic needle]

And youre asking Psyker chat?

Must think this is still 1.0.21

[rare furnace]

I mean you already know the penance

[still hearth]

Just use the intended game mechanic that lets you block infinitely on any class

[manic needle]

Is it "stand behind an Ogryn with a planted shield"?

[still hearth]

Press melee weapon swap when your guard breaks.

[manic needle]

Broketide saves the day

[still hearth]

It works on every weapon

Except one

Guess which

[manic needle]

Ill guess Force Sword because its the only Psyker exclusive weapon

[still hearth]

Slab shield

[manic needle]

wew

[still hearth]

You actually lock yourself into a block break loop

With the slab shield

Until you let the animation play

It's just a marvel how this game works

[manic needle]

"works" being used very liberally in that sentence

[cyan notch]

ds

[still hearth]

[manic needle]

Ahh fair

Although from a lore standpoint it doesnt really make sense

Not like other classes cant use a rapier lol

[still hearth]

You can use this technique with the claw parry

Which is, still bad

But it works

Aside from blocking DH, or to avoid horde damage, it's not very useful

But it technically is great on Vets

Since it lets them cry in a corner vs ragers

But I don't like playing Vet anyway

And Vet chat scares me

So I won't tell them

[cyan notch]

john shootgun

[idle bay]

Someone mentioned pistols?

[still hearth]

I love how that's still horrible even with a messed up macro play

Well tbf

[manic needle]

vibrates menacingly

[still hearth]

No weakspot shots

The only issue with macros (aside from dubious exploits) is that the server sometimes just ignores your inputs

And I tried to do some melee spam but the server refused to accept my swings after weapon swap

[idle bay]

Well with each passing week - it's not just sometimes already it's very often. Almost got me killed on vet quite a lot of times

[still hearth]

But I did like double the ATS of combat axes

[idle bay]

Weapon swap - not happening, relaod animation getting stuck, e t.c.

[still hearth]

Yeah it's rough to live in bad server game

[idle bay]

And block i love how it messes up block

[cyan notch]

getting hit in melee cuz i have my hands out and cant swap

[still hearth]

I get hit sometimes during claw parry and I'm 99% sure it's a server lag

[still hearth]

Block these hands

[clear heath]

It's still mostly fine for me, although it feels like the servers are getting a bit worse these days

[still hearth]

They definitely are

[cyan notch]

[still hearth]

In Hi5 every horde lags the game

[manic needle]

Less people playing, servers still somehow getting worse

[cyan notch]

player inputs should be the top priority

[still hearth]

Someone said it might be because of them using Amazon servers (?) and they're supposedly worse this time of year for some reason

No clue if that's true

But sharing servers with other things seems pretty silly

Especially if the provider is like that

[clear heath]

Using amazon servers isn't unusual

[idle bay]

Amazon servers are not allowed to have a bathroom breaks maintenance 🙂

[still hearth]

Ha

But yeah the netcode is also

Interesting

They say

I don't read so who knows

[clear heath]

well, this is fatshark's first time using dedicated servers for gameplay right? Doesn't surprise me that there are some issues

[cyan notch]

why dont they get some dedicated bitches lmfaooooooooio

[zealous onyx]

hey, any psykers wanna do the malleus monstronum penance with daemonhosts kills ? you need a shielded ogryn so we can take turns, and time so we all complete it

[cloud heron]

try the vox lfg channel

[still hearth]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/SPbMR7QZ3dpNZ/d1337xGyckw5?invite=cr-MSxTVm4sMTYwMDY1NDYwLA

[idle bay]

400 + hours of Bugtide and i just figured out - that if you break Boss's Shield with a slide attack - the shield explosion will not throw you away 🙂

[cloud heron]

The real camo expert

[still hearth]

We all climbed up there as well one game https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/SKmvwVcbXF9oA/d1337j3rGO82?invite=cr-MSw3QjUsMTYwMDY1NDYwLA

Then the sniper hit two of us because the other two were crouching

I found another spot as well where enemies just can't path to you

[cloud heron]

The zealot shouting "we're winning" is very funny

[still hearth]

I accidentally had that clip on loop

And I kept hearing it

I love that voice line

Here's another fun spot https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/SP3kdY-OI3dMC/d1337aXwrVjU?invite=cr-MSx0bUYsMTYwMDY1NDYwLA

I got bumped off by a shotgunner earlier

But I had like 10 pox

Standing and watching me

Look at him trying to use his nurlge magic on me at the end

[cyan notch]

theres a spot on some pipes at the start of the power matrix mission where they cant path to you too and theres a boss trigger there so u can technically fish for malleus there in a private match

how i found out was spawning into a horde full of ragers and bulwarks and an oddly afk plogryn then quickly died

then i see my teammate on some pipes slowly bb-ing it

[ornate hamlet]

noted, too situational tho, much easier to just get boss to melee you with your back to a wall
on healing box
with friendlies also meleeing for coherency and maximum dps

[vagrant cedar]

and now they gonna fix it

[idle bay]

It's not Psyker exclusive feature - so they will leave it be 🙂

[still hearth]

Fatshark Next Week™️ :

• Fixed a bug where Psyker could shove poxbursters. At all.

Are you guys hyped for when Fatshark kills passive quell

[idle bay]

• Fixed bug that Surge staff Charged attack stuns Mutants and Pox Hounds and .. stuns any foe. It's just damage now. And now it deals -99% to non armoured targets and -50% to armoured.

• Fixed bug that staff primary attack was flying in straight line. Now it flies like on this icon.

[floral solstice]

hello imperial guard, yes this one right here

[still hearth]

https://tenor.com/view/truth-the-you-cant-handle-the-truth-gif-12563764

[magic burrow]

fatshark is like an abusive parent

[idle bay]

• Fixed bug when Quelling Peril did not build up Corruption. Now it does!

• Fixed bug when Warp Explosion was not triggered with 10% chance when Psyker reached 100% Peril.

• Fixed bug when using Brain Burst, or any Force weapon, or Quelling (passive included) in 200m of inactive Demonhost will not awaken it.

• Fixed bug when Pox Hunds, Mutants, Trappers and Sniper were not prioritising Psyker in 100% of cases

[magic burrow]

fixed a bug where guns only showed up at double frequency in the shop

[idle bay]

Too soft

• Fixed bug with Force weapon showing in store for Psyker

[still hearth]

• Buffed Essence Harvest to last 30s. ||It now gives 1% Toughness per second||

[summer prairie]

There's still the bug causing 6-3 to lower charge time way more than intended

[still hearth]

We need a common system to refer to feats

And all items honestly

Its so funky to jump chats

And someone says 6-3. And I'm like (???), ah, right.

The sixth column.

Meanwhile Zealot uses 30-3

[summer prairie]

They are numbered in game

[cyan notch]

dont mention kinetic barrage

just leave it as it is

[still hearth]

What we need to do

Is nerf Quicken

https://tenor.com/view/laugh-anime-chuckle-gif-10903422

[floral solstice]

no, move it to 25 and remove the meme quell ms feat lol

[idle bay]

It's only 30 feat i'm using when not on Purgatus 🙂

[still hearth]

Unironically using Quicken

[idle bay]

I need to figure out a creative nerf for Quicken though

[still hearth]

You frighten me

[cyan notch]

doesnt make sense the 30s are all ult modifiers

[magic burrow]

I wish every staff had its own primary attack instead of three effectively reusing the same bolt. That bolt is useful on surge, and trauma too I guess, but on Void it would be more useful to have a different kind of attack.

[idle bay]

It's really good feat for Surge, when team takes too long to clear, or there are karkload of scabs spawned.

[floral solstice]

nah it doesn't, i just want to use both barrage and blaze lol

[still hearth]

What

You do know that Quicken is the CDR

Not the fast BB

Right?

Just so we're on the same page

[magic burrow]

expending warp charges so you can use your gimped shove slightly more often seems like a bad deal

[floral solstice]

i honestly couldnt tell if you guys were memeing about nerfing quicken lol

[idle bay]

Yes i'm useing as CDR for Wrath to drop peril quickly in intense situations

[magic burrow]

well if it works for you it works for you

[idle bay]

• Fixed bug with Quicken it now properly reduces Cooldown of Psyhokientic Warth by 1.25% per Warp Charge, not 12.5%

[clear heath]

they should nerf mind in motion next

its too powerful

[floral solstice]

[idle bay]

• Fixed bug with Essence Harvest not i replenishes 30 toughness flat over 5 seconds. It was 30% before

[magic burrow]

Quelling now forces you to stand still. Mind in motion lets you move at 50% speed while quelling.

[idle bay]

• Fixed bug with Mind in Motion now it builds up Corruption when quelling on the move.

[idle bay]

too soft.

[magic burrow]

-bug fix: Surge staff was able to stagger Ogryn enemies

[idle bay]

And along with previous fix that Quealing builds up Corruption- Mind in Motion provides tripple the Corruption if Quelling while moving

[idle bay]

Already mentioned

"- Fixed bug that Surge staff Charged attack stuns Mutants and Pox Hounds and .. stuns any foe. It's just damage now. And now it deals -99% to non armoured targets and -50% to armoured.
"

[feral topaz]

Some games hounds sure do act that way

[idle bay]

Just removing the stun is not enough "Fix"

What else needs fixing?

[magic burrow]

mutliple psykers in the same mission now have to share peril

[floral solstice]

i like how people here are already in the acceptance stage

[feral topaz]

Time to organize some happy accidents

[idle bay]

Hard to Implement -too complex for devs team. But i like your idea 🙂

[floral solstice]

that psykers are getting trolled hard by fs at this point

[idle bay]

We trolling them as well - not playing the game much and not paying. So we are even 🙂

[still hearth]

You need to play the game more

To occupy servers

[idle bay]

If less of us playing - the more lobbies will be filled with bots, that play barely better than revolver vets. And players pissed off by not be able to play with other players and quit game as well.

[feral topaz]

So this is a reverse OccupyDarktide

[idle bay]

While using Discord server bought by Fatshark...

And Bug reporting with passion.

And last part is easy.

1. Wait for next patch.
2. Read patchnotes
3. Double check what they fix and things related to fix
4. Find a few new bugs. Documnt, record videos and report.
5. Keep them working 🙂

[magic burrow]

I think the real issue is that Psykers are a swiss army knife in lower difficulty levels where damage doesn't mean anything because high DPS just means overkill, but in higher difficulties you become a walking CC stick. And the devs dont really consider the latter. They just look at a Psyker railgunning with the voidstrike staff at difficulty 2/3 and using their lock on ability to instakill most elites and wow that's so OP.

[idle bay]

And to be honest current servers can barely managed abysmal low players count...

[idle bay]

You assuming that they playtest.

[magic burrow]

It doesnt take a genius to realize releasing your game half-finished and then have your entire dev team going on an extended three week holiday was a bad call. But then them coming back to a dumpster fire in progress with some meme tier "we understand your frustration" message and announcing that you will be pausing all additional content while your devs work vewwy vewwy hard on adding the missing crafting features in the game is absolutely bonkers in terms of developers being out of touch with the playerbase.

[cloud heron]

Disagree. Void stops working in t5 because the chaff you leave scattered is more of a threat. Unless it's killing crushers, the concept of how it delivers damage just isn't good

Psyker does just fine at force swording heavy melees and horde clear

[magic burrow]

"oh and by the way here's a patch where we nerf the living crap out of basically everything"

[ornate hamlet]

honestly, i've seen much worse on other games
Rockstar was worse with Red Dead Redemption 2, they just disappeared for christmas for like a month - despite the game having FAR WORSE bugs than this, and hacker problems

also, look at games like Squad (Offworld Industries), if you want to see "out of touch with the playerbase" lol - they are doing microtransactions for emotes in a game that never even delivered what was promised when they were a greenlit fundingraising game 😄
(it was bought out by Tencent or something)

[idle bay]

Lets just remember that people who can make final decisions:

• approved current missions system
• approved current progression system
• approved current class/weapons balance
  That says volumes about their leadership positions 🙂

[ornate hamlet]

anthem was worse in this regard, and completely shut down servers lol
(It was one of the most advertised games ever made btw)

[idle bay]

After that you can't ever take Fatshark seriously

[cloud heron]

Also, despite what people say, psyker's BB works just fine at t5 killing a good variety of high threat targets. Gunners, trappers, bombers, and shotgunners all die in one BB

[magic burrow]

add onto that that every message that comes from FS seems to be the most corporate cleansed say as much as possible without actually saying anything nonsense Ive ever seen.

[idle bay]

Lets not unearth the dead 🙂

[ornate hamlet]

this is true for most devs nowadays anyway

i'm not white knighting for fatshark btw, just being realistic
i've seen far worse

[olive ember]

yeah still takes a 4 second charge up per gunner , while the vet can kill them in 1-2 shots

[ornate hamlet]

Outriders was also way worse than this , so was Borderlands 3

[cloud heron]

Yeah, it's not the thing you're best at, but it's still a strong tool. You can definitely be a swiss army knife on t5

[olive ember]

I'm just waiting for them to nerf every staff into the ground

"good CC from surge staff and warp charge gain on purge staff were unintended bugs that have been fixed"

"trauma knockdown no longer affects anything heavier than a rager, peril quelling on voidstrike was unintended and have been fixed"

[ornate hamlet]

i still enjoy psyker with axe+purg staff, it's a versatile build in general and can deal with most threats fairly easily if you are very good at knowing how to exploit your CC/staggers by quickly swapping to axe, quickly dispatch enemy, go back to staff work
and yes, sometimes BB is worth using but i personally only use it for certain things

[toxic walrus]

https://i.imgur.com/uvw8454.jpeg

Is this good at all for psyker

[olive ember]

imagine using a dueling sword

welp they nerfed my FS into the ground so i guess I gotta search for a good antax

[ornate hamlet]

i switched to axe when FS aoe pushback was nerfed from 5m to 3m

never looked back

[toxic walrus]

Which axe do you use?

[ornate hamlet]

personally, i prefer MK II
but MK II, MK V, and MK VIII are all excellent

[olive ember]

Technically speaking Antax is "meta" iirc on psyker because of its moveset

specifically its push attack is a horizontal cleave

[ornate hamlet]

depends on your preference,
MK II is the strongest axe statistically but it is buggy with weakspot hit detection - tho personally i don't care because it's speed makes up for this imo.
MK V is the crowd favorite, personally I find it slow, and the cleave to be useless.
MK VIII is similar to the MK V except it's statistically superior to the MK V, still has good weakspot hit detection like the MK V, but can swing faster and do more weakspot and crit damage due to having finesse instead of cleave stat. It does take some getting use to tho combo wise, it's best to start with 1 light attack followed by heavy attack spam.

[olive ember]

so with peril blocking all you do is spam push attack

i mean yeah with antax all you do is spam push attack

[ornate hamlet]

I use axe for single target DPS not AoE

[tall torrent]

should I?

[ornate hamlet]

It is a major DPS increase over all staves when used properly.
You should A) be very good at dodge timing
B) use purg staff with it for left mouse AoE CC, and exploit your ability to stagger things by getting quick axe hits in
(that's my playstyle personally)

[ornate hamlet]

damage>first target>finesse>penetration>mobility

thrust is pretty good too

i'd change +20% to maniacs, make it + unyielding instead personally

also, know what areas on enemies are unyielding and hit those areas

https://exputer.com/guides/warhammer-40k-darktide-unyielding-enemy/

i never personally tested all of the info in that guide, but i'm still pretty sure it's accurate

[summer prairie]

First target is probably more dps than the damage stat on every weapon

[ornate hamlet]

it is a modifier to the damage stat tho

[summer prairie]

Yes, but still

[ornate hamlet]

so damage stat matters more

[summer prairie]

No, because it's sucha big modifier

[ornate hamlet]

the lower the damage stat, the less the modifier applied to the damage stat will help

[summer prairie]

This is 60 DMG, 80 first target (rashad)

This is 80, 60

[still hearth]

To be fair that's not a massive difference most of the time.

[teal kite]

on a team with 4 psyekrs wow this is a nightmare LOL

[summer prairie]

Even 0, 80 is better than 80, 0

[ornate hamlet]

best psyker combo is 1 using purge, 1 using surg, and both of them stick to a shield ogryn like glue - inside his body
4th player can be vet sniping from somewhere behind them, or a zealot just helping kill everything that gets too close

3 or 4 psyker is just more psyker than you need, and less of what you could be benefiting from other classes

[teal kite]

ogryn-psyker combo is so much fun

[cloud heron]

stick to a shield ogryn in a 4 psyker comp?

You stickin to a bulwark?

[ornate hamlet]

no, i'm saying ideally you wouldn't have more than 2 psykers

and if you have 2, one should be using surg one should be using purg or trauma (purg better imo)

[teal kite]

4 psykers is like a bad luck draw

[ornate hamlet]

it can still go smoothly with 4 psyker but some enemies might be problematic

if 4 psyker, i'd say 2 surg 1 purg 1 trauma probably best combo

[teal kite]

ya

[ornate hamlet]

and at least 1 should be good melee player, they will have a lot of opportunity to axe things down (one who isn't surging)

but yeah ideally, it'd be a zealot doing it instead

and ideally, you'd have a shield ogryn for your psyker(s) to hide behind or vet quickly dispatching certain specialist/elites, like bursters

[vagrant cedar]

@ornate hamlet how easy can you clear damnation

[ornate hamlet]

i've run damnation enough to understand it well enough, but i don't normally run it

there's not really a reason to other than for fun

[vagrant cedar]

from this line i would guess that you'd struggle running it

[ornate hamlet]

why, because you think 4 psyker can't run damnation?

[vagrant cedar]

no

ofc they could

the distribution

idk , it's just a feeling

[olive ember]

I think the first damnation I beat was 3 vets and me (psyker)

[cloud heron]

I don't think it's wrong, but by the point of 4 psykers their melees are going to become a bit more important

[olive ember]

granted it was low intensity

[ornate hamlet]

trauma isn't complete trash anymore you realize eSky

[vagrant cedar]

is it not?

[winter shard]

wait, you guys can get damnation matches?

[cloud heron]

Like you need a force sword or something for crushers and a lot of BBs for ranged

[ornate hamlet]

i don't personally like it, but it's not nearly as bad as it used to be

[olive ember]

this was back in december

[valid lake]

woah i can use trauma now sick

[valid lake]

yeah its called LFG in discord

[cloud heron]

I spent a few days using trauma after the patch and it's alright. It's like a cross between surge and purge, where you can horde clear and CC elites. It's slightly too bad at both things though, imo

[ornate hamlet]

it really depends on the mission to be honest.
some missions have way more long range - dealing with ranged enemies at long range - than other missions

@vagrant cedar the bottom line is, damnation difficulty is not what makes missions hard, it's your teammates that can make it difficult for you

the difficulty is finding players who aren't trash

[vagrant cedar]

what does the Trauma staff do btw? i feel like i only used it once before i hit lv30

[cloud heron]

It's the circle aoe explosion

[vagrant cedar]

found it crap and never used it again

ohhh

[ornate hamlet]

trauma targetting sucks, and it used to generate way too much peril.
the targetting still sucks, but it's peril generation isn't nearly as bad as before

[winter shard]

the problem is, when i can play darktide, my region is dead, and matching up with people who don't play around apac makes the game unplayable

[cloud heron]

oceania?

[winter shard]

yep

sometimes there are some games

but it just doesn't work out

[ornate hamlet]

@vagrant cedar btw, trauma aoe hits weakspots a lot more than it should, for no explainable reason

which is why some people praise it

i personally still don't like it

[tall torrent]

Sorry for the late reply, was just wondering if it's worth grabbing for Melk coins just for fun, I have 6k anyways he never has stuff that I want

[idle bay]

Yes it worth it. There is a small chance (really small) for good weapons. And later with crafting finnaly on in a few months Melk's weapons are perfect Blessing donors for Blessing trasfer

[tall torrent]

I also have a 380 achylis or whatever it's spelled but I can't be bothered to farm materials just to brick yet another item

[idle bay]

You get trash weapon from him but with T4 Blessing you need , and then you put it on the good weapon you have.

Though few months of waiting to do that

[tall torrent]

When they said crafting in December they always meant 2023, we misunderstood

[tall torrent]

But guess I'll give it a go just for fun

[vagrant cedar]

well, if it actually useable now in damnation, kudos to fatshark for balancing it out

🙏

[tall torrent]

i mean, it's already 25% bricked with that perk

[idle bay]

To be honest he had at least 2 380 base stats weapons for me (useless though), and one insanely good Latrine Shovel for my Ogryn.

[tall torrent]

oh don't misunderstand me, he always has awesome lasguns...on my psyker

[idle bay]

Only on Psyker 🙂

Though there was ammo-waster recon lasgan with 380 base on Vet yesterday...

[tall torrent]

or this

[tall torrent]

maybe i'll try to brick this at hadron

[ornate hamlet]

that's probably quite good

but you're going to get run n gun lol

[tall torrent]

always, but never when it's blue so I could spare me the time to farm the materials to further upgrade

[fresh reef]

I really wish we had a mineral exchange of some kind

[frigid burrow]

What level 30 feat do you guys usually use if you're running surge staff

[fresh reef]

Sitting on 5k+ diamantine with mere hundreds of plasteel

[fresh reef]

Ascending Blaze

Quicken is useful for the stun, and BB is good for bursting down armored targets that your team have trouble dealing with

Surge already excels in both of those areas, so being able to wipe out a section of a trash horde is helpful

[frigid burrow]

Do the plain burn ticks do a lot with AB? Not sure I ever exactly melted a group with just the dot damage

Honestly I like using it cause it highlights the mobs that are still alive with the blue fire lol

[summer prairie]

You need 5 or 6 stacks, which is a pain to get with surge + AB

[fresh reef]

4 stacks is guaranteed to kill every unarmored melee trash mob

[summer prairie]

Not even close on damnation

[fresh reef]

And it'll leave poxwalkers with a sliver

[frigid burrow]

I never really tried damnation just having a good time on heresy

[fresh reef]

Tested on Damnation

[granite mauve]

not that big of a change

[fresh reef]

It kills unarmored trash, gets infested trash very low

Useless against shooters though

[granite mauve]

true damnation is when it's paired with High intensity

[fresh reef]

Damnation High Intesnity pug wipe simulator

[granite mauve]

i hope they add a cata equivalent

[fresh reef]

Never bought WoM. Is Cata really that much harder than Legend?

[granite mauve]

It's noticeable

Unlike heresy/damnation

[fresh reef]

I find the difference between Heresy and Damnation to be fairly noticeable

[granite mauve]

winds of magic is still garbage dlc

[summer prairie]

so by "every" you mean it kills groaners. It's not nothing but not great

[fresh reef]

Granted, that's because my randoms seem to drastically dip in quality on Damnation lol

[fresh reef]

Aye, but having poxwalkers at less than a third of health is still pretty significant

You could also just run 6 stacks and delete the horde outright, but that requires a tad more charge management

[cyan notch]

hordes are now mixed hordes and have more waves and the usual more hp more damage more specials

[fresh reef]

Sounds about right

What would you say is a good price point for WoM? Probably gonna buy it on sale

[summer prairie]

Like 5 bucks? You only buy it for the difficulty and a few weapons

[cyan notch]

idk tbh got it long ago and didnt think much about it

[summer prairie]

Oh it never goes that low

-50% then

[long wharf]

only if you're willing to wait 20 seconds for the trash to die

[granite mauve]

finished every missions on cata with all characters but never touched the fucking WoM gamemode thing weave whateverfuck

it's like on the highest part of the hub hidden because it's shite

[cyan notch]

main thing youll notice is how much more dense hordes are and stuff is harder to stagger and more specials

[lethal folio]

Blaze is good.

[bleak tusk]

not a bad emp gift, wish it wasnt on psyker though lol. welp gonna try anyway

[vale creek]

can i equip this one?

[manic needle]

Kind of an unfortunate stat spread for a 380.

[still hearth]

The instant 2 charges back as well.

[bleak tusk]

emp gift non meta run inc

[manic needle]

How'd this one turn out?

[tall torrent]

I'm still farming plasteel tbh 🥲

[manic needle]

tfw 3 hours of farming to get shafted by Hadron

[cyan notch]

scam

[tall torrent]

Nah I just only played one mission so far, had to do other stuff

Can't wait to get scammed by hadron tho

My bet is run n gun first blessing

[frigid marten]

And this is why is good against ranged stuff, you don’t want to face tank them aniway

[long wharf]

what's good, waiting 20 seconds for mobs to die?

[frigid marten]

I know i know that is patetic, but is what psyker can do. While veteran can F and facetank ranged

[long wharf]

if you aren't killing mobs in 5 seconds or less, then you aren't effectively killing them

the difference in TTK between 4 stacks of soulblaze and 6 is night and day

6 stacks wipes out a crowd quickly

4 stacks does not

[tall torrent]

this is how it's going so far

[west stream]

sword and pistol + warp battery + ascending blaze?

nice

Why pistol tho?

[long wharf]

I didn't see anything related to AB in that video clip

[west stream]

?

the gunners are dying from that after first use of special presumably

[long wharf]

I must have missed that, all I saw in the clip was the flamer killing things and the psyker running back

[lethal folio]

Pistol is fun.

[west stream]

reasonable

I kinda wanna get a nice quickdraw revolver

hitting headshots into hordes feels nice

[silver pagoda]

anyone know if critical damage does anything on purgatus?

[light quail]

YES
with the duelling sword too
no other way to do it

[long wharf]

crit damage affects the direct damage the purge staff does

I wouldn't invest in crit damage, though

[silver pagoda]

well I'm either rerolling crit damage or stamina +1

this is the best purgatus staff I've gotten so far, trying to max cloud radius and burn

[long wharf]

might as well roll off the +1 stamina, then

[split oxide]

My first Purg in over a month.. which one should I use?
"higher stats" or "spam like heck"

[near wyvern]

Right one and roll unarmoured into flak

[split oxide]

I have a ForceSword... will flak bonus really make it faster/easier?
(appreciate opinion .. I really have no idea)

[silver pagoda]

imo you should roll into crit chance instead

not sure why you'd want damage to flak on a purge staff

[near wyvern]

Half the enemies are flak in the game. Soulblaze also scales with perks. You do already good damage vs unarmoured so might wanna bump up that flak damage.

Crit chance also works

As a universal damage booster

The difference is around 1 extra stack per RMB cast, which given how the soulblaze scaling works is always beneficial

[split oxide]

SoulBlaze .. you mean 'Ascendant Blaze'?

[silver pagoda]

crit on a purge staff should help trigger soulblaze related feats easier too

well, ascendant blaze anyway

[near wyvern]

Just.. tried with a TLDR ok, go here section 5.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2917274959

A and yes before you come and scream at me, unarmoured multiplier is lower than flak BUT unarmoured enemies tend to have lower HP pool except dreg bruisers which are melee and get stunlocked by purgatus anyways. So there is nothing that would be a threat there.

[long wharf]

you mean roll unarmored to crit chance

[near wyvern]

Where as with flak you have the 3 of 2 ranged mobs, mauler, scab rager.

[near wyvern]

Yes, or flak. Choice is yours.

[silver pagoda]

"Soulblaze damage tics take the damage modifiers (perks and blessings) from the currently active weapon and buffs, not from the buffs at the time of application." - this seems to indicate it'd be better to have a melee weapon with the damage buffs and have crit chance on the staff

[long wharf]

100%

[near wyvern]

Can do but applying extra stacks are always worth more than switching to melee

[long wharf]

well, ideally you get to max staff stacks and then switch to melee

[near wyvern]

Assuming the wave ends in which case it doesn't matter

[long wharf]

problem there is without warp nexus, you're going to have a hard time getting to max staff stacks quickly enough for it to matter

[near wyvern]

The good part is that after 99 diamantine and 299 Plasteel roll is free so you can go and test what suits you best

[split oxide]

Still not sure
Soulblaze is Burn except by Psyker?

• like BB overflow from elitekills
• like purgatus tick damage?
• like ascendant blaze?

[west stream]

yes, all those cases where an enemy is burning with blue flames

[long wharf]

soulblaze, aka warpfire, is a Damage Over Time (DOT) effect

[west stream]

the actual stacking flames

not the direct damage from purg

[long wharf]

"BB overflow from elite kills" is Wrack and Ruin, and isn't worth taking

[near wyvern]

Soulblaze is the blue fire yes. Comes out of some feats (absolute garbage), AB (actually useful especially at 6 charges), your Purgatus fire stick as well as Blazing Spirit blessing (FS, Void, Trauma, absolute garbage at the current iteration)

[split oxide]

but once purg sets some of them alight, what i'm seeing in the residual burn is soulblaze?

[west stream]

Ye, there´s better stuff in that column

yes

based on its stats purg adds a stack of soulblaze every so often

[split oxide]

Cool.. I'll read the full doc later.. gonna try out the new staff... as soon as I refine.. flak or crit-chance?

[near wyvern]

Purgatus staff has two components. You have direct damage and an application of a stack of soulblaze. You get 1 stack on enemy per hit, and 2 on crits.

[long wharf]

purge adds a stack of soulblaze every time the spawned purge projectile hits a valid target

the rate at which those projectiles are spawned is determined by the Burn modifier

[split oxide]

1stack, crit-2stack, got it

[long wharf]

which is independent from the visible particle effect

the double stack on crit is why crit chance is priority #1 for blessings and perks on purge

[west stream]

Ascendant blaze gives as many stacks as you have warp charges linearly_

?

[near wyvern]

1 stack lasts around 8 seconds, after that it starts to wear of 1 stack at a time per each tick which has an interval of 0.75 seconds. Applying a new stack of soulblaze will fully refresh the duration unless you are at the weapons limit

[near wyvern]

1, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 stacks for consuming 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 charges. Always consumes all you have.

[split oxide]

flak or crit-chance? (to replace unarmored)

[near wyvern]

Yeah warp nexus is best you can get on purge

[long wharf]

I'd go with crit chance

[near wyvern]

It's up to you, if you want a universal boost go crit chance

[still hearth]

Crit is hot but flak is cool

[west stream]

I wish one day we shall be able to change blessings

[near wyvern]

If maulers need to be melted faster go flak

[still hearth]

It'll probably not be a noticeable difference either way

[west stream]

Run and gun haunts me

[near wyvern]

But you can always change

[still hearth]

Purge and Flamer both suffer from success

They're just so good without boosts

[long wharf]

having a zealot with a flamer on the team makes the purge psyker feel insufficient

[west stream]

Purgatus is also only staff that has a direct synergy with a feat imo

[near wyvern]

Oh and @split oxide just remember your LMB has stronger stagger than your RMB. So if your allies are about to get hit by a pack of ragers, do them a favour and spray some LMB on them before you start RMB spam

[west stream]

in the form of ascendant

[still hearth]

Good flamer Zealots literally not using it 90% of the time so they actually have fun

[west stream]

I have been trying pistol and sword psyker and it is fun tho

[split oxide]

yup.. I use stagger a lot (esp lately)

[still hearth]

Did they fix the LMB not spreading when you move your mouse yet

[near wyvern]

Yes and no. Void has now one too with transfer peril and Quietitude but that's more related to the staff and the blessing

[still hearth]

Or do I have to assume that's another fun "intended" feature

[near wyvern]

Don't think so, haven't tested

[west stream]

fair

[still hearth]

Well all staffs work off the bonus damage feat tbf

[near wyvern]

PW?

[still hearth]

Psyker Synergies, what are those

[near wyvern]

You want Inner tranq with purge

[still hearth]

Whichever gives warp damage, right?

[near wyvern]

Direct damage is not worth buffing

When you can just keep spraying

[long wharf]

with purge, your job is to light everything with warpfire

[still hearth]

Doesn't Soulblaze count as a warp attack

[near wyvern]

No

[still hearth]

Fatshark did it again

[split oxide]

Right I'm off to try the new burn-stat.
Thanks all.

[near wyvern]

For Trauma you definitely want to pick up PW to hit some insta gib breakpoints on pox walkers. For void it depends what you are after, for surge you should get inner tranq because you have a CC stick so do more CC.

[silver pagoda]

What's the good axe? Atrox 2?

[long wharf]

I guess it's time to actually test this trauma staff out, then

[cyan portal]

I'm surprised peril resistance is so valued on purga. If you kill enough things your 10% chance procs so often that you can safely channel max peril secondaries most of the time, with ult to pull you through when you get unlucky.

[quasi ivy]

lads, on lvl 25 which feat do you use?

[still hearth]

The best one

Usually Rising Conviction though

Never Martyrdom

Except when I do

Ops wrong chat

I'm tieed

The one that gives more charges is usually nice. BB proc is cool too

The flames with AB can be good

[cyan portal]

Depends on difficulty/how many things you're fighting.

[quasi ivy]

going to try kinetic flayer, i am just leveling

[cyan portal]

on hi damn I take wb because ab by itself is enough to keep you at 6 stack wc when you need them. On lower difficulties with less fuel for your fire you'll probably need kf to keep stacks up.

[humble saffron]

on a purge staff with +unarmoured and +unyielding perks, which would be better to switch for +crit? I'd heard there's some love for +unyielding on purge but I haven't gotten the run down on it.

[silver pagoda]

I'd keep unarmored just because it affects a lot more enemies

unyielding enemies tend to have large health pools, so I don't think soulblaze is that great against them, but that's just my feeling on it

[humble saffron]

I had the same thought, but I'd heard both +flak and +unyielding were popular choices to keep. Flak makes sense, but unfortunately I got Fatsharked on this one.

[long wharf]

jesus fucking christ, just finished a mission with that trauma staff

hated every second of it

the aiming is cancer

[still hearth]

The opposite actually

The more HP the more the DoT will be effective

[supple skiff]

Yeah, it would take a lot of number buffs to make me want to use trauma with how it operates now

[still hearth]

The scaling of it makes weaker enemies die insanely fast before the value matters

[supple skiff]

Like 2 shorting bulwarks level damage

[still hearth]

You do minimal damage at first and then it jumps rapidly to "oh the enemy is dead suddenly"

And breakpoints just don't feel very vital for soulblaze

The one thing that is is that with +25% infested you'll oneshot poxwalkers with a 5 stack shout

[cloud heron]

Yeah it's deceptively close range

[still hearth]

I enjoy it

It's a challenge

[lethal plover]

just don't use it like voidstrike

[supple skiff]

Leave the self flagellation to the zealots

[lethal plover]

it's for close quarter boom boom, not far away pop pop

[hollow portal]

Im trying to listen to what the "thing" that speaks when you get high peril is saying. I just heard "....little one" with the ... being what I couldnt understand

[still hearth]

Hello, little one

[supple skiff]

All from death and decay

[lethal plover]

it's tzeentch or one of his demons most likely

[supple skiff]

Sounds pretty nurgle to me

[cloud heron]

Is this tied to a specific voice line or am I incredibly unobservant?

i've heard other people mention it

[lethal plover]

magic and psykering would be tzeentch's domain

[hollow portal]

Slaanesh, Nurgle, and even Khorne have psykers too

[supple skiff]

Al the gods have psykers save for khorne

Unless you count his summoners

[leaden thunder]

khorne still has a few

[hollow portal]

Khorne has them. Gore Mages

[leaden thunder]

most are buffers rather then blasters

[supple skiff]

Er sorcerers I suppose

Tf is a gore mage

Sounds neat

[lethal plover]

yes
but human psykers are devoted to magic and knowledge, and that makes them prime targets for tzeentch

[leaden thunder]

tbh it's probably just residual echos from the area so thats why it's nurgly sounding

[hollow portal]

To clear up a little confusion at the start:
Khorne doesnt mind psykers. Those who use their own abilities.

Khorne hates sorcerers, mortals who make pacts with daemons to use the daemons powers as their own

[hollow portal]

Psykers arent devoted to knowlege. Its inherit traits

[cloud heron]

honestly, khorne is so cringe

dude needs to get over himself

[supple skiff]

So a biomancer juicing themselves up and going to town with a chain axe is fair game then

[leaden thunder]

ye

[hollow portal]

As for the daemon. One thing I "deff" hear is it mentioning "Life and decay"

That strikes as Nurgle

[leaden thunder]

considering that you encounter deamons of nurgle

and the area you are in has heavy nurgle corruption

[lethal plover]

any recording of life and decay

[supple skiff]

Unless it is tzeentch on some convoluted end around plan posing as nurgle

[steel flame]

Man after playing with the trauma staff for a couple days in damnation. I gotta say. Its really damn good

[hollow portal]

Eh I doubt its Tzeentch

[lethal plover]

there is no evidence either way

[supple skiff]

Granted I do too

[leaden thunder]

it's probably not one of the actual chaos gods, prolly just a daemon anyway

[lethal plover]

the question is whose demon

[leaden thunder]

again considering that we are in a heavy nurgle corrupted area

it's probably nurgle

[hollow portal]

I like to think its a Slaaneshi daemon. hence why the crazy Psyker calls it his "beloved", and also when in peril, the tendrils are purple/pink

[lethal plover]

beloved

[hollow portal]

probably

[lethal plover]

that's a possibility with beloved

[leaden thunder]

like if it's actually a daemon and not just warp whispers it's a nurgle daemon

anything else woulda got pushed out by all the corruption

[hollow portal]

tbh maybe, maybe not. We have the most evidence its a nurgle daemon. "Life and decay" quote.

but could be Slaanesh, Tzeentch, or otherwise. Like how the Zealot is corrupted by Khorne

[steel flame]

Well he talks about emperor creations as stuff created by his beloved, so I'm not sure if that checks out

[leaden thunder]

I think only the irish zealot is

as they are the only ones with that line

good chance it's just warp whispers though

lotsa people dying

[lethal plover]

the chaos gods are not beyond interfering with each other
as you say Khorne and the zealot

[leaden thunder]

lotsa pain

the zealot was probably already like that

hell I think one of the vet's might have a little khorne in him

mentioned something about dreaming of a daemon on a mountain of skulls or something

as a "hypothetical"

[cloud heron]

to be fair, the imperium makes radios out of skulls

necklaces out of skulls

everything's skulls there too

[leaden thunder]

the daemon part is the important part

[steel flame]

So does mechanicus