psyker-class

[long wharf]

well, okay then

I can't wait to see all the other mechanics they've brought over from VT2.

Wait.

[fossil snow]

Does brain burst feel slower to anyone else lately?

[fresh reef]

How we feel about new Deflection?

[north cradle]

Aligned Equinox Mk III Trauma Force Staff and Equinox Mk IV Voidstrike Force Staff Peril costs to be more in line with each other.

Fuck

[clear heath]

death

[magic burrow]

literally why tier

[fossil snow]

Trauma feels a fair bit nicer

[upper harbor]

you can cast around corners, good dmg, best stagger, good peril management (thank god, that killed it), fills it's role nicely

[uneven drift]

Thing is, at first it was like: choose your melee weapon, come to downed person, hold block, start revive. Then they did it automatic thing.

[fresh reef]

Figured. Best in slot for that tier is Shield now, I'm guessing?

[clear heath]

but weapons still block while ressing, and it still uses your melee wep's stamina to block

[orchid nest]

looks like soulblaze kills still stack slaughterer for you at least

[north cradle]

Psykers are the most oppressed race

[long wharf]

I guess they just broke Deflector blessing, then

[uneven drift]

Psyker immeasurably complex.

[north cradle]

Stamina recharges when blocking, why shouldn't Peril

[long wharf]

go go gadget code regression due to shitty repo management

[still hearth]

You actually have more stamina than weapon stam while ressing

[uneven drift]

Either it was bug that deflector were working on revive or yes, they broke it. Need a bug report and see what they tell.

[fresh reef]

Still gives plenty more effective stamina for combat knife, dueling sword, etc

There's actually a reason to use +stamina curios now

[clear heath]

They should've just nerfed the block eff of peril block if they wanted to nerf it

The way they nerfed it actually makes it detrimental to take the feat sometimes

[still hearth]

I'm pretty sure they just removed all blessings working if you don't have the weapon active

[clear heath]

occasionally worse than having an unselected feat

[orchid nest]

slaughterer buffing the stagger for fs with the fix is pretty funny with the push, sends em on their ass

[still hearth]

It always did that for me.

[magic burrow]

dont worry, they'll fix it next patch by making it so kinetic deflector has a 5% chance to not give peril

[still hearth]

Unless you mean normal push and not the push attack

[orchid nest]

the regular push, not the push attack

[still hearth]

Oh dats

Actually nasty

[orchid nest]

aoe sending them flying lmao

[lethal folio]

Slaughterer force sword has very good horde clear now.

[summer prairie]

what was changed?

[orchid nest]

yeah it actually does

[lethal folio]

Power boosts now boost cleave.

[compact cargo]

Rip psyker

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[long wharf]

this is a bit much

[compact cargo]

not yet

[safe pendant]

Where's our free Aquilas?

[compact cargo]

no

[fresh reef]

were you guys genuinely using KD only because of the fact you can mindlessly tank a DH?

[clear heath]

Am i going crazy or does BB do more damage to bulwarks now?

was it always 1100?

[wanton cove]

-goes into general chat for 3 seconds- rough waters over there as usual

[safe pendant]

I've only tanked DH as Psyker once and that wasn't planned

[fresh reef]

general chat is where incomparable minds go to die

[orchid nest]

yeah self buff with the coherency aura

I mean

it always did. responded to the wrong damn one

[magic burrow]

KD is now just one more psyker feat that needs a thorough redesign

[bleak tulip]

trauma actually puts fatties on their asses now

[fresh reef]

Shield still reduces melee toughness damage right?

[bleak tulip]

bulwarks too, (not pictured)

[fresh reef]

it always did that lol

[orchid nest]

do you have relevant perks for them? I bet the perks just count as power and now also contribute to the stagger for them

[bleak tulip]

idk

[safe pendant]

So the shotgunners stagger wasn't really adjusted, just their immunity duration?

[bleak tulip]

I didnt really put much effort into it because its a trauma

[long wharf]

the stagger animations got adjusted

[orchid nest]

hmmm. yeah idk maybe it did, I never messed with it much either

[long wharf]

and immunity duration

[bleak tulip]

I dont recall it pushing them over though

[light quail]

dear fatshark
pls
sincerely: that one gunpsyker

[bleak tulip]

it did stagger em but not that much I think?

[long wharf]

no, it should proc on BB hit, not BB kill

[light quail]

wrack and ruin with a lasgun would slap

[fresh reef]

it always did. can confirm as a trauma shill

[orchid nest]

I don't remember the min charges sending them flying but I could be wrong

[summer prairie]

warp nexus thresholds don't appear fixed

[clear heath]

either this or make it any target and not just elites

or buff the range and damage

[empty obsidian]

yea, thought it had real aoe potentional with brain burst, however the dot applied deals rather minor dmg

[clear heath]

or really do anything
the feat has like 10 holes in it

[light quail]

matter of fact, wouldn't it be cool to have psyker lasguns roll with soulfire instead of regular fire?

[north cradle]

I did it to close the distance between me and shooters through cover

[fresh reef]

didn't see it mentioned, but they seem to have also improved the damage spread on Trauma

[still hearth]

Wreck and Ruin should apply 6 stacks

So it actually kills things

[light quail]

lmao

i'd agree

or have soulfire decay slower than normal fire

[north cradle]

Or apply on Brain Bursts on all targets

[still hearth]

It does

[bleak tulip]

they could just make stacks not be so dogshit so you wouldnt need like 6 to kill anything instead

[north cradle]

Like spawning a weak fire grenade on top of an enemy horde

[still hearth]

Just that it does less damage too so 2 stacks is nothing

[light quail]

oh :(

[clear heath]

there's like a million ways to buff wrack and ruin cause it sucks at everything
damage, range, activation criteria

[still hearth]

Even on flamer you need like 4 stacks to kill hordies

[long wharf]

flamer can kill things with the direct attack as well

[solar loom]

So did they ruin the Voidstrike staff?

[long wharf]

nope

[bleak tulip]

I honestly cant really tell a difference

[solar loom]

Ah, that's good

[bleak tulip]

doesnt seem to generate more peril really

[long wharf]

no changes to void except for Transfer Peril now working with quietude

they fixed trauma peril gain

[solar loom]

Then I guess Trauma got a big buff

[north cradle]

I think the Peril Resistance feat should be removed and replaced with a Brain Burst AoE stagger, and Wrack and Ruin can proc on any Brain Burst kill

[bleak tulip]

Aligned Equinox Mk III Trauma Force Staff and Equinox Mk IV Voidstrike Force Staff Peril costs to be more in line with each other.
I mean this reads like they changed something about void, but it seems like they didnt

[magic burrow]

you do realize two stacks of soulblaze dont even do enough damage to kill a basic poxwalker on the lowest game difficulty, right?

[cyan notch]

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/deflector-blessing-does-not-block-bullets-while-reviving-after-1-0-22-anymore/73978
well it got tagged as acknowledged at least so theres some hope

[fresh reef]

will post vid in a second after it compresses@long wharf @solar loom
they also buffed Trauma's damage spread

[solar loom]

Soulblaze from crits is a joke.

[fresh reef]

basically everything inside the white circle takes full damage

[bleak tulip]

https://streamable.com/ftozu4

heres a video I made quick

[clear heath]

doesn't really look like they changed voidstrike peril cost at all. I remember it being around 5 before anyways
Maybe it costs more to charge now? idk

[bleak tulip]

to give you an idea

[north cradle]

Stacking Soulblaze would at least feed Ascendant Blaze, but the activation requirement makes it so not worth it

[supple skiff]

did some testing

[solar loom]

Too bad trauma is awkward as hell to use and doesn't have the range to be proper artillery, no matter how damaging it is.

[supple skiff]

slaughterer now only effects the weapon the blessing is on

[fresh reef]

I'm pretty sure that note just meant they were buffing Trauma to be more inline with Void, not the other way around

[supple skiff]

so we lost slaughterer empowered BB too

[bleak tulip]

yes thats what the patch notes say

[bleak tulip]

you figured it out

[fresh reef]

finally getting closer to a real conflag staff

[supple skiff]

my favourite weapon is a force sword with slaughterer and deflector and both got nerfed lol

[orchid nest]

yeah seems so. other stuff can still proc the stacks for you though when swapping

[long wharf]

slaughterer wasn't nerfed, it was fixed

all the blessings that didn't check for active weapon were fixed (at least according to the patch notes)

[supple skiff]

arugable

[noble mason]

whats going on with deflector?

[clear heath]

I'm honestly surprised they went through the trouble to fix all the blessings

[rocky cedar]

Slaughterer was buffed

[safe pendant]

That's about what I was hoping for with Trauma. Adding 15% peril to the explosion made it so bad

[solar loom]

Deflector got nerfed? Or just the peril regen while blocking?

[supple skiff]

nothing in the blessing mentions that it is item specific

[long wharf]

it's only "arguable" if you feel like arguing

[cyan notch]

notice that first guy on the left in the circle taking 28 damage

[long wharf]

it's fact

[supple skiff]

LOL

[orchid nest]

I mean slaughterer was buffed for its own melee use with the cleave and stagger change

at least

[supple skiff]

alright

[bleak tulip]

wait what the fuck was meant to be nerfed about slaughterer

[long wharf]

this, trauma should be dealing full damage to everything in the circle

get rid of the "primary target" bullshit, it's an AoE

same with surge, get rid of primary target difference, make all enemies hit take full damage

[fresh reef]

yes, because he wasn't fully in the circle

[orchid nest]

still don't have a slaughterer/deflector.. guess that doesn't matter atm though

[rocky cedar]

It can already kill like 10 enemies a cast, I'm not sure it needs to be able to kill 30+

Like what

[cyan notch]

i guess but still kinda silly he has half his body in it

[solar loom]

Dude is playing 3rd edition warhammer where you roll to see if you're hit if the AoE only covers half of you.

[rocky cedar]

The epicentre is smaller than the circle icon

Y'all know that right?

[long wharf]

dispersing live enemies is objectively bad

[rocky cedar]

The circle icon does seem to change with blast radius roll either

[bleak tulip]

I was under the impression it was like half the circle

[long wharf]

it's a detriment to the team

[foggy whale]

trauma actually useable now, nice

[solar loom]

Yea, we need an implosion staff that piles them up, not a staff that scatters them and makes them harder to kill.

[rocky cedar]

Knocking a group of Ragers on their face while deleting 10 enemies from a horde is by no means bad for anyone

[tropic lagoon]

Anyone played around with the toughness regeneration speed curio now that it's been patched?

[rocky cedar]

But I really don't want to argue about trauma frankly

[cyan notch]

so a weapon that has full damage thats smaller than the displayed circle but has 25 damage to enemies 10m away from the circle

so can i ask wtf the point of the circle is

[idle bay]

Store extention for browser no longer shows store...

[clear heath]

I'm curios about how that toughness regen curio perk stacks with ogryn's feat now

[rocky cedar]

It's not good UI, I wouldn't argue otherwise lol

[long wharf]

has to be fixed

plugin author is aware

[clear heath]

please do not ask them to fix psyker staff visuals
next patch they will blind you

[manic needle]

"Fixed Issue where the ‘Quietitude’ Feat did not work with the ‘Transfer Peril’ Blessing."

Well thats a win at least

[cyan notch]

for people with that blessing

[long wharf]

next patch : All psyker staves now white out the entire screen to be lore accurate

[cyan notch]

[clear heath]

next patch: selecting psyker now sends a fatshark employee to go over to your house and give you a black eye

[manic needle]

Are the changes that bad?

[clear heath]

well, it's a huge nerf to kinetic deflection and force sword deflector

so that sucks

[cyan notch]

theres definitely good changes like bb through railings and trauma and idk what else

[magic burrow]

fatshark employee enjoying his fifteenth coffee break of the day when suddenly alarms start blaring and a panic breaks out in the office because someone spotted a psyker in the mourningstar hub zone

[clear heath]

our unique survivability tools nerfed to the ground
now we're legit just glass

[idle bay]

dried rice paper not glass even

[clear heath]

true, glass is at least resistant to scratches

a scratch would kill us

[idle bay]

It's fitting that unique class feature with peril block was a bug

[jagged badger]

Siblings, what is this and why do I want it?

[idle bay]

Now i need to do my steam review even more negative after this nerf

[ruby meadow]

That damage tho

[somber plume]

thats a good placeholder till you roll one with perfect damage

[long wharf]

well that's just not fair

[somber plume]

itll get your muscle memory down

[long wharf]

I wouldn't change any reviews just yet

this patch is the first step in the right direction

but it's only a step

[somber plume]

where this patch, forums?

[idle bay]

Psyker nerf -are not step in right direction

[long wharf]

fixing bugs is expected, there's so much broken and missing that the bugs are a drop in the bucket

[clear heath]

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/patch-notes-1-0-22/73946/44

[somber plume]

i read a patch from today but it was just like, 10 pages of "fixed this fixed that"

i didnt see any balance updates, ty

[jagged badger]

My current alternative is this one

Not worth swapping?

[fresh reef]

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1361210/view/3648513424275320496

[idle bay]

Nerfing most crippled class in tehy game is most shitheaded descision fatshark ever made

Fuck them sideways for that

[long wharf]

ffs, you could also check #📢news-bulletin

[ruby meadow]

Surge Staff. Hide behind allies and perma stun

[long wharf]

so, my bug report about Kinetic Overload was acknowledged

[somber plume]

yo did hedge get fired lmao

who the fuck is catfish

[ruby meadow]

Surge deletes anything in flak, murders ragers, and kills crushers/bulwarks well

[cyan notch]

well

probably doesnt delete crushers

[somber plume]

i was using trauma force before the buff

it was fun

if you want to kill stab in head

[ruby meadow]

Being able to stop a dog, mutant, and poxbursters in their tracks is awesome

[somber plume]

lmao

[ruby meadow]

Doesn't delete but kills them fairly easily

[fluid pendant]

Did voidstaff get a damage buff? Patch notes mention damage wasn’t calculating correctly for direct+explosion weapons.

[long wharf]

the patch notes mentioned UI calculations

[ruby meadow]

Have a horde clear melee weapon with it. Devils claws, chainsword, or brutal momentum axe

[clear heath]

yeah that was really bad back then
It has been fixed for a while tho

[cyan notch]

[clear heath]

I remember actually just looking away from the screen and playing from my peripheral vision when it happened

[fresh reef]

Mk2/4 dueling swords also work

[clear heath]

became a zealot main during that patch

[ruby meadow]

I tend to forget the dueling swords, the ones with Rending slap

[long wharf]

I stopped playing surge entirely during that time

it made me sad

[clear heath]

I played like 3 games and just decided to stop playing psyker when it happened

[cyan notch]

i used void and guns lmao

[clear heath]

oh these just always work from any direction now
that's pretty nice

[long wharf]

I worked on my Vet a lot during that time

[manic needle]

So did they only fix Warp Flurry on Trauma staffs, or is that a misquote?

[clear heath]

Before you had to actually be behind the bulwark, regardless of where the stun grenade was

[daring nexus]

Holy shit the trauma staff is so good now

[long wharf]

apparently not a misquote

[manic needle]

ok now THIS is epic

[clear heath]

I guess this is another patch where i main zealot

[manic needle]

Fixed Warp Flurry for the least used staff only

[clear heath]

Did they actually not fix it for surge?

[summer prairie]

no

[daring nexus]

I tested it on void and it didn’t work

[summer prairie]

and it doesn't really work for void either, at least as intended

[long wharf]

at least I can still zoom around as a zealot with a knife, though not being able to use crucian roulette is going to seriously hurt dps

means it's time to find a good eviscerator

[clear heath]

I stopped running crucian anyways
crit weapons still work fine without it

Been running crit tac axe with brauto

[summer prairie]

do warp charges meaningfully help with cleave now

[light quail]

honestly didn't

thank you, I shall now have another look at that slot

fuck

[long wharf]

did warp charges ever boost power?

[summer prairie]

oh right, probably not

[clear heath]

pretty sure they just say damage

[summer prairie]

if the wording is trusted

[crude talon]

Someone did the mining for all the feats

[clear heath]

you think the in-game text would be wrong in darktide? that's crazy

[crude talon]

To show what they actually do

I don’t remember warp charges not working like they say but I could be wrong

[cyan notch]

18% cleave

shouldnt be too significant anyway

assuming its 1:1 with power

[fresh reef]

so as far as I can tell, AB Purg still best build?

[crude talon]

My brain isn’t working today, what’s AB?

[arctic rampart]

It would appear to be still be the least bad build, yeah.

[crude talon]

Oh

Nvm

[bleak tulip]

thats certainly a take

[light quail]

I run devil claw laspistol/trauma

[crude talon]

Based

[light quail]

gunpsyker is doable but tricky

[crude talon]

Only gigachads use builds like that

[light quail]

laspistol works best from my experience
absolutely wrecks stuff with headshots

[lament topaz]

On Vet when I had the game installed, I ran Shotgun/Knife.

[crude talon]

“When I had the game installed” lol

[light quail]

I would love some kind of "headshots have a 20% chance to trigger BB" talent for guns

[lament topaz]

I uninstalled it last night.

[crude talon]

That would be cool

[lucid terrace]

[light quail]

ik we have kinetic flayer but it's so damn long on cooldown

5s cooldown, 20% headshot chance on ranged for BB, ez

[lament topaz]

Best moment I had with this game was when I chained 4 dodges in a row as Zealot.

[crude talon]

Maybe one day we will have something that makes guns useful on psyker

[lament topaz]

Sadly, Black Ops 3 has stolen me away, on top of only having about a half hour of play time a day on DT.

[crude talon]

Black ops 3? Wtf is it 2015?

[lament topaz]

What can I say, it was the last good Black Ops.

[crude talon]

I kinda liked 4

[lament topaz]

I saw 4's gameplay, it seemed alright.

But I never actually played it.

[crude talon]

This new MW is trash tho

[lament topaz]

Fun fact, due to changes Steam did to DLC and such during the May 16th update, you have to have a DLC unlocker to play BO3 without lag.

The unlocker just keeps Steam/BO3 from pinging the DLCs you do and don't own while trying to load them or something, I dunno.

[crude talon]

Weird

[lament topaz]

It's painful to say the least, but worth it.

It also doesn't let you play on or get the DLCs you're missing for free.

Game kicks you out all the same.

Activision and Steam both know about this issue and haven't fixed it since around Pre-September of last year.

[shut maple]

Has anyone noticed that when you are gaining peril and being suppressed by gunfire that the border flickers right now? or is that just me?

[rapid flicker]

eh

[sudden siren]

KEK

[lament topaz]

I really need more people to play BO3 with.

Cause I've got the random I met last night that taught me how to do some stuff.

That's it.

[split oxide]

Ogryn throw Psyker at horde if he goes boom.

[manic needle]

So, how does in-mission Voidstrike use feel after the changes?

I ran it through the meatgrinder and the peril cost didnt seem that bad

[steel flame]

ITS OVER LADS! No more infinite peril block

Fixed issue where ‘Kinetic Deflection’ did not pause passive quelling, resulting in being able to tank some enemies indefinitely.

[pale basalt]

I think they must have tuned down the impact can any confirm? It was kinda hard to manage

[strong fog]

Kinetic deflector Blessing doesnt work any more, when reviving someone

[steel flame]

Also blazing spirit might be good now?

Fixed issue with ‘Blazing Spirit’ blessing on Equinox Mk III Trauma Force Staff and Equinox Mk IV Voidstrike Force Staff that only applied warpfire to directly hit enemies on crit and not enemies hit by an explosion.

[rocky cedar]

Yes it's been acknowledged as a bug on the forums

[rocky cedar]

Gonna be hard to get decent crit chance for them now you can't shred swap though

[white badger]

I guess I shouldn't be surprised that the psyker changes are mostly nerfs. Of course they are.

[pale basalt]

No kidding

[steel flame]

What are you talkin about?

[dreamy ember]

Anyone got any info on "Fixed issue where the 'Toughness Regeneration Speed' Curio only gave a bonus to the Toughness Regeneration delay of Coherency."

Only did 1 run on psyker with a 15% toughness regen speed, felt good but I mostly play zealot with momentum so I could be wrong.

[clear heath]

psyker was too op guys

[rocky cedar]

As a trauma enjoyer this patch is still probably a net positive for me

[steel flame]

Most of them are buffs.......

[rocky cedar]

I saw in Ogryn chat that it increases rate of coherency regen as well as reducing the delay

So honestly probably quite a good perk now

[clear heath]

Sounds pretty nice on ogryn

[rocky cedar]

I doubt it interacts with tier 1 feats still

[white badger]

Kinetic Deflection got nerfed. It's the one great feat we had

I'm sure all 9 trauma staff users are happy, tho

[steel flame]

Purge staff even better now that's ascendent blaze should work now and you can swap during charge attack. Force sword can be charged during blocking now.trauma staff isn't totally useless now....

[white badger]

Ascendent Blaze already worked almost every time

[clear heath]

Kinetic deflection got nerfed so hard that it might be detrimental to take it

[dreamy ember]

to me it felt like the toughness recharge was through the roof when combined with quelling for toughness

[fallen lily]

Traumabros keep winning!

[steel flame]

And you won't have block break with peril block if your stamina is zero

[rocky cedar]

Has anyone worked out how long the peril decay pause actually is when you block an attack?

[white badger]

Yeah, our ability to surf hordes easily in melee got wrecked

Zazy, that never actually happened

[steel flame]

Yes. Yes it did

[white badger]

Not to me

[rocky cedar]

Lol yes it very much did

[steel flame]

All the time with peril block on fs with deflector

It sucked ass

[summer prairie]

it's probably the same delay as when you use peril

[white badger]

Well, I rarely use force sword

[steel flame]

Block would break for no reason constantly

[white badger]

It never happens with axe/ knife

[clear heath]

Ascendant blaze worked most of the time anyways. It only didn't work on the off chance you killed with the direct damage, which was like barely any damage to begin with
Force sword charging from block is just a decent QoL change. You could always just let go of block to charge it anyways. Now it just cancels the block for you, saving you a bit of effort
nice for the 3 people that play trauma i guess

[summer prairie]

presumably it was buffed so people would use it

not to make the current users feel better about their choices

[devout axle]

Good news, lads. The toilet bowl doesn't clip through your head anymore.

[clear heath]

yeah that's nice, but not worth losing passive quell for it imo

[molten atlas]

I saw a youtube video with a Psyker infinite guard a demon host by using duelling sword with kinetic deflection.
Well, i tried that on a plague Ogryn and I died. Somehow I'm still taking damage even through a successful block.
So what enemies can or can't be infinite block with Psyker?

[white badger]

The passive quell was fantastic with non-force weapons

[summer prairie]

I mostly only active quell, except obviously when disengaging, but blocking did feel a bit awkward, as if something wasn't working right

[white badger]

Lunar, Plague Ogryns just do too much damage, especially with the overhead. Have to dodge them.

[light quail]

it got patched

[molten atlas]

Oh

[summer prairie]

but I don't use FS, guess it might be a bigger hit for it

[clear heath]

At this point i might prefer having a deselected feat than having kinetic deflector
Getting my passive quell halted just to block a hit isn't worth it

I'd rather just block with stam

[white badger]

Syllo.. the best part of using non FS weapons is that passive quell is almost as fast as active quell with a staff/ FS. And you never use that?

[steel flame]

I would have many instances where popping 4 stack ab wouldny generate any stacks at all even when setting like 50 enemies on fire at once. It seemed to happen intermittently in missions. Sometimes you would be generating all the stacks and sometimes I could go an entire swarm without a single stack. It was very clear something wasn't right and I'm glad it's fixed now

[white badger]

Or that was the best thing

[devout axle]

You are just ... objectively wrong.

[white badger]

He's not

[idle bay]

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/psykers-were-hit-by-a-massive-nerf-in-1-0-22-fatshark-please-unfix-kinetic-deflection-fix/73993

[summer prairie]

Snit: when I'm using my staff, active quelling feels more efficient. Passive quell is nice when I'm not in melee

[white badger]

Well, it means you take another feat

[summer prairie]

and e.g. running to cover

[white badger]

Syllo, before today, you could switch to melee and quell about as fast as active quelling

[idle bay]

That means fatshark will not get more money from me unles they massively buff psykers

[summer prairie]

Not as fast and didn't feel forth it

active quelling takes no time at all

[white badger]

It was almost as fast 🙂

[steel flame]

You.....can....still....do that

[summer prairie]

Sure, I'm just saying the peril block passive quell nerf only affects my playstyle when I'm forced to block

like a whole horde

[safe pendant]

Why are you blocking an entire horde?

[steel flame]

This

[white badger]

Not if you need to block. The cool thing was, you could build up peril on staff, then block-push melee until you cooled down, repeat. Not with force sword, tho

Ruzu, you don

't block hordes?

[safe pendant]

That's what I'm saying

Why block a horde?

[summer prairie]

when I'm ressing someone for example

[idle bay]

Trauma is trash anyway

[white badger]

because that's how most people deal with hordes. Blocking & Pushing to shape them, and Block-Attack to kill stuff.

[clear heath]

If you're only blocking the occasional hit, i'd wonder why you're even taking kinetic deflection anymore with these nerfs
You could easily just block with stamina if it's just a small hit, and it wouldn't require gimping your peril quell for a few seconds

[summer prairie]

trauma is fun now as they also tweaked the effective damage radius

[devout axle]

Fully charged Trauma only costs 25% instead of 40%. This is very nice.

[summer prairie]

not the best obviously, just decent enough

[devout axle]

You are just wrong with this.

[steel flame]

At least it's not a straight liability to use anymore

[white badger]

Trauma has a niche, just like every other staff.

[steel flame]

Looking forward to using the changes when I get home. I got a godroll trauma awhile back and I've been waiting for this moment

[summer prairie]

Json: It does have utility when things go wrong and the other feats in that tier aren't very compelling

[devout axle]

ALTHOUGH, Trauma now seems to be bugged where it's hitting Bulwark shields most of the time.

[safe pendant]

Bulwark shields have always been frustrating. Shooting from the side where the shield isn't, still registered as hitting the shield

[devout axle]

Trauma didn't hit them at all previously.

[summer prairie]

and it's still useful for blocking the occasional hit you take while push block spamming with the knife

[devout axle]

Now about 50% of my Trauma aoes are hitting shield

[round jay]

sooo, what's new in this patch? The patch note doesn't say anything really useful

[clear heath]

trauma better
blocking worse

[devout axle]

And weirdly it seems to be based on the direction the player is standing in relation to the shield.

[summer prairie]

it used to just have the same (inner) block radius as the player block, 180 degrees

[devout axle]

If I stand in front of the Bulwark, it's shield blocks the aoe. If I stand behind the Bulwark, it does not. Doesn't matter where I aim the blast.

[olive ember]

anyone know which blessings these refer to

[twilit flicker]

"Fixed an issue where the feat kinetic overload would target an inactive daemonhost" hehehe knowing that happened to some people

[clear heath]

all of them as far as i can tell

honestly impressed that they bothered

[olive ember]

theres the nerf

rip

On the plus side tho

[runic current]

bro what, i thought that was the point of deflection, why the fuck would i put my self at 100% and also be getting shot at

[olive ember]

I mean thankfully I don't actually hold block via deflection so its a minor nerf for me

[runic current]

the passive quelling was the point was the best part of it

now i cant tank, FS wants psykers to suck wtf

[flint plover]

if you didn't think the combination was ridiculously overpowered you're delusional

[steel flame]

Stuff like the dueling sword didn't even generate that much peril on a block I don't see why this is going to be an issue

[feral topaz]

@idle bay wellp, I got good news and I got bad news

[runic current]

when there 6-7 gunners' / reapers' yes there is

[feral topaz]

Good news is, I think I got the run and gun meme you mentioned :

[steel flame]

Don't kid yourself. Peril block wasn't ever going to save you from 6 gunners. Force sword passive quell isn't that good.

[feral topaz]

Bad news is, even though I think the following result is good, I'm not sure if its wrong that it feels lackluster when I test it :

[steel flame]

And it didn't quell while being shot at with deflector anyway

[daring nexus]

Yea it was really only good for cheesing monsters. It was dumb

[flint plover]

Yeah. This bugfix just stops you from infinitely tanking anything physical (daemonhost) with a melee weapon

which was broken

i mean I hear you 100%, it was fun, amazing, and I loved clutching runs when someone popped a daemonhost. but it was op.

[clear heath]

Most of the time i just blocked to reposition or to buy time while i gain toughness from quietude
now that second part doesn't work

and i can block to reposition with stamina alone anyways

[steel flame]

Ok I don't see problem then

[clear heath]

The other time i'd use kinetic deflection is just for revives

[crude talon]

Are we doom posting about Deflector being "useless" now?

[idle bay]

Yes 🙂

[crude talon]

I love doom posting

[clear heath]

Deflector is still an ok blessing

[steel flame]

I think it's mostly the people sore you Cant infinity block with saber anymore

[clear heath]

I just don't see a good reason to run kinetic deflection anymore

[summer prairie]

definitely worth it for the push attack spam if you use mkv/knife

[near wyvern]

RIP kinetic tanking. o7

[crude talon]

Dang I wish someone was being unhinged about it. Thats the most fun doomposting

[manic needle]

Are the changes really that bad, outside of the obvious bug where Deflection isnt working while reviving?

[idle bay]

Indeed. Playing Vet now.. no nerfs will come to Fatshark favorite class.

[flint plover]

i'm still fairly sure your peril can take more hits from gunners than your toughness can. I think it's still insanely useful for reviving someone in the middle of a horde with ranged attacking

[near wyvern]

I never really used KD with my Deflector. Just slapped on a couple stamina curios. Infinite dodges avoid a lot ranged damage for FS.

[clear heath]

You can't block bullets while reviving anymore

[near wyvern]

Stealth nerf?

[clear heath]

if you could, i would probably still cope with peril block for revive clutches

[broken quail]

Mostly run gunmage and rarely have high peril, I’m still happy taking kinetic deflector for a second stamina bar

[flint plover]

I missed that part of the notes. 🥲

[summer prairie]

that's a bug though

[steel flame]

Ima be real with you. Kinetic deflector on deflector force sword sucked on heresy/damnation before this patch. Especially when paired with a staff also generating peril. I've always used 2 +3 stamina relics with deflector and I will continue to do so, so I can continue to spam fs specials

[clear heath]

They didn't specify it, but it's part of this

[flint plover]

...Aren't the +3 stam relics broken?

[near wyvern]

Yes but you still get some which is better than nothing

[idle bay]

Still do. At least there is nothing about fixing them in patch notes

[crude talon]

has someone confirmed this? or is it speculation?

[steel flame]

No clue. I still have 2 of them though so who knows

[flint plover]

i'm not sure that should apply to deflector. the weapon is very much active. if you try to revive with your ranged out, you won't autoblock. so...

[summer prairie]

It's confirmed that it does not work while ressing but it's also acknowledged as a bug

[clear heath]

@crude talon

[near wyvern]

They really like to F us up lol. Pls tell me Trauma is good now

[flint plover]

ah, acknowledged? cool. then I can just take a break from my force sword as a clutch tool

[summer prairie]

trauma is decent and quite fun

[crude talon]

just tell your team not to get knocked down. Easy

[near wyvern]

I guess it's just the time to start trying to do solo damnations with idiots then

[safe pendant]

I must confess, I rezzed a Vet knowing full well he'd likely be torn apart the moment he stood up

[flint plover]

i do that to dagger zealots

[safe pendant]

lmao

[crude talon]

make friends

they will still be idiots

but

it'll be funnier

[near wyvern]

I do have friends

[clear heath]

I'll just wait for them to fix stamina curios and just block with the +3 stam
for revives i'll just let my team die or something, idk

for now i'll just be a zealot main for the patch

[near wyvern]

One of them plays vet and this is literally his playstyle:

[clear heath]

stun grenade buff is pretty nice

[crude talon]

lmao thats how my zealot friend plays.

[summer prairie]

Do you now get your block broken when you hit critical peril or when you are both out of stamina and out of peril

[crude talon]

just runs and never stops

[hexed ibex]

"Fixed issue where 'Kinetic Deflection' did not pause passive quelling, resulting in being able to tank some enemies indefinitely."
I thought this was just how it was supposed to work

[summer prairie]

you thought we were supposed to be able to block indefinitely?

[idle bay]

Well cool class feature was a bug all along. Who could guessed that ? 🙂

Or they just pulled an excuse out of the ass to nerf psykers

[hexed ibex]

Yeah considering you had to pair a feat and take a not cool force weapon to do it

[clear heath]

I was expecting them to just nerf the block eff, and would've been fine even if it was 4x weaker

[near wyvern]

just runs and never to the next corner and stops because the crusher said hi

[flint plover]

"Fixed issue with ‘Blazing Spirit’ blessing on Equinox Mk III Trauma Force Staff and Equinox Mk IV Voidstrike Force Staff that only applied warpfire to directly hit enemies on crit and not enemies hit by an explosion."

[clear heath]

wasn't expecting to get my peril quell nerfed every time i blocked a poxwalker

[flint plover]

Hoping my blazing spirit voidstrike isn't useless now

[dry tide]

blocking forever is only allowed for ogryns apparently

[crude talon]

No, he kills everything he sees but the other people we play with get swarmed with shit they struggle with and hes not there to help lol

[near wyvern]

We had a double boss spawn today on Damnation because malice players kept going forward with the boss instead of pulling it back

[idle bay]

And they have to take worst ogryn weapon to do it. Shield is a trap weapon

[crude talon]

and then im there, shocking stuff

[clear heath]

I've had a double boss spawn happen in the same area without anyone making any progress before

[near wyvern]

Slug + Plague Ogryn

[hexed ibex]

Just seems weird to kick Psyker while its down

[clear heath]

like within 1 minute of eachother, in the same spot

[idle bay]

Oh it's lore accurate

[crude talon]

Maybe now people will use the toughness DR feat instead of the jedi one 😄

[broken quail]

I recall my team finding a boss than right at an airlock door thing, we ran right to the door and on the other side was a second plague ogryn. Fought 2 at once

[near wyvern]

Like at the very least they could have buffed like wreck and ruin in any way (increase stacks, make it on any kill or something at least)

[devout axle]

Fatshark hates Psykers. Vet players hate Psykers. Zealot players hate Psykers. Psyker players hate Psykers.

[near wyvern]

It's actually very decent with Quietitude and Trauma staff

[summer prairie]

they seem to be saving actual balance changes for one huge patch/relaunch, but that might be wishful thinking

[dry tide]

at least my Beloved loves me

[idle bay]

Psykers are their own worst enemies - they ruined everything.

[crude talon]

My friends love me on psker, but random psykers do be suckin a lot of dick in this game.

[near wyvern]

Or so we think. Based on the drops it's a one sided relationship.

[flint plover]

🙏 pls be useful

[clear heath]

People talk about how peril block was broken, and it kinda was, but other classes have broken abusable survivability tools anyways. Vet has 200 toughness and 75% ranged toughness DR and zealot has the crit dr and instant toughness gain on F

[near wyvern]

What's wrong with sucking dick?

[crude talon]

it stops you from killing heretics

[near wyvern]

Gotta earn my blessings you know

[crude talon]

zealot has the toughness DR on crit too which is pretty much invincibility if you have an axe lol

[near wyvern]

Oooooo can you test in meat grinder if it triggers now properly on right click? Does the blaze light all the targets hit up or no? (They claimed they patched it)

[clear heath]

yeah i said crit dr already

[crude talon]

oh yea, im retarded

[clear heath]

also i forgot to mention zealots have toughness damage immunity on slide

[near wyvern]

We all are. Otherwise we wouldn't be Psykers.

[crude talon]

Well, I hope more people get mad and go play zealot or vet. Less dumbfuck revolver psykers in damnation

[idle bay]

Trauma still needs a faster charge time in addition to recent buff. Too clunky to use

[near wyvern]

If this happens I need to get that white revolver back from my closet

[still mountain]

If you're running revolver on psyker it makes the emprah cry

[steel flame]

We need to make psykers shoot force bullets

[clear heath]

If psykers were actual glass cannons i could be more accepting of us having worse survivability tools

still waiting on the cannon fatshark

[crude talon]

im not gonna lie, deflecting everything got boring fast for me so I never use it anyway haha

only rarely. I barely even use the FS these days

even though i love the charge attack

[steel flame]

Are we still on about kinetic block and force sword?

[idle bay]

They are laughing their fins off now in the office reading Psykers channel and twirling their moustaches

[flint plover]

hard to tell, since the enemies aren't grouped up well at all, but it seems to be applying correctly, yeah

[soft cliff]

are other Psykers getting weird flashes while quelling or being damaged, or is that just me?

[tender osprey]

"Aligned Equinox Mk III Trauma Force Staff and Equinox Mk IV Voidstrike Force Staff Peril costs to be more in line with each other."

so like, the wording feels weird, is this a buff or nerf?

[still mountain]

bold of you to assume they even care

[crude talon]

no devs are reading these chats

[manic needle]

Its a buff for Trauma and a "nerf" for Voidstrike

[crude talon]

im sure they are hard at work fixing this game 🙂

[idle bay]

They have a stressful job - and trolling players hard is a form of stress relief.

[tender sapphire]

did they actually nerf voidstrike? it was kinda meh prepatch

[devout axle]

Trauma Staff now only costs 25% Peril for a fully charged blast instead of the 40% it was before.

[clear heath]

It doesn't actually seem to have changed much

[near wyvern]

Sweet. So now I gotta find a blazing spirit trauma for the memes.

[clear heath]

I can't tell the difference

[crude talon]

Tracking this game on steamcharts is fun. A high of ~8k players yesterday!

[flint plover]

yeah, it might just be for the memes, since i'm finding voidstrike's crit chance to be very low

and even when it does trigger, it's 1 stack lol. 2 dmg/tick. i guess It'll give you warp charges occasionally..

[near wyvern]

Did they really increase peril generation for void? Gonna need that crafting soon so I can get the 5% transfer on it to solve the problem.

[manic needle]

Yeah, it no longer uses the LMB values

[near wyvern]

You pair with AB to get warp stacks

[manic needle]

Now it should be in line with the peril costs listed in the warp resist tooltip

[clear heath]

but... they weren't even that different anyways

[thorny idol]

Trauma staff buff is amazing

[clear heath]

now it costs half a percent more?

[near wyvern]

Can you screenshot values?

[thorny idol]

not really

[devout axle]

Trauma mains rise up. Our time is now.

[manic needle]

Depends on how good warp resist you have

[thorny idol]

I am Trauma main

AND NOW WE CAN FIRE 4 FULL CHARGED BLASTS BEFORE MAX PERIL

[near wyvern]

@thorny idol is the right click release cast still +10% peril at min charge and +25% peril at full on top of the charge or did they reduce that as well?

[devout axle]

5 if you are venting a little in between.

[near wyvern]

4 full is 2 times more than before

[devout axle]

Its true

And now we can actually see our charge meter, so we don't have to guess when "full charge" is.

[thorny idol]

full charge and fire ends it at 25% peril

[long wharf]

and at full blast, you're scattering a lot more enemies than before

which nobody wants

[devout axle]

I want that.

[near wyvern]

Thx so they basically more than halved the cost

[thorny idol]

is wanted

[near wyvern]

My team doesn't want. I want.

[thorny idol]

yes

[valid fern]

Should I reroll any of these perks?

[manic needle]

By whom?

[devout axle]

By me.

[thorny idol]

pair with a flamer or purgatus and that's alot of time for scattered mobs to be burning up

and if nothing else, they aren't charging you

[near wyvern]

If you want, unyielding into maniac but it's a matter of taste. Don't touch flak.

[flint plover]

Rending Shockwave seems to be working great now

my rending shockwave trauma staff is just.. wow

[summer prairie]

but trauma now does full damage to every enemy that fully stands within the AoE

[near wyvern]

Blue circle?

[summer prairie]

yes

[near wyvern]

It ain't the full AoE, it's the epicenter, but yes previously it was really not hitting at stuff on the edges of it

[summer prairie]

true not the full

but what was epxected

[valid fern]

ty!

[thorny idol]

just tested

if both feet are in circle, full damage

[summer prairie]

like so

[long wharf]

hmm

[near wyvern]

What about the white rim on the edge? Model one leg out one leg in?

[thorny idol]

if one foot is out of circle, stagger and light damage

[long wharf]

maybe it's time to take a new look at trauma

[near wyvern]

So it's not changed

[thorny idol]

no, damage seemed to taper off to the edge before

[summer prairie]

it definitely did not work like this before

[thorny idol]

there is no diff between epicenter and outer inner, more lethal for sure

I feel like the radius is smaller though

[near wyvern]

Trauma main Inc. Gotta just find one with blazing spiwit or rending.

[flint plover]

r glitch?

[devout axle]

Blazing Spirit is pointless on Trauma. AoE can't crit.

[summer prairie]

it can

[devout axle]

I have never seen it crit once.

[rapid flicker]

spam r and light attack with purge staff

[summer prairie]

after patch

[near wyvern]

It can crit

Oh

Was it a bug?

[fallen lily]

yeah

[near wyvern]

Label bug

[fallen lily]

But it works now

[manic needle]

That wasnt true before the patch or now

[fallen lily]

can set enemies on fire with an explosion. Which looks cool, but I don't know if it does much of anything

[summer prairie]

but 1 stack of blazing spirit is useless expect for marginal 6-2 use

[rapid flicker]

fire DoT is pretty powerful

[flint plover]

how fast do you run out of stamina blocking stray shots with deflector?

[thorny idol]

as mentioined, people on the rim of the AoE get staggered and knocked, now they burn as they rise up

[fallen lily]

1 stack is basically no damage though

[devout axle]

I promise you, it is or was. I have literally never seen a single crit with Trauma, and probably abut 60 of my 300 hours are with Trauma.

[rapid flicker]

try ascendant blaze feat with it

you’ll get more warp charge procs correct?

[flint plover]

as far as I can tell the purpose of the blessing isn't the damage, it's so that any enemy that dies with a soulblaze stack will give you a warp charge 10% of the time

[summer prairie]

but does it work if the enemy dies when you crit and apply it

[fallen lily]

You ain't killing anything with 1 stack of soulblaze

[manic needle]

Well thats funny because when I got Surge on a Trauma staff I tested it in the meatgrinder and was getting crits as consistently as one would expect.

Crits simply dont produce a lot of bonus damage, but there is a difference.

[flint plover]

again, not the point

[fallen lily]

but you need to kill with soulblaze to get the warp charges, yeah?

[summer prairie]

no

it has to have soulblaze when it dies

[boreal cave]

^

[proud mantle]

regarding bb does this mean you can no longer do base 3 bb from 0% peril anymore? it said stuff about blowing up more consistently at 100% but it wasn't super clear

[fallen lily]

OH

okay, rad

[devout axle]

If by not a lot, you mean 0. And don't display the same color as crits, then that seems like a massive oversight.

[flint plover]

As long as soublaze ticks once on the target, it can be killed by anyone and proc a warp charge 10% of the time

[manic needle]

No I mean about 70-80 extra damage on a staff with 62% damage stat

[near wyvern]

You don't need to kill them with the soulblaze, you just need to kill them while they are under soulblaze

[fallen lily]

The explosion damage is so big too. You can get a lot of soulblazed targets

[steel flame]

The reason it sucked was because it didn't ignite anything in the aoe

[fallen lily]

Way bigger than the actual radius it shows

[steel flame]

Now it does

[olive ember]

too quickly, its only used with peril blocking

[fallen lily]

Now I got to try and get the highest crit chance.

But crit chance only exists on weapons, yeah?

[sudden siren]

RIP duelling swords? maybee?

[summer prairie]

duelling swords weren't good with peril block just due to the passive quelling, they have good base block efficiency

[crude talon]

yes, more MOAR DOOM POSTING

[sudden siren]

so still useful for blocking horde and repositioning?

[crude talon]

YES

DUELING SWORDS ARE GARBAGE NOW

[flint plover]

No. I have 5% crit on my void and purg

[sudden siren]

has anyone tried?

[crude talon]

PSYKER IS UNPLAYABLE NOW

PLAY VET

[devout axle]

Jokes on you, Psyker was unplayable to begin with

[sudden siren]

mate, literally no one is fucking saying that. that was genuine question

[manic needle]

Force staffs are weapons

[crude talon]

Nah, plenty of people are doomposting in their own heads about this lol its hilarious

[fallen lily]

As in weapons?

[crude talon]

tru

[flint plover]

Yes.

..What else would void and purg refer to? lol

[hexed ibex]

S'bit like breaking the legs of a special olympian, they didn't need the extra adversity to overcome

[fallen lily]

Because you said "no" when I said crit chance is only possible weapons.

[summer prairie]

I don't think you can get a warp charge with 6-2 if you kill the target with the blazing spirit crit

[flint plover]

lmao. I don't know why but when you said "weapons" i thought only firearms and melee

[fallen lily]

Oh

[flint plover]

mb, yes crit can be on all weapons hahah

[still hearth]

So are you Psykers running Toughness Regen Speed curios yet

[flint plover]

yeah. I had three saved up

[fallen lily]

YEah, I got 55% toughness regen. It's wildly fast

[crude talon]

no, im playing vet because they broke my class

[still hearth]

Ogryn regen speed is literally inhuman

[summer prairie]

Is it fast? Because people were saying it's great even when it wasn't working

[flint plover]

abhuman, even

[crude talon]

psyker just like, is the worst you know? The only thing we had was jedi block and now its not even worth using

[flint plover]

apparently before it only worked on the coherency toughness regen delay

[summer prairie]

it didn't even work for that

[still hearth]

Their feat worked so they had double coherency regen but now the curio working its

Nasty

[flint plover]

i dunno if you think you're funny mate but I assure you, you're being obnoxious

[still hearth]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914161923334214/1067879467327963216/clip_3.mp4

[summer prairie]

ok ridiculous

[flint plover]

waow

[still hearth]

Ngl it is pretty funny to make fun of people calling it doom that you can't use Kinetic Deflector to just tank everything.

[crude talon]

it is funny

[flint plover]

no no, it's hilarious. he's just been doing it nonstop lol

[still hearth]

Ah fair

[summer prairie]

is that with some kind of ogryn toughness regen stacking though since it's more than one in the party

[crude talon]

Im bored, im trying to trigger someone

like that phfeaslkjnix person or whatever

[flint plover]

well gj, i guess you technically triggered me

[crude talon]

nice

[still hearth]

They get +100% from feat and then 3x +20%

But the feat only works on yourself

[flint plover]

https://tenor.com/view/bongo-cat-triggered-gif-14949762

[fallen lily]

At least be fair and say something to trigger Veteran chat

[still hearth]

But that's still 3.456x Toughness regen

[crude talon]

I triggered them last week saying the Power Sword is OP

[hazy locust]

"the blue glow on that bombers head is so i can kill it, not you"

[crude talon]

The only chat I wont try to get mad is Oggy chat because i love them

that toughness regen on that ogryn was crazy lmao

[manic needle]

How effective is Kinetic Deflection + Deflector after the patch? As a nerf to passive quell I imagine it wouldnt affect performance much, yeah?

[neat summit]

I was just about to ask

First glance I see the timing of it being tough with sustained damage. For example, daemonhost 6 hit chain or whatever. Each hit stops your quelling while raising your peril. Not awful because you can still dodge, but your margin for error is much smaller.

[crude talon]

KD and Deflector is now "working as intended" its fine. Except the bug that lets you get shot while picking someone up

[neat summit]

The block break at 0 stamina with kinetic deflection I’m not sure how that will work. I don’t see it being a problem if you manage your stamina.

[runic gate]

Is it time to dust these Trauma staffs off and give them a try? When does rending even do, is blazing spirit any good? a whole new worrrrld

[manic needle]

I mean, that's obvious but it doesn't really answer my question. I can't play an actual match right now and I'm curious about Force Sword blocking performance vs. ranged after the changes.

[long wharf]

Blazing Spirit on trauma staff is useless

you aren't critting enough, and applying 2 stacks of soulblaze is garbage

[summer prairie]

@neat summit: it's now not supposed to break your block if you get hit at 0 stamina if you have peril block

[neat summit]

Soulblaze is still not great so I don’t see it being useful

[crude talon]

The same as it worked before, but without passively quelling.

[neat summit]

My b then. Thanks

[flint plover]

https://tenor.com/view/ah-shit-here-we-go-again-ah-shit-cj-gta-gta-san-andreas-gif-13933485

[idle bay]

Blazing spirit does nothing but lights up a scene a bit, a random burning enemy works as a light source in "Lights out" special conditions. And that's it 🙂

[runic gate]

Fair enough! Walking lanterns!

[crude talon]

thats what we call "utility"

[neat summit]

Soulblaze is just not good. It may be better later but I wouldn’t count on big changes to Soulblaze any time soon.

[manic needle]

So has anyone tried it out yet?

[summer prairie]

it makes more sense to 6-2 ult the horde even with 0 warp charges and then kill them with your void/trauma for the 10% chance

[idle bay]

2 stacks of Soulburn is not enough to kill a Poxwalker on sedition , and 1 stack is even more useless 🙂

[runic gate]

How about RENDING SHOCKWAVE

[neat summit]

And it’s on critical hit. Like bruh. Just apply the stacks. Let me do 1 damage.

[runic gate]

I still don't even know what rending does.

[flint plover]

Once you attack with Rending Shockwave, the armored enemy will take much more damage. Works great on crushers so far. With 1 full charged hit, my force sword lights go from 2 dmg -> 17 dmg on the head.

[runic gate]

fair enough, so it's like rend in WoW.

[idle bay]

Like we have critical hits .. ever?
Soulblaze on my Force sword - i see only 2-3 enemies getting DoT through 20 min mission

[flint plover]

also affects trauma LMB, but not any further trauma charged attacks

[neat summit]

Yeah I just dont get it. Im fine with Soulblaze not doing much damage but if I’m using a weapon that gives out Soulblaze, let it just give them out.

[flint plover]

to be fair, the force sword has a low crit chance and low cleave, right?

at least the voidstrike and trauma can hit tons of enemies.. making it slightly more effective

[idle bay]

It have useful special attack and sometimes a Deflection blessing for a small party trick, and that's it. 🙂

[flint plover]

well, one shotting ragers with that special never gets old

[idle bay]

Using it to kill anything with it's normal attack is just like hating yourself

[strong fog]

Yo Look What Hadron gave me. Bloodthirsty lasts 5 sec, so all my lights or charged attacks benefit from it

[summer prairie]

wow

[strong fog]

shitty bars though

[idle bay]

Give her a can of WD-40 for it as gratitude 🙂

[neat summit]

Bloodthirsty nice

[austere estuary]

y'all seen the notes?

[manic needle]

Yeah, I was wondering how Force Sword deflector was performing after the changes

Won't be on to test myself for quite a while

[austere estuary]

my three 20% toughness regen curios

I am now expecting to be pretty fun

already the delay reduction I liked

void with quietude and peril xfer also big buff

[manic needle]

I imagine you're pretty excited about the Trauma changes

[flint plover]

ooh Decapitator on my Antax V probably works properly now

[austere estuary]

I sort of am? Lower peril is whatever, and soul blaze working on secondary would be nice if they hadn't nerfed the only way to get reliable crits with it

shred no longer working

[summer prairie]

they also fixed the full damage radius

[austere estuary]

highest crit we can reallllly get would be warp nexus + perk + base for t3 of 30%

oh they did?

I missed that

[summer prairie]

it's not in the notes

[austere estuary]

I'm gonna hop into psyk

[summer prairie]

but every enemy fully within the circle takes full damage

[austere estuary]

I mean that was already the case nearly at 80% bar

[manic needle]

@austere estuary If you end up testing out Deflector, could you let me know how it's performing after the patch? Psyker chat is being sadly unhelpful today

[austere estuary]

maybe they shrunk the circle at lower amount

I haven't used deflector much before even I'm afraid

[manic needle]

Damn

[marsh token]

O.o what did they change on deflector?

[austere estuary]

the bar on crosshair is huge for trauma tho

[flint plover]

a new bug prevents you from resurrecting with KD active.

[austere estuary]

if you pair the right quell speed with it

[manic needle]

Kinetic Deflection no longer benefits from passive quelling

[flint plover]

rather, you're no longer immune to ranged

[marsh token]

Nice

[austere estuary]

so warp res at 80% now allows for 4 casts of trauma

[flint plover]

oh.. hounds are back.

[austere estuary]

25% per charge+cast

[crude talon]

are you fucking serious?

[austere estuary]

xfer peril still can't work on secondary on trauma, still trash

[flint plover]

who's serious? and why do you care? my sex life is my own business

[austere estuary]

[crude talon]

dont call me shirley

[flint plover]

roger

[austere estuary]

numbers on secondary are now accurate

[summer prairie]

want +infested on that

[austere estuary]

wow they really did make executor total, utter trash now

doesn't xfer to ranged, worthless skill

still resets on non weakspot hit so

yeah

[nocturne badge]

unarmored + flak is better imo

[austere estuary]

gonna go nom dinner then I'll poke about some more with it

[summer prairie]

don't you want to 1-shot poxwalkers

[austere estuary]

shred nerf massive nerf to purgatus though

rip stacks

[long wharf]

going to have to rely on warp nexus and bonus crit chance on the staff

[manic needle]

So does swapping to your ranged weapon just remove stacks from blessings like Shred now, or did they simply make it so that the stacks dont apply to your other weapons and abilities?

[remote void]

does anyone feels that quelling is slower with staffs now?

[summer prairie]

It's a much easier fix to just make it remove the stacks and that makes sense too, so I doubt they made the stacks just not apply to your ranged

a bunch of things already worked like that

[idle bay]

Now i need to check if i have a Trauma with decent stats to try it out...

[manic needle]

It wouldnt surprise me if that's how it works now, yeah. Ill test out Uncanny Strike on my dueling sword later

[tender sapphire]

My favorite gameplay mechanic is pressing a laggy refine button for 30 minutes to find the one perk I want

[summer prairie]

it was incredibly laggy earlier when the patch hit

[marsh token]

Hadron is having the time of her life.

Too Bully me

[manic needle]

I trust you are pleased, varlet?

[marsh token]

Ptsd kicks in

[cloud heron]

so what are the big takeaways from the patch so far?

[idle bay]

Which one to choose...

[idle bay]

Shred and roulette exploits fixed

[manic needle]

Charge rate on Trauma is usually a pretty big deal. How much of a difference do those extra percentage points make?

Also weak spot damage on the right should be rerolled if you end up going with that one

[idle bay]

It still charges way way too slow for my taste- i find it too clunky

[manic needle]

I'd probably try upgrading the left one to see what you end up with, it has the potential to be better I think

[azure holly]

Hey siblings ! Any tips to handle assassination (boss fight) as a psyker ? Should I stay behind "front line" and do ranged damage (brain burst or staff ?) or rather go melee ? Thx in advance

[cloud heron]

Either horde clear or dive in with melee

[long wharf]

do what everyone else should be doing

[summer prairie]

if it's the sewer assassination everyone should just melee

[long wharf]

put your back to the wall next to where the boss spawns and melee the shit out of him

[frank talon]

"Aligned Equinox Mk III Trauma Force Staff and Equinox Mk IV Voidstrike Force Staff Peril costs to be more in line with each other."

Does this mean these two staves use more peril now?

[runic gate]

Your whole team should focus on clearing horde while at least 1 person stay in melee range of boss to keep him from shooting. When theres no horde/specials everyone should burn the boss.

[manic needle]

Trauma uses a lot less, Voidstrike uses a tiny bit more

[frank talon]

Thank you, sibling. I'm at work and cannot check.

[devout axle]

Alternatively, have everyone stand next to a wall, drop a medkit and wail on the boss. Then when his shield drops, use a heavy special from your Force Sword.

[summer prairie]

the boss taking a lot of damage within a short time frame is what always forces it back to melee

[gaunt stone]

So is it me or is warp flurry actually not fixed on surge?? I just tested it with 8% warp flurry and see 0 difference

[runic gate]

This works really well but less effective on T4/5. I find my technique more reliable but both can work.

[summer prairie]

it's not fixed for anything really

[sacred field]

Is pick n mix bugged?

[manic needle]

It's only fixed on Trauma, patch notes are accurate

[gaunt stone]

I reread it

thank you

I wonder why they didn't fix surge :c

I feel like that staff is more played than trauma

[summer prairie]

I don't think they fixed it for trauma

[runic gate]

What specifically did you want them to fix?

[manic needle]

Knowing Fatshark they probably didnt even know it was bugged on other weapons

[gaunt stone]

warp flurry blessing

[manic needle]

I definitely noticed a difference with Trauma casts using a T3 Warp Flurry, but it would be worth going back and testing it with recording software to be sure

[summer prairie]

but do you actually get the flurry bonus when you do a longer charge or only if you min-charge a few first

[manic needle]

I was casting to full charge each time

[shadow onyx]

quelling while blocking was a bug sad

😢

[desert lance]

I, a fool, thought Psyker Tanking was legit.

[shadow onyx]

was fun

rip

[topaz tiger]

Any advice for perks? : /

[still hearth]

They'll come for the Vet, Zealot and Ogryn next

[gaunt stone]

psykers are supposed to be fragile lol

[desert lance]

It was fine. You could tank trash but heavier things could press you and require tactics.

I'll miss tanking Daemonhosts.

[summer prairie]

You'll still tank everything if you stack some stamina+bcr

not daemonhosts though

[gaunt stone]

I am so glad they adjusted trauma staff

after testing it in meat grind it feels usable..

[shadow onyx]

p sure you still can, i mean fs have infinite dodge

[desert lance]

What did they change to Trauma?

[manic needle]

I doubt peril blocking Daemonhosts was ever intended, I think everyone was predicting nerfs when it was discovered

[gaunt stone]

they reduced the amount of peril it generates

[shadow onyx]

and duelling dodge is amazing

[desert lance]

Thank god.. Gonna go test.

[summer prairie]

you have to dodge everything to ever passively quell against her

[gaunt stone]

like it is legit

useable

[idle bay]

I was predicting nerfs regardless 🙂

[desert lance]

Also, "psyker sposed to be fragile" while they legit sold cosmetics with the story of a beefy psyker

[full kite]

[runic gate]

It's still pretty high, but the CC might be nice. I feel like a zealot with flames and a psyker with zaps is still more consistent. I know a lot of people prefer the T-posing elites for easy headshots from the surge staff. I don't feel like an elite knocked to the ground getting back up is as easy.

[desert lance]

At least it isn't putting me in the red with two uses anymore.

[frank talon]

That's good news, I got one with the Rending blessing as a Gift and I wouldn't mind using it

[gaunt stone]

I never said I was gonna use to staff 🙂 definitely like surge better

[runic gate]

for sure, but I can surely say I don't plan to burn any plasteel on upgrading one yet

[summer prairie]

I think you get like 1 stack of warp flurry if you are just full charging it. Maybe two if you min charge spam but definitely not 5 stacks

[gaunt stone]

yeah you get put in red at 4 uses with 80 warp resist

most people will be able to do 3 full charges on trauma now

[desert lance]

I think it could still use a 50% reduction.

[manic needle]

I'm just gonna have to cope with the fact that Trauma Psykers are going to be knocking the targets Im aiming at all over the place now lol

[proud mantle]

anyone have a summary of psyker changes lol i dont understand all their terminology

[desert lance]

Or a bigger AoE

[gaunt stone]

my least favorite thing in this game are weapons that knock mobs down in all directions

[desert lance]

Ogryns

[gaunt stone]

cause sometimes it knocks things behind you

lol

or mob clips into you and you get stuck

[desert lance]

Agreed. The sheer amount of times I'm wounded just because a guy stood in me and swung at me.

Fatshark could benefit from a heavy application of mass on certain surfaces.

[magic burrow]

If Psykers are fragile then I want to be fragile to the point where everyone else suffers as well. Put me in a wheelchair. Make the vet push me around while I zap things with my lightning staff. Let me yell at dregs to get off my fucking lawn.

and if I die then the mission automatically fails

[manic needle]

Yelling at Dregs to get off your lawn is basically what your F ability does.

Dregs: charge player
Psyker: "WARP USE SANCTIONED!!"

[hoary hearth]

Which duelling sword is considered the best?

[summer prairie]

2 or 4 if you use it for horde

[desert lance]

Pro Game Design 101 - We want this class to die in one hit. Not because it outperforms another class either.

[manic needle]

5 is for single targets and mobility

[near wyvern]

@long wharf FeelsBadMan

I spent around 4k Plasteel upgrading greens and whites in search of bloodthirsty blazing spirit FS but seems like I don't need to anymore. They stealth nerfed Blazing Spirit on FS, doesn't apply double stacks anymore.

[long wharf]

for real? god damn them.

we don't get to have anything nice

[near wyvern]

It's just funny that they actually nerfed a blessing that was already under performing

[desert lance]

At least they claim we can BB through fences now.

[magic burrow]

I dont know what the hell fatshark is doing but nerfing soulblaze is some real clownshoes shit

[near wyvern]

Soulblaze in itself is not nerfed

[long wharf]

wait, does this mean purge isn't applying 2 soulblaze on crit now either?

[summer prairie]

do purg crits still apply double stacks

[magic burrow]

I know, the blessing

[desert lance]

Soulblaze, I would argue, cannot be nerfed.

[near wyvern]

Purge is, blessings do not

[desert lance]

It is pretty bad as is.

[near wyvern]

100% Tested

Just like 10 mins ago

[long wharf]

hmm, not sure how I feel about that, but at least purge wasn't nerfed

[atomic dagger]

Fixed issue where 'Kinetic Deflection' did not pause passive quelling, resulting in being able to tank some enemies indefinitely.

[near wyvern]

And they did stealth buff the Blazing Spirit on Void and Trauma in that they now can apply blaze up to 31 stacks which is the max stacks in game

[summer prairie]

it definitely doesn't make sense to make a blessing that applies x stacks on crit but then it actually applies 2x due to the crit. But yes it's a very weak blessing

[idle bay]

Still can't burn Crusher with Purgatus unles you have all day 🙂

[near wyvern]

And FS Blazing Spirit proc is still able to upkeep even at 31 stacks, it just cannot apply past 10 anymore

[manic needle]

Still I cant imagine it ever being good on those weapons

[magic burrow]

https://puu.sh/JxAgA/009aad486f.png

me every time someone informs me of yet another "but why" tier Psyker nerf

[near wyvern]

Rending works

Or brittleness

[idle bay]

Either is not on Purgatus. And it's make sense to have them on Purgatus

[long wharf]

jesus h christ, why are you attacking me like this?

[manic needle]

Maybe with the soulblaze stacks affecting everything in Voidstrike's blast radius, you could put together something with AB, but I doubt it

[near wyvern]

On FS probably not. On Void / Trauma with AB it's usable. Especially with Trauma now like holy moly that max charge blast range.

[long wharf]

you'd still have to crit with void

[near wyvern]

Yes

But when that happens it's disco Inferno

[long wharf]

... but so what?

[desert lance]

The stacks are feeling so small.

[long wharf]

you aren't relying on soulblaze with void for anything

you're already killing the crowd

[manic needle]

I feel like the crit rate would be too low to be consistently good in most cases, though

[near wyvern]

You can AB blast the ranged with warp battery

If that's your jam

[long wharf]

you can shoot them in the head too

[desert lance]

My issue with soulblaze is, I light them on fire and then a better class just kills it in a swing or two.

[manic needle]

Yeah Voidstrike's attack pattern really makes having AB feel redundant

[long wharf]

you aren't going to crit enough with void for it to be something to build around

[near wyvern]

It's impossible to hit with LMB while strafing and avoiding gunfire

[long wharf]

and the best blessings for void are transfer peril and surge

surge requires crits as well

[near wyvern]

Surge for sure is nice

BTW transfer peril triggers off KF, not that it really matters but it's there

[manic needle]

Every bit of extra quelling helps

Cant wait to test out Quietude with Transfer peril now

[near wyvern]

Updated for 1.0.22

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2917274959

[long wharf]

that's an interesting interaction, not that it's going to have a big impact

I always run extra warp charges with void

for the extra peril resist

[runic gate]

Nice of you to put this together for people @near wyvern

[magic burrow]

Im actually puzzled on a lot of these things. I can sort of imagine why they would nerf Kinetic Deflection, but the way they did it they just make the feat actually detrimental in most situations. You actually make yourself worse by taking it. And then there's things like making voidstrike build more peril, nerfing soulblaze blessings, deflector not working when picking up allies. It's so bizarre.

[idle bay]

It's VIII but 380 is 380... need to grab it

[runic gate]

I grab all 380s. "meta" could change, as well as new classes/subclasses. nice pickup

[hexed ibex]

KD is broken now and more or less does not activate as you're pretty regularly blocking little individual swings thats resetting whatever delay timer they added

[foggy tangle]

So they didn't buff force staff peril they just nerfed void lol?

[manic needle]

No

[summer prairie]

trauma was buffed, void seems the same. The wording is just a strange random justification for it

[manic needle]

Im generating about 5% more peril total on a full charge IIRC. Around 20% instead of 15% per cast

[magic burrow]

KD now literally just builds peril. What is even the point of this feat now?

[near wyvern]

VIII is very versatile

[summer prairie]

What's wrong about building peril

[manic needle]

Thats.... literally what it was supposed to do?

[brisk plume]

Yay we got nerfed! was totally needed

[hexed ibex]

KD still works in allowing you to use peril as stamina its just awful dogpoopoo now

[clear heath]

can they at least fix stamina curios so i can abuse blocking with stamina instead?

[summer prairie]

it's still way more efficient than stamina blocking

[magic burrow]

it was supposed to replace stamina with peril, but whereas stamina actually refills rapidly, your peril just builds and doesnt quell because that was deemed OP

[desert lance]

I wouldn't say "way more"

[summer prairie]

stamina does not refill rapidly if you are being hit

[magic burrow]

they couldve just increase the amount of peril blocking with the feat causes, but halting passive quelling is just insane

[long wharf]

if FartShart added peril resist to the peril cost calculation for blocking, KD wouldn't be as bad

[strong fog]

When you parry a hit with KD, it seems like you have to wait 3 sec before it start passive quell again

[magic burrow]

it's a very kneejerk nerf

[hexed ibex]

Really dumb "fix"

[brisk plume]

SO glad they fixed that. it was really ruining the game for me

[summer prairie]

agreed

[clear heath]

it's ok, we have new broken toys to play with now
https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/SeNGcSyezBrFS/5ZpXSewTVeJB

[desert lance]

Game is obviously developed by Ogryn who were upset that we could tank as well as they could.

[hexed ibex]

As an Ogryn main it was really taking away from my identity as a walking Door when the Psykers could also block things

[summer prairie]

did you see the ogryn clip with +20%x3

[clear heath]

yeah it was insane

[broken quail]

If your peril is maxed by KD you won’t be about to force push which will hurt a lot, might just go stamina blocking since then I won’t get trapped by ragers I can’t stun

[clear heath]

enough to make me actually want to play ogryn

[runic gate]

You keep posting this, do you want to elaborate? What diff this is on? What are you trying to showcase

[summer prairie]

toughness regen in coherency

[magic burrow]

what is the psyker's identity

[clear heath]

this is literally the first time i posted this and it literally says in the title what it is

[summer prairie]

note how the regen seems to stop when there's an enemy close to you

[long wharf]

to be a glass window that everything can break easily

[vale holly]

Why mine Armoury Exchange browser doesn't work properly?