psyker-class

[ornate hamlet]

Surge lets you deal with 6 targets next to each other, any more than that and you're starting to sweat.

[wet jacinth]

I wish primary attack of the staffs were more unique

[grim magnet]

idk, i was able to have an impact as ogryn, but as psyker i dont have good crowd control, and i'm not as good at eliminating shooters and specials as veteran

[summer prairie]

dreg shooter packs are a bit annoying, that's about it

[cyan notch]

vet is basically practice mode

[ornate hamlet]

surge causes a lot more peril than purg, it does way less dps, and if your group isn't supporting you in damnation you're ded

you will be peril cap and F on cooldown and end up surrounded trying to melee

[cyan notch]

youre not dead youre just slowly killing stuff

[summer prairie]

yes

[ornate hamlet]

with purg, it's the opposite, you can do far more DPS before dealing with peril issues, you can also use it while retreating to CC easier as well

[ornate hamlet]

Psyker is probably the most flex atm. They have only 3 amazing ranged choices, but they are way better than Vet in melee and always have a sniper that can take things out from behind cover.

[grim magnet]

what makes them better than vet at melee?

[summer prairie]

peril is irrelevant, you can quell to safe state immediately with any staff except maybe trauma

[ornate hamlet]

Stamina regen

Peril blocking is also good.

[cloud heron]

imo, purge is the staff that needs team support. Surge doesn't force you to commit to much. purge will struggle if you're being flanked or have an elite get too close to you.

[ornate hamlet]

Veteran at 0 stamina will just die, but Psykers get their stamina back almost instantly.

[ornate hamlet]

you must not use purg much

you don't struggle when using purg lol

[summer prairie]

I also like surge on lower difficulties because it lets you play aggressively

[ornate hamlet]

Both purge and surge needs a team.

You can't cover everything with either of them.

[grim magnet]

is the trauma staff good?

its the only one i have rn

[ornate hamlet]

Its

Uh

Bad

Sorry

[grim magnet]

yeah it feels bad lol

[ornate hamlet]

you can literally use anything in lower difficulties, in fact GUNS kill faster than staves

Its also "bugged"

[grim magnet]

might just take a gun tbh

[ornate hamlet]

It gives way too much peril

[summer prairie]

you can, but with surge you can just run at anything without slowing down

[ornate hamlet]

The top choices to feel good on Psyker (aside from preference):
Surge Staff
Purge staff
XII Kantrael

[mortal pendant]

opinion discarded due to the 3rd option

[wet jacinth]

Lol...

[ornate hamlet]

That's okay you're fine to be wrong, Raven.

[grim magnet]

the kantrael is best for killing shooters and elites, but the psyker has other options for that, no?

[ornate hamlet]

purg is far stronger than surge when you learn how to use it properly in each situation btw, it has a higher learning curve than surge

[summer prairie]

if you say so

[grim magnet]

so wouldn't it be better to take a gun thats better at killing crowds?

[ornate hamlet]

Not to the same level.

Kantrael also lets you quell peril while doing so

[mortal pendant]

if u play baby difficulties u can get away with using guns as psyker

[wet jacinth]

You dont have to be a Vet for XII to be good

[mortal pendant]

but on damnation u'll get instakicked

[ornate hamlet]

correct

[ornate hamlet]

Damnation is baby difficulty now? Damn.

https://tenor.com/view/my-dress-up-darling-marin-kitagawa-anime-cry-gif-24942970

I guess I gotta get good.

[cloud heron]

I've played a fair bit of purge on damnation. it doesn't have the dodges to endlessly kite, which you need to do if all of the enemies aren't immediately in front of you

like if you're trying to hold a chokepoint but a door is also behind you

[cyan notch]

gun is just gun but you cant stand still afk u get no wallhacks/damage boost/suppression immunity/toughness regen

[ornate hamlet]

that's what i was trying to explain, you shouldn't be "solo" in damnation at all

however, if your team isn't great at covering each other and sticking together well to watch each other's backs, SURGE is far worse than PURG trust me lol

[cyan notch]

so pretty mid

[ornate hamlet]

it takes much too long to wind up surge CC

Lul

purg is instant

[cloud heron]

well yeah, you shouldn't have to do a lot of things. You're less mobile with purge though because it's easier to pivot off of the surge staff

[summer prairie]

You don't have to explain anything, many people here have hundreds of hours of damnation psyker

we don't have to trust you

[forest coral]

no bully each other

[cloud heron]

what do you mean wind up the surge CC? you don't have to charge it

[forest coral]

[wet jacinth]

When both points are negligible differences in play style. Just adapt

[ornate hamlet]

lol

[wet jacinth]

[floral solstice]

the channel went from extremely quiet to this

this is the real peril of the warp

[ornate hamlet]

Ah well.

i said wind up not charge @cloud heron

People be like "I used gun once and I don't feel like Vet so its bad"

[cloud heron]

Can you elaborate, then?

[forest coral]

vet damage output is so juiced

[ornate hamlet]

i literally just did lol

Yes.

Vet is dumb af.

Their base active is like other characters level 30 upgrade

And then they get a level 30 boost too

@cloud heron wind up means start to charge, not fully charge

[wet jacinth]

Imo that is in need elaborating. You cant tell that from reading what you sent

[cloud heron]

Mm, i don't really feel like that's a fair distinction. The result you want out of the surge staff comes faster than the result you want out of the purge staff

[ornate hamlet]

no it does not lol

[summer prairie]

are you kidding

[ornate hamlet]

the regular left click is an AOE CC on purg

while it is NOT an AOE CC on surg

it's a crappy tiny fireball

[summer prairie]

a fireball

[wet jacinth]

Force bolt

[ornate hamlet]

Purge LMB is a line shot though.

[wet jacinth]

Not fireball

[ornate hamlet]

But anyway

[wet jacinth]

[noble mason]

Force ball

[ornate hamlet]

Purge lets you stop hordes the same speed that Surge lets you stop elites

[cyan notch]

gun is fine without all the vet free win abilities but on psyker u just get nothing out of feats

[forest coral]

purge lmb's suppression is stupidly good for how little peril it makes

[ornate hamlet]

Psyker barely gets anything out of any of their feats to combo with anything other than Purge

[cloud heron]

What are we talking about? You're not using the purge to CC most of the time. I thought you meant suppression. The tiny knockback from purge is not comparable to stunning a crusher with surge

[wet jacinth]

I would agree but that could be voidstrike

[cloud heron]

and you can stun a crusher with surge much faster than you can begin to control a horde with purge

[noble mason]

dam

[ornate hamlet]

I'm pretty sure Purge can CC any big enemy except Crusher if they're in range.

Surge can just do it more reliably and at a longer range

[forest coral]

I think easier way to see this is if roles are covered or not. Without another flamer role, surge might not the best idea but if another player is covering then surge is pretty invaluable

[unique geode]

I believe surge is the only weapon that can cc a mutant

[ornate hamlet]

Yes

[noble mason]

ya but who does that

[ornate hamlet]

But mutants are also much less scary if you have a team

Surge is nice to carry idiots

the only thing i miss from when i used to use surg more, is dealing with dogs and pox bursters, i can manage fine with purg, but they were a lot easier to deal with using surg

[forest coral]

like moments when you single handedlyh hold back bulwarks, maulers and muties in a elite swarm probably saved a run

[wet jacinth]

If only idiots yknow. dodged the mutants

[unique geode]

It is nice to stop a mutant slamming a teammate at range before they take damage

[ornate hamlet]

I mean sometimes you can't but if you're next to your allies the mutie should die

In like 1s

[forest coral]

on contrary id say surge makes good teams excel, its horrible at carrying a mediocre team tho

[ornate hamlet]

right, that's why i have been saying surg shines more in damnation, and i don't really like it for any other difficulty as much as purg

[floral solstice]

@forest coral hello there

[ornate hamlet]

and in damnation, purg is still very viable

[forest coral]

hi ranni

[wet jacinth]

[ornate hamlet]

If you have a good team balance I don't see the point of surge.

[floral solstice]

kimo so nice he magnets muties on purpose

[ornate hamlet]

surg just shines more in damnation
i personally would use purg for all other difficulties, and usually still use it in damnation too

Purge perhaps.

[forest coral]

YOU DONT GET TO CALL ME OUT RANNI AHHH

[cloud heron]

Surge covers up a lot of bad behaviors that randoms have, which let's them play above the difficulty they should be at

[floral solstice]

what i was being nice

[cloud heron]

Purge just horde clears really well and leaves you out to dry when other roles aren't being covered well

[ornate hamlet]

i firmly disagree lol, it's CC is not nearly as bad as you're suggesting

The CC is bad because why CC when your team should just kill things

If you're purging

They should be able to clear threats

[floral solstice]

ok now that's one of the takes ever

[summer wind]

A dead enemy is perma stunned

[ornate hamlet]

you do both at the same time

when comparing purg to surge, you're essentially just trading some range reach for much more DPS, and not having as strong of a CC against certain (ogryn) size enemies

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/QhSmC7CbhEHpu/d1337iNB8SIP?invite=cr-MSxpN1ksMTYwMDY1NDYwLA

[summer wind]

Stunning is always worse than killing

[cloud heron]

Lost runs are full of people saying "you should have done x"

[ornate hamlet]

and you also have better horde clear of course, which i should have thrown into that statement

[unique geode]

Psyker has 3 weapons to cover their needs. So whatever staff you take, your BB and melee can cover what the staff doesn’t

[floral solstice]

i understand that you guys might have played other games where "death is the best form of CC" is incredibly accurate

but nah bruh im sorry i cant agree with that on darktide

[summer wind]

It is here too

[ornate hamlet]

BB is very situational, but you make a fair statement

[forest coral]

like i was saying, surge should only be taken if someone can cover horde control

[summer prairie]

if stunning and death both happen instantly, yes

[summer wind]

Like its not complicated or different because its darktide

A dead enemy isnt a threat

[forest coral]

but opening up tank elites so your teams damage can be focused cant be understated

[ornate hamlet]

this is the problem i usually run into with pugs, they're all shit vet players usually

[floral solstice]

more on paper stuff

[summer wind]

A stunned enemy will become one

[floral solstice]

got it

[ornate hamlet]

Allies have:
Grenades
Shoves
Zealot F
Ogryn F
Ogryn GG
Zealot Flamer
Crusher
Ogryn melee in general

To CC enemies

[forest coral]

well yeah, best blessing a surge staff psyker can get is a organized team with comms

[ornate hamlet]

Ogryn can literally shove a group of rager to perma stun them with any melee

[forest coral]

I wouldnt even try to carry with that kind of set up

[ornate hamlet]

Like Surge is fine

[summer wind]

Hot take, surge staff kinda sucks

[forest coral]

purg staff on other hand can carry

[cloud heron]

Talking about what other classes should be/can be doing in the context of discussing surge is a non starter

[floral solstice]

definitely one of the takes ever

[cloud heron]

Its a staff that excels at covering bad teammates

[ornate hamlet]

both surge and purg are viable and strong enough in damnation, i just prefer purg

[ornate hamlet]

I agree.

[summer wind]

Surge carries the least weight

[floral solstice]

i hope your experience on psyker isn't "i played pysker to 30 and played him a bit on damnation"

[ornate hamlet]

But it doesn't enhance good groups as much as it covers bad groups.

[unique geode]

What would be psyker best melee for horde dps? Mk V combat with brutal? One of the claw variants?

[ornate hamlet]

and in all other difficulties easier than damnation, i don't think surge is worth using at all 😛

[floral solstice]

not even on the mood to argue with this dumb take lmao

someone take over

[summer wind]

It also just isnt fun

[forest coral]

surge on malice is funny easy mode tho since it just kills things out of your line of sight half the time

if ur doing fast farms

its like w/e

[ornate hamlet]

Combat Axes aren't great for clear speed but it is effective to keep you safe during hordes. Claw is also kinda bad. I think Chainsword is actually the best horde clear on Psyker melees.

[summer prairie]

even on heresy while purge kills faster, depending on the team composition surge can allow faster clears

[ornate hamlet]

that's actually my fav thing about it, which is a point no one else made, you can use it like BB and just zap stuff through all the walls and cover

that's one of the other things i miss about it

it's very strong against ranged

[forest coral]

my stance basically, no flamer or pug, purg better, organized team with flamer or horde role covered, surge makes run much smoother

[unique geode]

Damnation isn’t really hard enough to punish someone for bringing surge or purg. They both work great.

[floral solstice]

no no no surge no dps = bad according to them kekw

[ornate hamlet]

it's hard when your group is bad, but yeah

[floral solstice]

they're 100% right, their wisdom knows no bounds

[forest coral]

no bully ranni

[ornate hamlet]

surge dps does suck tho lol

Its true. The only good Psyker staff is Trauma.

https://tenor.com/view/think-smart-gif-22411928

Highest damage

[unique geode]

Really? I wouldn’t have guessed that. I’ll have to check to see if I have a decent one.

[forest coral]

We had a psyker make trauma work in damnation earlier

but there were many times where im like, I wish your ass had a purg

[floral solstice]

i mean, who's denying that surge has bad dps anyway? aside from charge casting or getting consecutive crits on scabs lol

[ornate hamlet]

Combat Axe and Claw have bad cleave distribution numbers. The Combat Axe shove has a hard cap on 3 targets.

[floral solstice]

god this is like that one time someone on zealot chat said the same thing about psyker

and prolly dont even use psyker as much

[unique geode]

Am I crazy or did psyker used to have access to heavy swords in one of the betas?

[floral solstice]

ayt ayt milords and ladies, surge bad it is then, what's the next take

bb useless in damnation?

[ornate hamlet]

you know those moments we've all experienced in pugs where we're feeling like we are dealing with more stuff than we should have and you're like "where is my support here wtf"?
because they all turned around to do something random?
those moments can result in you getting cornered with surge, because it's light attack is not an AoE CC + decent DPS ability.

[floral solstice]

we reddit now

[ornate hamlet]

BB is useless in every difficulty

Just stab them with Knife

Easy

https://tenor.com/view/anime-laugh-gif-14348867

[floral solstice]

that's not a surge problem, that's a random player problem

[summer wind]

BB kinda sucks but has uses

[summer prairie]

true, you should stab everything with the knife

[ornate hamlet]

BB is great though.

[floral solstice]

if it all boils down to your loadout and class then every goddamn vet should be carrying games

[summer wind]

Literally surge issue

[ornate hamlet]

which is exactly what i was trying to say about surge before, it's best when you have people you can at least semi-count on

[floral solstice]

even the brainedad ones

[ornate hamlet]

Its like a single target surge against Crushers.

And it can snipe things from behind cover

[cloud heron]

That's fair, but I usually go into a game with a surge staff intending to rely on melee a lot more than normal

[summer prairie]

That's why I like the knife with surge, very good elite dps and you can use it aggressively in any situation. MKV is better for horde but can't stand the mobility and worse elite dps

[floral solstice]

literally misuses literally but sure

[summer wind]

Dude it's a fuckin darktide class channel

[ornate hamlet]

Okay but actually

All staffs are bad anyway

[summer wind]

Not a letter to the president or whatever

[ornate hamlet]

Because the melee swings are bad

give me a staff that is hybrid, it has PURG light attack but SURG charge attack, and you'd have best of both worlds.

Use Laspistol for force shove

[cyan notch]

mid weapon

[forest coral]

Laspistol zealot

the discount veteran experience

[ornate hamlet]

Zealot not getting the force shove

Where's my holy shout

[forest coral]

witchs get no b-lessings

[idle bay]

Zealot give the party expectations that you will run away and die. And if you are not - you will be pleasant surprise 🙂

[ornate hamlet]

i want to be able to use a gun and a staff instead of a melee wep

js

would be fun

[ornate hamlet]

That's how I feel with Psyker except they just die sometimes.

Look away from a Psyker/Vet for 5s

They're suddenly dead

[forest coral]

zealot is goated in damnation

dont @ me

[ornate hamlet]

Meanwhile Ogryn just rolls around.

Good Ogryn = hugs walls
Bad Ogryns = hugs your line of sight

Zealot is the most clutch machine out of all the classes atm

So yeah they do best in chaotic environments.

But Veteran reduces the difficulty by doing their job.

Psyker is like between Vet and Zealot

[forest coral]

vet and psyker actually need to get good for damn, zealot can flamer or just melee hold down a point on their own

[ornate hamlet]

Decent clutch, decent difficulty reduction.

Kimo but

[forest coral]

or come back from shit decisions with holy revenant

[ornate hamlet]

Purge is just a better flamer

[wet jacinth]

Ogryn is Pogryn

[ornate hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-laugh-gif-14348867

[forest coral]

vanessa noooo

[ornate hamlet]

I swear the tag line of Psyker is just "purge is a better flamer ;_;"

[wet jacinth]

Not the Vanessa

[forest coral]

damnation ogryns are just built diff

i dont know how they do the things they do

[ornate hamlet]

Ogryn is actually just a test of patience

They're so good

But half the time hugging walls/allies

Is the way to play

Save ammo to delete dangerous elites

Save F to save allies

[ornate hamlet]

ogryn has a higher skill ceiling to play effectively, a lot of ogryn players fall into traps

Psyker gets to monkey around more

Zealot is all monkey

[forest coral]

best ogryn i know literally calculated a impacted grenades exploding timer to blow up a charging poxhound

[ornate hamlet]

Veteran is either god-mode one-man army or Camo Vet that kills the sniper, sometimes.

zealot is the easiest class to play effectively for sure

[forest coral]

im like wtff

[ornate hamlet]

Hmm.

I'd say Veteran is actually the easiest if you can aim.

[wet jacinth]

The better Ogryn wouldve just BOXED the doggie

[ornate hamlet]

if you can aim is the difference tho

Yeah

[wet jacinth]

[wheat quartz]

despite using the flamer all the time on zealot
there is one reason I like purge more

[ornate hamlet]

But even if you can't aim on Vet

You can play Agrip Braced Auto

[forest coral]

hue

[ornate hamlet]

And just run down shooters

vet also play a lot more effectively when there's at least 1 psyker in the group btw

[wheat quartz]

unlimited ammo, I can dump a full charge flame into one poxwalker for the lulz and not feel like I'm wasting resources

trigger discipline is for the sane

[ornate hamlet]

Yeah flamer is all about efficiency tbh

surge pairs better with vets, purg pairs better with ogryn and zealot imo

[wet jacinth]

Allow me to play purge then. Fuck the vets

[ornate hamlet]

Here's the thing though. Any choice you make should ideally be to make the group overall better.

[floral solstice]

who's that dumb ogryn

[ornate hamlet]

i switched from surg main to purg main btw lol

purg + axe is my jam

[wet jacinth]

Though

I do wanna try out surge again at least a better stats one

[forest coral]

oh man must have been a random

[wet jacinth]

The only one I've seen was when I was like level10

[ornate hamlet]

i'd give it to you if i could

i don't even want it

[floral solstice]

you motherhumper you actually clipped it im fucking laughing so much rn fuck you

[wet jacinth]

If only the shop wasnt worthless and give 4 FUCKING TRAUMA staffs in the shop

[forest coral]

ur free to pull dirt on me dw

[wet jacinth]

Dirt

[forest coral]

[ornate hamlet]

this one's ok too

[floral solstice]

in my defense i played ogryn like 5 times in 2-3 weeks

[wet jacinth]

That's 50x not enough

Also me.who hasn't touched darktide because friends wanna play siege

[floral solstice]

i enjoy ogryn but my god it sucks to bring with pugs at times

[forest coral]

no more siege

[floral solstice]

especially with the average vet rando?

firefights take years

at least on psyker i can barrage shooters

[forest coral]

yeah thats why im like, damnation ogryns just built diff

[wet jacinth]

I imagine Damnation Ogryns to just be like

[floral solstice]

granted, i've cleared high intensity as ogryn with randoms a bunch of times

[wet jacinth]

Doom slayer

[floral solstice]

but still

i prefer to just bring ogryn on premades

[ornate hamlet]

This game is best

With 1 of each class

[forest coral]

they do so much if the person playing them knows what theyre doing

[ornate hamlet]

Its the peak Darktide experience

[wet jacinth]

False. 4 ogryns is maximum efficiency

[ornate hamlet]

4 Ogryns is memes.

But 1 of each class is spice

[wet jacinth]

Meme efficiency

[floral solstice]

btw kimo you saw me use box on a hound aftter (or was it before) that match

[wet jacinth]

But it doesnt hit the same as 4 ogryns

[floral solstice]

so that makes it even

[ornate hamlet]

Having a combined HP pool of 2.5k is pretty good

[wet jacinth]

You get 4x the boxes

[ornate hamlet]

You need a Vet to give you more boxes though

And a Psyker to give you more CDR

And a Zealot to give you infinite Toughness

[forest coral]

i still remember my early psyker experience

being surropunded by ogryns as they offered me their boxes

in an elevator

never forget

[ornate hamlet]

3 Ogryns, 1 Psyker

[wet jacinth]

3 Ogryns 1 Lil un**

Your max height lil un means nothing to ogryn

[ornate hamlet]

"I'm big where it counts!"

[wet jacinth]

[wet jacinth]

😏

[forest coral]

min height psyker gremlin

3 chad ogryns

[ornate hamlet]

I wish we could change height

[wet jacinth]

I actually made my vet max height not knowing it would affect crouching height.

Fucking hell

[ornate hamlet]

Idk why they thought height was a good thing to vary on

[forest coral]

yes but the confidence was what made me crack up

[ornate hamlet]

Especially when it actually affects gameplay

[forest coral]

adds some flavor i guess since u could technically shoot back from cover

[wet jacinth]

What bothers me is that fact that it isnt stated to affect your hitbox.

[forest coral]

if tall enouhg

[wet jacinth]

Let alone it being unchangeable in the end

[ornate hamlet]

Should that really bother you in this game where they don't state how things work half the time?

https://tenor.com/view/anime-laugh-gif-14348867

[wet jacinth]

I'm still contemplating remaking a new vet just because of the height

[ornate hamlet]

I'm gonna make a bug report

That I can't change my height

And I need everyone to chime in that its broken

[wet jacinth]

Fatshark be fatshark but yes I angy

[ornate hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/paripi-koumei-eiko-tsukimi-thumbs-up-anime-gif-25479338

[wet jacinth]

https://tenor.com/view/im-angy-angry-no-talk-with-me-sloaney-panda-gif-14286263

[floral solstice]

@forest coral i saved the lunchbox clip lmao

i'll have to be careful playing with you starting now

im becoming meme material

[forest coral]

[wet jacinth]

Ranni is nsfw AND a Meme

[forest coral]

dont worry, i only save the wholesome stuff

[wet jacinth]

[forest coral]

[floral solstice]

nice, so i do have a purpose for living

ok was that too dark

whatever kimo fuck you stop clipping

you didn't even clip my hound box snipe

you went for the memes

[forest coral]

ur free to meme me whenever it happens lmao

[floral solstice]

should've recorded the game where you got grabbed by a mutie 4 out of 5 times

at least mutie magnet is your trademark now

[forest coral]

it will happen again.

[floral solstice]

yes mom 😦

oh wait im playing soulstorm creating daemonhosts

after this

look at this ugly boi

it's pink ingame not gren

green

i want fatshark to refund me

[forest coral]

it green because nurgle

also god emperor disney dictates green is evil

[floral solstice]

ha nerd

jk

i dont know much about 40k lore and im afraid to know where to start

[forest coral]

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Main_Page

have fun with the rabbit hole

just like us fr fr

[floral solstice]

gn jello

[forest coral]

have good rest!

[cloud heron]

All you really need to know is that the imperium are the good guys

[floral solstice]

i'll haunt your dreams

[floral solstice]

join chaos, gotcha

whichever side has dreg gunners im joining them

[rapid flicker]

i could recommend some yt lore videos that me and my gf have been watching as she’s pretty new too

and they’re funny

[lament topaz]

Hey…that’s my Psyker’s name…

[rapid flicker]

mine first

[lament topaz]

It’s fine I uninstalled DT, you can have it.

[rapid flicker]

thank you friend

[lament topaz]

Black Ops 3 has taken me.

[rapid flicker]

it took me once

[lament topaz]

This is the first proper time it’s taken me.

Too bad since the May 16th Steam update the game needs a DLC unlocker to run without lagging every three seconds.

[rapid flicker]

feels kinda pointless after awhile of just playing rounds with randoms

some not even knowing how to play somehow when the games been out forever

[lament topaz]

I was being taught some stuff by a rando last night.

Was quite fun.

[rapid flicker]

it’s feels good to be good at the game though

like juggling zombies n whatnot

[clear heath]

Got the footage
Look at how the ability bar jumps up when the psyker gets the kill

[lament topaz]

I played my first ever like, actual MP zombies last night after owning the game for like, a year now.

It was the guy who was teaching me stuff, some other chill dude, and then this cracked out kid who constantly had us map jumping and minor EE grabbing.

[rapid flicker]

sounds like the stereotypical line up

at least one cracked out 12yr old

then will scream at you to rez them

[lament topaz]

At first me and the teacher were like, “Okay, maybe he’s achievement hunting or something.” After about an hour or two of constant map hopping we came to the conclusion that it was a kid.

[rapid flicker]

sounds about right

wants to see all the maps in one play-through

[lament topaz]

Nah, he was doing the Samantha doll stuff.

Like, absolutely cracked out and not as in he was good.

[cyan notch]

vet gets nothing if he kills elite right

[clear heath]

yeah

everyone gets ability recharge if the psyker gets a kill, no one gets anything if someone else does it

[cyan notch]

everyone else in coherency with psyker right

but psyker always gets it

[clear heath]

well i assume so. Haven't tested people leaving coherency but that's what the description and code says

and yeah psyker always gets it on their own kill, even when alone

helps a lot on clutches

imo it's a nice pick on surge psyker. get to spam F a bit more often and has saved me a few times
and it's not like the other options are that great either. it's either this or warp charges

we don't talk about wrack and ruin

oh wait it's not wrack and ruin

[cyan notch]

i tried it but found myself not killing elites with bb that much since im just surging

[clear heath]

lacerations

still bad lmao

my gameplay loop is basically just
press F -> BB 0-2 targets -> spam surge
repeat every time F comes up

I don't get an elite every kill loop of F, but it happens often enough that i get some value of it

It's not like i'd always get value out of communion either anyways
Sometimes you'd just be at 4 charges without it just from flayer or manual bb so it's not really doing anything

[cyan notch]

not for me i spam surge basically all the time

and use communion for blaze

[clear heath]

If you're taking ascendant blaze that's a different matter. you need charges for that

but for a barrage build i think aura is a better pick overall

not that either of them are that big of a difference for a barrage build anyways

[cyan notch]

yea id probably use aura with barrage

[sinful sleet]

Yeah, Aura sounds better tbh. Your teammates would benefit greatly for it if you are going for a team buff + cc support. Lacerations is kinda weak since well, team cohesion is already a thing. If it stacks then its hella better.

[grim magnet]

the incomprehensible power of the warp when it comes up against a small metal railing:

https://tenor.com/view/angry-blade-runner-2049-ryan-gosling-anger-gif-16634156

[light quail]

i'm glad this guy lost an eye

gave me a 322 shitty stat duelling sword

[rapid flicker]

do you ever get anything good from those

i usually don’t

[nocturne badge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w604zS98txs

i just saw this even tho it's a month old

[light quail]

got this last night

decent lil trinket

[sinful sleet]

Rarely. Got a decent Epic trinket like that one. Then I got 4 shit commons in a row and decided to just stock em up

[rapid flicker]

decent but i’d trade the dmg res for toughness regen or more of any stat

best just buying directly

from both the special acquisition store and normal armory

[light quail]

still though
melks randoms should be guaranteed rare

such a fucking scam

never trusting his judgement again

[rapid flicker]

they should up the price and have it drop better loot

[cyan notch]

patched

[light quail]

this

yes pls obesehammerhead

[sinful sleet]

^this
Need at least below 95% peril now I think. Still there but if running Communion, get out of critical peril range to proc it to get most out of the perk

[rapid flicker]

it’s a special acquisition store yet i receive garbage from it

special garbage

[cloud heron]

I've never used melk's random weapon thing but did always assume it would draw from his normal shop pool

[idle bay]

In few months no less

[cyan notch]

wdym

[sinful sleet]

I hope they add in other Psyker classes soon. Psykinetic is alright but I want to try new stuff

[rapid flicker]

i want a more supportive psyker

like a warp shield or something

giving buffs

[idle bay]

From Melk, today on Ogryn. So there is a chance for NOT a trash 🙂

[sinful sleet]

A literal support mage yeah, that one would be a good addition

[rapid flicker]

i meant the random ones

they should be of better quality if they upped the price

otherwise you shouldn’t bother

[ornate hamlet]

we're already "support" since fatshark destroyed the class compared to what it used to be

[idle bay]

There might be a slightest korean MMO grade (like Lineage 2) chance for non trash as well :)"

[nocturne badge]

good to know

[idle bay]

somewhere in 0.001% range

[summer prairie]

update?

38mb only

[idle bay]

Psyker nerf for sure!

[summer prairie]

Fixed ‘Warp Flurry’ blessing not working on some trauma force staffs. one staff? what

[cyan notch]

Fixed a bug on the Rifthaven Mk II Purgatus Force Staff where you couldn’t change weapon while you were firing the charged secondary action attack.

holy shit finally

[rapid flicker]

up the price and make it drop better loot. would make the random acquisitions worth your time

[summer prairie]

Fixed an exploit where ‘Shred’ weapon blessing allowed you to keep critical strike bonuses when wielding another weapon.

[rapid flicker]

like gambling with in game money

[summer prairie]

Fixed issue where 'Kinetic Deflection' did not pause passive quelling, resulting in being able to tank some enemies indefinitely.

Fixed issue so you are no longer Block Broken when at 0 stamina with 'Kinetic Deflection'. I guess that helps a bit

Almost no balance changes

[uneven drift]

Aligned Equinox Mk III Trauma Force Staff and Equinox Mk IV Voidstrike Force Staff Peril costs to be more in line with each other. -- now voidstrike will cost as much as trauma

[cyan notch]

Fixed issue with bleed blessings applying bleed on zero damage attacks.
rip lacerate knife vs bulwarks lmao

[cloud heron]

im at work right now and can't play. What does this actually mean? Peril doesn't drop while blocking? Or blocking an actual hit just pauses it?

[ornate hamlet]

imo it's worse than the normal stock

[cyan notch]

Changed Dreg Shooter suppression values to enter suppression a bit earlier, reduced immunity duration from 2.75-3.25 to 0.25-0.5.

wtf this is huge

[clear heath]

I saw this and thought you guys were joking about a patch

wtf they're nerfing psyker?

[light quail]

FLAYER NOT ON BULWARK SHIELDS

YES

[clear heath]

wait so what does it do now?

[cyan notch]

toughness regen fixed?

[summer prairie]

warp flurry still doesnt work on surge, they really just fixed it for trauma, maybe

[clear heath]

does it actually speed up coherency regen now?

[nocturne badge]

oh no

[cyan notch]

i guess it makes you regen quicker in coherency

[nocturne badge]

i hope they dropped the peril cost of the trauma not increased the cost of the voidstrike

[rapid flicker]

best update yet

[clear heath]

stamina curio fix wher?

[cyan notch]

deflection nerfed anyway

[summer prairie]

Trauma staff peril cost is fixed

[light quail]

its lower?

oh my god

yesesds

[nocturne badge]

i don't even have a trauma staff to test it with lmao

[light quail]

yes

yes

[idle bay]

As i said Nefr - no more infinite blocking

[summer prairie]

and they fixed the radius

[light quail]

my baby got fixed

yes

back to trauma i go

[west galleon]

No more daemonhost tanking in a corner

[clear heath]

If kinetic deflection is gonna start pausing passive quell every time i block a hit, i might just stop taking it
It's still probably nice for revives, but idk if that's worth pausing passive quell for blocking

[west galleon]

Wew

[long wharf]

Quite the patch, eh siblings?

[sacred field]

Is that a nerf to voidstrike or a buff to trauma?

[summer prairie]

trauma

[west galleon]

Its a start

[uneven drift]

I bet, half of this still doesn't fixed.

[light quail]

YES

YES

YES

FUCKING DELICIOUS

[slender compass]

What does the Voidstrike staff look like now? Heard they changed the peril on that too.

Also I can't wait to use flaming spirit now. Voidstrike detonation+setting everyone on fire must be beyond amazing.

[long wharf]

Eh, trauma still doesn't do full damage to everything and it still knocks enemies around

[summer prairie]

well did you see the clip, pretty decent at least

[clear heath]

So they fixed shred and crucian
Did they fix headtaker, slaughterer, or the other 10 or so blessings that apply globally though?

[idle bay]

Stamina curios not fixed

[clear heath]

What about warp nexus?

[light quail]

still my main though
onetapping poxbursters and doing mad stagger to even the heaviest units

[long wharf]

No, because it's on crit and you aren't critting enough for it to matter

[floral solstice]

lmao i just said something like this earlier, no way they're keeping it

[long wharf]

And we can't abuse crucian roulette now

[cyan notch]

zealots in shambles

[long wharf]

Yeah, knife build just took a major hit

[rapid flicker]

zealot is even worse now?

[clear heath]

welp, time to remove crucian from my shop filter

[nocturne badge]

pog

[idle bay]

Less Knife/Revover retards in games is a massive bonus

[clear heath]

Crit zealot works fine without crucian anyways

[floral solstice]

nice, less baddie knife players in pugs, hope they start learning how to actually melee

[feral topaz]

Rejoice

[rapid flicker]

tru

[long wharf]

Yeah, that's a good fix (about damn time)

[bold flint]

is the trauma staff damage now accurate

[idle bay]

With Kinetic Deflection fix (nerf) - we lost a unique feature.. sadly. No more point in those +3 stamina curios

[nocturne badge]

oh this is nice

[clear heath]

I still want to try +3 stamina with deflector force sword

[bold flint]

Aligned Equinox Mk III Trauma Force Staff and Equinox Mk IV Voidstrike Force Staff Peril costs to be more in line with each other.

alright lads how bad is it

[clear heath]

if they could actually just fix the curio that would be great

[idle bay]

What is the point - if passive quelling will be off when blocking.

[cyan notch]

wtf this is a new stat

[stuck bridge]

someone needs 2 pin this so people arent asking if voidstrike got nerfed all day

[light quail]

its perfect
trauma lowered to voidstrike cost

[ornate hamlet]

Its like Christmas

Came a month late

[bold flint]

id vastly prefer a clip where the quell on kill wasnt triggered

[spice urchin]

How is voidstrike looking cost wise? They aligned it so I don't know if that means void got more costy or just trauma got cheaper

[light quail]

its christmas in sweden rn

[ornate hamlet]

Not where I'm at

[stuck bridge]

fair

[light quail]

trauma got lower

[clear heath]

just to block bullets for longer

I wanna see how many i can block

[light quail]

banger patch just for the psyker buffs

still got a ways to go though

(15% to BB'd targets base kit pls)

[clear heath]

I hope the passive quell pause is short at least
If it's too long, then kinetic deflection might actually just be detrimental to take

[cyan notch]

i feel like charge generation was always there just added and clumped with secondary fire full charge

[nocturne badge]

is this patch coming out tomorrow?

[cyan notch]

its out

[sterile vale]

Now

[nocturne badge]

my game doesn't seem to be updated cause trauma staffs are still bringing me to 90% in two uses

[dawn orchid]

rip peril block

[cyan notch]

did u download the update lol

[floral solstice]

where's the "fixed an issue where crafting is incomplete"

[rapid flicker]

what’s the peril rate with warp charges?

[floral solstice]

[nocturne badge]

it didn't promt me to

[uneven drift]

Yeah, basically divided actual charge and release portions of attack.

[clear heath]

this might explain a lot of poxburster explosions from my zealot

or im just bad idk

[onyx oracle]

Is this a good staff?

[cyan notch]

yea i saw the bug post in forums

[stuck bridge]

i really wish they would organize these patch notes into a balance change and bug fix section

instead of just throwin it on the floor every where

[floral solstice]

perks kinda meh but otherwise looks good

[summer prairie]

passive quell stops for like 5s when you block

[long wharf]

5s!?

[cloud heron]

speaking of update, is the armory not loading for anyone else?

[long wharf]

RIP combat axe blocking

[onyx oracle]

why? is Combat axe blocking RIP?

[warped perch]

WAIT THERES A PATCH

WHAT

[stuck bridge]

it looks like a lot of things that made psyker more playable (bugs) got fixed lol

[ornate hamlet]

nothing new

[stuck bridge]

dont be too excited

[long wharf]

Zealots must be crying right now

No more bleeding bulwarks through shields

[cyan notch]

something weird is going on with trauma lmao

[long wharf]

No more crucian roulette abuse

[sinful stream]

Just saw the patch notes - they said they changed trauma staff and voidstrike to be more in line with eachother peril cost. Anyone know if that means they increased the peril cost of voidstrike??

[summer prairie]

I posted a clip, trauma is buffed

[stuck bridge]

lol

[warped perch]

NOOOOO

[cyan notch]

actually nvm thats bb

[cloud heron]

What am I looking at exactly? The damage to the mutant?

it kind of looked like BB procced yeah

[cyan notch]

the radius is so damn far

[floral solstice]

now knife zealots might actually start reconsidering other melee weapons

[sinful stream]

Naw that's the fun part about trauma and kiteic flayer

[cyan notch]

why does it do damage to stuff 200m outside its cast radius

[sinful stream]

Anyone in the 1 damage suppression radius which is massive can be killed

Via headburtlst

We got the trauma buff it needed... but at what cost!?!??

Voidstrike was already pretty meh in damnation it didn't need this

[still mountain]

RIP deflector?

[summer prairie]

I think still good

[bold flint]

oh good, purgatus doesnt cancel itself if im not holding down left click

[gilded cloud]

"Fixed an exploit where ‘Shred’ weapon blessing allowed you to keep critical strike bonuses when wielding another weapon"

Noooooo

[stuck bridge]

the trauma needs more than just this imo but good start

[cyan notch]

they changed bulwarks shield using your position too

u can now target the back of bulwarks shield and open them

[uneven drift]

Trauma new meta, nuke the whole map from the start.

[sinful stream]

Agreed but I'm happy for any little steps to be on the same level as other staves. Voidstrike didn't need to take a hit imo

[gilded cloud]

Ngl... Reading the changes... Seems like a lot of bug fixes or changes nerfed psykers even more

[stuck bridge]

yes

[dense vault]

tbh, you kinda have to have it in a fixed state before you can properly start balancing it

[floral solstice]

does that consistently happen?

[dense vault]

and this is from someone who likes playing psyker

[gilded cloud]

Yeah...

[stuck bridge]

well bug fixing psykers who are ||abusing|| the bugs

[sinful stream]

I mean infinite tanking a boss with a standard feat seems a little overturned

[sinful stream]

10% chance on damaging an enemy to brain burst ever 15 seconds, it's random who it targets

[stuck bridge]

just sucks that those bugs are what made psyker p good instead of just having a good and fun core game fesign

wish i tried the axe one lmao

[bold flint]

whats this mean

[cyan notch]

means u can target trauma behind a bulwark and open them up

[cloud heron]

but for real though is the armory extension broken now for anyone else?

[sinful stream]

Right trauma was finicky on whether or not you could stagger a bulwark

[floral solstice]

yeah i mean other targets getting hit outside the radius

[bold flint]

lads theres something wrong with my revolver

[clear heath]

It's dead for me and a friend rn

[rapid flicker]

looks legit

[floral solstice]

same for me

[rapid flicker]

blows up in hand

[tender sapphire]

"r" glitch purgatus staff is kinda ok now

[sinful stream]

Yes, just like veteran grenades, it has a epicenter (max damage), a explosion radius (scaling damage on distance), and then a way bigger supression/stagger radius which does like 1 damage

The first two I mentioned are part of the glowing circle

[dense vault]

but it´s ok to infinite tank one if you plant a shield as ogryn? 😛

[floral solstice]

oh okay, then that triggered flayer i guess

[sly anvil]

Plague ogryns easily my favorite enemy

[rapid flicker]

it’s cracked with flayer

[floral solstice]

ive literally never bothered to try trauma so i didn't know

[brittle crest]

Trauma actually good now?

[rapid flicker]

i tried it while low lvl so idk

[dawn orchid]

Doubt it, looks like peril gen and some bugfixes, but nothing about making it actually do anything beyond fling stuff around (while also doing no damage).

[rapid flicker]

i’d stick with the purge meta if you want to be good

or surge

[cyan notch]

way more usable now

[wet jacinth]

Trauma gives players trauma to never use it again

[bold flint]

so youre saying if youre in front of a bulwark and you target trauma behind them theyll become staggered?

[cyan notch]

yes and before it would not work

[wet jacinth]

Or they get Copium Trauma to say it's better than other staffs

[dawn orchid]

It's better than other staffs at trolling your team

Which is why I play psyker

[rapid flicker]

that’s why we all play pysker

[dawn orchid]

When I could be playing vet or ogryn

[cyan notch]

gryn

[rapid flicker]

i made 2 ogryns mad at me because i was killing all the pox walkers

they kicked me

[bold flint]

how do you feel about this

[clear heath]

I'm more excited about zealot stun grenades finally working on bulwarks

[cyan notch]

oh that works from the front too cool

[clear heath]

it used to only work if zealot stood behind the bulwark

[cyan notch]

trauma is pretty darn usable now

[summer prairie]

kind of fun too

[bold flint]

ive got good bad news for you, its worked from the front for a while

[cyan notch]

nah

[clear heath]

I think it always did yeah. Just didn't knock them on their asses

[rapid flicker]

i’d still like to see what the decreased peril cost of the trauma staff is with warp charges

[dawn orchid]

Usable is not good I'm afraid, although it's certainly not as useless.

[cyan notch]

ive tried it in the past from front and back it just did the blocking animation

[bold flint]

you just havent done enough charging

[dawn orchid]

Needs more oomph or area imo. Or a left click that actually complements the ability

[bold flint]

ive been traumaing bulwarks in the meat grinder for a long while

its worked before this patch

[cyan notch]

not for me

definitely was wonky in practice too

[rapid flicker]

we all have a different version of DT

[cyan notch]

full charge under their feet = block

full charge behind them = block

[elfin roost]

Every copy of DT is personalized

[rapid flicker]

we’re all just playing the same game with different settings

[clear heath]

ok i actually really don't like kinetic deflection now

[floral solstice]

heck yeah, that was annoying

[wet jacinth]

[floral solstice]

as if their busted shields blocking from angles they should be getting hit at weren't annoying enough

[wet jacinth]

Eh

[still mountain]

Improved the targeting of tagging and ‘Brain Burst’ through fences, gaps in railings etc.

Yoooooo?

[magic burrow]

is kinetic deflection even worth it without passive quelling?

[clear heath]

I'm considering taking it off
I'll miss being able to revive through bullshit tho

[magic burrow]

it just seems dumb now

[still mountain]

Still worth it, you just won't be able to infinite tank

[magic burrow]

why would you increase your peril

[cyan notch]

to block

[clear heath]

With how it pauses your peril regen for like a full second to block, it actually feels detrimental to do that compared to blocking with stamina most of the time now
Unless you're trying to block some insane bs

[light quail]

big E wants me to play gunpsyker again

now with working reload talents

[supple skiff]

Fixed issue where 'Kinetic Deflection' did not pause passive quelling, resulting in being able to tank some enemies indefinitely.

OOOF

rip axe users

fucking nerfed us again

[summer prairie]

you'll still stagger everything with your push attack, probably not that bad

[long wharf]

yeah, combat axe will still clear hordes, but no longer for tanking

[light quail]

yay or nay for a laspistol?

[clear heath]

huge nerf for that feat overall imo
I'll play around with it more but rn it actually just feels like i'm nerfing myself when i need to block

[light quail]

72 stopping power got me feeling things

[jovial frigate]

I've been running stam curio all this time waiting for this change

also i dont think it will be that bad overall

[supple skiff]

I dont even use axes

[jovial frigate]

esp now that dregs SHOULD be not just absolutely insane suicidal gunners

and suppression SHOULD work

[supple skiff]

im just chapped that I have yet to see anything buff

[rocky cedar]

Were stam curios fixed? Didn't see it in the patch notes

[long wharf]

nope

[supple skiff]

but one of the things we had, removed

[cold oasis]

Oh nice, they nerfed Psykers

that's really something we needed

[rocky cedar]

Also anyone worked out what toughness regen speed actually does now?

Patch notes were super vague on that one

[wooden kindle]

The Ogryns stopping by to say 'Sorry for the nerf, fellas'

[cold oasis]

I love that now that talent level is just COMPLETELY useless

[clear heath]

I'd rather not completely pause my passive quell for a full second and reset the quell speed just to block a hit
Would rather just use stamina to block at that point

[light quail]

thank you, sweet brute

[supple skiff]

Fixed Issue where the ‘Quietitude’ Feat did not work with the ‘Transfer Peril’ Blessing.

okay good enough

il take the trade

[jovial frigate]

it reduces the delay from which your toughness starts regenerating when you dont take dam

[valid lake]

Fixed issue where ‘Kinetic Deflection’ did not pause passive quelling, resulting in being able to tank some enemies indefinitely. nerfed boys

[jovial frigate]

I thought stam was never bugged? isn't 2 stam 1 stam bar?

[long wharf]

we can BB through railings and fences now, though

[jovial frigate]

well technically 1.5 but we dont see half bars in this game

[long wharf]

nope

[still mountain]

Speaking of stam curio, when are they going to fix them not working above 1?

[clear heath]

never

bad game

they should just nerf psyker again

[jovial frigate]

I could have sworn they just used vermintide math and made 2 stam = 1 stam bar/shield

[sinful stream]

Ok so this feat is no longer the no brainer only feat worth taking in its column

[jovial frigate]

brb

[long wharf]

so, they fixed a lot of bugs, but we're still waiting for them to address mechanics

[rocky cedar]

From patch notes:

Fixed issue where the ‘Toughness Regeneration Speed’ Curio only gave a bonus to the Toughness Regeneration delay of Coherency.

[long wharf]

a much more difficult problem for FartShart

[cold oasis]

The rest is absolute utter trash, so you know. Great.

[summer prairie]

it's shocking that they didn't have actual balance tweaks ready to go after a month

[rocky cedar]

The way it's written makes it sound like it does other things too now

[cold oasis]

Kinetic Shield is utterly useless, and Mind in Motion does fuck all

[magic burrow]

more kneejerk nerfs for the psyker class while veterans get a veritable feast of blessing and feat fixes/tweaks

[sinful stream]

Quietitude working with the transfer peril blessing is soo nice

[light quail]

vet is the elf of darktide

[long wharf]

nothing kneejerk in the patch notes

FartShart has problems, but let's not be stupid

the patch is actually great

it indicates a willingness on their part to fix things

[cold oasis]

The fuck you going about

[long wharf]

we may not like the consequences of those fixes, because mechanics haven't been addressed yet, but it's a massive step in the right direction

[cold oasis]

That's not willingness, thtat's the minimum amount.

[wet jacinth]

The kinetic deflection nerf imo should've been reduced Quell speed instead of no quelling during block entirely

[gilded cloud]

Can someone explain to me, how to best use a surge staff? Like a strat. Just tried using it again and it just feels so pathetic lol. I like void more but. I know surge has the potential. I just idk I think I'm using it poorly

[long wharf]

no, the minimum is closing down the game's servers and walking away

[cold oasis]

Yeah, sure.

[jovial frigate]

yes, that means you can now regen your 1 toughness/second faster when you're all by yourself with toughness regen

b4 it would only reduce the interval when you were in coherency as well

[rocky cedar]

Honestly KD kinda had it coming. Pretty obvious Psyker infinite blocking a DH or being a better reviver than Ogryn wasn't really the design intent for the class

[gilded cloud]

Which one is better?

I think stats on left...but Warp Nexus is better?

[long wharf]

exactly, KD was always going to be addressed

either the passive quell on the weapons nerfed or something

[supple skiff]

think its pretty funny first 2 listed fixes are psyker nerfs

[long wharf]

no reason for the psyker to be as tanky as an ogryn

[jovial frigate]

KD psyker still a better rezzer by it existing tho

[long wharf]

not nerfs, fixes

[rocky cedar]

Also Psyker benefits from plenty of things this patch

[magic burrow]

https://puu.sh/Jxz9z/d2d8e2aa71.png

[long wharf]

sadly, I don't think this patch is going to bring many people back to the game

[supple skiff]

nor should it

[rocky cedar]

Slaughterer FS (or anything really) is gonna be hella strong now

[supple skiff]

they have a lot of work to do before they ought to earn back any good will

[rocky cedar]

This patch overall exceeded my expectations and is a step in the right direction

[light quail]

still a good omen though

nice patch

[uneven drift]

Sure not. Because it's just some bugfixes and balance chages. The game is still rng based around core gameplay loop.

[light quail]

hoping they get to some talent reworks soon
I have an idea or two in mind for psyker

[jovial frigate]

Fixed issue where the Rifthaven Mk II Purgatus Force Staff and Artemia Mk III Purgation Flamer burst flame attacks would not hit enemies if aborted too early.

Run 'n gun purg users will enjoy this

[light quail]

cerebral lacerations base kit and replace it with BB scaling (faster + cheaper BBs with more warp charges)

[long wharf]

we aren't going to see a balance pass or mechanics adjustment for a while, I think

they have more important things to fix still, like the entire crafting system

[rapid flicker]

would this help with the r purge glitch

[light quail]

fair

[supple skiff]

add

[jovial frigate]

prolly

[rapid flicker]

hope they don’t patch it as it’s kinda cool

[long wharf]

someone needs to test the BB targeting changes

I'm hoping it actually prioritizes elites/specials now

[jovial frigate]

Fixed issue with some Force Staffs displaying the incorrect damage number in the weapon stat screen.

Thank god, now trauma staff users can no longer scream their staff does half the damage it should

[steel egret]

I also checked cosmetic clippings and didnt find anything I see on psyker fixed.

[light quail]

as a trauma user, im absolutely bouncing this patch
way lower peril cost and that

[supple skiff]

a fix that definetly need a month in the oven lol

[clear heath]

I'm gonna start playing with kinetic shield and see how much i miss KD
KD is making me want to avoid blocking as much as possible, which kinda defeats the purpose

[steel egret]

still there, after getting a fix that fixed the part above it they ignored that.

[long wharf]

trauma's biggest problems weren't the peril gain

[jovial frigate]

I missed that one, nice

[supple skiff]

https://prnt.sc/GebbvT6t7qqk

BB target still aint great

unless they only chaged railing stuff

[near wyvern]

@clear heath sweet, thanks for the footage.

[clear heath]

np

[light quail]

yeah
way it is now is much better though
lot of people overlook the stagger power on trauma

[cyan notch]

have u tried ressing in gunfire?

[long wharf]

I dislike the aiming mechanic

[supple skiff]

https://prnt.sc/3FAMszqihoNn

[long wharf]

I dislike enemies not taking damage and being thrown around

[light quail]

you can intercept a dog pounce, onetap a burster, put even the heaviest things on their arse

[supple skiff]

cant him through the 2 trash mobs to target gunner

[light quail]

trauma's whole MO is disruption

[long wharf]

dispersing a group is the worst thing to do when you have AoE on the team

[clear heath]

I assume it still works anyways. Gonna try doing it with just stamina to see how much it really matters

[jovial frigate]

traumas biggest problem is that it had too many problems, but seeing as a chunk of them are allegedly addressed in this patch it might have a lil something to work with

[rapid flicker]

you can do almost the same with purge

[long wharf]

flame/purge users want things to stay clumped together

[cyan notch]

first time i tried since patch and its not blocking anything at all

[long wharf]

ogryns with stubbers want things clumped together

[cyan notch]

this is an ultra mega nerf if intended

[long wharf]

having enemies clumped together means you know where they are and can corral them

dispersing the crowd is the last thing you want

[clear heath]

what the fuck

fatshark pls stop nerfing psyker

just leave it unchanged pls

[long wharf]

what the fuck

[clear heath]

do not touch the class

[floral solstice]

lmfao

[rapid flicker]

gonna have to redo the whole class here eventually lol

[long wharf]

oi vay, leave it to FartShart to break Deflector

[fringe ingot]

hooo boy kinetic deflection means quietude/non-force melee weapon setups are dead and my overall tankiness even with force swords got hammer nerfed

there goes ... two builds?

[long wharf]

yep, no more tanky psyker

quietude still good for void users with Transfer Peril

[rapid flicker]

purge psykers rn

[fringe ingot]

unfortunately its gone where we need it most, in melee...

[supple skiff]

wait wtf deflector doesnt block on rez now?

for fuck sakes

[fringe ingot]

void had 10% toughness on kill for hordes anyway so it didnt need the toughness help =/

[long wharf]

deflector seems to be broken, period

[long wharf]

file a bug report and link that

[jovial frigate]

uh

yo

[long wharf]

we need to flood FartShart with fresh bug reports

[rocky cedar]

I struggle to see how KD nerf entirely kills non force weapons

[long wharf]

it doesn't, just means we can't tank any more

[rocky cedar]

The passive venting rate regardless of KD is still super useful

[jovial frigate]

a full charge trauma is 23 peril now

and

[still hearth]

Meanwhile Zealot mostly buffed

[jovial frigate]

i think they decreased its charge time too

[long wharf]

unless you talk to knife zealots

[fringe ingot]

it does not kill the builds, it kills the non-force + quietude setups

[rocky cedar]

I get that much, I just don't like hyperbolic statements

[clear heath]

yeah it's fucked for me too

psyker fucked lmao

[still hearth]

They're idiots so it's ok

[fringe ingot]

you passive quell faster with non-force weapons, so you run quietude and have a tanky melee build

[long wharf]

but.. I liked zooming around and stabbing with the knife >>

[rocky cedar]

Those do not rely on KD to be worthwhile

[still hearth]

Literally nothing stops you from doing that

[cyan notch]

bruhhhhhh

[long wharf]

I'll still run my combat axe with surge

[rocky cedar]

I'll still be absolutely running non force melee with quietude on a bunch of my builds

So Trauma's peril gen got basically halved eh

[long wharf]

oh, and not being stamina stunned while peril blocking is a good thing

[still hearth]

Deflector being shadow fixed on ress

[rocky cedar]

I genuinely already liked trauma but won't complain about getting to use it twice as much

[magic burrow]

This company drives me to drink. How can people be this incompetent.

[rapid flicker]

i smoke weed

[fringe ingot]

i mean sure, it's not like we have many choices, but it is a significant reduction in efficacy however you look at it - you're gonna take off kinetic deflection and block with stam alone? or you're gonna stop blocking?

[clear heath]

Doesn't have anything to do with Kinetic deflection either. I took it off and i have full stamina here and a shooter destroyed me

[zinc ether]

So, what's the word, we big mad?

[supple skiff]

Sweden must have great labour laws

[clear heath]

Deflector is just dead

[rocky cedar]

Haven't played with the changes yet so will have to see if KD still feels worth it to me

[clear heath]

on revives

[rapid flicker]

just dodge

[rocky cedar]

Doesn't still give you more effective time to res since it eats peril then stamina?

[cyan notch]

yea ultra nerf

[magic burrow]

fresh hotfix patch coming next week, reduced psyker dodge range by 90%

[fringe ingot]

think you're confusing kinetic deflection with deflector

[clear heath]

Can't block bullets anymore with deflector on revives
For melee sure, but idc about that tbh

[orchid nest]

damn the warp charge gain with purg and ab is way more often now

[fringe ingot]

deflector flat out doesnt block bullets on revives

[still hearth]

Deflector working on ress was probably a bug

[rocky cedar]

Oh you're right I misunderstood

[still hearth]

Fatshark just fixed bugs, yknow

[magic burrow]

did one of you guys sleep with the lead dev's wife or something

[rapid flicker]

try with flayer feat and see if you notice a difference

[long wharf]

are you sure? how many times have you tested?

[rapid flicker]

should help with bb procs

[orchid nest]

alright let me see

[clear heath]

It isn't worth pausing peril quell for multiple seconds to block a small hit imo, and you shouldn't need to be blocking a bunch of hits unless you're reviving
But revives are nerfed too so idc anymore
I'll just take kinetic shield

[rapid flicker]

if you work together as a team… you’ll never go down

[clear heath]

Half the time i'm blocking a bunch of hits, it's to buy time for peril quell for quietude regen
There goes that i guess

[bleak tulip]

Fixed issue where 'Ascendant Blaze' sometimes wouldn't trigger on the kill of the Purgatus staffs.

hey look I wasnt crazy, this shit just didnt work sometimes after all

[rapid flicker]

purge psyker buff?

o lawd hur i com

[long wharf]

it still feels weak, though

I still dislike primary fire

[rapid flicker]

r glitch with flayer feat dawg

you can kill specials in a second or two

and multiple specials at that within seconds

[zealous merlin]

Rip psytank

[still hearth]

Oh yeah

I think I know why Deflector break

[clear heath]

well now that psyker's survivability got nerfed
when are they gonna buff psyker to actually become a glass cannon?

[bleak tulip]

why cant one of these bugs be "fixed BB not scaling with difficulty" instead of "nerfed BB again by deactivating feats when switching away from another weapon so BB doesnt get any power bonus again"

[clear heath]

still wondering where the cannon part is

got the glass

[still hearth]

It's the "fixed blessings staying active when you're not wielding the weapon" part

Technically you don't have your melee out when you ress

[magic burrow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhckuhUxcgA

[bleak tulip]

Fixed issue where some blessings could be active when weapon was not wielded.

[rapid flicker]

with 15% special cooldown feat it synergizes well

[orchid nest]

yeah it's pretty interesting. will have to test more

[long wharf]

they have to ensure the glass part works properly first

[upper harbor]

Trauma feels so nice now. One more reason to never use the boring purge staff again.

[supple skiff]

wait did they remove slaughter buffing other shit now

[long wharf]

they did a pass on all the blessings, looks like

to ensure they don't operate when they shouldn't

you know what, I bet weapon blocking while ressing someone was unintended

[orchid nest]

yeah that should be fixed.. should. on the other hand it says power should correctly also buff cleave and stagger now so that should be cool for slaughterer fs

[magic burrow]

they couldve made the trauma staff cost zero peril and it would still be the worst staff by a long shot

[uneven drift]

It was a mechanic straight from VT2.

[upper harbor]

Trauma is fine

[clear heath]

Before, i think the classes were all pretty fair with how they all had insane abusable survivability tools

• Zealot had 75% crit dr
• Vet has vet toughness and ranged DR
• Psyker had peril block
• I'm not gonna pretend ogryn is a real class

but anyways, now psyker lost it's broken tool. Now we're just paper for no reason

It wasn't even as insane as the other two classes
zealot could literally just run into a horde with no brain and vet is vet