get up where
#psyker-class
cyan notch
ornate hamlet
And 0 cleave
near wyvern
get up where
To 31 stacks
cyan notch
meat grinder
near wyvern
Crusher?
summer prairie
pretty easy in the grinder with 5-2 and crusher
cyan notch
yes
near wyvern
Coolio, will double check tomorrow and add it to the Atheneum with attribution to you
cyan notch
ascendant blaze is a little weird when it adds or refreshes it does less damage at 31 stacks than kinetic overload (ticks for 28dmg at max stacks compared to 31dmg for overload)
and if u get to 31 stacks with overload then use AB it will overwrite the overload's 31 damage with its own weaker 28 damage
near wyvern
That's weird
summer prairie
are you sure you weren't getting power from your staff or something
cyan notch
my staff has unarmoured and crit chance and melee has crit chance and stam
its quite strange u can test and see for yourselves
ornate hamlet
Make sure to unselect all feats that aren't required for the build
Just in case something is fucky
near wyvern
@cyan notch based on the formula 27.5 should be the predicted 31 stack damage for soulblaze on crusher, which should show 28 in meat grinder
ornate hamlet
Otherwise š¤·āāļø
summer prairie
but you get +10 elite damage
near wyvern
That is including 10 elite
cyan notch
kinetic overload stacking gets to 31 damage at 31 stacks
near wyvern
Did you have warp charges?
summer prairie
probably warp charges yes
cyan notch
thats probably it actually
ornate hamlet
Now we just need a weapon that applies Brittleness and we can burn everything
cyan notch
ok problem solved
near wyvern
With 31 stacks and 4 warp charges formula says 30.8 damage per tick against a crusher so that would show as 31
cyan notch
yea then when i cast blaze it goes away
near wyvern
Yup
cyan notch
now this is quite a sheesher
near wyvern
now this is quite a sheesher
Can't get much more damage out than that
Fingers crossed for the blessings
cyan notch
im not upgrading anything till fs nerfs costs or finishes crafting
if i dont upgrade it cant be ruined
sacred field
Is pick n mix penance broken? I definitely got 5 in a row in under 12s but it hasnt updated
cyan notch
near wyvern
I am rolling in an effort to find a Bloodthirsty FS
shadow onyx
im not upgrading anything till fs nerfs costs or finishes crafting
next week both perks locked
near wyvern
oof
cyan notch
you basically have 0% chance getting it from a blue
so you have to do all the way to purple
near wyvern
You sure?
cyan notch
and then gamble it from purple to orange
near wyvern
I have seen images from purples with it
cyan notch
i am not sure but it sure as hell seems like it that you only ever get t2 max from blues
cyan notch
I have seen images from purples with it
yea those spawn with it like melk or emp gifts
ornate hamlet
0.00001% during crafting
near wyvern
I am not going to freaking roll all those blues to purples oranges lol
ornate hamlet
Fatshark special
safe crystal
Best perks for this?
cyan notch
I am not going to freaking roll all those blues to ~~purples~~ oranges lol
exactly the cost is way too exorbitant for the time u spend collecting mats
near wyvern
Best perks for this?
Transfer Peril 3% or better is all you need.
shadow onyx
i'd rather doubling the price of changing perk and not have one locked than this shitty locked perk stuff
near wyvern
It wouldn't be as bad if the shop was not filled with 300 to 330 stuff
cyan notch
i'd rather doubling the price of changing perk and not have one locked than this...
they said meaningful choices with strategy behind them (aka pray u get lucky with rng from melk or emp gifts which are capped btw)
near wyvern
The shop should roll with +/- 10 from your highest obtained in each slot (melee, ranged, curio)
I really would like to know how the hell the posts like these ended up in the features we got
cyan notch
randomisation and repetitive action is literally what happens when rerolling at hadron/checking melk/checking shop/hoping u get lucky with emp gifts
absolutely bizarre
straight up 180 lie
shadow onyx
ornate hamlet
"We didn't want to release the crafting system before it was finished so that our players would be satisfied with it."
gilded cloud
yea those spawn with it like melk or emp gifts
How frequent are those even? Haven't gotten one in forever...
shadow onyx
imagine doing that kind of lies in other jobs :
fresh reef
fuck shotgunners
that is all
shadow onyx
true
cyan notch
How frequent are those even? Haven't gotten one in forever...
20 per week but resets when melk resets
fresh reef
they're snipers with a dead quiet telegraph that can delete you even harder
fresh reef
winning a run is reward enough for me
it's like a gambling addiction with how bad my pugs usually are
cyan notch
at least dont be so fuckin stingy that you cap emp gifts to 20 per week
ornate hamlet
https://youtu.be/gUq5hKEtIJI
Isn't it good that the game saved you
From a fall you could've easily lived
gilded cloud
20 per week but resets when melk resets
20? Really? I played like 15 missions already this week (after contracts reset) and I have not gotten one at all. Is there a trigger?
cyan notch
20? Really? I played like 15 missions already this week (after contracts reset) ...
i dont think so you must be pretty unlucky
gilded cloud
summer prairie
Might be a bug, besides the cap/softcap, saw some reports
Might fix itself next week...
pale basalt
<cough>hopium!
ornate hamlet
wet belfry
https://youtu.be/gUq5hKEtIJI
On a side note how do you actually hear anything like hounds and mutants?
cyan notch
i was counting the gifts i got last week and the week before that and it was about 20 then nothing for days till reset then it dropped like candy right on cue
wet belfry
Your audio thing for the psyker at 96 peril is really really high.
wanton cove
at least dont be so fuckin stingy that you cap emp gifts to 20 per week
Is that a thing???
If so thatās BS
cyan notch
absolutely multiple people have reported the same thing
wanton cove
Thatās trash WTF
cyan notch
either that or the diminishing returns after 20 is so high that you basically get nothing
wanton cove
Yeah letās get more people to play while our player base is already fuming by capping the rng normally already trash gifts from our 30 minutes runs š¤”
cyan notch
if you keep track youll notice after weekly reset youll get a bunch then itll abruptly stop for days until the next weekly reset
wanton cove
Iāll definitely be keeping track now
cyan notch
Iāll definitely be keeping track now
https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/zkb71e/i_recorded_the_outcomes_of_my_last_90_missions/
this post was what made me track and get similar results
cyan portal
Is it possible to get Transfer Peril on Purge staff. It is listed on darkmass, but has anyone actually seen it? I know they're inaccurate on other blessing possibilities.
wet jacinth
Isnt that one Voidstrike/Trauma
cyan notch
Is it possible to get Transfer Peril on Purge staff. It is listed on darkmass, b...
probably fake since purg cant even hit weakspots but in the 0.000001% chance its real nobody has seen it yet
wet jacinth
Then again I don't use Darkmass
Nor do I know if the gameslantern one is anymore accurate or not
uneven drift
Yeah, thank you, Emprah.
uneven drift
Yeah, i know.
cyan portal
Which blessings are considered bis for purge?
still hearth
Which blessings are considered bis for purge?
The crit chance one
wet jacinth
Trauma will be buffed next week
Side effect: Inflict PTSD to enemies and they cower in fear
uneven drift
Problem is, this is my 3rd 375+ staff and it's 3rd trauma
cyan notch
Which blessings are considered bis for purge?
warp nexus then idk flurry or focused channelling
wanton cove
Side effect: Inflict PTSD to enemies and they cower in fear
Theyāre so shook at the cajones needed to run Trauma the enemies just run š¤£
wet jacinth
warp nexus then idk flurry or focused channelling
I guess with my playstyle I'd prefer terrifying barrage
With nexus
Focused channeling I feel is just failure to position/dodge. While flurry is nice. I don't find myself charging purgatus multiple times enough to reap the benefits
cyan notch
I guess with my playstyle I'd prefer terrifying barrage
cloud radius already supresses enemies so its kinda not that useful
wanton cove
I sometimes charge multiple times durin heavy waves on 4
summer prairie
you can't really dodge melee while holding the staff
wet jacinth
you can't really dodge melee while holding the staff
You can if you time it correctly
cyan notch
if you go in the meat grinder and blast beside some adds youll see them cowering already
wet jacinth
Too early or late and you get hit
wanton cove
My staff has crit and barrage. I donāt notice barrage that much but I donāt try to play around it that well tbh š¬
summer prairie
but dodging doesn't stop tracking when you are wielding a ranged weapon. Anyway, it is definitely more useful than the other options
wet jacinth
cloud radius already supresses enemies so its kinda not that useful
I would just prefer bigger AoE of it I should say
summer prairie
I only dodge slide
cyan notch
sit there and tank the hit and hope essence harvest covers your ass
still hearth
Ew
wet jacinth
In my experience. Rarely anyone dodges well while holding ranged weapons
wet jacinth
Then again people also just swap to melee and dodge/attack real quick
wanton cove
Horde clear is a team effort
Laughs in pub
still hearth
Laughs in pub
Nothing can save some pubs
cyan notch
Nothing can save some pubs
not with that attitude
still hearth
I only need a team when I'm downed
fresh reef
On a side note how do you actually hear anything like hounds and mutants?
I use my ears how do you mean?
still hearth
Sounds are clipping in this game
And they're louder for the one currently targeted
But hounds often suddenly swap targets
fresh reef
And they're louder for the one currently targeted
I've never noticed that
good to keep in mind
still hearth
It's not confirmed but it definitely seems that way
Could be copium
But a few people agree
I've had muties run past me almost silently but sometimes hear them across the map when they're coming for me
fresh reef
could just be the l4d2 talking, but I can always hear specials
sometimes though, they just don't make noise
for no discernible reason
cyan notch
except snipers when they spawn
unless youre really near them then you can hear them walking
wanton cove
Or the poxbursters you hear right away but take years to reach you lol
Unless they decide to just exit the doorway your in front of with no warning andā¦RIP š¬
fresh reef
Unless they decide to just exit the doorway your in front of with no warning and...
suicide by longlas to the back of the head
so sad
bold flint
Trauma will be buffed next week
christmas, just a week away
oh wow, it got here so fast
still hearth
for no discernible reason
The game actually clips audio
If there's too much sound going on
still hearth
Or the poxbursters you hear right away but take years to reach you lol
This is actually a bug and you can easily replicate it
fresh reef
voidstrike moment
still hearth
They don't make sounds if you're in certain areas
100% of the time you can't hear them in one part of the Repair mission
Unless you move from the room the door is in
You can move back and forth and the sound cuts
sly anvil
I have 480 force sword with deflection and maximum +25 block. But it has poor quell should I upgrade? Or try for a new one
still hearth
It is? I thought force swords didn't get it
But also nah, you could just have a staff with quell speed if you want it
sly anvil
Sometimes it does sum times it doesnāt
summer prairie
Can you post a screenshot of this FS
sly anvil
Not at the moment Iām at school š
placid stratus
cyan notch
theres only +20% block and theres no quell on fs
summer prairie
Plus if it's a 480, it should be orange already
sly anvil
It has a 4 square on block
I thought that was 25 but it may be 20
And itās a blessing that quells on weak spot hit
But itās only 2% not 5
sly anvil
Yes
I donāt know what to get on it tbh other then stamina but my curios give me a ton of block efficiency already so I donāt need it
cyan notch
flak maniac
sly anvil
MANIAC good idea
Another question bc Iām new here
I have great perks on my surge staff but my quell speed is do shit 50%. I have the warp flurry and itās purple should I make it yellow
worthy wedge
I rarely don't hear specials. Snipers (obviously) and the occasional flamer doesn't make their click until they seem to be fully spawned in.
shadow onyx
I rarely don't hear specials. Snipers (obviously) and the occasional flamer does...
dog too
worthy wedge
I think I always hear dogs? I'll have to pay attention, but I don't think I've ever seen someone jumped by a dog I hadn't already heard.
cyan notch
you can hear snipers running around
still hearth
I hear one bark just as it lunges
worthy wedge
That's maybe true. I'll pay special attention to dog spawns, but yeah the howl can sound kinda similar to horde "roar".
valid fern
Is a lasgun build viable? What feats do people pick?
arctic roost
lasgun builds? Go veteran
pale basalt
lots of jerks like to shit on it but just be aware you don't have great cc
columnus works better imho
or use an MK IV with headpop feat
tickle guns with high rof proc it better
valid fern
Whatās a tickle gun?
lethal folio
VId lasgun
pale basalt
braced auto is okay but I like the columnus the most, recoil takes management tho
take a claw or maybe a duelling sword
lethal folio
If you're taking a gun I would use force sword.
pale basalt
I just use BB for hard targets, dueling works well if you get them nekkid ragers.
near wyvern
Is a lasgun build viable? What feats do people pick?
It is. You want to have FS or Combat Axe for melee. Feats are really flexible since there is not a lot going for guns.
You can do the basic BB build - 132133 or you can do the AB nade build - 131112.
MG IV has more mobility and better ammo economy with greater fire rate but lesser punch per bullet. MG1a has constant damage for infested and unarmoured regardless of range. MG XII has inverse scaling and does more damage at further ranges, it's the only one capable of one shotting ranged heads at damnation.
On damnation you pretty much need an infantry lasgun, the others won't have the ammo sustain that is needed.
lament topaz
Gun Psyker is slightly less fun than LARPing as Palpatine.
shadow onyx
but if you read some guys in general, it cant be devs fault, only bad corporate who told devs to put useless barrel everywhere that jump you from miles and do shit against foes
pale basalt
Everyone's got opinions, I have a blast
lament topaz
Werenāt people in general also asking whoās dick theyād have to suck to get an update and fawning about a devās armpits?
pale basalt
I'd rather have a convo with them in a dark alley
lament topaz
At least in the dark alley you can cover up the evidence.
shadow onyx
valid fern
It is. You want to have FS or Combat Axe for melee. Feats are really flexible si...
thank you!
crude talon
Gun Psyker is slightly less fun than LARPing as Palpatine.
I am the Senate.
lament topaz
Perchance.
magic burrow
If Im the senate then I demand my ability to corkscrew spin twirl jump thirty feet
crude talon
I think a gun psyker build can work if you have a fast firing gun that is basically gonna give you range and BBs. But it just feels bad. Iām assuming there will be a psyker class that has an emphasis on guns in the future (read: 2057) but right now the purge and surge staffs are so useful that itās a shame to not take them
near wyvern
I think a gun psyker build can work if you have a fast firing gun that is basica...
There is no point in trying to pick a fast fire rate gun just for kinetic flayer. Kinetic flayer is nothing more than a stack generation / upkeep feat. The internal cool down is too large to make a build around it.
crude talon
More pew pew, more chance for BB. Less pew pew, less chance for BB. Is my point
near wyvern
If I would have to rate psyker builds, they would be:
- Purge & Surge
- Void & Crucian Knife BB
- Gun Psyker
- Trauma
near wyvern
More pew pew, more chance for BB. Less pew pew, less chance for BB. Is my point
Yes but 15 seconds internal cd makes it irrelevant. More pew pew doesn't matter when your weapon says click click because it ran out of ammo. That's my point.
magic burrow
They should either make Void a copy of the Plasma Gun with equal damage instead of literally half, or they should make the area of effect more significant.
crude talon
A faster firing rate means youāre going to get that BB in 15-20 seconds instead of a lower rate of fire/lower reload speed weapon giving you a bb every 25-30 seconds and potentially stopping your stacks. Iām not saying run around all game wasting ammo, of course you have to worry about the CD lol
magic burrow
Right now Void is a very fun Malice weapon, but in Heresy/Damnation it suffers too much from being a DPS focused weapon with no DPS.
safe pendant
Gun psyker feels like copium
near wyvern
That single BB doesn't do enough when you are facing 5 Ragers, 2 crushers 3 bulwarks 2 gunners and 2 tox flamers. It doesn't matter if you pop it now or in 5 seconds, it's not significant enough DPS to make a build around just that.
magic burrow
I think the point of gun psyker wouldnt be to optimize the DPS, but to increase the odds of having it proc on the enemy you want
near wyvern
Hence you treat kinetic flayer just as a better and more reliable psychic communion
magic burrow
instead of on a random poxbabby stumbling into range of your surge and getting insta disintegrated into a fine mist instead of having it proc on the crusher youre actually targeting
crude talon
That 5 seconds could be the difference between you getting fucked by all those elites or killing one. But ok. Lol
near wyvern
If you are hanging by one random BB proc, the problem is somewhere else mate š
crude talon
I think the point of gun psyker wouldnt be to optimize the DPS, but to increase ...
Yea I mean youāre gonna have potatoes firing into hordes but I think you could do it well
magic burrow
I have to agree with the guy that making a build around a 10% proc chance seems kinda silly though
crystal hemlock
I have to agree with the guy that making a build around a 10% proc chance seems ...
Becasue it is
sacred monolith
Got a Psyker build guide here. I run tests and video comparisons. I also discovered that radius on the purgatus staff is actually range:
magic burrow
then again that seems to go for most Psyker feats for some reason. Real Casino Class in a Casino game
near wyvern
Got a Psyker build guide here. I run tests and video comparisons. I also discove...
Cloud radius increases range and radius
crude talon
I donāt know why yāall think I want to place the whole build around that one feat I didnāt say that
Just pointed out the advantage of having a faster firing gun for that.
near wyvern
You were arguing for faster fire rate guns (auto / recon) but they don't simply have the ammo economy to be played as a proper gun psyker at damnation
pure lion
I think the point of gun psyker wouldnt be to optimize the DPS, but to increase ...
The point of a gun psycher is to grief the veterans on your team by taking all the ammo
crude talon
Truuuu
sacred monolith
Cloud radius increases range and radius
I put two clips and overlaid them and saw no difference, but range I did
crystal hemlock
If the argument to be made is, "Faster firing gun means you get that BB proc off." You would want to use your staves over actual guns every time.
crude talon
If the argument to be made is, "Faster firing gun means you get that BB proc off...
YUH OF COURSE
crystal hemlock
So its not really an advantage then to have a faster firing gun if you are better off taking the staff.
magic burrow
The point of a gun psycher is to grief the veterans on your team by taking all t...
whatever the name of that shop-guy is, he's probably in on the scheme. Handing us all the veterans hand-me-downs
near wyvern
The point of a gun psycher is to grief the veterans on your team by taking all t...
I have played a round of damnation without picking any ammo using MG IV infantry lasgun. As long as you have a vet in your team and BB those elites and specials whenever you can, you get a lot ammo back on it.
crude talon
So its not really an advantage then to have a faster firing gun if you are bette...
People were talkin specifically about gun psykers. Thatās what I was talking about.
Obviously staffs arenāt an equation in that convo
near wyvern
I put two clips and overlaid them and saw no difference, but range I did
I believe the radius is for supression
crystal hemlock
Yeah and my point is, why? Gun pysker is stupid beyond words considering your staff also benifits from damage boosts to warp attacks.
crystal hemlock
crude talon
This is why sometimes you see a vet with another melee other than a power sword lol
pure lion
Yeah imo do what makes you have fun, but most of the time Iāve encountered a gun psycher in game itās been suboptimal and actively made the game less fun for their team mates
near wyvern
It is sub optimal
pure lion
If you want to shoot guns, play a vet. Itās not that hard to level one up
near wyvern
If you wanna play optimal you play Purge or Surge and that's the only thing you gonna play
crystal hemlock
At least with the vet you can make the argument for using other weapons if you have the right perks is the thing though.
Like i have a chain sword and ignores enemy mass, and does 170% Cleave damage on hitting multiple enemies for 3 seconds, its jsut a better power sword so.
pure lion
Itās like playing a ranged ogryn. Can you do it? Sure. Butā¦ why?
crude talon
For fun.
safe pendant
Shovel more satisfying
near wyvern
For memes
crude talon
Ye might as well meme before the game dies
crystal hemlock
I mean sure for fun, but, hell i can use the plasma for fun but does not mean its a good idea thats for damn sure.
pure lion
Lol fair enough I guess. I just hope I donāt end up in a PUG with people running memebuilds
near wyvern
My greatest meme was completing a high intensity damnation with an FS and a revolver. I got carried quite hard by an ogryn. I basically cosplayed his shoe.
pure lion
Memebuilds are for low-difficulty runs where youāre just farming scriptures/grims for Melk
crude talon
If youāre still struggling so much you NEED the most optimal build then, idk.
near wyvern
Lol fair enough I guess. I just hope I donāt end up in a PUG with people running...
Ooh shiit, better hide my trauma staff
crude talon
My greatest meme was completing a high intensity damnation with an FS and a revo...
Is your name Vengeance on your psyker?
crystal hemlock
Lol fair enough I guess. I just hope I donāt end up in a PUG with people running...
I mean if they dont offer us a way to meaningfully progress in the game? Its going to be that. Because even if xyz is the optimal staff you are left to RNG that you get it, terrible RNG at that too.
near wyvern
Is your name Vengeance on your psyker?
No it's Pygex
crude talon
Ok. Iāve carried this useless fucking revolver psyker through 3 damnations and I want to go to his house and treat his mom to a steak dinner because of it.
near wyvern
Here is the only situation where trauma actually excels. Trash jumping down from a platform causes them all to go within each others:
(Difficulty was damnation)
red wind
lol the gunpsyker discussions are still afoot all these days later
twilit flicker
I'd fight with a shoe if the emperor gave me some
near wyvern
I just don't get it why they took the shotgun away
safe pendant
pale basalt
The emperor wouldn't give me all these +500 guns and shitty staves if he didn't want me to use the guns
crude talon
Right?
pure lion
RNG sucks, but it doesnāt require having absolutely optimal stat rolls & blessings in order to have a staff that works fine on all difficulties.
At this point I have about 55 hours played on my psycher and I have two decent Purg staffs and one great one, plus a decent surge staff. And I donāt do the browser extention to check the shop or anything like that.
red wind
I just don't get it why they took the shotgun away
not that the shotguns are any good honestly
pure lion
The emperor wouldn't give me all these +500 guns and shitty staves if he didn't ...
On the other hand, this is a good counterargument š¤£
near wyvern
not that the shotguns are any good honestly
It doesn't matter if it's any good. I just want to look good and meme the shit out of the game
crude talon
I pretty much only use purge/FS and dueling sword and surge
red wind
also tbf if you wanna play guns then you might as well run a vet because there is nothing that benefits you from using guns as psyker
rare furnace
Is the level 30 talent on faster bb good?
dull haven
RNG sucks, but it doesnāt require having absolutely optimal stat rolls & blessin...
Lol your RNG sucks? Well I just used up all of mine on this shit yesterday
2 380s
rare furnace
Iām 28 rn
near wyvern
I pretty much only use purge/FS and dueling sword and surge
You gotta try the knife mate. The push attack spam is real.
red wind
Is the level 30 talent on faster bb good?
ascendant blaze for a purgatus build, kinetic barrage for anything else
near wyvern
And they are devil's claws
crude talon
You gotta try the knife mate. The push attack spam is real.
I got a decent one but
I like using class specific weapons
near wyvern
ascendant blaze for a purgatus build, kinetic barrage for anything else
And quicken for trauma staff build but don't use trauma unless you know what you are asking for
rare furnace
ascendant blaze for a purgatus build, kinetic barrage for anything else
I got no good purgatous flame stuff
Yet
red wind
quicken kinda sucks imo
crude talon
I got a 380 base purge staff itās pretty great
red wind
as does the trauma staff
crude talon
With that 80 BURN BABY
red wind
why wind up for 10 seconds to stun when you can wind up to kill
rare furnace
How many does the elector stuff hit
pure lion
Hereās what Iām running. Itās not maxed out or perfect, but itās just fine
rare furnace
Flame stuff hits everyone I think
red wind
i missed such a good purgatus bevause i didnāt grind the game enough lol and then it rotated out of requisitions
crude talon
Warp res is the dump stat on purge staffs and I wonāt negotiate that
red wind
does the blessing which allows you to hipfire while sprinting roll on staves?
near wyvern
quicken kinda sucks imo
Trauma with 312331 is relatively good with quicken.
red wind
never liked it personally
maybe thatās because i dropped it as soon as i got another staff lol
near wyvern
does the blessing which allows you to hipfire while sprinting roll on staves?
Yes but LMB only and you have to sprint first then you can fire. Decent on Purgatus, irrelevant on anything else.
red wind
but i am not a fan of the way it plays
plus void staff
i wish there was another force sword mk because the attack pattern is so so
it just looks cool which is why i use it sometimes
crude talon
anyone else have a 380 roll gray youāre afraid to upgrade?
red wind
but honestly deflector is overrated you ideally shouldnāt be getting shot at anyway
pure lion
It would be great it there were other Force Weapon types
red wind
yeah
crude talon
Deflector is based
red wind
a force greatsword or some shit which is two handed
near wyvern
i wish there was another force sword mk because the attack pattern is so so
Yup. Need a horizontal one. Preferably a 2 hander.
red wind
i just want a greatsword in this game
pure lion
but honestly deflector is overrated you ideally shouldnāt be getting shot at any...
Iāve found it situationally very usefully to close the distance against gunners when Iām running purg.
crude talon
Deflector is based because when the shitter vet on your team gets downed 9 times to pox walkers then you donāt have to get shot by all the gunners they arenāt killing
red wind
to be honest horizontal attacks on heavy kinda suck most of the time, i prefer the CC attacks to be the light ones
pure lion
Thereās a few particular maps where deflector shines imo; and other maps less so
red wind
just because the windup usually gets me hit
the good thing about deflector is the bonus to block efficiency + the fact the force sword has a 360 degree push and unlimited dodges
so itās like a budget ogryn shield
crude talon
Heavy overhead on FS Is the best. Headshot charge attacks
red wind
but honestly in the time it takes you to block ranged units you could just build to 70% peril and be basically invulnerable
pure lion
Not gonna lie, charging the force sword while sliding always makes me feel badass
red wind
the animations are cool but it kinda sucks for defending yourself
psykers should generally have good CC weapons because your single target is the BB
north cradle
A Force Glaive that would be a homologue to the Power Sword would be neat
red wind
i personally run a mk 2 duelling sword with a flame staff, youād be surprised how good the duelling sword block is
trim pawn
The psyker already have the rapiĆØre, maybe the most powerfull mele weapon in the game...
pure lion
Deflector FS is also good for when youāre loading into a ongoing game and you have no idea what is happening, to avoid being instantly downed because they are in the middle of an overpull
red wind
i think the duelling sword is more of a sabre as opposed to a rapier
north cradle
More of an ƩpƩe since it stabs and slashes
magic burrow
I like the dueling sword. I love roleplaying a blender.
red wind
true
it has surprisingly good crowd control considering it uses the assassin attack patterns
trim pawn
Your right it's more a sabre but rapiĆØre sound cooler š
pure lion
What are the best blessings for the dueling sword?
red wind
shred or whatever one grants you damage on hit i forgor
or the one that i creases your cleave that oneās alright too
pale basalt
this one is okay-
maiden wolf
A Force Glaive that would be a homologue to the Power Sword would be neat
i've actually got a concept for that ready to go
north cradle
I think having a Force Glaive which is meant to act like the Power Sword, and a Force Greatsword which combines big sweeps of this hypothetical Force Glaive, with the single target special of the Force Sword, would be a happy medium
ornate hamlet
You requested a Psyker my lord
boreal cave
wtb bolt and coruscation staffs
wet cedar
Behold.
steel vapor
Any way i can justify using this on my psyker?
devout axle
wet cedar
Good rolls, not a huge fan of accatrans without the base ammo bonus from vet , and sustained fire is pants
I have adhd I'm not cropping a screenshot to brag
Still searching for my chainsword hubby to complete the set, mama needs her cleave stacks
hoary hearth
Which dueling sword is considered the best?
north cradle
Windows-Shift-S
supple skiff
the silence has been broken siblings
wet cedar
Ugh then I gotta find it and drag it over to discord, you're adding steps when the information is right there
split oxide
Can anyone do Flawless Execution Penance with a psyker anymore ?
I feel every few games it .. reallllly wants to break your run.
Do you have to do it as another class.
north cradle
It copies to clipboard
wet cedar
OK, anyway gonna go sprint at heretics
north cradle
Can anyone do Flawless Execution Penance with a psyker anymore ?
I feel every fe...
I just do it with Ogryn
I got 12 in a row last time
split oxide
ta
north cradle
Big health is big help
ornate hamlet
I once heard psyker interacting friendly with zealot and had zealot which was friendly to psykersā¦ mind helping me understand how to make such characters?
north cradle
Savant Psyker and Judge Zealot maybe?
ornate hamlet
No itās not about main archetype itās more related to the background it seems
north cradle
Maybe you both need to be from the shrine world
ornate hamlet
Maybe , tho I believe my psyker is from shrine world and she still despises zealots
north cradle
At no point ever have I even noticed anything that makes the background influence dialogue
ornate hamlet
I did
Quite a lot
Actually
My zealot judge from ocean world and with some things which I donāt remember was chanting commonly that pilot is pious woman and also was actually friendly to psykers , telling em that they do have purpose aswell and ā¦ also was friendly to abhumans
gilded cloud
Yay. Got my psyker to level 30 now. First character too. Now I can just wait for every hour for the shop... Lol
ornate hamlet
Yay. Got my psyker to level 30 now. First character too. Now I can just wait for...
laugh in 2 lv 30 characters being guard ā¦ I do wish there was bigger max characters limit
supple skiff
all that waiting just to hear "we dun goofed" lol
gilded cloud
*laugh in 2 lv 30 characters being guard* ā¦ I do wish there was bigger max chara...
I do not need more than 5 characters. Too much lol
supple skiff
at least the console ports are delayed
north cradle
Plot twist, you can't swap subclasses
Time to roll a new Biomancer
At least you won't have to do all the penances over again, so you can still have your cool hood
hoary hearth
At least you won't have to do all the penances over again, so you can still have...
But what if penances subclass specific?
north cradle
Then you still have the cosmetics from the old subclass that you can use on the new one
That's kind of how it works in Vermintide, right? There are some universal cosmetics for a character, even if some are career-specific?
I honestly never touched cosmetics in Vermintide 2
Ubersreik Five all looked just fine stock
magic burrow
did they really just need a month to say they were going to add crafting over the next couple of months
what the hell is this
lmao
north cradle
Next week just became next few months
magic burrow
What does next couple of months even mean? I'm so tired of this bullshit where they use so many words to effectively say nothing at all.
gilded cloud
Plot twist, you can't swap subclasses
I would be very upset
hoary hearth
That's a big nothingburger, all they said is that they are now focusing on crafting and endgame, but i hate the fact that they don't even give a some sort of timeline
crude talon
Plot twist, you can't swap subclasses
If I canāt swap subclasses I will be pissed off
hazy locust
yo im happy about the update, good news lads
north cradle
What does next couple of months even mean? I'm so tired of this bullshit where t...
At least two
hazy locust
admitting there is a problem is the first step to fixing it
safe pendant
Time to keep playing Darktide as is until then
magic burrow
"hey guys, sorry for shipping a busted game and then ignoring you for a full month. I just came here to tell you were going to ignore you for a couple more months."
safe pendant
And some other games on the side cough
hazy locust
actually really enjoying the game, excited to see some crafting and whats next
safe pendant
This game is one of my only outlets for socialization so there's that
atomic dagger
concerning the specialist specific resistances on curios: do these count only on health or also on toughness?
I have 3 curios with gunner resistance but my toughness still melts like butter :3
atomic dagger
This game is one of my only outlets for socialization so there's that
go out and say hello to other people, but not in a creepy way otherwise you might get some stalker charges
north cradle
Damage resistance is damage resistance, should be health and toughness
I ought to get a new Curio too, one of mine is DR/Mutants
atomic dagger
i think muti, flamer and dog dmg reistances are the least usefull
north cradle
Bomber
safe pendant
but imagine stacking dog resistance. You can speed ahead or get left behind and chewed on by the dog for hours
atomic dagger
meeeh dunno... sometimes you just open a door and 2 bombers jump into you
north cradle
What's the point of Bomber resistance when they drain your toughness instantly
No, not Poxbursters, Bombers
The grenadiers
safe pendant
Bomber resistance is probably for when they kick you when they get too close
north cradle
They can kick you?
atomic dagger
yes
safe pendant
it's their only melee attack
north cradle
Go figure
I have only gotten close to Bombers for the melee penance, and every time, I just ran up to them with my Force Sword charged to instagib them
atomic dagger
darthvadertheme.mp3
north cradle
More like Palpatine screech
west galleon
Any way i can justify using this on my psyker?
justify not using it š
north cradle
I think my Curios are going to be a +1 Wound and +40% health, then stack DR/Gunners, ult regen, and, what's a good third? More health?
steel vapor
justify *not* using it š
Psyker doesnt really have any gun synergy, and thus staffs are probably a better option ^^
steel vapor
That is a very good argument
safe pendant
I think my Curios are going to be a +1 Wound and +40% health, then stack DR/Gunn...
I like being a team player so I try to get revive speed
steel vapor
Btw is it staffs or staves?
north cradle
Staves
steel vapor
Fair
north cradle
Staffs is plural for groups of working people
atomic dagger
wow
thx metal troll mommy š¦
north cradle
I believe a working staff is called a staff because a flagstaff or walking staff is used in support of something.
steel vapor
wow
thx metal troll mommy š¦
I assume we get to re-allocate blessings on curios as well when crafting releases, no?
north cradle
That would be nice
steel vapor
It would make sense
atomic dagger
assume when
safe pendant
Gonna have to scroll for several minutes to find stuff to re-allocate when the time comes
north cradle
And also if we could combine Votive Blessings into +21% Health and +16% Toughness
steel vapor
assume when
Time is relative
north cradle
Allegedly someone has a +2 Wounds curio which works
atomic dagger
Time is relative
true we should travel at light speed for a couple of days and come back to earth when some months have past
north cradle
I distinctly remember the thread on R*ddit but I don't remember the OP
steel vapor
Altho i have seen pics of a few faked items around the web
atomic dagger
Altho i have seen pics of a few faked items around the web
shocking
but its on the internet so it must be true, right
i do hope they rework most of the blessings while they at it
some are just not useful at all
steel vapor
Limbsplitter cough cough
atomic dagger
i was told you can pair limbsplitter with a combat axe mk5 to become untouchable for hordes
steel vapor
Im not sure how limbsplitter would help in that regard
atomic dagger
you spam special push attack followed by 1 swing light attack if i remember correctly
steel vapor
In any case CAxe V is allready an S tier horde weapon with brutal momentum
It allready 1 shots poxwalkers so i think limbsplitter might not matter, at lease the one i have does
atomic dagger
i dont use it myself, not sure if it 1 shots on lvl5
steel vapor
But i guess that might not count as a chain
steel vapor
i dont use it myself, not sure if it 1 shots on lvl5
It does :p
atomic dagger
prob depends on the dmg %
north cradle
I tried the Mk V in the Meat Grinder, the push attack feels really weird
steel vapor
prob depends on the dmg %
Probably, i have a pretty high roll
north cradle
It seems short range but it hits a lot of enemies to your right
atomic dagger
Probably, i have a pretty high roll
if >80 then you = hax0r
steel vapor
I tried the Mk V in the Meat Grinder, the push attack feels really weird
Tbh the animation looks wonky, but in effect its just the same as a push-swipe so it works out
steel vapor
if >80 then you = hax0r
Either 79 pr 80 cant remember
steel vapor
Mistress hadron likes to see her slaves in pain
atomic dagger
i takes me like 1 week to get a +21% curio
rough egret
hadron why u hate me so much š¦
I havenāt seen anything over 16 in my shop
atomic dagger
20% is common when you are lvl30 henchman
but 21% is rare
technically it goes up to 25%
never seen that
safe pendant
My Psyker has been blessed with lots of toughness/stamina/wound curios but hardly any health ones
atomic dagger
wound is only good when you die
so dont die
safe pendant
If I die I take Atoma with me
slow karma
Ok FS...
I've got my eye on you. Don't fuck it up. Again.
Question - What do folks like to pair surge staves with in their kit?
safe pendant
Knife
slow karma
There's a good one in my shop and I'm gonna pick it up as a baseline to just learn the playstyle
knife ok.
magic burrow
dueling sword goes with everything
slow karma
...Look, I'm not here for memes. Path of Exile's chat is bad enough at that.
I'm asking for information, not jokes
safe pendant
Okay
magic burrow
If you want to be good at picking up downed people, use a Force Sword with deflector. The Force Sword also has a strong special attack, but regular melee suffers, and it being a force weapon means it's not very useful for the feat that lets you use peril instead of stamina while blocking, because force sword passively quells peril very slowly (youre meant to actively quell peril).
Combat axe supposedly is great at dealing with hordes. It has a very good push attack, though I havent really found a decent axe myself, so I havent tried that yet.
Dueling sword is a very good allrounder weapon that has a fast attack speed and excellent dodge effectiveness.
The knife is basically a dueling sword on crack, though you have to be more accurate to pick out the heads/weak spots .
slow karma
Yeah this tracks
magic burrow
In a nutshell, you use Force Sword if you dont care much about the lvl20 feat that allows you to use peril instead of stamina to block
slow karma
I don't have one with deflector yet
but I do have one of everything else
So I can poke around with those options
magic burrow
just run a couple games with any weapon and see which one fits you the best.
slow karma
I still like asking for outside preferences
tired estuary
With surge you probably want a melee weapon that handles hordes decently
slow karma
Just to steer to the ones that are generally well liked
tired estuary
FS is cool but pretty slow at that
slow karma
Yeah, FS would put you in a single target support role
tired estuary
And the point of surge is to put a big spotlight on ennemies for teammates to kill. It can set up a bit for yourself if need be but thats not what its really about
Antax combat axe is popular b/c having basically free push attack gives you very safe clear (not the fastest, just safest) and its a really well rounded weapon in general
When I still used surge I rocked a mk4 devil claw for a while, its not amazing but it does fine vs t5 hordes
slow karma
I do love me my antax
tired estuary
Oh and somebody said duelling sword, specifically mk5 is good
slow karma
Yeah I have one of those too
tired estuary
1st 2 lights are diagonal, push attack is good and it can roll rampage blessing and proc it easily
Also got big juicy overhead heavies so its still decent vs single target without needing fs charge time
dim summit
I'm not understanding something. When you pick up a teammate, are you autoblocking during that animation? Is that why Deflector helps?
tired estuary
Yeah deflector can block bullets during pickups when other classes would just eat them
dim summit
I didn't realize that. I wondered why I was able to pick up a guy the other day when nobody else could. I had just acquired a Force Sword with Deflector so that explains it!
frigid marten
deflector is directional so it's not working 360 against bullet. melee is always 360.
dim summit
Oh, nevermind. I also switched to the peril-instead of-stamina-while-blocking trait, so that was it more than Deflector.
noble kraken
solemn zenith
what tends to be the dump stat on staffs?
solemn zenith
what about fire and lighting?
crude talon
Surge dump stat is charge rate ironically enough
You use it for the CC so you want to be spamming it
And it generates tons of peril so you want warp res for more CC
wet jacinth
fresh reef
Anyone know why this happens? Is there a fix?
dry tide
looks like a bunch of screen overlays happening at once due to toughness getting broken over and over, acquiring warp charges, and being high peril all at once
clever walrus
Anyone know why this happens? Is there a fix?
iirc the game does weird things when you hit 0 toughness, which you're repeatedly hitting with the regen feat while getting shot at. Vet gets slapped with it too
slow karma
Man, these mutators on missions are just all exhausting
I'd love to play more than I do but I get like 2 missions in and I'm done
strange wigeon
would love to have the option to just turn it off like some of the approved mods did for VT2, first thing I did was remove all overcharge effects and sounds
would make playing psyker much more enjoyable
slow karma
I'm fine with those myself. I use those as a more overt indicator of my peril level
keeping numbers in front of me is a good way to turn me off of a game
I still pay attention to it but not exclusively
simply because I don't have to, nor want to
strange wigeon
yeah but that's why it would be nice if it was an option
so both me and you could have what we want
slow karma
Oh yeah, I'm just giving perspective
I wouldn't even be mad with them generally toned down
idle bay
The most sad part from open letter - no new absolutely ridiculous psyker outfits in cash store for couple more months (that i will buy and never wear anyway). In Fatshark mind they probably count as new content š
crude talon
After I got the penance chest itās all I wear but the blue shirt from the last psyker outfit is nice
idle bay
After I got the penance chest itās all I wear but the blue shirt from the last p...
Monstrum Malleus chest is the best! And recent gasmask with a collar is nice too.
crude talon
I donāt super like the dust mask from that set though. They always have those masks in games but without the second filter and as a painter I donāt like that lol
slow karma
The cosmetics would just go over poorly and they know it
That's the reason they're suspending them. Because people would just roit
idle bay
I donāt super like the dust mask from that set though. They always have those ma...
Since rejects have to deal with nurgle cultists - gasmask is a must-have! š
slow karma
We all know gamer masses know no decorum so
I'd love to know why they needed money so badly they just pushed this game
sage yacht
I'd love to know why they needed money so badly they just pushed this game
Because Money
slow karma
A lot of big budget shit does this nowadays. Something at the top end wants to stop the spending and start earning before their product deserves it
That's not an answer though
I know it's about money
sage yacht
Yes it really is
crude talon
Those types of masks irl have a second filter that clips on the outside. And i think if it was a gas mask it would cover the eyes too
weary moss
finished my staff last night.
slow karma
Were they in danger of running out? Was it costing more than they could manage to keep working on it?
crude talon
Since rejects have to deal with nurgle cultists - gasmask is a must-have! š
I like the silver skull mask on that chest piece
slow karma
There's no transparency about the financials in this shit and it's frustrating because it would actually help
idle bay
Recent Calisto Protocol made a MASSIVE disservice to gameing industry, Budget 160 millions - game is mediocre at best , on what money was spent is a huge question. After such a massive investment failure, all game studio will have their belts tied tighter.
And best part - they are unlikely to break even on that budget - sales was abysmal.
slow karma
Budget doesn't guarantee quality
crude talon
Oh my god donāt get me started on the dead space āwhat if?ā Game
slow karma
It just guarantees fidelity.
I dunno why I'm so eager to put apostrophes on everything
crude talon
Callisto Protocol is SUCH a fucking cop out for a one trick pony developer
crude talon
Yea true
slow karma
So they'll either crumble under the failure or actually try something different
crude talon
I enjoyed the gameplay but god damn
crude talon
I love them
slow karma
Least of all dead space. That shit gave me a couple panic attacks in the past.
I said "no ma'am"
slow karma
Like they were great games, but that was my issue with them
they were too good at the atmosphere lmao
crude talon
Even RE7 in VR was spooky to me lol
maiden wolf
Surge dump stat is charge rate ironically enough
Part of me wonders if this is a rumor I spread unintentionally when I shared a Surge staff I rolled with an 80, 80, 80, 78, 24 stat spread.
slow karma
No I'd imagine it just makes sense
maiden wolf
AFAIK you're right, but I'm worried I created some false data
slow karma
You never really fully charge it cuz you don't have to
crude talon
Nah Iām just right lol. I donāt take advice from psyker chat
slow karma
Sure it does more damage but it doesn't do great damage to begin with because it's just such hard CC
slow karma
It does
crude talon
No offense, but thereās a lot of dumb fucks in here
slow karma
Nice sprout take
maiden wolf
I can't wait to replace warp flurry with warp nexus on mine
slow karma
But yeah the damage on Surge staves isn't notable enough to care about unless you REALLY need it
so it's still worth maximizing the damage bar but the charge time isn't such a huge deal
crude talon
Being a sprout in this discord has nothing to do with the game and how long someone has played it. But good one
slow karma
You so rarely want to fire out damage from surge
maiden wolf
I just went for crit chance, the other stat was 25% damage vs unyielding, which is okay since I spend a lot of time stunlocking ogryns.
slow karma
No, kast, it doesn't. But you're too new to this space to be so openly hostile to people being misinformed.
Be a jaded vet of the server itself, then get back to us
crude talon
Lol ok
maiden wolf
No, kast, it doesn't. But you're too new to this space to be so openly hostile t...
Yeah, its important to stay cordial.
What would the emperor do?
slow karma
Yeah no, gaming kills that
But really I'm just taking the piss
It's not that big a deal
crude talon
I would be more cordial if there werenāt so many āwell acktchuallyā guys around lol
slow karma
Well actually (hue) that's the game's fault
crude talon
But I get it Iām not pressed
maiden wolf
Oh my god, there's so much arguing in Psyker chat
slow karma
It's mostly because of all the data we've had to strong arm from the code
It's out there but it's not disseminated well
maiden wolf
I've encountered some truly miserable people on reddit
crude talon
I originally joined this discord just to troll anyway lol but I like some people here
slow karma
Any active game past a certain size is going to pull irritants in general. It's like a law of the universe
crude talon
I really like vet chat, that class is so boring they were talking about for honor for an hour earlier lol
Or more
crude talon
Any active game past a certain size is going to pull irritants in general. It's ...
True
north cradle
I've encountered some truly miserable people on reddit
It's R*ddit
Social mediites are miserable people
R*dditors are delusional misers, Tw*tters are psychopathic losers, and Zuccbookers are deranged pod people
crude talon
What are discord people tho? 
north cradle
Furries
crude talon
frozen osprey
crude talon
Poggers
gilded cloud
How is this Surge?
still hearth
How is this Surge?
69 damage/10
cold elm
How is this Surge?
Not bad
gilded cloud
69 damage/10
What do you mean by /10?
still hearth
What do you mean by /10?
Its a joke.
I think surge just wants charge, warp and quell to spam stun. Damage and crit bonus is a bit.
Low
crude talon
too low damage, too high charge rate
manic needle
I think the blessings are a little meh though, huh?
Warp Nexus is basically the only blessing youre looking for on Surge
With that said crit bonus is kind of on the low side
gilded cloud
too low damage, too high charge rate
gilded cloud
With that said crit bonus is kind of on the low side
So the only dump stat on surge is damage or something else?
manic needle
Warp Resist is dumpable, some say charge rate too because of the small impact it has but I generally dont agree with that sentiment
gilded cloud
How about this VoidStrike?
The warp resistance a bit lower and charge rate but damage and quell speed and blessing is good
manic needle
Pretty decent, shame Transfer Peril is the lowest rank but at least it has it
gilded cloud
Warp Resist is dumpable, some say charge rate too because of the small impact it...
ah so they are dumps just becauese of the small impact
manic needle
Pretty much yeah
gilded cloud
Pretty decent, shame Transfer Peril is the lowest rank but at least it has it
True... Didn't notice it was the lowest rank
That sucks lol
manic needle
It's still a nice staff
gilded cloud
Yeah, hopefully rebless will be a thing haha
I grabbed it tho. Most of my stuff are outdated
Is it weird but I actually really like the chainsaw. Feels like it can deal with hordes unlike an axe and that special can deal big single damage too
floral solstice
chainsword is decent, you can deal with hordes with an axe too
gilded cloud
chainsword is decent, you can deal with hordes with an axe too
How? Isn't it always single target?
floral solstice
also i just woke up and saw the uber amazing open letter, please tell me this isn't the only thing we're getting this week
floral solstice
How? Isn't it always single target?
brutal momentum blessing
you'd want it especially on antax mk 5 combat axe, you can use something like mk 2 tac axe but it's way better on zealot compared to psyker imo
manic needle
also i just woke up and saw the uber amazing open letter, please tell me this is...
Hotfix patch... maybe?
clever walrus
also i just woke up and saw the uber amazing open letter, please tell me this is...
they also got rid of dogs and replaced with lights out!!
although nobody has seen it...
floral solstice
well shit, hope we do get at least a hotfix
floral solstice
and hopefully the promised TH buffs from last patch, but im not getting my hopes up
gilded cloud
brutal momentum blessing
I'll keep an eye out for that. But why that specific mark and combat axe? Combat is higher damage right? And why the mark?
floral solstice
anyone else getting a steam error rn while using armory extension?
manic needle
STeam is down for me atm
fierce sinew
each mark is a different weapon in this game
mkV axe is the specific one with the strong cleave push attack
floral solstice
I'll keep an eye out for that. But why that specific mark and combat axe? Combat...
shortest answer is mk v is the best out of all combat axes, dont use rashad combat axe because is head detection or whatever you call it is kinda wonky
ornate hamlet
steam is down all over the world
floral solstice
STeam is down for me atm
oh yeah just tried logging in on my steam too, guess it's a steam thing
manic needle
Well it is maintenance day to be fair
brittle crest
Warp Resist is dumpable, some say charge rate too because of the small impact it...
honestly i def feel it on my surg staff that has super low warp res, compared to my purg staff that isn't as terrible
manic needle
I expect things to be back to normal shortly
bold flint
With that said crit bonus is kind of on the low side
whats crit do for surge
why would you want it
brittle crest
but i think it's like, VERY dump stat (maybe 40% or slightly less)
and i run into a lot of peril management issues
(also possible it's just a skill issue 
)
floral solstice
noooo, if steam is down then how can i run the game, buy from the armory and not play it anyway
manic needle
whats crit do for surge
Surge staff has a base crit rate of 25%, crit damage is a significant source of power on the surge staff
brittle crest
we need a pin on like mod prio for the staffs methinks
floral solstice
oh hey steam is up
slow karma
I still don't know how you tell what rank a blessing is
floral solstice
there's lines on the icon
fierce sinew
if you're in the browser extension it just tells you, ingame look at the lines protruding from the icon
slow karma
Yeah the browser extention says it plainly but the icon
wet jacinth
slow karma
has lots of lines on it in general, I don't know what it looks like compared to one another
floral solstice
number of lines is the tier
still hearth
Yep
floral solstice
yeah
still hearth
T2-T4 has 2 to 4 lines
slow karma
Can someone screenshot a high tier blessing?
gilded cloud
shortest answer is mk v is the best out of all combat axes, dont use rashad comb...
Okay then. I'll look about for the mark v
slow karma
Cuz it's very stylized and my brain is gonna need it in the moment.
I'm away from my pc so
wet jacinth
slow karma
cant really do it myself
floral solstice
uhh if you check one of the recent photos i posted with the search function i posted an axe with t4 decimator
slow karma
Ah ok lemme look then
floral solstice
shit i hope i didnt post my nudes jk
wet jacinth
slow karma
Yeah
fierce sinew
here
slow karma
oh thanks
bold flint
lmao
gilded cloud
Surge staff has a base crit rate of 25%, crit damage is a significant source of ...
How does warp nexus stack 5 times though? What makes it stack?
wheat quartz
peril
slow karma
Yeah the little tick marks are what you guys are talking about
slow karma
Got it, now I can properly tell
gilded cloud
peril
It's very vague though. It just says based on current peril there is a 3% maximum critical hit chance and it stacks 5x. I guess what I'm confused about is at what point is another stack added?
floral solstice
i learned that bless tier thing when i was already like 300+ hours in the game lol
wheat quartz
basically it's supposed to give you a stack per peril breakpoint you pass, like, at 100% peril, you have five stacks, but the tooltip of course doesn't tell us what it is, lol
floral solstice
i used to just compare the values written
wheat quartz
I believe dataminers have them and it's non-intuitive (both the 4th and 5th stack are at 97%?)
wet jacinth
Basically more peril = higher crit with warp nexus
gilded cloud
I believe dataminers have them and it's non-intuitive (both the 4th and 5th stac...
That's dumb tho... Who tf is going to fire a shot at that peril? I mean you might... Once but then you gotta quell
wheat quartz
fatshark
fierce sinew
I think (I don't remember exactly) it corresponds to the same breakpoints that determine things like passive quell speed and the audiovisual effects
gilded cloud
And I also wonder if it's determined by the peril of when you start casting or when you attack
Because I am not starting a fast at 97% for surge lol
I will die
bold flint
does the total crit bonus only add up to 2% or 10%
wheat quartz
2/3/4/5 per stack, 5 stacks, maximum 10/15/20/25
bold flint
okay, so the descriptive text is wrong, great work illiterateshark
wheat quartz
as expected
btw use this on purgatus, you can often safely cast it at 100% if there are enough poxwalkers, because as long as you get a proc of the 10% chance to reduce 10% peril, you won't die
slow karma
People love to punch down
wheat quartz
and no matter what you won't start exploding until you finish dumping your entire charge bar of fire
gilded cloud
okay, so the descriptive text is wrong, great work illiterateshark
It's not wrong though. It says
+Critical Change based on current Peril. Max of 3% critical chance. Stacks 5 times.
It is a maximum of 3% per stack
fierce sinew
Wrong descriptions isnt unique to fatshark tho
punching isn't unique to boxers, but we respect the dedication and expertise of a specialist
wheat quartz
yeah but there's no range, therefore saying "max" is dumb
wet jacinth
gilded cloud
and no matter what you won't start exploding until you finish dumping your entir...
Don't you need to keep holding down the right mouse button to keep casting the flames tho? In which peril gets built up?
slow karma
I don't think so
wheat quartz
try it in meatgrinder
slow karma
Once you press down the left mouse, the stream just goes until you let the left mouse up again
or you run out of charge bar
gilded cloud
yeah but there's no range, therefore saying "max" is dumb
I expected that there was a range though.. Although I don't know the numbers, for easiness, let's assume the stacks are at 20, 40, 60, 80, 97 peril
So at 10% peril, the bonus crit you get is 2.5%. At 20%, you get the max 5% bonus. At 30% you get 7.5% and so on
gilded cloud
Once you press down the left mouse, the stream just goes until you let the left ...
Really? I swear mine stopped. Maybe I'm crazy or dumb
bold flint
if they worded it like that just because of that interaction then that is the most bozo way i think you could design a blessing
wet jacinth
issue with darktide blessings is just the fact you have no indicator of your stacks/buffs like vermintide did
fierce sinew
you have for some
slow karma
It may be better to check, I sure do feel like I've just let it up from time to time due to twitch
fierce sinew
buffs and other effects from feats are generally on screen
but blessings yeah you're on your own
near wyvern
When the +crit peril says max of 5% it means you get +5% at the top tier of peril. Stacking 5 times just means there are 5 tiers of peril which will be divided to +1% per tier (if you have +5 max)
fierce sinew
it doesn't seem like it should be that hard to implement too
they have the icons already
throw them in a corner with a timer on top
maybe because fatshark they would have to manually add an additional ui effect for each individual blessing
for reasons
and it's too much
wet jacinth
bold flint
When the +crit peril says max of 5% it means you get +5% at the top tier of peri...
@wheat quartz would you contest this
wet jacinth
wheat quartz
Empirically, t4 warp nexus is not giving 5% total crit
At least if yellow numbers popping in the meat grinder are indicative
gilded cloud
Empirically, t4 warp nexus is not giving 5% total crit
And if it did... Then that's shit
near wyvern
It's definitely not giving 25%
gilded cloud
5% bonus at 90%ish peril is crap
fierce sinew
an additive 5% would still double your base crit
near wyvern
But then you have things like shred which give you +25
Or crucian roulette which goes up to +50
So +5 is something to laugh at
If you stack it with perk, maybe but other than that, meh
fierce sinew
I do agree that anecdotally it does not feel like 5%
but I haven't rigged up an ahk meatgringer test or anything and counted
wheat quartz
yeah I haven't done a recorded test and actually counted yellows or anything
just, there was a lot of yellows, compared to a +5% crit perk staff with no nexus
gilded cloud
5% power at full Stamina
I haven't played any Vermintide games but I just really really REALLY appreciate that swinging my weapon doesn't use up stamina and only blocking, dodging, and running do
still hearth
I haven't played any Vermintide games but I just really really REALLY appreciate...
We used to not even have running
mortal pendant
what perks should i roll for purgatus (damnation) lads?
gilded cloud
just, there was a lot of yellows, compared to a +5% crit perk staff with no nexu...
Hard to test too sometimes unless you have the exact same staff just without nexus
cloud heron
flak and crit chance
gilded cloud
We used to not even have running
As in Vermintide, you couldn't rub? Or it didn't take up stamina?
I wish running didn't either tbh. It's not that much faster...
still hearth
As in Vermintide, you couldn't rub? Or it didn't take up stamina?
You couldn't run in VT2 yes
gilded cloud
You couldn't run in VT2 yes
Was movement speed decently fast then? Or kinda how walking is here?
bold flint
im leftclicking with a voidstrike at 99% peril with a T3 warp nexus and i do seem to be critting more than 9% of the time
safe pendant
Some dogs are made of rubber, which is why they sometimes ignore surge
still hearth
I wish running didn't either tbh. It's not that much faster...
You clearly haven't played with a Knife properly
gilded cloud
You clearly haven't played with a Knife properly
Haven't played zealot yet. It's gonna be my next class
still hearth
Was movement speed decently fast then? Or kinda how walking is here?
Feels about the same basically
wheat quartz
remember to paint the knife red, because it makes you go faster
still hearth
Just use Knife on Psyker
wet jacinth
In vermintide you had to roll movement speed stats on your class/gear to move faster or use abilities
still hearth
It's like Dueling Sword but even faster
lethal folio
Vermintide had a lot of moving faster by attacking the air with weapons that had movespeed boost during attacks
safe pendant
How about painting a lightning bolt on the knife too?
lethal folio
Which was verycsilly.
wet jacinth
Vermintide had a lot of moving faster by attacking the air with weapons that had...
Sienna dagger users be like
gilded cloud
Anyone wish that Melk's contracts were not as annoyingly long? I know they are week long quests... But imagine having multiple characters... That sucks. Ain't no one got time for that
wheat quartz
I just don't bother doing my psyker's ones because he already has what I want tbh
safe pendant
Oh baby
cloud heron
i don't even try to finish all of my melk quests anymore
gilded cloud
Can be rectified tho by having contracts be account wide and gear shared. At the very least... Just melk's gears being account wide
wheat quartz
My zealot has shit luck, while my psyker is beloved
gilded cloud
i don't even try to finish all of my melk quests anymore
Yeah, I have like 1000 currency so I desperately need them
wet jacinth
Can be rectified tho by having contracts be account wide and gear shared. At th...
Sadly nothing is account wide aside from yourself playing them
gilded cloud
Sadly nothing is account wide aside from yourself playing them
And the premium currency
wheat quartz
I reckon for an ideal Purgatus you'd want "I cannot be interrupted out of my channeling" (can't remember what this is called) and warp nexus. There doesn't seem to be a better utility benefit blessing than that one.
wet jacinth
I guess Aquilas are there but that's cosmetic only
gilded cloud
And premium cosmetics
cloud heron
Yeah, I have like 1000 currency so I desperately need them
Melk never sells anything good anyway. I've yet to buy something from him
wet jacinth
And premium cosmetics
Aside from weapons. Very few are interchangeable
Like the mechanical eye one
bold flint
alright, i left clicked 50 times at 99 peril and got 9 crits
wet jacinth
gilded cloud
Aside from weapons. Very few are interchangeable
Yeah cause a lot are class specific
wet jacinth
That's the point
maiden wolf
What do y'all think? Is it worth it in spite of the bad reload?
wheat quartz
I want a Surge/Nexus voidstrike ;_;
gilded cloud
alright, i left clicked 50 times at 99 peril and got 9 crits
Okay, now do this 5 more times for a good sample
wet jacinth
Unless you make idk. 4 Ogryns for whatever reason
wheat quartz
uh
gilded cloud
I want a Surge/Nexus voidstrike ;_;
What does Surge blessing do again?
lethal folio
You get a stack at 020%,50%,80%,97%,97% peril.
wheat quartz
"on crit, shoot another bolt" apparently
I've never seen one
Melk refuses to cough up
wet jacinth
What do y'all think? Is it worth it in spite of the bad reload?
Revolver fan Vets would die for that thing
maiden wolf
I'm gonna get it
still hearth
Nooo
gilded cloud
Melk refuses to cough up
Is it only at melk? I heard someone say that blessing only. Pops. Up on t4 or t5
lethal folio
Bad blessings, bad stats
wheat quartz
it's a t4
olive ember
wheat quartz
so really fuckin' rare (lol) anywhere except Melk or Emperor's Gifts
gilded cloud
How is the revolver any good? It barely had any ammo. Don't you run out fast?
wet jacinth
How is the revolver any good? It barely had any ammo. Don't you run out fast?
Depends if you used it pre buff
wheat quartz
The shots hit like a truck and Vet can press F to insta-reload
wet jacinth
Pre buff. Revolver had very little ammo
lethal folio
Revolver still has very little ammo
wet jacinth
Revolvers shot stagger like a truck and does no damage
If you're just body hitting carapace yeah
lethal folio
Yes, take 5 shots to kill specials and call that good damage.
Revolver is for styling.
wheat quartz
memeing around on crucian revolver with zealot, I appreciate Q -> shoot being nearly instant sniper removal
near wyvern
Revolver build is just a BB melee build with an oh shit button
wheat quartz
gotta leave a round in the gun and lose some of my bonus though
gilded cloud
Smack that hound off your buddy
But the mark 12 lasgun is pretty damn good enough with lots of ammo
wheat quartz
less I don't have a t4 crucian revolver :(
still hearth
But the mark 12 lasgun is pretty damn good enough with lots of ammo
Yeah XII is dummy thicc
gilded cloud
52 shots just seems like crap
wheat quartz
I just wanna pull out the hsword 9 and make poxwalkers evaporate
still hearth
It's why I run Gun Psyker
wheat quartz
The revolver is a tool that aids in this goal
near wyvern
Crucian Roulette autogun works the same if you plan to keep it empty mainly
gilded cloud
Btw... Is it just me... Or does BB charge up faster if you hold left click on a target? Versus holding right click and not having a specific target yet?
near wyvern
You have ult for stagger now pls
still hearth
Btw... Is it just me... Or does BB charge up faster if you hold left click on a ...
It does
wheat quartz
yes it does charge faster
gilded cloud
Okay, so I'm not crazy lol
gilded cloud
But downside is you can lose the charge if the target dies
near wyvern
Btw... Is it just me... Or does BB charge up faster if you hold left click on a ...
LMB has 2 second charge, RMB 3, both cost 10 peril per second to charge and then the cast itself is 1 second animation
gilded cloud
Yeah. But left click has the added benefit of not needing to maintain line of sight once started
I always did right click ngl. Might need to change that
near wyvern
Yes and less peril generated since it charges faster and you can't over hold it
near wyvern
You can always cast and finish LMB if you are at 97 or below
It will not pop your brain
gilded cloud
LMB has 2 second charge, RMB 3, both cost 10 peril per second to charge and then...
For much peril is generated on release of the BB?
gilded cloud
You can always cast and finish LMB if you are at 97 or below
Yeah it doe snot work with RMB tho. Cause you will overcharge once it's done and when you release it, dead
near wyvern
25
@gilded cloud
Just.. here. It's the manual, have fun.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2917274959
gilded cloud
25
Okay then so technically 3 consecutive BB in a row is possible before needing to quell
Ty for the link btw
wheat quartz
siblings melk is taunting me
gilded cloud
siblings melk is taunting me
Is it cause it's good stats but a tac axe?
wheat quartz
Huh? No, tac axes are great
Just, that's on my psyker, not my zealot. Again. Again.
bold flint
Yeah. But left click has the added benefit of not needing to maintain line of si...
both modes do that
near wyvern
Okay then so technically 3 consecutive BB in a row is possible before needing to...
Yes and if you have ult you can keep going as long as battle meditation triggers. If it doesn't you can still ult out of the self destruct mode.
fathom bronze
You guys have any tips for "Pick n Mix"?