#psyker-class
still hearth
north cradle
Sure, the damage multiplier is nice, but it just feels wasted on a weapon with no horizontality
still hearth
The force sword supposedly has really good cleave values but you have to drag the weapon around for it
It also has two diagonal strikes to combo
north cradle
Ya, I understand that First Target is going to deal bonus damage to the titular 'first target,' horizontal or vertical or thrusting. I'm just saying, for a weapon that has a single vaguely horizontal attack (because it's diagonal), I'd rather have Critical Bonus or Penetration
still hearth
I'd rather they made First Target just a bonus that is actually decent. Warp Resistance is the one I'd remove
north cradle
Buffing First Target is also acceptable I guess
still hearth
Going from 0.85-1.15 doesn't feel as thicc
cyan notch
what is 0.85-1.15
still hearth
The usual first target multipliers iirc, idk if every weapon with it has those
north cradle
The First Target bonus damage. You either deal less damage on the first target, or more, depending on the percentage
It's like Cleave Damage on a Claw Sword but crappy
cyan notch
north cradle
Oh nice so no damage penalty
still hearth
Well
forest coral
why does that exist
north cradle
I think the tooltip is a bit clunky on that one too
It seems to imply that this only takes effect if you hit more than one target
still hearth
When isn't the tooltip clunky lol
north cradle
You right
still hearth
First Target is actually just a damage multiplier afaik
forest coral
fatshark having a transparent tool tip challenge (impossible)
north cradle
First Target makes sense for weapons that are primarily Strikedown but have Vanguard or Relentless attacks in there somewhere, like the shovels
cyan notch
nah its just for single target focus weapons
north cradle
Correct me if I'm wrong, but a Force Sword is Strikedown-Strikedown-Assassin on light, and Strikedown-Strikedown on heavy
north cradle
The first two Force Sword lights are Assassin?
cyan notch
all 3 are assassin
still hearth
All lights are assassin
It's the same as Knife and Dueling Sword for lights
But it apparently can cleave if you swing it around manually
north cradle
Maybe I'm just crazy and attack animations don't really tell you what kind of attack it is
I thought Strikedown would be an overhead swing (or underhand) like the axes. The stab at the end of the light chain is the one I'd reasonably call Assassin
cyan notch
nah theyre vermintide terms
assassin attacks have high headshot and crit multiplier bonuses
still hearth
It's just terms to define their bonuses
still hearth
I think in DT assassin is only WS bonus
cyan notch
relentless is even more cleave and stagger
still hearth
near wyvern
First target is a damage multiplier which always is applied to the first target that gets hit, no matter how many you will hit. The UI damage break down always shows the damage values for your first target rounded down but before counting buffs (perks, blessings, feats)
north cradle
Ya I knew that
It's just, I think a Force Sword with combos like it has now, would be better suited to have Penetration or Critical Bonus. Do you get what I'm trying to say?
The stat doesn't fit the weapon animations
cyan notch
probably for the special
still hearth
40% less damage tho
Well, 32*
Unless they buff it to do full First Target damage if they remove the stat
regal musk
Or change the FS Heavy special to actual AoE so it makes it sense.
still hearth
It could be an AoE knockback at least, that would be dope.
idle bay
And Deflector to be intrinsic trait, and as blessing t should Reflect shots 🙂
north cradle
Milkandcookies put out that video about all the weapon icons in the game, and I'm really hoping that those two other Force Swords also make it in-game, especially if one turns out to be a Force Greatsword with more sweeping attacks
regal musk
The effect kind of mimics a brainburst. May as well make the Heavy version mimic Psykinetics wrath a bit. But even just making it cause the struck enemy to explode in a radius would be cool.
idle bay
Milkandcookies put out that video about all the weapon icons in the game, and I'...
He sould burn in warp for his revolver promoting videos 🙂
north cradle
Brain Burst could use some buff options at Level 10. I crafted a little hypothetical here before
still hearth
He sould burn in warp for his revolver promoting videos 🙂
Revolver is a good weapon for Zealots
idle bay
Revolver is a good weapon ~~for Zealots~~
It's meme weapon
still hearth
You're not meant to shoot things dead with it
It's a stagger tool for Zealots to save allies instantly
north cradle
- Peril Resistance becomes an innate feature of gaining Warp Charges
- The Level 10 feat that once was the Peril Resistance is replaced by a feat that would cause AoE stagger within 3m of a Brain Bursted target, with no damage to secondary targets
- Wrack and Ruin is buffed so Soulblaze is applied on any Brain Burst kill, same stacks
still hearth
Lets you stagger through a horde to stop flamers, trappers and free people from dogs
idle bay
Does shotgun also provide a massive stagger ?
forest coral
shotgun psyker sounds fun in a memey way
north cradle
So Psykers at Level 10 would still be able to buff their kit, but it's their choice on whether that's in their Force Weapons with Peril, or in their Brain Burst
still hearth
The Revolver should really only be paired with a high mobility melee
idle bay
And shotguns in Darktide is videogame shotguns that shoot confetti beyound 10m range?
still hearth
They do pretty bad damage at long range, yes.
north cradle
I think they're like Payday 2 or Halo 1 shotguns where the pellets just disperse in a larger cone, but still hit things
forest coral
The damage fall off is suprisingly not that awful if u aim down the sites
regal musk
The special round does surprisingly well at range
forest coral
narrows the spread dramatically
forest coral
absymsal at horde clear
north cradle
Come to think of it, weren't Psykers allowed to use shotguns in the closed beta?
idle bay
We need Arc weapons. Animation is already in game (Surge staff)
north cradle
Galvanic Rifles for the Skitarii class 
idle bay
Imagine a Zealot with mass stagger tool as Arc Pistol
north cradle
If the Thunder Hammer heavy special attack could strike the ground and do a ground-based cone attack for massive stagger, I'd be happy with that too
Kinda like in Space Marine 1
idle bay
Galvanic Rifles for the Skitarii class <:PepeCopium:918140324113707038>
Or Rad Carbines that slowly drain teammates health in close proximity due to extreme radiation exposure 🙂
north cradle
I already have to deal with Grimoires, I don't want it in Plasma Rifle form too
idle bay
Plasma Pistols also would be nice.
north cradle
Ya know, all things considered, I feel like the Plasma Rifle should have a more worthwhile passive ammo regen, or just make it kind of a copy of Kerillian's Moonfire Bow but it'll explode on you
north cradle
Like, the Plasma Rifle already has a ridiculously long reload time like Peril quelling does, or you could do a quick partial vent that chips at your health. I wouldn't necessarily put ammo on top of that, especially when Boltguns do roughly the same job without wallbanging
cyan notch
Fatshark needs to buff Ordo Dockets from 10% to 20%
no thanks im almost at docket cap already
mint brook
Plasma rifle shooting through teammates and walls is a big one
idle bay
Like, the Plasma Rifle already has a ridiculously long reload time like Peril qu...
Though Plasma gun have almost instant "ready" animation after switching to it. Compared to Bolter that you need to wait for eternity for it to be ready for shooting
mint brook
Getting the reload speed after killing elites helps
idle bay
Plasma rifle shooting through teammates and walls is a big one
And that! Some teammates consider that it's thier sacred duty to block vet shots!
regal musk
And that! Some teammates consider that it's thier sacred duty to block vet shots...
It is indeed my sacred duty to block shots from inexperienced veterens incapable of choosing a firing lane that doesnt include their teammates backside.
north cradle
Methinks if the benefits outweighed the costs, it would be used a little more, but I mostly see either Mk XII or Boltguns. I think I've seen autoguns more than I've seen plasma rifles
idle bay
I've being playing vet recently to vent my frustration with all the garbage-tier vets that wank in the corner instead of killing all the shooters fast (build with perk at lvl 30 that mark all the shooters).
And by the Big E how good it feels
regal musk
What frustrates me is seeing vets unload clip after clip into trash mobs im killing in melee instead of the shooters on the other side of the room blasting us freely lol.
north cradle
Veteran is going to be the last character I play. Already finished Psyker and Ogryn penances, and I'm going to play Zealot next
Agripinaa Braced Autogun and Eviscerator seem to be the preferred weapons, though I want to use Thunder Hammer instead. It looks like more fun, and I usually find Ogryns to be a literally bigger problem
regal musk
How so with Ogryns?
cyan notch
fat
north cradle
Recently I've been finding fewer players using Boltguns, so that means when I'm playing Psyker, I have to deal with the Crushers and Bulwarks
regal musk
Ohh, you meant enemy ogryns XD
north cradle
Ya lol
floral solstice
zealots and vets can deal with crushers without bolt
wait
im dumb again
i mean without bolt
north cradle
With ease?
forest coral
Vet swinging another vet at the crusher
regal musk
My zealot isnt maxed yet, But i do happily stab Crushers and Bulwarks to death with my knife lol
forest coral
ehehe
floral solstice
north cradle
I've seen some madlads fight a Crusher with Power Swords, I didn't think they had that much Penetration
floral solstice
well you can swing power swords at a crushers head
it wont melt them but it's okay-ish damage
north cradle
I think I've accepted that Psyker's best role is stunning Ogryns long enough for my teammates to finish them off more quickly and more safely
Bulwarks especially get opened up for deletion when I burst their brain
cyan notch
I've seen some madlads fight a Crusher with Power Swords, I didn't think they ha...
power swords handle em pretty decently
floral solstice
i dont even like using bolter on crushers unless there's maulers or ragers with them
still hearth
I've found that XII + BB covers almost anything you want to kill.
Then just take a decent melee to kill hordes
And you're guchi.
Staffs are nice for team play but in an unorganized group
It just fucks me over so often
north cradle
XII for Mutants and Flamers, BB for everything else?
forest coral
xii is just so good in general
still hearth
XII for Mutants and Flamers, BB for everything else?
XII kills anything that isn't a Crusher or Bulwark actually.
It has faster TTK on gunners, trappers and dogs.
Ragers too
You whip it out and kill 3 ragers before the other Psyker has done a single BB.
cyan notch
3 ragers in less than 2s huh
north cradle
Dreg Ragers maybe. Scab Ragers are a different story iirc
Maybe not Brain Burst, but I'm pretty sure a Force Sword special smack will one-hit them
north cradle
still hearth
All lasguns do like full damage to anything that isn't Carapace
cyan notch
Maybe not Brain Burst, but I'm pretty sure a Force Sword special smack will one-...
depends on difficulty and light/heavy
north cradle
Damn I need to find me a Mk XII with Infernus
north cradle
depends on difficulty and light/heavy
Damnation, a heavy will kill a Scab Rager
still hearth
I usually run Quell to Toughness
Then BB twice before taking out the XII
So you regen Toughness while shooting
Its a nice combo
north cradle
Oh shit that works on passive quelling too?
north cradle
The best life protips are in the comments section
cyan notch
infernus is not that great on kantrael
clear heath
not like the blessings on kantrael matter that much anyways
still hearth
It does add up on monstrosities.
cyan notch
if you crit
north cradle
What's preferred? Looking at GamesLantern, I'd wager it's Deadly Accurate and Ghost?
still hearth
Just crit
north cradle
Ghost actually looks insane
still hearth
Ghost is so short and suppression is a bitch
north cradle
Ahh you're still suppressed?
still hearth
So with WS you my Kantrael 3shots ragers and 4shots scab ragers
north cradle
Which one is WS?
still hearth
Weakspot hits
north cradle
Righto
north cradle
Yeh I learnt that
north cradle
But fortunately, any problem that's too close to me for my lasgun, I give 'em a double push and some warp energies to the head
still hearth
And the Kantrael also
Has ammo
Like it was a full auto gun
So you can just spray into specials and not care
idle bay
Yeah Kantarel XII on vet have seemingly infinite ammo. You can spray at simple zombies if there are no other targets and still be good with ammo
north cradle
I mean it's a bit deceptive since it's actually like thirty shots with about eight spare mags, but I get you
The Headhunter guns can't even start to compete
north cradle
I'm convinced the only reason the ammo count is inflated is because of the Efficiency blessing
Yes exactly
north cradle
Recon Lasguns too, although I think the tan one uses 2 ammo and the others use 1
still hearth
Also TIL your weapons dodge limits are counted separately
But they come back at the same time
north cradle
I've seen a cracked out Zealot and a cracked out Psyker both spamming their knife and their duelling sword respectively to zoom across the map
regal musk
High mobility knife plus the speed booster feat is pretty funny
Well that run went south in a hurry.. Wonder why ? ... Fail screen level 17 Vet in Heresy ~_~
devout axle
Well that run went south in a hurry.. Wonder why ? ... Fail screen level 17 Vet ...
The problem was less likely the Lv17 Vet, and more likely your team working poorly together.
still hearth
I've played Damnation on every character from my first from the get go
It's definitely more a skill issue than level issue
But Vets have chronic skill issue 
north cradle
I refuse to join Heresy with randos if I'm under level 30
regal musk
Well, the vet included a bot and low level ogryn. First horde we ran into they all splatted in about 5 seconds lol.
still hearth
Damnation giving the same exp as Malice even if you fail is
regal musk
Probably not the only reason for the fail. But a higher level vet would had more tools 😛
regal musk
Yeh. Just better gear in general. Like actual Curios lol
Not the sole deciding facot rof a runs success, but low levels certainly do not aid the success chance
forest coral
True prisoner experience
north cradle
Originally I thought it was "A Force Sword is just blasting warp energy into someone" but then I realised the same can be applied to Brain Burst, and I have no explanation for Ascendant Blaze
Force Swords should indeed grant Warp Charges
steel vapor
The only back and forth i can see, is that forceswords can have massive peril resistance, while normal headbursts do not
but then again you actually have to be in melee and not a mile away in order to use it, so that should balance it out, no?
probably the main reason is just "lmao incomplete game" i guess
rocky cedar
They probably didn't want to overly push Psykers into FS. Same reason they gave non force weapons high passive venting
steel vapor
isnt the consensus that the duelling sword is the best? or am i wrong on that
also powersword lel
rocky cedar
Seems like there are plenty of fans of both FS and non force weapons on Psyker so if that was their design intent it seems mostly successful
cyan notch
laspistol does
rocky cedar
I wouldn't have an issue with force sword generating charges on special attack kills mind
Just trying to guess at the reasoning
steel vapor
right, that could work
when you kill a rager you get a charge
when you kill a poxer then no
rocky cedar
Yeah, why does only laspistol get a unique Psyker special move
Would have been so dope if they'd done that for way more weapons
Would have differentiated them from how other classes use them more
steel vapor
imagine if they made laspistol viable and have a cool special move
rocky cedar
I dunno about Damnation but my mate's been running FS Laspistol on Heresy with good success
I don't think it's that awful
steel vapor
well, its objectively half damage to lasrifle vs pretty much everything
so while you can still do it, its just massively outperformed by every other option
i have a 380 laspistol on my zealot, it takes like a full mag to kill a dog
infested damage is nonexistent
steel vapor
its a great example until we get to dodge them reliably
rocky cedar
I almost always deal with them in melee personally
steel vapor
in any case, the damage just isnt there
rocky cedar
Cause they're made of tissue paper for melee weapons
steel vapor
if the damage of las were better they would be fine
rocky cedar
I believe laspistol can one headshot all shooters with good rolls
It's not good anti special or elite for sure
steel vapor
I believe laspistol can one headshot all shooters with good rolls
so can pretty much every other weapon
rocky cedar
Yeah but it's also very mobile while doing so. Not sure how the ammo economy is on it, haven't used it much myself
Anyway not trying to argue it's particularly competitive
Just fairly usable
devout belfry
Las pistol is very accurate and has weird animation cancels you can do too. It's just the fact the mk12 outshines everything else lol.
steel vapor
Anyway not trying to argue it's particularly competitive
no i get that, and you can obviously beat t5's with it, but you are disadvantaged vs everything else - and in such cases i would argue a buff of some sort is on order
regal musk
Why is the laspistol reload so awful tho lol
rocky cedar
For light ranged weapons like they I'd like to have run and gun by default and reload while sprinting
devout belfry
I really wish there were weapon specialization trees in addition to the class ones. Would allow some variety.
rocky cedar
For light ranged weapons like they I'd like to have run and gun by default and r...
That's the kind of buff I could get behind
steel vapor
For light ranged weapons like they I'd like to have run and gun by default and r...
would be cool
devout belfry
I wouldn't be sprinting in combat much tbh
still hearth
so can pretty much every other weapon
devout belfry
At least psyker has a unique force push.
rocky cedar
That'd also be cool but probably unlikely to see a change that big
devout belfry
That'd also be cool but probably unlikely to see a change that big
Just as likely as a small change at this point 😂
cyan notch
coming next week
rocky cedar
It would definitely be fun to be able to trade eg DC sword special attack with firing an offhand sidearm
devout belfry
coming next week
TM ®©
Dual wield pistols.
Duelist with precognition.
So many cool opportunities.
Guess I'll see them in Rogue Trader first.
regal musk
Pfft, lemme use Staff and FS at the same time XD
north cradle
My man's trying to be Gandalf
regal musk
Naw i just wanna replace the joke special melee of the staves to swinging the sword instead XD
north cradle
I have never used a ranged weapon special that wasn't the flashlight
regal musk
tbf, most specials on guns ... are melee strikes anyway
And if something is close to stab with your gun, theyre close to stab with your p\erfectly good melee weapon lmao
north cradle
The only reason I would use a bash is if there's a melee enemy in my face and I need to keep my guns up, but usually they're trying to hit me, so I have to block anyway
fierce sinew
you'd be surprised. Bayonets are still issued in plenty of modern infantry. Swords not so much
idle bay
My best psyker moment from Dark Heresy session.
Party running away from whole army of local cultists, car chase through the desert on buggies and trucks. Out buggy finally gets too badly damage to go any further and party preparing to make a last stand from couple of hundreds of cultists...
And then my psyker fail perils of warp check... badly.
A massive blood rain (few kilometres wide) starts - cultists loosing they shit en mass, falling catatonic from fear and shitting their pants. Party do all willpower checks nicely and go on murdering hundreds of helpless cultists.
Blood for an Emperor, Sculls for a Golden Throne moment 🙂
north cradle
I was taught to use bayonets, but I'll be damned if I don't get to kill someone with my sword in theatre some day
regal musk
you'd be surprised. Bayonets are still issued in plenty of modern infantry. Swor...
Well sure. Thats modern infantry lol
The average IRL human cant quickswap their gun for a sword in 0.2 seconds 😛
fierce sinew
fair enough
north cradle
You'd be surprised
If you've got a sling on your weapon, you can drop it in an instant and swap to something else
Switching to your pistol is faster than reloading
fierce sinew
pistols are faster to draw than sabers
fierce sinew
but still well out of the scabbard
regal musk
IRL stuff be cool and such, but in the context of Darktide ... Why Bayonet one dude when you could switch to your sword and cleave half a dozen dudes in the same time lol
north cradle
I mean, think of all the steps you gotta perform to draw your pistol. Never mind the draw itself, but flipping the weapon safety off and getting your sights aligned. And if someone is charging at you, you'd better get a headshot within fifteen feet or you'll get stabbed
It can be done, but a gun and a sword in your hands will not only be more badass, but it'll be safer
fierce sinew
definitely, hence the enduring appeal of the bayonet
north cradle
It's like a spear but with complex machinery on the haft
fierce sinew
the thing you're already holding is always the fastest thing to hand
cyan notch
hellbore lasgun has a bayonet attack
calm temple
What’s the best melee weapon to have in a level 5 mission?
cyan notch
whatever you have
near wyvern
What’s the best melee weapon to have in a level 5 mission?
Depends what you run for your ranged option
Ans what you want from your melee weapon
calm temple
Trying to learn all the stats of the weapons but there’s a lot to understand
north cradle
When in doubt, run a Claw Sword. Mk I or Mk VII will do
calm temple
Thanks
fierce sinew
meme axe is popular, force sword is popular, most of the dueling swords are popular
near wyvern
When in doubt, run a Claw Sword. Mk I or Mk VII will do
No, Mk V axe is your when in doubt weapon. There is no situation it cannot handle
Claw is only good vs trash
fierce sinew
No, Mk V axe is your when in doubt weapon. There is no situation it cannot handl...
I share this view
near wyvern
Mk V axe with brutal momentum is a handle it all and better than average in each spectrum
fierce sinew
single target damage is good, push attack cleave is good, and the special attack staggers basically everything you can't immediately kill
north cradle
I've never actually used a Mk V, what are its combos?
cyan notch
I've never actually used a Mk V, what are its combos?
LOL
near wyvern
Is it the best melee weapon? No, because it depends what you are after. But if you are completely new into the game, you cannot go wrong with it.
cyan notch
funny you should ask that
fierce sinew
like combos
near wyvern
I've never actually used a Mk V, what are its combos?
Light spam and push attack spam for trash and specials, heavy for maulers and ogryns, vs ragers you use your weapon special then light and repeat
north cradle
I need to log in to see this in the Meat Grinder
near wyvern
Simple, easy and effective
cyan notch
nah just push attack everything except ogryns ig
near wyvern
Push attacking a mutant to death takes a while
north cradle
Oh geez what did Valve do to my Steam client?
near wyvern
Light spam is better DPS
fierce sinew
the one I posted kills bulwarks in one heavy to the head after bb to move the shield
near wyvern
the one I posted kills bulwarks in one heavy to the head after bb to move the sh...
Limb splitter?
fierce sinew
yes
cyan notch
skillful and nuaced weapon
fierce sinew
brutal momentum + limbsplitter = brain off, damage on
cyan notch
the power sword for psykers
when you dont wanna play the game but still wanna play the game
fierce sinew
meme axe my beloved
cyan notch
minimal brain activity
near wyvern
the power sword for psykers
At least as close you can get
But lemme tell ya
Knife + any perks or blessings + kinetic deflection + push attack spam = also brain off damage on
It has less cleave but a lot more speeeed. You can sprint slide forever as well, helps to dodge under ranged fire.
north cradle
I've seen Zealots end their slides early, what is that?
near wyvern
And the stagger interval makes it super safe
near wyvern
I still have yet to get a good knife
You don't need a good knife to do it, although it does help yeah when most of the stuff just dies in one head hit
cyan notch
at least knife you have to use some braincells for speed
so you dont fall into a coma
cant really handle crushers well though
bulwarks get lacerated through their shield
regal musk
Special action followup stab does pretty solid work if you can slide in behind them
near wyvern
Special action followup stab does pretty solid work if you can slide in behind t...
Ain't that just a heavy?
regal musk
IM not sure specifically what it counts as, But doing a normal light attack immediately after the punch does the super stab. No hold needed, so figured it was a unique stab to accompany the punch.
near wyvern
Lemme go check the damage
near wyvern
Yes light < special follow up < heavy = push attack
But the thing is you can spam push attacks so freaking fast and you cleave stagger with it as well
regal musk
Its still a fairly useful single target stamina free liught stagger that can combo into a near heavy stab.
Better special than whats on a lot of weapons tbh XD
cyan notch
regal musk
The instakill bless?
near wyvern
Yes it can also kill bullwarks through shield
regal musk
I have a knife with the instakill stacking chance on chained heavies. Thought it was cool.
Tested it on a damnation crusher.
Stabbed it to death before it triggered lol
My luck is terrible XD
uneven drift
Just roll t4 blessing, it will be 20% chance
ornate hamlet
Haymaker is one of those blessings that feel great in Psykarnum
But then in game you never get the chance to stack it
I put it high up for Zealot earlier but tbh its just too hard to make use of in game even for Zealots
ornate hamlet
15%-20% is actually good for Zealot
summer prairie
Since heavies are just worse
ornate hamlet
The 10% ATS boost helps
But its just like 1v1 or you can't use it
If there's trash mobs its rough to use heavies
And Lacerate makes Bulwarks stagger
Which is the other primary use case
summer prairie
Lacerate kills them faster too on average
ornate hamlet
I mean sometimes just deleting Ogryns is never bad.
But yeah
I think atm Lacerate + Rending is what I want the most
At least for Zealot
wheat quartz
I'd take Lacerate+Executor
wheat quartz
I actually have Executor T4 on a force sword, but it's got bad base stats sadly
ornate hamlet
Can you check if it can actually one-shot ragers if you stack it with BB and 6 stacks? I tried and I got to like 95% of their HP
So it should work
But I only had executor t3
wheat quartz
Sure lemme hit up the meat grinder
ornate hamlet
You have to run the Force Weapon damage feat too iirc
wheat quartz
wait does that affect BB?
ornate hamlet
Yes
ornate hamlet
Apparently
You can just try it with or without
The +15% damage for 5s that specifically says it doesn't work on Force Weapons
Also works on BB and force weapons IIRC
wheat quartz
okay here's the sword
cyan notch
noob lol
fresh reef
dump stat on Void is blast radius right?
ornate hamlet
I think it has some use?
But I'm not a Psyker main
I also run Gun Psyker primarily because staffs are too slow
wheat quartz
yes, I can oneshot damnation ragers with 6 stacks and executor t4
mutie still takes three
both ragers confirm yes
something feels weird though
gonna reset meat grinder
in case I set it to the wrong difficulty or something
yeah it might have been the wrong difficulty
ornate hamlet
Yay
wheat quartz
try 2 is not oneshotting
ornate hamlet
Ragers have 1350 HP on Damnation though iirc
wheat quartz
maybe it's my executor failing to stack
I really wish blessings had UI elements
lemme restack and retry
cyan notch
maybe it's my executor failing to stack
I really wish blessings had UI elements
immeasurably complex
ornate hamlet
Because I think executor falls off over time even if you swap weapon
for a force sword which perk should i reroll? 20% dmg infested or 4% crit chance
wheat quartz
yeah IIRC
ornate hamlet
You can stack Trickshooter
And Executor
For even more BB damage
I need this now
ornate hamlet
I'm pretty sure Trickshooter also doesn't fall off.
wheat quartz
I don't think executor falls off
ornate hamlet
Ahh
So you Trickshooter and then Executor
Then run BB the rest of the game
"Sorry guys I can't melee I need my stacks"
wheat quartz
yeah aura/barrage - the 15% CDR for ult + the 30 one that hastes BBs
kinetic barrage
ornate hamlet
How much damage does it do to Crushers with full stacks atm?
wheat quartz
lemme restack
1200
1600 to reaper
just like a hair off from oneshotting dog
If you have trickshooter + executor you probably can
wait I oneshot the dog
the heck, retrying
ah he was damaged
I dunno do you think another 20% power would cross this breakpoint?
fuck game crashed
ornate hamlet
It would put it to 1770 damage
wheat quartz
hmm, I wonder if Slaughterer 4 is a better bet, even though it does fall off
+75% power for... actually how long does Slaughterer last on the force sword?
ornate hamlet
3.5s I think?
If you want the best combo you do AB so that you can get kills from the soulblaze while charging 
wheat quartz
might be good for stack, then F(haste BB activate)->BB, BB, BB
ornate hamlet
Though it eats your stacks
You can get a single one-shot of with Slaughterer probably.
midnight escarp
I am new what is slaughterer?
ornate hamlet
A blessing that gives you POWER when you kill things
Temporarily
Or damage, but its mostly the same.
wheat quartz
+15% Power per stack, gain stack on killing something, stacks last 3.5 seconds
Or something along those lines
midnight escarp
So Power is bonus damage?
wheat quartz
And some other stuff, but yes
ornate hamlet
Power basically increases your damage, stagger and cleave.
But sometimes when it says power the code actually says damage.
So the tooltips can't be trusted
Welcome to Darktide
cyan notch
its 2s on fs
midnight escarp
Bonus brain burst speed you say? is it a feat or another blessing
wheat quartz
I think hasted BB is fast enough to fit in that window, but I don't have a slaughterer so I can't check
level 30 feat
midnight escarp
its 2s on fs
Might increase the duration on higher levels of the blessing?
wheat quartz
but yeah good to know that if I do have a slaughterer, I can F into a hasted BB and oneshot ragers and dog on damnation
ornate hamlet
Decimator falls off if you swap, right?
wheat quartz
I think so?
ornate hamlet
Otherwise that would be way easier.
I'm pretty sure people said it does, unlike many other blessings.
cyan notch
Might increase the duration on higher levels of the blessing?
nah
wheat quartz
Executor (knife or force sword) + Trickshooter is a stable permanent +45
If we pop elites fast enough with hasted BB + psykinetic aura, could work pretty well
ornate hamlet
The BB Sniper
cyan notch
isnt it 50
cyan notch
3 is 4% so probs
wheat quartz
lol power boosts don't stack additively?
wheat quartz
roflmao
ornate hamlet
From different sources at least
wheat quartz
yeah in that case you'll have 1x1.5x1.5 = 2.25, +125% damage
why would they make it work that way lol
good for us I guess?
wheat quartz
Tzeentch
ornate hamlet
Its not a huge difference but the more buffs you can stack
wheat quartz
zzz brain fried
ornate hamlet
Its also why stacking damage mods and blessings is nasty
And Zealot does so much melee damage
wheat quartz
hey does that work with our +10% damage vs elites aura
ornate hamlet
I think it does? But its not really any difference afaik
Since the damage is 850 against elites with the aura right
So you just do 850 * 1,25 * 1,25
ornate hamlet
Oh yeah
Zealot 1.15 stacks, 1.20 RC, 1.75 headtaker, 1.2 rampage
Stonks
Its also why RC is just better than more martyrdom
wheat quartz
indeed
too bad I don't have a headtaker/rampage
only headtaker/deathblow and headtaker/wrath
ornate hamlet
Doing 220 base damage on a Hsword
With like 90% cleave damage on hordes
Hitting 7 targets for between 100-220 damage
midnight escarp
any tips for taking no health damage? doing that penance
wheat quartz
the poxwalker the game likes to spawn behind you is the most reliable way to lose it
there will always be a poxwalker spawning behind you, look behind you every couple seconds
hardy coral
not a bad staff for a starter. 
wheat quartz
not bad but you just missed the burn stacks breakpoint...
fresh reef
didn't know the scab snipers played Siege
ornate hamlet
The last stack is basically only vs Ogryns and bosses anyway
So its not a big deal tbh
manic needle
Picked up both of these back to back at the armoury
Shame about Riposte on the left
strange wigeon
not bad but you _just_ missed the burn stacks breakpoint...
75% is the breakoff point?
wheat quartz
76, IIRC
manic needle
Transfer Peril, right? Nice
wheat quartz
Transfer Peril makes using it comfy
manic needle
Not sure about Dagger but Im thinking about giving Mk. 5 Dueling a shot the next time I play
wheat quartz
I'd decide based on Executor vs Shred
manic needle
Just have to decide which one I upgrade first
wheat quartz
For voidstrike, Executor probably better, unless you've got Surge on that thing
manic needle
Sadly the only Surge blessing I have right now is on Trauma, which is about as useful as Transfer Peril on it. Maybe less, actually.
fresh reef
Transfer Peril, right? Nice
nah, focused channeling unfortunately
hopefully will get transfer on second bless
cyan notch
Sadly the only Surge blessing I have right now is on Trauma, which is about as u...
good for boss damage
manic needle
Do you typically LMB on bosses with Trauma?
fresh reef
also, dagger stats
manic needle
Unfortunately it seems like Surge doesnt work on Trauma RMB
cyan notch
what really
wheat quartz
lol
manic needle
Yeah, I tested it against a crusher for quite a while, I only ever saw surge proc on LMB, in spite of many many crits vs. crusher with RMB
fresh reef
my other void. does this lose out on any important bp?
manic needle
No secondary white text, no noticable spike in damage with crits
manic needle
my other void. does this lose out on any important bp?
Not that Im aware of but those blessings arent especially good Id say. Sustained Fire only works on LMB
Perks too IMO
stuck bridge
gonna perils irl if somethin doesnt change soon
vernal frost
quick question for surge staff enjoyers
can it hit weakspots and if so, how consistently can you do it?
ornate hamlet
Do people enjoy using the surge staff?
ornate hamlet
can it hit weakspots and if so, how consistently can you do it?
Not the secondary.
Its unintended for it to show in the damage chart.
vernal frost
big thanks
wet belfry
Surge staff has a high skill celling on the bright side
wet belfry
You could always abuse exploits to guarantee crits on surge staff
Stack shred, switch to surge get high crit
ornate hamlet
Y'all don't know what the word exploit means.
wet belfry
Surge actually deals damage?
ornate hamlet
Its clearly an intended mechanic
vernal frost
Surge actually deals damage?
To armoured targets and maniacs
ornate hamlet
Like the intended mechanic of not getting the weapons you want.
vernal frost
Everything else is meh
ornate hamlet
And the intended mechanic of some feats breaking other things
frank hazel
I love expolody staff but purgatus feels so good
shadow onyx
Like the **intended mechanic** of not getting the weapons you want.
shhht
its a hoax
frank hazel
Goin in solo
fresh reef
goin in solo with literally unavoidable damage
I'd consider actually going for the rescues for the meme if I didn't have half hp to no fault of my own
frank hazel
Oh yeah I spawned in on a mission where I had barely any health cause I replaced a bot
Why don't they just top your health up
fresh reef
20s of the video was a loading screen
imagine how I felt getting a full minute of loading screen prior to loading into that garbage
feral topaz
Oh yeah I spawned in on a mission where I had barely any health cause I replaced...
I spawned into a defeat screen.
fresh reef
I spawned into a defeat screen.
at the very least it streamlines the process of leaving an unwinnable game lol
fierce sinew
My favorite ones to join in progress are when I replace someone who left in protest at the other waking the daemonhost
where I load in and get smoked instantly
stark goblet
Voidstrike is a linear moving rocket with an accuracy of keep headshotting heretics under dem ballz
It's a death ray with lingering hitbox
strange wigeon
i once spawned into 2 downed teammates and a plague ogryn
worst spawns is when you spawn inside of a crusher so the game flings you through time and space into the void
happened multiple times
west galleon
I must be doing something right, i dont get these issues.
Granted, i play like 2-3 runs max and then altf4 if anything goes not how i want to (e.g bad blessing with hadron)
Not during those runs though, i go down with the ship in that case
frank hazel
I spawned into a defeat screen.
Oof
Most unlucky reject: spawning in front of beast of nurgle
forest coral
AHHH FUK THIS CHALLENGE @floral solstice i love u sibling
median sorrel
surge staff my beloved
shadow onyx
worst spawns is when you spawn inside of a crusher so the game flings you throug...
real story
😔
near wyvern
I have spawned such that the moment I saw the game, a mutant pushed me into a wall, which sent me on a highway to hell out of the map and then the team wiped.
...
Kinda made Trauma staff work today at Damnation, it's a bit underpowered but with the right stats and the right build it can find some use in the team. It's more like a dedicated CC stick similar to surge.
shadow onyx
i tried to make the flawless missions x15 , i got trolled by a random who exploded a barrel, falling
near wyvern
Epic
near wyvern
I don't even dare to try it because my game crashes at least 2 times per mission
ornate hamlet
Trauma staff
shadow onyx
taboo
steel egret
The post about Trauma rending was interesting.
violet thorn
i tried to make the flawless missions x15 , i got trolled by a random who explod...
I got this by accident grinding the shit out of malices for grims/scrips
shadow onyx
🙈
near wyvern
You basically want to have as high charge speed, blast radius and quelling speed as you can. The rest of the stats don't really matter but warp resist is better than damage.
Then for the build, you wanna run 312331 and have a deflector force sword as a self defence weapon.
Then all you do is quell more than you have ever in your life. If you get caught, pull up FS get to a safe place and start blasting with Trauma. If there are many gunners, start BB spam and don't even bother to quell, if you are in self destruct, pop ult continue but Battle Meditation saves you surprisingly often.
near wyvern
The post about Trauma rending was interesting.
Trauma rending? The blessing?
near wyvern
I got this by accident grinding the shit out of malices for grims/scrips
That's the way to do it honestly
ornate hamlet
I can see Trauma being okay in a team.
But I can't see it being better than the other options
near wyvern
Yes you need a front line to even use the staff
manic needle
I'm still not over Surge blessing literally just not working on Trauma staff RMB
The salt is real
near wyvern
BUT
It is absolutely hilarious if you have a spot where enemies jump down from a ledge, because they all stack on the epicenter so you can just eat them all without ever quelling
And it's surprisingly good when you get those 5 Ragers 3 Crushers 4 bulwarks 2 shotgunners 2 flamers surprise parties. Just keep spamming staff and keep enemies on the floor/staggered.
near wyvern
I'm still not over Surge blessing literally just not working on Trauma staff RMB
Warp Flurry sadness as well
near wyvern
Purge
Purge is love but after burning blue flames on my eyes permanently I needed to do something else for a change
ornate hamlet
Fair
I just want Trauma to not be feels bad
It has use cases but those cases are just so niche
near wyvern
The thing with trauma is that they need to either halve the cost of casting or double the radius + slightly increase the damage.
violet thorn
Luv me purge, luv me Mk5 Axe, simple as
ornate hamlet
By radius I assume you meant the epicenter
near wyvern
By radius I assume you meant the epicenter
Yeah
ornate hamlet
I like it being the heavy peril staff but yeah 2.3m at an 80% roll is
Sad
The Voidstike actually has more AoE
iirc
Though idk how its AoE works
near wyvern
I feel thar 2.3 is more like the diameter of the epicenter and not the radius ATM
But that's just how it feels
Not necessarily true
near wyvern
Would have to find something to measure
ornate hamlet
Ping the floor
near wyvern
Yeah I guess
strange wigeon
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046914150363844779/1059496990028861550...
wow
cyan notch
why are they so scared of trauma that they released such a gimped form on release
near wyvern
But then you also have mob hit box and how is that distance calculated, from the centre or the edge
Of mob box
manic needle
I like it being the heavy peril staff but yeah 2.3m at an 80% roll is
Apparently Trauma Peril generation relative to other staffs is "acknowledged" as a bug, whatever that means.
ornate hamlet
Acknowledged doesn't mean anything yet
cyan notch
they acknowledge their crafting system is ass
strange wigeon
perhaps it's one of those things that got left behind by reworking of the archetype system, perhaps it's very strong on a specific build on the second or third class
so we're currently screwed
ornate hamlet
It seems to be radius
I stood roughly 2m from an enemy
And my epicenter is 2.1 m
And it hit them
cyan notch
max damage?
ornate hamlet
Yeah
It would be 1m distance if it was diameter
I did a bit more testing
Really hard to figure out where hitboxes are tbf
But center mass
It seems correct
near wyvern
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/psyker-trauma-staff-generates-twice-the-amoun...
Yeah the thing is, with Trauma when you see the 'warp resistance' and get numbers there, that's only how much a ful charge will cost, what it doesn't tell you is that you have additional fixed cost of actually casting the spell which goes from 10% at min charge to 25% at max charge.
So a 'good' warp resist roll will result in something like 16% low cast and 50% high cast where as a poop tier warp resist roll will result in 18% low cast and 55% high cast.
near wyvern
It seems correct
Then it's just that the number value is not large enough considering how enemies rarely stack within each others.
shadow onyx
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/psyker-trauma-staff-generates-twice-the-amoun...
it means that peril generation is way too high for this garbage dmg
near wyvern
Yeah so within a 2m radius = 4m diameter circle, you can have at best like 3 or 4 enemies
Under normal circumstances
gray pendant
So its a bug or just an upcoming buff?
steel vapor
Toughness or health for ye psykers?
gray pendant
I prefer toughness
ornate hamlet
gray pendant
But idk which is technically better
ornate hamlet
Toughness is also effectively more HP
But you need to manage it and it sometimes is just gone
manic needle
I'm actually digging to see if anyone posted about Surge blessing not working on Trauma, and Ive come across a couple threads about Trauma peril resist now.
Most of them dont have much interesting in them, just an "acknowledged" tag. However, in this post, Quickpaw suggests that the Peril generation on Voidstrike may be bugged and producing values below its intended cost.
Granted, they're just Community Support staff and not devs, but on the off chance that they do end up nerfing Voidstrike's peril generation I don't think it will be very well recieved.
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/trauma-staff-peril-gain/63862
gray pendant
But you need to manage it and it sometimes is just gone
Thats why i have deflect on fs for last resort
Cus we dont have a toughness regen feat do we?
cyan notch
I'm actually digging to see if anyone posted about Surge blessing not working on...
void is bugged tho
manic needle
void is bugged tho
Cool, leave it as is and call it a feature
cyan notch
Cool, leave it as is and call it a feature
nah it already gets transfer peril
steel egret
Trauma rending? The blessing?
Yeah, something about how its supposed to be brittleness.
But it currently is rending.
manic needle
Unless it's currently overpowered, there's no reason to rebalance it.
cyan notch
Unless it's currently overpowered, there's no reason to rebalance it.
i mean they can tweak it later but its flat out not working as intended
manic needle
In what way?
rocky cedar
But it currently is rending.
No it currently is brittle. The description is just wrong
cyan notch
instead of 15%
manic needle
Oh, that should only be a difference of around 5-10% peril per hit, I imagine
cyan notch
yea
west galleon
I dont want psyker to be a support class, thats homosensual 
median sorrel
that just makes me want it to be a support class even more
near wyvern
When you just have them all fall into your epicentre it makes an epic centre
that is at damnation
also, intrestingly the right click max distance for trauma is only horizontal, if you have a good lookout you can shoot anything below you
so it doesn't take into account the vertical distance
worthy wedge
Cus we dont have a toughness regen feat do we?
I'm a bit late, but Quietude (or whatever) regenerates toughness pretty good.
west galleon
that just makes me want it to be a support class even more
So if i were to say... psyker as suport is "super straight"...
What would your opinion on that be?
median sorrel
forest coral
go on
median sorrel
i thought i'd heard the last of the super straights
near wyvern
https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/S4KroDiPc7uGA/d1337TB05OCa...
Almost 60 peril to kill 6 targets while void can kill 6 targets and quell for more than the cost of the spell 
ornate hamlet
Or Purge that can kill 600 targets
forest coral
Surge holding a mob of elites in place whilst team blasts them apart 
surge when zap rng is hitting poxwalkers instead
median sorrel
it do be fun to hold a crusher in stunlock as the tiniest character model of a psyker
forest coral
dont get me wrong tho
its amazing, but best thing u could have with surge is a team in coms
median sorrel
none of my friends play regularly 
forest coral
median sorrel
near wyvern
Surge holding a mob of elites in place whilst team blasts them apart <a:SCWheheh...
Surge holding a mob of elites while the veteran is picking his nose figuring out what to do
Anyone from EU up for a 4 psyker run on Saturday evening to test if we can bust the scaling of AB + Kinetic Overload?
ornate hamlet
none of my friends play regularly <:ohgodwhy:1031830318539358249>
Time to make new friends.
ornate hamlet
Anyone from EU up for a 4 psyker run on Saturday evening to test if we can bust ...
Wdym?
austere estuary
oh I see we're talking trauma
wet jacinth
austere estuary
if you have about at least mid 50s quell and 80 charge speed you should be able to full charge from about 86 peril (when casting straight from quell from 100)
so should only really be spending 14 or so peril per cast in reality
though only getting to 86 peril from a couple ticks of quell leaves your full cast walling at as high as 99 which is kind of uncomfortable
that post being tagged as a bug is really interesting though
hoary hearth
I know stats are meh but can slaughterer compensate for that?
cyan notch
absolutely
austere estuary
it'll certainly make it up during hordes
hoary hearth
I'm currently playing with this one
austere estuary
might not help when you want to one shot a mutie or something but slaughter+deflector is never going to be terrible
hoary hearth
idk which one is better
austere estuary
personally I like that you have one with t3 deflector and stamina on it already - you could have the 'full' deflector combo there with stam and block eff 20%
so you could keep both and just use according to the rest of your build
hoary hearth
I'm running kinetic deflection so idk if it's gonna make a difference
austere estuary
stam/block deflection if you go all in on block eff on other trinkets
it does
stamina is used in the peril gen calculation
and since fs doesn't passively quell quickly, that's a big gain esp. when say ressing someone under heavy fire
hoary hearth
gonna try that when stam curios get fixed
austere estuary
personally I'd have that one you're already using as a deflector-centric one, and the other as a more clearing focussed one
and then see what you like
idle bay
gonna try that when stam curios get fixed
I tried (with broken stamina curios) with total 7 stamina and 65% Block Efficiency you can stand under fire of 2 Rippers, 2 Gunners and a swarm of shooters - stabilising peril gain at 41-42%
So just one working +3 stamina curio will make you immune to ranged.
cyan notch
reapers
idle bay
With 3 working +3 Stamina Curios i think passive (just holding block) of Demonhost will be possible with Force Sword, since peril gain will be so abysmal that slow passive quell may be enough
Just need to remember that Deflector do not block attacks from even slightly above you, and from the sides (like it's not 180 degrees but a bit smaller)
hoary hearth
When (if) we get crafting soon I might just melt the one with slaugherer and apply it do the other one
cyan notch
or snipers or fire
idle bay
or snipers or fire
That.. yes. For some reason Deflector do nothing vs Snipers... Devs are evil
ornate hamlet
Let them be Rippers 🙂 They suck too much to be called Reapers
Hey, be fair. Occasionally itll throw off a veteran’s aim enough for them to miss 3 entire shots before the entire party destroys it
Thats gotta count for something
hoary hearth
Does warp resistance on FS gives you less peril on deflection?
hoary hearth
So it's a dump stat?
idle bay
Yes
cyan notch
some would say so
idle bay
Well every stat on Force Sword is a dump stat really
It's not for fighting it's for Defelctor only
cyan notch
i dont personally want 45 peril on cast
idle bay
With occasioan rare special attack
cyan notch
nah first target and finesse are pretty important
idle bay
Ah.. i remember now. I took that random low stats FS just for build testting sake, and simply because it had +1 stamina perk already + Deflector
SO i did not care about stats
For real deal i have this one saved
near wyvern
Wdym?
AB seems to give any psyker a 10% chance to get a warp charge if a target dies under the effect of any soulblaze.
Kinetic overload makes you apply 4 stacks of soulblaze whenever you have max charges and gain a new one and it prioritises elites. As a solo psyker that's not very exciting. However in a party with 3 purge 1 surge all having psychic communion, AB and kinetic overload, the amount of warp charges generated should be insane, making the kinetic overload proc a shit ton, since there are 4 players it can proc from.
idle bay
And few more 370 base stats Force swords in stash 🙂
idle bay
AB seems to give any psyker a 10% chance to get a warp charge if a target dies u...
Someone tested it, it's not that great really 🙂
hoary hearth
I'm currently playing with this one
So I should just roll block efficiency on this one and then when crafting comes give it slaughterer?
austere estuary
AB seems to give any psyker a 10% chance to get a warp charge if a target dies u...
Yeah I've been wanting to see this in action 
the multi-psyker charge to melt infinite generation machine
seems like it could get pretty funny with a sustained horde + elites situation
cyan notch
i think it only gives one random psyker the charge per proc
austere estuary
i think it only gives one random psyker the charge per proc
oof
cyan notch
i do not know for certain i say this on pure anecdotal evidence
austere estuary
that would make some sense in stopping it spiralling like we're describing though, still 
ornate hamlet
Assuming my limited understanding of probability if everyone has purge and 10% chance its a 34.39% chance that a warp charge is gained by someone
If something set ablaze by everyone dies
near wyvern
i think it only gives one random psyker the charge per proc
Communion? Yes but that's just a tiny bonus, the real magic is with how purgatus staves and AB work together
ornate hamlet
And a 15% for Psychic Communion to proc for someone, per enemy.
cyan notch
Communion? Yes but that's just a tiny bonus, the real magic is with how purgatus...
for ab too
(again im not certain)
near wyvern
The only real way to find out is to gather 4 psykers in a voice channel here and test it
ornate hamlet
You will likely reach the max stack from just having 3 purge staffs
cyan notch
sometimes im flaming a whole ass horde and i get no charges and i see the guy beside me spinning with charges
near wyvern
The only thing about Kinetic Overload is that 4 stacks is
For a single proc yes. But the moment 2 person proc it you have 8 and that starts to tick already
cyan notch
the overload procs dont have the 15 cap i dont think
near wyvern
You will likely reach the max stack from just having 3 purge staffs
Max stack? You mean puratus soft cap, hard cap or blaze max stack?
ornate hamlet
Do we know if the purgatus staves stack cap is individual or per target though
near wyvern
Cause purgatus soft cap is 15, hard cap is 16 (last hit must be a crit) and blaze maximum cap is likely 31. Feats have no soft cap for how much they can increase the stacks.
ornate hamlet
It would be extra Fatshark to make it so that a lower tier purgatus doesn't help if a higher tier purgatus is hitting an enemy.
near wyvern
Do we know if the purgatus staves stack cap is individual or per target though
We don't. That's another reason to test shit out with multiple Psykers
hoary hearth
Question, do regular FS attack count as force weapon attacks?
ornate hamlet
That's some nasty stuff.
cyan notch
If you can reach 31 stacks with just two staffs
good luck testing that lol
near wyvern
@ornate hamlet
I spent an ungodly amount of hours of testing and writing but everything the community knows so far is here
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2917274959
near wyvern
If you can reach 31 stacks with just two staffs
You probably can't. Even if the stacking would not be individual, staves can't get past 16 and they get only to 16 if the last hit is crit but still they can only upkeep 15 stacks.
potent lotus
killing myself with it
wet jacinth
potent lotus
unless you had a good team and played sister then health was unlimited 
wet jacinth
Even if they did add it to darktide they would have to tweak the quell speeds when using non force weapons
ornate hamlet
good luck testing that lol
You just need to find a DH tbh
potent lotus
Even if they did add it to darktide they would have to tweak the quell speeds wh...
they would, you build up peril a lot quicker than vt2 heat at least how it feels
ornate hamlet
Though I guess if you run 4x Ascendant Blaze you can reach 16 stacks and then shout for another 16
ornate hamlet
<@456226577798135808>
I spent an ungodly amount of hours of testing and writin...
It says that you can upkeep the stacks with purgatus but that's not the behaviour I see in Psykarnum
near wyvern
It says that you can upkeep the stacks with purgatus but that's not the behaviou...
Just edited the entry, it was a leftover
ornate hamlet
👍
near wyvern
You can only upkeep greater stacks with a Blazing Spirit FS.
ornate hamlet
It's hard to test but wouldn't AB also likely be able to reset the duration of higher stacks?
Or has that been debunked
near wyvern
It's hard to test but wouldn't AB also likely be able to reset the duration of h...
Not only reset but possibly increase. At least the feat procs stack on top of each others
wet jacinth
so basically funny blue fire will BURN THE FUCC out of the target
near wyvern
Wrack and Ruin and Kinetic Overload stack on top of themselves that is. So it is likely you can AB into AB, but this is not possible to test solo since any target will die before you have chance to AB again
mighty pike
Why are the feats of the Psykinetic more like a pyrokinetic
near wyvern
<a:emoji_20:1034640465359810640> so basically funny blue fire will ***BURN THE F...
Regular enemies burn neatly at around 8 stacks. Elites and such at 15 to 16 stacks. At 20 or more any except crusher has only a few seconds to live basically. Especially if you start to combine things like excecutor on it.
near wyvern
So who wants to aggro some DH to test this
I can probably do today later in the night if you are from Europe
ornate hamlet
I am, though I will most likely be busy tonight.
mighty pike
After school club?
cyan notch
electronic union
near wyvern
I am avvailable Saturday CET 20:00-23:00 almost every week
For all funky testing stuff, or even just damnation or weeklies
near wyvern
electronic union
Yes that's the one for sure
mighty pike
I think I'm going to uninstall the game until major updates. Otherwise I'll get burned out and won't want to play it by the time that comes
near wyvern
Fair
cyan notch
i play to farm mats
near wyvern
Half the time I do research as well towards my PhD, other half I spend time with family. Then a couple times in a week I just don't sleep much so I can have an unhealthy gaming session here and there.
mighty pike
Half the time I do research as well towards my PhD, other half I spend time with...
What's your doctorate in
near wyvern
What's your doctorate in
Designing a motion capture system that uses Bluetooth and only single type of nodes (no separate 'master' device) for an affordable and scalable motion capturing system
long wharf
Designing a motion capture system that uses Bluetooth and only single type of no...
are the nodes in a full mesh? how will you handle the increased bandwidth requirements and latency due to being wireless?
half iron
Designing a motion capture system that uses Bluetooth and only single type of no...
this sounds like the task in medbay to me
near wyvern
are the nodes in a full mesh? how will you handle the increased bandwidth requir...
It's not a full mesh, it's basically a tree topology. The latency is not that bad, it's 7ms for a single hop.
mighty pike
I see the immediate picking apart of a concept has already begun
near wyvern
@long wharf if you want to see the results of the first prototype I can DM you the link to the whitepaper
long wharf
<@524039295317835797> if you want to see the results of the first prototype I ca...
I'm curious, that's all, sure
I've written serverless distributed applications
near wyvern
The most limiting factor is the capabilities of the receiver devices (for example mobile phones) since there is no way to work around them and many of them are very 'black box' you don't really know what is supported until you test it
long wharf
I'm not up to speed on the technical details of the latest Bluetooth spec
near wyvern
I'm not up to speed on the technical details of the latest Bluetooth spec
If there is one thing you want to know about modern Bluetooth remember this:
If it's a device that has anything to do with audio, do not buy unless it has the BLE version 5.2 or greater.
Any manufacturer who still sells audio devices (source or sink) with 5.1 is screwing you over and making the new version with 5.2 within a year or two if it's not already out. Some manufacturers already have it out so go there if in a hurry.
And then the question why 5.2 is so good over 5.1? It's because it supports data (audio and other) streams from one source (TV/phone) to multiple receivers (headphones) so you can both listen to the same movie with your wireless headphones. The tech even makes it possible for one user to listen it one language and another to listen to it using a different language and still in sync.
frozen osprey
question for the chat:
force or dueling sword and why?
near wyvern
question for the chat:
force or dueling sword and why?
Depends. What do you roll for your ranged weapon and build
frozen osprey
Depends. What do you roll for your ranged weapon and build
purgatus staff, no real focus on any build in particular ig
ornate hamlet
Force Sword lets you stagger any enemy with the push attack.
It also has infinite dodges, but they're tiny.
It does decent damage overall. The special is good sometimes.
Dueling Sword has incredible mobility, running, dodges and distance.
I think Dueling Sword stab staggers ragers out of attacks
I like the Knife though
ornate hamlet
Knife lets you outrun horde mobs though.
So check mate, nerd.
I'll see you at the finish line
ornate hamlet
Why are you burning them when you should be shooting them with your XII
tawny swallow
knife is just fun
near wyvern
purgatus staff, no real focus on any build in particular ig
With purgatus go with the duelling sword (or knife).
Non-force weapon auto quells 100 to 0 in 10 seconds after the 3 second delay. FS auto quells in 29 seconds. Dueling sword has better mobility which you want as purgatus needs to be in the right place in the right time and ready to Purge again.
frozen osprey
Why are you burning them when you should be shooting them with your XII
mayn if you're just gonna shoot them might as well play sharpshooter
near wyvern
Knife is best tho
ornate hamlet
mayn if you're just gonna shoot them might as well play sharpshooter
Sharpshooter
near wyvern
IMO
ornate hamlet
frozen osprey
With purgatus go with the duelling sword (or knife).
Non-force weapon auto quel...
sweet. that's what I've been using and I've definitely noticed it
ornate hamlet
If I ran Sharpshooter I'd use the Agrpi brauto (which I do)
To run down shooters
Like the horrible creations they are
XII is perfect for Psyker
near wyvern
Knife is like a one up for mobility from the duelling sword. It's not as easy to use but holy moly the knife is good if you know how to use it.
tawny swallow
the punch alt fire having the instant followup heavy attack is super nice for the knife tbh
ornate hamlet
The downside for Knife is bad horde clear but the dueling sword and fsword aren't really known for their horde clear, either.
near wyvern
the punch alt fire having the instant followup heavy attack is super nice for th...
It's not a heavy it's a mid. With knife light < special follow up < heavy = push attack
tawny swallow
huh
near wyvern
The downside for Knife is bad horde clear but the dueling sword and fsword aren'...
It's not that bad when you spam push attacks. It's definitely not the fastest but with the fast staggers from the push attack spam it's super safe to even kill an elite in the middle of the horde.
cyan notch
Not only reset but possibly increase. At least the feat procs stack on top of ea...
so i tested this and it does look like max stacks is 31 and AB does increase the stacks up to 31
ornate hamlet
I mean its very bad compared to actual horde clear weapons but there's not many of those.
near wyvern
How did you get up there? @cyan notch
ornate hamlet
Its like 1 poxwalker every 0.7s