psyker-class

[ornate hamlet]

Or you unload your incomparable mind on them

And they roll around for a bit

[floral solstice]

tell that to random knife zealots who die to 3 ragers

[shadow onyx]

@still hearth

[ornate hamlet]

Ay

What is this discrimination

But also yeah the Knife sucks against a group of ragers

[shadow onyx]

go c axe

[ornate hamlet]

Though you can just run away

https://tenor.com/view/jojo-run-away-joseph-joestar-jojos-bizarre-adventures-gif-15566885

[shadow onyx]

knife have huuge dodge you can back and forward with heavy dash no?

[floral solstice]

shouldn't even be possible considering knife's dodge, and chastise lets you burst one and stagger the other two

[ornate hamlet]

Yeah but they don't stop smacking the air

You can just trade blows tbh

But you can 100% run away from ragers with Knife

[shadow onyx]

even wxith double F to kill one

?

[ornate hamlet]

Why would you run double F on Knife

https://tenor.com/view/kyoukai-no-kanata-nase-hiromi-ew-disgust-gif-11102640

[shadow onyx]

because its based

[ornate hamlet]

Based on being worse

[shadow onyx]

you worse

idk even with crit everytime

the fact you cannot double f

its so sad for me

[ornate hamlet]

Double F is bad.

[light quail]

i am now a bootleg commissar
laspistol duelling sword on psyker

[fresh reef]

qp damnation
shooters spawn
wipe
repeat

time to play Heresy

[ornate hamlet]

Sounds like a staff issue

[fresh reef]

none of the staves can realistically handle a horde of shooters 100% of the time

[light quail]

big e just gave me this

[fresh reef]

(note that it has to be 100% because I'm always the last one standing)

[ornate hamlet]

My staff is a bit weird. Its shaped like a gun and shoots laser blasts. Something Kantrael XII?

[light quail]

thats why I play gunpsyker now

ranged enemies are too much of a nuisance to run a staff

[fresh reef]

I'm just trying to get better with AB

6 stacks can clear shooters, it's just a matter of getting to 6 stacks

[light quail]

thats the psyker problem

warp charges are a bitch to get and maintain

the psyka squad

[ornate hamlet]

The problem is that at the start of the mission your team should see you shoot flames

And go "ah, I don't have to clear hordes, nice"

But instead they go "what if I run ahead of the psyker flaming and take all the kills"

[manic needle]

If youre having problems with stacks you can add Psychic Communion to the rotation, assuming you dont already have it

Some people think AB + Communion is overkill with Purgatus though

[fresh reef]

I love when my team just doesn't turn around

[manic needle]

The harder you press W the better gamer you are

its understandable

[fresh reef]

the bulwarks literally walked right past them and onto me lol

I was spam pinging them and they just

didn't

turn

around

1000 dockets says they wipe here

shockingly they didn't turn around again

lmfao

it keeps getting funnier

shockingly, we wiped

never could've seen that coming

[manic needle]

But they pressed W so hard

[fresh reef]

they revived me twice, getting at least one of them killed in the process

instead of just, holding their ground somewhere

or maybe just turning the fuck around and we wouldn't be here to begin with

[ornate hamlet]

I've found that the way to win games

Is to be the person that turns around

Or steps back when everyone else is swinging

To just look around

Though that's mostly for Zealot gaming and I always have like 2 more Zealots in my groups

[steel egret]

mmm

a run in which you aim to gather crafting materials while rest of party hunts for chromosomes and xp.

[ornate hamlet]

But sometimes you get Vetrans that just.. https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/R59TJCkqVeg6k/TNggfLyMB0kZ?invite=cr-MSx6YlYsMTYwMDY1NDYwLA

[steel egret]

I personally force sword special crushers.

[near wyvern]

Lasgun on crusher

[steel egret]

Yeah thats

[fresh reef]

hey look at that, last one to die again

[near wyvern]

So it's your fault you wiped. You have to carry harder.

[fresh reef]

I think at this point I'm probably better off stacking hp, since if I go down it's a wipe anyway lmao

[fresh reef]

dude honestly

[uneven drift]

Ugh, Emrah's ways are weird sometimes.

[near wyvern]

As a psyker it's your duty to be ready to solo damnation

[steel egret]

No fun, just carry dogshit.

[ornate hamlet]

Tbf I'm pretty sure he crit enough to spare me one BB

So you know

[steel egret]

Always full carry setup

[ornate hamlet]

Technically helping

https://tenor.com/view/anime-laugh-gif-14348867

[steel egret]

I think you were just shocked to witness that.

[ornate hamlet]

I actually wrote in chat

And asked if they knew

And the other Vet and Ogryn both went

"Vet moment"

[steel egret]

For Cadiaa!

[ornate hamlet]

So if you run

Shred and Deadshot

That's 60% chance

To do more than 5 damage

https://tenor.com/view/think-smart-gif-22411928

[fresh reef]

queued back into the two vets I just wiped with

[near wyvern]

Profit

[fresh reef]

I wonder what happens next

[sonic aspen]

queue issue

[steel egret]

I've had that happen, I just block and leave game.

[ornate hamlet]

If you aren't the last person alive, you're the problem.

[steel egret]

Got barraged by "how staff shoot fast" with heavy breathing from Voice chat.

[ornate hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/paripi-koumei-eiko-tsukimi-thumbs-up-anime-gif-25479338

Always let allies die

Prove your superiority

[steel egret]

I mean

Psyker is least.. trustworthy of the gang I suppose.

Entrusting this guy to watch your back

Warp-Balding

[placid stratus]

First time opening this channel today, I'm greeted with this and I now have a violent urge to rip the back of his neck off with my teeth

[ornate hamlet]

I am sad I haven't clipped all the times Veterans are being Veterans.

[placid stratus]

I'm glad I'm not like that

Cuz I'd hate myself too if I was lol

[steel egret]

I've had pretty long-winded conversations on Assassination missions with "ranged only" veterans.

[placid stratus]

Some people just refuse to listen

"Some" in this case being the majority when it comes to Vet players

[light quail]

the walmart commissar

*now with space magic

[steel egret]

Well there is always odd level 17 psyker who uses nothing but BB.

or shield ogryn who obviously just has it for himself.

[placid stratus]

Yeah, but I keep my expectations low for psykers because it's not exactly the most straightforward to play

[placid stratus]

I have no comment on these ones, though

[light quail]

as a shieldgry, I dont associate with those people

#1 rule of shieldgryn is to not be selfish with it

you can, on a whim, become portable cover for all the little uns

[ornate hamlet]

#1 rule of shieldgryn is to play Deflector Psyker instead

[light quail]

[ornate hamlet]

What pains me

Is that

You can't animation cancel the block break on shield

[steel egret]

well to be fair they rarely are 30 if ever.

[ornate hamlet]

Because for some reason is scuffed af

[maiden knoll]

Sad thing is level 30 psyker trying to kill mutie an heresy with bb taking forever

[steel egret]

yeah that.. I dont want to see

if they have surge staff or force sword especially

[iron marten]

If a special is pinged and highlighted and I'm standing behind my shieldgryn can I still BB it or do I have to have actual sight of it like with most cover?

[ornate hamlet]

Allies don't block BB

So you can stand inside the Ogryn and BB blind

[iron marten]

Niiice

[manic needle]

Yeah only fences and railings have that privilege

[bold flint]

just because an ogryn has a shield it doesnt magically turn him into geometry

[ornate hamlet]

This is why I bring my XII, since railings can't block lasers.

[iron marten]

My friend who plays only Vet goes exclusively revolver so he can shoot through them. He hates ogryn but I don't have that issue with my meat shield buddies.

[bold flint]

i bring my void staff because it can clip the top of the heads of shooters who hide behind cover

and theyll blow up

[steel egret]

[ornate hamlet]

As long as Ogryns know how to move to the side when fighting

[placid stratus]

I hate ogryns who seem to make it their sole mission to completely block your shots

[ornate hamlet]

Its okay

If they aren't even trying to get out of the way

That's when you roll your eyes.

[bold flint]

if you have a staff you can breath easy

[placid stratus]

I've said this to Vanessa before, and I'll say it here

[steel egret]

friendly damage difficulty.

[ornate hamlet]

Ogryn + 3 Psykers. Put your shield down and the Psykers spam through you

https://tenor.com/view/think-smart-gif-22411928

[placid stratus]

If there was true friendly fire, there would be a lot more dead ogryns in the matches I get one

[iron marten]

Leveling my vet with Ogryns is tough sometimes because they do tend to just charge ahead of all my shots instead of from the side

[ornate hamlet]

A lot of maps are claustrophobic tbf

[bold flint]

this is my average ogryn experience

[ornate hamlet]

Can't do much on a walk-way for 2 normal people

[placid stratus]

Pain

[ornate hamlet]

I mean he got out of the way pretty fast.

Bad Ogryns would just keep moving forward

[placid stratus]

Then psyker did a psyker

[ornate hamlet]

Psyker: Peeks and instantly dodges away.

[steel egret]

even on psyker I tend to hug walls.

[ornate hamlet]

Ogryn: Something is tickling my ass. Oh, right. Moves aside.

Then again

You're running a Laspistol

So I disapprove

[steel egret]

laspistol psyker gun special force push.

[steel egret]

Sparky! Catch!

[light quail]

honestly the force push isnt too bad
has noticably more range than standard weapon pushes, can be good for a quick bit of stun before swapping to melee or taking out a poxburster safer

[fresh reef]

worth investing in?

[light quail]

just gotta time it right

[light quail]

oh if that were a mk V

[fresh reef]

I don't like mk5, personally

[light quail]

this is me current one and it has some nutty heavies

melee weak spot is a must have on duelling swords if you ask me

could buy it and try for the reroll

[ornate hamlet]

If only it did 8% damage as it should.

[fresh reef]

[steel egret]

I just build peril with it.

[light quail]

oh my
I would be in heaven if I rolled that

[steel egret]

its 10m

[ornate hamlet]

I need Uncanny Strike on my Knives.

[fresh reef]

maybe I should give it another shot, since I'm running purg today

[ornate hamlet]

Fun thing

Uncanny Strike will affect your soulblaze

So you can burn Crushers

[light quail]

with purg its perfect
you have the horde clear and special murking power in both weapons respectively

[fresh reef]

ok well now I'm defo gonna try it out

[ornate hamlet]

Can you record it in Psykarnum? I've only done it with the flamer on Zealot since I have no rending on Psyker

I'd like to see what damage values it can come up to

Especially since Soulblaze lasts longer so you lose less DPS than the flamer

And you can quick swap

[wet jacinth]

Funny blue fire

[light quail]

just upgraded my current one for the laughs
hadron
hadron i love you

[fresh reef]

anything in particular or just the usual crusher test?

[wet jacinth]

On a mkV too which iirc has heavy overheads

[light quail]

yes

two overheads

I am going to shitmix stuff

[wet jacinth]

I've heard people like that one because of the increased dodge distance

[placid stratus]

Yup, you zoom with Mk V

[light quail]

yeah it has good dodging but I like it for the power

[wet jacinth]

I believe it's the MkIV? With 2 stabs for heavy is my preference

[placid stratus]

I've been trying to get a good Mk II because of the cleave damage mod

[wet jacinth]

Gotta have my Saltzpyre itch

[still hearth]

Just the crusher really

[placid stratus]

Here's the Mk V I've got

I run crit chance on it due to me having a crucian roulette HHAG because I'm a fraud and don't know how to play this class

[fresh reef]

file too larj
tested with six stacks of SB with and without full stacks of rending

seems to be fairly insignificant, with a short lifetime on the debuff

but it is only a level 2 blessing

[still hearth]

Interesting

I wonder if the DoTs have high damage bonuses to certain types

What damage numbers did you get on max stacks+

[fresh reef]

@still hearth 3/tick without rending, 15/tick with max stacks

not sure if the duration scales with blessing tier but if it does

hoo boy

could see this being shnasty

also, def gonna run this particular dueling sword more

just realized that defences and mobility both have dodge distance modifiers

that fucking stack

[still hearth]

That's pretty nutty

[rocky cedar]

So unstable power is just another worthless blessing diluting the pool yeah?

Just upgraded a FS to yellow and got that 😢

[bold flint]

yea probably

[frail berry]

Does the soul blaze effect from kinetic overload receive the benefits on the 2nd half of ascendant blaze (enemies killed by our soulblaze effects from any source have a 10% change to grant you a warp charge)?

[rocky cedar]

Pretty sure that works for all forms of soul blaze

[bold flint]

well it does say any source

when they say that they mean it

[still hearth]

It should but that's hard to confirm

[rocky cedar]

It definitely seems to work for blazing spirit soul blaze

So presumably it's everything yeah

[frail berry]

will try it out 😄

[wet jacinth]

One reason people love MkV

Dummy long Dodge

[wet jacinth]

Mission control. When more beers?

[long wharf]

AB doesn't care how soulblaze was applied to the enemy that just died

[oblique walrus]

Is there any reason not to take the brain burst on hit trait? It just seems to just always proc for me

[ornate hamlet]

For the penance requiring max warp charges for 5 minutes is that consecutive or total?

[long wharf]

consecutive

[long wharf]

having 6 warp charges for Ascendant Blaze allows you to kill groups of shooters and the horde easily

[ornate hamlet]

Thank you

[oblique walrus]

Hmmmm mabey ill try it

[crude talon]

Go into training to test our soul blaze stuff.

IIRC it was like 22 per tick on walkers with 4 WCs and like 38 with 6 WCs

Prolly blessings to augment that or something? Idk. I personally like the BB feat a lot tho

It’s just satisfying

[long wharf]

soulblaze damage needs a major buff

[crude talon]

I think the only reason it’s that low is so it doesn’t make the purg staff OP but idk

[bold flint]

it ticks for a long duration, thats about it

[crude talon]

A 4 charge ascendant blaze will kill a horde in like ~10 seconds but by that time someone’s shot the horde a bunch or flamed it or power sworded it or whatever

So you’re essentially trying to melt some of the back to “soften” the horde.

Or gunners

[safe pendant]

Shotgunners should have their stagger adjusted. Those dudes can take a lot of damage and won't stop shooting and moving before dying

[crude talon]

Shotgunners are fucking assholes

Do any of y’all like running Purg staff and FS? I’ve been memeing on it the last couple days

[safe pendant]

Not I. I use Purge with Knife

[ornate hamlet]

I do

[crude talon]

I just really like the charge attack on FS lol

Blowing up elites and ogryn is fun with it

[ornate hamlet]

Yeah same

I just try to use the unique weapons classes offer instead of the basic ones they can all use. Makes it a little more fun for me

[slow karma]

I prefer a good antax combat axe

Those things are beastly

[crude talon]

I think it’s kinda good. Like, FS for elites, purge for the hordes, BB for long range

Plus purge ends up murdering elites in the horde too

[ornate hamlet]

I’m just waiting for an FS with good rolls and the Jedi blessing and I’ll be good to go on my psyker

[crude talon]

I have a 51% on damage and it’s like heavy is 96 and one at 80% that’s at 106 for a heavy. I basically use the one I do for deflector since it’s the 9% one

[shadow onyx]

best combo

[crude talon]

But it has blazing spirit on it and that makes me wanna puke

[ornate hamlet]

The only time I don’t have fun with my FS + purge staff is when I get stuck with shitter veterans that refuse to handle shooters in the back but oh well

That’s what BB is for

[placid stratus]

Ditto

A psyker who isn't pulling their weight is not too troubling to deal with in my experience, but

A vet who refuses to do the same is agony

[near wyvern]

This is what I call a man

[safe pendant]

I started with Zealot so it's bleeding into my other classes

[crude talon]

Knife is fun af

Gimme a force knife tho

[fresh reef]

Give force caestus

[crude talon]

I’m just a sucker for class specific weapons on stuff like psyker tho. On zealot it’s different for me because I like axing people questions on that class

[fresh reef]

My Seer just said "It's like a tide of them!"

We did it

Roll credits

[frank hazel]

Amazing

[hoary hearth]

I've done it

[magic burrow]

noice

[placid stratus]

Now do the other one

[safe pendant]

Best pants for the Psyker ever

[slow karma]

I can't hardly target brain burst that smoothly so I know I'll never get this one

[safe pendant]

That makes me wonder how people with controllers use brain burst if the controls rely on precise movement to target the right thing.

[slow karma]

It's more line of sight

With that many specials around, you're not JUST fighting specials

A hoard can easily target block a special in the thick of it

These penanes are asinine

Penances*

[wet jacinth]

[hoary hearth]

Already did it

[placid stratus]

Amazing

Now all you gotta do is grind missions and you will become drip

[hoary hearth]

Now I have to figure out what missions i've played

after not playing psyker for a month

[wet jacinth]

I still need to kamikaze 3 elites

[fresh reef]

how would you guys feel if shotgunners were just removed?

[frail berry]

Which raiment is that?

[ornate hamlet]

Finally got the Jedi blessing. First target roll sucks but It'll do for now

[fresh reef]

[wet jacinth]

Hood is from the shop.
Top is Mortis set from the premium purchase of the game (like 20$ more)
The pants is from the penance for brain bursting several different elites.

[devout sentinel]

Any1 can tell me the base crit stats of the staff ?
Extra Points for sauce ofc :)

[vast oasis]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2905188402

@devout sentinel

[long wharf]

the surge staff is the only staff with increased base crit

psyker base crit is 5%

[devout sentinel]

I want a real source not some post that is made up and descriptions written by hand not by evidence. Not wanna sound offensive but i tested multb things from this guide and they are wrong.

[devout sentinel]

What do you mean with INCREASED ?

[long wharf]

the surge staff as a crit between 5% and 20%, IIRC

if a weapon doesn't have a crit modifier, then it doesn't have a crit chance above the class' base crit chance

[wanton cove]

Any word on an update this week? General is to chaotic to ask 😵‍💫

[devout sentinel]

Search for the 3 Mods name top right and check for posts . Shouldnt be a new post besides the one from Aqshy and Catfish

[long wharf]

nobody has said anything, as far as I'm aware

[feral topaz]

@idle bay I know what you told me about purgatus, this is the option that I can buy rn, how much is cloud a dealbreaker?

[idle bay]

it will do for now

[slow karma]

Ok! I have indeed just finished my first couple Heresy missions. This is doable!

[devout sentinel]

@feral topaz thats with 76% it affects range+cone

[feral topaz]

Aha

[devout sentinel]

warp res and quell speed are the stats that you can dumb more than the others but would rather dumb warp restistance because you can still have some from your feat+warp charges (inner tranqulity)

having good quell speed also helps if you have high costs - hope that was somewhat clear

[feral topaz]

yeah I figured that but I literally have no purgatus staff in my inventory rn lol

[devout sentinel]

if it is currently better than your own one -purchase. if not - keep waiting - OR buy it and upgrade to green and check if the 1st blessing is alrdy a usefull

take it if you have none

its just damnation at the end of the day . more dmg = more efficiency/speed
but thats mine also not much better

[feral topaz]

wellp

this is what I got

Ill keep it on standby, would rather find high end voidstrike/surge

with my luck, whenever I take flamer, I end up with other flamers

[devout sentinel]

yep but its always nice to be able to adapt in a team in my opinion

keep it and ye the blessing is mediocre but you can use him anyway

[olive ember]

Nah why adapt to the team when the team should be adapting to you kek

[feral topaz]

nah I see the value in it if Im playing with friends but I learnt when pubbing not to assume much.

[devout sentinel]

Also for all the myths out there with Purgatus damage

(Tested on infested walkers ofc!)
Purg Staff with 20% Infested Damage
29 instant damage 2dps (burning)
41 melee damage

Purg Staff WITHOUT 20% Infested Damage
24 instant dmage 1dps (burning)
34 melee Damage

Perks ASWELL as the damage stat do apply. further testing soon

[lethal folio]

Perks always apply to anything you do while holding the weapon.

[safe crystal]

Fellow psykers, lets say i've played with purg, surge and voidstrike way too much, and i want to play trauma staff. What blessings am i looking for? Im guessing rending shockwave would be one of the better ones, but not sure about the other one

[wanton cove]

Thank you! Appreciate it. Back to waiting for now

[long wharf]

good luck

[devout sentinel]

Playstyle like surge . Be supportive cc more than anything else . Warpnexus + surge/blazing spritit is an option

[idle bay]

I was in heresy mission. So Only short answer was made 🙂 It close enough to have good stats that required from Purgatus and with general psyker staff starvation in store that staff is godsent!

[feral topaz]

Yeah, the other day I saw a surge staff that had useless perk and blessing, now I realise in hindsight the baseline was 80 points higher than my current one and I passed it up due to my minmax tendencies

I hate dis

[idle bay]

Well blessings are mostly irrelevant on Surge anyway, and you just need + Flak damage perk on it really

[feral topaz]

....I dun goofed

I wish I could upgrade baseline because I found this randomly

[ornate hamlet]

Best way to complete going out with a bang penance? (suicide bomb 3 elites)

[idle bay]

Teamwork to bully 3 gunners or shotgunners in a pile and go boom

[worn cypress]

queue up damnation, usually enough elites in the first pack

go blow up

[idle bay]

Low intensitivity recomended - less trash to distract you and less specials

[ornate hamlet]

Thank you

[worn cypress]

helps if doing it with friends (or with ppl in lfg) helping herd them for you

[split oxide]

Where can you find 3 gunners next to each othre ... rescue point?!

[feral topaz]

another way to go about it is have a vet buddy weaken a group of maulers, few bullets each, then go kamikaze into them

[idle bay]

Chasm Termiuns one of the best for it right at start. Espionage at lower hive too

[split oxide]

Feels like some Penances are so convoluted.

• it's not a 'FEAT' it's a certificate of 'I got 3 other people to set this up for me'

[worn cypress]

yeah theres a lot of criticism around how bullshit many of them are

flat out makes you play against the best interest of your team sometimes

[split oxide]

"got 3x other players to wear the same cosmetics and detonate simultaneously"? .. FEAT

[idle bay]

LFG channel can help. I did mine that way and helped 9 other Psyker to get that penance as well (never more - i'm in therapy afther that stupid thing)

[split oxide]

https://tenor.com/view/why-huh-but-why-gif-13199396

[idle bay]

Penances were made by dev who enjoyes playing soccer with a bowling ball, barefooted on field seeded with legos and while it's snowing. And i have a gif of it!

[split oxide]

Penances are made up by people who think it's funny to all arrive at work wearing joke sunglasses while talking "pirate".
I swear they have labcoats recording this social experiment for their marketing team.

[feral topaz]

penances were made by people who got traumatized during the Nintendo DS era

[idle bay]

Developers of Penances having fun!

[split oxide]

erm... there are some cultures who play football/soccer with hard objects.. not sure if coconnt/tortoiseshell or similar.

[idle bay]

Argh.. 380 more missions for that cool frame

How bold of the to think that anyone will play 1000 missions in this broken game 🙂

[safe pendant]

I grow spiteful when I see someone with that frame speeding into the next zip code in a mission

I'm taking my time thank you

[idle bay]

I'v gone that far by taking my time and going slow paced. I only speedrun T1-2 because there are no reason not to. You can dickslap a keyboard and complete it in 13-14 minutes usually

But when on malice or heresy then there is no need to rush 🙂

[safe pendant]

I'm just a spiteful person. I'll complete the objectives yes but the rest is on them to do

It's probably just a case of sour grapes that I don't get to spend as much time playing the game as they do

[idle bay]

Scriptures and Grims can be speedruned as well if you know the spots

[boreal cave]

the emperors himself

[rocky cedar]

Some info about rending shockwave from the forums for my fellow trauma enjoyers (yes all 2 of you)

Quickly tested in meat grinder and it seems to be accurate

TL;DR rending shockwave isn't quite a bad as I thought

[wet jacinth]

[long wharf]

sigh, just further proof that the PR description of the psyker was just lies

psyker was always intended to be a support class

not a glass cannon

[idle bay]

Dried Rice Paper Support, not even Glass Support 🙂

And best tank at the same time...

[wanton cove]

So weird af going back into vermintide 2 playing sienna and then back to psyker

[wanton cove]

Hope at some ping we can get the best of both worlds lol

Point*

[long wharf]

"at some point", that's a lot of copium right there

[wanton cove]

At some point is Darktides entire vibe right now 😬

[long wharf]

sadly

[wet jacinth]

Copium

Gimme some of that shit

Where is it

[crude talon]

I enjoy being made of paper actually

[warped perch]

In tier 2 feats for purg should I run psykinetic’s wrath or inner tranquility?

[crude talon]

The 6% peril res per warp charge one

More peril res = more damage

I’m sure some nerd had actual math on it out there but I’m stupid so I don’t know it

But 24 or 36% peril res is based

[devout sentinel]

tranquil > other 2

[slow karma]

Yeah nah

I am no good at veteran. I'm parkin' this one for good

[crude talon]

The math for a purge staff means you get either 0.5 points of extra damage to 1.6 points of extra damage for the wrath feat

[night condor]

Don’t tell the other classes but you guys are the best.

[warped perch]

[warped perch]

[light quail]

i fucking hate the hitreg

headshot on a sniper
doesnt kill and I get killed

revolver

why

[devout sentinel]

brainburst > aim

[dusky whale]

Brainburst?

[slow karma]

Yeah my favorite thing about brainburst is the sticky targetting

grab a lock on your problematic special and duck behind cover while you explode brains

[devout sentinel]

Wish i could always duck behind cover to burst my problems

[light quail]

the revolver would be so good

but it has some obvious hitreg issues

twice i have died in this one level due to blank headshots

[devout sentinel]

never had issues- must be a YOU problem there

[light quail]

nah
I hear the headshot sound (the ka-chink sounding one) but no hitmarker/kill

[slow karma]

That statement is needlessly hostile.

let me rephrase

The phrasing of that statement is needlessly hostile.

When it comes to hit registration, one's connection and system are more of an issue than the game itself.

So that's more what "a you problem" tends to be.

Neither of which aren't particularly easy to pinpoint and solve.

[rigid blade]

Purgatus, quell speed is a dump stat right?

Found a 338 with all stats 70+ except for quell which is 38

[lethal plover]

another day and no news eh

[dull haven]

Got this in the shop for psyker lol

[regal musk]

Sort of depends on how well you handle your peril buildup in general.
It should be fine though if the warp resistance is high enough

[rigid blade]

I think I do decently well

[manic needle]

Okay, finally got around to testing out Surge blessing on Trauma staff

It definitely seems like it doesn't work with the RMB attack after spamming it on a Crusher in the meatgrinder for quite some time

Using LMB clearly displays two numbers on crit - the yellow number from the crit hit plus the extra white number from the free hit with surge

RMB only displays one number and doesnt chunk the health bar like you'd expect a double hit with RMB to

[maiden wolf]

Impeccable

[manic needle]

Emperor Moment

[maiden wolf]

The MK1 has a really good moveset.

[cloud heron]

any bad emporer's gift is just the result of a plot by a servant of nurgle to try and trick you into losing faith

[rocky cedar]

What are the pros for I? I've always used IV

[grizzled iris]

The MK1 has the worst moveset together with the MKVII, MK IV has only cleave lights and a overhead first heavy. MK I limits you to only cleave, MK VII limits you to do a cleave into overhead for damage.

[maiden wolf]

It has a braindead heavy attack pattern.

[floral solstice]

mk iv has light1-heavy2 cleave pattern

[forest coral]

No more axe, use duelling sword

[vagrant cedar]

Day 38 with no updates

[rare furnace]

Emperor got broke

[rare furnace]

Someone told me that afte 3 months from release we get a sub class

So end of February will have actually update

[cold mesa]

i just realised i have a perfect psyker tac axe on my zealot

goddammit

[forest coral]

it be like that

[gilded viper]

Is it technically gun psyker if you’re just using the revolver for crucian roulette memes?

[forest coral]

although I seem to get all the luck on psyker

[cold mesa]

also, not gonna lie, i feel catachan swords only have a working niche on zealot and even there it's not very good

[forest coral]

i feel its ok with surge staff imo since it covers for the staffs shortcomings in a horde

but then again, why would u use that when u can use a duelling sword that has some semblance of armor pen and arguably controls hordes even better

[gilded viper]

But why not use a dueling sword for hordes that at point?

Or hell mk5 axe

I like mk5 a bunch

[cold mesa]

or tac axe!

[forest coral]

mk5 is straight up best all rounder melee weapon in game with bm

[gilded viper]

Bm?

[forest coral]

bloody momentum

[cold mesa]

brutal momentum

[forest coral]

oh wait

brutal

heh

zealot with mk5 is absolute monster

[cold mesa]

hmmm, i for the most part prefer the tac axe for psyker/zealot

[forest coral]

I go fs with purg/ void or duelling sword mkii with surge

i feel axe is just slightly too slow for me as a psyker but its just a preference thing

[cold mesa]

the tac axe is better in most regards except for dealing with ogryns. Psyker has a tool for dealing with ogryns decently well built in and zealot generally takes a ranged weapon that can gun them down fairly easily if needed

[gilded viper]

I’ve been doing some melee focused psyker outa boredom mostly and, the blessing for bullet guns that gives you more crit chance the less rounds in the chamber gives normal crit chance, not ranged crit chance.
Meaning you can get some crazy amount of crits going

[cold mesa]

yeah crucian

is a fun meme

not overly powerful

but interesting

[forest coral]

I hope they dont patch it out

[gilded viper]

Same

[forest coral]

it sounds like such a cool build

[cold mesa]

even on zealot who has crit synergies it's largely considered good (depending on the melee its used with) but not overly powerful

definitely weaker than anything with a flamer lol

[gilded viper]

I mean, it makes crit zealot a lot easier on non dagger for sure. Which is already a huge selling point for me

[forest coral]

crit zealot with antax v and bm would be absolutely ridiculous

provided someone deals with ranged specials for them

but ye

[cold mesa]

not really? like it makes you more survivable in melee, but for the most part surviving in melee isn't the issue as zealot

and it kneecaps your ranged ability

[forest coral]

its the shootie bois

[cold mesa]

yeah

[gilded viper]

You can just charge, and there’s that perk that removes ranged slowdown

Also grenades

[forest coral]

and in damnation, i feel what wrecks most non gun zealots are like rippers paired with scab shotgunner or heavy gunners

[cold mesa]

ranged enemies often spread out, charging isn't the answer there

[gilded viper]

I think you’re underselling it personally. I might miss my bolter especially dealing with bulwarks

[forest coral]

especially if they were a little too charge happy

[gilded viper]

Yah but crit zealot gets charge back faster

[cold mesa]

rippers? you mean reapers

[forest coral]

yes that

[cold mesa]

actually unless you're literally clearing a horde the 2 charge feat is more beneficial for that

for the most part the 2 charge feat gives you access to a second charge when you need it, while the reduced cooldown on crit gives you it when you kinda don't

[gilded viper]

You are aware the 2nd charge doesn’t recharge independently right? It’s one after another

[cold mesa]

yes

but you don't just charge on cooldown

there's a lot of time when you don't need to charge

so you build up the stacks then

[gilded viper]

I’m not even suggesting running into a firing line. You shouldn’t be that split up anyhow. Also like, it isn’t gonna kill yah to just use your gun normally

Your gun still works, and it only takes a few seconds to reload

[cold mesa]

yeah, and if you're using your gun normally you're better off without crucian cos headhunters suck

and revolvers take longer to set up crucian/reload

[gilded viper]

I don’t agree

[cold mesa]

most of the time as zealot when you need to pull out your gun it's rather urgent

[bold flint]

does the psyker have access to braced autoguns

[cold mesa]

also crucian absolutely neuters your bosskilling

no

cos neither hh or rev do any decent sustained dps to unyielding

[gilded viper]

If we cared about only playing exclusively what was best always all the time, everyone would only play veteran sharpshooter

[forest coral]

they do

[cold mesa]

...sure, and i said crucian was good but not the absolute strongest and was a fun meme, you're the one who said i was underselling it

[gilded viper]

I ain’t speedrunning damnation, but I clear it frequently even with pugs. If it makes it to the end of the mission without feeling like a burden, it’s good.

[cold mesa]

is it good? yeah sure, being more survivable in melee and making good melee weapons better are good traits and it's fun to use. but it definitely comes with decently large downsides

i run crucian from time to time cos it's fun, and you're definitely not being a burden

[gilded viper]

“Decently large downsides” is just a wrong statement. I said you were underselling it because you type like it’s awful

[cold mesa]

...i'm not tho? most builds have downsides

also, you can't argue that being forced to run pretty bad guns for the class isn't a decently large downside

[fresh halo]

Worth upgrading, siblings ?

[forest coral]

[fresh halo]

Not my favorite Mk, but oh well

[forest coral]

I like mk ii moveset more but honestly they’re all fairly similar

[fresh halo]

I tend to prefer Mk IX

[forest coral]

That’s very good blessing and finesse tho

[fresh halo]

But agreed, they all operates fairly similarly

I'll keep that in mind. Thank you, sibling !

[manic needle]

If I ever do a Dueling Sword, it'll be a Mk. V so I can be a dodgey boi who pokes elites

[forest coral]

Duelling sword enthusiasts

[fresh halo]

I like it for its block efficiency and its stamina

Blocking hordes on Damnation feels effortless

With Kinetic Deflector, that is

Duelling Swords are great

[forest coral]

They’re agile enough to deal with most monstrosities solo too

[wheat quartz]

I like Dueling mk 5 with Purgatus

The weakness of the dueling sword is horde, but the flamer takes care of that

Spammable strike down heavies are nice, shred is nice, insane dodge slide range is very nice, passive quell speed with kinetic deflection is nice

[forest coral]

the dodge slide solving much of psyker's life problems

[wheat quartz]

Yeah one dodge slide is often enough space to charge up the flamer and solve the problem without a worry

Also moving between positions with dueling dodge slide is faster than holding down deflector force sword, if more risky

[forest coral]

iirc force sword has infinite dodges, just shorter awkward runs right?

[bold flint]

i never run with the sword out

but yeah, drains real fast

[vagrant cedar]

1 sub class for 1 character?

or for entire row?

maaaaaaaan i don't believe that, someone said they are working on SINGLE PLAYER mode, for this ONLINE CO-OP game

who cares about the sub-classes when there's not enough content to enjoy end-game

who cares about single player mode

they should be making MAPS

and fun game modes

[placid stratus]

I mean

Who's to say they aren't working on those?

[vagrant cedar]

the lack of news i guess

or communication

[placid stratus]

I'd wager that's a good thing

The more things they promise, the more likely that they'll break said promise

[vagrant cedar]

it's not like they promised shit before

atleast it would be fun and give people hope that atleast some stuff is coming out

like a realistic road map

like most games in early access has

[placid stratus]

FS tried a roadmap before, it did not work out

A lot of people got very pissed

[vagrant cedar]

they should hire the guys who made VT and VT2

implement all the features

[placid stratus]

That wouldn't change much, seeing that VT1 & 2 also launched in very atrocious states

[vagrant cedar]

yes but those guys already ahve experience tho

vs fresh team

[placid stratus]

Bold of you to assume that FS learns from their mistakes

[vagrant cedar]

i know i know, that's my flaw in believing in people

[forest coral]

if anything I think they learned that they can get away with half arsed launches from vermintide

[placid stratus]

Best thing to do is simply wait and let them work in silence

[frozen osprey]

font shamble

[vagrant cedar]

i guess they got lucky the game isn't called Vermintide 3 then

[forest coral]

Im still playing since I know theyve basically pulled this off multiple times

[vagrant cedar]

they rode the Warhammer hype

[fierce sinew]

expecting nothing and being pleasantly surprised if you turn out to be wrong probably the strat yeah

[forest coral]

and usually have something decent given some time

[placid stratus]

Exactly

[vagrant cedar]

have you guys played VT2?

[placid stratus]

Yes

[forest coral]

yup

[vagrant cedar]

can you explain me how the chests work?

[frozen osprey]

naw

[vagrant cedar]

cause i see the limit is 300, but i get pretty much same level crap

[frozen osprey]

well, chests are items constructed for holding items, usually of various types

[vagrant cedar]

slap yourself

[dreamy lynx]

what level are you in the game?

[placid stratus]

What exactly about chests confuses you?

[frozen osprey]

do it yourself

[vagrant cedar]

32

[forest coral]

extra weapon drops and the higher your difficulty and tier of chest

[placid stratus]

That's your problem

[forest coral]

more chance of getting reds

[dreamy lynx]

whats the level of your current gear?

[placid stratus]

Max level is 35

[vagrant cedar]

~195

[placid stratus]

That's also a problem

[oblique hemlock]

The higher power score you equip the higher power score items you find

[placid stratus]

^

[vagrant cedar]

i opened like 20 boxes or something, and my gear went from 175 to 190

[placid stratus]

Always equip your highest rated items before opening chests

[oblique hemlock]

Yeah, it's that game over and over til you reach max

[forest coral]

your power score will be incrementally gained from your current power level

[vagrant cedar]

having them in the inventory doesn't mean the same? I gotta have it always equipped?

[forest coral]

the gear gained will deviate around.... -5 +5 iirc?

[placid stratus]

Yes, because equipping items affects your hero power

[dreamy lynx]

reds start appearing with super slim chance at the emperor champion

at level 35 a super slim chance with the commendation chests

[forest coral]

ya but also can be grinded out

[oblique hemlock]

-5 to +15

[placid stratus]

You can always unequip them after you're finished opening chests, of course

[dreamy lynx]

so much faster to just play legend though if you want reds

[forest coral]

thats also true

[dreamy lynx]

or legend chaos wastes for true speed

they have nerfed it from what i hear though

or nerfed how good your boons can be

[forest coral]

cataclysm chaos wastes with funny twitch add ons

was the most chaotic fun i had even if success rate was like 10%

[oblique hemlock]

Chaos wastes is insane gear farm and leveling

[vagrant cedar]

Do I open all the chest i got the moment I get them? Or is it better to save the Emperor ones for when my Item level goes to 300?

[oblique hemlock]

Up to you

[dreamy lynx]

are they champion ones?

[cyan notch]

just open em all

its easier for levelling no need to think about it open everything

[dreamy lynx]

if youre wanting to be efficent in getting reds and don't think youre good enough for legend for a while

save commendation chests til level 35

[placid stratus]

^

[dreamy lynx]

can reds even drop below max power level?

[cyan notch]

no dont save commendation chests

just fuckin open everything

[vagrant cedar]

that's what i got now

[cyan notch]

open all your garbage youre slowing your max level drops by not opening

[dreamy lynx]

yeah like i said. if you think you're far off skill wise for doing legend consistently. and you want reds asap. save those for power 300

if youre doing chaos wastes at champion though, then open all the champ ones

[vagrant cedar]

i feel like it will take me another 100 boxes to reach 300

[dreamy lynx]

if you make sure to equip your highest level stuff prior to openening, it wont

[cyan notch]

you are mostly likely not going to get reds from commendation chests

[oblique hemlock]

Crafting also helps a lot

[cyan notch]

so the off chance you get one isnt worth it when youre low level

[vagrant cedar]

fair enough

time to open them up

[cyan notch]

you are boosting all your drops by opening more chests

once your drops start to be level 300 then you can hoard if you like

[vagrant cedar]

commendium first or the emperor, or it don't matter?

[dreamy lynx]

you'll probably get a red per 30 commendations

[vagrant cedar]

oo the red insta gives you 300

okok

[cyan notch]

far more

its like 1% or something per chest

[vagrant cedar]

damn, i got a red trinket, and suddenly item rating goes through the roof

[cyan notch]

wow thats good

you dont typically need a bunch of trinkets too

so you can just reroll that to whatever you want (if you have dust) and just keep that for a long time

[vagrant cedar]

got to 300 rating lol

thank you guys

i would have held this crap forever and been stuck at <200

altho, i just tested it, and you don't need to have highest items equipped

i equipped all ~200 and i still get 300s

[cyan notch]

yea u just gotta have had it at one point

[vagrant cedar]

so it's the sum of top 5 slot items / 5

[cyan notch]

i think you can even delete it and the game records it

[vagrant cedar]

would make sense, assuming the game is smartly coded

[cyan notch]

it just keeps tracks of your drops and scales it that way i believe

[vagrant cedar]

and holds those values

now i'm curious how much more powerful the dmg is, comparing 200 vs 300

50%?

[cyan notch]

depends on your total hero rating too

a bunch of rating comes from level too

[wet jacinth]

[devout axle]

Damage in VT2 is not directly linked to the weapons power. Rather, the power of your weapons is based on your total Hero Power.
Hero Power = (Level*10) + (Total Gear Power/5)

The exception to this is in Chaos Wastes.

[wet jacinth]

Me thinking about weaves

[long wharf]

uh guys?

[wet jacinth]

[long wharf]

double checks discord server name

[wet jacinth]

[long wharf]

oh well, we were bound to run out of things to say about Darktide

even here

[devout axle]

Darktide is a meme.

[warm forge]

does the psykinetic wrath boost the purga staff dmg

[manic needle]

So apparently when using Surge staff with a Blazing Spirit FS you can quick cast lightning, flick to sword, then flick back to staff to get the FS Blazing Spirit procs on the lightning??

Its hard to tell exactly what Im looking at while watching this stream

[cyan notch]

yea

think u only need to lighting swap to sword

swap back is to keep using staff

[devout axle]

Now that's a shirt I need.

[manic needle]

That opens up some interesting possibilities with surge builds tbh

I hope that doesnt get fixed for a while

[devout axle]

Implying anything is going to be fixed for a while.

[floral solstice]

almost good, t4 decimator

[manic needle]

Its a cool bug so it will get hotfixed at the first opportunity while annoying shit like blessings not working right take months to fix. Thats just how that shit usually goes lol

[cloud heron]

the desert arena bit where you have to get the three batteries and bring them to the center is actually impossible to pub

i have quickplayed into this map three times in a row and wiped here every single time

[manic needle]

Thats pretty hot tbh even with low finesse

[devout axle]

Everyone becomes a retard at that part of the mission.

[cloud heron]

it's insane how people drift in every direction except the objective

[devout axle]

They run off on their own and try to fight the hordes, instead of just ... moving from objective to objective as a team.

[floral solstice]

yeah im incredibly picky with the perks and stats, but then again i have thousands of melk coins

[cyan notch]

gotta find mats

[manic needle]

Now that I have a Surge blessing I can transfer later IDK if Im even going to keep checking melk lol

[warm forge]

answers anybody?

[floral solstice]

i check melk for his daily supply of las and autopistols on psyker

[devout axle]

What's funny is I've started telling people when reaching that area "Just keep moving to the objectives as a team."
Only for people to ignore me, and then mock me when everyone dies.

People really do just deactivate their brains for that one specific area.

[cloud heron]

I feel like some people just don't register changes in the objective

similar to not registering teammates going down

[floral solstice]

this probably answers your question, though im not sure how good it actually is because i dont run wrath

nor do i main purgatus

[cloud heron]

wait, the 15% damage bonus only comes at literally 100% peril?

[manic needle]

Yep every staff but Surge gets boost from wrath

[cloud heron]

they couldn't have scaled that range down to like 80?

[manic needle]

BUt I imagine the damage bonus to Purgatus only applies to the staff damage, n ot soulblaze

So its still probably not that good

[floral solstice]

you really expecting good feat balancing from fatshark? lol

[devout axle]

It's really bad for every staff except Void.

[manic needle]

I havent actually tested though so take with a grain of salt

[cloud heron]

I just thought it was funny that the advertised damage boost includes the point at which using it kills you

[cyan notch]

nah force sword normal attacks dont

[frail berry]

Doh! so low mobility 😦

[cloud heron]

Also, psykinetic's wrath is fine on anything that doesn't have you caring about charges

[cloud heron]

Fair

[placid stratus]

Just a few more to go. Pray for my sanity

[cyan notch]

could also charge fs special to 100 and then hit a +15% damage heavy

[frozen osprey]

i cant even get the mf hound one no matter how hard i try

[cloud heron]

The number of missions needed for penances is pretty insane

[frozen osprey]

i dont even know how you did the rest of them you're an actual maniac addie

[cloud heron]

Try right clicking so that it's ready to fire when the hound is in view

[frozen osprey]

that's what I've been doing

[devout axle]

You over here having everything except the 100 missions completed. Me over here having everything except Malleus Monstronum.

[cloud heron]

I guess it's just luck, then. I didn't particularly try to get it

[frozen osprey]

i swear to you up and down ten thousand times ive done it right but fatshark forbids me from relief

[frozen osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-emoji-dies-gif-21956120

[frozen osprey]

im gonna kill myself trying to do pick n mix

[cloud heron]

Hound has a pretty generous jump distance. i've it go like 10m+ and it will also just clip into your character and insta-down you without visibly jumping

[devout axle]

tbh, I got every achievement accidentally right after I stopped trying and just turned my brain back to autopilot.

[frozen osprey]

you people are insane (with luck)

[frozen osprey]

SO MANY TIMES IT DOES THAT

[placid stratus]

I got most of my penances through planning and some through dumb luck

[devout axle]

Unfortunately, no amount of 'luck' is gonna get me Malleus Monstronum without friends.

[cloud heron]

I found a group for malleus monstronum in the vox lfg channel

[placid stratus]

I still remember the day I got Long Bomb for vet during the pre-release beta by basically Hail Mary'ing it from the valkyrie over to the door that leads to the supply yard on chasm station

[devout axle]

And, like myself, all of my friends have stopped playing until Fatshark actually does something.

[cloud heron]

Long Bomb is significantly easier when you know that tap clicking has a different fuse timer than hold clicking. If you just tap click into the air you can get it so easy

[vagrant cedar]

i kinda hate how these values are hidden in the games, what happened with THIS WEAPON DOES 5 DMG, THIS WEAPON WILL DO 10

bring back the old school rpg games

[placid stratus]

I play with latency because wifi and not in US

[vagrant cedar]

where shit makes sense from day 1

[agile solstice]

hey any pyskers wanna help get the 90% boss penant, we can take turns

[placid stratus]

So tapping it does nothing

[devout axle]

I actually like the way power works in VT2. It lets me bring classes I haven't leveled into higher difficulties and not feel completely useless.

[vagrant cedar]

that might be true but then again if you don't know the numbers, it's like a Story mode game

[cloud heron]

Try the vox lfg channels

[vagrant cedar]

for example, how do i know how much my Mace does dmg? What if it does 95, but the rats have 100hp, i don't know that, a simple trinket is 10% rat dmg might be a difference between 1 shot and 2 shot

that's a HUGE game changer

but the game doesn't represent this kind of information

it's like an adventure game

[agile solstice]

ok will do ty

[valid fern]

What blessings and perks do I look for in a surge staff?

[rose lily]

that's a lot of quick damage though, so good

[devout axle]

You can test your damage numbers on the training dummies. Its not exact, but nothing in the game is exact. That's kinda what makes it fun.

[cloud heron]

Blessings with surge arent too important. secondary charge speed are probably the better ones but it's minor

[cyan notch]

you can calculate breakpoints and damage if you want

but when youre levelling it doesnt matter too much

you can generally just see more power = more damage

(and cleave and stagger)

[floral solstice]

nexus, focused channeling, crit chance + flak are my preferences

[forest coral]

the best blessing you can get with surge staff is a team that communicates

✊

[floral solstice]

kimo bad shoo

[rapid flicker]

does upgrading items increase base stats?

[floral solstice]

jk

[forest coral]

[valid fern]

ty ty

[cyan notch]

no

[valid fern]

what modifiers should i prioritizing? whats the min modifier rating at 30 I should be upgrading?

[floral solstice]

you mean on surge staff?

[valid fern]

yep!

[cloud heron]

flak is probably best

[valid fern]

I thought people seek out 370+ modifier items but I see a lot of surge staves in screenshots upgraded that are 340+

[floral solstice]

dont focus on the base

[cloud heron]

some people accept mediocrity

[floral solstice]

focus on the stats

[forest coral]

stats in right places > falsely inflated item with shit blessing

[valid fern]

what stats should be prioritized?

[floral solstice]

damage crit warp res are my picks, in no particular order

then charge rate or quell is imo a feel thing, depends on what you want really

charge rate is kinda meh if you're mostly spam casting anyway to stunlock, but it's handy for fully charging vs scab shooters and gunners especially

[sour jetty]

So there I was. Humming Binarically

And my sensors picked up something most beautiful

It glowed a magnificent green

[cyan notch]

crit > quell > damage > charge > warp res for me

[sour jetty]

I do believe I found some long lost artifact of the Omnissiah

[valid fern]

thanks everyone!

[forest coral]

So there I was, minding my own business
and then I felt a presence most horrible, leering, screaming from the warp
It offered me a bagel

[sour jetty]

Its machine spirit. I can hear it even now. It beckons for flesh

[sour jetty]

Who here has spare skin?

The Machine Spirit wishes to adorned in fresh flesh

[lunar hollow]

you

[sour jetty]

it wants more

[obtuse cliff]

https://tenor.com/view/anger-management-jack-nicholson-yes-duh-nods-gif-5222702

Veterans unite

[cloud heron]

imo it's warp res ~ quell > damage > crit > charge

you want stun uptime over damage

[floral solstice]

personally i dont put quell high up the list because i never run surge with force sword, otherwise i'd prolly rank it higher

[obtuse cliff]

Truly incredibile, the Adeptus Mechanicussy has never been brighter or more available

[lunar hollow]

praise the omnissiah

[obtuse cliff]

https://tenor.com/view/elmo-fire-burn-gif-5103666

[lone walrus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gIMZ0WyY88

[floral solstice]

is this what gen chat looks like

[cyan notch]

no

this is vet chat

[floral solstice]

well shit

[cyan notch]

all they do is post garbage cuz theres nothing to talk about for their class

[safe pendant]

^

[lone walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/the-goon-geek-nerd-alert-video-games-gif-16159546

psyker outro

[forest coral]

Truly the darkest timeline

[cyan notch]

[lone walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/destroy-purge-heresy-annihilation-gif-24693880

psyker secret ending

[cloud heron]

idk man, I think "reload once" could give "infinite duration ult" a run for its money

[lone walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/death-korps-of-krieg-marching-gif-18583555

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer40k-marching-warhammer40k-krieg-death-korps-of-krieg-marching-soldiers-marching-gif-26655156

https://media.tenor.com/eQ__zjeuC4EAAAAd/grenade-german.gif

[cloud heron]

what is happening right now

[cyan notch]

you should probably stop

[lone walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/reverse-card-uno-uno-cards-gif-13032597

[north cradle]

Should I

[rocky cedar]

Eh

[cyan notch]

nah

[rocky cedar]

Burn and cloud radius both mediocre

[cyan notch]

cloud and burn quite shit

[cloud heron]

Two most important stats are the lowest and a bad blessing

and bad perks

[cyan notch]

for melk bucks too not worth it imo

[neat summit]

Terrifying Balls.

Not even sure I’ve seen that proc.

More importantly, I don’t think it helps the staff do what it needs to. If you’re danger close you would be torching everyone anyways.

[rocky cedar]

Following the pattern of other staff blessings it probably only procs on primary fire for at least half the staffs

[north cradle]

I'm stockpiling weapons with good blessings for the day when crafting is finished

So far I'm sitting on about 90+ ranged and melee weapons since I know I can combine lower tier blessings into a higher tier

Still haven't seen Peril Transfer though

[forest coral]

with all the staffs and swords im collecting, can probably build a mini fort out of it

[cloud heron]

My psyker has a pretty good gun collection as well

not so much in the staff department

[forest coral]

i wish to cast but the emperor keeps giving my psyker guns

[cloud heron]

have multiple mk12s each better than what i have on my veteran, but don't have a single trauma staff above a 300

[forest coral]

oh wow

i still cant get myself to like trauma in anyway

[cloud heron]

i'd like to find out if better stats makes it more fun

maybe one day i will

[forest coral]

If the centre impact did more damage and the outskirts of impact actually did some damage or set things on fire then it would be decent

rn its like laughable damage for a strong knockdown but at cost of almost half your peril

[long wharf]

trauma ought to do full damage to everything in the aoe

surge ought to do full damage to everything it hits, not just two primary targets

[safe pendant]

The jump in peril after finalizing the blast is what kills Trauma. Going from 20% on a medium to large radius and suddenly having 45% afterwards is really bad

[forest coral]

and the fact that the knockback doesnt kill, it just causes dense hordes to become worse if there is no flame to control it

not to mention being the absolute worst option to deal with shooters in higher diff

[safe pendant]

I also wish it had longer range. It'd be nice to aim it behind cover and blow shooters out into the open so they can get picked off

Right now it's only for immediate threats in melee distance

[forest coral]

if it ignored cover around the epicenter then itd be a different story

[safe crystal]

Cant wait to roll run n gun on this

[forest coral]

ooh good luck

[floral solstice]

got griefed by cloud

[heavy coral]

Has the actual effect of the Modifiers been discussed and measured? Like... is 52% Cloud so much smaller than an 80% Cloud? Or is it just more of a numbers game and people want all-maxed gear?

[forest coral]

love me purg

[cyan notch]

you can inspect the weapon and see for yourself

[floral solstice]

well you can check the weapon stats yourself, on cloud radius you'll miss out on a couple of meters on effective range if cloud rad is low

[digital narwhal]

Hot Take:
Charging the Surge Staff should increase the amount of "First Targets" (Initial targets hit by lightning who then spread lightning to others), as well as increasing the amount of damage gained from charging so that it can reliably kill Poxwalkers. Purgatus and Voidstrike will still outclass it in Horde Clear due to the unlimited number of targets, meanwhile this just makes Surge more of a self capable staff without having to rely on your teammates.

[floral solstice]

i mean, who wouldn't want more targets hit by surge, i don't think that's a hot take

[digital narwhal]

Some people swear by it being the strongest staff, and would get uppity about Surge buffs.

Hence a Hot Take; although maybe it's more of a Lukewarm Take

[forest coral]

Surge staff when the lightning fails to zap the mauler right in front of them during a horde

https://tenor.com/view/pleading-waterbaloon-sad-cry-boy-gif-24749906

[floral solstice]

it makes damnation more ezpz than it already is especially on a premade team

[bold flint]

surge staff when 5 poxwalkers

[floral solstice]

do i want it to be better? heck yeah why not

@forest coral im down to help with penance prolly around 1pm sgt at the earliest, still stuck in traffic

then imma grief you again you're welcome

[forest coral]

Ahhh what time for u now?

[floral solstice]

12 noon

[forest coral]

kk we got 3 hour diff

[floral solstice]

yuck

jk

[forest coral]

i reckon realistically ill be on around ur 3-4 pm

:C

[floral solstice]

i actuallyvkeep thinking you're also sgt

think it was the other guy i played with

[forest coral]

yeh probably lol

[floral solstice]

aussies, bleh spits

jk

[forest coral]

wow

[forest coral]

at this point i've reached inner peace and tranquility with malleus monstronum lmao. An accidental flame tick killing monstrosity, no daemonhosts spawning for 3-4 heresy attempts in a row, an ogryn who doesnt know how to hold down a shield, swarm situations making the surroundings too hard to upkeep the conditions

[floral solstice]

that ogryn joining a damnation team while not knowing how to use his weapon's special lmao

[cloud heron]

I feel like surge will be reworked at some point. I doubt its current usage is what was intended for it.

[digital narwhal]

Yeah

[cyan notch]

[light citrus]

empreor gift

[floral solstice]

emperor's secondhand stuff

[floral solstice]

ayt just dm me whenever

[forest coral]

thanks ranni

[floral solstice]

20 dollars

or i dont brace my shield

[forest coral]

pls no

[warm meteor]

U don't think CC was fat sharks purpose for it?

[cloud heron]

Not when it has crit and charge rate as stats for it

[warm meteor]

And that passive where it does a massive uptick in damage vs armoured opponents. Maybe it was supposed to be a close ranged elite killer that struggled vs hordes idk

[warm meteor]

But then they gave it a stun that's super easy to chain and lasts a million years and works on anything that doesn't have a boss healthbar

[safe pendant]

Damnation with 3 psykers and one vet

each with different staff. Smooth run

[forest coral]

veteran with his psyker harem

[safe pendant]

All that ammo

[light citrus]

Sorry I got 3 deflector

but modifiers not good

[north cradle]

There's a skill in the Psyker tree that when you gain a Warp Charge, it makes the nearest Elite get Soulblaze stacks. So maybe there's a way to get Surge Staff to prioritise armoured enemies after hitting the first target?

[forest coral]

the third sword is pretty good

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1067307160368857118/image.png

[north cradle]

Yeh I like that one too. First Target could be better, but I think it at least deals x1.00 damage?

[still hearth]

That feels kind of like saying Purge should be allowed to melt Carapace as well to make it self reliant. You have a melee to handle hordes, Ascendant Blaze if you really have to, and also this game IS a four man show.

[north cradle]

I dunno why a weapon that's mostly Strikedown with an Assassin combo should even have First Target instead of Penetration or Critical Bonus, honestly.

[cyan notch]

why not

[still hearth]

Knife and Dueling Sword both do as well, I think.

Also First Target just increases damage all the time anyway