psyker-class

[steel vapor]

yeah palpatine staff is kinda cool

[quick heron]

palp staff sucks in horde tho, mostly good for locking down elites. if your team lacks horde clear potential, its fairly bad

speaking like T5

[atomic dagger]

when i take out my purg staff, my team usally lacks ranged dmg

when i take my low dmg cc surge staff my team lacks overall dmg

when i take literally anything, my team needs the opposite

[steel vapor]

would it be possible to use palpatine with a soulblaze build to make something reasonably well rounded?

[magic hull]

they do suck in hordes

[quick heron]

You can make anything works. TBH i find it just depends on what you are comfortable with

[steel vapor]

fair

[quick heron]

I met a dude who swears by trauma, and I F'ing hate it

[magic hull]

surge is nice agaisnt pox and hounds tho

[steel vapor]

Tbh the voidstrike one seems pretty good vs both gunners, elites and hordes

[atomic dagger]

i play surge staff with focus on warp resistance and warp battery so that i can perma blitz and cc

it doesnt do that much dmg but you can stun even hordes

[magic hull]

average trauma hater

[quick heron]

lmao true

[steel vapor]

does warp battery give you any higher breakpoints in t5?

[magic hull]

high level trauma players are masochist tho

[fringe garden]

Surge neede a strong Antax paired with it to really shine.

[wet flax]

For me it's either the purgatus staff coupled with the antax mk v to cover the harder enemies or the surge staff coupled with the chainsword to heavy swing the hordes away.

[steel vapor]

fore sure have a traumatic experience

[wet flax]

But the antax with brutal momentum can cover both

[quick heron]

I mean trauma has its place, but the perill gain when full charging is oof. Even not full charging is still oof to me.

[fringe garden]

The real struggle on psyker is getting a strong melee weapon to drop for you

[magic hull]

antax can pair with anything and still be good

[atomic dagger]

i dont know what you mean with breakpoints but i sit on my warp charges just to have the peril resistance

[magic hull]

i prefer achlys though

[fringe garden]

A half-ass blue staff can do great work, but getting a melee weapon that can cover your weaknesses is a pain

[magic hull]

the side heavy swing make it control horde nicely

its the same as antax just different mellee animation

[quick heron]

MKV CAxe is better than achyls tho. With brutal its basically the best axe bar none, and ive used them all

[steel vapor]

ahh, you use it for peril resistance!
By breakpoints i mean that with 4 warp charges, maybe a crusher would take 4 headpops but with 6 warp charges it would only take 3.. or something like that

[atomic dagger]

i use it in combination with surge staff. it does in comparison low dmg but you can perma stun everything. you jsut need to have some dmg dealers in your team to actually kill things

[magic hull]

isnt achlys the same as antax, just different sprint melee animation

or am i forgetting names

[quick heron]

I thought so too, but they dont perform the same for me

[magic hull]

the primary melee is the same animation

[atomic dagger]

... and crushers are vulnerable to surge staffs. so they kinda die at some point

[cyan notch]

nah they both have different movesets

[fringe garden]

Does alchys have first target hit as a stat?

[wet flax]

Achlys has a finesse modifier while the antax has a cleave modifier too

[quick heron]

The achlys horde clear is Heavy Spam, the Antax is P-Attack+Light Light, or literally spam Push-Attack

[atomic dagger]

@steel vapor i would recomend "Kinetic Barrage" as the last perk, so that you dont lose your warp charges and you can burst down single targets if necessary with BB

[fringe garden]

First target is a huge multiplicative damage boost that lets Antax's overhead swing pop big targets with ease

And it has excellent horde clear with push attack spam. So it can do it all

[quick heron]

I think MKV special attack is also better if I recall

[fringe garden]

I have a Limbsplitter/Thrust antax that can hit for like 1500 on a charged heavy

[wet flax]

Combo kinetic barrage with psykinetic's aura so whenever you kill elites with your ult you get most of it back pretty quickly.

[atomic dagger]

what aura? get back what?

AH nvm

understood 😄

but you need to generate warp charges somehow when only CCing, that is why you are kinda forced to use "Psychic Communion"

[fringe garden]

I don't really worry about warp charges to be honest

[wet flax]

True. I like using that combo in higher difficulties when there's a bunch of elites around though. Keeps the warp charges up.

[steel vapor]

hmm, ill give it a shot for sure

[fringe garden]

Their usefulness is honestly kinda limited. The peril resist is the best thing about them, and sometimes I prefer to have more peril so I can quell it for toughness

[atomic dagger]

with purg staff you get warp charges en masse when skilled for soulfire. then you can also use the talent to get toughness when you receive a warp charge for perma 100% toughness as long as you burn things

i hate to quell my peril for toughness because it stops the dmg/cc+

[fringe garden]

Mmmh, in my experience the generation isn't that good with purgation

[still hearth]

Purge would be so good. If not for the fact that when I'm flaming a horde the other 3 rejects don't cover me

[atomic dagger]

speaking in lvl4/5 missions with way more bodies coming your way

[still hearth]

But instead run in front of my flames and try to kill the horde before me

[fringe garden]

I use a melee weapon and let it autoquell when in combat

[still hearth]

[fringe garden]

But I'm not a huge fan of purgation regardless

[wet flax]

I loooove the purgatus staff but I wish the primary attack was a ranged fireball or something. 😭

[atomic dagger]

yeah... you also kinda need a good purg staff to make it work with focus on dmg, burn and cloud

[idle bay]

Nearly 400 hours and i'm still not sure what to press to do animation "Look at your weapon"

[fringe garden]

X

[idle bay]

Thanks 🙂

[magic hull]

bruh

[magic hull]

its always the ranged at higher levels that is annoying af

but everytime there is a horde, its always my favourite part using purg

[idle bay]

As psyker main , and occasional Ogryn enjoer, i currently fixing my Vets gear and venting all of my frustration of garbage-tier-useless vets that can't kill ranged swarms fast. Anti-shooters build that deletes those fucking dreg and scab shooters squads.

[fringe garden]

I want a fireball staff like in Vt2 so psyker can do that job effectively

Voidstrike just doesn't do it for me

[still hearth]

XII does it pretty nicely.

Stack up to 100% peril, swap to XII and shoot

It'll block most shots with the toughness regen from peril quell.

[idle bay]

Surge staff can do it too: Zaps for scabs, lmb Blasts for the rest.

[deft trench]

Is there a dueling sword that is considered to be the best? both for damage and movement

[fringe garden]

Surge can up to a certain range

[still hearth]

It just doesn't do it well enough on Damnation

But you can surge through walls

Which is a nice bonus

[cyan notch]

why would fireball staff do that job effectively lol

[still hearth]

But once again all requires your allies to actually cover you

[fringe garden]

Because it's a decent ranged aoe

[vagrant cedar]

It's called a Purge Staff

pew pew pew

also, VT2 is confusing af for a new starter

[cyan notch]

i mean its not that great and even so what happens when shooters are spread out

[fringe garden]

Then you throw a couple fireballs?

[still hearth]

Surge takes several blasts to kill anything, as well.

[cyan notch]

i dont see how that is any more effective than just bb or void

[fringe garden]

I'll just say I want an AoE staff with a bit better range if that satisfies your need to argue

[still hearth]

Trauma

[cyan notch]

i mean you can say you want that but saying that would deal with shooters effectively is a bit of a stretch

[fringe garden]

Trauma just has too many glaring weaknesses

[still hearth]

Trauma is just bad.

[fringe garden]

It absolutely can fuck up clumps of shooters, though

But.. ya know.. all the rest of it

[still hearth]

If by fuck up you mean

Kill 1 and knock over 3 more

Then yes

[fringe garden]

It's not that bad, the attack itself when charged a bit hits pretty hard. It's just a pain to aim at distance, eats up stupid amounts of peril, and leaves you hella exposed up close.

[still hearth]

It is that bad.

The biggest AoE you can get is 2.3m

For the actual damage

Then it has 8m of like 40 damage but lots of stagger.

They need to be basically hugging each other for you to hit more than 1 target with the epicenter

Idk why the scaling isn't based on distance from the epicenter instead of being two parts

[cyan notch]

yea it really sucks look at this dudes feet in the circle 80 blast radius btw

[pliant junco]

fireball exist the form of voidstrike nah

[still hearth]

You can hit him outside of the circle too, afaik.

[cyan notch]

yes it staggers outside for quite some distance but does 0 damage

[still hearth]

[pliant junco]

this staff is shit

[still hearth]

The way to play trauma

And this is my 400 IQ play

Is to get one with 0 blast radius

And use it like a single target weapon

[pliant junco]

[still hearth]

Because at least then it doesn't stagger a massive horde because you want to delete a guy.

Tbh it should just lock onto enemies like BB does

So you can at least delete one thing reliably.

[pliant junco]

my way to play trauma
and its 430 iq play
is to not play it at all

[halcyon creek]

Trauma should blast hordes inwards, not outwards

[still hearth]

I wanted to try trauma to do a peril generation thing but its just so

Trauma is just fucked

There's so much bad stuff

Massive peril, weird AoE scaling, only does damage in the small AoE, staggers way too much which knocks hordes all over the place

But you can't spam it to keep things CC'd because massive peril gain

Trauma does solid damage against all types of armor

That's like the only upside it has

But against crushers you'd do better using BB

BB is just trauma but without the awful parts

I guess trauma is good when there's 2 bulwarks and 2 crushers stacked on top of each other

[deft trench]

Trauma is great if youre trying to do going out with a bang

:v)

[mint heart]

Do blessings ever go higher than t2 when upgrading a green?

[still hearth]

Yes but t3 and t4 are absurdly rare

Like, absurdly absurdly

[mint heart]

Don't think I ever got a t3 or t4 in 500h

it's max retarded

[still hearth]

I've got a Fsword that got t3 and t4 blessing

Upgraded from gray

But most of the time I get t2 blessings from upgrades

[mint heart]

For me it's always the same. Stack like 20 gray/green items with good stats. Always get t1 or t2 blessing on it.

And in the case of Warp Nexus for example it makes a huge difference

While terrifying barrage I can live with t1 or t2

[cyan notch]

ive gotten a lot of t3s

no t4s

[mint heart]

All my t3's are from bought blue weapons or emps gifts. Never have I gotten a t3 in an upgrade from green to blue.

[cyan notch]

you can tell which are the ones i got from upgrading

[mint heart]

For me it looks like you upgrade from green to blue, get the usual max t2 blessing and on legendary get the min t3 blessing

always the same

[cyan notch]

oh yea if youre talking about purely green to blue and stopping there then yea mostly seems to be t2

[mint heart]

Yeah I'm looking for a surge or purgatus with a high warp nexus blessing for example. If I don't start with a t3 blue one I pretty much have to gamble on purp to orange upgrade.

Or buy one from milker

[cyan notch]

upgrading is pretty shit

only emp gifts and melk give you purples with a t3/4 blessing as the first blessing

shop stuff is rng on rng and exorbitant costs to upgrade

[mint heart]

yeah, I think I'm gonna take a break from the game. RNG and costs are just too much.

see ya around guys.

[cyan notch]

yea ive just been stockpiling until they change this shit

emp gifts and melk stuff is timegated :)

[dull haven]

Lol got this on my psyk melk shop

Awesomne perk and blessing roll

[floral solstice]

dang you got stat griefed tho

[stray warren]

Serious feedback: Please give some sort of internal cooldown on the 100% Peril sound effects. It is absolutely deafening, and if I have to hear BLIGHT AND DECAY again I may actually go insane.

[cloud heron]

Is that tied to a specific voice?

[dull haven]

yeah that' why i shared ahha its hilarious what I get now

Just tgetting trolled by melk

[idle bay]

Hmm.. never considered those sound an issue, they never bothered be. Well to think of it.. even "more impactful Surge Staff VXF did not bothered me - i barely noticed it"

[near wyvern]

Just turn down sound FX from audio settings? I have mine set up so I can hear Jesper better

[limber silo]

Use nightmode to balance loud sounds

Used to struggle with voidstrike blowing up my ears if I killed 20ish enemies woth a single cannonball, but it's fine now

[quick heron]

nightmode?

ahh in the Audio Mix setting

[limber silo]

Yeah

It auto balances loud and quiet noises for those who play in rooms with sleeping people

[quick heron]

ill give that a try

[median sorrel]

he....hewwo is this the psyky wyky chat 👉 👈

[still hearth]

So imagine

[cloud heron]

burn 0

[still hearth]

[cloud heron]

rip

[still hearth]

Its fine I cant afford it anyway

But Melk, my man.

You need to get better wares.

[floral solstice]

there's a reddit thread about a psyker build and the guy thinks cloud radius is not important on purgatus because he can just wave his staff arouns

[still hearth]

[floral solstice]

hmm yes reddit the best source of wisdom

[still hearth]

Why is reddit always wrong

About everything

[floral solstice]

These are his curios

Im fucking dying

[still hearth]

40%

Pox Hounds

[floral solstice]

Woof woof motherfucker

[worthy wedge]

The man likes his health.

[still hearth]

I run 40% HP too

But that's because my curios are all blue

And I want the sniper resist

[worthy wedge]

That's fair enough. I just feel I'd have other priorities

[floral solstice]

if you're not running 3x grim resist or 3x exp you're clearly bad maam good day

[still hearth]

Wounds

[floral solstice]

or at least hound resist like the guy's uber build

[west stream]

The issue with no extra wound people is they go into heresy+

pick up grimoire, run into poxburster, die forever

[still hearth]

So recon gun can shoot through 4 infested with enough Wrath stacks

That's, uh

Useful?

[cyan notch]

no

[still hearth]

Its like a flamer

But worse

[cyan notch]

i guess if you have infernus it can be

[still hearth]

Shred + Wrath claw with Recon Infernus

[placid stratus]

If only

In the meantime, I'm gonna abuse the shit out of crucian roulette because I'm a fraud

[still hearth]

Psykers abusing Crucian Roulette

[placid stratus]

That's what I'm doing

[stark skiff]

is dueling sword good? bought this one

[placid stratus]

Instant jealousy

[still hearth]

Its very good at making you move fast

Hit fast

And do no damage

But Shred applies on your ranged

So you can slap a bit and get the crit bonus

[stark skiff]

damn, hoped it can do something with all that crit

[still hearth]

It does decent damage on crits tbf

[floral solstice]

Mk V is decent for single target with heavies

[still hearth]

Why can't Voidstrike hit the heads of Crushers

Or any of the Ogryns

[shadow onyx]

its not that bad honestly

yeah he took dog but he could run full revive speed or bomber resist

• he tried full health

which is not that bad

[floral solstice]

or he could just roll block eff or something else

[shadow onyx]

yeah sure

but i mean its not full wound curio + bomber resist

at least he have some big juicy hp and as psyker you dont get shot very often

so imo health is a good alternative for thoughness

its not the kind of curio where i'm thinking " wtf its entirely useless"

but yeah block efficiency is a go to for me

my top 3 perks are
1/ block cost reduction
2/ stam regen/hp/thoughness
3/ corruption

all % resist against X ennemies is pretty shit tbh

flamer bomber is pretty avoidable 99% of the time
gunner too

doggo will do no dmg but incapacitate you so poxwalkers will rekt you

same for mutants

only sniper is quality of life but even then its very niche situation

meanwhile no resist vs shotgunners

they are the main reason of why my shield getting raped

[cyan notch]

i like mutant resist

[waxen barn]

Perfect curio for me is 21% hp, 4% hp, 15% corruption resist, 20% toughness regen.

[cold zinc]

toughness regen is pretty useless

[waxen barn]

If I had 3 of those I’d never really want for another curio

Nah it’s actually decent

[shadow onyx]

it will get fixed next week tm

[still hearth]

It isn't

It does nothing because its bugged

[waxen barn]

Turns a 3 second wait into a 1.4 second wait

[shadow onyx]

@waxen barn

[waxen barn]

It doesn’t affect how fast you regen

That won’t be forever tho

I’m looking to the future

[shadow onyx]

next week is the future

[waxen barn]

https://tenor.com/view/surprised-gif-25662315

[shadow onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/catalina-boy-band-steve-rambo-mmmh-oh-shit-i-am-sorry-gif-22942763

[waxen barn]

I think dmg resist % vs gunners is also a good one for curios

Gunners are real pain in the asses and having 60% dmg resist against them would be nice

[still hearth]

Gunner resist is probably the best one.

[shadow onyx]

i think its better for a vet or ogryn

[still hearth]

I like Sniper because you can't trust this game

[waxen barn]

Yeah I like it on my zealot. Rather have the health on psyker

[shadow onyx]

vet is very useful because you face a lot of gunner even with the DR feat

[still hearth]

It's just so little health though

[waxen barn]

Lol yeah sniper is rough but my job as a psyker is to kill them asap

Gotta stack em for a difference

12% health is decent

But yeah 60% dmg resist towards a type is prolly better tbh

[shadow onyx]

tbh i find psy being ironicaly the worst at dealing sniper

your bb is slow as fuck and you cant aim through a grid because its coded like a fucking bullet

[waxen barn]

That’s when it’s beta job haha

But usually psyker can get em with BB well enough

[cyan notch]

how is psyker worst at dealing with sniper

[waxen barn]

Some levels are messy w the gates and fences tho you’re correct

[shadow onyx]

seriously i hate so much trying to bb on a stair but "hey you cant because lol"

[cyan notch]

u telling me zealots or ogryns are better at killing snipers

[shadow onyx]

there is so much situations where a snipe can literaly sniping you through a grid or a corner and you bb cannot be launched

[floral solstice]

there are more situations where you can actually bb them or reposition to do so

[shadow onyx]

idk man i 'd prefer to play my plasma vet

to deal with thoses fuckers

[cyan notch]

idk i rarely have problems dealing with them you can aim bb through cracks too

[still hearth]

This is why you run XII so you can just shoot them

[cyan notch]

sure vet is better but worst at dealing with snipers hell no

[shadow onyx]

i do often the map with stairs or vertical maps and man they love to pop at impossible or annoying angles

but snipers are broken as bb is

the ability to snipe you through infinite number of pox is just stupid

their spawn are clunky

like sometimes they pop right behind you like 5 meters away

or ahead

[bold flint]

they need a better audio cue for when they appear

[cyan notch]

pretty much any special can hit you through a horde

[shadow onyx]

or sometimes they pop in broken area like silo cluster end event

[maiden wolf]

If you don't already know, Gunner resist is only for heavy gunner enemies AFAIK.

[still hearth]

Gunner is indeed only for the elite ones

But also applies to Reapers afaik

[bold flint]

the regular dudes with regular guns are called shooters

[still hearth]

Except the ones that are stalkers

[bold flint]

[cyan notch]

what are good blessings for kantraeil xii

[shadow onyx]

no special can litteraly os you instantly

[near wyvern]

Sniper resist is best in slot. Burster resist is also really good until they fix the bugs with them (doesn't always stagger like it is supposed to do)

[cyan notch]

it doesnt one shot you

[shadow onyx]

i take corruption resist, it work well too and its more all around

[cloud heron]

Most cases of a burster not staggering are usually someone trying to shove without stamina

[maiden wolf]

I'm thinking of going for Block efficiency and Stamina on all my curios

[clear heath]

I've never even seen burster resist
Is that even a thing?

[cyan notch]

that doesnt make sense how do you shove without stamina

[maiden wolf]

(Stamina regen)

[near wyvern]

I have seen them just walk through surge staff as well

[cloud heron]

Same way you run without stamina

[still hearth]

Poorly.

[cloud heron]

it lets you perform the action at reduced efficiency, and the worse block doesnt push back the burster

[cold zinc]

they walk through your ult all the time too

[shadow onyx]

thats what i do, pretty dope especialy with force sword spam push

[clear heath]

You can push with barely any stamina, but if you don't have enough for a full push, it doesn't do as much knockback

[near wyvern]

Yeah shove stagger strength is reduced if out of stamina but still works

[still hearth]

While a pox burster isn't in the air then it has a lot of stagger resist

But you can stagger it

[maiden wolf]

When they fix +stamina curios I'll maybe drop a toughness or helath one for that too

[near wyvern]

Which is why push attack knife spam is ridiculous

[bold flint]

a no stam push exists?

[cyan notch]

interesting

[near wyvern]

Yes

[still hearth]

It has a bigger delay and does less stagger

[bold flint]

theres so many situations where im out of stamina and try to push attack and nothing happens because i didnt push

[cyan notch]

doesnt seem to come out every time

[cloud heron]

Psyker ult's knockback strength is also dependent on range

[floral solstice]

i've seen bursters just straight up ignore and phase through me even when im the closest

[maiden wolf]

Am I right in my assessment that +stamina doesn't improve how long you can sprint for, only what percentage of your stamina bar is consumed when you push and block?

[twilit badger]

Who wants to do penance together

[bold flint]

im hopping on, i need to know if this exists or if yall takin shite

[shadow onyx]

yeah because devs wanted so hard to make your stam shit

[cloud heron]

which is another source of people being confused about why the burster didnt get knocked back like they expect

[twilit badger]

If you help me i'll help you

[cloud heron]

try the vox lfg channels

[still hearth]

Psyker has really fast toughness regen so you probably get stamina back before you can push anyway.

[maiden wolf]

Range? What do you mean?

[still hearth]

It might be that the game requires 1% stamina to push and you can do it before the game UI changes from 0 to 1

[twilit badger]

I don't like talking to strangers

I just need an ogryn with shield

Aggro DH so i can brain burst 90% of it's HP

[cloud heron]

Knockback is stronger the closer they are. So if you ult a poxburster that's far enough away, it will be affected by your ult but not enough to actually be knocked back

so it will just keep running up and dive on you anyway

[maiden wolf]

Psyker can kite the Daemonhost too.

[shadow onyx]

yeah, thats a totaly fatshark coding thing

[still hearth]

You can also abuse block break resets to just block it infinitely on any class.

[bold flint]

alright

an actual zero stamina push definitely does not exist

[twilit badger]

Well i can't brain burst when it's aggro on me can't i

[bold flint]

why yall wildin out here with these claims

[placid stratus]

yall ever just

[cloud heron]

Mood

[near wyvern]

Not really range but the amount of warp charges you have

[shadow onyx]

why only DH ? take any boss you can to do it, i did it on a beast of nurgle

[still hearth]

Because 1% and 0% is basically the same thing.

[twilit badger]

Takes full coordinated party

[still hearth]

On Ogryn you can't even see the UI tick up

[bold flint]

they really arent

[twilit badger]

In my experience pub aren't really helping generally speaking

[bold flint]

from a zero stamina sprint it takes you 2 seconds before you can push (as a vet)

[shadow onyx]

yeah, first try i forgot to suicide bots and they did more than 10% of the damage

[bold flint]

if you have 1% stamina, no problem

[shadow onyx]

[cyan notch]

nah it does let you sprint longer just like anything that uses stamina

[bold flint]

you all have it good when playing psyker

stamina regen delay basically doesnt exist

and then yall have the gall to say "you can push on zero stamina"

[floral solstice]

nice, we got something good out of a lot of poorly designed shit we got

[shadow onyx]

i use stam regen because i'm convinced it work like vt2 where you reach from 0 to 1 faster

[cloud heron]

it's not no stamina at all, it's an amount of stamina that's less than the amount required for a proper push

[shadow onyx]

and i overuse my sta

[cloud heron]

having 1/100 stamina doesn't give you the good push

[shadow onyx]

ù

[still hearth]

Sure but you can push on 0.00001% stamina

[maiden wolf]

Ah, I came to that conclusion since the Duelling saber only has 2 stamina, yet I can run for about as long as my FS, which has 5. My assumption was that stamina is consumed percentage-wise when sprinting, but bar-wise for melee. So weapons with less stamina have a weaker block.

[cyan notch]

ok that makes more sense

[floral solstice]

yeah pretty much just dont use up too much stam before pushing bursters, can do it even in a horde if you have enough stam

[still hearth]

Sprint stamina drain is based on the weapon.

[bold flint]

[maiden wolf]

I see

[still hearth]

Melees often take less stamina with Mobility

Sometimes Defense does it

[still hearth]

Life is hard for Veterans in melee.

[cyan notch]

you can see when you inspect ds that it has lower sprint cost and higher sprint speed so thats probably why they are around the same distance

[near wyvern]

Say that to my combat blade

https://youtu.be/jCehR1JU1Eg

Have cleared a damnation with this. It's a very brain-dead playstyle.

[still hearth]

Tfw

Psyker does more DPS with Knife

Because push attack

[near wyvern]

Recommended feats 1-3-2-1-3-3

[clear heath]

Here's what it can look like

[still hearth]

Though running Knife Psyker with Crucian just seems

Horrible

[near wyvern]

Plus you stagger everything except ogryns, Ragers, mutants and maulers with that spam

[cyan notch]

seems dangerous

[near wyvern]

It's not. You have BB for dealing with ranged and kinetic deflection allows you to block with no stamina. And then you can of course reload the gun and unload as well but don't have to if you want to deal with a gunner or sniper quickly.

[still hearth]

🙅‍♀️

[near wyvern]

And non force auto-quell goes 100 to 0 in 10 seconds

[clear heath]

This just screams zealot envy

[cyan notch]

i mean hey if people like it better enjoy this niche before its fixed

[still hearth]

I mean Zealot gets +25% damage, +10% attack speed, toughness DR on crit, armor pen, ignores stagger.

While Psyker gets..

10% chance to BB and peril block

[near wyvern]

2 out of 3 games when I play with that build people ask what the hell is wrong with my knife

[still hearth]

For melee builds

[shadow onyx]

worth ?

[cloud heron]

I'd take it

[clear heath]

the other 1/3 games people wonder why you aren't just playing zealot

[shadow onyx]

i have this too

waiting next week

[clear heath]

crafting will never be finished

cope

[near wyvern]

I have blazing spirit, just need a bloodthirsty and then the crafting update

[shadow onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/copium-meme-pepe-frog-gif-26117735

delete pls

[near wyvern]

Delete game

Then you have no need for copium

[floral solstice]

the more you cope the more you'd be disappointed when all we get next week is an update on the upcoming update

[clear heath]

next week we'll get a community update that says blessing crafting will be done by december as stated before

[floral solstice]

ok but december of which year

[cyan notch]

2042

[still hearth]

Nah this Knife thing

Is awful

Never doing it again

[cyan notch]

pussy

[still hearth]

Its just a worse Zealot build

But I will probably play more Knife on Psyker in general

Felt pretty nice when not memeing

[summer prairie]

knife is good but no reason to sacrifice your ranged for it

[mighty pike]

Knife has cool tricks

That's all that matters functionally

[cyan notch]

knife cool but like none of your feats do anything

ur just some level 1 psyker

no toughness regen no health no nothing just stab guy

[summer prairie]

it does great dps without crucial roulette cheese, just bring it with any staff really

[still hearth]

Instructions unclear, brought XII.

[clear heath]

Knife with crucian would be better on a level 5 zealot than it would be on psyker

[maiden wolf]

I guess that would make stamina curios extra potent on weapons like the Duelling Sword.

[clear heath]

now i kinda wanna test this sprinting thing with stamina curios

[summer prairie]

I tested the knife with a bunch of sprint efficiency and stamina regen. Fairly pointless because you ran just heavy+slide sprint just as fast and already takes care of stamina

[cyan notch]

sprinting cool but you can just spam slide

[summer prairie]

sliding is much safer, not much point in sprint efficiency

[clear heath]

ok yeah you definitely get more sprint duration with more stamina
went like 15m with 3 bars of stamina and 30 with 6 stam on the same weapon, no sprint eff

[still hearth]

Sliding is marginally slower but you already are faster than anyone with the Knife

[summer prairie]

heavy+slide is the same speed as just sprinting, but yes just sliding is slower

[still hearth]

The only reason to go super fast is that with Knife you can outrun enemies

Otherwise its very niche positioning

Idk on Psyker but on Zealot you can at least.

And I know Zealot has slightly faster sprint speed

[summer prairie]

Most of the time you use the speed to engage shooters quicker and in general be less bored while playing

[still hearth]

https://tenor.com/view/sonic-the-hedgehog-classic-sonic-sonic-origins-sonic-origins-animations-gif-25528432

[digital narwhal]

I hope that at least one of the other two Force Swords in the game's code is two-handed.

[cyan notch]

its coming next week

[bold flint]

Can you believe it, christmas, just a week away

[idle eagle]

Behold

the safe zapping

[chrome dune]

Wut this?

[idle eagle]

Macro for surge staff

You can spam it without exploding

[still hearth]

Logitech

What's the point of the weapon swap though

Aren't you letting the lightning run its course with the delay?

[idle eagle]

You can also let the animation continue to prolong the stun, but its speficially to max dps to armored shooters

Also it still disrupts the npc animations and the stun isnt much shorter

[near wyvern]

Nah. You gotta go get that Plasteel.

[shadow onyx]

https://i.redd.it/ialx0mxf2v7a1.gif

[median sorrel]

surge staff my beloved

[shadow onyx]

purgatus my love

[sacred field]

Whats a good way to get 'going out with a bang' achievement?

[near wyvern]

Purgatus used to be but now trauma is my new love. After completing a high intensity damnation with revolver and FS I need something much more worse.

[near wyvern]

Max wound curios, when you see a room full of elites roll the dice.

High intensity missions are also a bonus

[shadow onyx]

you like to suffer uh ?

😏

[olive ember]

It’s a hot fix patch not content

Christmas gotta wait for another month

[near wyvern]

Yes. Life without suffering is a life not worth living.

[shadow onyx]

based

[hoary hearth]

What exactly is "multiple hit"? What's the difference between it and cleave/ repeated hit?

[floral summit]

hello guys, quick question is there a dedicated channel if youre looking for people to complete "certain" penances ?

[olive ember]

Not to my knowledge

Best bet iirc is just LFG channels and praying some people are willing to help out

[long wharf]

I did a fsword+pistol heresy run last night, it was... lackluster

[hoary hearth]

I tried doing that and noone responded, I guess most ppl here completed all the penances they wanted

[olive ember]

I just haven’t rly been playing at all

Since zero content

[hoary hearth]

I just wish that penances weren't so rng dependant

I tried doing pick n mix for a week straight and gave up

I've only encountered 1 instance i could do it and then vet shot the last gunner

[floral summit]

I am honestly going to punch a hole through a table at this point , going out with a bang is just to rng dependent in a pug....

[boreal cave]

Pick n mix u want to just get to the 1st pack and bb then quit and restart eventually u get a good spawn

[hoary hearth]

That's wht i've been doing, I've never got a good spawn

And the on;y time i did the random vet showed up and ruined it

[long wharf]

as the community dwindles, only the most hardcore stick around

those people aren't chasing penances (and haven't been for weeks now)

[floral summit]

any tips on getting going out with a bang (migh aswell ask)

[floral summit]

yeah FS really shit the bed (again) like with VT2

[long wharf]

Darktide's release was far, far worse than VT2's

[floral summit]

Ohh dont get me wrong I agree , just feels kind of the same.

[hoary hearth]

On going out with a bang i got extremely lucky. I was exploding and then a mutie picked me up and threw me into ragers as i was exploding

[long wharf]

you can tell by the hiring of a new CM who is desperately trying to give people any info that they can

[floral summit]

the game needed at least another.... 6month in the oven

[floral summit]

that is lucky ^^

[hoary hearth]

I suggest you premade party for it with ogryns. make them aggro ragers and dmg them a little bit, the you you go boom and kill them

[floral summit]

will try that, might give the lfg channels a try.

[hoary hearth]

probably the most bullshit penance in the game

[floral summit]

thanks for all input , have a lovely evening guys.

[floral summit]

might be yes ^^

[boreal cave]

Best advice is patience and persistence tbh my mouse nearly found the window more than once in the process

[hoary hearth]

Psyker has the worst and hardest penances in the game

[valid fern]

What curios blessings and perks should I prioritize? I run surge staff and force sword

[fringe garden]

Stam Regen, block cost efficiency and 1 or two +max stams.

Max stamina is part of the calculation for block cost

[valid fern]

Ty. So definitely do the block costing peril feat too?

[spice veldt]

yep, especially for pubs

kinetic deflection is convenient for reviving teammates

[mint wyvern]

ooo

[pliant junco]

they stalk and walk in the now near empty mourningstar like ghosts in a metal shell, waiting xx:00 to get another roll of shitty weapons

[mint wyvern]

crit staff?

[long wharf]

sadly, that is truth

[north solstice]

imagine ever having a surge staff in your inventory
am a trauma chad

[austere estuary]

oh damn

slaughterer 4

[pliant junco]

noice but no deflector

[austere estuary]

ready for extraction when rebless comes in December 2030

[pliant junco]

next century

[mint wyvern]

receives transcendent surge staff from the emperor dismantles it

[north solstice]

i have actually

hence the validity of my point

why stun them when you can dismantle their ligaments?

[pliant junco]

adding 8k gold to your 2millions useless coins pile

[mint wyvern]

not doing that lol

[austere estuary]

my dockets are constantly empty

hoarding everything with t2+ of blessings I want, along with anything with excellent stats

this stat spread

[pliant junco]

wow

[digital narwhal]

Reckon a good Chainsword would pair well with Surge or Voidstrike?

[maiden wolf]

Run it on Gunker so you can build enough peril for quietude

[cloud heron]

Force sword is the only melee weapon a true psyker uses

[digital narwhal]

Oh also, Damage isn't all that important, is it?

[cloud heron]

No, but burn is

[austere estuary]

Damage desirable but not mega important yeah compared to burn + range

[cloud heron]

Order of importance IMO is burn (76 being an important breakpoint) >> cloud > resist > damage > quell

[digital narwhal]

76 is the important breakpoint for what reason?

[cloud heron]

Max soulblaze stacks

[digital narwhal]

Ahhh

[cloud heron]

And each stack is worth significantly more than the previous

Not quite exponential but it ramps hard

[digital narwhal]

Also

I really hope they give Psyker more synergy with other staffs beyond Purgatus

[hoary hearth]

I've never seen more then tier 2 in the shop, Or is it melk?

[austere estuary]

that's melk

I've seen t3 in store though

melk just brings all the blessings to the yard

[keen storm]

whew 1.1% completed the going out with a bang penance? So its not just me

[austere estuary]

best done with friends

[digital narwhal]

Just had a Zealot admit to purposefully going after my Brain Burst targets just so I can't get the Pick 'N' Mix Penance

:\

[shadow onyx]

idk what to replace

infested yo os hound

or ogryn

[digital narwhal]

Replace Unyielding

Infested also goes towards Poxwalkers

[austere estuary]

yeah

if only it worked on beast of nurgle/plague ogryn

also works on poxwlaker I think but uh

well

[maiden wolf]

+Stamina also improves deflection capabilities.

[atomic dagger]

honest question: is this photo shopped? o_O

[maiden wolf]

Sure has lots of synergy with Quietude since it builds peril really fast, which you can then quell with a non-force melee.

[austere estuary]

no

who has time for that

[maiden wolf]

Can't wait for the helmet that covers our eyes. It honestly looks sick.

[digital narwhal]

You know what I mean :V

[maiden wolf]

No, no, I agree, if you could pull up my chat history, you'd see that I'm always complaining about a lack of gear synergy.

[digital narwhal]

Ye

Like, Trauma should also be a Soulblaze Staff imo

[maiden wolf]

Yeah

[digital narwhal]

Psyker Talent Tree just needs a rework tbh too

[maiden wolf]

Its weird that all sources of soulblaze are meh except for Purge staff

I've made a bunch of suggestions for a feat that imbues guns with warp powers.

I'd love to try out a Shred+Blazig spirit force sword

[digital narwhal]

If they do that, it'll probably be another Class for the Psyker Archetype

[maiden wolf]

Yeah

[west stream]

sire melk got this

not super sure warp flurry is great for surge tho

thoughts?

[digital narwhal]

Like, the Soulblaze on killing Elites/Specialists with Brain Burst should just apply to every enemy.

2 Stacks isn't exactly much either iirc

[west stream]

I dont mind it being elites

I wouild make it affect a lot more enemies with soulbalze tho

more stacks too

[digital narwhal]

I feel like having it apply to every enemy instead of just when killing Elites/Specialists (and applying more than 2 piddly stacks) would be better.

Making a Soulblaze build without a Purgatus Staff should be a viable move.

Instead of being forced into Purgatus for it.

[manic needle]

Oh hey look it's my Voidstrike setup

[digital narwhal]

This is my Voidstrike Setup too

:D

[manic needle]

Based

[digital narwhal]

With Purgatus I usually run 111112

[manic needle]

Does Psykinetic's Wrath affect soulblaze stacks?

[digital narwhal]

In what way?

You mean T2a?

Or the Ability?

[manic needle]

As in does the fire DoT deal more damage at high peril with the feat?

[digital narwhal]

I haven't the slightest.

Like, I'm not 100% sure.

But I heard it does.

[manic needle]

I always figured Id do 1-2-1-1-1-2 with a endgame Purgatus build

[digital narwhal]

And since the other two aren't as useful with Purgatus, that's what I run.

[manic needle]

I guess I should test it the next time I play

[digital narwhal]

Man, if Crafting Material costs for crafting were lowered, or we got an increase to the amount we pick-up in Missions, I'd play a lot more

Part of the reason I've been stagnating is because whenever I do see a good weapon.

I just

can't get materials fast enough.

It's a slog.

[north solstice]

you dont want to pay 800 plasteel for a marginally better weapon?

[manic needle]

The only good thing that I'd use in a build that Ive gotten from shops this year is a Force Sword, but I already have one that's about as good

[digital narwhal]

Like, I finally got a decent Voidstrike base.
Consecrated it up, it was looking good-
and then boom.
RUN 'N' GUN

This.

This isn't fun.

Spending hours and hours, working up to-

Run 'n' Gun.

[manic needle]

Hadron Moment

[sudden siren]

what perks to put on the dueling sword please?

block efficiency?

[digital narwhal]

Unarmoured + Flak

Ol' Reliable.

[long wharf]

Shred+BlazingSpirit isn't as good as it sounds

[sudden siren]

cool thanks

[long wharf]

paired with a crucian roulette pistol makes it almost usable

[manic needle]

Thats a shame

I'd be hesitant to give up Deflector anyway tbh

[digital narwhal]

Man, they should make Staff Bonk genuinely a viable tool

Pls FatShark

Give us good Special Actions

[hallow pivot]

what curio perks should i look for? lvl 23 about to hit 24

[cloud heron]

I like +health or +toughness matching the main blessing, then toughness regen (even though Its bugged right now), block efficiency, stamina regen, or ally revive

Also gunner resist

If I could magic up a perfect curio it would probably be toughness blessing with +toughness, +toughness regen, and block efficiency

[hallow pivot]

dont worry about health? @cloud heron

[long wharf]

Gunner res is decent, Sniper res is good

[spice veldt]

i'm a stamina regen% > block eff% > sprint eff% type of person

in order of priority

[cloud heron]

I was all in on health curios for a long time. As long as you can maintain toughness, toughness curios effectively give more health in the end

[keen meteor]

Sniper res is either good or moot depending on how good you are at reacting to the audio cue.

[cloud heron]

Its a line you have to feel out for yourself though.

[long wharf]

I go 2x health and a stamina

[forest coral]

I was lead to believe health was overall more useful since alot of things shred tough in 1-2 shots

[long wharf]

Yep

[forest coral]

does tough curio make huge diff?

[long wharf]

On heresy+ extra toughness is pointless

Too many situations that can strip your toughness

Having an extra 50 toughness is meaningless

[forest coral]

a single scab shooter take out 95% of my tough in a single burst in damnation

[floral solstice]

aka the darktide damnation experience

[long wharf]

Psykers don't have enough base toughness to make toughness curios worthwhile

[spice veldt]

for me, my reaction time is slow so the extra 50 toughness helps me take cover before i take health damage

[cloud heron]

I think you just have to feel it out for yourself. I play on damnation and feel I get more mileage out of toughness.

[floral solstice]

also can someone who tested gunner resist confirm to me that it affects regular shooters too

been seeing lots of conflicting opinions about that

[forest coral]

Ranni

[floral solstice]

yo kimo

[long wharf]

I don't think Gunner res affects mob shooters

[cloud heron]

At the end of the day theres no total health damage taken stat so its hard to say for sure. All I can really do is intuit the difference

[floral solstice]

i dont think so too tbh

imagine not having shooting dummies in meat grinder

[cloud heron]

I'm regards to toughness vs health to be clear, not the gunner resist question

[floral solstice]

2. Anyone tested gunner resist vs shotgunners

[manic needle]

Gunner Resist would be OP if it affected shooters and Gunner elites both

[long wharf]

They don't count as gunners

[manic needle]

Like there would be no question, everyone would need it

[floral solstice]

welp

[manic needle]

Still probably worthwhile vs. Shotgunners and the like though

Unfortunately I havent been able to get the curios I want in spite of all my time played

[austere estuary]

doesn't work v shotgunners

afaik

[manic needle]

Ahh well that sucks

[austere estuary]

not certain 100% but

I run 60% gunner res and there's a big diff for gunners and shotgunners seem to continue to not care

[jovial mural]

what is a curio psyker should go for?

[floral solstice]

let the devs play damnation and we'll have mob shooters resist in a week

[cloud heron]

Scroll up

[austere estuary]

I actually like toughness regen speed a lot - starting your regen sooner is what it actually does, but that often means more than you'd expect

[cloud heron]

I thought toughness regen just didnt work right now

[austere estuary]

well it certainly doesn't speed up your actual rate of regen

but my curio goals are: 21hp/21hp/17toughness main stats, with 5/5/5 toughness, 5/5/5 health and then for the last slots not sure

currently actually using just all toughness mains, 17s, with some more toughness on secondary, gunner res, one hp secondary, and toughness regen speed

if regen is actually doing 0 then I'll reroll it and miss the placebo

[cloud heron]

If youre looking for both health and toughness on a single curio youre going to be spending a lot of time waiting for shop refreshes and plasteel on upgrading useless curios

[manic needle]

The meatgrinder is so useless outside of testing offensives

[austere estuary]

I have a few 21% hp things, but not spending plasteel on em atm

meatgrinder having the medpak really implies there was a plan to have us able to take damage

[manic needle]

One of my 21 HP curios was ruined on consecrate, Ive only ever seen two

[austere estuary]

another thing they couldn't get done in time for the given release date

I've got 3 or 4 21% and seen some more

[ornate hamlet]

Just request

[austere estuary]

but nothing good enough yet

[ornate hamlet]

STOP TRIGGERING CARKING DEMON HOSTS

[austere estuary]

hit the demon host you say

[digital narwhal]

No.

[cloud heron]

No

[austere estuary]

understood

[manic needle]

1.) We've never played together
2.) You're not my REAL dad.
3.) Suffer not the Daemon to live

[digital narwhal]

I will Brain Burst every Daemonhost I see.

Just for you.

<3

[austere estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-kevin-malone-kevin-office-white-collar-gif-4013003

us all being childish contrarians together

[digital narwhal]

And those Blunts say we cannot partake in whimsical tomfoolery.

Guffaw.

[austere estuary]

re. curios tho I really do want to get some block + mega toughness combos

for deflection fun

oh actually, you know what's probably a bit junderrated

[ornate hamlet]

Then it’s auto leave upon a meeting of it , freak

[austere estuary]

trple res speed

[cloud heron]

Oh no

[manic needle]

https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/1988932521658569747/C7E220C25F5818A2BC4E9C88BFA65730ABC51038/?imw=5000&imh=5000&ima=fit&impolicy=Letterbox&imcolor=%23000000&letterbox=false

[cloud heron]

Please dont leave my game atilla

[manic needle]

My good health curio from back in the day

[austere estuary]

sick

[manic needle]

the other one has like dockets and exp on it, Ill probably trash it at some point

[digital narwhal]

...something, something, Blood God, something, something, Skull Throne.

[austere estuary]

Don't tell anyone but

I often run 30% dockets when beneath damnation

shhhh

[cloud heron]

I swear, 15% chance for a curio reward has like an 80% chance to be what I get when I turn a curio purple

[austere estuary]

the curio reward perk just seems so weird, like maybe curios were really op in the design at some point

hmm

[manic needle]

How CURIOus

[austere estuary]

thinking about it, I guess for the 3 sub blessings my ideals atm would be: block efficiency/ressurect speed/toughness maybe?

[cloud heron]

Also who is this horny dinosaur character

[maiden wolf]

I want to get triple stam regen and block efficiency.

[ornate hamlet]

Something somethign and bolt hits your karking scull

[digital narwhal]

*Karking

[manic needle]

Do you think its possible for Daemonhosts to spawn close enough together to trigger two at the same time with Ascendant Blaze? 🤔

[cloud heron]

Especially in lights out, ive seen some pretty close

[manic needle]

It's a Daemon party and you're all invited (Attendance is mandatory)

[cloud heron]

On throne side espionage specifically, there's one spawn at the top of the left hand stairs up to the bridge and another in between the two staircases

Like on top of the bridge, not on midway down like on the strike version

[regal musk]

I've run into 1 on a bridge we could barely slide past and then a second in the next room over ... Sat next to the medicae.
Poor servitor finally had some company I guess.

[vagrant cedar]

no more updates to the game?

damn

[cloud heron]

Were getting an update on the status of the update this week. For realsies this time

[austere estuary]

It really is like that

[digital narwhal]

Next Week, take it or leave it.

[vagrant cedar]

😄

[long wharf]

sorry, the best I can do is a promise to try to maybe get an update on the status of the update by end of February

[manic needle]

Waiting more than a month for a hotfix patch Next Week™️ is a certified Fatshark Moment

[forest coral]

Next week, there is another national holiday so they’re taking another week off. Maybe week after

[cloud heron]

You do what you gotta do for the dime

[long wharf]

due to inflation, it's now a quarter

[cloud heron]

Twentyfivecent?

[long wharf]

50cent changed his name to Buckfifty

[floral solstice]

*fiddy

it's already next week where are the goods

[bold flint]

extra dockets the goat

[gilded cloud]

I'm running extra exp rn as I'm leveling up

Level 25 now and running 6% exp bonus on 3 curios so 18%

[rare furnace]

How many matches can you skip like that

One or two ?

Don’t really know how strong exp is

[manic needle]

Imagine if you could grind out experience curios on your level 30 and then give them to your alts

[wet jacinth]

fatshark: That's Heretical thinking now

[cloud heron]

Yeah theres no way its enough to bother with

[shy warren]

what is the useless stat for purgatus?

[safe pendant]

I get by with warp resistance being my dump stat

[gilded cloud]

I'm playing malice so that's like 3k exp without counting special conditions or secondary objectives. But MINIMUM, I'm basically getting 1 am getting a bonus 540 exp per match and so every 5-6 matches I get the equivalent bonus exp of a match

[gilded cloud]

Damage I think

[gilded cloud]

Right?! That'd be cool

[regal musk]

IUve been curious about this for a while actually. In tyhe Damage breakdown, it refers to Burning Intensity. At 79% Damage, it reads as [0.32].
What do the numbers mean? XDD

[regal musk]

That looks like a critical failure.

[runic current]

yes but does criticals mater with surge staff

[regal musk]

Absolutely.

The final tick of damage at the end of the tesla effect is fairly significant on the right target

It also effects the primary ball shot

It affects the crit chance as well as the bonus damage from the crit.

[safe pendant]

Why are my hands so fat?

[forest coral]

oh lawd he coming

[manic needle]

Yet another Melk Moment

Upgrading a staff to Transcendent only to get Run 'n' Gun feels worse though

[regal musk]

3 Purgatus plus 1 Zealot with flamer ... That was an interesting run

[frozen osprey]

too many rations

[stray warren]

This does literally nothing to the insanely loud and spammy noises that hitting 100% peril over and over causes

[limber silo]

Works for me, sorry it didn't help you sibling

[rare furnace]

Okay sounds good enough

[limber silo]

I prefer the other duelling sword for it's combo, but that's nice

[forest coral]

duelling sword is ❤️

same with force sword

[limber silo]

Does Gunner resist not work against shotgunner???

[rapid flicker]

pyro squad

[stray warren]

Yeah I don't notice any difference between the two sound modes

[rapid flicker]

hearing that audio que makes me think surrounded by a horde

[stray warren]

It makes me wonder if anyone from the dev team even plays this class.

[vagrant cedar]

they don't even play the game

or any games

[limber silo]

Couldn't I run a Soulblase FS and be dollar store Purge staff?

I mean, who needs a ranged weapon at all when you have a Deflector/BS FS?

Crucian seems kinda busted for meme builds

[wet jacinth]

Crucian isnt intended

But a fun build to try out

At least until it's fixed

[forest coral]

Id be sad if they took it out, its a fun concept

[wet jacinth]

Enjoy it while it lasts

[forest coral]

[bold flint]

soulblaze force sword is a paradox

[safe pendant]

It's really satisfying to punch stuff and their head explodes

[regal musk]

Sadly the run failed. Mutie grabbed the zealot and flung him across the map into a horde.
Guy who went to save him got bodied by the horde and the guy i was with backed himself into a corner ... At the same time a horde triggered, which spawned from the ledge directly above the corner he was hiding in lol.
So i ended up with hordes in front, behind and above while solo XD
Im only barely average. No way i was clutching that with a Dueling sword lol

[rare furnace]

And you ad soulblaze

[regal musk]

Oh look. Finally, a Deflector sword. Pity about the stats ...

[floral solstice]

test it out for breakpoints

[worthy wedge]

What's crucian?

[floral solstice]

72 damage 80 first target FS is 64 - 106

[placid stratus]

Crucian Roulette. It's a blessing that gives you crit chance increase the less ammo you have left in your weapon's magazine

[solemn ibex]

Hey im new to psyker and was wonder if anyone has a brain burst build i could try

guide or whatever

[floral solstice]

well you can spam more brainbursts with level 30 feat kinetic barrage and also use psykinetic's aura feat

otherwise there's no real "brain burst build", you use brainburst to snipe specialists and squishy elites

[bold flint]

just use the perks in green and youll be fine 🙂

[forest coral]

Kinetic barrage makes BB much more reliable

[floral solstice]

dont use mind in motion lvl20 feat

you can just dodge-slide

[bold flint]

cbf

[forest coral]

giving up kinetic shield or deflection is kind of a huge loss tho

[floral solstice]

pretty much

[solemn ibex]

im listening

[placid stratus]

BB alone won't carry you through a mission, I would highly recommend you get yourself some decent weapons to do that for you. In the meantime, here's what I personally use for running a BB/Melee psyker

[stray warren]

Staves allow you to quell peril fast enough anyway, and unless you're using a Force Sword, you can just equip your primary to get the fast quelling.

[floral solstice]

maybe start with telling us which staff you prefer and we'll give you appropriate builds

[forest coral]

biggest advice about bb tho is to mainly use it on specials that are far away or in heavy cover and let the vets deal with most of the elites if you arent already with staff

or annoying shooters

[regal musk]

And light up the heads for all the vets to snipe before BB lands you mean

[solemn ibex]

so which staff is preference?

i assume force sword is just the way to go

[stray warren]

Killing a single rager on Heresy+ takes 2-3 BB's. Vets can kill them in 2-3 bullets. :L

[floral solstice]

there are 4 staves

[placid stratus]

Purgatus and Surge are both the top choices, from what I've heard

[floral solstice]

Purgatus is like a budget zealot flamer

[forest coral]

ye thats why its better to let the vets deal with them if theyre not swarmed

[floral solstice]

Surge is low on dps but stunlock, useful for premade teams/high difficulty etc

[forest coral]

but specials can fuk up ur whole team but a single bb kills them even on dam

[bold flint]

void only

[floral solstice]

Voidstrike is new yeah fireworks simulator idk jk

Trauma will give you trauma but it's viable for damnation

(it's basically a targeted aoe blast)

[bold flint]

a requirement for using trauma is earplugs

[forest coral]

surge with organized group in comms is happy moment

[solemn ibex]

may i ask kinetic flayer over warp batteru?

ask why**

battery**

[floral solstice]

before you think about having more warp charges

[bold flint]

warp battery is poopie, getting free damage and warp charges from flayer is poggers

[floral solstice]

just know that after the duration expires, you lose ALL warp charge stacks, not one by one

[forest coral]

Its hard to maintain stacks all the time and a free brain burst every 15 seconds or so is not to be underlooked

[floral solstice]

but it works well with purgatus build

[solemn ibex]

OHHHHHHH

[floral solstice]

i just dont like it

[solemn ibex]

gotcha

[forest coral]

like randomly killing a bulwark or rager in mid combat with a horde is kinda amazing

[regal musk]

Flayer is also handy for suddenly exploding shotgunners in a mixed horde who you cant see cos the world is on firee XD

[worn cypress]

warp battery only really worth if doing the ascendant blaze build

[solemn ibex]

okay yeah thats way better

[regal musk]

Ev en with AB, you'd also need Communion

[worn cypress]

yea

def

[regal musk]

Warp Charges suck as a mechanic and need fixing XD

[floral solstice]

i just hate using warp charges related stuff, and i refuse to use AB when it's in the same feat level as kinetic barrage

[forest coral]

if it only reduced by like one when timer ran out

[floral solstice]

just my personal preference

[forest coral]

it would be decent

but nah

[worn cypress]

I like them, just feels like they need tweaking like make it reduce by just one

[forest coral]

warp charges, timer out? lmao

[worn cypress]

or soemthing

[solemn ibex]

so you want deflector on force sword obv but what else works the best?

[floral solstice]

ascendant blaze definitely good for a warp charge build, but my god i tried it many times and i really can't force myself to like it

[worn cypress]

honestly this is the shittiest part

[regal musk]

Sure. Do that too. But it needs to not be locked behind a BB kill. By default at an absolute minimum, it should be on hit.

[worn cypress]

why would the thing that helps you rapidly build warp charges be at the same level as other stuff that spends your warp charges

[solemn ibex]

thanks for answering my questions btw

[floral solstice]

deflector is good yeah, but honestly it's not that mandatory to start using force swordf

depends on your playstyle

[worn cypress]

I like running AB when there's reliable vets and I dont have to head pop much

[floral solstice]

deflector or not you can start whacking elites and specials with fs

[solemn ibex]

i just find the brain bursting and bullet blocking fun

[floral solstice]

having deflector just helps you do resses vs ranged enemies and helps you reposition to cover when you're getting shot

[forest coral]

yeh psyker does really well at making ur team's life easier but dont expect to be filling up the kill list most of the time

[regal musk]

If only we could BB with the FS out.

[worn cypress]

I hunted for deflector sword for so long and nowadays I dont even use it tbh, duelling sword is so fun

[forest coral]

There are occasions when your staff spam frags out tho

[floral solstice]

if only i could BB random bad vets

jk

[solemn ibex]

i just wanna know what to hunt for so i dont waste currency

[forest coral]

ranni no bully

[placid stratus]

No, this is a sentiment I can agree with

[floral solstice]

oops did i say that out loud

[placid stratus]

As a vet main, it is incredibly frustrating to play with other vets who don't exactly know what they're doing

[forest coral]

safe bets are surge, purgatus and void staff, force sword, rapier mkii and antaxV

[floral solstice]

tylord i'd say start with either purgatus or surge staff, then tell us some time which u prefer so we can suggest builds

[worn cypress]

honestly after playing vet for a bit, starting to blame fatshark more than vet players

stupid power sword is so fun

[floral solstice]

purgatus for mobs and mid ranged firefights, decent stagger

[forest coral]

Ive seen knife psyker work with purgatus but that was more for its reposition than actually being used

[floral solstice]

surge sucks butt for hordes but super reliable stun

[bold flint]

i blame vets who spend 5 bolter rounds on 3 poxwalkers

[regal musk]

Power Sword wouldnt feel so OP if it functioned the same way as ALL other power up weapons

[worn cypress]

yup

[regal musk]

Power up = 1 cleave same as Chainswords etc. Itd feel fine

[forest coral]

imagine if power sword got stuck in the first target like thunder hammer does

[placid stratus]

If I could choke those kinds of players through my monitor, I'd do it in a heartbeat

[forest coral]

[solemn ibex]

unstable power and deflector seem good

or is exorcist better

[worn cypress]

deflector shows up rarely enough you'll take whatever that has deflector on it, lol

[regal musk]

Thunderhammer annoys me. The thunder should happen when hit the special during the swing, not a weird long chargeup and single pop

[solemn ibex]

i assume rebless will be around some day so im just wondering

[regal musk]

Heck, even just changing CHainswords and Thunderhammers to allow you to hold down the Special button while attacking to continously trigger the special effect at the cost of a visible charge/fuel bar ...

[floral solstice]

yeah but what year in fatshark's timeline

[solemn ibex]

good point kek

[forest coral]

42024

[solemn ibex]

okay i got one last question. perks for purgatus?

[forest coral]

crit rate

[solemn ibex]

tyty

have a good night fellas thanks for the help

[forest coral]

enjoy psyker

[wet jacinth]

[worthy wedge]

Do the Finesse and First Target stats ruin this?

[safe pendant]

Think maybe I should shoot for that Crit chance +5% instead?

[fierce sinew]

yes

[regal musk]

Finally get Deflector!
Literally forget to use it for an entire run.

_>

[wet jacinth]

yes

Finesse iirc affects your crit/atk speed

[regal musk]

First Target for some reason affects the special more than Damage does lol

[wet jacinth]

first target is meant towards cleaves but it hits 1 target anyhow so it's nice regardless

[worthy wedge]

dang, that's what I thought

[regal musk]

Yeah, confused me for a bit when my Deflector with 17% Damage did 100~ more damage on the Special than my non Deflector with 69% damage lol

[cyan notch]

its not meant for cleave

its meant for single target damage

[wet jacinth]

worded wrong but yes

first target in a cleave receives increased damage

[cyan notch]

well yea thats what first target means

dont really know what ur trying to say

[regal musk]

The wording specifically "Bonus damage on Light/Heavy to the first target struck when hitting multiple targets"
Says nothing about the special, Which is Not a cleave, Light OR Heavy strike lol.

[stuck bridge]

man it really sucks that my toughness just doesnt exist when i get shot once on damnation

[fierce sinew]

the FS special is a light or heavy attack until it actually connect with something, and does different damage depending on which you did. It wouldn't surprise me if it turned out it was in fact a (modified) light or heavy attack

for the purposes of stats/blessings that care about those

[regal musk]

Welcome to Darktide, where nothing works works like it says it should.
Whch is honestly on point for a lot of 40k tech ...

[fierce sinew]

every day it seems people are still surprised when I shout through a wall

[regal musk]

Walls mean nothing to the Warp 😛

[fierce sinew]

even basic fundamental game mechanics are obscure

[clear heath]

bro sometimes you can melee through a wall

[fierce sinew]

relative to almost any modern game

[regal musk]

You can also melee through floors

[stuck bridge]

meleeing through walls has saved me many times

[fierce sinew]

my expectation that things work according to the description or my intuition from games generally is at its lowest

with fatshark games

part of the charm I guess kek

[cyan notch]

chainsword doesnt say anything for the special in like 4 of its stats does it mean it doesnt affect it

thats just silly