Just like Sienna's 4th career. x.x
#psyker-class
maiden wolf
Not with that attitude
long wharf
not with any attitude
maiden wolf
I'm thinking of making a bell curve meme about the force swordz
long wharf
it wouldn't work
lapis bay
Definitely not but for a class that can snipe around corners with headpops, an elemental CC staff offhand, it's a well rounded circle. Plus we can, you know, hide behind immediate cover-- Ogryns are forcd to use a shield in anything higher than heresy
maiden wolf
"Force Sword is good."
"Nooo! Force sword is a crutch. It has terrible horde clear, and it enables bad positioning!"
"Force Sword is good."
long wharf
nobody calls fsword a crutch
lapis bay
"Force Sword is good."
"Nooo! Force sword is a crutch. It has terrible horde cl...
All I will say is this: for those who know, know
long wharf
fsword can be very good
frank talon
Staff is horde clear, fsword is elite kill
near gale
Maybe not, but, our peril block can block a while when at 1% stamina.
lapis bay
just not against a horde
There are better options but if you do swing>charge hit the cleave is actually not so bad. But I would def consider FSword to be an assassin weapon
long wharf
Maybe not, but, our peril block can block a while when at 1% stamina.
definitely
just not against multiple shooters on heresy+ for more than a second
long wharf
sure, and I like that too
I just want to make sure that people that don't know get the full story
deflector does make fsword better, but it's no ogryn shield
lapis bay
That's facts brother
long wharf
positioning is still very important, and situational awareness is always key
near gale
just not against multiple shooters on heresy+ for more than a second
Depends on if we have 3 stamina curios, +1 stamina on the weapon, and max block efficiency on the 3 curios and melee and t4 deflector
long wharf
it can absolutely be clutch, especially when picking up downed teammates
long wharf
Depends on if we have 3 stamina curios, +1 stamina on the weapon, and max block ...
I would like to see your video demonstrating that
it's kind of stupid that max stamina is even a part of the peril block equation
and peril resistance isn't
near gale
I would like to see your video demonstrating that
I don't have this, but, stamina and block efficiency affecting peril generation would definitely help
long wharf
they do, I've looked at the code, and people have done testing
the question is - do they help enough to stand in front of a line of shooters on heresy+
lapis bay
If you hit max peril (kinetic barrier wont work if you're in critical peril) it goes into stam blocking automatically. iirc it's 85% peril? I dont remember
long wharf
90%
near gale
they do, I've looked at the code, and people have done testing
I know, that's why I can say that bs with confidence.
We can then use our career to remove ~50% of the peril too
long wharf
yep, every ~30 seconds
lapis bay
Also does anyone know the exact percentage that we get the random 10% peril decrease on kill?
near gale
yep, every ~30 seconds
How bold of you to assume that I would go to all that trouble and not bring the 12.5% cdr per warp charge with 6 max warp charges. If I'm bringing the bs I stated I will bring the insurance too.
long wharf
that feat should be reworked
near gale
75% cdr, and heresy+ gives lots of 4% chances of warp charges
long wharf
cut the base recharge time in half, give recharge time on kills, maybe both
near gale
cut the base recharge time in half, give recharge time on kills, maybe both
I would be stupid enough to go all the way like that. I wouldn't half ass it.
lapis bay
How would you guys buff BB on heresy+?
I'd say taking off one second from cast time, and making the damage scalar to health %
wet belfry
The only thing i really think is we need a more consistent way for the brainburst to do things.
near gale
How would you guys buff BB on heresy+?
The lvl 30 feat already does this...
wet belfry
Like often it happens where the target gets killed before brainburst does anything.
More then that brainburst is fine
long wharf
change Wrack and Ruin to be "when hitting elite with BB" instead of on kill
crude talon
The way to make BB more consistent is to get good.
long wharf
because 3 stacks of soulblaze is worthless by itself
long wharf
The way to make BB more consistent is to get good.
wrong
BB goes from something that can kill everything to something you don't use outside of fleeing specials or enemies the team can't reach
lapis bay
The way to make BB more consistent is to get good.
I know you're memeing but people who have no issues with it, I find, regularly don't do much of the more challenging content
crude talon
Oh yea? Lmao
near gale
Is it just me or does the 25% faster bb charge speed feel more like 33%-50%?
lapis bay
Yeah I mean a lasgun shouldn't do the same amount of damage in 2 shots with 2 clicks
long wharf
I'd like to see Kinetic Barrage be a constant buff instead of on-ult
near gale
That would be very nice
crude talon
A friend of mine suggested making BB always be a kill, but for larger HP pools it takes longer to charge maybe. Shorter for smaller HP pools.
lapis bay
A friend of mine suggested making BB always be a kill, but for larger HP pools i...
Dude that would be awesome honestly. A longer risk, a greater reward
crude talon
But, I think if you are picking targets well and playing with a team, BB isn’t in such a bad state. It’s literally click on target damage from insane distances.
Sometimes I think people want to change things just because
long wharf
A friend of mine suggested making BB always be a kill, but for larger HP pools i...
a friend of yours? did they suggest that before or after you read me (and likely others) saying that in here?
crude talon
And, before someone says, “but, in pugs…”
long wharf
I've been saying that for a couple weeks now
crude talon
a friend of yours? did they suggest that before or after you read me (and likely...
My friend @north parcel said that
lapis bay
Problem is, on higher difficulties the Director likes to spawn enemies behind you and the chances of you having any clarity of casting in high intensity fights makes it more a weakness
crude talon
I don’t pay attention to your bullshit
crude talon
I just joined this discord like yesterday or the day before or something like that. I ain’t sat here reading everything lol
crude talon
Problem is, on higher difficulties the Director likes to spawn enemies behind yo...
A lot of the time I play back line for my guys. Stopping everything from behind and helping to kill ogryn/other stuff in the front when back is clear.
I’d hazard a guess that, most people poopooing BB are pugging, which, you can’t pug proof these abilities that well without straight up breaking them.
long wharf
I’d hazard a guess that, most people poopooing BB are pugging, which, you can’t ...
wrong again
but go ahead and take your I've-been-here-a-day experience and project it onto others
crude talon
I’ve been in the discord a day, not playing the game for a day you fucking invalid.
long wharf
then you have even less excuse for being so wrong
lapis bay
I’d hazard a guess that, most people poopooing BB are pugging, which, you can’t ...
Cant speak for everyone, but it's 50-50. If we're doing heresy and being charged by two maulers, a reaper, and a shielded orgyn-- our zealot is handling the lesser mobs, our vet trying to shoot the ranged dudes, who do you target with your two BBs first?
Two BBs which wont kill anything by themselves sadly
twilit flicker
And here i thought psyker chat wasnt full of know-it-alls. Leys see what the devs think ... by waiting.
crude talon
Depends on what I’m running. Sometimes I’m stunning shit, charging a FS because on some enemies it just does more damage than BB. Probably bursting the bulwark since they are the most oppressive.
wanton cove
Cant speak for everyone, but it's 50-50. If we're doing heresy and being charged...
If I’m with my friends which I usually am now - shield guy to stagger with BB and vet blasts him. Then it just depends on the situation
crude talon
If I have a purge, my zealot friend is dancing a circle around all of those enemies destroying them with an axe
And I’m clearing any horde.
wanton cove
Mauler easy to dodge but sometimes ppl are bogged down. Nice part about KB is I can quickly handle the reaper on 4 then assist with mauler. But every elite wave is different sooo. Yeah. Read the room every time for me 🤣
wanton cove
If I have a purge, my zealot friend is dancing a circle around all of those enem...
Love my purge! It’s also my only decent staff lol
near gale
Cant speak for everyone, but it's 50-50. If we're doing heresy and being charged...
None, I use my surge staff to stun them... x.x
hazy locust
How would you guys buff BB on heresy+?
give gun psykers more ammo if they dont use bb. 
crude talon
Love my purge! It’s also my only decent staff lol
I got a 380 roll on mine! It’s great but I like surge because I like to play support psyker
wanton cove
Let us make bullets with our mind!
long wharf
Cant speak for everyone, but it's 50-50. If we're doing heresy and being charged...
yep, trick question, because your two BBs aren't going to kill anything, and you taking yourself out of the fight for 6 seconds is a detriment to the team
hazy locust
I got a 380 roll on mine! It’s great but I like surge because I like to play sup...
what staff is best for healing
lapis bay
I cant wait for the subclass with the "throwing knives"
wanton cove
Disagree with u there because with KB it doesn’t take long at all to stagger the shield @long wharf
near gale
Yes I know you're making a point, and my answer is actually proving it.
crude talon
Your two BBs are at LEAST stunning the bulwark so someone can stab it.
long wharf
sounds like a zealot subclass
long wharf
Your two BBs are at LEAST stunning the bulwark so someone can stab it.
surge is stunning the bulwark, next.
wanton cove
And my purgatus charge up doesn’t take more then a second to clear anything else around me after that
near gale
Your two BBs are at LEAST stunning the bulwark so someone can stab it.
Surge goes through the shield
lapis bay
It does but they datamined it for us. We get throwing knives (assuming as our G skill) and a deployable force field/shield
crude talon
Yea but you might not have a surge
wanton cove
Only thing is lately I’ve been experimenting with ascendant blaze so I haven’t had KB
crude talon
Obv
near gale
And stuns the maulers
hazy locust
I cant wait for the subclass with the "throwing knives"
hear me out, failed transformation vegeta + goku psyker build, instead of burst, you float around the room and do +burn +bleed AOE damage in the form of a green funk cloud that wafts behind you 
lapis bay
All I'm saying is I wouldn't be mad if they gave BB some love
wanton cove
No surge for me rn
near gale
Yea but you might not have a surge
You might not have a surge, but I will.
lapis bay
hear me out, failed transformation vegeta + goku psyker build, instead of burst,...
Vegito ki blasts
wanton cove
All I'm saying is I wouldn't be mad if they gave BB some love
You speak for most of us sibling ❤️
hazy locust
Vegito ki blasts
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crude talon
All I'm saying is I wouldn't be mad if they gave BB some love
Of course. Like. If your shit gets buffed it’s gonna be good. I want force sword buffs, but they probably aren’t warranted
north parcel
Did you ping me 
wanton cove
Love my deflector. Hate the attack pattern XD
crude talon
Yea @north parcel some spurg thought I stole his BB buff idea lmao
But I told them yours
About having it always be a kill but take longer on big HP pools
north parcel
No one can ever have the same thought 
crude talon
Truuu
wanton cove
We’re oysters we share all of our thoughts unintentionally
crude talon
Freyja is a zealot main he hates us in here
lapis bay
Ah not another shouty
hazy locust
Hey... everyone is wrong sometimes.
crude talon
Plotting to axe us all a question one day
wanton cove
Psykers also lol
north parcel
I don't hate freaks psykers
hazy locust
I resemble that remark.
wanton cove
Compared to this chat general is a straight up cesspool lol
crude talon
We are discussing BB changes @north parcel some people just have shit filled diapers but most of the people discussing it are good. 
north parcel
General chat doesn't even talk about the game, jist shit slinging between doomsayers and white knights
hazy locust
We are discussing BB changes <@180874073193054208> some people just have shit fi...
well if you'd hurry up with the wet wipes already.
near gale
Plotting to axe us all a question one day
I, for one, can't wait. x.x
wanton cove
General chat doesn't even talk about the game, jist shit slinging between doomsa...
It’s the same salty comments over and over and over 😵💫
crude talon
well *if you'd hurry up with the wet wipes already.*
I went to Brazil and they have full on bidets there. They are great
hazy locust
I went to Brazil and they have full on bidets there. They are great
Hello I am from the US and i use a bidet.
north parcel
However I reside in it, because as a shit person I am with my people 
hazy locust
doesnt help me in this diaper though
hazy locust
... there are fake bidets?
crude talon
Idk hard to explain you’d have to see it
crude talon
It’s like a sink for your asshole lmao
wanton cove
🤣
crude talon
Their plumbing is bad there
near gale
https://tenor.com/view/water-gun-melissa-mc-carthy-gotcha-attack-childish-gif-77...
Hey, you leave my kantrael 4 out of this!
crude talon
ANYWAY @north parcel tell them your BB thoughts
north parcel
crude talon
Bye babe
crude talon
Lmao
hazy locust
not purg = no buy
crude talon
Only real chads use surge
lapis bay
not purg dont spurg
crude talon
I play this game with the power of friendship in mind so I use surge
still hearth
Bring a gun
still hearth
might as well play Vet
I'd rather die
crude talon
And flame everything else
crude talon
This my fren btw I can stay that to him
lapis bay
Who uses fsword with staff
I go full gandalf with sword and staff
crude talon
Who uses fsword with staff
People that get bored with dueling or chain sword lol
still hearth
I go full gandalf with sword and staff
Claw and Voidstrike
crude talon
I just REALLY like the charge heavy on FS
north parcel
is that the Kamehameha or the really terrible circle on ground staff?
crude talon
Void is kamehameha
still hearth
Void is disk
crude talon
Sam only speaks in anime
lapis bay
is that the Kamehameha or the really terrible circle on ground staff?
I love how you gotta aim up like it's a grenade even though it doesn't show a trajectory and has a wack ass targeting circle
crude talon
Trauma is the circle on the ground
still hearth
north parcel
Trauma is the circle on the ground
crude talon
And bad yea
lapis bay
It gave me trauma using it, so it's aptly named
crude talon
Lmao
olive ember
Trauma gives me trauma
still hearth
If only it didn't do ZERO DAMAGE outside or the inner centre
crude talon
#maketraumagreatagain
still hearth
It would be okay
lapis bay
It'd be amazing if you could use itbehind cover to pop those annoying shooters out
still hearth
It does 800 in centre, 40 outside 
north parcel
Id rather play in damnation with infinite dogs, on the desert map with 3 lvl 1 people who have never played a videogame in their life. Than use the Ground AOE staff
crude talon
Lmao
Now that I’ve triggered someone in chat into being silent I’m gonna go do something at work. Bye everyone!
warped tundra
is there something somewhere for BiS weapon/stats for psyker that i can read about?
maiden wolf
is there something somewhere for BiS weapon/stats for psyker that i can read abo...
The general consensus seems to be Purge>Surge>Voidstrike>Trauma>MKI Autogun for ranged
still hearth
Mg12>All
maiden wolf
Force Sword > MK5 axe >Duelling Sword > Catachan for melee
warped tundra
damn the autogun?
still hearth
Agripa is always a nice gun
maiden wolf
Agripa is always a nice gun
Yeah
maiden wolf
damn the autogun?
Yeah, Psyker only has 4 staff options
Purge is generakly considered the best, although it gas a glaring range issue
still hearth
And Zealots sometimes run flamer and then purge is just a worse option.
But you can't trust pubs
viral solstice
all staves are equally good because they all have the op staff combo
i will not be taking questions at this time
maiden wolf
damn the autogun?
Purge is good for easy horde clear, Surge stunlocks high value targets, Voidstrike horde-clears and suppresses from a very long distance, Trauma has great CC.
warped tundra
about statwise now?
maiden wolf
about statwise now?
Well they all do completely different things. So they're hard to compre statwise. But Surge generates peril really fast, while Voidstrike and Purge have pretty good sustain.
I haven't used trauma that mich but it seems middle of the road.
warped tundra
hmm maybe i should say more like when looking for a weapon - whats the best stats/blessing etc lol
maiden wolf
hmm maybe i should say more like when looking for a weapon - whats the best stat...
Well on purge, Burn and cloud radius are the most important stats.
maiden wolf
hmm maybe i should say more like when looking for a weapon - whats the best stat...
Charge Rate, Damage, and Radius are important on trauma.
maiden wolf
hmm maybe i should say more like when looking for a weapon - whats the best stat...
You should look for focused channeling on the purge staff, since you'll tend to use it at very close range
maiden wolf
hmm maybe i should say more like when looking for a weapon - whats the best stat...
On surge, charge rategives you more damage, but slightly higher peril generation. In general crit power and damage are inportant on surge
warped tundra
thanks much
maiden wolf
thanks much
And transfer peril is a must on voidstrike since you can actually quell more than you generate with each shot
maiden wolf
thanks much
Finally, the deflector blessing on Force Sword is a favourite, combining it with the kinetic deflection feat lets you block bullets and lasers whenever you're caught in the open.
west galleon
After a lot of testing an some runs with people that should be replaced with bots on heresy+ i come to the conclusion that i actually like the voidstrike
After that its infantry or recon lasgun depending on the mission
I need that range
tulip viper
But what about the flames of a purgatus staff? 
west galleon
I dont like being ineffective after a set amount of distance
tulip viper
Ah yeah, true true
devout belfry
Purge staff left click is terrible. And the primary had bad range. I'll leave toasting to the zealot.
long wharf
Yeah, I wish using purge felt better
west galleon
Not being able to get rid of elites that are out of staff range got me killed too many times, some people are like golden retrievers playing this game
0 focus if there's no incentive (treat)
ruby meadow
Surge just feels invaluable, you make everyone like 10 times better stunlocking
Although, it kills crushers/bulwarks/flak easily by itself
west galleon
I dont want to feed a melee vets ego tbh
crude talon
Surge is the Chad staff
west galleon
Might be a good chunk of pettiness i guess
ruby meadow
You buy your team a ton of space with surge
sleek yacht
u dont want to work with a teammate in a coop game
west galleon
u dont want to work with a teammate in a coop game
I expect teamplay in a team game yes
proud mantle
Purge staff left click is terrible. And the primary had bad range. I'll leave to...
it's decent for quick stagger instead of swapping to melee or gives you the chance to swap to melee or bb for free
west galleon
Its not a one way street where one guy has to pick up the slack because people dont want to cover each others back
shadow onyx
Stand in front of Vet and show him the warp
b ased
proud mantle
<:Phaleg_ThumbsUp:787356084779089960>
ngl i thought was that cynthia from pokemon
spice palm
When is psyker not gonna get the worst deal of both ends lol
spice palm
Is that a thing in 40k?
No but there's force axe
spice palm
Our damage and shit is outdone and our hp is shit with a downside peril that builds faster than Venezuela inflation
Itd be one thing if psyker is stupid damage but glass cannon build but sharpshooter does everything we do but better for example
Long range boi? Blast in the head
Tanky dude? Use the power sword
Etc
crude talon
Vets all are still breastfeeding. They need all the help they can get
crude talon
Of a vet breastfeeding? Lol
Whatchu mean I didn’t disagree
Vet is like playing story mode
devout belfry
it's decent for quick stagger instead of swapping to melee or gives you the chan...
Melee swap is instant. Swapping and pushing is faster with a higher stagger value.
mighty pike
Our damage and shit is outdone and our hp is shit with a downside peril that bui...
yeah, but: playing veteran is dull as fuck. and we get multiple choice of staffs
spice palm
Vet is like playing story mode
Wo
spice palm
yeah, but: playing veteran is dull as fuck. and we get multiple choice of staffs
But op pls nerf as well
Playing vet is like the doom slayer vs a eldar kindergarten school
crude talon
Playing vet is supposed to be so boring you volley fire yourself irl
But if you really wanna know why psyker isn’t as good it’s simple: the intention for psyker is for them to be a support class.
Shocking, I know. But. It is what it is
mighty pike
psyker's not even that bad. its exaggerated
crude talon
It’s not. But people think damage is the only thing that matters and thus
Here we are
spice palm
Na that's not wat I mean
long wharf
Because a dead enemy is always preferable to a controlled enemy
DPS will always be king, because enemies have to die
twilit flicker
Thats just a different form of conrolled enemy!
long wharf
But a good support means other players are able to do their jobs more easily
crude talon
Lmao
Anyway. @spice palm I’m sure in 12 years they will put out a psyker class that isn’t a support
twilit flicker
How's this unoriginal idea, a melee psyker with a two handed force sword, supported by a zealot with ... shouts n'stuff
crude talon
Just be good at the game and carry vets on the “weakest class”
mighty pike
How's this unoriginal idea, a melee psyker with a two handed force sword, suppor...
that's just the Unchained from vermintide 2 and i completely agree it's necessary for the game
twilit flicker
I'm already at the edge of my seat, I can't wait!
mighty pike
I'm already at the edge of my seat, I can't wait!
Well.. you're going to have to. for at least several more months.
crude talon
I like when games have an approach where there are obvious support style characters and DPS characters but, as soon as they add a DPS variant for each class that’s all you’ll see
The 1 dimensional thinking hive mind will take over fully at that point
spice palm
I'd rather be able to kill enemies with my mind then be a living tazer
mighty pike
My best time playing a support in any game in my lifetime was medic in Battlefield 1. Support potential was incredible and you weren't useless in combat either. Never played a game that gave me that potential since
spice palm
If I wanna support I'd do healing and armor adding
But that ain't in the game
Strange no?
So where the buffed psyker soon
Like dam
mighty pike
Nothing soon
near wyvern
Soon™️
mighty pike
I actually am creeping closer to uninstalling the game
spice palm
I don't got friends to play this shit with
Oof
Like it's fun until ya realize ya need friends to make it goofier
near wyvern
Nah, you can make it goofier by trying to make your character look as bad as you can
crude talon
If fat shark dicks around too much longer it’s gonna be like that for a lot of people
near wyvern
The anti-fashion is funny. So many people just quit the moment they see some proper anti-fashion with a knife
crude talon
I don't got friends to play this shit with
Well, play with people in this discord
near wyvern
Those are strangers
mighty pike
The anti-fashion is funny. So many people just quit the moment they see some pro...
anti-fashion as in... people dressing badly?
mighty pike
Those are strangers
only temporarily
near wyvern
anti-fashion as in... people dressing badly?
Yea
near wyvern
The uglier character you have the better
crude talon
I wanna play with people from this discord 🙂 that would be entertaining
near wyvern
And bonus points for doing it with free gear
mighty pike
lore-accurate Disgusting Creature roleplay
near wyvern
I wanna play with people from this discord 🙂 that would be entertaining
Just check the LFG channels and pick your region
mighty pike
... so do the accents mean that France exists canonically? Or that gigantic chunks of French-accented people live somewhere for long enough that everyone sounds that way? Is there a french hive city somewhere?
mighty pike
Nah. I was specific people. For reasons
send people messages and ask
maiden wolf
How's this unoriginal idea, a melee psyker with a two handed force sword, suppor...
I love it.
crude talon
... so do the accents mean that France exists canonically? Or that gigantic chun...
The French surviving the grim dark future is more unrealistic than anything else
maiden wolf
... so do the accents mean that France exists canonically? Or that gigantic chun...
Well part of the lore is that human civilization was fragmented and isolated for a long time, so it stands to reason that there'd be different accents.
mighty pike
The French surviving the grim dark future is more unrealistic than anything else
idk. I think if anyone is coming out on top of a brutal managerial regime it would be the french
mighty pike
Well part of the lore is that human civilization was fragmented and isolated for...
but only if they got there as a huge community first. Unless it's not actually French, its just an accent that we can only replicate irl through a French one.
spice palm
What bout the German psyker
mighty pike
Same issue with him. And anyone else with an accent
wise quail
German psyker shouting "Ammo!" Is the best thing about this game
maiden wolf
Same issue with him. And anyone else with an accent
Okay, but whose accent is the valid one?
mighty pike
What do you mean by "valid"
spice palm
Na they should have stoic psyker break the fourth wall like the German psyker
To make it funi
maiden wolf
What do you mean by "valid"
"And anyone else with an accent" this implies that there is a character that doesn't have an accent.
neat summit
Too bad we don’t have a Newfoundland accent. That’d be pog af
mighty pike
"And anyone else with an accent" this implies that there is a character that doe...
Not necessarily. It just implies innately that other people have an accent
Whatever the case, accents exist and how is the question
maiden wolf
fair enough
scarlet bear
Good news
Fire staff is useful to light up now that the imperium forgot to pay power bills
plain tangle
whats the best dueling sword?
earnest peak
whats the best dueling sword?
might be more concerned with perks and blessings, MK V has longer dodge but thats mostly it
plain tangle
still waiting for that force greatsword
scarlet bear
They exist ?
mighty pike
whats the best dueling sword?
one of them is more focused on defence than cleave, one of the other two has a strikedown>vanguard heavy chain instead of a double vanguard. Minor if any changes in light attack moveset
near wyvern
whats the best dueling sword?
What are you after. Only mobility, mobility and trash cleave, or mobility and with trash cleave and some armour pen?
spice palm
Oof idk why but it'd be more epic if the lv 30 psyker ultimate to depend on your staff either do a gigantic volly of lightning or fire that does ungodly damage but your at critical peril and stunned for 5 seconds before it is all quelled and your back in the fight and depending on how many warp charges the how long it lasts can go from 5 to 10 seconds
near wyvern
Or just like... Replace the useless staff melee special into a special spell?
spice palm
That kinda works
Lol
But my idea still stands
A epic ass LV30 ultimate that u can swap with another
earnest peak
hey, staff melee head wonk is fun when you're fighting a lone groaner
spice palm
Staff is just meaty wack then a chuckle
lunar zephyr
Just upgraded this from a blue. The emperor protects.
earnest peak
Just upgraded this from a blue. The emperor protects.
nice, andyou haven't rerolled perk yet
near wyvern
Just upgraded this from a blue. The emperor protects.
That sweaty blessing roll
Were you afraid for your Plasteel? 😂
lunar zephyr
Just a little. ive got a pretty big chunk saved up tho
Im also pretty sure rerolls become free after a certain point of you buying em in the same instance. that happened on my vet
near wyvern
Yes re-rolls are free after 99 diamantine and 299 Plasteel but you can't change blessings yet
I have constantly zero Plasteel since I am looking for a bloodthirsty FS
lunar zephyr
I have constantly zero Plasteel since I am looking for a bloodthirsty FS
Its 100% gunna be your first roll after you give up
spice palm
Bru there's too much rng in darktide
spice palm
And it's like rngesus is kicking you in your ball every millisecond you play
At the speed of a astartes not in a good mood
near wyvern
I do remote work so I have a constant supply of FS waiting in line to be upgraded as soon as I can play and get the mats
spice palm
FS?
near wyvern
Force sword
Buying all the greens and whites so I can roll for the first blessing on them
Once the blessing extraction is released™️ I will slap bloodthirsty on a good FS but for that to happen I just need to find one
mighty pike
Oh they removed dogs?
near wyvern
Most likely will destroy the weapon in the process but that's speculation
near wyvern
Oh they removed dogs?
Yes it's lights out Daemonhost club time
...
Why did Fatshark get so obese?
They knew how to catch but had no idea how to release.
mighty pike
Yes it's lights out Daemonhost club time
Hm. Is that... interesting?
plain tangle
What are you after. Only mobility, mobility and trash cleave, or mobility and wi...
i mainly use the voidstrike to delete everything so anything with high mobility/shields to get people away from me
near wyvern
i mainly use the voidstrike to delete everything so anything with high mobility/...
In that case Mk V. Just be aware that the defence roll and mobility roll can have wasted stats, you want the dodge +% to sum to 15 as close as you can. The more the sum is over, the more wasted stats there are on it.
Knife is also a really good mobility stick if you run Kinetic Deflection. The push attack spam on it is super safe and deals crazy DPS.
round summit
is the peril shocktrooper best build?
near wyvern
is the peril shocktrooper best build?
There is no best build. It all depends from your team comp.
And player skill is much more important than the build you are using.
round summit
so if im playing with 3 randoms and dont know their build
still hearth
It's hard to do everything at once. I'd say prio is shooters and fast specials. Crushers and Bulwarks are scary but you can usually stall a bit to kill them and BB always works
If you want to get a high win rate with randos
Purge makes horde clear a non issue but shooters much more annoying
round summit
so what build? 😄
still hearth
If you can make it work I run gun Psyker and it's pretty effective. Mg12 lasgun + Force sword or dueling sword, then ascendent blaze lets you delete hordes that you shout on.
The other feats are preference imo.
round summit
okey thats good thanks!
still hearth
But trying out until you find your niche is the most fun imo
Make sure you stack before you use ascendent blaze though
4 stacks will put every normie mob into like 20% hp so they need one hit to die. 6 is required to outright kill them without other damage
lethal rain
has anyone seen bloodthirsty on a blue or purple force sword?
low patio
when do you unlock the flamethrower staff?
summer prairie
i've bloodthirsty on a purple FS
gloomy sequoia
when do you unlock the flamethrower staff?
15
gaunt stone
what perk do I roll on this?
worn dagger
personally I think 10% damage against specials doesn't provide too much value overall. I'd reroll that to 25% damage against mutants maybe
gaunt stone
I am a force sword player and the game said not anymore
wet jacinth
Precog is aight. 
near wyvern
i've bloodthirsty on a purple FS
Is it any good?
summer prairie
Even with rampage you don't hit any groaner/poxwalker breakpoints unless you also have warp charges. I guess with one warp charge, +25 unarmored and rampage you could one-shot groaners with light attacks
worn dagger
the mk5 is all about its heavies anyway
summer prairie
pygex: The blessing seems decent, but I haven't actually used it at all outside testing due to the otherwise poor stats
I would probably still reroll specialist damage to unarmored or infested damage
worn dagger
I'd combine it with a horde clearing staff and use it to kill elite single targets
summer prairie
you don't need block efficiency either but meh
worn dagger
cause the thing is, as nice as it is, if you wanted it to clear multiple groaners or infested you'd have plenty of better options that aren't the mk5 duelling. so building it that way seems suboptimal to me
it's not garbo though. it's a good blade. you can clear peril and overhead heavy elites into oblivion. rampage isn't ideal but meh
atomic dagger
1st time since release!
i got a staff as emperors blessing
but its sheit :X
olive cairn
I received a 460 trauma staff from the empurrurr... has anyone stuck with these at t4 up?
ember storm
For MagicMike wherever he may be
worthy wedge
What perks are people running on their psyker curios? Are there ones that sit above the rest, or are they all just kinda whatever you need most?
floral solstice
What perks are people running on their psyker curios? Are there ones that sit ab...
block efficiency is nice if you're running with kinetic deflection and force sword w/ deflector
otherwise you can just go for the usual stuff that you think you'll need, hp/tough/sniper resist etc
worthy wedge
cool
light lintel
So, finally reached lvl 30 on everyone, and the one thing I've noticed is that you have to work SOOOO MUCH harder on Psyker than any other class. Where as the Vet, you can literally phone it in and pretend like your playing hard.
shadow wigeon
So, finally reached lvl 30 on everyone, and the one thing I've noticed is that y...
Lots of key combos and tactical decisions to make... you are never quite on rails like you can be with vet
dry tide
Reminds me of a high intensity heresy game I joined and was immediately greeted with a zealot saying, "fucking psyker"
sonic coral
devil's paw strikes again
frank talon
Zealot was my easiest 30 but I don't feel as versatile as I do on my psyker
sonic coral
I guess it's not totally unusable?
fierce sinew
Vet's definitely easiest, but I don't think psyker is harder than ogryn really
fierce sinew
Ogryn is just big and gets shot up
frank talon
I actually hated looking for ammo after I finished my Psyker lmao
fierce sinew
way harder to position yourself as ogryn I think, and mispositioning yourself is the main way you die in this game
light lintel
All the stupid perks on vet, I barely need any ammo
oh and they just "hide" if they stand still
sonic coral
actually the damage range on force sword is pretty narrow, I'm only missing out on like 10 damage so I guess that's not that bad
light lintel
I wish we could get warp charges if we use the alt on the sword
sonic coral
that'd be nice
fierce sinew
Finesse and first target are where the force sword damage lives
if you have a dogwater finesse roll the rest can't save it
dry tide
I think the best thing for warp charges would be if they didn't vanish all at once
sonic coral
Finesse and first target are where the force sword damage lives
in that case I guess yeehaw on the above roll, I'll give it a go
shadow wigeon
actually the damage range on force sword is pretty narrow, I'm only missing out ...
Well, it depends where the break points are, because it's not the best swinging weapon. So if you have to add an extra attack to kill all the time, could be annoying. Worth testing in meat grinder.
sonic coral
Well, it depends where the break points are, because it's not the best swinging ...
good point
light lintel
I think the best thing for warp charges would be if they didn't vanish all at on...
Agreed!
Just like in VT2 I feel like there is an active Bias on certain characters
Not sure if thats by design or what
shadow wigeon
good point
if you don't have Deflector, then it will be fun just to use that.
sonic coral
since I already have Maniac on it, I'll probably reroll Weak Spot Damage to something else (or at least a higher version of Weak Spot), any thoughts?
sonic coral
if you don't have Deflector, then it will be fun just to use that.
I have a couple others with deflector but they are absolute trash lol
fierce sinew
Flak
sonic coral
I'm thinking either 10% weak spot or 5% critical (to go with the raised blessing), but flak is for sure the usual go-to... and considering all the helmets, probably best
wet belfry
Im pretty sure that veteran was the first class designed
So its just a simple amount of dev time assigned to differnet classes.
light lintel
This is the best one I have with deflector
fierce sinew
Unyielding is also better on force sword than most weapons, since hitting ogryn/bosses in the head is something you do with it a lot
wet belfry
Just the talent tree of the veteran feels the most complete
light lintel
Trash blessing
wet belfry
Veteran has the lowest amount of trash options in the talent tree
sonic coral
I'll probably go with flak just to make clearing trash easier, might change it later
shadow wigeon
I'm thinking either 10% weak spot or 5% critical (to go with the raised blessing...
+crit seems useless, I would keep +maniacs, and then flak.
floral solstice
imo you don't have to roll another damage stat on it if you're already hitting breakpoints + you're usually on your staff anyway and using force sword mostly for individual elites/specials, you can just run with block efficiency
shadow wigeon
Not that you're likely to use FS on maniacs but at least it's there in case
fierce sinew
once you hit the free rolls yeah, costs nothing but your sanity to swap for whatever role you have in mind for it
sonic coral
oo yea block efficiency, maybe
shadow wigeon
oh nerds i forgot blcok eff... yeah just default
floral solstice
or yeah just roll for flak or the usual safe perks if you feel like you're doing enough blocking without block eff, all up to how you play
fierce sinew
FS on maniacs (specifically mutants) is very common, if you have a force sword that's your best option to kill them by far
shadow wigeon
or yeah just roll for flak or the usual safe perks if you feel like you're doing...
If you want to absorb bullets, I find block eff is great. If it's just melee and you're not a total madlad, i dont find i need it as much.
fierce sinew
you charge when they do and one shot them
floral solstice
just don't be like those random shieldgryns that just brace their shield on almost every encounter kek
shadow wigeon
FS on maniacs (specifically mutants) is very common, if you have a force sword t...
Mutants yes, the rest not so much
I would be happy with +maniac, but it wont get a ton of mileage
fierce sinew
yeah, swordfighting with ragers and trappers isn't the best use of your time
sonic coral
Currently the sword has maniacs and weak spot damage, so weak spot is definitely the swap. Probably flak for the time being as even with my other, lower-level Deflectors I usually didn't have an issue tapping out
just remember to hit reapers in their big fat guts
shadow wigeon
just remember to hit reapers in their big fat guts
Weakspot is probably still better, but just barely (assuming +25 flak)
sonic coral
10% weakspot would def be more widely applicable
I'm thinking of obnoxious unarmored too
floral solstice
if you're mostly using surge/purg on scabs anyway then i personally wouldn't roll for flak
shadow wigeon
10% weakspot would def be more widely applicable
Finesse boost weak spot damage already, so you have a bonus to weak spot built in.
Reaper specifically your WS damage may still be better than +25 flak vs their body.
Also heavy attack FS is top to bottom so you're hitting heads already
sonic coral
default L attack dmg is 55, ws is 131, so even assuming it only applies to the "extra" 76 damage that's still an extra ~8 damage on even light attacks assuming I'm always swinging at heads
25% flak would be ~14
Not inconsiderable, but the variety of weakspots realistically you should always be aiming at with a FS (and the heavy damage WS attacks)...
Probably weak spot damage
and if WS damage applies to the entire sum listed under damage breakout, that's 13, making it the obvious winner in every case
shadow wigeon
WS bonus only matters for some breakpoints. If it doesn't help you get over a break point, it's useless.
If it does, it's amazing. Consider what targets you will be using FS on.
shadow wigeon
frankly even if it saves me a swing it's fine
Well that is the only thing it can do, so that's what you test for
cloud heron
wow a non-dog global modifier
crimson ravine
Hadron said time to brick this bitches shit twice HAHA!
steady skiff
who needs damage anyway lol
shadow wigeon
Hadron said time to brick this bitches shit twice HAHA!
im so sorry
crimson ravine
im so sorry
Note my recon lasguns so I can feel like I'm contributing to the team as a part vet
shadow wigeon
Note my recon lasguns so I can feel like I'm contributing to the team as a part ...
nice haha
sonic coral
seems to take 3 hits for trash heads on dam no matter what pretty much
so maybe block efficiency
shadow wigeon
who needs damage anyway lol
y know you just inspired me to find my best trauma staff and give it a try...
sonic coral
holy crap with the raised critical chance from the blessing plus the weak spot damage I get 300 DPS on crushers without even charging the sword lmao
alright guess I'll keep weak spot for toughies
steady skiff
y know you just inspired me to find my best trauma staff and give it a try...
feel free to do so
lets hope it works
remote void
Hadron said time to brick this bitches shit twice HAHA!
same as me
steady skiff
just thought its funny having a 316 with 4 almost 80 stats
shadow wigeon
lets hope it works
Well the damage range is 90-150, so 80% is probably around 130? tops? your 3% damage isn't the end of the world, and you have max utility. Maybe it's useful?
steady skiff
dont like the feel of trauma so far...
so i dont think i will buy
the blessing also doesnt work thaaaaat good with it so would have to check if there is sth better
long wharf
don't worry, most people don't like trauma staff
rose lily
believable, i've seen 3 in T4
near wyvern
It should be lights out as well so wouldn't be surprised for 4 to spawn even
crude talon
Trauma staff sucks wieners
rose lily
the most annoying condition, jesus fuck, i'd rather take on unending hounds
manic needle
☝️ Hates challenges created by atmosphere
rose lily
☝️ Hates challenges created by atmosphere
no just doesn't like not being able to see shit dude, it's also a beautiful game - so i miss out on that
manic needle
no just doesn't like not being able to see shit dude, it's also a beautiful game...
Theyre the same picture
crimson ravine
man that assassin final boss fight music when he goes HAKAKA AKAKAK WAKAKAK HAIKAKAKA he dont miss man he dont miss
rose lily
Theyre the same picture
nope
manic needle
Denial
manic needle
seems pretty good https://prnt.sc/5uQUzIldwfqE
Thats top tier, especially for a 338
safe pendant
First mission with lights out, psyker wakes up a daemonhost
thankfully he learned his lesson when we ran into two more
manic needle
Suffer not the Daemon to live [nods in approval]
crude talon
did you just come to pskyer chat to complain about our sibling?
safe pendant
no complaints here boss
cloud heron
kinetic deflection is so fucking godly
playing a damnation assassination mission and I picked up 9 people just in the boss fight
vagrant cedar
seems pretty good https://prnt.sc/5uQUzIldwfqE
ewww limbsplitter
fierce sinew
brutal momentum+limbsplitter is literally BiS
wanton cove
kinetic deflection is so fucking godly
If only I had better memory then a damn potato and would remember it doesn’t protect me from snipers 😡😭
gilded cloud
First mission with lights out, psyker wakes up a daemonhost
No no this is smart. The daemonhost glows. This is like a portable lantern
cloud heron
If only I had better memory then a damn potato and would remember it doesn’t pro...
What, you think a sniper would deal ranged damage?
wanton cove
What, you think a sniper would deal ranged damage?
I foolishly assumed they would shoot with bullets and not their mind 💩
Haha
wanton cove
Purgatus is a big torch right?…
gilded cloud
Also.... If I do quick play... How tf am I supposed to prepare for the special condition? The fuck
young spear
i will light up the path with warp light
safe pendant
New challenge. See how many daemonhosts you can wake up and activate while sprinting thru the level
cloud heron
Lights out is a bad condition and I will fight anyone that disagrees
gilded cloud
I don't need to light up the path. The Emperor will show me what I need to see
gilded cloud
Lights out is a bad condition and I will fight anyone that disagrees
Lights on condition instead. Brightness of screen is intensified 10x. Cannot be changed in menu
manic needle
Lights out is a bad condition and I will fight anyone that disagrees
Your opinion is wrong
gilded cloud
Special conditon: Nurgle's rot. Every enemy (including walkers), upon death, damages nearby players within melee range with the sweet juices of Nurgle.
safe pendant
Needs Big Head mode special condition. Everyone has bigger heads with appropriate hitboxes
manic needle
So does this just mean fuck the psykers who want to use staffs?
1.) Purgatus is a giant torch
2.) Voidstrike projectiles glow in the dark
3.) Surge staff targets regardless of visibility
4.) Trauma takes a big L lmao
floral solstice
play with 3 ogryns for even less visibility
cloud heron
You can't really use most of those as a good source of light
purge works for your team but not really for you
manic needle
You dont really need to see to target with purgatus
cloud heron
like, shooters are already the hardest enemy to deal with
manic needle
Same with Surge
cloud heron
lights out is just a buff for them
manic needle
Yeah the added challenge is really fun
gilded cloud
Needs Big Head mode special condition. Everyone has bigger heads with appropriat...
Mini mode: all enemies are 5x smaller in size, hp, and damage. There are 10x more enemies
safe pendant
The warp works in mysterious ways
gilded cloud
Maybe 20x more
manic needle
I think being able to combine conditions would be fantastic... if only the game let you set your own conditions and choose your own maps
High Intensity + Power Supply Interruption would be terrifying
idle shuttle
immeasurably complex to allow
fringe garden
the conditions currently have the huge downside of making quickplay annoying as fuck lol
manic needle
No different than if players could choose their own maps/conditions
safe pendant
All conditions all at once
gilded cloud
Condition: All perks and blessings no longer apply. Modifiers are decreased by half
manic needle
Crit bonus too high
still hearth
Does any surge force staff kill scab shooters
manic needle
I feel like all you have to do to kill Scab shooters with surge staff is sneeze while holding it
still hearth
Don't they have like 350 HP. Surge only seems to do around 350 at most (barring crits)?
manic needle
I'd have to log in to check how much damage it actually does. Base damage vs. Flak on my secondaries was around 440, I think, but as we know the surge staff has variable damage per hit
still hearth
I got into a mission but yeah it does seem to do way more to Flak
Though that's only the first target isn't it.
viral solstice
nice rolls at least and a fun theme
hoary leaf
Working on my Psyker rn and I wanted to ask for the Warp Siphon charges, do those buff all damage you deal or just warp based damage?
hoary leaf
Ok thank you, using a flashlight right now for a weekly and didnt know if that affect my guns damage
austere estuary
yeah you're good, guns are pretty fun with flayer as well if they have a high RoF
dense vault
I wish psyker could see the souls of enemies in darkness mode maps
give psyker innate nightvision like that
dense vault
i don´t want to use flashlight guns on my psyker
i can play other classes if i want to pew pew guns
austere estuary
I kinda like the tension of no light other than my teammates sometimes
dense vault
or you know, give me a damn headlamp...
dense vault
i know, i know
austere estuary
sorta
dense vault
"in the grim darkness yadda yadda yadda"
austere estuary
If only we had ducktape
reminds me of doom3
"couldn't possibly have torch and gun together"
except now it's staff
manic needle
Melk almost had something decent for me for the first time ever
Nice try Melk, maybe next month
brittle crest
so close
rose lily
did you just come to pskyer chat to complain about our sibling?
he did
manic needle
Never
mighty pike
Melk almost had something decent for me for the first time ever
This is great. Limbsplitter on a tactical axe not sure about though
manic needle
Limbsplitter to ruin the Headtaker blessing is a real Melk Moment
manic needle
At least Hadron has the good taste to insult you while she ruins your weapons, for that real "Step on me robo-mommmy" energy
mighty pike
Hadron can fuck off. At the end of the day I know where I'm sitting for lunch and that's with Sweet Sefoni
She has a supernatural laugh and she sees me as a plaything. Ideal wife material
rapid flicker
so hypothetically on what difficulty do you think you could carry a lvl 10 vet player with 2 bots
not personally but statistically
crude talon
I carry lv 30 players that act like bots all the time in damnation so.
wet belfry
Malice
Bots will get themselves killed
So its just me and the lvl 10 vet
I dont trust the average player, espically a lowel one.
Vets would have even worse statistics then then averages of other classes.
west galleon
is there even a way to do lights out as psyker w/o a gun thats got a torch?
cyan notch
not really that huge a deal imo
cyan notch
in general
west galleon
ye still though
earnest peak
Does force sword warp resistance carry over to staff?
manic needle
no
gilded cloud
Does quell speed stat affect passive quelling, manual, or both
manic needle
It only should affect active quelling, but I decided to see if I noticed a difference in passive quell only because I've never tested it before. If there IS a difference in passive quelling speed while holding the staff then it's not noticable between a 78% quell speed Voidstrike and a 42% quell speed Voidstrike, which was the lowest I could find in my inventory
long wharf
reminds me of doom3
the very first Doom3 mod was someone adding flashlights to all the guns
maiden wolf
The lights out effect has brought me back to really wanting an autopistol with cavalcade (crit chance) and Inspiring barrage(toughness regen).
lusty wave
What perks or stats should I be looking for, for a surge staff
maiden wolf
What perks or stats should I be looking for, for a surge staff
Warp Nexus, lots of crit bonus
lusty wave
@maiden wolf I heard crit was bugged
manic needle
It's not
lusty wave
Hmm ok
manic needle
Just a rumor that arose from the variable damage on a Surge staff
manic needle
Sustained Fire sadly only works on the left click attack
But the secondary perk doesnt matter much once you have Nexus
lusty wave
Okay
And for perks what's good for the surge staff?
Not the blessings lmao
Is more damage to pox walkers good
manic needle
Not really no
young spear
can brainburst crit?
manic needle
As mentioned look for crit enhancing perks, Also things like Flak, Carapace, etc are okay if you cant get those
lusty wave
O shit
young spear
oh wait
im dumb
it was the double brain burst i think
but it stacked up to one number
manic needle
It's definitely a flayer proc unless you were doing something to stack +Power before you BB'd
And if that's the case then I'd be interested to know what it was
I just had flayer cause the same display bug in the meatgrinder just now, so I;m guessing that's it
wheat kraken
siblings, how much does damage matter?
fresh reef
siblings, how much does damage matter?
God roll, buy it immediately
earnest peak
siblings, how much does damage matter?
dmg range on purg is not very hi, radius and burn are where its at
wanton cove
siblings, how much does damage matter?
Not much
earnest peak
perks on purg? Change specialist to flak?
you'll likely get more active use out of flak than specialists, upping crit to %5 probably isn't that big of a gain. But I'm not a dmg calc either.
wanton cove
das a decent staff
wheat quartz
I currently have it on crit, but I think I'm going to make it flak
I have enough crit from shred/warp nexus
cloud heron
Purge really likes crit because a crit applies 2 stacks of burn
not quite a god roll without warp nexus either, but definitely good
wet raven
siblings, how much does damage matter?
on purg? very very little, its damage comes from burn and crit
cerulean juniper
I guess I have to login and buy these :x
wheat kraken
thanks for all the answers guys, quess that flame staff will go nicely with https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1060753987244138496/image.png
stray pond
People keep linking 370-380 Force Swords and it keeps making me sad because the highest I usually find are like 330
wheat quartz
The highest I have is a 518 total T4 Deflector which Hadron gave quell on weakspot hit when I consecrated it
I was like "GIVE ME DAMAGE THAT ISN'T DAMAGE"
Deflector/Slaughter never
cloud heron
That's a huge deflector
regal musk
Random question: how do you all feel about Purgatus left click?
It's not a trick question lol, I just recently finally got a Purgatus worth using and I'm curious how others Pyskers tend to utilize the left click, if at all.
keen belfry
in store, worth?
west stream
Use it when manouvering
as in, fire it off quickly when passing enemies so they are staggered a little bit and dont immediately stab me
but that's my take
floral solstice
Random question: how do you all feel about Purgatus left click?
you spam left click if you wanna stagger elites/specials, very handy vs dogs
also faster than charging if there's a shooter on your face, gives you time to start using rmb
west stream
yeah, good when running to cover and if there's some shooters around
in general it's more of a "you want to stagger someone now so you can use right click or get out of immediate danger"
if I have time to just spam it I'd be right clicking
regal musk
Ah cool, that's basically how I've been using it lol
Doesn't seem to stack the Souoblaze much though. But it certainly wrecks doggos XD
floral solstice
one of the reasons why I didn't mind doggo modifier so much
if anything, more doggos means more practice with dealing with the little shits
manic needle
in store, worth?
Stats good, weak spot damage perk bad, warp flurry bad. If you buy it, you're rerolling the bad perk and hoping you get nexus on an upgrade imo. Also depends on whatever your current best is
maiden wolf
It's not a trick question lol, I just recently finally got a Purgatus worth usin...
Initiate with left click before charging a right click. Purgatus left click has really high stagger, you can stunlock enemies with it.
I've found that building peril with your force staff before running in with a non-force melee is a great way to generate toughness passively with quietude
I guess that's an old tech, but I think its one that would be valuable to new psyker players whi haven't unlocked the better feats.
digital narwhal
Grab good Trauma staffs for when they get buffed.
safe pendant
I got two 380s. Maybe I could dual wield
digital narwhal
Only when Ogryn's get a two-handed melee weapon.
naive dawn
https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/2004698925208033853/10C231C48E8CF9853436BCA1BEB1793924AF9266/ store was kind today from a grey.
cyan notch
wtf
digital narwhal
You lucky fucker.
naive dawn
Melk had this too, figured I'd buy it but I dont really like void.
floral solstice
maybe try for the lottery today too
manic needle
It doesnt
naive dawn
Didnt think so was testing it now :x
manic needle
But still you can put a different blessing on it eventually
Maybe even.... next week?
floral solstice
Maybe even.... next week?
is that a normal next week or fatshark's next week
naive dawn
We get updates next week, but updates on the state of the game.
I doubt we get actually game updates
manic needle
is that a normal next week or fatshark's next week
A Fatshark next week, of course
naive dawn
Especially since they were saying a large amount of effort is going into console port right now.
cloud heron
Melk had this too, figured I'd buy it but I dont really like void.
possibly the best melk item i've ever seen
wet jacinth
safe pendant
console port? so more people can be content starved?
naive dawn
Actually same for me For, normally melk is like sub 330 items.
cloud heron
loses points for being a void staff, but pretty amazing for what it is
wet jacinth
console port? so more people can be content starved?
laughs in Sienna 4th
floral solstice
Especially since they were saying a large amount of effort is going into console...
what it probably means is they started considering it just now and have written it on a notepad
naive dawn
I'm sure there is a lot they are working on, but I think people need to expect that we probably wont get anything significant update wise till probably feb/march. But that may just be being pessimistic.
wet jacinth
Your pessimistic is potentially accurate though
floral solstice
i'd call it realistic given their track record
naive dawn
I actually think crafting is way off, at least from what they said they overhauled the whole thing.
Which makes it was probably still in design/dev during launch.
Put that behind normal bug fixes/hotfixes and console.
wet jacinth
The whole Crafting system should've been a thing at launch.
naive dawn
I doubt crafting will be done for months.
wet jacinth
naive dawn
Apparently they had a system in place that they felt was worse than what we have. So they ripped it out and started over.
wet jacinth
Should've just delayed it imo
cloud heron
I assume all of the weapons with 3 versions used to be one version
naive dawn
Cant, shareholders and the big money people wont let them
cloud heron
the shop was probably a lot more manageable in that world
naive dawn
Plus was end of quarter, gotta make those sales margins
wet jacinth
I assume all of the weapons with 3 versions used to be one version
Doubt it.
cloud heron
Doubt it.
I mean they were one version with like a +fire rate mod, or a +damage mod, that would make it functionally like the 3 versions
but off of 1 base version
in addition to like modular flashlights and the like
regal musk
I've found that building peril with your force staff before running in with a no...
I actually ended up switching to Chainsword from Force Sword specifically to take advantage of this.
I also found that Quickswap alternating left clicks from Chainsword and Purgatus is better stagger than Block/Push XD
naive dawn
Yeh chainsword feels solid across the board, I'm still rolling a bleed dagger which I hope to make stronger once crafting patch kicks in.
regal musk
Chainsword rev is faster to do than FS special, does similar damage and costs no Peril ...
naive dawn
plus the natural peril quell with it out.
cyan notch
no force push and deflector tho
regal musk
Laughs in no deflector for 130 hours
manic needle
👆 Fastest case of armoury itemization
regal musk
I gave up trying to get a Deflector sword. Ill be happy if i ever see one, but Im not burning myself out chasing it down.
manic needle
I kind of wish you could trade items between characters/players. Id gladly give away the old ones Im not using anymore
placid stratus
Post yer Psyker Drip
Since you asked
west stream
It reminds me I need someone to help me get MM one day
safe pendant
Yo
regal musk
I kind of wish you could trade items between characters/players. Id gladly give ...
All they really need to do is replace the empty yellow creates with "Damaged wargear" that we can salvage and turn into gear of our choosing through sopending plasteel and Diamantine 😛
safe pendant
Lights out is gone already? Good while it lasted
west stream
walk out into darkness without flashlight
naive dawn
So someone joked about it in a post. But if there is a dog affix, maybe they make a burster affix.
west stream
pls no
safe pendant
trapper affix
manic needle
I wouldnt mind having instances of higher special spawns of varying types
naive dawn
or maybe more spawns of ragers/elites/crushers
west stream
trapper spam would be funny because you could lose instantly
cyan notch
every time i do excise vault after the servitor colony part the hordes never stop
west stream
guess dogs do that already tho
safe pendant
I sure do love traps
manic needle
Melee frenzy - remove all ranged enemy spawns (incl. specials), double or triple the melee special/elite spawn rate.
manic needle
every time i do excise vault after the servitor colony part the hordes never sto...
Yeah I have the same thing happen a lot, but not every game. It's definitely some kind of glitch
long wharf
okay, time to do some meme runs
... as long as you don't charge your force sword while at 100% peril, you don't explode
cyan notch
yes
long wharf
does charging the fsword make it count as a warp attack?
worthy wedge
I think so? But it doesn't count as BB
regal musk
I feel like the special action for the Force Sword should always have been to apply the Blitz action on hit.
That way if we get subclasses down the line with something other than BB, the FS can be naturally tailored to each subclass in a way that fits the lroe of Force Weapons being made for their users
cyan notch
fs special counts as warp attack for warp absorption but isnt a warp attack for cerebral lacrations iirc
regal musk
Cerebral Lacerations specifically applies on BB, so currently theres no reason for it apply from anything else. Though i stand by what i said prior 😛
long wharf
I think I'm seeing an issue with the charged fsword attack not proc'ing AB
worthy wedge
I'd like FS to count as BB. It would give more class coherency I think.
long wharf
when it crits, and soulblaze is being applied by the ticks, I think maybe it's not counting because the total attack starts on-hit, maybe?
regal musk
I'd like FS to count as BB. It would give more class coherency I think.
It should specifically cast BB, not just a mimic of it.
worthy wedge
Does charged FS do the same damage as BB right now? I like how FS works, just literally let that burst be a type of BB.
regal musk
I think ive seen it do between 450 and 800. Havent tested it in the grinder for a while
worthy wedge
Huh, weird
regal musk
If it actually did just allow us to drop a BB instead of the weird little pop of damage it does, it'd help with generating WCs and synergize with a bunch of our feats too.
long wharf
something is definitely fucky with the charged fsword attacks
worthy wedge
They seem to do more damage against armor sometimes. No idea what that's about
long wharf
I can see blazing spirit proc when I crit on a special attack
regal musk
You know whats real fucky though? Staff leftclicks (Not Purgatus) deal their exact damage to all enemy types except Crushers, hitting them in the gut does 90% less damage lol.
cyan notch
They seem to do more damage against armor sometimes. No idea what that's about
seems consistent for me
regal musk
Grats flamer.
long wharf
the worst stat to have low is low, though
regal musk
Now watch it roll ass blessings 😛
long wharf
anyways, I think the fsword's special attack isn't a series of hits
I think it counts as only one hit
regal musk
Thats because it is only one hit
long wharf
even though we see "ticks" of damage leading up to the big hit
regal musk
Technically 2 if you count the swing to trigger it
long wharf
which means there goes the idea of using the special to apply a lot of stacks of soulblaze
FartShart really can't let us have nice things
maiden wolf
If it actually did just allow us to drop a BB instead of the weird little pop of...
I think this change would be rad, the FS is already pretty stacked with weird abilities, but fuck it, I think exotic items are rad.
regal musk
Honestly itd fit with Psyker lore on Force Weapons more than the current weird suction pop it does lol
cyan notch
yes the special doesnt proc stuff like exorcist
long wharf
such bullshit
worthy wedge
I wish there were more talents (or traits or whatever they're called) that adjust BB in interesting ways. Most of the BB adjustments are uninteresting.
regal musk
Realistically, We should only have access to Force Weapons.
The lore is pretty unambiguous in stating that any melee weapon can be made into a Force Weapon barring chain weapons
It'd open out playstyle a lot more if we had a Force Combat/Tactical Axe that had the basic moveset of those axes but had the current FS Block/Push mechanic and Special action triggering a BB
Same with the knife etc.
long wharf
which means there's no reason to keep playing around with blazing spirit fswords until I get one with Bloodthirsty on it
regal musk
The lroe supports those weapons being able to become Force Weapons
rose lily
where can we find it confirmed that Burn is a clutch spec on the purg staff?
long wharf
by inspecting any purge staff and looking at the modifiers yourself
rose lily
by inspecting any purge staff and looking at the modifiers yourself
i'm checking the primary fire right now and here's what i've found
80% burn = 11 stacks of 2 dmg, 15 max DOT stacks, DOT 0.34
53% burn = 11 stacks of 2 dmg, 13 max DOT stacks, DOT 0.37
long wharf
max stacks is very important for soulblaze
rose lily
right, but it seems like that huge percentage difference makes a very small difference in stacks, and DOT
cyan notch
yea
if you dont need 15 stacks then u can focus on cloud radius
dont really know how the dot scales with rolls
since that number doesnt really mean anything
rose lily
if you dont need 15 stacks then u can focus on cloud radius
makes sense
yeah i guess i'll just focus on cloud radius because that actually seems to scale significantly
hexed marsh
That looks like about a 10% increase in DOT stat damage for those values just going by math
Curious to see what that actually looks like in in-game numbers
Probably can't test it tho unless you have two pieces of the same gear with matching gear score and stats
rose lily
That looks like about a 10% increase in DOT stat damage for those values just go...
in-game numbers as in the amount of stacks and each stack's damage?
hexed marsh
in-game numbers as in the amount of stacks and each stack's damage?
In game numbers as in damage against the enemies in actual gameplay
Like in the psykanium
gaunt stone
what is the worst stat on voidstrike?
regal musk
Quell Speed is the only one id consider for worst
hexed marsh
<@210925826479226880> i was comparing these two staffs in the psykanium and got ...
Ah gotcha I thought those were the stats you pulled from the weapon itself
manic needle
what is the worst stat on voidstrike?
Blast Radius is pretty dumpable
regal musk
Blast Radius is pretty dumpable
Disagree. High Blast Radius helps it control hordes.
manic needle
Oh boy, a minor stagger and 15 damage
regal musk
That minor stagger can save your life.
manic needle
Most of the time you're aiming for piercing headshots with voidstrike, anyway, so the blast does absolutely nothing
gaunt stone
so use this?
manic needle
so use this?
Yeah thats a pretty nice voidstrike
manic needle
Transfer Peril is BiS for Voidstrike
gaunt stone
what is the second blessing I should aim for?
manic needle
Sure, Warp Flurry are good secondaries, good luck getting Surge though.
gaunt stone
surge?
manic needle
Nexus is pretty good as well
gaunt stone
wait
gilded cloud
Transfer Peril is BiS for Voidstrike
I know it's important and one of the recommended blessings for it but what did BiS stand for
gaunt stone
has surge always been in the game?
manic needle
Best in Slot
gaunt stone
I swear I have never seen that one
gilded cloud
Ah ok
manic needle
It has, and that's because it's an exceedingly rare blessing that only spawns at T4
gaunt stone
what rating is t4
rose lily
Ah gotcha I thought those were the stats you pulled from the weapon itself
understood 😉
gilded cloud
I swear I have never seen that one
Yes. Trauma is the first one unlocked. Then surge. Void is third and purge is the last one unlocked
manic needle
what rating is t4
As in how much does it add in terms of points? I think 55
gaunt stone
Yes. Trauma is the first one unlocked. Then surge. Void is third and purge is th...
we are talking about the blessing lol
gilded cloud
we are talking about the blessing lol
gaunt stone
question why do I keep seeing weird nonsense on darktides build site?
why does this staff have melee buffs
manic needle
Unfortunately the third party websites arent really up to speed
manic needle
Surge wasnt even listed as a Voidstrike blessing as late as mid-December IIRC
gaunt stone
I see
so what should I be running on void strike for perks
that is essentially what I am looking for I am assuming crit and weakspot damage?
manic needle
Flak damage is good, so is weak spot damage and crit
valid marsh
manic needle
This was the super cool high stat weapon that Melk gave me today
regal musk
Gee thanks Melk.
There is literally not enough currency on offer through the contracts to buy this.
gilded cloud
What does Surge blessing do?
manic needle
Two hits when a critical hit is scored
gilded cloud
This was the super cool high stat weapon that Melk gave me today
Do you prefer using the axe as a psyker?
gilded cloud
Two hits when a critical hit is scored
How often do you notice crits happens?
manic needle
I used a Mk. 5 Combat Axe with Surge staff, and a Force Sword with Voidstrike. Psykers have a base crit chance of 5%
If you roll surge you'd want to roll a crit perk on your voidstrike
gilded cloud
Ah I see....
I have yet to try the combat axe or force sword
But Hadron's says you can only choose 1 perk to re-roll for a weapon
But can you only re-roll that one perk once?
Or if you don't like the new one... Can you re-roll that same one?
Or you're stuck
manic needle
You can reroll it as often as you want, as long as you can pay for it
The cost eventually becomes free
gilded cloud
After how much cost? Lol