psyker-class

[hot zephyr]

Purgatus really depends on your team tbh. Psyker with Purg needs a secondary horde clear to compliment them so you can take a break to manage your peril

If you are the only true horde clear on Damn on your team, you are going to have a bad time

[fierce sinew]

that's why you axe

active quelling feels pretty bad on damnation yeah

[dull haven]

Yea, with low warp resis on mine I've found having max warp ccharges at all times helps tremendously with the peril

[crude talon]

I just looked in gen chat in this discord. YIKES that place is a beehive

[hot zephyr]

Yeah, if you pair with a flamer zealot or something and rotate which of you is actively murdering the horde so you cover each other's reloads, they become a lot more manageable

[fierce sinew]

6 charge warp reduction helps a lot

psyker not needing a reload is one of the main advantages of the class

obviously more damage is better

[hot zephyr]

Yeah, warp battery + warp resistance is a huge help for that build. I'd argue it's almost mandatory.

Peril is your reload, you just get F as a free mini reload

[fierce sinew]

but you can manage without pretty well

I never quell during horde

[crude talon]

I like having a quick peril reducing melee

[dull haven]

Yea, with hordes

I'll just go over 100

[fierce sinew]

the passive quell while your axe is in hand is plenty

[dull haven]

And then use wrath

to recover

[hot zephyr]

Yeah, anything you like as melee weapon other than FS is key for pairing with purge

[dull haven]

But depends, if it's really needed or not

[hot zephyr]

Doesn't really matter what if you can make it work for you

[fierce sinew]

yeah, but meme axe seems like the best

[hot zephyr]

Axe, CS, Dueling, etc

[fierce sinew]

maybe I just really like it

[dull haven]

You don't like the Force swords single target?

@hot zephyr

[fierce sinew]

the push cut interaction with peril block and our stamina regen timer is a laugh and a half

[hot zephyr]

See I would argue that for me Chainsword works best with purg, because the activate gives me that force-sword anti-elite ability that I feel the purge kinda lacks a little bit

[dull haven]

Having a Force Sword with +9% block cost has been pretty nice

[crude talon]

That 9% block reduction is based

And the charge attack is satisfying

[hot zephyr]

You gotta do soooooo much to make it cut through poxwalkers on damn in one hit per target. +10% weakspot, +25% infested dmg, +5-15% damage based on peril, have at least 2 warp charges.... then FINALLY do heavy attack to the head will 1 shot a damnation poxwalker.

It's activate is great

But it makes hordes an exercise in fustration

[supple skiff]

FS with slaughter handles that issue nicely

[hot zephyr]

I've literally seen slaughter on a force sword once, and it was at melk with absolute dog water base stats

[supple skiff]

That’s unfortunate, it’s a game changer on the force sword

[hot zephyr]

Yeah, I'd love to have one, I just don't

I've been lucky in other weapons, have like 6-7 fantastic guns, 356 base stats deflector FS, 380 surge and a 367 purg

But no slaughterer for me 😦

[safe pendant]

Maybe Big E will bless you with one

[willow hazel]

Really? The 10% chance to quell 10% peril on kill keeps my Purgatus quell free most of the time.

[hot zephyr]

I'm not saying that's mandatory or anything, I'm just saying if you are having to solo-burn multiple hordes from multiple directions you can hit peril cap pretty quickly

[wet belfry]

I havent really experinced this personally to much

and ive been running purgatus for awhile

this might just be an issue with your staff

[cloud heron]

if anything I feel like a secondary flamethrower gets in the way

especially if it's an actual flamer and not a second purge staff

[hot zephyr]

Well, I also get lazy and complacent sometimes and just fully charge RMB

[willow hazel]

Yup. You lose a lot of quelling if you are not getting the kills

[hot zephyr]

Yeah, like in general purg is fine if you manage your peril well

[cloud heron]

Flamer zealot i really hate to see on my team if I have a purge staff. I feel like they outcompete the purge staff but also eat up team ammo to do it

and they usually prefer to outcompete you, even though psyker has less ability to pivot

[wet belfry]

The flamer is really ammo efficent anyways

Flamer is one of those weapons i belive will get a nerf.

Its way to good at what it does

[cloud heron]

it's ammo efficient when you're shooting into hordes

[wet belfry]

It outcompetes the purgatus by alot.

[cloud heron]

some of them never learn how to melee and rely on it for everything

[dull haven]

Ive had a few games where they would only use their flamer on shit I was using my purg on

[supple skiff]

Super frustrating

The green circles are there in spirit I guess

[shadow onyx]

the probleme is you need to not having a flamer in your team to do the full potential of purgatus
because the more your kill, the more you will have chance to proc both quell and 10% warp charge on soulburn kill

• zealot can easily keep horde at bay with only melee

[supple skiff]

Folks looking to dogpile on the same task and not address what needs addressing is a huge pug problem

Worse than the tagging drought imo

[shadow onyx]

i'm not complaining having a flamer i find it pretty cool with me as purg

but just explaining that purgatus design

[dull haven]

keybinds > tag > M1

Problem solved

[west stream]

Sharpshooters shooting only at specs I'm braining be like

It's like the BB effect calls to them

[supple skiff]

Been doing that since the first week

[cloud heron]

tbh i catch myself doing this a lot as a veteran. The BB is just such a good highlight

[crude talon]

Ew.

[supple skiff]

Most folks I play with though do not

[wet belfry]

they should just make brainburst tbh highlight enemys

[crude talon]

People in melee fucking tagging the same rager 98 times makes me want to Curt Kobain myself

[wet belfry]

We need the psyker lightbulb class.

[placid stratus]

Am I part of the cool psykers gang now?

[cloud heron]

I would love to have "people tagging too much" as a problem in my life

[cloud heron]

Gotta solo a monstrosity with BB before you're allowed in

[placid stratus]

Cheese a daemonhost, got it

[safe pendant]

Where's pick n mix?

[placid stratus]

Haven't dared to do heresy on psyker yet

Need to do a bit of upgrading

[safe pendant]

Upgrade that brainburst

[placid stratus]

I almost screamed out of relief when I saw those pop-ups on the side of my screen

[safe pendant]

It's such a euphoric feeling ain't it?

[gilded viper]

I know it’s iconic, but especially with pugs I prefer boltgun or Mk12 las on my zealot. Especially with the rise in popularity of purge

Zealot’s top melees except dagger, are all great horde clear

[safe pendant]

As a psyker, I agree

[shadow onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-mood-hamster-sad-emotional-gif-20645758

[safe pendant]

I'm so sorry

[placid stratus]

My condolences, sibling

[gilded viper]

Pick n mix is all in the map. The Chasm Station assassination has a big open area at the start with a bunch of elites. I kept reloading that map until I got 5 gunners to spawn.

[shadow onyx]

i did my pck n mix in cathedral map

[gilded viper]

Course more people playing Heresy and Damnation now in my experience

[shadow onyx]

after the bridge

[placid stratus]

I got GOWAB on the Throneside Espionage

In the data-interrogator room

Whenever the power goes out, a group of either gunners or shotgunners spawns at the entrance to the room

[long wharf]

has anyone tested to see if the knife blessing that has a chance to kill "human" targets works when you switch to ranged?

[shadow onyx]

yeah at the right corner from the elevator

[long wharf]

the code shows clear_child_stacks_proc_events including proc_events.on_wield

[halcyon briar]

is there a cap on how much stamina you can stack on different weapons?

[gaunt stone]

HNGGGGGG

[long wharf]

are you doing wide sweeps with that sword?

I thought the moveset was largely vertical

[gaunt stone]

do I buy the sword

[long wharf]

it's a 380

hard to turn that down, just the same

[gaunt stone]

it makes me cry

[tired estuary]

the 1st two lights are diagonal and good enough to proc rampage quickly

[ornate hamlet]

I would get it. Never hurts to have all melee weps on hand.

[rough egret]

What are the ideal force sword perks if it has deflector blessing?

[shadow onyx]

block cost reduction

t4

[long wharf]

casual flex

[maiden wolf]

dewit

[rough egret]

Wow 12% deflector

[maiden wolf]

I remember someone brought up that higher stamina improves your peril generation with kinetic deflection. I wonder if +stamina wouldn't be more effective than 20% block efficiency

[rough egret]

My force currently has this, which should I reroll to block?

[summer prairie]

crit damage, though if your max stamina is under 5, +1 stamina is better

[shadow onyx]

( not mine

but dat rolls

[covert ermine]

yes you are

[long wharf]

yep, good rolls

[shadow onyx]

meanwhile my only deflector sword

[split oxide]

Getting used to Purg.
Still getting killed.
Might be a Skill Issue.

[rough egret]

Interesting ok I’ll roll off crit damage for stamina

[split oxide]

If I use kineticDeflect with Deflector:
I build Peril for Quelling right?

[maiden wolf]

Remember that your M1 burst has really high stagger, and you can spin wildly with your secondary attack to stagger lots of enemies a little bit.

[maiden wolf]

Yeah

[stray pond]

My Wounds curio is done, pretty happy with it but it's not as nice as my HP curio

Hadron has been gentle with my Psyker's curios

[shadow onyx]

you dont play force sword?

[stray pond]

Is that to me?

[shadow onyx]

y

or kineticdeflection

[stray pond]

I've been running a Crucian Roulette/Force Sword combo for a while now

Unfortunately I've yet to get a FS better than this one.

[safe pendant]

loving the revive speed on that curio

[stray pond]

I mean I have one that's better purely based on base stats but the blessings it got were sorta painful

[maiden wolf]

Blazing spirit is badass.

[stray pond]

It makes a surprisingly large difference, I was pleasantly happy when I saw

[safe pendant]

I plan to get 3 curios with it on my ogryn at least

[stray pond]

This is my next curio to make transcendant, but it's a little more sad than my first two

[safe pendant]

It has potential

[stray pond]

And yes I like corruption resistance

I'll never beat the first curio I made gold on Psyker though

Just too good

Now then, my best FS when it comes to base stats is this, but the blessings are just sorta... Not there y'know?

[shadow onyx]

i was asking because you didnt put block cost reduction

my curios

[stray pond]

I value max health over that little extra bit of block efficiency

I respect the toughness choice for curios too

[shadow onyx]

imo block cost spam was a game changer to me, be able to litteraly clutch while block/spam push

[stray pond]

If I had an actually decent Deflector sword I'd put more weight on block efficiency but uh

My best Deflector is T2 and 326 base stats

[shadow onyx]

same

t1 deflector

[stray pond]

And it's not good stat distribution either

[shadow onyx]

320

same

[stray pond]

I still have to get the plasteel to roll these to blue

[shadow onyx]

dont forget next update is probably this weekend or next week

[stray pond]

Force Swords just never roll good base stats for me

[safe pendant]

If they ever roll at all

All I get are guns

[stray pond]

True enough

[shadow onyx]

so true

all autoguns

or some surges

[stray pond]

The very first FS I found is my best FS in general lmao

[shadow onyx]

no purge

true

level 29

😂

[stray pond]

I didn't find a single FS until I was 30

And it was this one

I want to reroll Exorcist so badly

If I could get a Deflector/Blazing Spirit sword it'd never come off

And I've got this sitting around for if blessing extraction ever happens

[shadow onyx]

why keeping blazing spirit

is it really worth?

[stray pond]

I love Blazing Spirit, it's fun

[safe pendant]

It's unique at least

[fierce sinew]

it's cute

[shadow onyx]

i mean FS does already huge damage while crit

[stray pond]

I run a Crucian Roulette build just cause setting shit on fire with a sword is great

[maiden wolf]

:0 I didn't inow Blazing spirit had a tier 4 variant

[fierce sinew]

it gives you extra AB procs on things

[shadow onyx]

fair

[fierce sinew]

I don't think it's good enough to take up a blessing slot, but it's neat synergy

[shadow onyx]

if you crit and let SB kill

[fierce sinew]

soulblaze doesn't have to kill

[shadow onyx]

i m not very found of conditional stuff

[fierce sinew]

AB procs on things that die of anything while on fire

[stray pond]

It's slightly better horde clear than a FS without it

[fierce sinew]

(soulblaze fire)

[stray pond]

I don't even use Ascendant Blaze, that's the funny part

[dry tide]

does soulblaze do the same damage to everything or is it reduced by armor?

[fierce sinew]

there are armor multipliers, somebody calced them the other day if you search

[shadow onyx]

but what if you crit hs and os the guy? does it still apply SB before death and count too?

[fierce sinew]

I don't think so but I'm not sure

[stray pond]

Not sure

[shadow onyx]

btw

sb on crit apply on bulwark or only bleed does?

[stray pond]

I run such a basic Psyker set-up

It applies to Bulwarks

[shadow onyx]

nice

[stray pond]

This is what I run with, just the most basic of basic selections

[shadow onyx]

i run this

[maiden wolf]

321112 for purge for me. I've considered 322112 or 321122.but they haven't stuck

[stray pond]

If FS counted as warp attacks I'd probably run 2 in the first slot

But then that'd be too powerful of a sustain

[shadow onyx]

pretty sure SB count

[stray pond]

Hm, it might

That'd be worth testing at least

[shadow onyx]

i gain some bump buff to my shield

• AB feat

shooter killer

[stray pond]

I wish the shop would at least have 1 guaranteed weapon of each type

[noble mason]

why do people run quell for toughness? especially with purge

[stray pond]

It's a preference thing I think

[noble mason]

ah gotcha

[viral solstice]

thats so cool

[noble mason]

i noticed my survivability became way better with essence harvest

[viral solstice]

i love the idea of critting a swing on a pack and they all are burny

[stray pond]

It'd be cool if it wasn't the only good FS I have

[maiden wolf]

Wait, does purge staff count as warp attacks? Does it trigger toughness regen?

[stray pond]

I dunno, I'd assume it does

[noble mason]

i dont think so

[stray pond]

I can't very well test it in the meatgrinder since you're always stuck at full health in it

[long wharf]

All staff attacks should count as warp attacks

[olive ember]

Yes but I don’t think the dot (most of damage) counts

The direct damage does but I don’t think dot does

[noble mason]

is psykinetics wrath ever worth taking to make break points with fs?

[olive ember]

They shouldn’t kek quell for toughness is literally any staff besides purge

[olive ember]

Lol no

[noble mason]

i didnt think so

ive never ran it

[olive ember]

Not to my knowledge unless someone wants to bring up a spreadsheet or wte

[stray pond]

Yeah you don't hit any breakpoints with Psykinetic's Wrath, I just like it

[olive ember]

It’s a useless trait

[stray pond]

I wouldn't say useless, it's just bad

[olive ember]

The entire column is trash besides the peril resistance

[stray pond]

It has uses, they're just not very good uses

[olive ember]

It might as well be useless

[stray pond]

Wrack and Ruin is the useless one

[noble mason]

my set up. i think its the best with purge staff.

[olive ember]

If it takes me 3 FS specials regardless then I might as well not be running jt imo

For purge staff?

Swap out KF for literally anything else

[noble mason]

i only run purge

[olive ember]

KF is for warp upkeep, redundant on purge

[fierce sinew]

the real question is why do so many people run kinetic flayer

[olive ember]

Run either warp battery or wte the other one is

[fierce sinew]

it's terrible

[stray pond]

It's convenient

[fierce sinew]

they need to just remove the cooldown entirely

[noble mason]

ill give it a shot

[olive ember]

It’s for warp charge upkeep, good on stuff like surge or voidstrike

[shadow onyx]

sad the free bb is on the same line that 6th warp charge because you can os every shooter with AB

even in damnation

[stray pond]

The cooldown on kinetic flayer is definitely stupid though

[olive ember]

No one actually cares about the BB it’s basically just “oh I get a free stack refresh every 15 seconds”

[stray pond]

^

The BB sometimes triggers on an elite too, which is nice

[fierce sinew]

procing it on cooldown is still less damage added than either of the other two options, and it's random

[stray pond]

But it's mostly the free stack refresh

[shadow onyx]

free bb is also instant dog kill

[noble mason]

kinetic overload or warp battery?

[olive ember]

The other two are useless if you aren’t running purge so KF is just QoL and go to

[fierce sinew]

6 charge AB shouts are worth on every weapon

imo

[olive ember]

Warp battery is for guarantee burn to death on trash mobs when you press F, overload for more elite damage

Nope if you running AB + battery on surge you throwing

You don’t get 6 charges often or quickly enough to utilize it imo

[cerulean juniper]

got my first 380 on the Pysker yay

[olive ember]

Lmao lasgun mk 12

Big oof

[noble mason]

dope learn something new everyday

[fierce sinew]

erasing shooters from a fight is more valuable than qol upkeep training wheels to me

[noble mason]

ill try the other 2 talents

[stray pond]

I relate to this a painful degree

[shadow onyx]

yeah but the AB proc wp on sb kill so its very nice on purgatus

[fierce sinew]

it's obviously better on purg yeah

[olive ember]

If you are the one erasing shooters then either you don’t have a vet or someone isn’t doing their job

[shadow onyx]

but yeah just the fact that 2 more wp charge mean more peril resist is very nice

• damage

[noble mason]

i dont usually have peril problems with purge

[stray pond]

There's a lot of Vets who seem to think their job is melee horde clear just because the power sword exists

[fierce sinew]

the extra peril resist is also very good

[cerulean juniper]

I logged in and bought it anyway for when I need something to cry about :x

[stray pond]

As you do

[digital narwhal]

Worth?

[olive ember]

Also KB makes BB actually useable and lets you maintain charges through the F

[shadow onyx]

more bb , more deflection, more special fs

[olive ember]

Decimator is E otherwise looks p good honestly

[stray pond]

It's fine, not great, but fine

[olive ember]

On purge I would run AB + 6 stacks

[fierce sinew]

I don't know offhand if decimator lets you do the kinds of nonsense shred etc does, but I'd buy it just in case

[shadow onyx]

if its your first axe yes

[noble mason]

no problems with 50% block or special fs. i can give it a shot tho

[olive ember]

Not good on psyker cuz apparently it resets on attack chain

[digital narwhal]

It is, so I'll grab it

[noble mason]

do you get 1 more brain burst before quelling?

[olive ember]

And since psyker should always push attack it’s close to useless

[olive ember]

You use BB?

kek

[noble mason]

depends if i have a vet or not

[fierce sinew]

no, I mean stacking up, switching to your staff and having the blessing stay active

[stray pond]

...I use BB a lot

[fierce sinew]

like extra purg crit from shred

[olive ember]

Well depends on how chaining works

[noble mason]

duoing damnation or heresy i use BB often

[olive ember]

I would think swapping weapons would break the chain tho

[noble mason]

just depends on my comp

[olive ember]

It really does, tho I play with two vets so

Probably why XD

[shadow onyx]

technicaly spamming purgatus secondary is a chain, so if it works like crucian...

[fierce sinew]

I don't know about this specific one though

[noble mason]

thats the dream. no bb needed

[fierce sinew]

this is the one I meant to reply to

we know already that some "chain" blessings can be held more or less indefinitely on weapon swap

[olive ember]

Meh I run a deflector slaughterer FS so I wouldn’t know

[noble mason]

swapping weapons with shred doesnt break the chain. i use it on my vet with deadly accurate. 35% crit with 42.5% weak spot damage

[olive ember]

Also anyone else feel like half these builds gonna get screwed if they fix the perks carrying over

[fierce sinew]

do you know if decimator works the same way?

for what it's worth I don't think fatshark has the time or competence to rework the blessings

[noble mason]

i dont. never tested it

i do know that decimator stacks drop off if u block push/miss an attack/ or get staggered

same with shred

[olive ember]

Oh yeah when you think the next update gonna come out

Kek any guesses

[fierce sinew]

power is an attractive bonus to stack too because that boosts BB as well

I think

[noble mason]

thats why i want a slaughter and deflector fs

ya it does

[olive ember]

Does power boost BB?

[noble mason]

ya

go test it

[fierce sinew]

weapon swapping your blessings around is the true meta frontier

[near wyvern]

Decimator won't stick

[olive ember]

The one and only pygex is here

[near wyvern]

Executor and shred are the ones that stick

[fierce sinew]

unfortunate

[noble mason]

u can 1 shot dogs with max slaughter stacks i think with BB

[olive ember]

By the time you build up those slaughterer stacks you might as well run up and just hit the dog

[noble mason]

ya thats true

[olive ember]

The stab on the FS light combo (3rd part) does about as much as a heavy which I always thought was funny

[near wyvern]

Slaughterer is good. The only thing is that it lasts for so short duration that it is really only for your melee weapon

[olive ember]

It makes the FS actually usable against hordes

[near wyvern]

Yeah it's just a tiny bit less

[noble mason]

whats the 2nd blessing that u want on ur fs then

[olive ember]

Deflector

[noble mason]

well ya

i meant besides slaughter

[tepid void]

MK V dueling sword ftw due to double movement mods. Dodge backwards to have room to charge staff, repeat, gg

[olive ember]

Some people say it’s a crutch but honestly why wouldn’t you use it if you have the option

[near wyvern]

I am looking for Bloodthirsty Blazing Spirit. Although Bloodthirsty Slaughter would be just miles better but I wanna test a melee soulblaze meme

[fierce sinew]

soulblaze memes are fun

[noble mason]

would it be better then just not having deflector?

[olive ember]

Having the ranged block with deflector makes those revives funny

[fierce sinew]

anything is better than deflector right up until you're getting shot

[olive ember]

Move aside ogryns I get your perk, but I’m also invulnerable

[noble mason]

deflector bis for running at shooters and making them pull out melee weapons

[tepid void]

MK V dueling for dodging up to shooters to force them melee, or dodge in range for staff cast as flame + shock has aoe stagger effects

[near wyvern]

Deflector is super good for reviving. Outside of that it's a noob trap. You achieve absolutely nothing for cosplaying a jedi in the middle of the fight. Even taking some cover and starting to BB spam is better for your team.

Plus you have unlimited dodges with FS and people don't realize how effective that can be for avoiding ranged WHILE swinging your weapon.

[olive ember]

Well yes but think about this

What if you have Garbo teammates

And you have to block for them

(True story)

[fierce sinew]

let them die and pick them up after you kill whatever downed them

[noble mason]

i found having one improves my survivability when in clutch situations though

also i can carry assassintion bosses on damnation with it

[olive ember]

I run a surge staff kek

It’s also good for achievement hunting

Like helping a psyker with pick n mix

[near wyvern]

Yes it does. It all really depends on your loadout what you want to bring. Using Deflector to block that ninja shotgunner is fine. Using Deflector to stand in front of ranged for a minute or two is bad.

[fierce sinew]

surge is definitely BiS achievement farm tool

[noble mason]

ya thats why its good imo. u can block and dodge to get in cover no problem.

[olive ember]

I mean it’s also useful just to take less damage, like holding block while dodging back into cover against shooters

Sure it’s only 3 seconds but considering the damn things take half your toughness in one shot

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[noble mason]

i solo and go get mats and shit and that sword has helped way more then i thought it would

i dont think id ever not run deflector

[olive ember]

QoL/consistency/safety net I suppose

[maiden wolf]

If you're coordinated you could potentially function as a mini shield Ogryn, but most of the time you aren't doing much.

[olive ember]

I mean I basically think of deflector FS like this: it’s social security lmao

Shouldn’t rely on it but

It’s not a crutch to have it
And you certainly should use it when needed

[noble mason]

i dont think ive ever blocked for my team with deflector.

[olive ember]

I’ve done it once I think because ogryn got trapped so I blocked for him and someone else picked em up 🤔

[slow karma]

Leveling sucks

that is all

[olive ember]

I think psyker has it the worst

[stray pond]

God this FS is so bad but I want to upgrade it so badly

[olive ember]

Ogryns used to (I think in closed beta you had to get to like 15 to get a ripper gun) but they give you grenade gauntlets fairly early now so you only need to get to lvl like 4 or 6 or wte

[stray pond]

Mmmm T4 Blazing Spirit is bugged.

8 stacks of Soul Blaze from a T4 Blazing Spirit does the same damage as 4 stacks from a T3 Blazing Spirit

Hah, I just went to go submit a bug report or check for an existing bug report on Blazing Spirit and the forums are well

Ain't that lovely

[violet mesa]

Bugs are a private matter it's impolite to discuss them

[solar loom]

I really wish you could upgrade a weapon's bar stats. I have so many weapons that would be amazing if you could.

[summer prairie]

I saw a similar bug report about the t4 infernus blessing

[lethal folio]

You get +1 stack for it being a crit. so t3 having max 10 stacks is equivalent to two applications of t4.

[sick solar]

For the Modifiers/stats, what are the prefered stat order (on the voidstrike)?

Would it be Blast R > Damge > Quell > Warp > & then Charge?

[safe pendant]

I don't often fully charge the voidstrike so I guess that would be the dump stat for me

[lethal folio]

Warp resist and quell are forgettable if you have Transfer Peril.

[sick solar]

So I'm guessing Blast R > Damage > Charge > Warp > & then Quell?

(Blast R being the stat you'd what the highest, and Quell the lowest)

[lethal folio]

Something like that.

[runic gate]

Took a long break from my Psyker, what are you all running for Curious these days? %HP or Toughness?

[idle bay]

x2 Health and 1 wound, or 3 stamina for some FS shitfuckery

[runic gate]

Cool, same, I currently run 2 %hp and 1 wound

[idle bay]

And to think of it Wound curio is mostly echo of early game, when you do a lot of mistakes. The more i play the more i find wound curio is doing nothing for me. So i will replace it to +3 Stamina when they fix them ((currently give only +1)

[broken quail]

Huh, just noticed my sword has uncanny strike 5% rending per stack despite blessing lists saying it's 6-20% rending per stack on uncanny strike. Little odd

[idle bay]

There are maybe outdated information on those lists

[glacial pasture]

So lads. What’s a good build if I want to set everything on fire and keep it on fire?

[gilded viper]

Ascendant Blaze is the only soulfire talent worth a damn, use it with purge staff, everything else is whatever you like.

[wheat quartz]

Purgatus, fire is the Emperor's Mercy
Shred+Warp Nexus so your fire stacks faster
AB to burn things further away than Purgatus

[blissful kestrel]

I run wound/toughness/hp but switch toughness to stamina if running a deflector force sword.

[ornate hamlet]

i prefer kinetic barrage even with purg, it's handy for quickly eliminating some shotgunners or other ranged enemies that are out of purg range, it's good for monstrousities too

[broken quail]

Do crits increase the stacks? Didn't know that

[ornate hamlet]

doubles them yes

crit is very helpful for purg, but keep in mind that pug is trash dps on certain enemies

[gilded viper]

Like only crushers, everything else can die fairly quickly

If speed is of the upmost importance just use force sword charged heavy

[broken quail]

Cool, least I don't need to find a new one since I got a good 4% warp nexus

[ornate hamlet]

it seems crappy on monstrousities too

[gilded viper]

The dot stacks infinitely

I often find myself drawing aggro tho, so my damage can swing wildly to bosses

Burgles are annoying

[glacial pasture]

Im looking more burn for crowd control, then having my brain bust and primary for elites

[gilded viper]

The 2 most important stats on Purge is Burn and Cloud Radius

[broken quail]

The burn stat lists a "max damage over time stacks" though

[ornate hamlet]

lol

[fierce sinew]

15 stacks on a max roll burn stat, you can go over with KO and AB

I think 31 is the hard cap

[ornate hamlet]

it's crap on pretty much everything compared to just meleeing dude, purg is good because it's great for hordes, dealing with a lot of enemies at once, and it interrupts/knockbacks most specialists and elites - not quite as strong of CC as surge, but still CC most things
but ultimately, it's DPS is garbo compared to just using a good melee wep like Axe

whenever you can afford to melee, it's a higher DPS option than using staves

[wheat quartz]

if there's not enough density to make it worth burning them just kill them with melee, it's usually faster

[ornate hamlet]

right

[gilded viper]

I like how I directly mentioned crushers in particular, you are aware boss health is Unyielding right?

[ornate hamlet]

i swap between purg staff and axe very often
using the staff to CC as i approach, followed up with axe to finish them off

[ornate hamlet]

good melee weps still far outdps staves

[blissful kestrel]

Staves in general have terrible single target dps.

[glacial pasture]

So axes are best for melee? Or you think force sword would be good?

[wheat quartz]

Depends on what you have

[ornate hamlet]

it's true for every ogryn enemy, you can 2 or 3 shot them even in highest difficulty with a good axe, it takes WAAAAY longer to kill with staves

[gilded viper]

I prefer force sword fore deflector

[fierce sinew]

to be fair so far there are zero single target staves

[ornate hamlet]

force sword is ok if you're charging it up, it's crap otherwise

(use the special)

[gilded viper]

Cleave is a little low but even uncharged Force Sword is fine

Otherwise I'd say the Mk5 Axe or Mk 5 Dueling Sword

[ornate hamlet]

if you're not charging force sword you should be using a different melee wep

[supple skiff]

single target dps is rough, I try to be bait any time theres a boss that isn't the captain lol

[glacial pasture]

Right now my build has a demonclaw, recon laz gun, but I like the burn just from how satisfying it is.

[wheat quartz]

I personally like mark 5 dueling sword because of the crazy movement distance from dodgesliding on it

[supple skiff]

FS is good if you can grab one with slaughterer

[wheat quartz]

I'd swap it for slaughterer/deflector force sword but I don't have one

[fierce sinew]

once you have a feel for how long it actually takes to build max stacks it's pretty easy to apply them, switch to axe and repeat

for monstrosities

[shadow wigeon]

I find Deflector FS, MK5 Caxe, and MK5 Dueling to all be at different things.

[wheat quartz]

Because slaughterer power boost will buff the damage of all the soulblaze I just applied

[gilded viper]

Force Sword heavies and pushes are good if you need stuff off of you, don't use the charge with multiple enemies getting hit will interrupt you

[fierce sinew]

it's the people flaming when there's nothing getting added who waste everyone's time

[shadow wigeon]

ABSORBING bullets and turning them into toughness does make you feel like a boss, although it's very defensive and slow.

[glacial pasture]

Yeah I noticed the damage when when charged adds a lot. Almost like a brain burst

[ornate hamlet]

you can see the exact damage on various enemies in meat grinder training room

[wheat quartz]

just careful it doesn't animation lock you in inconvenient places

[shadow wigeon]

She ain't perfect but still very fun

[fierce sinew]

with blessings etc you can one shot t5 mutants

[gilded viper]

Yah don't "always" charge your force sword, only a moron would be so careless.

Especially with the fragility of psykinetic

[ornate hamlet]

axe beats charged force sword by quite a bit DPS wise, and it has good penetration so it's effective on enemies like crushers, and you can use it while your peril cools off without causing more peril

[shadow wigeon]

and better cleave

[lucid terrace]

Dueling sword #1

[ornate hamlet]

true, and the block push on axe is fine since they nerfed the range on the block push of force sword anyway

it's block push is pretty much just as useful

it's just not technically 360 degrees

so you need to watch your back

[floral solstice]

what do you need to 1 shot t5 mutants, does this involve max warp charges? None of my force swords can do this atm

[shadow wigeon]

block push is not even 180 degrees

[fierce sinew]

max charges and your pick of any of the relevant blessing bonuses

[ornate hamlet]

if you hit with an axe and kinetic flayer proc's, it'll 1 shot em

[fierce sinew]

slaughterer etc

[wheat quartz]

I can do it with T3 Executor and 6 warp charges on a mid sword (65 damage, 70 first target)

[ornate hamlet]

otherwise, it's 2 axe swings

[floral solstice]

welp then I'm still sticking with my caxe, i hate warp charges with a passion

[wheat quartz]

A good sword (80s) and slaughterer will have a way easier time

[ornate hamlet]

with mutants, it highly depends on the difficulty you're running actually

unlike some other enemies, they're significantly tankier in higher difficulties

[wheat quartz]

Oh I was assuming damnation meat grinder mutant as a target

[ornate hamlet]

mutants are weak as hell on other difficulties, way less health and damage dealt when they hit people

[floral solstice]

My current caxe kills t5 muties slightly faster than all force swords I have, thought it was possible to 1 shot muties with fs without warp charges

[shadow wigeon]

4 warp charges = 12% more damage (sustained for 25 seconds)
5 stack slaugter = 62% more damage...

[clear heath]

god i hate it when you hit a mutant with fs special and the camera freaks out

[fierce sinew]

all the enemies get tankier at about the same rate as difficulty goes up relative to their health pool, mutants just have a big health pool

[spice veldt]

with a good roll, psykinetic's wrath, and/or +maniac, an FS should be able to one-shot muties on T5 (but only on headshots)

[ornate hamlet]

nah

i don't think it's the same modifiers on each enemy

i think each is tailored specifically

tweaked for "balance"

[floral solstice]

at least force sword special isn't as janky as zealot eviscerator, you can't even land the shred with revved heavy on gunners unless you aim for the feet

[spice veldt]

off the top of my head, flamers and muties take increased melee damage

dogs as well

[clear heath]

for me it's actually their knees

feet do not work

[ornate hamlet]

burning dogs to death with purg staff takes forever compared to using melee on em

[floral solstice]

I didnt mean literally feet.

[ornate hamlet]

mutants take ok damage from purg staff, melee still better tho

[spice veldt]

lmao do feet have lower bodymass

[floral solstice]

Lower than waist, yes.

[crude talon]

You can deal with muties very reliably by stunning them with surge staff and then charge heavy from FS

[fierce sinew]

poxwalkers and mutants heresy health is exactly 75% of damnation health

[crude talon]

BUT they have to get close enough to you

For the combo to work well

[fierce sinew]

groaners same

bruisers same

[ornate hamlet]

i always throw purg flames out at them as they approach since the travel time on purg staff is a little slow, which means i can throw some fire out, and still have enough time to swap to melee to get a hit on em as they charge

(as i sidestep)

(right in their face)

[crude talon]

Yea, that works too

[fierce sinew]

stalkers same

I'll just scroll the rest of the way down the table actually they might all be exactly the same

[crude talon]

If you don’t have good dodge tho that mutie is gonna fuck you

[ornate hamlet]

it's always good to try to bait mutant to charge a wall behind you also, obviously

the problem is, you can't tell who they're going to charge

they often go for some random guy in the back lol

[spice veldt]

and if you pick a closet to back up against, you might get put inside

[ornate hamlet]

better than getting thrown down and taking massive fall damage tho, which can happen in some areas

[spice veldt]

true

getting thrown into bomber flames

[ornate hamlet]

getting thrown like 3 levels down sucks real bad lol

[fierce sinew]

yeah, the health is modified at the same rate for all enemies as difficulty goes up

[ornate hamlet]

take massive damage and have to find a way back up to your allies

[crude talon]

I got thrown off a ledge once

It was not cool

[fierce sinew]

multiplicative increase just gets means bigger absolute jump on fatties

[shy warren]

what does charging the surge staff do? It doesnt really seem to effect anything noticeably for me

[ornate hamlet]

more damage

[crude talon]

More damage

Jinx you owe me a coke

[shy warren]

doesnt feel like it then lol, seems I do just as much spamming it then waiting for full charge

[ornate hamlet]

Purg>Surge>Void>Trauma

[crude talon]

It’s just straight up better to spam it

Or half charge it

[ornate hamlet]

i agree

surg is all about the CC, focus on keeping elites CC'd for your group, and always stick with your allies

[crude talon]

You’re trading damage for CC

YEA

beat me to it

[floral solstice]

well on paper spam casting is the way to go, your job id to cc elites anyway. but on practice? every now and then it's okay to full charge for more damage if the enemy is not an immediate threat/you're safely in cover

[ornate hamlet]

if you're alone with surge you're going to have a tough time once you cap peril and F isn't ready

[shadow wigeon]

If you have a clear moment, go for a full charge to finish a fight, but otherwise it's not worth it

Or a a lot of armor

[crude talon]

If you have a surge staff, it’s range around you is basically a safe zone against bursters, hounds, and muties.

[ornate hamlet]

best tactic when using surg is to pick a zealot or ogryn and stick to them like glue, constantly CCing things for them

[crude talon]

It stops bursters from exploding altogether too

AND if a mutie grabs your friend you can shock it to prevent it from slamming/throwing

[floral solstice]

surge staff can pop bursters with one zap if you time it right, they blow up on their own when they get up

[ornate hamlet]

correct

and that is the best way to use it on them too

[crude talon]

I recommend not the force sword when you have surge tho

You will die to horde otherwise

[floral solstice]

^

i was using claw mk 4 with surge for a long time until i found a decent caxe 5

[west stream]

dueling blade is always fun

[crude talon]

Chain sword, dueling saber, axe, even the devil claw. All work. Pick your poison

[west stream]

but whatever works

[long wharf]

mk v combat axe is best IMO

[crude talon]

Dueling saber is super fun

[ornate hamlet]

it is, i only use MK II because i haven't found a better MK V yet

MK II is nearly as good

[crude talon]

I like axes but I’m a cuck for class specific weapons

[long wharf]

the psyker's class-specific melee weapon just isn't good for hordes

[west stream]

Dueling saber and revolver when they add gun-psyker

[long wharf]

and you get animation locked on special attack

[west stream]

believe it

[fierce sinew]

meme axe is class specific-adjacent, we have unique synergy

[crude talon]

Psyker has dueling sword and force sword

[long wharf]

oh right, I forgot about dueling meme

[crude talon]

The one I have has rampage and I proc it with push shove attack

It’s ok. MK5 does more heavy damage than the other two

Plus it’s a down swing so hitting heads

[rose lily]

nft nutting

[crude talon]

I have that but as a purge staff

[floral solstice]

Looks good

[shadow wigeon]

spam vs full charge surge, t5 mauler:
spam: 200dps (with crits), 100% peril when he was dead
full charge: 260 dps 63% peril when he was dead
he had some noticeable uptime while I charge up each shot though

That's not nothing difference

[floral solstice]

Better than any of my 2nd bless run n gun crap

[rose lily]

nice

[crude talon]

The spam utility is to CC more than just a few people really.

[supple skiff]

lol https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/10geg48/no_update_this_week_catfish_confirms/

[cloud heron]

personally i'm shocked

[floral solstice]

can't they at least give new stuff on the cosmetic shop lol, it was already leaked anyway

[supple skiff]

well we got the update on the update on the patch at least

c'mon bro, just another week bro, crafting will be released in december bro, pls bro

[floral solstice]

"seems like its on track for next week"

[supple skiff]

if today was ever feasible for this news, then say monday, or early next week. Instead its next week in nondifinitive terms. They know damn well today wasn't going to happen well before an hour ago lol

[shadow wigeon]

So who's hanging on to all their materials and had stopped upgrading and rerolling anything?

and when did the faith leave you

[floral solstice]

well im still crafting every now and then coping for perfect blessings, as long as i keep a good amount of materials left

until they announce exactly how the missing features of crafting will work/how much it will cost, i don't really feel like hording all of them for now

[stray pond]

Y'all think this meme of a staff is worth making gold?

I'll be practically bathing in the warp with it but hey

[long wharf]

yeah you will

[ornate hamlet]

not really

damnation

[stray pond]

In that case how about my non-meme Purge staff

[long wharf]

you already know the answer to that

[stray pond]

I don't actually

I'm going to assume no however

[ornate hamlet]

this one is better

when you make it gold i bet you get run n gun

[stray pond]

Yeah I sorta figured. I snagged the first one from Melk to extract the T4 Warp Flurry once that's eventually possible

Don't say that I already have Run 'n' Gun on all of my Surge staves

[ornate hamlet]

the issue is, making weps gold often doesn't even really improve them, especially staves, we get run n gun all the damn time and it's basically useless

[stray pond]

Oh here's another great one, rate this Voidstrike the Emperor gave me

I just can't get over this damn thing

[cloud heron]

This looks great to me

[stray pond]

Only reason why I'm keeping this Voidstrike is purely as a reminder that Emperor's Gifts are trolls

Or really bad curios

[floral solstice]

if you're not extremely low on mats then why not, go consecrate that good purg

[stray pond]

I'm always low on mats sadly

[floral solstice]

who knows, might get focused or at least terrifyng

[stray pond]

I've been working on getting my curios to gold primarily

So far? Great curios. Legendary even.

It's a shame my weapons don't share the same luck.

[floral solstice]

i'd work on the curios first then, that purg looks good enough to use anyway

[stray pond]

Oh it's my go-to purg for when I want to use it

This was another reminder that Emperor's Gifts were trolls

[safe pendant]

The Emperor partakes in a little tomfoolery from time to time

[stray pond]

A smidgen

[placid stratus]

Allow me to further add to this comedy of pain

[cloud heron]

it's like, you have a collection of guns

[stray pond]

For some reason I was expecting a T4 Run 'n' Gun, just somehow

[cloud heron]

and some nobody wants honored or whatever

do you give him your best gun?

no, you give him the thing that barely even made it into the collection

[placid stratus]

Speaking of

[stray pond]

Psyker has gotten both my worst Emperor's Gifts, and my best Emperor's Gift

[placid stratus]

My luck with psyker drops is nonexistent

[stray pond]

Sadly he's a Run 'n' Gun connoisseur

[placid stratus]

I used up all of my luck on veteran

[stray pond]

Big E blessed me with this Surge but of course it's Run 'n' Gun

I do have another good base Surge but I haven't gotten around to crafting it

So at some point this baby is gonna have Run 'n' Gun

None of my crafting on Psyker is as heart wrenching as the 380 Revolver I got on my Zealot though

Statistically speaking you could hope to get at least 1 good aspect of a weapon, be it one good perk or one good blessing

That poor revolver got shafted

It could've been beautiful

[shadow wigeon]

run and gun is amazing, you get to play the suicidal confetti cannon 100m ahead of your team

It's still fun on malice....

[rough egret]

What does it do for staves? You can sprint and shoot the charged right click?

[shadow wigeon]

only LMB 😐

[rough egret]

Oh

[shadow wigeon]

Purg does have stagger, so it does do SOMETHING, but it's mostly just for fun

[stray pond]

Melk brought an interesting gun, except unfortunately I'm a Psyker

[cloud heron]

I'm always getting good guns on my psyker

meanwhile, my veteran starves

[stray pond]

If only we had a shared inventory

[wheat quartz]

my psyker has better luck than my zealot

[stray pond]

Veterans would be able to feast on all the Psyker guns

[safe pendant]

Sad day for Melk. Nothing on all 4 classes broke 450+

How'd this dude scam his way onto the ship?

[stray pond]

He bribed the right people with the right weapons

He bribed my Zealot with this for example https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1065422363472166922/image.png

I haven't been able to hate him ever since

[forest coral]

have a similar mkv axe on my psyker. I would absolutely love that axe on my zealot but nah, psyker is the boi with all the blessings

[stray pond]

Psyker has my best curios across my characters, blessed by Hadron

[wheat quartz]

Melk gave my Zealot a wonderful heavy sword

[cloud heron]

corruption resistance?

[wheat quartz]

He seems to hate my psyker, all my good stuff on psyker has come from the beloved Emperor

[stray pond]

Yeah, corruption resistance is great what about it

[stray pond]

Oof that finesse is sad to see

[lone fractal]

yikes

[stray pond]

If Finesse and Mobility were swapped that'd be a yoink imo

Even if Riposte is a joke of a blessing at best

Anyways I'd recommend at least one instance of corruption resistance for everyone on at least one curio, it really helps

[cloud heron]

what are you getting corrupted by?

[fluid sun]

Anyone seen a "Bloodthirsty" blessing on a force sword yet? As in an actual spawn on their weapon as opposed to the reddit image floating around

[stray pond]

Playing the game mostly. But it has a big effect on the various sources of corruption like poxbursters when the Veteran decides to shoot them as someone goes to push, or when they fall completely flat instead of getting knocked away, or dogs, there's also some other small sources. It helps with Grimoires too.

[forest coral]

or when someone goes a little too trigger happy and hits the daemonhost

[stray pond]

I may be slightly spiteful towards most Veteran players

And yeah that too actually

I've encountered 3 Psykers with malicious intent who BB the Daemonhost twice to trigger it

I'm still not sure why

[forest coral]

even if party is cracked, the residual corruption decay can cuck a run afterwards

[teal kite]

darkness in them

[cloud heron]

i dunno, it's not like i've never taken a poxburster to the face but it's not usually what i attribute much of my problems to

[stray pond]

For me, because I always make sure to have corruption resistance, I never have corruption problems. The people I play with in pubs however? Jesus christ.

Played a Hi-Intensity malice earlier that just kept spawning dogs and poxbursters at every possible moment that had Grimoires. People wanted the grims. I was barely missing any health to corruption while most of the team had like 50 HP left.

[teal kite]

I be on T4 and people be wanting to get both grims, lmao

[stray pond]

Yep

Yep

[teal kite]

when its clear your team lacks cohesion, imo you need to get rid of the grims

[stray pond]

It's usually fine to have ONE grimoire with a bad team so long as there's at least one good player

But both causes a death spiral

[teal kite]

we be all low HP, fully corrupted with no med packs

"lets keep teh grims"

wipes

[placid stratus]

"yall suck"

It be like that, sadly

[teal kite]

my main issue is when the team is struggling why keep the grims?

[safe pendant]

I still say gg but

it was not gg

[placid stratus]

I wouldn't

Personally, I mean

[long wharf]

because the whole point is the grims

[teal kite]

this one vet, went down 4 times in the first 2 battles and wanted grims

[floral solstice]

if every random player had your mindset pubs would be a better experience

[cloud heron]

i think you'll find you need corruption resistance less as you move up the difficulties. Like every once in a while you'll have a dog on you for longer than you want but I usually knock them off my teammates is under 3 seconds and can expect my team (of pubs) to do the same

[teal kite]

like bruh you're lucky you're alive

[placid stratus]

On the topic of luck, and off-topic of skill

I done did it, guys

One left to do

[teal kite]

as they say

luck is the best skill

[safe pendant]

Congrats

[stray pond]

Belatedly what is the large metal collar from? The thing that makes your Psyker look like their head is in half of an empty can.

[placid stratus]

Now comes the hard part

[stray pond]

Lemme guess, Malleus Monstronum?

[placid stratus]

Yup

[stray pond]

The hard part is being bothered to find a team

I can relate

[teal kite]

the latest cosmetic has that and one other type

[magic burrow]

iirc its a bomb collar

[safe pendant]

I get off work in half an hour. I'd be happy to be the shieldgryn for ya

[placid stratus]

I would consider that a close, personal favor

[stray pond]

No that's the normal prisoner collar for psykers

[placid stratus]

I get malleus monstronum done, all I'll need to do is just play the game lol

[safe pendant]

which is pretty hard tbh

[teal kite]

a bomb for psyker if anything does them good. Better to blow up than have a demon take over

[safe pendant]

some days

[placid stratus]

I mean, yeah

With the mission select rng and all that

And then, once I'm done getting all the psyker penances, it'll be time for me to do zealot

And once that's done, I'm doing ogryn

[teal kite]

my ogryn just reached lvl 21, 9 more levels till all are maxed

[placid stratus]

Leaving big man for last because I really don't like playing ogryn

That, and his penances make me weep

[teal kite]

It was a hard sell for me, its started ranged weapon is GODAWFUL

[placid stratus]

I actually really like the kickback, surprisingly

[cloud heron]

I didnt like ogryn at first either but ogryn is really good

[teal kite]

Ogryn a bit fun now

Zealot is serial killer khornate berserker mode

the axe basically swings itself

[placid stratus]

Zealot's penances seem simple enough

JAFW is the only one that's a bit of an ouchie

I remember when the req for that one was 10 minutes

Good times

[clear heath]

At 20 minutes it's fine now

[cloud heron]

when it was 10 minutes you didnt actualy have to win the mission

[teal kite]

which one?

[clear heath]

just a flesh wound

[stray pond]

Thank you I have purchased specifically the metal collar

[placid stratus]

Just a Flesh Wound, the one where you gotta beat a heresy mission with one wound's worth of health for 75% of the time

[teal kite]

its pretty cool, my fav

[stray pond]

The best part about it?

We get to keep our hair.

[teal kite]

ooo I havent done that one yet, I never have a beast enough team

[stray pond]

Half the other Psyker shit makes our hair VANISH

[cloud heron]

Well you definitely need a team trying for it specifically so that people don't get caught up looting

[floral solstice]

i cheesed that one back in beta lol

[clear heath]

If you manage to find a low intensity mission for one of the shorter missions, that's a good chance to go for flesh wound penance

[wheat quartz]

I almost got it on a random assassinate

Then a pug dropped a medpack in an elevator

[teal kite]

I will try

[teal kite]

[placid stratus]

That is

Actually tragic

[teal kite]

90% sure that was your face

[wheat quartz]

Yes :(

[teal kite]

just feel dead inside

he was trying to help

and instead, killed you

[safe pendant]

I'm both upset and proud I didn't cheese any of the penances but it has cost me years off my life to suffer them

[teal kite]

I never have a team so I cant ever cheese anything

[placid stratus]

The only one that I cheesed out of all of them was make every shot count for vet

[clear heath]

I got mine in low intens enclavum baross
No elevators where everyone needs to group up. Just go get the bridge down and run to the end

[stray pond]

I need to find a team for Malleus Monstronum

These are my last three Psykinetic penances

[forest coral]

basically the most painful ones

[stray pond]

I dunno if there's a Lifeleech (5) actually

[safe pendant]

There is

[stray pond]

Oh lovely

[placid stratus]

Yes

[safe pendant]

I think it's 250 missions

[placid stratus]

There is

Correct

[stray pond]

Does it give anything

[safe pendant]

No

[placid stratus]

Nope

[stray pond]

Fuckin' what's the god damn point then?

[placid stratus]

I wear that badge proudly on my veteran

[safe pendant]

More penance points

[teal kite]

dat +5 whatever lmao!

[forest coral]

good boi sticker

[stray pond]

Bah

[teal kite]

wait you're asking whats the POINT of service to the Emperor?!

[stray pond]

I play Loner Psyker

So uh, yes

[teal kite]

Sounds like the interrogator shot the wrong person!

[stray pond]

Loner Psyker calls big E a carrion lord as it is

[forest coral]

loner psyker best psyker

[placid stratus]

All psyker personalities are great, imo

[wheat quartz]

I'm really surprised nobody on the =][= shoots Loner, he's actually a no joke heretic

[safe pendant]

Team Savant

[stray pond]

I like the one that has a fragment of the Emperor attached to their soul

[placid stratus]

Personal favs are fem savant and male loner

Seer?

[wheat quartz]

Beloved psyker is batshit insane, I picked him, he's great

[teal kite]

Psykers are never lone, commissary bolt pistol always nearby

[stray pond]

He's not a heretic, he very much despises the chaos faction much more than he despises the imperium. He does however seem to consider the Big E a chaos god. I'm pretty sure the 5 Rusting Spires are alluding to the 4 chaos gods and Big E after all.

[forest coral]

Imperial diligence at its finest

[stray pond]

He's also not particularly keen on Daemons or anything of the sort

...He just... Happens to know way too much about the Imperium. He knows things he really shouldn't know.

[wheat quartz]

Interesting, I remember the corpse emperor line from when I see Loner in multiple psyker parties because it's memorable lol

[stray pond]

Yep

[wheat quartz]

Seer (Beloved) also knows a lot of stuff he shouldn't be able to know

Like the Imperial Truth, that's pretty heretical nowadays

[stray pond]

The Beloved Psykers have a literal fragment of the Emperor attached to their souls

[forest coral]

Loner telling the zealot their high gothic is fake af and that the emperor never wanted to be a god

[stray pond]

So yeah the Beloved Psykers know some shit

[forest coral]

lore wise they should have been gutted on the spot there lmao

[stray pond]

Okay but the Loner isn't wrong either, that's part of what I mean when I say they know way too much

[forest coral]

ye

[stray pond]

That's not easy to obtain information

Very very few people should know about that, but the Loner Psyker does?

There's something weird about that man/woman

...Though making fun of the Zealot's high gothic is great

[forest coral]

Loner psyker definitely has that main protag energy for a story somewhere

[wheat quartz]

Also implies the Loner knows High Gothic, which he has to have gotten somewhere.

[forest coral]

or at least significant character energy

[stray pond]

Loner is also best friends with Melk

Melk invites them out to drink after missions

[clear heath]

after seeing the shops he gives me, i doubt that

[wheat quartz]

But does he cough up actually decent weapons?

[stray pond]

Absolutely not

[wheat quartz]

Hahaha

[stray pond]

The best thing he's given me are two purple weapons with T4 blessings that I yoinked for extraction

[long wharf]

they go to the bar, and Melk offers to serve them random drinks

[forest coral]

Melk treats my Loner psyker respectfully whilst to Judge zealot he's like, "I'm surprised trash like you is still alive"

[clear heath]

oh that reminds me, melk shop just reset today

fuck

[long wharf]

45 minutes ago, yeah

[stray pond]

Go check the bargain bin Json

[safe pendant]

Melk has no right to call me trash when he sells trash

[long wharf]

don't worry, it's the same quality of disappointment you get every day

[stray pond]

If you're lucky he'll have a Crucian Roulette gun

[clear heath]

it's just guns

[supple skiff]

he is an accurate representation of the administratum

takes forever to change anything and its never good

[clear heath]

a bunch of mediocre XII lasguns on my psyker

thank you melk very cool

[long wharf]

well, that's all my zealot weeklies

[supple skiff]

stock piling milkman tokens against my will cause there's nothing to buy

[stray pond]

Ah that's a penance I still need to do

[long wharf]

now I need to finish up my psyker weeklies

[long wharf]

call them "milkies"

[stray pond]

I need to collect a party of 4 Zealots with Thammers and go into an Uprising mission

Find a Daemonhost and just fuckin' bully them

[long wharf]

or a bunch of vets with boltguns

[stray pond]

Yeah but Zealots with Thammers is more fun

[safe pendant]

Knowing me, I'd miss with a boltgun

[long wharf]

what blessings make the TH so good now?

[safe pendant]

and my vet owns no boltguns

[long wharf]

I remember people saying it's crap

[stray pond]

I never said good

Just fun

[supple skiff]

did t-hammers ever get that buff?

[clear heath]

no lol

[long wharf]

not yet

[supple skiff]

ffs

[clear heath]

people cope thammer being good now after they found out you can animation cancel thammer by pressing 1

[long wharf]

but what are people doing to get those big hits on TH?

[clear heath]

which does make it a lot better

[runic gate]

1 or 2 (Charge Rate or Quell Speed)

[stray pond]

2 is better because Warp Nexus

[clear heath]

did anyone's discord just stop working for the past 5 minutes?

[ashen schooner]

yea

[safe pendant]

Not that I noticed

[placid stratus]

I didn't notice anything, either

[long wharf]

I didn't notice

was in a mission, though, so likely not helpful

[ornate hamlet]

Why in half cases I feel ashamed of other psykers

[long wharf]

it's definitely delaying sending messages right now

[placid stratus]

How come?

[long wharf]

because most randos suck

and not just by skill, but by how they don't pay attention to what's going on

[safe pendant]

I've observed some of them play when I die and their reactions are sometimes slow

and they whiff melee attacks making me think they play with a controller or something

[wheat quartz]

Could also be macroing light attack spam and not turning it off on time

[gilded cloud]

My old staff is very old. Wanted to update it. I am only level 17 rn but which is better? They cost the same

[keen belfry]

why....

[long wharf]

hah, because Hadron hates everybody

[safe pendant]

We have so much in common

[cloud heron]

anyone else getting this error when trying to check the shop in browser?

[manic needle]

Bottom one, about the same damage, better charge rate

[gilded cloud]

just refresh

[safe pendant]

@placid stratus I'm off work now if you want to see if we can get a group together for malleous

[placid stratus]

Based

[gilded cloud]

even though less blast radius and quell?

[fresh halo]

Any good, siblings ?

[manic needle]

Blast Radius doesnt matter much, it does next to no damage. The only potential benefit is stagger and it shouldnt make much of a difference even then

[placid stratus]

I know Lunar Impact was also seeking aid for monstronum

[gilded cloud]

ok, ty

[wheat quartz]

IIRC the splash damage is low two digits

[gilded cloud]

hah

[manic needle]

About 12-45, with most hits being closer to 12

[safe pendant]

cool with me. I'll head into a vc

[manic needle]

On an 80% damage staff

[austere estuary]

oh, steam maintenance I guess atm?

[manic needle]

Might be, its up for me right now

[austere estuary]

hmm

getting failed to sign in on shop page thinger, I'll try opening the game

[safe pendant]

@stray pond you wanna join in for the malleous monstronum penace?

[floral solstice]

seems to be working for me on pc, not on mobile

[austere estuary]

weird

[floral solstice]

oh wait now it's not working on pc too kek

[austere estuary]

man haymaker seems ultra rare to see

across entire playtime so far seen t1 of it twice and that's it

[wheat quartz]

It is pretty rare, I've seen it at Melk a couple times but not from peddler

[stray pond]

Getting it completed? Who would we be helpin'?

[safe pendant]

You also needed it right? I'm helping Addiction get it done

[stray pond]

Yeah I need it too, I could join in

[safe pendant]

Nice, we're in a strike team now, would need one more in that case

[stray pond]

Gotta full kill either a Burgle, Host, or plogryn. The 90% is pretty much a lie, gotta do 100% to be safe.

[long wharf]

"burgle" tickles me

"plogryn" does no.

[viral solstice]

ive got a tier 4 haymaker on an ogryn club

which feels a bit pointless

[ornate hamlet]

Why in half cases I feel ashamed of other psykers

[ornate hamlet]

I mean I saw dude pop some random guys head insted of bomber 3 times

In a row

[gilded cloud]

Maybe the random dudes kept getting in the way?

[austere estuary]

plogryn makes it sound so cute

[cloud heron]

Any luck with this? I still can't sign in on either PC or mobile but can log into the actual game

[long wharf]

plaugryn

[ornate hamlet]

Most likely

Similiar case with the guardsman’s

Just imagine how fucking sick I am that I am required to play as aggressively as zealot

[foggy whale]

worth grabbing? https://i.imgur.com/hRK7h6k.png

[cyan notch]

not bad honestly

pretty good even

[elfin crystal]

guys, should i replace flak damage for crit chance?

[long wharf]

ugh, I just did a mission using purge, and it still doesn't feel good to me to use

things just don't die fast enough with it

[foggy whale]

become the xii lazgun psyker you were always meant to be

[elfin crystal]

try it with terrifying barrage

[long wharf]

I have terrifying barrage on my good purge staff

[elfin crystal]

mmm are you using mind flayer?

[long wharf]

Kinetic Flayer? of course not

[elfin crystal]

euh kinetic flayer

yeah my bad

it helps if you're still having trouble i find

easy early trigger to suppress a full wave right when it gets in your face

[long wharf]

the problem is enemies don't seem to stagger the same as when they're burning

[lethal lagoon]

I could never use a purg without 80% cloud radius

[elfin crystal]

from experience it seems to be better at ccing stuff with that, but hey it's experience. doesn't mean i'm right

[lethal lagoon]

In case you didn't know, special stagger is affected by warp charges

[elfin crystal]

i didn't know, but in all fairness, do you really need that much more stagger against specials? your left click pretty much always stagger them anyway

[lethal lagoon]

I meant the F ability has more stagger depending on warp charges, that's why it sometimes doesn't work on dogs.

[long wharf]

I'm sitting on this right now

[elfin crystal]

wait i thought that was base on peril?

ohwell

nice staff

[lethal lagoon]

Such a nice staff ruined by 70% cloud radius.

[long wharf]

it's what I've got

[elfin crystal]

yeah you do with what you get