psyker-class

[crude talon]

if you have a surplus of melk coins, you could get it.

[supple skiff]

but if your running a force sword thats going to hurt

[crude talon]

damage and radius almost maxed and 74% charge rate? might not be so bad

[noble mason]

ill pick it up i got 8k coins

fk it

[supple skiff]

I don't think you'll regret it honestly

[wheat kraken]

It'll be fun to play around with at the very least

[noble mason]

didnt turn out to bad

id prefer the charge one though 😦

[supple skiff]

charge one is bugged rn

[noble mason]

oh fr?

[supple skiff]

warp nexus is better until its fixed

yeah, its weird. instead of doing it on each chain its on some kind of hidden timer

[noble mason]

bugged on all staffs then?

[supple skiff]

so, to get the full reduction you can't chain a bunch of full charge attacks in a row, but rather you have to spam the rmb at no change, then on your fourth you'll get the full reduction but only on a single cast

that I don't know, but def is on void

I have it and quell on mine and you can make it work by staggering a horde with a couple low shots then hitting a full blast, but its a meh payoff

[stuck bridge]

siblings i wish our abilities prioritized elites

trying to lightning a shotgunner while he's shooting through a crowd at me is really fun

[gilded cloud]

Does it Inherebtly decrease peril on headshots? Or is it a blessing?

[stray pond]

I need to reroll the max health to 5% but uh, here we have my second relatively pog curio

[supple skiff]

its the blessing. stompt's has the transfer peril blessing.

best blessing for void hands down. You can spam charged bolts at horde without running up your peril

only real negative is that its quell effect doesn't seem to be working with the quietude feat at present. cause only half of the interactions that should work actually do lol

[long wharf]

yes it does

[supple skiff]

guess I'll have to test it for myself then, getting conflicting answers.

at this point when someone says something doesn't work as intended I take it at face value

[ornate hamlet]

What should I look for on a voidstrike staff?

[supple skiff]

as close to max on stats, consensus is blast radius is the dump stat

[manic needle]

I think mine is still in pinned messages if you want to see a decent one

[supple skiff]

transfer peril as one blessing. second either warp nexus or warp flurry

[manic needle]

Check bottom post there

[supple skiff]

fuck thats a nice staff

[ornate hamlet]

Would you say the peril refund on weakspot hit is required?

[manic needle]

Basically BiS

[supple skiff]

not required

but its really good

staff is usable without it

[manic needle]

Void is also one of the only staffs where Warp Flurry actually works as intended

Although Surge might still be better if you can get it

[ornate hamlet]

this is what I can get

[manic needle]

Looks pretty good

TB is mid but better than something like Run 'n' gun

[supple skiff]

pretty solid, might consider rerolling the sprint perk depending on your resource situation

but I wouldn't dump too much into it with that blessing

[covert ermine]

is brain burst counting as headshot?

[manic needle]

Might as well, still possible to get something like Transfer Peril or Surge, and you can transfer off one bad blessing whenever FS gets off their ass and patches that in

[manic needle]

Always weak spot hit yeah

[covert ermine]

so its possible to achieve 20 headshots penance with bb?

[ornate hamlet]

I think I'll hold off since my limited time acquisition currency is low from being very busy irl and getting a bunch of complete 25 missions quests.

Thank you all for your help.

[manic needle]

No idea tbh

[floral solstice]

yeah it is

[covert ermine]

oh lol ok

[long wharf]

yes, I did it that way

[remote void]

i felt that

[manic needle]

My old surge staff has T4 Warp Flurry and it makes me sad

But at least I can save that for later

On the plus side blessings on Surge dont matter much, there's only one that does anything significant

[remote void]

warp nexus right, i wish i had that on this so close to perfection

[viral solstice]

i got warp flurry on mine

i imagine it works

and imagination is 90% of play

[manic needle]

If you think about it being a Psyker is basically about making your imagination a reality

🤔

[remote void]

and then blowing up cause u imagined too much

[fresh reef]

update on my gun psyker journey

I found some actually good players in damnation, and felt utterly useless

back to absolutely decimating hordes with AB I go

[pale basalt]

hey man if emperor didn't want us to be gunpsykers he'd stop giving us badass rifles

I play damnation a lot your setup may need help

[cyan notch]

whats your setup

[pale basalt]

MkII duel, columnus Mk V and these feats

II is kinda negotiable sometimes i do communion on III

the rifle procs flayer super fast and the sword does okay on hordes, stack charges and sneeze blaze on em

communion is a little more sustain from warp charges coming in

[long wharf]

the rifle doesn't proc flayer "super fast"

it simply procs it

you aren't getting around the 15 second delay

[pale basalt]

no shit

but when you need to pop a muty RIGHT NOW, it works

way more useful than a recon lasgun

just have to feather the trigger, its got spicy recoil

[long wharf]

you mean your gun kills the muty, with the free BB helping

[pale basalt]

of course

[long wharf]

because that's all BB does in damnation, helps

[pale basalt]

I get it, your a snooty cunt. I don't really care.

[long wharf]

I get it, you think a psyker with a gun is the bees knees, regardless of how much slack your team is picking up

[maiden wolf]

I'll take "things that fuck" for 500 Alex

[maiden wolf]

Look for transfer peril, its a great perk for voidstrike.

[remote void]

i have a question about the force sword special does it scale with first target, damage modifiers and perks?

[maiden wolf]

Give it a go in the Psykanium. AFAIK it does scale with whether you do a heavy or light attack.

[cloud heron]

just finished a damnation game with 3 purge staves and a veteran

went surprisingly well

[cyan notch]

yes for all

[remote void]

tks

[long wharf]

a good veteran can make any team do surprisingly well

[fierce sinew]

I think psyker and veteran are the two classes I don't mind seeing in multiples

[long wharf]

yeah

[valid marsh]

Worth?

[austere estuary]

hrrrrm

[austere estuary]

this looks pretty great to me

[valid marsh]

Yeah I looked at the damage number stats and wow

10% is basically nothing

[austere estuary]

ehhh

base damage does mean just the start, you really need to go into psykarium and see where things land after multipliers

[lethal folio]

Excellent blessings and perks

[wheat quartz]

I like that one

I have one like it, it does good work

[cloud herald]

do you actually rate efficiency lol

[lethal folio]

Buddy's sword.

[cloud herald]

oooooooooh I'm stupid

[cloud herald]

jesus yeah that thing is insane

[valid marsh]

it does pretty well in the psykanium yeah

[austere estuary]

just messing around with this on revolver

actually seems to have no time limit, really nice

and no "gotta do it quickly" req either like with executor

ohhhh

and

it does work on melee weapons

and

even if you hit a non-weakspot with melee, it doesn't drop

[long wharf]

how sure are you about the "no time limit"?

[lethal folio]

Certain.

[austere estuary]

456 headshot on a reaper +executor t3 +trickshooter stacks +6 warp charges -> 742 headshot on reaper

pretty nice

not practical in this case but stacked power and damage bonuses really are good

you could get a revolver with crucian + trickshooter too, in theory

[cyan notch]

so what drops it then

[austere estuary]

if you get the gun out and shoot a non weakspot

then it drops

if you shoot a weakspot it'll continue

[cyan notch]

oh nvm i thought you said hit non weakspot with revolver it doesnt drop

[austere estuary]

click heads and profit, basically

jesus

[cyan notch]

if only revolver was good

[cloud herald]

cursed_image

[cyan notch]

they should just give it 100 in reserve

and 3 tap specials (not mutant)

[austere estuary]

so tox flamers, ragers easy one shots with these

dogs survive with a little bit

148 shy of one shot on them

crusher easy two shot

reaper painfully shy of 2 shot

166 hp left

[rigid blade]

Is 58 mobility bad on a duel sword?

[naive dawn]

I've not tested it, but I know mark 1-4 have stated 10% less dodge rating then mk 5.

[austere estuary]

okay this is kind of neat

[rigid blade]

Forgot they had marks

[austere estuary]

if you use executor + trickshooter + 6 stacks, your BB is so strong that it becomes pretty viable with enough elite/specialist targets to only ever cast fast BBs

[naive dawn]

I believe Mk5 is best overall for DS, best lmb combo and highest dodge rating I believe.

[austere estuary]

basically just do 5 fast BBs after ult, quell to 50% and ult again

[wheat quartz]

which difficulty?

[austere estuary]

damnation

[wheat quartz]

that should be a nice +50% power which probably pulls a lot of things into 1-pop or 2-pop range

how many to kill crusher?

[austere estuary]

2

with over 100 overshoot

this is with t3 of executor and trickshooter

could gain another 10% if t4 on those, then could also have unstable power on FS for another 5%

that might even put dog at 1 shot

[wheat quartz]

could use slaughterer

[austere estuary]

at which point you'd probably play it like

FS when horde

[wheat quartz]

just have the sword out

if BB kills give you a stack while the sword is out

[austere estuary]

if unstable isn't needed or doesn't pull dog to 1 shot

[wheat quartz]

and you swap back

[austere estuary]

then slaughterer would be good

[wheat quartz]

hmm no it won't work the kill event will always happen while BB is equipped

yeah disregard

[austere estuary]

then you'd FS for hordes, and then spend most of the rest of the time BBing any elite or specialist that dares to exist

FS good at that point just as something that can have slaughterer and executor

only other bet would be a dagger with executor and brutal momentum for horde

[wheat quartz]

dagger can't get bm

[austere estuary]

It can't? Darn, was told it could

[wheat quartz]

as a zealot, I wish it could, lol

[wet flax]

I plan to change the left staff's damage to flak armor to 5% crit chance. Which one will be the better staff overall?

[austere estuary]

in that case yeah I'd say FS for a BB heavy style

[austere estuary]

both are kinda lacking on the blessings and burn

if I had to choose, hmm

also unarmored not really that useful for purg as you'll melt those targets so fast anyway

[wet flax]

ah ok which is a good perk for it?

and whats a good percentage for the burn modifier

[austere estuary]

crit chance and flak spring to mind

burn you want 76+

that at least unlocks max stacks, and in general burn contributes a silly amount of damage

[wet flax]

ah cool cool

[austere estuary]

ideally you want to get a melee weapon with shred paired with it for that

[wheat quartz]

crit ticks double-apply the dot, thus the advice to use warp nexus

[austere estuary]

and hopefully get a decent warp nexus blessing on the staff too

[wheat quartz]

like this, it works pretty well

[wet flax]

can't wait for the rebless deal to come out

[austere estuary]

same

[fierce sinew]

shred melee + warp nexus purg is the truth

[wet flax]

which is more important, warp resistance or quell speed?

[austere estuary]

quell speed by a mile

warp res is largely meaningless on purg and trauma, most of the time it will literally do nothing

[wet flax]

ah good to know

[austere estuary]

since it affects the amount of peril you gain only on the final click of a cast, and if you're high peril when you cast (which you will be anyway a lot of the time and for warp nexus you actually want to be firing the secondary at 97-99% for the last 2 stacks), you will be 'chopping off' far more than the amount warp res could ever help you with

[wet flax]

makes sense

[cyan notch]

it helps if youre not at max peril

[austere estuary]

e.g. casting at 97% = 3 peril on your secondary cast, purgatus minimum - if you had 100 bar - that it could have you gain is 17.5

I think at 80 bar it's like.. 18 peril

if you had 0 bar it'd be 22.5

my best purgatus has 11 warp res for 21.95 on secondary

an actual charge up and then cast is a lot more, so really it's not actually even letting me cast any more times before hitting the top amount

a full charge and fire with 11 is about 43% peril

[wheat quartz]

also, the innate passive chance you have to quell a little bit when you kill something does a lot of work in sufficiently dense horde

[austere estuary]

so for warp res to do anything at all there?

I'd need to start casting at beneath 57%

actually, less than that

[cyan notch]

i dont think this detailed essay is neccessary

we all understand

[vagrant cedar]

feels like a math lesson

that you'll never use irl

[austere estuary]

I should hope you won't be thinking about your warp res IRL

[wheat quartz]

rofl

[wet flax]

lol

[austere estuary]

thankfully we're talking about game mechanics, where it's actually useful

[cyan notch]

all you gotta do is look at this scale and see that its less than 5% peril min to max

[austere estuary]

I mean you could just tell people "just look at the in game interface" or "just google it" too when they ask questions

I chose to answer and provide a bit of further information

[cyan notch]

sure you answered the guy and he said it made sense already

then u started talking about your roll and what % you need to stop casting etc etc etc

[austere estuary]

oh no, extra information on a topic

what's your actual problem with that?

[cyan notch]

nothing

im just saying i dont think its necessary

[vagrant cedar]

nothing is necessary, the game isn't even out yet

[austere estuary]

and you commenting on it is unnecessary, and playing the game is uneccsary, etc etc

[spice veldt]

life is meaningless

[austere estuary]

so what?

[spice veldt]

might as well just shit in your bed

[cyan notch]

and that information only pertains to your specific roll so its kinda just typing your diary

[wheat quartz]

nah it's useful, shows the guy how it works with an example

[austere estuary]

no, it's an example case

I'd use actually 0 but I can't check that in game

[cyan notch]

cool

[remote void]

cool stuff i have the very opposite to urs

and i agree quell speed i far superior

[austere estuary]

Once we get quell speed 100 is gonna be really nice

[remote void]

yes

[austere estuary]

33% extra

pls

[remote void]

it takes around 4,5 sec to quell at 0 quell speed

so once it is 100 it will take half of that

[austere estuary]

there's some funky stuff with it, I think there are ticks

and I think quell speed makes the ticks bigger not faster, but testing is tricky

[remote void]

u are right it increases in amount the longer u hold to quell

[spice veldt]

that might explain why Quietude seems to regen toughness the way it does

[remote void]

i love Quietude its a constant toughness regen

[spice veldt]

esp with the Trauma staff

on malice and below, I can just stand in the open and blast ranged enemies

[austere estuary]

messing around with different trauma staffs

I think ideal quell speed for them for maximum rate of fire max charge max warp nexus stacks might be about 61-64

maybe depending on charge speed a bit too

and then when they release 100 stat bars that might change thigns

[spice veldt]

yeah i'd probably overclock charge rate or quell speed on trauma

[cyan notch]

it aint coming for years

[spice veldt]

what do you mean with maximum rate of fire
is it to do with how quell speed increases as you hold down the key?

or are you treating quell speed as the dump stat for trauma

[rigid blade]

I await the day we can edit stats and I just make a 0 Damage Purg staff

[wheat quartz]

doesn't damage impact burn dot intensity

[rigid blade]

I thought that was... well burn

[wheat quartz]

actually has that been tested empirically

no that says it affects max stacks and tick apply rate, right?

[cyan notch]

burn controls the dot stuff

damage controls the fire hit damage

[rigid blade]

0 Burn Meta Build

[remote void]

imagine a fire staff that does not burn

[wheat quartz]

no, that's not what the tooltips say, look:

"secondary action burning intensity" ?

[rigid blade]

Reminds me, are mooks super tanky in Damnation or does the DoT just not do that much? Both stats on my Purg are above 70

[cyan notch]

yes thats the flame damage ramp up

[wheat quartz]

no, that's the "Damage over time application rate" under Burn

[remote void]

the lower the faster it apply

[wheat quartz]

what is "Secondary action burning intensity" under Damage?

[cyan notch]

thats soulblaze

theres the fire damage and theres soulblaze dot

[spice veldt]

so application rate is the rate of the soulblaze application, and burning intensity would be the "fire rate" of the direct damage dealt by the secondary?

[cyan notch]

yes

[wheat quartz]

that seems to be it given how the value decreases as the stat increases, which means it's some kind of tick interval

[remote void]

that

[wheat quartz]

but that implies the soulblaze application ticks and the visible purgatus damage ticks are disconnected

and if that's true the longer you hold it down the more desynced the soulblaze applications will be from the visible damage ticks

[spice veldt]

i suppose its to give more granular control over those certain aspects of purg

[cyan notch]

not necessarily

you dont know how the game displays it

[crude talon]

So, anyone else keep seeing revolver toting psykers around? Who’s the YouTuber telling them to do this?

[silver ermine]

For Force Sword, would it be to have Executor or Unstable Power

[remote void]

Unstable Power, executor resets if u hit anywhere but weakspot

[crude talon]

The one I see (carry) all the time, has an axe too

[remote void]

unless there is a bug that allows it to work in other way that i do not know

[ornate hamlet]

Im already not a fan of gun psyker but revolver psyker is probably my least favorite example?

[crude talon]

The 3 I’ve seen were all absolutely useless in 5s

[ornate hamlet]

Like, cool. Playing the glass cannon jack-of-all-trades class. Lets not take any of the fast-firing horde clear weapons or my signature staves which either have a modicum of crowd control at worst and becomes bowling at best

[crude talon]

At least take a recon so you get your BBs every 15s lol.

[ornate hamlet]

I understand running the mk5 combat axe because it is genuinely incredibly good but the revolver's purpose evades me entirely

[restive slate]

I wonder how Psyker with shotgun would fare

[ornate hamlet]

Brainburst is slow and doesnt instakill heavy enemies on higher diffs but at least if you take literally any other ranged option you will still have horde/shooter clearing capability

[remote void]

incendiary shotgun rounds

i dig it

[crude talon]

I like the axe but I’m having fun with the dueling sword

[restive slate]

Brainbursting pellets

[ornate hamlet]

Fires shell
Every single pellet triggers brainburst

[restive slate]

I'm getting a Belovedgasm already

[rocky cedar]

Is soul blaze affected by the perks of your current held weapon?

[remote void]

perks in the staff?

and then switching weapons u say

i dont think it will affect soul blaze

[cyan notch]

some blessings yea but idk about perks

[keen harbor]

omg, leveling psyker is rough

[rough egret]

what perks/blessings are good on an axe?

[keen harbor]

which axe? combat or tactical?

[cyan notch]

brutal momentum always good on axes

[tidal violet]

Combat for armor, tactical for chaff.

[cyan notch]

what the hell happened here

[clear heath]

wtf

[remote void]

he ascended

[clear heath]

bro stop hacking

i actually think someone might have cheated and killed every mob in the game

never seen that happen before tho

[cyan notch]

lmao

the 2 vets in the back there had bolters overlooking the dude who got dogged so its pretty plausible they just blasted away at the other specials but idk how it said i killed the dog

[clear heath]

i think either someone's hacking or it's a bug and all the mobs got deleted by some neutral cause of death (like fall damage) and you got credit for the dog and sniper cause you were the last one who interacted with them

kinda like how if you push an enemy off a ledge, it'll give you credit for the kill because you were the last that staggered them

could just be a bug. I've seen a boss actually just delete itself before

[cyan notch]

the run seemed pretty normal other than this incident

[clear heath]

hmm, there's still a gunner in the corner after it happened, so not everything died

idk, could've just bugged out and the dog just died from nothing

Wouldn't be the first time an enemy just decided to stop existing

i still have no explanation for this one

[cyan notch]

wtf lmao

did the mission end after that

[clear heath]

flamer is just that op bro

yeah we won the mission

everyone was confused

[cyan notch]

ai director just deleted him

[clear heath]

maybe that's what happened to your dog

framed by the director

[shadow onyx]

spawning/unspawning is so clunky in this game

[cyan notch]

probably

[shadow onyx]

they are so autistic about not wanting you to breath and camp i'm 99% sur they put basicaly no reach limit for spawning

[deft valley]

They change the outfits yet?

[shadow onyx]

thats why you have always savage spawning litteraly on you on the desert map just right after the elevator with 2 doors

or in the desert town

https://tenor.com/view/the-lord-of-the-rings-the-fellowship-of-the-ring-the-lord-of-the-rings-lord-of-the-rings-bilbo-baggins-sir-ian-holm-gif-21318324

3 ragers and 2 crushers be like

my main issue tho is the mobs going through you

[stray yacht]

I still need 3 elites to stand still while my mind pops and kills them. Silly heretics keep fighting and moving.

[shadow onyx]

need a premade imo

zealot with you, spamming grenade

[pearl flax]

I've just been wanting to get an axe group together and stagger a horde into one place like sheep dogs

5 BB in 12 seconds sound impossible

[shadow onyx]

it is, with the level 30 feat that accel your bb

ive did every psyker's penances without cheesing, exception for the suicide one

[pearl flax]

unless you get 1-2 lucky rng BB roles and insta switch with that

[shadow onyx]

ive did it in the cathedral map

[pearl flax]

nice

[shadow onyx]

when you finish the first event with charge cells at the bridge, you continue and go down the stairs there was like 6 gunners + many shotgunners

i just spammed bb after ult

( and died on my fifth bb )

but i got it

[stray yacht]

@shadow onyx I'll ask my next group and see if they can support. The others (BB a lot and 90%) I'll just hold off on for a bit

[shadow onyx]

if you dont do it as premade it take some time because many things must happens

you must have enough elites to kill, preferably gunners and shotgunners ( you can os them even in t5 )

and no good vets

which is not hard to get

[wheat quartz]

I almost got it naturally surrounded by 3 shotgunners near the Comms Plex elevator

Someone shot one of them right before I exploded

Ave Imperator

[regal dune]

purgatus staff is able to crit now right? before when people were saying it couldnt was a bug?

in the meat grinder i see yellow numbers occasionally with it. that means a crit right?

i upgraded my damn staff and the blessing i rolled was crit chance rather than casting not getting interrupted and i was pretty sad about it lol

[steel egret]

I dont think it was, its well known that if it crits it applies 2 instead of 1 dot

[regal dune]

ah i would google purgatus staff crit and a bunch of peolpe seemed to think it wasnt capable of critting

[steel egret]

I used purga in beta and little bit after launch and dont recall such.

[regal dune]

hah tell that to all the nerds on reddit!

https://www.google.com/search?q=purgatus+staff+crit&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS940US940&oq=purgatus+staff+crit&aqs=chrome..69i57j0i390l2j69i60l3.6429j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

[clear heath]

a lot of those posts are from the beta

it definitely crits now though

[onyx oracle]

How toxic are Psyker penances? Is the blow yourself up Penance ok to do? Are the other's much easier or harder....

[steel egret]

Uuh well, they are all relatively just luck or pre-made

Malleus monstrum probably one that doesnt occur "natural" unless 1/1000 scenario in which you clutch alone with abomination..?

At minimum you have to ask randos to let you do it

[onyx oracle]

Thanks!

[steel egret]

You dont accidentally deal 90% on abomination with BB

[rough egret]

finally got a decent purgatus, these are the blessings i want right? what about the perks

[onyx oracle]

errr the dmg ......

[rough egret]

i thought damage doesn't matter on purgatus?

[steel egret]

Its purga.

Cloud and Burn are biggest

[rough egret]

this is the first purg that came with more than 60 burn/cloud lol

[steel egret]

Its pretty good.

[rough egret]

do you know what perks i want on it? i know crit chance is one but idk about the other

[keen harbor]

increased crit chance, carapace, flak

[rough egret]

ah ty!

[cyan notch]

definitely not carapace

[sonic coral]

does the dueling sword actually block bullets or what? what's with the deflecting animations on some rounds?

obviously it doesn't block many but it appears to be "while you were doing drugs and partying I was studying the blade"-ing occasionally

[burnt moth]

force sword blocks bullets

lightsaber status

[sonic coral]

with deflector yea, I mean stock dueling sword has them "ping" off the blade

[burnt moth]

never seen it

[wheat quartz]

Normally if you get shot the character does nothing

Block animation wise

The psyker holding a dueling sword will move his sword like he's trying to block bullets

He doesn't actually block bullets, so it's pretty weird

[shadow wigeon]

have noticed this as well...

[sonic coral]

not only does he try, occasionally there will be a spark off of it. I can't imagine there's actually any game benefit or way to utilize it beyond just an occasional "heh yea I'm so cool dude" as your toughness gets melted

But, confirmation either way would be useful. doesn't appear to be anything searchable online

[pliant junco]

pretty sure duelling was potential weapon for deflector

it makes sense since its exclusive to psy

[idle bay]

Siblings, after getting "Hunting grounds modifier" that we love so much, Fatshark will add "Boom Town" modifier with either increased amount of Bombers or CockThirsters Pox Bursters.

[pliant junco]

no they know better what is fun

x4 shotgunners

[still hearth]

They'll put in Lights Out with shotgunners only

[pliant junco]

true

[still hearth]

Hordes all replaced by scab stalkers

[idle bay]

That's the most evil modifier 🙂

I will only move on such mission with Deflector build on constantly blocking

[pliant junco]

spoil : its already the case

[idle bay]

Though most nightmarish mod for maps:
All rank and file enemies replaced with dreg gunners ( in puke-colored robes with autoguns).

[cold mesa]

so what's the actual combos used with the force sword

for hordeclear

[still hearth]

Probably light > light > heavy, repeat?

Or spam lights and wave it around

Apparently the light cleave damage is good but since its a stab you have to wave youe camera around

[cold mesa]

feels like the best combo is light -> heavy -> blockcancel

[still hearth]

Don't you have to do two lights to get the cleave heavy?

[cold mesa]

no?

[still hearth]

I guess it's when you combo. So light > heavy > reset should be good

[cold mesa]

btw does psyker specifically not get mk5 combat axe?

[still hearth]

QQ swap is faster than block cancel

Achlys?

[cold mesa]

antax

[still hearth]

I'm pretty sure they do

[cold mesa]

achlys is mk8

[still hearth]

Zealot chat only calls them by name so idk

[floral solstice]

wdym

[cold mesa]

websites saying they don't, obv i don't trust the website but well

[floral solstice]

we do get antax mk v

[cold mesa]

sweet

[floral solstice]

are you using the gameslantern site

[cold mesa]

darkmass

[floral solstice]

idk that site but if it doesn't show antax mk 5 on psyker then it's definitely not accurate

[idle bay]

Best Combo for Force Sword vs Hoard is to Block + LMB (Hold) to push , and then switch to Purgatus staff and start burning the horde. Then you can switch back to FS

[deft fiber]

Gues Emprah trying to say something to me.

[ornate hamlet]

quite nice

as a lover of axes, i'd use it

[deft fiber]

Yeah, i'm pleased with x5 380 axe on my psyker

Now i need to find money to buy it.

[ornate hamlet]

how can you be out of credits

[deft fiber]

Uh, because i play zealot 24/7

[ornate hamlet]

ah

[deft fiber]

Psyker

Zealot

I wish they make a normal game where you can share resources.

[idle bay]

Sell some junk gear or run 1-2 missions 🙂

[deft fiber]

Yeah, i'm getting short on junk because most items i have are temporary shelter for blessings

[idle bay]

Make a sacrifice 🙂 I mean.. you always get blessing you want from melk trash

[deft fiber]

Nah, seems this weekend would be a psyker weekend

[idle bay]

And i'll dedicate weekend for Vet with Plasmagun 🙂

[deft fiber]

Disgusting.

[cold mesa]

personally i don't like using flamer kinda weapons, plus i was level 3 so yeah purgatus not an option rofl

what toughness regen feat do people use?

[idle bay]

1 - if you use Purgatus builds - you simple shat out warp charges every few secs.
2 - if you lazy like me or using Void or Surge staffs
3 - if you quell a lot

[cold mesa]

i'm level 5 so prolly 3 i guess

spamming headpop/staffs and quelling

[split oxide]

purg + duel or purg + forcesword?
(for solo)

[wheat quartz]

depends if you like deflector/warp stun melee or you like the extra ground speed, the huge dodge range and the passive quell more

[still hearth]

3 - if you play Gun Psyker

[idle bay]

We need Psycannon!

[split oxide]

I know both meta.. but dunno for solo (when your team deserts you and you're surrounded)

[floral solstice]

Quietitude is good with staves that get your peril up fast

[still hearth]

BB giving 90% after two uses

BB + Gun is pretty neat though

[floral solstice]

Wdym solo? Solo queueing pugs? Solo targets?,

[split oxide]

PUGs with no teamwork
hanging up surgestaff

[floral solstice]

Well deflector fs lets you rescue noobs easier

[still hearth]

Does Deflector work against ranged while ressing?

[wheat quartz]

Yes

[floral solstice]

Yeah

[still hearth]

I need Deflector already

How else will I save my noobies

[floral solstice]

Just dont rescue the dummies

I swear i lose more hp trying to rescue people out of position than actually running in between medicae checkpoints

[split oxide]

last 2 days, I've stopped ressing dummies.

[sonic coral]

if you Went Down it is because God Ordained It
enjoy the floor

[still hearth]

God? You mean the God Emperor of Mankind, right??

[viral solstice]

emprah gave me dis yesterday

[sonic coral]

y-yeah... o-ofcourse

[viral solstice]

its my second orange melee on my psyker

thank u emprah

[still hearth]

die Witch.

[still hearth]

[floral solstice]

Wish I recorded that one game i played where 2 vets died at the same time to the same crusher slam attack

[viral solstice]

i got myself up to 65% block efficiency but i still havent actually blocked anything

because the only thing killing me is me

suicide king

managed it 4 times in one mission last n ight

[still hearth]

Blessing name: Riposte
Blessing function: Has nothing to do with Riposting

[viral solstice]

well i mean its like u dodged his thing now u boutta BATTER him

but ya...

its not... gr8

similarly theres precog or whatever

and it says crit and weak spot damage

so u might hope it would double dip on crit weak spots

but it does not

[split oxide]

hold my beer ...

[viral solstice]

and the number is like 3%

[floral solstice]

Just pray for shred

[viral solstice]

shred to buff ur staff crit

chad choice

[still hearth]

I mean I have Shred T4

But it doesn't have Deflector

[split oxide]

It'll come eventually ... faster than yit took to get to 30

[viral solstice]

tbh

i would take shred over deflector

because of how i play

but

i feel u

[still hearth]

Maybe.

[viral solstice]

the only thing i want is double shot on crit void strike

[light quail]

deflector and peril blocking will save your ass from a tight situation

always a nice combo to have for when you get a few too many ranged enemies or that one cheeky shotgunner

[mighty pike]

Must be using it as a synonym for "counter attack"

[still hearth]

Shred + Crucian. Lets go

[floral solstice]

Yeah there are times where you're surrounded by gunners and deflector is handy to help you reposition

[viral solstice]

ive spend the last 2 weeks playing stamina drain ads stamina drain on ranged dodge vet so im kind of in a diff mindset

[floral solstice]

But if there's no horde just slide away

[viral solstice]

but i guess its also im not taking advantage of deflector

because im not actively trying to use it

so i should mess around with it

also its just having infinite dodge on force sword already feels so cheesy lol

[split oxide]

Deflector or duel+kinetic deflect

[floral solstice]

If only i actually liked force sword's moveset

[viral solstice]

force sword has better cleave properties in terms of damage distribution

than mk IX heavy sword sweep heavies and devil claw sweeps

its actually pretty gucci

its just got a hitbox that unless u have a camera seizure

is going to bring sadness

[floral solstice]

Dang that's a nice duel sword, mk 2 though

[viral solstice]

but then again that says more about how bad most attacks cleave distribution is

[wheat quartz]

Of those two I'd take the dueling just because purgatus crit ramp

[floral solstice]

@split oxide which staff are you using?

[still hearth]

Would you guys run Mind in Motion if it made you quell automatically after a short delay, and let you run/do things normally?

[floral solstice]

or which gun

[viral solstice]

i run mind in motion sometimes

[split oxide]

was surge... moving to purg

[wheat quartz]

try shred melee + warp nexus purg

[viral solstice]

but im relatively sure that toughness dr feat is generic toughness dr

tho i havent tested

so its clearly better

[still hearth]

[viral solstice]

if ur not taking the blockin

i am unsure if the buff stat for ranged dr doesnt work

or simply wasnt used when they built the feats

i should check

[floral solstice]

I'd say pick the force sword if you actually like the weapon, but it's definitely not mandatory for purg builds

[split oxide]

so duelling /w purg ?

[viral solstice]

but theres a bunch of feats they clearly prototyped with stats that are "close" - like ogryn melee damage - but do more or diff things

and yeah vet 75% dr...

[wheat quartz]

yeah I do that and it works well

If I had a shred/deflector force sword or a slaughterer/deflector I'd probably use that though

[viral solstice]

u know what mind in motion shuld give u

quell peril on ranged dodge or slide

fuck me that would be sick

omg

[wheat quartz]

that would be sick

[viral solstice]

like have any of u played the stamina drain gain vet build

its obviously not good but it makes the game feel SO FUN

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/PXG13iNiE572z/d1337wP4RSzd?invite=cr-MSxueEksMTU3ODYzOTYwLA

every single time my stamina bar goes up here

[wheat quartz]

but Q pulling out my dueling sword and giving me a dodgeslide that's longer than knife while also quelling makes me usually not take it

[viral solstice]

thats because i iframed a shot

and suddenly it makes u completely change how u approach ranged fights

[wheat quartz]

huh interesting

[viral solstice]

basically im draining stamina to shoot (for better recoil and 25% crit) and gaining stam when i dodge a bullet

is it worth doing no because u lose 75% dr feat which is busted

but its fun af

[split oxide]

But deflector is only lvl1

[wheat quartz]

Definitely use that

Because

Purge dot kill give you slaughterer stacks

The stacks also buff the dot damage

[viral solstice]

also slaughterer is just sick full stop

for ref on force sword h2

this is an HS IX cleave heavy cleave damage falloff

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1053488467205685378/1065225418724094012/image.png

[split oxide]

so ditch kinetic deflect?

[viral solstice]

this is FS H2

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1058297384544768051/1065245043004289095/image.png

its actually really good

[wheat quartz]

Nah take it, that one is a feel thing on whether you like it more than the toughness DR

Also blocking to get peril so your purge staff will have maximum warp nexus is funny

[viral solstice]

in general most weapons have such horrible damage falloff the force sword loses less than u would think which is nice

its just awkward

[wheat quartz]

One thing that's nice is the push is a 360 degree stagger

[split oxide]

I still don't get WarpNexus vs Peril... isn't 90% peril bad?

[wheat quartz]

If you cast at 97 you won't die

And get max crit bonus

Then you only need to get to 97 again to do the next one

[viral solstice]

ur relation to peril depends on feats too

[wheat quartz]

As long as you don't explode, 97 and 0 are the same right? Feel the power of the warp overwhelming you

[viral solstice]

eg for me high peril = u have a toughness bank

take a random hit

quell to regen fast

or the crit staff perk

or the force weapon damage perk

etc

[steel vapor]

Greetings fellow lunatics! Quick question from a zealot trying to play psyker: Does essence harvest only activate upon actually gaining a charge or also on refresh?

[split oxide]

I'm familiar with

• BB < 97%
• Quell = Toughness Regen
  But crit-staff perk and forceweapon perk?

[wheat quartz]

Warp Nexus (high peril more crit) weapon blessing
One of the low level feats gives you up to 15% force weapon damage bonus for high peril

[manic needle]

The timer refreshes. Check here for a full accounting of all of the Psyker's hidden mechanics and talent breakdowns.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2905188402

[wheat quartz]

As long as you don't kill yourself by casting above 97, and have things that make peril useful, being at high peril is better than no peril

[steel vapor]

Thanks!

[wheat quartz]

Also you get to laugh maniacally

[manic needle]

Sure thing, the link is in our pins if you need it again

[split oxide]

I normally don't use purg

[wheat quartz]

Low burn...

[floral solstice]

and radius

oh wait why did i reply that tf

[wheat quartz]

also warp flurry doesn't work on purg

[viral solstice]

oh wait if u bb at 98% u explode?

[wheat quartz]

yah

[viral solstice]

hell yeah

gotta start doing that

add to my repertoire

[floral solstice]

i can't tell if you're memeing lol

[viral solstice]

i was awake too long then could only sleep 4 hours and this has manifested in me just blowing myself up in damnation missions a lot

[wheat quartz]

I actually think it's some value between 97 and 98 rather than being exactly 97 because I could swear I've survived casting at 98 but it's not reliable

[viral solstice]

so im committed to the bit

its probs 97.5 because why not

[floral solstice]

i honestly just bb till 96 just to be safe

sometimes some random vet blows up your bb and if you weren't paying attention you get griefed

[wheat quartz]

Oh also you can save yourself from exploding even after you enter the animation where your arms come up and wave by pressing F

Or if a pox walker burns to death and procs the passive quell

[floral solstice]

just tell your team you're actually doing the penance when you accidentally blow yourself up

totally intended guys

[viral solstice]

oh i know i can save myself i just use my f a lot because i have the fast bb thing and because of quell toughness its also part of my generic peril toughness cycling

the first hi int damnation i ever finished was with a psyker who had never done damnation before and only joined to get that penance

and he just blew himself up like 5 times without explaining

until the end

[wheat quartz]

lol

[floral solstice]

at least some randoms apologize when they blow themselves up

[wheat quartz]

Does a witch committing suicide by blowing themselves up with perils of the warp to kill heretics redeem themselves in the eyes of the beneficent Emperor? 🤔

[floral solstice]

others quit immediately

[idle bay]

When random Psyker blows up in my team - i always say in chat : "It called fun overdose"

[viral solstice]

i just type s omething like "oh no" or "sorry headache"

[idle bay]

"I sneezed too hard" works too

[viral solstice]

"no comment"

[deft fiber]

"I'm Trauma user"

[idle bay]

"I'm Zealot main" - explains EVERYTHING

[steel egret]

"penance"

[ornate hamlet]

loses control and explodes

[viral solstice]

surely "sry usually play vet idk why this is hard"

i guess that makes people upset tho

[split oxide]

underrated comment

switching from atrox5 to FS:
I miss toe-to-toe with horde.
Will have to learn Purg faster.

[wheat quartz]

you have that slaughterer force sword right
Light 1 Heavy 1 block cancel repeat is pretty great

If you also tap push during the block cancel you stagger everything within 3 meters of you, 360 degrees

[ornate hamlet]

yes, but the range of the block push was nerfed hard compared to how it used to be

ever since the nerf, i've just used axe

[wheat quartz]

yeah it used to be 5 meters but cost peril

whiners complaining that block pushing made them die

[vast raptor]

you can finish combo with a light attack, imp. Its just as quick as block-cancel

[strange wigeon]

if you run a weapon with ghost the "invunerable to ranged damage" part counts as a dodge so it triggers duck and dive

[viral solstice]

yep

tho im using a lucius without it but i was dicking around with a ghost laspistol

ive been collecting ghost weapons

to make a l ucius with 1s ghost

and turn invulnerable

[strange wigeon]

that would be sick

I only have experience with ghost laspistol unfortunately, have worst RNG in the Imperium so don't have anything good on vet except a couple of weapons I don't actively hate

[viral solstice]

the other option would be a max hit n run agri inf auto

[split oxide]

anyone tried to Deflect a sniper?

[viral solstice]

but god quell on dodge sounds so sick

i love that

[split oxide]

as useful as "damage stat on purgatus"

[idle bay]

I did - it does not work vs Sniper

[restive slate]

Even with max block blessing?

[split oxide]

I wonder if "Toughness Regen speed"

• works with active Quell
• or just passive only

[restive slate]

Toughness Regen is broken, no?

[split oxide]

oh? I'm stacking 15%, 20% and 15%.
sh t

[restive slate]

Well keep them, when it's fixed it's gonna get stronk

Emphasis on "when"

[split oxide]

I'll keep em but that sounds like a mechanics logic problem (those take a long time to fix)

[mighty pike]

No matter what anyone says about psyker being bad I feel much more useful than when I play zealot

[viral solstice]

psyker is fun

i thonk purg psyker is legit stronk

surge feels a bit ehh

[restive slate]

Surge is as good as the team

Can't wait till they make Trauma the most OP staff

[viral solstice]

thing about surge to me is its like ur often useful

but when theres a lot of density

u feel a bit less useful

and the fact that poxwalkers laugh at ur lightning is just goofy feeling

its like bro im only hitting 6 of u could u at least pretend to take damage

i think i would 100% prefer void staff if i had double shot on crit

but

[crude talon]

I like surge because I play with a zealot and 2 vets and I just stop all the hounds and bursters and muties that try to get us from behind so they can murder most other stuff

[viral solstice]

yeah thats true stopping mutants with it rules

honestly i wish i could get soulblaze on crit on it

because its a crit archetype weapon and the idea of just setting fire to poxwalkers with it feels fun

[crude talon]

Idk if y’all know but surge also stops a burster from blowing up too

[viral solstice]

but then again this is partly my build lacking ascendant blaze

so really u know i made a choice there

but still

the weird thing about surge to me is this

[restive slate]

Firebolt and lightning, very very frightening, me!

[viral solstice]

the crit on it only really boosts damage against unarmoured and infested

so its like... if u have a really good surge staff with crit peril u have a 50% chance of damaging poxwalkers

[restive slate]

Purge has some decent stagger just needs aim

Also Mutants don't care

[crude talon]

I’ve had bursters in my face and stopped them from blowing me up so many times, I love it

[restive slate]

Oh my~

[crude talon]

So I basically use surge as CC and that’s it

[restive slate]

I just want one thing, let each staff have a different primary fire

[crude talon]

Yea that would be nice

[restive slate]

Void is a bolt that pierces but low dmg/stagger
Surge is a slow but accurate lightning bolt
Trauma has high suppression and dmg bolts
Purgatus can stay the same

[ornate hamlet]

nah, surge is way nice compared to other staves against pox burster and mutants

it's pretty good for dogs too

it's just.. the damage is sooooo bad

compared to purg

[restive slate]

So true

But hey there's always trauma to laugh at

[viral solstice]

well also the other thing is

[crude talon]

If the damage was good on it, I think it would be too OP

[viral solstice]

void staff has its high tier uber blessing as a crit focus right

but the crit scaling on the void staff charged shot is awful

but the crit scaling on the void staff LEFT click is... really good

??????

[restive slate]

What blessing is that?

[viral solstice]

different kind of void i guess

double shot on crit

[restive slate]

I haven't got that yet huh

[viral solstice]

ive never seen it

apparently its very rare but i want eet

[restive slate]

I want it now too

My Beloved NEEDS it

[crude talon]

Any of you ever get Rampage on a dueling sword? Does the push shove attack proc it?

Or is it single target too?

I was going to use the dueling sword with the AOE second heavy attack but it’s like the only fucking sword in the game that doesn’t default to the second heavy after a block push attack…

[restive slate]

Don't think I have, just got Force Sword with both Slaughterer and the Ranged Block so mastering it's shitty combos atm

[summer prairie]

Doesn't mkii light heavy work

[crude talon]

I could do that

But I like the MK5

And it’s block push hits multiples but you don’t get an indicator for shit like rampage

And since in damnation I’m always block pushing, I figure it’s good enough if it’s proccing

[summer prairie]

Pretty sure even the lights can hit three, hard to test though

[crude talon]

If only I could see numbers in the actual game instead of only in the practice tool

I also like the mk5 because it’s heavy is stronger than the others. 206 vs 116

And it’s overhead so, splitting skulls with it

[crude talon]

Deflector is cool but taking 9 years to kill six pox walkers in damnation feels so bad with it

[viral solstice]

its not that bad surely

h2 got honestly decent cleave if u have a bit of a seizure while usin it

but yeah its not mk5

with bm

[floral solstice]

@viral solstice kinda late but im sure you know that you dont bring surge to deal big damage with it

[viral solstice]

i mean sure

[floral solstice]

it's very nice to have on coordinated teams

[viral solstice]

i just want to do chain lightning

that kills people irl

rather than make hte poxwalkers do a jig

[floral solstice]

because let's be real here, other classes can deal with hordes

[viral solstice]

[floral solstice]

yeah

i feel you

could definitely be better

[viral solstice]

and in particular its just like, its a crit archetype weapon right

but the main benefit of that crit is that it makes your left click scale hard

[floral solstice]

but right now, surge helps you clear damnation in a safe pace

[viral solstice]

[split oxide]

Switching from Surge to Purg.

• how do you guys deal with hounds/muties?

[floral solstice]

also psykinetic wrath (feat, not ult) doesn't work with surge for some reason

because why not

[viral solstice]

dodge mutants shove hounds normal procedures

real?

the lightning or the lightning and the left click

i assume the left click is still affected

[floral solstice]

you spam lmb for hounds, you slap muties with melee

[viral solstice]

ah ok so left click is still affected

makes sense

[floral solstice]

also @viral solstice surge has a nice niche where you can make poxbursters blow themselves up when they stand back up

[split oxide]

So without Surge, it's normie tactics then. 😦

[floral solstice]

useful for those times they spawn close and your team needs time to get away

[crude talon]

Surge is literally the best CC in the game rn

[floral solstice]

trauma still the king of poxburster massacre tho

[crude talon]

I use it all the time. My friends hate when I’m not on when they do damnation because of surge lol

[floral solstice]

yeah, surge is super good with coordinated teams, even good at pugs because everyone and their mother runs purg and knife-flamer zealot

[split oxide]

it's OP for elite CC
Not for hordes ** charges.** (like "get to extraction" moments)

[floral solstice]

that's why you bring a horde clear melee, or coordinate with your team that they deal with horde

[crude talon]

Even if you don’t have elites to CC, you can stun portions of a horde and help out or take out a chain sword and have a little fun too lol

[split oxide]

"team": it's always the details - in Psyker-Loner-voice

[crude talon]

I like the fact you can be a support type role with psyker

[floral solstice]

not saying that surge is the best overall staff, just that sometimes i see people who underrate it

meanwhile my easiest t5 high-intensity clears are with surge

[split oxide]

Yup, I've been a Surge main for weeks.
hanging it up tho'
locking down 2xhound + 1xmutie ambush feelz good

[still hearth]

Gun Psyker with Dueling Sword is the clear winner

[floral solstice]

ok reporting you to imperial guard jk

[crude talon]

It’s easy for people to be like, “but no damage” because their brains are smooth

[floral solstice]

first time i met a guy crying about "psyker useless" ingame was a boltgun vet who was struggling to kill shooters, he was wondering why i wasn't killing many of them. what he doesn't realize is i was busy keeping ogryns and ragers off his camo ass lmao

[crude talon]

Also when I find out who’s telling Psykers to bring revolvers to damnation I’m going to report them to the Inquisition

[ornate hamlet]

🙂 ☝️

[split oxide]

PUG teams have low-teamwork stats.

[sharp obsidian]

Crucian roulette melee psyker gaming

[idle bay]

Not just psyker - anyone with revolver is corpsestrach rations material

And critical blessing exploit on it is not excuse 🙂

[floral solstice]

i'd prefer a good player with weird loadout than a bad one spamming meta builds

[crude talon]

I keep seeing a guy named Vengeance in damnations with an axe and a revolver on psyker

And he sucks ass

[floral solstice]

it's usually the meta guys that throws games in my experience

[crude talon]

I love the meta vets that only want to power sword

Like they are cutting grass

And then everyone else gets shot to death

[split oxide]

true
forget coherence: I'd like the players to be in the same part of the map for more than 50%

[ornate hamlet]

blame fatshark for putting stupid materials all over the map

[crude talon]

My zealot friend is out of coherence so much he got 250 hours into the game without realizing you regen toughness in coherence… @north parcel

[strange wigeon]

and secondary objectives

and ammoo

[split oxide]

"oh look, 'zellie' is just a maker on on the far side of the map"

[crude talon]

It’s a meme in our group now

[ornate hamlet]

having to pickup ammo is why i play psyker

one of the dumbest most outdated mechanics in games like this

[floral solstice]

someone didn't pay attention to sefoni or whaterver her name is

[mighty pike]

Occasionally I play veteran and realise that it is as boring as I remember

[crude talon]

Vet is SO BORING

[floral solstice]

^

it feels strong but boring yeah

[crude talon]

Zealot is kinda fun tho

Attacking faster than the speed of light is cool

[split oxide]

Vet + CamoExpert + headshot-penance-run/overwatch-run == zero help

[crude talon]

Also zealot F works on their ranged too

[floral solstice]

gotta say, i used to hate psyker with a passion when i was new with the classes

[split oxide]

zealots are most likely to abandon team.

[floral solstice]

but when i started gaining experience, damn psyker is fun and not as useless as redditors say lol

[still hearth]

Camo Vets standing a mile behind you refusing to move

[crude talon]

Redditors, the dumbest internet users

[split oxide]

"krak" .... [pause] .. "krak" .... [pause] .... [pause] .... [pause] "krak"
meanwhile: I'm dancing around like an idiot with Surge and Atrox

[floral solstice]

still an evisc zealot main though, i pretty much drool everytime i see a crusher on damnation because imma 2 shot that ass

[still hearth]

All classes are bad anyways. Only true good players like me can make them work.

[floral solstice]

no ur bad, all of us are good except literally you jk

[mighty pike]

Psyker is a rough ride and it feels the most demanding but I do have the most fun with it

[rare furnace]

Every good zealot knows that you get toughness only by killing and by pressing ult

[still hearth]

Show me your sedition frame, nerd

[still hearth]

This but unironically

Coherency regen is a meme

[floral solstice]

pls, real darktide players play on uprising

[mighty pike]

The god emperor would want us to play difficulty 1

[still hearth]

Not even the devs can beat uprising, you're lying

[split oxide]

this is how the psyker dies.

[floral solstice]

but fr though, how do people at 30 even stand playing below malice

i didnt play vermintide and malice puts me to sleep

[crude talon]

Is uprising a vermintide thing? I never played haha

[still hearth]

5 toughness per second lol

[still hearth]

It's difficulty 2 in Darktide

[crude talon]

Oh lol is that game way harder or what?

[split oxide]

not the coherency regen: the refusal together.

[still hearth]

That's how everyone dies tbf

[mighty pike]

I only die when there is more than one person with an assault rifle pointed at me

Unironically

[floral solstice]

don't be ashamed, normal guys with normal guns are the real threats in this game

[split oxide]

3x vets with camoexpert on PUG

[still hearth]

Counterfire marking should be part of base Veteran and they should take damage if they don't kill shooters

[mighty pike]

When we get a veteran class with a cool teammate ability and smoke grenades I will play that with gusto

[floral solstice]

just let me solo carry this 4 man coop game reee

[mighty pike]

And new voices, preferably

[split oxide]

true
3x players watching one crazy-knife-horde stream on deathcam. 😐

[still hearth]

Enjoy leveling a new character to 30 with its own inventory

[maiden wolf]

Me just standing there blocking bullets with my sword yelling at the Veteran to fucking peek and shoot something as I draw their fire.

[still hearth]

Veterans all share a handful of braincells and they were all occupied

[floral solstice]

man i wish i recorded that one game i played earlier where 2 vets died at the same time to one crusher's slam attack lol

[still hearth]

When I play Vet it's my fucking mission to kill everything with a gun

But then Fatshark decided that scab stalkers don't count

[split oxide]

Vets are okay - if they're banned from Penance achievement /w CamoExpert

[crude talon]

When I play vet it’s my mission to use anything except the power sword

[mighty pike]

I would rather have veteran's ability highlight scab and dreg gunners than elites. Genuinely

[still hearth]

I've never done a penance that requires me to change how I play for it and I hate all of them that do

[maiden wolf]

Screw the powersword, all my homies hate the power sword.

[still hearth]

Penances should not be for Heresy+

[maiden wolf]

I got the untouchable achievement on psyker the other day actually. It was an accident.

I like that some of the penances are really niche, but they'd be better if they were things that happen naturally in higher difficulties.

[crude talon]

I did the kill a boss with only brain bursts penance and it took about 75 years

[split oxide]

I was talking defelctor (and someone kinda schooled me):
"don't cosplay jedi. shit has got to die - fast"

• and apart from rare stuations(surge-stun elites)... If you are running , blocking ... you aren't killing.

[maiden wolf]

Pick n Mix is a good one.

[crude talon]

Lmao that’s a good one

[maiden wolf]

Usually its me

[maiden wolf]

Honestly I think deflector is valid, and really good, but I also realize its a bit of a crutch, and want to make sure I don't get too ised to using it.

[split oxide]

shield is Ogryn's job (with shield or body)

• I get defelctor cos Vet on 100% headshot penance.

[still hearth]

Deflector isn't a crutch

It's just best used as a clutch tool

[floral solstice]

deflector's definitely handy for those times that the game throws shooters at you from weird positions

[still hearth]

With the way the dodging and sliding doesn't always work you can't avoid all damage

[floral solstice]

for example, last event on relay station likes to spawn shooters from specific doors

while you're getting constantly mobbed by pox

handy to have deflector there so you can push mobs and go for cover

[near gale]

Gotta love these emperor's blessings xD

[viral solstice]

vet is fun if u play the goofy stamina drain deadshot build

[floral solstice]

otherwise, you dont use deflector all the time like you're a shield ogryn

[viral solstice]

i was really bored with it

but then i did that build even tho its kinda jank and it made it feel a lot more fun

getting feedback from dodges makes the game feel way cooler

eg

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/PXG13iNiE572z/d1337GXz15Zn?invite=cr-MSxobTUsMTU3ODYzOTYwLA

[split oxide]

BB 3+ shooters... and they either Retreat or Charge. (either way, problem solved)

[near gale]

Hey, crab, there's a toy for you in my pysker's shop.

[viral solstice]

[near gale]

All jokes asside, they gave me a servicable kantrael xii

[crude talon]

I have so many good guns on my psyker that I’ll never use because I’m a staff cuck

[split oxide]

kantrel's are great.

[warped perch]

Ah I see everyone has joined the psyker side 😏

[north parcel]

dont call me out like that

[warped perch]

GUN PSYKERS

[near gale]

the xii is the best, as well

and it has t3 ghost

the xii isn't as good at getting weakspot hits, but, it's the best at killing the problem instead

[ornate hamlet]

seriously, fatshark servers are just dogshit

EXPLAIN THIS FATSHARK

[split oxide]

the only choice:

• I don't see gunkers in Heresy.
• vets should be powersword at recon-range.

[near gale]

Maybe, but, reacon lasguns do better against monstrosities than the power sword does

[floral solstice]

slaanesh was on your team, secretly fucking you over

[ornate hamlet]

dude it just passes right through the enemy

and this kind of bullshit happens way too frequently

[plain talon]

1% for dodge cap, god dammit. And riposte and precognition blessings have been the bane of my existence.

[near gale]

the left click only does damage/stagger in the initially explosion of the flame, and not with the flame itself

[ornate hamlet]

bro, look at the ground behind it lol

it passed right through the enemy without even applying any burn or any stagger or any damage at all

literally just did nothing at all, and by the residue on the ground you can see that he was not out of range of the attack i used

[near gale]

I'm just saying what i've heard. you were lookin gmore at the ground when you initially shot

I think

idk for sure tho

left click is jank on purgatus

It should have staggered, you're right

[ornate hamlet]

it literally did not even hit the enemy

it should have staggered and burned him

it did absolutely nothing to him

[split oxide]

true .. it's jank but often works.

[still hearth]

You sprinted

[near gale]

isn't the left click of the purgatus mostly for staggering?

[still hearth]

Apparently any input other than moving makes the flame stop working

[split oxide]

I did not know that .. sht
Well that's anothre thing that's hard to fix.

[still hearth]

Idk what specific inputs do it

But the flame will just stop on certain actions

It still flies but it does nothing

[strange wigeon]

didn't someone mention that the purgatus projectile dissapears(visually still there but not mechanically) as soon as you override it with another action? Maybe sprint killed it

[near gale]

That's retarded >.>

[split oxide]

The number of times a dreg just ran through the flames to hit me is annoying.
I thought it was too close a range or something.

[strange wigeon]

pls understand, small indie company, first time making a game like this

[near gale]

I never try to rely on the hip fire of the purgatus or flamethrower

[still hearth]

You can tell much easier if you do the reload reset to spam primary fire

Because it will only go like half the distance then do nothing

So to stagger optimally you have to stand still basically

[near gale]

maybe certain actions, more or less, half the cloud radius?

for the hip fire

[split oxide]

funny.. but I'm happy to wait, regardless (unlike general-chat)

[still hearth]

I think it's more that there's just a delay before you can use the reload trick

[near gale]

or maybe the distance on the hip fire is based on the animation itself

[still hearth]

That seems likely

[near gale]

and canceling it messed with it

[still hearth]

It is only active while you're in the animation is definitely a possible answer

[near gale]

So you're saying players like me, who rarely animation cancel, are less likely to get janked?

if we're on the right page

[wet jacinth]