then at the end of the day you bring them back up
#psyker-class
near gale
It's like... it's so close to making sense, and yet just not there...
west stream
Regular stairs with security doors achieve same result presumably
maybe it has some advantages for keeping vermin controlled
but eh
fierce sinew
we segregate the poors just fine with very energy efficient combinations of elevators and gates in the real world 
west stream
real life poors ain't got shit on warhammer poors
west stream
Underlevel hives pack heat
cloud heron
we segregate the poors just fine with very energy efficient combinations of elev...
Seriously. Just give them some iphones with tik tok installed
safe pendant
sounds heretical
near gale
^
imagine a mass of 50+ workers have to go up those stairs 5 times during a 3 hour period
that add a lot of uses to an elevator
cloud heron
Regular stairs though, in addition to an elevator
near gale
I know
safe pendant
The real question is, why isn't it handicapable?
near gale
cause handi-caps don't exist in 40k
fierce sinew
handicaps are just fast track servitors
near gale
<.<
Yeah >.>'
Do people use the left click, for brain burst? I almost exclusively charge it with right click.
stray pond
Yeah absolutely
If I see the target I want no need to precharge I can just aim directly at it
orchid venture
yeah I usually only precharge if it's like, a dog/mutie/poxwalker I can't see yet
near gale
I suppose I normally don't use it very often, since I am a sitting target
stray pond
Mmm. So close to being done with all my Pskyer penances but GOD I can't be bothered to do Malleus Monstronum
It's so dumb
safe pendant
I don't bother precharging if it's above Malice
orchid venture
I think the math is something like... left click takes 45% peril, while right click is 55% peril?? no real testing involved on my part though so that might be wrong
safe pendant
wish right clicking would hold the charge in stock so it can be used instantly on demand like a grenade
orchid venture
yeah, I think the current system is a little clunky, and kinda inferior to a veteran with a gun 90% of the time
like, if theres a bomber, trapper, or sniper that run away behind a corner the moment you spot them, theres nothing better than brain burst to end em
but that doesn't happen often
mighty pike
Brainburst is an armour penetrating sniper rifle
It's better and worse than a veteran's capabilities in all the ways it would be if it literally was
Unfortunately without the coolness of it being a gigantic armour penetrating sniper rifle
orchid venture
just wait until veteran gets that stub rifle that was in the datamining
then we'll have a veritable army of xXMLGPROXx veterans to kill things for us
mighty pike
Idk really what our class actually is. It's like they wanted to make an anti-elite class and then realised they also needed a support class because veteran is ranged anti elite and zealot is melee anti-elite
So here we are. Just kinda doing our own thing sort of
pale crescent
We save ammo for the team, cc, and head pop
has anyone had luck with focused channeling blessing?
safe pendant
Helping my teammates complete their help downed operatives penances faster
orchid venture
we clear hoards way better than a veteran can
Yeah my god roll purge staff has focused channeling, i love having it
stray pond
Speaking of Veterans, why are there so many that tunnel-vision melee?
pale crescent
Speaking of Veterans, why are there so many that tunnel-vision melee?
power sword has iron sights
mighty pike
Speaking of Veterans, why are there so many that tunnel-vision melee?
Because they act like they've been brainburst once already
orchid venture
usually they tunnel vision melee because power sword is the best melee weapon in the game
stray pond
Like if someone gets jumped by a dog a fair distance away from the Veteran why the fuck do they start running over with their power sword instead of shooting the damn thing
safe pendant
Speaking of Veterans, why are there so many that tunnel-vision melee?
I feel a bit useless watching only hordes show up and no elites so I jump in with my shovel to melee
and it feels like a waste of ammo to use on them
stray pond
It's one thing if it's hordes, but I'm talking about Specials and Elites mainly
Like I don't get it
Sure it makes my Heresy runs more... Interesting I suppose, but damn still
orchid venture
yknow what would make brainburst really good? if it's targeting prioritized elites and specials in a crowd. then we could actually do our job
safe pendant
I swear I lost a heresy run because the Vet insisted on helping my Ogryn sweep hordes away and someone in the back got downed
stray pond
Super tall Psyker meta
cloud heron
i dont know how much it actually matters but I do a lot of crouching in front of my team as psyker
got that slider all the way down
mighty pike
Super tall Psyker meta
I'm already slightly taller than average and I keep getting shot through my head behind cover
Also what kind of bird is your profile picture?
Reminds me of a frogmouth
orchid venture
I lost a run because our zealot with 4 heath ran off by themself and got jumped by 4 shotgunners near a cliff, and the ogryn that went to save them bullcharged directly off the edge, leaving 2 psykers to deal with like 10 elites total
stray pond
No definitely not a wren the bastard was too confident to be one
supple skiff
psyker tall enough to launch a void strike at head level and maintain being parallel with the ground 
orchid venture
the bird in my icon is a baby chocobo from ff15 wearing a runescape party hat
stray pond
I'm already slightly taller than average and I keep getting shot through my head...
Carolina Wren is my best guess, but specifically that picture is me gripping the damn thing because it got into my house for the second day in a row and catching it without hurting it was pain.
To this day I still don't know how it got inside
Twice
mighty pike
I went away on a weekend once and when I came back there was a pigeon living in my house. It came down the chimney
stray pond
Yeah that sounds about right for a pigeon
floral solstice
I lost a run because our zealot with 4 heath ran off by themself and got jumped ...
Sounds like the classic pug experience
supple skiff
I've been suprised with the pug experience, honestly thought it would be worse
granted heresy is very much touch and go
floral solstice
I played a damnation pug last night on smelter comp, the 3 randoms were already camping the door while I was still doing the 3rd tentacles event in the last area
I was smacking tentacles for nearly 3-4mins? Before I started using voice to say "we're not done yet"
supple skiff
yeah, seen a lot of folks not realize those regen
think as time goes on more and more of whats left of the player base is tide vets
floral solstice
They didn't even go to the tentacle area
supple skiff
ooof
floral solstice
They just went straight for the door after the 2nd event
I was laughing and raging at the same time
long wharf
yeah, I think the flux of new players has actually been a little annoying
in the sense that they don't seem to have any idea how to play the objectives
forest coral
everyone new at some point and game doesn't really tell you how to do objectives right away without looking up an explanation
simple junco
The community seems to follow the soulslike formula where the experienced vets leave or get burnt out and newer players struggle to either change or match the expectations set.
long wharf
the real gut punch is when you finally get to the end-of-mission screen and see two level 30s and a 25
long wharf
this was literally one of my runs earlier today
two of us pinged the DH and the idiot ran right towards it and attacked it, and then when he died, he wrote "sorry didn't see it until it was too late"
wet jacinth
That's the vets when they see it go from sitting to floating
Thinking it's triggered
wet jacinth
two of us pinged the DH and the idiot ran right towards it and attacked it, and ...
I've had a moment like that except. They were mid sneaking past one and I spawned in waking it up
orchid venture
I was that veteran on psyker in a run the other day. had a precharged BB and was looking around for a trapper that ran off across the chasm, had no idea there was a demonhost over there and popped him one after the vet already alerted them
long wharf
I've had a moment like that except. They were mid sneaking past one and I spawne...
oof, but that's not your fault
orchid venture
thankfully i had the talent that lets me block forever
so we just kinda cleaned it up
orchid venture
like, i can raise anyone so long as theres no guns shooting me, imagine what I could do if I had deflector
long wharf
like, i can raise anyone so long as theres no guns shooting me, imagine what I c...
deflector isn't as amazing as you imagine it to be
on heresy+, a handful of shooters will drive your peril up very quickly
makes deflector only good for ducking into and out of cover
or for very short periods in the open
orchid venture
I do imagine it's better than getting shot by everything though
long wharf
sure, but as soon as your peril hits 90%, it stops blocking shots
it's hard to appreciate just how fast that happens until you see it for yourself
there's a reason why I don't use my very nice blocking fsword
besides the fact that I don't like the moveset
orchid venture
theres so many cases where an entire regiment is spread out, and running in to hit them with a sword only rewards you with an entire salvo of gunfire to the back
reasons to take a surge staff
long wharf
I love my surge staff
I just wish there was a surge-specific blessing that made it even better
lost river
sure, but as soon as your peril hits 90%, it stops blocking shots
Block cost reduction apparently reduces the ammount of peril generated
long wharf
Block cost reduction apparently reduces the ammount of peril generated
we had a discussion on this earlier
and I looked at the code
yes, block efficiency and cost reduction both factor into the peril cost of blocking
floral solstice
Forked lightning surge that still chains when
long wharf
but there's also a factor using your max stamina
so for that, it's beneficial to also up your max stamina
orchid venture
i really wish charging it longer made it arc to more targets
long wharf
yeah
it needs more damage scaling and more targets via charging
to include more primary targets
lost river
I really dislike the surge staff
Just feels so underwhelming
long wharf
because it's not really for killing things
using surge effectively requires really paying attention to both the enemies and the rest of the team
that's one of the reasons why I like it
orchid venture
a surge staff keeps runs safe, biggest support staff in the game
forest coral
I feel it’s only good when your team has the damage and skill to capitalise on the stun
lost river
Sure but supporting my random teammates, who often are lobotomized, isnt really the best idea if I can just kill everything myself imo
long wharf
that's true
lost river
If they dont then kill the stuff properly we have a problem
wet jacinth
floral solstice
I really dislike the surge staff
Just feels so underwhelming
Pretty much how I felt about surge when I started playing psyker more (as zealot main), but then I started winning games easily with it. I like winning.
forest coral
I feel it’s easier to be useful with purgatus at higher difficulties
lost river
Pretty much how I felt about surge when I started playing psyker more (as zealot...
Thats why I use the flame staff. everything burns to death and we win
wet jacinth
Purgatus just lowers the general HP of hordes making them easier to kill with melee and etc.
floral solstice
Until you meet 2 knife-flamer zealots
wet jacinth
Power of DoTs
floral solstice
Dont get me wrong, i know the purg is good
lost river
Purgatus just lowers the general HP of hordes making them easier to kill with me...
Purgatus lowers the general HP of hordes to 0
floral solstice
It's the I-learned-my-build-from-youtube build, knife zealot
forest coral
I just wish the build wasn’t reliant on an rng blessing lol
wet jacinth
Just use 380 common gear
orchid venture
since I got my fairly incredible purge staff, i've been using that every run, but not using the full flames build. i like the faster BB after ulting too much to use the soulflame one, and the other flame things arent really all that special
wet jacinth
orchid venture
so i just use my regular build
forest coral
Just use 380 common gear
Me crying at a near perfect stat knife but no laceration or bleed
boreal meteor
I need help with some banger psyker builds, the recon lasgun headpop build aint working for me
lost river
since I got my fairly incredible purge staff, i've been using that every run, bu...
The ult soulflame has incredible range though in a cone in front of you and does a lot of damage
orchid venture
but it doesn't really kill much, is my issue
wet jacinth
I need help with some banger psyker builds, the recon lasgun headpop build aint ...
Idk why so many people are trying to get BB flayer builds. They act like it doesnt have a 15 second cooldown
boreal meteor
any builds you recommend? just hit 30 as well
lost river
but it doesn't really kill much, is my issue
It kills pretty much all garbage in my experience and maybe gunners too
wet jacinth
It is nice but it isnt being used in the way people think.
orchid venture
on what difficulty? im usually on Heresy
lost river
damnation
bold flint
you need like 5 warp charges to kill dreg shooters
orchid venture
are you using the trait that gives you 6 stacks of warp charges too?
lost river
I am experimenting with either that or flayer. I just think flayer is funny so I use that a lot now
dusty meadow
what do you guys think of this force sword
forest coral
Is good
orchid venture
im usually using flayer, it's just nice to get a free warp charge every now and then
lost river
Burning enemies maxes your charges almost instantly
But yeah I like the flayer even though it sounds really underwhelming with the cooldown
bold flint
i find flayer to be a more powerful more consistent warp charge generator than that other 4% on kill
i pick up the cooldown aura instead
long wharf
upping your warp charge cap to 6 means you can ult (at max warp charges) a horde and kill it with that alone
cloud heron
I pretty much always use flayer when not using the purge staff
near gale
This is so true, that it's sad
wet jacinth
It's funny that Flayer can proc on BB itself
lost river
i find flayer to be a more powerful more consistent warp charge generator than t...
The cooldown aura is so incredibly good
near gale
I learned by accident don't shoot anything near the daemonhost
A reaper moved near it, and I didn't know...
and now I do know...
near gale
cloud heron
How would you feel if you're trying to nap and dudes next to you are keeling over dead
near gale
Tired
lost river
I hate people near me when I sleep so probably good
near gale
^
bold flint
i wonder how fast the host dies with 4 zealots with activated thunderhammers charge at it
cloud heron
It's not them being near you, it's bodies falling all over the ground
probably them shouting when they die
wet jacinth
Something just hits different when you've got 4 Ogryns throwing their Boxes all in to the Monstrosities
orchid venture
I need a group or such to help with my monster killing penance
I've got like 8 missions left before I hit 100
lost river
Just did that penance an hour ago. It's such bad design
wet jacinth
It used to be 100%
cloud heron
The beast took almost 10 minutes to kill with it
Of nurgle? I think that's a bad one to pick
bold flint
why 10 minutes
lost river
Well its not my pick but the game's
cloud heron
You just kill it and find a new one
orchid venture
I had the perfect chance to do it, but the ogryn on my team didn't know to use the slab shield special to block the DH, so he just died to it
lost river
half the missions I didnt even get a bosss
clear heath
holding down a button is too hard
lost river
Ogryns arent known to be bright
cloud heron
On heresy? I feel like I always get at least one monstrosity
lost river
we played like 4 missions without a single monster
cloud heron
unlucky
orchid venture
the first time I helped a friend do their penance, they managed to do it against a plague ogryn, just kiting it around the whole area
near gale
we played like 4 missions without a single monster
Then you do the 1 uprising or malice run with 3+ monstrocities
cloud heron
fighting plague ogryns in general is just more fun than beasts of nurgle
near gale
90% of the time? Beast of nurgle...
lost river
Yeah really feels scuffed
lost river
Plague Ogryns are really easy to fight
Can do them solo in melee without taking damage probably
near gale
Then you get the 1 run where the ogryn somehow knocks 2 players off the map
lost river
Getting knocked off the map in this game is just way too easy anyway
Especially with all these fucking barrels behind every corner
Throwing you right over the tiny fence too every time
orchid venture
yeah thats no problem. the real problem is the bloodthirsty teammates with thunder hammers and power swords and twin linked heavy stubbers that deal 50% of it's health in 2 seconds
near gale
I had the assassination target ledge me, once
I didn't even know there were ledges IN the arena...
cold zinc
monstrous was one of the easier ones since you just need a willing team
cloud heron
on the really green map, torrent I think, there's the bit where you need to scan before an elevator
the statues by the elevator are actually bottomless pits that you can fall into
extremely annoyed to discover that
lost river
They really need to up their safety regulations in the imperium
safe pendant
Some places are OSHA compliant. good handrail placement
lost river
Some places are OSHA compliant. good handrail placement
I would like to see the OSHA inspection report of Tertium
I bet its stellar
cloud heron
monstrous was one of the easier ones since you just need a willing team
idk, I get a lot of anxiety about asking people to spend time just helping me. Like "speedrun a heresy mission while I have low health" at least lets them actually play the game
cold zinc
just use the lfg channels if you don't want to bug randoms
lots of people are willing to help out
cloud heron
Yeah I did and have gotten it already, but it still just feels bad
lost river
Yeah penances that depend on your teammate beeing helpful or not retarded arent really a good idea.
Also penances that want you to sabotage your team are a genius decision for sure like the suicide one
cold zinc
I get you
orchid venture
my psyker complains about the absolute state of the place, probably because she's memorized the OSHA Guidebook
lost river
I read it daily before bed too
long wharf
the Atoma Lex doesn't cover safety rails
safe pendant
Somewhere in the handbook there's a note about keeping explosive barrels away from railings
cloud heron
in the grim darkness of the far future, there is no osha
lost river
always keep them behind small pillars so you cant see them before they blow you into the void
safe pendant
more like OSHIT amirite
long wharf
okay, that's enough psyker for one night, time to stab everything with my zealot
forest coral
how does one do malleus mostronum 
cloud heron
how does one do malleus mostronum <:TiredCat:672787885778534401>
Get a willing team with a shield ogryn. Shield ogryn wakes it up and holds the special block. He blocks infinitely and you just stand there BBing it while the rest of the team protects you
you can do it with a plague ogryn or beast of nurgle too but you have to kite them
forest coral
so best is to get a daemonhost?
floral solstice
Some maps spawn daemonhost somewhat close to the starting area so you can try doing a duo of that with a bro shieldgryn
forest coral
also does the damage have to be 90% brainburst?
cloud heron
yeah
long wharf
you absolutely have to get the killing blow
it's best to be in a premade group specifically for penance completion
so everyone understands what's going on
pugs will just fuck you over
stray pond
It's a really stupid penance
long wharf
there are worse ones
placid sorrel
seer saying "poor dog" with genuine sadness after killing poxhound is probably the funniest ive heard
orchid venture
I'm so close to being done with my psyker for awhile. I wana move on to my ogryn already...
frozen rivet
who tf designed this penance lmao
Sadists
stray pond
People who don't play their own game
frozen rivet
I'm so close to being done with my psyker for awhile. I wana move on to my ogryn...
Reject brain blast. Embrace box
frozen rivet
pugs will just fuck you over
Funny thing that for me. Once I nearly had it in a pug with a Beast of nurgle. 3 people 1 bot. Bot was dead. Zealot fucked off to nowhere. Ogryn kiting the beast. Had it down to <1/4th hp but the horde the zealot was holding back apparently killed him and ended that. It was at the start of the enclavum baross mission
forest coral
People who don't play their own game
FR dude. Zealot penance was actually fun to do, psyker penance literally be like
lost river
Very true since the penance actually legit tells you to kill yourself
frozen rivet
Psyker’s have the worst penances. I got all the vet penances already (granted I cheesed the last one) but I haven’t even bothered with the blowing yourself up one beyond a few tries where I felt dirty
Straight up griefing
lost river
The one in thrownside where you have to hack the elevator always spawns groups of 3-4 shotgunners from behind a wall
The location is in a guide to and its probably one of the best places to do it if you suicide right when they climb over
Kinda hard to do without a friend though and in a public game you will surely end up dead and everybody annoyed
orchid venture
i managed to get that one by just like, paying attention, and using a trauma staff to kinda push them together and put me at high peril
lost river
Yeah its doable but absolutely braindead design compared to the comparable tier of penance for other classes
orchid venture
saw three shotgunners in a hoard, thought "oh shit, I can try for my thing here", went for it, and got it in one
teal kite
imma run gaia autogun/knife psyker
forest coral
i tried to do that once, but my party had trigger happy vets with bolters 
long wharf
bleeding knife zealot has no business being this silly fun to play
west stream
we had/have a group of psykers ofr helping each other with penances
near gale
Maybe not, but, that's asside from the point!
teal kite
facetanking a DH with a force sword is doable
I use the force sword on DH, the charge attack does gud damages
forest coral
force sword makes many life problems go away 
primal fjord
So this baby came up on my contract Acquisition reset just now. Can I as a Psyker, make any use of it? 🤔
cloud heron
Some people use knife on the psyker but i don't really understand it
near gale
So this baby came up on my contract Acquisition reset just now. Can I as a Psyk...
Could you? Yes. Should you? Probably not
digital narwhal
This looked so good till I saw the modifiers.
near gale
This looked so good till I saw the modifiers.
You could reroll the weak spot damage, more damage to elites isn't terrible at least... unlike crit damage...
near gale
the 3 more important stats are above 50%
warp resistance, quell speed, damage
That's useable, just not worth the price
digital narwhal
If I wanna get something from Melk, I'd rather all the important stats be above 70.
stray pond
Speakin' of Surge staves and Emperor's Blessings, I've got a real nice one but unfortunately it has Run 'n' Gun
Probably the best Emperor's Blessing I've ever gotten
stray pond
My Zealot has the only good Melk weapon I've ever seen
near gale
+75% damage is pretty nice
stray pond
Only good Melk weapon, lots of subpar or alright ones
floral solstice
Probably the best Emperor's Blessing I've ever gotten
yo that's close to what I have, run n gun stalks me hard on my consecrates
near gale
It wasn't a god roll on the stats, but, the t4 headtaker was a very VERY nice roll
stray pond
Run 'n' Gun is a curse yeah
primal fjord
I almost want to get the bleed knife as just something to have. 😅
near gale
Run n gun is useable... and that's about it
able to be used, but, not really great in any way
I supposed it's better than an axe with limbsplitter and brutal momentum
floral solstice
So basically, it's crap
long wharf
I supposed it's better than an axe with limbsplitter and brutal momentum
nothing is better
near gale
I supposed it's better than an axe with limbsplitter and brutal momentum
on anything but psyker
near gale
nothing is better
nothing is worse, you mean?
long wharf
nope
near gale
Cause you're saying nothing is better than run and gun
on a staff
like not even t4 deflector on a force sword
long wharf
no, I'm saying nothing is better than a combat axe with limbsplitter and brutal momentum
near gale
oh
long wharf
not for psyker for melee
near gale
For zealot and vet it's kind of a waste of a mix of blessings
for psyker it's like the god roll of blessings
long wharf
for zealot, nothing beats bleeding knife for melee
near gale
for zealot, nothing beats bleeding knife for melee
Uh... except literally everything >.>
long wharf
I'm literally killing everything with a knife, this is ridiculous
floral solstice
Guess it's fine
near gale
I'm literally killing everything with a knife, this is ridiculous
It's just: past malice, the knife falls off hard
long wharf
does it?
near gale
Yeah, if your party doesn't have something to compensate
floral solstice
Knife zealot is good, saying nothing beats it in melee is, well...
long wharf
my knife doesn't have that one blessing that gives extra damage to weak spots if they're bleeding
near gale
Knife zealot is good, saying nothing beats it in melee is, well...
heresy?
long wharf
and my pistol only has CR1
near gale
If you don't have a flamer to compensate for the horde clear, it gets messy
wheat quartz
knife/brauto works fine in heresy imo
floral solstice
Is that on psyk or zealot
wheat quartz
Zealot
floral solstice
Oh
wheat quartz
In context of the zealot flamer talk
floral solstice
Let's get things straight, Knife on zealot is fine on damnation.
Saying it's the best melee is just heresy.
near gale
That
floral solstice
Like one of those clickbait youtubers
near gale
Useable? Yes. Best? No, lol.
forest coral
Axe zealot with a decent elite killing gun tho
near gale
Ever since I found better melee options I have not gone back to the knife, on zealot.
floral solstice
Sadly a lot of peeps on youtube and reddit now believes the knife is the best melee on zealot
I wonder if they actually tested other weapons
near gale
I've never thought that. There was a time it was the best melee I had, at the time... but never the best melee for zealot
floral solstice
Or if their zealot experience isn't limited to "I leveled zealot to 30 and played some games with it"
near gale
Sick as hell? yeah. Fun? Totally. Best? ... no.
wheat quartz
Depends on what you're doing. It's unquestionably the fastest plasteel vacuuming speed tool.
Lol.
floral solstice
It's the best for griefing your team
near gale
^
And for immediately catching shade xD
"What a waste of a build" "You're using the knife build?!"
"Looky here boys, we got a knife zealot"
"You know that's little more than a toothpick, right?"
floral solstice
But seriously though, I don't mind random knife zealots as much as you see me flame them. It's just the newbies who think they're unkillable with it and end up ruining the run that I hate.
rose lily
as long as it's not carapace - why not carapace? because there's too few of those enemies?
sly cove
Tips for getting the "going out with a bang" penance? My explosion never seems to kill anything
near gale
Found this joke, again. Still just as funny as before. xD
cyan notch
most oppressed class yea
near gale
Tips for getting the "going out with a bang" penance? My explosion never seems t...
Know you're gonna fail, probably many times. So when it does fail, don't feel like it's your fault.
Soften the elites up, first
sly cove
Know you're gonna fail, probably many times. So when it does fail, don't feel li...
Appreciate it, good way to look at it
near gale
give them a good frisk with your melee
not too rough
not too soft
Then BAM if their faces!
sly cove
whats the fastest way to get my peril to 100%?
near gale
Also having your team keen on what your doing is vital
near gale
whats the fastest way to get my peril to 100%?
surge staff/flame staff, I think
both are petty good at it, if you don't know what you're doing
thorny idol
near gale
Funny thing is I got the flawless execution just by playing my usually style as Ogryn
Trying to avoid damage, killing elites, keeping my teammates alive to cover my hapless ass
I think the 10th mission was that low intensity damnation mission my friend dragged me along on, when I was lvl 20
idk how I didn't go down that run... but my pulse was at least 150 the whole run
saying I was on high alert would have been an understatement
warped perch
Do low-tier blessings get upgraded when you upgrade a weapon
Or do they just stay the same
near gale
stay the same
split oxide
looking at the wording for 'going out with a bang':
- (do I have to kill 3x elites with 1x overload?)
- (or can I kill 3x elites with 3x different missions)
near gale
think it's the top 1
cloud heron
It's absolutely the first one
west stream
Ye
best thing to do is heresy, has big groups of elites
with other psykers to help ideally,
since you will fail
forest coral
and pray your group isnt running bolters
flint turtle
I must admit, I love they psyker archetype but man, I can't wait for that gunslinger class
west stream
In order to help someone here I used force sword and corralled a group of 4 maulers and a couple ragers until they were able to detonate themselves properly
other than that it's fairly straightforward. MM is the one you will literally never achieve naturally tho
forest coral
MM is just, horribly designed
west stream
if it was, finish off a monstrosity with BB
sure
can be a bit tricky
but itd' be doable
90% of hp with bb will never, ever, happen naturally
steel egret
Unless you clutch in uh.. in one 1/1000 scenario
maiden wolf
worth it for the melk coins?
I'd get it
west stream
Unless you clutch in uh.. in one 1/1000 scenario
yes if entire team dies and you decide to become a dodge god it's doable
unless a dog kills you of course
I think MM and pick n mix are only ones I have left
forest coral
I still havent pulled off going out with a bang
west stream
and tbh pick n mix is fairly doable in some defend position sequences
oh, i also havent managed to get the one about shoving 7 over
forest coral
Oh the push one can be cheesed
west stream
but that one is simple enough, it's just rare people don't just shoot the horde when you prep it
which was my issue last time, someone naded me as I shoved them over so it didnt count
forest coral
solo into logistratum where there is a bridge without railings at the start
and just wait for first horde to spawn
loop around it and push
pray ur bots dont kill too many
west stream
ye I know location, just need to kidnap someone so I can make match private.
even if I chose difficulty 1 there's apparently people playing that
maniacs, truly
forest coral
nah, just people who touch grass
cloud heron
oh, i also havent managed to get the one about shoving 7 over
The vigil station espionage objective finale where you're guarding the interrogator in the middle defending two bridges, is really good for this.
there will always be multiple big hordes of poxwalkers just running at you and you can ult them off the bridge
west stream
only issue is any half decent team will be clearing them
cloud heron
You could definitely get 20 on the vigil station map
west stream
so at least it's a bit ezier
forest coral
You could definitely get 20 on the vigil station map
are there such things as MM groups
cloud heron
are there such things as MM groups
I found a group for it in the vox lfg channel here
forest coral
oh awesome
split oxide
I just did mine 1hr ago. you just have to make sure a teammate doesn't help you.
I had surge and atrox5..
- you can hold that bridge without even using the staff.
- as long as you don't get a burster.
- block/push/hit repeat.
- when you got a bridge full, (f)
cloud heron
we all took turns getting it
forest coral
id be down for that during weekends if it still happens
cloud heron
it's not like a recurring event or anything, you just ask or look to see if anyone else is asking
forest coral
ah kk
would it be expected to have a shield ogryn available or can we just tank with force sword
cloud heron
when I did mine only two of us had shield ogryns. Have you tanked a demonhost with a force sword before?
i don't think it's as easy as some people make it out to be
definitely not as controllable either
compared to a shield ogryn I mean
vagrant cedar
stack block efficiency and it's doable if you good
vagrant cedar
if you suck don't even bother, get ogryn
west stream
I wonder if we will get actual energy shields if the defender psyker subclass makes it in
achully
vagrant cedar
maybe in 2025
split oxide
Ogryn with Refractor Shield.. Yum.
Have you considered Enclavum Baross 2x platforms on either side of the BridgeControls?
Or the AgiesStation at the top of the stairs.. (when you hold the stairs, the climb to flank you)
- The (f) will do damage, the fall will do more..
- hit them diagnoally and yo can get a whole line of them climbing onto the ledge
west stream
they need to die I feel a proper fall of doom is more reliable
long wharf
the absolute easiest way to get Cliffhanger is mission that starts with you crossing a bridge that has a thin walkway over an abyss parallel to it
cyan notch
chasm logistratum or hab dreyko
lone fractal
psyker is really good at ressing people
stuck sinew
Way I got cliffhanger was Hab Dreyko at the end sequence on the way to the Valkyrie, there's that piping you run up and a bunch of enemies drop from above right onto the edge, and usually quick enough that teammates won't clear them before you get the chance
digital narwhal
God Roll fr
olive cairn
I got a 460 trauma staff from the emperor. It's... not too bad... but impractical.
olive cairn
Green for base, but that blessing is nice. Reroll the sprint.
long wharf
left
fallow spoke
yeah thats what I thought, ill upgrade the green and see what I get
maiden wolf
The focused channeling blessing is S-tier on purgatus, but the green one has better modifiers. Grab the green one and keep it til you can put focused channelling on it.
fallow spoke
is its perk good on the green?
ornate hamlet
Looks like I should just avoid this week.
maiden wolf
is its perk good on the green?
Its middle of tue road IMO, tgat weapon is already great against groaners and poxwalkers. So its kinda overkill.
olive cairn
Malice week
shadow onyx
any hidden change between tier blessing with Focused Channeling?
maiden wolf
Looks like I should just avoid this week.
Rerol grims and 25 missions, scrips isn't so bad.
olive cairn
Its middle of tue road IMO, tgat weapon is already great against groaners and po...
Anything that's speeds trash horde clearing for purge is great
maiden wolf
any hidden change between tier blessing with Focused Channeling?
It only spawns at tier 2 AFAIK
shadow onyx
It only spawns at tier 2 AFAIK
ok
ornate hamlet
Rerol grims and 25 missions, scrips isn't so bad.
What ended up as 12 grims, was what I was rerolling. Can't do it anymore.
maiden wolf
Damn
olive cairn
Team grim pickups count
shadow onyx
25 missions is not that bad too
better not reroll and get the 6 secondaries on x mission
fallow spoke
okay this is what it ended up rollig, which perk to reroll?
hexed inlet
Crit damage
orchid venture
yeah, crit damage does next to nothing for you
though if it was crit chance, that's excellent
warp flurry is pretty alright, I think most everyone usually wants warp nexus though for extra crit chance
fallow spoke
so what perk should I target once I See it?
daring nexus
I thought warp flurry was broken?
orchid venture
I have no clue, any number of things could be broken right now
daring nexus
I’ve tested it myself doesn’t seem to increase charge speed at all
The psyker staves really got the worst of it when it comes to buggy blessings
orchid venture
eh, it'll probably be good once it's fixed lol
daring nexus
Yea lol next year
long wharf
I am sad that knife zealot is more fun to play than psyker
olive cairn
Purg build question: Does Warp Battery or Kinect Overload pair better with Ascendant Blaze?
storm hollow
greetings fellow schizos
long wharf
its fun until you face horde without flamer
I mean, I'm not wiping the horde out with my knife, but I'm not afraid of it
cloud heron
Purg build question: Does Warp Battery or Kinect Overload pair better with Ascen...
I prefer overload because I like feeling like my extra stacks are doing something but 6 stack ult is really good
long wharf
as long as you have room to dance, you're fine
fierce sinew
both are good in different ways
storm hollow
Purg build question: Does Warp Battery or Kinect Overload pair better with Ascen...
battery if you're using blaze
if you're using kinetic barrage, overload
fierce sinew
overload plays very well with blaze too
storm hollow
anyway random question, the hell's the difference between these two besides numbers
fierce sinew
if you tend to use your shout against shooters a lot (don't play with a vet, etc) battery is going to be better
olive cairn
if you're using kinetic barrage, overload
Agreed
cyan notch
anyway random question, the hell's the difference between these two besides numb...
movesets
storm hollow
my psyker's primary weapon is actually the fucking brainburst
olive cairn
anyway random question, the hell's the difference between these two besides numb...
Something we can't see
storm hollow
maintain max warp charges; burn any nearby enemies if possible, use my trusty sword against small groups of enemies; my purgatus against huge crowds that are too close
fierce sinew
overload gets slept on but those stacks don't care about the stack limit on your staff
makes mixed hordes easier
so if you aren't worried about dying to shooters and spend more time flaming, overload is probably going to do more
the trash dying piles stacks on the ragers etc mixed in
storm hollow
tbh my brainburts priority is usually Trash melee > shooters > gunners/shotgunners/snipers/ragers/hounds/maulers > mutants > crushers/reapers/bulwarks > monstrosities
olive cairn
Overload makes me feels good with a purg staff. I get depressed when nothing is burning.
fierce sinew
it also plays really well in multiples
because of the clown shoes way multiple psykers with AB works
storm hollow
i know it's obvious but it's good taking care of some regular shooters while you dont have to focus on the many elites
olive cairn
Does soulblaze apply through overload supress?
fierce sinew
I don't think so
fierce sinew
yeah, it's the things applying it that do
storm hollow
i just kind of see it as the occassional crowd clearer, most times "I want my peril gone now so i can keep brain bursting this fucking boss"
besides why waste an ability if my staff can let me use fire
olive cairn
Right. I don't believe I've seen any kills or suppression via Kinectic Overload. If anything it's another way to tag elites for the team.
olive cairn
I'm ready for a new boss.
storm hollow
time to see if I’m not the only one thinking of a space marine boss then
lemme just get the popcorn
cloud heron
personally looking forward to fighting archaon
storm hollow
I’m assuming that’s a nurgle psyker
cloud heron
archaon the everchosen, supreme champion of all four chaos gods
never seen a lasgun in his entire life though
so who knows
olive cairn
A scab militarum tank crew would be amazing.
cloud heron
A tank I think would be more of an objective than a boss
storm hollow
sounds like a bit higher on the power level scale compared to four bumpkins who can barely take down a daemon together
cloud heron
sounds like a bit higher on the power level scale compared to four bumpkins who ...
archaon's from warhammer fantasy, so maybe we can just dome him with a bolter
storm hollow
okay, but i'd safely assume he'd get a tad stronger since those times since that's like
idk, a 40*,000+* year timegap
and if he's the champion of all the chaos gods, with that amount of time i'd assume he'd become significantly powerful and possibly learned the tools of the time
olive cairn
The problem is most of the cool 40k stuff is OP by lore for our rejects.
A single ork boss maybe?
glossy escarp
and if he's the champion of *all* the chaos gods, with that amount of time i'd a...
I mean yeah that's cool and all but how about an orbital bombardment?
Like literally just glass the fucking planet
"I wield a thousand swords at once, fear me"
"Say goodbye to your planet knucklehead"
storm hollow
like for him to nuke the planet or us
because if us, then why is darktide even a game lmao
glossy escarp
No I mean WE nuke the planet he's on
unreal echo
what are good perks and blessings to look for on force sword ?
cyan notch
deflector slaughterer shred bloodthristy
compact cargo
deflector
unreal echo
ty
fresh reef
spicy mk4 making me feel like trying it
olive cairn
Good start
gilded cloud
What's your guys' favorite type of melee for the psyker? So far I'm like the dueling sword a lot more compared to the claw sword. Haven't tried force sword yet tho
compact cargo
caxe
fresh reef
I enjoy dueling sword and axe
gilded cloud
Isn't the axe really bad at clearing hordes tho? Since it's single target right? Doesn't cleave
floral solstice
Depends on the axe
wheat quartz
Antax mk5 with brutal momentum has infinite cleave and a spammable horizontal push attack
floral solstice
With brutal momentum bless you deal with hordes easily
I use atrox mk 2 on my psyker because the game hates giving me good anta mk5's, decent enough for hordes
gilded cloud
Ah ok. I'm at a point where most my things have no bless
gilded cloud
Checking the shop <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
wheat quartz
and praying to the Omnissiah that Hadron won't brick your shit
iron marten
I really like an nice heavy axe if I'm going purge otherwise dueling sword or claw are preferred for hordes. Feels good to bury that axe in some rager trying to get in my face and stagger him with the special attack
rose lily
anyone down for a damnation?
I can play psyker with purg or surge staff or ogryn with mk III cleaver & GG
fair warning: i've never completed a damnation
timid storm
Why's everyone run dueling sword?
I tend to run harder single target weapons or really big crowd clear
fresh reef
Why's everyone run dueling sword?
mobility good
storm hollow
hey does anybody have a resource that names all the mk variants of each weapon and the movesets
vapid brook
i guess i need to lurk this channel to figure out a good psyker build since up till now i've only really played my ogryn lul
pale basalt
there are a lot of viable ways to psyke, just need the right gear I guess
worthy wedge
Yeah, gear (and desired role) makes the build more than selected passives, unfortunately.
topaz tiger
Tips for Perk reroll? : /
worthy wedge
Man that's pretty solid as is. I wish I had something even close to as good.
glossy escarp
Yeah that's pretty decent
Dunno how many ogryns you'll kill with that though so unless you wanna dps bosses with it you could look into rerolling unyielding maybe?
Idk
topaz tiger
Yeah - guess u got a point there. I wonder which Perk might be a fine replacement.
near wyvern
Tips for Perk reroll? : /
I would roll the unyielding into flak. The only enemies that are unyielding are Bulwarks, Reapers and monstrosities. Bulwarks you rarely kill with Purge because of the shield and Reapers rarely because they most often fight you at a longer distance. You rarely purge monstrosities because adds are always your top prio as a psyker. Flak is like half the enemies in the game and will allow you to melt Maulers.
orchid venture
finally realized what I dislike about Surge. thing is absolutely useless during a hoard
like, outside a hoard, against roaming ranged guys? it's fine, it works, ranged guys during a hoard? you'd be better off running at them with a melee weapon
idle bay
finally realized what I dislike about Surge. thing is absolutely useless during ...
Not exactly - if hoard is far away - you can kill quite a lot of them by spamming LMB headshots , and also suppress the living shit out of it.
pliant junco
Why's everyone run dueling sword?
very nice dodges, underestimate horde clear, decent mono target dmg
idle bay
And after it get close.. yeah, put the Surge staff away 🙂
pliant junco
i prefer force sword to nuke mono and purgatus for mass hordes
they complete each other well
orchid venture
but like, using quietude with surge must not be what it's best with, probably better with the warp weapon kills one
cyan notch
but like, using quietude with surge must not be what it's best with, probably be...
i think you got it the other way round quietitude is great with surge
idle bay
i prefer force sword to nuke mono and purgatus for mass hordes
I have setups:
- Deflector Force Sword/Purgatus
- MK V Axe / Surge
For 2 different moods 🙂
orchid venture
I spent about 50% of that run with zero toughness because I couldn't manually quell pretty much the entire time
high intensity missions are really not made for surge staff it seems
I've seen so many people saying quietude works with passive quelling, but I haven't seen it a single time
cyan notch
no it works fine i think you just gotta get used to it
floral solstice
high intensity missions are really not made for surge staff it seems
Wot
cyan notch
I've seen so many people saying quietude works with passive quelling, but I have...
it does though youre probably doing something wrong
orchid venture
so the mission I was doing was that repair mission, where theres an absolute constant flood of enemies while you're trying to kill corruptors, right?
it was just a terrible idea to bring out a surge staff at any point at all during that sequence unless my teammates burned away all the trash
and even then, there's always one more behind you
floral solstice
well yeah, why would you use surge on trash hordes except for when you want to go high peril to do passive quell + quietitude
orchid venture
I wanted to get to high peril so I could quell with quietude.
cyan notch
if youre behind teammates sure if not just go kill some trash with melee
floral solstice
so spam cast a couple of times and switch back to melee
steel egret
I use quietitude in any difficulty, if there is no quell time you often can melee or F or use staff quell for a short period.
fierce sinew
just switch to your axe and push cut for a bit
orchid venture
maybe it was my chainsword is why I had such a difficult time, but i dont have an Antax with brutal momentum yet, so I dont have much better for taking care of hoards
steel egret
Y
orchid venture
it's heavy arc isn't wide enough for what I'm used to I guess
floral solstice
high intensity missions are really not made for surge staff it seems
Ngl at first I thought you meant literal, high-intensity modifier missions here lol
Because I breeze through high intensity t5 just fine with surge
orchid venture
oh no no, it's great for that, i forgot that was a thing for a sec lol
but like, missions with constant floods of trash is what I'm talking about
cyan notch
surge is fine u just gotta get used to the playstyle
floral solstice
If you dont like chainsword maybe give dueling/claw sword a try
cyan notch
you cant just use surge all the time
orchid venture
I would use either of those, if the game would give me a decent one
floral solstice
Well checking the shop is the game's current endgame for a reason kek
fierce sinew
it's also potentially a teamcomp issue
if nobody is equipped for horde clear/knows that's their role you can have a bad time with surge
olive ember
you cant just use surge all the time
Yes I can reee
orchid venture
I've got... a 350 modifier mk1 devils claw, but mk1 feels... unresponsive
it's got a strange slowness, i can't really describe it
floral solstice
Try mk 4, cleave combo is pretty straightforward and the overhead spam for single targets is surprisingly good
Devastating strike/shred
My psyker doesn't have that exact combo (only shred and some other crap) but it melts hordes just fine
Meanwhile my zealot does and ive used it on t5 high intensity too
floral solstice
well jusy pray to emprah harder
orchid venture
im not even on damnation, just trying to get my last penance on Heresy still
floral solstice
I've been playing since beta and I still dont have a god roll antax 5
Just keep checking shop 
orchid venture
my zealot has one, but it has to just sit there and rot while I level my other classes and get their earnable cosmetics
floral solstice
give it to me
now
hadron griefs all my 2nd bless consecrates
now i just save my 370-380 base weaps until crafting is out
my psyker clearing high intensity w/ claw 4 and surge
it's only baross tho
orchid venture
it's not even that good of a roll, but god Damn does it shred through everything
it was a gift from the emperor when I got it
floral solstice
that's not bad, damage should be higher than cleave targets imo but still pretty decent
glacial totem
would a trash force sword be worth running if it has level 3 deflector on it?
floral solstice
uhh I personally wouldn't
prisma lichen
I feel mostly limited by RNG. Currently running Surge + Force Sword.
I want to run Purgatus, but the only stave I've gotten with reasonably good rolls is this one and that was ages ago.
glacial totem
yeah not thinking i want to - bu wasnt sure
floral solstice
but up to you if you really want or need deflector
orchid venture
it's really that good on zealot, veteran, And psyker
glossy escarp
Big chonky one
floral solstice
I feel mostly limited by RNG. Currently running Surge + Force Sword.
I want to...
your purg isn't even that bad, you can start running that
prisma lichen
your purg isn't even that bad, you can start running that
The quell is arse though.
glossy escarp
It's still a staff
floral solstice
yeah, still usable with the decent burn and radius
glossy escarp
It'll fuck no matter what
floral solstice
if you literally have nothing else
glossy escarp
Try it in the psyk if you're really unsure but it should be fine tbh
orchid venture
if you can get one with brutal momentum, it's really night and day as opposed to having one without it
prisma lichen
if you literally have nothing else
I'm doing a lot better with Surge atm. I find that I get overrun and have to melee more on Purgatus whereas Surge keeps them at bay more than long enough for bots or my team to wipe the horde.
floral solstice
Is the axe really that good on psyker?
god roll axe is good on any of the 3 classes even vet
floral solstice
antax mk 5 seems to be the most popular choice, and for a good reason
I run mk 2 atrox on my psyker because all mky mk 5's are ass, also decent for hordes
orchid venture
man, i do really think hadron's concecration costs way too much
that's like 7-8 difficult runs while collecting everything you can find to get the slim chance to upgrade a weapon to be not terrible
floral solstice
more like, the ratio of plasteel to diamanthine we spend is bs
i honestly dont mind higher plasteel costs if we can dismantle weapons for plasteel
but i'm sure it's immeasurably complex
orchid venture
they could reduce the plasteel cost by half and I'd be satisfied honestly
alright, I have 5 missions left until I hit 100. thats 5 missions to try and get malleus minestrone
i think tomorrow I'll try out the LFG thing, see if people wana do some penances
rocky cedar
I would like a base amount of plasteel and diamante granted just for completing a level with the amount based on difficulty
Would also make you feel less pushed into checking everywhere in the level for mats
floral solstice
I would like a base amount of plasteel and diamante granted just for completing ...
you mean you don't like getting 40 plasteel after clearing t5 enclavum baross, regardless of modifier?
rocky cedar
Crazy I know
floral solstice
so now we start running malice speedruns to farm plasteel
then the newer players wonder why we're speedrunning
rocky cedar
Not if they gave big enough modifiers for Heresy and Damnation
floral solstice
you'd think that we'd get higher amounts of plasteel considering its higher costs
rocky cedar
Well you do get more currently, just still not enough and too prone to RNG swings
Also most people don't want to try to full loot
prisma lichen
So I just chain cleared dozens of Malice runs with my Surge, but my first run with Purgatus and I get overrun before the first monstrosity fight. Not sure what I'm doing wrong.
M1 to stagger and spread fire, melee with force sword as needed, M2 with short bursts if my team is in a good position and holding the line.
vagrant cedar
you struggle clearing waves with purge on 3rd diff?
still hearth
Your M1 doesn't spread out just fyi
prisma lichen
Surge stops pretty much everything in its tracks and the brain burst from overload gets me tons of kill spam. Purgatus doesn't seem to stagger as well.
still hearth
It's just the initial shot that will do anything.
prisma lichen
you struggle clearing waves with purge on 3rd diff?
Absolutely. I really don't feel it works as well for me as Surge and I don't know why.
vagrant cedar
Absolutely. I really don't feel it works as well for me as Surge and I don't kn...
you see the wave coming, you charge the right click
you unleash it, the wave should die
prisma lichen
you see the wave coming, you charge the right click
Yup, and then I have a pile of flaming mobs on top of me.
vagrant cedar
dash backwards while charging again, repeat
vagrant cedar
Yup, and then I have a pile of flaming mobs on top of me.
show your staff
prisma lichen
vagrant cedar
i can clear waves with similar staff on damnation
prisma lichen
i can clear waves with similar staff on damnation
Full charge every time?
vagrant cedar
unless you do not hold the aim at the wave
and you just fling about
as in do 360 or something
the staff adds DOTs, 1 dot per 0.3s
so you add 3 dots per 1s more or less
full charge is like ~9-10 i think
if you streamed the game, i could tell you what you're doing wrong
cause you should be able to solo clear waves on 3rd diff
still hearth
- Primary fire doesn't spread so you have to spam it to stagger more than a single line.
- Secondary fire should stagger normal horde mobs enough that they won't hit you before you can charge again.
- Stick with at least one teammate as a shield and make sure to check behind between charged uses
vagrant cedar
Full charge every time?
join the vc, i'll show you if yo uwant
floral solstice
Bruh a zealot died solo to a plague ogryn on my current run
vagrant cedar
guess he learned how to use the purge staff
prisma lichen
Trying it
burnt moth
#traumaforcegang
vagrant cedar
right click -> full charge -> hold at the wave -> when no charge left -> dash back while right click holding/charging it again -> unleash the charge
only problem you are gonna have is like 2-3 enemies
ogres and that full metal one
burnt moth
just pull out the lightsaber
vagrant cedar
i pref mk 5
will probably be the best melee for another 5 years till they add new stuff
burnt moth
NOT THE QUELL SPEED
cyan notch
melts my eyes too
burnt moth
i got one with similar warp resistance
cyan notch
what a flashbang of a ss
vagrant cedar
i think res is better cause you can purge more, especially if you stacked talents towards it
i can spam all day long
are you carrying the team now @prisma lichen
prisma lichen
Hardly. I'm having specific issues with elites that I used to be able to just lock down with Surge and now I have to actively dodge them 🙂
vagrant cedar
Hardly. I'm having specific issues with elites that I used to be able to just l...
send me your steam friend code
prisma lichen
Just cleared another Malice, but it's a lot sweatier.
vagrant cedar
i'll join the game and show you
orchid venture
I think it's actually pretty important to have a high quell speed percentage
But I'm the lucky sob that got a purge staff with high rolls on everything except damage, which is the dump stat anyways
wheat quartz
This feels like the warp resistance barely matters (peril gen 19.65 vs theoretical 18.5 at 80 on the tooltip)
That number is probably not absolute, but the proportional difference is only 6.2%
fierce sinew
You also get to stack warp resistance via a feat for purg, which isn't the case for quell speed
hoary copper
But I'm the lucky sob that got a purge staff with high rolls on everything excep...
is dmg a dumpstat? arent breakpoints important?
mighty pike
is dmg a dumpstat? arent breakpoints important?
Damage is a dump stat on purgatus because it's a variable of 3. Burn does the great majority of the damage inflicted
deft fiber
is dmg a dumpstat? arent breakpoints important?
DMG important only for Void.
And even then it's kinda workable around.
ornate hamlet
it melts everything
@wheat quartz
cyan notch
4% crit
ornate hamlet
i prefer quell speed over warp resist, because quietitude
cyan notch
5%
ornate hamlet
not sure if it's even worth rerolling for 1% more
cyan notch
it should be free
ornate hamlet
do items run out of how many times you can reroll?
cyan notch
no
ornate hamlet
hm ok
idle bay
It costs 99 Diamantine and 299 Plasteel until you hit free rerolls
cyan notch
yea that probably
idle bay
Probably bribed Hadron with WD-40 flask
ornate hamlet
he owes me for putting run n gun on all my staves anyway
cold geode
she
ornate hamlet
pronouns pfft
idle bay
It's mostly irrelevant with AdMech anyway
ornate hamlet
this has nice stats, very similar to mine, missing warp nexus tho
gentle portal
Are Joust/Celestine/Cahan in here by any chance? Just played a good damnation game w/ 3 psykers but the in-game social tools are such shit I can't figure out how to add them as friends... (I'm Coldstacks in game)
deft fiber
Try to take a look at "Previous games". Not sure if it even work tho.
cyan notch
Are Joust/Celestine/Cahan in here by any chance? Just played a good damnation g...
i remember playing with a celestine a couple of games ago but i thought that was a default randomised name lol
ornate hamlet
Are Joust/Celestine/Cahan in here by any chance? Just played a good damnation g...
go to steam, click VIEW in top left, click PLAYERS
then click "current game" or "recent games" to find them
deft fiber
yeah, Celestine is too generic. Like i saw 3 of them at the same time.
cyan notch
theres quite a few people who use the default names so its pretty hard to tell
ornate hamlet
lol.. what an axe
gentle portal
go to steam, click VIEW in top left, click PLAYERS
Tried that, no one there under current or recent...
gentle portal
i remember playing with a celestine a couple of games ago but i thought that was...
Haha maybe it is, idk
Anyway it was a good group, maybe I'll find em somehow
balmy zealot
steel egret
I have very similiar 380 but with nexus.
idle bay
dude force sword sucks
Unless you are running Deflector build and then Force sword seves very different purpose
split oxide
ForceSword against hordes. (movement-set)
It's a 'quality of life' thing.
- you can jump in and nuke a single elite
- the rest of the 90% of the game, you wish you had an axe (or two bodygyards) in every encounter.
split oxide
Unless you are running Deflector build and then Force sword seves very differen...
Deflector is good - but a sign your team failed.
ABK - always be killing.
ornate hamlet
Unless you are running Deflector build and then Force sword seves very differen...
fatshark nerfed psyker across every trait, even force sword was nerfed
idle bay
Deflector is good - but a sign your team failed.
ABK - always be killing.
I always assume that random team i matched with will have some kind of failing.
idle bay
Force Sword is bugged - if you are low on stamina Kinetic Deflection (and Deflector blessing) will not work
ornate hamlet
literally everything was nerfed on psyker, every aspect of the class lol
including force sword
so just use axe bro
it hits hard af and has good pen
split oxide
I always assume that random team i matched with will have some kind of failing.
absolutely true 😦
I've been doing Flawless Execution for the longest time... the number of times the fk off to hunt Script/Grim (when the mission doesn't have any)
- view of my team (name-markers on differnt parts of the map)
idle bay
Psykers get nerfs ™
ornate hamlet
i still haven't messed around with duelling but i probably wouldn't like it more than axe
cyan notch
aint that big a deal anyway since you can run whatever
idle bay
absolutely true 😦
I've been doing Flawless Execution for the longest time... th...
I did Flawless Execution ( 15 runs) on Ogryn automatically without thinking on Heresy runs with randoms
it's that easy on big guy
cyan notch
its personal preference and if u like axe go ahead but other people prefer other things
ornate hamlet
of all the bad players i run into, Ogryn are most of them Wyck, vets are 2nd common bad players
most of the crap players are playing ogryn for sure
clear heath
Ogryns go down a lot in my experience
at least they're taking advantage of that extra wound they have
split oxide
I did Flawless Execution ( 15 runs) on Ogryn automatically without thinking on H...
:/ psyker is my main
ornate hamlet
and when you run into those players who are always lagging behind and never catching up with the group, you'd think they'd be psykers but NOPE they're vets almost every time
split oxide
and when you run into those players who are always lagging behind and never catc...
Zealots with lasguns hanging at the back
idle bay
I don't understand how people fail to play Ogryn - easiest class to play. It takes a deliberate effort to fail as Ogryn.
As Psyker main i switch to Ogryn sometimes to do chill Heresy runs
cyan notch
well theyre a pretty big target and are pretty bad at dealing with ranged compared to others
ornate hamlet
i rarely see bad zealot players honestly
split oxide
I don't understand how people fail to play Ogryn - easiest class to play. It tak...
As a N00b, I didn' know the map - so I didn't want to play ogryn.
- i have 4 leaf clover now - but I'm still trying to memorize the grim/scrip locations.
idle bay
Even if your team sucks ass - as Ogryn you can carry a trash team
clear heath
imo ogryn is the worst class
cyan notch
if they had a precision ranged weapon that isnt just spamming grenade gauntlet it would be cool
idle bay
Just don't fall into a Shield Trap - it's worst weapon for Ogryn .. even worse than Kickback
ornate hamlet
As a N00b, I didn' know the map - so I didn't want to play ogryn.
- i have 4 lea...
this isn't vermintide, they're pretty random
idle bay
Latrine Shovel/Mk III Cleaver/Paul (power maul) + Grenade Gauntlet - and you can deal with anything
split oxide
this isn't vermintide, they're pretty random
the locations HAVE been mapped.
ornate hamlet
there's no point to that, you want to search the other areas for other mats anyway bro
clear heath
if they had a precision ranged weapon that isnt just spamming grenade gauntlet i...
I actually think ogryn ranged weapons are fine.
I just think their melee isn't good enough despite their entire feat tree emphasizing close ranged combat
ornate hamlet
I actually think ogryn ranged weapons are fine.
I just think their melee isn't g...
i'm in agreement.
zealot > ogryn
clear heath
At best it's like... balanced
...if they were a regular sized character
...while the other classes have actual broken shit
ornate hamlet
the only thing i like about ogryn is being able to carry items and move faster while doing so
everything else about the class is doo doo
clear heath
like we look at ogryn being a melee class and vet laughs with their power sword
or zealot with their 75% crit dr
idle bay
I actually think ogryn ranged weapons are fine.
I just think their melee isn't g...
Melee weapons are good - With Cleaver you delete eveything in seconds on massive scale.. save for Bulwarks and Crushers, with Shovel you delete everything a bit slower, but can easily brutalise Bulwarks and Crushers
ornate hamlet
Ogryn not being immune to damage while charging unlike Zealot is pretty rough.
ornate hamlet
the **only** thing i like about ogryn is being able to carry items and move fast...
Unless they remove slide carrying this is a non-benefit
ornate hamlet
Unless they remove slide carrying this is a non-benefit
nobody slide carries
deft fiber
the **only** thing i like about ogryn is being able to carry items and move fast...
Meanwhile sliding while carry item and move as fast as ogryn
clear heath
The other classes have abusable broken shit
Meanwhile ogryns are like actually balanced except with the additional downside of being massive
ornate hamlet
Cover doesn't work most of the time but for Ogryns there is no cover
Ogryns need to be stagger immune imo
Zealot having TWBS to ignore stagger is huge.
cyan notch
i dont really know what ogryns bring besides i guess dealing with enemy ogryns
split oxide
I don't not everyone is experienced:
I still have to tell people about
- slide carry
- shield-special.
ornate hamlet
If you play Damnation and you don't do these things.
KICKED
JK I suffer through newbies
why play damnation at all
Because I enjoy suffering.
idle bay
Revolver - KICKED
Knife - KICKED
Straight to jail ™
cyan notch
its fun sometimes
ornate hamlet
Revolver - KICKED
Knife - KICKED
Straight to jail ™
Psyker - KICKED
true, you shouldn't even play psyker on damnation
split oxide
Psyker - KICKED
brutal - but fair.
wait --- WHAT?
idle bay
true, you shouldn't even play psyker on damnation
You should play with 4 Psykers on Damnation for maximum fun!
ornate hamlet
You should play with 4 Psykers on Damnation for maximum fun!
We did this and it was horrible.
clear heath
Psyker is fine on damnation
ornate hamlet
You should play with 4 Psykers on Damnation for maximum fun!
4 psyker is actually fun on other difficulties, but not damnation
The Psychic Communion meme wasn't as good as it sounded.
idle bay
We did this and it was horrible.
It's not about being good - it's about suffering 🙂
ornate hamlet
It's not about being good - it's about suffering 🙂
We certainly suffered.
idle bay
Good!
ornate hamlet
I think it could be fun and it did make me feel that Quicken has a purpose
Not a good purpose but it was fun to get shout back the moment I shouted
If Quicken also doubled quell it would actually be a good feat 
split oxide
Is 'shovel' making a comeback?
idle bay
There is a bug that allows to use Ult twice in a row, when first use does not spend a charge
ornate hamlet
There is a bug that allows to use Ult twice in a row, when first use does not s...
I love that basically all classes have this
Zealot can get ult back and its even possible to recreate, but its not reliable
I got it to work maybe 30% of the time in Psykarnum
compact cargo
Tbh anything but Vet and Zealot on Damnation.
forgor ogryn
ornate hamlet
forgor ogryn
No, no I did not.
clear heath
ogryn too fat
covert ermine
damn psyker is so weak. tried to play it after zealot and guardsman and this is so bad almost useless
clear heath
ogryn bad class
compact cargo
ogryn bad class
We have 3 spots like that for grimd
split oxide
damn psyker is so weak. tried to play it after zealot and guardsman and this is ...
Psyker is not supposed to be strong - it's designed to be a glass canon I think
- slowest movement
- attack patterns are very (direction/target/duration) specific
covert ermine
ITS NOT A CANNON ITS JUST GLASS
ornate hamlet
Psyker is more like a crappy glass sniper rifle with a sonic boom every 30s
idle bay
ITS NOT A CANNON ITS JUST GLASS
Not Glass! A Dried old rice paper!
covert ermine
Yes very bad ...
ornate hamlet
I think maybe running 4 Ascendent Blaze would be more effective with the Psychic Communion memes.
idle bay
Though technically invulnerable at certain conditions, but still old dried rice paper
ornate hamlet
Psyker is not supposed to be strong - it's designed to be a glass canon I think
...
Psyker and slowest movement ???
covert ermine
I mean peril block is fine but WHAT ABOUT DAMAGE???
idle bay
What damage ? 🙂
ornate hamlet
blocking is pointless
split oxide
Psyker and slowest movement ???
From the StartingPoint, Vets, Ogryns, Zealots always outpace you.
By first encounter you're at the back.,
clear heath
Peril block is useful for revives
ornate hamlet
From the StartingPoint, Vets, Ogryns, Zealots always outpace you.
By first encou...
If you run the meme sword I guess
Run superior Duelling Sword and slide past those slowpokes
split oxide
WTF is a peril block.
ornate hamlet
you guys act as if using peril block to revive people is important, yet i bet not a single one of you run any curios with revive speed on them
idle bay
Psyker reviving without peril block is dead
ornate hamlet
It's when I block your peril.
clear heath
There is no glass cannon
We are glass support
ornate hamlet
you guys act as if using peril block to revive people is important, yet i bet no...
Saves me a curio perk to run stamina regen
cyan notch
you guys act as if using peril block to revive people is important, yet i bet no...
u dont need revive speed to revive tho
ornate hamlet
u dont need revive speed to revive tho
you don't need peril block either lol
psyker is usually better off keeping enemies OFF friendlies who are trying to revive
clear heath
I've saved plenty of damn runs with peril block revives
ornate hamlet
psyker is usually better off keeping enemies OFF friendlies who are trying to re...
What if you don't have friendlies that try to revive