psyker-class

[hoary shadow]

oo my ... :=

[digital narwhal]

Psychic Communion, instead of being a 4% chance at a Warp Charge for every enemy killed by you and/or allies on coherency, should be getting a Warp Charge for every 25 enemies killed by you and/or allies in Coherency.

[pliant junco]

how it work ? there is a pinned message or some stuff to see ?

[digital narwhal]

Less RNG, more Objectivity.

[pliant junco]

ty

[cyan notch]

yea look at the top pin and scroll to psyker

[still hearth]

Yeah but this is RNG the game

[digital narwhal]

:(

Still though, Psyker is way too reliant on RNG.

It feels bad.

[gilded cloud]

Is there any list or collection somewhere (with images) of all the available psyker cosmetics that you can buy in game without real money?

[digital narwhal]

Psyker would feel better with more player agency.

[still hearth]

I don't run any of the RNG feats and I feel fine

The 10% to quell 10% is kinda stupid as a passive tbf

But otherwise it seems okay

[digital narwhal]

Still doesn't change the fact that those Talents exist.

[still hearth]

Zealots:become unkillable
Psykers: Sometimes I get easier resource management

[cyan notch]

saved me from blowing up with purg a couple times tbh im holding my hands out halfway exploding suddenly my peril drops from adds burning

[still hearth]

Every class has bad feats (even Vet)

[gilded cloud]

Oh I chose the toughness regen on % of peril quelled since it was consistent and not RNG

[pale crescent]

This is the highest staff ive seen in weeks. Should I grab it?

[still hearth]

But you can trigger all of them without RNG

[digital narwhal]

Zealots: Unkillable
Ogryns: Behemoths that can crowd control entire hordes in melee and come out unscathed
Veterans: Veterans
Psyker: "I have to use my Talents to fix my Iconics and Passives :D"

[deft fiber]

Warp res kinda bad. But if you haven't any better.

[pale crescent]

warp rep super bad 😦

[digital narwhal]

I'd say grab it if ya don't have anything better

100% worth it if you don't have better.

[pale crescent]

RNGemperor hates me lol

[still hearth]

It is funny sometimes when you suddenly go from 90% peril to 0

[digital narwhal]

Same; I've only ever gotten one good staff.

And even then-

It gave me Run 'n' Gun as the 2nd Blessing

So I'm just waiting for crafting :')

[cyan notch]

arent we all

[still hearth]

Just Run n Gun

[cyan notch]

meanwhile fatshark is afk

[still hearth]

Run 'n' Charge when

[slow karma]

They're not afk, they're just working

[cyan notch]

you can run and charge with surge

[gilded cloud]

Oh I was remembering them wrong. Oops but yeah, I didn't know which first feat was best. Is there a consensus?

[slow karma]

Really dunno why they haven't said much though. It's strange.

[still hearth]

I use the quell one since it's the most consistent for long range and works with all staffs

[cyan notch]

highly depends on your staff and preference

you aint gonna do shit with warp absorption with surge

[still hearth]

Toughness on kill seems okay on void or purge but if you're purging everything should be dead after so you can quell

[gilded cloud]

When it says stacks 5 times... What makes it stack?

[still hearth]

And the quell one lets you swap to normie melee and regen toughness

[gilded cloud]

Why's that? I have not used surge staff yet so idk

[mighty pike]

They've all been on holiday and have a new community manager and she's still in training and they don't know what they need to talk about yet

[still hearth]

It doesn't kill anything

[cyan notch]

cuz its a cc staff and kills slowly

[short scarab]

Worth 2565 Melk's credits knowing I don't have any deflector sword yet ?

[mighty pike]

Seems relatively good

[still hearth]

Do it

[cyan notch]

if u dont have a deflector sure

[gilded cloud]

Oh so when it says psychic powers that includes BB, staff primary attack, and staff secondary attack?

[short scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/adam-sandler-billy-madison-funny-insult-just-do-it-gif-15340470

ok !

[gilded cloud]

Does it include force swords?

[round jay]

Only charged attack form force sword

[still hearth]

Worst case you can potentially move Deflector onto a better Fsword with rebless later

[pale crescent]

https://tenor.com/view/shrug-gif-25269231

[short scarab]

good point ! didnt think about it

[still hearth]

I've yet to see a Deflector.

[round jay]

Are we even sure we’ll be able to do that?

[still hearth]

No, but it's still an okay Fsword

[digital narwhal]

It's definitely good.
Perks could be better, but it's not bad at all.

I'd say swap out +Unyielding on it and keep +Elite

[still hearth]

1v1 bosses with your force sword u coward

[digital narwhal]

1v1ing bosses is cooler with a Chainsword

[gilded cloud]

Why do I always see ppl say to use the lasgun? Why not autogun?

[digital narwhal]

or a Thunderhammer

[digital narwhal]

Because Autoguns could be

better.

[still hearth]

One of the lasguns is pretty busted

The only good autogun is the agrip braced auto

[mighty pike]

Mk. 12 is the commonly accepted best gun in the game

[still hearth]

The others are mid

[mighty pike]

Agripiina 1 is "good"

[cyan notch]

we dont have braced autos and the infantry ones are mid and eat up ammo which we dont have

[digital narwhal]

^

[still hearth]

Yeah Psyker's fycked

[digital narwhal]

I still feel like we should get Braced Autoguns.
Autoguns feel like the standard for guns.

[still hearth]

Should've more staves

[digital narwhal]

So taking one of those from us feels bad.

[mighty pike]

Give us back the shotgun

[still hearth]

Zealots not getting recon lasguns for.. Reasons

[digital narwhal]

Yeeaahh

Psykers getting Shotguns in the Beta, but not in Release.

[still hearth]

Idk why they make semi exclusive weapons

[digital narwhal]

Also, Psyker using the Heavy Sword in the Psyker Spotlight.

[still hearth]

That's so weird

[pliant junco]

in wich way ?

[still hearth]

RNGesus take the wheel

All other classes get consistent passives

[mighty pike]

What about: every 1 kill you gain 10 points out of 100 to losing 10% of your peril

[still hearth]

Or just 10% peril resistance

They're already making subclasses eventually

[mighty pike]

That would be preferable

Want a war psyker

[shadow onyx]

more consistent than the impact one on zealot imo

[still hearth]

At least it's working as intended

[shadow onyx]

the 10 % quell not working as intened?

[still hearth]

I meant other Zealot feats

[shadow onyx]

oh

hehe

[still hearth]

Does Psyker have a feat that doesn't work as intended in a way that makes it worse?

[shadow onyx]

tbh the 10% quell feat saved me bunch of time

[still hearth]

Yeah the passive sometimes clutches and it's actually not bad

[shadow onyx]

especialy with big killing staves

like flame or void

[still hearth]

But it's just RNG for no reason basically

[shadow onyx]

like locked perk thing?

[still hearth]

I notice it mostly when using BB

[shadow onyx]

[uncut hamlet]

I notice it a lot when I run purge and theres a horde

[still hearth]

Sometimes you get a free BB at 90%+

[uncut hamlet]

lets me almost endlessly cast

[digital narwhal]

This should be the standard replacement for Psyker's RNG Talents.
Convert the Percentages to Kill Goals.

[still hearth]

Oh yeah. But then everyone else starts to take your kills

[mighty pike]

That's just objectively worse though no? Cause then you can only get it every 10

[digital narwhal]

Consistency is better than Potential.

[stray pond]

Yellow hitmarkers represent crits, right?

[still hearth]

[digital narwhal]

Yes

[still hearth]

50% chance to crit or a crit every 2 attacks

[stray pond]

Blazing Spirit definitely does not apply soul blaze one every crit then.

[digital narwhal]

Crit Chance is different lol

[stray pond]

It's more like a chance to apply soul blaze on crit

[still hearth]

It's basically the same concept tho

[digital narwhal]

Same concept, different context

What works for one thing doesn't always work for another

[shadow onyx]

i feel so harmless against shooter as psy

:'

even with op force sword

[still hearth]

Sometimes confirmed 10% quell is worse than 10% per kill

But yeah

[digital narwhal]

Honestly, open with a Brain Burst, and then pop your Ability with Kinetic Barrage, and then spam kill with the faster Brain Burst

[digital narwhal]

I'd still argue in favour of consistency

[shadow onyx]

i have the soulburn one because i play flamer

[digital narwhal]

Player agency is better than percentage chances imo

Ah

[still hearth]

Just BB from cover is the best anti shooter play

[digital narwhal]

Fair

[shadow onyx]

yeah im tired of being alone with surge and cant do shit

[digital narwhal]

At that point, it's a skill issue on your teammates part if they're not keeping shooters in check.

[still hearth]

Well it's not that much agency. If it charged your F quell instead though

[shadow onyx]

• surge is boring af to play

imo

[digital narwhal]

Actually, that'd be great

[still hearth]

Getting to pop 100% quell would be dope yeah

[digital narwhal]

Reducing Ability Cooldown for every 10 kills with Warp Attacks

Or that

Adding to the Quell Amount

(Psuedo Unnerf)

lmao

[still hearth]

I didn't play Psyker in beta

What was it like with SUCH POWER

[digital narwhal]

Psyker Quelled 100% with F in Beta

And Brain Burst was a lot better

[digital narwhal]

Felt playable

[shadow onyx]

bb was so much cheaper :'

[digital narwhal]

[still hearth]

Imagine nerfing the worst class

[shadow onyx]

it was a fair nerf because spamming bb is cancer

[still hearth]

BB should have its charge time based on how much HP the target has

And always oneshot

[cyan notch]

no

[still hearth]

[digital narwhal]

Brain Burst base needs to be brought to Kinetic Barrage level in terms of charge time, and keep Kinetic Barrage as is after that, so further reduction.
Peril Cost should be 33% or something too, not 45%.

[still hearth]

Plague Ogryn: 5min charge

[shadow onyx]

just accel the charge time but keep the big peril income

and make surge or another staff anti shooter

to fill the gap

[still hearth]

Voidstrike?

[digital narwhal]

Voidstrike is a General Purpose staff

Surge would fit better as Anti Shooter

[shadow onyx]

do voidtrike travel through covers?

[digital narwhal]

No

It only penetrates entities

[shadow onyx]

so surge is anti shooter

[floral solstice]

Nah that would be busted

[shadow onyx]

its already busted

[still hearth]

Would it though

[digital narwhal]

Yes

[floral solstice]

Im talking about void through cover lol

[digital narwhal]

Cover is a big part of the game

[floral solstice]

Also just kinetic barrage to thin out stuff too

[digital narwhal]

You shouldn't be able to ignore it with big damage projectiles

[still hearth]

For enemies*

[digital narwhal]

Yeah even for enemies

You have to play around enemies that have better positioning

[still hearth]

No as in mostly enemies benefit from it lol

[digital narwhal]

Ah

Fair

But still

[shadow onyx]

surge is overhyped imo

the stun is neat but you can do shit against big horde at close range + flame can already stun lock almost everything except mutants

[still hearth]

Idk why most cover lets you be chipped over

[shadow onyx]

and i find dogs far more dangerous

[digital narwhal]

Surge is a safety net for the team vs priority targets

And brings breathing room vs smaller groups of enemies

[cyan notch]

not a group of shotgunners tho

[still hearth]

What does trauma do

[digital narwhal]

Trauma sucks ass

[floral solstice]

That's why you bring horde clear melee

[digital narwhal]

That's what it does

[still hearth]

[digital narwhal]

Fr though, Trauma needs it's hurtbox adjusted

[shadow onyx]

prtty sure i can stunlock them with secondary

or i will be dead so many time if not

[digital narwhal]

One of them steps away and suddenly you're Shotgunner stunlocked

[cyan notch]

nah they blast you through it

[still hearth]

Shotgunners can technically be suppressed though iirc

[shadow onyx]

idk i often yolo and face them with secondary + aggro and i dont get rekt

[digital narwhal]

Not Dreg Shotgunners.
It's kinda impossible to suppress Dregs rn

[still hearth]

So as long as no one has triggered their suppression immunity its possible

[still hearth]

Dreg Stalkers 3.5s suppression immunity

[cyan notch]

ive tried it many times i just get shotgunned anyway even with a full stream of fire in their face

[shadow onyx]

• at the end just dodge + ult they are gone in 2 sec

[digital narwhal]

This is why I've found some more love for Kinetic Barrage;
Open with BB on a Shotgunner, than blast them down and kill them with the faster BB as they get up

[still hearth]

The issue with suppression is mostly that some enemies become immune for way too long

[cyan notch]

im just talking about the "flame can stun lock everything except mutants"

and you cant stun crushers at all or maulers that well

[shadow onyx]

suppression making shooter finding cover

so they can hide and scatter

[still hearth]

Suppression at range is literally a detriment most of the time and I love it

It's so fun

[shadow onyx]

masochist

😏

[digital narwhal]

I feel like a nice chance to Trauma

would be to fix it's hurtbox

and then give the blast some heavy suppression

[cyan notch]

they are suppressed if theyre on the floor

[still hearth]

Trauma should just

Kill everything

Bam

[digital narwhal]

on the map

instantly

[still hearth]

3k damage

[digital narwhal]

1 shot

[still hearth]

Yes

Does trauma or voidstrike explosion trigger bursters

[digital narwhal]

Trauma pops Bursters incredibly well actually

That's kinda one of the only good things about it

[still hearth]

Well explosions are meant to instantly pop them

So that's why I was curious

If they count properly

[digital narwhal]

Not sure about Voidstrike

but Trauma 100% pops Bursters super easily

[still hearth]

Super easily or 100% even if uncharged?

[cyan notch]

pretty sure min charge pops em

even on damnation

[digital narwhal]

^

[still hearth]

So it counts as an explosion in that case

[shadow onyx]

any tips to get rid of this bug or just pray to not wait months before it get fixed

[still hearth]

Probably

[shadow onyx]

[stray pond]

It resolves itself once you get more plasteel

[west galleon]

Hehoo get got

[shadow onyx]

https://i.redd.it/ialx0mxf2v7a1.gif

[stray pond]

So just do a quick uprising mission or something to get a bit more plasteel and it'll work again

[shadow onyx]

ok ok

[digital narwhal]

https://tenor.com/view/hahaha-haha-funny-thats-that-gif-4676533

[stray pond]

Unrelated but what the hell is up with pox hounds today? I've done 3 missions and they all had obscene amounts of dogs, none of them had the pox hound modifier either

[shadow onyx]

[stray pond]

My last mission had like 17 dogs show up

It was fucking ridiculous

[shadow onyx]

same, worst than even a dog condition

[still hearth]

Fatshark secretly made every mission dogs

[stray pond]

It wouldn't surprise me if they somehow managed that

[shadow onyx]

FS :
what is the most broken and annoying special in the game? cool lets spam this in conditions

lel

[still hearth]

I played one with dogs condition on Damn and I swear we had 2-3 dogs constantly

Literally every corner

[shadow onyx]

no dog condition i had 4 dogs

same time

[still hearth]

I love dogs

[shadow onyx]

i hate poxdogs

i like dogs

[digital narwhal]

FatShark is unironically using us to bug test Pox Hounds right now, I 100% bet you.

[shadow onyx]

so blind even Ray Charles is more aware of what is going wrong with them

[still hearth]

[shadow onyx]

😏

even cosmetics are still not here

where is my plate chest

[stray pond]

Back to working on my 25 scrips weekly

[digital narwhal]

Crashed again :D

I wouldn't mind the crashes as much if the load times weren't so bloody long

[mighty pike]

what are you running it on?

[digital narwhal]

As in my Graphics Card?

[mighty pike]

SSD i mean

[cyan notch]

Gamer Chair Upholstery

[gilded cloud]

Install on an SSD. Much quicker

[mighty pike]

I'm using one from 2014 and my loads are like 30 seconds

[digital narwhal]

Ah

A lot of my SSD space was taken up already

But I have uninstalled some things since

Might uninstall and reinstall it onto my SSD now

[mighty pike]

I thought using only SSDs was a universal thing now

[gilded cloud]

You can just move it. No need to uninstall

[digital narwhal]

I have a lot of games.

[summer prairie]

This is pretty good since cleave targets seems essentially irrelevant

[digital narwhal]

How exactly?
(I haven't moved a game from my HDD to SSD before)

[gilded cloud]

Steam or game pass?

[digital narwhal]

Steam

[cyan notch]

affects cleave damage but yea mostly irrelevant

[summer prairie]

pretty sure it only affects cleave hit mass

[floral solstice]

bruh I've been trying to get something like that since beta, all my consecrates are busts...

[summer prairie]

even though the description makes it seem like it's also related to damage

I tested a 80 cleave targets one and the 2nd and 3rd target damage seemed the same

[cyan notch]

that doesnt really make sense

[summer prairie]

it does say "the higher the cleave, the more enemies you hit with one swing"

the other cleave stat affects damage though barely

[cyan notch]

i dont think a 0% roll will hit any less targets than an 80%

[summer prairie]

not with brutal momentum no

[cyan notch]

like a max one will hit 3

and what a 0% roll will hit 2?

i highly doubt that

[summer prairie]

I mean it could just be broken

or only affects some attacks

[cyan notch]

there isnt anywhere enough granularity with just cleaving hit mass to make the stat do anything

who knows it might be another thing on the mountains of things broken with the game that will get fixed in 6 months

[still hearth]

0% on Antax hits 1 groaner

But even a 1% should be enough to hit 2

[glass garden]

Anyone here have tips for getting going out with a bang done?

[stray pond]

I don't think I could've been more disappointed with this force sword's blessings

I like Unstable Power but...

[still hearth]

So with Ascendant Blaze you need 6 stacks to kill a poxwalker group witho no other damage

On Damnation

5 stacks leaves than at like 10% HP.

[summer prairie]

what if your weapon has +infested damage

[still hearth]

That does affect the DoT yes

But also

Why would you ever do that

[summer prairie]

yes but would 5 be enough then

[still hearth]

It definitely should

[summer prairie]

it probably wouldn't be bad on your melee anyway

[still hearth]

I think even the +8% against Groaners and Poxwalkers would work

[summer prairie]

but probably never enough with just 4 stacks right

it would be pretty nice if you could do that with e.g. +35% extra power vs horde on your melee

[still hearth]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/QWhor2Wo5sRl7/d1337JgU16WY?invite=cr-MSxKRU0sMTYwMDY1NDYwLA

+10% is the most you can get

I have no idea why groaners and poxwalkers are considered the same level as specialists and melee

[summer prairie]

well it would be +10 vs horde and +25% vs infested

so +35% vs poxwalkers

[still hearth]

But yeah +8% is barely not enough

Funny enough

If you get 1 warp charge

And have +8%

5 Stacks is enough DoT

But that's horrible so don't do that

4 stacks with +20% isn't even close to kill

Poxwalkers left with 92 hp

4 stacks is barely enough to kill groaners

[digital narwhal]

Do you guys think base Brain Burst should charge as fast as Kinetic Barrage Brain Burst?

[daring nexus]

How skrewed am I if my best force sword has 3 sprint efficiency and 4 damage to unyielding as it’s perks 🫣

[daring nexus]

Yes

[digital narwhal]

Very.

[still hearth]

Run fast

[daring nexus]

Which ones worse? I can’t even decide

[still hearth]

Sprint probably

[digital narwhal]

^

[still hearth]

Fsword has infinitely dodges anyway

[austere estuary]

my purgatus has 25% because the other roll was terrible, iirc

[still hearth]

Yeah that's fair

[austere estuary]

I'm glad it was at least max roll

also

guess I'll pick it up

[digital narwhal]

100%

[austere estuary]

I kinda like that the non mk1s do have a decent strikedown available to them

[still hearth]

Claw is pretty good

Not the best at anything but good

[austere estuary]

best at activating all stacks of shred in one swing

[still hearth]

That is true

[austere estuary]

if claw could get executor

that'd be sick

[night marten]

does crafting allow you to modify blessings yet?

[austere estuary]

nope

guess we'll hear something at some point

[night marten]

gotcha. will check back in after a month or two, thanks

[austere estuary]

I'm still buying things like this to hoard the blessings though

[summer prairie]

all the blessings that require "repeated" hits feel bad

except shred for specific uses i guess

[still hearth]

Why does

Trauma

Do less damage on the edges

WHAT

[digital narwhal]

There we go, moved Darktide to my SSD

Hopefully that should help

[shadow onyx]

it will you will take from 3 min to 1

for a freaking mourningstar hub

[digital narwhal]

Also, I realised earlier

that my Drivers weren't updated

and when I updated my Drivers, my Darktide was no longer grainy

I'm an idiot :)

[still hearth]

@sharp ibex @full kite r u guys prepared

[full kite]

im hongry

[still hearth]

Get food then

So I didn't get Deflector

But, uh

[shadow onyx]

dont forget force sword have infinite dodge

so mobility is not so garbage

[still hearth]

Just spam dodge

But Shred T4

[shadow onyx]

perfect

replace procognition for deflector in 4 mnths

wen update

and al dent

[digital narwhal]

Fuck.

If only the Modifiers weren't so bad.

[still hearth]

Hey Psyker chat

Do you want to join some infinite shout memes

It will be fun

4 Psykers

[sharp ibex]

I eatin mah sausage rolls

[mighty pike]

infinite shout?

[still hearth]

Everyone runs this except 1 person

Which runs 15-2 and 30-2

[mighty pike]

O

[still hearth]

Lewd.

[mighty pike]

I'll come?

Also can help do penances if anyone needs

[full kite]

nice

[still hearth]

Sure you can add me

[mighty pike]

is the number in your username your steam profile code?

[full kite]

yes

[still hearth]

Ye

[mighty pike]

im EU idk if that matters

[magic burrow]

Ive seen a video of a zealot showcasing that the shred debuff works with guns too. You hit it with the shred melee, switch to gun, then unload the gun and basically turn the entire clip into crits

wonder if that works with staves too, or if the debuff doesnt last long enough to charge up a secondary

[stray pond]

Hey so, do Surge Force staff crits actually work? Because I'm checking critical bonus for the Surge Force staff and uh

It's listed as melee crit chance, which to me doesn't quite seem right

[cyan notch]

its a typo

its not melee

[stray pond]

It's copypasted you mean, it's directly copied from I think the tactical axe

Part of why I'm having to ask if the crit chance applies correctly because I really do not have that much faith in Fatshark

[clear heath]

darktide and incorrect descriptions
name a more iconic duo

[stray pond]

Awww now I'm disappointed. Turns out this blessing on the Force Sword has an incorrect description.

It's not on critical hit, it's on melee critical hit

Which even then it doesn't apply on every crit so it's still not quite right

Seems more like a chance to apply Soulblaze on crit

I was trying to see if I could get a funny build going with this Force Sword in my back pocket and a Surge staff, it doesn't work the way I hoped at all

[cyan notch]

i dont think thats an incorrect description if it only applies to melee lol

[clear heath]

wdym only applies to melee?

[stray pond]

Excuse the fuck

It works for you??

It's not apply soulblaze with crit for me

[clear heath]

???

[stray pond]

Yeah I'm in the meat grinder at this exact moment and it ain't

[clear heath]

i've never seen it not apply after critting

You sure you have the right weapon equipped?

[cyan notch]

cheat

[stray pond]

100% sure

[clear heath]

Maybe only t4 is broken?

[stray pond]

No soulblaze

[cyan notch]

bruh

[stray pond]

And yeah maybe, let me try with my T3 Blazing Spirit

[summer prairie]

are you swapping to your sword

[lethal folio]

You don't have the blessing if you aren't holding the sword.

[stray pond]

Not workin' even when I swap to the sword, I think my game is just a bit cursed

[summer prairie]

you have to be pretty quick

[cyan notch]

probably too slow

[clear heath]

You gotta swap to the sword before the lightning attack ends

[stray pond]

Yeah that's easy to do

[clear heath]

I've had it happen pretty often in actual games too

[stray pond]

Lemme just...

I just had 3 melee crits not apply soulblaze

[cyan notch]

no!!!! u cant use fs with surge!!! you must use antax!!

[stray pond]

A'ight

I think that either my client doesn't like Blazing Spirit or the blessing itself is a wee bit buggy

[magic burrow]

can soulblaze crits apply soulblaze if you have the weapon out?

[lethal folio]

Dots don't crit.

[stray pond]

Hm actually I think I see what it is

Critical weak spot hits don't apply soulblaze from the looks of it? Which is weird?

Annnd now they are

[summer prairie]

surge void strike blazing spirit swap for 8 stacks of soulblaze (probably not)

[stray pond]

What the hell is this inconsistency

It's just flopping between not applying Soulblaze at all and applying it perfectly I don't get it

[clear heath]

could you record it not working?

I've never seen it not apply soublaze on melee crit

[stray pond]

It happens to me a lot in missions

In the meat grinder it's usually pretty consistent except for sometimes weak spot criticals

[digital narwhal]

Going from Purgatus to a good Voidstrike feels like night and day

[stray pond]

And I'm not sure what's up with weak spot criticals

[digital narwhal]

I can finally kill things quickly at range instead of relying on Brain Burst

[stray pond]

There's also a very good chance I'm just criminally incompetent with this stuff

[west galleon]

I never fucked with soulblaze, does it work well on voidstrike? Thats the only staff im willing to use at this point (until i roll some better gear)

[stray pond]

Maybe if it applied more than one stack of soulblaze haha

[digital narwhal]

Another crash :D

[stray pond]

Also this Voidstrike is the biggest meme of a weapon that I own

12% damage

[digital narwhal]

Mmmmm 12% damage

mmmmmmmm

[pale basalt]

https://tenor.com/view/shark-dog-costume-look-up-tongue-out-gif-23326571

[stray pond]

I also have a sorta funny Purg staff

[digital narwhal]

My playtime has devolved into

Doing one mission

[stray pond]

I nabbed this from Melk for when we can eventually transfer/extract blessings

[digital narwhal]

Waiting for shop reset

Repeat

[stray pond]

And yeah my playstyle is about the same tbh

[cyan notch]

just as fatshark intended

[stray pond]

Fatshark definitely intended for me to start using a Crucian Roulette melee crit build with the FS on Psyker

...It's surprisingly effective

[pliant junco]

huge crit multiplier

but better to get purgatus

[stray pond]

Yeah but Purg playstyle is boring, if effective.

[cyan notch]

its pretty fun

who doesnt like burning zombies

[stray pond]

See I'm doing that but with a sword

[cyan notch]

slowly

[digital narwhal]

I find the constant dinks of Voidstrike weak point kills more fun tbh

[lunar hollow]

i love bowling with voidstrike

[mighty pike]

exciting damnation gameplay

[lost river]

Is that retarded Maleus Monstronum penance bugged or something? I swear I just did it but I didnt get it.

[digital narwhal]

I love how you can accomplish the same thing with a simple push back and then burning them all with Purgatus

[mighty pike]

think they were running surge

[digital narwhal]

Ahh

[mighty pike]

need Heresy, 90% damage, get last hit

[lost river]

I did that

[digital narwhal]

With Surge I'd be more inclined to run Force Sword or Chainsword for more personal defence or horde killing sweeps, respectively.

[lost river]

I really really dont like the surge staff
Feels like more of a support tool than anything because of how little damage it seems to do

[stray pond]

Those side dodges tho

[digital narwhal]

Also why I like the Voidstrike

I feel like I'm accomplishing more when I use it

[lost river]

Way more
And the purgatus just kills about anything

[dry tide]

Surge makes things significantly easier for the team, but it doesn't feel very fun to just spam the secondary the whole game

[digital narwhal]

it still has pretty strong CC so I can use it to protect my teammates just as easily as long as they're mindful of Bursters, Muties and Hounds

[summer prairie]

don't just spam surge, play aggressively and use your melee when things are stunned

[mighty pike]

with brain burst?

[lost river]

yes

I can in fact read

[mighty pike]

😒

idk then. its not that difficult though. i did it 3 times for mine. you'll do it eventually

[warped perch]

Zlobenia you just played with us right?

[mighty pike]

yes

[warped perch]

Oh was just making sure haha

[lost river]

Its entirely dependent on your teammates not killing it
Also I don't play 4 usually because its too easy, but on 5 they have way more health
I just hate the penance design in this game

[mighty pike]

yes

[digital narwhal]

I've been crashing way more as of recent.

Anyone else feel the same?

[lost river]

I almost never crash but the game is so incredibly laggy almost every game

[magic nebula]

A teammate crashed once last week, so. . yes?

[digital narwhal]

Huh

I've had like

4 crashes just today.

[stray pond]

Y'all you think I should try and upgrade this garbage FS? I'm holding onto it because of the T4 blessing but that's all.

[digital narwhal]

It's always been right when starting a mission too.

[digital narwhal]

No, just keep the Blessing for when Re-Bless comes in.

[stray pond]

If only it had tanked Warp Resistance instead of Finesse

[digital narwhal]

Finesse is too low.

[lost river]

Rebless is only last month away so shouldnt take long

[digital narwhal]

Just save it for Re-Bless.

[stray pond]

I also upgraded this FS earlier and honestly it just depresses me

It's perfectly fine and usable, but depressing

[lost river]

I have a great force sword but I have never seen the blessing to block shots
So annoying
I think that almost every game mechanic design decision in Darktide is just terrible and not thought through at all

[stray pond]

I was hoping for Blazing Spirit on it- Or Deflector but that's a pipe dream

[digital narwhal]

Good Modifiers and then boom, tanked on the Perks and Blessings

:(

[ornate hamlet]

Aren't those buffs too small?

Only 4%

[lost river]

Yeah these perks arent amazing

[stray pond]

The 4% power isn't bad

Unstable Power is distinctly 'Okay'

[lost river]

4% sounds like fuck all tbh

[stray pond]

I don't like that Precognition is based on dodges

[lost river]

Do you hit any new breakpoints with 4%?

[stray pond]

Or that so many FS blessings are based on dodges

With the FS? I don't think so.

[wet jacinth]

When proper horde melee requires dodges anyhow and force sword has inf dodge limit

[stray pond]

You get a smidgen of extra damage if your peril is up

So far my very first FS is turning into my Ol' Reliable

[lost river]

Really a pointless blessing kinda. Not as bad as the "+6% experience" on trinkets of course

[stray pond]

And yes it took me until level 30 to get a Force Sword

[wet jacinth]

Blazing spirit making the Blaze part of force sword real

[lost river]

I just want to block shotgunners because they are so unbalanced

[stray pond]

Gunner Resistance is your friend

[glacial totem]

man - i just had the coolest people help me get my exploding pennance

[stray pond]

Just get you one of these and you'll be good

[glacial totem]

so glad to have that over with

[lost river]

I have that and they still do huge damage even through full overshield

way too much
And through several enemies too
And you cant stagger them

[stray pond]

You can definitely stagger them

[wet jacinth]

Gunners res is specifically the LMG ones tho iirc

[stray pond]

Nope

[lost river]

You can but they have some of the highest stagger resistance in the game

[stray pond]

Gunner resistance applies to the LMG ones AND the shotguns

It has to because otherwise I'd get fucked up WAY more by shotgunners

[lost river]

But good to know that gunner resistance applies to them
Does it apply to the normal foot soldiers too?

[stray pond]

No

[wet jacinth]

I'll take the random person in discord server as legit "Trust me bro"

[stray pond]

Normal dregs and scabs don't have any associated resistances

[lost river]

Because the laser carbine guys are also just dumb

[stray pond]

Yeah exactly totally legit bro

[wet jacinth]

But yeah it doesnt apply to normie ranged

[stray pond]

Honestly if you COULD get resistances to the small dudes those would be the BIS resistances

Forget about gunners, snipers, bombers, mutants, tox flamers, hounds

Scab/Dreg resistance would be the way to go

[lost river]

For sure

Espescially since these fuckers shoot through every tiny hole in the wall with aimbot accuracy

or the floor

[clear heath]

gunner res doesn't work on shotgunners
tried testing it a while ago and it did nothing

[wet jacinth]

LF friendly fire

[stray pond]

I hope you're joking because it makes no sense if it doesn't

[lost river]

Half the things in this game dont make sense

[wet jacinth]

Iirc isnt it. Like infested or the other shit that is the actual resist?

[stray pond]

But that would also answer a question I have about Tox Flamer resistance

[wet jacinth]

I cant remember which one

[lost river]

The veteran doesnt highlight the carbine guys because they arent "long range" even though they have the same range and higher damage output AND are harder to see

[stray pond]

That being does it affect Dreg Flamers which were definitely a last second "Oh shit this enemy isn't done just throw something else in"

Cause' character voice lines about dreg flamers do NOT match up

They act like it's some horrible mutant when it's just a normal dude with a flamethrower

[lost river]

"What is that thing?!"

Flamethrowers are an unknown concept in 40k I am certain

[stray pond]

Nah because Tox Flamers exist

And the varlets have the appropriate response to them

"Green fire, GREEN FIRE!"

[glacial totem]

which perk is better to roll off a curio? flamers or bombers?

[lost river]

Yeah I know which makes it even funnier that the normie flamethrower is so weird

[glacial totem]

have both but dont know which to keep

[lost river]

Bombers do more damage imo usually

[stray pond]

Neither is very good Innsomniac, but probably flamer

[glacial totem]

thanks

[clear heath]

yeah i was surprised too
i tested it with a friend by having a shotgunner shoot both of us, with me having gunner res and him not having any, and we took the same damage per pellet

[stray pond]

Cause Tox Flamers will instantly break your toughness regardless of having flamer resistance

[lost river]

Bombers stagger you if the grenade is too close and you get more damage that way, espcially in a hallway when the fire spreads further

[clear heath]

and before anyone asks, we checked by tanking with toughness, and then tanking with health. the gunner res didn't make a difference for both tests

[stray pond]

Well, just Fatshark things I guess Json

[lost river]

Well good that somebody has such a scientific mindset

Guess that means that almost all perks are complete trash

[stray pond]

Toughness Regeneration Speed definitely is

It doesn't even work

[lost river]

What does that even apply to

only through coherency?

[stray pond]

Yes and no

[clear heath]

people say it's supposed to be just be the regen delay for coherency after taking damage

[stray pond]

There's some vague shit it does specifically but it actually just doesn't work at all

[clear heath]

but people have also reported that it's just bugged and doesn't do anything

either way it sucks

[stray pond]

The only perk I know reliably works and that I trust, or only two rather, are Block Efficiency and Corruption Resistance.

Corruption Resistance is a beautiful game saver at times.

Though it doesn't affect corruption after being downed/picked up

[lost river]

Guess thats what I'll go for
Maybe stamina regen

[stray pond]

That, shockingly enough, actually works

[lost river]

Amazing

[near gale]

Something working in a game? Sounds sus.

[vagrant cedar]

must be a bug

[near gale]

Exactly

[digital narwhal]

What would you say the best Mk of Duelling Sword is?

[rose lily]

what about focus channelling?

what about focus channelling?

[vocal grotto]

I know a Psyker main that swears by Focus Channeling on purg staff specifically, probably because the stagger takes a while to kick in on alt fire and if you're interrupted, you're in for a bad time... but personally I can't speak to it. I would say that's possibly one of the three top blessing.

[digital narwhal]

Purg already has strong Suppression with the flames.
Warp Flurry and Warp Nexus are the best two for Purg I'd say.

[vocal grotto]

I keep seeing this opinion, and yet I don't see it in-game. Without a friendly standing between the mobs and the flame psyker, the suppression is not that great on purg. Again, my anecdotal experience.

Maybe I'm biased because I main surge staff.

[digital narwhal]

Are you fighting a lot of Dregs?

[vocal grotto]

I can stop ANY mob.

[digital narwhal]

Because Dregs are kinda impossible to Suppress rn

[sterile vale]

Dregs do get suppressed, although their animations are somewhat broken (they stop firing though). That being said, they are supposed to have some suppression resistance according to some dev forum post somewhere.

[vocal grotto]

They're bugged or something?

[orchid venture]

yeah, it's like they cant do the animation or something, it looks strange

just go into the meat grinder and try shooting near the dregs there, and you'll see

[near gale]

I prefer the mk 4

the 5's strikedown is annoying, the heavies on the 2 suck

for lights, on the 5

[vocal grotto]

I see what you mean! The suppression does work well on Scab, just not dreg.

not at all on specials or elites, though?

unless you actually hit them.

[plain tangle]

is endgame voidstrike staff similar to siennas's lightning bolt staff? im lvl 16 so far and its def the most fun staff

[near gale]

It's more like the fireball staff

Less aoe, though

[digital narwhal]

Voidstrike is the best mix of range, cc and damage out of all the staffs

Most well rounded

[long wharf]

oof, that's like saying "carboard has less taste"

[digital narwhal]

Can't go wrong with it

[rough egret]

first time upgrading items. what other blessing do i want to try and reroll on this?

[long wharf]

void's damage starts to be less useful on damnation, but up until then it feels good

[rough egret]

and what perks am i generally looking for on a sword

[frail berry]

Good perk would be +1 stam

[long wharf]

don't listen to this

good lord, +1 stamina is never a good perk

[digital narwhal]

You think it needs a small damage bump then?

[long wharf]

not directly, we need warp charges to give more than +3% damage

[digital narwhal]

Fair

[long wharf]

bring it up to 5% each

[digital narwhal]

I thought 5, yeah

That would make Brain Burst better too

Make it actually one shot Hounds and Ragers too

[stray pond]

You got a real nice Deflector there

[digital narwhal]

If you wanna make a Crit Build, I'd say replace Specialist Damage with Crit Chance, and when we get Re-Bless, go for Blazing Spirit or Shred.

[frail berry]

For block is what I was told earlier for a similar re-roll

[digital narwhal]

If you're going to be blocking a lot as Psyker, you're gonna have Peril Block anyway

[long wharf]

block efficiency is okay

[stray pond]

Yes +1 Stamina is better than +20% Block Efficiency but it's a relatively close margin

[long wharf]

uh no, +1 stamina is not better than block eff

[frail berry]

This is what the channel eluded to earlier

[stray pond]

It ultimately makes little difference

People better at math than I have done the math Pfhoenix

If you have block efficiency on all 3 curios? Go for block efficiency. If you only have some? Go for stamina.

That's how it boils down more or less

[rough egret]

is it? how rare is 12% then lol

[cloud heron]

I got the transfer peril blessing on this staff and have taken it through 4 damnation games now and still don't see what's good about the voidstrike

[stray pond]

Painfully. Very painfully rare.

There's one dude in this channel who has a legendary T4 Deflector sword but I don't remember who it was

[cloud heron]

Honestly didn't even know deflector came in tiers above 1

I've seen it 3 times and it's always been t1

[long wharf]

I do

[rough egret]

i'm going to save this info for later 🙂 ty

[stray pond]

Post it again Pfhoenix, show the goods

[long wharf]

as soon as this mission is done, I will

and I want to see that "math"

[stray pond]

I'd like it again myself

[near gale]

The crit damage is not a great buff, currently

Compared to 25% to a type

[maiden knoll]

I went on the shooting range today to compare some weapons (without blessing). The force sword was more versatile than the dueling sword and the accatran mk6 completely overshadowed all staffs.

[summer prairie]

Stamina is better or equal until +1 stamina is less than 20% of you max

[near gale]

It's more: what works best for you when shit hits the fan

For me it's the zap staff and mk iv dueling sword

[plain tangle]

so no 1 shotting elites with fully charged shots?

[maiden knoll]

Yeah, psyker is the third character im leveling up. I was playing surge staff and dueling sword too so far. And it's fun. But compared to other characters and weapons, there is a huge power disparity.

[digital narwhal]

Most of them no.
But you can't one shot a lot of them with Brainburst either, so no steps taken backwards.

[near gale]

Doesn't matter when you're the last 1 alive clutching a run

[maiden knoll]

Psyker is squishier and deals less damage and in some cases cc

Yes, because psykers are forced to be more skilled, because they are weaker

[digital narwhal]

Psyker needs a considerably bump in damage to meet more breakpoints, as well as more of their Talents to synergise

Psyker is a mess right now

[near gale]

2 noobs, my friend(who died trying to save them) and then little old me... with my zap staff and dueling sword... and a dream...

[long wharf]

okay mission over

surge and combat axe

match made in heaven

at least until FartShart changes the passive quell on non-force weapons

[near gale]

Was intense af

[maiden knoll]

Im playing psyker and I prefer to be matched rather with any other class because they don't get downed as much.

[long wharf]

and I have block efficiency on all curios

[ornate hamlet]

Peanut butter and jealous.

[summer prairie]

It's easy to do the math with the peril block formula

[near gale]

Meanwhile in that run I was talking about, I was the only 1 to not get downed XD

3 zealots, and a psyker

[clear heath]

block eff stacking with deflector is overrated imo

[summer prairie]

Just multiply the incoming stamina damage by your block cost reduction values (one by one, not additive)

[maiden knoll]

Congrats, you are skilled, but you are not the average player

[near gale]

Well 2 zealots were noobs, and my friend only got screwed trying to save the noobs.

[clear heath]

you also have to include stamina

[near gale]

I am just talented at clutching... :/

[clear heath]

max stamina affects peril block

[summer prairie]

Yes, but that part is self evident, we are talking about the formula already

[long wharf]

it does?

[maiden knoll]

How so?

[long wharf]

I'm looking into the Lua right now

have to look up keywords.block_gives_warp_charge

and the defensive_1.warp_charge_cost_multiplier

[summer prairie]

Block lua has it but royales guide has the math too

[clear heath]

@long wharf

[magic burrow]

jesus fucking christ this game can be so impossibly busted sometimes. Just had a situation where halfway into a damnation mission the game throws a beast of nurge, a horde, a gunner squad, and a couple of dogs and muties at us. Full on YOU LOSE LMAO thanks for the 20 minute investment, back to the mission board you go, scrub

[near gale]

oof

[summer prairie]

So +1 stamina should be better than 20 bcr until you are at 5 stamina

[magic burrow]

this isnt just hard anymore, thats the game going full on fuck you mode

[rare furnace]

Psyker should explode any time he got downed as a talent instead of the walking while queling

[near gale]

It does that sometimes 😦

[rare furnace]

That would be fun

[idle bay]

Ai Director: You are last one standing? Here is a horde, 2 Mutants tag team and 2 dogs. Enjoy!

[near gale]

or 3 ragers and 3 shotgunners, and a basic gunner squad

[stray pond]

How have I done 140 missions yet still struggle for Plasteel

[rare furnace]

One trapper but you jump instead of side stepping

[near gale]

Ironically that can still make it miss sometimes

[rare furnace]

Oh really?

[long wharf]

oh well here's why

[idle bay]

Better! Silent Trappers who are shooting nets through the BOXES and through the hordes!

[long wharf]

percentage_of_stamina = block_cost / max_stamina

[near gale]

Very rare, but, osmetimes yes

[long wharf]

sum = current_warp_charge + percentage_of_stamina * warp_charge_efficiency_multiplier

[near wyvern]

It can be good if you know what you are doing but can also get you killed. At the current state of the game, none of the blessings really matter for purgatus. You want +flak for one of the perks and then wither pick +crit chance or another +armour damage of your choice as long as it's not carapace

[long wharf]

the more stamina you have, the less that percentage calculation gets

[rare furnace]

I would prefer if dogs did faster dmg but actually left you

Sometimes they cut the pace

Very bad

[stray pond]

Dogs break the game

Trappers are fine, they're easy to deal with

But a dog on any amount of ping? Get fucked basically

[near gale]

Dogs go flying sometimes too

[rare furnace]

I didn’t realise how bad dogs where untill hunting grounds

Like worse mode ever

[long wharf]

in fact, I'm not sure block efficiency has any bearing on peril block, now

[rare furnace]

Not hard but frustrating

[magic burrow]

when youre in that water purification mission with the demons and the neverending horde, and a sniper spawns behind that fence where you have to escape through, perfectly able to pop you one by one but no one can attack them back

[near wyvern]

Hug a corner or a barrel and spam melee. Push instead of dodge if that's not possible. You will thank me later.

[idle bay]

Best dog i met did a 50m pounce on me through boxes ... while i was tanking Demonhost.

[clear heath]

It does. I tried the same setup as blooddrunk without any block eff and it changed the results exactly how you'd expect

[near gale]

And spam the zap staff x.x

[summer prairie]

Block_cost takes into account bcr, weapon block cost and the attack

[near gale]

AND nades

[magic burrow]

dogs just randomly choose to ignore surge stagger if its inconvenient for the game

[idle bay]

Thing is that Pox Hounds are so karking broken that zapping them with Surge staff works only in 70% cases

[lost river]

Dogs are completely magnetic. Whoever thought that modifer was a good idea must be mental.
Instead of even trying to dodge its way better to try and hit them instead since that works half the time at least.
Unless you get pushed by their completely random stagger aura

[near gale]

You gotta do it prematurely

[long wharf]

oh ok, I see that, it's above the code I'm looking at

[idle bay]

Sometimes they are so bugged that they don;t give a shit

[near gale]

It can take up to 1-2 seconds to affect them

which can be too late

[long wharf]

so it might be better to roll one of my +12% block cost reduction perks on my curios

[idle bay]

Even premature zapp - does nothing to them sometimes. Something about hit registration probably

[long wharf]

to stamina

[magic burrow]

also when there's two zealots going melee wild in a group of gunners, but the gunners are laser focusing on you standing 50 yards away and picking you off behind half cover

[lost river]

All enemies do that.
I think thats when they have some form of stagger on them making them stagger resistant. Its espescially bad if you set them on fire
I saw a poxburster jump through the lightning staffs of 3 psykers at once and kill them all lmao

[long wharf]

or just swap my wounds curio to a +3 stamina one

[clear heath]

I don't think you can get stamina as a curio perk

[long wharf]

yeah, that's what I meant (was misremembering)

[near gale]

Sounds like a reason to fear bursters.

[idle bay]

Stamina Curios are borked - +3 and +2 really only give +1

[long wharf]

of course they are.

[lost river]

I frankly cannot believe they didnt fix this yet. The incompetence is staggering

[clear heath]

If my math is correct, this should be a good enough guideline for checking what option you should take

[idle bay]

I called it Tangible Incompetence in my steam review 🙂

[safe pendant]

I had a trapper net me thru chain link fence yesterday night

[clear heath]

So basically go stam over block eff if you're below 5 stam

[lost river]

I used less nice words

[near gale]

I don't trust those fences

[magic burrow]

when the game decides you are going down to a poxburster, the surge staff doesnt stagger and the ult just makes them smile as they full on kobe on your ass

[long wharf]

can't trust floors either, trappers don't care

[near gale]

That's why you have your melee out and you push instead

[idle bay]

They earned some leeway by making combat actually fun... so i spared them

[near gale]

It, actually seems to almost always work

[lost river]

Well I do like the core gameplay mostly. But whoever is responsible for gamedesign should be fired

[clear heath]

I am currently practicing with a stam curio in hopes that one day they'll fix this and i can enjoy blocking memes with +3 stamina bars
If they just change the text instead, i will cry and switch it back to a toughness curio instead

imagine how insanely valuable 3 stamina would be if it actually functioned

[near wyvern]

Gunners and some floors/roofs give me PTSD

[near gale]

^

[idle bay]

I mean 573 missions so far, and i'm still having fun with a game, cusring Fatshark every time i hit the store or crafting or mission selection.

[lost river]

Sounds about right

[long wharf]

this'll have to do

[near gale]

The fact you can get free rerolls on perks is at least nice

[near wyvern]

I got the browser extension. I work remotely from home so it's piss easy to get more FS to roll at than I have mats

[clear heath]

now pray that fatshark fixes their game

[long wharf]

yep

[near wyvern]

Looking for Bloodthirsty

[long wharf]

the pain is real

[near gale]

Well the did a close enough job with vt2, so... in ~6 years there's hope

[near wyvern]

Opinions on tox flamer resist on curios? IMO it sucks since the flames don't do that much damage and the moment you touch it the most of the harm has anyways been done already (toughness gone)

[idle bay]

I preffer to suffer the store in person , and peacefully live with an idea that i probably missed good staff , force sword or mk v axe.

[long wharf]

yep, I roll that off

[near gale]

Only useful when you get fucked somehow and are stuck in the flames

[near wyvern]

IMO sniper and burster resist are the best ones to have. Tha latter mainly because they are bugged af for the stagger.

[near gale]

Is there a burster resistance?

I don't think I've seen it

[clear heath]

there's a nonzero chance they just change the text for stamina curios to be +1 instead and we get screwed over
will be sad if this happens

[near wyvern]

But at that point you would be dead even with it?

[near gale]

Probably

I've legit never seen a poxburster resist, actually. :/

[safe pendant]

I usually get stuck in flames when the trapper gets me and those two synergize well

[clear heath]

Is burster resist even a thing? never heard of it

[near gale]

Yeah

Maybe we

are the morons, here xD

[safe pendant]

Or I dodge a mutant right into a hound then a tox flamer roasts me

[near gale]

^

[clear heath]

They should add shotgunner res

[near gale]

Yeah

[idle bay]

We have Buster resistance, Siblings, it called a drooling Zealot.

[near gale]

lol

[idle bay]

They charge Busters so eagerly 🙂

[clear heath]

ngl i'd take burster res on zealot if i had the option

[near gale]

I usually don't charge the bursters, I usually shoot them xD

[clear heath]

on psyker it'd be whatever for me cause i play surge and they're not a threat

but on zealot sometimes i'm literally inside a horde and can't move

[cloud heron]

Shooting always runs the risk of a teammate running up to shove them and exploding it in their face

[near gale]

shoot and shove, that's the combo for me on zealot

[safe pendant]

What about using surge and the burster is walking through a horde towards you? Big gamble

[near gale]

Sad, and true... 😭

[cloud heron]

If you dont have surge, shoving poxbursters is safe and consistent

[near gale]

^

[cloud heron]

just need to make sure you actually have the stam for it

[clear heath]

the worst feeling is trying to surge a burster away and the flayer proc blows it up in your face

[near gale]

Sounds hilarious, actually

Then again, I have a twisted sence of humor

I would be annoyed, but, then probably burst out laughing at that if and when it happens to me

[safe pendant]

I laughed at a game yesterday that ended with a wipe while I tried to clutch. Burster launched me away and into the arms of another burster that downed me

[near gale]

Oof

Sounds as bad as the double sniper, bomber, flamer, horde combo I had 1 time as zealot

with an eviscrator and xii

That clutch was rough, man, since I was the last 1 alive and barely level 20

and also at 4hp

[idle bay]

Finally i remembered to check Surge staff i'm using and found out that i was using 20% flak instead of 25% . Had to fix it ASAP.

[near gale]

ngl that staff is sexy

[near gale]

Meh, it's a 5...

If that was a 4, I would be drooling

[idle bay]

Hot take: Run and Gun is actually a good and useful Blessing.
Provided you are using LMB attacks on the Staff.

[prisma perch]

I heard psyker is the most op class

[idle bay]

Lies. Deception.

[near gale]

Hah! That's a great joke!

[stray pond]

I'm late because I was in a Heresy 2-man on Hab Dreyko but trust me I know to push instead of dodge, even then the dogs will still rubberband onto me if I knock them away at times

[idle bay]

There is nothing OP in Psyker. Just dirty tricks

[near gale]

^

[stray pond]

Which speaking of, fuck Hab Dreyko

[near gale]

Dirty tricks, and a high af skill ceiling

[prisma perch]

The ogryns lied to me

[near gale]

This man speaks the truth

[idle bay]

And a lot of stress intake for player

[near gale]

Hab Dreyko is cancer on sterroids

[safe pendant]

Ogryns can't tell lies. They speak their minds that they think Psykers are cool and thus OP

[idle bay]

Other classed playing Darktide, Psykers playing Darkest Dungeon with Korean MMO RNG.

[stray pond]

If the Zealot I was with didn't have a Flamer we would've been fucked

[wet belfry]

You play zealot wyck?

[near gale]

That's so true... 😭

[idle bay]

Leveled one to 30. Not enjoying that class because of lamest voicelines. Though gameplay is fun.

[near gale]

I chose the try-hard voice actor, for my male zealot

[idle bay]

If there will be option to shut-up your Zealot character permanently - i will play Zealot again.

[near gale]

I also chose voice actors I knew I wouldn't get super tired off, very quickly

[near wyvern]

Psyker is paying for the versatility. There are so many things a psyker can do so that to balance it there is no single thing where they really excel at. I see no problem with that. But dear emperor they need to get rid of the redundant feats in the tree and replace them with something that could benefit guns for example.

[idle bay]

Only upside of playing Agitator Zealot - he calls teammates "Imbeciles!" , and quite often it's a fitting call.

[near gale]

maybe that will be a psyker thing... gunmancer, instead of pyromancer

[clear heath]

I love zealot voicelines

[near gale]

I chose the Judge

[near wyvern]

I think there is an option to shut down voice lines but that will cut everything out

[near gale]

"Oi, I heard that!" XD

[idle bay]

I found a strong suits for Psyker, and i'm using them as much as i can, only feeling weak and useless vs Mostrosities to some degree. Axe with t4 Thrust does deal noticable damage to them....

[near gale]

I loved that interraction, that was amazing

Also that

is my zealot's voice

[clear heath]

yeah it's great

[idle bay]

That the best zealot can do with his voiceline. Also Scottish zealot complaining about his accent that Melk can't understand him

[cloud heron]

I don't think that's true. They're not any more versatile than a flamer zealot with a thunder hammer or a bolter veteran with a power sword

[wet belfry]

Longer range with BB, more CC potenial if they go that route compared to zealot

But thats tradeing for like twice the survivalbility, arguably a better talent tree.

[near gale]

Grenade regen is so nice

[clear heath]

my zealot voice really just makes me want to shout along with him. really gets you into the zealot mood
"BLOOD FOR THE EMPEROR! SKULLS FOR THE GOLDEN THRONE!!!"

[long wharf]

I've taken to doing squat jumps in elevators

[idle bay]

All i want for Psyker so far:

1. No More Nerfs
2. Feats reworked to be synergentic with all the Staffs, not just Purgatus.

[long wharf]

I start by messaging "never skip leg day"

[near gale]

Obviously

How else will you run away? 😉

[long wharf]

if that doesn't get everyone joining me, I then add "SQUATS FOR THE EMPEROR! GAINS FOR THE GOLDEN THRONE!"

[near gale]

xD

I would totally start joining in at that one

if I wasn't distracted by a special

[long wharf]

only in elevators.

[idle bay]

We need elevator music

[near gale]

Isn't the ambient sound of specials good enough?

[clear heath]

speaking of elevators
is there a lore reason for why ascenders even exist?

like what is the purpose of stairs that have to move?

why not just have the stairs stay there?

[near gale]

Tech that makes you feel bad

Never Skip Leg Day

[idle bay]

You've seen a "child balancing puzzle" of where that Ascender mounted ? You have further questions after that?

[near gale]

Huh?

[idle bay]

It would be more rational to to regular stairs and locked gates there. But person who constructed it probably had some kind of brain rot

[near gale]

Makes sense, given nurgle

[fierce sinew]

I think the point is if you were looking for reasonable architecture you should have stopped long before you met the ascender

[west stream]

Time witch pls

I want psyker going zoom

[near gale]

omg yes

[west stream]

and mass slowing horde

[long wharf]

there's actually a very simple reason for this

[west stream]

maybe they get bonuses to reload speed and movement as they accumulate charges

[long wharf]

imperial society is stratified

[west stream]

that'd be cool, probably

[long wharf]

you don't want the lower labor having access to higher areas uncontrolled

[idle bay]

Also Ascender makes sense - if sewage flows occasionally through that area, then it makes sense to have stairs that cam be removed to be above the flow.

Some techpriest pushes massive "Flush" button and....

[long wharf]

I would think that the ascender would normally be guarded

[west stream]

ascenders are just stairs you can turn on and off, they dont require active power

they allow mass movement compared to a ladder

[fierce sinew]

still silly when selectively operable elevators exist (via cyber ident or other means)

[near gale]

Aren't they, by the enemy? :/

[west stream]

so good to keep open during working hours (say, when workers need to move up and down between levels), close during night to people remain where they need to

Elevator demands power every time, menials dont get to use electricity

but really though I feel it's one of those funny warhammer things that doesnt make real sense

[fierce sinew]

less power than moving the entire flight of stairs, presumably

[west stream]

a door on both ends would achieve same thing

[near gale]

shhh, logic doesn't exist

[west stream]

I imagine stairs got more throughput than an elevator tho

tbh

[near gale]

THey would get more through than an elevator, in 1 trip

[cloud heron]

if you need the throughput i think you could just have regular stairs

[west stream]

I mean, ascender doesn't go up and down all the time

presumably you leave it locked