psyker-class

[teal kite]

technically

LOL

[long wharf]

nope

[fierce sinew]

fair enough

[cyan notch]

yea

[long wharf]

rerolling isn't broken, it works as intended

the UI is bugged

[fierce sinew]

I class any mismatch between tooltip and function as broken

[long wharf]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[fierce sinew]

the rest is diagnosing what part is broken, and it looks like we know

[cyan notch]

yup its broke thats why it needs fixing

[fierce sinew]

also, it's 3, not 4

[long wharf]

alrighty then, what's broken here?

[cyan notch]

its the 7.5k that doesnt do anything right

[fierce sinew]

whichever thing doesn't do what it says it does

[cyan notch]

i think its like what 0 2.5k 5k 7.5k

[teal kite]

change that thing to gunners and its sweet

[long wharf]

so you guys all agree, 70 + 65 = 140

[cyan notch]

nobody agreed to anything

[fierce sinew]

I'm happy to call the gearscore broken here

you aren't?

[fierce sinew]

yes, and only the first three work

[warped perch]

If anyone here was just in the all-psyker damnation match with me, gg, that was awesome

[long wharf]

was everyone using a different staff?

[warped perch]

3 purgs and one void

[long wharf]

was everyone running KO + AB?

[warped perch]

Fucking wrecked everything, that was easier than doing it with other classes lol

What’s KO and AB again

[long wharf]

Kinetic Overload and Ascendant Blaze

[warped perch]

Brain fart

[long wharf]

you have 3 psykers running purge, that's at least three ABs

[warped perch]

Oh yeah the me and the other purgs were

[long wharf]

if you're all running KO as well, then that's a pretty good test to see if KO becomes usefull

[warped perch]

Prob would’ve been a bit trickier if the void wasn’t there tho, they helped snipe far away gunners and stuff

But it was also BB city lol

[warped perch]

Oh I just looked I myself am running kinetic flauet rather than overload

Flamer

Flayer

God damn can’t type

Maybe I should use KO

[gilded viper]

What perks would you run on a Purge staff? I got crit chance, but what would be the secondary one?

[proud mantle]

this is so epic

[olive ember]

Meh who needs damage anyways

[olive ember]

Terrifying barrage the suppression means anything near you gets well… suppressed

Good for horde management I heard and also helpful ish against shooters

[cyan notch]

thats not a perk tho

[long wharf]

bonus to unarmored would be useful

[idle shuttle]

whens rebless

[long wharf]

nobody knows

and if FartShart is smart (which they've yet to prove), they won't say anything until it's actually done, tested, and ready to go live

[idle shuttle]

how the fuck do they need to test it

turn it on

change from 0 to 1 in cfg

theyre drip feeding

more like bleeding the players

[long wharf]

I'm going to pretend you understand software development and said something smart, instead of what you just said.

[idle shuttle]

just pretend its smart

whats the word they used

it would be "immeasurably complex"

to put in rebless

[long wharf]

and therein lies the problem

everybody and their grandmother knows how it should work

it's not a complicated thing to code

and yet, FartShart has saddled themselves with the worst way to code a large project

[idle shuttle]

ill say another smart thing

copy paste rebless from VT2

[long wharf]

so it's not only cumbersome because of their codebase, but they clearly don't have competent programmers anyways

[idle shuttle]

theyve like, made a game previously

yeah maybe a bunch of dudes left

they have 180 dudes though

[long wharf]

and the lead designer was proud to say they started over from scratch for Darktide

in that fluff article that was released recently

they intentionally didn't implement things they had done before

[idle shuttle]

creates the illusion that theyre providing updates

[long wharf]

not really

[idle shuttle]

as they unlock what should be day1 features.. an old story I guess

[long wharf]

providing updates is providing updates

if they had just released into Early Access, players could have forgiven the state of the game on release

[idle shuttle]

I just have a hunch they have a rebless build that totally works. but they want you to keep farming

"crafting" and hoping for the right blessing to pop up on the shop

I think VT2 had it figured out in the end but that took years

but too bad they started from scratch, I didnt even know that

[lunar hollow]

its kinda ridiculous you cant recycle weapons into scrap

[idle shuttle]

it would be immensly complex to do that

[lunar hollow]

damn

i wonder if any of the other tide games let you do that

[idle shuttle]

gotta wonder hard

[lunar hollow]

🤔

[idle shuttle]

im misquoting

its immeasurably complex

not immensely

[orchid venture]

hey, damage isn't important on a purge staff, right?

cause I just got one that has a 44% in damage, but p much 80% in everything else

[fierce sinew]

the burn stat is the actual damage stat

you care about burn and cloud

and quell speed

[orchid venture]

yeah burn is 78%, cloud is 80%, and quell is 77%

warp resist is 79% too

and comes with Focused Channeling

[fierce sinew]

warp nexus is the main blessing you want

[orchid venture]

biggest L is that it has Crit Damage on it, but maybe the other bonus will be good

[fierce sinew]

(just like crit chance is the main perk you want)

[orchid venture]

I'll upgrade it when I can, and see if it continues to be a god roll lol

im getting close to 100 missions done, but I still dont have Malleus Monstronum done

[clear heath]

I have a hard time believing this now because of how much backlash there has been
If you were saying this on like, week 1 of release when the reviews were still positive, i might be more inclined to believe you, but right now i think they would take the opportunity to salvage their reputation if they could

[cyan notch]

them mfs still on vacation

some just got back this week

[dull haven]

Yucky modifiers

[clear heath]

rip first target

[dull haven]

rip 300 modifier rating

[clear heath]

I actually have a pretty nice 313 since it actually only dumped the shittier stats

[dull haven]

At least it's mobility

Def useable

[clear heath]

I'd prefer if warp res and mobility were swapped, but it's still a great stat distribution anyways

[dull haven]

This a distribution I like

[clear heath]

I use the force sword special to generate peril anyways so warp res being low would just be a benefit half the time

damn that's a nice staff

[dull haven]

Just upgraded it

I'm thinking refine infested

to flak

[proud mantle]

how do you get that eyeball skin

also emperor is drunk

[prisma lichen]

Force Swords w/ Deflector seem ridiculously rare, so I'm happy to have just gotten this. I'm seriously impressed with the power of block + push + attack cycling when I get swarmed.

[fast elm]

When do you unlock force swords to begin with? I'm rank 17 and haven't seen a single one?

@prisma lichen

[prisma lichen]

Second Trust Level.

They're super rare in the store.

I upgraded this one from grey.

For Psyker, if there's no Deflector blessing, I"m not sure if it's worth it either.

[fast elm]

gotcha, ok ty

[orchid venture]

theres like 40 different auto guns and lasguns, and only one force sword

it's almost like this shop they have rn is placehorlder or such

[brittle crest]

unlucky on the blessing w/ upgrade but i had to try with the base stats being so high O_O

[vocal grotto]

I really hope so. what makes you say that?

[orchid venture]

it's just... massively barebones

so I'd guess they either couldn't get something a tad more robust out in time for release, or are working on something more robust because of player feedback

like, even the fact that when you're leveling a class, and you unlock a new cool weapon, it's possible to go days, even weeks without seeing it

[vocal grotto]

Yea, i mean trust me, I hope it is not intentional

They HAVE to change it

[orchid venture]

I cant even really think of a satisfying way for them to rework the current system without overhauling it

[vocal grotto]

VT system... blueprints and crafting

[magic burrow]

as much as I hope the shop is a placeholder, I think the reality is that everything outside missions is designed to waste time as much as possible to get people to spend money in the cash shop. It's very mobile-esque

[near wyvern]

Well this is not correct. Slaughterer is decent and Bloodthirsty seems like a nice niche but that one is super rare, still searching for one

You have unlimited dodges anyways, which helps to avoid ranged damage while dealing damage

[naive dawn]

@magic burrow I dont think the shop is malicious in design, its just extremely poorly designed for actual game play. Its the same with rerolling perks. I've spent over 30mins rerolling for 1 specific perk. They designed a reroll system, said it works, shipped it, but never tested it.

[orchid venture]

I mean, if they truly wanted people to spend as much money as possible, they'd go the warframe route, and have hadron be able to build you weapons, but it takes real life hours, but you can pay a small stipend to speed it up, a small stipend to unlock build slots, a small stipend to improve your rolls, a small stipend to upgrade it to blue out of the box, and so forth

[naive dawn]

I imagine down the road they are going to add a shop reroll function for cost of in-game currency.

[orchid venture]

that function was datamined actually

[naive dawn]

The fact they designed a slot machine with 1 pull every 1/24hrs is incredibly near sighted.

[near wyvern]

Shop reroll, fun, more rng

[naive dawn]

I'd rather reroll a shop and be disappointed immediately, versus wasting hours and still being disappointed.

[orchid venture]

like, we very much know that fatshark can do better than that, because they very much DID better than that. s' why i think it's placeholder

[naive dawn]

yeh, some serious mismanagement or design overhauls went into motion and we have a hodgepodge of semi working/semi in-design systems.

[orchid venture]

alot of people are quick to blame Tencent for all that, and maybe thats the case, but Tencent doesn't really operate like that, they dont micromanage the money out of every property they own.

they're more of a like... finger in every pie kind of investor. just put money into things they think they're gonna get money out of

[naive dawn]

I have no knowledge or who to blame nor do I want a villian. Just as a consumer, this product is fun, but incredibly undercooked.

[orchid venture]

yeah, im only talkin about them because Tencent is an investor in Digital Extremes too, who made Warframe. but really the only amount of anything they had DE do was bring Warframe over to asia, cause they thought it'd make alot of money over there

isnt there an asian client for Darktide too?

[vocal grotto]

Yea... I dont think the RNG shop somehow pushes people to buy aquiles. They're literally not connected in any way.

[orchid venture]

and thank god it doesn't

[vocal grotto]

If I could buy in-game currency with aquiles and use that to reroll the shop or something, then I would totally agree.

[prisma lichen]

Crafting Mats.

[vocal grotto]

Yea, exactly.

That too.

But right now that doesn't exist.

[orchid venture]

spend 1000 aquillas to get 10000 plasteel!!! +2000 FREE!!!

[vocal grotto]

I really want a big boost in crafting mats from grim/scrip missions.

Or extra mats after a boss dies, similar to dice in V2.

[prisma lichen]

And more transcendant drops. If I get all the grimoires, kill the daemonhost, etc I expect a drop. It's so random, it's hard to convince groups to focus on those.

[orchid venture]

I think... I'd rather see a reduction in the price of consecration maybe

like, by half, would probably be fine

[prisma lichen]

Yeah, I miss VT2 dice.

Though I don't know why they don't have mobs drop loot 🙂

[vocal grotto]

Right. There's little incentive to do the extra stuff. Totally agree.

[orchid venture]

bring back VT1 dice specifically, that'd make everyone furious

[prisma lichen]

Dear bots, please pick up scriptures.

Or give me a ChatGPT plug-in so I can talk to the bots.

[orchid venture]

you can tell bots to pick up tomes n grims in VT2, no idea why it's not in DT

i guess it's not something they can just rip and port over willy nilly

[prisma lichen]

It's in the greasy KFC bucket under someone's desk with all the other features they left behind.

Marked "to-do" 🙂

[orchid venture]

do they have kfc in sweden?

[prisma lichen]

Oh, probably not. I think they distribute self respect to everyone.

[orchid venture]

get me some Karlstad Fried Chicken

[prisma lichen]

I'll take Psyker over Bright Wizard ANY day, but I do miss Coruscation staves.

Not taking damage while quelling Peril? Chef's Kiss.

[orchid venture]

there was apparently 7 force staves in the files found from the datamining, so theres hope

[gilded cloud]

Don't give them ideas!

[prisma lichen]

Even if they did, I don't think it would beat Purgatus for handing out free flames.

[orchid venture]

i just liked coruscation cause it was a shotgun, but you could rip apart hoards by putting a few fire pillars right infront of where you were fighting

[orchid venture]

so I just looked up a list of cities in sweden and found one that started with K for this joke, but looking at a picture of it now, Karlstad looks like an extremely pretty city

big ass fly on my computer

in the dead of winter too

[prisma lichen]

Its technically feasible to have Bright Wizards pulled through the Warp and brought to the 40K side of the universe.

[junior patio]

Any gentlemen out there able to help me get the Malleus Monstronum penence done?

[hoary shadow]

What is thé second best bénédiction for you after deflector on force sword ?

[rocky cedar]

Anyone else here enjoy chainsword on Psyker?

[orchid venture]

though that brings up the question if a bright wizard could even use their magic in 40k. is the red wind even present anywhere?

[steel egret]

You should read some of the portrait frame descs from ones leaked in beta.

You might find them interesting for said theory

[idle bay]

There are really good portrairt frames behind:

• 500 special conditions missions
  -1000 any missions
  -1000 missions of specific type

I admire Fatshark's optimism adding penances like that to the game

[vagrant cedar]

might as well invite the person to the office if it reaches that

doubt there will be more than 5 people

[idle bay]

on r/Darktide one player reached 500 special condition mission wit a targeted grind

And i'm sitting at ~600 any missions right now

[vagrant cedar]

I think i quit at like.... 300

end game of checking the store and #patch-notes aint for me

maybe once they release the game, i'll revisit it, if there will be players alive

[idle bay]

I 'm still able to have fum for some reason. Switching character and trying builds - probably keeps me afloat

[vagrant cedar]

you got time dude, i got no motivation to grind same 2 maps, then do all the weeklies 2x

i saw the mist map once

dark map like 5 times

once they release the game, with working crafting, full obtainable items, then we can have fun

and all maps

[idle bay]

I'd give this game half a year at least to go into "not early access anymore" state to become fully enjoyable.

[vagrant cedar]

a year i'd say

https://steamdb.info/app/1361210/charts/

i worry about that tho

i think alot of players will come back tho once it's out

[idle bay]

I'm not surprised anymore when i'm seeing familiar players in missions o on Morningstar

Population shrinked

[vagrant cedar]

i'd like to see their roadmap tbh

priorities and what not

[rose lily]

hey i'm new, does terrifying barrage actually do anything on a purg staff?

[near wyvern]

Yes and no. It seems to work but given that the staff already supresses even without killing, there is quite a lot of redundancy for using it. It does greatly increase the supression range behind you but if that's useful for someone it's an indication of poor placement skills / game sense.

[glass thistle]

fk the big E

[vocal grotto]

I’d say Warp Flurry and Terrifying Barrage are two of the three best blessings for Purg.

[glass thistle]

Terrifying Barrage just not work in most time

[vocal grotto]

Maybe cause it only procs on kill?

I play with another psyker regularly and have seen it suppress untouched enemies. I think it could be super helpful in those extra hectic situations.

[shy warren]

what kind of staff should I use? enjoying the surge staff but everything i see shows voidstrike

(I don't have voidstrike unlocked yet, but I'd like to know how it is. Still levelling psyker)

[deft fiber]

Use what you like to use.

Even, forgive me Emprah, trauma. If you into bdsm.

[gilded cloud]

Claw sword or dueling sword?

I have like the starting claw sword vs one I just got at level 8

And is it worth to buy the surge staff? I just unlocked it

[vocal grotto]

If you’re not going for a specific build, and you’re still leveling… just have fun 🙂 try everything

[deft fiber]

While you lvling try whatever you want. Till lvl 30 you have plenty of time to find out which weapon you like. Mb you didn't like movest or visual effects and so on.

Everything is viable till you are good. Non of the weapons will give you skill.

[blissful kestrel]

Surge/Voidstrike/purgatus are all good; trauma is generally considered worse than the other staffs but you can absolutely succeed with it if you want. To my best knowledge voidstrike is most popular staff for first 3 difficulties, with Surge and Purgatus being more popular for Heresy+.

[glass thistle]

trauma damage is so low, i just duno how to use it

[deft fiber]

By putting in a trash can.

[vocal grotto]

And it builds peril incredibly fast. And it has a tiny AOE.

@deft fiber what’s your typical loadout?

[deft fiber]

FS and purgatus with 122133 feats.

Surge becomes stale pretty fast for me. it's very strong on higher difficulties, but very boring.

[vocal grotto]

Ahh cool cool. I do FS with surge and 121133.

Yea. It’s pocketed into CC/support pretty deep. Not a real clutch weapon… not a ton of elite/special kills popping up in the corner… but it’s super useful.

[deft fiber]

I'd prefer run 121112, so you have at least some kind of nuke you can try to rely on.

[vocal grotto]

I’ve saved teammates from mutants, dogs and pox bursters countless times. Stopped crushers mid swing, paralyzed mauler patrols… super useful.

I keep kinetic barrage for the BB and so i dont lose stacks.

[deft fiber]

Ascendant Blaze pretty bad without 6 stacks, so it's not even a discussion

Ah, barrage, read is hard.

Well. Thing is that you have no horde clear with surge.

A bit of trade off, but i've see a lot when group have no horde clear at all. Which is sucks.

[wheat quartz]

bring an Antax (Brutal Momentum) or something along those lines, if you bring surge

spam push attack, with brutal momentum procced it's pretty good at horde clear (lol), and psyker's stamina regen is fast enough that the push attack is fully spammable

[vocal grotto]

Yea, surge is only strong against flak groups.

I think you’re spot on with the antax BM thing. I just dont use it.

[wheat quartz]

well, anything good at killing hordes in place of the antax

a shred/devastating strike chainsword will do fine

etc

[vocal grotto]

With FS and block efficiency and kinetic deflection and deflector… i’m like a tank. Which is more CC but i’m OK with that lol

[wheat quartz]

antax is just the easiest to get, since it doesn't require luck with two blessings, just one

[vocal grotto]

I really like that axe. Feels good to use.

[wheat quartz]

forcesword will do fine in this role with slaughterer

[deft fiber]

But BM need to be a T2 at least tho. T1 is a bit hard to work around.

[wheat quartz]

yup, but at least that shows up reasonably often in shop

just BM (level 2 or 3) and you're good, while other weapons need better rolls/more luck to do the same job

[vocal grotto]

This is my sword. Got it a while ago and havent really invested in another one. Hard to get those good stat rolls.

[wheat quartz]

yeah that'll do

lol

esp with purgatus

[north cradle]

That do be looking good

[wheat quartz]

those slaughterer stacks will happily buff your soulblaze dots

[vocal grotto]

I havent built a purg staff yet. Wanting to do that soon.

[wheat quartz]

yeah if you have that sword you should

burn stuff, swap to sword, soulblaze kills give you slaughterer stacks and slaughterer stacks buff the soulblaze damage

it's like

[vocal grotto]

This is my surge.

[wheat quartz]

as funny as the zealot heavy sword crucian roulette thing

[vocal grotto]

Is it supposed to work like that?

[wheat quartz]

who knows with fatshark

it does work though

[vocal grotto]

Right on, good to know

[wheat quartz]

the same trick will work with shred - rack it up, then switch to your staff, and now your warp attacks have +25% crit

for ramping purgatus this is pretty great (+5 crit perk, warp nexus, etc)

crit purgatus ticks apply 2 stacks instead of 1

[gilded cloud]

How often does the armory refresh?

[wheat quartz]

hour

[gilded cloud]

Is it on the hour?

[wheat quartz]

melk is daily

yes

[gilded cloud]

Ty

[vocal grotto]

Wow! That’s broken. I’m assuming it works with any staff?

[wheat quartz]

any weapon

the shred buff is a character buff and it doesn't fall off until you swing and miss, as far as I can tell

[gilded cloud]

How often is it recommended to purchase from the armory tho? Def seems more and more expensive with not as big rewards on mission completion

[wheat quartz]

take shred weapon, swing once into horde, have full stacks, swap over

I'd just buy stuff you need (high rating weapons, blessings you want)

Most of the time it'll refresh and there's nothing worth it

So your income will definitely outpace your spend rate

[vocal grotto]

It goes up in price because you’re leveling and unlocking higher gear scores. You can honestly get away with sub 200 gear score items until you’re lvl 30.

[gilded cloud]

Ah ok. I have 20k rn.... Wanting to spend since I'm level 8 now and my gear is from level 3

[cyan notch]

slightly more than swing once

[wheat quartz]

okay that's fair, it's probably twice

hahaha

[vocal grotto]

With BM it’s probably twice, yea lol

[deft fiber]

Yeah, don't bother till lvl 30. That's where all the "fun" begins.

[gilded cloud]

Is this good?

Just unlocked the ability to equip a Crucio but have noen

The ordo docket bonus seems nice

I want to purchase my first surge staff but its only giving me trauma in the armory lol

[deft fiber]

Ordo dockets isn't a big problem. So no, you can do fine malice till lvl 30 with around 200 gear and no curios. But if you want to it's up to you to do whatever you want

[gilded cloud]

fine malice?

[frank hazel]

Honestly just save money as much as possible for the good stuff

[wheat quartz]

malice (difficulty 3) is not hard enough that you need to be level 30, and it gives the best rewards per run you can probably access and complete with leveling gear

[gilded cloud]

Cause this is my loadout rn...and its feeling lame haha

I tried one level 3 mission and it was full too. Felt extremely difficult

we failed in the end

[wheat quartz]

I'd avoid the trauma staff

Bring a lasgun instead

[gilded cloud]

Level 2 seemed good but the increase in rewards felt like nothing

[wheat quartz]

Seriously

Kantrael Mark 12 is a lot better than a trauma staff with bad stats

[gilded cloud]

These are the current 2 guns I have rn

How do I know which is better? Are the percentages basically always mean higher is better for those?

[gilded cloud]

Cause yeah, I am using the starting sword.....and idk if I should upgrade too if I was going to do level 3 missions

[wheat quartz]

okay so, stats work like this

a weapon has a fixed amount, x, and then another portion, y that ranges from 0-80% of y, total final amount is x+y

Mark 4 is the fast-firing version of the Kantrael infantry lasgun, every Mark 4 will have the same ammo cost per shot, sights, etc

in the case of these two

the first one is better (more damage)

[gilded cloud]

but you mentioned Mark 12. Is that better than mark 4 generally?

[wheat quartz]

Mark 12 is the slow firing, hard hitting version of the Kantrael infantry lasgun

Where you might need to shoot something 2-3 times with Mark 4, Mark 12 will kill it in one headshot, for example

The downside is, it fires slower, and it uses more ammo per shot

Killing something in one shot means it doesn't get to duck behind cover or shoot you, so people like the Mark 12

[gilded cloud]

I see...

[magic zealot]

People like sniper lasguns because they are good shots. There are lots of spray and pray weapons like the flamer and the fire-staff. If you are a sharpshooter you usually go for the high damage shot rifles...they are just more efficient but they require skill. You either go single target or horde containment, but Ogryn and preacher are best for that. Sharpshooter and Psyker are better in high damage dealing.

[wheat quartz]

There's also the Accatran recon lasgun, which is a full auto laser hose with low damage per shot, high rof and low ammo consumption per shot

Psyker can get it, even if it's a bit of a ??? whether we should use it, lol

[magic zealot]

Up to Malice...nobody really cares, only very bad teams do not finish successfully in these levels. Heresy and Damnation is where you have to build your character up to its strengths

[gilded cloud]

I feel like higher damage is more my style tho

[magic zealot]

Just use what is most fun up to Malice.

[gilded cloud]

Is this a good choice to buy then? For 4620

since I dont have a Mark 12 yet, only 4s

[wheat quartz]

yeah give it a try

[vocal grotto]

Yea, definitely buy it and try it out.

[magic zealot]

You can always gamble and get a good basic gun then improve it with Hadron

[vocal grotto]

You’re in the absolute earliest of early game, you need to try things.

[magic zealot]

Need diamantine and plsteel for it

[wheat quartz]

oh, that's a good point - don't spend any of that stuff with Hadron until level 30

seriously save it, you'll need a lot

[magic zealot]

Absolutely agree, try out everything and see what is most fun

I spent some with Hadron just to see how it works and what you can get.

In Heresy and Damnation, you can get some really decent rewards

Plus lots of Plasteel and Diamantine...

[wheat quartz]

I do them and I'm still staring at a chronic plasteel shortage :(

bloody fatshark ratios

[magic zealot]

Take your time when playing and explore, lots of goodies hidden around corners. But most players just grind and rush through levels which sucks

Marathon-tide

[gilded cloud]

I have the game on both GamePass and Steam tho. My level 8 Psyker is on GamePass...but I think I might start over and start again on Steam

So hard to quick play on GamePass

always empty

[cyan notch]

thats what i did with vet and psyker at 30

[vocal grotto]

I’ve only played on Steam and can say finding a team in Malice is usually instant. It’s Damnation that has a wait time.

Sounds like Steam will be better for you?

[steel egret]

Malice is generally instant, faster than the rest

[gilded cloud]

so if I switch to the las gun instead of the trauma staff...I always have this ammo issue tho

with 3 other ppl playing especially, I never have enough ammo and they take the ammo boxes

its also why i liked the staff, never had to worry haha

[cyan notch]

the costs are just way too high for the amount you get per mission per time spent

[wheat quartz]

Can't blessing transpose so the only thing we can do is mass consecrate

I want a trick shooter / Crucian revolver on my zealot

Something like 800-1200+ plasteel each time depending on what I'm starting from to try to fish for it

150 plasteel per 20 minute run = three hours grinding malice per fishing attempt, it's pretty lol

I should just not, and calmly wait for melk

[magic zealot]

The advantage of a psyker is that they do not need ammo essentially. Play with Ogryns that use the stubber and you are their best friend lol

[cyan notch]

wasnt this bugged before?

when did they fix it

[ornate hamlet]

The first one

[shadow onyx]

not as far as i know

[crude wyvern]

Anyone else think the female psyker with the Eastern European accent is a secret chaos worshipper? She goes full chaos when she activates her class ability. 😱

[wet raven]

She's by far the most heretical, most the things she says would get her killed on the spot in a normal circumstance

[crude wyvern]

Totally agree. She’s the voice I chose and I’m often like ‘you’re gonna get us killed you maniac! Shut it!’

[hoary shadow]

i have a question : after deflector, what is the best benediction ? for force sword ? thx

[delicate pelican]

Of the psykers yes, but not all of the characters as i heard a veteran that was actively questioning the Emperors power

[steel egret]

When they fixed veteran penance getting unlocked via said on other classes.

[idle valve]

howdy psykers

what do y'all do for fun

i remember brain pop being satisfying in the open beta sign up

but i think it got nerfed a bit? not too familiar

been seeing that lightning staff. looks awesome for crowd control

[steel egret]

Yes

[steel egret]

Specials yes, horde not much since there is limit.

[idle valve]

oeuf

so what ya do for funz? i don't know the weapons much so pretty fresh

[deft fiber]

Best benediction -- working benediction on Zealot
About blessings -- Slaughterer, Exorcist even Shred would be fine.

[deft trench]

can this appear on a force sword? got it on a chainsword from emperor's gift

[amber canopy]

Any useful perks for breakpoints on voidstrike?

[cyan notch]

yea

[deft fiber]

Try to use lfg channels.

[lucid horizon]

ahhh hell nah

[mighty pike]

Isn't it middle of the night in the USA currently

[cyan notch]

early morning yea

[wet raven]

3am-7am

[lucid horizon]

kinda sad btw

look how left for dead give a f

[hoary copper]

🥹

[hoary copper]

damn i thought l4d was an old ass dead game

[digital narwhal]

On console, yes

Not on PC

[deft fiber]

Yeah, without any progression, customisation and such.

[crystal jolt]

big tiddy anime mods keep the community alive

[lucid horizon]

cool mods too

[hoary copper]

anyone got a guide on weapon upgrade system and stats? i dont get it at all after vt2

[opaque temple]

lots of non english speakers still play it
I see a lot of chinese and korean players online still

[shadow onyx]

average psyker shop

[lucid horizon]

in fact, it is also played by many people from the USA

[opaque temple]

of course

the modding scene goes hard

[shadow onyx]

from what ive saw

l4d is pretty dead but l4d have a solid niche base

l4d2

[mighty pike]

Didn't know there was a sequel

[wet flax]

what's a good melee weapon that couples well with the purgatus staff mainly for killing elites, ogryns, and hordes when on critical peril? I've been using the antax mk v combat axe with brutal momentum for the infinite cleave and it's really good but is there anything better?

[digital narwhal]

Chainsword or Mk5 Axe

But also, Critical Peril shouldn't be much of an issue with Purgatus;
Just quell the tiniest bit to get below 97% and then do a Secondary Fire.

[sand mauve]

plenty of traffic in SEA too. versus and campaign is pretty bangin

[digital narwhal]

Goddamn it

This was looking to be good

and then boom

mid modifiers

[mighty pike]

Sour Melk

[digital narwhal]

Just needed to replace Stamina with Unarmoured

but no

Melk had to say "Hehe 28% Shredder"

"Get fucked, Sparkhead"

Also, I really hope they Double or Triple Plasteel income sometime soon

We need more Plasteel

GOD DAMNIT HADRON

IT WAS SO GOOD

AND THEN

RUN 'N' GUN

Fuck

At least I can keep it for when they finish crafting in 2024

[fierce mural]

finally got the bastarding pick n mix penance

[digital narwhal]

Congrats

I'm gonna reroll Ranged Damage vs Elites

[fierce mural]

and the skin is not worth it can barely see the pattern on the trousers ;_:

and also nice staff dude

[digital narwhal]

Should I do Unarmoured or Ranged Weakpoint Damage?

[digital narwhal]

It's nice apart from Run 'n' Gun

This is like

my only staff with potential.

The game refuses to give me anything else.

[cyan notch]

we can tell

you dont exactly have a lot of staffs

[digital narwhal]

:')

Shared crafting materials and increased Plasteel pick ups when?

And more loot income when?

Oh btw

What Perk would be best paired with the +FlakArmour

+Ranged Weak Spot Damage% or +Unarmoured%?

for Voidstrike specifically.

[lethal folio]

Unarmoured for dregs.

[digital narwhal]

Now I just need to wait for Re-Bless

I've so far got almost a God Roll I think

Just

Run 'n' Gun is in the way.

[cyan notch]

why dont u get 25%

[digital narwhal]

You can?

Oh wait

I forgot Tier 4 Perks

Forgot they existed because I never see any

[shadow onyx]

[digital narwhal]

There we go

Cold Take:
All of Melk's Weapons should be 350 Modifiers or above.

[real lion]

hmm is the psyker penance bugged or im doing wrong?

[digital narwhal]

Which Penance?

[real lion]

to kill the dog with mind explosion

killed them few times already with it

but cant do it somehow

[digital narwhal]

Have to do it while they're pouncing

[real lion]

aha ok

but the penance says to kill with mind explosion how i could know to do that when the dog is pouncing

its confusing

[digital narwhal]

Time it

or

Use the secondary fire version that you can charge without a target

Charge it up, and then fire when they're mid pounce

[real lion]

the penances are so confusing or dont have much info

i wouldnt know to kill it when it pouncing if i wouldnt ask

[digital narwhal]

"Kill a pouncing Pox Hound with Brain Burst"

[real lion]

and would try to kill them endlessy with mind explosion and always fail

here where i live it says to kill it with mind explosion

[digital narwhal]

Ah

Btw, can anyone help me decide on a melee weapon pairing for Voidstrike?

Part of me wants to say Duelling Sword or Chainsword

But I don't know what makes a good Duelling Sword like I do a Chainsword or Force Sword.

[real lion]

i prefer force sword

still cant get used to play psyker

[frank hazel]

It takes a bit I found

Once you find your flow and realise that you need to play differently than the other classes it gets better

[real lion]

dont know which perks even to choose

my psyker is lvl 14

[digital narwhal]

A lot of the Psyker Talents don't synergise with Psyker as a whole, so there's also the case of having to realise that and learn how to play without very influential Talents a lot of the time.

Psyker's Talent Tree needs some major fixing

[ornate hamlet]

I have a hard time not running Duelling Sword on Psyker for the mobility it gives and with peril blocking its still a good choice to ress people with

[dense vault]

got myself a heavy axe with power on repeat hits and 3,5 seconds brutal momentum and high stat rolls

ain´t looking back

[digital narwhal]

Why specifically does Peril Blocking help with Revives?
(Been a while since I played, and so I forgot some things)

[dense vault]

because you won´t get guard broken when reviving

[ornate hamlet]

Duelling sword has low stamina so you get knocked out of it

[digital narwhal]

Oh wait, does Reviving put you into blocking stance?

[ornate hamlet]

Yes

[digital narwhal]

Ahhhhhh

[ornate hamlet]

That's the clinking sound if melee tries to hit you

[digital narwhal]

Well say, if I was comfortable with not having as much mobility, would Chainsword be a good pick?

Because I'm quite comfortable with Chainswords

Gotten very used to them

[ornate hamlet]

Does Psyker get Chainswords?

[digital narwhal]

Yes

[ornate hamlet]

I legit have no idea what melees they get

[ornate hamlet]

Its a good coice. Chainswords are pretty good overall.

[digital narwhal]

Awesome.

[ornate hamlet]

Does anyone know if Cleave increases targets for Surge staff?

[digital narwhal]

I doubt it.

I think it's fixed to 6 or 7 per cast.

[ornate hamlet]

It would be cool if it did though

[digital narwhal]

True

What I'd like to see is charge time corelating to how many First Targets you can hit with Surge

Thus increasing amount of total targets, and your killing power

Because the first targets take more damage of course

Make charging actually worth it

Instead of it just being Spam Cast: The Staff

[ornate hamlet]

Don't you do more overall damage if you fully charge?

[digital narwhal]

Barely.

It's generally just

not worth charging.

[ornate hamlet]

For sure.

But it does a decent amount more damage I think

The stun is just so much more valuable

[digital narwhal]

Like, you have more killing power with insta cast

and then Blaze Bolt the stunned enemies.

[digital narwhal]

Also:
Duelling Swords (Obviously)
Axes
Chainsword
Force Sword (Obviously)
Devil's Claw Swords
Daggers

and technically Staffs because of staff bonk lul

I wish they made the staff bonk a genuinely useful tool

[deft fiber]

Dagger Psyker, ugh.

[ornate hamlet]

Staff bonk should just be a shove

Dagger on anything but Zealot is a meme.

[deft fiber]

It should be something useful than actually 1 billion year swing.

[ornate hamlet]

Idk why the staves don't have special moves based on their use

[digital narwhal]

^

[ornate hamlet]

Imagine Surge having a melee electric shock that executes

Or Purge being a small flame explosion

[digital narwhal]

We didn't get unique Primary Fires apart from Purgatus

So why can't we get unique Special Actions?

[ornate hamlet]

Probably for the same reason

[digital narwhal]

A lot of the Psyker kit really should get some touch ups.

Both Psyker as a class, and their weapons.

[ornate hamlet]

I'm pretty sure they made flamer and then just put it on Purge

And were like "its infinite ammo and fast so make it worse"

[amber canopy]

Well.. It's a carbon copy of vermintides flamer staff and flamer weapon

[deft fiber]

They made a recolor before. A lot of efforts.

[ornate hamlet]

Both flamer and purge primary is just so wrong

[deft fiber]

Only unique staff for DT is a Surge.

[ornate hamlet]

Why don't they just make it a single flame

Since that's what it is

[digital narwhal]

Voidstrike fits with the current Blaze Bolt, since it's a high impact weapon with range.

Trauma staff should throw rocks with Telekinesis or have an AOE primary fire.

Surge should have a hitscan lightning bolt for it's primary fire.

[cyan notch]

throw rocks

tf

[digital narwhal]

It's a canon Psyker talent

Assail iirc

Pull boulders from the ground and launch them at people

[cyan notch]

that sounds goofy as shit

no thanks

[digital narwhal]

Okay Blooddrunk.

Anyway.

I think giving Psyker something that leans more into Telekinesis's side of manipulating objects instead of generating force (as Trauma and Voidstrike do rn) would be cool.

[lapis bay]

Sounds badass tbh but I don’t know if the engine can handle us tearing chunks of steel about. Maybe some of the barrels/boxes we see in the game? Maybe bringing over some detritus to make emergency cover

I want biomancy tbh

[digital narwhal]

I mean

[ornate hamlet]

Have you guys tried the 5 Wounds build yet.

[digital narwhal]

it'd probably just be generating an object below the ground and then pulling it out

Likely wouldn't affect the environment.

If Assail came to Darktide, I imagine the best fit would be generating a boulder type entity below the floor, and pulling it out creates a temporary shift to the look of the ground by making juts of rock stick out for a moment before dissipating.

Could be a Secondary Fire too, with a Primary Fire being a mid range shockwave, like a shove.

Kinda like Sienna's Beam Staff Secondary Fire but instead of applying DoT, it knocks back and does low damage.

[digital narwhal]

Biomancy would be cool too

We do kinda have it already with Surge staff

but literally just the Secondary Fire

so seeing more would be cool

A Biomancer Career in the future where you drain health from enemies and can heal your allies.

Would be cool.

[near gale]

That would be sick

[digital narwhal]

There's so much they could do with Psyker

[near gale]

Yeah

[digital narwhal]

but they instead just copied Sienna

Don't get me wrong

[near gale]

For a basis

[digital narwhal]

Trauma and Voidstrike are cool uses of Telekinesis

Using it to generate Force

But now I wanna see examples in game of Telekinesis's use of manipulating objects instead

[near gale]

Yeah

Throwing barrels AT enemies xD

[cyan notch]

i wanna see crafting finished

[digital narwhal]

Like, we got "Psykinetic"
When we could've gotten Telekinetic, Biomancer, Pyromancer etc

Me too.

[ornate hamlet]

All base classes are basically "bland, generic version"

[near gale]

I would rather they took their time, so we don't get glitches and such from that.

[digital narwhal]

Fair.

[ornate hamlet]

Vet: Gun
Zealot: Melee
Psyker: Weirdo
Ogryn: Strong

[digital narwhal]

But I'd still like to see more examples of Psyker abilities with Staffs and hopefully future Careers.

[ornate hamlet]

The subclass leaks looked promising at least

[digital narwhal]

Instead of just Sienna but Space.

[ornate hamlet]

But without new staffs it'll probably suck for Psyker even with a new subclass

So hopefully they add that as well

[near gale]

I used to not like the zap staff, but, now that I know how to use it... I am loving it.

I wish I could say the same for the voidstrike. :/

[ornate hamlet]

Voidstrike makes the happy chemicals pop though

The noise it makes

https://tenor.com/view/modern-family-sofia-vergara-screeching-screech-runs-away-gif-21689825

[digital narwhal]

I like Voidstrike because I don't wanna lose missions to the Veteran not taking care of ranged threats.

Having range makes me happy.

[ornate hamlet]

We fired a Voidstrike and Bolter into a horde

And the game cut the audio

[digital narwhal]

So when I see a buzz buzz sword Vet we don't insta lose Diff4 and above.

[ornate hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-laugh-gif-14348867

[digital narwhal]

Still, why are Vets so addicted to the Power Sword?

I thought they picked their class to be a ranged fighter.

[rapid flicker]

cuz it slashes

[near gale]

it's a jack of all trades melee

[digital narwhal]

Not a discount Zealot.

[cyan notch]

i just bb stuff down and go up and hit em with ascendant blaze with 6 stacks boom ranged enemies dead

[ornate hamlet]

Power Sword solves melee for Vet

[near gale]

It hurts elites, it hurts hordes...

[ornate hamlet]

Take out, activate, swing

Repeat

And their stamina is dogshit

So they can't actually manage hordes with shoves

[digital narwhal]

I've seen Vets never take out their ranged weapon in Diff4 and above though because of it lol

And it's only been Power Sword Vets

[ornate hamlet]

Meanwhile in Damnation I only see Vets with lasguns shoot into hordes

And never use melee

[digital narwhal]

Ah yes we have a Psyker, an Ogryn and a Zealot keeping the horde off me

better shoot the horde.

[near gale]

I've legit never not used my ranged AND melee in a mission... as any character...

[ornate hamlet]

You're joking but...

https://tenor.com/view/sad-anime-gif-21889993

I've seen it

Literally 5 poxwalkers

[rapid flicker]

all I play is damnation and i’d rather have a vet with a gun who can pick targets

[ornate hamlet]

And they're spraying into them with the lasgun

[digital narwhal]

I bet it's not even a Recon Lasgun

It's Infantry, isn't it?

[ornate hamlet]

Yes.

And they somehow ran out of ammo

[digital narwhal]

[ornate hamlet]

Constantly

I mean

[digital narwhal]

I love and hate Vets who don't know how to do their job.

[near gale]

Wait with a kantrael?

[ornate hamlet]

Not somehow

[ornate hamlet]

Yes

[near gale]

xii or IV/Ia?

[ornate hamlet]

When I say they shot at everything

I mean they shot at everything

The only time they used melee was when they had no ammo

[near gale]

I've only ran out of ammo with a xii when I had to shoot like... 50000 ranged mobs

[ornate hamlet]

No clue. I was too busy laughing to care

[near gale]

and that was on zealot

:/

Or when I let my teammates take ALL of the ammo

[ornate hamlet]

Lasgun into carapace is also

A great experience

The clink sound is fun to hear as the Vet panics

[near gale]

Lasgun into carapace is only viable on the zealot

Otherwise? Out comes the power sword...

[digital narwhal]

Chastise The Wicked has a weird effect of making enemies you shoot count as lower armour, right?

So Carapace counts as Flak and Flak counts as Unarmoured

[near gale]

idk, but, every hit is a crit as well I think

[ornate hamlet]

To some extent, yes.

[near gale]

The main time I am hitting carapace armor as a vet with a kantrael is when I hit a shield on a bulwark or the armor on a reaper.

[digital narwhal]

Bulwarks and Reapers don't even have Carapace iirc

They have Flak

[ornate hamlet]

They have parts

[near gale]

reapers do, their gun

[digital narwhal]

Ah

[near gale]

bulwark's shields are carapace too

[ornate hamlet]

Their wrists have carapace

Bulwark's shields aren't carapace

They're immunity

[digital narwhal]

Shield is just Shield

[ornate hamlet]

Except to Knife stabs

[near gale]

They are counted as carapce in the meat grinder

[ornate hamlet]

If you hit the shield it doesn't show anything though

[digital narwhal]

Shield is Shield

[ornate hamlet]

Unless you do it from behind which is

Uh

Weird

[near gale]

It always tells me carapace... :/

[ornate hamlet]

And might count their hands

[ornate hamlet]

From the front?

[near gale]

Yeah

[digital narwhal]

It's Darktide, what'd you expect? Consistent and informative information?

[near gale]

[ornate hamlet]

I get no indicator of anything if I hit the shield

From the front

[near gale]

idk, maybe I was hitting the back when I saw the armor type

[ornate hamlet]

You can hit the shield from the side/back

Kind of

But I'm unsure if that's the wrist guard

Or the actual shield

[near gale]

Yes

[ornate hamlet]

Because the shield code is actually just

If the player is 180 degrees in front of the shield

Take no damage

I'm pretty sure I got this one in some weird buggy situation

Like I was nowhere near any ledge when I suddenly got it

[near gale]

Maybe they clipped through the floor

[honest ore]

Any tips for Pick n Mix, the only real penance I have for this class left and I'm struggling to find groups to help/not kill them before I can?

[crystal jolt]

Me and a friend did it the other day. Ogryn with shield scope out an area for elites. Soften up any elite that takes more than 1 BB. Works best on groups of gunners or ragers. It took us easily 25 tries, but just keep restarting the beginning of heresy / high intensity heresys and hope for a good spawn for elite groups.

Not sure about feat setup, I was the ogryn.

[honest ore]

Cheers, it's just so counter productive for team play

[crystal jolt]

Yeah. Loads of the penances are.

[deft fiber]

Welcome to Darktide.

[ornate hamlet]

If you run 5 Wounds you can blow yourself up infinitely as long as you don't get corruption

[crystal jolt]

Its best to just go as a 2 stack and get the bots killed.

[deft fiber]

It's not about blow up, i's about BB 5 targets in 10 seconds and kill them.

[ornate hamlet]

Ah.

[honest ore]

I'll give that a go

[ornate hamlet]

At least that one is potentially possible

In a real game

[deft fiber]

Yeah, blowing up? Yeah, if stars favor you. But yeah, more doable than BB 5 targets.

[ornate hamlet]

BB 5 targets you just need 5 gunners shooting the Shield Ogryn

[crystal jolt]

Tbh in the 25 or so times that it took us to get it, we were super close maybe 10-12 times. We got fucked over by a bot killing an elite, the psyker exploding or getting jumped by disablers.

[ornate hamlet]

I feel like BBing 5 elites shouldn't be that hard if you get a 4 stack team

[deft fiber]

Well, like none of penances.

[crystal jolt]

"you just need 5 gunners" good luck with a spawn like that. They love throwing them in the middle of goon shooters and pairing them with reapers

[stray pond]

Nah you get spawns like that all the time in Heresy and Damnation

[ornate hamlet]

I mean yeah they're thrown into other enemies

But if your Shield Ogryn just stands there and you have a Vet that snipes the normal shooters

[stray pond]

I got my pick n mix in a pub hi-intensity heresy

[crystal jolt]

It is also that on heresy theres only a handful of elites that go down in 1 BB

[stray pond]

Yep. Bombers, gunners, shotgunners, and snipers

I did have a case where I almost got it off of 4 bombers before

[ornate hamlet]

Top quality

[stray pond]

To be fair those fuckers might as well be punching since once you go down you ain't getting back up without help

[ornate hamlet]

I love how pathetic Ogryns look being held by a dog

[crystal jolt]

Its weird seeing ogryns getting pinned by hounds

[ornate hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/jinx-seinfeld-gif-5355403

[crystal jolt]

Lol

[stray pond]

At least 3 characters have things they can do that should dislodge dogs.

[ornate hamlet]

All Ogryns are clearly scared of doggos

[stray pond]

Psykers: Press F and knock the dog off. Zealots: Press F and knock the dog off. Ogryn... How the fuck are they even pinned? But press F and knock the dog off.

We should be able to use our special skill or whatever it's called to push the dog off

[crystal jolt]

The mutants have to punch the ogryns in the face because they're too big, but a dog? Nah get pinned.

[ornate hamlet]

Speaking of Gunner spawns

[crystal jolt]

It still annoys me that the ogryn and zealot charge doesn't ignore trapper nets

[ornate hamlet]

If Zealot could do this then crit Zealots would steamroll the dogs even harder

[stray pond]

I'm just sayin' it would make sense

We have a Psykinetic fucking push

And we can't use it to push a dog off of us

[ornate hamlet]

Its hard to focus when a dog is biting your face

[stray pond]

Dogs shouldn't even be perma stuns

[ornate hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/city-hunter-ryo-saeba-shrug-i-dont-know-i-dont-care-gif-14623021

[stray pond]

Nah, nah, we use the push in perilous situations all the time to keep ourselves from blowing up

We shouldn't just be treated like an unattended toddler at a dog park

[ornate hamlet]

I'm going to run BB spam build in Damnation

Lets go

[stray pond]

On a different note, I've been upgrading a new FS and I'm kinda hoping I get a T4 Blazing Spirit on gold

Deflector would also be cool but

This is just sorta the best FS I have laying around

[ornate hamlet]

Lets go

Why are all the BB talents so meh

[stray pond]

Wouldn't you want Kinetic Barrage for even more BB?

Why Quicken?

[ornate hamlet]

Quell

Gotta BB all the time

No time to quell

[stray pond]

There's so little synergy in the Psyker talents, god

[ornate hamlet]

The best you got is some weird Soul Blaze

But the level 30 already does it so well that its like, why even use the other ones

2 stacks of Soulbalze would be nice if it was on any enemy killed

[stray pond]

Wrack and Ruin is garbage

[ornate hamlet]

Yeah

[stray pond]

It does not apply enough soul blaze at all

It's fun if you're doing a pyromancer themed build but it ain't good at all

[ornate hamlet]

It should apply 8 Soul Blaze minimum

[stray pond]

Lets meet in the middle with 6

[ornate hamlet]

If its only Elites and Specials

Does 6 stacks do enough to kill horde mobs?

[stray pond]

Pretty sure

[ornate hamlet]

And 3 metres is so garbage

[stray pond]

It needs either a huge range buff or a buff to the amount of soul blaze yeah

[ornate hamlet]

Both

[stray pond]

Then the other two wouldn't be worth considering

[ornate hamlet]

I'd still run Peril Resistance

[stray pond]

Which speaking of: Inner Tranquility could be good for your BB build

[ornate hamlet]

Yeah I considered it but you also blow your load all the time

So idk

[cyan notch]

kb is better if you wanna spam bbs

[ornate hamlet]

I know

But I don't want to just spam BBs

I want to shout SUCH POWER

And spam BBs

[stray pond]

WORSHIP ME OR DIE

[ornate hamlet]

Its just really weird that KB doesn't take away your Warp Charges

[cyan notch]

but then u use ult and bb one time and youre at max peril

so yay?

[stray pond]

Nah not really

[deft fiber]

On malice probably

[ornate hamlet]

If Asceding Blaze gives one stack per charge then it does kill on Damnation

[lethal folio]

6 stacks can kill elite gunners on damnation.

[ornate hamlet]

It takes a while but

[stray pond]

Is soul blaze's damage dependent on what applied it

[ornate hamlet]

No

At least not significantly

[stray pond]

Okay then yeah it should be fine

[digital narwhal]

At this Point, the Psyker needs a full Talent Tree rework I think.

[ornate hamlet]

A few of them are fine

And there's definitely some synergy

Its kind of like Zealot

Having a dumb low HP build that's just bad.

And a lot of dead feats

[digital narwhal]

Well yeah, but a few out of 18 is-
not great.

[deft fiber]

I hope your build will work for you

[stray pond]

But 6 stacks of martydom ;^)

[cyan notch]

yea 6 stacks ascendant blaze nukes a lot

[ornate hamlet]

I'll stack your martyrdom

[stray pond]

Oh trust me I don't need help stacking that

[digital narwhal]

It'd be better if we had more consistent ways of generating Warp Charges with Staves and the Force Sword

[ornate hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/lord-of-the-rings-for-death-and-glory-lotr-gif-16391462

[stray pond]

There's a reason I run one wound curio

[digital narwhal]

but we don't.

[ornate hamlet]

What is Ascending Blaze

[stray pond]

Ascendant Blaze-

[digital narwhal]

Ascendant Blaze is like

one of the only synergistic Talents we have.

[wet belfry]

Psykinetic's Wrath expends all Warp Charges and applies stacks of Soulblaze to enemies hit based on the number of Warp Charges expended. Enemies killed by your Soulblaze effects (from any source) have a 10% chance to grant you a Warp Charge.

[stray pond]

I keep trying to play my Psyker like Sienna Unchained

[ornate hamlet]

KB also lets you get full stacks rapidly and with Psykinetic's Aura you can get it back quickly.

[deft fiber]

But Aura + Barrage nearly the same you trying to do, but you cast BB much faster for less cost.

[digital narwhal]

As I said, it'd be better if we had more consistent ways of generating Warp Charges with Staves and the Force Sword.

[ornate hamlet]

Th-that was a rhetorical question

[ornate hamlet]

Yes but I don't want to do it faster for less cost.

I want to shout enemies away

And pretend my +15% damage will help team-mates

[stray pond]

Fun fact that +15% damage also applies to your BB

[digital narwhal]

Force Sword, Voidstrike, Trauma and Surge rely on Kinetic Flayer and Psychic Communion entirely.

[stray pond]

It totally isn't supposed to but it does

[ornate hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/kotonoha-akane-kotonoha-akane-kotonoha-aoi-aoi-gif-18077709

I mean that's not super helpful still

[stray pond]

It's a bug™️

[ornate hamlet]

But that's, uh, something?

[deft fiber]

Since aura reduce your CD for 1.5 sec , you can shout as much as you can as soon you have elites to kill

[ornate hamlet]

1.5s isn't 15% out of 30s though.

[deft fiber]

It's not a 30 seconds CD lol.

Afaik.

[wet belfry]

Psyker is the only class that has to invest talents to fix our iconics (warp charges)

Literary half of the issues with the class is right there.

[cyan notch]

pretty sure its 30s

[ornate hamlet]

Yeah I'm trying to find it

But I'm pretty sure all actives are 30s

It would have to be 10s for 15% to be 1.5s though.

And there's no way its 10s

[stray pond]

I'm so looking forward to being able to extract blessings, it'll be so nice

[deft fiber]

For some reason 10 second are floating in my mind.

Mb warp trickery.

[idle bay]

I heard something about Psychic Communion bing bugged. It stacks +4% for each psyker in the team with it. But only on of Psyker at any given moment benefits from this crazy good chance of free Warp charge.

[blissful kestrel]

Not an official source, but Royal w/ Cheese guide says 30s

[ornate hamlet]

It seems correct.

[idle bay]

Nerf shartpshooters!

[ornate hamlet]

Warp RNG

You can Kinetic Flayer on BB, right?

Now what weapons should I bring to support my brain bursting journey.

[idle bay]

But imagine 4 Psykers 16% Chance of Warp Charge on any team kill. It will be max charges on every psyker in seconds of any engagement!

[ornate hamlet]

And then they died

Wait

Wyck

You're onto something

Quicken

On 4 Psykers

That get 6 stacks constantly

Perma CC everything

https://tenor.com/view/anime-naruto-sasuke-uchiha-team-seven-stare-gif-17156744

I need a squad

The finest of Psykers

[cyan notch]

4 zealots what

[ornate hamlet]

Listen I'm a Zealot main

Warp fuckery

[magic nebula]

Is this why nothing makes sense so far?

[ornate hamlet]

Yes.

You can't see the logic with your incomparable mind

[half iron]

this is like that moment in among us when someone tries to make the story about how they were in electrical, far away from any events that transpired earlier

[idle bay]

I'm back to [Enjoying/Suffering] Kinetic Defelection on Steroids build. Or "Dried Rice Paper Tank' build

It's good , it's working.. but it's merciless to any of your mistakes

Amount of stress in generates is goood 🙂

[cyan notch]

block everything build is cool until you get shot from the side/back or get dogged or flamed or bombed or grabbed by a mutie or get trapped

[idle bay]

Excatly, so i go into tank mode only when it's sensible and riskless to do so

[deft fiber]

Informed opinion should be rejected by the perseverance of faith.

[digital narwhal]

Psyker needs less RNG in their Talents, and a more defined gameplay loop.

Pls OverweightFish, Pls.

Load into my first mission of the day.

Immediately crash.

Thanks FatShark.

:D

[cyan notch]

ur welcome

dont forget to check out the cash shop and hourly shop

stay tuned for our next update anytime from the next week to the next 9 months

[west galleon]

Should i swap my deflector force sword that i "luckily" got around level 20(?) for one that has stats that reflect my level or just keep that and be happy about the blessing?

Because thats my only deflectlor melee

[deft fiber]

If your FS have decent stat distribution why not, but i doubt it have any good base

Good base > deflector. Because you actually need go to melee and defend yourself.

[west galleon]

Yeh thats why i am asking

K so im going with the new one, there's quite the difference

Maybe i'll even get lucky, my "new" voidstrike staff has full sprint and stamina perks/blessings

[deft fiber]

Well, if you running malice and lower you can keep one you are using.

[west galleon]

If only i could scrap my old equipment, the scrolling around is so tedious

[worthy wedge]

You mean like selling the stuff you don't use?

[west galleon]

Breaking it down into components for crafting x)

[worthy wedge]

oh, yeah that would be nice.

[cyan notch]

unfortunately fatshark has been doing absolutely nothing for about a month now

[lethal plover]

[idle bay]

Sadly at cyrrent state with bugged stamina curios it's impossible to passively tank Demonhost of FS with KD with 65% Block and 7 stamina. You have to dodge...

[lethal plover]

it's like elden ring first month of PvP all over again. no updates, nothing

[shut valve]

Why does Bulwark block Trauma staff secondary when the epicenter is behind him unless you stand behind him?

[cyan notch]

fs quells too slow

[lethal plover]

bulwark only checks your position. not the spell circle's position

lazy coding

[shut valve]

Seems scuffed

[idle bay]

If it build up Peril slower it will work too

[shut valve]

Hope they change it

[lethal plover]

yeah. at least the Pinky in Doom Eternal allows you to detonate rocket behind its ass

[cyan notch]

maybe but i dont think its possible

takes more block cost than other weapons too lol

[lethal plover]

honestly FS is gonna let this game die without content or communication

[idle bay]

Just +6 more stamina into the equation will work miracles 🙂

[shut valve]

I don't think so. At least they had the survey so I guess they do want to improve stuff

[frail berry]

plz plz plz good blessings

[still hearth]

Except for Vet grenades

[cyan notch]

dont worry we will maybe get a community update this week at the earliest

[lethal plover]

darn. I guess we truly are the bastard

[shut valve]

I'm expecting next week to be honest

[cyan notch]

and then in that update they will say uhhhh guys sorry but we dont want to give a timeline for crafting but we are working on it ok thats it see u in 2 months

[idle bay]

There will be more content in form of few more misspelled surveys and probably that's it 🙂

[deft fiber]

[pliant junco]

o m g

[frail berry]

Doh! +2% unstable power ><

[cyan notch]

riposte next

[frail berry]

Omnissiah be praised!!

[pliant junco]

need 20% block and its perfect

[cyan notch]

nice also i hate you that should be mine

[cyan notch]

nah +1 stamina is better for block

[still hearth]

Does the BB extra damage stack if you have several Psykers with it?

[pliant junco]

why

[frail berry]

which should I try and re-roll for stam or block?

[still hearth]

Probably carapace? Does Fsword do anything against crushers

[cyan notch]

probably specialist melee damage

[cyan notch]

yes it nukes them

[pliant junco]

special heavy hit hard

[still hearth]

In that case ye specialists

[stray pond]

Yeah definitely reload specialist into stamina or block efficiency

[shut valve]

I think you are going to use your other tools for specialists, no?

[cyan notch]

even so 8% is pathetic

[pliant junco]

anyway you os specialist with one specizl

[still hearth]

Halp

[frail berry]

rolled 20% flack

will keep trying 😄

whew, there +1 stam

[pliant junco]

can you share the grid dmg sheet ?

[frail berry]

ya

just through inspect?

[cyan notch]

just the way the peril block formula is