psyker-class

[stuck basalt]

it is useless perk, you already can shoot while walking, this one let you sprint and shoot, you don't sprint and shoot , it is bad

[steel egret]

My top staffs have either run'n'gun or terrifying barrage.

I didnt even know they all did..

[idle bay]

Imagine that you have Surge staff that sucks ass vs dregs. And you have pack of dreg shooters 50m away from you grinning at you.
So you hold shift and start running at them while blasting their heads with LMB blasts and actually SUPPESSING them and by the time you reach them to chop thier dcks off with an Axe - 75% of them will be dead already

[stuck basalt]

just run away, not run to to them

[frigid marten]

lmb dard is actually good at suppression yes

[steel egret]

stamina effciency and run!

[idle bay]

No it's run to them to have an Axe time with them

[steel egret]

Perfect run build

[wet belfry]

Any failure in those series of actions either leads to death or severe health loss.

[stuck basalt]

please make a video prove it

[frigid marten]

no ammo and no stamina are the realy mvp for a psyker.

[summer prairie]

BiS

[idle bay]

Psykers playing Darkest Dungeon with korean MMO RNG while others playing Darktide. We have more fun than others

[steel egret]

Easy run, easy game.

[idle bay]

I strongly advise , my siblings, to take Ogryn breaks from playing pskers for a day or to - just to vent Frustration and then go back to venting Peril

[steel egret]

Nah I'll just gaze to abyss.

this is fine.

I just need some plasteel.

[fringe agate]

From the zealot's perspective

Least eventful damnation psyker death

[idle bay]

You forgot to add line [Pained/Maniacal Laughter]

[steel egret]

Cant refund the game anymore! [Pained/Maniacal Laughter]

[idle bay]

Reason i'm using 1-st feat in last column and 3 Curios with ability regeneration time - Laughter happens more often

[steel egret]

I guess that would something to try out of boredom.

just to see if 12% is counted as 12% or 4 out of 96 and so on.

[idle bay]

My only regret as Psyker main - i can't switch personality from Seer (or whatever it called) to Loner. You start chiiled and dreamy , and after ~200+ hours you totally with a Loner personality

[steel egret]

I've started to use 1 of last feat tree aswell as I have come to conclusion that I will do anything to avoid doing BB.

[idle bay]

And making Loner accent in your head when speaking

[steel egret]

You picked seer?

[idle bay]

When you have revolver vet in squad - you have to use BB to get rid of SNipers for a team

[steel egret]

Isnt that the one who talks about beloved constantly.

[idle bay]

1st personality with Beloved

[steel egret]

I just leave if I see something I dont have time to deal with.

I can always pick the kids from Heretic kindergarden.

[glossy escarp]

I picked the female voice that sounds pretty similar to sienna

Real anxious all the time and usually nice to people

My favorite one by far

[idle bay]

Some of the Zealot voices sound similar to Kerillian (though not the same VA).

Seer (Psyker) and Agitator (Zealot , 1st personality that almost NO ONE selects , and that one that calls the team Imbeciles all the time) - seems to be the same VA

[hollow portal]

So. My Psyker called Beloved a "she". I don't think that is the Emperor he is talking to....

https://tenor.com/view/zoom-oh-no-realization-anime-gif-15981055

[idle bay]

Seer calls beloved both she and he. Yes. If you remember old stories that Emperor perceived by mortals differently for each mortal. And Psyker may see multiple versions for Big E. Even version from Brighthammer that have awesome goatee ™

[hollow portal]

Yeah but the Emperor is still a He. All versions seen by others is still male.

However. There are beings that are either or both

https://tenor.com/view/slaanesh-warhammer-total-war-gif-24197491

[idle bay]

Thank you! Different VAs then.. though there are similarities in their voices that made me think otherwise.

[hollow portal]

I kind of wish we could change our character VA because I started with the Seer because of the interesting Voice Lines. But now I want to use the Savant because that would match my character better

[idle bay]

One of versions that i have about "Beloved" that it's a demon of Slaanesh that pretends to be Big E. Line about "Beloved wants all of you to relax and be chiill" (or something like that) made me think so.

[hollow portal]

Okay yeah. It's a Slaaneshi daemon. Poggers

[cyan notch]

i think thats planned

[idle bay]

Aquillas option to change voice ? 🙂

[round jay]

I don’t remember, is the seer the one dreaming all day long 🤔

[hollow portal]

It being a Slaaneshi daemon would also explain certain off the wall comments like it mentioning that Felinids are very attractive

Also isn't one of the mentions of Beloved being "I wouldn't want to see my Beloved shackled to that Golden Throne anyway"

[cyan notch]

yea seer is the crazy one

[frank hazel]

I haven't heard all the lines but I love Seer

He's just fun

[round jay]

for my beloved

[hollow portal]

Their perception is torn between the Materium and the Warp so much so that they seemingly cannot tell one from the other, or when they are dreaming or awake. So just rolls with them being in a dream 24/7

Also an interesting line from the Seer is them mentioning that Hadron is not in their dream. Just a void where Hadron should be.

Summary: Hadron is a blank

[round jay]

Every time I play, I hear a new sentence I haven’t before

[wet jacinth]

Bold of people to assume the "Voices" are the Emperor

[hollow portal]

Yeah. I'm more and more of the opinion that it's a Slaaneshi daemon

[jagged vault]

no it's just the pox hound rounding the corner

[round jay]

Even the greatest man need some company after such a long time in the warp

[orchid nest]

I mean, the seer thinks it is. What it actually is, is up for debate. I think most people understand that.

[idle bay]

Does any of siblings try to hear what Peril Whispers are saying? 🙂

[wet jacinth]

When you see and hear Daemonhosts whispers about the voices

[wet jacinth]

What heresy is this

[idle bay]

In semi-decent headphones you can discern words in those wishpers

[toxic lintel]

The Peril Whispers are just trying to scam you

[round jay]

Would be amazing to get some word from "beloved" when reaching 100%

Even if it nearly mean anything

[hollow portal]

I love this line of thought. Low-key a Slaaneshi sorcerer fighting Nurgle's forces

[wet jacinth]

The Whispers
"Hello, we've been trying to reach you about your car's extended warranty"

Or "Hey Niko, Let's play Bowling"

[idle bay]

Locally we mostly have "Do you want to take a loan from our bank" (from actual bank) or "This is bank's security about your credit card" (Scammers), though later become more rare due to .. will not be mentioning real world

[round jay]

mmmh, i only have "true" calls from internet companies to sell me another contracts

I have great internet and prices, leave me alone now

[still hearth]

Do you guys have any cool tricks for Psyker that aren't obvious?

[idle bay]

I have quite a decent anti-spam call filter on my phone 🙂

[toxic lintel]

Try spinning?

[still hearth]

All the time?

[hollow portal]

Same.

[toxic lintel]

Honestly best trick with Psyker is learning when's best to switch between ranged and melee

That and using your ult to reduce peril mid fight, great for staves

[round jay]

Sniping ennemies that are really far, staff have no falldown

Or use your power until you’re about to explode before using your special, it gives you another attack for free

[orchid nest]

I would say the ole jump bb. all the elites and stuff are taller than regular enemies, you can get snipers and bombers and stuff with reasonable success in the middle of stuff by learning to kind of jump and bb and place crosshairs right

[still hearth]

Seems like there's not really that much hidden about Psyker in that case

Does it work to stay around 95% peril and use the secondary on all staffs without exploding?

[round jay]

Yeah, try to kill elite only when your sharpshooter is not able to do so…

[still hearth]

Or is that mostly just BB, lightning?

[round jay]

Yep

[still hearth]

Nice nice

[steel egret]

Dont use BB on stuff you can just use staff.

or gun if thats the case.

[still hearth]

What's a gun? I'm a space wizard.

[round jay]

bb is only for target far away, and if there’s no sharpshooter to get rid of them

[steel egret]

Go buy space wizard weapons and find out.

[round jay]

Otherwise you charge bb, someone kill it before you and you just got 30% perils

[still hearth]

I always play around 90-95 peril anyway

Perfect

[steel egret]

edging with peril feats is pretty common.

[still hearth]

The only time I've had it fuck me is if I'm just starting a charge and someone instantly kills it and my charge moves over without me noticing and I go "why is my head exploding"

[hollow portal]

The Seer: using too many warp powers.

Beloved:

[still hearth]

I see Psykers are also perverts.

[digital mural]

Indeed

[steel egret]

Only seers.

[orchid nest]

it would be cool if our ult did 100% quell still like in the closed beta. and the zealot one too for that matter that was also nerfed

[long wharf]

I mean, basically everyone is a pervert according to someone else

[digital mural]

Are orcs perverts?

[hollow portal]

I mean. From what has been gathered. The Seer is constantly in communion with a Slaaneshi daemon.

So.

Yeah

[steel egret]

No.

[still hearth]

Now that's some heresy.

[digital mural]

Thats hot

[digital mural]

Very good

[hollow portal]

Orcs. No.

Orcas. Yes.

[digital mural]

Burst their brains, now!

[maiden wolf]

Eyyyy! I found this great roll in the shop. Now if only I weren't psyker.

[hollow portal]

Equip it and use the warp power called "Gun"

[digital mural]

Warp give me strength! blows out a heretics brains with a .44 magnum

[cyan notch]

i really like the revolver but man is it ass on psyker

[hot zephyr]

No, unfortunately I don't have one of those yet, but that is partly what inspired the idea. I got a pretty solid accatran from Melk with nice perks and thought this would be a fun way to test it.

[maiden wolf]

There's an infernus accatran in my shop with the perk that boosts your crit chance with each headshot. The other stats are meh though.

I didn't buy it though

It would be great if there were a force melee that generated lots of peril and had good crowd control, as something to pair with non-force primaries

[hot zephyr]

Yeah, I'm assuming I'll replace the blessing on it, but it rolled +25% to unarmoured and +25% to infested naturally and it's got excellent base stats

So just shreds hordes already

[sudden trellis]

Force sword?

[maiden wolf]

it doesn't kill stuff that well, I was thinking something that generates peril in exchange for really good horde clear.

I've been working on a concept for a force glaive that does something like that.

[sudden trellis]

are you sure? I usually nuke things using the alt attack

feels like a quick brainburst

[hot zephyr]

Devil's claw + peril block feat would probably be a good candidate

Cus it's got the parry secondary activation as well for controlling how quickly you generate peril

[maiden wolf]

Yeah, I actually have a really good devil's claw. 380 roll MK1

[cyan notch]

you need savage sweep with wrath or rampage or something

cuz holy shit is it ass without it

[maiden wolf]

I'll keep my eyes peeled

[hot zephyr]

Yeah, something that helps +%cleave or ignore hit mass would be ideal

[cyan notch]

it really doesnt cut it without savage sweep in damnation and probably heresy too

[maiden wolf]

I'm gonna keep my fingers crossed when I consecrate it again

[cyan notch]

thats really nice

i like mk1 too for heavy spam

[maiden wolf]

yeah

its totally braindead

it swings pretty slow though

[cyan notch]

well it says improved attack speed in close combat

[frank hazel]

I've heard a few various ones, some indecipherable. You can hear people screaming and other things but I've heard "come to us little one" and "give in" etc

[warped perch]

What are the BiS curios? I’m running two toughness one wound but idk what perks I should look out for

[digital mural]

They got cookies tho?

[steel egret]

I run 2 health and 1 toughness.

[jovial frigate]

i run 2 hp 1 stam because ||I've prepared myself for the nerf bat ||

[orchid nest]

2 health is a pretty good baseline as they said. add another hp/tough/wound/stam, whatever you want.

[trail orbit]

what in the actual mercies of the emporer is the quicken feat even useful for?

[steel egret]

Thats.. last one of last feats tree?

as in 3.

[orchid nest]

It's 1 in the last row. the cooldown reduction per warp charge one

[steel egret]

it makes Ability faster.

its good if you dont bb or dont want ascendant flame.

[orchid nest]

best case use for it is you don't care about expending the warp charges like data said and you have quietitude

and are set up for passive charges

probably the least useful one right now but I could actually see it becoming pretty good incidentally with certain balance changes

[hot zephyr]

The Chainsword has this problem too, it's got a really nice attack combo with H > H > L > L for cleaving down hordes but you really have to lead the combo with a Push and then rely on keeping things staggered with the heavy sweeps and the first (third) light attack

[maiden wolf]

I run 2 toughness one wounds, but I'm thinking of replacing a toughness with stamina once they fix stamina curios.

[long wharf]

it's Darktide O'clock

check them shops

[maiden wolf]

I've tried running it with the ult regen on elite kill, its pretty cool to be able to kill some elites with BB, expend the warp charges, then kill more to get your ult back really fast. I think quicken would be way more viable if it also increased the quell accoridng to the number of warp charges.

[orchid nest]

yeah it needs some other change because that just ends up being a worse version of kinetic barrage + psy aura

[warped perch]

I thought toughness was more useful than health

[orchid nest]

health is pretty good. it's kind of counterintuitive but because of the high damage multiplier a lot of enemies have against toughness and our low base stacking toughness doesn't actually take you much further. once they chip into your health you take a lot less than how much they deal to your toughness. something like a shotgunner you're going to take health damage either way, but with health it'll be less of a % to your total even after the extra toughness

[bronze hound]

I invest in health, feels good

1 wound + 2 health is my go to

[frigid marten]

corruption tend to eat wound

wound connected to health % is not a great thing for wound.

[orchid nest]

I personally prefer my team mates to have a wound even though it isn't necessary. Mainly because even if you don't go down twice between medicae, people always play differently while on 1 wound and screen desaturation. they are more cautious and defensive than if they weren't and that kind of passive play is generally dangerous in tide games

[elfin crystal]

you want wounds at higher lvl

[frigid marten]

Wound can be wasted. Health is never wasted.

[orchid nest]

the times you lose a wound to corruption and it's not a grim is pretty rare. I think there is good arguments to be had with taking it or not taking it but I don't think personally that is a strong one

[hot zephyr]

See I run a wound curio for a different reason: Stupid revives.

[elfin crystal]

i run wounds because on damnation 30 hp won't make much of a difference. you'll get 3-4 shot anyway

[hot zephyr]

Sometimes you get teammates who just quickly rush to revive you and don't clear the danger, and you res into like a bunch of fire on the ground or in the middle of a horde

So often you'll get revived only to drop immediately because you respawn with no toughness

[orchid nest]

besides, even if you consider it on purely a corruption basis having an extra wound lets you reset corruption back to the first wound before it hits the second by exploding on purpose and telling your team and you aren't on a single wound still

[elfin crystal]

having a wound also makes it so you don't have to deal with the bright screen that often too

[wet belfry]

+3 max stamina will be pretty seductive when it works tbh.

[orchid nest]

these arguments always remind me of another similar one. I had a zealot yesterday who was one of the "I don't need the medicae, I'm stacking the damage bonus" ones. and you know what.. he was an excellent player. but it also still wiped us when we had a very unfortunate double bomber in the worst spot and he couldn't escape in time. it's the same hubris

[hot zephyr]

Yup, what is optimal doesn't matter on paper, it matters in-game, when brown pants happen

[elfin crystal]

yep what you wanna survive is the clutch. the rest doesn,t matter that much

[orchid nest]

with all that being said though I don't think wound curios were a good idea in general and they should give everyone one more by default and add offensive curio blessings

and remove them

or the other option, removing them and not having heresy/damnation remove one I guess

[elfin crystal]

i agree with that. i don't think it really brings much to build variety

[frigid marten]

Or separate wounds from health

[hot zephyr]

I kinda am ok with a wound being a choice. If I'm confident that I don't need it, and would rather have health or stam or toughnesss that's a nice benefit. Extra toughness in particular can be really beneficial

It does add that extra gear-check level to Heresy and Damnation too that keeps underleveled/undergeared from randomly jumping into a group that aren't ready forit

[frigid marten]

Toughness is extremely inefficent.

Unless veteran

[orchid nest]

the datamined buff shop system seems like it will achieve that anyways. one of the purchasable single mission buffs was one wound. if it's reasonably priced docket wise or something people will just buy it for their heresy/damnation missions and toss their wound curio

just nip it in the bud before you even get there I say

[hot zephyr]

That's the opposite. veterans are too efficient on toughness and will likely be brought in line with everyone else.

[frigid marten]

Toughness is extremely inconsistent: some enemy pierce it (dogs) some damage strip it (fire) melee is x2 against tough. Some % blee throug

[hot zephyr]

See you need credit sinks in a game, otherwise people will just have piles of useless currency. When you hit max level, there's very little you need credits for. The shop is a thing but you earn more in a single heresey/damn run than most items cost credit wise

[orchid nest]

Yeah but there is more interesting other buffs that you could purchase, instead of defaulting to the "ok heres my 1 wound, do I buy anything else?"

it just limits the system more than it should because you have to be able to earn a certain profit after the buffs for the system to work

[hot zephyr]

Yeah but profits aren't really that variable in this game. You either complete the mission and get paid a fixed amount, or don't and get 33% or based off % complete or whatever?

[orchid nest]

It just feels like solving a problem that shouldn't exist to me I guess

[hot zephyr]

So it's pretty easy to do the math, and let's face it, we're all nerds, we're gonna do the math.

[elfin crystal]

i think ultimately toughness isn't that needed on psyker. if you have a high quell staff, quelling for 70-100% is enough to refill your toughness pretty quickly. you're not technically supposed to be hit all that much too. so you really only want that initial nope to damage.

if you get hit 2-3 on heresy/damnation, you are dead anyway

it's better overall to just go wounds/health

[orchid nest]

yeah I agree

[elfin crystal]

wounds so you don't get absolutely deleted 1 hit after your first down and don't get annoyed by the flashbang screen. health for somewhat similar reason

[steel egret]

Could even run 3 health if your interest in toughness is merely % based

as in you can deal with ranged chipping damage to toughness

[crimson ravine]

t1 should i even buy it

[steel egret]

and keep it at 100% just as with any excess toughness you would normally have.

[frigid marten]

Yes always. blessing crafting is supposed to be based on merging blessing for upgrade

[steel egret]

Would be great if that was way to reach 25% on curio or 20% toughness.

[north cradle]

Based on my own experience: Essence Harvest with Purgatus or gun, Warp Absorption with most other staves, and the quelling one with Surge

[orchid nest]

that could be how it will work, yeah. if they stick to their proposed system it would be 3 sacrificed 21%/17% ones in that case

[hot zephyr]

16% toughness on curio + 4% toughness on perk = 20% toughness curio

[orchid nest]

I think he was referring to 25%/20% being the datamined max ones for the blessings but we can't reach it currently

[north cradle]

Is that actually a thing? Health and Toughness Curios are 4% short of a theoretical maximum in case you can get a perk for it?

[hot zephyr]

Dunno, but I have a 16% + 4% toughness one

[frigid marten]

17% T is the max for now

Like we can’t have 100% bar weapons

[steel egret]

Cool, but I'm not talking about that.

I'm talking about increasing base value of blessing on curios via blessing merging.

[hot zephyr]

Well, those aren't blessings.

That would be base stats reroll for the base value

[hot zephyr]

Huh, neat.

[steel egret]

I assure you, those are blessings.

We can exchange perks now.

but when they add Blessing swapping

if it by means means that we can upgrade them.

[orchid nest]

it's a safe assumption that we will at the very least be able to change them around to health/toughness/wound/stam ones at the current max but yeah I think it's cool speculation that it might end up being the way to hit the datamined max

[steel egret]

having 80 rating blessing get 4 upgrades in increment of 5 rating would total in 25%

and for toughness blessing that would actually go 21% if that was the case.

[steel egret]

Was the datamined amount 21 or 20?

[orchid nest]

I believe it was 20

[steel egret]

Well thats fucked then.

This is just most logical way to add such if they intended, or that they just straight out drop it in game.

[orchid nest]

It says the range is 10-17% so it could be 4 tiers still and fit in with 2.5 and they just don't show us the decimal right now

[steel egret]

Oh yeah that is actually a case

roundings are big in this game on how shit they are.

Its after all believed that these over 380 modifier weapons are after effect of such, merely visual but still.

But then again considering that this often occurs during last upgrade my guess is that it could be just distribution of points from blessings to wrong one, visually.

Well rating points.

[orchid nest]

yeah

[frank hazel]

I hope so

[hollow portal]

Which staff is the best for dealing with mobs? I have the surge staff rn but it takes like 2-3 shots to take out a group of pox walkers...

[wanton cove]

Purgatus is what I use

[digital mural]

Silver eagle one, dont know the name but its great

[wanton cove]

Can still knock them back with quick attack

(Poxwalkers)

Are groups of walkers common on 5? In 4 I get two at a time sometimes but they are not always in groups. Usually coming a little separate so it’s easy to deal with

[hollow portal]

That the flamey one?

[wanton cove]

Yep!

[hollow portal]

That's the one I'm trying to get. My Psyker is still low level

[wanton cove]

Ahh :(. Well surge is ok. You hope that when you mark and stun the walker a team mate will snipe it before your surge kills it lol

Cause yeah surge…can take a minute

[floral solstice]

Use your melee for hordes if you're running surge staff

[hollow portal]

I'm swapping to flame when I get one

I wish the Psyker had more esoteric powers. Like what if he could swap to an ability where he can turn an enemy against the other cultists.

[wanton cove]

Lol the flame staff is so satisfying. Just seeing a sea of blue flames during heavy hordes xD

[hollow portal]

Yes

[hot zephyr]

Wait til you drop a 6 warp charge ascendant blaze on a quad-horde in a choke.

You'll proc the voice lines where the other group members are astonished by your power

[wanton cove]

I haven’t tried it yet because I’m so addicted to kinetic barrage for fast BB spam. But since I’m running flame staff so often I really should give it a go

[floral solstice]

it is rather hard (at least for me) to switch out of barrage once you get used to it

[wanton cove]

Sometimes you just get those ROUGH pubs where for some unknown reason vets focus on hordes not long range & you feel so helpless with flame staff to deal with them. So sometimes the quick BB feel nice

[orchid nest]

I like KB with non purg but for purg AB is such a big part of how you help with groups of shooters that I'd feel like a detriment on that front by not having it. That's what you bring over a flamer zealot, more ranged options

[wanton cove]

Good point indeed. I’m not sure on the range of AB…

[orchid nest]

it goes out 30m, pretty damn far

[wanton cove]

But hey. Today is Friday and I have a long weekend to experiment 😝

[floral solstice]

probably one of the reasons why i havent played purg setup in a long time is because i find it hard to switch out barrage lol

[wanton cove]

Yeah it gets so comfortable just eliminating gunners back to back 🤣

[idle bay]

[Pained/Maniacal Laughter] 7 Grimoire missions and 0 Scripture missions when i need 25 scriptures 🙂

[floral solstice]

also hard to trust random ogrnys/zealots to deal with bulwarks and stuff so i mostly run surge

especially since most randoms run knife

[idle bay]

They are helping you to get Revive penance

[orchid nest]

yeah your go to with purg for them will be BB to open them up for the team unless they have displayed they are capable on their own easily with their setups in which case you can just continue burning through them

[wanton cove]

It’s so wishy washy!

[floral solstice]

been seeing more stubber ogryns lately too, compared to gauntler/rumbler

wait does stubber open up bulwarks

[wanton cove]

My first team last night was the pits. It was painful. People hitting barrels all over on 4 and leaving people downed. Ignoring gunners

[orchid nest]

yeah me too actually. not sure if it opens them

[wanton cove]

Then next group 3 vets that were like walking artillery and I didn’t have to do hardly anything lol

[floral solstice]

i got a pretty good gauntlet like 2 days after i got ogryn to 30 so i never looked at other ranged weapons lol, 2 shotting damnation reapers is where it's at

[wanton cove]

We actually prefer pain here so we enjoy it taking 47 brain bursts to kill a reaper

[hollow portal]

"-No, Beloved, we can't do that... Fanatic is here..."

[wanton cove]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[sand mauve]

is getting warp battery ever worth it?

[floral solstice]

you know what, I'll give purgatus a go again, been spamming surge for weeks on t5

and then I'll prolly get disappointed and switch back to surge anyway because the knife zealots can't control 3 melee elites

[orchid nest]

you should still take the role of controlling non ogryn elites with purg, just spam your left click on them

it's a nice change of pace switching between them back and forth for sure

[floral solstice]

oh god just realized im also switching out of flayer and wrath cd

[orchid nest]

a lot of purg use does feel pretty similar to some stuff you'd do with surge too though like that. like interrupting those packs of maulers and ragers and interrupting various specials as well. still has a decent amount of CC

[floral solstice]

gonna have to peak out of cover more often though compared to surge, one of the things i really like about it

[orchid nest]

in the case of like a flamer backed by a horde it's actually more reliable than surge for certain things

[sand mauve]

6 warp charges on heresy difficulty seems.. useless? at least for brain burst. it still takes two to kill most armored elites

[floral solstice]

you use the charges with ascendant blaze to take out pesky shooters or a group in front of you liked a mixed horde

[orchid nest]

yeah for sure. some maps are worse than others. purg is pretty good for taking out groups of shooters with the standard stream, more reliable than trying to keep them forced into melee. people make it hard for you though a lot of the time by aggroing them from far away for no reason.

[floral solstice]

yeah it does suck to surge dregs, takes a while to kill them, at least it's somewhat more consistent with purge and charge stacks in terms of dealing with groups

[orchid nest]

yeah like. surge is better at outright killing scabs but purg is pretty well balanced against ranged in general from medium range. it does more damage against dregs like you said but scabs are the one thing suppression actually works right on and purg does a ton of suppression

[floral solstice]

btw can surge make poxbursters blow up on their own like a well-timed surge or does the lmb just stagger them

[orchid nest]

you can use the left click like you would use a melee except with more range basically. so left click after they arm

[sly steppe]

What role does "damage" play on a purgatus staff? is it any worth?

[floral solstice]

and then they explode on their own when they get up, like with surge?

[orchid nest]

right when they start leaping

yeah if they arm first they will explode

[orchid nest]

it's ok but generally considered a dump stat for it. main stream non burn damage

[floral solstice]

nice, i love making bursters blow on their own then looking the other way like im im a michael bay film

[sly steppe]

thanks because i found a purgatus that sucks at dmg but is good otherwise

[floral solstice]

gonna test it when i start running purge setup

inb4 i get queued with 2 flamer zealots and another purg psyk

[orchid nest]

yeah like I don't think it will stagger them before they arm and start their jump but it's extremely consistent to use the left click to deal with them once you know the timing. it gives you more distance than you get melee pushing them

or helping a team mate they are about to be mid jump on who it was apparent isn't in a position to deal with it

[floral solstice]

i dont think ive ever seen a random purg psyker do that, hence why i asked if it was possible

to be fair, never met a surge psyk that does that too anyway

[orchid nest]

I don't see many do it for some reason it's my go to though unless I absolutely must be blocking during that period in which case i'll try the melee push

[floral solstice]

gonna need a bit of adjustment to fix my old surge playstyle habits

anyway almost 1pm here, thanks for the advice

1am*

have fun colleagues

[orchid nest]

np, have fun with it when you can play

[slender wharf]

Just made my first pysker after leveling a vet and ogryn

What do I need to know

[slow karma]

The dodge is gonna spoil you

Also if you find yourself in peril overheat, you can use your activatable to save yourself

[austere estuary]

warp battery is amazing

also if you REALLY want brain burst to kill things faster like reapers

take the 3rd skill on uh... 2nd? 3rd tier? that makes brain burst make non warp attacks do more damage for 5s

because it also affects brain burst

alternatively, pair warp battery with something like all or nothing t4 (5% power at full stamina) from a melee weapon, or executor (stacking power % from chained weakspot hits)

slaughterer will also work but is much more restrictive in its application due to time, but is also a bigger boost

but even if you don't change a breakpoint, leaving something with a hair of life vs a bigger chunk is still a gain since it's not a solo game (though even if it was, you still benefit if it takes 1 BB + a love tap from any weapon instead of more)

[lament topaz]

By the Five, what the fuck are you saying?

[violet thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-funny-wtf-wth-jesse-gif-17336046

[austere estuary]

Psyker things relating to BB

make head pop big strong

[lament topaz]

I’ll just be over here talking to the funny orb at the end of my staff.

His name is Harold and doesn’t like the Emperor.

[austere estuary]

Guessing not using the beloved voice then

[lament topaz]

Richtofen needs no Emperor.

[hollow bronze]

i am one with the warp and done with this class

[austere estuary]

so long 👋

[lament topaz]

Have fun.

[worthy wedge]

don't bust your own brain

[lament topaz]

Hitreg in this game makes me want to.

[brittle crest]

this is awful right? despite the base being 352, the mod spread looks pretty horrendous?

[valid lake]

it alright

[brittle crest]

(brand new 30 so my gear is generally crap lol)

[sand mauve]

im jealous, i can't get the pants

[brittle crest]

i'm having a hell of a time trying to BB a dog in midair

[hollow bronze]

dont hate the class it just needs a re-do, whole kit just feels confused and unfocused, feels like the only build that uses the kit given properly is the firestaff / burnult set up

[sand mauve]

i had no idea cerebral lacerations buffed brain burst. didn't know bb wasn't a warp attack!

[valid lake]

and even then the burn build doesn't feel that cohesive (compared to vet or zealot )

[austere estuary]

yeah it surprised me too

[austere estuary]

yeah, warp res is the least important stat by a fair margin so unfortunately not great

[oblique hemlock]

I'll give you 3 shekels to do them for me

[valid lake]

whats the go to perk/blessings to get on surge ?

[sand mauve]

oh wait those pants can be bought at the shop!

[oblique hemlock]

Fr tho, how'd you do Pick N Mix?

[brittle crest]

which staff is better for uh.. noob psykers? aka more forgiving of bad placement or something.. working my way up the difficulties and trying to get used to them

[austere estuary]

I got it randomly in the finale on comms plex 2f

just started (brain) blastin

targeting gunners, trappers etc

anything that would die in 1 hit

using barrage

[oblique hemlock]

Based

[lament topaz]

I personally like the ball staff because I haven’t gotten the flame staff yet.

[austere estuary]

voidstrike super versatile

has some good blessings/blessing combos possible too

alas, I'm without a great void atm

got a decent one

[lament topaz]

I use it for the same reason I play Zenyatta in OW2.

“I’m charging my balls!”

“Here, have my balls.”

[maiden wolf]

Void is great forlong range fire support, Purge has unmatched crowd control

[austere estuary]

purg best overall cc, though surge has higher elite cc definitely

[maiden wolf]

Try to find a surge staff with quell on weakspot hit. You can keep firing continuously so long as you hit weakspots.

[maiden wolf]

agreed

[austere estuary]

I like that every staff has some kind of mix of things it's good at

[valid lake]

you can hit weak spots with surge ?

[slow karma]

The hell is the trauma staff good at?

[valid lake]

raising perils

[austere estuary]

trauma is a very strong mix of CC, damage and control

[slow karma]

Sure feels like absolutely none of those

[brittle crest]

hmm

[austere estuary]

it knocks anything aside from a mutie on its ass or breaks it in almost instant cast if needs be while also vaporising hordes

[brittle crest]

seems that i should just build around whatever staff i get lucky enough to get

[valid lake]

pretty much

[austere estuary]

needs more specific positioning and benefits greatly from understanding how peril works at high amounts

[hollow bronze]

@oblique hemlock its just random chance if get the right specials to spawn you need gunners/toxflamer/trapper/bombers to do it, take Kinetic Barrage and when you see a group pop 1 pop 2 ult pop pop pop vent if needed

[oblique hemlock]

Thank you : )

[austere estuary]

abuse the momentum of a quell to fit what could be a 47% peril generating cast in 18-19

[brittle crest]

quick question for you all, why does it look like my base will go down if i upgrade this staff?

[austere estuary]

visual bug

it won't go down

you're safe

[brittle crest]

o ok

good to know

[austere estuary]

it also won't go up, which it sometimes shows

[brittle crest]

i was like "wtf i'm going to make this weapon crappier if i upgrade"

[brittle crest]

hence why you always want a decent base right

[hollow bronze]

@oblique hemlockremember you only need to be at 97% to be safe to pop

[austere estuary]

correct

[sleek yacht]

good weapon roles on the wrong class

[slow karma]

Those numbers never made much sense to me.

[brittle crest]

it feels like that surge is decent enough @austere estuary ? decent blessing and 345 base with warp res as dump?

[slow karma]

I've heard it can go up to 380 but I've not seen one higher than maybe 350 literally ever on anything

[austere estuary]

that surge looks great to me

380 is the current max

you can technically see up to 385, through some rounding errors

[slow karma]

Yeah and I've never seen anything within 20 points of that

that's some pretty garbage RNG for a pool potential

[austere estuary]

once you're at 30, most common is between 330-360

which is far and away good enough

[slow karma]

Fair enough

[austere estuary]

my best purg is like... 310? 320? because warp res was low on it and dump stat

[slow karma]

I've got a pretty good one

[brittle crest]

ayy ntb, the 10% ranged dmg to specialists seems good

[slow karma]

I've been trying to collect good rolled bases

[austere estuary]

I collect good bases & blessings that I want to create votives for

though it's draining on dockets

[sleek yacht]

reroll carapace its kinda booty

[brittle crest]

guess i'm a surg staff main now

[austere estuary]

I am always running out

[sleek yacht]

same

[brittle crest]

is that better use of resources than doing the final consecrate for extra blessing?

sry for all the noob questions, i have no idea wtf i'm doing

[sleek yacht]

hmm

I'd say

well my little goblin brain would want to get a second blessing first

[austere estuary]

same here

[maiden wolf]

Surge already has a realy rough time with warp generation, I'd be careful with that one.

[brittle crest]

alright alright

[austere estuary]

warp res has minimal effect

[maiden wolf]

Ah, nvm then

[austere estuary]

it only affects the actual firing part of the secondary and primary

[brittle crest]

[austere estuary]

so that big chunk you get when charging?

[ornate hamlet]

Which is better

[austere estuary]

doesn't change at all

so the final difference is only a couple of % at most

and if you cast near max, then that couple of % is chopped off anyway

[brittle crest]

run n gun seems awful

[austere estuary]

so

run n gun is a bit better than its description indicates

[slow karma]

This is my best purge staff

[austere estuary]

it does actually allow you to sprint forward while charging your secondary

[valid lake]

both arent great you want high burn /cloud on purge damg is the dump stat

[austere estuary]

which isn't hip fire

but hey

[brittle crest]

oh

[ornate hamlet]

WHICH IS BETTER

[austere estuary]

the sprint, however

is not as fast as full belt

[brittle crest]

wait that seems decently good

[austere estuary]

but a lot faster than not

[slow karma]

I also have this monster though

[austere estuary]

the problem is you can't sprint sideways

[brittle crest]

rip

[austere estuary]

so it's limited in use to some degree

[slow karma]

I think those are my two best ranged weapons

[austere estuary]

still kinda nice when keeping up with team and not using all or nothing

but yeah, not the strongest bless

[brittle crest]

ah well

[austere estuary]

a 'nice to have'

[sleek yacht]

staff blessings arent really huge compared to some other weapons though, so its not a big deal breaker

[brittle crest]

now just to get rid of the carapace dmg?

[sleek yacht]

ya ya

[austere estuary]

still levelling I see, but I'd go with the cloud radius for the range at that point

[ornate hamlet]

ty

[austere estuary]

you'll replace it before too long but the cloud radius directly determines the max firing range

[brittle crest]

what should i be looking for over carapace?

[sleek yacht]

I have crit chance

[ornate hamlet]

It'll help for now which is better than nothing

[austere estuary]

some are: warp nexus is a LOT of crit and as such is particularly huge for purgatus; surge on void is powerful; transfer peril on void is game changing; terrifying barrage is a good safety net; warp flurry is worthless on most, but v good on voidstrike

in general voidstrike eats well with blessings

[brittle crest]

oh wow

refine gets CHEAPER as you go

lol?

[austere estuary]

eys

[sleek yacht]

yes

[slow karma]

Did know that?

[austere estuary]

they changed decision on it late on

[sleek yacht]

it eventually costs nothing

[brittle crest]

wtf that seems hilarious

[austere estuary]

^

[brittle crest]

i'll take that W

[austere estuary]

it was a very late change of heart

[slow karma]

Yeah it was gonna be the other way round but they realized how cancer that would be with their other shitty systems

[austere estuary]

big W but also left us with a ui not suited for it

hoping they'll address that some point later down the line

[slow karma]

I mean it's whatever, they'll get around to it

[austere estuary]

yeah it's low prio

it still works

[slow karma]

mhm

Oh that sounds fun. I didn't know that was a blessing you could get

[brittle crest]

that's muh first "decent" staff at lv30 then

surg main here we go, i need to learn how to play it better tho

[austere estuary]

that's a fantastic first decent staff

stat spread is A+

[brittle crest]

i panic cause i lvl'd a ton with void

[austere estuary]

v lucky imo

[brittle crest]

and void while leveling did everything great at t2/some t3

[austere estuary]

yeah void is a champ

never feels like you can't do something

[brittle crest]

the headshotting a horde with the charge up was

[slow karma]

Very true

[brittle crest]

yea, i always ended up back on void cause at least in t2/t3 the specialized staves like purg/surg just felt limiting

but i imagine surg will feel better if a ton of specialists are on the screen

[austere estuary]

In particular trauma sucks while levelling, and really until you get good rolls

[brittle crest]

oo interesting

[austere estuary]

trauma needs high charge rate, damage, quelling, blast range

and given how some of those bars scale, it is dramatically different towards the top end of the bars

[brittle crest]

ooo

i'll have to keep my eye out for one

what is Brittleness?

[austere estuary]

like trauma goes from slowest staff charge to fastest - 2.5 to 1.0s range (1.3 atm with 80 cap)

[brittle crest]

holy crap

[austere estuary]

brittleness is like shared armor rending

[brittle crest]

oh interesting

[austere estuary]

for comparison on charge rates, void goes from 1.9 to 1.6 iirc

0-100

[brittle crest]

that's a huge diff on trauma

honestly i had fun when i tried it but the charge up time made it pretty useless while leveling

will have to keep an eye out for one for sure

[austere estuary]

incidentally, this means one stack of warp flurry t4 will take a void staff that has like 40-50% charge speed bar and make it faster than if it had 100% bar, or thereabouts

[blazing oak]

That and when a crowd of scab shooters occurs spread behind cover and the lightning destroys them

[austere estuary]

surge prios elites etc right?

I thiiiink

[blazing oak]

Not sure honestly

[austere estuary]

surge is my least played by miles

not my jam

[blazing oak]

I think kinetic flayer might

[sleek yacht]

its v good utility but makes me feel like im not doing much

[blazing oak]

I am a support player usually so I like it

[austere estuary]

BB prios elites and such over horde schmucks

[brittle crest]

looking forward to it 😄 i'm pretty noob so i'm only now venturing into t3.. i never wanna be the person that like.. causes a run failure so i sorta kept it easy while lvling

[austere estuary]

provided its cylinder of fire isn't totally blocked

[blazing oak]

To play surge is to enjoy the feeling of enabling your team to win instead of being the person who wins. Like a healer

Or deleting scabs

[austere estuary]

yeah surge is great when team can take advantage

[brittle crest]

rdruid wow arena main checking in

[austere estuary]

also seeing muties stop

very satisfying

big ol middle finger to em

[brittle crest]

ahaha

i imagine in t3/t4 i can trust the team to have the damage to do something about it

[austere estuary]

ahhh, teams are always variable

[sleek yacht]

^

[austere estuary]

sometimes you get carried, sometimes you carry

part of the fun for me but some hate it

if you hate it I recommend finding likeminded people to regularly play with

[blazing oak]

So say surge gets it’s own unique primary fire, what is your idea? Mine is a bolt that doesn’t stun but bounces between people for more damage, or single target electrocution that ramps up, but my second idea isn’t good

[sleek yacht]

I hate it too, but something about finishing a mission by a thread feels pretty good

[austere estuary]

light chain lightning would always be fun

[sleek yacht]

(granted theres times you wipe instantly a lot)

[brittle crest]

is psyker good at making/breaking a run in general? it feels like the control of surg can turn a run for the better

[austere estuary]

or actually

focused lightning shot

hitscan

[blazing oak]

Oh yeah I have real bad guilt problems if I feel like I’m not contributing or harming team

[austere estuary]

that'd be a nice thing

no hitscan staff

so a lightning laser would be nice

pinpoint

[blazing oak]

Helps with getting dogs off teammate

[shadow onyx]

the lack of 12 % finess is impactful ?

[blazing oak]

Like symmetra beam from overwatch?

[austere estuary]

psyker can probably fill in gaps better than any other class

[blazing oak]

Hey without mind in motion is your dodge distance reduced while quelling

[austere estuary]

since you always have a long range elite slapping tool, you always have an aoe knockdown, and you can provide good control and/or horde clear etc

though you can build to make certain things very good at the expense of others

quickplay that way is obviously a diceroll

[blazing oak]

Brain bursting the bomber my team refuses to kill is how it goes

[brittle crest]

what last row talent do y'all take with surg? 3?

[austere estuary]

BB so good for targets like bombers or trappers who love running off behind corners

[brittle crest]

the soulfire probably doesn't do enough dmg to warrant taking 2 right

[blazing oak]

Psyker would be almost perfect for me if they made the penances not punish you for having competent teammates / not having friends

[austere estuary]

surge struggles at big horde, so 2 is also a fine option

[brittle crest]

oo ok

[austere estuary]

2 with 4-6 stacks will melt hordes on damnation even

[brittle crest]

dang TIL

[blazing oak]

I take the fire one because I feel like it actually knocks them back compared to the others. I’m not usually brainbursting so I don’t get the best use out of 1 and 3

[shadow onyx]

so you need 2 bb in damnation for poxburster

[austere estuary]

but likewise, having turbo BB available is very useful

[shadow onyx]

i dont understand it

[austere estuary]

depends on your stacks etc but yes, in damnation I recommend staff for pox

[blazing oak]

Surging pox burster is actually one of the best things about surge

[brittle crest]

[austere estuary]

void and surge are insanely good for poxburster

[blazing oak]

With pox bursters dangerous to melee shove you get to laugh as you save your teammates

[austere estuary]

as they allow you to stop it without popping it unless you want to

which is huge if it's on top of a teammate

[brittle crest]

alright i'm getting p-excited to be a surg support main

[blazing oak]

Although I have found it inconsistent when the pox burster jumps. Sometimes it knocks them back, sometimes it doesn’t

[austere estuary]

melee shove more reliable than F though 😦

at least since last patch for me

F used to feel reliable but I wonder if I was just lucky

[sleek yacht]

yeah F is like a 50/50

[austere estuary]

actually

I just thought

so our F knockback scales with warp charges

[sleek yacht]

I feel like an idiot when it does nothing to the burster 2 feet away from my face

[austere estuary]

it might be that

[blazing oak]

The only part of surge I don’t like is when I’m solo fighting a mutant sucks because mutants require the entire surge animation to be stunned so the timing is tight. 2nd worst is when I’m holding back 5 elites on t4/5 and pinging them and my pug team is in the corner looting plasteel pls help team

[austere estuary]

if only we had poxburster in psykarium

combination of playing higher difficulty and variable knockback of F from warp charges might be it

[blazing oak]

Wouldn’t do much without a way to make them attack

To do the jump test

[austere estuary]

which is def preferable to just luck

yeah I'd like to be able to have a fighting game esque queued attack setting

[blazing oak]

Sometimes dogs just say no when electrocuted and keep going

[austere estuary]

where there's a countdown and then the enemy does its attack

so you can test stuff

[sleek yacht]

dogs turn on a dime theyre always jank lmao

[blazing oak]

Actually speaking of that, surge does not bounce to enemies behind you, and if you turn while surging the lightning animation sometimes goes to enemies you turn to but doesn’t damage or stun them

[austere estuary]

man when trauma hits a dog right before someone else kills it sometimes the dog dies with a launch into space funeral

returning to their people

[blazing oak]

Also surge lightning doesn’t generate light other than the enemies you are hitting, which sucks because it could be so cool to light up the entire room through lightning during lights out mode

[long wharf]

dodging a mutant isn't hard if you remember to give yourself enough distance and dodge left (mutant's right)

[blazing oak]

https://tenor.com/view/lightning-struck-by-gif-14902359

Lightning makes light Fatshark!

[long wharf]

with surge, I'll do a full surge charge to ensure the stun, and then I'll do smaller stuns with animation canceling to get my axe swings in

[blazing oak]

Why full charge to ensure it

[long wharf]

because of lag

hard to tell sometimes if you just didn't charge quite enough or the server didn't think you had gotten the mutant fast enough

[blazing oak]

Mutants also only get stopped at the tail end of the animation so the timing can just be not in your favor

Although yeah sometimes lag just doesn’t let you stun enemies in front of you

[lament topaz]

I used to run gun Psyker and then I had to stop because of hitreg. And then I had to stop playing the game because of hitreg.

[blazing oak]

Okay speaking of hitreg is it me or do melee weapons have a reach longer than the weapons length and if you hit that sweet spot there is no hit sound but the enemy takes damage

[lament topaz]

They don’t take damage from that.

[blazing oak]

They do

[lament topaz]

If you don’t get the marker or the sound they don’t take damage.

[undone quiver]

I might be late to this discussion, but I think if you weapon shift you cut short the animation without ending the stun, so you can get in some hits

[blazing oak]

I’ve had the red hit marker but no sound and the enemy dies

[lament topaz]

Hm.

[austere estuary]

they did have disco mode briefly

[blazing oak]

That only happens when they are at the absolute range of my melee

[austere estuary]

it was a bit painful though

thankfully they reverted that

[lament topaz]

I’ve had sound no hitmarker and no damage dealt, so I dunno.

[silk flax]

don't forget trauma staff. Trauma staff can instant pop a burster

[austere estuary]

yeah I love trauma vs burster

esp if the burster is up on platform above

without LoS

and you can still blast it

or around a corner etc

[lament topaz]

I watched the blood pop out of the poxwalker I point blanked with a revolver. It wasn’t a miss.

[long wharf]

that blood is client-side

[austere estuary]

that sounds like the servers lagging mortarion

[blazing oak]

Hey did you know that the pox burster proximity sound doesn’t have a limit to how fast it beeps

[long wharf]

server can still register the shot as a miss

[lament topaz]

I am fully aware that it’s because of the server fucking up.

[blazing oak]

I was in the torrent level with the rain and catwalks and there was a burster on the level right above me and the beeping sound was going full throttle

[austere estuary]

hahaha

now we have no EAC though

I do want a mod that replaces burster sounds with sonic drowning music

there is no greater anxiety sound than that

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Yw5jkAHgME

[blazing oak]

I thought that beat that goes faster and faster was from jaws

Also:

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/zst7lk/it_was_not_behind_me/

[lament topaz]

Skill issue.

[maiden wolf]

It feels like the FS shove works from really far away too.

[austere estuary]

try the laspistol shove 😉

speaking of funky shoves

[brittle crest]

damn surg staff is kinda nuts y'all were right

[sonic aspen]

so uh it was nice knowing you boys

[brittle crest]

damn

cloud radius is pretty important on purg staffs, yea?

[sonic aspen]

it deals with range and size iirc

[austere estuary]

yes, it dictates your range

[austere estuary]

hot damn

very nice

easily best melk item I've ever seen

and to think you have 5% crit on it already, freeing up the other for whatever you like

[sonic aspen]

I probably will never get anything good ever again

All the luck and good grace used up in one go

[austere estuary]

if you're like me you'll get a lot of good duelling swords you don't use

[maiden wolf]

I've saved up 6600 melk bux, still nothing worth buying yet.

[keen belfry]

what you dont want a 325 lvl las gun?

[brittle crest]

i'm scared to look at melk cause i have low melk bux

[keen belfry]

game kinda trash in its current state

[brittle crest]

is this talent build good for surg psyker? 321132 currently.. i've heard some folks say take 20-1 even if you don't have a deflector sword just to have that clutch block when ressing

[maiden wolf]

More like Melk duds amirite?

[keen belfry]

RNG is horrible right now

[hot zephyr]

I've had two really nice drops from Melk so far actually, a fantastic curio and a really nice accatran VId

Now that said, that's after like.... checking him daily for 15 days....

[keen belfry]

State of the game

Thanks Loving it

[hot zephyr]

I think the game might be trying to get you to try something.... I'm not sure what....

[keen belfry]

That is not even the guns...

[stray pond]

What you don't want 3 subpar Surge staffs with Run 'n' Gun instead?

[keen belfry]

How about 1 Ok one so i can play the game, the way i would like to

[stray pond]

No can do gamer

[austere estuary]

my current melee oranges

claws for days

[stray pond]

My melee golds, the only gift was the combat axe

I usually only get purple gifts

Which get bartered immediately

[austere estuary]

ranged golds for me not too bad all things considered

[hot zephyr]

Why would you vendor everything purple and lower? I hardly have any oranges, they aren't worth spinning right now with blessing crafting not available

[stray pond]

Because they're usually like 320 base

And guns mostly

[austere estuary]

I have hundreds of things sitting waiting for their blessings to be extracted

my best purg is 325, good old dump stat lifting heavily

[brittle crest]

dang

[stray pond]

I just haven't gotten many gifts on my Psyker, my Zealot on the other hand

[brittle crest]

it feels so ahrd to play alts with the melk contract farming each week

they take so damn long

[austere estuary]

the melk stuff is awful for alts, hope they overhaul it

[stray pond]

The longest contract I'm okay with is 25 scriptures, though it's still annoying

[brittle crest]

also my peanut brain forgets about ammo when i'm not on psyker LOL

[hot zephyr]

Dunno what to say, only weapon I want but haven't found at least one 350+ with good rolls is a Devil's Claw.

[austere estuary]

whenever I have a gun I end up accidentally goblining all the ammo cause on psyker I open crates and spam E to pick anything that's not medpak etc up

[stray pond]

Don't worry when you finally find one the game will ruin it for you Taeritimus

[austere estuary]

this is pretty great still, will be nice with rebless

[stray pond]

I got this as a white and not only did I get Hammerblow it also bugged out the perk. I never rerolled it and yet it locked the second perk.

There are worse things than block efficiency I suppose but it's not great

[austere estuary]

yeah

on non force weapon

not amazing

[hot zephyr]

Meanwhile.... over here I spent 30 minutes last night rerolling to GET +20% block eff on one of my Chainswords

[austere estuary]

what for?

[stray pond]

It's not great on a claw

That said I don't even use that nice 379 base claw, I use this other one I crafted ages ago

[austere estuary]

wow

this is sick sick

don't forget you can get multiple stacks of shred when you hit multiple targets

[stray pond]

I've started using a Crucian Roulette gun as a stat stick as well so I'm uh, doing a lot of crits

[austere estuary]

yeah crits are fun

laspistol disproportionately does better with crits

[stray pond]

I ran a melee only Heresy just to fuck around, not counting BB, and it actually worked really really well

Blazing Spirit becomes worth something with Crucian Roulette

[austere estuary]

I really want blazing t4 on sword for some fun

8 stacks a cirt

[stray pond]

Blazing T4 would be cool

[austere estuary]

crit*

[stray pond]

The gun I picked up from Melk isn't even that bad either

Like in a pinch this thing is actually pretty decent

[austere estuary]

yeah that's p nice

[stray pond]

But usually what I do with it is fire one shot, reload partially, and put it away.

[austere estuary]

my crucian stick isn't so hot

though I do like ghost

[stray pond]

Ghost is pretty nice tbh

[keen belfry]

i will share some guns 1 sec

[stray pond]

If you whack a weak spot in melee then mmm

[austere estuary]

this is my most s y n e r g y gun

though I wish it was a mk12 with that

[keen belfry]

i have some really nice guns on my pskyer...

[austere estuary]

btw pinning fire seems v strong
makes even this do damage

[austere estuary]

eyyy

[stray pond]

Ooo if you had Cavalcade instead of Sustained Fire on that autopistol

That'd be a monstrous autopistol

[austere estuary]

yeah I'm keeping an eye out for good ones

they're fun to use

[keen belfry]

ok not gonna lie this thing does shred

[austere estuary]

autopistol really satisfying to zip around with blapping stuff

[austere estuary]

it also does well from crit

300% for infested, over 200 for unarmored, over 300 for flak

[hot zephyr]

That's a really nice one. I haven't found a decent MkIV I like yet, only a couple decent MG12s

[austere estuary]

shred on melee wep for that really helps

[keen belfry]

and then this pistol when i want to pretend i am Mcree

[austere estuary]

revolver maaan

[stray pond]

I'd take a Crucian/Gloryhunter revolver

For obvious BB related reasons

[austere estuary]

revolver makes me want to level my vet for the reload speed

that said

revolver also the weapon that can make best use of its own crucian

just reloading one bullet

anyone tested gloryhunter btw, if it works when wep is not out?

[keen belfry]

working on upgrading this, would like to use it with a surge staff..

[austere estuary]

my revolvers are like

need to up the blue one and see what it gets

[stray pond]

Oh man this is a great time to show a dumb Gift I've gotten

[austere estuary]

oh btw

[stray pond]

This staff causes me pain

[austere estuary]

you know guns that say "xyz on close range kill"

that "close range" is pretty damn generous

[keen belfry]

lol that void strike staff is hilarious

[stray pond]

The Emperor felt like having a laugh at me when I got that thing

[austere estuary]

consider my trauma, best one I have by far, but the blessings

even with basically no blessings though

[stray pond]

Then there's my Purg that I need to finish crafting

[austere estuary]

base stats matter so much to trauma that I stick with it

[austere estuary]

this is really nice

hope you get a good second blessing

like focused channel

[stray pond]

Wish it was a T3 nexus

[austere estuary]

yeah

[olive ember]

Focused channeling is trash

[austere estuary]

Okay then

[stray pond]

It's not high on my list of upgrading to gold though

[olive ember]

You want terrifying barrage

[hot zephyr]

That with Terrifying Barrage is my ideal purge

[austere estuary]

I have terrifying and nexus

but I want focused instead of terrifying

[keen belfry]

my purg

its alright...

[hot zephyr]

I find terrifying is really helpful is tight corners, like hallways and stuff

[austere estuary]

for me on purg I generally feel like it made a minimal difference going from not to having it

[stray pond]

Why do I keep getting disconnected from the fuckin' server Fatshark??

[austere estuary]

but I hate being interrupted

[keen belfry]

you might like my void then dave..

[hot zephyr]

I just puff puff or use F when they stack up too close on my purg, or switch to my chainsword I pair with it and go to cleave town

[austere estuary]

I get why they made purg and surge not do what void does on interrupt and just fire since that'd lock you into an animation, but with trauma they really should just make it like void

[austere estuary]

wow

those stats and xfer peril too

very nice

[keen belfry]

ya prob my best wep

[austere estuary]

void with peril transfer is like the king of all rounders

[hot zephyr]

That's a pretty disgusting void

[keen belfry]

i like the focus, if i get in trouble i start aiming at my feet

[hot zephyr]

80 blast radius and 78 damage too... jsut wow

[stray pond]

I need to get around to upgrading my curios to gold

They're all purple atm

[hot zephyr]

Why bother for the moment?

[keen belfry]

going to have to fix mine i got some horrible rollls upgrading

15% curio chance locked...

[hot zephyr]

I run with blues and purps and have no issues even in damn other than teammates or being dumb myself

[austere estuary]

these are prob my two best voids and they're not amazing

[hot zephyr]

I'm just gunna sit on blues and purps until crafting system is full implemented

Why waste all my plasteel

[keen belfry]

would like to try this someday

[pale crescent]

Having trouble coping with how long it takes to roll up a good staff

[hot zephyr]

I tried trauma when I was leveling up my psyker... I just resorting to spamming LMB pew pew

The right click is just awful

[keen belfry]

mabye not with that staff just tested it one fully charged secondary action is 64% peril lol

[lethal plover]

when is patch

[stray pond]

Just queued up for a game and another Psyker decided to BB a Daemonhost with malicious intent

[austere estuary]

no idea yet

[stray pond]

And the fucking host went after ME

[keen belfry]

lol

idk if thats worse than watching ur teamate throw a grimoire down the elevator on assasination

[austere estuary]

we had the most comedy luck the other day on a t3 hi intensity

demonhost pretty close to in the way but not quite

but it got just about aggrod by one person - then suddenly, horde and plague ogryn

and right after a short drop

ogryn yeeted someone, meanwhile demonhost blasting the guy who aggrod it and elites running in to pile on in this tiny area

[hot zephyr]

I had an absolutely hilarious run last night actually, double veterans + me (running purge/CS) and a shield ogryn. It was absolute comedy. It was only some chill malice runs but it felt like playing on Sedition we were crushing so hard

[austere estuary]

when team works out it's the biggest power boost

[keen belfry]

if you have 2 good vets i feel useless sometimes on pskyer

let me know when a horde comes..

[brittle crest]

i also had a double vet ogryn team and it was nutso easy as a surg psyk

i just stunned things that came close and the ogryn bonked em, and the vets took care of ranged, ez

[blazing oak]

Does anyone else also just feel useless when there’s another psyker in the game with the same staff as you (Purgatus and surge, not voidstrike)

[keen belfry]

i feel like surge u could really lock stuff down

[hot zephyr]

Yeah, doubling up on staves doesn't feel great. I always check if I have to chance in a lobby with another psyker

[blazing oak]

Eh I just feel like my ‘role’ is already covered and not fun then

[hot zephyr]

If I go quickplay instead of premade I'll just run a well rounded setup cus you never know what you're getting

[brittle crest]

yea i feel that too sometimes

[brittle crest]

what's your well rounded setup?

[blazing oak]

Same feeling when I play zealot and flamers

[hot zephyr]

Funny enough, I'll run Force Sword + Mk1 Autogun or Chainsword + Purgatus, depending on my mood. Both with the same curio setup of 20 health 15 toughness 1 wound

[brittle crest]

oo interesting

[hot zephyr]

Kinda gives me all the options

[blazing oak]

I don’t have friends so I only play pugs and the experiences are very interesting, like when you stun the bulwark bearing down on the vet and it takes the vet like 5 seconds to register that the bulwark is being stunned and the shield isn’t active

[hot zephyr]

Yeah, I started just going in LFG on here rather than rolling the dice on heresy/damnation quickplay

[blazing oak]

I swear they karking stand there and stare at it

[blazing oak]

Wish I could do lfg but I do not have discord on steam deck so I’d have to talk through my phone and have a headset connected to the steam deck so it doesn’t bleed game sound through

[hot zephyr]

I swear 40% of veterans just stand there slack jawed drooling while I burn a horde down to just the elites and then wake up and realize they might wanna pull the trigger when the 4 ragers are bearing down on us

[sonic aspen]

For purg staff what's better to have Unarmored, Flak, or carapace?

[blazing oak]

@hot zephyr Don’t run Purgatus but dear god emperor it’s like they just shut down as well after I stun the elite in their face.

[undone quiver]

I find that I am much better when there are 2 surges. Like, surge creates space but doesn't do damage, but I find a lot of PUGs don't appreciate this. Otoh, the psyker with the same staff knows exactly what I'm experiencing

For example, if there are a bunch of Ragers coming in, and they're stunning them, I know it's time to run in and kill. Then, when the other fellow has done it a bunch and might be high on warp, I'll swap out and they can jump in

[blazing oak]

More power to you I just don’t feel the same way

[hot zephyr]

Unarmoured you already kill them so hard anyways, I'd probably choose Flak, it's more common on higher difficulty too

[mighty pike]

loading into the game for the first time in a week to buy an autogun that might be slightly better than my current...

[blazing oak]

I find it ironic that darktide is so bad stability wise for everyone yet I’ve had a better technical experience on it than Vermintide 2 with a steam deck

Also feel survivor guilt about avoiding the crashes everyone complains about

[hot zephyr]

I don't really know what folks were complaining about crash wise. I've had about 2 game crashes total, both on Torrent maps when interacting with BB on Snipers

[undone quiver]

I think there's an echo chamber a little, but you might also just be favored by the emperor in this

[mighty pike]

ive had probably half a dozen

[blazing oak]

More specifically, VT2 wouldn’t launch on the deck sometimes and also didn’t uninstall so I had to basically do an actual Tech Priest Ritual that I found on the steam forums for VT2 to uninstall it. Also, the game kicks me from any quick play I join on the deck, so I always have to be the one hosting

I’ve had 3 crashes on deck. 2 were beta bug with Purgatus crashing so I don’t super count that, 3rd one was legit

[hot zephyr]

This is partly it too. It's like how you hear the horror story of someone who crashed every time the game launched for 3 days straight but you don't hear how they were running on a gaming machine that hadn't been updating their graphics drivers in 2 years.

[blazing oak]

I’m glad I’ve had so few crashes because I think trying to find the crash folder to clear it out on steam deck would suck

[blazing oak]

Funnily enough, the one time I mentioned my steam deck crashless experience on Reddit, someone told me that machines that run high FPS are the ones that crash and because the deck is crappy it doesn’t crash

[brittle crest]

lol i tried my first t4 quickplay and it was just one other psyker and bots, hello <_<

[hot zephyr]

If you keep your machine updated, and use stock-configuration hardware, you avoid 99% of this nonsense

[undone quiver]

I think a lot of people were experiencing crashes, for legit good reasons on good computers

But, I also don't know if that's the "full story". Are most people mostly having a stable experience? Depends on what you're expectations and definitions are

I know when I get any sort of bad thing happen, like server eats a command, my emotional reaction "Ugh this again can't they fix this", whether that's a fair description of how often I get errors or not

[blazing oak]

I used to have no server disconnections too until I acquired a stable internet (my dc's were because of holiday family home unstable net) and then dc's started happening that were not wifi related

[sonic aspen]

ok done it refuses to give +25% though

[hot zephyr]

That is a legit beauty

[wanton cove]

I like flak. Unarmored goes splat anyways and carapace is like one enemy

[mighty pike]

almost perfect

[wanton cove]

Damn that’s still nice though

[hot zephyr]

Took me almost 30 minutes to roll up 20% block eff on my chainsword last night, but it was worth it

[blazing oak]

wait what staff skin was that

[hot zephyr]

I had to pray really hard to hadron

[blazing oak]

hey does the reduced speed from quelling affect dodge distance

[brittle crest]

damn t4 gets messy fast, i got insta gibb'd by ranged 😐

[blazing oak]

what is that staff skin

[hot zephyr]

What setup were you running?

[brittle crest]

surg+mk5 axe (no deflector sword)

[blazing oak]

ranged just does that

[sonic aspen]

the aquila one for the latest set

[blazing oak]

what level 1 perk u running jaytron

[mighty pike]

congrats on doing level 3

[hot zephyr]

Feats?

[brittle crest]

quietude

[blazing oak]

oh thought that was an armory skin or something

[brittle crest]

i think 321132

[blazing oak]

?

[mighty pike]

seems to be the same idle/actively quelling from what i can see

[mighty pike]

congrats on doing level 3

[hot zephyr]

Try 321212, the shield instead of peril block will help keep you from taking ranged damage

[north cradle]

He's a man of sheer conviction, force, and willpower

[fresh reef]

finally found a look I like with one of the hoods

[blazing oak]

wish hoods didnt remove my short hair

[sterile vale]

So uh, since Shred (+crit chance on repeated hit) works on both weapons if you have it on one, has anyone tried it with voidstrike?

[hot zephyr]

Funny enough that's almost my exact look too.

[fresh reef]

I'm bald normally so I don't take much issue with it lol

[mighty pike]

So with voidstrike because the charged projectile is larger in order to get a headshot you need to aim a foot above their heads, correcty?

[north cradle]

I can't recolour the Heresy penance gear or else I'd be rocking Inquisitorial red instead of blue-grey

[blazing oak]

mind in motion and i regret nothing

[fresh reef]

incomparable minds have limited fashion options

[north cradle]

Also I'm stil trying to get Going Out With a Bang to complete Psyker fully dammit

That is my final penance before I get the green trim hood and goggle hood

[blazing oak]

punishes you for having competent teammates

[rigid blade]

Do damage buffs effect the burning from Ascended Blaze and the Purge staff?

[sonic aspen]

now it's just making a joke of me

[blazing oak]

i have no friends so still need to do malleus, bang, & picknmix

[hot zephyr]

Pray harder. You aren't doing it right if you aren't shouting at the screen

[north cradle]

I can do Malleus with you but I'm at work (on break)

[blazing oak]

yeah i aint home either

[mighty pike]

lol

[north cradle]

Pick N Mix will come naturally, but you ought to be in a premade so you can tell your teammates to hold their fire while you zap all the gunners

[blazing oak]

i dont have friends lol

[north cradle]

#vox-lfg-nasa

[blazing oak]

fs doesnt let us do private games with 1 person too

ive explained why i havent done lfg but basically steam deck no discord uncomfortable setup would have

[north cradle]

Aha okay

[weak galleon]

anybody heard what's the eta on crafting?

[mighty pike]

december

[north cradle]

[weak galleon]

not the "perks"

[rigid blade]

Sorry to ask again but do damage buffs affect the Soulblaze on Ascended Blaze and Purge staff?

[weak galleon]

so no concrete eta?
allright, ty, that's what I wanted to know.

[north cradle]

Like the Peril one?

[hot zephyr]

We've heard nothing about anything, so yeah nothing.

[north cradle]

I don't think it affects Soulblaze

[brittle crest]

will do ty!

damn we stabilized then got a plague ogy and a horde from behind lmao, the jump from t3 -> t4 is wild

[blazing oak]

no mind in motion best feat for that column [Citation Needed]

[hot zephyr]

Lol, even suggesting MIM is a good feat is heresy

[north cradle]

Imagine not slide-quelling lol

[blazing oak]

i use it no regrets >:)

[hot zephyr]

I think you mean ragrats

[north cradle]

Do you even need it if you're running a staff? You walk at only like 80% normal speed

[blazing oak]

yeah t4 t5 everything can just go fine to you wiped in 10 seconds or less

[north cradle]

Brain Burst I think slows you down the most, and Force Sword is in the middle

[blazing oak]

i use it for force sword mostly

[brittle crest]

yea it was looking completely fine and i suddenly got instagibbed by a horde behind us from a room that was empty like 2 secs before (lolwut)

[hot zephyr]

T4/T5 you gotta actually take the side paths that give you covered approaches instead of just bum-rushing through the open

[brittle crest]

ahh gotcha

[hot zephyr]

If you get a noob group that just pushes through open areas you usually just wipe in the open to gunners

[north cradle]

My Ogryn ass ignores meta to bring a Slab Shield and draw aggro charging in the middle if there are too many gunners

[blazing oak]

heres a tip. On throneside commsplex data espionage mission, after you call the elevator and get on it, any remaining enemies will drop down off a ledge right above the elevator, effectively ambushing you from behind if you arent ready for it

[brittle crest]

ahh gotcha, maybe i'll stick to t3 for now until my friends level up and i get better tbh

[north cradle]

I needed that info

[mighty pike]

Also on thoneside, theres a door near the start somewhere that spawns enough gunners to get Going Oiuyt with a Bang easily

[north cradle]

This sounds perfect for exploding and getting this karking penance done

[wanton cove]

100% 🤣

[north cradle]

I hate this so much lol

[blazing oak]

let me clarify: this ledge is after the elevator ascends and you exit. So just turn around after exiting it

[hot zephyr]

The best way into T4 is to hit up T4 low intensity to get used to the horde sizes and one less wound and less medicae charges. then you can move up to regular T4 and introduce the much higher % of elites

[brittle crest]

ahh gotcha ty

[blazing oak]

i actually even dreamed once of failing a perfect opportunity to get it

[north cradle]

Amazing

[blazing oak]

imagine if FS let you solo private match so you could just farm the opening segment of maps to get a 3 rager spawn at the beginning

[north cradle]

I similarly dreamt of trying to complete Make Every Shot Count on my Psyker with the revolver and also failing

[brittle crest]

i can't even get the BB a dog one

[north cradle]

Got that one on accident