psyker-class

[cyan notch]

who knows we might not even have news this week

[west galleon]

We get a maybe update but its TBD and who even told you that what is an update

[warm flint]

can anyone confirm that kinetic flayer only has a chance to proc on the last hit on a surge staff smite?

or can it proc on any of the mobs hit by it

[long wharf]

we likely won't get news next week, either

they have a lot of work to do, and they need to sort through priorities, and I think they're very aware of how bad they need the next announcement and patch to go right

[cobalt phoenix]

this staff any good?

[deft fiber]

What i've read today on forum were about "devs are thinking".

[west galleon]

Dunno, i think awareness is their achilles heel

Bc if they had that this wouldnt be the VT2 release 2

[long wharf]

of course they're thinking

they're thinking "fuck me, why didn't I take more vacation time"

[jovial mist]

on spyker...

[long wharf]

I've been trying to roll crucian roulette on a gun for two days now

[jovial mist]

just got it as a gift

[random wolf]

Trauma Staff is a bit iffy compared to the rest. Just be sure to not aim it into the middle of the horde

[half iron]

do it anyway

[random wolf]

That ends up tossing the horde behind the poor dude melee-ing.

[deft fiber]

Most likely few months at least to make a decision.

With all respect to Aqshy.

[long wharf]

I really dislike the way trauma throws more enemies around than damages them

[deft fiber]

Well, because trauma gives you trauma.

[long wharf]

at least those are meaningful statements to the community

better than "we're listening and maybe somebody is thinking about possibly something good!"

[wild pilot]

tbh it reads the same to me

[long wharf]

those statements are what the community needed to hear

[wet belfry]

Id presume the pritories are genererally going to be crashes, performance, bug fixes.

[deft fiber]

Well, i don't see anything meaningful in this sadly.

[long wharf]

nah, very different

[wild pilot]

how?

[cyan notch]

this cool and all but they really need to finish crafting

shit aint even in the game for how long after release

[long wharf]

because the above is a sincere and serious list of actions being taken

the latter is a nothing burger that insults the reader

intelligent readers, that is

[wild pilot]

There isnt a list of things though, its quite broadly a "we are listening and we will work on it, keep tuned"

[long wharf]

the former is good PR, the latter is bad PR

trust me, there's a world of difference

[wild pilot]

If you say so

[long wharf]

in the end, what really matters is that they fix this dumpster fire

[cyan notch]

i mean they didnt even say anything specific

[long wharf]

because the golden baby inside that dumpster is worth saving

else none of us would be sticking around, waiting for updates

[cyan notch]

its still just “yea we working on vague things to make game gooder”

[long wharf]

no, she wrote specifically what they're doing

[wild pilot]

Where?

[long wharf]

they're looking at community feedback, prioritizing what they can do within a given time frame we don't know

those are actions

[frigid burrow]

Is there only the mk 2 version of the force sword, no other varieties?

[wild pilot]

So, they are listening and working on it?

[long wharf]

actions you can't see, and we can't judge until they release a patch, but actions just the same

[random wolf]

Yes.

[long wharf]

saying "Guys trust me I heard that some good stuff is coming and it could possibly be great but trust me it's coming" is very different in both tone and message

[frigid burrow]

Actually do you happen to know if theres a list of melee weapon mk versions? I saw steam guide lists for psyker staves and guns but no melee list

[long wharf]

the former isn't making empty promises

[cyan notch]

sure but both arent any consolation at all

[long wharf]

the latter is doing everything but make promises

you're right, but at this point consolations are pointless

[cyan notch]

they need to give specifics though what exactly are they working on? weapon balance? crashes? shop rng? melk rng? material economy?

[wild pilot]

Its the same thing bro, they are saying "we are listening, and we are working on stuff, trust me it will be good"

I dont see your angle really

[long wharf]

the only way the community sticks around is by being reassured that the devs are actually listening to the community and working on fixing things

¯_(ツ)_/¯

I'm not defending the current state of Darktide

[wild pilot]

Thats, community managing 101 my man

[long wharf]

and I'm not defending the devs

[cyan notch]

its still just “ oh yea feedback in general yea we are looking at feedback” WHAT FEEDBACK SPECIFICALLY THO SAY SOMETHING

[long wharf]

they can't, because that would lead to people having expectations that they aren't sure if they can meet

look guys, it's not my fault that the nuance of communication is lost on you

[wild pilot]

If she said what were the concrete actions being made instead of a promise of "we are working on it" yeah I would look at it as something other than just a promise

[long wharf]

if you want to just be raging mad, go for it

[cyan notch]

its not the nuance of communication

its that its not enough

[long wharf]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

it's not enough for you

[sour bison]

GUYS WE LISTEN

[wild pilot]

Im not mad, jm just saying its exactly a cookie cutter response any manager out there will give

[long wharf]

it's enough for me to stick around and see

[long wharf]

and as long as it's sincere and genuine, then the community still needs to hear it

[wild pilot]

Jesus

Ok

[cyan notch]

i mean its still whatever gotta wait for an official news post anyway

this kinda offhand stuff means less anyway

[long wharf]

oh definitely

nothing is more important than delivering on what the community wants

and if the next patch doesn't do that to some degree, then kiss the game goodbye

[cyan notch]

also these snide remarks about nuance of communication is lost on you and only i get it you can be raging mad is pretty silly

it aint that deep

[sour bison]

would be nice to have fully operational hadron shop

feature that were expected to be in game on release

or general shop rerolls

that were datamined in game client month ago

hurr durr we listening feedback and want a game players can be happy with

premium shop already rotated two times

0 new skins you can buy with gold

[cyan notch]

yea that im not too bothered tbh

the penance stuff is fine

if i wanted a cool skin that it thought was worth it id buy it

[scarlet timber]

How important is that passive btw

The one where you need yo brain burst

To get extra damage ?

Warp siphon?

[river willow]

In terms of damage of brain burst, eh. There's a couple, fairly unimportant breakpoints

In terms of synergy with other talents, can be good

[scarlet timber]

No warp siphon I meant

The passive you get

[river willow]

Which one is that again?

I'm bad with names

[scarlet timber]

The one you get +3 percent

Damage per charge and you need to brain burst

To get charged

[river willow]

That is what I was referring to

It increases the damage of brain burst and everything else

[scarlet timber]

Yeah

It's hard to keep up

[river willow]

For brain bursts themselves, it's eh

For other things, hard to say since damage is somewhat random on weapons

The thing is usually you'd look at breakpoints -- how many hits it takes to kill something

But since there's some randomization on weapon damage, that muddies the whole thing since there's way more variance

So the answer is just "probably helpful"

[magic burrow]

https://puu.sh/Jwl43/650797777e.png

[viral solstice]

found her

[lament topaz]

Hm.

[deft fiber]

God.

Let me unseen it.

[river willow]

She's perfect

[cyan notch]

i would pay for better hairstyles

[ebon jolt]

+9% sprint speed with 13% mobility 🤣

[still mountain]

Mobility = dodge

[ebon jolt]

For this weapon Mobility = Sprint Speed, Moving Spread, Dodge Distance, Dodge Limit & Dodge Speed

[scarlet timber]

I seee it just I felt its very hard to keep it up all the time

[river willow]

That's something you probably shouldn't worry about

Probably take the talent that gives you a chance of gaining warp charges when an ally in coherency kills something

[scarlet timber]

I see that's good

[still mountain]

Typically you won't be running with your ranged weapon out anyway so I can't see that it's much of an issue. Funny conflicting mod ig.

[warped perch]

Weird seeing you in this chat

[viral solstice]

had to share it with the brain bois

[warped perch]

I don’t get it

[viral solstice]

she look like the fire lady from vermintide 4 sienna (advanced brain)

[lament topaz]

Maybe a little bit.

[halcyon creek]

The more things get added to Darktide from Vermintide 2, the better Darktide will be amirite?

[long wharf]

that's what people keep saying

[lament topaz]

Supposedly.

I’m up for a dual system of server AND P2P.

If they’re in a close enough region to you, join them in a P2P match. If they’re not close enough, make it a server match.

Warframe has a similar method.

And to keep people from changing files, the server does a “validity” check based off the servers last recorded info. Means no offline play, but small price to keep people from editing files to make them OP.

[warped perch]

OHHHH I never played vermantide

I guess I'm not bugbrained

Bigbrained*

[lament topaz]

I didn’t catch it either, don’t worry.

[near wyvern]

@long wharf I looked at the source code, Bloodthirsty should last for 5 seconds after activation.

If there is trusting into that

It should make critical hit rolls always 1 for the duration of it.

[maiden knoll]

Are there any feats that don't work?

[near wyvern]

From what it looks like it's just going to make FS a lesser power sword

[near wyvern]

Feats? No. Blessings? Yes. Are there feats that work like they shouldn't? Yes.

[maiden knoll]

Can you elaborate?

[near wyvern]

Warp Flurry (blessing)
Doesn't really work on Purgatus staff, but does work on Void and Surge.

Cerebral Lacerations
Says it increases only non-warp damage but it also increases your BB damage. Notice that Warp Absorption works off from warp based kills and BB counts towards it.

Ascendant Blaze
Says 10% chance to gain a warp charge from your soulblaze kills, when in fact it's from anyone's soulblaze kills.

[cyan notch]

ascendant blaze

[wet jacinth]

[near wyvern]

mb

[maiden knoll]

Thank you

[cyan notch]

apparently not just bb for lacerations too

[summer prairie]

Warp Flurry only works on voidstrike

[warped perch]

where do you find these charts

[near wyvern]

And more funny things from Blessings that is not clearly listed:

Almost all of them require you to have the weapon out to activate the bonuses except the bonus power % based on peril (Force Sword) and Crucian Roulette (Headhunter Autoguns and Revolvers), there might be more.

Those that do require the weapon to be out for the effect to activate retain their bonuses when swapping weapons until the end condition is met, which is a duration for most but not for all. For example, shredder (gain crit % on repeated hit) resets only on the next chain start, so if you manage to hit mobs 6 times, you can swap to your staff and have +25% crit chance active as long as you don't swing your melee again.

[long wharf]

yeah, that's why I want to play with it

[cyan notch]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2905188402

[warped perch]

Oh awesome thanks!!

[near wyvern]

The challenge is to get it. The blues are starting to like up 😂

[long wharf]

@near wyvern specifically, none of the blessings check for which weapon is active

the game has an event system

some blessings only trigger on events that can only happen when that weapon is being used

projectiles firing, hitting an enemy, etc.

some blessings trigger on world events

enemies hit, for example

that's the difference between whether a weapon blessing works when active or not

[sonic grove]

Would anyone be able to help me doing the cliffhanger penance ?

[near wyvern]

+15% on Purgatus direct damage

I now do 29 damage instead of 25 💪 😂

[long wharf]

it's also something that FartShart can fix, though I doubt their competence to do so properly

[sonic grove]

Im struggling

[cyan notch]

well it works for secondary action and soulblaze too

[long wharf]

apparently laceration doesn't discriminate between damage sources

[near wyvern]

Checked the source code. Many have a condition for the item to be out, power on peril for example does not have this

[long wharf]

so, bad text for that feat description

[long wharf]

you know what's really silly? the +1 stamina (weapon active) perk

FartShart has coded perks that behave properly

so there's no reason for the blessings to not also be only when weapon is active

[clear heath]

I've heard the bloodthirsty blessing also only works when the weapon is active, so no guaranteed crit staves from it

[cyan notch]

thatd be funny with surge voidstrike

but otherwise its kinda whatever

[sonic grove]

Can anyone help me get the cliffhanger penance ?

I can't manage to do it

Have tried for hours

[near wyvern]

The missions that gave an escape into a valk through a bridge are really good for it.

[sonic grove]

well i need to do a private game because i cant do it in public servers

that's why im trying to get help

[summer prairie]

if you are trying to do it with your ult, you'll probably want some warp charges as it increases push strength

[sonic grove]

It does ?!

Now i get why i was struggling

But i also cant get hordes in anyway

My idea was to play in a private server to try to do it

[cyan notch]

for the longest time i thought f was 360

cuz yknow vt2 shout ults

[sonic grove]

Could anyone make a private game with me for the penance ?

[long wharf]

you wouldn't use it for staff crits anyways

unless staves get a major damage buff, I can't image using bloodthirsty to guarantee staff crits being worth the effort

[cyan notch]

good for purg

maybe surge too

left click does truckloads of damage

[long wharf]

uhhh, truckloads?

[long wharf]

definitely potential synergy with purge

here's a better question, though

pushing with melee counts as a hit, but never does damage

is it possible for it to crit?

[lament topaz]

I’m glad that BB can’t get smacked by server desync.

[orchid venture]

While maybe not that high damage, I'm kinda impressed how much stagger most staves do with a left click. Enough to get a dog off someone even

It's a tool i don't use often enough

[near wyvern]

Purge does good on Damnation even without it. A shred duelling sword is a really good bonus, all you ever need.

[lament topaz]

If I BB’d and the server didn’t register it, I’d actually have a deep vein thrombosis.

[near wyvern]

Perma +25% crit is better than guaranteed 100% crit that you need to manage

[long wharf]

I'm thinking a fsword with bloodthirsty+blazing spirit is going to absolutely destroy elites

because of how fast you should be able to get to max soulblaze stacks

waaaay faster than purge ever could

[clear heath]

Well, it never causes bleed from the zealot feat where melee crits cause bleeding, but that could just come down to it not actually counting as a melee attack.
It doesn't stack up the attack bonus on melee hits either so idk

[long wharf]

hmm

likely not, then

[royal wraith]

why no voidstrike or surge

[rigid blade]

Which Dueling Sword is seen as the best?

[royal wraith]

we were on the verge of greatness

we were this close

[atomic dagger]

oh daaang

[south zephyr]

How's this for a void? Worth the dockets?

[royal wraith]

if you like voidstrike sure

[atomic dagger]

just buy and test
dockets are a none issue

[lament topaz]

See, Dueling Swords are only for single targets not hordes like we’re fighting.

[south zephyr]

what's the dump stat for Void anyways?

[atomic dagger]

not sure
dmg?

[south zephyr]

sounds more like purge tbh

[rigid blade]

I’m aware but the MK5 has a Vanguard attack

[atomic dagger]

i personally want everything on void ^^

[long wharf]

on void, you can trade warp res or quell speed

you don't want either to be bottomed out, but having less is fine

of the two, I'd prefer less quell speed, as a proper void staff has Transfer Peril, and proper aiming makes quell speed much less important

[orchid shadow]

Quick question, if you're running Surge and Force Sword, is Quell on Weak Spot hit worth getting on the sword?

[lament topaz]

On paper, maybe.

[orchid shadow]

Would there be a better choice to pair with Deflector than Slaughter?

[wet jacinth]

MkV is heavily Single target.
MkII and MkIV have Increased Cleave Damage
MKII however has manageable Heavies to hit multiple

[lament topaz]

Gotcha.

[long wharf]

MkV has a heavily single target moveset, with the except of the push attack, which is exceptional for horde clear

that's what makes the MkV Combat Axe the best melee weapon for the psyker

[wet jacinth]

Yeh. The push attacks are the only ones I'm not familar with

[long wharf]

and the MkV is the fastest swinging, IIRC

[wet jacinth]

The only push attack I know actively what they do is like Chainsword/evis

[wet jacinth]

Also has defense instead of cleave damage in modifiers. So better dodge speed/distance stuff

Stamina efficiency iirc

[long wharf]

it's so damn good

[summer prairie]

solace was talking about the DS, not antax

[long wharf]

even before you get brutal momentum on it

my bad

I never think about duelling swords

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[wet jacinth]

Axes good too I can agree

MkV Axe is the one without the back blade ?

Or is it the other

[long wharf]

correct

[wet jacinth]

I've heard good things but never tried that particular one

I believe I've only gotten. Solid drops for the Fire axe looking one

MkVIII ?

MkII just seems like a light faster version of MkVIII

[left basin]

still no patch?

[wet jacinth]

No

[left basin]

https://tenor.com/view/tiktok-video-shoulder-shrug-gif-26055463

[sinful stream]

The fire axe one I've found doesn't work as well with brutal momentum (its attacks are all downward chops) antax v has more of a diagonal light attack so once brutal momentum is going you crowd clear easier

[wet jacinth]

Just inhale the copium if you want it

[sinful stream]

You can buy a skin in the shop for the combat axe and make the Antax v look like the fire axe tho, that's what I do

[near wyvern]

@rigid blade

For the duelling sword it depends what you are after. All three deal decent DPS against mutants. Mk II and IV are really close, Mk II is slightly better against trash, Mk IV is slightly better against scab Ragers and Maulers. Mk V is the dedicated mobility stick.

[rigid blade]

I see, thank ya.

[slow karma]

Ok, general chat makes me ill, I live here now.

Hello siblings.

[long wharf]

general chat is indeed a hellhole

[slow karma]

I'm honestly shocked how bad it is. It's literally peak 'Screw this place" for me.

But I enjoy psyker lots enough to focus my chatting on that enough to remain...not there.

[twilit flicker]

For the record I agree with you on shirking real life responsibilities @slow karma

[slow karma]

Anyone sane would

I was more chased off by the gay slur just being completely glazed over as if that's just business as usual for people here.

[twilit flicker]

For much of the internet community, it is.

[slow karma]

No, sorry, it's not.

No other server I'm in would have let that slide.

Even other game communities just as big as this one

They'd crack down on it rapidly, if not just have it outright flagged as a word you straight up cant send in a message

This server has proven to be something special, even to the mods.

[long wharf]

I think maybe your internet experience doesn't match most other people's

for some people, slurs are used regularly, and aren't meant to be taken seriously

[twilit flicker]

I'm not saying that it's ok, that's just how it is though with some places

Anyway, back to work ...

[slow karma]

Fair enough

[long wharf]

regardless, general is a cesspool

psyker chat is the only chat that cares about testing game mechanics and figuring out what's really broken

[slow karma]

Fantastic

[lament topaz]

Yeah, that’s fair. Most of what I see in Vet chat is complaining about drip.

[slow karma]

lol

[violet thorn]

Its more like "is this good?"

because for some unknown reason item quality is not stickied

[lament topaz]

I bought the tanker outfit, ditched the pants and use the eye that everyone complained about because it was rigged the same as the regular eye.

[violet thorn]

tbh I dont care too much about "drip"

[long wharf]

I hate the usage of that word in that way

[violet thorn]

like my dude, we dont even know if they will reorganize the game causing your cosmetics to disappear or be distributed to all of your classes

[violet thorn]

Its a Gen Alpha thing'

[long wharf]

ugh

[violet thorn]

it gets worse

[long wharf]

I heard my youngest say it and I immediately said "Excuse me, what?"

[violet thorn]

R vs W Rizz

or whatever

[lament topaz]

That shi bussin bussin fr fr on god on god.

[violet thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/die-gif-24778577

[lament topaz]

(Please help me I don't want to be a Gen Z)

[long wharf]

this kind of talk will get you killed in some parts of the world

[lament topaz]

Thankfully I don't talk like that.

Otherwise I'd have willingly moved to those parts of the world.

[violet thorn]

no, they'll just think you are a moron

Children need to be disciplined

[lament topaz]

That they do.

[long wharf]

yep

[lament topaz]

There was a I think sophomore next to me in my 2nd period class and no shit, she had trouble logging into the desktop PC, and then when she finally logged in turned and asked me "Can we use Instagram on these?"

She then proceeded to spend the entire rest of the class period browsing Instagram on the school desktop computer.

[mighty pike]

General chat is like if Nurgle's rot worked on the brain

Although psyker chat is mostly rehashing arguments and asking the same questions

[vagrant cedar]

is the game out yet?

[wet jacinth]

The cleanest Nurgle worshipper

I havent showered in 2 weeks

[long wharf]

nope, still Early Access

[vagrant cedar]

😔

hopefully it gets released before D4

[long wharf]

Diablo 4?

[full kite]

hello brethren

[long wharf]

don't worry, that'll be a shitshow, too

[full kite]

I come with the joyous gifts of laughter

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/109bg61/psa_stop_playing_psykers_in_damnation_for_the/

[vagrant cedar]

well from the gameplays so far it looks way better

the leaked ones

[rigid blade]

Diagnosis: Skill Issue.

[north cradle]

lol lmao

Say goodbye to your boltgun ammo if you don't have someone zapping Ogryns, Specialists, and Gunners

Do I get the kills? Not always. Do I soften them up enough for you to get the kill? Yes.

[full kite]

me zealot main

me see psyker me protecc me get ez game

[north cradle]

Not to mention the staff variety lets me blow up hordes you'd otherwise spam bolts at

Psyker's job is to keep the trash away and open up Ogryns

[sonic grove]

Is purgatus the best crowd control staff ?

[west galleon]

I like the bolt staff

[full kite]

mmm since I use evis I struggle against mixed hordes when ogryns are in there but lightning staff makes me happy cause I get to clean up

[west galleon]

The one with a trigger

I think its customised because it has a shoulder stock

[slow karma]

Purgatus, my beloved

I almost shelved that stave early on

[north cradle]

Purgatus is fine. It keeps my Warp Charge stacks up

Insert Top Gear meme of "This is brilliant, but I like this"

[slow karma]

I'll admit, I can't play the game higher than Malice because my performance is so bad even min'd out

That and I fail enough on Malice anyway :V

[runic gate]

Stopped playing my psyker, but tempted to get on and roll this baby in my shop.

[slow karma]

I'd at least go buy it

[long wharf]

definitely buy it

[north cradle]

I love screwing around on Malice myself with a Kantrael Mk XII instead of a staff

[runic gate]

yeah, only 8k copped it. having fun lvling my alts rn but it's a nice one

[mortal pendant]

god tier

buy it

[runic gate]

i did don't worry lol

[north cradle]

I just really hope that Force Greatsword found in the beta files is released, because I want more Vanguard attacks. Even better if it had Deflector

Claw Sword Mk VII ain't doing it like I thought it would

[west galleon]

I love that sword

But i wanna do the funny ok sign while gaming

[fallow spoke]

I dont think either are that good but which is better

[west galleon]

Scout lasgun

[amber canopy]

that but ogryn

[wet belfry]

Is +3 stamina the max one that curios give?

[magic burrow]

yes but they still only give +1 stamina

[wet belfry]

I suppose its bugged currently?

[magic burrow]

Last I heard it was. I havent tried it myself, though.

[wet belfry]

Oh well ill just wait till likely the next update

[wanton cove]

That would be so cool!

[long wharf]

@near wyvern look what's in my shop right now

[twilit flicker]

I'd go with the first one and upgrade it as you go ... or well don't and hope for a better one.

[twilit flicker]

Can't wait to see it, if it's true

[viral solstice]

lads random q: do psykers get devil claw swords

[mighty pike]

Yes

[viral solstice]

if u have peril block does it make ur parry peril

[clear heath]

ok take your bets, will it be good or useless?

Well fuck, no slaughterer

[wet jacinth]

Rip

[viral solstice]

shred still cool beacuse it affects ur gun

so fun for ur shooty weap

[clear heath]

How long does it last anyways?

[viral solstice]

until u reset it on ur melee

so infinite

[wet jacinth]

Is cool. But I wouldn't rely on it.

[viral solstice]

ye but nice consolation prize for now

crit voidstrike time

[clear heath]

Wait, so it resets if i melee a new target?

wtf that sucks

[viral solstice]

yeah u will usually only have 1-2 stacks active

well

it resets if u push, block, or miss a swing

or some timer with ur melee out i cant remember exact details

[clear heath]

wow that's even worse

[viral solstice]

but best to swap after hitting a single target several times

but most of the time even if ur not deliberately using it u will have 1-2 stacks which is a nice lil buff

[clear heath]

Realistically if something takes multiple swings to kill, i'll be using the special
Which is like 3 hits so i guess i'll have 2 stacks

[viral solstice]

but if u got the goofy double shot on crit void staff deliberately stacking and swapping is probs wurf

[sacred field]

Where is the best place to get 'Going out with a bang'?

[floral crescent]

I'd say best place is at a ledge where a horde is climbing up and hope for the best that there are elites among them

[wet jacinth]

charge BB but with the intent to bust

[coarse cobalt]

I spent all yesterday trying to get that unlock with no success. Blew myself up at least 2 dozen times

[lament topaz]

🤨

[wet jacinth]

I said what I said

[lament topaz]

That's what unnerves me.

[long wharf]

the way I did the self-destruct penance was to cap peril at 100 via BB charge, and then switch to my staff and hit primary fire at 100 while next to stuff I intended to kill

[wet jacinth]

Edged yourself

Issa a good strat when I plan to do the penance myself

[lament topaz]

So that penance is just...use yourself as a bomb?

[wet jacinth]

Yes

you see 3 elites. You go edge yourself 100%Peril and then bust exploding killing the 3 elites

[long wharf]

it's important to also remember that elites are the enemies that spawn and wander around in groups, no announcement audio cues nor locational audio cues

[cloud heron]

And then they beat you to death, because it didn't do enough damage to kill any of them

[long wharf]

nope, you have to weaken them

the best way to do the penance is with a premade that knows what has to happen

[cloud heron]

Because it would be OP if intentionally downing yourself could take care of a full health rager

[long wharf]

which is nobody touches the targets except the psyker who softens them with BB while an ogryn tanks them until you blow them up

[wet jacinth]

I probably wouldve just purgatus burned then bust

[cloud heron]

well if you purge all the way to 100% then you've killed them

plus the dot could cause issues

[royal wraith]

anyone know why the game tells me the modifiers get worse when concescrating?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1021586013472170046/1062841837527773365/image.png

[long wharf]

UI bug, ignore

[stray pond]

UI bug yep

[royal wraith]

aighty thx

on another note

why

[cloud heron]

may want to wait for a purge staff with 76% burn

[royal wraith]

not a big purgatus user, im a surge/voidstrike geezer

got flames on my zealot

[stray pond]

I'd pick that up anyways you never know if it'll get buffed

[royal wraith]

oh i did dw

[spare flax]

TIL psykers can block demonhosts reliably with the peril block trait and a non force sword melee

[stray pond]

Shame that Rending Shockwave wasn't a higher roll

[spare flax]

i had a game where one mutie threw me into the demonhost and activated it. so i tried to block it as long as possible to give the team a chance. then i realised HOLY SHIT its not breaking my blocks! it charged my peril really fast so you cant use the force sword because its a force weapon so half natural quell speed but thats fine because i run tactical axe anyway

idk if this is a known thing i just thought i would share that, it was really fun

[devout belfry]

With the force sword and a quell perk you can quell quickly between hits with a few melee too.

[spare flax]

quell perk?

like a blessing or something or the quell speed stuff

[near wyvern]

Sweet! It's actually a decent play style, I cleared a damnation with the build today and got the penance to rescue all team mates at least once during the run by saving a wipe. It's not the best vs horde and the weakness is dealing with Ragers on your face but it is definitely a very safe build and deals a shit ton single target DPS. Don't forget to reload your gun between encounters or if there is a ranged fight, unload and carry on with BB and knife.

[long wharf]

god damn it, I feel stupid

I thought I bought it

but I didn't, because I took a phone call and forgot to go buy it before the shop rolled over

[near wyvern]

🙈

[long wharf]

fml

[near wyvern]

Now you will never see it again

[long wharf]

basically

[near wyvern]

Mine was a gift from my beloved

[sick solar]

What are the best Stats/Modifiers% for the Purgatus?

[undone quiver]

Huh. And you don't feel like a sad vet?

[lethal folio]

Maximum burn/radius. Crit stuff is good.

Crits ramp burn stacks faster.

[sick solar]

So would Damage, Warp Res and Quell be the 3, 4, and 5 spots, respectively?

[lethal folio]

Yes.

[sick solar]

Thank you. Any special blessing most ppl prefer to run?

[olive ember]

Anything new happen to darktide?

[stoic tendon]

is it just me or are all the psyker staffs just terrible in damnation?

[olive ember]

Just kidding nothing will happen anytime soon

[olive ember]

Purge meta is terrifying barrage and warp nexus

Surge meta is same thing

Forget what voidstrike meta is, probably the “two shots on crit” and “quell on weak point” ones

[long wharf]

surge staff blessings basically don't matter

which means terrible game design on blessing options for the surge staff

[olive ember]

Basically but if yeah those two are still technically meta

Warp flurry would prob be better but it doesn’t work lmao

[manic needle]

Flurry/Transfer Peril works quite well, no idea about Surge but it seems like it's rare enough to not be worth planning a build around getting it

[olive ember]

Does flurry even work

Doesn’t work on surge

[near wyvern]

Sad vet?

https://youtu.be/jCehR1JU1Eg

[sinful stream]

The one that means you can't be interrupted is a blessing I desire on mine. Too many times a little unarmored fucker hits me while.im chain lightning priority targets

[manic needle]

On voidstrike, yes

On Surge? No

[olive ember]

Ah that explains it then

[olive ember]

Maybe it’s cuz I play backline with surge but I typically don’t get hit enough to warrant focused channeling or wte it’s called

[undone quiver]

I guess every time I've tried to gun, I've felt like "why am I not a vet"

[near wyvern]

I only use the gun as a stat stick

[sinful stream]

I perhaps am too aggressive with it

[near wyvern]

And the occasional unloading into a pack of ranged mobs

[olive ember]

Why not just run this on zealot tho

[wet jacinth]

Unloading onto a pack of ranged mobs

[undone quiver]

Ohhhhh

Wait

How much crit bonus does that give

[wet jacinth]

Yes

[undone quiver]

All of it?

[near wyvern]

Because push attack drains your stamina. Kinetic Deflection allows me to have a second stamina bar (peril) for blocking if I need. A lot safer. And also I can deal with elites/specials/ranged mobs from ranged using BB without having to reload and unload the gun.

[undone quiver]

Sure seems like it'd be 100%

[austere estuary]

btw messing with las pistol again

not actually so sure it's as pointless as I thought

[olive ember]

🤔 melee psyker with crucian roulette

Ya know what maybe I’ll try it out

[austere estuary]

with high crit from shred, and ideally a good horde clearing melee weapon with shred

[near wyvern]

Push attack on combat blade deals same damage as a heavy attack but you can do it like 2 or 3 times faster, and you keep things staggered

[olive ember]

You bringing it into heresy+ or this just a malice meme build

[undone quiver]

Combat blade push attack spam is absurd

[austere estuary]

laspistol gets same movespeed as dagger, and the special force push

and then

[near wyvern]

I cleared a damnation with it. Got even the penance for rescuing all other team mates because I saved a wipe in the middle of a horde.

[austere estuary]

basically serves as a mobile, anti-ranged healing magic thing

[undone quiver]

I've done that with the knife

It legit just melts

[austere estuary]

knife melts things with push spam but only really single target

[olive ember]

Huh alright I’m intrigued I’ll try it out

[austere estuary]

but that single target is super fucked

[undone quiver]

Well, idr if the save-the-team was damnation for me specifically, but I've saved the team and I've done damnation both with knife

[olive ember]

What stats on knife again

[austere estuary]

I've managed over 3000 dps on reaper with knife in psyk

a grey knife

[undone quiver]

Horde clear too, to some extent

Like, it appears to damage whatever is behind the target or something

Or maybe you just swing and push so fast that it's fine?

[near wyvern]

Yes it's not the most amazing horde clear but you can just drill through. The stagger is really good due to the spammability of the push attack, so it's super safe. And any elites or specials will just die.

[teal kite]

Catachan blade/las pistol best combo

[undone quiver]

But I found my horde clear improved dramatically with it, vs the axe

[austere estuary]

Really? In my case it basically ended up being very slow to clear horde, I'd definitely want something in ranged slot that can clear horde if using dagger

[undone quiver]

Well, could be I was using the wrong weapon before

[olive ember]

You guys run KB for BB burst or refund for more CC

With the knife

[austere estuary]

in general I feel like our horde clearing is far superior with any non-surge staff than any melee we have

in terms of speed of clearing them

[undone quiver]

I was using Brutal Momentum axe, and found knife did horde clear better

[wet jacinth]

As a psyker. "FOR THE EMPEROR!"
Busts at 101% Peril

[austere estuary]

brutal momentum changes a lot

[undone quiver]

That may be true. I generally use surge

[wet jacinth]

Become the Horde clear

[austere estuary]

purg and trauma and void are just SO good at horde

[teal kite]

I love surge to put a leash on dem dogs

[austere estuary]

obv depending on circumstance which is better

[wet jacinth]

Trauma is cope void

[near wyvern]

KB. You want to be able to open up multiple bulwakrs fast on Damnation. You combine it with Psycinetic Aura and you can just ult even just for the CC when needed. The moment you slap an elite with a knife you will get some refunds anyways.

[long wharf]

this means major skill issue

[austere estuary]

trauma is far better than void for control and tight spaces, and vs really big boys imo

[near wyvern]

Plus you don't want to hang at high perils, you need it for the block well.

[undone quiver]

Possible; any idea what I'm missing?

[austere estuary]

while void clearly outdoes trauma on wider open/longer spaces

[long wharf]

use the right combat axe, and push attack with it

no more horde

[undone quiver]

Yeah that's what I was doing

[long wharf]

nearly as fast as a vet with a power sword can

[undone quiver]

It felt like you kinda bap them aside, but don't like, melt them

[long wharf]

faster if a bad vet

[undone quiver]

Could be a bad axe

[teal kite]

NGL the axe just well...hacks away at the horde

One hitter quitters all around

[austere estuary]

but yeah I'm now looking for a good horde clear melee, like actually good at quickly killing, so might try and get good at combat axe mk5

[undone quiver]

It's hard to get good stats and good blessing, idr what the stats are on the one i was using

[austere estuary]

because

[olive ember]

I can't believe that I am seriously going to try running a gun psyker lmao

[simple scaffold]

Devils claw bro

[austere estuary]

las pistol is actually kinda legit I think

[olive ember]

except i don't use the gun

[simple scaffold]

Its not bad

[austere estuary]

in a weird way

surprisingly good elite killing

and that ranged immunity and toughness healing

[olive ember]

I mean the problem imo is that it doesn't do enough, the mobility is nice but you can't actually do much with said mobility

[undone quiver]

Yeah, so I felt like with the axe, it would hit at head level but... not melt them?

[near wyvern]

You just want the one that hits as hard as you can find. Nothing matters from the knife perspective to make it work. +Maniac and +flak are solid perks if you can choose. For blessings, none of them matter.

[austere estuary]

I'll post a video of it plinking a little in pysk in a mo

[austere estuary]

lmao yeah that was my thought too tbh

but looking at it

I think it actually can have a niche

[manic needle]

Condolences on your future disappointment

[austere estuary]

its crits are unusual

they're far higher multipliers than normal

so paired with shred it and crit based blessings things changes a bit

[teal kite]

Any tips on using the purge staff when you get bad rng and face a million gunners

[austere estuary]

melt the gunners

or

if they're far, then bb them

[simple scaffold]

BB duck in and out

[austere estuary]

^

[teal kite]

Yeah

[manic needle]

Ascendant Blaze proc, get in close with deflector and melee, BB spam

[austere estuary]

or melee them, or AB yeah

lots of options tbh

[near wyvern]

You find a corner or a box and start BB. If you don't have Essence Harvest shame on you.

[simple scaffold]

Run deflector is also nice with purg

[near wyvern]

Nah, you want a duelling sword for the mobility and still decent DPS on the muties

[olive ember]

Ideally if you are playing with good team if they are far enough where you cant hit em with purge you should have a vet around to deal with em tbh

[austere estuary]

yeah essence harvest with all psyk comm and ascendant on purg

[teal kite]

I use force sword on mutants, side step and kill

[austere estuary]

is a lot of free toughness

[olive ember]

FS dps on mutie is good enough

[austere estuary]

fs dps on mutie is absolutely lovely yeah

[near wyvern]

Shredder duelling sword, smack enemies 6 times in a row and then you have +25% crit for your purge

[olive ember]

I mean I know technically the meta I'm pretty sure is Antax + Surge but

FS + Surge forever kek

[lament topaz]

I have it head cannoned that the heartbeat we hear when we BB someone is up forcing their heart to beat harder and faster, causing their head to explode from the sudden pressure.

[austere estuary]

btw tehre's a bit of a funky quirk you can use with laspistol as well for toughness

its special attack does force push and costs 10 peril

but

[near wyvern]

No psychic communion, it's not that great. Psycinetic's Aura is so much better. Kinetic flayer and AB provides enough procs. If not then you are not playing on high enough difficulties.

[austere estuary]

it's not a force weapon so quells passively quickly

[teal kite]

We need las pistol and staff combo

Like table top

[austere estuary]

I play plenty on damnation and welcome the extra charges 🙂

unless there's another level of difficulty above that

[near wyvern]

Damnation hi intensity, although last time I did that with a revolver

[olive ember]

Honestly, I feel like PA is kinda not utilized... lets really think about it which classes will actually benefit from ability CD

[near wyvern]

Psycinetic's Aura is just so good team utility

[austere estuary]

are you counting anything below damnation hi intensity as "not playing on high enough difficulty?"

[olive ember]

ogryn and zealot already have built in CD

[spare flax]

i think its important to note too that charges are not that important, like 12% dmg is like half a blessing buff. some talents are just more important

[olive ember]

CD refund*

[austere estuary]

at which point I'd have to ask "high enough for what"? 😛

[olive ember]

vet should basically have 100% uptime when it matters

[near wyvern]

Psyker, Zealot and Veteran

[olive ember]

not realy

Vet should have 100% uptime, zealots should be running 2 charges almost always

[undone quiver]

This is what I was using for the Axe. At head-level, it's not 1-hit-killing hordes, even at head level. Maybe that's a bad expectation? But it felt like it was batting folks around and not killing them

Is it just the wrong axe?

[near wyvern]

Nah, everything from regular herecy and up should do

[olive ember]

also its apparently only individual, so only the person who kills said elite (near you mind you) gets teh CD refund

[austere estuary]

then in taht case I can confirm I am definitely playing on 'high enough' difficulty

[teal kite]

I mostly play malice with heresy sometimes

[near wyvern]

Yes it's individual. But damn you can get 2-3 ults out on a good horde, all at 4 stacks.

[teal kite]

Difficulty above Damnation is going just be gunners and dogs

[near wyvern]

Rager pack coming in goes BRRR

[near wyvern]

With a boss at the same time. When you kill one, a new one spawns

[teal kite]

Gunners give dogs covering fire to close the gap

[teal kite]

Demonhost dog

[olive ember]

every poxwalker now gets a laspistol

[teal kite]

All melee enemies now carry a bolt pistol in the off hand

[olive ember]

Just a reminder that the dogs are classified as Sigma Minoris there is probably a Sigma Majoris somewhere

[near wyvern]

VIII needs like 3 to 4 hits on push attack to kills stuff. You need Mk V and if you really go all in on the play style, have limb splitter and brutal momentum on it.

[teal kite]

My dog from that Hired Gun game would wreck these pox hounds

[undone quiver]

Ah. So, it's the wrong axe

[near wyvern]

Brutal momentum is a must tho

[undone quiver]

Yeah I got that part

[near wyvern]

VIII is a good axe tho, very versatile and better single target DPS than Mk V. But Mk V is the king of the horde.

[undone quiver]

On lower diffs, with the VIII, it's obvious how it's supposed to work (i think)?

[near wyvern]

The Mk VIII I have deletes all horde mobs with a headshot from the first heavy swing. Basically you have light spam for single target unarmoured DPS. Push attack for making some space around you. First heavy attack against flak armour and also as a cleaving hit with brutal momentum, and then the chain heavies to deal good damage to unyielding and carapace. Special for interrupting those Ragers and Maulers who are about to F you up.

[austere estuary]

so

not like it's incredible or even great but

here's a bit of laspistol just plinking a bit

oh

crap

over 100mb

I'll re-encode ;-;

[near wyvern]

Just put it on streamable or something?

[austere estuary]

I think with ghost and reassuringly accurate, plus quietude, it's a pretty good mobile recovery while killing opotion

encode is nearly done

8% toughness, so I guess about 12-13 actual toughness, per weakspot hit

as well as quietude going

[near wyvern]

Isn't it per critical kill?

[austere estuary]

er, per crit kill

yes

while immune per weakspot hit

[near wyvern]

Yes

[austere estuary]

here we go

well under 100

[near wyvern]

I guess you want a shredder melee for that for beefing the crit chance up

[austere estuary]

yeah

this is with shred

need to see what options we have for shred, I know FS, catachan, duelling, tac axe can have

can combat axe get it?

or dagger?

[near wyvern]

Dagger can get shred yes

Kinda best for it since you can do quickly lights on body to get those up

And good dodges

[austere estuary]

shred + brutal momentum might work nicely then

tac axe and duelling both also very quick to build 6 hits

[near wyvern]

Does the special push on Lasgun scale with warp charges like the ult?

Or I mean las pistol

[austere estuary]

as in distance?

[near wyvern]

As in stagger strength / more knockback

[austere estuary]

I'lll look

doesn't seem like it

it is pretty long range though

wonder if it knocks hounds off people

it's always 10 peril though, which I think makes it unique as a non-force weapon that can spam peril up

or maintain it

[near wyvern]

@austere estuary you want a combat axe with decimator and shred if you really want to go all out on a stat stick. Can be even Mk V because why not. Decimator can give you +20% power per repeated hit up to +100% and shred gives you crit chance up to +25%. Conveniently you need 6 hits to max out them both at the same time.

[austere estuary]

decimator didn't seem to stick though I thought

[near wyvern]

Sad noises

[austere estuary]

it's consistent though

anything mega strong doesn't stick, or has very tight conditions, or a short duration

[near wyvern]

Yeah and then there are some really weak ass blessings like 5% crit chance for 5 seconds after dodge

[austere estuary]

that said it will work on ascendant, and this

these two jump ascendant (6) from 54 a tick on mauler etc to 104 a tick

at its first ticks

[near wyvern]

But to be fare, the best buff you can get on AB is to purge staff on top of them.

[austere estuary]

I sort of suspect that 5% might work even when not equipped, but I mean it's basically impossible to easily test

[near wyvern]

Based on source code leak that is not the case. It has the condition for the item to be active.

[covert valve]

I just got blazing spirit on a Force sword and it seems like its doing more dmg per stack vs a normal soulblaze. Does anyone know why that is?

[austere estuary]

that lua wasn't really a source code leak, so much as just datamined right?

[near wyvern]

Critical hits apply double stacks

[covert valve]

ah ok ty

[austere estuary]

I wish this had rolled good finesse

[near wyvern]

So Blazing Spirit on FS applies double the listed stacks. For some reason, Blazing Spirit on Void does not apply double stacks.

[austere estuary]

but at least decimator 4 will be nice to have as a votive

thanks emprah for that one

[near wyvern]

I find it extremely hard to find heads with Mk II for some reason

[covert valve]

damn it already sucks on voidstrike they gotta kick him while hes down

[near wyvern]

That's the way they like it

[austere estuary]

void does get to hit a lot of things at once though

[manic needle]

Staffs having more than 2-3 useful blessings? Not on my watch! (fatshark devs, probably)

[austere estuary]

void has a bunch of good onces, the others suffer a bit

[covert valve]

any viable build with lightning staff (nexus high crit) + blaze forcesword with blazing spirit and animation cancelling?

[near wyvern]

The game is 'fun' for longer if it takes forever to get the stuff you want 🤔

[austere estuary]

That is actually true though, problem is we don't feel like we play much of a part in that

[near wyvern]

Yes. You get rid of the Blazing Spirit and use anything else.

[covert valve]

lol i mean with blazing spirit

[stoic tendon]

this is common loop, dont know why we dont start all the games with the strongest stuff

lol

[manic needle]

At this point Im keeping my old Surge staff just so I can transfer a blessing off of it lol

[austere estuary]

if loot was all from missions, but odds of getting stuff over a certain playtime was the same as the shop, would still feel way better than the shop

even though the item results might be the same

imo

[near wyvern]

Crucian Roulette gun, empty it and slap away. You can get as high as +50% (the buff stacks 10 times, 1 stack per 10% ammo missing)

[austere estuary]

hmmmm

weak stats but

blessings make me think it might be good for hordes anyway

[near wyvern]

This is all right with a Crucian Roulette stat stick. Dealing with scab Ragers can be a pain tho

The perk rolls are unfortunate

[west stream]

Why do I keep getting guns

gimme staves damnit

[manic needle]

First you get guns, then you get staffs with Run 'n' gun

[austere estuary]

you just made me realise something

I thought I wonder what happens on my laspistol when I sprint and shoot without run n gun

guess what

you can do it anyway

[west stream]

oh so that's the point of pistols

huh

[austere estuary]

well I wonder

since it CAN get run n gun

which would then be technically pointless

not sure if intended

[manic needle]

I forget, can you sprint with the alt fire?

Thats like the only thing I can think of that might get enhanced by it

[austere estuary]

run n gun specifies hip fire

but I don't have one with it to check

[manic needle]

Is the push attack not technically hip fired?

[west stream]

nice hat

[austere estuary]

no idea

[west stream]

I just tried with a revolver I have run and gun with

[manic needle]

Might be worth checking to see if you can use it without breaking sprint normally

[west stream]

it slows down for it

[manic needle]

Still a terrible blessing to get on a pistol either way, but at least that would indicate some function

[austere estuary]

it breaks sprint on this pistol

[manic needle]

Okay so maybe thats all it does

[austere estuary]

I'll look out for run n gun now, I'm curious to test it

ooooooh

I have a run n gun trauma staff

so

interestingly, you can't full sprint while charging

but you can sprint to move forward faster while charging vs non run n gun

so there's at least something more to it than the description

run n gun charging sprint is roughly as fast as normal movement

maybe a little slower

BUT

only forwards

strafing and backpedalling still slow, which makes sense since sprinting is only forward

so presumably pistol with run n gun can go very fast while ads

[mighty vault]

too bad it's still trauma

[austere estuary]

trauma my go to for damnation and damnation hi intensity

[long wharf]

yikes

[austere estuary]

man I really want a combat axe mk5 with shred and brutal momentum + good stats

[fast swan]

wait wtf how is this laspistol useful?

how it do so much damage?

[austere estuary]

it also heals toughness 8% (so 10-12 actual toughness depending on curios) per crit kill, and makes me immune to ranged for weakspot hits

and can sprint and hipfire by default

[fast swan]

screenshot of its stats if u have one?

[austere estuary]

the reason it does damage is laspistol crits are a bigger jump than most weapons

[fast swan]

why was its crit rate so high?

[austere estuary]

shred + innate critrate on them might be above normal?

shred adding 25%, base psyker 5%, 5% on weapon perk, not sure if it has more inherently

but wouldn't be surprised

[fast swan]

zamn!

[orchid nest]

it has 15% base

[austere estuary]

look at its damage

[fast swan]

looks like a pretty darn good staff alternative

[austere estuary]

crits are way better than normals

15% base huh, nice

so total hitting 50%

I'm gonna try it out in a bit and see how it works

weakspot being nearly triple, crits being over double, and crit weakspot being actually over triple or even more

infested crit weakspot is quadruple normal body hit

same with flak

unyielding SIX times the damage on crit head vs body

carapace I won't count since I mean yeah

[left basin]

when pamch

[manic needle]

They're co-releasing it alongside Half Life 3

[wheat quartz]

Hey psykers, did Hadron just troll me by putting Exorcist on this Deflector force sword when consecrating, or is it actually good?

[lunar hollow]

im not sure of the force sword meta but that seems pretty good. you wanna hit headshots with the force sword anyways

[manic needle]

Doesnt matter, T4 Deflector

[random wolf]

To be honest Force Swords don't have many good blessings to begin with.

It's really easy to cleave heads with it once you get used to the light > heavy > pause for 0.2 seconds to reset the attack chain

[stray pond]

No that's actually really good especially if you use peril blocking

Hadron did you a solid not a troll

[warped kernel]

I feel like block cancelling or block-push to reset the chain would be faster

[random wolf]

You can try. You really don't have to pause for very long

[warped kernel]

I'll try it out later, i've always just block cancelled or pushed

[random wolf]

Like once you get the timing down its faster than a block cancel

[warped kernel]

lol now I'm uncertain which way I've been doing it since it's just muscle memory, but yeah ill test it out

[teal kite]

hows this bad boy

[manic needle]

Not bad, Limbsplitter preferrable to decimator but beggars cant be choosers in this loot system

[teal kite]

right

when the rebless comes maybe I can eventually get it

[manic needle]

damage stat could also be a little higher

[stray pond]

Fuckin', speaking of damage stat could be a little higher

This is such a disappointing blessing combination to have

[teal kite]

oof

[long wharf]

this is my best axe

[teal kite]

that soul blaze on killing a speclist with head pop seems worthless?

[long wharf]

it is worthless

[stray pond]

Correct it is

[teal kite]

Thats that one hitter quitter

[long wharf]

goes through the horde like buttah

[teal kite]

which through those 3 perks is better

[solid lake]

Its real niche use case is head popping three gunners in a crowd to kill the chaff around them

[teal kite]

of*

I usually use that force weapon perk but considering the other one so I can use my axe more

[long wharf]

oh no

@near wyvern

now Sour Milk is tempting me

[teal kite]

20% damage

[stray pond]

That damage

[teal kite]

I love how the perks are great too

[long wharf]

oh yeah, definitely wouldn't use it for the damage, that's atrocious

[teal kite]

I love the force sword but damn isn't the axe sweet for them quick kills when you need something dead

[rocky cedar]

Has anyone tried using Crucian abuse with crits apply soul blaze blessing on FS? I assume with FS's mediocre cleave it wouldn't be very good

[long wharf]

this is precisely what I want to test

[stray pond]

Mmmm this could be real nice for Gunpskyer

[rocky cedar]

Surgical is ass sadly

[stray pond]

Ah is it?

[long wharf]

whenever you use a gun as a psyker, the emperor sees your heresy and makes note

[rocky cedar]

Resets stacks every time you shoot

[stray pond]

Oh. That's kinda dumb.

[rocky cedar]

Yeah it really is

[stray pond]

So the trick to Crucian Roulette with melee is shoot until you've got 0 shots left and then swap weapons right?

[long wharf]

no

[left basin]

gunker

[long wharf]

you shoot until you have 0 shots right and then swap left.

[left basin]

andddd

[rocky cedar]

Or just shoot, reload, then swap just before the animation finishes

[stray pond]

Fair fair, beginner mistake

[left basin]

what do you use then

[long wharf]

doesn't work if you do it backwards.

[rocky cedar]

You don't need to manually empty a clip

Being halfway through reload animation already leaves you at 0 mag

[left basin]

a soulfart on crit forsword?

fuck i might've had crucian for a LLLOOOOONG time on a thing

[stray pond]

I'm legitimately somewhat tempted to get this gun for my Psyker so that I can do lots of crits

[left basin]

i just hated the idea of gunker so much i've never really considered taking a closer look at it i guess

... what if beebee could crit

...

https://tenor.com/view/cry-sad-gif-25488313

fuck

is there any other psykabusey shit

[covert valve]

rate this force sword I just rolled!

[left basin]

is a sord

[random wolf]

Not sure I'd keep Maniac

[manic needle]

I give it a Deflector/10

[stray pond]

T1 Deflector is saddening but exorcist is a good paired blessing

[random wolf]

I'd swap to Carapace or Unyielding

But otherwise if you fix that, 9.8/10

[inland flower]

would this be worth spending my melk money on?

[manic needle]

Id say so

[covert valve]

yeah ill test the break points

[inland flower]

sweet ty, dont have an Mk V yet

[covert valve]

yeah for sure hopefully my other block efficiency can make up for that

[random wolf]

Good shit.

Melk hasn't given all of my characters anything over 330 base stat the past week

[left basin]

so wait

[stray pond]

If you plan on using it as a Deflector sword I might roll the maniac to stamina or block efficiency, just depends on what you're using that FS for

[left basin]

does crooshin roolet wrok on every class

[stray pond]

Yeah

[left basin]

arggh i'm crooshin

[random wolf]

Lunar makes a great point

[austere estuary]

imo melk is a blessing shop, not a stat stick shop

[random wolf]

Stacked with Tier 4 Deflector that's whack.

[austere estuary]

all the things have minimum t3 blessings and much more often than shop has t4s

[random wolf]

I do agree. Which is why I have nothing to do until the crafting is properly expanded upon.

[austere estuary]

not like they won't let us extract from our existing items

[random wolf]

I don't wanna assume anything and have hoarded the wrong ones lol

[austere estuary]

I mean that's fair

[left basin]

when pamch

[austere estuary]

But it's a toss up there

[random wolf]

That's the assumption but I wanna be 100% certain lolol

[austere estuary]

if you don't, you might then be waiting for ages after, thiinking, 'Wow I wish I had that xyz'

can't win em all

coin toss really

[stray pond]

Rate my depressing FS

[left basin]

i feel like they'll patch crooshin as soon i lay my glowy hands on a croosh stick

[austere estuary]

not depressing at all

amazing

[stray pond]

The depressing part is not having the crutch Deflector. That said I did just get a Crucian Roulette gun from Melk so I might be doing Soulblaze all over the place.

[austere estuary]

even if we can only change one blessing come the time, swapping out exorcist would give you strong options

[stray pond]

Honestly just a higher tier Exorcist would be stellar.

[austere estuary]

I like deflector, but I rarely actually use it atm

[covert valve]

I just got exercist and im trying it out in the training grounds. is it broken?

[austere estuary]

not broken afaik

[stray pond]

It's not broken it's just nice utility

[austere estuary]

just there are a whole bunch of great blessings on FS

it's spoiled for em

[stray pond]

Ah right the actual depressing sword is this

[austere estuary]

executor, shred, deflector, blazing spirit, even superiority is good, bloodthirst too

[random wolf]

I wouldn't be depressed with that.

[stray pond]

It bugged out and locked my second perk without having rerolled the first one ever

[covert valve]

ah its on the 2nd weakspot hit

[austere estuary]

oh

and of course

slaughterer

that's amazing

[random wolf]

Sometimes you wanna use something different.

[stray pond]

It also has Hammerblow. Fuck Hammerblow.

[random wolf]

Just do it lmao

[austere estuary]

oh

[random wolf]

Beats Limbsplitter

[austere estuary]

and unstable power

is also good

though best at t3

[random wolf]

That thing makes me flaccid on any axe I get it on

[austere estuary]

er

t4

[stray pond]

Limbsplitter is good on a specific combat axe

[random wolf]

Which I understand but otherwise. Flaccid.

[austere estuary]

yeah if you're spamming push attacks should be good right

on mk5 c axe

[random wolf]

If you wanna Push Attack and nothing else all day. Maybe the occasional heavy Attack lmao

[stray pond]

This is the sword I use normally which is already nicely crit oriented

[covert valve]

would you want shred on a FS or exorist?

[random wolf]

Exorcist

[austere estuary]

I would take shred over exorcist

easily

[random wolf]

Peril on Block and all

[austere estuary]

shred is incredibly strong

[random wolf]

So the synergy is strong

[stray pond]

Shred with Blazing Spirit

[austere estuary]

^

that works too

shred working on your ranged is just a great sweetener

executor is outrageously good on weapons that don't multiply hard with crit

but

hard to maintain

[wheat quartz]

say for cross-weapon blessing interactions, does warp nexus apply to your melee weapon?

[austere estuary]

woooow

that stat spread

literally 1% off of perfect

er, 3

[stray pond]

This man just showed off a beautiful Purg, obscene

You gotta censor that shit

[wheat quartz]

hahahaha

[austere estuary]

mine is very similar, weaker a little

though I might prefer infested 25 to maniacs

not sure

[random wolf]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046914150363844779/1053086951726661632/image.png

My baby

[stray pond]

...Shit. Dave I can't call my FS depressing anymore, combined with Crucian it's ACTUALLY obscene

Locked t2 infested...

That hurts a little to see

[austere estuary]

once blessings come to swap that'll be even better too

[random wolf]

The other perk was Stamina

So uh

Not much of a choice

[stray pond]

Fair enough

[random wolf]

Besides it's Infested. I'd be damned if 5% makes or breaks a breakpoint

[austere estuary]

ooop melk might get me to spend

executor t4

that's a votive I want