for a whole feat
#psyker-class
unreal sedge
long wharf
this is factually wrong
ornate hamlet
What about the warp charge through soulblaze? That's the main reason I chose it.
long wharf
there's one feat you absolutely should be using with purge, and that's Ascendant Blaze
unreal sedge
why tho
unreal sedge
What about the warp charge through soulblaze? That's the main reason I chose it.
i use kinetic flayer for it
frigid marten
because of the 10%
ornate hamlet
Yeh, 10% from any source.
unreal sedge
ye, 1 stack every 15 sec
and stack lasts 25sec
usually enough to be 4/4 all mission, with a headpop here and there
left basin
long wharf
nope
viscid brook
buy and upgrade?
fast swan
FS is not a weapon without deflector
actually worst melee weapon without it lol
if u cant block bullets with it, just use an axe
long wharf
fsword really needs to generate warp charges on special kill
supple skiff
^
fast swan
warp charges also really need to give 5% dsamage buff as opposed to 3%
supple skiff
with that kind of slaughter roll its still decent horde clear
covert ermine
Blazing spirit is just meme blessing rn. But i like it nonetheless
fast swan
psyker does not scale at all in the damage department when they should most outta all classes
fast swan
naw dont give me a lore reason for game balance
not when the vet in this game could kill a fucking primarch
also there is a skin in the cash shop for a primaris psyker, indicating we are at that level
🤓
supple skiff
lore wise if oour psyker can't match a vet with a lasgun we could barely be an astropath lel
fast swan
true lolz!
covert ermine
On a lvl of lowly peasant psyker. Starting dh1 lvl maybe, extremely bad. Only one psychic power not the whole arsenal
I don't like it too you know!
fast swan
simple psyker buffs: warp charge damge bonus go up, 10% chance to get warp charge through any warp attack kill (ascendant blaze stacks with this), base amount of warp charges goes to 5, that perk extends the amount to 8
and force greatsword is a weapon
and vet is nerfed to the ground so they dont do our job better anyhow
just a few small changes :)
wet belfry
I want psychic communion as an iconic
fast swan
which one is that again?
wet belfry
4% to get warp charges on kill in coherency
long wharf
psychic communion wouldn't be necessary if we had a 10% to get warp charge on any warp attack kill
wet belfry
The only actually good way to get warp charges
wet belfry
I think brainburst is mostly fine
long wharf
BB should get an additional damage buff and charge rate increase based on warp charges
fast swan
i think so too but it should really be 1 shotting most specials
covert ermine
oh also brain burst massiv damage buff
At very least we should have option to scale it with equipment somehow
wet belfry
Id probably also like a buff to our DMR during sprinting
Taking 1.25x while sprinting in such a squishy class is extra punishing
fast swan
Taking 1.25x while sprinting in such a squishy class is extra punishing
why is that a thing lol
wet jacinth
With the 2x while sprinting
wet belfry
Vets have double our toughness
Plus way better toughness regen, ranged options to begin with.
wet jacinth
covert ermine
With the 2x while sprinting
Vets get proper damage and bolter and what psyker gets? Shitty bb to spam 400dmg on monstrosities?
wet jacinth
Dmg is meh
But toughness regen depends which feat you took.
Iirc I run the gain toughness on quell
wet belfry
The elite kill perk on veteran highly outperforms any of the psyker toughness feats.
fast swan
waht does vet get on elite kill?
wet belfry
25% immeaditely then 25% periodically.
fast swan
:/
covert ermine
25 instant regen plus 25 over time
fast swan
man fuck vet
wet belfry
This can stack up
fast swan
on elite kill we can put a tiny amount of damage on nearby fodder
sterile vale
It might be funny if it was 2 stacks of soulblaze on elite kill in coherency and not brain burst
fast swan
maybe next subclass psyker wont be shit lol :/
covert ermine
Psyker is just poor mans guardsman 
clear heath
Honestly i didn't even know it was only on elite kill
I gave up on the feat as soon as i saw it was only 2 stacks of soulblaze on brain burst
I assumed it was any kill tbh
fast swan
I assumed it was any kill tbh
it should be on any elite kill or BB
as in both
would at least look pretty
wet jacinth
It might be funny if it was 2 stacks of soulblaze on elite kill in coherency and...
Change it to a brain bomb
fast swan
elite kill spawns a trauma staff max radius explosion + 2 stacks of soulbalze on the ground
now we're talkin
wet jacinth
I do wish flames/soul blaze was applicable to surfaces and lingered
wet belfry
Honestly i dont think the psyker needs a ton of changes to make it feel better. But a few changes here and there would definitely help.
fast swan
i think warp charges should do something
wet belfry
The class can feel very squishy, rng dependant.
fast swan
indeed
wet jacinth
Psyker has nice skills. But they just don't do enough to be worth using
covert ermine
Problem with splash damage on bb is that just transform psyker into partys scab bomer (but worse)
wet jacinth
honestly kinetic flayer should be passive
Change it to a level 25 passive unlock rather than a feat
fast swan
naw it wouldnt even be busted early game
nvm screw that idea
the gain 30% toughness on gaining a warp charge should be a passive
and FS should grant warp charges
wet jacinth
naw it wouldnt even be busted early game
The tough regen on gaining warp charge feat early on is useless until you have warp charge gaining feats tho
Otherwise you gotta constantly be bbing
fast swan
indeed it is a useless feat but potentially useful later so may feel better as a passive
imagine if psyker has a ability/subclass like swain/rammatra ult
magic burrow
brain burst should always give a warp charge, not just when it kills something
fast swan
i concur
long wharf
brain burst should cost a warp charge, and always kill the target
with the exception of bosses
fast swan
interesting idea
imo BB should just be faster like the kinetic barrage feat
and do a tad more damage
elfin crystal
i think it'd be better if the damage stayed the same but it made an aoe
fast swan
wrack and ruin shoul be base kit on all enemies
elfin crystal
and small push back
rigid blade
What makes Dueling Swords good exactly?
pale basalt
bruh, they shred
rigid blade
bruh, they shred
I haven't used one that much which is why I am asking.
pale basalt
If you don't have a staff with good horde clear, or take a firearm, they do okay against larger groups imho.
BB for hard targets
clearing trash anyway they have a use
fast swan
what if each warp charge increased BB speed by the same amount?
same amount of damage done
rigid blade
If you don't have a staff with good horde clear, or take a firearm, they do okay...
So basically good for single targets and decent against hordes, shit against armor.
pale basalt
yep
rigid blade
Sounds bout right, been dipping my feet into Heresy for the first time so now's a good a time as any to learn which weapons are good.
pale basalt
There are some interesting blessings you can get too, I've been collecting a few
a deflect force sword is very good, but I also switch it up and take my dueling sword
I forget which is which but the one that hits more than one target seems best
rigid blade
I am probably gonna get a Duel Sword, I use Gun Psyker
pale basalt
rigid blade
Mostly cause I end up dying in mid range, which is half the game in my experience.
rigid blade
gunpsyker loadout
I’ve been using the MG XII
pale basalt
I need a better rifle, working on this puppy but ammo pool is kinda low for damnation-
mighty vault
gunpsyker
red wind
gunpsyker is bad guys!!!! you’re supposed to use a force staff!!!!
rigid blade
>gunpsyker
How else am I gonna deal with a ton of regular ranged mooks? At least with Elites I can use BB reliably.
brittle crest
i saw there was a gunpsyker pinned post, is it actually good in an instances? or just kinda meme
pale basalt
lol I do it because I can
fast swan
feat idea to replace quicken lvl 30 feat: soul drain - when at max warp charges, constantly deal 50 damage per second to nearby enemies within 7 meters. 5% of this damage is converted into toughness
encourages psyker to keep warp charges tipped off and go into melee
rigid blade
I do it so I have options for any scenario
fast swan
swain ult from league
pale basalt
my finger hurts from using MG IV tho
rigid blade
The one staff I want to use has a way too short ranged light attack
Yeah
I dislike it, the lack of range mostly, from what I can tell even the Zealots flamer has more range
pale basalt
yeah you don't have very good horde clear but I still kick plenty of ass. I use these feats- wrack and ruin is optional, 2nd feats doent do much for this playstyle
rigid blade
yeah you don't have very good horde clear but I still kick plenty of ass. I use ...
I was gonna use Ascendent Blaze
pale basalt
Kinetic flayer also fine, guns proc it
I do that so I can build charges quickly and also for burst damage on ogryns
rigid blade
Kinetic flayer also fine, guns proc it
Flayer seems like it’s better for automatic weapons
rigid blade
I thought the 4 was semi?
pale basalt
procs flayer okay
4th also can move around I use the ranged reduction too
its semi but is very fast
I thought you were talking feats
I spose ascendant blaze gives you a bit more damage potential with hordes
But I need every last bit of ranged damage so I try and get 6 charges going, MG IV is kind of a tickle gun.
rigid blade
I spose ascendant blaze gives you a bit more damage potential with hordes
Plan for it was to keep up charges
pale basalt
I'll try running it again, it didn't seem to proc well when I used it.
Psychic communion at 4% doesn't seem like much but it keeps me pretty topped up when team is fully engaged.
ornate hamlet
I feel like I have to use Psy Aura and Kinetic Barrage for the Pick n Mix penance.
mighty vault
I guess I should log in for this
ornate hamlet
What is that?
floral solstice
Jello stop being an arsonist pls you'll get jailed
glad tulip
given everything, this purg staff is good? damage is kinda dump stat
marsh token
I have the same build. But in the second perk slot i used the first skill
stray pond
Plasteel comes at the price of playing the game so I don't have all my staves upgraded, this is what I roll with for my Purg
Seems pretty alright
mortal pendant
floral solstice
Baross damnation: here's your 70 plasteel after all that
wanton cove
Yeah but damn kinetic barrage just feels so good
Not sure about 5. But on 4 it helps me deal with the high amount of specials n elites the vet doesn’t catch
magic burrow
lately Ive had some issue where I press my ult key and the animation and voiceclip play, but the ult doesn't actually go off.
long wharf
lag
client played the local FX, but server never got the message
just like how with surge it can look like you're shocking something and it just keeps on as if you aren't
magic burrow
sometimes leads to me panicking because Im playing the 'about to blow my brains out' animation when I was sure I should be at low enough peril because I just ulted
austere estuary
huh not had this before
long wharf
checks the day of the week and time
sage flower
what am I looking for stat wise in a purgatus staff? also blessings?
long wharf
45 minutes too early for weekly Steam maintenance
long wharf
what am I looking for stat wise in a purgatus staff? also blessings?
that one is hot garbage, sell
oh damn, haven't seen this below 50 before
stray pond
Says a lot about the game's current state I feel
long wharf
definitely does
sage flower
that one is hot garbage, sell
I assume the burn stat makes it bad?
or is it the quell speed?
long wharf
the number of people in the chat channels has been steadily declining since release
long wharf
I assume the burn stat makes it bad?
burn is primary stat for purge
it determines how fast soulblaze is applied and max stacks
sage flower
alright. What's the dump stat?
long wharf
there kind of isn't one
near wyvern
@austere estuary @long wharf check this shit out
long wharf
but you can get away with lowered quell
lowered warp res too, but I'd prefer lowered quell
long wharf
<@200122250412818432> <@524039295317835797> check this shit out
https://youtu.b...
what in the ever loving sam hill
does the push attack have higher crit chance/damage?
near wyvern
I did a herecy run with it. Horde clear obviously not optimal but everything melts except crushers, it's quite hilarious and actually very safe with kinetic deflection. You can always BB ranged. I did my run with 132133.
long wharf
that's ridiculous
near wyvern
does the push attack have higher crit chance/damage?
Push attack does same damage as a heavy.
long wharf
did you macro it?
near wyvern
You can just spam it with a lot more attack speed. No I did not macro, it's very easy to get into the rythm and one less thing to worry about. At times you gotta hold your block if you need to reposition.
frail mulch
is this staff any good?
near wyvern
You just keep holding RMB and press and hold LMB at rythm
long wharf
makes me want to test crucian roulette ranged with my soulblaze fsword
long wharf
is this staff any good?
it's definitely usable
near wyvern
Crucian Roulette + deflector blazing spirit can actually be very decent
long wharf
you want to roll crit chance on it though
stray pond
long wharf
Crucian Roulette + deflector blazing spirit can actually be very decent
could be
stray pond
This is a decent example of a purg I feel
long wharf
but that's just the backup to having bloodthirsty+blazing spirit, I think
stray pond
Makes me sad that burn isn't 80% though
long wharf
you still got max 15 stacks on it
near wyvern
A more offencive option is shred + blazing spirit, IMO it's even better than deflector since deflector teaches you bad habits. It's better to find cover and start BB, it's not like you would kill anything anyways if you just jedi deflect all day.
stray pond
Yep, but my nice round numbers aren't there- Actually none of them are so hm
near wyvern
but that's just the backup to having bloodthirsty+blazing spirit, I think
Yeah this combo should work on its own
magic burrow
can BB crit?
near wyvern
Where as this requires you to either give up your ranged, or even better, empty it at the beginning of encounter and then go melee
near wyvern
can BB crit?
Nope
magic burrow
I think I have one of those daggers that stack bleed on crit lying around.
stray pond
Nope but it is buffed by power, which is nice
near wyvern
I think I have one of those daggers that stack bleed on crit lying around.
Just get a weapon with Crucian Roulette, take kinetic deflection and off you go, chopping down everything on your path while staggering them constantly.
magic burrow
probably, but it sounds like a fun gimmick to try out
wet jacinth
However enjoy it while it lasts.
frail mulch
Is there a difference between "Increase Ranged Crit Strike Chance by %" and "% Increased Crit Chance"?
for staves
glad tulip
is it even worth taking crit chance on purg? 
frail mulch
wondering that as well
glad tulip
cuz got that pesky warp nexus... which might as well be useless
sage flower
cuz got that pesky warp nexus... which might as well be useless
what's wrong with warp nexus?
glad tulip
what's wrong with warp nexus?
take a look on previous message about purgatus, add there a warp nexus and tell me
floral solstice
crits on purgatus adds extra stacks, no? i dont use purgatus much anymore tho
glad tulip
no idea
sage flower
From what I understand and have been told repeatedly in this channel, every crit is 2 stacks.
floral solstice
read it a bunch of times myself, just haven't tested it out myself
lethal crown
palpatine lightning psyker best psyker
floral solstice
^
lethal crown
smite all of the things
floral solstice
when do we get to shout "witness your doom"
lethal crown
do you know what you ask?
austere estuary
warp nexus is top tier on purgatus
glad tulip
when do we get to shout "witness your doom"
i like "You are doomed. DOOMED" better
glad tulip
aight then, seems like a keeper then
austere estuary
burn stacks are not linear in their damage, more faster = huge benefit
austere estuary
yeah it's pretty good
glad tulip
probably throw in crit chance perk...?
lethal crown
glad tulip
and leave maniacs?
austere estuary
yes I'd add crit chance
but
I'd wait and see what you get rolled first
second perk before rerolling them imo
austere estuary
if you got crit +5% as the second perk on consecration
glad tulip
austere estuary
you would want to reroll the first one
glad tulip
that's worst case scenario imho
austere estuary
huh?
austere estuary
well yes once you reroll you cannot change
humble urchin
which one should I re-roll?
austere estuary
that's why you consecrate first
what if you'd consecrated and rolled +1 stam? not great
humble urchin
probably the first one I guess? 10% on specialist isn't great but it's acceptable for me,
austere estuary
personally I'd reroll the groaners/poxwalkers
humble urchin
it's my only decent weapon anyway.
austere estuary
but either is good
glad tulip
what if you'd consecrated and rolled +1 stam? not great
i remembered now, that those 20% maniacs used to be +1 stam LOL
guess i'd roll maniacs into crit when i up it to yellow
north cradle
austere estuary
this is my favourite blessing combo on a catachan. Not because it's good, but because it's pretty funny to see
slapping things all over the shop
compact cargo
catachan hammer*
austere estuary
stray pond
I can't wait for the crafting system to come so I can get rid of Hammerblow
And probably reroll melee weak spot to Flak
Though this sword bugged out and locked my second perk without ever having crafted on it, so it's a bit sad
austere estuary
I want to take this sword into damnation but not screw with my team
look at how they go flying by the end
with just lights
the last few really get yeeted
alpine portal
worth it?
keen belfry
Well well well, don't mind if I do...
austere estuary
very nice!
fast swan
do y'all think we'll be able to remove both blessings from a weapon or will it do that stupid ass lock in thing when crafting comes out?
austere estuary
no idea really
wonder the same
Since you expend so much though
I suspect both
fast swan
cuz this is a nice sword but if i cant but deflect then its worthless
keen belfry
no idea but i bet they lock it
austere estuary
deflect isn't the be all end all, you can have a variety of FS uses - I intend to have a few eventually
for different purposes
and wow
blazing and shred is a fun combo
blazing applies twice what it tells you
due to crits doubling stack application
fast swan
honestly psyker sucks dick so i'm just gonna wait for the patch where they get force greatsword and trauma staff buffs
long wharf
blazing and shred is a fun combo
fun but not very effective
fast swan
taking a psyker break :/
keen belfry
and yes @fast swan just make a vet and solo content
austere estuary
Psyker completely capable atm, and I don't think buffs will change the playstyle much
fast swan
and yes <@182975480981356545> just make a vet and solo content
naw i want to stay awake
austere estuary
had a pinch damnation mission yesterday, everyone but me DC'd on throneside in the middle of a large horde with a beast of nurgle
trauma and tac axe and managed to pull through pretty fine with the 3 bots
later on 2 managed to reconnect and we finished the rest of the mission with a bot
stray pond
Melk finally brought me some staves, 3 of them at that! ...They all have Run 'n' Gun and shit damage. Of course.
austere estuary
so I wouldn't say psyker sucks, in terms of how capable a class it is - in terms of various busted blessings on staves etc, how hard it is to get class items in the shop, or maybe if you just hate the playstyle or peril management I could get that
fast swan
sucks in comparison to other classes
austere estuary
people keep saying that, I'm not really seeing it tbh
fast swan
the best psyker can offer in a team is shock staff stunbot, which is boring af
austere estuary
hard disagree on that
fast swan
i see, what in ur opinion is da best psyker buuild for a balanced team?
austere estuary
I never even touch shockstaff
In terms of what you bring - if you're running purgatus, there's little better than that for just evaporating and controlling hordes + non bulwarks forever, paired with a shred weapon in melee for example is especially good at just generally melting large numbers of enemies all at once, but lacks in much dealing with long away targets
if you're running void you're capable of pretty much filling in most any gaps
hordes in funnels, elites get knocked over pretty well or staggered, and you have infinite range and good at knocking groups out from cover with a head height secondary
steel egret
I use all but Trauma.
teal kite
whoever said charging the surge staff to full only did extra damage to 1 target was wrong. Im at the meat grinder and when I barely charge it does not kill anything, when charged it either kills or does a lot more damage than a quick burst. This test was done against the groaners
austere estuary
on trauma you've got the abilty to almost perma CC pretty much any unit at all, while also dealing out big aoe damage and evaporating hordes, but you have a lot more to manage on your peril
trauma is my go-to for damnation quickplay
teal kite
Surge staff def does more damage fully charged
austere estuary
and then you have your uniquely powerful melee options - deflector + block resi + 1-2 stam is outrageous for ressing players
basically ogryn shield but during res
the fact you can do everything without end and never consume ammo or grenades is also a big plus for you and the team
steel egret
I think its less hassle with shock.
austere estuary
psyker can do a lot of things very well, but you do need to learn a lot more about the tools to really make it sing
sullen summit
Got psyker to lvl 30 last night, got to say when compared to my vet, it's a nice break. It wasn't as bad as everyone told me.
Also because I get to scream unlimited power as I surge staff everything to death.
sturdy radish
which one? blast radius or charge rate?
steel egret
Charge
austere estuary
personally I'd take the blue just for the overall stats
quell, charge and damage all at max is very nice
austere estuary
everything but warp res imo
though void res is not as meaningless on void as on purg and trauma, it's still really minor
austere estuary
for blessings peril transfer is kind of amazing
warp nexus is also very good, and warp flurry I like a great deal on void
steel egret
Surge would be nice
austere estuary
if you have surge imo you definitely want warp nexus with it
and then run a melee wep with shred
at that point rolling crit chance would also be good
outside of that, for perks I dunno, flak damage is always nice too
austere estuary
if you have surge imo you definitely want warp nexus with it
just to clarify for anyone reading this, referring to surge the blessing and not the type of staff
long wharf
Sour Milk is now offering this knife to my vet
austere estuary
that's a lot of bleed!
cyan notch
Sour Milk is now offering this knife to my vet
i got the same on psyker
north cradle
Highest difficulty completed
ornate hamlet
that can't be right lol, i've completed a bunch of them on heresy
long wharf
and of course, my zealot that has no milkies has this in her shop
north cradle
It only tracks after the update that introduced them 
north cradle
It also only tracks the specific mission and map, not the objective
So your assassination in the prison house doesn't count for the assassination in the trainyard
full rampart
what do you guys think of a quality of life option (that can be switched on and off in the input options) that made it so you didn't have to hold R to continue quelling, just tap it like a reload? so then your fingers would be freed up for the directional inputs on your dodges.
north cradle
I wouldn't use it personally, but I'm sure it would be great for those who would do
teal kite
what do you guys think of a quality of life option (that can be switched on and ...
So you're saying quality of life improvements are needed? Is your statement that the Imperium does not provide a quality of life?
mystic dirge
what do you guys think of a quality of life option (that can be switched on and ...
I just bound "R" to a mouse button to free up my fingers
unique barn
yeah, use space to dodge, mouse button to duck/slide
key to jump (or mb)
dodge is the most important thing
full rampart
I just bound "R" to a mouse button to free up my fingers
yeah, i've been considering that, but i am leveling the psyker last, and have already got used to weapon special on m4 and blitz action m5, might still do it though, and just switch controls everyitime i play psyker
unique barn
make sure you can quell while dodging
full rampart
the shift isn't the issue, it's hitting the D key ususally 😄
mystic dirge
aye
unique barn
whatever those keys are 😉
can rebind spot and use Q for ult too, and mix spot with attacks and something else
unique barn
yeah, i've been considering that, but i am leveling the psyker last, and have al...
its a shame keybinds aren't char specific
marsh token
lately Ive had some issue where I press my ult key and the animation and voicecl...
Have the same Issue
restive slate
lately Ive had some issue where I press my ult key and the animation and voicecl...
Sounds like a personal performance issue
tender osprey
what are some good void staff builds? i dont really know what im doing tbh
cloud heron
Does the hair clipping on the psyker collars drive anyone else insane?
covert valve
warp nexus is also very good, and warp flurry I like a great deal on void
nexus flurry on voidstrike is growing on me Im enjoying it
austere estuary
yeah it's really very good on it imo
covert valve
yeah it's really very good on it imo
have you tested to see if it continues to work if you animation cancel the secondary constantly to build stacks? im not great at the animation cancel
austere estuary
no I don't bother with animation cancel on it but I'd expect since you're doing something that isn't holding right click, it'd drop
north cradle
Does Ascendant Blaze cancel Poxburster explosions?
I haven't noticed it doing this previously when it was just Kinetic Barrage
Or am I just firing it off too early?
covert valve
I haven't noticed it doing this previously when it was just Kinetic Barrage
your correct, the other 2 doesnt work 100% of the time i think its due to the fact that maybe the soul blaze applies like 6 points of stagger. you can test the 2 stagger difference in the training grounds
north cradle
So I just gotta bite the bullet and try to use the regular melee push
Gee it sure would be nice for a Poxburster to be available in the Meat Grinder
covert valve
Gee it sure would be nice for a Poxburster to be available in the Meat Grinder
well stagger for like all the enemies in general (apply 4 stacks of soul blaze) then use the ultimate vs other 2
north cradle
How do I measure stagger?
As far as I know there's "wobble," "stumble backwards," and "knocked on ass"
covert valve
How do I measure stagger?
u'll see the difference
cyan notch
As far as I know there's "wobble," "stumble backwards," and "knocked on ass"
yea thats light medium heavy stagger
u basically got it
vale trench
what are the best stats to look for in a blaze sword?
worn heath
what are the best stats to look for in a blaze sword?
damage, finesse, and first target. Warp is sorta important but not at the cost of the other 3, mobility is more quality of life and again not as important as the other 3.
glad tulip
emperor's gift...
cloud heron
is mk4 the good dueling sword?
glad tulip
like uhh
cloud heron
Too bad it's on a psyker. I'd be waiting to yoink that wrath off of it on anybody else
floral solstice
the stats are ok if you're mainly using it for hordes
glad tulip
hordes ain't a problem for a psyker honestly
unless you're playing into dueling sword and surge staff
floral solstice
well yeah if you're running surge for instance you can use that chainsword for melee, just dont expect it to burst muties fast with the low shred
But for hordes? Decent enough
worn heath
is mk4 the good dueling sword?
I prefer mk v cause it's got much better damage on the heavies, and better dodge distance, the cleave damage is sorta negligible between the two
glad tulip
that bad boy has no problem going through mixed hordes
i'd prefer my yet-to-transcend maccie
floral solstice
still wish the chainsword has better sweeps, but that's just me being biased as an evisc enjoyer
cyan notch
unless you're playing into dueling sword and surge staff
even so ds is pretty decent at hordes
north cradle
I just want a Force Sword with some more Cleave
More sweeps more sweeps
I get like one Vanguard move and that's on the second Heavy combo, and I'm still not used to the light-heavy-push combo
north cradle
Yeh I saw this Force Greatsword thing in the list of icons
silk flax
Who needs crit right????
cloud heron
praise sigmar
wet jacinth
still wish the chainsword has better sweeps, but that's just me being biased as ...
Personally I can vibe with chainsword heavy diagonals
But yeah it doesn't compare to Evis
my only gripe is that Evis is zealot exclusive
I love zealot class as a whole (aside from meta methods of playing zealot) but I also find that playstyle numbing (as it is what I did a lot in vermintide already)
in terms of psyker though. I'm unfortunately a melee focused soulblaze player
(aside from the BB elite kill causing 2x stack of soul blaze within 3m. that feat is trash unless they rework it)
vagrant cedar
Crafting still not out?
wet jacinth
nope
pastel warren
force sword
shadow crown
Do voidstrike shots do headshot damage?
cyan notch
yea
shadow crown
what's the bonus
cyan notch
check in your weapon attack breakdown tab
shadow crown
ah cool
placid sorrel
Friendship Ended With Duelling Sword, Force Sword Is Now My Best Friend
unique barn
Crafting still not out?
nope
placid sorrel
Mauler Approaches
Oh you are approaching me?
rigid blade
For a Psyker is toughness worth more or HP?
vernal frost
I'd say toughness since you're pretty much always on the backline and not engaging the horde directly
So not much bleedthrough or damage overall
rigid blade
Fair
ornate hamlet
I'm going to try out a balance set of curios once I get more resources. Health/Toughness/Stamina for blocking.
rigid blade
Also for ascended blaze, should i go with Psychic Communion for my third feat or Psykinetics Aura
manic needle
Toughness trinkets give lower percentages, we have lower base toughness than base health (lowest in the game, actually), we have the slowest toughness regeneration, and many attacks have huge multipliers to toughness damage yet only deal normal health damage
Toughness is a pretty bad deal for Psykers imo
floral solstice
@rigid blade I personally prefer hp even when i use the same logic that bladewolf gave
rigid blade
<@133159810374959104> I personally prefer hp even when i use the same logic that...
I see.
rigid blade
Toughness trinkets give lower percentages, we have lower base toughness than bas...
I dunno, Quietude helps a lot
floral solstice
i run quietitude + surge, pretty easy to top up toughness
rigid blade
I play Gun Psyker
vernal frost
Quititude is overall the safest pick
floral solstice
also, yeah, we're not zealots. Hiding in cover is better than any curios kek
rigid blade
Quititude is overall the safest pick
I tried using Harvest, found it too unreliable
vernal frost
it's RNG dependent at times
manic needle
Harvest works best if youre running a Communion + AB build on Prgatus
rigid blade
I prefer being able to charge up toughness anywhere any time
All I gotta do is right click BB and charge a bit
manic needle
Not really viable in tense situations
vernal frost
Just spam cancel force sword special
manic needle
Quietude is nice but other perks can be better dpending on your build
rigid blade
Not really viable in tense situations
Well at that point I’m using BB normally
manic needle
Or your staff, but youre still only getting toughness during downtime or if you can passive quell
hybrid stump
is flame staff viable in Damnation ?
manic needle
So Quietude is generally better on builds with a non-force melee, or for gun psykers if thats your jam
rigid blade
I play Gun
vernal frost
is flame staff viable in Damnation ?
More than enough
manic needle
Any staff is viable on damnation with good enough rolls
floral solstice
^
manic needle
Even the Trauma staff that most seem not to like
rigid blade
More than enough
Until your enemy is more than 6 feet away, one of the main reasons I dislike it personally.
floral solstice
Even trauma yeah
vernal frost
Until your enemy is more than 6 feet away, one of the main reasons I dislike it ...
Idk about that, it has like 15m reach which is good enough
And you already have BB for anything else
manic needle
Or Ascendant Blaze with Warp Battery
rigid blade
Idk about that, it has like 15m reach which is good enough
I find myself highly doubtful of that, and BB is great against elites and specialists but against 30 mooks shooting you at once?
manic needle
And instead of taking Communion you can take Aura, get those CDs up faster
Or run both Communion + AB with Essense Harvest or Kinetic Overload
vernal frost
I find myself highly doubtful of that, and BB is great against elites and specia...
It has quite the stagger actually
rigid blade
It has quite the stagger actually
I mean like when I gotta shoot regular mooks more than 10 feet away
vernal frost
BB and cover??
elfin roost
Ahem
vernal frost
Deflector power sword with kinetic deflection if you're in a pinch
elfin roost
Gunpsyker-
vernal frost
oh lawd he comin
elfin roost
rigid blade
BB and cover??
Mother fuckers love rushing me and being JUST far away enough where if I try to melee the ones who came to me I expose myself
clear heath
Mother fuckers love rushing me and being JUST far away enough where if I try to ...
If they're rushing you, that's exactly what the purg staff is for
floral solstice
my personal debate rn is kinetic deflection vs shield on my claw sword+surge setup. Shield is always nice for those annoying shooters but on the other hand, i can regen toughness on demand with quietitude anyway hmm
clear heath
so it sounds like that's everything covered
rigid blade
If they're rushing you, that's exactly what the purg staff is for
Touché
elfin roost
Pogga!
vernal frost
If they're rushing you, that's exactly what the purg staff is for
Yeah, 15m is quite a lot
cloud heron
Beautiful
manic needle
75 burn, so close
ornate hamlet
Close to what?
manic needle
15 max stacks, which needs 76+ Burn stat
ornate hamlet
Good to know. I know next to nothing about stuff like that.
manic needle
Check the details tab and look at the burn stat to see how many stacks your staff can apply
More stacks of soulblaze apply heavily scaling damage
You end up doing like 4 per tick with 1 and 100+ with 15, maybe more
vernal frost
these breakpoints got me acting unwise
ornate hamlet
I'm about to check my staff, see what it's really worth.
shadow onyx
hi, what perks are good on sith staff with lightnings ?
ornate hamlet
What I'm working with right now.
manic needle
Cloud Radius/Burn is a bit low but thats a decent staff to use while you look for upgrades
manic needle
hi, what perks are good on sith staff with lightnings ?
Warp Nexus, then something mid like Focused Channeling or Terrifying Barrage. Run 'n' Gun and Warp Flurry are both bad on Surge Staff
Warp Flurry because it's buff duration doesnt actually last long enough to chain attacks together, and Run 'n' Gun because a.) You can already sprint, dodge, and slide with Surge secondary and b.) honestly just not that good to begin with
floral solstice
I have 3 surge staves that rolled run n gun as 2nd bless, thanks hadron
manic needle
Yeah I bet the ability to sprint with left click attack was life-changing 😛
floral solstice
I didnt even know that you can already sprint with surge because i've always had run n gun staves and never found anything better
I'll just flex my running staff blasts
lethal crown
after a lot of practice i can hit things with it while running. sometimes.
elfin roost
Bro this aint even a knife
sudden trellis
did you find this in someone's mess kit?
elfin roost
Yeah its a butter knife
sudden trellis
Munitorum Standard Issue Butter Knife Mk III
shadow wigeon
For Purgatus staff on heresey/damn: essence or quietitude?
orchid nest
the standard is essence because of the synergy with the build but I'd do quietitude if you don't do that. the toughness from absorption is great during a horde but leaves you pretty vulnerable a lot of times when there is ranged
steel egret
I do quietitude with all.
magic burrow
peril doesnt tend to be a big issue with purge, so I use essence harvest as the build racks up a lot of warp charges.
shadow wigeon
I do quietitude with all.
Yeah ive been running surge +quiet so long, i went back to try essence harvest and it was pretty rough
placid sorrel
Bro this aint even a knife
cake knife
proud mantle
does cleave matter for mk 5 combat axe
shadow wigeon
does cleave matter for mk 5 combat axe
you want brutal momentum, any tier is fine
ornate hamlet
should i make a zealot/ogryn now or level my psyker to 30? and do all penance
cyan notch
sure
red wind
what are the best in slot blessings for the flame staff?
orchid nest
you want warp nexus, the other one isn't as important
probably flurry for the second one if they fix it
uneven shard
Is the force sword just insanely rare in the shop or something? I've been playing for weeks now and haven't seen it once
orchid nest
yeah it doesn't show up very often
red wind
you unlock it at level like 4 so the game decides it’s unimportant for some reason
stray yacht
Anyone have tips or tricks for the "kill 3 elites when your mind pops" penance?
wet jacinth
See horde /w elites
Overheat
Probably purgatus/surge idk. Get them low. Then just self destruct
Ofc. Make sure teammates dont kill them
north cradle
Best spawn trap is the Comms Plex Espionage when you have to hold out waiting for the lift
Behind the giant statue where you walked in, there is usually a gang of three Shotgunners spawning out of there
I might need a dedicated team to help me corral them into position with pushes until I can explode
maiden knoll
Hallo, leveling up my psyker. What is the best variant for the dueling sword?
uneven shard
Anyone have tips or tricks for the "kill 3 elites when your mind pops" penance?
Shotgunners worked for me. There's usually two of them and they like to get close. Get like a gunner or something next to them and run in
It's mostly luck, but that's the most consistent way I can think of
stray yacht
Fair enough, that and the 90% on a monster will likely be the bane of my OCD as far as penance goes.
uneven shard
Oh, that reminds me, the penance is worded weird, is it 90% of the health has been damaged and then you need to land the final blow with brain burst, or do you need to DO 90% of the damage with brain burst?
jade geode
If only there were some way to change those results.
A grouping of various functionalities that formed some kind of... system.
One that would change how you created or, crafted, items.
Like a... crafting system.
Wouldn't that be something?
feral topaz
player agency advocate spotted, proceed to shoot on sight.
ornate hamlet
https://old.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/1080qmu/crafted_3_legendary_staff_and...
that reminds me, i need to make this gold..
manic needle
Our prayers have been answered
ornate hamlet
this game fucking sucks
we need Re-Bless
and the devs should make all of this stuff cost less honestly
manic needle
Darktide needs Re-Launch 😛
ornate hamlet
farming missions for this and getting RUN N GUN all the time is so damn stupid
manic needle
At least you have the blessing that matters
feral topaz
still disrespects his time investment
ornate hamlet
it really does
this is why i quit PSO2 btw, the game just doesn't respect player's time invested
feral topaz
last game I played with this type of system was a Korean MMO
the connotation is not a positive one
manic needle
Whats funny is that VT2 was just as random, but at least you could eventually roll what you wanted with enough time and resource investment
Even then people complained about too much RNG in crafting
feral topaz
pretty much
manic needle
So... they made itemization even more RNG based for darktide
feral topaz
if one has to choose between two layers of RNG and five layers of RNG
ornate hamlet
and honestly i'm sick to death of these Devs making games like this that are meant to encourage TEAM PLAY and sticking together, but then at the same time they put stupid books and stuff spread out all over, hidden, forcing people to run all over and search every corner of the mission for the loot
it counters the group play element, and it's just frustrating
feral topaz
what should one choose
ornate hamlet
the items from missions should just be DROPPED from enemies
feral topaz
and honestly i'm sick to death of these Devs making games like this that are mea...
what, you're not a fan of achievements that make players act dumb throwing runs for cosmetics
ornate hamlet
and not from enemies that continuously spawn
ornate hamlet
what, you're not a fan of achievements that make players act dumb throwing runs ...
that either, and you're right, that's even more stupid than having to run all over picking up scrolls
it's lazy
manic needle
In VT2, the grimoires and tomes were always in the same spot, so groups of experienced players just added them to the route
now we have to scavenge random locatoins for them
ornate hamlet
correct, and that's even LAZIER game design
feral topaz
yup
but between fixed positions
and having to search 9 different spots in one map
I choose fixed
ornate hamlet
i'd much rather be farming mobs for rare drops honestly
manic needle
No thanks, the less farming the better
ornate hamlet
like, when i do quit this game, eventually, i'm sure i'll go right back to games that do loot much better than this
manic needle
Item mats are already too much
feral topaz
tbh, having loot drop from mobs doesnt really fit here as it would in something like Diablo
manic needle
Whats funny is that I rarely, if ever, had shortages in VT2
ornate hamlet
i'd rather be out farming loot than being forced to wait on venders to refresh
and loot drops from mission end should be 100% of the time, not once in a while
manic needle
Chests + crafting items was honestly so much better than Shops + Emperor's Gifts
feral topaz
last I checked, in vt2 I got resources in the hundreds, I wouldnt have a problem crafting a weapon from scratch, rerolling it to make it serviceable, then take it out for a spin in 20 minutes
manic needle
Even if chests had useless loot you could break them down for crafting components and then make the exact thing you wanted
then upgrade it and reroll what you didnt like
No BS about perks being locked in
Just roll roulette, which was still bad but better than this
ornate hamlet
have to check vendor constantly, looking for good base rolls on weapons, IF they're even available at all, and 90% of the time they have crap base stats.. and when you finally do find one with good stats, you have to farm a ton of mats running around like you're lost, checking every inch.. instead of actually playing the game
and even then, you get run n gun 90% of the time lol
what even is the point of playing
manic needle
People like Mk. 5 for the mobility, mk. 2 and 4 have better horde clear
ornate hamlet
i prefer mk2
feral topaz
what even is the point of playing
honestly, I kept playing vt2 after getting all the items I wanted. The issue here is that doing just that is an exercise in lottery.
ornate hamlet
got it like this from a mission, haven't changed it at all yet, it's pretty good tho
but i don't use melee much
maiden knoll
Ok thx, so there is no consensus on one.
ornate hamlet
Ok thx, so there is no consensus on one.
the consensus is that combat axe is amazing, even for psyker
manic needle
got it like this from a mission, haven't changed it at all yet, it's pretty good...
Dueling sword, not axe
ornate hamlet
lol... why?
manic needle
Thats what he was asking about
ornate hamlet
ah
well, i do like the blessing on them
but the damage is weak on light attacks, like 1/3rd the damage of axes
quasi pier
have to check vendor constantly, looking for good base rolls on weapons, IF they...
You forgot the part where you find the weapon, it has the stats, you spend the craft materials, and then then the blessings suck and you have a locked useless perk
ornate hamlet
You forgot the part where you find the weapon, it has the stats, you spend the c...
that's what i'm saying tho
i'm very lucky i got warp nexu
of course i got run n gun for the 2nd one tho
they need to just hurry and add re-blessing
feral topaz
I still need to level my psyker but like
ornate hamlet
and, imo, they should make consecrations cheaper, or put more mats in missions
feral topaz
the horror stories I hear about getting that staff you want just make me go
"but do I wanna hurt myself again"
ornate hamlet
well i'm pretty happy with this one despite run n gun
i like that warp resist is lowish, because i have been using Quietitude
i sorta like that it builds more peril
helps me build toughness faster
quasi pier
the horror stories I hear about getting that staff you want just make me go
I wouldn't worry about the staff blessings too much, they seem to be mostly extra not make or break
feral topaz
I wouldn't worry about the staff blessings too much, they seem to be mostly extr...
Aight, I'll start leveling him slowly, hes level 7 rn.
thick pecan
can anyone help me get malleus monstorum
manic needle
You're more likely to find an Ogryn with a Shield than a Psyker with a Kinetic Deflection build efficient enough to tank a Daemonhost
Id say ask in LFG channels but Ive never seen them actually be helpful
deft fiber
I've done few of my penances through lfg channels, but i see less and less people posting about penances. Like 95% is about just farm/chill/damnation runs.
manic needle
Most people who care about them already have them, except for Ogryns and Psykers, who get the most dickish ones
maiden knoll
What are some drawbacks of the force sword?
manic needle
Trash attack patterns that amount to swinging a wet noodle vs. hordes
vague grotto
should i keep flak armoured or roll for crit chance?
deft fiber
What are some drawbacks of the force sword?
Animation lock on a special attack, kinda bad attack patterns.
You can argue it could give warp charge on a kill.
mighty pike
What are some drawbacks of the force sword?
Feels like slapping poxwalkers with a damp straw
manic needle
should i keep flak armoured or roll for crit chance?
Flak is nice, try upgrading first to see what you get
mighty pike
What are some drawbacks of the force sword?
Unusual push/push attack moves but that's subjective
vague grotto
good idea @manic needle
maiden knoll
Thank you guys!
manic needle
Weak Spot damage synergizes well with Transfer Peril, and Crit chance snergizes well with Surge (good luck gettng that lol)
mighty pike
Cons of an axe: nothing
vague grotto
Weak Spot damage synergizes well with Transfer Peril, and Crit chance snergizes ...
is that what i want for purg? transfer peril?
quasi pier
Unusual push/push attack moves but that's subjective
Imo the push and push attack on the force sword is one of the best things about it
mighty pike
Imo the push and push attack on the force sword is one of the best things about ...
It's a polarising property
vague grotto
gotcha
maiden knoll
the consensus is that combat axe is amazing, even for psyker
I was aware about the axe 🤣
mighty pike
Tactical axe is a personal favourite too
ornate hamlet
@manic needle dude why is purgatus so shit at dealing with pox bursters anyway
vague grotto
Nah you want Warp Nexus
i was just asking cause someone told me crit chance is good on purg
i didnt think burn dots could crit
ornate hamlet
all i can say is, WTF
seriously
why does nothing work
this game just feels broken
manic needle
Honestly if I used Purgatus Id just melee push 99% of the time
cyan notch
youre doing it all at the wrong time
quasi pier
The primary downside to the force sword is it is very dependent on the blessings you roll. High upside, can feel meh otherwise
cyan notch
left click or F when its jumping
mighty pike
Purgatus mostly gets big stagger in a full stream. It's no good against poxbursters you're right. Shove or brainburst
ornate hamlet
it's just running at me, and F doesn't knock it back? lol
whoever coded this stuff fails
manic needle
i didnt think burn dots could crit
Purgatus can crit, and you get 2 stacks of soulblaze instead of 1 when it does
vague grotto
The primary downside to the force sword is it is very dependent on the blessings...
speaking of force swords, is shred a good blessing for force sword? as long as i can get lucky enough for deflector?
quasi pier
I have almost 30 force swords, 6 orange, a few purple, and the rest blue. It was all an asinine waste of crafting materials, but I finally got what I wanted
vague grotto
Purgatus can crit, and you get 2 stacks of soulblaze instead of 1 when it does
gotcha, flak armoured damage would still be good though right?
mighty pike
speaking of force swords, is shred a good blessing for force sword? as long as i...
Considering how much you have to spam it to kill even one I'd assume so
vague grotto
Considering how much you have to spam it to kill even one I'd assume so
stack it on a horde and then power it up to one shot a mutie 😄
manic needle
gotcha, flak armoured damage would still be good though right?
I might go crit chance over flak, but Im also not a true Purgatus enjoyer who has tested the staff and tweaked a build for it to its full potential
mighty pike
Repeated hit = same target?
round robin
so, i keep hearing about a glitch with the revolver on psyker
what is it
vague grotto
I might go crit chance over flak, but Im also not a true Purgatus enjoyer who ha...
the only staff i dont like is trauma
quasi pier
speaking of force swords, is shred a good blessing for force sword? as long as i...
It's not bad. Slaughterer is also a great blessing for FS
vague grotto
It's not bad. Slaughterer is also a great blessing for FS
Thank you, also considering it rolled level 3
ornate hamlet
i don't like force sword, and this is the only decent one i've found
vague grotto
i don't like force sword, and this is the only decent one i've found
i would have more if the game didnt think i was playing a veteran 100% of the time and sell me guns
quasi pier
Repeated hit = same target?
I don't believe so. It procs exorcist when I am doing light + heavy + block cancel on hordes
deft fiber
so, i keep hearing about a glitch with the revolver on psyker
what is it
Only common known interaction is a crucian roulette. It applies to all classes who can get this blessing on a ranged weapon. So crit chance transfers to your melee weapon.
ornate hamlet
i would have more if the game didnt think i was playing a veteran 100% of the ti...
i got this as reward from last mission lol
vague grotto
i got this as reward from last mission lol
if only it had infernus
mighty pike
I don't believe so. It procs exorcist when I am doing light + heavy + block canc...
If not, then when does it run out? There's no timer on the blessing description
cyan notch
until you swing and hit nothing
mighty pike
So never, essentially
20%+ critical chance almost permanently sounds useful especially on a rapid-attack weapon
cyan notch
i mean if you left click at all when not in combat its gone
mighty pike
i mean if you left click at all when not in combat its gone
Does anybody do that though
quasi pier
Does block cancel stop the stack?
cyan notch
so, i keep hearing about a glitch with the revolver on psyker
what is it
the obvious one is where your character gets parkinsons at high peril
cyan notch
yes
manic needle
Just tested it, yeah thats annoying
good luck aiming with that
At least it seems to just be a visual bug?
maiden knoll
Are dueling swords ineffective against certain armor types? If so, which ones?
wet jacinth
Carapace
depends which variant you're using too iirc
and if you have rending blessings
compact cargo
Funny fact about this, if u try to weapon push it after a psyker presses f on it, it won't work
violet thorn
you did it too early, the push does not have that big of a range
compact cargo
you did it too early, the push does not have that big of a range
It can remove dogs up to 20m, through walls
violet thorn
It can remove dogs up to 20m, through walls
I have never seen it do that
compact cargo
for staggering to t2 range is about 11m
violet thorn
Ive seen dozens of these videos, everyone does it super early
wet jacinth
imagine not just pushing it with melee
cyan notch
gotta push when it jumps not before
violet thorn
imagine not just pushing it with melee
that can be dicey
compact cargo
Can't push it with melee with any form of elevation, won't push far enough
You also can't push on any weapon with bad dodge distance, ussually under 2
F can save a teamate in those cases
cyan notch
Can't push it with melee with any form of elevation, won't push far enough
ive pushed on elevation before
compact cargo
ive pushed on elevation before
Barely works, janky and may not push it far enough to dodge off, not worth the risk.
wet jacinth
pushing on elevation works but you're typically still gonna get hit unless you have far enough dodge distance/speed
compact cargo
Specially bad on hourglass slopes
wet jacinth
psyker has the worst dodge distance too iirc
compact cargo
psyker has the worst dodge distance too iirc
Not true
Psyker only has bad dodge distance on sub 50% mobility weapons
Worst currently is eviscerator
cyan notch
yea they do according to this
compact cargo
yea they do according to this
Base dodge, not weapons
wet jacinth
cyan notch
what
compact cargo
Unless ur running base psyker, u will have more dodge distance than evi at sub 50% mobility
wet jacinth
again what you say has correlation dependent on the melee weapon you bring
since those affect dodges yes
cyan notch
all weapons modify base dodge distance and psyker has the lowest so
compact cargo
all weapons modify base dodge distance and psyker has the lowest so
Yet psyker doesn't have any weapon with a massive malus, like eviscerator does
wet jacinth
like theoretically if a psyker had evis. their dodge distance would worse than what it would be on a zealot
compact cargo
Besides, we are getting off the chart here, fact is pushing on slopes is not recomended
cyan notch
i mean sure but who cares about a random evis
cyan notch
you were the one who pointed out evis
not me
cyan notch
sometimes u dont have a choice anyway
wet jacinth
:/ it happens
cyan notch
what are you gonna do not push it
cyan notch
i personally havent gotten hit in recent memory on slopes
wet jacinth
this has been me when I see barrels sparking and I'm at a edge.
because a teammate hit i t
(may or may not be 75% of the time a evis zealot wide swinging it)
welp most psykers aren't using dueling swords anyhow from what I've seen
or dagger
(probably neither the fact of psykers that take advantage of force sword infinite dodges)
floral solstice
huh, 2nd most common melee i've seen on random psykers is dueling sword
wet jacinth
I've seen mostly force swords. at least in my experience
gray pendant
(probably neither the fact of psykers that take advantage of force sword infinit...
Wait it does that?
gray pendant
It seemed weird that i could dodge more
floral solstice
yeah fs no doubt, but i do see a fair amount of toothpick sword users
then axe/chain after
wet jacinth
Chainsword supremacy
I'm actually still waiting for a good chainsword to drop for my psyker
:c
floral solstice
probably only seen 2 other catachan enjoyers
gray pendant
I would use chain but i keep getting shit ones
wet jacinth
in the descriptions. it's' described as a bigger knife iirc
or something of that sort
floral solstice
too bad most random knife zealots have a smaller brain
wet jacinth
:/
floral solstice
just played a regular t5 and wiped because of another knife zealot getting the zoomies
and then i checked what killed him and it was like 1 bulwark and a bunch of ragers and melee scabs lmao
wet jacinth
knife really teaches newcomers nothing on effective dodge usage (particularly zealots)
floral solstice
tried to rush to save him and voidstrike guy at back died to random shooters dropping in
warped perch
Guys I feel bad I’ve been playing zealot for the past week and haven’t touched my psyker 
wet jacinth
I love zealot. mind you. I also despise Zealot
I already knew even before the betas I was gonna love and hate zealot
floral solstice
i chose to main zealot when i saw the thunder hammer in the trailer
imagine my disappointment when i finally got one ingame
sudden trellis
im surprised that it's not just me that felt the exact same way
maiden knoll
I already knew even before the betas I was gonna love and hate zealot
What do you hate?
wet jacinth
What do you hate?
I played Melee only classes in Vermintide
It's mind numbing to me
Braindead if you will.
maiden knoll
I can see that
wet jacinth
Particularly why I prefer vet/psyker
Ogryn is just a special place
Neither below or higher than the lil uns
maiden knoll
I leveled zealot and ogryn, now I'm doing psyker
warped perch
I first thought zealot was boring but now that I’ve been maining him I like the high risk high reward gameplay
maiden knoll
Vet is not 4 me
warped perch
I wish someone loved me as much as my zealot loves the Beneficent Emperor
warped perch
I hate the helbore 
sudden trellis
I don't really GET what the zealot's role is, personally. It feels like I'm something between the rest of the 3
warped perch
It’s like a hybrid
wet jacinth
Zealot is supposed to push gunners / frontline imo
But not a tank like pogryn
More dmg output
warped perch
Yeah but some zealots also gotta learn how to stay in cover lol
sudden trellis
what do you do when you're down one of those coverless hallways
wet jacinth
I pray smite the wicked doesn't shit out on me and cancel midway
sudden trellis
though i will admit that playing with the knife allows me to LARP counter strike operators
wet jacinth
But when it doesnt and just unreasonably cancels midway. Kills zealot for me
wet jacinth
Can't help. I'm a funny blue fire user
sudden trellis
I feel like void's pretty feat neutral
warped perch
For the level 30 talent I use the BB cast speed increase after f
Increases burst damage on pesky elites
sudden trellis
same here, lets you LARP as a veteran briefly
wet jacinth
For the level 30 talent I use the BB cast speed increase after f
I'd probably only ever use that for the 90% monster dmg penance
warped perch
I'd probably only ever use that for the 90% monster dmg penance
I like it
sudden trellis
it's pretty good imo
bronze hound
Guys, would you go with HP curios or toughness?
sudden trellis
HP, I feel like it's always HP
bronze hound
Yeah, on psyker I mean, right
wet jacinth
Definitely nice yeah but I personally prefer soulblaze stacks on a big horde. Especially T4-5 just reducing them to nothing/low hp
sudden trellis
purgatus is psyker on easy mode, yeah
warped perch
I use voidstrike so I have no prob blowing up hordes
I prefer the extra damage on elites
If I can ever get a bb cast off 😒
wet jacinth
2 toughness and one wound is what I run
Iirc. I run 2 stamina/1 wound.
And then ordo dockets. Though I might've changed those ordos out the last I played.
warped perch
Oreps
violet thorn
Autocorrect usually fucks me
wet jacinth
Inspect it
Put mouse over finesse
Finesse affects attack speed I know that. I forget the other affects
lethal folio
I'd rather have it than warp resist or mobility, but deflector is good enough.
scarlet geyser
gotcha, thanks
wet jacinth
For a single target focus weapon. That's mighty important
warped perch
https://tenor.com/view/marvel-you-had-one-job-loki-tom-hiddleson-gif-11509538
Yesterday my autocorrect changed mutie to muffin
wet belfry
The muffins teleported me to another dimension
wet jacinth
The muffins teleported me to another dimension
They were supposed to be patched from flying into space. But it can still happen
wet belfry
Sometimes the muffins wont either let go of me
wet jacinth
Space muffins
wet belfry
In other instances the muffin works with the sniper.
bronze hound
Yay
scarlet timber
Does everyone
Use force sword
Or does this class has any other viable options ?
deft fiber
Dueling sword, combat axe.
deft fiber
Mobility, fine against horde, poking elites to the eye through obstacles.
scarlet timber
I see which one for dueling swords is the best
deft fiber
I see which one for dueling swords is the best
mk4 most commonly use i believe. They just have different attacks pattern which excels at a bit different things, so just try them all and decide which you like most.
scarlet timber
I seee thx
scarlet timber
mk4 most commonly use i believe. They just have different attacks pattern which ...
From what I tried mkv is the best
Since it's heavies are overhead
cyan notch
not just overhead
they do more damage than the other mark versions
also very high dodge distance
and light 3 does more damage
scarlet timber
Sooo
I'm new
And I need help
Whats my build
If I got voidstrike + mkv
Anyone knows?
What's a good feat for this ?
deft fiber
122133 Most basic one i believe. You can take toughness for quelled peril as 1st feat if you going to spend a lot of time in melee with mk5 after you got at high peril.
scarlet timber
122133 Most basic one i believe. You can take toughness for quelled peril as 1st...
I see thx
deft fiber
As well you can take Communion instead of aura at lvl 15 if you not comfortable to use BB or just don't want to do it a lot.
warped perch
I find communion keeps up a lot of stacks
I'd rather not constantly watch the meter because the tick down bullshit is too fast
wet jacinth
From what I tried mkv is the best
MkV has Defenses vs the MkIV/MkII which have Cleave damage
I prefer MkIV personally
2 heavy stabs
3 diagonal light slashes
Idk if push attack is different between the variants
floral solstice
quality wares only
floral solstice
delicious
summer prairie
MKII push attack is better than MKIV. Same damage profile but can't really headshot with the latter
Well you can, but not as reliably
wet jacinth
I've grown used to doing just pushes ever since Force sword Push attacked made me overheat
frigid burrow
Can someone give me like a brainlet explanation why 'kinetic deflection' feat would be used? Is there a situation where I would want to gain peril
summer prairie
It's much more efficient than blocking with stamina. Depending on your weapon you can block almost indefinitely within a horde
deft fiber
Can someone give me like a brainlet explanation why 'kinetic deflection' feat wo...
Because it's cheap as hell to block with peril + if you not using force weapon, passive quelling can be faster than gaining.
summer prairie
plus it leaves stamina for other things
frigid burrow
Oooh cool
Is the peril % like a flat amount when you block or does it depend on how much the hit would dmg you for
summer prairie
You can think of it being damage based but it's more that different attacks have their own stamina cost templates. But yes, it's at least a good approximation
maiden knoll
I have a question regarding psychenetic wrath, which is a lvl 10 feat. All level 30 feats are based on psychenetic wrath. But what if you take something else at level 10. Are the level 30 feats then useless?
frigid burrow
Cool I'll try it if i ever get a good melee weapon reeeeee
summer prairie
Level 30 feats mean your ult, it's just a case of poor feat naming
cyan notch
feat naming is immesurably complex
maiden knoll
I got gifted this game for Christmas. Was on my steam wishlist but I didn't follow up on it. Once I got into it and learned about all the issues I went on the forum. Just to learn that all issues had been addressed in the beta on top of requesting to delay by half a year.
summer prairie
Meanwhile warp charges used to be called souls, peril used to be called warp charges and soulblaze was warp fire
near gale
I feel like the warp resist based on warp charges feat is a lot better, when you get the 4% chance to get warp charges when some1 in your coherency kills something. The higher the difficulty is the faster you just are at max warp charges.
supple skiff
Still no update eh