psyker-class

[austere estuary]

warpflame dot damage benefits a lot from multipliers

[cyan notch]

i have no problem keeping 6 stacks with just communion and kinetic barrage

[cloud heron]

Depends if you roll deflector when you upgrade it

[manic needle]

Consecrate it and find out, those are nice base stats

[cyan notch]

seems like overkill to triple down on communion + ab + the amount of enemies youre killing with purg

[sick solar]

I'm thinking about saving it until the re-bliss happens...

[austere estuary]

not really - faster charges is also more damage

[cyan notch]

well like i said i usually have 6 stacks without ab anyway

[austere estuary]

and AB lets you burn those charges for even more massive aoe damage and just gain them right back

[manic needle]

If youre running Communion + AB it's probably for Kinetic Overload, which means no 6 stacks

[austere estuary]

I run with the 6 stacks and AB

[manic needle]

Ahh okay

[austere estuary]

btw

effects of adding 60% power to warpflame dot

warpflame loves multipliers it seems

54 -> 104 a tick

Commissar Tyr had been talking about how warpflame gets outsized benefits from 6 warp charges so it got me thinking to test *more multipliers and that was one result of it

[stray pond]

Hey so, does this work with staff attacks, the primary and secondary or is it only BB?

[compact cargo]

yes staffs

[austere estuary]

afaik any staff/FS/BB

or warpfalme

oh yeah that's the other thing

[cloud heron]

only the force sword's special though right?

[austere estuary]

haven't tested

[fallow meadow]

oh, dot can be streghten. Never though of that.

[cyan notch]

mid feat anyway

[austere estuary]

this also gets a bit funny

when churning charges out

had a mutie slamming me around

toughness went up faster than he was damaging me

[blazing oak]

Hey does quietude include passive quelling

[austere estuary]

yes

[manic needle]

yes

[blazing oak]

Nice

[austere estuary]

but

seems it doesn't include the peril transfer blessing induced quelling?

[blazing oak]

Also the force sword push does damage right because I’ve seen some enemies just crumple after using it?

[austere estuary]

not sure about FS exorcism

[cyan notch]

no it does like no damage

[blazing oak]

Like no damage or no damage

There’s a difference

[cyan notch]

literally 0

[fallow meadow]

Don't think FS push do any damage. Remember trying it in the grinder, not even 0 come out of it

[blazing oak]

I swear I’ve just seen the red hit mark and an enemy just die

[manic needle]

Can the FS push trigger Flayer? Ive never really looked.

[blazing oak]

It wasn’t flayer no charge and no blue head

[cyan notch]

well it does no damage so u were probably mistaken

[cloud heron]

Every time I've looked for it i've never gotten it to proc, but i've never attempted actual science or anything over it

[manic needle]

I never really cared tbh, the push counterattack is niche enough that it wouldnt make much of a difference for me either way

[blazing oak]

Hey did you know if you inspect your hands and rotate them at a certain angle you can strangle your teammates

https://i.redd.it/c35umsufpi9a1.jpg

Picture from the subreddit

[cloud heron]

Honestly never thought to try to inspect my hands

[stark junco]

ya'll stacking health or toughness?

[cloud heron]

Health all day, even on veteran

[cloud heron]

Delicious dockets

[manic needle]

@cyan notch Im testing out flayer on FS push attack in the meatgrinder and dealing 1-2 damage on poxwalkers

[ornate hamlet]

more toughness = more toughness gained from perks (because they are % based)

[blazing oak]

Hooray I’m not insane

[cloud heron]

More toughness = nothing, because toughness is percent based

[manic needle]

You have to be right on top of them to deal the damage though

[ornate hamlet]

you're showing your age

[manic needle]

And yeah, FS push counterattack does trigger Flayer as well

[blazing oak]

By counterattack you mean the 2nd part?

Since the first part clenches the fist then the second part pushes

[manic needle]

Yes, the extra push that replaces a meaningful damage based counterattack and pushes enemies farther

Of course I say that but when you can make good use of it, its very nice to have

Pushing out of a horde or staggering ragers for example

[cloud heron]

5000 toughness is going to get deleted by a bomber all the same. Same with the 10x toughness damage a sniper will do. Or however many other enemies have massive multipliers to toughness damage. If you're getting hit so much that those extra 20 points of toughness are mattering, you're probably better off taking health to absorb the chip damage you're probably taking

[ornate hamlet]

lemme stop you right there, you're getting hit by bombers? and snipers? lol

ok bro, you stick with HP stackin then, perhaps you should get downed+1 items

[cloud heron]

The point is that a point of toughness is worth less than a point of health, because enemies deal more damage to toughness than to health

[blazing oak]

It’s harder to dodge snipers when the game doesn’t show the red laser and all you have is the sound while fighting Beast of Nurgle and other mobs at the same time

[manic needle]

Pinned messages has most of the good points for health over toughness stacking

[ornate hamlet]

the pinned messages doesn't even mention the fact that your HP is squat running missions with grims

[manic needle]

One thing that's not mentioned is melee bleedthrough of course

[compact cargo]

Doesn't factor in damage res, like psyker feat. Additionally it doesn't factor in been simply immune to danage at 38% toughness with warp toughness regen

[manic needle]

Honestly if Im actually running grims Im going in with corruption resist

I just dont really do that anymore regardless

[blazing oak]

You’re not always running grimoires

Wait who said this was a constant always equip

[ornate hamlet]

ppl stacking HP and runnin missions for grims and still arguing that HP stacking > Toughness lol

[blazing oak]

And that we can’t change curios based on missions

[ornate hamlet]

situationally better not equal better 😄

[manic needle]

Doesnt that counter your grimoire argument

Im confused

[compact cargo]

Just do condensus
Anything past 38% toughness is pointless, since u hit ur regen point
Less and ur gimping urself, dump rest to hp, don

[ornate hamlet]

look at the arguments people always throw out when comparing toughness stacking to HP stacking, yet they fail to even mention that HP stacking is absolute ass on missions with grims

which is a lot of missions

[compact cargo]

What, how

Grims are pure number wise, not %

[noble mason]

you must run alot of malice if ur picking up grims consistantly

[manic needle]

But even if so situationally better =/= better by your own logic

[compact cargo]

So hp stacking works on it

[ornate hamlet]

when you factor everything in, toughness stacking with toughness regen and utilizing warp absorption trait = you don't even take HP damage unless you're playing poorly

[manic needle]

I just dont understand the arguments youre trying to make for toughness here

[cloud heron]

Your toughness isn't going to save you either if you're relying on surviving hits. 100% is 100%. Every point of health is meaningful

[compact cargo]

toughness regen only works for coherency and is pointless...shit stat dump it

[blazing oak]

Tell me good sir how to utilize warp absorption best on damnation when I’m stunning elites with surge staff?

Would really like to know

[ornate hamlet]

you use essence harvest instead?

warp absorption is better than essense harvest even with surge imo

[blazing oak]

Why essence harvest and not quietude

[compact cargo]

I'll say it again, any point above 38% toughness should go to hp, mostly due to shotgunners

[blazing oak]

What happens at +38%?

[ornate hamlet]

diminishing returns i assume

[compact cargo]

Ur warp charge regen lets you tank riflemen bursts

[blazing oak]

Heretic why not use quietude with surge staff

[compact cargo]

In damnation*

likely less in other difficulties

38% also is 4 bursts and comfy for me to play

[ornate hamlet]

quietitude is dogwater imo

when shit is going down, you need toughness regen on kills

• whether you're getting it from allies kills (as well as your own, even with melee)
  or you're getting it from your warp damage kills,

either way - getting toughness back on quelling is the opposite of when you need toughness
you're quelling when shit is not going down (usually)

[manic needle]

Quietude pairs nicely with F ability + passive quell

[ornate hamlet]

i know, before you even start, you get it on special ability, but that's still dogwater compared to either other option imo

[cyan notch]

nah

[fluid knot]

Quietitude works on any quelling, passive or active, which makes it infinitely better for some setups

[rocky cedar]

It feels good to me with non force sword melee because you can fill peril with staff then swap to melee and regenerate a lot from passive quelling while fighting in melee

[cyan notch]

what is dogwater

[ornate hamlet]

how many of you roll quietude??

[cyan notch]

is that like water but for dogs

[manic needle]

Depends on the staff Im running tbh

[compact cargo]

Why do you need toughness regen in melee anyway, don't get hit

[fluid knot]

Lot of instances where you're in melee and getting shot, so hence its useful

[rocky cedar]

I run Quietude always with surge, and go back and forth between it and the on warp kill one for trauma

[compact cargo]

then ur job as a psyker is to tell vet to stop eating boogers

[ornate hamlet]

i could try using quietude more, but i seriously doubt it'll outperform warp absorption

[manic needle]

I wouldnt pair quietude with Voidstrike, for example

[fluid knot]

If you're basing your functionality on another player being able to pick up slack, you're fucking up before you even started. Fair enough if you only play premades, but if you play pugs that kinda gamble is simply not worth it

[ornate hamlet]

more warp resist = less quelling goin on

[manic needle]

But its nice for Surge, maybe Trauma if thats your style

[elfin crystal]

vets are always eating boogers. gotta deal with stuff yourself

[cyan notch]

warp absorption is pretty lame its only 10% like cool you regen in horde but they arent a problem anyway

[covert ermine]

You quell when you actively slashing horde or elite

[compact cargo]

Then why a are u in melee if ranged is the bigger threat and vet is likely horde clearing

[fluid knot]

Because sometimes you dont have a choice 😂

[ornate hamlet]

in those cases, i bet essence harvest + psychic communion greatly outperforms

[fluid knot]

Are we playing the same game here?

😂

[compact cargo]

Idk never been in a position where my team is both in melee, dealing with ranged too and I can't just pull back and start blasting

[fluid knot]

ALWAYS plan for as much self-sufficiency as possible unless you're playing pre-mades and have absolute confidence in the ability of your team

[elfin crystal]

i find that people can't deal with armored foes tbh. he's kinda right. you have to take it like everyone's with you is a dummy

[compact cargo]

If there's alot of melee ranged holds fire

[tranquil lynx]

no, i've never been hit in damnation, bow before me mortal

[compact cargo]

Outside of gunners*

[fluid knot]

Aye it does come across rather like that dont it :3

[covert ermine]

Damnation? Then you cc bot deal with it

[blazing oak]

So you say when shit going down kill and kill equals toughness. I agree, but on damnation when facing packs of dreg shooters, the surge staff struggles to kill those quickly

[ornate hamlet]

to be completely honest, most people in this channel are absolutely trash psyker players anyway, always talking about how much they love gun psyker lo,l

[blazing oak]

That’s a meme

[ornate hamlet]

nah bro, they're serious about it up in here

[fluid knot]

"You dont play how i like to therefore you must be a shitter! REEEEEE!" < Most shallow argument in the community 😂

[elfin crystal]

i disagree with that. you have god tier range with it

[compact cargo]

People talk gun psyker, but what about infernus stacking with soulblaze psyker

[elfin crystal]

shock em before they shoot. hug walls if you have to while of course staying with your team

[blazing oak]

I’m not talking about range, I’m talking about how the surge staff takes a longer time to kill them then would be reasonable to make the most efficient use out of warp absorption

[manic needle]

Wall hugging is another situation where quietude works well with surge

[ornate hamlet]

i wouldn't know, i'm always using surge, and quite happy with it despite the low dps

[elfin crystal]

oh ok

[compact cargo]

regardless, brain dead players atleast go melee and take slots, so I rarelt can't just go out/f the ranged

[fluid knot]

Stay toxic psyker chat, you're like General 2.0 ❤️ 😂

[ornate hamlet]

even in pugs, and yes many are terrible, we still usually pull off heresy without too much trouble

i don't pug damnation tho

[cyan notch]

its not that bad

i play 99% quickplay

[ornate hamlet]

if i'm doing damnation it's with my friends, i refuse to pug it, waste of time most of the time

[compact cargo]

no one in damnation to pug anyway

[elfin crystal]

not toxic, realist

[balmy zealot]

the damnnation scene is dead on gamepass

[cyan notch]

i was playing malice with bots for full games on gamepass so im not surprised

[ornate hamlet]

it's all crossplay i think, not seperated servers

right?

[cyan notch]

wrong

[rocky cedar]

Even Heresy it feels like a crap shoot for my getting full teams depending on time of day

[cloud heron]

wrong

[balmy zealot]

no crossplay for now

[ornate hamlet]

LOL really?

[balmy zealot]

indeed

[compact cargo]

no crossplay planned

[ornate hamlet]

dude i bet the pug scene there is so much worse 😄

[balmy zealot]

hell yeah

[cyan notch]

he just said it.....

[ornate hamlet]

well, i'll keep that in mind when ppl are complaining about pugs
on PC/steam they're usually not that bad

sometimes i run into better players than me too

or i'm thinking to myself, "wow these pugs makin this easy, noice"

[south zephyr]

[austere estuary]

woohoo!

[ornate hamlet]

welcome to the club

[blazing oak]

Another reminder I don’t have friends to do these penances :(

[scenic tapir]

I don't know if I have the energy to get the 250 and (I assume) 500 mission penance for psyker

[cyan notch]

you talking about pugs as in pick up groups with randoms or quickplay cuz theyre different even though many people use them wrongly interchangably

[ornate hamlet]

find people on the discord to help ya

[blazing oak]

I’m on steam deck I don’t have discord on that

[ornate hamlet]

pugs means pickup groups - as in unscheduled, as in just formed with randos, non-friends or non-guildies, it's a very loosely used term, but in the context i was using it, i'm talking about quickplay

[blazing oak]

So any game sound would bleed through

[scenic tapir]

I did them all in PUGs and just asked people if it was a convenient map for them

[cyan notch]

thats what i said

[south zephyr]

the look is complete 🙏

[blazing oak]

and they all just didn’t kill the elites you needed?

[ornate hamlet]

gotta go fast dude, get to the pack before them

[austere estuary]

I've seen plenty of groups talk and ask

heck

[scenic tapir]

I had a copy-paste message ready to go asking politely if people were ok helping me out with these (aka letting me do them solo)

[austere estuary]

seen a couple of times when people didn't touch monster and asked in chat if anyone wanted to solo it

[scenic tapir]

I sent it in every mission I felt like trying

[austere estuary]

in random groups

[cloud heron]

You can get pick and mix legit on the throneside espionage map

[scenic tapir]

I did them all before the nerfs and it was hell

[cloud heron]

not sure you could reliably get going out with a bang even if the whole lobby agreed to let you try

[cyan notch]

i shoot monster first ask questions later

[scenic tapir]

high intensity is the solution the Pick n Mix and Out with a Bang

[austere estuary]

yeah going out with a bang is surprisingly tricky

[elfin crystal]

really easy in comm plex

[scenic tapir]

Well the explosion does less than a brain burst

[austere estuary]

I got pick n mix just in normal gameplay

[blazing oak]

Now if only I could get a malice commsplex

[austere estuary]

but going out with a bang was a trial

[elfin crystal]

😔

[blazing oak]

Why did they make them punish you for having competent teammates though

[austere estuary]

encourage socialisation I guess

make things that nearly require communication

[blazing oak]

Well the socialization I get is “go find shield Ogryn buddy”

[manic needle]

The penance is dumb, easiest answer

Down yourself for a chestpiece with a green sash and access to your headpieces

[cloud heron]

still, we dont have anything as bad as heavyweight champion

[austere estuary]

in fairness, that's good advice

[blazing oak]

That’s what I’m trying to do!

I’ve had multiple people on the Reddit alone say they were up to do it and then never responded to my comment

[manic needle]

When I was penance hunting the same thing happened here on this discord

[cloud heron]

discord is probably a better place since it's more moment to moment

[manic needle]

People are weirdly flaky, especially if there's VC involved

[blazing oak]

I’m on steam deck so no discord on steam deck which means sound from game will bleed through on microphone and I don’t like talking in VC

[cloud heron]

being on steam deck means analog sticks right?

[blazing oak]

Yeah?

[austere estuary]

one thing I miss about being in a wow guild way back when was the culture of just hanging out in ventrilo with PTT as the norm

so it was easy to lurk-but-clearly-not-be-afk

[cloud heron]

sounds like hell for a PC fps, but more power to you

[austere estuary]

easy to just park yourself as open to chatting but currently not

and if you wanted to not speak it wasn't rude not to

good times

[blazing oak]

Why do you think I’m not playing veteran

[austere estuary]

dual stick fps is usually just fine esp if there's solid aim assist

[cyan notch]

there is

[austere estuary]

that's good to hear

[cyan notch]

theres aim snapping and bullet bending too

[cloud heron]

Didn't actually expect that

[manic needle]

Are you a controller user? I didn't realize

[austere estuary]

a few console fps games really amazed me for how well they played and controls weren't in the way at all

[cyan notch]

i play both sometimes i want to lean back i use a controller

[austere estuary]

Doom 2016 was a big surprise

so fast paced and all that but felt great on controller

and I grew up playing ut99

[manic needle]

Thats the beauty of a PC tbh. Although I havent missed controllers much since switching from XBox 360 to PC

[austere estuary]

I wonder how PC controls will be for armored core 6

that's a game that really goes in hard on the controller

[cyan notch]

theyre nice for racing games and stuff like monster hunter and fighting games too

[austere estuary]

I wouldn't play monhun with mkb, too many multi presses

[cyan notch]

yea mh is really shit on mnk

[shadow wigeon]

Any blessings on dueling sword that matter?

[austere estuary]

shred is always good to have

[manic needle]

I could see that, although I honestly havent played those genres in a while. Ive been doing lots of survival/RPG/RTS/shooters

[austere estuary]

build up 6 hits and swap back to ranged

[stark junco]

What do you think about this?

[rocky cedar]

I think rampage is one of the better blessings for duelling sword as well

[manic needle]

Pretty nice, Brutal Momentum is the way to go for sure

[stark junco]

my current mk v only has 1.5s momentum...

[cyan notch]

shred is the best and the others are pretty mid except for rampage and uncanny strike

[austere estuary]

1.5s is a long time in horde

imo

more than good enough, obv longer is better but

[rocky cedar]

Shred is nice to abuse for ranged but you'll probably be head shotting a lot with duelling sword and crits don't add much damage at that point unfortunately

[stark junco]

decapitator any good?

[austere estuary]

this emprah's gift makes me wish we had more some dodge related feat

[stark junco]

reroll carapace for flak? or reroll block effiency? do a lot of blocking with mk V, but also never seem to run out

[manic needle]

Ehh its mid imo, nice for the low pen stat but Im mostly using an axe like that for horde clear

[rocky cedar]

Those blessings are so bad it makes me sad

[austere estuary]

yeah 😦

if they at least stacked it might be fun

but as is very lacklustre

[cyan notch]

not really crits are still good imo

[austere estuary]

yeah but 5%

[rocky cedar]

Yeah that'd help but I think crit damage and weak point damage one isn't salvageable with how bad they work out in actual damage calcs

[austere estuary]

oh shred

yeah shred is amazing on void

and purg

as in, on your melee accompinment

[rocky cedar]

It's not nothing but you can see it's a much bigger gain on body shot that head shot

Actually looking at that table again it's pretty good for flak

[cyan notch]

they still do like 50% more damage

[rocky cedar]

But I think the gain is much less for heavy attacks which is what I'm usually using on flak

Which MK is that?

[cyan notch]

5

[austere estuary]

what is bad about the non mk5 combat axes btw, in their movesets?

[rocky cedar]

Ok I mostly use IV and I swear the difference are much smaller there

[manic needle]

The cleave is just so much worse

[cyan notch]

their lack of a decent damage cleaving fast push attack

[austere estuary]

oh they don't have the same push atk huh

[manic needle]

Nah I wish

[cyan notch]

kinda sameish

[manic needle]

even then the cleaving lights on the 5 are pretty fantastic when youre using them

[austere estuary]

oh man the time

5am

been a pleasure, I gotta hit the hay

[near wyvern]

7am here, just woke up lmao

You been up all night?

[austere estuary]

yuppp

[near wyvern]

F

[stark junco]

What's best perks for MkV?

[austere estuary]

[manic needle]

You're all wrong, it's obviously midnight. 😎

[manic needle]

Brutal Momentum and Limbsplitter

[stark junco]

Perks not blessings

[stray pond]

Man this Emperor's Gift is something else. One of my few staff gifts and it's hot garbage

[manic needle]

With Kinetic Deflector I'd do one with +stamina or block efficiency, and then Damage vs armor type (infested or maybe flak, ideally) for the other

[manic needle]

wow that damage stat

[stray pond]

Y e a h

Blazing Spirit? That's nice, that's great. Ranged crit strike chance? Lovely. Infested enemy damage? Not that bad. Every other stat? Pretty nice. Then we have the damage. The poor poor damage.

It's getting held onto for if we can ever transfer blessings.

[manic needle]

Im not sure I see Blazing Spirit being all that useful on a Voidstrike

but feel free to tell me if you think Im wrong

[stray pond]

I like it more than Terrifying Barrage or Run 'n' Gun

[manic needle]

Well fair

[stray pond]

It'd probably pair well with Warp Nexus

[manic needle]

But its no transfer peril or Flurry/Nexus

[stray pond]

Do you reckon you could roll Blazing Spirit on a Surge?

I don't imagine you could, but it's an appealing thought

[frozen rivet]

I have a 500 void staff with blazing spirit and it’s useless on it can’t wait to reroll that

[manic needle]

gameslantern doesnt list it, but that is an unreliable site tbh

I dont think Ive seen it either

[stray pond]

It'd be too convenient if the crit oriented staff could roll a crit oriented blessing

[frozen rivet]

Can purgatus roll blazing spirit? Can it even crit? Would be really useful on that one

[stray pond]

Yeah Purg can crit

It applies double soulblaze stacks on crit

[frozen rivet]

Sick

[stray pond]

Dunno if it can roll Blazing Spirit though

That might just be a Trauma/Voidstrike thing

[ashen schooner]

well hello there sir melk

[cyan notch]

wtf u mean base stats are mid

[tired estuary]

Everything isn't 80%, utterly mid

[ornate hamlet]

he means its not 380

[shadow wigeon]

Perks are alright, unstable power is unfortunate.

[stray pond]

My guy you could've had this instead, your deflector FS stats ain't mid

And you got a good tier of the Deflector blessing too

[orchid shadow]

Wouldn't you want the Warp Resistance to be high with Deflector? Or does that not matter for the Blessing?

[stray pond]

Warp resistance is purely for the special attack I'm pretty sure

[cyan notch]

no it doesnt

warp res only for special

[orchid shadow]

Ohhh, okay. I'm waiting for the chance to rebless this thing with Deflector. I was wondering about the Warp resistance.

[stray pond]

This is my next green FS to consecrate to blue. Ain't got any luck with FS's.

First Target is still a positive modifier otherwise it wouldn't even be an option

I've got a subpar FS so I just use a Devil's Claw instead

Like it works when I use it but it ain't great

THe Devil's Claw I use is my baby, was the first weapon I tried crafting with when I hit level 30

The Devastating Hit being a T1 blessing hurts but it makes up for the low cleave targets

I've got a much better base stat Devil's Claw that I'm trying to craft up but I got a terrible blessing on it

A T1 Hammerblow on a weapon that does miniscule amounts of impact, I hate it

[mighty vault]

I want crafting soon for people using garbage like that

purely altruistically

[stray pond]

By garbage do you mean my Devil's Claw or the fuckin' T1 Hammerblow

[mighty vault]

both but idk what that blessing is on

[stray pond]

Another Devil's Claw

[cyan notch]

no savage sweep

rip

[mighty vault]

why do you have all these devil's claws, they're awful

[stray pond]

I don't even know why it can roll on Devil's Claw

I just think they're neat

[mighty vault]

I've got an incredible one on zealot and it's still just dogshit

[cyan notch]

what incredible one

[stray pond]

Specifically the one with the T1 Hammerblow is a 379 base stat Devil's Claw

[mighty vault]

savage sweep 175% and the like stacking power one

With 12.5% or something 5 times, iirc

[stray pond]

Which is the highest base stat rating I've found yet

[mighty vault]

I'd have to launch the game and go look, all I know is I was stoked to use it and it's just hot trash, lol

[stray pond]

One man's trash is another man's treasure

[mighty vault]

Like yeah wow I can cleave through everything on the screen no matter how much shit, but nothing dies for like ten swings

This is great

[mild tartan]

Got wrapped into a Stellaris campaign for a few days anything new ?

[stray pond]

C'mon it doesn't do THAT little damage

[mighty vault]

I can't help thinking you'd be better off with a chainsword

[ornate hamlet]

evverything is new

everything is awesome

[mighty vault]

and yeah, it's extremely piss poor damage.

[stray pond]

It's definitely not a meta weapon but it ain't that bad either

[mild tartan]

Pressing X

[mighty vault]

I presume in exchange for being the very first weapon you get stuck with and having an extremely basic/accessible/easy swing pattern

Like if you cannot into heavy swings and more complicated patterns than light-light-light then devil's claw is for you

[stray pond]

Parry is also sorta a meme

[mighty vault]

Parry is the coolest thing about a devil's claw

[stray pond]

It is, but it's a meme, so

[mighty vault]

Tbh I completely forgot it exists until you said that, which confirms its meme status unfortunately

[stray pond]

If Parry did scaling damage based on what triggered the retaliating hit then it would definitely not be as forgettable

[manic needle]

finally see a 360+ weapon in the shop
it's this fucking thing
https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/2014830937647885643/F7E04614B5838ED88C206AE70D07768FFD0EF708/?imw=5000&imh=5000&ima=fit&impolicy=Letterbox&imcolor=%23000000&letterbox=false

[mighty vault]

I like the 3-round burst gun

[lethal crown]

i have gotten like 10 of those things as emperor's gifts on my psyker

[stray pond]

I think that's the 2 round burst

[mighty vault]

Nope

Vraks Mk III is 3

It's easy to remember because of the III.

Agripinaa is the 2-round burst

[stray pond]

Ah, well I hate the 2 burst

[manic needle]

On the plus side I finally found a Mk. 2 Tac Axe on my Psyker

Not that want it

but wow it does exist

[mighty vault]

That's not a force sword

[lethal crown]

starting to think these "gifts" aren't really from the emperor and its just melk giving us his trash he couldn't sell so it doesn't take up space

[stray pond]

I run a Mk. 2 Tac Axe on my Zealot, love that thing

I'd be ecstatic if I could get a comparable one on my Psyker

[mighty vault]

With 10% slower attack speed and no crit feats

[stray pond]

I mean if it was the one I have on my Zealot I'd still use it

[manic needle]

As always, it's Mk 5 CAxe on Psyker for me

[mighty vault]

That'd be good on zealot, yeah

[stray pond]

Weird opinion but I feel like Psykers should have access to the heavy sword

[mighty vault]

I'd rather have less garbage shitting up their store roll pools, personally

[stray pond]

It's fine you'd never see it anyways because of all the fucking guns taking up the store slots

[cyan notch]

waiting for fs to nerf upgrade costs

[fast swan]

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-emoji-laughing-gif-20862457

[fringe remnant]

so the force staves have a Mk next to their name. You reckon we'll get difference versions of each one?

[mighty vault]

No

[daring nexus]

Just got my first force sword with slaughterer. Whole shit is it broken

Feels like I’m using a baby power sword

[hybrid stump]

is this staff ok :"<? Will quell speed affect much ?

[round charm]

pretty sure quell is just how fast you reduce peril when purging

[deft trench]

would this be worth putting on a fs over slaughterer t3?

[cyan notch]

absolutely not

[still hearth]

Have people tried if Executor carries over to melee/BB?

Err

Ranged*

[deft trench]

It probably does?

[still hearth]

Could have a niche then.

[deft trench]

Tested it and it does seem to work, but the dmg bonus is so bad it's basically not worth it

My bb goes from like 825 to 862 or smth with max stacks

[still hearth]

That's concerning. Does BB do WS damage primarily then?

Actually that shouldn't even change if Executor is power. This game is kinda wack sometimes

[chrome dune]

level 10, I have decided, this is the ANXIETY class

I was promised mage, this is court jester: a JUGGLER

i have such a big sad I want to drive to Taco Bell and sit in place and count to 10

[sudden trellis]

wdym, psyker's the chillest class

[chrome dune]

nuuuuuu

[placid sorrel]

how do you guys deal with monstrosities?

[sudden trellis]

brainburst for the bonus team-wide damage buff, flame on and kite, because it ALWAYS follows me

[chrome dune]

1. Pop heads for 3% DMG
2. QUICKLY switch weapon and quell, 3-4 sec
3. 15-ish seconds to do actual damage
4. Spend 1/3 of damage time charging attacks
5. In the last 5 seconds of damage time, QUICKLY pop more heads to reset timer
6. Repeat
7. Get big sad when loose Warp Charge stack
8. REPEAT 😭

[sudden trellis]

also, I just love using the force sword powerup on anything I can. what a superb weapon.

[manic needle]

You can just quell down to 97% and spam bb

[placid sorrel]

[sudden trellis]

there's your issue, my friend, BB stacks are completely optional

[placid sorrel]

force sword seems a decent choice

[sudden trellis]

though admittedly, they're a lot harder to get early in comparison to lv 30

[chrome dune]

How do you spam something that targets a single heretic in a room full of them and it takes 2-3 seconds per 🧠 💥 !? 😭

...and put up with feeling sad that you're not helping your team with some melee in the meantime

[sudden trellis]

you get a cool augment to your F at lv 30 that lets you fire off a bunch in a row

which staff are you using

[chrome dune]

it takes so damn long to charge up a staff power, IDK what I am doing. Am only level 10, they won't let me have fire yet. Used ⚡ for a while but now back to trauma.

[manic needle]

...Easily? Also if there's anything else thats pressuring the team during a monstrosity fight that should be first priority

[sudden trellis]

that feel when you stop a Mutant charge via powered up-stab like a train ticket vendor

[placid sorrel]

[chrome dune]

this metaphor makes me swoon!

[sudden trellis]

yeah, i guess I see where you're coming from now, if your staff choice is limited to zap and trauma staff, it can feel very underwhelming if your team doesn't have kill power

[chrome dune]

is 🔥 any better? The video I watched made it seem poggers with BIG reach

[sudden trellis]

fire staff's my favorite for haz 4 and more

I feel like it's kind of the safest pick when hordes are the biggest problem, but also because I rarely see zealots these days

cannonball staff is an absolute baller, however, so satisfying to use

[placid sorrel]

im stuck with my void, really nice

[manic needle]

Some people say that Voidstrike loses steam in high difficulties but I dont see it

[sudden trellis]

I think it's because when everyone spreads out like they're playing ARMA, the horde forks out as well, so you can't melt like 50 mooks in a row anymore.

[chrome dune]

those big booms be bussin bussin fr, but they take a hot minute to heat up 🧑‍🍳

[sudden trellis]

half-way charge is usually more than enough, I find

[chrome dune]

yes

also, it's a bit challenging to see where it's at in bigger crowds. Assume this is less a problem with experience.

[manic needle]

Ideally I'd try to hold hordes at a choke point or at a spawn, before it forks out and reaches the team

[placid sorrel]

you can technically stagger enemies with void at melee range with a quick charge, the balls have wide reach

still quite damaging for the quick charge

[manic needle]

Yeah I only really pull out my FS and stagger push if I get flanked

[placid sorrel]

my fave technique is to strafe charge attack with void staff to skewer enemies at diff angles

[manic needle]

Close range enemies in front of you can be staggered for time and killed with a charged attack, if they need it

@chrome dune You seemed to think that my "spam BB" comment was directed at your complaints about holding onto stacks, but I was referring to monstrosity battles, which ork was asking about

Honeslty as far as stacks go dont worry too much about hanging onto them until you get feats that help you with that

[chrome dune]

oh, yes, sorry, I think you are right about that, lol

[chrome dune]

And yeah, I think that more and more, the 12% maximum DMG buff just isn't worth all the extra stress.

[manic needle]

If you can get stacks and hold them, great, otherwise dont sweat it. The damage boost is frankly not that impressive

The stress and the attention taken away from supporting your team

not worth it

[cyan notch]

it doesnt imo

[placid sorrel]

if this makes sense

[manic needle]

Psychic Communion is a great early game feat once you unlock it, and it will help greatly with stacks both in and out of coherency

[sudden trellis]

what I'm getting is that the red arrows go faster.

but also yeah, railgun movement

[placid sorrel]

[sudden trellis]

the single STRONGEST enemy in the game is an enemy lasgun patrol, also

[manic needle]

Yeah strafing with void is really good for larger hallways and open areas

[sudden trellis]

because they seem to use chameleon cloaking technology against veterans, who do their best to ignore them until they see a blue halo around one's head

[manic needle]

And in big rooms, if there are obstacles that you can funnel the horde through so that theyre coming from 1-2 points, that also really helps

[placid sorrel]

there are alot of chokes in different maps wide enough for the cannonball

also another nice one is clipping enemies hiding behind cover

[sudden trellis]

always swing check doors for hidden hordes

[manic needle]

https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/2014830937648409021/2F1F1E602A01393A795FA954AE026735EC8CB9CA/?imw=5000&imh=5000&ima=fit&impolicy=Letterbox&imcolor=%23000000&letterbox=false

Bought it for the meme

2 380's today, both of them shitty guns, insane

[cyan notch]

itll get buffed

[manic needle]

^I think to myself, huffing copium

and I got a 365 mk. 7 autogun on refresh too xdd

[patent hatch]

I’d eat that shit up

[manic needle]

I buy every 380, since you never know what will happen regarding weapon balance in the future

[patent hatch]

Same got a Trauma staff xd

380

[manic needle]

Any good perks or blessings?

[orchid venture]

I haven't gotten a 380 anything yet 😔
I did get a 379 tac axe, but nothing that vaunted Max Value

[manic needle]

Dont worry, after enough time youll have a nice collection of guns that you wish had spawned on your veteran

[orchid venture]

I don't even have a veteran yet lol

[stray pond]

I've yet to find a single 380 ):

My closest is a 379 Devil's Claw and it got a shit blessing

Wish I understood why you can get fuckin' Hammerblow on a Devil's Claw

[manic needle]

Same reason you can get Transfer Peril on a Trauma staff

because frak you bud

[stray pond]

No kidding

[orchid venture]

it can get kinda silly if you get really good impact blessings on it though, it starts knocking down crushers n maulers like they were regular guys

[manic needle]

And bulwarks if you stand behind them

[stray pond]

Also on my 13th Force Sword not having Deflector- And I guess but that's not what you'd want a Devil's Claw for

[placid sorrel]

devil's claw suppose to be sharp but it's being treated like a blunt weapon

[stray pond]

...Not that there's much you want a Devil's Claw for even if it's my preferred melee on Psyker

[orchid venture]

yeah it wont bat away a bulwark shield i dont think, maybe i just havent seen a really strong one yet

[manic needle]

Nah but with Bulwarks you can wait until they begin their attack animation if you cant get behind them

thats when they drop their guard and become staggerable

[orchid venture]

... i havent actually used a devils claw on my psyker yet, maybe I should give it a shot

[stray pond]

This thing has the potential to be a monster. (I also don't know why Block Efficiency is locked I've never rolled the perks on this thing)

But it's stained, tainted by Hammerblow

[placid sorrel]

that blowss

aha

[stray pond]

Ey'

[manic needle]

I tried it at mid levels for a match or two, then switched off and never went back

[stray pond]

That said Block Efficiency isn't the worst perk to have randomly locked in I suppose

It could help in a sticky situation

[manic needle]

Maybe if I find a good one Ill try it again at endgame sometime

but it felt very unwieldy and underwhelming when I used it

[stray pond]

Melk sometimes has good ones, or you can """craft""" one yourself like I did

This is a half decent one, feels pretty smooth to use

It's my go-to weapon since my Force Swords are all hot garbage

Duelling Swords are pretty damn good though

[orchid venture]

hey has it been confirmed or not if having higher score items in each slot imporves the rolls you get? or is it just level?

[stray pond]

Just level

Being level 30 and RNG are the only factors

And boy does RNG suck ass

[orchid venture]

hmm yeah, shop has nothing I want, melk has nothing I want

[stray pond]

Melk always has the stuff I want for my Pskyer on a different character's shop, which is bullshit

We need a shared inventory >.>

[orchid venture]

but since the weeklies reset, i should start getting more gifts of the emperor again, so that's good

[stray pond]

I don't think that has any impact on getting Gifts?

[manic needle]

20 gifts per week is the cap

[mental vortex]

melk needs a little spanking the way he keeps talking shit to us

[orchid venture]

well whatever it was, I haven't gotten a gift in about 10 missions

[stray pond]

Ahhhh

[manic needle]

Because if there's one thing the game needs, its content gates on getting tiems

[mental vortex]

I dont see him banishing deamons and killing beasts of nurgel

[stray pond]

Damn guess I'm getting 20 412 purple Lasguns

On a Psyker

[deft fiber]

Some people claim that they get more. But whatever if gifts are shit anyway.

[stray pond]

Or even better a purple +1 Stamina curio that I got earlier

On a Psyker

You can justify a +3 Stamina curio, especially with a Deflector FS, but a fuckin' +1 at level 30? Game is high.

[manic needle]

Fun fact, +3 stamina curios still only give +1 stamina bar

[stray pond]

...Huh?? That shouldn't be how that works

[manic needle]

You have to cut FatShark some slack, the game's in early access 😉

[stray pond]

Man I wish this game was in early access, then I could justify getting dropped through the fucking world by a Mutant earlier costing me a run

[manic needle]

when you load into a game and immediately get yeeted through the wall and die to the world barrier

[stray pond]

The Ogryn and Veteran who were still alive stopped fighting and started staring at each other and the ground where I phased into the abyss

[deft fiber]

when you load into a game and immediately crashing
repeat till you get in the game

In every crash report i put "FatShark quality stamp" in a text field.

[stray pond]

I've crashed a grand total of 3 times in 2 1/2 weeks. I'm convinced I have the most stable download of Darktide in existence

[deft fiber]

Hope the reading it.

I'm crashing on loading into the mission every session 1-2 times at least.

[stray pond]

It's almost boring how few bugs and crashes I have compared to everyone else

[sharp jackal]

verifying files after each update helps tremendously. Dunno why

[stray pond]

I downloaded Darktide and that was it, haven't verified once.

I feel like if I do verify my game files THEN I'll have something go wrong

[sharp jackal]

i was crashing like crazy before that, it might help someone tho

[stray pond]

1 corrupted file that's making the game run better or some shit

[sharp jackal]

could be, knowing fatshark

[deft fiber]

I've crashing like this since release of the game(haven't played beta) so no hope.

[stray pond]

On a different note I haven't seen a single T5 blessing of any kind in my game yet

Not in Melk's shop, not in the Armoury, nowhere

[cyan notch]

cuz theres only 4 tiers

[stray pond]

Oh right

T4 I mean

I'm a wee bit out of it

[cyan notch]

its just rare

[stray pond]

I know, but I didn't think it was rare to the point where I've never seen one in my own game

[sharp jackal]

I have one in my inventory, on autogun, on psyker

[stray pond]

If I found one I'd keep it just to fuckin' look at it

[cyan notch]

it probably appeared in the shop when you were sleeping

[stray pond]

Psh, probably not. My shop is shit.

[summer prairie]

shop t4 blessings are quite a bit rarer than 380 items

[stray pond]

Oh for sure. I've also never found a 380 c;

I mean I've found a 379 which is close enough I guess, but still

Ugh. Melk has a Heavy Eviscerator I want on my Zealot but I only have enough currency on my Psyker. Dammit.

[deft fiber]

As some guy stated in zealot chat it's also impossible to get t4 via hadron, t3 maximum. And only way to get t4 blessing is Melk shop. No evidence were provided tho, just an experience of dumping a lot of mats into craft.
But if i remember correctly surge that rolling on void staff is t4 blessing and it definitely can be in a credit shop.

[summer prairie]

I'm almost positive I've bought at least two items with t4 blessings from Hadron since the shop nerf

err

Is Hadron the crafter guy? You can definitely craft t4s

If it works like perks, you are less likely to roll T4s on a lower rated item

[manic needle]

Would explain how I got my Voidstrike

[orchid venture]

OOOOOOooo.... thank you hadron

upgraded a voidstrike up to orange, and they gave it a level 3 Transfer Peril

hell goddam yeah

[honest olive]

thanks melk

finally something good

[manic needle]

Congrats

[honest olive]

tyty

[stray pond]

That right there is a nice Voidstrike

[mental vortex]

god roll on the worst staff

[sudden trellis]

man, i have yet to find use for a t-force staff.

[deft fiber]

Put in a trash can till better days.

[cyan notch]

hardly god roll

[mental vortex]

nah its about as good as it gets

better than most stuff in melks shop

[cyan notch]

no quell speed mid

damage eh

[mental vortex]

what

damage doesnt really miss any important breakthroughs

quell is good enough

closest thing to a dump stat on a staff

[cyan notch]

sure but definitely not “as good as it gets”

[mental vortex]

this thing has the best overall stats for a weapon out of all of my 3 classes

its a god roll

[cyan notch]

not to me

good enough roll definitely

[steel egret]

Dog roll

[unkempt charm]

Is it true to pskyer can't get the MK5 combat axe or am I trippin?

[placid sorrel]

poxhound roll

[deft fiber]

You are tripping. I believe.

[unkempt charm]

I saw this and took a look and sure enough I don't have one and I've never sold a weapon not is 450 hours surely I couldn't of just not got one haha I got like 10 of the other two combat axes :/

Someone confirmed you can, ok website is just goofed :/

[placid sorrel]

sometimes i like to put my arms under my psypipes to feel comfy

[orchid venture]

my psypipes are full of a delicious nutrient slurry, sometimes when noones looking I disconnect one and take a swig to keep me goin

[sudden trellis]

(psypes)

[split oxide]

that's Agent Kruger. (Shalto Copley) Elysium
.. WHERE IS MY SAFFER ACCENT !!!

[steel egret]

Mountain dew baja blast

[split oxide]

As a psyker.
Q1: Who would choose CatachanClaw over AtroxMkV.
⚔️ 🪓
Q2: If Claw.. why

[mighty pike]

Mine is the saliva of someone who's had a packet of mints and then cold water

[orchid venture]

yum

[mighty pike]

Speaking of freaks, anybody want to co-op. Down to help someone do their penances if they would like

[orchid venture]

I just have one last one to do, kill a monstrosity by myself

[mighty pike]

I got that and then got the last hit stolen from me

[orchid venture]

yeah, I feel like it's cause people just think you have to do 90% damage to it

[mighty pike]

Very silly

I can fill out your team if you'd like if you give me ten

[orchid venture]

it'd be helpful, especially if you have an ogryn

[stray pond]

Claw. I just think they're neat.

[mighty pike]

Valid

[mighty pike]

I have a level 5 ogryn but I don't think that's useful

[orchid venture]

yeah nah sorry, easiest way to do it is to have an ogryn with a slab shield block a demonhost

[summer prairie]

on lower difficulties easy enough with just peril block

and knife/ds

[orchid venture]

yeah but the penance is on Heresy specifically

[mighty pike]

I did mine on heresy vs. a beast of Nurgle and it was okay

[summer prairie]

on heresy you'll need to do dodging but should still be fine on those two weapons

[orchid venture]

helped a friend of mine do it against a plague ogryn that they just kited around

[split oxide]

even if the damage output is about half?

[orchid venture]

hardest part is just getting pubs to not shoot it dead

maybe I just get something to copy paste in chat at the start of each mission

[stray pond]

Yep. My main melee is a half-decent Devil's Claw.

[summer prairie]

Catachan IV is probably a bit better damnation horde clear than a MKV unless your MKV is perfectly rolled, but certainly much less safe

[olive ember]

But

Deflection FS

[loud peak]

Crucian Roulette is still bugged, rolling a headhunter with 4% then taking the Catachan IV basically gives me a power sword with 20%+ attack speed

[mighty pike]

Once again nothing over 340 in the shop

[split oxide]

tsting out strat now

[austere estuary]

given the variety of effects that do and do not work across weapons, I wouldn't assume it is or isn't bugged at the moment

unless there's a developer statement on it

[mighty pike]

Loaded into a level 2 game with absolutely nobody but bots

This is new

[split oxide]

It seems to work well @ Malice, re-testing at Heresy right now.
It doesn't have a 'nuke' button like FS/Chain.
You prefer using Claw .. as a psyker (not relying on bolter/plasma etc)?

[stray pond]

Voidstrike and Mk IV claw yep

[split oxide]

Ah.. but for surge? Axe?

[stray pond]

I still use my claw

[mighty pike]

Nice

[stray pond]

Partly because it's my best melee, it rolled nicely. I don't have a decent axe.

[placid sorrel]

dogs dreyko, pedigree supper time

[split oxide]

I'll use axe for my Surge, and Claw from my Voidstrike I thnk (4x damafe(]

[floral solstice]

I run claw on t5 too, I specifically prefer the mk 4 moveset

[orchid venture]

that was

a run for the fucking history books, my god

did hab dreyko, having a normal time

and right before the end event, there was a bug

of fucking INFINITE pox walker spawns

like, the noise was unbelievable

[floral solstice]

There's a bug on this perfectly released game with no issues? Heresy

[orchid venture]

and somehow we still fucking beat it

all 10 scans, meanwhile theres both regular spawns and a fucking untenable amount of poxwalkers

I feel like the only reason it was any kind of managable was because I had a void staff

if I managed to hit the waterfall of pox walkers directly it sounded like a fucking nuke going off in my ears

shit that makes me wish I had shadowplay set up

[mighty pike]

Would have been cool to see

[orchid venture]

😔

I'll get shadowplay when my new hard drive shows up

[mighty pike]

Get steelseries moments. It's easy and lightweight

[orchid venture]

oh hmm, i havent heard of this before

[mighty pike]

If something cool happens within the last 90/60/30 seconds, press one button and it clips it

No real recording and storing video necessary

[tawdry shell]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1030839937370701844/1061990434924154942/image.png

what are the better blessing for purgatus?

something like terrifying barrage and quell peril?

or is this good enough

what would you guys consider the perfect purgatus staff?

[tired estuary]

terrifying is redundant on purge, both those are good

[mighty pike]

Everything max except Damage

[tired estuary]

the perks are a lil stinky but good staff otherwise imo

[stray pond]

Those are both great blessings on your Purg, I'd reroll Sprint Efficiency though

[orchid venture]

some people like having focused channeling, makes it so you cant get interrupted while blasting

[tired estuary]

crit chance is good b/c purge gets extra burn stacks on crit

[mighty pike]

Always feels like a waste of a slot. Plenty of ways to just not get hit

[tired estuary]

so ig swap sprint with crit chance or flak

[orchid venture]

yeah im just sayin some people like it

[mighty pike]

I know I'm just offering an alternate position on the subject for the audience

[orchid venture]

hmm... is the Mk VIII axe any good on psyker? the one that has a side heavy swing

I got one with a 371 rating

rolled with a level 2 Decapitator

[placid sorrel]

brutal is a must have for axe for me at least

[orchid venture]

man it's gonna be so nice once we can swap blessings...

[mighty pike]

https://tenor.com/view/never-stop-dreaming-believe-you-can-do-it-gif-12060749

[split oxide]

emperor just gave me a mk4 🫂
gonna test it out now

[floral solstice]

noice, pray for devastating strike/shred etc

[split oxide]

Hmm

[orchid venture]

as much as I like the Mk I sword, it's heavy attacks feel really sluggish, the first one specifically is just like... unresponsive

[split oxide]

moveset says mk4 has 3/4 vangards vs mk1 2/3 vanugards

[floral solstice]

gratz, go to sleep lol

[orchid venture]

mine rolled with 70% finesse, but it's like it takes half a second to actually swing the sword, it doesn't go when I let go of M1

[tawdry shell]

ooohhh

no wonder I feel like I do pretty good damage

[sharp ibex]

FREAKS, are you aware of any feats that break your Kinetic Presence aura?

[sudden trellis]

feets?

[placid sorrel]

uh uhhh

[scarlet timber]

i am geunuinly pissed

why cant this class use

the digging thing?

[proven wedge]

a shovel?

[scarlet timber]

yeah

it had it in prologe!

and i lvoed it

[proven wedge]

I completely forgot it was used in the prologue. That is weird. Apparently the beloved thinks we may be above it's use.

[mighty pike]

Something about our incomparable minds I'm sure

[violet thorn]

How did you guys do the Peril explosion penance?

just pub a ton in malices?

[mighty pike]

Throneside Comms-plex apparently has a gate relatively near the start that spawns 4 shotgunners

[violet thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/batman-hmm-rpx_syria-gif-19045009

[mighty pike]

It's that or get premade and corral some gunners into a corner

[warped perch]

So zealots have aura bugs from a certain feat, do we know if psykers have the same thing?

[maiden wolf]

Focused Channeling is S-tier on the purgatus IMO, it allows you to use it while swarmed.

[covert valve]

if you look at the dmg stat on the fire staff it says something about effecting the dot? but not sure if it is that important havnt tested it much

[mighty pike]

apparently the great majority comes form the stacks of soulblaze it applies, so a %boost to Burn does a lot more than a greater amount of normal damage

[covert valve]

yeah i understand that but im saying it does more then just normal dmg if you inspect that field?

burning intensity range which im not sure how much it effects the burning

[austere estuary]

being able to intentionally take a hit is also useful

instead of releasing a spell early to do a bigger charge for example

[bronze hound]

Doesn't look bad

[mighty pike]

hm idk then. I've always been told Burn>everything. Apparently there's a factor regarding how they stack that does proportionally more damage the more stacks you get

[covert valve]

yeah thats what im trying to get at, being told by ppl who have also not tested haha. So im just seeing if anyone good at math able to test this because i suck at it...

[sour bison]

It's ok but not great

[summer prairie]

it's good, 76 is max burn stacks and good perk+blessing

[bronze hound]

Will do the job for now, knowing how random is everything about this game... I'm happy enough

[austere estuary]

biggest thing for purgatus once you have decent stats from my poking around in psykarium is crit

crucian roulette + warp nexus is huge

also power bonuses help a bunch

er, not crucian roulette

shred

shred + all or nothing on a good axe, or shred + whatever you like from a number of good secondaries on force sword are very good melee choices to combo w/ & complement a purgatus

on the FS it'd be a tough call between deflector, the peril power boost, and slaughterer

all have merits

[orchid nest]

man slaughterer is so good with purg. ignoring the ramp and just going straight in to full stacks

[wet jacinth]

Iirc don't crits go above full stacks.

[orchid nest]

I have no idea for soulblaze, I guess it could if the stack before the last one crit. I was talking about the slaughterer stacks being given from soulblaze kills though.

horde is all aflame -> you pull out the slaughterer fs and things randomly dying gives you slaughterer stacks without even having to swing it

[orchid nest]

force sword

[orchid venture]

They're talkin about this one

[mighty pike]

So blessings on one weapon also apply when triggered to the other weapon? Is that what we're saying

[orchid venture]

I... already posted it, but thanks

[orchid nest]

a lot of blessings apply in general to both if you proc them, yeah. in this case though it's the kills from anything you have going proccing slaughterer, works with more than just purg it's just the most convenient to how you normally use it

[wet jacinth]

Would be helpful to clarify it had to be on melee wep but I got it now

[wet jacinth]

When crucian roulette works but it isnt supposed to

[mighty pike]

including brainburst i presume?

[orchid venture]

It's like how bleed damage used to apply a bleed stack as long as you were holding the weapon that applied the bleed

[orchid nest]

yes it will boost bb too but it's hard to use it because of the short duration. only really viable to get the boost for it if you have dots chaining kills still or you are using kinetic barrage

[mighty pike]

All this would be a lot more exciting if it was possible to get on your weapons

[orchid nest]

it's.. a lot of things. like warp nexus working on melee, shred on melee working for staff crit. a ton of blessings really, it's a foundational issue with them

[orchid venture]

I hope they start rolling out the different versions of weapons that were in the datamine

[wet jacinth]

As far as I know. The devs know about it. Just havent gotten around to fixing it

[orchid venture]

But hopefully also a way to get them easier lol

[mighty pike]

anything interesting? or just the same things but =/- one thing or another

[orchid nest]

Yeah it will certainly be fixed. or mostly fixed. I could see kills from other things still proccing slaughterer for example and the power bonus just won't work on other things anymore

[wet jacinth]

I'd say otherwise since it can make specific builds op. But who knows what FatShork will do

[orchid venture]

Well, the one thing interesting in that list was the addition of a Stub Rifle, but it also showed i think 7 different force staves

[mighty pike]

hmmm. that's cool

Presumably its 6 months off

[orchid venture]

I'm just waiting for updates mostly, any new content

They said at one point that the goal was to release a new class once a quarter

[mighty pike]

I'm pretty disappointed with this years' big releases personally. I got this game gifted to me so I'm not very upset about wasted cash, but this being so underwhelming and Victoria 3 being just as unfinished means all my interests have flopped

[orchid nest]

I'm like a drug addict hoping for even the smallest of hotfixes so I can at least try to comb through psyker stuff still for the unlisted changes fatshark always does

[brittle crest]

what level or gear level should i go to Malice as a Psyker?

[mighty pike]

whenever you ready. Trust me, you can do it on anything. It's more skill-based than gear-based

[brittle crest]

ah

i guess i don't often go down on uprising

[orchid venture]

Yeah, you know you're ready when the previous difficulty gets too easy, imo

[wet jacinth]

https://tenor.com/view/update-kim-and-they-were-childhood-friends-gif-21400499

[brittle crest]

i've been nervous about going to malice and being "that guy" that costs a run

social anxiety

[mighty pike]

Anyone want to play a Malice game rn?

[wet jacinth]

Imean you could just play 2

Go to 3 once you've gotten better

[orchid venture]

But they were just talking about moving up in difficulty

[wet jacinth]

Hm

[brittle crest]

yea i'm unsure what these indicators are really

[orchid venture]

For weapons, take whatever is most comfortable

If you like force sword and void staff, go ahead

[wet belfry]

Malice isnt that bad

[wet jacinth]

It isn't really. But I understand not everyone considers it "easy"

[orchid venture]

It's definitely a step up in difficulty, but i believe in you, and i know you can handle it

[wet jacinth]

Tide games have a disgusting amount of players who will only play 4/5 difficulties saying 3 is a joke baby mode

[brittle crest]

haha

maybe that's why in non-peak hours i'm mostly alone in 2's

[wet jacinth]

Then again in vermintide. Cataclysm was DLC difficulty

[orchid venture]

Yeah, i didn't do cataclysm much in vt2 since i was comfortable in legend

[wet jacinth]

Whereas darktide 5th difficulty is on-par with Vt2 legend

[orchid venture]

I'll probably stay in Heresy difficulty until I'm done getting all the outfits on everyone, that's my goal

[wet jacinth]

I've just been doing Malice to grind creds and mats

Then do Heresy with the gear I've upgraded/obtained

If only Blessing reroll was here

https://tenor.com/view/yakuza-gif-18148683

[mighty pike]

you got your monster killer penance yet?

362 stub revolver. do i buy it

What does Crucian Roulette even mean on a weapon with a magazine? Empty chamber?

[violet yoke]

Shakey hands revolver is that next level psyker game

[mighty pike]

there's a low-intensity Throneside Heresy game going for the next hour. you should do it

[brittle crest]

i hit the lv 3 quickmatch to see what it looks like

[mighty pike]

oh no i confused level 3 and level 4 my bad

[mighty pike]

do not play it

[mighty pike]

its not every day you find a revolver with a whole 5% critical chance

[brittle crest]

ok lv 3 wasn't that bad haha

had a perfect team tho, 1 of each class and everyone seemed to know what they were doing

[violet yoke]

No ment have u tested one out supper funny high pierl. The revolver shakes

[paper niche]

i was told that each 10% of missing ammo meant 1 stack of extra crit, but I asked the guy how he knew this and got no response, so fuck if I know

[violet yoke]

Impossible to actually use one I know about the crit blessing that is crazy nice for all classes right now

[paper niche]

what confused me is if a revolver and a autogun both have the same number of stacks of added crit when empty

[summer prairie]

I think 10% is correct, at least roughly

[mighty pike]

Just did malleus Monstrous on a beast once again and again the fucking zealot stole it

[pale crescent]

Thoughts?

[sour bison]

Sword

[mighty pike]

I like this one personally

[long wharf]

make a premade to do penances

pug fuckery is just going to piss you off

[pale crescent]

I'll give it a run on 3 to see how it goes

[mighty pike]

3 it'll be absolutely fine. I use anything I want on malice and anything works

[wheat kraken]

Not bad. Underwhelming blessing but good stats

[pale crescent]

I might try to upgrade it if i like the dodgyness

[split oxide]

okay .. someone gave me an accatran.
What's a recommended melee for a gunker?

[long wharf]

to play veteran

[split oxide]

harsh

[long wharf]

unless you're just doing it for funsies and not seriously

in which case "whatever you want because it ultimately doesn't matter"

[split oxide]

funsies.
anf kinetic flayer's the only thing right?

[mighty pike]

And then exactly the same as last time we lost the game

remind me why anybody plays heresy

[wanton cove]

May be a good idea to just make a private lobby with some pals

[split oxide]

gunkers are not fun.

[lapis bay]

False

[long wharf]

not if you've ever played vet

all of the quality CoD gameplay, with none of the Darktide feats

[lapis bay]

Do I need to make 4 diff classes to 30 to get the achiev or can I do 4 gun pyskers instead?

[long wharf]

...

read the penance

[lapis bay]

Pfft I use guns I dont read

[long wharf]

well no kidding

[mighty pike]

cant*

[long wharf]

read the penance just the same

[lapis bay]

https://tenor.com/view/cant-read-gif-22252869

[magic burrow]

Even the vet bots troll me. I got pushed off a ledge into a horde by a bot shimmying up my ass.

[split oxide]

I don't spray/pray (Lasgun/Bolter). always considering burst fire to conserve ammo.
It feels wrong to spray hoping for the 10% chance of BB

[lapis bay]

Anecdotally but I find it procs pretty regularly, and often times in critical encounters. With high enough RPM, you'll proc it in every encounter

[near wyvern]

In case you didn't know Crucian Roulette stacks pretty neatly with Blazing Spirit. It's an interesting combination for a 'melee psyker' but unfortunately not as effective as a Purgatus staff.

Meat Grinder is on Damnation, the FS is underlevelled because we love RNG.

https://youtu.be/nS-tNaSfmH0

[long wharf]

you want crucian roulette on a pistol, anyways

the text of the blessing is inaccurate - you get the crit % increase every 10% ammo you're missing

let me see if I have one

hmm, thought I did, but apparently I don't have a gun on my psyker with crucian roulette

[lapis bay]

we must fix this

[long wharf]

I'm about to upgrade a urp pistol blurgh right now

[summer prairie]

the best psyker build is a gunker who only uses the gun for crits

[long wharf]

My cat can't even bear to watch this heresy

[lapis bay]

Ah yes the legendary Crit and Split build

[long wharf]

it's so stupid that we cant send gear between characters that both can use

[lapis bay]

Rolled a max exp buff on my 30-- def wish we can xfer gear/currency

[floral drum]

Does anyone know if it is worth using a health curious on my psyk and if so what is the max base stat a curious can have health percent wise

[noble mason]

keeping block efficiency but what should my 2nd perk be guys?

[lapis bay]

flak imo for FS

[lethal folio]

Flak for elite bp

[near wyvern]

Flak or maniac unless you can reach trash break points but with that first target probably will not hit any

[clear heath]

nooooo

[long wharf]

rip

[wet jacinth]

But now you can run'n'gun

Gamer

[long wharf]

yes, now you can use the primary attack while sprinting, wooo.

[wet jacinth]

slides everywhere anyways

[long wharf]

pretty much

[mild tartan]

Has psyker been buffed yet

[lapis bay]

Every gun in your inventory is a buff

[spice oar]

No

Come back in 3 months

[ebon jolt]

I’ve now have 3 380 revolvers. I’ve upgraded them all to purple and all my perks and blessings suck.

[ebon jolt]

21% is Max for health. I use 2 health and 1 wound. Personal preference. I’m sure someone will call me bad.

[long wharf]

sounds about right

[ebon jolt]

I also read that the max crit you can get from the blessing is 40%.

[long wharf]

I can check the blessing code in a minute

[ebon jolt]

One cool thing with the revolver is that you can shoot after only reloading once. So you could technically get the full crit bonus from crucian roulette for every bullet after the first 4.

If you can deal with reloading after every shot.

[long wharf]

yeah

and yeah, you get no bonus critical chance at full magazine

local missing_percentage = missing_in_clip / max_ammunition_clip
local check_percentage = missing_percentage / 0.9
local steps = math.floor(check_percentage * 10)

[lapis bay]

Sounds about right, I like health health and toughness

[floral drum]

so there is no point in upgrading a 20% one or since i have one which was green and i upgraded it once and now it gives 20% sniper resistance

[ebon jolt]

20% is still good. I usually buy 20-21% curios. 19% isn’t too bad either. Then I upgrade to blue or buy if blue first perk is decent.

[lapis bay]

21% is rare, I ran two 20%s until one dropped

[floral drum]

is sniper resist any good though

nah or

they barely happen but if they happen it might help if i don't dodge in time

[ebon jolt]

I have two 20% health curios I use. Every 17% toughness or 21% health has resulted in +Exp. FML.

[lapis bay]

Personally dont run it, I find it more reliable to duck corners/dodge slide but if you find they hit you a lot, it is noticeable

[floral drum]

they do hit me sometimes but i can also dodge

though i might get something way worse so i might just upgrade some more and then reroll it

[ebon jolt]

I think it’s pretty good. I think gunner might be a bit better but sniper and bomber are probably my next choices. I really like block efficiency and CDR as my top choices.

[floral drum]

well my next upgrade is kinda bad

15% chance for a curio on loot drops so idk if i should even upgrade on

i ended with 15% damage resist against hounds 20 against sniper and 15% for curio drop seems kinda bad ngl

[lapis bay]

I tried for about 2 hours last night spamming for 20% block on FS, I feel your pain. Time to clickspam?

[floral drum]

only one i could try for is a 19% one with 15% mutant res but i rather just get better ones from shop ig

[near wyvern]

But can the code be trusted? We know there are some stuff that is inconsistent with the live game.

Percentages and all are pretty cumbersome to test tho

[floral drum]

Also is there a best map to do the penance with brain bursting 5 special/elite

I was able to burst 3

[lapis bay]

Do a high intensity mission with bots (if you can)— grabbing the perk and then dying let’s you keep it iirc. Just gotta hang back and pop the elites

[near wyvern]

Your best bet is to have a full pre made and herecy or damnation high intensity. I got mine on a pack of 5 ragers, our veteran threw a nade to soften them up and the rest of the team just tanked and dodged until I killed them. It's easiest to get when you just play with a pre made and then look for opportunities to set it up.

[lapis bay]

Yeah that’s better imo if you can find a premade and tell them

[abstract cedar]

got this... on my psyker 😬

[abstract cedar]

Commsplex 154/2f

[viral solstice]

damn she really do be sufferin

[near wyvern]

Any tips how to find that add on, Reddit article seems to have deleted links

NVM finally found it

[mighty pike]

This is good I use this all the time

380 AND brutal momentum

[supple skiff]

absolute state of the game folks using a browser add on to check the market lol

[frail berry]

Any good for psyker or wasting credits?

[abstract cedar]

not a fan of chainsword in general let alone for psyker, but those are great rolls

[supple skiff]

seems decent if you like the item type

[mighty pike]

Credits aren't that hard to collect. May as well get it in case it's useful in future. Not everyday you get a 380

[supple skiff]

^

[frigid burrow]

For the lightning taser staff if I pan the crosshair while its firing does it tase more guys or are the targets fixed as soon as it releases

[twin pond]

Fixed

[frigid burrow]

Does it have any affect on monsters like plague ogryn or the big slug fellow

[twin pond]

No

[frigid burrow]

I don't really know what to do when they come in I just start BB spamming

[mighty pike]

That's my go-to normally too

[frigid burrow]

Got it ty

Now they just need to increase lightning sfx volume by 200% and we're gucci

[mighty pike]

You don't like wet fizzle?

[wanton cove]

Same. Pop quick brain burst ability and pew pew then reset lol

[mighty pike]

I would like perhaps a noticeable little buff. Just so that, you know, I feel useful outside of being the only person with access to a staff

[oblique walrus]

Question, the penance "kill an monstrosity by doing 90% of its health with brain burst" do you need the final hit or no?

[mighty pike]

Yes

• someone who's done it twice and had a zealot steal it both times

And it must be on Heresy or above

[oblique walrus]

That penance must be impossible

[mighty pike]

It's totally doable if your team doesn't fuck you over intentionally at the last second

[pale basalt]

thoughts?;

[violet thorn]

519

https://tenor.com/view/sheesh-sheesh-meme-gif-23678188

[pale basalt]

lol, the other perk was carapace so I kept the unarmored

seems to be pretty nasty when both blessings are active

Basically quisinart for hordes so I can gunpsyke without too much headache if I feel like it. Between that and my MGIV my finger is going to fall off.

[long wharf]

Yes, because the Lua is exported from the game at runtime

[fluid sun]

Anyone know if bloodthirsty works on the Force Sword? Also if the blessing applies guaranteed crit to multiple hits or just the next hit?

[wet jacinth]

How much copium have y'all had today?

Need to steal some

[lethal plover]

none because I'm not playing till new content drops

[pale basalt]

It will be okay just don't give those twats any more money until they address their shitty progression and insulting design elements.

steam reviews at 49% or something for last 30 (days) last I checked

I'm just banking loot and playing with buds

[lethal plover]

I'm actually used to gacha games such as Arknights so I'm not bothered by minor cosmetics or monetization
but what Arknights has is actual content. lots of content. every 2 weeks is new event, enemies, maps etc.

[wet jacinth]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-40k-warhammer-darktide-gif-26929721

[wet jacinth]

https://tenor.com/view/mcjuggernuggets-chillout-gif-13306028

People whale thousands into those gacha games

[pale basalt]

https://tenor.com/view/reactions-assassin-blow-it-up-gif-3429842

[teal kite]

DSP and WWE champions