psyker-class

[steel egret]

Just Agripaa I and Damnation

[fluid knot]

Pretty much yeah 😂 Dont use anything else because nothin else competes, its really actually quite egregious how bad most of the guns are on psyker

[mighty pike]

I just want a good DMR

[drowsy fog]

purgatus my beloved

[mighty pike]

Give me something that rewards good accuracy that's not a 5+round revolver

[steel egret]

I have most of guns at 370-380.

[fluid knot]

It'd be nice, but doubt we'd see an actual DMR, probably nothin with a magnification past 2.5x

[mighty pike]

I personally prefer iron sights so the desire for optics is a non-issue for me

[fluid knot]

Nice! Sorted for when more get inevitably buffed

[fluid knot]

Well there is the single shot headhunter rifle, but again, needs more buff to be relevant

[mighty pike]

Why do your kantrael lasguns look like that? Is it a skin?

[steel egret]

Yes

Imperial edtion

[fluid knot]

Its a really nice skin too

[steel egret]

I've now moved to putting skin on weapons I have that are 380 and are stored for 380 and not a blessing.

[steel egret]

Thats from the Iron Guard thought.

[mighty pike]

Excited for this game to be good so I can feel buying anything for it is justified

[fluid knot]

It is? I noticed its the one all the NPC guardsman in the Mourningstar have

[drowsy fog]

we use what we want

[inland sand]

best perks for VS staff?

[steel egret]

on veteran I think they might have one with bit similiar design on some gun, with like eagle head poking up.

[drowsy fog]

for void crit chance works with your ideal blessings

[summer prairie]

maybe elite damage and flak

[inland sand]

ty, p sure I don't have these ideal blessings atm (sigh) but one day

[drowsy fog]

I think flak might be the other one that void folks talk about, but I'm not void folks

[summer prairie]

+infested can be ok as you aren't going to be headshotting everything within the horde

[mighty pike]

Wow the Hellbore lasgun feels... Bad

[fallow meadow]

Fatshark did tweak hellbore, but it still don't feel right to shoot

[mighty pike]

It's horrible

This is the most awful gun to use I think in any game I've played

[fallow meadow]

Long swap time and hard to aim ADS is what kill it for me.

[mighty pike]

And I have to charge it before it's worth anything. No flickshots for this one

I think the actual gunplay mechanics in this game is good, but the guns themselves aren't that interesting

Blurgh once in a while I try playing veteran and Im instantly reminded why I didn't

[orchid venture]

yeah im... leveling them last lol

[mighty pike]

Lucky you

[tired estuary]

got sprint efficiency now its time to roll run n gun blessing

[grizzled iris]

Is... is this fate?

[idle bay]

Congrats 🙂

[cyan notch]

yes its fake

quick discard it

[idle bay]

Though after a kept playing with Surge and Purgatus staff - Void is no longer fun for me.

[orchid venture]

man, that zealot was going through it... feel bad for em

cursing the name of Fatshark for every misfortune that happened

to be fair to em, that was a VERY rough mission, ogryn everywhere, gunners in the worst places, and I was the only backliner to take care of specials

BB is... not the best tool for that

[mighty pike]

Bb is like having an elephant gun that you have to set up

[random wolf]

Depends on which variant.

The Mk2 is fine if you wanna do what you did.

[young knoll]

how important is quell speed? recently levelled psyker and liked the purgatus staff. this looks decent from sir melk.

[random wolf]

Not too important. Things you can work around, like reload speed or quell or w/e can be managed.

[fringe garden]

Kinda depends. Do you use a force sword? If not the auto quell can do most of your quelling for you

[random wolf]

But hard stats like damage are different.

[young knoll]

i use force sword yeah

[random wolf]

I mean, play it and find out.

[fringe garden]

Meh, well, purge staff doesn't generate too much peril

[random wolf]

Yeah it's not like the Purgatus where you're endlessly streaming it during fights.

[young knoll]

one thing i noticed while levelling: does psyker have an innate stamina boost with staves? i had no stamina boost, but with staff out i had more bars than with force sword

[fringe garden]

It just has more stamina than force sword

[random wolf]

All weapons have a basic stamina modifier on top of the class' own.

But yeah what Sig said.

[young knoll]

ah

[frigid marten]

each weapon have a stamina bonus even ranged one

all weapon have all the stat just not boosted by bars

[fringe garden]

Man, once I found a really good antax I never looked back at Force Sword

It is just a situational gimmick, imo

[cyan notch]

if you think fs is only used for deflector then yea i can see why you think its a situational gimmick

[random wolf]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2892198053&

One special from FS knocks the shield off A bulwark from the front.

[fringe garden]

Anything else it can do is easily outshined by a good axe

[random wolf]

Nope.

It's got its place.

[young knoll]

not sure how it is on damnation, but force sword felt really clean on malice at slicing heads and quickly dispatching elites with the special. the special felt more powerful that the eviscerator

[cyan notch]

i mean hey sure if thats what you think have fun with using axes

[random wolf]

Eviscerator wins with ease of use. But then again that's a different class' unique weapon lol.

[fringe garden]

Maybe it's just that I have a nearly perfect antax with+65% power from it's perks.

[tired estuary]

antax is also maybe slightly overtuned compared to most weapons

[fringe garden]

Kinda skews my point of view

[mighty pike]

Tactical axes are very good weapons. It's personal preference as to it versus force sword etc

[violet thorn]

Antax is which axe?

[fringe garden]

Cleave ace

Axe

[tired estuary]

mk5 combat axe

[random wolf]

Combat Mk V axe

[tired estuary]

the one with god push attack and p good everything

[mighty pike]

Tactical? The small one

[random wolf]

We just said Combat Axe lol

[mighty pike]

I resign my opinion then

[random wolf]

Tactical is fine too, don't get me wrong.

[tired estuary]

all taxes are good tbh, antax is just egregious

[fringe garden]

Mine has headtaker and the heavy attack charge perk that adds up to my heavies having 65% more power and my push attacks always having 20% more

[random wolf]

Especially with Brutal Momentum

[fringe garden]

It just bonks things

[random wolf]

But with how fast it hits and its crit chance I'd rather use it on Zealot.

[mighty pike]

Extra power = +damage or damage +stagger?

[random wolf]

To make the most out of it.

[summer prairie]

why push attacks always have 20% more with those blessings?

[fringe garden]

Power is everything

[random wolf]

Usually both

[fringe garden]

Damage, cleave and impact

[cyan notch]

limbsplitter probs

[random wolf]

Power is the base that everything scales off from

[summer prairie]

he said he has headtaker + the charge one

[fringe garden]

I might be wrong on the name, the 20% on first attack and -20 on subsequents

Push attack rotation makes every push attack your first attack

[tired estuary]

that's limbsplitter and yeah push attack breaks chain

[fringe garden]

Yeah sorry for the confusion

[mighty pike]

If I wanted to look like a dumbdumb when I use my weapon

[fringe garden]

It's a really strong combo

Overhead heavies hitting for like 1500 lol

[mighty pike]

One day soon we'll see a "Deflector is a crutch blessing" post mark my words

[cyan notch]

i mean people have already said that

[vagrant spear]

it is, kinda. Never got one, finished all damns with a combat axe

[fringe garden]

I'm just not sure it's worth losing out on the superior damage of other melees and the auto quell

[heady perch]

can we finally just have the stupid penance itself tell us the missions missing? im pretty sure ive done every single one at least once and it STILL hasnt gone up

[fringe garden]

I find myself using low warp resist weapons, quickly building peril with some surge staff stuns, then bonking with axe while auto quell restored toughness.

[orchid nest]

It just depends on your staff. And getting lucky with the lack of crafting. Slaughterer FS doesn't lack damage.

[fringe garden]

It makes for a fantastic gameplay loop

[orchid nest]

Yeah I mean it works great for surge. But that isn't your gameplay loop on a purg for example usually, where FS can be good.

[cyan notch]

sure axe is great with surge for horde clear

but sometimes u dont need a weapon for horde clear since your staff can do that and fs has a lot of utility

[fringe garden]

Not just horde, axe destroys tough stuff

[young knoll]

i tried the antaxe i found in the shop just now, damn it hits heavey. staggers a rager with one hit.

[fringe garden]

That's part of why antax is probably overtuned

Good horde and I can stun then overhead smack anything to death in just a moment.. while autoquelling some toughness regen

[young knoll]

might try to get one for my zealot

[orchid nest]

On purg your loop for toughness is instead roasting everything to keep warp charges rolling to keep your toughness rolling, and you can just FS special something that manages to filter through

[fringe garden]

Yeah I've used the same setup some. Just never had the same success. But again, mostly due to RNG gods

My antax and surge staff are both good. My purg and FS are mediocre.

[orchid nest]

That is the main problem really, the rng. Slaughterer makes FS great damage. Getting it with whatever else you want at a high tier.. not so easy right now

[fringe garden]

Yeah

It's pretty frustrating

[warped perch]

I for one enjoy the rng and hope they don’t change it

[fringe garden]

Go away, satan

[warped perch]

I’m jk 😁

[fringe garden]

Lol

[warped perch]

I actually felt danger writing that

[orchid nest]

Like if we are talking pure offense too and you're willing to do away with the utility a t4/t4 slaughterer and bloodthirsty FS will blow anything else out of the water melee damage wise for a psyker but good luck even finding a single bloodthirsty sword to begin with much less finding it with slaughterer that is also high tier.

[cyan notch]

heavy linesman lol

reminds me of prenerf axe and falchion it had heavy linesman on its push attack too then fs nerfed it

[warped perch]

They nerfed axe?

[fringe garden]

On v2

[mighty pike]

I have been actually enjoying the knife on psyker

You know what I wish some of our feats did something regarding our melee.

[orchid nest]

the combat blade push attack is really good on psyker for sure. we can benefit from it single target wise the same way we benefit from using antax for cleaving. I use it every now and then for fun.

[cyan notch]

kinda slow to kill mutants when i used it

[orchid nest]

that is the one major downside yeah. it can kill them fast but only if you get headshots or crit

[mighty pike]

Nice of mutants to have a head that's in the middle of their body

Would like them to stop phasing through their own teammates though

[summer prairie]

it's 1300+ damage per headshot or crit, not slow considering how fast the push attack is

crit headshot is 1800+

but I use it with surge that gives free headshots

Oops was looking at the wrong numbers, more like 700 and 1500

[orchid venture]

I feel better about voidstrike thinking about it like, a thin, extremely long purge staff, and less of a trauma replacement

[frigid marten]

the real problem is they nerf the passive quell

the big disadvantage of force sword is the quell.

[cyan notch]

sure if you can hit headshots easily but like after dodging when they smash into a wall or something bodyshots do pathetic damage

also wonky vs dogs cuz the push part of the push attack sometimes pushes dogs out of the attack range

[mighty pike]

dogs have too much health

[cyan notch]

other than those 2 enemies knife is great though

[warped perch]

Is the push attack for that the v-punch animation

[floral drum]

does anyone know what the best map for going out with a bang is?

[mighty pike]

Apaprently Comms-plex and throneside if i remember

ther are a couple of semi-guaranteed spawn part in some of the maps that make it much more reliable

[floral drum]

ok thanks i'll try to get it there then

[mighty pike]

try the looking-for-game channels

[orchid nest]

It's an overhead that is basically a heavy attack, uses its damage profile

[orchid venture]

wait hold the damn phone

I think i got Pick n Mix on accident in that last mission

fuck yeah lol

[summer prairie]

that's how you are supposed to get it anyway

[mighty pike]

https://tenor.com/view/teletubbies-tinky-winky-king-crown-putting-on-crown-gif-25925940

[orchid venture]

it was just an unfortunate spawn of like, 6 gunners, a crusher, and an unknown number of bulwarks next to an entire army of shooters

[mighty pike]

what difficulty was this?

[orchid venture]

heresy

it was a hunting grounds mission too

im not sure whats up, but I'm getting some Intense heresy missions today

one I managed to beat was just like, constant, neverending spawns

I dont even recall if it was high intensity or not, but it sure felt like it

[mighty pike]

Hesery is a nightmare for real

[orchid venture]

so now all I have to do is... kill a monstrosity by myself p much

[fresh reef]

Opinions on Quicken?

[mighty pike]

kentucky fried

[sharp jackal]

worst of all 3 imo

[orchid venture]

yeah, I'd rather take the one that gives you cooldown when you kill elites

jesus... another failed mission

plague ogryn crashed through the wall, immediately followed by FAR too many ranged guys

i just need one lucky spawn and one lucky shield ogryn...

man what the fuck

I just want to be done with this last penance so I can stop doing heresy for awhile, this is getting out of fucking hand

2 LITERAL back to back beasts of nurgle

[teal kite]

well

[wet belfry]

I hope for your sake thats on malice

[teal kite]

it is

[mighty pike]

Good luck Nadia

[muted lantern]

i'm testing out the soulblaze perks in the psychanium and they seem really bad

a single stack of 4 doesn't really do anything, you need to hit an enemy with two or three times the amount in order for them to die

and releasing 4 stacks with the F wasn't enough to kill poxwalkers on heresy

am I better off with something like kinetic barrage?

[sharp jackal]

on 6 stacks it is good

[sharp jackal]

what is the last left?

boss?

[muted lantern]

if i go for 6 stacks then i lose kinetic overload so you don't have that extra source of soulblaze to get your warp charges up

[sharp jackal]

you get them back via a burn tho

[muted lantern]

i feel like all of those feats seem vastly undertuned

[sharp jackal]

in like seconds

[sharp jackal]

true

[muted lantern]

i see, so the idea is to dump 6 warp charges with your F onto a horde, and then get the stacks back that way

[sharp jackal]

yeah, and purgatus generates soulblaze too

[muted lantern]

i guess if you arent using purgatus staff that might be useful

[tender terrace]

garbo blessing?

[sharp jackal]

rooms with shooters are also good target as it goes thru cover

[muted lantern]

interesting, good to know

keeping up 6 stacks feels like a massive chore so i might end up not going for soulblaze build after all

it's a shame because looking at the stats as I was levelling up i was really hyped to try it

i've just hit 30 with my psyker

[sharp jackal]

6 stacks are easy to keep up

with purgatus at least

[muted lantern]

counting on the 4% from communion?

[sharp jackal]

yeah

the soulblaze shines on t5 tho

its kinda meh on lover diff

[muted lantern]

is it a % based damage?

[sharp jackal]

no, sadly

its goes x2 (kinda) per stack

[muted lantern]

what makes it so good on damnation?

[sharp jackal]

shit ton of mobs to burn and get stack`s back

[muted lantern]

okay that makes sense

[sharp jackal]

i run this personaly with

[muted lantern]

that's what my feats look like except i don't use quietude

[muted lantern]

oh hey another MkV dueling chad, my favorite psyker weapon

[sharp jackal]

you can run essence harvest if you want, it is not that bad

[long wharf]

I'm to the point where I think it's very rude to try to do penances in a pug

[muted lantern]

it seemed to me like absorption is the best bang for your buck

especially with purgatus

[long wharf]

if you can't do the penance via normal gameplay, go find a premade to do it

[sharp jackal]

its kind bad when shit hits the fan.

and bb does not count as warp attack

[mental vortex]

worth buying?

[cyan notch]

some people dont have discord etcetcetc i dont blame the player i blame fatshark

[orchid nest]

essence is fantastic with purg, great synergy with its build

[long wharf]

doesn't change the fact that the polite approach is better

asking if the rest of the team is okay with you getting fucky wucky to chase a penance

[orchid venture]

yeah, kill a boss by myself

[teal kite]

if someone asks for aid im ok

[long wharf]

the problem with that is the rate at which you gain toughness doesn't change

[cyan notch]

sure i dont disagree

[teal kite]

overall tho they are almost never benefit the team

[long wharf]

gaining a warp charge just means more toughness gain at 30% over 5 s

that's not going to save you in melee combat

[teal kite]

If people are nice about trying to get grims or a penance im typically okay. Just not on the harder modes tho, I struggle enough without someone being like "I need both grims" in T4. Im like ://

[long wharf]

oh yeah, if I'm playing heresy+ and someone picks up a grim

[orchid nest]

purg with essence is easily the best feeling toughness regen. it's so passive and constantly ticking. it does fine supporting you in melee, although the times you have to melee with purg should be very small, you should just be good at dodging, positioning, and staggering them with purg

[long wharf]

they better hope they never go down, because I'm not picking them up

[teal kite]

Its like its hard enough fighting 300 gunners let alone with debuffed HP

[orchid venture]

one time a zealot asked if we could speedrun in less than 20 minutes for em, and I just automatically went into Fast Mode

[long wharf]

yep, I play heresy+ when I need mats, which means I want completions

and I hate feeling like I've wasted my time

[orchid venture]

sadly, they flew past the kill plane on the final mission, and ended up alive at the bottom of the map

[long wharf]

which is how I usually feel if a mission fails,

and I definitely feel when a mission fails because of other players

[cyan notch]

well its not a complete waste you still get some mats

[vague grotto]

does focused channeling affect my charge up with right click or no?

[long wharf]

yes

[vague grotto]

also, dont mind the stamina

work in progress

[muted lantern]

i really enjoy purgatus and surge, but the other two staves feel quite underwhelming, the ground explosion one was similar to siennas staff from VT but doesn't feel as good

i really want to like the 'charged bolt' staff, but it feels quite meh

did i just get bad rolls or are they not very good compared to purgatus and surge in the first place?

[vague grotto]

i love voidstrike

really good at horde clear since it pierces

some people swear by trauma but i dont like it

just use whatever you like

[summer prairie]

still worse horde clear than purg and questionable whether it's worth using against elites over BB

[orchid nest]

the other thing though is that you'll be using bb at ranged more with purg and absorption makes you too fragile at ranged in damnation. which is why essence is usually the default for the build. quietitude works fine as usual for anything though.

[summer prairie]

fun to use though

[orchid venture]

I'd love to have a staff that is more about precision
sniper staff

[muted lantern]

does quietude work on passive quell? i gave it a try once but it didn't feel as good as either of the other two options

[orchid nest]

yeah it does

[orchid venture]

bonus points if it lets me blast shit with a bolt of lightning

[muted lantern]

sienna beam staff is really missing, although i'd also love some kind of rapid fire staff as well

[orchid venture]

beam staff, or bolt staff, i can do with either

[muted lantern]

bolt staff was so good, it could charge up shots for big damage on a single target, or spam lighter bolts against hordes

[cyan notch]

yea i dont really like warp absorption for anything like sure woohoo invincible in a horde when the threats are trivial but when u need toughness against ranged u just gotta stay in coherency and hope for the best

[muted lantern]

i'd be fine if the current staves had some kind of more interesting primary fire

[orchid venture]

we'll get something eventually, like a Force Greatsword would be nice

[orchid nest]

yeah you have to make several bad mistakes in a row anyways for purg to not keep you topped off very fast with essence. it's too versatile for it imo to use anything else.

[orchid venture]

sienna deserves a greatsword too

[cyan notch]

i use queititude for everything cuz im lazy to keep changing

[orchid nest]

quietitude is my go to for non purg. the main thing is the normal loop of swap to melee to quell for purg means you are abandoning your job of using purg. its better to quell for a small amount and keep min charge purgs going to stagger than taking out your melee with it

I like to think of it as being similar to surge - stopping to do either one at an inopportune time for your team mate is more dangerous than never having done it in the first place, because they are being more offensive than they would otherwise be thanks to it

[cyan notch]

yea i dont do the swap to melee when im at 100% thing at all the quell speed is so fast you can just quell with a dodge slide and boom youre back

[orchid nest]

I can see it working well still for sure

there is some different situations where it can be better just depending on circumstance

but yeah it still works in ranged battles which is the important part

[cyan notch]

yea if youre stunlocking a bunch of ragers itll be more dangerous to stop as opposed to a bunch of shooters where u can just slide in and melee all of em with your teammates with little threat

[orchid nest]

yeah absolutely

even just in a regular horde tbh. although this is mostly down to your team mates fault, but people like to go crazy chopping everything that is being staggered and then suddenly the purg stream stops and they are in the middle of a bunch of non staggered poxwalkers

always that one vet power swording the wave you already had locked down instead of shooting the gunners lighting you up in the distance

[supple skiff]

something about hordes makes folks forget their roles

don't need 3 people trying to one up eachother for horde kills while we have a pack of shotgunners rolling up

[near wyvern]

For purge you can double LMB into quell and repeat, this will keep everything staggered while allowing you to quell faster than you gain peril

Technically it is sufficient to single LMB but it's so easy to animation cancel the LMB by accident before you get to the stagger part that double makes it 100% reliable.

[orchid nest]

I think some vets that haven't played other classes are just so used to the insane toughness they get back from power sword cleaves that they don't understand how vulnerable everyone else is to the gunfire coming in. They think "just a few more chops and i'll get to it afterwards"

[magic burrow]

arguably Id say giving veterans the powersword was a bad call, though I imagine they do need a decent melee weapon in case ammo becomes an issue

[supple skiff]

I only play psyker and vet. I straight up just focus anything that gets highlighted in counterfire and our runs are buttery smooth as a result

powersword is a class nerfing item, makes em not want to do their jobs and wipes happen as a result

jokes aside they need to take another pass at that thing with the nerf bat

[near wyvern]

Yeah it's funny when I purge a corridor and two veterans start to power sword the enemies in the flames

[orchid nest]

Yeah the last "nerf" just made it to where they now had to pay attention to the blessings on it.. a little.

[near wyvern]

Instead of shooting at the ranged in the back

[cyan notch]

then u get hit by random dudes behind you

[supple skiff]

or decide to shoot the gunner you have a bb channel on and not the other 3 directly around it

[near wyvern]

Or this

[orchid nest]

every damn time, dodging around like a maniac to reposition your purg to include random guys behind you because everyone is running into the purg flames trying to get their kills

[near wyvern]

TBF of you have a Lasgun vet, they should be the one handling gunners unless they are suppressed

[magic burrow]

lately Ive taken a liking to hanging back a bit and just BBing random rabble sneaking up behind people so they dont get hit. They never know Ive got their backs.

if youre in a run where youre taking suprisingly little damage from random ninja poxwalkers, make sure to look back and give a thumbs up to the janitor cleaning up all the junk mobs

[cyan notch]

ive grown accustomed to randomly spraying 360 around me bc of this

[orchid nest]

haha yeah

[mighty pike]

Any team game I've ever played hinges on the one guy doing rear security

[magic burrow]

psykers are just too good at making mobs visible for other people

[full kite]

hmm

[orchid nest]

for real, using purg, bb, and being good at tagging. master highlighter.

[full kite]

should I be concerened with the level 27 psyker with +3 wounds

[near wyvern]

AB also

[mighty pike]

I'd play this game with a pair of binoculars if I could

[near wyvern]

Veterans after Psyker AB

[mighty pike]

AB?

[near wyvern]

Ascendent Blaze

Lvl 30 - 2

[orchid nest]

thats the real challenge if you decide to take warp battery so it meets all gunner breakpoints, actually having your team let it be useful

[near wyvern]

AB with Warp Battery is just not worth it, takes way too long to get the 6 stacks and it's a pain in the butt to try keep them up between encounters if you are not speed running

[magic burrow]

I only take +% health curios. I once made the mistake of taking a +wound curio on a mission so I had 3 wounds, and then some absolute clown picked up a grimoire so that wound instantly got filled up with corruption, and when I went down I had two corrupted wounds and was left with ~33% health instead of the 50% I would otherwise have had

[near wyvern]

I have 2 health 1 wound but I do have around 15 to 20% grimoire resistance

[orchid nest]

I think it can be worth it since you will bb ranged a lot anyways but I know it's not the standard choice. It does theoretically make you much more useful against ranged though which is cool for someone using a flamethrower. but again, that is assuming people just don't shoot the now highlighted things

would be a lot cooler if 6 was the default and they just changed warp battery

[near wyvern]

I just don't want to be dead the moment my team forgets how to remove a dog from me

Also I have been 100 to 0 instantly when a mutant grabbed me and 3 Ragers slapped me while the mutie was holding me

Because of shit like that I like to run the extra wound

[magic burrow]

warp battery: increases warp charge duration by 15 seconds (to 40 seconds)

[near wyvern]

That plus 6 stacks could help it to be a bit more viable

I mean max at 6

[magic burrow]

or something like when you go down, you create a fiery explosion scaling with the amount of warp charges you currently have

[mighty pike]

Psyker unchained again

[near wyvern]

Nah, downed mechanics are not good. You are gimping the team when you go down. The incentive should always be to stay alive and keep the team alive

[zinc phoenix]

Counterpoint: big boom fun

[magic burrow]

does the ascending blaze feat also work on soulblaze stacks from other sources other than the ult, meaning, does having ascending blaze let you rack up warp charges from just using the purgatus staff? I assume it would, but that could also just be from the 4% coherency feat so I dunno

[mortal pendant]

yes

[orchid nest]

I agree although I think the idea can still have merit just in a different way. Like you create a powerful perils explosion on overcharge with max that doesn't down you but consumes all charges

[near wyvern]

Yes. You also get them from other Purgatus users and AB users.

[summer prairie]

it only checks whether it has soulblaze and you do the kill

[near wyvern]

That's not correct

[summer prairie]

pretty sure it's incorrect that you get stacks if other purg users kill

[near wyvern]

It only checks if the killing blow was dealt by soulblaze

[summer prairie]

No

[near wyvern]

No matter the source

[summer prairie]

that's definitely wrong

Go LMB a target and then kill it with your melee

[near wyvern]

I did for over 30 times, no procs

[summer prairie]

there was a bunch of testing regarding that and I also looked at the code

[magic burrow]

it doesnt neccesarily need to die because of the soulblaze.

[summer prairie]

we had like 5 people testing that and posting videos

[frigid marten]

or they just hate the other teamates that walk in their line of fire and take ammo.

[sharp jackal]

if you kill soulblazed target you get the stack, you just need to be a source of kill. Its datamined

there is a post on steam guides

[near wyvern]

Then I must be really unlucky, guess I'll have to do a long session

[ebon jolt]

Do slides have diminishing returns like dodges?

[magic burrow]

there are few things more satisfying than blasting a horde with a 6 stack ascending blaze

[near wyvern]

But the interesting part here is that I get stacks even when I don't do kills but let another Purgatus user kill

[summer prairie]

are you sure those aren't just your 4% procs

[sharp jackal]

true, its rolls when multiple psykers

[orchid nest]

yeah maybe, that certainly isn't me though. I'm finding ammo for them I can't even take. i'm also definitely standing behind the tanky vet so they can get shot instead of me.

[near wyvern]

Yes I use Psykinetic's Aura

[ebon jolt]

What do you think of a new difficultly modifier where there are 4x barrels on the map?

[mighty pike]

So any target that dies while it has soulblaze afflicted= 10% chance of a warp charge with those perks(?)

[ebon jolt]

😂

[near wyvern]

That would be even worse than the dogs

[valid lake]

☠️ on that map with the incubation pods

[cyan notch]

no lol spam that shit the whole map

[summer prairie]

Looking at the code AB sems to use On Kill function, which would make it your kills only (but any source of soulblaze), but could be wrong

[near wyvern]

With AB, yes.

With AB and Psykinetic's Aura, there is:

• 13.6% chance to get at least 1 warp charge
• 0.4% chance to get 2 warp charges

Assuming you can proc the warp charge gains individually from both. It's extremely hard to test, probably true, but even then the chance is miniscule as you can see.

[valid lake]

whats the trick to getting warp battery done ?

[cyan notch]

stare at your stacks for 5 mins

[near wyvern]

On Kill only tells you that something happens when someone dies

It doesn't tell anything about what happens unless you can see inside of it

[summer prairie]

What?

I looked at the other function too

[near wyvern]

Herecy or damnation, preferably herecy high intensity

@valid lake

Run psychic communion, purge staff, kinetic flayer and AB but never use ult. BB if you are about to drop stacks and always BB the trash between encounters.

[violet thorn]

The Purgats flame counts for Abundant Blaze right?

like FT didnt pull a retard moment and have the two as different despite there being no real difference?

[near wyvern]

Another but more boring way is to run 121133 with anything you want and just BB everything until you get it.

If you absolutely need a stack, use RMB first to charge it up and then execute only once fully charged but make sure you begin with less than 40 peril

[near wyvern]

Yes

[maiden wolf]

I dunno about Abundant blaze, but it works for ascendant blaze

[violet thorn]

yea damn autocorrect

[maiden wolf]

I always disable autocorrect on my devices. I still make typos, but at least they're MY typos

[near wyvern]

It's more like auto assume than auto correct

@summer prairie where can one view the code?

GitHub?

[summer prairie]

aussiemon darktide github

[full kite]

wish all of these ogryn/veterans/zealot mains would get out of the psyker channel. They screw up their own channels and now that their channels are ruined piles of trash they come here to trash up psyker channel too

[south zephyr]

stam to flak?

[mighty pike]

https://tenor.com/view/shaq-hot-wings-funny-hot-ones-amazed-gif-13764382

[ebon jolt]

Got excited because I was gifted a 455 purple from the emperor only to find out most of the rating was coming from a tier 4 speedload -_-

[neat summit]

What blessings are we looking for on purgatus staff?

[ebon jolt]

Warp Nexus.

[hallow pivot]

working on my 3rd 30 any leveling tips for psyker?

[full kite]

it is hell

early psyker is really hard

[neat summit]

Early Psyker has sucked up until voidstrike

[mighty pike]

its disillusioning

[orchid nest]

my leveling tip for psyker is playing with a group as a vet and leaving and rejoining at the end with your psyker

[full kite]

esp if you played zealot or ogryn before

cause psyker is kinda weak in melee

[hallow pivot]

zealot yes

[neat summit]

At about level 15 it picks up and becomes fun.

[full kite]

I'm so used to running up to things but on psyker I had to be backline with a buddy to help protect me

[neat summit]

Purgatus staff I’ve loved so far. Best way I’ve played Psyker up until now.

[orchid nest]

half joking about leaving at the end but it is a good way to level alts with heresy/damnation xp if you have a group of friends to play with

[near wyvern]

Double that level count and then we talking

[hallow pivot]

what are the meta weapons?

i assume its mostly reliant on the shock staff?

[cloud heron]

Shock and purge are probably the most common. Some weirdos like void too.

[full kite]

I think it's actually purg/voidstrike but shock is very good with good teammates to protect you and kill the things you stun

lightning problem is that you're really reliant on teammates

[hallow pivot]

at level 5 and after maxing out vet and zealot it is like a completely new game

waay different play style lol

[cloud heron]

I feel like the thing random teammates are the worst at is covering other teammates, which is what shock is best at. I win way more with shock than anything else

[near wyvern]

Purge and Surge work all the way wile Void is fun but falls of a bit at damnation

Void works at damnation but cannot hold a horde alone like a purge.

[full kite]

idk I get overwhelmed by poxwalkers still if I'm alone

while shock trivializes elites and specials it's kinda funny

switching from FS to dueling sword has helped

[near wyvern]

Surge is very team mate dependant as you don't have proper DPS but massive CC

[full kite]

ik combat axe is much better but dueling sword is so fun

[orchid nest]

I have more fun with purg but quickplaying with surge has the benefit of rarely having role overlap at least. if I switch to surge I'm pretty confident I can just roll with whatever comp they throw at me because there is almost never a second surge user

[full kite]

and on the offchance there's a second surge, game really does become ez mode

[cloud heron]

kinetic flayer with ascendant blaze helps a lot with this.

[mighty pike]

my favourite part of playing psyker is when i get mobbed by a horde. maybe im playing it wrong

[full kite]

hmm noted I've been trying that too but it's not as effective as I want it to be

or maybe I just dont notice things dying

[cloud heron]

Usually when I try to pug with purge there's a zealot tripping over themselves to out-flame me

[mighty pike]

when something dies from soulblaze there's no hitmarkers or anything so literally you can't tell through the unsual indicators

[cloud heron]

if you ult and get your 4 stacks back you can assume you killed around 40 guys

[light dagger]

flame staff with ascendent blaze is goated

[neat summit]

I’ve found I like void in pubs because of the range but I like purg with friends or people that are competent.

[south zephyr]

best blessing for purge and surge?

[neat summit]

I was just told purg you want warp nexus

[cloud heron]

warp battery?

or no, blessing. never mind

[light dagger]

for purge staff you want warp flurry and focused channeling

surge you'll want warp flurry and warp nexus

[south zephyr]

so this is solid then? @light dagger

aside form the awkward stam bonus

[cloud heron]

Looks good to me

[south zephyr]

speaking of that stam bonus, replace it with +flak?

[light dagger]

yeah that's a good start. it's all rng though, so hopefully you'll get the other blessing you need.

i like how the crafting is half built but the microtransaction store is fully functional

[steady crypt]

The charge rate being a bit low is sad but I'd do flak instead of stam yeah it's a solid staff

[south zephyr]

was under the impression you don't really fully charge surge?

[light dagger]

yeah just spam it

[cloud heron]

i don't think blessings are that important on staves. Like especially with those base stats you'd probably want to keep it regardless of whatever other blessing you got and then fix it when crafting is finished

[near wyvern]

@summer prairie

I am digging trough the code, so far I have found that if you have AB, everything that is hit by soulblaze will get a script running on them which fires on their death (it's a template filled with some data and handled over to something called internally controlled buff)

Still digging for more information on what happens when that script is fired.

[steady crypt]

is the DPS per peril better spamming?

[summer prairie]

Yes, not sure whether on_minion_death procs even if someone else kills it. For example flamer elites explode on kill uses that too

[light dagger]

yeah i'd say. just less downtime when your team is getting hit by a horde in heresy+

[steady crypt]

In my experience using it against pox/unarmored is a complete waste of time

[light dagger]

usually translates to less damage that everyone takes

[south zephyr]

heard rumors that they plan to increase the target cap on surge, any basis behind that?

[steady crypt]

It does like 100 damage to infested and unarmored even fully charged and on damnation they have like 300 HP or something

Obviously it's good to stun the elites if they're in there though

[light dagger]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C30uWwZqy0M

[steady crypt]

I definitely spam it more than fully charge it but I think sometimes it's worth to fully charge because if you have the right staff it can one shot shotgunners and stuff

[south zephyr]

every TideTuber I've seen for DT has been either way off the mark, or entirely inaccurate, how's this one?

[light dagger]

pretty on the mark.

from my own personal experience

clearing heresy pretty easily now.

don't take my word for it though, just try it out and see if you like it!

[south zephyr]

current feats and weapons for surge loadout

any suggestions on changes I should make?

[light dagger]

i would maybe take essence harvest

should just be passively procing warp charges

[cloud heron]

I would take ascendant blaze every time over kinetic barrage

[south zephyr]

what's your reasoning?

[sturdy radish]

i take warp battery because it scales better with the peril resist per warp charge i can cast my staff about 11 times before having to quell

[light dagger]

i think with the surge staff, you might not want to dump your stacks

[cloud heron]

It's a source of horde clear, which is a huge deal

[south zephyr]

horde clear shouldn't be too bad with a MK5 axe like that one though

[summer prairie]

Go for 2-1 and 3-2, warp charges don't do much for you

[light dagger]

the difference between 4 and 6 is pretty negligible

in terms of damage.

most elites still require the same amount of bursts

[cloud heron]

It's a source of very fast horde clear that lets you immediately switch to doing something else

[south zephyr]

this?

[summer prairie]

I use 312133

[light dagger]

keep communion

[south zephyr]

does 2A provide any break points though?

[summer prairie]

it gives surge a damage buff, which may or may not be relevant, but you aren't going to get value out of 2-2 unless you commit to multiple warp charge feats

and even then 2-2 doesn't do anything when you are already at critical peril

[neat summit]

Is there a bug with purg fire killing to not give warp charges with communion?

[summer prairie]

you even might want to gain peril faster if you run quell toughness

[violet thorn]

Literally a DAY after getting lv 30

https://tenor.com/view/ogvhs-woo-wooo-woooo-wooooo-gif-18199442

[tender terrace]

well its not surge but warp nexus decent?

[violet thorn]

im pretty sure ya since it can crit somehow

[sturdy radish]

i would rr infested

speaking of void first time i get a voidstrike staff above 330 and its this is the blast radius too low?

[violet thorn]

what perk should I roll on Purgatus?

infected?

[summer prairie]

that's a pretty much perfect void, at least taking the rating into account

[robust meteor]

have you done anything in game with this? really wanting to know more

[sturdy radish]

this is what i run, and a i plan to rr run n gun when the rebless comes out

[violet thorn]

is ranged crit damage good as a perk?

[sturdy radish]

i just go for crist chance

chance*

[summer prairie]

Crit damage is very bad

[violet thorn]

worse then 20% carapace dmg?

[summer prairie]

Worse than almost anything, even if your weapon has like 50% crit chance.

[violet thorn]

ight

[sturdy radish]

carapce, unyieldying and imo maniacs is the best perk

alot of maniac enemys, flamers mutants ragers

[summer prairie]

The crit damage bonus is calculated based on the base damage, so if your weapon has 100 non-weakspot damage and crits for 300, it will do 310 damage with +10% crit damage

weakspot damage is the same, but at least it's more reliable

[violet thorn]

This is the end product

not amazing but good enough for burning heretics

[sturdy radish]

yea its pretty decent

[south zephyr]

worth investing in?

[sturdy radish]

if u have aloit of mats maybe go purple on it and see if you get one good perk

current perk is bad

[south zephyr]

Yeah :\

what are some good perks for purge? flak, UA?

[sturdy radish]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1061711749000204308/20230108102241_1.jpg this is what i run

[south zephyr]

focusing crit worth it on purge? what are the benefits? does it scale the burning higher?

[frank falcon]

So I saw this, hows the shop weapon vs my current. Still leveling btw

[sturdy radish]

i took it to the practicce tool and i get none stop crits on it

but thats just me and i have an extra 15 percent more crit chance on it

i woulndt say focus on it but try and focus on making the staff a better version of what it already has

[south zephyr]

which is?

[sturdy radish]

cant say 100 percent your blessing and perk dont really scale well thus why i said get it to purple if you have the mats for it and then go fromt here

[violet thorn]

tbh I wouldnt worry about better weapons until 30

like you can run dogwater items and still run malice's with 0 issues until lv 30 in a few days

[bronze hound]

worth consecrating?

Probably not

[fast swan]

its damn good stat wise

[fluid knot]

Yeah actaully, warp resist is the dump stat

[fast swan]

when u can cange blessing, yes

[summer prairie]

It's good, even the stamina, but if you are only concentrating to get deflector, the odds aren't great

[bronze hound]

Yeah, the odds aren't the great, to say the least....

[sullen bobcat]

I'd take the deflect one and keep it to eventually remove the blessing and stick it on something else

When crafting is here 🙃

[obtuse cliff]

If you were to start Psyker all over again for the first time what mistakes would you tell yourself not to do?

[mighty pike]

I would tell myself not to play psyker

[sullen bobcat]

Pretend that warp charges are even worth trying to maintain with brain burst

[mighty pike]

No I would say "brainburst is a specialist weapon, and should be used as such". Also don't play psyker

[austere estuary]

finally got a good voidstrike base stat set

[sullen bobcat]

That warp resistance

cringe

[austere estuary]

yeah that stat doesn't matter at all

somehow this feels meta:

if they ever buff warp res to affect charging buildup

it could be huge then

[mighty pike]

You'll find another one with low blast radius at some point don't worry

[fast swan]

zamn!

[south zephyr]

dump stat on FS is warp res, right?

[mighty pike]

That's what I'm told

[mighty pike]

That's possibly the best voidstrike I have sen

[hot zephyr]

That's an unreal voidstrike... wow...

It's almost quite literally BIS

[mighty pike]

It almost feels fake

[hot zephyr]

Yeah, like if you told me that was photoshopped I wouldn't even be surprised

[grizzled iris]

It isn't photoshopped

[hot zephyr]

If you actually have that, you're basically a demi-god

[grizzled iris]

Oh you gonna love this then

[hot zephyr]

That's gotta be like a 1 in -some_huge_number- roll

[grizzled iris]

Which one of my staves do you like the most?

[mighty pike]

I haven't seen anything over 340 power in my shop for a literal week

[grizzled iris]

Should I go with Flak dmg?

[mighty pike]

This is the equivalent of showing a Victorian shoe shiner your south African diamond collection

[mighty vault]

I have a 380 DMR right now I logged in to buy, too bad gunpsyker is heresy

[grizzled iris]

Or something else?

[hot zephyr]

This one is pretty gross, once you can replace/upgrade blessing replacing run-n-gun with warp flurry that'll also be pretty close to BiS

[mighty vault]

Still just hoping for shared inventories eventually

[grizzled iris]

What do I run on my Voidstrike? Flak?

Infected?

[mighty vault]

And it was gray, lol. Nice.

7,530 is quite affordable

[hot zephyr]

Flak would typically be best since unarmoured and infested will already fall in decent breakpoints.

[mighty pike]

What is infested besides dogs?

[hot zephyr]

Poxwalkers and Dogs

[mighty vault]

Lotta stuff has flak on their heads and you're aiming at head level most of the time lol

[hot zephyr]

Most high level hordes are poxwalkers

[mighty vault]

Warp Flurry isn't actually that good, right, doesn't work right or something?

[hot zephyr]

poxes are the most annoying, since their attacks can give you corruption as bleed-thru, so even if you arne't taking damage, they can still impair your ability to complete the run

[hot zephyr]

It's that as soon as you break your RMB chain it resets

[mighty pike]

Is that necessary to bump damage on them? I didn't think poxwalkers could ever be a problem unless purely en masse

[mighty vault]

That makes sense, though

30% off charge time sounds pretty nice on paper

[hot zephyr]

It is for some weapons, poxes have 300hp on T5, so hitting 150 or 300 breakpoint to a 2-shot or 1-shot can be really important to cleaving them down en-massed quickly before you get overwhelmed

[mighty vault]

This is probably the best voidstrike I have, since I don't really use VS. I got it before refining so I haven't rolled off that perk yet.

[hot zephyr]

Yeah, but the reality is you charge shot 1, then get say 6% boost, then charge shot 2 and get 12% boost, and so on. As soon as you stop chaining you lose the bonus, so really your brain does the math and expects more from it than you typically get, because getting the 5 stack bonus is happens so rarely

It's still a good buff, but expectations are out of line with reality. 1-2 stacks is really all you'll typically have

It's best on a Purge if you like to spam RMB

[mighty vault]

Might play some VS today and see how the one above does.

[mighty pike]

Good luck

[mighty vault]

2-1-1-2-1-1 for that, probably, any good feats for VS?

Guess I could go AB if Burning Spirit is actually proccing often

[hot zephyr]

I would maybe take Quietitude instead of Warp Absorb. But otherwise that build seems solid

I think Quicken is better for dumping peril on VS so you can keep nuking

Cus you don't really care about maintaining your stacks

[mighty vault]

I don't like Quietude that much, but seems like personal preference on that tier.

[hot zephyr]

Yeah, really any of the three are fine

I'm just suggesting my opinion

[mighty vault]

Yeah, Quicken is 1 on that tier

Thought that was what I posted

It was, cool.

Oh, I see, as opposed to AB

I do like setting the whole screen on fire occasionally

But I think the cooldown would probably be more pragmatic

[teal kite]

should I keep unarmored enemies or try for infested enemies?

[mighty vault]

Nice.

I'd go for carapace on a FS ¯_(ツ)_/¯

Really the only time I'm getting it out

[grizzled iris]

Carapace + block cost reduction

[mighty vault]

You can't reroll both perks lol

[teal kite]

well I use that perk that gives +15% damage with high peril so I stun stun stun with electric then hack away a bit before stunning again

[grizzled iris]

Who said you can lol

[mighty vault]

He doesn't have one of those already, so you can't suggest two :p

[grizzled iris]

I suggested the ones you want on a FS

Sorry for not attending your special needs

[mighty vault]

sheesh, no need to be hateful. He was asking about HIS FS, posted above.

[teal kite]

I use my sword when peril is high for the damage buff so I use it on more than just carapace enemies hmm

[mighty vault]

Ehh...I guess.

If you're using it a lot with a surge, you probably don't need the help with flak and carapace, but idk

[teal kite]

im always open to hear how other people use things even if I dont just so I have a more broad understanding of scenarios in which people do things.

[mighty vault]

That's still usually the best bet, since flak is plentiful and a damage reduction regardless, and carapace is something FS' charge attack is particularly good at so you'd ideally be going for a lot.

[teal kite]

yeah its so good against them

its crazy how fast it kills enemies

[mighty vault]

I don't use it much on regular hordes other than sweeping up, so I wouldn't roll perks directed at that

[lapis bay]

Infested enemies are too easy to waste a perk spot for imo

[mighty vault]

Yeah, I generally agree, although if you could kill them in one swing instead of two that'd be worth it

[teal kite]

I just got 20% on unyelding enemies

[mighty vault]

I don't think you'd generally want to be meleeing unyielding enemies

But that's just me

[teal kite]

its mostly getting them from the side and back while others are keeping them busy, the FS does so much damage.

but I will roll carapace

hard to argue against killing a crusher faster, sometimes brainburst to too slow and hes right on top of you

[austere estuary]

FS also CCing while you're in the hit of the special is nice

[mighty vault]

Does it do that?

[austere estuary]

from activate to hit is very short

yes

[mighty vault]

I get smacked all the time if I don't make space first

[austere estuary]

the moment your charged attack touches a crusher

they're disabled

[mighty vault]

Oh, I thought you meant other enemies

[austere estuary]

charged as in force charged

[mighty vault]

Yeah most sticky attacks at least won't let your target hit you

Unless they're mutants :c

[austere estuary]

muties so rude

tbf they're usually dead so fast anyway though

[teal kite]

ngl crusher is easiler to kill 1v1 as a psyker with FS than it is with zealot and an axe

[austere estuary]

the choice is normally to heavy or not the swing after charging

[mighty vault]

Is the game like actually kind of dead? Second weekend afternoon in a row I'm not getting any matches and dumped into empty lobbies

[austere estuary]

I'm getting lobbies no problem on anything t4 or below

[mighty vault]

I tried damnation and now heresy.

[teal kite]

the empty lobbies seems wonky

[austere estuary]

though rn load screens much longer than usual so maybe servers screwy

[teal kite]

should I try to roll infested enemies with my surge staff?

[brittle crest]

when leveling, should i try n use staffs n stuff or mostly stick to gun play? Since the class doesn't seem to come "online" till later

[teal kite]

its currently at unyelding

[teal kite]

I used guns for a bit, staff felt wonky at first

[brittle crest]

i unlocked the first staff but it doesn't feel like it is that great.. only helpful thing i guess is it's funny to launch hordes into the air and not hoarding ammo hah

[mighty vault]

lol...fullhealth, tailslapped off the map by a beast in the first fuckin room

this game is so stupid

[mighty pike]

Characters fly around like there's zero gravity

[mighty pike]

Whatever you enjoy most really. You can do stuff with staffs you can't do with guns

[winter idol]

Can I ask a stupid question? does the passive on Ascendant Blaze actually work with the Purgatus Staff actual attack or only the stacks?

[brittle crest]

fair enough! i really enjoy the class fantasy of playing my psyker but it's sad that i don't think i really have a role at my low lvl since the synergy doesn't come online till later

[winter idol]

Psyker is great at like level 25+ and Painful at levels below 15 IMO.

[mighty pike]

You can still do a bit, but yeah it doesn't really feel fun or fully functional for a while. And frankly not even totally level 30

I did most my leveling with various guns, personally

[brittle crest]

i basically only play my psyker with friends at this point cause one time i ended up in a game with all low level psykers (me included) and it was painful

[mighty pike]

Only tip I can give you is to regard your brainburst as a Special Weapon and not as a first-choice. Think of it like an otherworldly armour-piercing rifle. Don't use it on poxwalkers

[brittle crest]

poxwalkers being hte normal mob?

[mighty vault]

meh, VS still sucks

[brittle crest]

i mostly try and pop specials if i can see em

and if the vet is so gracious as to let me

is there a sorta updated leveling build for talents?

[mighty vault]

Just take whatever looks good, it barely matters

[brittle crest]

the force sword also atm doesn't seem to be the best before that lvl 20 talent so i've mostly just been using the dueling sword instead

[mighty vault]

Quietude is really good for learning because you can basically regen toughness on demand

[mighty pike]

Force sword is a more unusual thing. Personally, a tactical axe or something is my favourite. Your force push ability is very handy for getting out of a dangerous situation

Psyker is good practice for the melee mechanics

[unique barn]

Yeah no

[proven hazel]

I've gotta say

learning that you can brain burst at 97% is a game changer

this should be part of the tutorial or something

[austere estuary]

oooh

[proven hazel]

like genuinely

[unique barn]

Zealot is a good class for melee/ranged mechanics

[austere estuary]

backend error now even

[unique barn]

SS too

[austere estuary]

same goes for all the staves, though different amounts

[mighty pike]

If I see my sharpshooter clubbing people I'm fighting THEM

[austere estuary]

I think you can get away with casting at like 98 or maybe even 99 on some secondaries

[ornate hamlet]

For the longest time I thought I would DIE being at 100 peril until someone in chat said you only explode if using a power at 100% rather than just being there long enough

[sharp jackal]

boi

[proven hazel]

it really does just need explaining better

like if someone told me I was at 100% mental capacity then I'd assume doing something else would kill me

[mighty pike]

Nice

[austere estuary]

peril system is great imo once you understand it; game is awful at teaching it

[mighty pike]

I can confirm the feeling irl

[brittle crest]

damn TIL

i always go straight into quelling if i'm at 100% or using my ult

but i don't really need to do anything if i'm at 100%? just not use another ability?

[austere estuary]

yep

[brittle crest]

ex, switching to a dueling sword is fine to let it naturally burn down?

[austere estuary]

being at 100% doesn't inherently do anything bad to you

[ornate hamlet]

Yeah, thats what Ive been doing ever since finding out lmao

[sharp jackal]

if ya dont twerk, dont worry

[brittle crest]

jesus christ lol

[mighty pike]

You can tap quell for a split second and get to 96% and then keep doing whatever you want lol

[brittle crest]

[mighty pike]

T... Twerk??

[brittle crest]

even learning the "you can just triple brain burst to be at 100" was huge

[ornate hamlet]

New strat unlocked

[sharp jackal]

shake or w/e this is what i call the pre-explosion status

[brittle crest]

oo ok

[mighty pike]

ALSO

You can use your force push DURING your "I'm gonna bust [my brain] " shakes to cancel it by dropping peril. Also works with any other peril-reducing phenomenon

[brittle crest]

huh

which is the force push? like the block and hold attack single enemy push?

[sharp jackal]

"F"

[brittle crest]

OH that

[mighty pike]

Yeah that's right. It's the "cryonic rods into the coolant chamber" of Warp Peril

[mighty pike]

Psykinetic's Wrath. But not the feat with the identical name

[brittle crest]

yea that is super helpful, i dunno what the intended use of the ability is, but i mostly use it as a "oh shit i forgot to manage my peril" button

lmao

while i'm here, is there like a "recommended to not do this mission type" while leveling? i know to stick to mostly lvl 1 or 2 stuff

[mighty pike]

Yeah it's that and also the "too many angry people are all around me" emergency lever

[frail berry]

Solid?

[mighty pike]

Missions matter more on skill than anything else. I played my level 6 veteran for the first time in a fortnight in malice earlier and came out unscathed

[mighty pike]

Not PERFECT but it's very good. Get it

[frail berry]

Always hard for me to remember what the various priorities are :S

[brittle crest]

ah i wasn't sure if i should avoid some just based on "not worth for how long they take" or "high chance of failure with pugs"

disruptions seem to take forever

[mighty pike]

If you've done a handful of malice games already you're good enough for malice with any character at any level is my experience

[brittle crest]

i haven't tried malice yet, mostly cause i'm not super confident in my own play esp with psyker maybe if i was on my vet (slightly higher lvl i think 12)

leveling takes longer than i assumed it would

[mighty pike]

Yeah. It will go faster once you've got into Malice though

Malice is horrifying the first three times and after six feels as easy as the previous

[cloud heron]

Yes but there's a 1% chance that the game will randomly switch you back to your staff right as you left click, causing your head to explode

[mighty pike]

Something something psyker lore

There's probably something in the lore that justifies it

[lapis bay]

F

[modern spruce]

Hey quick question: the level 30 talent Ascendant Blaze says "Enemies killed by Soulblaze effects have a 10% chance to grant you a Warp Charge" but I have someone saying that the chance to gain a warp charge can happen just from an enemy affected by soulblaze dying. True or not?

[fringe garden]

True

[tired estuary]

Yeah if another psyker kills with soulblaze it can proc for you too

[mighty pike]

True

[mighty pike]

Also apparently if it does from any source. What matters is the fact soulblaze was applied

[lapis bay]

This is really good to have too if you wanna rely on teammates to build warp charge

Pretty much guarantees full stacks in a crowd

[modern spruce]

Yes this talent will grant warp charges a lot, but the contention is about Ascendant Blaze

[mighty pike]

Both simultaneously. Stack them warp charges

[modern spruce]

I do

is great

[lapis bay]

Hell yeah, soulblaze effects from any source is OP af for it esp with purgatus

[modern spruce]

OK thanks peeps. I doubted myself because Fatshark has a history of wording things one way and it works differently lol

[fallen helm]

whats good to run with voidstaff?

[lapis bay]

Caxe

[brittle crest]

whenever something goes wrong and i'm playing with friends we just say "feels kinda mixed reviews boys"

[fallen helm]

okay talents for it?

[mighty pike]

If you filter out the reviews from before the game released its 47% positive 🙁

[brittle crest]

praise the emperor, i unlocked the surge staff and there is one in the shop

[mighty pike]

Only your natural aptitude and skill

[mental rock]

transfer peril is great with VS

[mighty pike]

Prepare to be Underwhelmed

[fallen helm]

so feats whatever you want then?

[brittle crest]

but my palpatine RP

[mental rock]

I like 322133 on void

[brittle crest]

i mostly enjoy psyker for the class fantasy anyways and cause the name i chose makes me chuckle "KumonDropout"

[mighty pike]

Surge is a tactical option not explicitly a killing one, so it works as an excellent disruptor for squads and elites etc., and benefits the most when you have a trusted teammate who can utilise that

[brittle crest]

ahh ic ic, the lightning hands doesn't actually kill hordes or w/e?

[mental rock]

the lightning has 5 max targets and low unarmoured damage so its not great for hordes

[brittle crest]

feelsbadman

[lapis bay]

Surge sounds like it'd be fun with 3 other psykers using it

[brittle crest]

am i just holding out for the flame staff?

or the void staff

[mighty pike]

For hordes you want a purgatus or a voidstrike. Don't think Surge is a bad option. It needs more teamwork

[mental rock]

in my opinion surge is the most viable staff for T5, but lower difficulties is all preference really

except trauma

only masochists like trauma

[mighty pike]

A sentence that works in-game and out

[lapis bay]

imo Purg is best because it gives both a defensive capability alongside solid damage, surge is great for defense and CC but you get swarmed pretty easily on horde engagements

[mighty vault]

I'd rather have either other feat on the communion tier

[mental rock]

I have no issues with hordes using surge

thats what my melee is for

[mighty pike]

Assault psyker is the best option

[mental rock]

get yoself a duelling sword and facetank everything lul

or Caxe

[mighty vault]

ever unequipping force sword

smdh

[mental rock]

bruh

force sword is nice and all, but muh passive quelling

[mighty vault]

passive quelling is for passive betas

[mental rock]

yeah keep saying that till your vet flashes a DH and you have to solo tank it

[mighty vault]

meditate in the enemy's face, assert dominance

[mighty pike]

I do this with my staff because my incomparable reflexes mean I can swap it for a weapon into block instantaneously

[mental rock]

kneel before our incomparable minds

[wet belfry]

Ur all casuals your supposed to use the staff as your melee weapon smh

[mighty pike]

-actual dregtide developer quote

[warped perch]

God pugs are so bad today

-_-

[mighty pike]

How come

[warped perch]

Nobody’s been staying together or trying to play the objective

Like the auspex scan

[mighty pike]

Auspex scan is probably the one teams struggle with the most

Nobody wants to do it

[warped perch]

It’s so annoying

Also I just got attacked by a dog and my teammates were right there and didn’t help me, went from an entire full health bar to dead

[austere estuary]

auspex has been good in my pugs so far

usually I try but team outstrips me in pace

good feeling

[warped perch]

They were tunnel visioning

[austere estuary]

"sorry, but your mission was aborted by an unknown error" and boot to char select

that's a new experience

[mighty vault]

that's happened to me maybe 2-3 times

[marsh token]

Happened to me ... 3min ago

[karmic quail]

What should I reroll stamina to?

[runic gate]

What mobs do you pull your melee out to kill?

[teal kite]

god I hate it when people go for brain burst when they are crushers on TOP of us

[karmic quail]

Don't really have a good answer

[runic gate]

Do you know enemy types at all?

[teal kite]

I treat my melee as a self defense weapon and a elite killer with the FS ability

[karmic quail]

I pull out my sword when my peril is high really

[teal kite]

same

[karmic quail]

Carapace already covers what I wanted to kill

[lapis bay]

Flak then if you do higher diff

[teal kite]

crushers, ragers etc all use the special attack on the FS

kill em quick

I seen so many people attempt to brain burst a rager when its like 2 feet from them

[runic gate]

It’s not as easy, reroll to your own playstyle and what staff you use.

[abstract cedar]

For deflector? Block efficiency

[teal kite]

why when I play my psker my team almost never has a vet then when i play vet its almost always 3 vets and 1 class.

[karmic quail]

I'm more familar with ogryn meta

[abstract cedar]

With that sword and the kinetic block feat you can be a small ogryn

With a staff

[teal kite]

beebee ogryn, begryn

[cloud heron]

does anyone know how burn from multiple sources stacks? Like will two purge staves just build burn faster and cap at 15 all the same? Or does each person have their own 15 stacks so the enemy goes up to 30 stacks?

[magic burrow]

amazing how when you run a purge staff every vet and their mom barrels into the incoming horde to get their frags in, but the very picosecond you switch to a surge staff every vet suddenly forgets how to handle a horde

[mighty pike]

Still trying to work out what they are veteran of

[safe mountain]

Trolling

[proven hazel]

I am about to explode I am so sick of this

like 60% of the heresy matches I join end in a failure

people just running off and dying or other stupid stuff

all those people saying they can faceroll damnation are liars

[valid lake]

thats also because a good chunk of the time someones trying to do some peance

[proven hazel]

either that or paid actors

[manic needle]

Why would you reroll stamina? Assuming youre running with Kinetic Deflection thats as good as it gets for defensive perks

[proven hazel]

I could deal with that if they said they had a penance to do at the start

but a lot of these people just seem to be dying on purpose

also a lot of people trying to res in the middle of big swarms without clearing them first

and then going down

idk its really souring my experience

[stray pond]

Melk is trying to turn me into a gun Psyker smh

[mighty pike]

He knows what's good

[stray pond]

If only he'd bring a good fucking staff instead

[valid lake]

melk and the shop are both like whats a staff all i sell is axes and guns to you guys

[stray pond]

And it's always a green trauma staff in the 330 range when he is selling one

[proven hazel]

the new global condition just rolled in and its the same as the last one

incredible

[manic needle]

Ive never noticed the global condition make any difference whatsoever, so there's that

[rigid blade]

Any tips or tricks on the Purge staff? I dunno if I am missing something or am just bad but I find myself helpless against ranged enemies with it, hell I honestly think the Zealots flamer has more range than it’s secondary

[valid lake]

what did you expect a different one hunting grounds is all we have had for like 3 weeks

[karmic quail]

Because block efficiency sounds better?

[proven hazel]

they must just have a hound surplus

[manic needle]

Run FS with deflector and either get in close or spam BB, those are really your only options with Purg

[proven hazel]

honestly a global modifier that just increases the amount of a singular enemy is really boring

[rigid blade]

Oi vey…

[manic needle]

Max Stamina plays into the formula for peril blocking, it ends up being marginally more efficient than 20% block cost

[valid lake]

my theory is we are beta testing the hounds to the extremes so then can fix the glitchy ass nature of the dogs

[proven hazel]

they wont fix the dogs

[manic needle]

If you wanted to min/max peril blocking you could even have both

[proven hazel]

dont even try kidding yourself

[valid lake]

let me have my hopeium/copeium

[near wyvern]

You want to run the feats 122132 or 121132

Yes ranged is your weakness but picking Essence Harvest from the 1st column helps tons since you can BB spam them to death while having perma toughness regen.

Just BB, quell to 97 and repeat.

[proven hazel]

I'd like to believe that darktide is going to be one of those highly polished games but the reality is the next update will break more things than it fixes

I mean I literally saw a guy the other day who had the name invisibleOgryn and his whole thing was that he'd made it so his ogryn was clipping into the floor so you couldnt see him

[stray pond]

Trying to get a good Deflector FS fuckin' sucks

[proven hazel]

there is unfortunately no coming back from that for fatshark

[rigid blade]

That works until they rush to me but in JUST enough distance away that I can’t get to them before they all start shooting and denying me a chance to get close at all

[near wyvern]

And also @rigid blade

You want to use LMB first when engaging a ranged pack since it has stronger stagger. At times you may even want to keep LMB spamming them just to keep them perma staggered so your allies can close in and melee them to death.

[rigid blade]

No regular mooks I do fine with, I do use the LMB a good amount of time, it’s the motherfuckers who decided that a chest high wall is their new home that I end up struggling

[karmic quail]

But I'm a hipster and don't carre about peril blocking

[manic needle]

Well if you're not running Kinetic Deflection then I'm actually not sure which ends up beng better. All I can say is that FS has a 1.5 modifier for stamina block cost

[near wyvern]

If it helps, I can flash mine so you know they exist

[proven hazel]

why would you not run kinetic deflection its literally a straight upgrade

[karmic quail]

I like Kinetic Shield

[fierce sinew]

kinetic shield is cute qol but peril blocking is too broken not to use imo

[west stream]

Shotgun psyker builds is where the meta is at

[stray pond]

I know they exist Pygex, they just don't exist for me

[proven hazel]

ok but you realise you can just press right mouse button and not take any toughness damage right?

like kinetic shield just becomes entirely useless the second you can do that

[near wyvern]

Don't give up, skeleton

[stray pond]

I'm honestly surprised that I've rolled so many FS and still haven't gotten an alright blessing on any except my very first.

[near wyvern]

Crafting will be here soon™️

[stray pond]

My very first FS is pretty alright™️

It's very Okay

[karmic quail]

Yeah but you slow to a crawl

[proven hazel]

crafting will be released approximately 14 months 8 days 19 hours 37 minutes from now

[manic needle]

Dodge + slide

[stray pond]

They definitely meant December 2023

[karmic quail]

No

[proven hazel]

why would you even need to move into enemies quickly???

you're not a frontline class

[near wyvern]

Unlimited dodges help a bit, you just gotta angle yourself since deflector only works from the front

[karmic quail]

Move to cover, not to enemies

[stray pond]

...Melee Psyker is fun

Not necessarily good, but fun

[proven hazel]

then why does it matter

cover isnt moving away from you

[karmic quail]

It doesn't help that you can't see shit with deflector up

[proven hazel]

???

do you close your eyes when you hold right click or something

[near wyvern]

Try melee psyker with a revolver. It's far from optimal but there is really nothing that can stop you.

[karmic quail]

A third of the screen if blocked bro

[proven hazel]

ok but you know where the cover is

[stray pond]

Oh I have, Revolver is great

[karmic quail]

Except when I dont

[proven hazel]

ok so why would you move to cover if you dont know where it is

[stray pond]

I prefer my mediocre Voidstrike staff, but I do enjoy revolvers. That said I haven't seen a Revolver in my shop since level 13

[karmic quail]

Buys me enough time to FIND cover

[proven hazel]

why are you not near cover already

[karmic quail]

Because gameplay?

[proven hazel]

???

[karmic quail]

Do you never enter corridors?

[proven hazel]

you're a psyker you should nearly always be hugging a wall or something

corridors have great cover its called the start of the corridor

[stray pond]

For context when I say level 13 Pygex, it's been a while

[near wyvern]

I have a white one. Have not upgraded it because sub par play style but it's eating elites fast enough without buffs so it will dp

[karmic quail]

Christ I just don't like the feat

The only time I peril block is if I seriously misplayed

[proven hazel]

ok well your opinion is WRONG

[karmic quail]

ok boomer

[near wyvern]

Rookie numbers

[proven hazel]

you're clearly not a kinetic deflection chad

[stray pond]

Clearly Mind in Motion is the best option for T4, obviously /s

[karmic quail]

I actually use the staffs gasp

[manic needle]

I mean, use the feats you like, just don't act like people who take Kinetic Deflectoin are melee mains.

[karmic quail]

I ain't

[proven hazel]

yeah its not something to build an entire character around

[near wyvern]

Kinetic deflection is for revive mains

[proven hazel]

it just makes melee weapons actually useful for psyker

[karmic quail]

I just find it doesn't suit my playstyle

[proven hazel]

ok well you arent playing the way fatshark intended so you'll have to spend $60 on the alternate psyker playstyle dlc released july 2026

[karmic quail]

The problem with stamina over block efficiency is you still need stamina to block

I like to run

[river zodiac]

like who actually thought of some of these blessings lol. exorcist 2%.... so many blessings worse than perks

good roll tho, my FS luck has been trash

[stray pond]

Yeah, it was my very first FS and it was my best one, but I don't even use it

[near wyvern]

Exorcist 4% ain't bad

[river zodiac]

its negligible

[stray pond]

This is my choice weapon on Psyker

[river zodiac]

weakspots only on a FS lol

[proven hazel]

honestly you should just be able to straight up build a weapon

I dont like this RNG stuff

[near wyvern]

My heavies 1 tap groaner and pox walker heads on Damnation so I can just heavy spam and quell pretty fast while killing some trash

[stray pond]

I've also got a random MK II combat axe sitting around from a Gift

[river zodiac]

i mean we're talking about 2% toughness regen on a FS weakspot hit

not dmg

[manic needle]

B-b-b-but the devs want getting good items to feel like a "treat"

[near wyvern]

I don't use quietitude, not enough toughness regen

Essence harvest is the way to go

[proven hazel]

ok well the entire game feels like a punishment right now so maybe they should prioritise that instead

[river zodiac]

im talking about the blessing lol

[stray pond]

2% toughness regen would be great, no the blessing was 2% peril on repeated weak spot hits

[stray pond]

Pygex you bastard, that flex hurts

[river zodiac]

oh thats even worse then lmao

[austere estuary]

deflector 4

[manic needle]

You mean you dont have fun camping a shop or checking an app only to be disappointed yet again every 1-2 hours?

[stray pond]

A fucking T4 Deflector

[manic needle]

I am shocked.

[river zodiac]

oohhh wait

its PERIL. ok not too shabby

should still be higher, idk why i read it as toughness regen

[proven hazel]

I dont even have fun in the missions anymore since apparently the general playerbase cant handle anything over uprising

[austere estuary]

4% every hit is v good imo

assuming we'll see lvl 5 some day