psyker-class

[tender terrace]

holy fuck why do i even bother queuing before 5 cst lol

chain dropped into games with half the team dead or bots literally in the middle of a horde

[orchid shadow]

Heyas, quick question about Heresy difficulty and Brain Burst. How does anyone find time to even get cast off? Trying to get a marked sniper while charging and dodge dancing around straggling melees that trickle in to striking distance is little nuts. I feel like I'm being babysat while I'm charging, and half the time I don't even know if I tagged the right target as I need to get back into cover so quickly. The other half of the time if feels like I've wasted the charge time (and a bit of my health because I took the hit to get the cast off) because someone else gets ahead of my cast. 😦

[red wind]

i’m pretty sure the level 30 feat called kinetic barrage or something like that allows you to charge BB 25% faster

which helps

[pure palm]

anything specific i should chase on purgatus beyond burn and cloud radius? none of the blessings seem super gamechanging and what perks do you recommend?

[twin pond]

wait for a antax mk v with brutal momentum and high base stats

[blissful hill]

be sure youre using a healthy mix of pre charging with rmb and grab-n-hide with left click\

use voice cues to have pre charged ready for some specials

[orchid shadow]

I had that feat, but it never seemed to line up right with when I needed to quickly hit the targets and when I was ulting to save myself and make space. =/ I'll keep trying.

[blissful hill]

and yeah the lvl 30 feat does help, but the other 2 options are quite good too if you're built for it

[red wind]

this helps a lot with managing it

[frail berry]

Is the 374 I linked above ok? It does not have brutal but I also have other axes with that to potentially xfer in the future.

[red wind]

the problem is that if you’re even a little off before it charges fully left clicking just cancels it lol

[orchid shadow]

Hmm, okay. RMB burst charging s something I never had to do much of before. I'll start practicing that.

[blissful hill]

it was definitely underappreciated by myself early on

[mighty pike]

Oh. Is this why right mouse seems to fuck up all the time?

[red wind]

mhm

[magic burrow]

I dont get how people can say the voidstrike staff does good damage. I have an 80% damage one and even basic guys facetank fully charged secondaries on damnation.

[blissful hill]

if you lmb at all during a rmb charge, it "converts" it to a lmb charge, so if you cahnge targets or let go of lmb you lose the rmb charge and it resets

[twin pond]

it is, but could be months before that feature is released. can't use it in the meantime, the axe isn't good without brutal momentum

[red wind]

if you, while charging with RMB, click with LMB before it’s fully charged the animation (and charge) cancels, keeping your peril at like ~40% yet restarting the charge anyway

so it’s quite annoying

[mighty pike]

PLEASE can we have something normal and not messed up

[blissful hill]

if you only lmb on one enemy you can finish a rmb charge holding lmb, but you cant change or let go

[blissful hill]

its consistent ( as far as fartshack goes) and gives a lot of flexible play, even if its awkward logistically

netcode in this game is hysterical, so finding the pattern is super muddled by that

[sleek loom]

toughts on ascendants blaze voidstrike?

[blissful hill]

is that the lvl 30 feat that gives fire to your shout?

[sleek loom]

yeah

[blissful hill]

i love building with it; idk how it fits into t5 but its def insane clear potential

added bonus of "highlighting" darker enemies in darker areas

[magic burrow]

voidstrike is really slow at building warp charges, so youre better off using the feat that makes your BB charge faster after you ult

[blissful hill]

what

voidstrike doesnt give warp charges

[sleek loom]

as every other staff lol

[wild pilot]

Hes assuming you are running kinetic flayer

[sleek loom]

its always psychich communion rng, void flayer

[magic burrow]

I mean if you use the voidstrike staff, you'll be building charges more slowly than a surge/purge psyker

[sleek loom]

surge is literally the slowest to kill anything how does that get u more charges lol

[blissful hill]

i think he means to say peril

[sleek loom]

its literally the same time to charge, the only one that really increases charge generation is purgation

[blissful hill]

warp charges are the 4 or 6 stacks, peril is the percent

trauma staff is sick af with fire builds

peril for days

[sleek loom]

fire builds?

[blissful hill]

soulblaze

[wild pilot]

Not a fan of soulblaze build, but to each their own

[sleek loom]

how does it apply soulblaze

[blissful hill]

it doesnt, it just gives you peril real fast

[sleek loom]

and u leverage that how?

[magic burrow]

when Im using the voidstrike staff I find it a lot more difficult to build and maintain warp charges. The purge staff builds warp charges the easiest, surge somewhere inbetween, dunno about the trauma staff. I just dont see the point in ascending blaze when you dont really have warp charges often. Soulblaze does like no damage on low stacks.

[lapis bay]

you know what time it is

[blissful hill]

still not sure how staffs are quantified as being better at getting warp charges

[magic burrow]

does ascending blaze work with burn stacks?

[sleek loom]

not sure either lol

[lapis bay]

We finna find out

[blissful hill]

besides that 10% change to head pop and hitting many enemies at once

[mighty pike]

https://tenor.com/view/scream-cat-loud-angry-gif-26168455

[warm flint]

purg staves are good at maintaining warp charges, surge is alright, shouldn't focus on maintaining warp charges

[blissful hill]

... still just stating the same, no explanation, help

[magic burrow]

its not the staves specifically, its the builds that utilize them.

[sleek loom]

purg is obviously the best for charges, but kinda wanted ascendants blaze for wide room clear as void

[magic burrow]

with a voidstrike staff/build youre not really going to maintain the warp charges to do that, though.

[sleek loom]

on high heresy/damnation where u need more coverage u actually do

[warm flint]

need warp charges? no

[blissful hill]

when there are enough enemies, maintaining warp charge is a non-issue with nearly all non-gun builds imo

[mighty pike]

Every day I wake up, and I thank the god emperor we have the class of psyker to play. Can I get an amen

[blissful hill]

in other words choosing a staff based on warp charge proc chance feels like some t3 and below strats

[magic burrow]

how would you do that? Unless you get lucky with the 4% feat, youre going to be spamming voidstrike charges pretty much non-stop, and that doesnt build charges

[lapis bay]

https://tenor.com/view/hulk-hogan-nodding-nod-yes-yup-gif-13973219

[sleek loom]

well yeah that 4% ofc

but not like any other staff does sth different other then purgatus

[mighty pike]

An that's why purgatus is the goat

[bitter orbit]

Are they even working on the game anymore?

[mighty pike]

It's been the golidahst

Holidays z

Why is this server so laggy. Is this just me?

[silver pagoda]

what perk do you guys like on surge staff?

[blissful hill]

nah its haunted by a golidahst

[mighty pike]

Dregtide is haunted by the golidahst

[warm flint]

+crit, +flak

[blissful hill]

fertsherk gherm sterdiers

[silver pagoda]

is +crit very useful if you already have the blessing that stacks 5 times?

[warm flint]

yes, more crit, more dmg

[lapis bay]

Servers are shitting themselves, haven’t had a single group where there wasn’t one person DCing or skipping around

[silver pagoda]

well.. yeah, ok, so like if my choice was either crit or flak, what would you choose?

[warm flint]

depends on the other perk

[fluid knot]

Flak no contest

[craggy willow]

Heresy/Damn - Flak
Fun difficulties - Crit

[fluid knot]

Heresy and Damnation are fun! Heretic! 😂

[silver pagoda]

cool, thanks

[mighty pike]

Too many people wearing flak to discount it

[craggy willow]

I handle my sadomasochism irl, games are for relaxing :c

[silver pagoda]

I knew + flak was good, just didn't know if the damage increase was better than more crits

[warm flint]

are you talking about a staff you have, post it

[mighty pike]

Where you getting all these good weapons from

[silver pagoda]

watching the shop all day using the Armoury Exchange chrome extension

[warm flint]

that's pretty good, got dinged on the charge rate vs war resist

[silver pagoda]

yeah not perfect, but not much can be yet

eventually I'll trade warp flurry for something else, but whatever, the charge rate can only be 0.2 seconds faster anyways

[warm flint]

i have similar, got dinged on dmg, but made up for it with charge

[silver pagoda]

wow, very similar

[craggy willow]

Uh oh...

[craggy willow]

How bad are they shitting themselves, exactly?

[hazy locust]

bad

[craggy willow]

Lmao. Welp, better turn it off and back on again.

[warm flint]

with that staff, my flak crit on haz5 is 790

[mighty pike]

Oh my god. We did it. We saved Atoma. Oh my god

[fluid knot]

👀

[tender terrace]

meets the expectation of "post mission table" tho

[mighty vault]

Mission accomplished boys, headin back to Holy Terra

[elfin crystal]

all psykers: noooooooo

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-escape-let-me-out-knock-jump-gif-15716377

[fluid knot]

I dont wanna get fed to the throne

[craggy willow]

..heading back to Terra for what? 👀 💦

[mighty vault]

You know what

[silver pagoda]

maybe

[fast swan]

yo is the void staff actually bad on damnation? it seems like near/fully charged headshots arent really killing anything

[supple skiff]

homie going to get the succ from Big E himself

[fast swan]

poxwalkers ma die but the dreg and scav fodder just get back up after a headshot

78% damage btw

[supple skiff]

void falls off a bit yeah

[fast swan]

that freaking sucks

[near wyvern]

Ranged enemies take like 2 headshots I think

[fast swan]

that is garbage

terrible even

[mental rock]

yeah cant really take out the abundant ranged on damnation reliably with void on your own

[fast swan]

why even play psyker >:/

[near wyvern]

On damnation void is like purge but trades width for range

[fast swan]

so instead of being a precision damage dealer its just a suppression spam?

[tender terrace]

for real bro, it doesn't even one shot everything why would anyone play it

[fast swan]

damn this game needs a balance bass

[mental rock]

this game needs a lot tbf

[fast swan]

you really think a fully charged void headshot not one shotting trash enemies is an unreasonable request?

smh that has to be bait lol

[near wyvern]

Not necessarily, there are some maps that have a lot of narrow corridors. On those you can just wipe the horde out of existence on your own while killing the ranged without even focusing

But that being said, purge is my favourite, just a more consistent experience at Damnation

[warm flint]

on haz 5 you should stick to surge and purge because they bring more utility than vs

[tender terrace]

this is like the 2-3rd time you've come in here and said the same thing, lol..

[fast swan]

but that is boring as hell, i play psyker to do damage and make explsions, not watch stuff slowly burn while i dont aim lol

[supple skiff]

or just roll heresy cause there is no reward to damnation

and its not much fun to do a higher diff if it gimps your preferred playstyle

[warm flint]

i mean, maybe you are playing the wrong class then, try vet if you want to max out dps

[fast swan]

bro...

[elfin crystal]

don,t do heresy, it's where people doing their achievements go. shudder

[fast swan]

vet is op, i just to be ablt to kill fodder with a projectile headshot that takes 2 seconds to charge up

[near wyvern]

Damnation with void works, you just really need to learn when to charge etc.

It's more versatile than purge but also a bit more dependant on the team comp.

[sharp lava]

Best Axe/Sword to run for elite killing with purg staff?

[near wyvern]

Mk V brutal momentum

[fast swan]

why is low skill no headshot mickey mouse boring playstyles the best and most effective way to play?

[supple skiff]

news bulletin

[lapis bay]

Force sword charged attack

[elfin crystal]

because psykers are currently aoe based

[sharp lava]

Thanks; no votes for duelling sword @lapis bay or @near wyvern ?

[blissful hill]

same reason you dislike the most effective way to play

preference

[tender terrace]

"guys i swear full charge doesn't one shot anything in the game even on weak spot!" obvious bait

[fast swan]

whats the aoe on brain burst?

[elfin crystal]

if you want elite no scope stuff, vet or zealot are probably more the class

[fast swan]

lol on a 5% crit chance lol

[near wyvern]

Because CC on any target is strong AF and because purge gets better the more enemies there are to kill

[tender terrace]

and flak

[blissful hill]

4Head gtem

[tender terrace]

its the crits, i swear!

[stray pond]

2 pitiful stacks of Soulblaze if you use that perk

[haughty schooner]

so warp attacks should do extra damage to chaos/infested enemies amiright?

[fast swan]

fully stacked warp charges lolz!

[elfin crystal]

you know exactly what i mean. if the grenade is not aoe, it doesn't means that all staves are not aoe. use that brain

[haughty schooner]

lorewise

[tender terrace]

its zero warp charges, you're obviously just in here to troll

[near wyvern]

You wanted for elite killing.

Duelling sword is for mobility with the ability to handle a lone mutant / elite in ok time, it's not made for that

If you go the duelling sword route you definitely want a Mk II

[fast swan]

void staff aint aoe based its mainly precision that can hit multiple enemies and is the point of discussion

[manic needle]

Who told you full charge on voidstrike doesnt one shot trash?

[blissful hill]

[tender terrace]

himself

[elfin crystal]

void shoots aoe balls my dude with cc

[tender terrace]

with a 294 staff

[manic needle]

Whoever it was is probably a troll

[fast swan]

oh zman i assumed it was may i please know your build or staff that allows this at damnation difficulty?

[elfin crystal]

idk what to tell you

[stray pond]

Lets be honest, 80% of people who use Psyker chat are here to troll, it's just the condition of this channel

[elfin crystal]

maybe good point

[blissful hill]

[manic needle]

The only possibility is that whoever said it doesnt know you should aim slightly above head level in order to headshot with voidstrike consistently

And they had to 2 shot bodyshot something

[blissful hill]

also had bad staff prolly

[tender terrace]

which you learn quickly 5 seconds into using the saff

[fast swan]

i know what a headshot hitmakrer is

[tender terrace]

even body shots they melt

fully charged staff secondary is 431 damage for me, it should one shot a lot

[fast swan]

my staff had 78% damage which doesnt one shot some dreg fodder, but apparently 80% damage hits the break point

[manic needle]

Takes 2 or more on flak

[fast swan]

headshots?

[tender terrace]

body shots

should one shot weakpoints

on most of them

[elfin crystal]

get the flak perk maybe

[near wyvern]

Out of trash mobs all but Dreg Bruiser

[blissful hill]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-oh-yeah-baby-smile-gif-13800457

[tender terrace]

can we talk about how until i just tested it now, i didn't realize the force sword special absolutely fucks on a lot of mobs

i thought it did bb damage but it does way more in a lot of cases

[elfin crystal]

oh yeah. that thing is good

[stray pond]

Is there a difference between heavy attacking with force sword special and light attacking with it?

[blissful hill]

cant knock the unlimited dodge too

[blissful hill]

damage scales with it

[near wyvern]

It deals more damage if you hit it using a heavy or landing the third hit of light chain

Also weakspots deal more damage with it (except mauler head because carapace)

[tender terrace]

yeah it does like 2x the damage with heavy

[stray pond]

Mmm good to know. I'll probably never use the Force Sword until I get a half decent Deflector one, but good to know nonetheless.

[tender terrace]

why

deflector is just a nice to have

[stray pond]

I like Devil's Claw more 🤷

Mine is somewhat subpar, but I like it.

[fast swan]

force sword does good damage on special but only if there is only 1 enemy and ur not being shot at, otherwise u will be interrupted

also for some reason it doesnt stagger mutants

[tender terrace]

almost nothing staggers mutants

[fast swan]

surge

stun nade

chainswords

[blissful hill]

deez

[fast swan]

(i think)

[blissful hill]

(i know)

[tender terrace]

chainsword?? lol

[elfin crystal]

finesse is pretty important on fs i think

[tender terrace]

i dont even think the stun grenade does tbh

[fast swan]

evisc special stuns almsot everything

[blissful hill]

BOX

[tender terrace]

its like, surge and bull rush, thats it

well yeah box stuns them into the floor

[fast swan]

either way FS special should stun mutants

[blissful hill]

nothing can stand up against bocks

[tender terrace]

box honestly doesn't do a lot of damage on anything other than mutants

[near wyvern]

Also @tender terrace even though blazing spirit is a joke, the special attack is considered a single attack with multiple hits, so you get blazing spirit applied on every special hit if you get s crit roll

Because soulblaze stacks apply double when landing a crit, blazing spirit actually applied double the stacks listed per hit

Slap bloodthirsty on top of that and you can chain 1 shot a lot of shit.

Haven't found that combination yet but damn I want to try it

[stray pond]

What's the Force Sword's dump stat, first target?

[fast swan]

warp resist

[tender terrace]

id probably say warp resist too

[fast swan]

even at 0% u can still do special at 97 peril

[near wyvern]

Definitely warp resist

[stray pond]

That's fair

[tender terrace]

but first target i dont think scales much on the FS

so maybe either

[fast swan]

also u can just cast its special for a buncha free peril to turn into toughenss

having low warp resist is really beneficial on it, it has negative value

[tender terrace]

for comparison

2 damage diffy on heavy attack similar damage 6% diffy on first target

dont think it is that important

real question is

do any of the damage stats affect the special

[stray pond]

Probably First Target actually

[tender terrace]

idk

i wouldn't "probably" anything in this game

[stray pond]

Understandable

And oh hey I do actually have a orange force sword, I don't remember what the original perks were though

[near wyvern]

First target is important for reaching 1 tap heavy heads for poxwalkers and groaners if you are into that

Might also be important for reaching 1 shot break points on some elites

[stray pond]

Exorcist seems like a bad blessing but I could be wrong

[near wyvern]

It's not bad especially with peril on block

Pairs nicely with deflector

[stray pond]

Mm I could see that. Shame that my only Deflector sword is hot garbage

[tender terrace]

dont think the fs reduces peril on its own so if you chain heavies and hit heads well it should be pretty good

[near wyvern]

It does but very slowly

[stray pond]

This man has a T4 Deflector, what a flex

[tender terrace]

mine is not great 😦

but not bad

[near wyvern]

Did I tell you this sword also 1 taps poxwalker and groaner heads on damnation with heavy attacks?

And 2 taps on lights

[stray pond]

This is the Deflector FS I found yesterday

Pretty disappointing

[tender terrace]

rip

[stray pond]

I'm keeping it in case we can ever transfer blessings

Until I know that answer for sure I'll just be making a fuck ton of rare force swords

[near wyvern]

2024 is going to be a good year

[stray pond]

Making Transcendant ones just is not worth the time and effort

[haughty schooner]

.

[manic needle]

I mean, my deflector FS has a T1 Uncanny strike and Unyielding Damage locked in. You take what you can get in Darktide's loot roulette

[stray pond]

...I'd honestly say Unyielding isn't THAT bad?

[manic needle]

Its kind of meh for the way I use it

[blissful hill]

yeh, theres not many but all unyielding enemies are assholes

im always bb-ing them tho so i dont

[stray pond]

As for the loot roulette I've gotten a singular half decent staff from an Emperor's Gift, all my other stuff I've """crafted""" with the current piecemeal system

The Devil's Claw I linked earlier and the Voidstrike staff I use

[blissful hill]

maniac is my sleeper favorite; all maniac specials need to be shut down fast

[stray pond]

I thought Mutants were the only maniac special

[blissful hill]

nah it includes the flamers and ragers and a couple others i forget

[stray pond]

Oh cool

[blissful hill]

check it out in depth in the meat grinder, its a lot lol

anybody that kinda just screams like a maniac

[stray pond]

Man. I really do need to try and 'craft' a better Voidstrike staff

[manic needle]

IDK whats your look like?

[stray pond]

This is what I've been using, but then I've not found any even half decent rares, whites, or greens in the shop

[blissful hill]

thats solid

[stray pond]

Scratch that I've found a white recently

[manic needle]

Damage stat is definitely on the lower side of what Id like

[blissful hill]

thats a great holdover till you find a godroll

[stray pond]

Yeah it's not the best but it covers what I need

[blissful hill]

WHEN you find a godroll

[stray pond]

This is the current status of the other Voidstrike I found a few days ago

I just have like 0 Plasteel

[manic needle]

I will say that its good, for a 321

[stray pond]

Yeah I made that staff before I even hit level 30 because I was tired of not finding any Voidstrike staves

Turns out that luck continued.

I'm hoping Melk will hook me up with a good one

Look, Melk got me a nice Tac axe on my Zealot

[manic needle]

Melk is useless lmao

[stray pond]

I can hold out hope

[elfin crystal]

sadly, i've only ever seen 1 good melk item and it was still kinda subpar

[stray pond]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/449088452517167124/1059731353031159888/image.png

[manic needle]

I go to melk to search for for blessings, not expecting to find good loot

[stray pond]

He blessed my Zealot with this

I rerolled the Maniacs damage into 5% Crit Chance

I enjoy a non-knife crit build now

[gaunt monolith]

Hey which staff throws the fire stuff?

[manic needle]

Melk could have good loot in theory, the problem is that he seems to have the same RNG range on stats as the armoury

[lapis bay]

Purgatus

[manic needle]

and he refreshes daily rather than hourly

[stray pond]

Purgatus

My Psyker is holding so many items that I wanna craft up but you just don't get enough Plasteel from missions

[gaunt monolith]

thx

[stray pond]

Also sadly Melk only ever has GUNS on my Psyker, so

Oh and Curios that tend to be garbage

I'll occasionally gamble with the "Random item" thing Melk can do

[mighty pike]

Is your profile picture Emma stone?

[stray pond]

I'd do it more if I could specifically gamble for a staff instead of a blanket 'ranged' weapon

[mighty pike]

The load of work you have to do to get Melkcoin for him to charge you so much for such underwhelming items is exhausting

[stray pond]

I rerolled a really bad weekly contract thing into a secondary objectives mission

I think it was complete 12 secondary objectives on some fuckin' vague area I never even see, then it rerolled into another secondary objects. And then another.

[mighty pike]

Melk thinks we're homeboys but we aren't

[hazy locust]

and this is how i get stuck with grims every fucking week.

[elfin crystal]

i'm just not doing weeklies. the coins i get, i get and i might touch them when something worth it gets added

[mighty pike]

That's me too. I'm not spending any plasteel or diamantine until all the crafting shit is evened out

[manic needle]

Alissa White-Gluz

[mighty pike]

https://tenor.com/view/spy-kids-gif-5659058

[robust sierra]

is there a point to using guns on a psyker?

[blissful hill]

funfunfunfunfunfunfun

[robust sierra]

forgive me I don't play psyker much

[robust sierra]

what guns do you like?

[lapis bay]

If you wanna top DPS and clear, yes

[robust sierra]

cause right now I am using the surge staff

[blissful hill]

revolver, maybe some autopistol

i am goblin

[manic needle]

How much do you hate Veterans?

[robust sierra]

I don't like the autopistol tbh

[robust sierra]

vet main

so not at all

[blissful hill]

you shouldnt like it. it not good.

[mighty pike]

You get more utility out of your feats by comboing them with staffs. Guns on psyker are a considerably minority opinion. It can work though, but you can do stuff with your staffs nobody else can do with their guns

[robust sierra]

yeah

[robust sierra]

right

[manic needle]

Arch Enemy is worth looking into if you like Melodic Death Metal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsuhfOD7emE

[mighty pike]

Not really a metal listener but she looks cool

Wonder what the album genre for the darktide soundtrack is. Industrial?

[long wharf]

Definitely industrial

Melodic industrial electronica

[lapis bay]

This is good but it also sucks

[hazy locust]

https://tenor.com/view/johnny-cash-hurt-music-video-nin-cover-guitar-gif-19735763

[ebon jolt]

Melk selling that fine piece of work for 5000 tokens?

[merry osprey]

CONTRACT TIME IT IS

[lilac raft]

why can't they put an icon to show the cooldown of this perk ffs

[merry osprey]

for what i had before lol

[elfin crystal]

kinda low rating for melk coins, but your choice

[long wharf]

well well well

Sour Milk actually has something for me today

time to spend some milkies

[merry osprey]

the distribution isnt the worst and the perks are great

[spare sandal]

Imagine being allergic to your own game mechanics!

[elfin crystal]

yeah fair enough. it's an upgrade to be sure

[merry osprey]

i wouldve rather had low mobality and high first target but what can you do

[elfin crystal]

mhm

higher finesse would have ben nice too

but 30% -> 60% is still nice

[merry osprey]

yep but tbh wwasnt like i used it much other than to close the gap to start palpatining people

[elfin crystal]

fair ye

[ornate hamlet]

no

[mighty vault]

why are you like this

[sick veldt]

how's this bad boy? how important is finesse

[hot zephyr]

Finesse is important, but 55% is not awful, you can def use that no problem

[sick veldt]

i realized i have another that's very similar lol

higher finesse but lower dmg/warp res

not worried about perks and stuff atm as i've still gotta roll em up and crafting isn't even fully implemented (lol. lmao.)

[wicked marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/creepy-smile-scared-scary-full-metal-jacket-gif-9031806

[peak agate]

Its finally been done

[long wharf]

Finesse is very important on fsword

55% is a bad roll

[hot zephyr]

Yeah, but it's not unplayable bad. It's just slightly sub optimal

30% yeah, chuck it straight in the bin

[gilded viper]

im i gaming?

[long wharf]

you are playing a game, yes

[gilded viper]

[long wharf]

yep, that's a sword

[cyan notch]

gotta get shred on there

[teal kite]

ooo I feel like this is a good drop

[cyan notch]

pretty good yea

[teal kite]

I prob swap that infested enemies thing out tho

neeed that carapace enemies one

[long wharf]

it's a good start

[gilded viper]

oh

[fluid knot]

Just had a game with 3 Psykers and me as a Zealot whilst levelling him up, buttery smooth till the end but we clutched it, that was actually mad fun, if you're in here lads, good stuffs 🙏

[fluid knot]

Arguably BiS for Gunpsyker is Agripinaa MG1 Infantry Autogun

Because chungus DPS an reasonable ammo count

[hot zephyr]

Yeah, honestly I find the Mk1's slower rate of fire helps with recoil control and ammo conservation as well. you aren't just riddling a corpse with bullet holes like when using an Accatran or Mk5 Columbus

[fluid knot]

Yeah pretty much, its very dependable, whip it out, burst summat nasty down, back to melee or BB, feels good man

[hot zephyr]

It sounds stupid, but the key to understanding Gun Psyker, is to remember your BB and Melee are your mainstays, and the gun is 911.

You hear that audio clue of a mutant or flamer? It's bullet time.

Your teammate in voice chat goes "oh shiiiii....." It's bullet time.

[cyan notch]

bb mainstay hmm

[knotty sage]

Sustained Fire Blessing on Staffs work for Primary and Secondary Staff Attack?

[hot zephyr]

They work on primary, but I don't think you can charge a secondary fast enough to proc it. Sustained Fire requires you pull the trigger again before recoil resets

A Salvo is defined by the game as "with the recoil set to zero, from the moment you pull the trigger until recoil resets to zero again, extended by each additional round fired"

So if your aim has enough time to fully reset and zero out your recoil between shots, you aren't proccing any Salvo based effect

[knotty sage]

Hm interesting, what about it working on Voidstrike Staff animation cancel https://youtube.com/watch?v=kuI0yivv5FU&feature=shares

[cyan notch]

maybe but it also does 0 damage

[hot zephyr]

I unfortunately am really bad with voidstrike and haven't played it much, so I can't really speak to that with any authority

[knotty sage]

Oki thank you anyway for the explanation 🙂

[hot zephyr]

No worries, just remember this with any Salvo based effect:

1. If it's a first-shot based effect, you need your recoil to fully reset between shots, so it encourages semi-auto fire and slowing down and aiming each shot rather than spam clicking
2. If it's a 2nd/3rd shot based effect, you ideally want to fire off 3 rounds in a burst, then allow recoil to reset, then fire again, thereby proccing the Salvo's 2nd/3rd round boost as much as possible, because the 4th-30th bullet get no bonus.

[ornate hamlet]

Im trying to decide on surge staff perks

anyone have thoughts on the best ones

[hot zephyr]

5% crit chance is the best perk, then +dmg to flak or caraspace would be next

Surge does bonus damage to metal-armoured enemies, so you wanna increase that as much as possible

[ornate hamlet]

thanks

[lapis bay]

I've critted and there've been no stacks, is this blessing bugged?

[naive dawn]

It works, but considering you have no crit on your weapon I think base crit is 5%(?) so 1/20 shots you should see a flame. Try it in the meat grinder.

[lapis bay]

I was gunna melt it but wanted to see if it was even worth it but it makes a good backscratcher

[hot zephyr]

Technically it wouldn't even be guaranteed 1/20, since the non-crit rolls don't decrease the probability of a proc. So you could easily have stretches where you don't crit 40-50 shots in a row and that wouldn't even be statistically unlikely to regularly happen.

[weary moss]

what do yall think?gonna reroll the crit perk after i get the mats for it.

feel like there are probably better blessings than executor, but got stam so that's nice

[hot zephyr]

+1 stam is heavily underrated/underappreciated for psyker, just don't get locked into the deflector mindset too much. Blocking ranged is addicting and you can easily become dependent on having it in every build

[cyan notch]

stam is good for blocking anyway

[elfin crystal]

i find deflector to be kind of a crutch for good positioning tbh.

most of the time. for rez it,s nice tho yeah

[violet yoke]

I mean vets have camo perk/ zealots have a self healing perk/ we get to block ranged but have to use force swords.

[cyan notch]

yea

who needs good positioning when standing still gives u 90% reduced threat generation

[teal kite]

can this be any worse for my psyker

[cyan notch]

yea u coulda had +1 stamina and +6% xp and +6% dockets

[teal kite]

yikes

alright that is way worse LOL

[elfin roost]

We need a psyker built around exploding yourself

We shall call it the suisyker!

[lapis bay]

Psypukku

another meh staff, surge when

[sonic aspen]

is this where we argue about everything

[long wharf]

yes and no

[fluid knot]

Loads autogun menacingly Bring it on..

[mental vortex]

5th class is going to be a commissar

[long wharf]

so, interesting story

the lua code for Ascendant Blaze doesn't do any checking for who owns the soulblaze dots on the killed enemy

and all AB feats register for the enemy death event, so they're all being proc'd

[magic hull]

psyke! thats the wrong number

https://tenor.com/view/sike-mindblown-cocky-gif-22762302

someone pls photoshop psyker face in tnks

[glossy escarp]

What does this mean in ogryn terms?

Me not think so good

[fluid knot]

Means smash it in the 'ead good pal

[glossy escarp]

TIME FER CRUMPIN'

[sonic aspen]

it means if 4 psykers run AB and have soul blaze = infinite stacks for all

and if that does work then KO on all of them would make everything melt

in theory

[glossy escarp]

Based

So basically what it means is if you light up a crowd with AB and your teammates mow them down the next millisecond you still get that 10% chance for a warp charge for every dead heretic? @long wharf

[long wharf]

yeah, it's worth testing

[glossy escarp]

Nice

I'll feel less bad about my team zerking the horde I worked so hard to burn for them

[long wharf]

you don't have to use AB to ignite the crowd

any enemy with soulblaze (warpfire) on it that dies will proc AB for all psykers that have it

[blazing oak]

https://preview.redd.it/nebi5mrq1lh71.jpg?auto=webp&s=ea7584909b273c68a5c556f46731510e7993ea7e

Surge psykers stunning the tide of elites while their pug team loots diamantine in the corner

[magic hull]

I CANT HOLD IT ANYMORE

ThE VOICES

[rigid blade]

Is the Force Sword good?

[long wharf]

situational

like all of the psyker's kit

[jovial frigate]

you know how much bettter psyker would be if they didnt mash disciplines into staves and instead gave us 1 discipline for class abilities and different variations of force melee weps

makes me sad thinking about it

[rigid blade]

Been playing Psyker a good amount and I was basically speedrunning to level 15 for that 4% Warp Charge Cohesion thing

So that’s why I was wondering, really wish it had a full vanguard or relentless combo

[manic needle]

Force Sword is for killing Elites and specials, and control with the push. With Deflector and Kinetic Deflection its great for tanking ranged as well

[rigid blade]

Another question by the way, what’s the difference between the Voidstrike and Trauma Staff? They seem to work similarly only one is a projectile with an AoE and the other is just a regular AoE

[brave dawn]

what u just said lol

[manic needle]

Voidstrike isnt really about the AoE. What matters is the piercing projectile

[rigid blade]

Figured there’d be more than that.

[rigid blade]

Wait it can pierce?

[brave dawn]

u want the void to make it simple

[manic needle]

Aim it at enemy heads and you can take out large groups of enemies in a line

[brave dawn]

through all but the ogres

[rigid blade]

Interesting

[manic needle]

The explosion on voidstrike literally does 12-30 damage or so. Not good for anything outside of the stagger

[rigid blade]

I see.

[manic needle]

The projectile itself does a lot of damage though

[brave dawn]

the aoe is smaller on void full charged but the fact ur going horizontally through the whole horde just makes it do more damage per shot

[manic needle]

Think of it as the Bolt Staff from vermintide

[brave dawn]

also a one shot for most common

[rigid blade]

I see, also since we’re on the subject, does Trauma’s AoE spread among the enemies or does it do full on all?

[brave dawn]

full

only way it would make it near the same as the other staves

[rigid blade]

So either the Mechanicus gave me the equivalent of a Dying Car for a staff or enemies are tankier than I thought

[manic needle]

Trauma is pretty stat dependent for performance

[brave dawn]

is it a trauma staff?

cuz ur never gunna like them

[rigid blade]

Surge is considered really good right? Is that due to the AoE half second stun? And is it possible to make it hit more mooks?

[manic needle]

Define good

[brave dawn]

all staves arent too good honestly

void is ur best bet for minion clear

the surge is the one u want if u have someone frontlining for u cuz it can stun anything

[rigid blade]

Gun Psyker it is I guess if staves ain’t good.

[manic needle]

lmao staves are fine

At least try them and form your own opinions

[brave dawn]

i dont blame u lol

[manic needle]

Purgatus is what a lot of people like right now

Im using Voidstrike

[blazing oak]

Thousand sons approve!

[manic needle]

Surge is good for CC and vs. Scab shooters

[rigid blade]

Purgatus I want to try but at the same time it’s a short range good for hordes, meaning I might as well melee

[manic needle]

Not really no

Unless you think Flamethrower on zealot is pointless

[brave dawn]

fire staff is an odd one i feel like it only stuns commmon

[manic needle]

Either way its going to hit and kill a lot more things than any melee options, with a good cloud radius it has decent range

For better range I recommend voidstrike

[rigid blade]

Wait question

Can it inflict Soulblaze?

[brave dawn]

it is soulblaze

[manic needle]

Soulblaze is the main source of damage

[rigid blade]

That changes everything

[manic needle]

so you use it with ascendant blaze

[brave dawn]

but just doesnt proc the perk like youd want it

[rigid blade]

Why’s that?

[brave dawn]

that perk only refers to the soulblaze u make from ur ability

[rigid blade]

From that one perk or from perks in general?

[brave dawn]

that one

[rigid blade]

Cause I know there’s one other.

[brave dawn]

the final perk

[rigid blade]

I see. Gonna have to test that out tommorow.

[heavy inlet]

anyone could help me get ,going out with a bang>?

[long wharf]

the purge staff's attack doesn't proc AB, but any enemy that dies while afflicted by soulblaze will proc AB for all psykers with AB

[manic needle]

When you say staff attack, are you talking about the direct damage from the flame gout, or both that and the burn stacks applied to the target by it?

[long wharf]

the flame gout itself

it's just a projectile that applies soulblaze to enemies it hits

[manic needle]

Okay that's pretty consistent from back when I tried Purg

[long wharf]

does damage as well, but that damage isn't itself soulblaze damage

[manic needle]

The fact that dataminers found out that soulblaze proc's every psyker's talent is interesting, though. You could put together some interesting team comps with that

[long wharf]

well

I'm not sure that it's better to run AB over Kinetic Barrage, when you aren't running with purge

warp charges really aren't something worth focusing on, frankly

you'll get more utility out of KB for helping DPS bosses

if soulblaze did more damage, that might change the equation, but soulblaze's damage is so poor that it takes a good number of stacks for you to really see it go

[manic needle]

DPSing bosses is pretty low priority for most psykers, I would be more concerned about the loss of elite/special killing potential

But I'd want to test out a couple different builds in premades now that I know about the AB quirk

[wet pivot]

Purg melt nurgle

[long wharf]

no, flamer melts nurgle

purge tickles nurgle to death

[orchid nest]

purg does reasonable boss damage but yeah it should like always be disclaimered (for a psyker)

[long wharf]

the problem with using AB on non-purge build is that there is zero synergy with what you're doing

[wet pivot]

I think flamer more damage bcoz of continuous flame until ammo run out. It can stack burn to the max faster than purg

[long wharf]

warp charges aren't something you have to focus on, you're going to get them one way or another

the only way you could possibly turn multiple-psyker-AB-procs into combat effectiveness would be for you to also run Kinetic Overload

[wet pivot]

And i think dot doesn’t refresh duration and stack

[long wharf]

what?

[wet pivot]

Each burn stack has its own duration i mean

[long wharf]

no

[wet pivot]

Yea, i tried it in the meat grinder

[long wharf]

you can have multiple stacks of soulblaze

[wet pivot]

I know

You can

[long wharf]

you can have one stack from purge, another from fsword (blazing spirit)

and each player's stacks are separate from each other

[wet pivot]

Im not talking about soul blaze, im talkin about purg and flamer

[long wharf]

oh, well yeah of course, they're different dots

[manic needle]

Well at least you're starting to think outside of the box for non-standard group specific builds that might be fun

[wet pivot]

Since purge has shorter duration of charge attack than flamer which rely on ammo

[manic needle]

With that said, I'm going to be experimenting regardless

[long wharf]

let me know if you discover anything interesting

[manic needle]

You got it boss

[wet pivot]

Regardless purg can still melt boss like flamer

I like purge

[long wharf]

there's one that purge can't do shit to

demonhost

[wet pivot]

? I mean it’s berserker type

Why you wan to trigger demonhost anyway

It’s recommended to avoid it

[manic needle]

Suffer not the daemon to live

[long wharf]

demonhosts count as monstrosities

[manic needle]

If u dont aggro every daemonhost youre a heretic and I have to execute you

[long wharf]

if you have that weekly to do

[wet pivot]

Lol

[long wharf]

and with a good zealot, or a shield ogryn, or a decent peril blocking psyker

it can be safely tanked until the team kills it

that said, I prefer to avoid them just the same

[wet pivot]

Rarely found randos that can tank it

[manic needle]

Dont do that in PUGs though, A good number of players just run as soon as a host is aggro'd, regardless if someone is tanking it

[wet pivot]

Mostly the trigger it will die out of panic

[manic needle]

And then when you tell them someone is tanking it they ignore you

Or say its just outright not possible to kill

[wet pivot]

I know

[manic needle]

Honestly reddit tropes need to die generally

[wet pivot]

I have killed it before

I mean every randos that i met is not ready for demonhost

Mostly the one that trigger demonhost will die out of panic xD

And imma laughin until it sets its eyes on me

xD

[long wharf]

during a mission with grims tonight, someone triggered the demonhost, and because they were holding a grim, I let the demonhost finish killing them before I finished off the demonhost

[manic needle]

Did they fix the bug where you could pick up a grim and discard it for weekly progress?

[earnest peak]

what should i change here if anything?

[long wharf]

dunno, I always reroll grim contracts

[manic needle]

Made grims one of the easier ones tbh

Screw hanging onto them though

I havent tried it in a while simply because I dont really care about getting more tokens atm

[long wharf]

I mean, you'd be silly to reroll the specialists, since it rolled t4

you want ranged crit chance on that staff

[wet pivot]

Enlighten me, why crit?

[manic needle]

Nice nexus roll

[orchid nest]

yeah sucks it is t4 but I'd still roll the specialists off

[long wharf]

because when purge crits, it applies two stacks of soulblaze instead of one

[manic needle]

Crits apply more stacks of soulblaze

[wet pivot]

Ow

I see, that’s new to me

xD

[long wharf]

bed time for me

[earnest peak]

good idea, thanks!

[atomic dagger]

What is "Rending"? is it good? 🤔

[earnest peak]

like armor reduction i think

[manic needle]

It basically ammounts to more damage against armor, yeah

[fallen helm]

whats good for force swords?

[manic needle]

If someone has datamined precisely what it does and how it's different from similarly named abilities that seem to do the same thing, I dont know about it

[atomic dagger]

oh okay, so it debuffs the target? does it count for the whole party ?

[orchid nest]

flak is also good, either crit or flak. helps burn the elites in the horde

[full kite]

no, brittle is party armor reduction

[wet pivot]

Deflector

[fallen helm]

like stats wise

my b

[wet pivot]

U have no idea, how good that it

[full kite]

deflector and slaughter I believe

[manic needle]

Damage/Finesse/First Target

[wet pivot]

Tankin gunner like it was nothin

[manic needle]

Ignore warp resist, its basically useless

[long wharf]

one last thing before I go to bed - rending is the ramping up of armor penetration of your attacks against that enemy

brittleness is a reduction of armor of that enemy

brittleness helps the team, rending helps you

[full kite]

warp resist can be dumpstat because you can quell and still use special around 95% which is easy to quickly quell

[fallen helm]

gg

[atomic dagger]

ah i see @long wharf thx for the clarification

[long wharf]

I'm out

stay classy, siblings

[fallen helm]

later man

[atomic dagger]

what does deflector do? never seen it so far

[fallen helm]

thank yall btw just lmk I got a shit sword thats got deflector time to save now

[wet pivot]

If you dont have deflector, i think its better to use chain sword. It cleaves more and its all rounding weapon

[manic needle]

Your force sword blocks ranged attacks as well as melee

[wet pivot]

Can block range attack

[fallen helm]

pew pew doesn't hurt

[atomic dagger]

why not just use staffs then? hmm

[wet pivot]

Except sniper

[manic needle]

How much blocking do you do with staffs?

[atomic dagger]

[wet pivot]

Lol

[atomic dagger]

100%
stunned enemy cant shoot 🤷‍♂️

[wet pivot]

Yea good luck with gunner that is 15f away

[fallen helm]

u mean block or shoot?

[manic needle]

Just stun and be aware of every ranged enemy before they can attack, got it

[atomic dagger]

then i just hide behind a crate and head pop

[wet pivot]

Deflector > block

[fallen helm]

with staff tho

[atomic dagger]

perhaps if you want to do a melee build psyker then you need deflector?

[fallen helm]

its good to have that option if needed

[earnest peak]

deflector is nice, but not necessary

[manic needle]

Im just going to guess you play on lower difficulties and not bother arguing with you

[wet pivot]

Easy sayin than done in open space

I think its necessary

[atomic dagger]

soon we will have the option to switch blessings 🙂

[wet pivot]

It helps with revive

[atomic dagger]

i have already learned to evade open spaces

[wet pivot]

Imagine tankin gunner while revivin, it’s just so fuckin amazing feeling

[manic needle]

Deflector + Kinetic Deflection talent makes Psyker a tankier reviver than Ogryn, by a lot

[atomic dagger]

not gonna lie, my psyker is a coward - moving from crate to crate

[wet pivot]

Lemme see how much you can dodge against 2 or more gunner

[earnest peak]

kinetic deflection is my fav perk in that slot

[full kite]

slide

[atomic dagger]

im just a heresy maggot, but there are only 2 things that ruin my day: snipers and snipers

[manic needle]

Slide is okay but as soon as you get pinged by 1 shooter or gunner youre fucked if you get caught in the open

Deflector also lets you reposition vs. ranged so youre not pinned in a bad spot

and do it safely

[wet pivot]

There’s a limit how much you can slide in open space against gunner bruh.

[wet pivot]

Up

[full kite]

gotta learn to dodge them but if there's two snipers then yeah it gets super hard

[full kite]

that's why you dodge to cover

slide*

[earnest peak]

dodge + slide

[manic needle]

Also something that deflector makes much easier and safer

[full kite]

indeed

[wet pivot]

I know, but there’s just time when this can just spawn behind you and gunning you to death before u have even chance to find cover

[full kite]

that's my secret I only move from cover to cover

[atomic dagger]

the thing what always gets me is when the sniper sits on the other side of the map, behind an attacking crowd
and i cant even see where the shots are coming from, let alone head pop

[wet pivot]

Plus if your toughness gone you get stunned by ranged attack

[spice bough]

and dont forget they always come with horde

[fallen helm]

dogs are the bane of my existence clearing hoard then both dogs focus my ass stg they plan before spawning like a gameplan

[full kite]

dogs are mine too

can dodge anything except dogs they want the cuddles

[spice bough]

that cute

[manic needle]

Something else you can do with deflector/Kinetic Deflection and enough peril reduction efficiency is ranged tank for your team, similar to a shield ogryn. It's certainly more situational and less paractical in most situations than the other applications, but it's an option.

[wet pivot]

Run purge, it spray like insecticide for dogs

[atomic dagger]

surge staff electro(cute)s hounds

[full kite]

this is where I ping it and hope teammates can kill it

[manic needle]

And unlike shield ogryns you arent stuck with a shittier melee weapon in order to do it

[atomic dagger]

true, always good to give the player more options

and i must admit... the clip i saw about it on youtube with Deflection looked kinda badass

[wet pivot]

I think the most applicable of deflector is being able to tank ranged while revivin

[atomic dagger]

but peril jumps from 10% to insta 90% is kinda scary

[wet pivot]

Yesterday i was able to revive a person with 3 gunners gunning me

[fallen helm]

but big number go brr

[full kite]

side note

what's a recommended build for surge + FS

[wet pivot]

The peril generation is almost negligible with 1 gunner

[fallen helm]

oouu good question i also wanna know

[full kite]

I've been running soulblaze ult + easily stackable BB/warp charges so I can ult to deal with hordes

[atomic dagger]

I try to stay on Surge as much as possible, the FS is just in case I find my self out of position and away from my team because I HAD TO GRAB THAT DIAMANTIN AGAIN fsss

[wet pivot]

Imma runnin surge with weapon cleaving for survival against hord

[full kite]

I really just like FS infinite dodge and push

but yeah only killing 1-2 things in melee feels so bad

[wet pivot]

Devil sword or chain sword is good

[manic needle]

Try running a Mk.5 Axe with Surge

[wet pivot]

Chain sword is more all rounded weapon

[manic needle]

Great horde clear on the counterattack, and very safe

[atomic dagger]

maybe its just me but i feel like FS hacks faster than all the other supposed "flurry" weapons

[wet pivot]

Plus the special attack can trigger 10% chance to BB

[manic needle]

If youre just facing poxwalkers youre almost never in danger with a Mk. 5 axe

[manic needle]

Any attack can trigger flayer, even Brainburst lol

[wet pivot]

That’s the point

Chain sword special hits multiple times

[full kite]

lightning staff + FS is funny to me

cause your only issue is poxwalkers and groaners

[wet pivot]

So the special attack is likely to trigger the BB in single swing

That’s good against elite

[manic needle]

Mk. 5 Axe compliments surge almost perfectly for that reason

[fallen helm]

surge is a blessing right?

[atomic dagger]

does an axe hit multiple enemies?

[manic needle]

Go for Limbsplitter and Brutal Momentum blessings

[wet pivot]

Staff

[earnest peak]

staff

[manic needle]

It's both

[fallen helm]

thank you

[manic needle]

There's a staff and a blessing called surge

Surge staff is a lightning staff that jumps between up to 60 targets and deals high damage to flak, carapace, and unyielding

Surge blessing is a staff blessing that makes you hit twice on critical hits

[fallen helm]

ahhh emperor palpatine

[wet pivot]

There u go

xD

[atomic dagger]

unlimited powaaa

[earnest peak]

60 target palps would be so nice

[spice bough]

https://tenor.com/view/everything-is-pretty-cool-pretty-cool-good-everyone-is-nice-everyone-is-cool-gif-16985519

[manic needle]

Unfortunately Surge Blessing is insanely rare, but if I've seen clips of it annihilating things on proc

IE. A voidstrike staff one shotting Crushers on Damnation

[fast swan]

screenshot?

[fallen helm]

wouldnt it be video?

[atomic dagger]

painting

[fast swan]

nvm

[manic needle]

I dont think I bookmarked it, Ill scroll up for a little bit but I spent about half an hour finding it to link to someone yesterday

And I didnt bother to save it

[fallen helm]

lmao

[earnest peak]

https://giphy.com/gifs/lol-futurama-humor-cFgb5p5e1My3K

[atomic dagger]

I got meself your recommended axe
is this good? :/

[manic needle]

Its okay, the blessings youre looking for are Limbsplitter and Brutal Momentum

[atomic dagger]

didnt got the blessing, but i choose rating over blessing

and wtf does limbsplitter do

[manic needle]

The stats arent bad, would be nice if the dump stat was mobility, without brutal momentum a low cleave value will be felt

[atomic dagger]

is there like a list ingame of all the blessings and stuff ?

[manic needle]

Limbsplitter - first attack in achain does more damage, all subsequent attacks deal less damage

And yes, gameslantern has most of them

[atomic dagger]

gameslantern?

[earnest peak]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/weapon-blessing-traits

[manic needle]

Limbsplitter is really good because you're primarily using the push counterattack with mk. 5, which breaks a chain and also counts as the first attack in a chain

[atomic dagger]

so... you just do 1 attack and abort the chain?

[manic needle]

With Psyker's stamina regenration it should be maintainable

[earnest peak]

more than anything you're gonna use it for horde defence

block + push + cleave attack, pox and groaners cant touch you

[atomic dagger]

cleave attack? it says only single target attacks for me

[earnest peak]

its block follow up cleaves

er, push follow up

[atomic dagger]

thats not what it says in the describtion

[manic needle]

Just try holding the block button and then holding left click in the meat grinder and test it out for yourself

[earnest peak]

there isnt a description for the attack to come after a push, is there?

[tender terrace]

you test this? have heard weird shit about limb

[atomic dagger]

exactly my point

[earnest peak]

its all i run right now

[manic needle]

I have yes

What weird shit have you heard

[violet yoke]

Guys come on! Any one who says anything in here is a certified expert no fact checks need just do it!!

[earnest peak]

this guy gets it

[tender terrace]

that it doesn’t break but I don’t remember the details - someone posted some tests

[manic needle]

If you find it let me know

[atomic dagger]

ooof
i wasnt aware that there are so many blessings
i always end up with the same ones

[violet yoke]

Just meat grinder it

[manic needle]

Im going to ask NewType if he saved the video of the Voidstrike with Surge blessing I sent him

[earnest peak]

ya, i feel ya. I've seen oinly one deflector roll

[tender terrace]

I tried mk V caxe on zealot today was pretty lit

VIII not too bad either but a little wonky

[ruby mural]

lol consecrated for this blessing rip

[fallen helm]

gg

[ruby mural]

uninstall lol

[fallen helm]

just looks like u gonna have a good void when u can change the blessing lmao

when will that be did they say?

[manic needle]

I found one video on a single shot dealing 3/4 to a crusher, but Im pretty sure there's a flayer proc in there. Im done looking for the right video for now though

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Asia7hAE2GE

Fuck all that scrolling and shit

[fallen helm]

props tho

[tribal ore]

What’s the peril threshold for BB without killing yourself

[tender terrace]

97%

[manic needle]

Shame the staff in the video had Flurry instead of Nexus

But still thats amazing luck

[ruby mural]

never

[fallen helm]

Let the man dream

[idle shuttle]

why is the video titled that

[manic needle]

....?

[idle shuttle]

funny lookin surge staff

[manic needle]

Just pause and look at the staff's stats at the beginning

[idle shuttle]

OHH okay

that i didnt do and wtf

is that a new blessing

[manic needle]

No its just an exceedingly rare one

[idle shuttle]

cause it basically means

200% damage bonus on crit

[manic needle]

100% but yeah

[idle shuttle]

well no its better than that

cause now its twice the CC on something else

and twice the whatever blessing is under it

amazing

[earnest peak]

lemme know when you roll that, we going to Vegas

[silk verge]

hey is that staff worth upgrading or not?

[manic needle]

That has the potential to be really good

[earnest peak]

if the next perk isn't fire id stop

[manic needle]

GL on the second perk roll

[lapis bay]

GL

[silk verge]

what fire perk? sry new to psyker

[earnest peak]

i just mean, the next perk needs to be good

you want to reroll that sprint

[silk verge]

ah k thx

[drowsy furnace]

got a well-rolled 380 from the store 🙂

it's an autogun 😦

[mighty pike]

Something something gunpsyker something

[candid mesa]

Does anyone still have their voidstrike skin for their purgatus staff

[manic needle]

I actually got a 380 mk 1 autogun earlier too lol

The life of a Psyker

[manic needle]

With how bloated my inventory is at this point, I prefer to keep my staffs separated by their base skins + variants, tbh. It makes for faster spotting while scrolling

[candid mesa]

It's just so funny to me they haven't fixed that

[manic needle]

I assume it isnt a bug

So you can put paid skins on any staff

[mighty pike]

I have to assume it's intentional. It has all the staffs listed on what it works for on the shop window

[candid mesa]

I don't recollect buying it from a store eg it just popped up on my inventory and I equipped it

[mighty pike]

I think it's a case of remodels and skins using the same system and they haven't bothered to separate them in how they work

[manic needle]

Could you have gotten skins from a promotion?

I didnt pay attention to the Twitch promos that gifted skins so I have no idea what they gave

[candid mesa]

Nope It's definitely a skin bug I'll record a clip here

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/PzEJevqEjKmFA/d1337qAMfA01?invite=cr-MSxUdzYsMTYxMTg1MzY0LA

[manic needle]

Just looks like the Voidstrike Nightshade camo skin at a glance

[candid mesa]

Hope they don't take this off x)

[manic needle]

If you get into a lobby with someone who demands you use a specific staff, just equip that staff's skin on your preferred weapon :^)

[glad jasper]

Wasn't the nightshade a twitch drop?

[candid mesa]

Gaaaabe

[manic needle]

Crucis Nightshade is buyable from the store

[candid mesa]

yeah, maybe

[manic needle]

But actually that might not be it?

Oh it is

[candid mesa]

It is

[glad jasper]

Morning

[glad jasper]

Hoot damn, this looks dope

[hybrid stump]

what is the best curio stats for psyker ?

[candid mesa]

This is what should've been equippable for purgatus

My brain

[manic needle]

Check pins for the argument of why health is better than toughness

[hybrid stump]

ty

[candid mesa]

@manic needle Wait, I can also equip the voidstrike skin to all my staff types lol

[manic needle]

Yeah all skins are universal

It's presumably so that you can equip the Staff skins from the real money store on any staff

[sturdy meadow]

i have a question for anyone with a good purgatus staff: does high 70s/80s in Burn give 15 stacks of burn?

[bleak tulip]

counterargument: dont stand in fire like a dumbass and toughness does plenty of work filtering out range damage, build for health you build for failure imo

toughness is infinite, health is not, so building around tanking with health is a fools errand in my eyes

[mental vortex]

why does nobody play heresy

its not very fun playing with bots in empty lobies

[bleak tulip]

its too late/early

not that many people online

[mental vortex]

no its 12 pm

[bleak tulip]

around now is global gaming dead hours

[mental vortex]

this should be populated times where I live

it is with most games

[near wyvern]

2 health 1 wound unless you are using kinetic shielding, then you wanna go with 2 or 3 toughness

[hybrid stump]

ty

[cyan notch]

100 toughness is more than enough and the only stuff that chunks you are snipers and shotgunners and max toughness aint gonna stop that and youre gonna lose a ton of health for that so more health helps you when u do get shotgunned etc

unless you never get shotgunned or sniped then sure toughness all the way

[tired estuary]

just never get hit and run stamina curios with exp and curio reward

[bleak tulip]

shotgunners I can understand, if you get hit by a sniper thats low key your own fault though

[summer prairie]

on damnation two regular shooters can pretty much instantly delete your toughness

[bleak tulip]

on damnation you can tank two shooters with toughness for long enough to get out of the way

or kill em both

[summer prairie]

yeah but usually it isn't just two

[bleak tulip]

if youre getting shot by like 5 shooters youre out of position tbh

[cyan notch]

usually yes but they have no spawn sound and you only have a split second to dodge in the correct direction if you dont know where they are

[summer prairie]

they can spawn and drop anywhere around you

[bleak tulip]

they literally shine their laser at you for like 3 whole ass seconds and basically never spawn behind you

[cyan notch]

idk about 3s

[bleak tulip]

sure feels that way

[sturdy meadow]

thanks. guess i'll hold out for a better purgatus staff

[bleak tulip]

I just never had a big issue with them idk

[summer prairie]

enemies can literally spawn next to you when you move your camera for a sec

without coming out of doors or anything

[cyan notch]

doesnt matter anyway my point was unmitigable damage anyway and snipers were just one of em

shotgunners appear behind you boom half health gone

[bleak tulip]

I dont think I recall a single time a sniper spawned behind me and shot me without me knowing in over 200 hours

shotgunners is another story that is true

[summer prairie]

regular shooters are the biggest threat

[bleak tulip]

ideally you never get close enough to the shooter group to be in range to get chunked by shotgunners if you can help it

been going well for me up until now

[cyan notch]

thats why i said this

if u never get shotgunned or sniped then hey good for you

[bleak tulip]

its just generally avoidable damage is all im saying

[summer prairie]

if you only ever get hit by a few enemies doesn't matter what you run

not like the chip damage is ever going to kill you

[cyan notch]

well 2 shotgun blasts might

[bleak tulip]

usually its not the shotgunners that kill you, its the melee enemies after your toughness is broken

[summer prairie]

Psykers dont die to melee enemies

[tired estuary]

idk I think its reasonable to say you can go with w/e you prefer if you play fairly safe

[bleak tulip]

exactly

[summer prairie]

if they run peril block

[bleak tulip]

im not just talking psyker

psykers shouldnt even be in range of shotgunners imo

[cyan notch]

they have quite a long range

and sometimes the map isnt that big enough for you to run all the way to the other side of the room

[bleak tulip]

either you can deal with them in their range or you dont have any business being near em

[cyan notch]

when they spawn from a door beside you

[mighty pike]

Shotfunners have the range of a whole room though

[bleak tulip]

they dont chunk you over their whole range

also whole room is hyperbole

[mighty pike]

Depends how big the room is. The buckshot isn't really wide

[bleak tulip]

its further than you think and it still stings

[orchid nest]

I would be more down for stacking toughness if psyker base went up and shotgunner resist was added

[mighty pike]

I am finding now I'm running +health instead of +toughness I am taking more damage overall

[cyan notch]

i agree with this

[bleak tulip]

I just dont see how stacking health is that much better just because your base is 50 higher and you get 13% extra across all curios

[cyan notch]

well its not just because that

[summer prairie]

because shooters do 2-3x toughness damage

[cyan notch]

its to reduce unmitigable damage from shotgunners and snipers

for me at least

[bleak tulip]

its still only like 5% per hit tho

[summer prairie]

uh

[dusky whale]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/104tps2/the_psyker_experience/

[mighty pike]

Do shotgunners do unmitigable damage innately or is it just that they're that nasty?

[cyan notch]

yes they do like 10x toughness damage

or maybe 4x

[bleak tulip]

they do a lot of damage is mostly it

theyre easily the most bursty enemy in the game

[bleak tulip]

here is a hit from a traitor guardsman on damnation with about 165 toughness

[summer sonnet]

does anyone know what settings need to be where to get the weird lightning blur using the surge staff?

[summer prairie]

Hard to gauge how much that is

[summer sonnet]

i miss it and idk what i turned off to lose it

[bleak tulip]

you do the math

might not be exactly 5% but it sure isnt a lot

[mighty pike]

If you're talking about when it suddenly appeared few weeks ago and then got removed, it was because it was removed because it blinded people

[summer sonnet]

oh 😦 i want it back XD

gosh dangit

[bleak tulip]

20/300 is about 6.6%

[mighty pike]

There's a strange split between a majority that couldn't use or be near it because of the extreme brightness and a minority that thought it was cool

[orchid nest]

yeah a lot of stuff has a toughness multiplier. It's normal gaming instinct I would say to want to stack toughness when thinking about general gaming mechanics but it just doesn't actually save you from that much damage here. it's not like it does nothing either of course. you take health damage from mistakes at a reduced rate though and you have to make a lot of small ones to even be at the base health someone without health would have. and the stuff that really messes you up like shotgunners and snipers favor health anyways

[cyan notch]

yea regular shooters dont do health damage to me anyway with 100 toughness so i rather have health

[mighty pike]

Shotgunners aren't that common and snipers are easy dodges though. Common dregs are my biggest concern. getting caught in crossfire is what causes me the most damage

[summer prairie]

In my experience you never go down due to slow damage accumulation

[cyan notch]

ive noticed sometimes even when im not full toughness the shooters always seems to just break toughness but not do health damage

[mighty pike]

What is the calculation for damage taken by range against our toughness? For melee it's a % reduction

[summer prairie]

I think there's a mechanic that when your shield is broken, you don't immediately take health damage even if there is shot damage remaining but could be wrong

[river sand]

at 100% toughness usually one little dreg salvo is enough for my toughness to break ....

[summer prairie]

of course not the case for some attacks

[orchid nest]

I thought I have noticed the same thing but it was hard to tell for sure. like shield gating in warframe

[mighty pike]

Why exactly do we not know this

This is the most basic mechanic and was it never explained to us?

[cyan notch]

yea i have a feeling thats the case cuz ive gotten shot by shooters at like 30 toughness and it does no health damage

[bleak tulip]

I mean they do less damage against health because otherwise that shit would suck

[cyan notch]

no nononononononono

they do a ton of damage to health

[bleak tulip]

less than toughness I mean

[cyan notch]

ive gotten shot with no toughness before youre at half hp with one volley

[mighty pike]

General chat has agreed that toughness fully absorbs ranged damage with no spill through, unlike melee

[bleak tulip]

fun fact, you can tank a crusher overhead with full toughness on damnation with three toughness curios

[orchid nest]

do you think they would ever give us 150 toughness. it would put us even with zealot for least stats

[mighty pike]

I don't understand why we would get less than zealot. For what balancing purpose

[bleak tulip]

youre a ranged class

zealot is a melee class

(predominantly)

[mighty pike]

Unlike veterans which is a ranged class and yet has the most toughness in the game?

[bleak tulip]

I mean thats just vet bullshit again lets be real

[mighty pike]

Sure

[bleak tulip]

they also get 5% more crit than everyone else

why

fuck it

[mighty pike]

Personally if a class was ranged I would give them more protection against ranged, if I was making a game