psyker-class

[mighty pike]

Horde Vs horde is the nemesis of zombie games

[ebon jolt]

Rumbler just feels so ammo inefficient.

[wet raven]

all their weapons feel that way tbf

[dawn orchid]

You need rending on them

It's such a big difference

[ebon jolt]

I don’t really like any of the Ogryn ranged weapons. Makes me not like playing the class much. Even though they have some fire melee options.

[cyan notch]

get a vet to give u ammo

[pine hearth]

can only dueling sword and force sword roll defelctor?

[dawn orchid]

Yeah, I barely ever have to pick up ammo with a vet around using a properly set up GG

[magic nebula]

Only force sword.

[dawn orchid]

Dueling sword can't roll deflector

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/weapon-blessing-traits?type=0dc25d7a-e323-4151-b784-d968c041faa0

[mighty pike]

Which I find very disappointing

[light citrus]

Go for dagger

if no fs with reflector

[mighty pike]

I give it thirty days before there's a hugely popular "deflector is a crutch blessing" and everyone stops using it

[magic nebula]

Can't find a good FS with deflector, but having a great time with dueling sword.

[pine hearth]

I prefer chainsword

[ebon jolt]

It’s QoL with revives and block pushes. Hard to not want to use it when using the FS. Don’t find myself just holding block much anymore though.

[pine hearth]

but latlery been getting matchs with no vets

and ranged destorys us

[mighty pike]

Which one do you prefer

[ebon jolt]

The fact that the FS block is blinding doesn’t help.

[magic nebula]

Id' say they´re different. You have much better mobility with the dueling sword keeping you out of harms way, but can't hold your ground quite as well as you could with the FS.

[light citrus]

Bleedig dagger punch for everything

[magic nebula]

Though a backstep and staff switch sorts that for you.

[pine hearth]

chainsword with right blessings is like 70% of a powersword

[dawn orchid]

Deflector seems to be the only thing keeping force sword competitive with the antax and the dueling sword

[magic nebula]

For the wannabe-zealots, sure.

[mighty pike]

That and perhaps the special attack

[wet raven]

why cant ye siblings be faithful?

why must there be so much heresy filling your poor tiny souls smh

[mighty pike]

Give me a power fist fatshark

[craggy willow]

There'll be plenty of Faith to go around for siblings if Big-E ever ends up in the Warp for good

[ebon jolt]

I think slaughter and bloodthirsty do a lot to improve the clear potential of the FS. Either of these blessings are probably more impactful than deflector.

Too bad I don’t have a decent FS with either.

[mighty pike]

Deflector is my crutch when I'm stuck behind a box in a corner because there's a firing squad in front the 3 zealots I'm with aren't doing anything about

[mighty vault]

I just wouldn't have gone in the room until it was dealt with

The zealots are scratching their head, "why did the psyker charge in? didn't he see all the guns?"

[mighty pike]

This isn't a joke. Help me. There must be a way to get out of these situations right

[ebon jolt]

I think the best part about the FS is it can pretty much delete any elite or special. Good pairing with a staff or gun that focuses on horde clear.

[mighty vault]

yup...

[patent hatch]

Chain sword does similar things. BUT

It feels so much cooler

And it does more armour

[mighty vault]

No it doesn't, lol

[patent hatch]

Yes it does smh

[abstract cedar]

Chain sword feels wrong as a psyker

[mighty vault]

FS does 1200 damage on a crusher head

[abstract cedar]

It feels... primitive

[valid marsh]

no chainsword is actually weaker against armor

than the force sword

[magic nebula]

I'd rather have Deflector and Exorcist on my FS, so I can maximize the staff use for clear or cc.

[valid marsh]

the force sword I'm fairly certain ignores armor on its special attack

[mighty pike]

This is a product of your incomparable mind

[mighty pike]

Exorcist?

[patent hatch]

Nah it’s just a stat buff

That would be insane

[valid marsh]

Well, yeah

it is insane

[mighty vault]

It already is insane.

[valid marsh]

It's the force sword

its a brainburst on a stick

[mighty vault]

^

[mighty pike]

https://tenor.com/view/korysverse-koryverse-kermit-inject-gif-25294457

[wet raven]

give him a powerful fist fatshark

[mighty vault]

It's a better brainburst at the cost of melee range.

[patent hatch]

But chain sword is a chain saw on a stick

[ebon jolt]

I think the chainsword feels janky. I have to aim to the left and slightly above the head to get a weakspot hit. If feel like I have a lot of trouble with weak spots on the weapon. And the heavy chain feels like it should be good at horde control but it feels worse than the horizontal swings from the claw sword or other weapons.

[valid marsh]

Chainsaws break

MY DREAM does not

Probably.

[mighty pike]

I agree the heavies feel no different from the normals

[patent hatch]

Unfortunately you have to have the perk which gives you 200% cleave on multiple melee. Without that it has terrible hoard clear

[mighty pike]

Horde*

[patent hatch]

With that tho it shreds them pretty hard

[violet yoke]

Surg staff can be fired from cover and hits stuff mid to close range In cover

BB Can be used at any range from cover

Void staff rips heds off of people in cover hits any range but u have to pop out for a sec to toss it

[mighty vault]

Why are you meleeing hordes as psyker

[valid marsh]

Chainsword is cool but statistically against armor the force sword is simply better

What the chainsword has over force sword is better cleave

[patent hatch]

Using guns or stuck where I can’t use my staff

[mighty vault]

[valid marsh]

because its fun

[patent hatch]

also that

[magic nebula]

Because he brought the surge staff?

[valid marsh]

and Antax MKV axe is fucking busted

[abstract cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/kon-fun-things-are-fun-anime-cute-yui-gif-16787421

[patent hatch]

True

[valid marsh]

ah yes

push attack

[mighty pike]

Are we meant to be using voidstrike for headshots? I've always assumed it should be body or ground shots because of the explosive effect. Maybe that's why I didn't like it

[patent hatch]

not enough people know about that axe I feel

[valid marsh]

No, enough people do

[mighty pike]

That's why I play psyker what do you mean

[patent hatch]

Head shots, treat it as a cannon ball

[teal kite]

I need dat

[valid marsh]

I like tac axe more though

[long wharf]

The aoe isn't big enough to be treated as a rocket launcher

[patent hatch]

It has crazy penetration and ok AEO

[long wharf]

You need to be assuming for weakspots

[teal kite]

Why does es it sometimes knock out a group then other times hit one person in said group

[mighty vault]

assuming what

[magic nebula]

Yes - head pop and let the projectile aoe-blast at every single thing it penetrates whilst giving you all the cost back if you shoot it in a horde.

[valid marsh]

No the explosion is wholly irrelevant for its real power

[patent hatch]

Aiming* I expect

[mighty pike]

I see. It's not an artillery shell at all it's an extra big bullet

[patent hatch]

the explosion is nothing it’s the penetration which makes it nutty

[valid marsh]

It's a single heavy hitting projectile that pierces through dozens of enemies

[wet raven]

because duelist sword is surprisingly efficient at clearing hoards and my other weapons suffer if i waste ammo

[teal kite]

Visually it makes you think of a small grenade explosion

[worthy wedge]

It doesn't trigger other brainburst feats/talents/whatever they're called though, right?

[mighty vault]

ammo

you people are trolling me

[valid marsh]

great against chaff, maybe not when compared to the purgatus but its a lot of damage IMMEDIATELY

[patent hatch]

Gun Psyker is pretty decent lol

[mighty vault]

kicked

[echo parrot]

I see Oroposting has begun again

[violet yoke]

Full charge void will rip heads off of all normal shooters and it has a blast area so if u aim just above the cover the void will still rip there heads off with the blast area. As for getting in position use an FS with deflect and unlimited dodge to get the good spots to shoot from

[echo parrot]

Lets count the "kicks"

[teal kite]

[valid marsh]

Obviously if you have a horde right in front of your face purgatus is better

[patent hatch]

It’s essentially playing as a Veteran. But trading off some damage for more utility

[valid marsh]

But if you're fighting down a hallway

or a bunch of guys are on their way to you

[mighty pike]

I unashamedly melee hordes. I don't care what anyone says sometimes it's more effective and safe than using your staff or whatever. I am chopping those motherfuckers up and sending them back to Nurgle in a snuffbox

[valid marsh]

Voidstrike is magnificent for clearing lines

[mighty pike]

Is it my first action? No. But I will do it

[ebon jolt]

I have a pretty good chain sword with tier 3 wrath for a total of +75% cleave. Still feels janky. I get 200% is much better. Still feels janky. I probably just need to use it more. I’ve used the FS so much that it feels fine to clear hordes with it now.

[valid marsh]

[wet raven]

drinking game?

[teal kite]

I use that perk that gives damage based on peril so I max out peril with staff then use sword a bit then switch back to staff

[patent hatch]

I mean I got a perfect chain sword haven’t gone back

[scarlet geyser]

worth upgrading?

[worthy wedge]

I agree. It kinda depends on the exact situation, but I'll melee some hordes easier than flame staff. Other hordes get the fire.

[echo parrot]

People shaming psykers for meleeing hordes when they know the surge staff exists

tsk tsk

[ebon jolt]

Dang nice. Looks better than mine:

[valid marsh]

brutal momentum is extremely good

[patent hatch]

Wrath is bad, Savage sweep is lovely tho

[mighty pike]

No idea in what world trying to delete a bunch of guys in front of you with voidstrike is more effective than pushing them over and amputating their limbs with an axe

[teal kite]

Right but I've seen people meleeing hordes while they have the flame staff

[patent hatch]

That’s what makes it playable without it I wouldn’t use it

[mighty vault]

Not sure why wrath exists when savage sweep rolls on the same weapon, it's just a mean joke

[scarlet geyser]

can someone help me with monstrosity challenge?

[valid marsh]

I burn them then chop up what's left

[teal kite]

That's fine at least burn em tho lol

[valid marsh]

DoT's + superior immediate damage from melee

[echo parrot]

As a void user, yes, it is more effective, a lot more effective.

[valid marsh]

IF you don't constantly swap between staff and sword you're playing wrong

[mighty vault]

Maybe if you brought a bad staff

[patent hatch]

Wrath is useless. Savage sweep is 👌

[echo parrot]

Heresy

[teal kite]

With the perk with damage based on peril I'd say you're correct

[teal kite]

Exactly

[valid marsh]

Staff and melee are supposed to support eachother

[mighty pike]

In what game are you guys solely using your staff and never a melee weapon. And why, considering the fact the melee combat is actually good

[patent hatch]

Switching to a sword after stunning mobs with surge is definitely the best way to use surge

[valid marsh]

Trauma still needs a damage buff yeah but its immediate CC for your melee

[patent hatch]

I am guilty of using Traumua

[mighty vault]

You pretty rarely need to get your sword out with purgatus

[valid marsh]

So if you like knocking people down then chopping them up its solid

[mighty pike]

Fatshark made a 50/50 ranged/melee game and people are trying to do only one half

[mighty vault]

Someone else is likely going to compete with you for crusher/rager kills, and someone closer.

[mighty pike]

I don't NEED to but I actively want to. If there's two guys I'm slicing and dicing I don't see why

[valid marsh]

To be fair you pretty much can with surge staff

[patent hatch]

Feels to good not to enjoy the violent bangs

[teal kite]

So I like keeping up the electro staff as much as possible especially if my team is all preachers. I just keep stunning while they hack away. If I see a rager or Ogryn tho it's force sword as you can kill them faster than a zealot with the force sword special

[mighty vault]

If there's no need to rush into melee range as psyker to try and do zealot's job, probably not going to

[echo parrot]

Im not "solely" using my staff. Void is just better against hordes because you can just pop heads in a line. I use FS for small groups and big guys, but if there is a a full horde in front of me a non-charged alt attack from void is still better than melee in my eyes.

[teal kite]

Force sword special is OP

It wrecks all

[patent hatch]

Try playing Knife Purge staff.

[mighty vault]

They already shoot glowing heads constantly, I don't need to sprint up and smack crushers they're already fighting, unless someone's in trouble.

[mighty pike]

I'd find the game considerably more boring if I only used a staff, personally

[wet raven]

just buy and test

you have the mons

[mighty vault]

Main character syndrome is shooting every blue head and thinking you have to get the kill on every elite

[worthy wedge]

part of the reason people try to do only half is because there are plenty of enemies that are way easier using ranged to kill, and damn near nobody that is way easier using melee to kill. It can become pretty easy to fall into the habit of using one over the other.

[mighty pike]

My greatest desire is to have everyone in this chat in one game and see how they actually play and who should and shouldn't be giving advice

[mighty vault]

I invited people to play yesterday ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[echo parrot]

My first order of business would be to kick Oro

[mighty vault]

so upset ^

[echo parrot]

Kick

[mighty pike]

https://tenor.com/view/rock-eyebrow-gif-21516829

[wet raven]

could you imagine the lag? it would be incredible

[mighty vault]

wait did he mean like 20 people in a single strike team

[magic nebula]

20 psykers against the world.

[teal kite]

A large hive defense mode!!

[mighty vault]

I was gonna play ogryn or something, lol

[mighty pike]

I mean absolutely everyone here. Just to see who is good and who isn't

[mighty vault]

You can't put that many people on one team homie

[teal kite]

I wouldn't say I'm "good", prob decent

[mighty vault]

also it kinda sounds toxic from the outset like that, lol.

[mighty pike]

Why do you think I think this is a serious and actual suggestion for a match

This is a hypothetical for the purposes of amusement and thought

[mighty vault]

oh okay

[fresh reef]

Reminder that four psykers in coherency have +40% damage to elites and specials

[mighty vault]

I don't think it would be possible for anyone to do badly with 20 people on a striketeam, though

The auras don't stack, but yeah, that would be nice

[wet raven]

psyker battle royal, blessed be the day the emperor and his ut most wisdom set such a sight before mine eyes

[mighty pike]

Put everyone through a gauntlet and see who lives and who dies. Scoring panel of everyone else

[violet yoke]

I mean the fun part about forums is trying shit out and seeing if you like it. Not omg he's not the best so don't listen to him.... u came in here asking questions we didn't start lecturing u...

[patent hatch]

There would be a heck ton more mobs tbh

[mighty vault]

He's just messing around, squirrel

[mighty pike]

I'm just saying it as a bit cause there's a lot of big differences in 'proscribed' ways of playing and I bet some of them do and don't work

[full kite]

Idk you can be trash and offer good advice

[mighty vault]

It doesn't really matter how many more the game tried to squeeze out with like 3-5 surge staves and purgatus going

[full kite]

Or you can be like me and be trash and offer bad advice

[jagged vessel]

Vet like that

[magic nebula]

If auras stacked you could start with 5 preachers for a base toughness damage resistance of 110%.

[full kite]

😎

[patent hatch]

Do as I say not as I do

[mighty pike]

There's got to be at least one person who says "play like this" and only gets minced. Other than me

[fresh reef]

"You should be controlling the horde in the frontline" — Zealot who just moved the frontline to be in the center of a trash horde

[wet raven]

or you can be me, offer memes in exchange for potential greater learning ;v

[patent hatch]

Idk I’ll stick to my Traumua and Chain sword

[jagged vessel]

"Yes it's my build"

[patent hatch]

Badaboom and VROOOOOM

[mighty vault]

Knife psyker movetechs 3km ahead and dies to dogs —"you're supposed to be covering psyker"

[mighty pike]

Bro trust me. I HAVE to be in the middle.

[patent hatch]

Tbh if u die to a dog your just bad full stop

[fresh reef]

Had a psyker named "OgrynPeelForMe" who had max wounds and used most of them lol

[mighty vault]

Tbh if you die to a dog you're just alone full stop

It would be different if it were consistent whether or not dodging worked

[mighty pike]

If you die to a dog actually nobody wants you to remain alive

[craggy willow]

Love this. My Veteran is named "Mom" and I constantly babysit the slowest of the other 3 in PUGs

[echo parrot]

If you die to a dog the dog killed you

Hottest take

[magic nebula]

It's the rare perilexploder build.

[fresh reef]

Imagine not being a god and just avoiding every disabler

[mighty vault]

This makes sense, +3 Wound is the psyker meta

[tender terrace]

i had some pskyer in my game bragging about having +8 stamina in vc

[mighty pike]

+3 wounds and headhunter assault rifle. The ideal psyker build

[violet thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/tang-keke-love-live-superstar-anime-crown-you-dropped-this-gif-23333600

[echo parrot]

The very moment somebody starts bragging in VC you know its going to be a shit ride

[fresh reef]

When the dueling sword user has more Stam than a bully club

[mighty vault]

Trapper seems the least janky, but dog and mutant will catch you after you've fully bodily dodged out of the way and have turned your attention to something else entirely, safe in the knowledge that there's no way that hitbox is catching you and then it does anyway

[fluid knot]

Which is most clowns tbh

[wet raven]

1 looking for materials to actually gain some reward for playing
2 looking for the remaining scriptures because no one is checking around
3 sometimes people just literally want you to suffer and are too preoccupied jamming to kaity parry than to make sure their fellow teammates are alive and well

[jagged vessel]

I still don't understand how dog can down an ogryn

[craggy willow]

Muties removed all their unnecessary organs and bones to maximize drifting

[fresh reef]

You can't dodge dogs, straight up

[magic nebula]

Hmm, can zealots or vets tank the DH indefinitely as Psykers and ogryn can?

[craggy willow]

Camping corners does not work

[patent hatch]

I can consistently dodge mutants and trappers but dogs teleport on top of you

[patent hatch]

No

[mighty vault]

The only true way to evade mutants is to hop a guardrail and force it to repath

[violet thorn]

you can but its entirely RNG

[patent hatch]

true

[tender terrace]

dogs and fuckin bursters man, fuck dogs and fuck bursters

[full kite]

Nah jsut dodge it in open space lol

[patent hatch]

Just push dodge them

[mighty vault]

See above

[tender terrace]

push burster, see hit marker, no stagger, gg

[fluid knot]

Bursters aint so bad, but dogs an muties can get fucked

[craggy willow]

Fuck trying this, just shove dogs mid-jump or from a corner

[full kite]

Don’t dodge towards an object or else it’ll repath 180 and hit you

[echo parrot]

Dogs always just defy logic, but I never have issues dodging muties.

[mighty vault]

Unless you guys got better servers than me, push is a diceroll, too.

[patent hatch]

Muties deal to much damage I feel

[tender terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-really-gif-24755231

[echo parrot]

Provided I dodge left instead of right.

[fluid knot]

Ehh, its not the damage that annoys me, its them breakin their own rules constantly an u-turning round cover like assholes

[violet thorn]

The only special that I have seen to be jank to a noticable degree is hound

[tender terrace]

burster ignores force push like 50% of the time too

[fresh reef]

Best technique is the dodge and shove so you don't get staggering and pounced by their dumb af constant hitbox

[mighty vault]

Dogs and bursters also straight up ignore psykinetic wrath so you have to melee push them, which is maybe a 50/50

[full kite]

Muties are easy to dodge, even in a horde but not dogs imo

[violet thorn]

Ive seen Mutant meme vids but I have only ever seen hound do wacky shit

[wet raven]

im tempted to dodge everything by uninstalling :V too bad theres nothing better to do

[fluid knot]

Play DayZ

[craggy willow]

Fair, I'm usually panicking so I never think to try both

[violet thorn]

You can push bursters with wrath

[jagged vessel]

No problem do(g)dging before patch
Now it's hell

[patent hatch]

Killing floor 2 is also pretty good

[violet thorn]

is it consistent? IDK

[patent hatch]

And 1. Tbh

[mighty vault]

It's like you didn't even read the message you replied to

[fresh reef]

L4d2 my beloved

[tender terrace]

you can push bursters with wrath

[mighty vault]

And it doesn't work a ton of the time

[patent hatch]

Any hoard game gets my juices flowing tbh

[tender terrace]

did you know you can just push the bursters with wrath?

[mighty vault]

Oh shit, no, thanks

[violet thorn]

"maybe a 50/50"

[tender terrace]

if you're confused just hit the F key when pointing at the burster

[echo parrot]

I use psykinetic wrath all the time against bursters and hounds without issue, what are you on about.

[mighty vault]

Do you have to take a feat for that, I've never heard of that move

new class?

[full kite]

Skill is shoe

[tender terrace]

yeah its feat #3 on the 7th row

[patent hatch]

I’ve found that using ascendents blaze seems to make the knock back feel more inconsistent

[mighty vault]

cool thx

[craggy willow]

"This technique works all the time on my PC even if it doesn't always work on yours."

[mighty vault]

Then you have a blue burning dog flying at your face instead

[wet raven]

ive thought about it but naw, i just need more souls likes maaaaan

[zinc phoenix]

A hot dog as it were

[violet thorn]

people who say bugs are a rig issue need to be deported to Yemen

[fresh reef]

@mighty vault push strength of Wrath scales with peril, so if it's less than a shove (ie at 0% peril) it won't push bursters

[fluid knot]

Its the same level of difficulty/zero handholding ngl

[tender terrace]

works 60% of the time, all the time

[craggy willow]

Under Obama's presidency*

[jagged vessel]

It's a feature not a bug

[mighty vault]

does melee push scale with peril too lel

[zinc phoenix]

Thanks Obama

[magic nebula]

Assuming nobody hurts it while you do that, it tends to work.

[echo parrot]

Ahhhh ok thank you for posting that. If they already started the jump animation then its not going to work.

[devout sentinel]

for my "dmg staff" players if u didnt know this yet

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuI0yivv5FU

[zinc phoenix]

Obama needs to fix the fat shark servers or else

[supple skiff]

a push back ult that doesnt push back is peak darktide

[tender terrace]

you're trolling right?

[violet thorn]

in that case he might of been too far away

[mighty vault]

it also does work once they've jumped. Sometimes.

[supple skiff]

fs peril push works

[violet thorn]

but yea ive seen them ignore knockback

[mighty vault]

Sometimes it works before they've jumped as well.

Sometimes.

[craggy willow]

It looks like he flinched upon force shove before jumping, but didn't fully stagger. Odd.

[violet thorn]

like literally any knockback

[tender terrace]

are you trolling too? do you not see the mobs literally clipping the model of the burster being pushed back?

[fresh reef]

Alternatively use trauma or Void and abuse the fact that they take 30x explosive damage

👍

[violet thorn]

bro everything clips through everything

[jagged vessel]

It's like the damage location

[violet thorn]

[tender terrace]

bro like, you're obviously trolling, nbd i got u bud

[mighty vault]

It's pretty safe to assume every response is trolling

[cyan notch]

f only ever worked for me during the jump animation

[tender terrace]

sometimes you gotta check ig

[echo parrot]

No, most things ive tried while it is jumping didnt work. Only thing that worked all the time was surge. Sometimes I might get it to work with a fully charge void shot, but rarely with PW unless you are at like 90 peril.

[tender terrace]

it isn't fucking jumping in the video

[cyan notch]

i thought thats how its supposed to work like melee pushes you can only push them in their jump

[mighty vault]

I didn't watch the video, we're talking about different things lol

[echo parrot]

Damn im blind af

[violet thorn]

I wish FatShart actually bugtested so we dont have to fucking reee about "is this one of the bugs or not"

[violet yoke]

Trauma staff at any charge will insta pop pox busters

[violet thorn]

like how do we know

[echo parrot]

Self callout

[jagged vessel]

He start explosif animation 1.5sec after bump power

[violet thorn]

there is like 10 things buggy in that vid

[tender terrace]

straight up runs like 3-4 steps after i hit f and then jumps

[orchid nest]

pushing them mid jump with purg is very consistent

[wet raven]

hehehe

[magic nebula]

It's being shot at while you F though, I usually finds it only fails then.

[craggy willow]

It isn't jumping in the video at all, it runs and then jumps

[echo parrot]

Yeah I watched it again after you said he wasnt jumping, I thought the bit of stagger was a part of the prejump. Dumb rabbit moment.

[mighty vault]

The only winning move with bursters is to sprint and slide out of the room while your team explodes

[tender terrace]

yeah that seems to be the explanation that is correct for now, that they have some insane stagger resistance when being shot

[mighty vault]

That has explanatory power but makes zero sense

which is why I now believe it, because fatshark

[cyan notch]

i dont believe it

[tender terrace]

yeah oops moms spaghetti

[mighty vault]

too bad, it's now truth

[cyan notch]

your truth sure

[mighty vault]

you don't get a different truth, sorry, heretic

[tender terrace]

idk that guy angry crab said it and he seems to be smart enough with datamining to be a reliable source

[wet raven]

working as intended

[mighty vault]

My favorite shit is going to push the burster and your team exploding it in your fuckin face

which is another reason I just slide out the D-O now

[tender terrace]

last time that happened to me i literally barrel boomed that guy off the map

[mighty vault]

good luck, zealots

[fluid knot]

Yeah i had someone say "If you wanna troll shoot the burster someone is about to push" and i was just like, no fam, i dont intentionally throw games. What a fuckin tool

[mighty vault]

I played with three zealots last night that were so bad I began to doubt it wasn't intentional

[full kite]

I was all three zealots

It wasn’t intentional

[orchid venture]

multiboxing so you can get disappointed by 3 rng stores at once, smart

[tender terrace]

wait until you find out you can access it from browser

[mighty vault]

You can't buy from it, though, that would be immeasurably complex APIs

[jagged vessel]

I'm so tired of trying again again and again this f** Pick & mix x_x

[ebon jolt]

Just played around with a dueling sword with 80 mobility. Movement is sweet. Don’t have a good one right now but will be on the lookout. Thanks for the suggestion of giving it a try. Do you chain heavies during a horde or spam light attacks?

[cyan notch]

light

[mighty vault]

What do you mean, trying? If you're trying to orchestrate a penance where a minimum number of elites you can kill in one shot and your teammates kill none of them before, you're going to have a bad time

[craggy willow]

I haven't tried duelers yet but whatever chains horizontal cleaves sounds good in hordes.

[mighty vault]

Literally just play the game and all of these except Malleus Monstronum will just eventually happen.

[tender terrace]

buy cosmetics instead

[mighty vault]

On a long enough timeline if you're a badass that one could happen, too, tbh, I'm sure people have had to clutch and fight a monstrosity during.

[violet thorn]

Ive broke down and im downloading DT on my "work" computer to get the funni 510 weapons

[ebon jolt]

Mk 2 or 4? Assuming not Mk 5 because it doesn’t have cleave damage.

[violet thorn]

I might need help making filters for the plugin

[jagged vessel]

Nop, i want to finish this

[orchid venture]

what if... the store just had one copy of every single weapon for your class at all times, but with 0 stats present, just a blank slate. and every time you buy it it gets randomized stats and blessings in your inventory.

[cyan notch]

i use 5 but it doesnt matter you use lights for hordes for all of em

[tender terrace]

ok but buy cosmetics, then do the penance then

[mighty vault]

Sounds...immeasurably complex

[tender terrace]

isnt that what the melk thing does

[orchid venture]

i mean, it's pretty much just sire melks random rolls, but you choose the weapon

[jagged vessel]

Already have best cosmetic for psyker haha

[mighty vault]

You can't pick weapon types, which is what he wants to do

[full kite]

Isn’t that vt2 crafting

[violet thorn]

thats arguably worse

[mighty vault]

Yeah, now you have to buy all the bad rolls, lol

[violet thorn]

^

[tender terrace]

my man wants to introduce diablo 2 gold gambling and i dont even hate the idea

[orchid venture]

hmm, true

[violet thorn]

I hate gambling

I hate gambling

https://tenor.com/view/troll-face-meme-trololo-cursed-gif-21288173

[fluid knot]

I too hate gambling, unless i have a good hand

[orchid venture]

I was gonna say, maybe that idea wouldn't be bad if we had the blessing combining system, but then every roll that isn't a blue would be shit

I just sincerely hope that they dont make it so you can only change a single blessing on each weapon

that's like, the entire reason everyone fucking hated and left Outriders

[violet thorn]

Anyone have a non-reddit link to the shop pluggin?

[jagged vessel]

The problem of Pick & mix is that it's too RNG, impossible to go solo without friend, I'm always at 4 then the timer passes before the 5th comes

When you have the only one of a million chance to have the 5 elite, kill 4, a vet kill the last one because it's a furax and BB take 2/3 xD

[tender terrace]

p sure i just got that one randomly playing

[jagged vessel]

(Baguette penance but it's Pick & mix)

[mighty vault]

Oh, my sweet summer child

[jagged vessel]

Sure, but i can't, 10 day i'm farming it
Join a loby, fast trying check, kill, fail, leave xD

[mighty vault]

I did it solo on Enclavum Baross.

[jagged vessel]

Lukcy !

[mighty vault]

No, it just isn't that impossible.

But trying to orchestrate it consciously and frustrating yourself into a coma over it is going to make it seem that way.

And/or give you an ulcer

Also you're using Kinetic Barrage, right?

[jagged vessel]

Yep but it's the way i am, every game, when i have a challenge i'm hardtrying the challenge

Yep'

I know the Psyker build for that

[mighty vault]

It's just the third feat in the last tier. Pretty much the only one I'd say you really need

Unless you're in a penance group and all your teammates are also trying to help you get it, in which case you probably wouldn't even need that

[jagged vessel]

Yep, you need friend who know killing elite it's bad, the chance to get the good ones at the same moment

[cyan notch]

start of chasm logistratum or hab dreyko are good spots to fish for gunners theres usually a ton

[mighty vault]

But yeah, once you're aware of what you need to do for a penance, just...play the game. The circumstances for it will come up, and you can try, and...most of them aren't really that hard. I think it was literally the first time I'd consciously tried for it when I finally got it. It was on the interrrogator hold-out section before the finale on the roof. All the gunner specials spawn last and zoooop, penance done.

[jagged vessel]

My problem is that I always have 4 elites and never the 5th

[mighty vault]

Nope, you really don't

It's a heresy+ penance, I don't see how you're not seeing big enough spawns literally all the time

[jagged vessel]

I'm not a lucky guy xD
The big spawn is always armored guy :/

And we have only 12 sec haha

[mighty vault]

You want dreg gunners and shotgunners and ragers.

[jagged vessel]

I know

I know

[mighty vault]

You'll have to learn to pick those out over maulers and crushers, then, because they spawn in enormous groups.

[jagged vessel]

I know what i have to do, realy

[mighty vault]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

anyway the only really dumb one is malleus monstronum but it's also easy as hell once you get a team to agree to it

[jagged vessel]

Not an execution problem, but an elite spawn problem for Pick & Mix

[mighty vault]

Heavyweight's like the extra shit version of pick n mix because that kind of spawn just legitimately almost never occurs.

Whereas pick n mix spawns are in pretty much every heresy+ game

except maybe low-intensity

[jagged vessel]

I'm trying all Heresy + i can

Ty to https://darktide.gameslantern.com/mission-board

[mighty vault]

Anything with a holdout is gonna have the requisite elites near the end

[tender terrace]

this stamina peril feat for block is insane for picking up downed enemies

err friendlies

[mighty vault]

Consignment Yard, Enclavum Baross, etc

Comms-Plex

Consignment yard would be good because you have nearly unlimited sightlines.

Just stand on top of the train car on those boxes and you can see every spawn in every direction

[tender terrace]

gotta love when you're playing "normal intensity" and the director wont stop fucking spawning shit after 5 mins of clearing shit and not moving forward

3 teammates dead walking up to them, 2 maulers, 2 gunners, 1 mutant, 1 bomber, 1 flamer, and an entire pack of strikers

k

and shit keeps just spawning from behind

[cyan notch]

whats a striker

[tender terrace]

the lil medium ranged fucks that shoot at close range

[fluid knot]

Scabs

or Dregs

Depends on if they have bullet gun or lasgun, the latter is scabs, the former are dregs

[dawn orchid]

Scab stalker?

[tender terrace]

yeah that

[mighty vault]

...shotgunner?

[tender terrace]

striker, stalker

same thing

[dawn orchid]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/enemies

[tender terrace]

these annoying fucks

[fluid knot]

Its hilarious to me when you get close to one of them little guys as an Ogryn an he pulls out a knife

Like what you gonna do with that son?

[mighty vault]

That does always make me laugh, too

[cyan notch]

dont play ogryn or use kekwogryn in every message cant relate

[mighty vault]

It's getting closer, we should put away our guns

It's honestly a pretty dumb mechanic

Oh you have to close into melee to get people to stop shooting you

Like bro they would just shoot you more

How about give us their cover system or make suppression work instead

[dawn orchid]

Those don't get targeted by the vet talent that's supposed to highlight all shooters btw

[fluid knot]

They really should flee as soon as you get close to em as Ogryn. Do find it a little bit weird how we dont get native suppression just by being close to anything small.. Like shit should actually be terrified of Ogryns in close range

[tender terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-really-gif-24755231

[mighty vault]

Yes they do, tf

[tender terrace]

no they dont

[dawn orchid]

They don't, the normal scabs do

[tender terrace]

they aren't shooters

they are considered hybrid mobs

[mighty vault]

oh thought you said dreg stalkers

which definitely do

[cyan notch]

why ez fat dumb target if anything

[fluid knot]

Yeah afaik there is one enemy that dont show on there despite it having a gun

[tender terrace]

yeah, the one in the screenshot above

[mighty vault]

I wonder if that's a bug?

[fluid knot]

Fat dumb target that weighs a whole ton and can cleave them in half in a second yes

[tender terrace]

allegedly not

[dawn orchid]

Apparently it's an intentional design decision by fatshark, if an extremely dumb one

[mighty vault]

Pretty weird, they DO have guns

[dawn orchid]

They answered a question about it on the forums

Said it was intentional

[mighty vault]

The number of times I've been under a withering hail of gunfire only to activate volley fire and see like nothing on the screen get marked is pretty goofy

[tender terrace]

unsure what you're going on about with ranged swapping to melee in close quarters, the mechanic is honestly extremely well done

[mighty vault]

It makes no sense, sir

[cyan notch]

its just another garbage take by oro

[tender terrace]

provides a great mixture of support between the classes, zealots can get up in faces and force melee swaps while vets can mow down comfortably or support further backline

[mighty vault]

You're not going to put away your shotgun when an ogryn runs up to you so you can pull out your little idiot knife

[tender terrace]

or you can just run through the map with 4 zealots and manage shooters by forcing them to swap

[fluid knot]

It would be, if it wasnt mega inconsistent. Sometimes they will still be shooting whilst you;re cutting lumps outta them

[tender terrace]

ok sure but, in general, the practice works and is good design

[fluid knot]

Though i think thats due to players reaching them together an that overlap causes the code for them to swap to bug out someone said a while back i think

[dawn orchid]

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/sharpshooter-counterfire-feat-inconsistent-in-highlighting-enemies/63963/8

[fluid knot]

It is a good idea yeah, they just gotta make it more consistent

[tender terrace]

nothing better than charging into a pack of non-aggroed shooters and forcing the ENTIRE pack to melee you, keeping them in a nice neat clump for you to just hack them to bits

[dawn orchid]

Strangely those units can and will blow you the fuck up at range including halfway across the map, but apparently not having them be targeted is intentional

[cyan notch]

vet problem dont care

[tender terrace]

then again, shooting a single voidstrike into the pack and deleting them all is probably more satisfying

[dawn orchid]

It's a problem for everyone else because counterfire makes them easy to spot for everyone

[mighty vault]

as well as it being primarily vet's job so making it harder for him makes it harder for everyone

[dawn orchid]

That too

I always take the team highlight, as should everyone

[cyan notch]

trivial just use ur eyes

[tender terrace]

bio optics is useless

[tender terrace]

100%

[mighty vault]

agree tbh

[fluid knot]

Whilst the wallhacks are useful, i dont think its wise for your teammates to wholly rely on it when its active

[dawn orchid]

I disagree

[tender terrace]

i will admit on pskyer bio optics has allowed me to bb some gunners in some very hidey places but

thats highly niche

[mighty vault]

plus it just makes it harder to refresh volley fire when your teammates are shooting all your marked dudes

[tender terrace]

tru

[mighty vault]

Better for them to be shooting scab stalkers or whatever since they apparently don't count

[tender terrace]

its my job as a vet to delete the highlighted enemies, i dont need anyone else focused on them

[dawn orchid]

The amount of awareness bio optics gives to your team regarding shooters and specials is incalculable

[mighty vault]

They still gotta die

[dawn orchid]

Even if it's where to not get shot up

[tender terrace]

give me literally one example where this affects your gameplay on a non vet

you see a group of highlighted things, you do what as a result

[mighty vault]

A person that can't see and process muzzleflashes as a threat

[tender terrace]

LOL

[fluid knot]

Sometimes, if your team doesnt have any spatial or situational awareness (which they often dont) its clutch, but if they do, it loses a lot of its usefulness because they're already aware

[tender terrace]

bright white lights and audio queues are tough for a lot tho i get that

[undone quiver]

Is there a consensus on the voidstrike staff?

[full kite]

diving gunners > waiting 3 minutes for vet to kill them

[tender terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-will-ferrell-awesome-gif-14597941

[full kite]

or even worse vet just doesn't kill them lul

[dawn orchid]

You react appropriately knowing where everything is located, allowing you to fire and take cover accordingly?

[tender terrace]

take cover!? LOL

[dawn orchid]

As well as target the largest masses

[cyan notch]

yea its a staff that shoots balls

[fluid knot]

Yeah what is cover? I only know dive

[tender terrace]

the game is designed for you to run through it

if you're having to take cover you already failed a mechanic

[dawn orchid]

Oh, I didnt see it was sedition gaming hours

[tender terrace]

post mission table

[cyan notch]

here we go again its the lmao u only play x difficulty noob lol!!!

[tender terrace]

like if you dont understand how running through the map and forcing non aggro'd packs into melee is a critical mechanic of the game, then you need to play the game more

[bleak sonnet]

the game is too easy to take cover

just kill the enemies

[fluid knot]

Christ almighty the insecurity in this community smh. "Oh no someone said im a sedition player, better make a snarky response!"

Grow the fuck up lads

[empty basin]

It's a weak and boring response, all it does is show that the individual is a no life sweat

[tender terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-huh-meme-huh-gif-simpsons-meme-simpsons-gif-24537736

[mighty vault]

bruh you can't fault people responding to a goofy fallacy with snark

[fluid knot]

I can fault both sides

[tender terrace]

no it isn't, anyone who puts "higher difficulty" on a pedestal is the exact opposite and shows they struggle at "higher difficulties," while others who may be commenting, do not

[dawn orchid]

If you pay attention to what he said then you'd understand why I said that

[fluid knot]

There is also such a thing as memeing tho

[dawn orchid]

Is he really memeing here?

[fluid knot]

Obviously you have to take cover sometimes

[tender terrace]

not at all

[fluid knot]

Well then yeah, that is indeed a stupid response

[dawn orchid]

Well now you know why I said that

[tender terrace]

bro go play damnation with 4 zealots and tell me to "take cover"

[mighty vault]

I mean he can say what he wants, he either fails loads of missions or he doesn't, only he knows

[cyan notch]

just stick to posting kekw_ogryn ad nauseam

[fluid knot]

[mighty vault]

I'd guess does, but it doesn't make much difference to me lol

[fluid knot]

Ok

[cyan notch]

ratiod

[fluid knot]

Its a bot

Hardly ratiod

[tender terrace]

post mission table, penances, frame, etc

[elfin crystal]

use a gun with suppress

[cyan notch]

hardly ratiod

[fluid knot]

C'mon man, dont be that guy

[empty basin]

post yours and your hour count

[tender terrace]

dodge, coward, terrified, literally shaking in your boots

[cyan notch]

dullard even

[dawn orchid]

I'm too busy fortifying my position

[elfin crystal]

talking of suppress. lucky!

[fluid knot]

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer-40k-gif-18200364

[tender terrace]

328 hours mine is all skulls,

[dawn orchid]

Post pictures and also a cat

[mighty vault]

fortifying my position with piss jugs and figma jars

[empty basin]

So you've spent literally 12 hours a day for the past month playing this game, go outside and take a shower

[fluid knot]

I dont know if you know this... But this is a coop game, stop being inanely competitive dude

[cyan notch]

[tender terrace]

stop @'ing me with your weirdo white knight behavior, this isn't a hippie safe space, and nobody needs your coaching

[mighty vault]

I'd rather take a shower inside, it's cold

[fluid knot]

Dont act like a tool and i wont need to

[cyan notch]

dont really need suppress imo it already does it on kill

[tender terrace]

who are you, the fuckin internet PLUR police

[mighty vault]

both of you stop being pissbabies

[empty basin]

mans mad

[fluid knot]

No, im a massive cunt who will mock your constantly if i feel its deserved, suck it up cupcake

[lucid terrace]

Third world men.

[tender terrace]

i feed off your attention, keep it up

[craggy willow]

Rats only eat if you leave crumbs.

[elfin crystal]

idk, i never really noticed any suppression with it before

[tender terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/1980s-video-games-screaming-danger-hunger-games-gif-12080619

[fluid knot]

Im sure you do, obviously mald is obvious

[craggy willow]

On the other hand, the socially retarded have to learn somehow.

[tender terrace]

keep telling yourself that

[cyan notch]

enemies cowering near the target u killed

[mighty vault]

shut the fuck up, jesus christ. You're both being annoying now.

[fluid knot]

I dont need to pal, its clearly on show

[elfin crystal]

beside, there's not that many other blessings that are that worth it on purg, there's like 5 blessings

[fluid knot]

Awh but im havin fun 😂

[cyan notch]

warp nexus is really good for crits

[elfin crystal]

i,m aware what suppress does, just i've not noticed much before is all i'm saying

[empty basin]

Alright, well that was fun. Anybody else feeling they should rework the special on staffs to be literally anything but melee?

[craggy willow]

Yes

[mighty vault]

No, staff bonk is funny

[tender terrace]

yeah true, this is one of those situations where the other person has to be the "last word" type so i guess i gotta do the bidnus

[elfin crystal]

i'll try to get nexus when the rest of crafting rolls i guess

[elfin crystal]

yes

[empty basin]

Just stop entertaining that individual, his backup isn't here so he's getting corned

[craggy willow]

I blocked the cretin, problem solved.

@tender terrace

[elfin crystal]

at least make the bonk useful then

[craggy willow]

Doesn't add anything of value to conversations from what I've seen, no big loss.

[fluid knot]

I was actually somewhat surprised that we couldnt choose which slot to put staves in, but then we can also bonk people with guns so it kinda makes sense

[mighty vault]

grenade gauntlet is straight up primarily a melee weapon, so why not

[fluid knot]

Well.. Somewhat at least

[cyan notch]

i wouldnt mind it as a quick get off me push but its windup is so slow

[lucid terrace]

What if we had a staff that caused heretics to turn into skateboards? Wouldn’t that be random and goofy?

[empty basin]

Yep, there were all four of them in here yesterday acting tough and attacking individuals, easy block and ignore. The 'I'm better than you' mindset is useless when theirs no one else

[fluid knot]

Apparently it is actually quite effective as a melee weapon, tho ive barely used it as such myself

[tender terrace]

ayo the main character of the channel told me they blocked me, im so sad now

[elfin crystal]

same. it just doesn't do much really

no one really uses it except for like poking dead bodies

[empty basin]

I'd love the staff special to be a channeled BB without having to swap, or they could make them a new 'spell' that psyker can use to gen peril

[cyan notch]

watch them change it into a staff torchlight

YO GUYS ITS USEFYL NOW

[elfin crystal]

make it so you can imbue the staff like withthe force sword and it change the primary and secondary maybe?

[empty basin]

I'd take a AoE light spell that hovers around you

[craggy willow]

Glowing Orb would be pretty based, ngl. The lighting is a little too good sometimes.

[empty basin]

If the datamined subclass says anything, I'd love a channeled ability that is an aoe shield for your team to defend against shooters

[craggy willow]

Assassination bosses get barriers, why can't we?

[empty basin]

Like the force sword talent, I'd love to have a staff that has a radius bullet block for your team

[blissful spade]

does anyone know if you can get another coloured hood for psyker other then red ?

[elfin crystal]

you can

[tender terrace]

weapons shop

[cyan notch]

yea check the hourly shop

[blissful spade]

ahh

oki

[cyan notch]

(theyre terrible)

[empty basin]

I was gonna say premium shop, but that works too

[elfin crystal]

literally the only thing available lol tho

[tender terrace]

the black one with the face covering aint bad tbh

[blissful spade]

hope they add more stuff tbh

[elfin crystal]

likewise

[tender terrace]

why would they do that when you can spend money to buy cooler ones?

[empty basin]

New premium store rotation next week

[elfin crystal]

i just wish they fix the last 2 penances, they are ball busting lvl of unfun and the only cosmetic helmet i like that isn,t a toilet is behind them

[empty basin]

[gilded viper]

I want melee psyker with force gauntlets

[craggy willow]

That emote is so good. I can hear the music through it.

[mighty pike]

Hello fellow gun psykers

[fluid knot]

Greetings

[elfin crystal]

one day little one. one day

[full kite]

im playing with 3 vets

[craggy willow]

I'm sorry.

[gilded viper]

Malleus is a matter of getting a premade and slowly whittle down the boss

[full kite]

this is somehow the easiest and hardest game

cause we struggle vs poxwalkers but nothing else

[mighty pike]

https://tenor.com/view/prayers-gif-25386860

[elfin crystal]

yeah pick & mix is the annoying one

[full kite]

I died stunning a mutie in a poxwalker horde

love this

[tender terrace]

they didn't have power swords??

[fluid knot]

I might be on later to actually help people out with the Malleus penance, its a bit bogus an i feel bad that one class has such utterly bullshit penances. Will post in here if im Ogryn'ing laters

[gilded viper]

Pick n Mix tho. All I can suggest is do the Chasm Station Assassination start, look for 5 gunner elites, if it's something else, just restart the mission till rng works out

[mighty vault]

Literally just play the game lmao

[mighty pike]

For me? 🤔

[gilded viper]

Annoying Penances, probably best penace gear of the 4 classes

[fluid knot]

If you want the help, sure 🙂 I'll help anyone out if they need it an i have the time

[elfin crystal]

nah don't worry about it. i have a group of friends that play fairly often. will probably just do it quickly at some point with them. save someone else instead thanks for the offer tho

[full kite]

only one is pulling out

it's the funniest shit

[tender terrace]

fuckin wild man

[elfin crystal]

wil try that actually

[full kite]

one is literally using bolter vs poxwalkers

[full kite]

2 bolter 1 plasma

this shit is so funny

[tender terrace]

why is "im shooting ammo at things that dont shoot back at me" such a massive problem in the game, makes no sense

[cyan notch]

why use sword when gun kill goodly

[violet thorn]

what diff?

[full kite]

heresy hunting grounds

[gilded viper]

If I had to guess, vets hog ammo so much and people are annoyed by it

[tender terrace]

does any gun kill 12 unarmored in a single swing in a 180 degree arc

[mighty pike]

Cause you need them to be either shooting ammo at the things that are shooting back or saving their ammunition for the things later that are shooting back

[mighty vault]

I mean if they don’t run out I don’t give a fuck, just makes them look bad at the game

[tender terrace]

wait what

[fluid knot]

Yeah i wont hear complaints about my meagre ammo usage as gunpsyker when vets are running bolters tbh, i'll just read the complaint and then pick up every ammo pack even if i dont need it 😂

[gilded viper]

None of the melee enemies are super dangerous or annoying except maybe bulwarks. Getting gunned down is a constant threat to your team, which is why people tend to save their bullets for ranged enemies

[craggy willow]

Sounds more like a personal problem than a massive one

Only poop vets do that

[mighty vault]

So pretty much all of them, yes

[tender terrace]

but like, normies don't, i see people shooting las guns into unarmored hordes all the time

super

one shot every like 1 second, into a massive crowd of like 150 enemies lol

[mighty vault]

Honestly putting their gun away when there are active shooters on the screen so they can run into the wall of flamer fire and steal power sword kills is the bigger problem imo

[violet yoke]

Maybe they just like shooting people in the pee pee

[gilded viper]

Randoms gonna random. I run Purge staff and if I need to will just bb the ranged elites, pugs can't shoot the melee if there is no melee

[mighty vault]

Like sir your job is incomplete, it is not power sword poxwalker time

[mighty pike]

Sometimes I want to play veteran and be useful as one and then I recall how boring their voice selection is

[tender terrace]

my vet dont talk much, its nice

[fluid knot]

Ngl, brauto rampages do look fun on Vet, but then i'd be playing Vet an thats just kinda icky

[tender terrace]

brauto vet is peak gameplay

[mighty pike]

Brauto?

[tender terrace]

but, it requires a lot of push forward

[fluid knot]

Braced Autogun

[full kite]

wish I was gunpsyker instead of lightning psyker rn

I could steal all their ammo

[gilded viper]

Surge is boring, embrace arson

or bullets too I suppose

[lucid terrace]

Trauma is the best.

[gilded viper]

Trauma is fine, but I feel awkward aiming it

[frail inlet]

Arson is yes

[fluid knot]

supposedly its the worst staff, but its the most appealing one to me i wont lie lol

[full kite]

I have defaulted myself to surge staff

[tender terrace]

voidstrike is pretty fuckin insane as a staff

[fluid knot]

Big booms are fun

[gilded viper]

I don't think any of the staves are bad, I just like pretty blue arson

[frail inlet]

Traumas aoe interruption effect is awesome

[tender terrace]

i want to try trauma with rending

[mighty pike]

This is the only unique looking psyker I have ever seen

[full kite]

😄

[tender terrace]

i think you can get what up to +8 rending

on trauma?

[craggy willow]

Drippy as fuck

[gilded viper]

If only trauma applied brittleness, be a cool support psyker with it

[full kite]

im dead rn and spectating them cause I blew up 🤡

but they're losing to a sniper

this is so funny

[cyan notch]

yea cuz the aiming and range is shit

[mighty pike]

https://tenor.com/view/bay-yanlis-mr-wrong-can-yaman-ozgur-atasoy-amused-gif-19072725

I may actually play darktide

[tender terrace]

the ol' "BB IS USELESS thats what a vet is for!" bait

[full kite]

AHAHAHAH

im fu cking dying

poxwalker horde

all 3 panice caus spamming light attack with power sword charge instead of heavy special

1 gets trapped

1 dies to mobs

1 dodges off the ledge

fucking love this game

[tender terrace]

charged light attack is fine

create some space with a few light attacks then swing wide after that

[gilded viper]

I've dodged off ledges before as zealot, especially that one at the start of Chasm Assassination

[full kite]

but they dont use charge heavy

[gilded viper]

I hate that bridge

[full kite]

ahahah 10/10 loss

[tender terrace]

well ok thats dumb, how have they not figured out you literally regain your entire toughness bar

basically invincible in a horde with a psword

[gilded viper]

We're talking about vet players here @tender terrace

Lower your expectations

[full kite]

seriously just push -> dodge back and charge at the same time then start heavy cycle if you need space

then heavy special spam provides space

[tender terrace]

i prob played vet for like 100 hrs+

got bored cause vet is way too easy

[mighty pike]

Incomparable mind

[gilded viper]

Yes but it's the "vanilla" class, no mechanics, no needing to get into melee, just shoot, so it's got the largest population of stupid idiots

I don't expect much, but if they can make the shooters go away they're fine in my book

[tender terrace]

brauto vet best vet, melee range shooter, kills fastest, embrace inner rambo

[fluid knot]

It is overpowered by design, its so people who arent familiar with horde shooters can have an easy time and arent driven away by how much they have to manage at any given time

[full kite]

meanwhile melee combat is the most fun part of darktide imo

me zealot main

[gilded viper]

People really need to use their shove more

[tender terrace]

actually agree, i prob have the most fun on my zealot swangin' the taxe

[full kite]

no think only left click spam heavy sword op

[tender terrace]

something about charging heavy strikes of an axe into mobs' faces is just... satisfying

[gilded viper]

I guess I outa try the braced autogun if I pick up my Sharpshooter again, haven't really played em since I got to 30

[tender terrace]

here's some motivation for you

[mighty pike]

Braced autogun is surprisingly effective at range too. But I feel like playing vet and taking the autogun is the most underwhelming build, considering alternatives

[mighty pike]

Vet gameplay is so strange

[tender terrace]

if you look at the buffs tacks those are all 25% toughness regen stacks

basically god

[gilded viper]

That hipfire accuracy is insane, unless you're holding right click and I'm just being an idiot

[tender terrace]

nope not holding right click

[gilded viper]

damn

[tender terrace]

right click looks like < . >

you mostly hipfire on brauto

only time you really right click is like if things are maybe 30-40m out

crouch right click unload

[craggy willow]

All those leg/center of mass shots 🤢

[mighty pike]

Vet actually makes it look like a point and click adventure game

[tender terrace]

responding to Blocked User 1 Message 🤮

[mighty pike]

You're a funny man widget

[tender terrace]

this brings up a good point, though - the best thing about brauto is you dont need to aim anywhere in particular, which is high value

you just shoot

[gilded viper]

Wait so Vet's elite kill toughness regen stacks but not Psyker's Warp Essence, wtf man.

[tender terrace]

is it the same mechanic tho

the vet is 25% immediate, 25% over time

[fluid knot]

Think they meant it was me who they blocked pal

[gilded viper]

Warp charge gained so no

[tender terrace]

nah its me, you can test by reacting to their text

[mighty vault]

Hahaha

[fluid knot]

Ah reet, idk how discord works properly, am luddite

[craggy willow]

I definitely blocked Widget. He seems behaved now, so. 🤷‍♀️

[fluid knot]

Aye fairy muff

[tender terrace]

the most hilarious and cringe part about "lol i blocked u on discord" is the messages don't go away so they just read this wall of text of Blocked User - 1 Message, and it's a guarantee if they are that fragile, they've blocked a lot of people

[mighty pike]

I can't imagine blocking someone on discord

[craggy willow]

My screen, I get to choose what's on it. Simple as.

[tender terrace]

its pretty funny

[mighty pike]

I can't see this because you're blocked sorry

[mighty vault]

I block people that seem to fixate on me because they don’t get jokes

[tender terrace]

reacted, maury determined this was a lie

[fluid knot]

Ive blocked people on here before, but thats because they were literally spamming everyone pings every 20s and i just cant handle someone who is that much of a doofus

[cyan notch]

well ur name is doofus too

[fluid knot]

Yes.

[tender terrace]

i think maybe ive blocked like a handful of people on any internet anything in my entire life and only for this purpose, when people get WAY too fixated even after you've completely stopped engaging with them, but they still keep going

or start hitting you with the violence threats

[mighty vault]

It just stops being fun when they clearly don’t get it and are just responding to everything you say with angry smarm when you’re not even talking to them

[fluid knot]

Ah yes the good old "Im gonna find you IRL an batter you" posts They're fuckin hilarious

[tender terrace]

yeah like that @fluid knot guy complaining about the obvious meme of "post mission table, penance, frame"

unlucky

[mighty pike]

I've only ever seen people from.tbe north of England use "batter" this way

[mighty vault]

Uh oh doxxed

[fluid knot]

'Cept thats people looking to flex how little life they actually have really tho innit..

[tender terrace]

yeah that's the meme, bud

[dawn orchid]

Oh boy it's still going

[tender terrace]

only in your own little world is this factual

[dawn orchid]

Wat

[fluid knot]

Shhhh

[mighty pike]

Position identified. Prepare for battering

[tender terrace]

it is interesting here tho, feels like the EU folks don't understand the overt american sarcasm, but maybe thats a hot take

[mighty pike]

I've also not met a northerner who isn't a master level troll. That helps

[mighty pike]

Maybe it's actually the eu folks find it comically extreme

[craggy willow]

Real? Anywhere in N. England that's a good tourist spot? I'd love to meet these folks.

[fluid knot]

Ironic, most EU people think Americans are the ones who dont understand/fail to use sarcasm correctly

[tender terrace]

idk tho, a lot of people take whats said too much at face value a lot of the time

[mighty pike]

Leeds

[tender terrace]

life's a lot easier when you read everything as a meme first, brush it off, then engage further

[mighty pike]

On line you have to pick your battles

[tender terrace]

prob block a lot less people, too

[violet thorn]

Me when anglo's talk about bants then get buttmad when you bant

[mighty pike]

Perhaps there are multiple types of banter and they don't mesh well

[violet thorn]

thats fair enough

[mighty pike]

I do think sometimes there's a rift because UKers and Americans do engage differently online

[tender terrace]

maybe it's just the WH crowd

very fragile at times

[craggy willow]

The internet is the worst place to express your anger at the world.

[gilded viper]

I wish I had a tall mountain to scream off of nearby, that sounds nice.

[violet thorn]

its the influx of new people coming into a very old internet group

[tender terrace]

rather it be done online than the typical release you see on the news cycle in america

[fluid knot]

Nah not really, some of my best online pals are from across the pond an they're lovely folks. Its just not everyone is gonna get on with everyone else, just how human nature is really tbh

[tender terrace]

yeah true, a lot of people wouldn't have been able to handle the diablo 2 town guard pvp days

[mighty pike]

I agree. Though I have never really got the same sense of humour as any Americans I've seen so there may still be a cultural component

[violet thorn]

or even /tg/ tbh

its a real culture shock

[tender terrace]

the good ol early /r9k/ days

fuck im boomed out

[fluid knot]

Maybe a little bit, but that cultural component is generally pretty small, maybe differences in humor an the like, but if someone is a decent person and not an egotistical POS i'll enjoy their company no matter where they come from, cultural differences be damnned

[mighty pike]

Never trust a man who's spent time on 4chan

[mighty vault]

how about all you gunpsykers shut the fuck up for a minute and put your lil knife away

[mighty pike]

Now THIS is an example of the above

[violet thorn]

people forget that was the thing before reddit became mainstream for these hobbies

[mighty vault]

wait which above

[fluid knot]

Shoots autogun into ceiling

[mighty pike]

Also I'm around to help anyone with Malleus Monstrous or whatever it's called also

[mighty vault]

monstronum

[mighty pike]

Thanks

[violet thorn]

Monsanto

[mighty vault]

Mountain Dew

[mighty pike]

Not in the garden of Nurgle, please

[violet thorn]

Malleus Montana

[fluid knot]

We found it lads! We found how to combat Nurgle! Someone put in a call to Monsanto! (I dont think they actually exist anymore tho)

[mighty pike]

Oh it is. 2018 it was acquired by Bayer

https://tenor.com/view/kto-kounotori-kounotoritoken-lbow-storkholders-gif-25676483

[fluid knot]

Ahhh gotcha, thats what happend to it, i knew there was some change but couldnt remember offhand what it was

[mighty pike]

https://tenor.com/view/notting-hill-hugh-grant-thats-umm-perfect-gif-15350552

[fluid knot]

Thats pretty fuckin funny no lie

[idle shuttle]

whens rebless

[mighty pike]

Not yet. We'll let you know when it arrives

[magic hull]

mr worldwide

[fluid knot]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-worldwide-gif-26368506

[magic hull]

diversity is my middle name

[violet yoke]

"Comming soon!"

[fluid knot]

If videogames have taught me anything over the years its that we're all pink and fleshy when hit with an explosive

[magic hull]

agent 47 wen he murder everyone regardless of race

hol on lemme make a meme

[mighty pike]

https://tenor.com/view/bear-sits-down-chair-gif-23521936

[silver pagoda]

So uh... this looks ok - I assume I should reroll damage from infested to crit chance?

[mighty pike]

Hooray a max rolls weapon

[fluid knot]

Glorious 11/10

[ornate hamlet]

What if you play all the classes?

[magic hull]

psyker mood 24/7

[fluid knot]

Imagine the human skull, but with a massive braincase

[magic hull]

this u

[mighty vault]

385
lol

[magic hull]

its bug

[mighty pike]

What would be interesting would be a subclass that uses peril as a resource to use abilities. Like a super-crazy one where you want high peril

[ornate hamlet]

No, I don't have a brain.

[mighty vault]

I know

[mighty pike]

https://tenor.com/view/elden-ring-frenzy-madness-balrick-gif-25041201

[magic hull]

i have 385 staff bug asswell fatdhark pls dont delet

[silver pagoda]

it's a bug?

[magic hull]

ye

[fluid knot]

Yeah the extra 5 points arent divvied up in stat bars

[mighty vault]

It adds up to 380

which is the max

[fluid knot]

At least till they add the potential for red weapons then they might get added in, we dont know yet

[idle shuttle]

call me when it does. at any time

[craggy willow]

Dat me. Eventually.

2/4 classes capped. It's FFXIV all over again.

[fluid knot]

Yep same, almost got Zealot up to 30, then only Vet left

[magic hull]

i wish i have the time to grind levels on this game

sadly i am in pain everytime i play

[silver pagoda]

suffering is how we honor the emprah

[fluid knot]

My guy get a better gaming chair

sorry that was in poor taste, i genuinely hope you're not suffering

[dawn orchid]

Gaming chairs are doodoo

[magic hull]

soent them all on wh minis now im broke

[magic hull]

true, office chairs best

[fluid knot]

Hot take, they're the same chairs 😂

Just one is more expensive because marketing

[mighty vault]

and RGB

[magic hull]

gaming chair is basically racing car seat

[mighty pike]

I kinda agree but actually gaming chairs can often be materially worse

[fluid knot]

Oh true, RGB

[magic hull]

isk who came up with the idea of attach car seats as gaming chair

[mighty vault]

and yeah gaming chairs are gonna be chinese racecar seats made out of recycled packing peanuts and sawdust lol

[mighty pike]

Gaming chairs are the... Madkatz of chairs

[fluid knot]

Yeah never understood why people wanted a bucket seat to play games, thats gotta be mega uncomfortable

[magic hull]

i want my f-22 raptor pilot gaming seat as gaming chair with full ejector capability at mach right now

[fluid knot]

The hole in your ceiling might be an expensive fix

[magic hull]

its a feature

[mighty vault]

Not your problem at that point

[wet jacinth]

I flex my 1-3 yr old toddler seat 9000

[fluid knot]

Arguably not that is true 😂

Or not your biggest problem at the very least lol

[wet jacinth]

When you see a eye looking through the hole

👁️

[mighty vault]

Trap spider

[forest wing]

[sonic aspen]

people who don't use ergonomic office chairs are psychos

[forest wing]

[fluid knot]

If you dont slav squat on a bare floor when playing games you're not MLG in my eyes smh

[covert valve]

Nice straff what did u roll?

[sonic aspen]

if you do that you may turn russian

and go play tarkov or Dota 2

[magic hull]

no i don wan tarkov anymore pls

[fluid knot]

There are many slavic countries that arent russian 😂

[elfin roost]

As a certified high peril psyker theyre switched

[magic hull]

enough pain

[sonic aspen]

but Russians are the meme

[long wharf]

there's only one "gaming" chair that's worth the cost, and that's Maxnomic

[craggy willow]

What if you're a skinny legend that squats on their chair?

[fluid knot]

Cor i hadnt thought of that.. Thats some next level shit right there.. 😂

[long wharf]

that said, I much prefer my expensive office chair for sitting at a desk

[silver pagoda]

almost perfect crit staff

[fluid knot]

Yeah but we should endevour to change that, because you know...

[sonic aspen]

true

[long wharf]

what perk did you roll off?

[craggy willow]

Because it's not fair that ruskies get all the glory. Other slavs are just as funny, if not moreso.

[silver pagoda]

damage to infested enemies

[long wharf]

alright

[wet jacinth]

[long wharf]

that's a very nice staff, though if it were possible, I'd swap crit and charge rate values

[silver pagoda]

yeah charge rate could be better but warp flurry does help with that

[long wharf]

no it doesn't

warp flurry is uselss on surge

[silver pagoda]

eh... isn't the secondary attack the lightning?

[long wharf]

sure is

[abstract cedar]

It is

[long wharf]

warp flurry is effectively broken

[silver pagoda]

um, ok, but how?

[long wharf]

because the window for "chaining" secondary attacks is about a third of a second, too short for the lengthy surge animation

[mighty pike]

meh?

[abstract cedar]

Has that been tested?

[covert valve]

Yeah the animation is too long to take effect. but funny thing is the lightning staff starts a bit charged already for some reason idk why do you @long wharf

[long wharf]

extensively

[long wharf]

no idea

[silver pagoda]

ah, well that's lame, but hopefully they'll fix it (some day)

[long wharf]

maybe some day

[silver pagoda]

66% charge is still pretty good, it'd only get about 0.2 seconds faster at higher

[long wharf]

sure

it's not bad

just not what I'd prefer, but it doesn't make the staff worthless by any measure

[silver pagoda]

do you know if the crit stat increases crit chance of the lightning?

[long wharf]

yep

you can inspect the staff and see the crit numbers by hovering over the modifier

[silver pagoda]

yeah it's a bit confusing still