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the problem was that two veterans thought they were impervious to gunfire and walked into LOTS of gunfire
pog we are now mage-gunners
and the staff still crits on its normal lighting
They're also known for killing things quicker than a 9 sec BB, and if you're getting killed through an ogryn then chances are hiding and praying for BB to finish its long ass casting speed doesnt make much difference than finding cover and shooting
I definitely want to build crit around the worst projectile in the game, while I'm thinking about it
fuck the vets they can keep their ammo
yes
aww yeah one shot everything
what was that one force sword blessing... Bloodlust or something
buttlust
I could actually easily do that, which isnt something i had previously considered, got a revvy with it on
But that does mean using revvy and im not sure how i feel about that
If you're starving for ammo on Gun Psyker, you are using your gun too much. Melee and BB doesn't cost ammo. Bullets are for mutants, dogs, trappers, flamers, and bombers. Shooting anything else is suplus ammo use you can avoid if you need to
Revolver can't build 100% crit, it's like per missing bullet.
Err, it definitely isn't percent missing
Bloodthirsty isnt limited to Force Swords iirc, if thats the one you're referring to
unless they changed that
so the description's just wrong?
here we go again
shit oro
If you've got 2 vets stealing all the ammo, lean on BB and melee a bit more. If you've got an overwhelming surplus of bullets no one is taking, start blasting away like the 4th of July
its 2 stacks per shot on reovlver
Typical
do not read the description
its why people thought there was a crit chance cap
Ragers an Maulers is my go to to piss bullets into tbh, because going toe to toe with them in melee as psyker suuuuucks
Fair enough, didn't know that
my favorite fatshark moment
i can never go back to gun psyker after the dopamine rush that is voidstrike
is if you're playing with a zealot and your toughness keeps regenning to full
just thank fatshark
You can force push them mid combo if your timing is perfect and it's one rager. For maulers, backdodging and BB works if your gun is outta ammo
ive been doing crit void strike on my psyker
I melee Maulers, I find the swings pretty easy to dodge unless it's a mauler pack, and Ragers are a 1 hit with charged warp sword and buffs up.
but i need a perfect roll void strike staff with soulblaze on crit and crit per peril
and cant get it

but i goit a 4% shred axe
DANG DARKMASS GOT MELKIES
pew pew gunpsyker op
HELL YEAH
I would think that for a crit Voidstrike build you would want Surge as at least one of your blessings
the funny thing about voidstrike is tho
I dont use force sword though
I can deal with them mano el mano without any problems, but if you do take a hit on higher settings that shit hurts so i'd rather avoid it altogether
the soublaze blessing seems pretty underwhelming
probably i just like the blue fire
I can respect using bullets on Ragers and Maulers tho. If you are mag dumping into a horde of poxwalkers with an autogun or kantrel you're just doing it wrong
Yeah Staff Psykers can be our CC pets and gunpsykers are where the big dick damage come into play
but the funny thing about the void strike staff
is that the void strike left click has great crit multi
but the charged shot... doesnt

different kind of void i guess
so the left click spam dps goes up dreamatically
I mean its pretty but the ability to one-shot crit Crushers shouldnt be shrugged off
Yeah that's fair. I run Chainsword too, deflector can be a crutch if you overly depend on it so I like to switch it up
I hate having to babysit staff psykers sometimes tbh
They call us Gunker cause we make gunk out of everything in the field with our massive and impressive firepower
Yeah thats peak dumb dumb, actually there is one situation where its somewhat acceptable and thats if a horde is coming round a corner because for whatever reason they seem to want to do that in single file. Dunno why, but yeah
i literalliy just want it because it makes a ripple of fire
thats about as far as i have the build planned
i've seen hordes literally all jump over a 2 feet by 2 feet table when they could go around on either side
Except a stream of purgatus fire would be better there too
Yeah true, Ive still not gelled with Chainsword yet myself, any insights?
is it a bug that my cosmetics page has a notification next to it, when I very much do not have something new?
they all landed on the ground, lying down. made the horde much easier
Yeah that happens a lot too 
AI pathing is kinda odd in this title
We let our pet CC psyker with their taser sticks stun the enemies while we do the real damage
Surge should have a blessing that makes enemies explode when they die
I play surge psyker but damn every time I see elites and specials I make them my bitch but then like 5 groaners or poxwalkers walk by and Im like shit team halp
or I take 10 seconds to kill these fuckers instead of doing muh job
Lucky for you I always carry an axe
Thats why you should pair Surge staff with a cleaving weapon rather than Force Sword
oooo.... 375 voidstrike staff in my shop...
I love how bad the animation is for the surge staff. Looking like a mix between palpatine and a preying mantis
FS can cleanup a few nerds without issue anyway
but the damage rolled a 59%....
Force Sword is a great weapon with lots of utility and elite-killing potential, but the passive quell + horde clear on a good mk.5 axe is a great pairing with Surge
what's the surge blessing btw i can't remember them off the top of my head
yeah it's just annoying killing 1-2 things at a time
into the trash
You hit twice when you crit
Me neither
das dope
It's ultra rare
It literally isnt even on gameslantern and other similar sites
because i was looking at the lua
and i was wondering which weapons got double shot on crit

now i know
yeah I already have a 355 voidstrike that's better than the shop one, so whatever
so yeah definitely that with crit per peril. they should just have a feat in the tree that gives u soulblaze on crit anyway its fun
things should be green
Yeah it's pretty cool to just literally have no access to things sometimes because of RNG, haha
what a good system to build your game around
The problem is that blessings like Surge and Power Cycler only spawn in at T4, so the only way to get one is through Melk, consecraton, or an insanely lucky emperor's gift
- Practice CS using a Purge Staff and the build 3/2/1/2/1/3 rather than with the gun because it's less forgiving.
- Horde clear with Block > Push > Heavy > Heavy > Light > Light > Repeat
- Single Target clear with Block > Push > Activate > Light > Heavy
I'm also reasonably certain they nerfed rank 3 blessing rates in the store at some point.
I got all my best shit in the weeks before and immediately after launch, with just pure garbage since
Dunno that i'll use purga as i have the melee out most of the time anyway, but i will try those attack chains, thanks bud 🙏
Yep, you have to go to Sire Bilk to look for rank 3/4 blessings consistently
Pretty much the only reason I would spend weekly tokens is for his potential blessings, since his actual inventory is consistently really bad
scrip farming going well
Well yeah, I think the only reason anyone buys melk stuff is to peel off the blessings later
hopefully, anyway
working as intended
Although I did get a pretty sweet PSYKERKNIFE from the requisitorium once
Keeps the game perpetuated. I am almost certain they’re going to bring a mechanic where people can swipe for better RNG
I hope so, then I can quit with no regrets
Once you get the player-skill stuff and figure out if you like it, +% to flak armour or infested depending if you wanna focus on elites or horde clear with it, and then add either +1 stam or +15/20 Block Eff to round it out.
It’s a loss we will all feel, friend.
Yeah block efficiency aint a bad shout tbh. Gotta be flak though 100%, so many enemies come under that branch
Joking aside I hope they tighten the belt on some of the random generated elements. I wonder how the hadron blessing combination system will work
+3 Wounds and +15% Block Efficiency 4 lyfe
Yeah, the CS has enough block value naturally that you don't have to peril block with it. I actually have 2 different chainswords I use for peril block vs stam block builds.
It's just 3 for 1 of the next rank up
Question.. Does block efficiency decrease peril buildup should you run both?
opinion on this staff?
uhhh
That is a spark plug
Yes, I recall someone on here tested and found Block Eff does reduce the peril generated by blocking.
I honestly had no idea damage could go into the single digits tbh
stun 'em real good
Less than lethal option right there
interesting
Someone got on my ass because I hadn't done testing with a 0% roll yesterday
First I'd heard of anything rolling below 30%
does the V on missions just mean its easier
Really good for your Darktide pacifist playthrough
I'd pick it up cause I don't expect myself to do much damage with surge anyway and hope teammates are smart enough to kill things I stun
but im newbie psyker
Sure does good damage to things with metal hats, though
Low intensity means less enemies in general
yeah so like just easier?
20 minutes hab dreyko is up. gonna be grinding the first area to try and get pick n mix. would be great if anyone joined so the bots stop killing the elites - steam code in name
high quell speed is nice for spamming lightning at 90%+
does it give you less money or something?
and high charge rate
Oddly it gives you more
whatt hows that work wtf
Yeah definitely easier. For people who want the rewards, the enemies, but don’t wanna do the higher levels
It counts as a special circumstance/modifier which gives you plus rewards
They’re almost always worth it just for the rewards and the memes
They do get pretty boring, though
Unless you’re a surge staff psyker, then it’s usually tough enough
Now, just to be clear, the same person who claimed they tested this also said they found that there is a benefit to just having more stam over pure block eff. So it'll be up to you to find that balance. My one build I have +1 stam on the CS and then 30% block eff via 15x2 curio perks, the other I run peril block and only run 20% block eff and no extra stam.
I'm happy for you, or sorry that happened.
I cant stand Low Intensity, Id rather just play a difficulty lower if it's the only option, especially if there's a high intensity mission available in that tier.
Yeah i'll have to take a look at that, thanks for the insight mate, appreciate it 🙏 Good lookin out
All good in the psychic hood mate.
fatshark fix my +9 stamina build

Cardiopsyker = KICK
can't kick me if you can't catch me
Low heresy seems to be like a regular malice in some runs, except with more rewards and cooler mobs imo
Bruh my biggest complaint for psyker is how they move like they all have cardiovascular disease compared to other classes
Cooler mobs? Does something not spawn in malice that does in heresy?
Yeah better players
The main advantage is that I can clear faster and work on weeklies while I kill time for a better mission to pop up
you got it backwards
Ordo Dockets and experience arent really important for me anymore
All the gunpsykers and scrublords flock to heresy to do penances
At least they have the fastest stamina regen delay even if they have lower max stamina 😞
And by "do penances," I mean beg to be carried while they do stupid shit and don't participate
void staff is so fun
I'm looking at the crafting code and there's code for extracting both "perks" and "traits" from weapons and replacing them
i switch between surge and void and i just love void
the fact that you can slide spam on dueling sword 5 and regen to 100% stamina each time is hilarious to me
Aren't the names reversed and perks are what blessings are actually called?
I wish I was better with void. Like I can do it, but I just don't feel that comfortableness needed to bring it to heresy+ yet
but it's still two different things you can extract
doesn't make much sense with perk rerolling though
Yeah, refining would be the trait change, right?
Or what do you mean extract, saves the variable in another inventory somewhere so you can re-apply it?
extract_perk_from_weapon, extract_trait_from_weapon, replace_trait_in_weapon, replace_perk_in_weapon, reroll_perk_in_item, fuse_traits
yes that is extracting
Oh, idk, maybe they just copy-pasted it so would be available if they decided to implement it at some point
"Fuse traits" 
possibly
fusing is just the blessing combining thing they talked about
Fuse traits is what I was telling you.
I know it's just great to see it twice
cause it's probably able to extract and place any blessing on any weapon
I managed to get the penance about bursting 5 elites
Combine 3 rank 1s to get a rank 2
I got a really good recon las with burn dot
Are you implying that the crafting system is incomplete, sir? 🤔
damn let me finish
I killed Rager with 4 sec
Also it seems unlikely you'll be able to bless a weapon with a type that can't roll on it naturally
i think it helps that ive been using void since i unlocked it early level. Something that a lot of people seem to overlook about void is that it doesnt explode on impact of enemy, only on impact with terrain. This makes it insane in tight hallways or if long hordes are coming at you, as you can just take down enemies by the row
You mean I cant put bleed on my purgatus? ;_;
I hope my sharpshooter character have this thing
Someone else was saying that shit earlier, like this ain't binding of isaac
interesting.... did not know that about the impact/blast.
There's no way they're gonna do the testing necessary to make everything work with everything somehow
Infernus on a recon las is a lot of fun, yes.
Imagine soulblaze on infernus rifle on psyker. Checkmate, ableists
Its really useful to know, I didnt know about it for a while either. If you see a small bunched up group of enemies you'll always want to aim at their legs to trigger the explosion of the staff, if theres a big group you want to shoot threw them
Maybe when the gunpsyker subclass comes out
That very likely explains my misplay with it tbh.
The random brain-burst as a result of non warp weapon is good
For completing my penance
I tried that for 3 days
Wait you didn't? Heretic Bowlng with Voidstrike projectile is like the voidstrike's biggest strength tbh
You can just tear long streaks through hordes
Better yet, with Transfer Peril you can have effectively unlimited usage as long as you aim for the head
I mean yes, but I didn't realize the explosion was on terrain. I really only used the voidstrike for a while when I was leveling up and not much since because I just felt it was weak. But that information kinda makes me understand why it was a problem
It was more I didn't understand how to use it than an issue with the weapon
Ahh I see. Yeah its on impact and deals 12-30 damage or so depending on how close the enemies are
pick n mix is making me wanna kms. its my last one
it's not great outside of staggering
it's easy but you can't really force it. Just play the game.
Felt like it just "randomly" exploded sometimes, cus I didn't get how to forcibly trigger it, cus I didn't realize to aim for the floor
is this only melee/physical attacks or do all attacks count
Or just any doorway since Voidstrike has serious collision issues with most of them 😛
All attacks
Even BB
Bullets trigger it too. As do staff blasts as well
Honestly most of these penances seem designed so that you just get them naturally after playing a lot of the class, but people get all twisted up in trying to cheese them and get it as soon as humanly possible they ruin the game for themselves
Seems pretty good, sadly all of the feats in that row seem amazing
Can you blame them when there are barely any cosmetics in the game that arent prem.
Yes and no, really.
It's a first person game but a lot of people are weirdly "unlock" oriented.
Reskins do not count as unique models
I find the lvl 25 perks to be some of the weaker ones honestly.
true but i think the 90% dmg on brainburst on a monster would probably not happen naturally..
Like the game is not fun for them at all outside of "unlocking" the next thing
It seems like a clutch situation.
Im not unlock oriented, I just like to look good.
Flayer is really good for Warp Charge longevity. For elite kills it works better if you're using a weapon that targets relatively fewer enemies or gives you more control over which ones you're hitting
Something that would eventually likely happen on a higher difficulty once you played a lot of psyker
Warp Battery is only good in builds that also use Communion, Kinetic Overload is just awful cus you can't control what it targets, and Flayer falls off really hard in damnation because BB doesn't deal enough damage to kill the target most of the time so you don't get a warp charge.
Although I think that was also likely conceived around old brainburst values, since using nothing but BB now is kind of stupid
I am currently using combat knife. But it is hard to clear trash somehow
Should I stick with force sword?
Warp battery is a great example of something that will just happen if you just play
As soon as consignment yard went live, I got it without trying in the finale
Got some KF2 flashback
I suspect enclavum baross would be similarly simple
Yeah, like I use it on my Purgatus Build, cus 6 stack AB ults are just a literal horde killdozer
I thought kinetic targets elites
Wait, are we talking about the penance or a feat?
I mean the penance. If that's not the name of the 5 minute full stacks one, my bad
Your argument for flayer makes sense but I feel like overload seems pretty good
also whats the best level 30 feat
yes, but you don't control which elite it goes on. And 4 stacks by itself really isn;t much damage to an elite. Need multiple applications to have any real effect

Not Quicken. the other two are great depending what you want. KB for BB chains, AB for horde killdozer.
Quicken definitely seems pretty bad
Psyker is for when you want to have Warp Battery but not Warp Battery, Mind Over Matter but not Mind over Matter, and use Psykinetic's Wrath but not Psykinetic's Wrath
you posted to flex, so I will judge. first one you got help from team so its easy af, the other two you can get at first game at lvl 1 anyway
is wrack and ruin any good or no
Absolutely true
When Malleus Monstronum used to be 100% hp
How would my fellow Psykers feels if BB got reworked to be a channeled cast that did high damage over time, but you could continue channeling damage on that target until a.) it dies or b.) you reach max peril and have to stop channeling. Could maybe even allow for ult use to not break BB channel for extra monster damage.
also how can a pysker infinite block a daemon host
Sounds like a cool ability.
Non-force weapon. Use kinetic deflection
on damnation you'll need to do plenty of dodging, at least if you don't go full bcr and stamina
Absolute garbage. Just basically pretend it doesn't exist until they buff it.
I would like it as a feat so you can play both sides
Seems like a good way to trigger a Daemonhost if someone kills your target and it skips to it
I use kinetic barrage
The target dying would stop the cast, you'd have to pick a new target to start channeling again
I think it needs more of a rework rather than a buff. It can become broken really easily if they just add more stacks and make the AOE wider.
Warp absorption seems really good for crowd control, is it better then quietitude
Make The Daemon Host Inflict burning.
okay, whose private parts do I need to place on/in/around my face in order to get some help testing multiple psyker AB shenanigans?
Then it would be workable. IMHO I would like it if they just brought back the full CC on channeling from the closed beta
I went Warp Absorption till lvl 30, then essense harvest is best imo
what was it like during beta? target stunned the entire brainburst?
wait essence harvest
i felt like that would be the wrost
worst*
I've always ran Quietitude
target stunned, low cost to cast, and I cant remember if it was faster channeling or not
at lvl 30, you get warp charges out the ass with Ascendant Blaze
giving the option to use either version would make that feat a stronger option than most other feats, where would it go? In place of Quicken for the 30-1 to let you choose between channeled cast feat or kinetic barrage?
At first it is the worst. Until you get both of the warp charge gaining feats
I see, makes sense
you don't get warp charges as reliably as you quell toughness
Warp essence is better in low level play up to malice, you'll be able to one shot most elites with BB and gain charges easily.
Quietitude is best for high level play in heresy+, you'll frequently want to utilize passive quelling and your ultimate peril dump also triggers it for a big toughness gain.
nope, the only difference was that the stun started immediately rather than halfway into the cast as it is now
warp essence = warp absorption or essence harvest?
yeah get rid of quicken, it feels ass to use imo. but no need to make it "OP", just better than others in some situations
Sorry I always get that one mixed up. Essence harvest for low level.
ah, tysm
No it was definitely cheaper to cast too. 45% base cost was something that was tweaked and added into the pre-order beta
ANd ofc its stayed the same up until now
does warp battery affect ascendant blaze?
yes
It does
6 stacks vs 4 stacks
Ascendant Blaze applies stacks equal to your Warp Charges at the time of casting
6 stacks melts almost any standard unit

Yes. 6 stack dumps are absolutely hilarious. I got the penance for Killing Frenzy because of it
Me who got it using purgatus just because the soul blaze last hitting the enemies
I see, I just didnt know if it was stupid and capped at 4
the most important note is that it applies that amount of stacks to ALL targets it hits.
Its fun to 6 stack dump but I usually go with Kinetic Flayer at 25 as another warp charge gain. You hardly need to head pop
plus it comes in clutch sometimes
Idk how many times it insta killed a Rager within range of me
I like to use it with lightning staff as it has really high chance of triggering every 15
I use purgatus
is force sword any good? outside of the deflector blessing
Can you imagine how worthless AB would be for anything other than Purgatus staff if it split your stacks and applied each one to an individual target? God that would be awful, especially for a level 30 feat
It's alright
I swap around, mostly lightning coz I dont trust pubs with killing elites
It is also aesthetically satisfying to see someones head explode while being electrocuted
very true
Flayer falls off in damnation tho. At heresy and below it's great, but you don't get the killing blow with the KF proc hardly ever in Damnation so you don't gain the stacks from it, which is half the reason to take it
Force sword lacks in horde damage
Best 5 feat?
Good control and elite killing potential, especially vs. Hounds and Mutants.
Im almost thinking Flayer
Can also stunlock things like Crushers but doing so can leave you vulnerable, so be careful
Either battery or flayer imo
flayer is pure dopamine
that hasn't been my experience. hp thresholds arent big heresy->damnation for a lot of shit.
i dont feel like this is the case at all in my, so far, limited experience
actually started to enjoy it when im just swinging my sword at dumb shit for no reason and it connects on a cleave and bb's a 2nd trash mob i never intended to hit and kills it
Flayer is also just a free warpcharge when killing chaff
flayer is just great at creamy sheev RPing
It still does chunk dmg to bigger threats as well
plus when it bb's something you're killing anyway it's good for keeping stacks, like i see it proc when i kill with something else and gives me a stack anyway
It's just how the breakpoints fall. It's not a bad feat or anything. I'm just saying you won't maintain stacks with it by itself at high levels. You'll need to actively use BB or use Communion in your build as well.
I've been using the force sword without deflector because I haven't found it yet. It's still good because the short push pushes in a 360 degree arc. So you can basically stun lock enemies around you for a short time. Helps when you get surrounded and need to move. I've found it works best when you get the perk 25% damage vs infested so that you can one shot pox walkers with a heavy swing on damnation. It's my favorite weapon in the game.
I tend to just use BB more in Damn just coz of the shit trying to constantly murder you at range
Ah yeah. Flayer can also trigger on Brainbursts as well = double BB chances



ok so gun psyker with XII is obviously op and too easy. obviously the 1a is the connoisseurs choice
1a is the Green balanced one ain't it?

the real range gem is the headhunter for psyker
the 1a is the one that does half the damage of the XII with the same ammo efficiency in return for a marginal RoF bonus

its perfect for when u want to make sure no veteran in a 3mile radius gets ammo
which, frankly, GOOD
Ye.. so it's the balanced one
Imagine shooting anything more than 1ce with XII anyway

Veteran master race 
Blue ones are speed over dmg
Green balanced
Tan = power over speed
oh right sure thats the idea but in this case its just the shit one
thats how i think about it

its beautiful
The best staff I've used is the void staff. It's so freaking good. Clears mobs and let's you snipe enemies.
It's the balanced inbetween one so eh
Hence it's "Versatile"
If you wanna use all the ammo in a 12 mile radius. Get a Columbus Mk5. 40+ round mag and 13.33 ROF. You can burn an entire ammo box in like a minute.

i done that too much
i have like 5 godroll columnus V on zealot
including one ff8% one with 80 damage stopping power
thing is still unusable i love it
god i love that they made that gun its so perfectly bad in every way
i want to marry it
if you really want this, take the high RoF recon 

thats on the list next
gotta find one
with shit enough properties to really make it the dream
an agri IX headhunter is the ideal shitpost but

ammo 25% = 100% buy
Btw. Graia mkIV variant shoots faster
Also its Columnus MkII
but boring
I have a 365 Columbus with +20 to mutants, 8% weakspot damage, and 12% salvo damage with 77%+ roll in every stat except mobility.
It absolutely dumpsters mutants. Like literally deletes them from the game code. It's unreal.
I prefer Agripinaa MkVIII
Yeah my mainstay is actually a mk1 Agrippa
bonus funny: look at its model. then look at its mobility stat
then compare it to the agri brauto mobility stat
and the model
one of those 2 makes u run faster
Yeah. I've seen that lol.
y'all be runnin guns on psyker?
they really did something with those guns
Pick one:
run what you like i just run meme shit rn because why not
Meh
<——- if I had to make a choice
Left
worth a go? or nah
Looks good
Gunpsykers are legit fun, do what makes you happy and doesn’t wipe your team
If you just hit 30, you've just begun to peak my friend. Gun psyker is fun. Don't rule it out until you try it
did y'all see the new psyker datamine?
basically it says if you use a gun or non force melee your parents hate you
pretty weird but its true
only grey knights get those imo
Gunpsyker is Funpsyker
whats the new weapons for psyker and vet?
Hopefully nothing for Vet, they already have it too good 
did they patch the little lunge slide with the duelling sabre? or am i just rusty
i just want vet power sword and ammo capacity nerfed to the ground so they might have to occasionally engage in the game's mechanics
Only if your parents are the type who made you nothing but peanut butter sandwiches for lunch when you were in grade school
I just want a feat or passive for warp bullets and use any gun but have it cost peril instead of ammo.
kinetic flayer kinda
They did
unfortunate
if I see another plasma retard im gonna kms
Plasma gun have any splash or is just direct/passthrough?
@viral solstice you're a genius, is there a fix for subtitle settings resetting every game
whys that
no dank silver/gold skull helmet that came with the next set of cosmetics
Not having to use the same dumbass guns as everyone else is what makes psyker fun, imo
don't talk shit about my Mk XII
Most boring meta in history
i want some gold drip for my head to match the new green shirt but i want a rebreather
the skulls look goofy
agreed, lasgun gamers are hard cope, shit shoots so slow
I never play Vet anymore because it's so god-damn dull and if there isn't another vet to do it then you have to play MG XII and spend 15 minutes clearing every giant gunner swarm in volley fire
brauto and embrace your inner rambo
then the swarms melt
Thing kicks like a fucking mule and eats ammo, though.
nah
Also >shooting swarms
you just need some practice with it
begone, heretic
yeah I agree its boring
shooting gunner/shooter packs?? huh
you use ammo on things that shoot at you, ez
I guess I did say swarm first.
no but you’re supposed to use the staff!!!!! peril!!!!!
When people say that I assume they mean horde, my fault
i call them packs but yeah we same page
people who shoot at things that dont shoot back and arent elites+ are meme tier
Sitting in volley fire with your 75% damage reduction and popping 30 gunner heads is just so fuckin boring
If there's another vet you can at least play plasma or bolter or something, but god damn, main veteran role sucks
i mean id be lying if i didnt admit i sought variety after playing it for like 100 hours but, it was still a blast
Which is why Gunpsyker is the perfect marriage of challenge and utility
I can see why half of their brains have become mush by the time they join my team and they're about to section 8
you're fired.
Like a plasma shell
into a bag of marshmallows
The perfect marriage of vote and kick
Don’t talk about my Ogryn like that
what I'm saying is you're a hot mess
now kiss
never on the first date
best dps on monstrocities?
flamer
Guns
knifepsyker
someone's going to believe you and then they'll come back whinging about how psyker sucks because it can't even kill a monstrocity with a knife
Tell me a charge knife wouldn’t be amazing
First of all bleed knives melt monstrosities better than any other melee
Really though I usually brainburst until they look at someone else then start flinging FS specials.
a force knife with mechanics that synergize with psyker feats? sure, we can talk then.
Purgatus is honestly pretty bad dps but it's real consistent and easy.
Facts
so monstrosity just a shitshow for pskyer?
idk if flamer is better for some reason, but I'd believe you if you said it was.
I mean if you're soloing one, I guess, yeah
Purgatus is the veteran of staves: reliable, solid, but simple
flamer can absolutely melt monstrosities
It stacks higher, right?
Yes
Wait, I think I also read somewhere that they calculated damage differently, and soulblaze was multiplicative or something
purgatus just feels like a weak flamer. Voidstrike seems better for damnation for me, especially if you have a zealot with a flamer
Not sure about that tbh but I’ve definitely noticed flamer kills things faster with similar stats
It doesn't need to feel strong to do what it needs to do, which is melt dense horde
If I wanna just no brain complete runs, I go straight for my purgatus. It's not that it's a bad weapon or anything. It's just a really boring gameplay loop.
"Oh look a horde... Let's burn it."
"Oh look an elite pack... Let's burn it"
"Oh look a monstrosity... Let's burn it"
Can’t argue that, but it’s all the other things around it that prove helpful as well— like zealots when not facing hordes are at ranged mercy. Psykers curtail that with our kit
Flamer is also good at that and good for just spraying harder targets in a pinch, but that's not generally something you'd do with purgatus, because you have brainburst and shit like FS
Yeah if I'm flaming a monstrosity I'm being lazy, that's not really the best thing for me to be doing there
Same with elites, the flames are good for stagger, but then you should start picking them apart one by one
Unless you're just keeping them staggered for your team to deal with, which is a psyker thing, I guess
Just shy of stunbot territory, though
Hot take (badumtss) but flamer feels like it should be weaker than psyfire, they just had to make it slower and stronger to give zealots some better horde clears
i wish the left click wasnt just a lil fart
imagine if u threw an arcing burny explosion or somethin
It's so fucking slow, yeah.
They could make it faster but they'd have to make a lot weaker.
And then that'd hurt a lot of butts since it's one of their exclusive weapons
I’m almost certain they’re going to have cross exclusive weapons with DLC classes “with a twist”— like vets getting a hellflamer
The puffs are honestly great for CC. Give em a lil puff puff, then unleash the full bong hit
The purgatus LMB is...very, very good. I won't hear you asperse it
i mean its GOOD
Anyone have an ogryn that wants to help me get the heresy pennance for psycher?
Fair enough.
My man
voidstrike is much better. It will CC and do instant damage instead of staggering, then having to wait 3-4 seconds for the dot to kill it
Voidstrike feels boring but I like the lateral utility of it
Like sure, it's good-ish, but not fun
voidstrike doesnt flashbang all the veterans on ur team tho so its not as good
How is that not good
it's the best psyker staff for damage
I hate veterans
Oh, I thought you were saying purgatus wasn't as good because of that
🤝
trauma uses WAY too much peril and just feels like a vertical voidstrike staff
Trauma is bad.
You should see what I call a 6 stack ascendant blaze.....
Add soublaze to make it like conflagrate at the VERY LEAST
i was told that +3 wound gun psykers are the best in class... confirm/deny?
I've finally found a Deflector force sword and its base stats are shit
It's like an on-demand ogryn charge through enemies that did not need to be charged (so every ogryn charge), just making clean up a pain
if they reduced the peril cost it could be decent.. it's damage is good and stagger
Baby shit, go for +9
someone is trolling you
Resist the siren call of deflector and get better at avoiding bullets
obviously that guy who claimed 3 wound gunpsykers were best in slot has not yet heard of the mythical +9 stamina trauma psyker
deflector is meh
ssshh, you'll summon him
I heard someone wanted my build
mobility and autoquell of non-force weapons trump it
go for it
why is every game's z axis just wonky as fuck, dodged a trapper by sliding backwards down the stairs, nope fuck you
Because fluid flows uphill in this game, deal w/ it
Easy, 3 wounds, laspistol. Lemme post it after this round.
I used laspistol once, I genuinely cannot understand why it's in the game
Either side or you never tried - Darktide probably
sounds like a malice build
it sounds malicious alright
Because hit boxes are mostly vertical?
because sometimes you just want to be extra masochistic.
mind in motion should let you sprint while quelling and give you a speed boost after ulting
It should do something staves don't already let you do, that's for sure
mind in motion should stay bad so we can peril block without feeling like we're giving up anything
You're blocking way too much if you need to convert it to peril, imo
pretend choices, the true game design
I might block 3-5 attacks in a mission
*life
I wanna see this at Damnation
Laspistol seems cool because it has the force push but the push force is underwhelming, the accuracy over range is underwhelming and the damage is underwhelming so the ammo economy is underwhelming
i feel like the build is gonna be comicly underwelming
That’s cause you need to know how to use it properly
It has a million bullets but I don't want to click 300 times in a row, that's exactly why I hate playing Veteran
The current mind in motion should be built into the class
Mind in motion should be "allows the Psyker to move normally while charging a warp based attack and while aiming down the sights"
carpel tunnel surgery come in a buy one get one free?
it's not for doing fair things, it's for doing nonsense like infinite tanking daemonhosts, infinite push attacks with the meme axe, etc, generating toughness with quietude etc
Ah but you see. Laspistol psyker let's you click on the same enemy 300 times in a row. It's much less draining than aiming at all those other targets
peril block means your entire stamina bar is for fun things now
pistol gunker is the new meme
this is my current build and it slaps
woundlord pistol gunker
using non-force weapons
also honestly for all the memes about force swords
i dont mind usin it to kill trash
ees ok
it feels choppy enough


is not super choppa but is ok
I really like this rework
that's actually realistic too
oh definitely
good ideas have to come from someone that's coming back from vacation on March 3rd.
my liking it means nothing
Blizzard goes the other way and says your ideas are theirs to sell
still like it
great idea, glad I had it.
is there something to watch out for with bursters and hitting ult? or does it just flat out ignore it sometimes
Ult or AB ult?
yeah ive had a burster completely ignore ult and just shit itself on top of me
maybe lag tho idk
How are Force Swords?
Bursters in general just sometimes ignore stagger all together
also had several mobs slip out of a half cast BB
there's definitely some stagger resistance in some of it's movements/dive that doesn't seem to behave consistently
meh.. the autoquell and mobility of non-force weapons are better
I try to use the arming sound as a queue and it works like 70% of the time (for shout)
I see, so it’s something to really only have for Gun Psyker?
but for the 30% I have no idea what I did wrong to get blown up on
if you find you're only dying to those pre-loaded snipers, force sword may be for you
so basically it just fucks you sometimes cause its darktide
I have noticed that if you truly want to stagger a burster, you don't want to deal any damage at all to it before it's about to jump and you bump it
Otherwise it can bug out and be immune to stagger for some reason
So either kill it from afar if you know you can, or don't touch that fucker until it's up your face
yeah i just pushed in advance while it was running in hopes to charge a ball on it
nope
I don't think it has anything to do with gun psyker
Good. Deflector blessing is QoL. One of if not the best push in the game. High single target damage with the special. Pairs well with guns or staves that deal with hordes well.
Guns have the fast Peril CD
I see
I haven't seen a good gun psyker build in damnation
You definitely don't use mind in motion on a gun psyker. You either want to deflection or shield depending on your melee weapon choice
Give me time.
So does regular melee weapons
You're better off melee pushing than trying to ult bursters
It simply doesn't work the same reliably.
im a staunch believer that you can use any weapons you want and still be successful in damnation missions, so use all the guns you want. I just REALLY like the sound a Voidstrike M2 makes as it travels head height through an entire hoard of poxwalkers
Even then the melee is unreliable as well because they can bug out or your legally blind veteran can finally now see it when it's up on your face
If you gotta rely on a weapon to be good you need to git better
3/1/2/1/3/3 with deflector FS and Mk5 Columbus with +25% dmg to maniacs. Run whatever curios you want.
Really, yes, you can use whatever you want. That doesn't make it smart or effective with your feats as a psyker, and if you're trash, you should probably try to use things that take advantage of the tools you're given
bare knuckle box that pox
They ain’t ready for the Force Finger
gives fingerbang a new meaning
it's kinda interesting though, if you take the trait that lets Any attack do a brainburst, and you take an autopistol, you can pretty much guarantee you get one every 15 seconds
sounds bad, and ammo hungry
Or if you take any other weapon, sir.
wendy is pulsating
its the force finger
i very much just said i prefer staves, sir.
It's only ammo hungry if you're bad at ammo management. BB doesn't cost bullets.
Most of the time if it's on cooldown I get that BB on the very first melee attack I make. If it weren't for confirmation bias I'd be insisting there were actually a different system at play for determining when it procs, but I'm not like those people here.
A lot more than 1/10 times, anyway.
If you are killing elites with BB then why bring the gun? I mean, I'm sure it works, but it doesn't seem efficient. Why not play vet at that point? and you sacrifice the utlity of the staffs
it's actually impressive to me how high percentage the gunpsyker stuff is as bait
literally every day
100% of my gunpsyker stuff is bait, put that in your little ledger, mister
There's a reason you don't see it in almost any damnation runs lol
You rotate between BB and Gun as a multi weapon rotation. BB for crushers, bulwarks and maulers, gun for bursters, bombers, mutants, flamers and dogs. Sword for everything else.
beats listening to a guy yelling at Psykers for being dead weight by surgeing armored Ogryns instead of brain bursting them, because they dont need to be CCd because the shield Ogryn is tanking them
idk why you wouldn't wanna pop half of those things the second they round a corner with BB, but that's just me
you can definitely see why these mfs want to use guns, they just don't miss
proc that wall of text every time
guess they never miss, huh
Y-you got a
i hear it and start scanning every entrance to the room
—with your PSYKER gun, right??
yo what does this blessing mean for trauma staff?
Warp Nexus: +Critical Chance based on current Peril. Max of 3% Critical Chance. Stacks 5 times.
does the 3% chance stack to 15%?
You already know
at max peril?
i'm purg/dueling
Is that a type of shotgun
Famous duelling rifle
Purgbringer Mk VI Combat Shotgun
Honestly it's like giving Sienna a crossbow, psyker shouldn't even be able to equip guns.
I wish I could slot 2 guns instead of a melee. I’d be OP
but they didn't have enough staves and knew they wouldn't for years
so everybody gets everything
lazy fucks
Dual wield laspistol. Fatshark plz gib.
Shotgun psyker would be the ideal. Return to beta
Beta started you out with a revolver, lol
This psyker has the right idea
They wouldn’t bring it for the same reason they wouldn’t have power armor or astartes. Just too OP
Bardin has basically the same shit
You may not like it, but this is what the ideal psyker load out looks like
Warpfire pistols when
cant go DH if you never use warp. 
Soulblaze you say. Good synergy with the feats
Yeah, no shit
I'd like a soulblaze flamethrower personally
Some kind of ranged weapon that uses soulblaze
Sienna didn't have a drakegun because she already had a staff that did that
Idk where I got the idea from I think it would be useful
lol that one leaked psyker helm is just the astropath outfit from the trailer with the center eye removed
still dope tho
Psyker is all about headshots. Our one ability is literally a 100% guaranteed headshot. Psyker should carry a gun and staffs are trap bait for baddies. 😛
The last cosmetics drop is some of fugliest TF2-tier shit I've ever seen btw
would pay 2400 aquillas for
The art team are taking the Total War theme of the imperium of mankind and applying the same concept to their clothing models
No material wasted
The Total War against our sensibilities strategy
That’s what I’ve been telling people but some have a hard time letting go of the crutch staff. Don’t get me wrong not against staves it’s just an entry point for true skill
The ogryns face I cannot
dont we get a comsetic shop refresh tomorrow?
was the material sourced from a discarded circus tent sir?
Don’t say that, that’s the endgame RNG right there
No material wasted.
aint happening but one can dream
The emperor recycles
thank god there arent tampons in this universe, we'd all be screwed
Maybe for the second psyker subclass
Imperium of mankind is a diva cup society
impatiently waiting for this one so i can pair the sick lepoard print pants with it
Rambo meets Hambo
prob hit up a few clubs in the drip too
Reject Krieg, embrace Vostroyan Fuzzy Hats.
hit on some fellow dudes
easy buddy
40k years in the future and still not a decent tailor
I love men as much of the next bro but this is neither the time nor the place
You may not like it, but this is what peak performance looks like.
these two pskyers are gonna be lit
lit on fire
and tossed in the dumpster
First one already looks unsafely flammable
Fucking party streamers on your pants
Whoa where is that
Incredibly excited for my money to stay in my wallet for this one!
LMFAO
incredibly excited that i didnt ask!
I did
I made my best attempt at a female ogryn, i named her Molly Tov, as nightmare fuel for the imperium. shes got the hot pants.
||Not even conversations with yourself are private around a Sibling.||
I need the drip as a water coolant device to my gunpsyker
Psyker with a water cooled Lewis gun when. Let me suppress the enemy with gunfire and also magic fire
MOLLY TOVVVV
"I spy with my third eye" is a popular game amongst Psykers while they wait for the Veteran to win the game
hard for vets to win the game when they're on the floor half the time
Why is Gaben fighting Yoda
with scuffed goro in the back watching
because its easier than finishing halflife 3
half life 3 gonna come out before the last GOT book at least tho
okay but when will star citizen be out of beta
It won't
once the dyson sphere is built
When the emperor leaves his chair gottem

The emperor of mankind will resurrect before that
Praise be Star Child
R-Robin Williams is coming back??
My incomparable mind would finish developing star citizen in a week
But could your mind comprehend how much better a Gunpsyker is to a vet
I actually only play revolver psyker
Anything else is against the Lex
If you disagree you're going on the black ships
i thought the new meta was going 3 wounds and blowing up on hordes with the wet fart of shame?
The kamikaze build is the most OP, and one the Inquisitors keep close to their chest
Personally I don't run any extra wounds because I don't value anyone else's time
is it close because the blast radius is shameful?
Wanting to actually cry at trying to Out with a Bang's Penance
it's singlehandedly the most stressful Penance ever
Here's what the imperium doesn't want you to know: the perils of the warp are free. You can just explode them. I have the Going Out with a Bang at home
Is also the least achieved achievement on steam
Been trying for nearly 2 and half hours to get it with no luck cause it's either I blow up and kill 2 or someone kills one of the elites by mistake
I wonder if the Dev team actually try these penances when they make them
Or if they just think of something difficult and plug it in
At this point I'm tempted to ask if anyone would mind just helping me get it cause it's driving me nuts
LOL
Where’s our QA team at
I just wanna get 100% achievements on the game and this one penance is pretty much halted me from doing so
https://streamable.com/c804br
This happen to anyone else
You're much better off finding a team for it
going out with a bang at home:
#vox-lfg-lexicanum is your best bet for any achievement hunts
Figuring out how to perfectly rebalance every staff Blessing so that they don't actually do anything
They know the code and are secretly trying to tell everyone that Gunpsyker is king
yes, because you arent actually targeting anything
tfw it requires you to join VC's and I have anxiety around people I don't know
Next patch: Transfer Peril now only applies to Surge and Trauma staffs

what that then
A perfectly good headshot with a decent rifle
the dog you targeted after you already were scanning and peril building up to like 90
If only
Not to mention apparently equip jetpacks whenever they want at random and go flying in the air
i literally clicked right when it was available idk how this is being flipped on me not being able to target anything
im watching the video my guy you had not targeted that dog until you were already high in peril
Poxhounds actually can't. It's your brain that tells you that they can. Something that I can actually- grapples for your head -fix right now
which should still bb? im confused what part of high peril doesnt let you do a bb
97 is the limit btw
Yeah even if it would've killed him, it should still BB and then blow him up
it's not supposed to just cancel the bb
you have to target the mob you want to bb for the bb to kill them
It's happened to me before too btw. Right click BB is just buggy
psyker is just buggy in general
I have had some situations with right click that felt off too but I assumed I was trying to use it incorrectly
That explains everything
the game is just buggy in general
the game is just..
right click bb sucks in general, i said what i said
Say what you want about darktide Vs vermintide but you can't decapitate a dog with a Chainsword in Vermintide
Not with that attitude
so true
I'm here to kill dogs and play gunpsyker. And I'm all out of bullets because I took a revolver
God I love monstrosity penance
your name reminds me of the noise guinnea pigs make when you got a yogurt drop.
i feel like right click is the only way psyker can outcompete a vet for reaction time kill and the fact its so buggy pains me so
Right click on a gun works 10/10 times
500%
weet weeeeet
hate it here
lookit that snoot.
yea ive just gave up on staff psyker unless im running a premade that can capitalize on surge cc, its mk 12 pskyer from now on, im just budget vet with occasional random bb
Ahh yes, the only 2 Psyker options: Surge and Gun
Love the modern internet in that I know exactly what this is and what it means despite having only a tiny slice
the ones i personally play, other options like purge im not a fan of but it has its uses
The true endgame, where a psyker can pick up bullets and just force flick them at enemies
Heard it here first
honestly i want 2 different types of laser staff
1 that works like symmetra from overwatch, it does not pierce but the longer it is in contact with an enemy, the beam gets wider and does more damage - good for tracking the heads of elites to do hella damage, low peril cost
2 one that pierces enemies and has no stagger but does high consistent damage but has extreme peril cost
I don’t :l
I want a warp launcher that's like an RPG but instead it's my incomparable mind as an explosive device
So the Ogryn?
Ew no, Comet Azure or bust
symmetra beam and comet azure
hear me out.. warp heals.
ideal future
darkest dungeon occultist, can heal a random amount and give random status effects
but also can hurt
psyker with comet azure: vet you see that crusher over there?
vet: Where?
psyker: you're welcome
“But the point is not to get hit you will be useless in good lobbies scrub” - Somebody somewhere
Only shit I'm interested in is the crazy bitch spells from elden ring. Let me grab a trapper and suck it's brains out
the psyker BB is a glorified marker for the 3 vets in my pub match to shoot it seems like
It's this, heavily cropped
Ah
that zealot in your party who has zero situational awareness almost dead AGAIN? Warp Heals™
facts
no i assure you i’m on 1 health in the name of the emperor
I'm just the spotter for their 3-man sniper team
the edit with psyker sits in my head all day
I still think we should have a skill called "warpsight" where we can see things that disturb the warp (DH) no matter where on the map, but also lets us only see the glow for BB
btw they will never add a healing class mechanic, too op
savant voice "incroyable*
genocide support mains
LET ME DREAM
Metatide, How seconds in the warp does it take till my sexual orientation player status gains extra confusion stacks? Minmax replies only
Better option
Puppet Master - The telepath possesses his victim's mind, controlling their movements, their aim and their trigger fingers as if they were marionettes.
Did you mean: [whatever the veteran ability is called]
yea even in vermintide the most was just temp help regen, well maybe grail knight and keri passive regened health but it was super slow and rewarded good gameplay
Gunpsyker by proxy. Okay
+3 soy milk
Witch sight but different?
Darktide Tutorial "Sprint through this laserfire to get to cover!"
Darktide actual game "You take increased damage while sprinting!"
Full circle to the best class in game, Gunpsyker
Slide into cover to evade bullets!
Oops, sorry, being shot at removes the ability to slide!
oh they cant do that i'd off my whole fkn team i have no self control and a sense of humor so dark the drow envy it
...or sprint!
it was gunpsyker all along?
always was
...Or move!
Btw standing in fire ALSO removes your ability to move, or jump, or slide!
To be honest, if pvp was enabled, psyker would actually be the most hated class due to the large amount of tools they have to screw their teammates over
Quick, move, jump, or slide out of the fire, you fool!
My item loadout is already minmaxed, my 6+ daily discord hours outclasses Soy type gear threefold
wait are we talking about pvp or penances?
PvP.
the tutorial is just complete BS at this point and actively sabotages new players
Smashcut to me sadly dragging my purgatus staff into another malice game because I know picking up a firearm is worth me staying on the Mourningstar
https://tenor.com/view/emperor-palpatine-luke-skywalker-shock-gif-13110792
Psykers when pvp on
Okay but do you own any NFTs?
The weight of the crown is too heavy for some, understandably
I've not the stats to equip Nurgle Fetish Toys
when PVP is in the first thing Im going to do is brain burst a veteran. Do it, jackass. Shoot the glowing head now. I dare you.
Wasn't the god emperor himself a gun psyker. Yeah I thought so
some day bro. some day 
And arguably the strongest being in existence on this side of the warp
can we get this pinned?
I played with some people the other day that were so clearly just prioritizing my bb targets I eventually just stopped and followed them around until there was something for me to do without competing for it
When pvp is in the surge staff now also targets teammates
And why? 9mm for self-defence
game just gave me yet another 380 duelling sword and I don't want to use any of them 
i'll take 'em
I'm honestly not a huge fan of the dueling sword, either
Game needs a player to player auction house using MelkBux
kinetic flayer OP
I think I first used one in malice and thought it was a woodchipper but it feels way shittier in every difficulty above that
one of each mark as well 
I'll never win that FS organized Physker tourney, I'll never get that chemical castration grand prize now :<
it was pretty good when they had super sliding for mobility puposes
did they nerf the special poke + slide?
100%
there will always be a m80 in a beer can between your thighs ole chap.
yeah all those weird move techs got deleted
I barely touched duelling swords
The staff special is most satisfying when it procs Kinetic Flayer on the poke
I would if I could Zio
You can join the psykers who power the Golden Throne
is flayer the free bb one






