psyker-class

[river zodiac]

so is the seer like, actually romantically in love with the emperor (beloved). like does he see him as a girl lmao

[fierce sinew]

or rather how busted peril block is

[pale crescent]

Psyker love is more powerful than gender norms

[abstract scaffold]

well, u dont really need 380 on everything. like on my staffs i need 0 quell speed as i dont use it, meaning i could get far below 380 and still get max on the others 😄

[abstract scaffold]

nothing like solo tanking a demon host as psyker in damnation and the team asking "how tf did u survive that long?!"

[abstract scaffold]

yes

[fierce sinew]

regening toughness all the while lmao

[violet yoke]

any mk v axe with peril block and BM blessing is tons of fun

[north cradle]

It's probably the same sense of love as in most religions

[pale crescent]

I don't need it, but I definitely want it for the sake of it. I have a 347 knife on vet but the perks more than make up for it

[river zodiac]

yea im just being overly analytical cuz tbh i wouldnt even be shocked if he was that insane

[manic needle]

Not bad, reroll that sprint efficiency perk and maybe replace Decimator with Limbsplitter once that becomes possible. Still not a bad holdover blessing in the meanwhile

[north cradle]

I take Seer at face value that he can in fact commune with the Emperor and is fully aware of his status

[manic needle]

Honestly its probably better than the 380 axe I upgraded a few days ago and got mediocre blessings with

[fierce sinew]

there are voicelines he has in response to other characters' lines about the emperor where he tells his beloved they're talking about him

so crazy or not he knows they're the same

[abstract scaffold]

tell me about it. i think i have upgraded atleast 6 axe's all the way now to get a good blessing and perk combination -_-

atleast i got weapons to strip blessing from when the time comes

[echo parrot]

Game better yet?

Not complaining, I got a good 280 hours of what is there right now

[crimson ravine]

No patches yet

[echo parrot]

Rip

[warm flint]

i don't understand what you mean, you don't use what?

[glossy escarp]

Siblings, is there some sort of trick to the force sword's push attack?

Even on malice it feels lacking in impact except for a few times now and then when something's knocked on its ass

[mighty pike]

Insteas if having a push and then an attack like an axe it has a stagger and a push . It's weird I don't like it

[tepid marlin]

Staves have quell speed as one of the modifiers. This affects manual quell speed. Since he doesn't use manual quelling, then he can just ignore that modifier value and focus mainly on the other modifier values

[summer prairie]

What staff would you never manually quell with, purg?

or void i guess

[tepid marlin]

Void makes the most sense, but you can also just put away your staff and use a non-force sword as a weapon with (very quick) passive quelling while you continue to fight

[summer prairie]

Right but that is never optimal with surge and trauma

[tepid marlin]

That's assuming transfer peril is on the void, ofc

[tepid marlin]

That's fair, but he never explicitly stated what set up he was running

[summer prairie]

hence I asked

[unreal harness]

Based

[abstract scaffold]

quell speed stat

i run mk V axe and once im high peril i just go melee for 5sec and im almost down again

also guys, quell speed is not how fast u quell, but how fast you move while quelling

meaning 0% quell speed = same movement speed while quelling as if u have ur hands/bb out

[unique barn]

So, nobody runs +3 wounds?

[mighty vault]

sir please

[warm flint]

lol, i meant what do you mean you don't use it, the boost to active quell from staves is extremely poweful

well no you, anogra

[warm flint]

are you trolling? i do hope so

[simple scaffold]

Its definitely worth having a few +wounds on 4 and 5

[proud mantle]

isnt it a max of +1 wound? I've had +2 wounds on my character but only got 1 extra down

[twin pond]

most everyone i see on damnation either only has +1 extra wound or none

more than +1 is possible though

[mighty vault]

Planning for failure

[simple scaffold]

Failsafes give you room for mistakes

[azure ice]

Gun psyker gud?

[mighty vault]

This game gud?

[unreal harness]

I mean at that point you might as well just run vet so you can be a better gunner lmao

[azure ice]

Lol

[glossy escarp]

It's definitely interesting but I don't know about good

I found it really fun but I've also only played it on malice so far, where pretty much anything works

[twin pond]

gun psyker provides no utility and eats ammo, certified meme build

[unreal harness]

As a vet main, the most impact I see from psykers is when they are RPing Palpatine

[simple scaffold]

Its easily 100 hours of fun gameplay

[lethal crown]

UNLIMITED POWER

you know you say it too when you're doing it, guys

[mighty vault]

I usually say "shoot these fucking things" a lot more

[leaden pier]

does block efficiency affect how much stamina is used for pushing?

the perk i mean

[abstract scaffold]

go and try it again in the grinder. the higher quell speed = faster u move while quelling..... maxed out i move almost same speed as walking, lower ranged and its super slow

[abstract scaffold]

no, blocking only

[summer prairie]

Different weapons have different push costs, but it's not modified by any of the perks

[abstract scaffold]

only really worth +1 wound. other slots are better spent on other stats like toughness or hp if u run that

[simple scaffold]

Purgatus staff deletes hordes. Surge staff is most noticeable for team play though

[abstract scaffold]

i am not. go try it in the grinder. get a staff with really low quell speed and one with almost max. the difference is in the speed you move while quelling, not the actualy quelling (as i also thought first)

[light quail]

peep this one

[manic needle]

That staff makes me sad

[abstract scaffold]

sad weapon

[leaden pier]

pretty eh

[light quail]

20% carapace might be good

but other than that

emperor buggin

[abstract scaffold]

although the best i got atm is

[light quail]

im not even using staffs atm lmfao

i have the most unusual gun psyker build

[abstract scaffold]

deffo not great, but it gets me through damnation/herasy without much of a fuss

[fallen helm]

I don’t know where I read it but someone was asking if hounds and mutants count as elites just found out that elites are anything that got a sound que to let you know they coming just thought I should put that out there

[manic needle]

I'm so sad that Warp Flurry literally doesnt work on Surge staff

10/10 game design tbh

[abstract scaffold]

alongside

[abstract scaffold]

tell me about it!

atleast i crit quite a lot and it does ok dmg when it does

[manic needle]

This is why Im sad

[abstract scaffold]

niiice!

[manic needle]

I keep this to transfer the belssing to my Voidstrike eventually

[abstract scaffold]

i find myself happier with focused channeling on purger staff than any other

[light quail]

I will say though
nsara mindwalker set is pretty good

show your tats off

[manic needle]

Its pretty so-so on Surge. Its nice for CCing dreg shooters but whats nicer is not geting hit by them in the first place

[summer prairie]

Still better than the alternatives

[manic needle]

Warp Nexus is what I'd really like

[summer prairie]

oh I thought that was nexus

[warm flint]

My man. Really, now. Just admit it's a troll. You got me, you can admit it now.

[manic needle]

No it is the worst belssing you can possibly get on a Surge Staff

[abstract scaffold]

warp nexus deffo bis imo for surger

[abstract scaffold]

ssshhhh, let them all go and scratch their heads in the grinder 😉

real talk though, of all the stats on staffs, quell speed is the least valuable on imo, atleast as long as u are running a non-force weapon

[orchid venture]

How many force staves are in the game so far? 4?

[abstract scaffold]

so i would 100% take a staff with 0% quell and rest 80%

[olive ember]

voidstrike, surge, purge

[wanton cove]

Yep

[olive ember]

yep

[crimson ravine]

Tbh just using a different class will win at t4 t5.

[manic needle]

Trauma, Voidstrike, Purgatus, Surge

[wanton cove]

& trauma

[olive ember]

we don't talk about that one

[abstract scaffold]

yes.
Surger : palpatine lightning/cc
Voidstrike: Think fireball staff
purger: flamethrower, but magic
Trauma: aoe circle, terrible for anything and everything

[summer prairie]

force weapons would actually go down to non-force weapon auto vent speeds if you could hit 100%

[wanton cove]

xD

[orchid venture]

I think that one datamine said 7 staves in the files, that has me really curious what those could be...

[warm flint]

quell speed with quietude is very powerful, it's the fastest way to regen toughness

[olive ember]

nah fastest way is to run either of the other two perks with purge staff

[worthy wedge]

Does quietude work on auto-quell?

[orchid venture]

I want something like bolt staff that sienna has, but i guess the sky is the limit

[olive ember]

quietude quell is the most consistent way to generate toughness

which is alot more preferred

imo

[abstract scaffold]

yes

[abstract scaffold]

yes

[summer prairie]

1-1 is only 6% toughness per second, that's not faster than quelling

[worthy wedge]

Neato.

[warm flint]

absolutely this

[olive ember]

6% per warp charge

[summer prairie]

getting a new warp charge only resets the timer

[warm flint]

you are able to regen toughness completely alone, outside of coherency with no mobs needed to hit

[olive ember]

if you are running purge with AB you can get bursts of toughness

[summer prairie]

you still don't gain faster than 6% per second

[abstract scaffold]

what i run with the axe and surger i linked earlier. gets me through anything with any half-decent team

[olive ember]

you do?

[summer prairie]

no

[olive ember]

yeah I run the same using deflector FS + Surge

[abstract scaffold]

which is amazing when u need to regain some before u throw urself at more ranged enemies

[abstract scaffold]

i got deflector FS as well, but i feel it falls behind after herasy on killing horde/anything

[warm flint]

plus, quelling while being hit can cancel your toughness being broken

[abstract scaffold]

i can still 1shot trash with the axe and 4-5 hit the mutant etc on damnation

[olive ember]

Meh its for the utility, I'm typically the last one who needs to kill hordes

i treat it like the combat knife or the dueling sword, except it has actual utility in the form of block, push, push attack, and funny revive

also special lets me deal with maulers n shit up close

[abstract scaffold]

also axe vs FS gives me better blocking since i auto-quell very fast with the axe up. meaning i can solo tank DH without needing to dodge, which is always fun xD

[olive ember]

the autoquell speed is completely irrelevant unelss you are A) tanking a daemonhost (in which case what did your team do) or B) somehow getting screwed completely and utterly

[orchid venture]

I played a few times with the other toughness traits, I just really prefer the 3rd one since it lets you recharge your toughness really quickly when there aren't many enemies around

[abstract scaffold]

its amazing when u wanna block-push-attack when cramped coz someone messed up/bad place for horde

[olive ember]

I should probably say that my FS's second trait is slaughterer which probably helps with horde clear alot

[abstract scaffold]

since u can use all ur stamina to constantly block-push and still block anything

[olive ember]

yeah IK

[summer prairie]

FS is has much worse block costs in general than many other Psyker weapons

[olive ember]

I just prefer FS tbh

[orchid venture]

Supremely annoying when there's just a few shooters scattered around an open area

[ebon jolt]

Force sword block push is so good ❤️

[olive ember]

I mean its all a technicality tho, I don't ever find myself blocking melee enough for the extra peril gen on FS block to matter

infinite dodge + push + push attack is enough most of the time to control a horde

[ebon jolt]

Deflector force sword is great for revives in almost any situation. Force sword is also great at special and elite killing.

Non-weapons I find better for demonhost tanking or quelling.

It’s a trade off. Use one or the other depending on my ranged weapon.

[warm flint]

FS and deflector is a trap, dueling sword with high mobility and increased dodge is what you want for survival

[olive ember]

its not really a trap

[warm flint]

for 9/10 people, they fall into the false sense of security it provides

[olive ember]

i mean I believe i responded to you specifically about this before but

thats a skill issue

[orchid venture]

The game has yet to give me a decent mkII dueling sword

[mental vortex]

I dont get a purge staff for so many cycles and then I get this

https://tenor.com/view/bird-rain-anger-gif-26033379

[summer prairie]

the only thing FS brings to the table is deflector. Maybe with full crafting it will be competitive in other regards

[ebon jolt]

I think deflector is better for reviving teammates and spamming force push in a horde than it is for holding actual block.

[orchid venture]

tfw your cloud has a small radius

[echo parrot]

The Psyker Chat Roulette

(1) Purg vs Void
(2) FS deflector is best
(3) Actually Trauma is good

Looks like we pulled a (2)

[orchid venture]

What even is deflector

[ebon jolt]

You forgot gun psyker 😂

[warm flint]

nope, wasn't me on this, dodge is the best method of surviving, blocking is second to dodge because you shouldn't be getting hit

[summer prairie]

(4) BB is trash

[wanton cove]

i wanna confirm something

[orchid venture]

I haven't seen anything called that yet

[wanton cove]

deflector does NOT deflect snipers

??

[echo parrot]

I tried to ignore the (4) ball but of course you had to bring it up

[unreal harness]

I've been frequenting this here channel for all of about a day now, and I gotta say-
based

[ebon jolt]

No. Snipers do not deal ranged damage. The damage is an effect.

[wanton cove]

Ahhhhhhhhh

Ty!

[warm flint]

the best argument for FS and deflector is that you play it because you think it is fun, not because it is better than dodging

[ebon jolt]

It’s actually a bug that Ogryn shield blocks snipers.

[summer prairie]

Sniper attack is just tagged Unblockable

[wanton cove]

Wow o.O

[olive ember]

I mean its for blocking bullets kek

[proud drum]

Sniper attacks are emotional damage, and therefore unblockable.

[olive ember]

and special killing

[mental vortex]

sniper spawns are the second most annoying thing in the game

[wanton cove]

Snipers collect all of the salt from angry players and shoot it at us

Makes sense why its so deadly and they have so much ammo

xD

[olive ember]

Did they ever fix the sniper bugs?

[echo parrot]

Snipers actually dont do any damage, the damage you get is from the embarrassment of failing to dodge such an easy broadcast.

[simple scaffold]

I am a fan of the level 30 brainburst feat too

[mental vortex]

is cloud radius important for purge

[olive ember]

except when they glitch out

[unreal harness]

Hi, level 20ish psyker here, I haven't done any research on builds or whatnot yet, and only played on Malice so far, but it would seem to me 25-3 with a surge staff would be insanely powerful, no? Like Vet with Agripinaa Braced Autogun stronk
Am I right, or if wrong where does it fall short/what's better?

[olive ember]

every staff but trauma is viable

[unreal harness]

Word, thanks

[viscid forum]

Trauma is pretty viable honestly

[orchid venture]

I have a muscle memory to dodge to the side when i hear the sniper tell, which gets me shot alot when the sniper is to my side already

[echo parrot]

There are no glitches in Warhammer 40k: Darktide

[viscid forum]

just shittier compared to the other 2

[mental vortex]

which one do I go with

[proud drum]

I don't aim to do damage: I just put sparks up in the air and play rave music.

EDM for the Emperor.

https://tenor.com/view/electric-blast-cress-williams-jefferson-pierce-black-lightning-take-this-gif-18328605

[unreal harness]

10/10 would party with (in both senses of the word)

[ebon jolt]

Yes. Second most important stat after burn. It affects range and width of the flame.

[simple scaffold]

Surge is good with a team

Purge is good for carrying

[mental vortex]

shit

well Im screwed

[unreal harness]

This man knows the answer I'm after lol

[echo parrot]

BFG staff best staff

[ebon jolt]

It does 1000 damage every 15 seconds. It’s good with a lot of weapons but I find it more useful for warp charge generation and upkeep than damage.

[unreal harness]

Thanks

[olive ember]

Typical Sniper Experience

• Sniper fires without laser
• Player gets hit
• Laser appears over player shoulder last second before sniper fires second shot
• *Player dodges *
• Player Can't tell if Laser is coming from in front or behind, checks front
• Sniper from behind fires a third shot
• Player turns around
• Sniper fires fourth shot

[simple scaffold]

Voidstaff is also great, but its not as specialized

[wanton cove]

Sniper spawns above you and shoots you through the floor ._.

[mental vortex]

darktide

[simple scaffold]

Snipers alone, not a problem. Snipers along with a horde, mutant, and crusher, that can be a problem

[olive ember]

two different snipers spawn from behind and to your left, requiring you to pull off a diagonal dodge

[mental vortex]

1 mutant and 1 crusher isnt bad

[unreal harness]

My favorite are the snipers that chill in a corner of a small room and shoot you when you walk in

[light quail]

cant be blocked by deflection either

[mental vortex]

I prefer 1 mutant and 1 crusher to whatever the fuck spawns in the average heresy ambush

[lapis bay]

I love when snipers wait for you just outside a doorway and instashoot when it opens

[light quail]

heresy needs to chill on the specials fr

[mental vortex]

yeah

ai director is not real

[olive ember]

what about the triple sniper firing squad waiting for you at the top of the elevator ride

[unreal harness]

Does the bullet deflection need like a weapon bless or something? Cuz I have the deflection feat but bullets still hit me

[orchid venture]

72 snipers spawn around you in 5 degree increments, requiring you to pull off the legendary Z Axis Dodge

[mental vortex]

THE EMPEROR HAS ACCEPTED MY PRAYERS

[lapis bay]

https://tenor.com/view/bow-arrows-shoot-hit-gif-12968662

[olive ember]

its a trait on specifically the FS called "deflector"

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1053454438494384149/image.png

[unreal harness]

That makes sense, thanks me boi-o

[mental vortex]

I will take it

cop

steeal

buy

yes

[unreal harness]

If you crouch at just the right moment, they'll all kill each other

[lapis bay]

I wish they’d make BB one second faster tbh

[simple scaffold]

Yea the bullet soaker block feels too iconic to just be a blessing

[lapis bay]

If there’s a vet in the squad then they never pop

[simple scaffold]

The level 30 feat helps a lot

[olive ember]

KB makes BB useable, otherwise it just feels like shit

[lapis bay]

Kinetic barrage?

[simple scaffold]

Also, its the vets fault for wasting ammo on a free kill

[unreal harness]

This, BB is worthless on anything other than an ogre/boss cuz any competent vet will just kill the shit first

[worthy wedge]

I wish there were more ways to buff bb in general.

[lapis bay]

Yeah I hardly use BB when in a group with a Vet unless it’s a sniper or carapace

[unreal harness]

Honestly, BB even kills shit slower than most incompetent vets

[wanton cove]

IKR

[simple scaffold]

Bb is clutch imo

[wanton cove]

2 crushers 2 reapers a bulwark and some other hot BS thrown into your face

[orchid venture]

I don't think I'm a big fan of the surge staff. It's great for stunning things, unless the thing you're trying to stun is near other stuff

[simple scaffold]

Just, ignore warp charges as a mechanic completely

[wanton cove]

mhmm xD For now atleast

[olive ember]

thats light, compared to the 5 crusher + 5 reaper + 5 gunners I normally get

[wanton cove]

I passively keep atleast some stacks up on heresy without having to micro to much

[devout belfry]

[olive ember]

BB is basically "Is my vet pre occupied?"

[mental vortex]

once had 3 bullwarks 2 gunners 1 reaper and a crusher

[olive ember]

"press F, activate KB, BB priority target"

[unreal harness]

Agreed, if Warp Charges stacked up to 10 they might be worth it, but this system idk

[lapis bay]

How do you guys manage the “keep maximum warp charges for 300 seconds” penance

[simple scaffold]

Bb good for fat heavies and annoying specials that like to run

I ignore penances

[olive ember]

run heresy, run psychic communion, run kinetic flayer

[simple scaffold]

Its just a nice to have

[olive ember]

wait for a horde, you can get warp battery just by playing

[unreal harness]

If you keep trying it for like 3-4 matches and be almost completely useless to your team in the meantime, you'll get it

[fast swan]

https://tenor.com/view/gemini-home-entertainment-ghe-skinwalker-woodcrawler-home-invasion-help-gif-23841093

why is that so true

when the vet kills 2 crushers in a single boltgun burst

[devout belfry]

Pick and mix on the other hand...

[lapis bay]

Legit what it feels like tbh, not very team friendly

[unreal harness]

Just make sure you target shit that doesn't matter, random pox walkers that nobody else is looking at, to make sure them vets dont steal the kill

[olive ember]

I actually got warp battery without even trying on my first heresy match

garbage like pick n mix and out with a bang are actually shit tho

[fast swan]

just do warp battery on the train raid map

super long range

ez af to kewep charges up

[devout belfry]

That's what I did too lol

That map for half the penances.

[lapis bay]

Thanks fam, the emperor loves you

[olive ember]

idr but 300 seconds is like 6 minutes, so get to the first objective, and you kinda just get warp battery naturally

[high agate]

Sprint forward and keep BBing the first thing you see like a useless cunt.
Its only 5 min which is usually less than half the level

[olive ember]

don't even have to do that

just get to the first objective

and then let communion generate stacks

and then use kinetic flayer to keep up stacks

and if you really need to press F, with kinetic barrage, and BB as a last resort

atleast thats how I got it

[devout belfry]

"achievements". I feel so accomplished.

[lapis bay]

Thanks!! Now I have a couple methods to try, I got 278/300 and I wasn’t even trying. When I tried to do it I couldn’t even make it close lmao

[olive ember]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1052983903520047184/image.png

Do you sense my pride and accomplishment?

[high agate]

Its pretty easy honestly, just play Psyker in the most inefficient way by spamming BB

[olive ember]

i feel that is just a good way to get tilted tbh, especially with decent vets on your team

just play normally and pray for communion procs kek

and only start caring maybe a quarter through the horde once communion has built up 4 stacks

[orchid venture]

Brain burst should have variable charge times based on target health, but instantly kill whatever you target.

It just takes a minute and a half to kill a plague ogryn with it

[charred marten]

Get a horde map and the passive to helo (never remember names) and you lilely get it without trying

[lapis bay]

I wish that BB didn’t reset progress when your enemy dies to someone else

Or build peril on target shift

[summer prairie]

It doesn't if you hold it

[orchid venture]

Yeah, you just charge with right click, and only left click when it's fully charged

[mighty vault]

Errr, you still have to start over if you were channeling on a target already

[simple scaffold]

I never use right click mode

[olive ember]

it used to hold the charge so you could swap to another target but they nerfed that

[mighty vault]

I do, but it doesn't work like that

[olive ember]

right click should basically never be used

[mighty vault]

What

[orchid venture]

I only end up using right click if i hear something like a dog or mutie before it's actually visible

[mighty vault]

I use it all the time to nail shit the second it rounds a corner

[olive ember]

i'm surprised you have the time and space to do that

[mighty vault]

Or when I can't target it through something like a fence or grate but can still be building up for when it becomes targetable

You only play on hi-intensity or something?

[olive ember]

i mean heresy is always hi intensity

[mighty vault]

lol

Not really.

[mental vortex]

bbing a hound is pointless at heresy and damnation so I just 1 hit them with the force sword

[olive ember]

it pretty much is

[mighty vault]

There's always disablers and stuff sneaking up between events.

No, it really isn't, lol

[olive ember]

? they fixed the glitch

[mighty vault]

Play a hi-intensity heresy mission and tell me you can't tell the difference

Yes.

[olive ember]

huh

[mighty vault]

They do occasionally actually fix things, I know

[mental vortex]

fix what?

there are no glitches in warhammer 40k:Darktide

[olive ember]

lmao

[mental vortex]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/802228620135235605/1050821022514950185/blinky.gif

[simple gust]

I charge BB and tag snipers as they pop out. Hop behind cover after a tag and let it finish charging. I do this often when we clear out a lower level, especially with lots of gunners.

[mental vortex]

would 4 pskyers with bb focused builds be able to compete with a single recon lasgun vet

[olive ember]

apparently recon lasgun isn't even that good anymore

[mental vortex]

?

[olive ember]

since infernus nerf

or wte

or fix

idk i don't follow vets as much

all ik is that the mk 12 exists

[light quail]

I use recon lasgun with the 5th tier brainburst thingy

[mental vortex]

last time I played it was a week or two ago

and was pretty fucking good

Im talking about the heavy brown one

green and blue are actual flashlights

[olive ember]

the mmk 12?

[mental vortex]

whichever one has the potential to do 80 damage

dont remember

[olive ember]

oh

recon

mk 7

[simple gust]

I don't BB much in the thick of things, but it's great to snipe enemies at long range. Surge staff for CC, follow up with force sword immediately after.

[olive ember]

i run a recon lasgun on my vet

[worthy wedge]

So which stats are most desired on a purg staff?

also, which blessings?

[olive ember]

terrifyting barage and warp nexus

same traits are desired on surge

[worthy wedge]

oh wow terrifying barrage sounds amazing

[simple gust]

I'm still looking for a decent purg staff.

[covert valve]

does terrifying barrage have an internal cd or something?

[olive ember]

not sure

i just know its really good XD i don't run purge myself tbh

[simple gust]

It suppresses around the target killed, not the player. That's all I found about it.

[simple scaffold]

Oh wow thats way better

[manic needle]

I would much rather try Surge and Nexus on a Surge Staff than Terrifying Barrage and Nexus. Can you even get Surge on a Surge staff? I've literally only ever seen it on Voidstrike, which is a bit ironic.

[simple gust]

Also, the soul blaze from purg staff counts towards ascendant blaze feat:
Enemies killed by any Soulblaze effects have a 10% chance to grant you a Warp Charge.

That's the 30 feat

That feat alone can wipe a horde in T4 or T5 at 4 warp charges.

[simple scaffold]

Oh snap

Really?

[manic needle]

It seems like Surge is so rare that I don't even see it on sites like Gameslantern.

[simple scaffold]

I didnt know that worked with purge staff

[manic needle]

And if I say something like I want Surge on my Voidstrike most people probably have no idea what Im talking about

[austere estuary]

glad to hear terrifying and nexus are desired on flame

[simple gust]

Yeah, it's from soul blaze death from all sources, not just the feat

[austere estuary]

I can confirm this is a fun weapon to use

[mighty vault]

which blessing is surge again

I never remember the names of shit, just what they do

[manic needle]

You hit twice on a crit. Spawns at T4 only

[covert valve]

https://youtu.be/Asia7hAE2GE however this is /w flayer proc but still neat to see!

[manic needle]

making it incredibly rare

[mighty vault]

I see. Hit twice, like what does that actually mean, just 100% extra damage?

[manic needle]

Yes, as in two seperate crits at the same time

[mighty vault]

Okay, cool, I guess.

It doesn't look like two crits in that video

Looks like just a separate regular hit

Maybe both hits have the regular crit modifier so it could be double crits

[manic needle]

Is that on Damnation meatgrinder?

[covert valve]

always only test on damnation, rest of the break points on lower levels i dont care about. you can see by the amount of health they have

[near wyvern]

Who TF says terrifying barrage is desired on Purgatus?

[lapis bay]

Does anyone know the highest percentages for health and toughness for psyker?

[manic needle]

In that case thats insane lol

[lapis bay]

On relics

[covert valve]

yeah just need higher crit rate and if you go with nexus you give up quelling % but guess u can buff it up with shred for now 25% lol

[unique barn]

pointless, +3 wounds

[lapis bay]

Why wounds? They don’t make you tankier, unless I’m thinking incorrectly

[near wyvern]

I think it's 17% toughness on 3 curios and 21% health on 3 curios so +51% for toughness and +63% for health?

[manic needle]

Surge/Nexus seems like it would be incredibly effective, just make sure you have a means for peril management

[lapis bay]

I like toughness for the quietitude

[unique barn]

not for psyker

[lapis bay]

Thank you!

[near wyvern]

The only reason to stack toughness on a psyker is if you go with kinetic shielding

[lapis bay]

Wife got a 21% relic I just didn’t know it went higher or not

[manic needle]

Dont forget each of those blessings can get 5% Toughness/Health from perks

[lapis bay]

I do go kinetic shielding haha o love it it’s so good

[unique barn]

you're not tanky so why stack anything, wounds = more reset

[near wyvern]

Right. GL rolling a max with 3 max pekrs 😂

[simple gust]

I run one stamina relic, one wound relic, and one health relic.

[lapis bay]

No not tanky but I’ve found myself dying a lot less with more health and toughness. A lot of the time I’m the last one up with kinetic barrier

[manic needle]

If you have the blessings you just spend an hour playing a clicking game lol

Still better than Cookie Clicker

[lapis bay]

It also makes it cost nothing after a certain point

So spam til best attributes

[near wyvern]

Health can result in less downs

I usually run 2 health 1 wound. I don't go down that often. Basically you want to have only 1 wound more than what you usually go down.

[uncut hamlet]

I feel like it should just let you choose what you want after that point

whats even the point of randomization if its free anyway

[simple gust]

You could be quite tanky with force sword with deflector blessing plus kinetic deflection feat

[manic needle]

A wound can be nice if youre worried about exploding under extreme pressure I guess

[uncut hamlet]

statistically you're guaranteed to get what you want with enough tires

[near wyvern]

Saves some dollars that would have to be spent on a code monkey

[lapis bay]

Very true. Luckily o am really good at resource management, haven’t died to pops

[manic needle]

I cant imagine stacking +3 wounds on Psyker though, my god lol

[ornate hamlet]

It's easier to code, I assume

[unique barn]

well, difficulty is my main point

[lapis bay]

Yeah 3 wounds sounds like a little bit of a waste

[manic needle]

Stack 3 +wound curious if you like having a glass jaw I guess

[uncut hamlet]

A wound makes it so you only lose a third health rather than half on down, and lets you survive that one extra down that will happen sooner or later on heresy damnation

[unique barn]

psyker at damnation is dead in 2 bad hits

regardless

[uncut hamlet]

3 wounds is horrible though lmao

[uncut hamlet]

I guess so

[unique barn]

3 wounds = low health, explode, someone picks you up 80% health

can be done at any time

[uncut hamlet]

So youre banking on blowing up?

[lapis bay]

Yeah but you’re still downed, if in a horde with dogs and trappers it’s gg

[unique barn]

well if nothing is happening its free health

[uncut hamlet]

id rather just have the extra health and toughness

[unique barn]

obviously dont explode when everyone is fucked lol

[uncut hamlet]

youre more likely to die when everything is fucked

you'll be at 80% sure

[unique barn]

tactical use of exploding is good too

[uncut hamlet]

but thats 80% of a lower overall pool anyway

medikae isnt exceptionally rare

[unique barn]

like major horde, explode

sorted lol

[uncut hamlet]

I'd prefer having my extra 30 or so HP that lets me stay alive to next medikae

[uncut hamlet]

for around half a second before the rest of the horde comes and your team is down a member

[near wyvern]

The thing also with wound is that it's diminishing returns.

The more you stack, the less of an effect you get for each.

First +wound makes a wound cost 50% -> 33% so -17%. Second +wound makes it 33% -> 25% so -8%. Third +would makes it 25% -> 20% so -5%.

Diminishing returns...

Where as each health/toughness curio you stack is worth the same, always.

[unique barn]

on damnation you die in 2-3 hits, 30 hp is irrelevant, 3 wounds is not.

[uncut hamlet]

30 hp is not irrelevant on damnation idk where you're getting that from

if you get chain hit yea you die

[unique barn]

the ability to blow yourself up in damnation for less cost, is more powerful

[uncut hamlet]

even an ogryn will go down fast to chain melee hits

[unique barn]

and if you go to low health, just blow up anyway, free heal :p

[uncut hamlet]

The ability to blow up yourself to clear some chaff is powerful?

[lapis bay]

I’ll be honest guys, maybe a hot take but I think wounds outside of grimoires is kinda pointless

[uncut hamlet]

cuz the only elites going down from that is a shotgunner

[uncut hamlet]

1 wound is a good safety net

[manic needle]

And even then you have to be right on top of them

Good luck with surviving long enough to explode vs a shotgunner on damnation

especially if youre stacking wounds

[unique barn]

max peril explosion kills quite a lot of shit, even on damnation

[uncut hamlet]

and then youll be deep in a horde while your team is down a member

[uncut hamlet]

Bro

Ive seen

[manic needle]

Which is even worse

[uncut hamlet]

a lotta opinions on psyker

[near wyvern]

Doesn't even one hit elites, sibling has gone mad 😂

[uncut hamlet]

youre the only one

[lapis bay]

The good ol’ fashioned kamikaze build

[unique barn]

obviously it's tactical lol

[uncut hamlet]

whos advocating blowing yourself up

[uncut hamlet]

Look heres the problem

blow yourself up tactically

[unique barn]

why not

[uncut hamlet]

or

just stay alive

[unique barn]

free health

[uncut hamlet]

and kill more things

[simple gust]

I do run one wound relic but I feel like running more than one would be a waste for me personally and my playstyle

[uncut hamlet]

with your purge staff

[unique barn]

vs 30hp? I'll blow up 3 more times

lol

[uncut hamlet]

Or dont blow up and stay useful?

[unique barn]

always useful

[near wyvern]

You know what also kills a lot of shit on Dmanation? A Purgatus psyker that is alive. And that's not all, it can also pick the downed team mate up and save a run!

[unique barn]

5 second res

[uncut hamlet]

my guy

5 second res

[simple gust]

Maybe I should try out this stacking wounds and blowing up build this weekend after I consume one too many beers

[uncut hamlet]

in the middle of a horde

your ogryn will cry

[unique barn]

Its not about blowing up all the time lmao

[uncut hamlet]

Youre saying tactically blowing yourself up gets you to more HP while clearing chaff

when you can not put that pressure on your team by killing chaff without going down

[unique barn]

it's about it being more worthwhile than tough/hp

[simple gust]

I'll keep an eye out for useful gear.

[manic needle]

I think if I ever see a Psyker stacking +wounds on Damnation Im going to vote kick them automatically on the assumption that theyre going to down themselves to try and clear a bunch of poxwalkers and maybe a shotgunner while the rest of the team is dealing with the full brunt of the actually dangerous things lmao

[uncut hamlet]

and taking more HP means you dont go down anyway

[manic needle]

Just based on this convesation

[near wyvern]

I gotta get the video. Will be good shit to laugh at.

[unique barn]

hahahah

[simple gust]

Hey now, it does sound like a good drunk build. Don't knock it entirely.

[uncut hamlet]

absolutely not

[unique barn]

i clear damnation all the time

[uncut hamlet]

Everything is viable doesnt mean

everything is good

I run fs without deflector and purge staff

because I like it

[lapis bay]

Do snipers do a wound damage or is it always a flat %?

[uncut hamlet]

im not arguing that its good

[unique barn]

flat

[uncut hamlet]

flat damage, not even %

its just a hard hitting bullet

[simple gust]

When you're so drunk you're dying anyways, may as well go out with a bang.

[manic needle]

Your build and strategy gets 1 chance with a random pickup, if I ever see it

[lapis bay]

So wounds would be good for snipers hahaha

[unique barn]

+3 wounds, it is the way

[uncut hamlet]

As I said earlier, wounds is a good safety net

[uncut hamlet]

This proves nothing

I can do that with a trauma staff and no perks

does that mean trauma no perks is good?

[unique barn]

true

[uncut hamlet]

lol

[unique barn]

but at least its proof that i use +3 in damnation :p

[uncut hamlet]

+30% hp and 20% toughness might be less impactful in certain moments

but it doesnt have the potential for ending a mission like going down does

its always consistently good

[unique barn]

Look I have 4 30's and toughness and health are optimal for other classes, given builds. +3 wounds is the way for psyker.

[uncut hamlet]

I cant count how many times a clutch has happened at sub 20% hp

on any class

[lapis bay]

Truth

[unique barn]

being able to reset your health, is fucking ace

[uncut hamlet]

without those toughness health perks, those clutches dont happen

[unique barn]

over and above the fact you can just blow up in stacks (tactically)

[lapis bay]

I think going down with a lot of wounds is a 200 IQ move if you can trust your group and they’re in cohesion. Otherwise it’s just too big a risk in wiping

[unique barn]

sure if the group is shit, fuck it

[uncut hamlet]

I'll take the 66% reset over 80% reset. Why? 30% overall HP + 20% toughness is better to me than the +14% extra HP from reset

[unique barn]

i'm talking optimal use here

if i have 1 hp

explode, 80hp

[manic needle]

I mean intentionally dying to clear corruption is a legitimate strategy in the right situation too.

[uncut hamlet]

So a lot of wounds is good in a good group. You know what else is good in a good group? health and toughness

[lapis bay]

Agreed, just appreciating that you can do both in certain circumstances and not be fucked for it

[uncut hamlet]

66% of 130 hp is

78

youre losing out on 2 hp

[unique barn]

psyker is the only class that can intentionally die, when nothing is happening

[uncut hamlet]

for less toughness and less hp befoe you go down

[unique barn]

1 hp in an elevator

explode

80hp

[lapis bay]

Imagine if it was lore accurate and overloading in peril turned you into a DH

[uncut hamlet]

^

[unique barn]

that would be fun!

[uncut hamlet]

I much prefer the consistency of hp and toughness over wound stacking

plus

it annoys your team less

and far less chance of getting kicked

[unique barn]

in damnation +48% toughness means fuck all, and so does +60% health

[lapis bay]

I’ll just say this: if I’m grouped with a premade and we have a psyker resetting before a boss fight, I won’t be mad at all

[unique barn]

opportunity to explode for free health many times = good

[uncut hamlet]

Im willing to bet that extra toughness and health ends up blocking more dmg than an extra 2 wounds

[uncut hamlet]

if youre premade you wont be kicking anyway

moot counterpoint

[lapis bay]

Not necessarily, was talking about being upset at them dying

[uncut hamlet]

youd have communicated what youre doing

assuming premades is never a viable argument

[unique barn]

look if some asshat turns up and explodes all the time, wanker

but exploding is the way in a good group

[uncut hamlet]

so

youre saying

[unique barn]

yeah

said it already

[uncut hamlet]

resetting to 80 60 40 20

is better than

[manic needle]

All it takes is 1 poxwalker or a ledge, usually not that hard to find in Darktide

[uncut hamlet]

this

and simply not

going down

more than once

[unique barn]

if you're getting hit by poxwalkers your group is already fucked

[manic needle]

If youre intentionally dying?

[unique barn]

Tactically

or just to reset health

[uncut hamlet]

because that's is an extra 132 hit points total. Of that, 72 will constantly regenerate.

[manic needle]

I presume if youre intentionally killing yourself then your team isnt going to be fucked by it, or if they are then I hope you get kicked

[uncut hamlet]

if you think

132 hit points means fuck all

then

maybe you need to rethink your points

[unique barn]

132 extra hp? are you on drugs?

[simple gust]

I'm doing this this weekend guys. I'm running 3 wounds and blowing up

[uncut hamlet]

extra damage total

72 toughness 60 hp

[simple gust]

Gotta have lots of booze though

[unique barn]

what planet

base is 100/150

3 curios

[uncut hamlet]

48% of 150

is 72

60% of 100

idk you calculate

add them tgt

[unique barn]

which is one more hit

(i'd do health fwiw)

[uncut hamlet]

oh mb did i swap them? 60 that constantly regenerate

so

60 regenerating dmg

[unique barn]

but 3 more explosions from 1% health would be how much health

[uncut hamlet]

flat 72 between medikae

is worse

[unique barn]

(without medicae)

[uncut hamlet]

than 2 more wounds?

WDYM WITHOUT MEDIKAE

[unique barn]

hahaha

1 to 80

1 to 60

[uncut hamlet]

"Yea my build is better if you take out a core part of the game"

[unique barn]

1 to 40

thats a lot of health

[uncut hamlet]

if you wanna talk about regenerating damage

that 60 toughness

blows the amount of health you got out of the water

in 1 horde

yes, it takes more damage at times

[unique barn]

dude if you're packing toughness on a psyker you're already lost

[uncut hamlet]

and yes, it isnt 1:1

but youre still

[lapis bay]

I do for kinetic barrier

[uncut hamlet]

blocking more lol

nah you cant argue this with math

[simple gust]

Do you yell Muhammad Jihad when you run into enemies to blow them up?

[uncut hamlet]

it doesnt work

you can make points

math isnt one of them

with that extra health and toughness I'd be surprised if I even went down once between medikae, assuming a good group as you are doing

[lapis bay]

The only reason I’d argue against toughness is because of fire/pox damage

[unique barn]

in damnation?

[lapis bay]

Insta 0

[uncut hamlet]

even if I were to go down once, id end up with more health than your 80%

[uncut hamlet]

Yes. I go 1/1/1 rn, and I rarely go down more than once between medikae with good teams of randos

[unique barn]

dude you can do anything you want in Malice lol

[uncut hamlet]

What do you want me to show you my damnation border too or smth?

[unique barn]

I'm trying to build you for the future

[orchid nest]

toughness has other weaknesses. some enemies do large damage multipliers to it, like shotgunners, snipers.

[uncut hamlet]

this guy really assumes im playing malice

how egotistical

"He doesnt go down? Must be malice"

[uncut hamlet]

fr it does

[unique barn]

You're the guy stacking toughness lol

[simple gust]

If he doesn't go down, then you have a boyfriend problem.

[uncut hamlet]

but since he wants to point out the health youre getting total, im pointing out the total damage youll block with the stats he used as an example as blocking more

[uncut hamlet]

i recommend

you scroll up

[unique barn]

click on the pin, top right

read

get back to me

[uncut hamlet]

?

[uncut hamlet]

?

When did I say im stacking toughness

[lapis bay]

Focused channeling or warp flurry for purgatus?

[uncut hamlet]

I like flurry, just preference

[unique barn]

.

[uncut hamlet]

Waiting less is always nice

I've been using your example stats LOL

[manic needle]

Does Flurry actually do anything on Purgatus? It doesnt on Surge

[uncut hamlet]

nah you dont get it, nvm

[manic needle]

Voidstrike is the only staff Ive used the recieves a benefit from it

[unique barn]

my stats, like +3 wounds?

[uncut hamlet]

since you assume a good group, I aint going down more than once even with 1/1/1

[uncut hamlet]

nah you can look for it

[orchid nest]

Not really past maybe one stack but I think they will change it and then you will want it.

[lapis bay]

I have to test it, it feels like sometimes the full charge up is a smidge less slow but it could be confirmation bias

[uncut hamlet]

hopefully they change it yea

but focused isnt great either

so Iprefer not having to wait

nexus if you can honestly

since it affects melee too

[manic needle]

Yeah but for now Id rather just aim to get the blessing on any staff for transfer later down the line, while I gear up for what works now. But it's hard to play for the ideal in the current system, too.

[stray pond]

Speaking of staff blessings, does Run and Gun even work on staves?

[uncut hamlet]

who knows, maybe theyll do a nice update soon

[unique barn]

So you'd rate 60hp over the ability to refresh hp (and do damage) 4x, in damnation?

[uncut hamlet]

copium

[uncut hamlet]

it does

Its a nice qol

even if its seen as worse

[stray pond]

Does it work for the Secondary attack on the staff or just primary

[unique barn]

Run away lad 🙂

[manic needle]

The update: "-Kinetic Deflection nerfed. That's it, that's the patch"

[uncut hamlet]

lets you quickly stagger enemies as you run past em

[orchid nest]

Yeah for sure, I haven't been lucky enough to get 2 ideal blessings on something with good rating anyways, either current or future planning haha

[violet thorn]

you mean the pin about that dumb motherfucker who outright told me that if you dont center you build around bugs that "its trolling"

[uncut hamlet]

I wouldnt even be surpised lmao

[uncut hamlet]

just primary fire

so like, either the little bolts on trauma/surge/void

[stray pond]

Damn.

[unique barn]

No the toughness math that Sodium is ignoring

[uncut hamlet]

or the short fire burst on purge

[violet thorn]

idk who is more retarded, him or the train accident patient who pinned it

[unique barn]

oh tell me you use a purge staff in damnation

lol

[violet thorn]

"we have more health than toughness, so those % go farther"

[stray pond]

Then with that in mind is this staff worth using, I assume it's pretty alright but I'm probably wrong

[manic needle]

Yeah Im glad to have gotten good rolls on Voidstrike, even if its not the staff I want to be using.

With this system the RNG can determine your build rather than you doing it, it seems.

[uncut hamlet]

I've cleared damnation with every staff wdym

[unique barn]

It's poor

[uncut hamlet]

and idk why youre cherry picking what I say

I was answering a question

[prime sluice]

It even gonna matter what I roll on my last blessing here?

[violet thorn]

He shut the fuck up when I asked him how easy it is to regen hp compared to toughness

[unique barn]

yeah

[orchid nest]

you're hoping for warp nexus

[uncut hamlet]

look, you dont seem to be able to read really

so im not

[violet thorn]

as if all those insane toughness regens dont exist

[uncut hamlet]

gonna really reply to you

[manic needle]

Get yourself some +crit and remove run and gun as soon as youre able to, then the only regrettable thing is the charge rate IMO

[blazing oak]

Eh you could get the uninterruptible channel blessing

[uncut hamlet]

Charge rate isnt too important on surge if I remember right? I dont use it too often

[unique barn]

Continue on

[prime sluice]

Im hoping for nothing, tried hoping for bleed on non weak spot hits on the 380 knife I got on my zealot yesterday, didnt work out lol

[unique barn]

+3 wounds is the way

[orchid nest]

Well.. yeah I can't argue with that. But warp nexus is the best blessing for purg, crits give 2 soulblaze stacks

[manic needle]

Its not, so having it low isnt that big of a deal. Between the two Id rather have high charge/low warp resist as far as dump stats go

[prime sluice]

Sucks cuz it has bleed stacks on crit hits. Ty for that

[manic needle]

There are times when fully charging is useful against Ragers and the like

[violet thorn]

dont even bother responding, kids really be trippin

3 wounds

my god

[uncut hamlet]

higher warp resistmeans you can stun more between quells though

[violet thorn]

[uncut hamlet]

fr i gave up on him

the guy lost track of the convo halfway too

[prime sluice]

Just equip whatever is the highest number obviously, git gud

[violet thorn]

FR

my sides

[unique barn]

lol

[blazing oak]

+3 wounds sounds like a Perils of the Warp explosion meme

[stray pond]

I had a time where I was running +3 wounds because I was just that bad at managing perils- No scratch that, just that bad. Suffice to say I'm not doing it anymore.

[manic needle]

Listen, if it works for someone here with their group, then it works. Im not going to recommend that build for anyone looking for advice though.

[uncut hamlet]

Nah anything works. Thats not the issue

the issue is when you try and push it as optimal

[simple gust]

I'm seriously getting drunk this weekend and when I start playing drunk then I'm going to go suicide bombing on heretic asses with that 3 wounds and perils of the warp build. It's the only time I'd personally find it useful lol.

[manic needle]

Yeah basically what Im saying

[severe trout]

no optimal

optmal is playing good

practice

[uncut hamlet]

fr skill > build

[simple gust]

I'm still looking for a warp sword with deflector

[blazing oak]

Mind in motion and I regret nothing

[blazing oak]

Wish gifting was a thing

[unique barn]

partially, but think about it, +48 toughness (gone in half a hit in damnation), or +90 health (one hit in damnation). Versus 3 more explosions (tactically or not), that can reset your health to 150-(20%).

[simple gust]

I've bought all swords I can find and upgraded them too

[manic needle]

In my experience the leeway that high resist vs mid resist gives you is minimal

[uncut hamlet]

got one the other day but its pre shit, so im just keeping it to eat its blessing later

it took me a month

[blazing oak]

+2 stamina >:)

[uncut hamlet]

It might be yea, I really havent used it much

I get the appeal

but i like damage

doing it, specifically

[simple gust]

I found a+3 stamina relic

[unique barn]

why do you need stam on a psyker

[covert valve]

yeah its broken its just a placebo effect on the purge

[manic needle]

Surge is actually quite good for damaging the things I find most annoying: Scab shooters behind cover

[uncut hamlet]

Honestly dude, run 3 stam relics

[blazing oak]

Was a joke, but I can see it for the kinetic deflection tank builds

[uncut hamlet]

think about it

why do you need to have health, wounds, or toughness

[manic needle]

And it can stunlock dreg shooters while the team destroys them which is really nice

[uncut hamlet]

if you run awya from every damage source

you wont take any damage

[unique barn]

who tanks on damnation?

[uncut hamlet]

so its all irrelevant

[unique barn]

lmao

[blazing oak]

Or as an Example for using mind in motion and so you don’t have kinetic deflection so stamina counts more and more running distance

[uncut hamlet]

guys never done a clutch res in his life

[manic needle]

Kinetic Deflector build actually benefit significantly from it. With enough of it you can effortlessly tank a daemonhost without dodging

[blazing oak]

This is a damnation only discussion?

[manic needle]

With that said I wouldnt personally min/max for it

[simple gust]

I BB shooters behind cover. Charge it while in cover, pop out to tag, then back to finish charging. Works great for snipers too, you can tag faster than they can shoot.

[unique barn]

nah, but end game theory is

[severe trout]

me too

[uncut hamlet]

BB works great for snipers yea

[blazing oak]

I use preference theory

[unique barn]

BB is pointless late game, wish it was better

[uncut hamlet]

have yall seen the astartes animation?

Wish BB worked like that instead

a DoT

same dps

but just lets you hold it on tougher enemies

[unique barn]

it was pre-beta

sad that it was nerfed

[manic needle]

Hold a Space Marine in place for a few seconds until you get knifed in the back? 😛

[uncut hamlet]

those psykers were badasses lmao

but the concept of a dot instead

[unique barn]

yeah they're unsanctioned though

[uncut hamlet]

Best part of the animation imo

when he tore out the spinal cord

looked sick

[manic needle]

That episode was definitely one of the best

But the series got better as it went on more or less

[uncut hamlet]

and why are their psykinetic wraths so much better than us

we go

"I think its time to die!"

and the enemies like

stumble a bit

[unique barn]

you need more wounds

[uncut hamlet]

meanwhile theyre blasting space marines back to the mourningstar

[uncut hamlet]

Stamina*

your autocorrect sucks bro

[unique barn]

relax man

it's over, we'll get through this together

[simple gust]

I won't

[uncut hamlet]

Nah trust me

Stam stack

It even alliterates

[unique barn]

oh an educated fellow

[uncut hamlet]

Stam stack hold block with kinetic the entire mission

Take aggro, take 0 damage

Ez dubs

[unique barn]

or could just wounds and explode

😉

[lapis bay]

Just don’t block fire or snipers

[uncut hamlet]

That just means you don't have enough stamina

[lapis bay]

https://tenor.com/view/dance-working-out-hyper-gif-14431409

[severe trout]

i want a grey knight class in this game. would balance things out for sure

[unique barn]

yeah, a lot of this convo relys on a decent party

[uncut hamlet]

Fuck your staff, your thicc thighs are gonna crush that trappers skull

[lapis bay]

LOL grey knight would stomp everything. I wanna be Ordo Malleus

[unique barn]

like purgatus is pointless with a good zealot, who needs support from a good shooter, etc

[manic needle]

On a serious note though apparently +stamina on your weapon is marginally more efficient than +block efficiency, as far as Kinetic Deflection is concerned

[uncut hamlet]

I wanna be an ordo docket

[unique barn]

throw a fast ogryn in, maybe

[uncut hamlet]

Oh? Interesting

[manic needle]

According to the testing people were doing

You end up getting an extra percentage point or two on some attacks

[uncut hamlet]

That's pretty cool

3 +3 Stam relics

[lapis bay]

Really really cool, gunna test it out. What do you guys think our subclass is gunna be?

[uncut hamlet]

+Stam +sprint efficiency weapon

You're gonna get through that level before the enemies can spawn

[unique barn]

on an ogryn, yeah

[manic needle]

Apparently its a defensive class coming up for us...

[simple gust]

Ogryns are so fucking slow

[lapis bay]

Marine Librarian? Ez

[uncut hamlet]

Can they please make our offence better then

[lapis bay]

Or at least faster

[manic needle]

"No." -Fatshark Devs

[uncut hamlet]

It'll probably be locked behind a dlc

[lapis bay]

Do you think we’ll need an extra character slot for it?

People were speculating cause of the 5 slots versus 4 classes…..

[uncut hamlet]

I sure as fuck hope not

[severe trout]

sure of it

[manic needle]

Yeah if they charge for subclasses when we start with 4, Im writing up a negative steam review and probably never coming back

[uncut hamlet]

I haven't played my Hagrid yet but I want to

[manic needle]

so there's that

[lapis bay]

Watch the DLC class be a paid gate into power armor

[severe trout]

yeah that would be some bs

[ashen schooner]

Does hitting a bulwark shield count as hitting an enemy/it?

[lapis bay]

Yes, but no damage

[hazy locust]

I was told this is where the red-headed stepchildren gather?

[lapis bay]

Bleed works through their shield, burn too even if no direct swing damage

[unique barn]

yeah

they dont do +3 wounds

[ashen schooner]

Hmm good to know for some perks (and one vet penance)

[simple gust]

Why are the blessings and perks opposite on weapons and relics?

[hazy locust]

To make you drink

[uncut hamlet]

its immeasurably complex

you wouldnt understand

[simple gust]

I mean, it doesn't have to be complex for me to not understand lol

[hazy locust]

Anyone else rocking the striped circus pants?

[lapis bay]

Throne Agents when

[manic needle]

No, the Zealots who main Combat Knife and charge far ahead of the party and die are in #zealot-class

We burn them at the stake for the good of humanity

[hazy locust]

eyes my husband

[lapis bay]

https://tenor.com/view/bow-arrows-shoot-hit-gif-12968662

Wif me axe

[hazy locust]

It be your own wife.

[severe trout]

just like someone that played with me today

[lapis bay]

The emperor protects

[hazy locust]

Had a guy today charging into everything and area denying the party by exploding every barrel and mine as he ran past. I’ll let you guess if he went BACK after we passed the DH to aggro it in the middle of a horde.

[simple gust]

The emperor says there is strength in ignorance. Am very strong.

[unique barn]

run +3 wounds, if shit goes down, just explode

fuck those guys

[hazy locust]

I’m gonna fkn run 47 wounds to keep ‘em guessing mate.

[manic needle]

The Emperor doesn't protect filthy heretics and they fucking die. My desire to burn them at the stake is vindicated.

[lapis bay]

https://tenor.com/view/invincible-alan-cumming-fire-boris-goldeneye-gif-10950711

[severe trout]

some days ago i was playing with a dude and i spotted a daemonhost. he instantly shot it in the head... it was only him, me and 2 bots. instant alt+f4

[lapis bay]

https://tenor.com/view/anakin-starwars-itsworking-gif-5028819

How it feels to go max wounds

[unique barn]

❤️

5x

[simple gust]

Perils of the Queefer.

I mean, warp.

[hazy locust]

I’m gonna roll an alt and name it BandAidBrand and go max wounds, just so my husband has to carry me.

Serves him right for being a combat knife zealot

[unique barn]

Call it IgetMechanicsinDamnation

[hazy locust]

“AllMyRollsAreWounds”

[unique barn]

wave

[lapis bay]

https://tenor.com/view/indiana-jones-gif-6250199

[simple gust]

Did you know you can't have Queef in your name but I saw on Reddit they let JewMurderer go through. But I can't have a psyker named Queefer Sutherland.

[blazing oak]

+3 wounds on other classes too?

[hazy locust]

We need to start a change. Org petition

[unique barn]

naw, health on ogryn, tough on SS, Zealot is a mix - depends on which build (invicibility vs damage)

[simple gust]

It also blocks vagina and every slang word for it

[unique barn]

Zealot can have a lot of toughness regen/insta

[blazing oak]

But that health be going down as fast as psyker

[idle shuttle]

wounds build meta

[lapis bay]

Tough being a glass cannon when the game spawns enemies behind you for not looking

[idle shuttle]

dual wield books

[hazy locust]

Vagina is a myth

There is only glory for the emperor

[unique barn]

toughness is also decreasingly useful at higher difficulty

[simple gust]

I heard about vagina in the prophecy of legends

[uncut hamlet]

Glass cannon? what class are you playing?

highest dmg class is also tanky

[idle shuttle]

https://images-ext-2.discordapp.net/external/ejuxnpLsoGDlE12EjYPP7SiAwA8XLNVIcRYuDe7r6oc/https/media.tenor.com/OdS820TuO78AAAPo/wii-bowling.mp4

[severe trout]

(fun question) You guys and gals play: 😋 : for fun and stress relief or 😡 : to win and be great

[manic needle]

I appreciate that people are joining the conversation and memeing on poor Salis without even realizing what theyre doing.

The internet can be a beautiful place

[unique barn]

😉

[simple gust]

I survive better on my psyker than I do on my shield ogryn

[unique barn]

(and also that Salis doesn't bother)

[blazing oak]

https://tenor.com/view/dead-gif-22882514

Your strategy on damnation?
@unique barn

[hazy locust]

I play so I can have max run speed and call my husband slow to watch the vein in his forehead stick out. Idk about anyone else.

[severe trout]

that's a great motive

[hazy locust]

Keeps it fresh

[lapis bay]

https://tenor.com/view/sloth-walking-slow-slow-mo-asi-cuando-gif-9747136

[unique barn]

Vanilla

[hazy locust]

Bruh

[unique barn]

surely

[simple gust]

I also play with my husband. He farts in the microphone just to make sure I can hear it over my headphones.

[lapis bay]

That’s a great idea

[hazy locust]

Marriage goals

[lapis bay]

Then people will definitely know I play zealot

[hazy locust]

“What did he say?”

“He said this shit sucks”

[unique barn]

Hey

[severe trout]

my gf have labyrinthitis so she can't even watch me play ;-;

[unique barn]

Anyone run +2 wounds?

[simple gust]

@lapis bay @lapis bay he plays zealot

[uncut hamlet]

I play for the emperor

[lapis bay]

I run all the time, can’t afford to be hit

[unique barn]

What about +3

[severe trout]

i was looking for THIS answer

[hazy locust]

That means she had an untapped RNG - better start letting her check the shop for you after refresh

[hazy locust]

+4 wounds dude

[lapis bay]

My wife has some godly ass RNG no lie

[unique barn]

how does that equate to +80% health on a psyker in damnation

[hazy locust]

Yeah, what a jerk she is.

https://tenor.com/view/tough-crowd-comedian-fix-tie-rodney-dangerfield-gif-17837054

[hazy locust]

See if you smoke enough weed…

[simple gust]

He should probably punish her.

[hazy locust]

Nah she takes that as encouragement

[unique barn]

I only smoke crack

[lapis bay]

Explains the wound build

[unique barn]

THERE YOU GO

[hazy locust]

Should still work!

[blazing oak]

His explanation is that health and toughness aren’t worth it because it goes away in one hit or half a hit

On damnation

[lapis bay]

Just kidding btw wounds are pretty solid against viable enemies, memeing around

[uncut hamlet]

*at 0 toughness

[hazy locust]

Maybe it’s +3 wounds and god rolls on the other stats so it seems really good?

[blazing oak]

I do +1 wounds, would do more if the curios actually gave me +2 on a single curio

[hazy locust]

I can see it if you like to face off with Flamers

[simple gust]

He fluffs them before he kills them

[unique barn]

why bother, just full health

[mental vortex]

this worth using?

[blazing oak]

?

[unique barn]

no

[blazing oak]

Everything Is worth using if you are good enough

[lapis bay]

Is power the same as weapon attack or is it a diff metric?

[mental vortex]

I have no idea

emperor gifted it to me

[unique barn]

with +3 wounds

[mental vortex]

and idk if its worth anything

[blazing oak]

So +1 wounds Garbo but +3 wounds meta?

[hazy locust]

https://tenor.com/view/these-wounds-wont-seem-to-heal-pained-broken-heartbroken-emotional-gif-14316458

[simple gust]

Try it out and see how you like it.

[mental vortex]

I usually enjoy axes

[lapis bay]

If only we could use two axes

[mental vortex]

I also have a butter knife