#psyker-class
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that can block bullets with a blessing
and I'm okay with the fsword being all strikedown - it's not meant to clear the horde
you want the fsword to be the psyker's power sword?
I like force sword already tbh
Blocking bullets and longer push range is already pretty nice
all powerful in every situation?
Are you saying 2,4,9,18,27,37 is closer to 2^x than x^2 or am I misunderstanding you? x^2 was the closest approximation I had for just looking at the first 6; does it do something different if I test beyond 6 stacks?
I'm saying keep testing more stacks
you'll see the damage values don't maintain that progression
yea if theyd just change light 2 from that stupid upswing id be content
thematically, I like the upswing
I'm already used to doing light->heavy
it makes sense
not for an assassin fineese weapon
I mean.. I would be nice to have another viable horde clear weapon because only like 2 of the axes cut the mustard there really as far as melee options go, but maybe not change FS to compensate for that hole because its already got barrels of utility
absolutely kills your damage
Theoretically, crucian roulette +soulblaze on crit.
Bleeding Combat Knife VS Duel Sword
Oh that reminds me, need to check if crucian makes BB crit 
that's.... something I'm going to want to test later, now
Dueling sword cause I miss saltz rapier 
I also don't like the light 2, feels like an intentionally sub optimal swing put in for balance reasons. which is fine in theory because that's common for them to do since vermintide. but the problem is that it isn't over performing
I really want to test fsword with bloodthirsty and blazing spirit
blazing spirit + shred isn't that good
It can’t be x^2. if x is the number of stack the damages would be even lower 🤔
its fine if the bodyshot damage wasnt horrendous or if it was fast like ds
yeah
I don't think smite gets any boost from finesse hits.
There's no downside to having a swipe. 🤷♂️
Why do weapon (template) block cost defaults have lerp_perfect and lerp_basic ranges, does some weapon stat affect block cost
if you mean the special, then it does benefit from finesse, because finesse directly impacts your crit chance
The perfect/basic is used for if the weapon has a relevant stat bar, otherwise it defaults to 50%.
Which one better
sounds like different block cost progressions for blocking consecutive attacks
Smite is brainburst.
And because there is no stat that affects block cost, it's always 50%?
oh, well then of course not, you aren't even using a weapon when you're brainbursting
Purgatus needs burn stat
burn is primary stat, and warp nexus is primary blessing
you want crit chance for perk as well
yeah it's unfortunate that the better one doesn't have nexus but I'd still use the higher burn one. if nexus was higher tier than maybe it would be worth considering
warp resist lets you apply more dots more frequently
yeah, burn has highest priority
@light citrus burn directly sets how many stacks of soulblaze the staff can place on an enemy
you guys are mentally preparing yourselves for when FartShart changes non-force melee passive quell to be even slower than fsword, right?
Which One better
Does soulblaze applied by purgatus work in fractional stacks? I am getting numbers that don't line up with stacks from Ascendant Blaze.
Force sword has too many gamechanging traits.
nope
what behavior are you seeing?
Free venting on hit, soulblaze on crit, deflector, slaughterer.
it's possible that AB soulblaze isn't stacking with purge soulblaze, though I thought the last patch fixed that
I like having a weapon that can be used for multiple builds
I just wish bloodthirsty wasn't so damned hard to get
for real
Equipped Purgatus staff to test, Ascendant Blaze damage numbers changed to 1/5/9/15/27/37. Purgatus left click dot ticks for 2, applied 2 more stacks with Ascendant blaze for ticks of 10.
I don't find the quell peril on repeated weakspot hit very useful
maybe AB stacks are affected by warp charges?
or rather, soulblaze is affected by your warp charges
AB should clear them, tested without any stacks on purgatus left click as well.
AB doesn't clear soulblaze stacks, your ult does
Ult with AB does.
honestly, I'd rather AB didn't cause your ult to clear your warp charges
You get most of them back if you used it to burn enough people.
it's so stupid to have any ability consume warp charges without us having a ready and reliable way to get them back
ab not clearing charges would be hilarious with kinetic overload in some situations
it would be
and it'd be fun
drop it from 4 to 3 stacks of soulblaze, and let 'er rip
remember, psyker is supposed to be a glass cannon
it's time for the psyker to feel like a cannon again
oh yeah I think it would be a fine change
hell, while we're at it, make Wrack and Ruin proc off BB'ing anything
have BB apply stacks of soulblaze on the target, and if the target dies from BB, then have soulblaze stacks move to nearby enemies
would be fine with base max being 6 charges too and warp battery being higher or completely different feat
yeah, warp charges need to have more individual effect
Fire: are you testing against a specific enemy type? Remember, soulblaze tick damage is affected by your weapon perks
so for example if your weapon has enough +infested, you get +2 instead of +1
Question : sometimes my psyker stops bullets with his weapon. You talk here about deflector. Is it an inner characteristic of some weapon ? Or it is only a blessing ?
I feel like the flow of the class is backwards to be honest. It would feel better for an action game if warp charges were a resource gained over time and modified by actions/feats that you spent on instant cast or fast casting bb's and you are making the choice between burst damage or passive damage when you use them
fuck it didn't embed
I downloaded and watched it anyways
You didn't know you could do this? No wonder you thought melee damage was more of a threat.
360 block with peril block makes melee so braindead
that's really interesting
there we go
Been testing on the exact same enemy types, switching weapons made a difference but neither staff had anything against unarmoured which just confused me.
definitely starting to see some drawbacks to less wounds. getting deleted by a group of shotgunners hurts
still the extra toughness I'm finding is very impactful
I used to go with more toughness and less hp btw. I only started getting some health recently because i want to safely run grims
yeah, the fact that you can push freely with the fsword is what makes it braindead
grims on psyker base hp is too cancer
as soon as you couldn't peril block any more, you immediately lost your toughness and took health damage, though
Yeah but normally i wouldn't deliberately walk into a horde and do nothing while facing backwards
I just assumed it was like vermintide where you have a normal block angle and the outside/back one where it costs much more stamina/peril to block from behind
Was just doing it for the clip
yes this is correct
lunch time, bbiab
god damn that's a spicy meatball
Ha! In Chasm Station Assassination you can jump inside textures next to elevator for easy isolated Boss kill (he will come to you there)
so everyone stacks and he doesn't try to use his gun or something?
he does
kinda
he just behaves normally mostly in melee
the horde can get to you though although they only come from one spot and theres not a lot of room to move around there and you can fall off the map
interesting
Highly recommend getting +25% flak for anyone running force sword btw
Got it on my force sword recently and i love how i can just barely kill this (it dies in 2 with psykinetic's wrath feat)
at least they did learn on the assassination bosses from v2. the v2 launch with bosses was always anti climatic when your one "boss guy" would just 1 shot it
It sounds like such a minor thing but killing this trash mob in 2 is so nice
flak is nice for being able to 1 shot special the armored ragers with light attacks and maulers with the heavy on non head ones. although any flak breakpoints start to get muddied if you have slaughterer
Yeah i wish i had slaughterer, but i don't so instead i have to use a perk to hit breakpoints on trash mobs
I feel you. I have slaughterer but not on any one that has something else I want to use
imagine swinging 3 times to kill garbage
I want to try slaughterer and bloodthirsty. it should make it to where you can 1 shot most trash on body shots with fs, and head shots would be insane. like yeah no deflector but still
anyone here run essence harvest on a non-AB build?
gun psykers
I've been running it with dueling/trauma. Interesting change of pace from the other two options
Wow it never occurred to me that gun psykers are basically fucked when it comes to t1 feats
Doesn't Quietude work while gun is out?
Sure but what are they building peril with?
I saw someone link a chocob video recently and he was using harvest with trauma too
Special attack laspistol or something? lol
Anytime peril is quelled Quietude triggers.
They'd have to go out of there way to do something that generates peril first
just to quell it
BB would trigger the peril enough to get value from the feat.
That's what got me thinking about it. It's way better than I was giving it credit for previously
Yeah it's definitely a viable choice on non purg as long as you are using kb and aura too
Flayer in there as well
yeah
Randomly getting that juicy 30% in the middle of cleaning up a trash horde is just so nice
I mean i used to run essence harvest with surge staff. With the rng warp charge feats, it's not bad and you can start a fight with some toughness regen just passively going. Works fine
I just like quietude more now
I was recently trying it on surge too. definitely has upsides and downsides. it would be awesome in general if fs special gave you a charge
Psyker's kit is kinda fucked, but one thing that's pretty good is that all 3 toughness generating feats have their place and can be viable with different playstyles/builds.
The other classes either have 1 garbage feat, or one that's so good that it renders the others irrelevant
Our tier 1 feats are genuinely well designed
yeah. I just wish everything felt as good as it does for purg synergy wise. I mean not in a pure power way, I'm not saying the other stuff isn't good. Just that it could all fit together as well.
I really dont know what I'm doing anymore lol
I swapped to doing heresy since I got all my malice penances done, and everything is just significantly harder now
Heresy and Damn, is really whre you will be tested with knowing melee/combat mechanics well. Since getting hit way far more punishing.
like, doing heresy on zealot feels easy compared to this
I do know my stuff, it just feels like I'm fighting for my damn life 24/7 compared to zealot
Psyker is the most "fragile" in a sense since we have no damage reduction, the smallest HP pool.
I can't confirm but it SEEMS like the toughness regeneration is on active quell rather than passive quell. Not that I've tested
i've heard that they're considered a glass cannon, but I very much do not feel the cannon part
Depends on your loadout
Its not really a glass cannon, its just a different playstyle.
Other classes live through damage mitigation. Zealot has their 75% damage reduction and instant toughness on ult, Vets have their 200 toughness and 75% ranged damage reduction
Psyker lives through completely avoiding damage, and has tools to do it.
Your ult is a panic button that can save you, you have good toughness regen, peril block makes melee a lot safer, and your staves are all pretty safe to use if you're good at using cover
works on passive quell
so far i've tried... some with surge staff, some with trauma staff, and all with a force sword since it's my only decently rolled melee
Quietude triggers on any peril reduction, from kills or passive.
I could just wait for a purge staff in the store, but it seems like every psyker is going purge
I mostly use surge staff, and against gunners i just abuse the fact that i basically don't need to be out of cover 99% of the time.
You only need line of sight with them for a split second to do your job
barely even have to look at the enemies
yep, as a surge main, I'm constantly ducking in and out of cover
I also use teammates as mobile cover, especially ogryns
I think all staff's are fine, its mainly what you enjoy more. Surge is unmatched for cc/gunner lock down. Plus it allows you to melee specials/elites. But horrible at horde. Purg has powerful feat synergy and horde clear, but lacks range power. Void probably best all around for damage/horde/utility plus its bugged atm so arguably best staff.
I get waaaay up there, Morty
yeah ok, very fair tbh
Trauma is most underwhelming, but thats balancing in bad numbers and very high peril generation.
what makes void bugged?
peril gain
There is a like rmb quell animation bug
I'd really like to use trauma, but I feel like I'm ruining everyone elses gameplan using it by throwing enemies around everywhere
This may be an unpopular opinion but I feel like void is a win more staff. It does what it does great when not pressured but then falls apart when it matters most.
and you gain the peril for each one
not sure that's a bug, really
You can quell cancel lmb too
yeh some weird animation canceling stuff going on with void atm from last patch
not really i think it can handle pressure pretty well stuns crushers and maulers
I like trauma staff since it builds up peril really quickly, so I can vent it for quietude
I sometimes quell cancel lmb on surge staff for long range
"we have voidstrike at home"
yeah, I don't care about that, because bug or not, you're still suffering the peril for each shot
and it's horribly peril inefficient
I also play dangerous with "just how far away I can hit thing with surge"
Join us. Listen to the whispers and storm crashes of the purgatus staff
Purg staff is heresy
yeah idk it just feels bad when the pressure is high. with surge or purg you can dance around and recover a lot easier. even trauma can do precise min charges to stagger well.
am I blind or did the game just spawn in more shooters here?
I dont even have a purg staff thats over 200 lol
well the charged shot peril gain is definitely a bug surprised they havent fixed it
A lot of people freak out about min max, but general any weapon above 350(ish) with good perks/blessings/modifier works into damnation. Its just store RNG and luck more than anything else.
Fr 80% of this game is how good your ability to prioritise threats is
Other 20% is knowing game mechanics
I definitely like how skill is a big part of success
but I also enjoy min-maxing gear effectiveness
Yeah honestly weapon rating isn't a huge deal. I just like getting good rolls so i can upgrade stuff and not feel like i'll randomly find something better to replace it
which is why I get upset at just how clunky the various psyker mechanics are
The minmax is fun but frustrating cause of shop rng. But seriously most of the time its gameplay + game sense more than loadout/class.
I just want a warp charge rework tbh
Meta is always bogus anyway, if you like something, odds are you'll be just as effective with it even if its not up there with the best things, provided you learn the game anyway
Yeh ditto
Psychic Communion should be baseline IMO. Not feat.
Darktide needs a complete crafting system first
Fixes the entire class identity issue with warp charge
it wouldn't be so bad if we had more ways of generating warp charges
Yeh that early access Crafting Coming Soon tm.
I mean if that was baseline you would have no issues every. I cannot ever not see running that feat.
At least Flayer gives them
Like I don't get how other Psykers choose anything but that since that gives you 4 warp charges in any serious fight.
well, because BB does
you don't get another warp charge if flayer procs and the BB doesn't kill
yep
I actually don't run communion anymore
Imo cooldown reduction is much more useful than the small amount of damage warp charges give
Yeah but it didnt proc the soulblaze effect from flayer till literally the last patch 
flayer doesn't have a soulblaze effect
No the T2 skill that applies soulblaze from BBs, wouldnt proc on flayer procs before
you mean Wrack and Ruin
Its mainly your 30s feat synergy + damage increase. The reduction of ult is pretty trivial imo for most classes. Since if they want CD they have feats for that. But thats just my opinion.
are you sure?
Maybe? Idk names of everything off top of my head
it's possible that Wrack and Ruin simply wasn't working properly
Being able to push more, quell peril more, and regain toughness from the cooldown reduction is actually pretty impactful
I remember seeing it mentioned in recent patch notes
Wrack and Ruin works with flayer 100%
It's trivial for most other classes, but it's actually pretty nice for us
Yeah it does now, but wasnt workin the other week when i tested it
thx again to the awesome grinders !
congrats
Nice
now you can (if you haven't already) earn a hood that most psykers don't use
anyone know if the trauma staff is still bugged?
Let's see the cosmetics
Hey just one question warp absoprtion work with purgatus flames ?
I think its damage chart numbers are still wrong if thats what you mean. it's up for debate if they intended it to be higher or if they will just fix the numbers to the current real ones though
why did I check this stupid thing when i'm not at home
actually clowned
me installing DT on my work PC just to buy things on the shop
If you are asking is Soulblaze triggers it, it does.
unironically this
this is why i installed darktide on my laptop that can barely run the game at 25 fps on low
to check the shop
the true endgame
Ok thx @naive dawn
mfw the endgame is the 40k stockmarket
this reminded me to set this up at work, and now I can't find the reddit post
421 votes and 238 comments so far on Reddit
ahhh thanks
actual extension is here https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/armoury-exchange/hcjihmkcnjkfkaeebhnpjcnnibpoolgc
I like how they cant technically endorse nor condemn it because of how terrible the whole concept of constantly checking the shop is

The discord server also has a script for filtering stuff for the shop extension. Pretty nice
I can just glance at the shop and it'll only show me the good items
the extension was updated with that
also sorts by modifier rating instead of the default rarity sort
It doesn't have filters like filtering by blessing does it?
going from Damnation to Malice is just
what's the site again?
oh, i guess the filters are just melee/ranged/trinket
something.atoma.cloud
I have specific filters like deflector force swords, power cycler power swords, specific weapon types with certain ratings
Warhammer 40,000: Darktide - Official Website
thanks
Well, they didn't really officially endorse it, but i think Aqshy acknowledged it was a cool project on reddit, and they're actually in the discord server for it
So at the very least, they're aware of it and allow it
lol I can well imagine what would happen if they tried to block it from being a thing
least they have a modicum of sense
Well i have 4 characters to check, and usually something will show up for at least one of them
can u buy things with it
@clear heath #1050508988732686386 message
This is the kind of stuff i'm letting through the filter
I can dream
@mighty pike
u should put chainsword on there too it can roll it
how did you get that filter into the extension?
It's a seperate script. From the pins in the discord server
Me when ban for trying to make shop browsing that much easier
I don't see it in the pins
it's in #shop-web-extension , but i linked the script anyways
how bannable is this
Oh how I love getting slightly, barely grazed by a pixel of fire and instantly having my toughness ripped off like those "can you get me a towel" memes
TO ROUND UP ALL THE CRIMINALS BEFORE NUKING EM ALL
oh cool good to know then
While I'm glad they have talked about this and approved it. It blows me away that there isn't a "reroll store" function to refresh the shop and then just remove the timer system from the store all together.
first time a 380 modifier item in the store for my psyker .... it is a lasgun RIP
Its already a slot machine, why make it so I can only spin the machine once every day or hour.
There have been talks of a datamine showing that you can refresh with ordo dockets in the future
But who knows if they'll go through with that
I think it's pretty likely to happen though
can u buy stuff from the extension?
hmm probably cant reroll either then
Now that i'm checking the shop so much more often with this, i'm actually low on ordo dockets for the characters i play less
Always. You know what pisses me off? One of the t4 levels that looks like ur in the desert. Sometimes heavy gunners spawn directly above you on the floor and just shoot down through the floor into your head
I can check the shops for all 4 characters at once, but i can't play them all at once so my money is just slowly draining
didn't realize it was in another channel, thanks
refinery delta garbage
enemies shoot you through the roof and spawn in your face in thin air oh and boss trigger there too cuz fuck you very much
Hahah yeah that one
You know what pisses me off? The fact that most enemies that spawn right behind you randomly don't make sound until they hit you, they need to increase the footstep loudness of enemies within 20 meters if they aren't in your fov
They spawn above you instantly and there’s a drop down that’s usually empty that once you hit the floor will instantly spawn a ton of elites or if you’re lucky a small horde
I've never seen a t4 blessing on anything in the armory exchange
I remember in vermintide where it isn't a normal thing for enemies to just, appear behind you to land a cheeky ass hit
Their footsteps are silent but there is an audio queue before a gunner has sights on you or an enemy is about to hit you in the back so you can respond with a dodge/block.
Game cheats
That sometimes just doesn't play
After seeing the enemies appear out of thin air literally on us. Yeah. Pretty sure sometimes they just spawn in your butt and you can’t do much to avoid those random hits 🤣
I've not had audio queues not trigger, but stuff definitely just pops in/walks through walls.
It's like if they're spawning right inside of you the game forgets you can't actually see that
Or if like 3 pixels at the bottom left of the screen show
If it were possible I would absolutely go with a feat that autoblocks attacks at low peril kinda like how the current psykinetic feat does, even if it costed double the peril and removed normal blocking
Just imagine how much less bs chip damage you'd take
@clear heath I don't see that channel in the server
I don't see you in the server
is it a different discord server for the chrome extension?
First announcement in weeks is about NFTs and memes
they wouldnt ban for readily available information. if they ddidnt want darkmass' API they are building to see it, they would make that endpoint not accessible
Fatshark banning crypto sigh, no seat on the rocket for them. ngmi.
Extreme sarcasm
It's just the discord for Darkmass.gg
Good, fuck that cursed shit 
Wait wahts this about banning krypto?
FATSHARK BANNED CRYPTO?
I also wanna say it must be nice maining psyker first cause going from veteran to psyker fucking HURTS
WITH HOW THEY ARE ID BE SURPRISED IF THEY DIDNT MAKE NFTS LMAO
Fatshark is low but thank god they aren't that low
No way they would risk that absolutle shitstorm
lmao
yeah going from maining anything else and switching to vet is the greatest feeling of power
Vet privilege
They risked releasing an unfinished game with a cash shop on day 1, it was almost expected with how they kinda ignored the backlash
No joke that one move probably won them like a thousand players

tbh they did fix it
They fixed some of it
if you release a NFT
the game dies
instatly
not even EA is stupid enough for that shit
not that they wouldn't, its just they saw how fucking FAST that sigmar NFT gamba game got its coord snipped by big poppa GW and decided it's not a good idea
But EA was stupid enough for that shit weren't they?
really, after the holidays thats how they want to reinitialize communication LOL
no nfts pls
OH YEAH THEY WHERE
Yeah lmfao
hedge burned by crypto confirmed
Nah, i dont think FS wants that kinda bad PR tbh with you
this is fatcent now though, mind you
FS already has a bad enough PR
If it gets worse we're gonna start seeing similar things to blizzard
I do agree that fartshart prolly would say nah on principle but we got grubby fingers in the pot now too
No ai art is cool too. So is there any psyker discussion to be had besides the annoying surge players and "JusT play VETEran lol" people?
BREAKING: Saltzpyre name changed to John Vermintide after assault case in fatshark
I mean I can start the psyker cycle if you want
The psycle, if you will
industry is going to get 1983'd before long
I can as well.
Purge is fun, I like purge, wow I sure do enjoy purge this fine evening
Well it won't die but man are companies gonna be sent back to their place
Gunpsyker isnt complete asscheeks but also we need better force melee weapon variety so you dont get memed out of existence
leaves
you guys are funny thinking we can reset the industry again now
Gunpsyker isn't ass cheeks because staves are undertuned until you have a near god roll
oh we'll have no agency
That won't happen but we'll eventually stop buying into the shittier side
"we'll"
ban having in house or consultant psychologists and half the problem will evaporate
Unfortunately, you just mean, "me" and that doesn't account for the fact that whales will continue to exist and negate your impact forever
Simply legalize nuclear bombs 
It's always little Timmy using his rich moms credit card
bunch of class actions over that with apex and fornite right now lol
little timmy and his endless supply of disposable income
Little timmy and his high-paying wfh job
Man I wonder what the psyker communities opinion is on melee weapons.
We like em, more force weapons please
fs or antax axe mostly
Force gauntlets 
I want to punch people with magic pain glove
Force bitch slap
Why do I have to play games like Wasteland or Fallout for punch weapons?
Force gauntlets are canon ffs
exciting new weapons for the psyker, such as the force hedgetrimmer, the force toastercozy, and (oh man Im really excited for this one) the force stapler.
I would use the fuck out of all of those jokes on you
I would totally kill poxwalkers with a stapler
Payday 2's comically large spoon is still my favorite horde shooter melee
THE WHAT
That or the iconic Frying pan from l4d
That sound is amazing
doink
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force stapler sounds like something the psyker would slap into enemy heads
demopan
WOAHH
stout shako 2 refined
Force staple gun
Incomparable minds:
It gets better https://payday.fandom.com/wiki/Comically_Large_Spoon_of_Gold
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people who run max revive speed

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I immediately thought of how I do that on handmaiden, then I remembered this was the DT discord lol
I do run a bit of revive speed tho, revives are a breeze with Deflector Force Sword my beloved
"Walk it off saltzbitch"
I personally hate snipers more then I hate bad teamates
I think deflector blocks snipers too, same with slab shield
wait deflector blocks ranged when reviving?
Yes
holy cow!
that's the main use for it
If an enemy is extremely important to kill it should spawn somewhere you can kill it
you become a revive master
Deflector is also good for closing gap on shooters to force melee
it does not block snipers but i love watiching kids try when they get there first FS
Snipers shooting through several ogryns and a horde to hit you when they're behind all of them is annoying
Really not that hot take, but deflector should just be a part of the Force Sword's base kit, makes it kinda hard to use other blessings in my opinion
snipers don't do ranged damage?
LOL
Well deflector may just not block it, slab shield defiantly does tho
That explains me repeatedly trying to block the sniper shots yesterday in my group and getting wrecked
I was so confused on why deflector was not working
Here's a hot take, deflector should be removed so people learn to evade ranged fire instead of larping slab ogryn as space wizard
yes slab does defltor does not
And snipers pack a punch on 4 lol
Longlas is built different
that 100% block rate cheese is amazing though
With Warp Essence Feat, does refreshing Max Warp Charge count as gaining a charge?
yes
snipers do melee damage because technically its the bullet that deals damage and it hits you in melee range
Great, thanks!
One of the other feats expressly refers to gaining a charge at max charges
its not even a bullet
its a really really long pool noodle
Here's a hot take, staves should get a normal attack speed buff so psykers don't take like 15 seconds to take out a group of like 10 shooters
Or let me be a space wizard and do space wizard things like ignore bullets
We have literally the lowest stats, I don't see how Deflector is controversial
You can dodge them with the normal sidestep
Super funny to do as ogryn
unless you dont see or hear it
audio cues can be a pain
because the endless amount of crap in front of it
but that goes for every enemy
They need to make the laser brighter
Me when the sniper shoots out of the Bulwarks chest into my nuts
Dogs are my main gripe right now, can't seem to dodge them at all, shove can be inconsistent too
I remember it was super easy to see in the beta, but when the game went live it seemed a lot dimmer
I explained exactly why overtly mitigating the only challenge of the game might be seen as controversial. :^)
My sibling you're a psyker
3/4 staves counter them 👍
They jump right through wrath as well as flamer/purgatus 90% of the time
I have seen the dogs jump through the stagger multiple times
Like I said, inconsistent
dogs are fucked. any time i think i have them figured out they just do some nonsense spaz out and get me anyway
Every staff counters them, actually. Void is just the hardest to do it with consistently
Purgatus my beloved
Dogs are a stupid artificial difficulty right now
dogs seem like xenomorphs sometimes the way they run up the walls or just yeet themselves into the stratosphere
I do love me my purge
The servers are artificial difficulty
"Here, an instant down that's hard to hit, but takes several hits to kill and also counts as a down if it bugs out and hits you unfairly"
There is a part of me that hopes them flying into the air will never be patched out
Like the gutter runner dashing back and forth 40 times a second
At least that shit funny tho
For real though, why is the dog not a 1 shot with BB? Mutie I get but not the pupper
Dogs approach constantly but bug our even more
The strongest disabler has far to much hp
https://puu.sh/JvG4c/b53720a801.png
In Melk's shop right now. yay or nay?
sounds dumb on paper and in practice
Hot
They run under hordes, they move insanely fast, they have a lot of health, they're impossible to dodge, and ignore stagger half the time
It's a pack assassin
Coincidence? I THINK NOT!
The speed of an assassin, the bs of a packmaster
You can absolutely dodge a gutter runner tho, the little shit just styles on you with it's ultra instinct shenanigans
It's easy even
Hell I literally punch em as warrior priest
Pox hounds though? Almost hard to hit with shotguns
Other than hounds tho, I mean, I wish teammates would stop shooting bursters I'm clearly going to shove
Hounds would be fine if any kind of hit staggered or killed them
Like actually stupid af
Managed to save my team once by pushing it, then popping it from a distance
Hehe poxburster go tick tick boom
Mega pogger
Bombers also got that insane throwing arm globadiers got
Especially when you know they cant see you
Globadiers and Bombers got them valorant lineups
Bombers are honestly the worst special in the game
oob nades are rarted
Bomber, burster and hounds are the worst, every other special and elite is much more managable
bursters and hounds I can deal with
"Here, impossible radius of stagger, then you get one tick of fire and lose your toughness"
Bombers are just cringe
I would rather do 4 missions with "increased dog sightings" than 1 mission with 1 trapper
I really hate getting shot while trying to slide and just crouching, making me an easier target
But trapper is a 1 shot with bb?
I have yet to see one appear in a normal place and not inside of a wall
I can't say I've seen a wall trapper.
And also the trap pull is almost more ridiculous than the explosion throw distance
"I'm gonna get yah!!!"
My game is glitched then
loudest yandere in 40k
Meanwhile a bunch of people I know mistake the dog spawn for a horde
I have not heard literally any sound from trappers
you buggin my guy
All the audio stuff has been awful. I don't think they fixed the proximity issues
Are ragers supposed to be loud?
Because so far 1 mutant has been as loud as 10 ragers
What's with trappers and Manchester
Foxes or something idk, I'm not british
I don't think any elite makes noise
Reapers kinda
"I'm gonna manchester you" like wtf are you saying
maybe football?
Ragers yell a little
I wish gunner elites had a barrel glow when you're targetted by them like shooters do
Would make sense
They're strangely quiet besides "say the word, I'll make it rain"
Then I get stagger bombed
Bombers arent elites I believe
They also talk about crowd control
If there's an active mutant, I can barely hear anything over them
"WANT EM CRISPY?"
Yeah bombers are specialists
FIRE DEATH RENEWAL! FIRE DEATH RENEWAL
Hi what curios am i looking for
Elites just nothing personnel, kid me all day
2 +health, 1 +wound(s)
I like 1 wound, stamina, and health for damnation. I've got Deflector tho
What's the difference between tox flamers and flamers
one is green
Figures
green
ty
One is pretty green flames and slightly different armor
Literally same health and armor type
tox flamers leave flames on the goround for longer
One is also woman ☕
Do they really? Tox has no head armor
I'm amazed shotgunners don't make much sound
I hear them racking the shell fairly loud
ikr shotgunners may be one of the most deadly enemies
You will get 5 different answers from 5 different people. The only consistent detail I have seen is at most 1 +wound curio, and perks is a whole other discussion. Short version is I wouldn't worry to much about it right now.
they should make the racking of their guns loud as hell
Thank the emperor auto shotties don't exist in the 41st millenium
They devour your toughness but also crunch your health
the stun from them shooting you is pain
The stun from any ranged unit, elite or not is pain
So many BBs dropped from being in the same zip code as a bomber
wait a sec
Remove ranged stun on toughness damage 
why isnt bomber in the meat grinder
why isnt burster in meat grinder
thats what i menat
as to why? idk
Why not buster
its very nice to know what staggers em and how quickly i can kill em
Id guess self damage
probably didnt want to make all the specialist go flying during testing
I have never seen a burster ever even slightly move an enemy
Simply push them 
yawn
"Fuck outta here with that BULLSHIT"
it instead doesnt even kill one in heresy :>
just shove
takes 3 lol
shove or hope somebody with a las or bolter sees them
Kantreal Mk12 is where it's at or mk3 hellbore
Mk3 helbore is mega cool
I want force glove
I want to rip them apart with my bear hands, that I killed with my bare hands
English can be fun
hehehehe
honestly hope we get more 2 boss events
Oh hell yah Damnation 2 let's go
its vorin time
like when a boss gets to 50% hp there is a chance another spawns
I wonder where the Chaos Spawn is? I want revenge for the trailer guardsmen
you need a DH on top of that
ikr chaos spawn is something i want more than new maps and weapons
cuz it adds variety to every map
no boss walls so just keep going
I'm really sick of beast of nurgle. It's so hard to fight in melee
i agree, grab needs to be more telegraphed
and the stupid corruption glue
i learned if ur not covered in vomit, it cant eat u
They both spawned in basically the same area too, with not that much of a time gap
still annoying boss
game actually just hates us
It simply can't handle our incomparable minds
Imagine almost winning against 2 beast of nurgles and then the game crashes for everyone
Dont get vomited on, no grab.
You ascended
I'm really annoyed more by the slime everywhere and the tail attacks then the grab
Winning against 2 plague ogryns tho
damned thing is easy to kite
I feel like there should be more horror in game over the fact an actual honest to hell daemon is on tertium
bro i want stormvermin tho
what is a monstrosity like stormvermin they could add?
big monster with ranged threat
Soulgrinder?
i loved the baby rats laugh
Space
Well instead of hunting ground make it Double hunting grounds.
lol we can NOT deal with a soulgrinder
Marine?
In case you didnt have enough space dogs.
aint happening
Stormfiend arent exactly a low tier threat either
Plague marine (you can't beat it)
hrmm
Yes but the U5 are fuckin strong
i do want a random boss that is just 2 really strong cultists. having a boss that can be in 2 places at once but each are individually weaker would be dope
rogue psyker could be lit
god dammit you're right
ogryn no fit in astartes armor

Ork warboss ogryn
Metal flexes.. eventually.
There are no sorcerer enemies at all, which is weird as I'm sure there's got to be a corrupted psyker or 2 in the Moebian 6th or whoever is crafting the Daemonhosts
Not that kind
obviously a cool future monstrosity with ranged capabilities would be a rogue tech priest when the dark mehanicus invasion dlc comes
(not cope)
I mean best we can do is boss shown in videos before launch
and behaviour is like rat ogre
enjoy.
ikr, servitors, archo flaggelant like horrors, dark ruststalkers, etc
Yes all the combat servitors
also i do want an enemy that functions much like beastman standard bearers
Pls no health regen shooters
i was thinking a floating sorcerer/psyker/cultist that has a shield that has set health but takes less ranged damage (like assassination bosses)
easy to crush in melee quickly tho
Void shield has like what 90% reduced range damage or something?
Randos can hardly follow logic of assassination boss, not sure if I want to deal with that as abomination.
If they do they decide blocking and dodging is for nerds
Then I decide ressing them is same.
They also never let me use my force sword special to do damage past the health gate
"Imagine NOT facetanking"
The goddamn music though
I just met Vet that was clearly played by Zealot main. Heresy. Runs ahead right at start , turns into Hound's Chow, leaves game. Classic 🙂
elf
You mean "Bipedis popedis"?
Handmaiden players be like
Classic elf wench behavior
Disposal Unit track spews promethium that's for sure 🙂
Disposal Unit (Imperium Mix) my beloved
Yeah thats the Bipedis popedis
i cant wait to kill one of these as the skitarii class 🥰
I don't think we could beat a techpriest
One of feamle Zealot's voice-over reminded me of Kerillian.. it's like she will be calling us Lumberfoots any moment! Though it's Loose Cannon vet - who does that
The atheism leaving my body as I listen to the Darktide OST
Techpriests are dangerous, especially one that might have spider legs powered by a daemon engine
One of voices is same as kerillian.
I only do hard IT task when listening to Mechanicus OST.
Or voice actor I should say as that makes more sense.
Noosphere when the pipe organ drop
i think so, if we can beat a low tier demonhost we can beat a low tier tech priest
I checked Alix Wilton not listed for Darktide (Kerillian voice actress)-
moving folders and filing excel?
I don't know the power scaling of a thrice bound daemon honestly
That's not IT tasks - it's for administrtum drones
Or you mean searching stackoverflow and mining in runescape?
That's not as well
Titan vs Slab Shield
It's for programmers - craziest of our kind
I too deeply want an admech class
Thats the previously mentioned.
I don't think we'll see skitarii as much as I want one, as the Inquisition and the Admech famously get along as well as an oil spill and the Gulf of Mexico
Yeah.. and best we can get - is to play Combat Servitor class
Mobile medicae station til ogryn flings you off cliff.
I feel like a Lobotimite might have no personality, which is a harder issue to solve then all Ogryn's being Boneheads retroactively
I mean - model for servitor are in game already - check Hangar scene with Masozi
Half of stuff they could add is in the game already.
Yes combat servitors are a thing, it just might be as interesting as a bedpan
Nope. Only Brawler have that Implant. Bully - "Smart as is. Don't need one"
Bully has pretty weak amount of dialogue but when he talks, he is sure to belittle everyone you pick up.
Maybe bully...
"There's something scary in the dark, ME."
Isn't an ogryn
Damn voidstrike quell cancel so fun
So smarter than average Zealot - they can only count to 3.
I love the snark between zealots and psykers. I once rezzed one as a Loner and he said, "I touched you. You're damned now." Hilarious
"My sins are contagious don't you know"
mine once said "remember i COULD have just left you, zealot" and the zealot awkwardly thanked me
"It's called SKILL, Zealot"
Bully when helping hanging Zealot "Let it go, shouty!"
"I sense foreshortened lifespans, no NOT FOUR shortened lifespans! Why are you not paying attention look at me not them!"
Arguing with subtitles is the best in joke
I read it in that accent
Snarky German is such a fun accent
Fr
"I HAVE FEELINGS TOO YOU KNOW!"
When i was doing Going out with Bang Penance - we had a player in team that played Psyker and spoke in that accent 🙂
the player did? nice
Best accent i can do - Bodyguard Ogryn... well it's almost like my native accent anyway
We have a tech priest, a skitarii class isn't unthinkable lol
Aren't Skitarii unthinking though?
Those are servitors, skitarii have some freedom
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There cannot be Skitarri reject. Faulty one gets repurposed 🙂
Hadrons personal guards playable when?
Gunners can be tapped to the head once, they die when you blow up on malice
Grabbing a premade helps a lot, letting somebody get aggro on 3 ragers and then try to blow up on them
If your level 30 your not a reject anymore 🙂
No longer rejected, just dejected
You're an official member of the warband, but again, Inquisition and Admech don't tend to get along
When skitari fails miserably - one more servitor enters the service 🙂
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I got it done with the peeps in this discord, should be plenty of people willing to help
There is LFG channels here in this server. Use them! That is how i did it
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Keep poking 🙂
"Bugs beneath my Hεεl!"
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Yes-yes
extremely good base stats, weird perk, weak version of a strong blessing XP
Looks good, Transfer Peril is like the best blessing for non purge staffs
you dont need warp resist on a voidstaff since it generates so little, if you get warp nexus youre basically set
Ratling snipers. Make it so
Hate-kill manthings, yes-yes?
second perk
A fine looking what now
no resource for yellow for now...
Felinid

soon tm
👄 
Oh! I found a bipedal servitor on Morningstar
hey guys i have a question... is there a way to get rid of old weapons?
Look as this Darth Malik lookin ass
Yes. In inventory select weapon and hold X - you sell it for dockets
Wait no Malgus
thank you very much^^
damit... now i want to play Swtor again
imagine if they put these things in the game
it jump slams into the team leaving flames on the ground and starts mulching ya
something like this for the dark mechanicus could be lit
wait wrong chat lol
Don't worry we want Dark Mechanicus too
I've gone too long without a new Systemshock game
🙂
Close-up on "hidden" servitor's face
where is this servitor?
It looks like Standart Serviotr Port... 🙂
Idk if this is a popular opinion or not but i find psyker to be both the hardest and weakest class
It's a bit difficult, but I wouldn't call it worst. I'd rather say the others are just far easier
its a diffrent play style for sure
High level zealot can be a chore if you just midlessly run into shooters and die
but you also get a perk to ignore ranged slowdown so
the buggest and the nerfest class.
Glass but with Cannon removed
We have Infinite Ammo though and virtually unbreakable block easily achived
thats the main opinion, its by far the weakest class... as for hardest? that can be assumed due to their peril management mechanic and lowest base hp stats
well other class don't explode if they don't reload.
Yah but we also dont use ammo
ah yes, no ammo but a lot of our kit/weapons dont hit meaningful breakpoints
efficiency
Quelling Peril is also very forgiving, I was struggling to blow myself up for Out with a Bang
Psyker Psykinetic is still a fine class and even with weapons not max rolled, BIS perks and blessings you can complete damnation fine
If I can "1 shot" a mauler with a charged purge flame it's breakpoints are ok in my book
Void best staff?
Surge
opinion
I liked void a lot when originally levelling but it feels really bad in heresy+
Surge is for people who hate themselves but love being a cc bot, purge is my favorite, Void is fine, I don't really like Trauma
Trauma's aiming feels off to me
void is a little blessing/stat dependant where as a 340 purg will still farm
I love my 375 base stats purge myself, gotta make it gold at some point
traumas blast radius really Fs with crosshair placement for sure
seeing as you want to hit as many things with the epicentre as possible
huh wow finally a possibly good force sword
nice
Imagine having that and making it collect dust in inventory because Surge feels superior in every way except vs horde.
That’s still your opinion.
Only reason i'm not on Purgatus bandwagon - it block the karking linesight so badly that it annoys me too much
So was this proven to just be wrong?
wdym wrong?
I like how you call it a bandwagon when I know everybody in this server got a different favorite
void and SS for different reasons
Near there they talk about the data mining saying otherwise.
Is the item ratings you find not based off your character level?
Because i hopped on to it as soon as i got that fine speciment. And it felt good, but... as i sad - lacking in some departments and line of sight blocking issue. While being only thing that actually synergises with Psyker feats.
I think one of the main reasons Psyker can feel less impactful than other classes is because they feel squishier than other classes, outside of improved blocking. They have this drawback while at the same time they don’t provide anything another class can’t already provide. Outside of maybe surge Cc spam. And maybe improved ammo distribution due to staves using peril.
Psykers have the lowest toughness and health. The lowest base stamina (although fastest stamina regen delay is nice). And their toughness damage modifiers aren’t anything special. Additionally they don’t really have any toughness damage reduction feats or passives.
Not to hate on Psykers though. I think the game is payable on any of the classes. Just requires grinding or some better gear. I’ve had fun playing Psyker. Even with a gun.
The part about traits/perks is probably just poor wording.
Probably just means the total rating is based off perks, which they are. Like how a perk is roughly worth 20 points of rating on the item
I just love catching Busters , Mutants and Hounds with Surge.. i can't help myself. Saving a lot of teams health from sneaky Buster that was already midair to explode - priceless!
yes its based on lv and also the average of the base stat of your weapons in your inventory
i would change +5% críticas strike
Crit % is BIS on Purg staff.
And you will be wrong. Crit does 2 stack of Soulblaze.
God I can’t wait for that unused force sword blessing to be added
what blessing
Which one?
I've seen a screenshot of it
Imaging Bloodthirsty (100% crit on special kill) on Force Sword!
Need that
The code or of it on a FS?
ive seen someone post an fs with it
dunno if it's real or not, but someone claimed to have this
Huh
Custom icon and everything
Need that
Current Blessings list for FS does not have Bloodthirsty though...
Has anyone else ever seen it?
Where do you see the blessings list?
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/weapons
It may be incomplete though.
Don't trust random websites on internet ™
But will VERY karking limited crafting mats i'm not risking them to get that Blessing
If you want, bug this guy about whether it's real or not
Honestly i don't know what to believe. It's either fake or it's so rare that literally 1 person in the entire discord has had it
plenty of people have seen it, I've one and posted a video at one point
I believe the blessings were revealed in the data mining. They're also hardcoded per weapon 😂
some blessings seem to not come in lower tiers making them harder to get
what is BIS
What do u mean not come in lower tiers? Do tiers affect blessings on weapon drops?
best in slot
should i reroll the 25% flak armor into 5% crit? damn the dot doesnt scale with the dmg?
wtf real???
I got mine from Melk, but could technically even find one in the shop
shit now i aint settling for anything but deflector bloodthirsty
might take a year
I crafted it from a blue FS lol
it's probably not better than e.g. slaughterer
So is it actually 5 seconds of crits after a special kill?
crafting better come out soon
yes
zamn
Can you swap to your staff and guaranteed crit on that?
no
Literally got tired of not having deflector so I bought that from the shop and crafted orange to get tier 4 bloodthirsty
damn
Was just lucky
So you can take Bloodthirsty from Chainsword and put it on FS if it's compatible
Yep
is that how it will work?
so if i have a trauma staff with quell peril ill be able to put that on void staff?
I just special kill anything infront of me and within 5 seconds it is a guaranteed crit
god dayum
man i was hoping to be able to keep the crit buff after switching to ranged
Naw I tested that doesn't work
Only applies to melee
I want slaughterer+bloodthirsty
bloodthirsty + blazing spirit sounds fun if you're willing to give up deflector
You can do that with shred apparently
A lot of blessings work globally. That's why i assumed bloodthirsty would work
You can even buff your brainburst with slaughterer
have we tested it out with shred or nexus crit on peril amount?
Shred was confirmed by someone I trust in Zealot chat, no idea about Nexus crit
like shred stacking with lightning staff multiple hits?
You just have to change quickly after stacking shred
No you stack shred by mashing with melee then quickly change to staff and it will keep the crit chance till you change back
oh i was thinking of casting then animation cancel to my melee with shred
I guess t4 blazing spirit can be decent with it since it applies 4 stacks at once, in particular if it applies to everything you cleave
Shred + blazing spirit isn't very good
I tested it in the meat grinder
you don't crit nearly enough
Yeah i assumed it would be pretty bad
Does blazing spirit only apply to the first target?
People like to hype up the idea of stacking up crit with shred, but like you're likely swinging probably 8 times before you get a crit so...
TBF there aren't many better blessings for duelling sword at least that I've seen pop up
well, i just mean for crit stacking with blazing spirit
yep, it's nowhere near as good as it sounds
you don't proc blazing spirit enough
Shame there aren't any general class blessings and they're all weapon specific. A blazing spirit shred devils claw sounds like it'd be fun
Ah I see
Wait how did you make that apply to staff?
Switched to sword during the surge animation
Ah
you know how it does a surge tick while the sword is out?
shred + rending on weakspot hit?
Yeah the rending one seems alright
wait i thought you were rerolling 20% block rate to 1 stam?
It's an old video
Also, i was
but then i decided i'll just use a curio and hope they fix the stam curios one day
and so i rerolled it to 25% flak instead
and man i love the extra flak damage
thats solid hoard damage
You have no idea how much joy it brings me to finally be able to kill this in 2 swings (it dies when i take psykinetic's wrath feat)
does the infested dmg meet a break point on poxwalkers in damnation or does it still take 3 hits?
flak damage is the hot saus of wepons in dark tide u put that shit on everything and tis good

