psyker-class

[steel egret]

helmet is already in game, in red.

[solar fossil]

its so sick

[solar fossil]

looks kinda different to me

this one looks chunkier

[steel egret]

its the same, also has clipping issues, but same.

[random wolf]

Log in to Darktide to check Melk's store after finsihing all the newbie assignments on DRG
None of the Transendant weapons are over 330 power
On 3 characters.

[steel egret]

Rifle store.

[jovial quail]

They at least fixed the clipping on the imperial edition neck guard for psyker

[naive sun]

It's relieving to know that Zealots still charge as blindly and stupidly into Shooter and Gunner lines on Damnation as much as they did in Uprising and Malice.

(Just happened, and they raged about it being too difficult)

[jovial quail]

Playing uprising/malice makes you a really bad player overall when going up lol. I've done like 250 missions in the last 3 weeks exclusively on them and mained only heresy endless/damnation prior

went into a heresy game today and got my teeth kicked in for a few minutes till i changed my behavior

[fresh reef]

how would you guys feel about seeing this in the next patch?

[ebon jolt]

I remember when I played malice and used to use BB. Those were the days…

[steel egret]

I would presume its aprils fool.

[wet raven]

Mmmmm I love these

[random wolf]

I mean. I still BB Bulwarks to throw their shield off

Then blast them in the face lmao

[fast swan]

i dont think they will ever give out free aquillas, and i think the earnale free outfits are honestly good enough

[wet raven]

It's speculated they had intents on giving that as a reward for grims

Then they had to delete their post

[idle bay]

And the guy that proposed it was sent away into Siberia

[raw breach]

Honestly, after the story I heard yesterday about how they had a fully functional crafting system until just before launch when internal testing all said it was boring as fuck, so they scrapped it and started over last minute. If they had to remove or overhaul all of the existing features and blessings to give a smaller pool of more impactful blessing choices on each weapon that were more closely balanced with the other options I think it would be great.

[vagrant cedar]

sounds legit

[warped perch]

Is this a good knife?

[vagrant cedar]

yes

[crimson ravine]

Now listen here team how does one simply play psyker

[idle bay]

Is this a good knife? Though i'm scared consecrating it and getting garbage perks and blessings...

[vagrant cedar]

yes

[idle bay]

Like it happened with my 380 Axe....

Also scared to upgrade this one

[boreal sun]

Look at those two curios..

[idle bay]

Weep with me siblings.... 😦 Those Blessings combination

[boreal sun]

Very auspicious

[mighty pike]

https://tenor.com/view/jenna-ortega-wednesday-addams-addams-family-smile-smirk-gif-26500109

[random wolf]

Time to shred

[vagrant cedar]

kinda sums up the state of the game

[idle bay]

Purging heretics is fun though.

[vagrant cedar]

say that in a week when it's the same heretics you're purging over and over

[idle bay]

I'm that close to final Heretic Penances....

Some more purging to do

Also 108687/500000 heretics to Purge for "Purge the Heretic" (4)

And there should be "Purge the Heretic" (5) with at least 7 digits

[night marten]

Guessing its a million

[raw breach]

Wait, do you mean Purgator? Purge the Heretics is the Dreg meta Penance?

[idle bay]

It's Penance from another section

[raw breach]

Ohh, the other one in Offensive. That makes much more sense lol

[ornate hamlet]

Violent org*sm Rapid pox spread

[idle bay]

Put that back in ! 🙂

it's Nurgle-themed , not Slaanesh-themed

And now when bottle of champagne is finished ... it's time for few more missions 🙂

[robust meteor]

i thought they patched this bug? (item rating)

oof

[vagrant cedar]

nice staff

[lethal lagoon]

3 psykers in a t5 hi-int makes me mistakenly think the class is OP lmao. Such an easy run when you all have a different staff. Had to double check I didn't accidentally queue a 4.

[robust meteor]

it has crit tho rip

[lethal lagoon]

there honestly isn't that great of an option other than warp flurry for purg.

So crit is fine, extra dps.

4% war flurry is the real rip

[robust meteor]

i like it enough to upgrade. its nice to have when the horde is closer than it should be

never used purge much tbh

what are the better perks? i have 20+ infested and maniacs atm

[lethal lagoon]

I love trauma atm, nothing clears horde like it.

[vagrant cedar]

roll +5% crit as it's the best most universal one agaisnt all enemies

unless you dislike 1 type more

[robust meteor]

crit on purge?

[vagrant cedar]

which would make you easier to handle it

yeah

[robust meteor]

i thought it was mostly burn damage

soulblaze damage i mena

[vagrant cedar]

when you crit you gain double stack

so you get like 10% to get 2 stacks rather than 1

[robust meteor]

did not know that

[vagrant cedar]

depends on your playstyle rly

some could say 2 best are unarmored and infested

as it would clear all the trash mobs rly quick

and be left with elites

etc etc

[lethal lagoon]

I like flak and unarmored, flak covers a lot of enemies I hate.

infested never bug me.

[ornate hamlet]

Any perks y'all would recommend replacing here or keep it as it is?

[subtle linden]

the uninterruptable charge time is nice

[vagrant cedar]

elites -> infested

[subtle linden]

:c

[lethal lagoon]

For surge?

That's a bit silly to do infested

[subtle linden]

oh

[vagrant cedar]

oh

it's a surge

[subtle linden]

looked like a purge

hmm

[ornate hamlet]

So far I know, the more armor they have the more dmg they do

Thats why I got unarmored

And ranged elite seems okay but is there anything better?

[lethal lagoon]

25% of nothing is still nothing though

[robust meteor]

i do like unarmored on surge

[vagrant cedar]

ranged elites are 3 enemies tho

[ornate hamlet]

True

[robust meteor]

mainly for the unarmored gunner packs up on ledges etc

[lethal lagoon]

Nvm, I hate surge attk breakdowns, ignore me.

damage to flak is probably better than damage to unarmored.

for Surge

[robust meteor]

thats what i use kinetic barrage feat for

when armor shows up

when i use surge

[lethal lagoon]

I hate when a great weapon is ruined by it's starting perks. I had sprint and stamina, ugh.

Good thingI find surge mind numbingly boring and almost never use it.

[vagrant cedar]

don't worry

once the red items come out

all this shit will be irrelevant as you'll need to do it again

[lethal lagoon]

D:

[robust meteor]

hopefull another difficulty will release too

[subtle linden]

found this in the mourningstar

[warped perch]

I find surge to be boring and purg to be annoying af

[lethal lagoon]

Trauma is hnng.

[warped perch]

I’ve seen that before, idk how you do that lol

Trauma

I’m a voidstrike simp

[robust meteor]

i love surge

[warped perch]

Damn nice

[lethal lagoon]

Surge is fun until you need to clutch and realize that there is literally nothing you can do agaisnt a horde.

Wait scratch that. It's boring before then. Just useful at least.

[warped perch]

Voidstrike is so much fun to play

I feel powerful

[robust meteor]

have to run deflection force swordwith it and sprint for revives

[lethal lagoon]

Revive your friend in a horde -> friend instantly dies.

[proven cipher]

Everytime I consecrated my staffs, I get Run n Gun

[warped perch]

Me too

[proven cipher]

Literally everytime

[lethal lagoon]

^ fuck the emperor

[warped perch]

I have run n gun on my voidstrike and my purge

😒

[proven cipher]

Always the 2nd blessing too

[warped perch]

Yep

[proven cipher]

Like god damn it

[proven cipher]

Gotta be a glitch bug

[lethal lagoon]

I'm scared to make my current fav Trauma and Void legendary because I'm positive I'll get run and n gun.

Might as well just get BIS curios

[warped perch]

It already happened to me, just take the inevitable step

Sigh

[proven cipher]

The chances of always getting Run n Gun when you're consecrating

I'm 4/4 times now that I got after consecrating my staves to Orange

[warped perch]

Which staff do you use the most

[proven cipher]

Purge, but I have been consecrating any good roll staff

[lethal lagoon]

After discovering Trauma wasn't actually shit, I use it 90% of the time.

Something satfisying about cutting 8 enemies in half in one charge.

And seeing their chunks go everywhere

[proven cipher]

Just wish all the staff is as peril efficient as purge tho

Trauma and voidstrike my max peril too quickly

[lethal lagoon]

I mean you get toughness for quell, so I just view it as survivability

It doesn't really work that well, but it makes me feel better

[elfin zenith]

I have the opposite problem, surge tops me off but with vs I rarely see max

[warped perch]

I just can’t get into purg I hate not having a long range option

[lethal lagoon]

Voidstrike is borderline infinite peril, it's useless without the quell perk

blessing*

[warped perch]

I spam heavy attacks with void and the peril stacks slowly, I don’t have the quell perk

[lethal lagoon]

The quell blessing works on heavy attacks

It's OP

[warped perch]

I rarely have probs with managing peril

[lethal lagoon]

It's not about amnaging, it's about literally having infinite peril.

[warped perch]

I wanted the quell perk but got run n gun instead 😒

[robust meteor]

crow what difficulty are you using trauma on, and do you pug when you use it?

[lethal lagoon]

lmao run n gun at it again

[proven cipher]

And Trauma you need Rend Shockwave right?

[lethal lagoon]

I just did a t5 hi int with it.

was super easy

[warped perch]

I can’t bring myself to pug t5

[lethal lagoon]

I was pugging btw

[warped perch]

It’s already painful enough on 4

[robust meteor]

thats all i do honestly

i have no life

[lethal lagoon]

Trauma blessings really don't matter that much

rending is nice for your team though

[robust meteor]

and trauma sucks on damnation

D tier

[lethal lagoon]

No one can clear hordes faster than my tramua, that's cap.

[proven cipher]

Purge for horde and FS with Bloodthirsty single

[lethal lagoon]

Plus it stuns all the elites

and shreds ranged groups

[robust meteor]

im aware of how it works lol

[warped perch]

I’ve been loving combat knife over FS

I can run circles around melee

[proven cipher]

Ye literally only do like 3 charge attacks using Trauma

Pretty much BB but the dmg is spread out into AOE that deals next to nothing

[warped perch]

Trauma was fun when I was leveling

[lethal lagoon]

I mean I'll literally kill a group of 2-4 ranged units in one 1.3 sec charge. It's kind of ridiculous. I only run t5 btw.

Plus you can insta cast it for a quick stun and then finish them off easy

with 1 or 2 more insta casts

[proven cipher]

Wish they make the dmg equal in the circle

But seem like main dmg is right in the center

For 1 target basically

[lethal lagoon]

I feel like people who hate trauma just can't aim the circle haha, yeah it's about 1/4 of the circle.

It's not, you can easily get that epicenter on many targets

[proven cipher]

That's just stupid tbh

In a horde game

Might as well make the dmg good enough to kill horde ads

[lethal lagoon]

I mean literally no other staff, or really char, can compare to my horde clear with trauma, I don't know if it's just an aiming issue or you have a shit trauma staff.

[proven cipher]

Or better yet have a lingering circle effect afterward

[pine iris]

I played for the first time in a couple weeks, I have 120+ hours. Are ragers much faster now? and gunners spawn in by the dozens?

[abstract cedar]

I do think trauma is better than people say it is

[warped perch]

You might be in high intensity

[proven cipher]

Seem Heresy is a little more difficult than at launch

[lethal lagoon]

hi int with the three skulls underneath

is very fun

too many ogs though

[pine iris]

the ragers seem a little more dangerous (good change)

[warped perch]

Yeah it’s fun if you like sweating

[proven cipher]

Cost to dmg ratio and skill to use is too high for what it does

[lethal lagoon]

Just run 3 psykers with 3 diff staves. Everything will die stunlocked and crying.

[warped perch]

I was in a game like that today

Was fun

[lethal lagoon]

Same.

[warped perch]

Hordes died fast

[proven cipher]

Purge and surge combo is always fun

Covering for each other weakness

[lethal lagoon]

I did a t5 hi int with that and it literally felt like a normal t4.

Purg also softens the horde for trauma, so the whole circle kills lmao

[proven cipher]

I want to get an FS with Bloodthirsty and Blazing Spirit

[lethal lagoon]

GL lmao

[proven cipher]

I really hope the tick dmg from FS special also applies crit therefore proc the Blazing spirit

So 1 FS special will give you max stack blaze

[lethal lagoon]

I guess once they add reroll for blessings, it'll relatively easy to get.

[proven cipher]

Got an FS with max bloodthirsty and slaughterer

[warped perch]

I’m hoping that’s the case

[lethal lagoon]

I've still never seen a force swrd with either of those though

[inland sand]

had a 4 psyker damnation game the other day

[proven cipher]

Basically 1 shot maulers/ragers

[inland sand]

was great fun

[proven cipher]

And 2 shot crushers

[warped perch]

Oh that’s mine I left it on the bus would you mind returning it to me? 😊

[proven cipher]

Here ya go

[near wyvern]

Happy New year siblings 🎊

[proven cipher]

God damn that terms annoys the shit out of me

[lethal lagoon]

Easy cousin.

[proven cipher]

Soooo PC for grimdark

[zinc phoenix]

Ok step sibling

[lethal lagoon]

lmao

[proven cipher]

Rocky

ROFL

I mean to be fair I use it a lot, but I would expect ppl in warhammer 40k to be like Brother this, Sister that

[zinc phoenix]

Body Type A and Body Type B step sibling

[proven cipher]

Anal and Butt?

[warped perch]

[warped perch]

Happy new year

[robust meteor]

its fine except the peril generation is way too much for it to match what usefulness of the others

[proven cipher]

Ye

Basically same as BB at max charge

[lethal lagoon]

Not that diff from other staves. at 100%. Drop to 80 if you want to do a full charge.

[proven cipher]

Dmg in center is like 300-400

Outer circle is like 30-40

Ridiculous drop on dmg

[ebon jolt]

Gun Psyker friends. Do you use Esscense Harvest and Communion or Quietude and Aura?

[lethal lagoon]

the center is forgiving enough to get plenty of enemies though.

[proven cipher]

The entire circle is kinda small to begin with

Might as well give max dmg for the entire thing

[lethal lagoon]

Essense Harvest is pretty unreliable.

Aura is also OP as hell with the BB feat

I had literally all the same arguments you guys had until I gave a well rolled trauma staff a geniune try.

[proven cipher]

The battle mediation that give you 10% chance to quel 10% is the best too me

[lethal lagoon]

It definitely takes more work than the other staves though to make it worth it.

[proven cipher]

Wish there's a way to increase that

[lethal lagoon]

Yeah

For purg it can be infinite casting a lot of the times

but it can also just refuse to proc

[proven cipher]

That's why the purge staff shine

So easy to proc it against horde the more the more likely you never need to manually quel

[lethal lagoon]

purg is just a step above the brainless surge though. It get's really boring really fast. T5 is already easy enough without having to use a mind numbing staff. I guess that's just personal preference at that point.

[proven cipher]

Purge kinda more brainless than surge I think

[lethal lagoon]

Ranged units require some amount of brain to deal with purg, which makes it slightly harder to use than surge

[proven cipher]

Surge dmg seem consistent at time primary target and all other target get minor dmg

[lethal lagoon]

esp if you can't find a good purg with 80% cloud radius

[proven cipher]

Ye I just bb those or hide and let the players with guns to deal with those far away

Ye this is my best purge so far

That run n gun is just the bane of my existence

[lethal lagoon]

terrifying barrage isn't that much better though haha

[proven cipher]

I kinda fine it useful

[lethal lagoon]

I'm scared to upgrade it and waste the annoyingly hard to get plasteel.

Warp flurry and crit on peril would be ideal.

[proven cipher]

Seem to works on almost everything except Monstrosity and freaking Shotgunners, those fuckers are impossible to stagger with purge

Warp Nexus and Warp Flurry seem to be a good combo right?

[lethal lagoon]

yeah, probably ideal for purg and surge.

warp nexus would be great on trauma but I've never seen it.

[proven cipher]

Or the -30%-50% at max stack seem negligible?

Never had it to notice the difference in charge time

[long wharf]

You want warp nexus and transfer peril on purge

[proven cipher]

Basically turn your 1.5-1.8 sec charge rate to like 1 sec?

[vagrant cedar]

isn't transfer peril based on weak spot?

[lethal lagoon]

that literally doesn't work on purg brother

[long wharf]

Whoops, yes

Eyes read purge, head read void

[vagrant cedar]

you want the terrifying barrage

[lethal lagoon]

Nah, warp flurry and warp nexus

[long wharf]

Warp flurry doesn't work

[lethal lagoon]

terrifying barrage unnessary when you already stun everything.

I've timed warp flurry before, so no?

[vagrant cedar]

your rear

and sides

[lethal lagoon]

That seems pretty unreliable lmo

[proven cipher]

Only 5 possible blessings for the purge

[vagrant cedar]

yeah i tested flurry too

doesn't seem to do it's job

[proven cipher]

most useless seem to be run and gun

Yeah a difference in line 0.5 sec

Is hardly noticeable

Staves already have a low charge time.

[vagrant cedar]

and sometimes you can't even land a full charge

etc

due to situation

[proven cipher]

So either Focus Channeling and Terrifying Barrage as secondary to Warp Nexus

[lethal lagoon]

I got 1.6-1.8 to 1.3-1.5 with warp flurry

honestly not that great, given it was the 8% stack

[vagrant cedar]

how does warp nexus actually work tho?

[lethal lagoon]

but still signifcant over the course of a whole game

no one knows

[vagrant cedar]

LOL

[lethal lagoon]

but it's not like we aren't keep our peril high anyways

[proven cipher]

Yeah it seem to proc crit

But I'm not sure if the burn crit also, likely not

[vagrant cedar]

can't wait to have a PROPER UI THAT SHOWS SHIT

[lethal lagoon]

crit applies an extra burn stack

[proven cipher]

Just the impact dmg

Ooo

[lethal lagoon]

yeah

[proven cipher]

How did you fine that out

[vagrant cedar]

meatgridner

count how many critted

count how many stacks it equals vs non crits

1crit = 2 stacks

[golden jackal]

happy new year my psyker mains

and other fellow degenarates 😛

[proven cipher]

Still haven't gotten my psyker last 2 heresy penance

That goggle headgear is so sweet

[elfin zenith]

was just in a IV game where someone pulled the host and I was second target, I was able to hold aggro and not die for quite a while with dueling w/ 15% efficient blocking + peril block but got splatted when I tried for a block attack cause the team was doing almost no dmg, can I help kill the DH in a situation like that using alt fire maybe or should I focus on dodging to keep peril down and wait for them to deal with it?

[covert valve]

we would see the difference but its prob broken

[austere estuary]

re. warp flurry - the voidstrike can get to max stacks via firing multiple uncharged secondaries. Have one with 8% per stack, and sure enough after a few uncharged secondary bolts can then see it jump from start to 40% full

for other staves its a lot less useful, but still not terrible if you have 8-10% versions and use either a voidstrike or a purgatus for example as you'll frequently be firing secondaries back to back, and 8-10% is worth a huge amount of charge speed bar

also you technically get 'free' peril efficiency from it as the skipped charge portion doesn't - as far as I can see - jack your peril up to match where it would have reached had you spent that bit of time charging

[covert valve]

have you timed the 40% charge rate vs normal and see it make the difference?

[proven cipher]

I figure the cost to charge it would be the same

Even if it charges faster

[austere estuary]

time spent charging as far as I can see simply adds peril at a constant rate until you fire - not even affected by warp resistance (which is part of why that stat is so awful most of the time)

[idle bay]

Siblings. should i ?

[austere estuary]

and the way you charge with warp flurry stacks is you see the white bar leap up

[austere estuary]

It's pretty nice, shame about the range but certainly solid damage output and v usable imo

[covert valve]

so if i hold right click and fire of left clicks it counts as multiple charges right?

[austere estuary]

yes, if you want to see what I mean, get a voidstrike, hold right click, and just shoot off like 4-5 uncharged secondaries that way

e.g. hold right, spam left

then hold left

you'll see the bar jump right up

as far as I can tell, the buff works a bit like warp charge stacks - if you get another stack, it'll refresh the window, if it drops, you go back to 0 stacks

[covert valve]

can u clip a video of this please

[austere estuary]

and the buff duration is very short, so most weapons will only get 1 stack worth of use a lot of the time (which is still actually not bad)

alright gimme a min

[long wharf]

Except spamming min-charged voids is pointless

[austere estuary]

it has its moments

not something you'd do a lot of the time

[covert valve]

well then a surge would be better

[proven cipher]

How long does the flurry last anyway

[austere estuary]

very short, begins on firing off secondary

[proven cipher]

Long enough for your to quell back to 0 to without losing that stacks

All of these stupid blessings need a ui to let us know if they're proc

[austere estuary]

Flurry is so short that even charging more than a little bit on voidstrike will drop you back, but I'll double check

Not done a lot of testing with other staves with it

[proven cipher]

Starting to seem to be too much trouble for it's worth

[austere estuary]

I'd take 10% less charge time on normal nukes happily

which is what it mostly equates to at lvl 4

[covert valve]

wait mine doesnt do this.. e.g. hold right, spam left
then hold left and hold right???

[lethal lagoon]

I mean that's just an efficent way to start, you can just use the staff normally.

[austere estuary]

with the flexibility to fire off much harder

[proven cipher]

Compare to Focus Channeling and Terrifying Barrage.

[austere estuary]

just hold right

and click left

and then hold left when you want to do charged

[proven cipher]

Basically you spam secondary instead of your primary

You change like a split second, which still deals more dmg than primary

But just as fast

[austere estuary]

also bigger hitbox, piercing etc

great stagger

[proven cipher]

Yep

[austere estuary]

amazing on poxbursters as it won't kill them but will knock them back and down

[proven cipher]

No point to ever use your primary on voidstrike

[lethal lagoon]

fairly certain the damage is lower, has been a while since I've checked though. you hav to charge it at least a little.

animation canceling the left click will always be crazy dps, so it doesn't compare in that reguard.

[mighty vault]

What perks are good for purgatus? I'm guessing burn stacks don't benefit from most of them? So putting 20% carapace damage on that big 16 damage per tick isn't doing much.

[lethal lagoon]

but that is technically a bug

crit applies a double stack

[austere estuary]

imo carapace is a bad perk forpurgatus for the reason you stated

[lethal lagoon]

so 4-5% crit is decent

[proven cipher]

Purgatus will do shit dmg on carapace

Regardless

[mighty vault]

But what's good, it isn't the little piddly tick that's doing any of your dps anyway

[austere estuary]

crit is nice on purgatus

[proven cipher]

Dmg vs flag and crit

[austere estuary]

imo

[mighty vault]

So crit, is that it?

[proven cipher]

Chance

[mighty vault]

Why would flak damage be any better

[austere estuary]

warp nexus also works

[proven cipher]

Apparently

Crit proc 2 stacks of soul blaze

[mighty vault]

I'm just talking about perks, blessings generally make more sense or are more clearly useless

[austere estuary]

because carapace damage on purgatus is terrible at a base level

flak not the same

[mighty vault]

Okay, that's useful to know.

[covert valve]

wow what a weird way to use this. i would of though it increase the charge rate of secondary as you keep firing it normally

[proven cipher]

Flak seem to still take alot of dmg from purg

[mighty vault]

Flak is still like 27 per tick, burn is where all the damage obviously is

[proven cipher]

And flak is most elites

[mighty vault]

Unless it's bugged?

[proven cipher]

Only carapace seem to be the crusher

[austere estuary]

and mauler head

[mighty vault]

And Bulwark with shield up, or does it go through that/stop completely?

[proven cipher]

Even the maulers are flak

[austere estuary]

head is carapace, iirc?

[clear heath]

Crit
But DoTs do benefit from perks anyways. They get buffed based on what weapon you have out

[mighty vault]

Oh, okay

[proven cipher]

Yeah you might be right about head

[austere estuary]

yeah, head is carapace on mauler

just checked

[mighty vault]

That alone is basically what I needed to know, that makes all the perks a lot less garbage than I though they were.

[proven cipher]

Fuck I have always been aim for the head as sharpshooter

No wonder

[austere estuary]

this is my purgatus atm

[clear heath]

@mighty vault look at how this flamer burn is scaling with my Axe's headtaker and stacking it up once i switch to it

pretty funny

[mighty vault]

Haha, yeah, and the lil dreg dudes with flak helmets, body shot them as well.

[covert valve]

@austere estuary once the "fast charge is used up" it restarts from 0%?

[austere estuary]

if you fire another back to back, I think it'll still benefit from the first stack, e.g. 10% on lvl 4 of the blessing

lemme double check

[mighty vault]

That seems like a bug, though.

[covert valve]

mine restarts from 0%, after i use it up

[austere estuary]

I'll record

[clear heath]

It probably isn't intended, but who knows if they'll bother to fix

[mighty vault]

I assume a lot of the bleed crap will get fixed eventually, it's probably just low priority right now given how fucked up everything else is

[austere estuary]

Why would it not be intended to improve charge speed on repeated secondaries for a blessing that says it does exactly that?

[proven cipher]

Really wonder how much 15 stacks of soul blaze does per tick

[austere estuary]

or we talking something else

[clear heath]

We're talking about my clip

[proven cipher]

And per tick is like 0.34 sec ish

[austere estuary]

okie

[clear heath]

where the axe buffs my burn stacks

for reasons

[austere estuary]

see the vid I just posted

[mighty vault]

You can just go to the psykanium and see

[austere estuary]

watch the bar jump up

[clear heath]

You can also buff your brain burst with blessings

[austere estuary]

it jumps a moment after beginning each charge

[proven cipher]

Not really most of them die before I ca see max

[austere estuary]

that's the base effect of warp flurry 8%

[proven cipher]

I see lien 230ish per tick

Before they die

[covert valve]

srry i meant after casting 5 stacks (40%) then the next one you need to build it back up again

[austere estuary]

it doesn't amtter if it's 1 stack or 5, so long as you keep casting it should work. I'll check and record

yeah it does stil work

[covert valve]

so if you spam left click 5 times then do the 40% charge the next charge is 40% again?

[austere estuary]

watch it jump on the cast after the full charge

no

it'll be 1 stack again

[covert valve]

ah ok

[austere estuary]

if we could get repeated 40% jumps it'd be incredibly busted, imo

[covert valve]

yeh

[long wharf]

it wouldn't be incredibly busted at all, it'd be working

[austere estuary]

also someone mentioned earlier channelling as a good blessing - I feel like it's great on trauma and purgatus (I barely ever touch surge so don't know) since they lose the entire cast for getting interrupted, but on void since it just seems to force fire it out I dunno if I value it on void

[long wharf]

I wouldn't want channeling on void

but on purge it's useful

[austere estuary]

charge times nearly cut in half most of a time would be wild imo

I mean I'd love it but

[long wharf]

wild? it'd be necessary for damnation

[austere estuary]

???

how though

[long wharf]

because void stops easily killing the horde on heresy+

requiring you to charge more for the same effect

being able to charge more quickly would compensate for that

[austere estuary]

Having a short charge before clearing horde doesn't really make things that rough on damnation outside of high intensity for me

[covert valve]

wait try the lighting staff please! it doesnt work the same? it seems like it starts off with it charged up a bit

[long wharf]

nope, doesn't work on surge

surge animation is too long

[austere estuary]

gonna go ring in new years now, happy purging siblings 🥳

[covert valve]

ok so fire staff seems broken too i timed it full charge its 1.8s

[vagrant cedar]

i think with purge staff you gotta do right click -> left click without releasing right click

for it to stack up

[long wharf]

nope, still doesn't work

[covert valve]

i dont see the jump

[vagrant cedar]

what about if you left click 5 times and then charge?

[covert valve]

i did that initially didnt work same 1.7s charge fully

[empty basin]

https://i.imgur.com/3xbKxsq.jpeg

Buy and upgrade or skip? low roll

[vagrant cedar]

what for are you gonna use it

probably one of the best out there

[empty basin]

I mostly rock dueling sword, but this got deflector and block eff on it already

[keen belfry]

just snagged this

[jovial quail]

Last game lets gooooo

[keen belfry]

sick frame

[empty basin]

that one does look nice

[keen belfry]

looking to see how close i am to that one lol

[covert valve]

how many hours do u have?

[jovial quail]

Realistically probably like 250-300ish lol

[empty basin]

Bro

Are you okay?

[jovial quail]

Been dreaming for fatshark to make this game for like 6 years and moved states early in oct lol

[keen belfry]

i cant even find that one lol

[jovial quail]

taking full advantange before I get back tow ork

[keen belfry]

that frame

[jagged fern]

imma name all coming sub classes: ogyrn:bodygaurd zealot:preist veteran:shocktrooper: pyskher:sanctioned

[raw breach]

I finally got my Malleus Monster penance, but now I'm even more convinced that Pick n Mix is one of the dumbest penances in the game

[keen belfry]

i dont really care about the sub classes i just want them to release the full crafting system

[rigid widget]

500

[keen belfry]

so i can play my character the way i would like to

[green delta]

Finished my purg staff

[keen belfry]

nice purg i think i have seen like 3 during all my time..

[green delta]

Yeah it's all rng

[keen belfry]

My store, Weekly, Gifts all guns and axes

[green delta]

Same. I get nothing but garbo

I upgraded this one from blue

[keen belfry]

ya my best stuff i have had to upgrade

[raw breach]

agreed. many of us feel exactly the same way. subclasses and future content will be cool in the future... but the game shouldn't have launched without crafting.

[keen belfry]

This has been my experience playing the game as a Pskyer.

[green delta]

Lol are you buying those?

[keen belfry]

no

all of these have been gifts

[green delta]

Oh daaaamn

[keen belfry]

I own only 5 staffs, and 1 Force sword

and thats on...

prob 150 hrs as pskyer?

[green delta]

Geeez

I would say just keep visiting the armoury

Spam spam spam

[keen belfry]

ohh i do...

i like to go taunt Vets in there channel with the amazing guns i have got

[green delta]

Lol

[green delta]

Hopefully crafting will make things easier later

[keen belfry]

if only these could have been staffs..

[olive ember]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1053454739452477563/image.png

[valid marsh]

Penetration is ass, finesse is ok...

[keen belfry]

the game wants me to be a tactical axe / gun pskyer

i do have this i dunno if its worth upgrading...

[mighty vault]

Not really?

[haughty schooner]

i personally like charge rate as dump stat on surge

cause i use it mainly for stuns so i dont really charge it much

[keen belfry]

ya i dont charge surge up to full ever really

[jovial quail]

Andddddd... Got it. Ngl it isn't as nice as I was hoping but still the best frame imo.

[keen belfry]

i thought i was cool with my nurggle frame

[grizzled harness]

best frame is 1 million kills

[copper raft]

the matrix?

[proven cipher]

So how does one do those 2 heresy penances for the psykers?

Somehow find 3 players willing to help you?

[worn heath]

pick and mix could be done alone, but itll be frustrating, malleus almost assuredly cant be done without the rest of your team onboard

[proven cipher]

So annoying the bulk for bb to do the 2 penance is definitely not optimal for heresy.

More often than not I find myself getting team wipe due to this build.

[ionic marlin]

is this good?

[abstract cedar]

yes

[ionic marlin]

nice, thx!

[ebon jolt]

Why did it have to be damage 😭

[vestal wraith]

How the hell?!

[vernal vault]

Is Increased Pox Hound sightings the only Global Condition in the game?

It's literally the only condition I see when I log on 💀

[jovial quail]

@vestal wraith 25x games a day for the last like week and a half Wanted to finish it up before I took a break from the game lol

[vestal wraith]

That's wild xD

Good on you

[jovial quail]

Tyty, I highly don't recommend doing it lol. I wanna frow up

[vestal wraith]

Oh god

I wish It was 250...

500 Is wild

big grind

[jovial quail]

Yeah alot of the penances are pretty ridiculous. Gotta grind that 1m kill one out next once we get solo match making

[vestal wraith]

Yeah, Is there a good way to grind kills?

[cyan notch]

well theyre probably meant to be long term goals

[vestal wraith]

Like anyone know?

[jovial quail]

A few of the missions have infinite hordes objectives so once we get solo let the bots die and just grind your heart out. With purg psyker imo

[vestal wraith]

Yeah bahahahaha

Wish we could do solo, but yeah.. One day

Which maps have them?

I know the smelter one does at the end, when you gotta extract they keep coming

[jovial quail]

Yeah... this artificial goal I set for myself is what kept me going lol. Off the top of my head though that desert map where you gotta place the 3 batteries in the center will be a good one.

Can just go into a small room and hold the chokepoint

[vestal wraith]

True True

[mighty vault]

yeah, play the game...? lmao

[jovial quail]

And yeah that smelter one will be solid too

[vestal wraith]

So you Just did any mission that had the conditions, low intensity, high intensity, hunting grounds etc

[jovial quail]

They asked for grinding purposes lol. Not natural progression

[vestal wraith]

^^

[mighty vault]

but why

you get it just playing

[copper raft]

masochism

[jovial quail]

First like 250 was heresy then was gonna take a break and decided to spam uprising/malice runs with any modifiers

[vestal wraith]

Correct. Not wrong. But I've got all 4 classes level 30, all class penances, now I wanna grind the other ones.

[mighty vault]

why make something purposefully less fun when you'l get it automatyically

[warm ledge]

should i swap out any of these perks?

[jovial quail]

Also! If you dual log and use like GeForce now you can actually do solo. I did like 10 missions with my roommates account to get me into games and left and no one ever joined

But that'd require an extra $40

[vestal wraith]

Keep the carapace, change the maniacs

[vestal wraith]

Bahahahahahahahaa

Like tier 2/3 Low Intensity runs?

[cyan notch]

BAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAA

[jovial quail]

Yeah they're fast 8-12 min missions if you're running a decent sprint efficiency build with knife

I wish I did it at the start, would've saved so much time

[vestal wraith]

Just sprint through and not kill much?

[warm ledge]

what do you recommend instead of maniacs? flak?

[jovial quail]

Yeah you can get through every mission onlynkilling a handful of enemies

[vestal wraith]

Yeah go for flak @warm ledge

Thats how we did the flesh wound penace @jovial quail

[jovial quail]

Plus the bots will teleport alot to get close to you so its good for like hunting ground missions as well

[vestal wraith]

Yeah correct

[warm ledge]

thanks

[vestal wraith]

Then max that bad boy out @warm ledge

[cyan notch]

carapace only works on one enemy i wouldnt keep that

[vestal wraith]

Yeah but maniacs?

[cyan notch]

what about em

[vestal wraith]

Could keep that and make the carapace 25 damage Instead

I thought surge staff Is great for flak/carapace?

[cyan notch]

his carapace is already 25

[vestal wraith]

Sorry I meant take away carapace and make It 25 flak Instead

[orchid nest]

the crusher damage is actually relevant though. won't add anything relevant to maniacs really.

[jovial quail]

Yeah might be worth since crushers have insanely high resistance to fire anyways

[vestal wraith]

I watched a video saying Its best to have flak/carapace so Its why I said get rid of maniacs

[jovial quail]

If you can get a good t4 warp nexus crit chance/flak imo is the go to for like 25% crit

[cyan notch]

it doesnt do insane damage to flak now

[jovial quail]

Since crits give extra stacks of soulblaze

[cyan notch]

they fixed that bug

[vestal wraith]

When?

[cyan notch]

last patch

i think the vfx one

[vestal wraith]

Interesting

[cyan notch]

used to do like 800-1000

on crit

now it does the advertised 500-600

[jovial quail]

Oh wait I thought that was a purg staff, ignore everything I've said I'm kinda delusional rn

[orchid nest]

flak/carapace is a decent combo for surge yeah. can also get unarmored to hit a regular dreg gunner breakpoint or have the peril dmg talent

for the left click

[vestal wraith]

Either way

Its a great staff.

Good base stats

380. Max that bad boy out

[long wharf]

peril based damage for surge isn't good, IMO

you're better off with peril resist per warp charge

means more surging

[vestal wraith]

Once he gets rebless he can change

[orchid nest]

anything that helps you reach an important game changing break point is good but you shouldn't just randomly take it

[warm ledge]

yeah i'll change the blessing when its available

[long wharf]

hmm

emperor just gave this to me

[vestal wraith]

Damn.. you must be sucking It?

[long wharf]

it's not bloodthirsty, but might not be bad for testing

[orchid nest]

yeah for sure

[warm ledge]

i think i'll keep % vs carapace since i'm testing on meat grinder right now and it can 4 shot crushers on damnation without crits

fully charged

[vestal wraith]

Nicely done

[orchid nest]

yeah I would just grab flak or crit for the maniac one

[warm ledge]

thanks for the help guys

[round robin]

hey, does the new skull face helmet for the psyker delete your hair?

[orchid nest]

no

[vestal wraith]

No

[orchid nest]

it can have some clipping issues though but it isn't too bad

[round robin]

have to make sure with this game, lmao, its pretty 50/50 what keeps the hair and what doesnt

still upset the cage helmet on zealot deletes the hair

[teal kite]

should I get dis

[steel egret]

No.

[ornate hamlet]

I think you should swap maniacs with unarmored since this weapon has less dmg towards unarmored enemies

[clear vigil]

I have a similar question lol

I hear it's somewhat rare for certain blessing/weapon combos to appear in the shop, this is the weekly contract shop

the base rating is low but the damage and blessing are there

cop?

not sure exactly what stats we're looking for on the force sword

[cyan notch]

yea cop

damage finesse and first target are the important ones

unless you already have a better deflector fs

[near wyvern]

Yeah funny thing, it actually applies double the stacks listed on crit hit since crits apply double blaze

[long wharf]

that's pretty funny

[near wyvern]

Your finesse and first target are pretty low. Special may not slice mutants on damnation that well but if you mainly play herecy of lower it will surely do

[clear vigil]

thanks for the heads up, I don't have one at all so

that's one of the reasons I'm really eyeing this one

[gilded chasm]

any suggestions for gun other than kantrel XII

for tanky gun psyker with deflect sword. I am not liking th recon past T3 really, and the build i am going for is to support team as a hybrid ogryn meets sharpshooter to just cc a different way other than purgatus tanking

[cyan notch]

we dont have a lot of choices

its either kantrael variants or recon lasgun

the autoguns use too much ammo and hold too little

[long wharf]

if you want to support the team, use a staff

[ebon jolt]

If you can find a recon lasgun with infernus it can be pretty good. The burn adds a good amount extra DPS. Headhunter is a great blessing combo with it.

I’ve been enjoying the Mk1 Infantry Autogun recently. I usually tap at range and go full auto close up. Does a lot of damage and has a 30 clip size at high ammo. Like a mix between the headhunter and braced but does actual damage unlike the headhunter and can ADS unlike the braced.

I like the feel of using the revolver but until they fix the issue of revolver at high peril I’m not using it.

Give us shotguns!

[abstract cedar]

The gun Psyker meme needs to die lol

I actually saw one on Damnation today, couldn't believe it

[ebon jolt]

I beat a damnation run with gun psyker earlier 😅

[abstract cedar]

We finished, but we dragged him the whole way while he vacuumed up the ammo the vet could have been using

[sage flower]

fucking finally

[gilded chasm]

Thanks! I'll be on the lookout. I will need to keep deflector though due to this build style

[leaden pier]

should i get this for funny gun psyker gameplay?

[gilded chasm]

probably not. Its not exactly run and gun build

[ebon jolt]

That blessing seems pretty gnarly.

[gilded chasm]

you wanna be bodyguarding like an ogryn would and then quickly snipe the specials when the hoard lines up

[cyan notch]

horde

[sage flower]

i've heard inspiring barrage is bugged and nonfunctional.

[ebon jolt]

Can always pick it up and have it ready to slot into a 380 shredder pistol when crafting is fully implemented and the blessing is fixed.

[clear heath]

man i hate it when everyone else dies and they just leave right away
I want an audience for my clutch

[loud osprey]

they leave to give you a bot

[clear heath]

yeah but it's less fun that way

[hot zephyr]

I recommend MkV Columbus, MkVIII Graia, or MkI Agrippa. They all have the burst damage to hold their own in T5 no issue, but you can't just blast away like the 4th of july like a veteran, you need to be strategic with your ammo and use melee/BB quite a bit

[loud osprey]

it's the ultimate sacrifice, that or they are just rage quiting

[hot zephyr]

I dunno why, I see this on Zealots constantly. They run into the first group on a heresy/damn run unsupported, then ragequit when they get downed/captured immediately

[abstract cedar]

I'm in an endless cycle of starting Damnation lobbies and having all 3 teammates immediately getting downed and quitting

[clear heath]

tbh i play heresy just for those moments where the entire team just dies and i get to clutch the run
if it was damn, i'd appreciate the bot, but for heresy i just want the audience

[covert valve]

I Got these 3 Deflectors, too many not sure which ones better

[loud osprey]

public heresy is actually damnation, discord damnation is actually malice

[clear heath]

Anyways, what happened to this boss?

Like it just dissappeared

at first i thought it fell or something but it wasn't that close to a ledge and no one did any knockback moves or anything

maybe flamer is just that op...

[leaden pier]

probably something to do with the ogryn's charge

[clear heath]

but you can see the ogryn completely missing the boss

[leaden pier]

ah i dunno then

[loud osprey]

heretics works in mysterious ways

[leaden pier]

warp shenanigans

[hot zephyr]

The 377 base one is far superior. Just need to reroll the +8% to elites to something more useful imo. I'd recommend either Maniacs or Infested depending whether you target specials or hordes with it. (finesse is important stat, look how much better the finesse is on that one)

[abstract cedar]

This mf out here with three deflectors while the rest of us are starving, capitalism really do be killing us

[covert valve]

i got more these are just the orange ones

[abstract cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/pengu-explode-explosion-gif-16788891

[leaden pier]

what perk should i replace the 20% against maniacs with?

[dusky lantern]

25% Maniacs

[subtle linden]

time to upgrade?

[old crystal]

Can anyone explain to me why the psyker has guns? Is it ever better than having a staff, honestly?

[honest frost]

I had like five staves tops while levelling to 30, and two of those were trauma

[terse estuary]

Middle one looks great to me

[valid marsh]

first target could be better but if you can get deflector on there it'll probably be serviceable

[hybrid stump]

can someone help me with Pick n Mix peneace 😦 so hopeles...

[subtle linden]

if i choose to reroll perk

reroll the infested dmg to what

[valid marsh]

Well the weapon has high weakpoint multiplier and low damage, so I think if you aim for weakpoints and get a 10% groaners/poxwalkers bonus you'll have some good chaff clear and your special action for dispatching more resilient threats. Alternatively go for 25% carapace armor damage so you can deal with crushers easy, but that might be over specializing.

[old crystal]

Between the Antax MKV and the FS, which do you prefer? The FS seems like it's more versatile, where the axe is more focused on pure damage. Also, when I'm swinging the axe it feels very single target, compared to the sword.

[abstract cedar]

No
A staff is better in every situation

There's a gun Psyker meme but it's just for fun

Force sword is heavily dependent on blessings to be its best

[old crystal]

Does the same apply to the axe? I'm reading about it now, and everything I'm reading says it needs brutal something or other.

[clear vigil]

I would spend my weekly contract currency on that and then another one would appear almost the same at the armory a couple of hours later lol

[abstract cedar]

It's better with that, but I think that axe comes with armor piercing out of the box which is never bad.

Force sword kind of needs Deflector to shine but it still has a good moveset and quells peril

I don't think either one is bad

[jovial frigate]

i mean its a 380 i guess

[abstract cedar]

Headcanon - The psyker has a museum of guns he takes from the bodies of assassination targets

[tropic oak]

Is Devil's claw better than force sword early? (levels 11-30?)

[abstract cedar]

If you get one that does better damage and has a good perk, sure

[toxic mountain]

Happy New Year siblings!

[unborn basalt]

Do daemonhosts work for the monstorun penance?

[violet yoke]

yes

[alpine portal]

happy new year spark head

[unborn basalt]

Damn

90% is a pain then

[hybrid stump]

can someone help me with PicknMix penance :"< I dont wanna ruin other fun when trying to do penance in their game

[orchid cairn]

Hey everyone! I finished doing my Gunslinger Psyker 101 guide. Also contains general gameplay tips for any class. Go check it out if you are interested! https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2904458225

[long wharf]

great, you wrote a guide on how to be a worse psyker

[elfin roost]

Upon testing, there is no doubt in my mind

[loud osprey]

I can see the damage stacks quite well with the feats but psyker not using ammo is still quite a massive selling point

[elfin roost]

Psyker/Pskinetic staffs are so bad I literally feel like Im suffering throughout the mission by not being or using anyone or anything else

A heavy laspistol is... unironically tempting

[round shuttle]

Sounds like psyker gameplay just isn’t for you

Because for better or worse that’s what we got right now

[elfin roost]

I just dont know whats wrong

Its not like infinite ammo or managing peril is hard or anything but every staff just feels like shooting nerf darts

[orchid cairn]

If you don't like using the staffs but like using Psyker try him with guns. Maybe you will like that approach.

[loud osprey]

that's the thing, you dont shoot the funny left click nerf darts

[elfin roost]

If I cant deal with gun users in any way its just pain

[loud osprey]

use cover, if it doesnt work, use bigger cover

[elfin roost]

I guess but my team shoots them when pigs start to fly

Anyways I seem to have resolved the issue

This. This gun that everybody says is underpowered, feels more helpful to me than any staff he has and any move those staves have

[loud osprey]

void strike staff is the best staff for ranged units, the rest of the staffs are better at close range stagger and damage

[elfin roost]

Yeah that makes sense

[loud osprey]

you do need a good rng for voidstrike tho

[elfin roost]

Force swords though

Wooh, I love force swords

[mighty kite]

anyone have tips on how to complete the going out with a bang penance

[elfin roost]

Dont, please your team will hate you

But seriously, all ya need is a fireteam you can ask to wait on close range specials so you can kill em

[loud osprey]

plenty of teams in recruit looking for this penance, go get their help

[elfin roost]

Wait a second

Why does it cost peril to push with the heavy laspistol?

OH THIS AN OMEGA PUSH

[loud osprey]

you can push with laspistol?

[elfin roost]

Yeah, the special

[loud osprey]

big push or single target?

[elfin roost]

Psykers will send their hand forward to make a shockwave, knocks horde units flat on their ass from like 10 meters

[loud osprey]

wtf?

[elfin roost]

A few in front of you

Like, I dont think theres a max

Maybe 5?

[loud osprey]

that's something to test out when I get out of gulag

assuming the shop sells it

[elfin roost]

You actually just straight up send em too

[loud osprey]

care to give screenshot?

[loud osprey]

interesting

[loud osprey]

that would be interesting for fun psykers

should see if other guns also got a push

[elfin roost]

Me when psyker actually has a useful ranged tool:

Im absolutely sure that if it works on laspistol it works on shredder since theyre both 1 handed

Best part though is it wont do anything but line up a free headshot on elites

[loud osprey]

some is probly just flashlights

[elfin roost]

Itll straight up stagger armored maulers

[loud osprey]

combing rager?

[elfin roost]

Yeah

[cyan notch]

it does heavy stagger on maniacs but not flak

[elfin roost]

^

[cyan notch]

so the dreg rager will shrug it off

[ornate hamlet]

Shield ogryn, unarmored ragers, brainburst each of them once and then explode yourself

[loud osprey]

that's sad

[cyan notch]

its very weird

[elfin roost]

It still knocks em into the stumble though

Arguably better since itll line a shot up

[loud osprey]

you are in testing arena tho, rager is a bit different when attacking

[elfin roost]

Yeah ragers have insane stagger resist during attacks

Ill check if it still works

[loud osprey]

never understood stagger tbh, but f always works

[elfin roost]

Basically its damage but it very quickly gets shrugged off in my experience

[old crystal]

If an enemy is staggered, they're not attacking you. Simple.

[elfin roost]

Once enough stagger damage is dealt, theyll be staggered

[loud osprey]

stagger resistance in different enemy I meant

[old crystal]

Ooooh

[plain island]

Do I

[cyan notch]

yea

[loud osprey]

oof quell speed

[plain island]

That's the only downside ree

[old crystal]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-evil-headnod-jack-nicholson-gif-8019533

[loud osprey]

but I guess its workable

[elfin roost]

Each enemy has a certain level of super armor during certain attacks, each enemy has a base level of stagger resist before you pop it like health

[old crystal]

"I guess it's workable" yall are fuckin NERDS

Of course it's workable, it's 377

[loud osprey]

dont call your siblings nerds

nerd

[elfin roost]

Oh yeah I will also have to mention

That 10 meter push is a little more precise than youd think

[loud osprey]

hmm yes, let me bring out the ruler out before I push

[elfin roost]

Its just gonna push directly what youre aiming at within the outer edges of the crosshair lol

Its no fancy "back the hell off"

Even though it will send multiple enemies flying

[old crystal]

Are you talking about the F push?

[loud osprey]

insults the enemy
stagger the shit out of them
refuse to elaborate
psyker in a nutshell

anyone knows what "by the five" mean on the psyker's f

[old crystal]

I mean, it depends on how you build your character. It can be devastating and very far reaching when built right.

[manic needle]

Sure, the five Chaos gods (including the lesser-known Malice, who may or may not exist)

[warped widget]

high level drops so hard to get.. my best rating is a 380 Heavy Laspistol my max upgrade possibility is 510 rating

[manic needle]

It's a pretty cool nod to some of the older fans of 40k imo

[loud osprey]

oh wow my psyker really is a heretic

[old crystal]

https://i.imgur.com/GH8O9Sd.mp4

[manic needle]

Lorgar did nothing wrong

[elfin roost]

Heavy Laspistol has a push special

[loud osprey]

f range is definitely weird, it does lesser and lesser stagger the further the enemy is but the flame feat just shows how big the range really is

[elfin roost]

Psyker can actually do a super push with it

[old crystal]

Ah, gotcha

[elfin roost]

Trying out gunpsyker because as I have found

Them staves aint worth shit

[warped widget]

?

[old crystal]

gunsyker is a dead fish. You have no idea what you're talking about lol.

Or you're flame baiting

I will say, granted, they're crap before you reach level 25-30, but they're definitely not "shit"

[loud osprey]

staffs is not shit yes, but guns can work with the right feats

you are going to give up the role of best cc if you are not using staff tho

[old crystal]

What feats synergize with guns??

[loud osprey]

BB 15% damage buff, random bb per hit

dont remember the names

but that's the effects

warp charges gives you extra damage with guns too

[warped widget]

the only one would be Kinetic Flayer combined with wrack and ruin

[loud osprey]

and it let anyone who dont like staff to just be an american

[elfin roost]

But dont I have best cc with power sword? Or any ogryn/zealot weapon? I seriously dont see where the 500x buff to every staff comes once you reach 25-30

[tired estuary]

power sword doesn't literally stagger mutants at range with point n click

[cyan notch]

must be nice to have power swords

[elfin roost]

But veteran can delete them before they get close too

[tired estuary]

yeah and ogryn can throw a box

but sometimes other shit is happening

also psyker not using ammo can make a big difference on t5

[elfin roost]

Which is just why psyker isnt quite as good

[loud osprey]

stagger specials without taking damage, multiple hits too, power sword is a lot more riskier at time

[elfin roost]

Having to charge every attack that even does damage makes it so that psyker has no place in very crowded situations if its not purgatus

[tired estuary]

You don't have to charge surge for it to stagger except maybe partway vs mutants

[cyan notch]

void is pretty good

[elfin roost]

Force sword has all the utility of a staff in the casing of a very strong weapon

Aside from range, of course

Guns have about 80% the utility of a staff but there really isnt a situation Ive been able to find where "shoot it" was a more complicated solution

[dim cradle]

New year, new build! Just tried gun psyker and it was pretty glob dang fun! Not dunking on staves tho, purg is my jam 🤘

[weary idol]

(at the cost of absolute dogshit damage on every attack except the activation)

[elfin roost]

Just like a staff

[weary idol]

voidstrike and trauma do pretty acceptable damage

[loud osprey]

trauma?

[weary idol]

trauma of course obliterates your psykers brain and turns it into a raisin

[loud osprey]

ah

[weary idol]

but it does do nice damage

[loud osprey]

trauma goes very nice with the beat of assassination target boss theme, that alone goes very high in the ranking in my head

[tired estuary]

purgatus does fine vs crowds which is its job, surge dmg isnt' great but its literally a near instant multi second stagger that highlights enemies and doesn't use resources. Crowds can get in the way sometimes but it can still just lock down entire groups of ogryns without any real commitment

[weary idol]

surge damage is pretty damn fantastic

Against flak armor only

[tired estuary]

dmg isn't the point, it's a midrange stagger that you don't even have to really aim

[weary idol]

then trauma which i'd also argue does the same thing

[loud osprey]

highly prefer someone to cover me with purg if I'm using surge

[weary idol]

but you do have to aim

and aiming it is dumb and unintuitive

[tired estuary]

trauma takes time and costs significantly more peril

[weary idol]

and also the whole raisin brain thing

[loud osprey]

"you will nut in 30 secs guaranteed"

[elfin roost]

Psyker's staffs are best when theres much 👍

[weary idol]

but yeah trauma does pretty sweet damage

damage is definitely yhe dump stat on it though

[tired estuary]

surge also good vs dog's clownhonk pathfinding and keeping them stuck so party can wail on them easier

[weary idol]

it needs everything else to be high to be usable

max warp resist and quell speed is not optional

[elfin roost]

OK THAT IS THE ONE SITUATION STAVES ARE INVALUABLE LMFAO

Every single one can at least beat the shit outta hounds

[tired estuary]

and there's other situations where they work

and again, do not fucking cost ammo

[weary idol]

I mean being honest if you're playing gun psyker with a recon lasgun

you basically don't use ammo anyways

[elfin roost]

^

[loud osprey]

damage really feels like a dump stat in a lot of weapons, the percentage to actual damage difference is not that much

[elfin roost]

Checkmate witches

[weary idol]

especially if you hug the veteran

[elfin roost]

Not gonna lie though

If I was forced to use one staff and one staff only

itd be purgatus

[loud osprey]

yes

[weary idol]

i'd probably use voidstrike tbh

it's the most versatile of the staves imo

[elfin roost]

More synergy than literally anything since soulflame is so prevalent in the talents

[tired estuary]

purge is strong with one obvious weakness, surge is braindead easy to use and just needs decent crowd clear main weapon, bowling ball is bowling ball

[elfin roost]

Fair enough, though I feel it really lacks in hitting hard

[radiant yew]

What's a warp charge

[loud osprey]

soul flame only gives warp charges at best, doesnt seems to do much damage?

[radiant yew]

I skipped the tutorial and basic

[old crystal]

Every time you pop someone's head you gain a warp charge. To a max of 4 (6 with a feat) and the more warp charges you have, the more damage/effect your Ultimate has.

[elfin roost]

Youd be surprised, you can sneeze on an enemy with it and they die eventually

[loud osprey]

oh no not covid again

[old crystal]

Does Kinetic Flayer only proc on the initial damage of an attack, or can it happen from burning damage?

[alpine portal]

it can not trigger from soul fire as far as i have seen, it can proc from purga staff hit, but not the effect

[tired estuary]

idk if it can proc from dot but it can proc midway during attack of surge/purg hit

[weary idol]

only on initial damage

DoT can't proc it

[alpine portal]

I asked this in zelot, but you guys are smarter then them 🙂 jk , can flamer crit? like purga staff does?

[loud osprey]

that is indeed true, us psyker are definitely a lot more smarter than all the other classes

[weary idol]

fuck if I know I don't play that class

[loud osprey]

base crit is 5% and all zealot feats seems to only trigger with melee only, but sure why you care about it but yea I dont no idea lol

I would assume it does, but again, only 5%

[alpine portal]

I got a flamer with crit, on my alt. it looks a lot better, but idk what to reroll

[loud osprey]

roll for unarmored I guess?

that's what I do with purg too

quicker you deal with the horde the quicker you can deal with other things

[feral crater]

roll for initiative

[loud osprey]

12

[alpine portal]

-1

[loud osprey]

ffs did you dump your dex again

[feral crater]

The penalty from unpainted minis still needs to be added dude

[alpine portal]

im wearing heavy armor, as a sorlockadin warforged.. I dont need dex.

true story btw

[loud osprey]

fair enough, I will be there to stabilize you when you fail your dex save

[elfin roost]

I wont

[alpine portal]

🙂

[alpine portal]

Some one has to go last....

[loud osprey]

sorlockadin seems like a interesting build for spell slots

share your build in the psyker chat why dont you

[alpine portal]

I mean I will.... if you want lol

[loud osprey]

yea let's just take over the chat

[vague grotto]

git good bois

[elfin roost]

My man noooooo

That better have been an accident

[vague grotto]

it was

accidentally planned...

[loud osprey]

so planned then

[alpine portal]

no one else is here..
2 lvl paladin to start, 5 lvls hex blade and the rest divine soul. specifically for spirit guardians..
eltritch blast grasp of hadar, quicken booming blade or green flame blade, or twin booming blade quicking booming blade.

no one else was here....

[loud osprey]

thought you got sor too?

[alpine portal]

divine sould sorc is sorc.. lol

[loud osprey]

oh

[alpine portal]

its the rest of the build.

[loud osprey]

read that as smite lol

cantrip doesnt allow extra attack tho, a bit sad

[alpine portal]

you can smite on a quickened and twinned gfb

( new rules done allow this but every table I play with does. )

( twinned Booming blade )

[loud osprey]

ooh you can technically smite with booming blade

that's a lot of damage

[alpine portal]

yah nothing says you cant, and booming blade is an attack, you can also quicken green flame blade and booming blade no issue, so two attacks, two smites. you do need spell slots tho lots of spell slots.

[loud osprey]

sor point gives warlock spell slots too?