#psyker-class

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bleak tulip
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if you pull DH two times in one mission im letting you fuckin die

weary wasp
cyan notch
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wait this is a bug?

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this post is so old too

flint turtle
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I mean

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If it is a bug

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I haven't noticed

bleak tulip
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I only really noticed when dodge dancing after running my stam bar empty

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kinda doubt its a bug

flint turtle
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I mean it makes sense

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I wouldn't mind if dodging took stam

cyan notch
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i thhought everyone knew about it

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i definitely noticed it

flint turtle
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I hope they don't fix it

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It makes sense

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Plus, makes spam less effective

manic needle
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Wait, you can get Transfer Peril on Trauma Staffs...?

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Does it even do anything?

mystic dirge
flint turtle
bleak tulip
manic needle
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lmaoooo

bleak tulip
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but hey at least its free on a headshot embracepain

mystic dirge
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I wasn't going to boom myself because I thought we had a chance of surviving

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and then I see the team list lol

manic needle
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Epic Fatshark Moment

fresh reef
weary wasp
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Dodge stops the stamina regen for a moment

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I highly doubt it's a bug

fresh reef
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I mean it got acknowledged

celest hedge
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i keep forgetting that you can bop people with the staves

fresh reef
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Usually translates to "mm yes bug πŸ‘"

fresh reef
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It would be funny

bleak tulip
celest hedge
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if maybe it had a charge effect kind of similar to the warp sword but weak

bleak tulip
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fairly sure you cant do that

weary wasp
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Stave melee is just a fancy push KEKW_ogryn

fresh reef
celest hedge
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like you can do a charge hit that has an extra effect based on the staff

fresh reef
bleak tulip
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how would that even work

fresh reef
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Like, in order for it to be consistent you'd need the enemy to be tposing on a perfectly flat area

bleak tulip
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I am by no means a trauma expert but every time I fucked around with it it just hits like a purg hits

fresh reef
bleak tulip
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that seems like a bug lol

fresh reef
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It sure seems like one

celest hedge
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Is trauma the one with the charge thing on the ground?

fresh reef
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Don't remember if conflag staff ever did that

orchid venture
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that was fucking disappointing

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clutched it out 3 damn times in that mission, saving everyone

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and we all die at the end cause I misjudged how far you dodge with the dueling saber, and flew off a cliff

celest hedge
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You see no one using that past level 5 when you unlock it, it just feels like a worst version of a veteran nade

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Doesn’t really kill since most enemies not on the center just get pushed around

orchid venture
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it really should do more for how much peril it gives for using it a single time

near wyvern
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Yeah trauma needs either a damage & radius buff or lesser peril cost

Currently void strike is just the better trauma if you want that kind of gameplay

old crystal
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better staff*

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It's...just the best lol.

weary wasp
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Void is good for trash but it's pretty bad on higher difficulties

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Still good for trash tho

near wyvern
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It's not the best staff. Purge, surge and void each have their strengths and weaknesses

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The best all-around staff for high difficulties is purge but it forces you to deal with ranged using BB

weary wasp
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That reminds me of void users who only spam uncharged secondary...

runic gate
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Lets go who needs pick n mix, perfect map is up rn

weary wasp
bleak tulip
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ngl I tried purg on heresy several times and I dont see how not having a range option other than BB even remotely outclasses the lower effort horde clear

weary wasp
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The range is still only ever useful against clusters or hordes on void, where picking off elites or specials takes a while even with headshots. With maxed cloud purg is still a good 20 ish meters distance

bleak tulip
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you can kill gunners in two hits and snipers in one void

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bombers in one too

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trappers in like two

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at any range

river sand
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and 20m is the average range you can piss

weary wasp
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Which is also a single bb for each of those

river sand
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dont forget the tremendous amount of suppression void has

bleak tulip
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which is still slower

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even with KB

weary wasp
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Granted you can hit crowds too

river sand
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and the ability to kill gunners in cover

bleak tulip
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while I shoot a sniper or bomber I am still shooting through hordes usually too

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its also more reliable to hit than BB if there is anything else near the target

weary wasp
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I think you can get double projectile on crit blessing for void? Either way I kinda dumped it for the time being

river sand
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purg is overrated, yes its great against horde but horde is nothing a good old mk5 or devils claw cant handle

weary wasp
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Purg has the best synergy with current class takents

river sand
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it has

weary wasp
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It also melts elites and specials

bleak tulip
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because it has any synergy, thats not really a big challenge

river sand
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but great synergy on a limited staff makes it still limited

weary wasp
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Minus crushees ofc. Plus boss damage dot

bleak tulip
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void still kills the same elites while also horde clearing too tho thonk

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you can infinitely stagger ragers if you keep hitting them too

weary wasp
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I used to diss on purg too until trying out max cloud + max burn with 30-2 talent

bleak tulip
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im not dissing on purg, I think its fun and I wish it wasnt so limited

steel egret
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I have 380 purga but it has low cloud

weary wasp
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It's as limited as zealot flamer

steel egret
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Sad

weary wasp
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If it wasn't, it would be broken KEKW_ogryn

river sand
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purg has its spot but its not the holy grail like ppl like to praise it

bleak tulip
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yeah except zealot flamer does more damage, zealot flamer just takes longer to reload

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also it leaves zealot more limited too

steel egret
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Havent used purga since beta

bleak tulip
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because zealot has literally nothing other than charging into gunners left at that point

weary wasp
bleak tulip
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ngl I havent seen anyone praise surge in a while here

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probably because the people playing it quit because its so boring Kekw

river sand
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i'll praise it again when they allow it to roll blazing spirit

weary wasp
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It's fine, if you get good rolls and build for crit/flak damage

steel egret
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If they removed run'gun blessing.

weary wasp
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But if you're just 120 power cc bot then yeh. It's miserable

river sand
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most ppl use it wrong anyway, in 90% of time you should use it to stun and close distance to wrack havoc with your mk5

steel egret
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Highest surge staff 362, huge oof considering rest are 380 or over 370.

river sand
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the other 10% are elites staggering

bleak tulip
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even a max roll surge doesnt do shit for damage man

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lets be real

weary wasp
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Surge has enough damage to easily kill maulers and crushers in bulk

river sand
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it does quite good dmg on armoured elites if you aim it right

runic gate
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Anyone free to pick n pix? Need 1 more.

weary wasp
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Dreg gunners too, flak zerkers, etc

runic gate
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Striketeam 2

weary wasp
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But it's armor only damage

river sand
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just gotta take care that the end of animation extra damage hits the right targets

bleak tulip
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dreg gunners? you mean scab gunners right

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dreg gunners dont have armor

weary wasp
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I always confuse the two KEKW_ogryn

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Either way full charge one shots a generic armored shooty boy

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And best part is that they can be anywhere in the room, it will still kill in bulk

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Which is prob why I stepped away from void. Killing one shooter at a time can become... Tedious

river sand
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for me best is void with high crit and surge blessing

weary wasp
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Yes crit is important

river sand
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unfortunatley i have surge only on a pretty low rolled void

bleak tulip
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I mean if you have to run up to the gunners first to even get em because surge range is like 20 meters?

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youre putting yourself out there and I am not surprised people think deflector is mandatory Kekw

weary wasp
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Can zap from behind a wall, plus I'm a filthy FS deflector yser with 60% block eff

bleak tulip
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also crit on void is pretty dog tbh

weary wasp
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Cuz I hate gunners specifically

bleak tulip
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only gets base crit and it only rolls on each charged attack, not per target

weary wasp
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What was the blessing for two projectiles on crit? Is it primary only!

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? *

bleak tulip
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its also rare as fuck and just kind of not very good

river sand
weary wasp
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Well there you have it

river sand
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and paired with crit its amazing

weary wasp
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Granted nothing beats quell on headshot for void still

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Just free shots 24/7

river sand
weary wasp
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Never got it KEKW_ogryn

bleak tulip
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wouldnt be surprised if its another tier 4 only

steel egret
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Never had one

bleak tulip
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since it doesnt seem to be scalable

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which means its on the rare blessings list like deflect but it only rolls as a 4 so its doubly rare

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only seen a few of these posted

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honestly doesnt seem good because crits already grill everything when they happen Kekw

magic burrow
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what does that even do?

steel egret
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When critical 2 Balls

weary wasp
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+1 stamina comes as both t3 and t4, whatever that's worth

magic burrow
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crit is rolled when you cast it and not on impact then, I assume

bleak tulip
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I mean thats a perk

steel egret
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Yes

bleak tulip
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that doesnt really mean that its the same for blessings

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and with the other one for FS that gives you 5 seconds of crit on special activation kill its only ever been posted as a 4

bleak tulip
night marten
weary wasp
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All crits are on attack

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That's why you can crit thin air KEKW_ogryn

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Not sure how it works with zealot bleed tho. Maybe only applies bonus when directly targeting the bleeding enemy?

lethal plover
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Any info on when the next patch arrives?

idle bay
lethal plover
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Man

clear heath
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can't wait for next patch where they delete psykers from the game

weary wasp
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They either drop it this week or... They are all on holidays rn

steel egret
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Would have dropped yesterday right?

magic burrow
idle bay
idle bay
# magic burrow the black ships are coming

Class will be renamed into - veteran clumsy-shooter. Class features and feats removed, force weapons removed, guns and non force melee weapons will stay. Stats (Toughness, Health and Stamina) will remain the same.. for reasons πŸ™‚

magic burrow
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new patch, made staves even less likely to show up in the shop. By the way here's another post mission laspistol. Good job. You deserved it.

opaque mason
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Anyone noticed that machine gun Voidstrike tech is harder/more inconsistent with Quietitude feat active?

heady swan
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Okay yeah i mean yeah I mean okay I mean yeah.

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This works.

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I am just thankful to the beneficent emperor that it wasn't fucking limbsplitter.

whole wharf
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Limbsplitter....KEKW_ogryn

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What a funny blessing

heady swan
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That shit is heresy.

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Actually ruins your weapon.

whole wharf
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Mmhm

heady swan
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Unless you're a psyker apparently but still that only makes me think it's heresy more

cyan notch
magic burrow
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*gave the trauma staff a bit more oomph with new graphical effects

hybrid stump
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anyone having tip on doing Going with a Bang peneace? like map or difficulty?

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:"< I really need some advices, please

rose gazelle
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i will never understand with someone rolling 380 base stats, and someone saying "it could be better"
my brother in christ it is the highest you can roll in stats

fluid knot
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The mythical 400 green weapon

hybrid stump
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are you human ?

fluid knot
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No im a servitor

hybrid stump
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😱

light citrus
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A zealot weapon appear for psyker staregryn

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My second Deflector

worthy pulsar
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Hello! Does anyone have tips how to do penances for psyker ?
Like bang out of bomb and others ?

weary wasp
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Premade parties
That's all

worthy pulsar
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is there is a party who can help with it ?

idle bay
weary wasp
idle bay
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Even with premade and clear realisation what and how to do.. things may not go smooth πŸ™‚

wise pumice
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i've just read about the new crafting options supposedly coming in the future... and got rid of loads of weapons with pretty good blessings for coins... im a dumbass πŸ˜‚

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apparently you can do votive offerings to collect blessings for new weapons, super gutted.

weary wasp
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I figured that would be the case from the get go, since I doubt theyd just let you pick whatever blessing you want

wise pumice
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i wasn't sure. i've not played any of the other tide games and i know the option is there for reblessing, but i wasnt sure how the mechanics would work, and i wish i'd saved allllll the weapons for subsuming

weary wasp
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Granted, no idea what they gonna do about blessing tiers still

vagrant cedar
cyan notch
frigid marten
vagrant cedar
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who cares

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wipe your whole inventory and start a new

fringe remnant
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hmm 362 on a purgatus, or 380 on a lasgun?

There are a heap of feats for fire and none for guns, but the guns seem to do so much more damage than the staves.

frigid marten
vagrant cedar
weary wasp
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Damage isn't everything

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~~ even tho psyker gets raw 34% more damage vs elites on 4 warp charges and while in coherency~~

fringe remnant
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I've played with them both a few times. The lasgun feels stronger, but it also feels like I should just be playing a class that has feats for that weapon

weary wasp
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That's why I switched to purgatus after 2 other staffs

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Vet just feels better with guns

fringe remnant
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yeah, kinda spoiled for choice on the fire front, and yet even with all the right blessings and feats it still feels a fair bit weaker than veteran

weary wasp
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Those are some good sticks

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First time seeing blazing spirit. Delicious

summer prairie
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t4 blazing spirit should be +4 and max of 12, might actually do something by that point

fringe remnant
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yeah getting 5 critical hits on something is asking a lot of a force sword

weary wasp
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It's not intended to be an independent source of damage, much like most of blaze talents

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It stacks with other charge / refreshes them

summer prairie
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It's questionable to assume much intent given how quickly things seem to have been thrown together

weary wasp
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Let me cope with my wack ass class synergy

summer prairie
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bloodthirsty+that should be decent especially since you'll cleave some targets but then you give up deflector

fringe remnant
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that doesn't necessarily flow to all blessings though i suppose

weary wasp
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Prob cuz it's based off vt2

fringe remnant
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i could see how soulblaze would get oppressive if it were much stronger

weary wasp
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Granted, visuals and cosmetics are leagues above, and gunplay isn't just musket's hitscan ragdoll on click

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And yeh there is still a lot to work on, especially with psyker

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Some say all classes but vet are bad but I think zealot is still good, minus some useless talents

fringe remnant
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its just so weird that vet has such a powerful sword

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psyk has to charge a force sword, the vet's sword is just that powerful all the time

weary wasp
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It's not that great once you get a good 380 melee. But the buff on it is deff better than a friggin shove that most weapons got

summer prairie
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it's still ridiculous, it cleaves for a lot more damage than anything elese

weary wasp
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yeh 10 headshots minimum in one swing is a bit much

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They mightv nerf it but brutal momentum is still there KEKW_ogryn

summer prairie
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the problem is the damage drop-off, brutal momentum by itself isn't that great if the later targets take 30 damage

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the only reason it's pretty great on antax mkv is because the third target damage happens to be ~70 and apparently the following targets also take that

paper wagon
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I hate how visually crippling force sword's block animation is.

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When there's 30 shooters on me in Damnation, and I'm scooting my gay ass to some cover, can I see something besides a dusty ass windshield?

vagrant cedar
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how did you get to 34% more dmg

valid frigate
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How do I increase and keep my warp charge

vagrant cedar
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10 is aura, and 3% per warp

weary wasp
fringe remnant
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psychic communion also helps

vagrant cedar
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i think 3

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12% at 4

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18% at 6

hot zephyr
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It's 3% per charge, additive stacking

weary wasp
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3

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thats like

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garbage. man

vagrant cedar
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well

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that's 12%

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12% on an axe that does 280dmg

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makes it over 300

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which from 2 hits per mob

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you go down to 1 shotting them

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can be big

ornate hamlet
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Best psyker melee weapon opinions?
I've been indecisioning between knife and force sword mostly.

weary wasp
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meanwhile zealot just stacks 4% by slapping someone

vagrant cedar
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an axe

ornate hamlet
weary wasp
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anything you rolled well

vagrant cedar
ornate hamlet
vagrant cedar
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no

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the other axe

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combat ones

ornate hamlet
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Okay

hot zephyr
vagrant cedar
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the goal is to have enough dmg/perks so that you can 1 shot mobs

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so that you can manipulate the horde and shit

random wolf
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Antax V basically lol

vagrant cedar
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yes

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if you 4 shot mobs with your axe

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in that time it took you to land 4 heavy hits

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it takes me to left click 6-7 mobs

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if not more

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  • i see insta result
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where mobs die

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you just shove them a bit

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  • you can never be too sure you'll hit the same group
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thus

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Axe >

ornate hamlet
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I'll try both of your suggestions when I can thank you.

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I like the control offered by the surge staff with the suppress effect but I dislike the never having to aim component of the gameplay. Is there another option? I've found that my runs go much smoother with map control from surge.

vagrant cedar
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Purge staff

tawdry shell
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What is force sword good for

hot zephyr
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Purge or Gun are also very good. A lot of people don't like the idea of gun psyker but it can be really good if you understand how to play it well

tawdry shell
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what exactly does the shove for force sword do

vocal iron
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force push

tawdry shell
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it gets me some peril and does some damage

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instead of a normal push it consumes peril

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that's it?

vocal iron
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you have to hold it to do the animation afterwards

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that pushes them

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its 2 part

tawdry shell
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OH

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SHIT

ornate hamlet
tawdry shell
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I HAVE BEEN USING IT WRONG

vocal iron
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yeah the little baby grasp is just the first half

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i was like damn this sucks till i figured it out

tawdry shell
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yeah

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same

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that sword feels so bad to use

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i'd much rather BB than use the charged attack

vocal iron
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i think the only thing is has going that alot of people like is the deflector blessing

ornate hamlet
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I like it

cyan notch
tawdry shell
vocal iron
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makes angry men do funny dance

tawdry shell
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but man its horrible at clearing hordes

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I am running this atm

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its ok

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doesn't really do much

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I like my DS more

cyan notch
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slaughterer and shred

vagrant cedar
cyan notch
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ur not supposed to be using it in a horde

tawdry shell
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mt blessing is kinda for horde

vocal iron
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dont mind the terrible dmg but thats the blessing

tawdry shell
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still haven't found a deflector

light citrus
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Voidstrike vs Purgatus

ornate hamlet
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Also you can dodge while it's stuck in though yes I agree that should be changed to a contact stun and not a channeled one

vocal iron
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yeah peddler and melk love selling dogshit to psykers

light citrus
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my second Deflector

tawdry shell
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pretty sure my blessing would be good on a horde clear sword

toxic mountain
vocal iron
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void fun

light citrus
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Bleeding build Psyker work ?

steel flame
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I....guess?

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Sure why not

tawdry shell
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I have this

vocal iron
tawdry shell
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stats are wonderful

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what does impact do

light citrus
steel flame
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Isn't that stagger?

vocal iron
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i think so

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i think its the stat that determines how strong the stagger is?

light citrus
vocal iron
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cuz i can kinda slap ragers around with that

steel flame
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Dunno why they don't just say stagger. They really need to standardize all their descriptions and stuff

tawdry shell
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I have no clue what the keywords say

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wtf is rending supposed to mean

light citrus
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This one

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no one use Trauma?

hot zephyr
# ornate hamlet I assume recon lasgun with kinetic flayer?

Autoguns work better imo, they have more damage. You don't wanna try and min max KF because it only triggers every 15s, you want a gun that compliments your melee weapon. If you plan to melee hordes and BB elites for example, then you want a gun that can take out specialists. I personally like the mk8 graia and mkv columbus because I like the full auto mag dump as a way to deal big burst damage to an important target that doesn't require a charge like BB

glad cliff
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Trauma too slow and weak

light citrus
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The cd of flayer not worth to use

steel flame
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Tha wah?

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Huh

steel flame
steel flame
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And I wanna ride around on a warp unicorn with my beloved

light citrus
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Gun build

hot zephyr
# ornate hamlet I want a bolter

The mg12 kestral is similar if you can find a well rolled one. Not as much damage as a bolter but a similar playstyle and you'll hit the breakpoint with it required to one shot a lot of trash mobs

hot zephyr
light citrus
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4 stack Vs 6Stack

round jay
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Depends on your build

cyan notch
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new stonks record for me

vagrant cedar
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look at that

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took you what, 40-50minutes

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and now you earned like 1/3 of a crafting roll

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2 more and you can spin the wheel

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woop woop

cyan notch
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nah just 30mins

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40mins is really really rare

hot zephyr
# light citrus

I heavily dislike this build. The only way to build/maintain your warp charges is via BB. If it works for you then whatever, but this wouldn't work for me.

hot zephyr
# light citrus

This is better since you can maintain a stack, but you'll struggle to regain toughness since only your BB killing blows will trigger warp absorb

jade geode
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I have found that the key to enjoying Psyker is just saying fk warp charges, or using a build that passively generates them for you, and not worrying about it.

hot zephyr
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I personally use 122133 as my gun psyker build

jade geode
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I seriously doubt that a couple % more or less damage is going to seriously impact your gameplay either way, but sitting there stubbornly BBing single targetrs while your group is getting swarmed is definitely going to have an effect >~>

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And yes, I have seen Psykers do this, and it makes me grind my teeth.

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Or trying to BB targets that 1-2 Vets are lighting up

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Or BBing a horde

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Just because they're fking OBSESSED with keeping their stacks.

hot zephyr
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Idea is that BB and KB use will build your stacks and KF will maintain them. You'll be constantly triggering Warp Essence to replenish your toughness every 15s when KF triggers a BB, and you'll be replenishing your KB (and teams) cool downs with Aura.

light citrus
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DPS : Voidstrike VS Purgatus

jade geode
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Purg wins in raw damage, but Void is slightly more versitle bc of it's range.

random wolf
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Voidstrike for long ranged stagger and kills. Also not needing to stay out in the open.

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You can peek in/ out of cover with Voidstrike

jade geode
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^

random wolf
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Also the size of the projectile is huge

hot zephyr
light citrus
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CC both can be done no worrie

pale crescent
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Does anyone run any of the guns for their psyker?

vagrant cedar
jade geode
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I have a max level and well-geared Vet, if I wanna shooty, I play Vet πŸ˜›

hot zephyr
light citrus
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I hate Vet kill my BBing target

hot zephyr
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Sometimes doing nothing but maintaining situational awareness while your vet and zealot level the place is all you need to do

vagrant cedar
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idk what kind of parties you got that you only have to deal with elites

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but i'm jelly af

jade geode
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Eh. I've said it before. Psyker is the best class at versatility and filling a need on the fly, IMO.

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They may not be the best at any one thing, but they're great at filling gaps in a party, or taking over a role if someone is preoccupied or downed, etc.

vagrant cedar
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true that

jade geode
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You've got CC with your ult, horde clear with most staves, FS+Deflector trait is a discount slab shield.

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BB for elites or ranged shooters in a pinch; again, not the best option, but an option nonetheless.

hot zephyr
jade geode
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For example, you can take purgatus staff, and still have an option against that sniper/gunner 30M away.
Zealot takes a flamer and they're fked waiting for someone else to kill that same special/elite.

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Ogryn can take slab shield and have def against shooters, but slab shield is crap against single target.
Psyker can take FS w Deflector and have a panic option against ranged, and still have the special attack for ragers/maulers/etc.

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Psykers are the kings of versatility.

vagrant cedar
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PREACH

jade geode
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πŸ™‚

hot zephyr
#

A special trick we can use too is with BB. You can hold left click and look at an area and determine if there are any enemies there. It's not perfect cus you need line of sight but it's a good little scouting trick when the enemy gets surpressed and takes cover

vagrant cedar
#

i feel like that's lv5 psyker knowledge

jade geode
#

Also, big tip: Tired of Vet's shooting your BB target?
Pre-charge it with Right-Click and then just delete someone. πŸ˜‰

vagrant cedar
#

but even then sometimes you won't be able to tag enemies

#

cause they don't peek

#

only tags those who peek a boo

hot zephyr
#

Or at least that I've seen

jade geode
#

You can even pre-charge behind cover, dodge out, snap off a left click to BB someone, and dodge back into cover without taking ranged fore.

hot zephyr
vagrant cedar
#

i mean, gamesense is a struggle to people in this game, i've seen zealots charge into 15-20 shooters on the first group of enemies in damnation, and i just watch them get destroyed and leave the game

light citrus
#

Battery VS Flayer

vagrant cedar
pale crescent
#

We exist to pop hounds, muties and bursters, trappers which imo are the least fun in the game

jade geode
#

I honestly think taht most people that think Psyker is weak to other classes, just haven't taken the time to learn their strengths.
Other classes strengths are obvious, and you can lean on them easily.
Psyker takes some thought and some getting used to before it really shines.

jade geode
light citrus
#

4 stack Vs 6 Stack

hot zephyr
jade geode
#

More uptime on 2-4 stacks beats the hell out of working your way up to 6, painfully slowly, only for the engagement to end right as you cap out, and the stacks to drop off before the next time you fight.

pale crescent
#

I struggle to get to 4 sometimes

vagrant cedar
#

he's only strong in first 3 diffs

#

it takes 3 BBs to pop a hound

jade geode
vagrant cedar
#

2 to pop a bomber

#

his op drops alot in diff 4 and 5

jade geode
#

Trust me, I'm no newb playing at low levels ;P

vagrant cedar
jade geode
#

BB does drop off, you're correct, and it could probably use a slight buff there, but the rest of the class is still very strong. BB isn't your only tool.

pale crescent
#

Sadly I think I’m going to finish my last 5 levels of psyker then level Ogryn and move to VT2 until some serious work gets done

jade geode
light citrus
#

RNG too much

pale crescent
#

The Emperor won’t stop giving me Shredder auto pistols on every single character I’ve played

jade geode
#

Welp, back to my studies. GL out there, rejects.

pale crescent
jade geode
#

May The Emperor protect.

light citrus
#

Emperor give me guns and shop too

vagrant cedar
tacit cargo
vagrant cedar
#

nope

#

takes 2

#

or 1 and some bit of damage

pale crescent
#

I’m not an addict I swear. But I have considered buying a steam deck just to check shops

fringe remnant
vagrant cedar
#

you can't do 1.4k dmg with a BB

light citrus
#

bb IS 1000 dmg

pale crescent
tacit cargo
#

I'm hopping into the pykhanium to check that, not saying youre lying but ive experienced differently

cyan notch
#

bb 1 shots on damnation:
gunners
shotgunners
bombers
trappers
snipers

vagrant cedar
#

feel free to dude

orchid nest
#

yeah bombers are 1, that health chart is wrong

light citrus
#

Use force sword

vagrant cedar
#

there's two types of bombers

#

kamikadze ones

hot zephyr
vagrant cedar
#

and those who throw a nade

#

1 pop = the nade ones

silent trout
#

one is a burster and one is a bomber

vagrant cedar
#

kamikadze ones = 2 pops

tacit cargo
#

those are bursters

cyan notch
#

those arent bombers

pale crescent
#

Isn’t there also an issue where training grounds Doesn’t = actual in game enemy damage, or is that just rumor?

tacit cargo
#

they take two yeah

vagrant cedar
#

yes i meant those ones

tacit cargo
#

then youre right

#

but you dont need to kill em on rnage

#

just push em

#

and dodge back

vagrant cedar
#

see i tried that

tacit cargo
#

or let your vet handle it

vagrant cedar
#

half the time you still get hit from aoe

tacit cargo
#

its kinda hard with the force sword

#

and you need the right timing

hot zephyr
#

Oh yeah. Burster you def can't BB. I tend to just shoot em at range when I hear the tick prompts

tacit cargo
#

but its the most reliable method

vagrant cedar
#

you use your team to take the damage

#

and you stay in the back

#

it's a team game, it's their job

#

i aint taking that chance

hot zephyr
vagrant cedar
#

pretend you innocent

#

😏

tacit cargo
#

you dont always get the option for that sadly, but yeah i'd rather my zealot or vet handle them then me

#

Btw did anyone drop a force sword with bloodthirsty yet?

orchid nest
#

yeah someone had a video of it

tacit cargo
#

i hope we get to switch blessings later

#

i got a pretty nutty sword, but the blessings are not really BIS

#

the rest is aight tho

orchid nest
#

I would like to try a slaughterer and bloodthirsty sword but for just one offensive blessing I'd rather have slaughterer

tacit cargo
#

I want deflector on that for sure

hot zephyr
#

I've literally never seen anything with Slaughterer on it so far

#

I'd kill for savage sweep on my chainsword tho

#

So much cleave

tacit cargo
#

idk i dislike force sword melee generally, so i mainly use my sword for small groups, elites and specials in melee

#

idk how much mileage slaughterer would give on a weapon thats bad at killing groups

stuck basalt
#

drawing force sword animation take forever.

tacit cargo
#

I've got other decent melee weapons but i always come back

#

the special is just so strong

orchid nest
#

thats kind of the thing, it only feels useable on groups with slaughterer to the point that I won't use it without it

tacit cargo
#

fair neough i can see that

#

with a decent roll on the blessing

#

idk i'd like somewhat more effective animation rotation on the sword, the combos dont feel that good compared to other weapons

fringe remnant
#

yeah the light hits feel like a slap with a wet fish

orchid nest
#

the second light needs to be another diagonal coming from the other direction

fringe remnant
#

I've been trying out psykenetics wrath, and i think it can be good with the right force sword

tacit cargo
#

this feels a lot more usable for hordes for example, though the damage is comparatively lackluster it has very good stagger for control

fringe remnant
#

on a force sword with a max damage roll, the force sword feat takes your uncharged heavy attack over 300 damage, which is the breakpoint required to one hit kill poxwalkers on damnation

orchid nest
#

I have a t2 slaughterer and with infested roll on it and some combo of warp charges/the talent it will one shot damnation poxwalkers with a light attack to the head. so with a t4 one should be a lot easier/less investment to do it

tacit cargo
tacit cargo
cyan notch
#

i think hes talking about uncharged as in not special activated

tacit cargo
#

ah ok

fringe remnant
#

yes

tacit cargo
#

fair

cyan notch
#

but some weapons do have charge states in vt2

orchid nest
tacit cargo
#

mb

#

misread

inland sand
#

Anyone else noticed the patch change to the force sword doesnt seem to be implemented

orchid nest
#

if you mean the aoe thing everyone was excited about it was just supposed to be a vfx change and they quietly moved it to the vfx section of the patch notes and changed the wording

fringe remnant
low fossil
#

which force staff is the good one again?

#

my psyker is nearing level 30 so i need to figure which one to look for

#

i've basically just been meleeing every mission because Antax My Beloved

light citrus
#

What build you looking for

low fossil
#

honestly the only reason i rolled a psyker is because of antax's push attack+near infinite blocking from peril deflection, and that has been working REALLY REALLY well

#

so i guess something that kills shit at ranged very well since i'm fine with hoards?

fringe remnant
#

well that rules out the two most popular staves

#

you'll be wanting a void then

light citrus
#

Brain Burst will you want to maintain

echo parrot
#

What

random wolf
orchid nest
#

surge/purg/void are all good, will just be about playstyle and what role you want to fill

shut thorn
#

Someone said void so I woke up

random wolf
#

Yeh. General Purpose included.

random wolf
shut thorn
random wolf
#

You could look up images posted by you in this channel tho

light citrus
#

Purgatus

echo parrot
#

I cant start the game because some of us have to go to an office

supple skiff
#

void if you dont want to rely on everyone else to get gunner packs off you

light citrus
#

if you melee focus, Purgatus

hot zephyr
shut thorn
#

Idk I don't usually post the weps I use

echo parrot
#

Plus ive been rolling on my alt psyker

low fossil
#

surge is the lightning one?

random wolf
#

Yes.

echo parrot
#

Yes

shut thorn
#

There's this image but that's just stuff I want to rip blessings off of

shut thorn
supple skiff
#

watch they dont drop crafting that precludes the user of previously attained gear in its systems

echo parrot
#

That void arouses me

shut thorn
#

I don't think u can mess with both blessings

random wolf
shut thorn
#

Terrifying on staves is honestly a joke

low fossil
#

what's the difference between void and surge for killing a gun line (of actual elite heavy gunners, i mean)

shut thorn
random wolf
supple skiff
#

I was refering to scab and dreg ranged mobs

shut thorn
#

Unless you actually use the lmb on surge

random wolf
#

Void is more precise

low fossil
#

ah

shut thorn
#

Which surge users rarely use

low fossil
#

the left click seems to be the same on all staves?

shut thorn
#

no

echo parrot
light citrus
#

no

supple skiff
#

Ill be honest, ive seen what CC surge is capable of, and ive tried to emulate it with the push block on FS and the results have been decent

shut thorn
#

it's hitscan on the plasma gun (staff)

#

:)

light citrus
#

Melee focus go for purg

shut thorn
orchid nest
#

surge has the best "normal" left click though besides the unique purg one since it crits a lot

fringe remnant
shut thorn
#

It's really frustrating to watch a surge main just spam uncharged lightning at poxwalkers

supple skiff
#

wait, surge's lmb is different?

orchid nest
shut thorn
supple skiff
#

better than void and trauma?

shut thorn
#

better than void iirc

supple skiff
#

weird

shut thorn
#

trauma better tho iirc

low fossil
#

anything in melee with me, i delete with my axe

shut thorn
#

surge's primary

#

has insanely high

#

crit chance

#

w/ a 380 roll

low fossil
#

ragers, maulers

#

crushers

#

idc

shut thorn
#

you'll get around 20-30% crit

low fossil
#

i just want a staff that kills shit that's far from me if i need it

supple skiff
#

I really dont like trying to aim with lmb on most staves

shut thorn
orchid nest
supple skiff
#

shit feels bad

fringe remnant
low fossil
#

i see

#

fair enough then

light citrus
#

BB

shut thorn
echo parrot
low fossil
fringe remnant
shut thorn
supple skiff
#

if you ult with barrage talent before hand BB feels and perfoms well enough

shut thorn
#

😎

light citrus
#

Staff For CC , Gun for killing

shut thorn
#

Maybe if it was a las pistol, it'd be cool

supple skiff
#

I do that for bulwarks

echo parrot
orchid nest
#

surge will legit be very good against gunners if they fix dreg suppression because you have scabs covered already and it does good dmg and has good suppression on left click

fringe remnant
shut thorn
low fossil
#

revolver..i haven't

shut thorn
echo parrot
ebon jolt
#

Surge still does garbage damage no matter how high crit chance gets πŸ˜‘

low fossil
#

laspistols are cool

#

wym rebind swap

shut thorn
supple skiff
#

^ love to see it

ebon jolt
#

I thought getting a 380 surge staff would help but I still feel like I’m hitting things with a wet noodle.

low fossil
#

i'm playing psyker because of the increased stamina regen and infinite block meaning antax push attacks are Ludicrous

#

so i just dunno what to do for my gun slot

shut thorn
echo parrot
shut thorn
#

and use the lmb

#

for everything else

#

on it

#

or more preferably

#

stun - > fs

echo parrot
#

antax makes me fall asleep

supple skiff
#

^

fringe remnant
shut thorn
#

i dont like using antax

#

its so boring

supple skiff
#

antax is big sleep

shut thorn
#

and ive gotten used to weapon swap attacks for force sword

worthy pulsar
#

Hello! I need some tips if you have, how to do the going out with a bang penance for Psyker ?

shut thorn
#

which look a lot more aesthetically pleasing

orchid nest
low fossil
#

holy fuck that laspistol clip lmao

worthy pulsar
shut thorn
fringe remnant
worthy pulsar
worthy pulsar
fringe remnant
shut thorn
#

if your peril is at 100%, doing the special attack charge thing on force sword instantly initiates explosion

silver root
#

how do you do that fast switch?

shut thorn
#

then just left click and swap quickly

#

and repeat that

cyan notch
#

ty fatshark very cool

shut thorn
#

alternatively if you worry about breaking your mouse, make a macro

#

the block one isn't feasible w/o a macro

echo parrot
shut thorn
#

Someone here could probably do it, I can't

silver root
shut thorn
#

Doing it while moving becomes awkward

silver root
#

gotcha ty sah

worthy pulsar
shut thorn
#

I've also rebound quell to c for quell cancel on void staff

#

basically thumb does the animation cancels :)

shut thorn
#

Well you'll have good weps for when gunslinger/biomancer/whatever comes out

echo parrot
jovial frigate
#

emperor gave me this. it rolled crit in 1 try

#

whats consensus on slaughterer

#

mr milk wants to sell me this

ornate hamlet
#

is there a short guide somewhere what each staff does?

patent ledge
#

purgatos = unli flamer surge = stun gun trauma = aoe blast

#

voidstrike = rocket launcher

patent hatch
# ornate hamlet is there a short guide somewhere what each staff does?

Hey folks,

It's me, your friendly neighbourhood Robot. I am a Creator and Partner for Warhammer 40,000: DarkTide and FatsharkAB.

Today I made a vid showing every Force Staff currently in the game.
In terms of ranking them, I choose to divide them this way:
Viable for Heresy and Above (for the average player) - Surge & Voidstrike
Non-Viable fo...

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jovial frigate
#

jesus christ those little youtuber reacts thumbnails are getting bad

patent hatch
#

This guy has pretty good Psyker content tbh

#

One of the best ones on YT

#

Milk and cookies TV is solid to

ornate hamlet
jovial frigate
#

im sure its good but it also doesnt make him looking like a goomba any better

#

all it's missing is the hat

ornate hamlet
frigid marten
#

predatory thumbnail.

patent ledge
#

i usually skip them on youtube until there's nothing else if im looking for something specific

#

don't wanna have my recommended tab be full of rainbow text and funny faces x_x

brave vale
#

i mean this has to be good right

echo parrot
#

No matter what it is

patent ledge
#

tru

brave vale
#

upgrade that shit?

#

to orange?

patent ledge
#

try it out first

#

see if you like to use it

#

otherwise, use your mats on stuff you use constantly

#

or like using

fringe remnant
echo parrot
#

Trauma is kinda meh for most and also a bit broken atm, so I would recommend trying it out first.

#

Just dont scrap it

#

Always buy a 380, always keep a 380

patent ledge
#

i heard the damage was bugged but idk if it got fixed

glacial abyss
#

yes what the rabbit said

patent ledge
#

i just wish i could convert my dia for plasteel

ebon jolt
patent ledge
#

kinda like vt2 does with green dust

glacial abyss
#

The green crack

supple skiff
#

^fs quell be like

echo parrot
#

Thats how I feel with void quell on weakspot kill

#

I really hope I get one of those on my new Psyker

patent ledge
#

i have yet found a deflector blessing tposegryn

supple skiff
#

in a game with 3 void users and a plasma vet, shits jokes

left mirage
#

i think this is about as close as im getting to a flamer on psyker yeah?

echo parrot
#

I got a deflector while leveling, been using it ever since

left mirage
#

fuckin 50% charge time

echo parrot
#

Its a lifesavor when I am only level 20 yet pushing heresy/damnation (low intensity) missions

patent ledge
#

i had one when i was leveling but i junked it before i knew i could transfer it 😒

whole wharf
#

Thoughts?

#

Buy or nah?

left mirage
#

im in the "trauma staff gives me trauma" gang so id say no

patent ledge
#

save your weekly currency i'd say

left mirage
#

still have a 380 waiting if when it gets buffed

echo parrot
#

Not unless its a 370+

patent ledge
#

true

#

it's a pain enough to get the currency, best to use it on high base rolls

whole wharf
#

Fair

echo parrot
#

I have not gotten a single 380

#

But I have multiple 379s

runic gate
#

Why is this still a THING!? I'm out of Rerolls

echo parrot
#

Better start collecting scrips

supple skiff
#

3 loner psykers with voids and a vet with a plasma gun. Was quite an experience lol

runic gate
echo parrot
runic gate
#

When it does pop, it will be a T5 with grims.

violet thorn
#

Mfw people rage quitting on sedition

echo parrot
runic gate
violet thorn
#

Anything pre malice is a meme

#

And this was reduced sedition

supple skiff
#

LOL

violet thorn
#

Like bruh 2 people left

echo parrot
#

I honestly dont understand people leaving games before a wipe.

violet thorn
#

It wasn’t even a wipe

violet thorn
#

It was like the last 5 minutes of a smelting

supple skiff
#

well you can on occasion cheese a wipe and rejoin when everyone is down

echo parrot
#
  1. Theres always a chance you somehow recover.

  2. If you wipe, you at least something as opposed to getting nothing for leaving.

violet thorn
#

And we were fine

flint turtle
#

Let the children

#

Be

violet thorn
#

No

#

They goin learn today

#

On jah

echo parrot
old crystal
#

I need to figure out how to stay alive as a psyker. I played my first 50 hours of this game as an Ogryn and it's tainted my play style. Grimoires are fucking impossible for me in this class.

echo parrot
cyan notch
echo parrot
#

Dodging is overpowered

violet thorn
#

@echo parrot I have the Emperor and Anime on my side

#

I’ll make them learn

echo parrot
violet thorn
#

I butchered that quote

#

So much

vagrant cedar
#

all waifus judging you right now from the 2D world

violet thorn
#

I named my seer β€œMugabe” the waifus arent the only ones judging me at this point

viscid brook
#

am i supposed to buy the higher rated one?

cyan notch
#

yea i would its much better

vagrant cedar
violet thorn
#

It’s dependent on stat distribution and skills/blessings

#

generally higher rating is better but that is now always true

cyan notch
#

slaughterer + maniac gonna do way more than unstable power and 8% weak spot

violet thorn
#

Think of it as ratings as more point to play with but those points can still be all over the place

cyan notch
#

plus you get more mobility

violet thorn
#

You can have horrible 500+ weapons

echo parrot
viscid brook
#

i see thanks

#

it has a lower warp resistance so i wasnt sure if it was better

#

whats mobility do?

echo parrot
#

Affect your dodge distance and movement speed

#

I would grab it honestly

vagrant cedar
#

press V

viscid brook
#

and just upgrade that? or wait til something to pop up to upgrade?

vagrant cedar
#

and hover over the stats

viscid brook
#

oh never done that before lol

hoary shadow
#

trash or good ?

echo parrot
#

I wouldnt start upgrading until you get a 360+, simply so that you dont empty your plastic before you get one.

viscid brook
#

those upgrade thigns are expensive im not sure when to use them

#

okay thanks

teal cloud
#

save your mats for the really good base rolls

echo parrot
teal cloud
#

you'll probably have enough dockets to get multiple good base ones by the time you get enough mats to upgrade one, if you are checking the shop anyway lol

runic gate
viscid brook
#

bought it thanks a bunch

echo parrot
#

If you dont already have a deflection, you should get it

wet belfry
#

Id say its good. Deflection is really rare.

runic gate
wet belfry
#

It will be easier once the crafting system is properly implented

runic gate
#

People tunnel FS+Delfection WAY too hard.

echo parrot
vagrant cedar
viscid brook
#

btw this is what im using

echo parrot
#

Not bad

viscid brook
#

do i wait for a higher rated void and upgrade that? im still having trouble with level 4 missions

runic gate
#

or + VS/Surge all day long.

wet belfry
#

I like the versatility of deflector in being able to revive players or block gunners for the team.

wet belfry
#

But other melee options are defintely viable.

cyan notch
runic gate
#

I can't wait to be able to reroll Brutal Moment onto my 500 Rated Mk5.

echo parrot
viscid brook
#

will this be better after i can upgrade?

echo parrot
#

That beind said, check everything in the shop in detail, even the greys. You can at times find 360+ greys.

viscid brook
#

that or this

echo parrot
#

The first one

#

Hands down

hot zephyr
echo parrot
#

Quell on weak spot kill is amazing on void

#

Plus its 369

#

So its worth upgrading

viscid brook
#

sweeet

viscid brook
runic gate
echo parrot
viscid brook
runic gate
#

Line up headshots on the VS with Transfer Peril you will rarely have to do any quelling at all when you're swarmed.

echo parrot
#

If you are newer it is understandable, I would not have been able to pull it off on my first psyker, Its only on my second one that I am able to pull it off after 280+ hours.

viscid brook
#

oh ok that sounds op will try out

#

ah so its just skill based lol

#

u can do level 4 with bots ?

echo parrot
#

I dont think anyone can simply because they will autofill in the middle of the game

viscid brook
#

really i had bots whole game and failed

echo parrot
#

Bad luck then.

jade imp
#

New to Psy, like the flame staff and the lightning one, which is best, what blessings?

echo parrot
#

Keep in mind if you start up fresh instances of missions that are about to run out, there is a good chance you will be stuck with bots for most of the time.

cyan notch
echo parrot
#

Hard for people to queue for a mission that doesnt exist anymore

viscid brook
#

ya game pass

echo parrot
cyan notch
#

yea gamepass population is pretty low so very common to have bot games

#

gotta wait for fatshark to add crossplay

viscid brook
#

oh wow relaly lol

cyan notch
#

yea most people have it on steam

supple skiff
echo parrot
#

Not surprising either. Not many people take part in PC game pass for multiplayer games

#

Because everyone already uses steam

viscid brook
#

lol my friend showed me how to get it for the cheap

supple skiff
#

yeah, I was going to go gamepass until I heard that cross play and cross save weren't a thing

viscid brook
#

rip me

#

do i just keep refining to get warp transfer?

cyan notch
#

no

#

thats a blessing

#

u cant do that

hot yew
supple skiff
#

nah its just a visual bug lol

viscid brook
#

should i use the 424 over the 471 for now, even though i havent upgraded?

echo parrot
#

Yes

runic gate
viscid brook
runic gate
supple skiff
#

visual bug, wasnt being serious

runic gate
#

If you have issues with peril, then use the 424.

viscid brook
#

ok and ill keep look out for warp transfer blessing

echo parrot
#

Charge rate though

shut thorn
#

It's just a bigger number

#

base rating is what matters

#

your blue is better

echo parrot
#

Yes go with blue

runic gate
#

BFG is right sorry I didn't even look at base lol, yeah use the blue.

viscid brook
#

ah i see base rating thansk going with blue

runic gate
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Base stat is Key unless you have some goated blessing

shut thorn
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I mean even if the modifiers were bad for the blue I'd still use it solely due to quell peril

runic gate
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Sometimes the best base stat weps are the greys in the shop, then upgrade em

viscid brook
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ok doke

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thanks for all the tips ❀️

vagrant cedar
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don't use the blue

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use axe

shut thorn
runic gate
shut thorn
runic gate
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I didn't click the pic to see base stats lol. I often assume people know base stats is key.

vagrant cedar
shut thorn
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playing antax mk v is like playing with one of those spinny toys from the 2000s, it gets boring insanely fast

granite knoll
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Anyone know how to get going out with a bang? must be the hardest penance in the game

shut thorn
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Easiest way is to run veteran with camo and a plasma gun

runic gate
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Antax Mk 5 is still BIS melee wep as far as being well rounded. Being able to destory hordes and cc elites with the stagger is incredible.

shut thorn
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overheat the plasma gun intentionally and just walk next to gunners

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practical way would be to use force sword weapon swap charging to initiate explosion

granite knoll
viscid brook
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are they going to add crossplay?

runic gate
shut thorn
cyan notch
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doesnt peril explosion do more

shut thorn
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it's the same thing

runic gate
inland sand
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i legit do not get stuff above 400 on my Psyker

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I think it's because I still have a bunch of sub 300 staves on them

shut thorn
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Also rarities apparently matter more

inland sand
inland sand
runic gate
shut thorn
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I'll go check now ig

inland sand
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it would just be nice if my psyker got the same rolls as my other 3

vagrant cedar
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you gotta look at both

granite knoll
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the rest of the psyker penances are easy compared to the suicide one

vagrant cedar
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base stats alone is shit if your perks/talents are shit

granite knoll
shut thorn
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difficulty on psyker: Pick n mix > going out w a bang > malleus (need to pass a speech check on ogryn) > anything else

mental rock
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I would also say pick n mix is the hardest one without a group

cyan notch
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i dont think its that hard

copper raft
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nah pick n mix isnt so bad

cyan notch
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on heresy and up theres so many gunners and shotgunners

shut thorn
mental rock
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the thing is, there is always a vet there to interrupt your channels

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lol

shut thorn
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Vets shooting at blue glow is the most annoying shit in this game

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They're literally monkey brained

vagrant cedar
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monkeys are smart tho

shut thorn
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crows are generally smarter

runic gate
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Dolphin, Monkey, or Crow, who wins intellect?

ornate hamlet
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I started as psyker and STILL do that sometimes on my veteran just because everything about veteran is "if it glows blast it"

next pine
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Question, how does surge work with the trauma staff?

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is it only on the primary fire?