psyker-class

[tropic pollen]

i believe in you, i'm on that same grind

[cyan notch]

pay attention to get crafting finished and change the stupid shop camping

[shut thorn]

Open game, look at armory, look at melk, close game

[glacial abyss]

hear the “ughghfhgh” noise when u load in the morningstar

then close game after I load

I fucking hate that noise

[shut thorn]

no lol

[glacial abyss]

what is that noise I hate it who added it

[copper raft]

Wtf thats cursed

[steel egret]

Run to see combat swords in store.

[shut thorn]

theres the sound of a train/airplane toilet flushing in the background if u open armory

i hate it

[glacial abyss]

literally drives me insane from all of the weird noises

[jovial quail]

@copper raft Yeah... I can do 25 games a day but fk me it's a pain lol. But holiday vacation is up and got a $100 bet with irl friend that I can get it before end of year

[glacial abyss]

also some of the music just bothers me

[copper raft]

Ahahahaha i have to listen to that

[shut thorn]

im ffine with it but

[cyan notch]

turn em off

[shut thorn]

the loading screen music

is getting on my nerves

cuz of how long the loading screens are

[glacial abyss]

It’s the same fucking music over and over again it’s annoying I hate loading screen music

[shut thorn]

and how my brain associates it with getting disconnectd

everytime i get disconnected I see that fucking screen

[glacial abyss]

I need more tracks bro and the loading screen music is ass

[shut thorn]

The art is great, the music is good but my god the conditions in which I see them are always bad

[glacial abyss]

it literally pisses me off

just give me like 3 songs bro

[shut thorn]

its cuz ur brain has associated it with disconnects

🙃

[cyan notch]

mission loading or the one with helpful encouragement quotes

[shut thorn]

the art one not the valkyrie

[glacial abyss]

I hate the music in this game like when I load up the game I feel like I’m entering the dystopia

[copper raft]

Dude i fucking love that noise

[glacial abyss]

and I just alt f4

[cyan notch]

ah yes the same one png you see 10 million times

[glacial abyss]

also that I need more pngs

[copper raft]

The failed to connect track

[glacial abyss]

not the same fucking png

[shut thorn]

yeah I don't like seeing it because the only times I see it is when the game bugs out mid mission

And then u can spam spacebar to see obvious stuff

you can take cover by going behind an object

you die when your health reaches 0

you can aim by moving your mouse or controller sticks

[copper raft]

Useful gameplay tips like, being vengeance, ignorance is good.

[shut thorn]

those too

lol

[glacial abyss]

emma u mean the “there is no peace among the stars”

[cyan notch]

its not even tips its just dumb quotes

[glacial abyss]

there ain’t no gameplay tips

[hot field]

imagine when you crash mid mission, rejoin than proceed to crash again

[glacial abyss]

it’s just quotes emma

[shut thorn]

there are

very few

[glacial abyss]

no!

[copper raft]

wait there are?.

[shut thorn]

something about accetran recon blah blah

is the one

i see the most

[glacial abyss]

emma! What are you talking about!

[shut thorn]

my probably 50hours of spamming space on loading screen

[copper raft]

i do like it but some more diversity wouldnt hurt

[eager verge]

I wish 🤣

[glacial abyss]

wtf!!!???????? emma gone crazy

[cyan notch]

this game is something else

[steel egret]

They could add cash store ads.

[copper raft]

will we get a good psyker helm that doesnt make us bald

[glacial abyss]

no

[shut thorn]

yes

[steel egret]

No.

They all make us bald.

[shut thorn]

there is one that has a buncha screws

[copper raft]

Ahhhh

[shut thorn]

makes u look like weird punk people from 1990s

[copper raft]

Huh.. which one

[glacial abyss]

cool

I want to look like a supervillain

[shut thorn]

lemme get it, it was leaked everywhere anyw

[glacial abyss]

I need to look like a supervillain

[copper raft]

Oh from the leaks

[shut thorn]

still feel guilty getting the img but w/e

[steel egret]

Guilty over copying image?

[copper raft]

I like that one psyker outfit that looks like a coat or whatever from the leaks

[glacial abyss]

I like the one psyker outfit that isn’t released

[shut thorn]

become weird snail spike thing

[copper raft]

No camo, nothing too absurd

[shut thorn]

wait are those sparkplugs

[copper raft]

Yeah ok that helm is from that set im talking about

[steel egret]

I'm more interested of the gasmask one.

[glacial abyss]

I like the skull one

skull one is best I like the skull the skeleton

[shut thorn]

gasmask with wings?

[deft trench]

can the purgatus staff crit?

[steel egret]

Yes

[alpine portal]

yah, it gives an extra stack of soul blaze?

[kindred edge]

What perks/blessings should I be hoping for on a Surge staff?

[glacial abyss]

I don’t use purgatus I know surge does

[shut thorn]

You will need to wear this to do going out w a bang on vet soon

[glacial abyss]

HAHAHAHAHAGAAHHAHAA

[shut thorn]

hope I don't get banned for that

🙃

[glacial abyss]

“you go in there psyker just press the button it’s for the emperor. There’s tons of girls on terra”

[steel egret]

I think on forums they said there are other platforms to present them.

[alpine portal]

the crit one ( Warp nexus ) for sure

[shut thorn]

probably only one I might buy

[steel egret]

So would be weird to press on you here.

[glacial abyss]

I’m going to buy all

[shut thorn]

dude there's like 400 cosmetics

[glacial abyss]

I have 60k aquilas

[shut thorn]

how tf

[glacial abyss]

and I will get more as the time goes by

[shut thorn]

actually

how much is 60k

[steel egret]

Money

[shut thorn]

in real money

[pearl thicket]

$200ish

[glacial abyss]

not that much to be real

it sounds like a thousand but it’s not a lot

[alpine portal]

6k? or 60 k ?

[pearl thicket]

pretty sure 7k packs are $35

[glacial abyss]

60k just spam max

[shut thorn]

6 0

[alpine portal]

:0

[shut thorn]

just 6 of them

and a 0

[glacial abyss]

I love darktide needs more cosmetics

[alpine portal]

i have 200......

[ornate hamlet]

Which staff is best for damage?

[shut thorn]

las pistol

what kind of damage

if u want highest theoretical

[ornate hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/hmmm-thinking-batman-gif-14744673

[shut thorn]

its voidstaff

[glacial abyss]

Void if u just want to shred

[shut thorn]

if u want highest on avg

its purg

[glacial abyss]

if u want to be critical hit and let the warp gods decide pick surge

surge drip

[ornate hamlet]

Hard hitting, bursty damage.

[shut thorn]

if u want pure single target dps

[sage flower]

which is the better staff to consecrate?

[shut thorn]

equip las pistol

[ornate hamlet]

Been running a purg build doing support.

[spiral sparrow]

the top one lol

[shut thorn]

I wanna say top but god

Focused channeling sucks

[glacial abyss]

the blessing ass

for top

[steel egret]

Well you can swap it one day.

along with changing the perk.

[shut thorn]

issue is

[glacial abyss]

I would just hold onto whichever one u want

and don’t upgrade

[shut thorn]

warp flurry (when fixed) will be great

on surge

[glacial abyss]

wait for emperors blessing

[glacial abyss]

yes

[sage flower]

what's broken about it?

[shut thorn]

procs once only

no stack

[glacial abyss]

true I have a warp flurry staff

I just hold onto it lmao

it’s goated

[sage flower]

why am I continually surprised?

[glacial abyss]

mcflurry

[shut thorn]

low dopamine level in brain

[ornate hamlet]

If I go voidstrike for damage, what are the best blessings for it?

[shut thorn]

quell peril

and if u can get it

[glacial abyss]

how to increase dopamine levels the best way consistently: find a woman you enjoy spending time with

[shut thorn]

the blessing that fires 2 shots

forgot what it was

[ornate hamlet]

That’s a thing!?

[shut thorn]

other than that warp nexus ig?

[shut thorn]

yes

if u crit it fires 2 shots

[glacial abyss]

yes

the drip blessing

[ornate hamlet]

Whaaaaaaaa

[shut thorn]

surge

i think

it was called

[vagrant cedar]

and then that's it

it doesn't shoot anymore

[glacial abyss]

weird eyeball is speaking again! 👁

[vagrant cedar]

👀 hello there

[glacial abyss]

what the fuck!!!!!

[vagrant cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/chris-pratt-andy-dwyer-omg-shocked-face-meme-gif-25585329

[shut thorn]

darktide rn

[idle bay]

Hmm.... there was not "hot fixes" and yet i can't load into Morningstar 🙂 Great

[shut thorn]

you need the cold fixes

temp too high

[idle bay]

Extra cooling already on.

It was loading almost instantly in the morning...

And it's working again after restart 🙂

[echo parrot]

Ngl I like focused channeling as it lets me keep charging for a max ball to completely clear everything in front of me even if I get hit just once.

[night marten]

my take for purgatus as well

can make or break an entire engagement

[real fox]

hello, I'm still looking for 1 or 2 players to help me get a "going out with a bang" penance (kill 3 elites with a suicide explosion), there would just be tanking and gathering 3 ragers for example (we're already 2) thanks in advance...

[echo parrot]

Oh wait that is a surge staff

I prefer it on void not surge

[echo parrot]

Might want to try one of the lfg channels

That is one of the most annoying ones to try and get

[real fox]

yes but my english is littl in vocal x)

[keen pawn]

[alpine portal]

Id reroll that tox flamer in to experience

[keen pawn]

[shut thorn]

why

what

[ornate hamlet]

Does the toughness regen speed apply to feats that affect toughness as well?

[keen pawn]

i would imagine so

[jovial frigate]

toughness regen is useless because its bugged iirc

so basically that curio has 3 useless perks

[devout belfry]

👌🏻

[keen pawn]

have they officially announced this?

[jovial frigate]

im pretty sure i saw a commented bug report at some point. I'll see if i can find it in my history

[devout belfry]

They don't officially announce most of the broken mechanics.

Which is most of the mechanics.

Can't even get the hacking minigame working right lol

[keen pawn]

sometimes

[tender terrace]

dang deflector exists?

[copper raft]

This is a good one ty for linking it

[keen pawn]

uh?

[jovial frigate]

couldnt find the exact previous one i saw, but just a quick search on the forum shows an acknowledged toughness regeneration issue: https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/toughness-regeneration-speed-on-curio-bug/69379

Also to note, it only affects the delay at which your toughness starts to regen. so with 60%, you would start regenerating toughness in 1.2 sec rather than the standard 3 seconds

[shut thorn]

yes, it's why you use FS

[tender terrace]

it was more of a "havent seen this blessing yet" comment

[shut thorn]

a

well I got my only semi decent deflector at around 300hr

lol

[paper wagon]

I perfer any version of dueling on anything below damnation. But the amount of shooters with open maps on damnation make deflector a lot of value if you kinda... use it like orgryn shield/sparingly between staff stagger spam.

[jovial frigate]

this was the first thing i made when i hit 30 and it's the only FS i've gotten with semi-acceptable stats since

[vale nacelle]

If only unarmored applied to Poxers

[jovial frigate]

i could reroll it to whatever but i also dont use it much anymore as im messing around with blue/purple FS of diff stat allocations

[manic needle]

Thats the kind of force sword you save to extract the blessings later on

In a year or two when they finish the crafting system

[spare flax]

i would personally change that perk to extra stamina, though both are very viable perk options

[manic needle]

Who needs stamina when you have kinetic deflection?

[spare flax]

well it helps with running, blocking more shots, and the less peril you use for blocking the more you can use for killing

[tender terrace]

which perk you think? block eff?

to reroll

[ornate hamlet]

Peanut butter and jealous. Those are the 2 blessings I want.

[vestal finch]

Unless you really enjoy the quelling animation I'd say you should keep block efficiency on

[vagrant cedar]

FS is good for range block

no idea why would you wanna degrade that perk

otherwise you could have an axe

[clear linden]

im seeing dashes with some weapons with insane speed and distance while sliding how exactly does that work?

[vagrant cedar]

capped mobility

[clear linden]

thats it?

ive seen it happen when using heavy attacks

[fresh reef]

Hey does anyone know the full mission name of Enclavum Baross? Need it for a bug report

[covert valve]

Is this worth getting for pskyers?

[mental rock]

there used to be a bug where you could get insane distance with a heavy attack into dashslide

pretty sure it was patched though

[elfin roost]

Man, fatshark really does patch bugs

Just the ones that sound fun lol

[mental rock]

yup

there is a ledge dash tech tho

[elfin roost]

What is it?

[mental rock]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UDcRcQIsDc

[elfin roost]

Cant wait for em to patch that before flying hounds

[vestal finch]

I'm uninstalling. They ruined the Loner's funny line

He's no longer yelling at the subtitles

Or he is, I guess

but the whole dialogue is subtitled

[jovial frigate]

seeing as its not working at all currently, probably not

[deft trench]

currently rolling this, vs maniacs or unarmored?

[jovial frigate]

def have done this a couple times on accident over rails, havent thoughtmuch of it tho

[near wyvern]

+crit chance and you have the best perks you can get on purgatus

Crits apply double blaze stacks so it's a universal damage boost

[viscid forum]

Veteran here popping into say yall crazy.

[sage flower]

so warp nexus and crit chance are the best you can get on purgatus?

[echo parrot]

Thank you

[unkempt juniper]

r8

[viscid forum]

your welcome crazy psyker. Just dont blow up ya?

[echo parrot]

Not sure about stam but all the perks are bae

[alpine portal]

Why stam?

[shut oak]

It's one thing to be a gun psyker but the shredder pistol?

[high agate]

Did they save psyker yet

[dapper oasis]

Hey guys, Ogryn main here picking up Psyker as a secondary class and enjoying the playstyle a lot. I have a question about the Surge Force Staff, I can't seem to figure out how the spread of its effect works. Its clear the electrocute affects more enemies as you attack the same group multiple times, but it seems somewhat irregular to me. Can you help me out?

[teal kite]

Would it be op if a psyker could put a shield around themselves and/or another player. If done in both the peril rises faster than if it's done on one person

Shielded player get 50% all damage reduction

Without using block

[teal kite]

Looks like it picks the 5 nearest to you and it's damage is based on how long it was charged.

5 nearest in your vision cone so not behind you I don't think

[manic needle]

Against groups of enemies that surge staff isnt efficient at killing (unarmored, infested), you spam it if they need to be CC'd. It shouldn't target more enemies the more you use it, but spamming multiple attacks can keep a group of enemies much larger than 5 stunned.

If the enemies in question dont need to be CC'd, dont bother with surge and melee instead

[vale nacelle]

Most of the time you’ll be spamming minimum charge secondaries to keep things stunned up. Keep in mind that surge does more damage to flak/carapace as well.

I’ve found success spamming minimum charge secondaries, dumping peril with ult at 100%, and continuing to spam afterwards. Keeps things very safe for your front liners for an extended period of time while doing sizable damage to armored enemies caught in the mix.

[dapper oasis]

Thanks for the help guys, appreciate it 🍻

I've been finding success combining the force sword with the surge staff as it gives CC against enemies that need their guard opened up.

[vale nacelle]

Also, you can tag things with lightning that are behind cover and around the edge of walls/doorways.

Use this to your advantage vs packs of gunners.

[dapper oasis]

Like you said the spamming against groups is quite nice, you can stun large groups and stay safe.

[manic needle]

Try the Mk. 5 Combat Axe, the push/counterattack is very good horde clear

Also the passive quell is very nice

[dapper oasis]

I've seen the count of electrocuted/surge really rack up if you spam it. It starts to expand to more enemies than 5.

[hot zephyr]

Having a little trouble comparing these purg's, these are the best I've found so far
I feel like the warp resist being gimped is a big deal, but looking for opinions.

[manic needle]

reroll the perk on the left one imo

[ornate hamlet]

2nd one is better imo

[vale nacelle]

The duration of previous stuns will overlap with subsequent casts, but AFAIK the amount of targets chained to does not increase as you spam and is a static number.

[alpine portal]

how yall adding people on Game pass as friends

[alpine portal]

id take the first lol

warp resist is dump fpr purg

[vale nacelle]

Burn and cloud radius are far more important.

[alpine portal]

iM CRASHING IN SOCIAL TAB what the actual heck FS. im try ing to make friends

[manic needle]

Fatshark out here doing social commentary with their video games

[long wharf]

mistake #1 - thinking anybody wants to be friends with you

FartShart has 3 more days to release the rest of the crafting system

[alpine portal]

or we let loose the hounds?

[long wharf]

or we all go to reddit and complain more

I mean, that's going to happen anyways

[alpine portal]

not much of a threat...

[long wharf]

and FartShart knows it

[round jay]

Better, we get the Reddit army to destroy the steam review

[long wharf]

the management at FartShart doesn't feel compelled at all to live up to what they say they'll do

[round jay]

Not that useful be funny as hell

[alpine portal]

the previous mission tab never seems to work

[long wharf]

people may not like this, but aside from the highly polished combat and environments, Darktide pretty much matched Anthem's release

only Anthem didn't write "Coming Soon" on GUI components

[alpine portal]

idk if topbunkQQ is on here, but I tried to add you 😭

[manic needle]

Im holding out on the negative steam review in case they decide to make the next character classes/specializations paid DLC

[long wharf]

the steam reviews are already trending negatively

I'm not concerned that that will change

[worldly chasm]

peril block bugged or am i misunderstanding how its supposed to work?

[echo parrot]

What exactly makes you think it is bugged

Works fine for me

[worldly chasm]

If i'm low stamina and I block it breaks my block and I don't gain peril

[copper raft]

hm. Had the same problem.too

[simple junco]

Anthem was literally unplayable tho. I'd more or less compare this to No Man's Sky or even VT1's launch due to the lack of content. The polish is there, just not all of it is there.

[vestal finch]

If you're at 0 stam it just stuns you like it would normally

So try to always stay above

[worldly chasm]

Then its bugged? As peril is your stamina for blocking with that feat. Bugged or poor description

[vestal finch]

It works just fine as long as you have more than 0 stamina.

[manic needle]

Write a bug report on the Fatshark forums and they will either acknowledge it or say it's working as intended

Hell, someone may have already done that

[simple junco]

Better to send 2 and be safe than send 0 on a whim.

[copper raft]

Might be comparable to...total war warhammer 3 launch actually

[unique barn]

everything is broken all is doomed

Nowt fuckin matter

[simple junco]

For now. I'm still gonna play the shit out of this game, but this is a pretty good excuse to step away from it for the time being lol

[fallen sleet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1018684118877356044/1057754470345347183/video-161315816_456239958_58833ae3837fca8857.mp4

[copper raft]

We will run a pulse check in 6 montgs

[elfin roost]

It feels like most of malice has never touched the game before

[devout belfry]

It's my coop game to play with friends. Even if it's a steaming mess.

[simple junco]

I mean, most of the playerbase considers malice to be the game.

Same! This game connects me to old friends too. It's something else in terms of gameplay.

[elfin roost]

Unfortunate, considering 80% would have a better time complaining about stuff in sedition being too hard

[devout belfry]

I find damnation easier than malice for some reason. Something about the spawns or players I find lol

[elfin roost]

Definitely the players imo

[simple junco]

For pubs? Absolutely. I have more consistent T5 than T4, or even T3

[devout belfry]

Sorry meant heresy not malice lol

I find it hard to lose malice. Even after a new record triple team kill barrel dunk.

[elfin roost]

Its not common to lose but theres the certain bunches of players

I was basically playing true solo since they kept dying in the lowest of low intensity situations

[echo parrot]

https://tenor.com/view/benny-fallout-fallout-new-vegas-what-in-the-goddamn-confusion-gif-24924085

[devout belfry]

We usually don't run anything below 4 unless it's for weeklies. And if we do - don't stand next to a barrel.

[copper raft]

Lol

Fucking laugh my ass off when people fly off and die

[devout belfry]

Often we get stuck off the map
Running an invisible maze to find a kill box.

[elfin roost]

Pox bursters sending people off the map is hilarious

[devout belfry]

Pro gamer move. Push them into teammates.

[long wharf]

wrong, I put 200 hours into Anthem, it was very playable

it just had no end-game

extremely limited gear options

[mild tartan]

200 hours into Anthem? holy shit balls lol

[long wharf]

very little enemy variety

[simple junco]

You... What?

[long wharf]

a hub you had to run around in with little to do

... sounds familiar

[copper raft]

wat

[steep bridge]

So, playable, but utter dogwater

[long wharf]

and yet, flying around was amazing

the sound design was great

music was better than decent

[mild tartan]

Flying around was fun in that game, everything else was mindnumbingly boring

[long wharf]

there were moments of tantalizing promise

[vestal finch]

lol

[long wharf]

really shaky game design decisions plagued it as well

[copper raft]

Anthem died cause EA didnt meet sales target so they dropped support entirely instead of.salvage it

Its a classic EA strategy

[long wharf]

Anthem died because there was no saving it

Anthem's failure lays entirely at Bioware's feet

EA gave them millions and years to do Anthem

and Bioware management pissed it away

[mild tartan]

^ Bioware fucked up most of it, pretty sure they basically lied to EA about what they had and EA were the ones that made them keep the only good mechanic lol

[long wharf]

zero EA oversight

EA didn't know what Anthem was until someone from EA management showed up for a demo

oddly enough, nobody on the Anthem dev team knew what Anthem was either until that happened

after years of dicking around

[copper raft]

tbh it never looked that great even with the attempted hype

[long wharf]

the EA guy saw the flying and said "fuck yes, that's awesome! more of that!"

[simple junco]

It didn't even get a name until its announcement

[abstract phoenix]

What’s the best way to level up to unlock force staffs

[simple junco]

Like, right before it

[mild tartan]

"OH SHIT WE NEED TO SHOW SOMETHING UHH THROW TOGETHER A DEMO" lol, must have been a chaotic place to work at that point

[copper raft]

Pray that the store gets it

[long wharf]

so, the flying got polished, the environment was a primary focus for the flying, and classic Bioware management just assumed "Bioware magic" was going to come save the day again

[jovial frigate]

my next orange attempt

[long wharf]

turns out, "Bioware magic" is a strong leadership vision with talented and directed people working on a single goal

something Anthem didn't have, ever

[vestal finch]

So they just threw something together without any vision?

[long wharf]

yep

[simple junco]

To be fair most projects work that way

[long wharf]

just plain wrong

[mild tartan]

It's weird because the good part of Bioware was always about the stories and characters and how your overarching choices could effect them, don't know why they thought an online gaas grinder would be a good choice

[long wharf]

if that was true, nothing would ever come out fun or polished

[simple junco]

That's just how it is boyo

[long wharf]

it really isn't

[vestal finch]

Most projects do come out unfun and unpolished

[long wharf]

I've done big software development, and I've done game development

the majority of successful projects are not run that way

if you want to include every half-assed indie dev project, then we're talking two very different things

[fluid knot]

oosh

[mild tartan]

noice

Fuck time to grind for mats again

[fluid knot]

Yuup

[leaden pier]

pretty nice for gun psyker

[manic needle]

Please censor your swear words, this is a Christian server

[mild tartan]

is there any reason to not speed through malice runs if you just need some plasteel? seems like Diamantine is the only one that really scales with difficulty

[copper raft]

cool
What game

[vestal finch]

It's not fun.

[leaden pier]

sorry lad, the only god i worship is my beloved

[long wharf]

I contributed to America's Army 2.4

[vestal finch]

I don't bother much with oranges, they're not that much better

[vestal finch]

lol!

[mild tartan]

Americas Army? That shit was the bomb

[long wharf]

I also wrote some of the original Unreal engine documentation for Unreal 2 way back in the day

[mild tartan]

I even liked AA3 even though it was a step back

[vestal finch]

We got a boomer!

[long wharf]

anyways, the point I was making is that Anthem had an extremely promising core

in spite of the dev hell it went through

but it wasn't going to be a quick nor cheap fix

and EA didn't see how to recover the reputation of the game

so they wisely dropped it

Darktide's release felt eerily similar to Anthem's

[manic needle]

Should have released an anime about the game 😛

[copper raft]

I remember when they dropped Age of Reckoning because it wasn't a WoW killer

[long wharf]

if CDPR hadn't fixed a lot of CP2077, that anime wouldn't have helped them

Age of Reckoning also had severe problems

the dev kept promising this massive world vision, and could barely deliver a competent single player experience

another failure that wasn't EA's fault

[copper raft]

I disagree that is very much a classic EA stunt. Hold overly ambitious sales goals, dont meet them, flip table and move onto the next spaghetti

[long wharf]

you're missing the part where the decision to be overly ambitious doesn't happen in a vacuum

you don't make a lot of money by randomly assuming every project pitched to you is going to blow up

devs not meeting expectations happens, and the publisher is paying for that development and needs RoI

so sure, EA has done scummy things in the past

but that doesn't mean they hold all the blame for your favorite game's failure

[copper raft]

Never said either of these games were my favorite lmao

[echo parrot]

Thats a divert

[simple junco]

Oh rip, was midgame and couldn't reply

[long wharf]

anyways, FartShart has a reputation for shitty releases and fixing things up over time

even if they don't deliver on everything they say they will

and what keeps me playing Darktide is that the mission gameplay is highly polished and fun

[simple junco]

Oh ye, so about that. Darktide's core gameplay differs wildly from Anthem's. Polish and thought vs no polish and a lot of thought.

[sage flower]

what's the soul blaze build?

[simple junco]

They just need to do what they always do and listen to the community and the game's fine.

[long wharf]

purge staff

[copper raft]

This is true. Best i can hope for is they update quicker than they did with V2

[long wharf]

well, they need to, or Darktide is going to find itself negative steam reviews in a couple months

that's an incredibly difficult hole to climb out of

ask NMS

[hot zephyr]

Basically take a Purge Staff + Psychic Communion and Ascendant Blaze, and Warp Battery if you feel brave, then dump warp charge stacks to burninate the world

[sage flower]

does it do well in damnation?

[long wharf]

for horde clearing, yes

provided you have properly rolled gear

[keen pawn]

by any chance, does anyone know if block efficiency effects the amount of peril you take when using (Kenetic Deflection) or is it only when you surpass the 90% peril and you get onto the stamina?

[sage flower]

puffs or charge attacks with purge?

[hot zephyr]

Damnation is more about teamwork than a specific build

[long wharf]

situational

you should just try it and see for yourself

[sage flower]

i am!

[long wharf]

asking for how to play something isn't going to do you much good

Darktide isn't that complicated.

[hot zephyr]

Situationally dependent. Puffs are great for slowing down mobs and thinning out trash so your vet can murder the elites, charge is great when you are holding a choke

[long wharf]

you're not going to thin anything with puffs

[vagrant cedar]

puffs are also good to keep the stacks up

[vestal finch]

Puff has better stagger

[long wharf]

and repeated puffs is terrible on peril efficiency

[fast swan]

yo are the soulblaze feats really worth it? in testing the stacks from wrath and ruin dont even kill nearby fodder

[long wharf]

wrack and ruin is awful, don't use it

[vagrant cedar]

322112

[fast swan]

what do i use instead, the peril damage one?

[long wharf]

for purge, 321122

[fast swan]

ty

[long wharf]

unless you really don't care about holding onto warp charges, then 321112

[simple junco]

For purge? You don't really need to spec into it if you don't want to.

Some run KB and full peril resist to cover more bases.

[long wharf]

well, purge is pointless if you don't run AB

[hot zephyr]

I prefer the 321112 build myself, dumping charges then puffing to keep the stacks refreshed will end a horde

[long wharf]

and there's zero reason to run purge if you aren't going to lean into it

[simple junco]

It fills the same job as void, just closer and provides CC

[long wharf]

except void does it at range as well

[simple junco]

You're better off with void in most cases, but it does have a use

[long wharf]

purge is the best way to apply soulblaze

and if you're going to use it, you're using it to rely on soulblaze killing the horde

[simple junco]

It's the best way to clear the flank as well

[long wharf]

which means you run AB

ergo, you do spec into purge

[simple junco]

15 stacks is literally all you need to kill a horde on T5

Hell, even less

[mild tartan]

anyone getting error codes trying to join rn?

[long wharf]

I'm already connected and playing, i.e. waiting for store refresh

[simple junco]

15 stacks is also enough to kill any rager/mauler in a horde as well

[fast swan]

what does solblaze do?

or what is it supposed to do

[long wharf]

it's a dot

weaker version of burn

[fast swan]

cuz it does like no damge lol

[simple junco]

It's a DOT that stacks on itself

[hot zephyr]

It's just a DoT (Damage Over Time) that when you refresh it increase the damage per tick per stack

[long wharf]

it's terribly weak compared to burn

[fast swan]

i feel like it oculd use a damage buff or make enemies affected by it weaker to force attacks or something

[vagrant cedar]

go to meatgrinder and test it

[fast swan]

i did, it does no damage

at least from wrath and ruin

[vagrant cedar]

then your staff is shit

[fast swan]

yes

[vagrant cedar]

show the staff

[hot zephyr]

Then you aren't stacking it enough or you're lowbie and need better gear

[fast swan]

am lowbie

[faint perch]

Warp attack includes both the Brain Burst and Staff attacks, yes?

[long wharf]

staff attacks

[fast swan]

and sword charge attack

[hot zephyr]

Warp attack is anything that generates peril

[long wharf]

and yet, lacerations affects BB

[vagrant cedar]

you can have 150+ dmg per tick with this kind of staff

[fast swan]

wtf

does it make it do that damage on feats like wrath and ruin?

[long wharf]

I can only imagine what you rolled off in order to keep +1 stamina

[faint perch]

Why is everyone running Quietitude instead of Warp Absorption then?

[vagrant cedar]

lmfaoooo

[mild tartan]

lmao

[long wharf]

because constantly quelling

[vagrant cedar]

it was sprint efficiency

[long wharf]

poor staff

[hot zephyr]

Pretend Wrack and Ruin doesn't exist, it's absolutely awful and does not work

Just ignore it

[fast swan]

it should, would be so fun if bursting an elite rewarded aoe damage

[vagrant cedar]

idk whta those feets are but i'm running 322112

[fast swan]

wrath and ruin should spawn a trauma staff AoE at the bottom of the dead elite

[vagrant cedar]

what happens is, you soul blaze all horde

[fast swan]

make it somewhat useful

[vagrant cedar]

lots of them die

you get warps

your spam cost cheaper and cheaper

with 6 stacks

nonstop spam

if you have lots

you can use F

you purge even more

rinse and repeat

[long wharf]

problem is 2 stacks of soulblaze on a clean target is 5 damage per soulblaze tick

it's literally worthless

[vagrant cedar]

4 vs 6 is not 5 dmg

[long wharf]

0 vs 2 is

[simple junco]

Wrack and Ruin would probably be much better for Purg if it procced on Soulblaze elite/special kill

[long wharf]

I said "on a clean target"

[vagrant cedar]

yeah but you F with 6 stacks

[long wharf]

and Wrack and Ruin requires you to BB the elite

[vagrant cedar]

oh, yeah that one is crap

[long wharf]

which means pausing your purging, charging up BB while the horde stops being staggered

[simple junco]

Which, usually, you aren't going to BB with Purg unless you run KB

[long wharf]

have fun with that.

[simple junco]

Which nulls the build lol

[alpine portal]

it the range was 10 m it might be ok

[simple junco]

Purg's range is 15m

[long wharf]

soulblaze damage needs to be increased

[alpine portal]

ment wreack and ruin

[simple junco]

Ah ye

[long wharf]

yeah, 3m is really short

[alpine portal]

3 m is literally nothing melee range

almose

[simple junco]

Soulblaze is fine, they just need to work how it operates with skills

Give it some uniqueness

[hot zephyr]

If it was ALL targets within 5m or something it might be decent

[long wharf]

no, soulblaze is not fine

[hot zephyr]

Not just 1 rando dude

[simple junco]

So it's NOT T5 viable?

[long wharf]

now, if things with soulblaze took additional damage from warp attacks, that'd be something

[sage flower]

essence harvest is ass.

[long wharf]

means you could combo up with another psyker

[alpine portal]

im running 3 2 2 1 1 2 on a purga build what mistakes am i makin g

[vagrant cedar]

none

[long wharf]

you aren't using communion, mistake #1

[alpine portal]

other than skill 🙂

[hot zephyr]

No communion means gl maintaining/building 6 stacks

[long wharf]

you want as many chances to get warp charges as possible

[alpine portal]

psy aura is actually nice

[long wharf]

especially if you're going to ult and lose those stacks

[vagrant cedar]

you get 36% cheaper soulblaze spam

on 6 stacks

less time quelling

[long wharf]

and when you ult you lose those charges

[vagrant cedar]

more dmg/more stacks

yes but you ult on a new wave

[hot zephyr]

Psy aura is great, but not on a Purg build. Purg is a horde clear build, you won't get BBing elites

[vagrant cedar]

on many mobs

so you get them back either way

quickly

[long wharf]

I'd love to hear how you're maintaining warp charges between hordes

[simple junco]

So you're talking about SB abilities, and not SB itself

[vagrant cedar]

you already got 10% from ab

extra 4% won't be a gamechanger

free spam most of the time is tho

[steel lake]

Any advice on getting Pick N Mix? So far managed 3/5. Last Penance to get.

If anyone wants to run a map to try and get it, that would be dope (assuming some of ya have other classes for synergy and such)

[vagrant cedar]

but to each his own

[long wharf]

4% whenever you or anyone in coherency kills something

[hot zephyr]

10% from AB if SB deals the killing blow

[vagrant cedar]

yeah

[long wharf]

that procs far more often than solo 10% when the whole team is in coherency

[vagrant cedar]

4% every 25th mob

25mobs on the screen and you get a warp

[hot zephyr]

SB won't deal killing blow very often if you have literally any other horde clear on your strike team

[alpine portal]

works with hords Im always full mid hord, then ult. its done and we end fith full

[hot zephyr]

every mob you or your teammates kill

So it procs wayyyyyy more often

[vagrant cedar]

yes, every 25 mobs

that's what 4% is

[thorn frost]

staves unlock at level 10 right?

[hot zephyr]

Typically Damn run you'll have 2500+ kills

So that's like 100 warp charges

[vagrant cedar]

40

not 100

[simple junco]

Statistically, 4% doesn't mean every 25 kills.

[vagrant cedar]

wait

[simple junco]

Mathematically, yes

[merry wyvern]

Check this https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2890127609

[vagrant cedar]

it could be that you won't get a charge with 200 mobs

yes

RNGTide

[long wharf]

RNGtide, I like it

[vagrant cedar]

rngtide and casinotide

[long wharf]

plinkotide

because of Tencent

could call it Gachatide

[alpine portal]

3 fs from melk... all gold... no deflector

[simple junco]

All they really need to do is make WC go down 1 stack at a time

To start off with

[vagrant cedar]

it would be noob friendly

[simple junco]

Compared to not being in combat for 25 seconds due to maximizing diamantine returns?

We gotta find shiz man

If anything it's more harmful to experienced players since there's more time between combat scenarios due to scavenging.

[copper raft]

yes

[hot zephyr]

it's so your stacks have to drop on elevators

You can't maintain stacks through those transitions, they are purposely timed to force your buffs to drop

[simple junco]

Inb4 horde after an elevator

Luv me T5

[vagrant cedar]

i mean, losing 6 stacks aint a big deal tho

[simple junco]

Depends on the build

[copper raft]

Give the poor ai director a chance

[simple junco]

With a full AB setup, nah

[vagrant cedar]

you're probably like 20-30% less efficient but can still do alot of shit

[simple junco]

With a KB build? Maybe a bit more

[hot zephyr]

Yeah, if you're running a build that actively KBs a lot you'll have 4 stacks no issues, 6 is hard to maintain tho if your team has strong DPS

Cus remember, you aren't just meat grinding

[vagrant cedar]

your team just needs to let you bb a mob once you go from area to area and not pick every enemies head

i done that achievement that you gotta keep 4 stacks for 5minutes or something

with randoms

and without them asking

in more cordinated team it aint hard

ofc not elevators and shit

[hot zephyr]

Yeah, it's not hard to maintain stacks if you actively BB

But if you're a build that has your weapon out a lot it's tougher without PC

[sage flower]

okay, dumb build concept. blazing spirit force sword, and crucian roulette headhunter autogun. gets you to maximum crit chance of 50% on your force sword.

[vagrant cedar]

idk the only FS is good in my eyes cause of ranged block

[long wharf]

or you get bloodthirsty and blazing spirit on a fsword

[hot zephyr]

FS' light attack is decent if you can find a corner/choke to just spam on poxes, but yeah it's honestly mostly just what you deal with to get Deflector right now

[simple junco]

Have we got that yet?

[hot zephyr]

If a Chainsword or Axe or whatever could get Deflector we'd all use that instead

[thorn frost]

wow sounds like a pain to use shitty ranged weapons for such a long time

[vagrant cedar]

100%

[echo parrot]

Knife with deflector

My love

[manic needle]

I actually like the Force Sword as a compliment to Voidstrike

[sage flower]

nothing stopping you from having deflector and blazing spirit. Crucian roulette is on the autogun, because for some reason it boosts your global crit chance, not just the crit chance when using the autogun.

just fire 10 rounds, switch off while never reloading, and forget it exists.

[hot zephyr]

I run FS and VIII Infantry Autogun with 122133 as a build, honestly it's viable in T5 as long as you have a decent horde clear. You murder maniacs and elites like absolute crazy

[clever stream]

not having a fast passive quell is a killer, to me. The upsides of Force Sword just don't outweigh the loss of being able to quell while running in 10 seconds

[vagrant cedar]

hmmmm

[clever stream]

50 seconds to passively quell on both your options is just tooo long, haha

[vagrant cedar]

that kinda sounds like a huge bug

and might be fixed asap

[sage flower]

when has a bug ever been fixed asap?

[vagrant cedar]

i mean

true

[hot zephyr]

Yeah that's a huge bug, it's applying to both weapons instead of just the gun

[sage flower]

it took them a week to revert a change that was actually harming players.

[vagrant cedar]

i mean it's quite an easy fix to limit the % to that weapon only

[hot zephyr]

They'll definitely fix it within a week or two

[vagrant cedar]

so it won't be long till it's fixed

[manic needle]

On a Voidstrike with Transfer Peril, your Peril quelling comes from using the staff 😛

[vagrant cedar]

but 4%, and there's 19 bullets in the clip

18 x 4 = 72% extra crit chance

+5 from class

77% crit chance with melee?

[sage flower]

yeah, it caps at 50% crit rate in my testing.

[vagrant cedar]

ah

that would make a FS actually viable in many situations

ofc you'd be forced to melee only

[ornate hamlet]

Malleus Monstronum seems like a near impossible penance. How the hell are you supposed to do 90% of the damage unless you know people playing the game?

[vagrant cedar]

you ask ogre to tank and you BB the demon lord

[hot zephyr]

Yeah, it caps out. I have a 40 round mag Autogun with +3% CR, and it definitely doesn't always crit on those last 6 rounds. There's definitely a crit cap

[vagrant cedar]

and ask everyone else to go make a cup of tea

[manic needle]

Your best bet is to ask in a group with a shield ogryn. If everyone's on board then its very doable

[ornate hamlet]

Then some rando shoots the demon lord and does more than 10%?

[raw breach]

Does anyone remember some pinned post or something that explained what determined the item level your character can get? I could have swore there was a pinned post but i can't find it now

[vagrant cedar]

then you got unlucky and try with another group

i done it in 1 try so

it can be done

[ornate hamlet]

Have to be real lucky to run in with a good group like that

[vagrant cedar]

if you help them do their penance first/later you'll have higher % of succeeding

[manic needle]

The harder part is finding a shield ogryn in a random game in my experience

[ornate hamlet]

Seems kind of silly to have a penance depend so largely on other players helping you

[vagrant cedar]

well no, cause this game is short af, and most people at 30 with more or less topped out gear so they won't mind helping a newbie out

[vagrant cedar]

funny enough one asked me randomly if i wanted to do it

and was legit

[clever stream]

Sure, you get a similar behavior using the flame staff on hordes and getting the natural 10% quell on kill. Any psyker can usually keep their warp low if it's horde time and they're covered. My point is that if you're high quell and in a situation you need to move, it's not passively quelling for you to prep for the next fight. You gotta spend some time at some point to quell before you can rev back up. Also works if you ever have to switch to melee to clean up a few guys around you -> free quell to empty so you're ready to go

[vagrant cedar]

you can also do that penance with a good psyker, who can perma block the demon

it is a bit harder tho

[hot zephyr]

I gotta agree here. Having a non-warp weapon for the passive quell can help a lot in high intensity situations where you can't let off the DPS gas pedal is a really good option to have

[manic needle]

Honestly Transfer Peril is a cut above Battle Meditation. On the Smelter Complex finale I can Spam Voidstrike for the entire duration and be below 15% peril the entire time

[keen pawn]

Heres the answer, I tested

This is based on basic ad melee (Scab Bruisers)

[hot zephyr]

So in summary, you get reduced peril and reduced stam usage, but it doesn't affect shoving? If I'm reading that right?

[keen pawn]

Yep

the shoving i decided to add cus maybe for some weird reason it would but nope lol

[vagrant cedar]

shoving aint blocking so it makes sense

[hot zephyr]

Yeah, it's a good control to ensure it's working

[keen pawn]

Spaghetti code tho

[clever stream]

It might be worth it, if the sword was just bonkers awesome.. I just never am too impressed with the stuff it can do.
Plus any action you do costs warp, which can kill you if you just swapped off your staff at 100% at worst, and at best, it'll just pause the 50second quell it does have so it takes even longer. Zzzz

What are you getting? Only real answer is the ranged block, so you gotta make that value call i guess

[keen pawn]

I should note that the Block eff was on a curio

[keen pawn]

U can block bullets tho (except snipers ofc)

pair that wil the F ability and u basically can block forever and cover revives

[hot zephyr]

Yeah, I honestly find my trusty Chainsword is far more versatile. The activate does less damage than the charged FS, but the various attack combos of the CS can get you out of so many more situations than the strikedown-only FS

[clever stream]

Yeah, like i said, only thing it has going for it is the ranged block. So what do you value more? Free quells in 10 seconds that you get while running/killing? Or ranged block potential?

I just run 30% ranged toughness resist and get the fast and free quells all day, myself

[keen pawn]

Also, that fforce sword has better dmg output than any opther from my understanding

[hot zephyr]

You clearly haven't had to tank multiple gunners on T5, they'll peril cap you can then break your block nearly instantly if they catch you exposed

[clever stream]

I dont think so. Power sword, yes. Force sword? I havent felt that way

[keen pawn]

I have, while its a pain yes. Its still nice

[keen pawn]

make sure ur ofc powering up and doing heavy attacks on crits

with a bad one at 60% dmg on tier 5 mission

also ignores crushers amour

[simple junco]

FS goes through crushers?

[keen pawn]

with the charge ability

[hot zephyr]

Doesn't "go thru", but it certainly hurts them a lot when it's a charged attack

[simple junco]

Ah, so like a BB

[clever stream]

BB also does, and i can do it from a safe range, and not stunlock myself while doing it

[keen pawn]

well, u dont bounce off like all the other attacks

[simple junco]

Yeahhh in this case I'd say that BB is the safer option

Crushers don't typically spawn alone on T5

[hot zephyr]

Yeah, problem is the crusher's overhand is so powerful it can instant break your block, even if it's a deflector block

[clever stream]

BBs massive upside is the crazy amount of dodge/awareness you can have while BBing. YOu're basically a scout while also ripping good single target damage

[hot zephyr]

So being in melee with a crusher is a bad place to be

[keen pawn]

havn't had a crusher yet lol

[clever stream]

you're losing all that and stunlocking yourself if you're doing FS

[keen pawn]

also u can stop bouncing dogs easier

from my exp

[simple junco]

Since your camera likes to move downward, the argument can be said that it's the exact opposite of BB

[keen pawn]

the shove is a stunlock

[clever stream]

Not sure i follow. I start a BB and dodge, whip my camera around like a madman gathering intel

[keen pawn]

only on shielded ads (bosses)

[clever stream]

Yeah, you and the crusher are in a mutual stunlock. If there's another enemy you're fucked

[hot zephyr]

Yeah, and the issue is if there's an unchecked crusher, there's probably 2 other crushers/bulwarks nearby

[keen pawn]

why u got team mates right

[clever stream]

The question isn't about when things are going well. If you've got all your teammates focused on 2-3 enemies nearby, then you're probably just fine either way

[keen pawn]

usually my 2nd is a shield ogryn and has all the attention while i kill

[severe dove]

Did they ever fix trauma staff?

[clever stream]

BB -> you're free to dodge, look however you want while it goes. bypasses armor, does good damage, at any range
FS -> has to close the distance, you're stunlocked too.
What's the positive tradeoff?

[vagrant cedar]

you look 10x cooler when you die

[hot zephyr]

Yeah, if your premade or have a buddy with you then that's a big difference compare to a PUG of randos and you're already carrying a shotgun veteran who still has 33% accuracy and steals all the ammo

[vagrant cedar]

😏

[fresh reef]

surge staff
https://tenor.com/view/squidward-weekend-brain-goodbye-brain-trash-gif-5709446

[manic needle]

Honestly Im not even sure what the point of this discussion is, like you would actually use Force Sword special on a Crusher or Rager unless they were alone or with trash mobs that you could push with the counterattack.

[keen pawn]

heres what i used (like i said, bad sword but yanno lol)

[clever stream]

The discussion/thought I was trying to have was that force sword has no selling points to warrant the 50 second passive quell. The only one is the ranged block, if that's something you value over a 10 second passive quell. Not a good tradeoff, to me, but

[manic needle]

The selling point of the Force Sword is clearly the push and counterattack and its efficient disposal of Mutants and Hounds

[simple junco]

FS can be good if you need to fill in a hole in your build

But so can knife

so

[spiral lion]

but knife is not fancy and can't have deflector

[simple junco]

Knife makes you go zoom

[clever stream]

knife being a good weapon to kill hounds/mutants? Or a different hole than FS?

[keen pawn]

deflector is great imo

[weary wasp]

Push attack is barely of any use. The infinite dodge and huge stagger radius on push is where it's at. Plus cleave on light to heavy is pretty good

[merry wyvern]

You obviously haven’t seen how fast I can move tech around with the knife then

[manic needle]

Deflector is definitely good, but as it's not part of the core kit I wouldnt use it as a selling point

[weary wasp]

I'm pretty sure the passive quell during block is an oversight rather than feature

[hot zephyr]

FS is definitely great for disposing of Mutants and Hounds, and it's light attack isn't terrible, but it's awful when you gotta smack poxes around 2-3 times to kill them when horde clearing

[keen pawn]

like i been saying, pair it with the talent

[alpine portal]

deflector and barrier is good for clutch revives. your better than an orgyn in some cases because your ult clears major threats out of the way

[keen pawn]

like, dont get me wrong all builds are good but some are fun and some are just really good. Also depends how u wanna play

[manic needle]

This is why you dont pair Force Sword with Surge staff tbh. If your staff/secondary isnt something with horde clear then you dont want the Force Sword

[keen pawn]

pair mine with void, void is too good

[manic needle]

Yes, exactly.

[keen pawn]

i found having the perk that takes a % of peril away on crit kills isn't based on the amount u collat. Its based on if u kill with it (obviously lol) and how many it kills including its blast radius kills

[hot zephyr]

100% agree, should be pairing your Surge with a Chainsword or Dueling Sword imo

[shut thorn]

Can be mitigated by switch cancelling

or doing light heavy

[keen pawn]

eg: I charge up with 20 peril shot and if if kills (i think) 4 ads all 20% is quelled is immediately. very nice to spam fire hoards

[shut thorn]

honestly if FS had better mobility, I'd stop trying to use other stuff

[warped perch]

How can you be the staff supremacist if you use other stuff :(

[hot zephyr]

Yeah, it just feels heavy. Mine has like a 74% roll on mobility or something and it still feels like it weighs 700 pounds

[keen pawn]

preference i suppose

[shut thorn]

the fact that psyker is the slowest archetype p much doesnt help

[merry wyvern]

It’s all about the dodge-slide combos to get the extra distance from each dodge

Hard to build the muscle memory for it though

[unkempt juniper]

duelling sword mk5 is faster than the knife

[manic needle]

Im surprised that so many people are sleeping on Mk. 5 Axe with Surge

But also glad that people are enjoying a little build variety

[merry wyvern]

I just can’t get myself to like axes on any character. Was the same for me in VT2

[shut thorn]

wdym, it's been meta for 2 months

its just an incredibly boring playstyle

[manic needle]

I actually rarely see it in practice

[shut thorn]

because it's incredibly unfun

[manic needle]

Fun is subjective. I enjoyed it when I ran it.

I find the rapid clicking of the combat knife unfun, but I also have Carpel Tunnel.

[clever stream]

I wish the knife's power attack had a faster release. You do the overhead axes and they immediately drop as soon as you let go, feels so nice. On the knife it feels like a 2 second affair to let go of a heavy attack into someone

[muted lantern]

Are any of the soulblaze feats actually good except the one on 30?

I did some testing and the 2 stacks of soulblaze on elite headpop does literally no damage, so I'm guessing the 4 stacks on warp charge over max is also kind of useless.

Does this mean there is really only one way to build psyker, which of the feats are actually worth thinking about?

[rigid widget]

Should I reroll one of the perks?

[manic needle]

Thats a nice staff. Consecrate it and see what blessing you get first, maybe

[vagrant cedar]

run and gun 🙆‍♂️

[manic needle]

Every time

[vagrant cedar]

322112

[muted lantern]

yeah I figured the 1s are must haves on their respective levels, the only ones that I was giving some thought to were the options for the first feat

the parry is so good, and completely changes how psyker plays

[unkempt juniper]

if ti was me, i would reroll the infested dmg one. unarmored dmg is already t4 and a good one to have. Even if you like infested dmg, you can reroll it until it's t4 as well

[vagrant cedar]

it rly depends on your gameplay

[merry wyvern]

Flak is a nice one to have for wave/gunner clearing. I’d probably keep the infested since they have higher base hp, makes all hordes feel “unarmored”

[rigid widget]

Think I'll keep them as is for now, see what I get for the final blessing to decide if reoroll

[keen pawn]

U said u like knives and CS's? I got these lol

[ornate hamlet]

Took the advice on here about ascendant soulblaze build, pretty awesome

[keen pawn]

[ornate hamlet]

Nothing like setting a room on fire

[keen pawn]

I've only heard shit about it

[ornate hamlet]

Why don't people like it? Works great for me

[shut thorn]

I just have a side button to repeat lmb input until I let go of it tbh

Broke a few mice before with vt

and other games

[vagrant cedar]

Agree? @shut thorn https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVSlTgZ0yO4

top level moves btw

[ornate hamlet]

lol the psyker is finally done with everyone treating them like crap

finally snapped

[keen pawn]

dunno, never heard good about it

[vagrant cedar]

no more!

[thick carbon]

oh god the stats are horrible. that blessing tho...

[ebon jolt]

Reroll infested to flak.

[manic needle]

Focused Channeling on Voidstrike is overrated in my personal opinion

[severe trout]

they treat us like sh!t bc they know we're op hehe

[thick carbon]

this is the first staff I've seen it on sadly

[manic needle]

Oh RIP

Get Armoury'd on

[hot zephyr]

This. If you are playing voidstrike you need time/space and your team needs to provide that time/space. If you need focused channeling you're in for a bad time

[manic needle]

Your team can help, but Force Sword is your best option for self reliance. I really cant overstate how good it is paired with Voidstrike specifically

[thick carbon]

I don't need it, I live for close-quarters. I just have never actually seen it on a staff until now so figured I'd nab it.

[bleak tulip]

focused channeling is near useless if you just know to dodge

[thick carbon]

also havent gotten a voidstrike above 330 in forever, so..

[hot zephyr]

I can see FS/Void being solid build wise. It's not my style, but that's fine if it works for you

[bleak tulip]

lukewarm take: rating is pointless especially for weapons with multiple dumnp stats like void

the only thing you need is damage, charge rate and maaybe warp resist but if you got the other two you good

[near wyvern]

Why the F they don't stop quelling at 97???

[bleak tulip]

anything past that is a bonus

[alpine portal]

any thing past that is wasted when you pop, heads

[manic needle]

Rating is good in that youre more likely to get the stats you do need on a weapon with a higher rating, but yeah its not like Vermintide where your item's power is a core part of character performance

[vagrant cedar]

what do you mean

[near wyvern]

When spamming BB you only need to quell to 97 and you can then perform another without exploding

On the video they quell an unnecessary amount to gimp the DPS

[vagrant cedar]

well yeah but that's only good if you need that 1 more pop

if you gonna pop multiple times

you can quell more

[alpine portal]

no you can keep going to 97. if your gonna quell more use a staff or switch to a non force weapon

[near wyvern]

You quell to 97, pop, quell to 97, pop, quell to 97, pop

Against a beefier target

Or against multiple ranged enemies

[severe trout]

this is some advanced stuff 👀

good to know tnx

[near wyvern]

Basic knowledge my siblings

[alpine portal]

quell to.... 45 per pop carry the two...
51 if you want to pop two times.

[vagrant cedar]

i mean, that might work on paper yeah, but having more % in the bank is more safer from my mind

sometimes you g et fucked and can't queel in time

and then become a firework

[hot zephyr]

quell speed increases when you continuously quell for longer doesn't it? So wouldn't it make sense to have one long quell instead of several small slow quells?

[subtle linden]

Quell to 55% so you can BB and end up at 100% and waste time

[vagrant cedar]

those few seconds aint gonna be a game changer for me

better safe than sorry

and my staff aint that fast

[near wyvern]

Yea but not with BB

Quelling 3% is a lot faster than quelling 45% (which is the peril cost of LMB BB)

[alpine portal]

if need to test it to see if you get off more with quell to 97 vs 51

[fresh reef]

surge staff users, how do not feel like you're being carried when using this thing?

[shut thorn]

Why is he quelling so low? Literally would've done more by just dropping down there and being a meatshield

you can bb at 97%

[fresh reef]

I can stun mutants, but other than that was being hard carried by our other psyker who was running purg

[vagrant cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/south-park-cartman-screw-you-guys-im-going-home-gif-14697557

[alpine portal]

Idk if bb is viable dps...

[lethal folio]

Surge staff is the slab shield of staves.

[supple skiff]

lack of self awareness

[shut thorn]

its not

[subtle linden]

Roll 25% flak dmg on ur surge staff and ur actually doing mad work on green night vision goggle shooters

[shut thorn]

if thats u, stop quelling so low

ree

[fresh reef]

elaborate

[vagrant cedar]

IT"S SAFER

[alpine portal]

most staff are better, right?

[shut thorn]

ya

[viscid cloak]

im beggining to get sick and tired of these snipers spawning without a sound cue and deleting more than half of my health while im distracted with the horde

[lusty wave]

Friendly reminder, devils claw MK1 or MKIV are good crowd control options for psyker

[severe trout]

purgatus is my jam

[lusty wave]

They also have decent stamina and speed to dodge

[alpine portal]

mother effing right

[shut thorn]

ig, gj, still I wouldn't quell past like 90%

[subtle linden]

My vet alt with a white boltgun does more dps than BB

[supple skiff]

overvaluing CC thinking they are not being carried

[vagrant cedar]

i don't like constant quelling every bb

more micro

[supple skiff]

I find FS push attack just as good imo

[shut thorn]

Idk I hate BB in general

[vagrant cedar]

i quell to 20-30 i can focus on popping and surrounding

[shut thorn]

I avoid using BB as much as possible

[supple skiff]

for CCing spooky guys in mele

[fresh reef]

that seems to be the case

[shut thorn]

What staff were you using there

[alpine portal]

if your not wiping... i will never complain hell use a dagger and revolver. idc.
generall statment

[hot zephyr]

Quelling more is arguably effective so you can pop more BBs during a KB, but if your build doesn't include KB then I can see arguing for less quelling

[fresh reef]

why run surge when I can use trauma and just kill the enemy

[shut thorn]

this

[vagrant cedar]

same, but i just made that vid for the sole purpose of being lazy af and using my team as cannon fodder while i sit at the top safe af and just pop heads or do w/e i want, was supposed to be a meme video

but then everyone was like DON"T QUEEL MORE THAN 97%

REEEEEE

[shut thorn]

dw you're fine, it'd be funny if your team died, wonder if it's gonna climb up there

Going off of ai it should climb up there but it'd be funny seeing it fit thru the lil jump down bit

[vagrant cedar]

the team was quite decent so i had my full faith in them

[alpine portal]

other wise learn your class, help me. and the team dont be dumb.
if your a dodge god and NEVER get pinned run around everywhere IDC

[vagrant cedar]

i feel like you smashed 5 different sentences into that line

[shut thorn]

what staff were u using tho

surge?

[vagrant cedar]

purge ofc

[shut thorn]

ah rip

i see now why u didnt use it

bb justified

[vagrant cedar]

i could have but bb seemed more funny at that point

[alpine portal]

because I did it saves time... same reason I dont paint my minis. :0

[alpine portal]

its more that im really bad at grammer and could not care any less. 🙂

[shut thorn]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1042791141441019934/1054849654874964088/ezgif-4-07a415a73f.gif

[vagrant cedar]

if you thought i suck at psyker, i can assure you i don't

[shut thorn]

i suck at psyker tbh

[vagrant cedar]

i do psyker stuff more than efficiently

[vagrant cedar]

purge and axe, all you need to unsuck at psyker

[bleak tulip]

if you resort to saying "I dont suck at this I can assure you" you already lost the argument

[shut thorn]

void and fs :)

[severe trout]

its all about efficiency playng psyboy

[alpine portal]

if you though YOU sucked at psyker I can ASSURE you I AM worse 🙂
no offence meant here. if you took any.

[vagrant cedar]

i just prefer to quell way more than 90% because it gets me time to look around and see my surroundings

[shut thorn]

I could play psyker very optimally instead of doing meme strats but at that point I think I'd rather uninstall

[vagrant cedar]

rather than be tunnel vision and pop heads non stop

[severe trout]

YEP

snipe snipers

[vagrant cedar]

that's how i avoid getting damage 99% of the time

exactly

[shut thorn]

I do that during lmb bb charge up tbh

[vagrant cedar]

and sneaky ass drop downs from low mobs

that can backstab you all the time

[shut thorn]

void lmb is generally faster as sad as it is

[alpine portal]

good point Im usually looking during pop charge. and reason to switch it?

[shut thorn]

Also people need to learn to use lmb on surge

[severe trout]

but the quell 97 strat seems good for nurgle beasts and plague ogryns, will try out next time

[shut thorn]

Really irks me when I see a psyker just spam rmb quick charge for a whole minute on maniacs

[fresh reef]

gonna run the mission where I got carried while using surge with this thing
will report back on how it goes

[alpine portal]

try using staff instead, or doing cc to keep mobs off the dmg dealers. I think psykers are bad at bigboss fights unless you really going for force sword charge hits my 0.02$

[manic needle]

On a similar note, I've never once been in a party with someone using Surge Staff and thought to myself "Wow, I sure am glad this guy is stunlocking these poxwalkers"

[shut thorn]

Good luck, I trust you've absorbed into ur brain how to play void :)

[shut thorn]

p much

If you're gonna use surge, seriously use your lmb

[fresh reef]

wizard time motherfucker
fireball

[shut thorn]

even applies to void

since the lmb meme flies faster

helps on that train depot raid thing

where the snipers spawn on end of map

[fresh reef]

I love having to requeue constantly to not get put into a bot lobby

[vagrant cedar]

i hate it that it throughs you at the start of the area

[alpine portal]

its my fav part of dark tide.

[vagrant cedar]

rather than map selection

dumb af

[fresh reef]

the real damnation experience

[vagrant cedar]

wish there was a m for MAP button

[shut thorn]

I haven't been playing much t5 because of this

Friends stopped playing

:/

And heresy has penance people in it

[fresh reef]

one of my friends would love to play the game but his hardware just doesn't like it for some reason

[shut thorn]

has he tried fsr2

[fresh reef]

like, he gets 90 fps, except it constantly dips to 2 fps for no reason

[shut thorn]

turn off steam overlay

[fresh reef]

he refunded after trying everything under the sun

[shut thorn]

same with windows gamebar

[fresh reef]

except for this one

[manic needle]

You mean, the game's compelling itemization mechanics didn't keep them around? I can't believe it!

[fresh reef]

alright fourth time in a row, the game just wants me to carry bots

[shut thorn]

p much

[severe trout]

that's the worse part of playing this game: NO ONE TO PLAY WITH ;-----;

[vagrant cedar]

#vox-lfg-emea

hello?