psyker-class

[elfin roost]

BRAIN BURST

[lament topaz]

Hehe.

[dense cloud]

nut burster 😄

[elfin roost]

NO

[dense cloud]

brain grip

[nimble burrow]

still not sure what my favorite melee weapon for psyker is

[vast oyster]

I got a shiv

[lament topaz]

They all kill, each their own way.

[dense cloud]

hmm coaxe and fss 😄

coaxe with brutal and fs defloctor burner

[bleak tulip]

no

[alpine portal]

no probbly not lol

[warped perch]

My favorite melee weapon is hugs 🤗

[ornate hamlet]

This would be a fine emp's gift but from melk its just kind of bad lol

Save for something more worthwhile

[elfin roost]

This is why you wouldnt last a day in the imperium brother!

[ornate hamlet]

I will have you know hugs are perfectly lethal if you happen to be using a power fist

[elfin roost]

Oh shit

[alpine portal]

or just generally from orgyn

[elfin roost]

Ogryn can use bolta?

[ornate hamlet]

That works too

[elfin roost]

Surely he just holds it like a pistol kinda like an astartes

Aint no way thatd be 2 handed for em

[alpine portal]

im 100% sure the leathality rate from orgyn hugs is not zero

[hot tulip]

S OU R C E?!

[alpine portal]

zelots dont have coherency. like vets 🙂

[mild surge]

i like ur name. buff psyker. its needed

had a run with 3 vet shooters

call of duty style

[nimble needle]

Just along for the ride

[alpine yoke]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/zog3ud/datamined_classes/

It's datamined

[mild surge]

i kinda carried them due the fact well. that they were dead and i was reviving them still lol

died of mutie >.>

[ornate hamlet]

Getting to experience the All Guardsman Party from the perspective of a non-vet is probably painful for a variety of reasons

Havent had it happen to me yet

...Have gotten a few too many all-zealot parties as my psyker though

[mild surge]

sounds also painful

[mild surge]

3 classes data mined.
psyker>>> yeeee we has nothing we dunno

tbh when they gonna nerf the hell outta of this broken bolter gun

[warped perch]

The imperium just needs a lil love

[leaden pier]

well i have 5k marks or whatever they're called imma get it

[lament topaz]

I think the game is subtly nudging me to do higher level runs...

Nudging as in pretty much shutting off most of the XP gain from level 2 runs.

[leaden pier]

level 3 is pretty easy if you know the basics

[lofty robin]

not sure if this is confirmed or not, was testing out this surge staff and noticed that on crits it seems chain to more targets. is this true?

[leaden pier]

how many did it chain to

[lofty robin]

was testing on the training area, usually just chains that one blob of pox walkers, then on crits it sometimes jumps to the other packs on either or both sides

[bronze escarp]

not too many play the Psyker

[leaden pier]

as in number

[silver portal]

Anyone wanna help me 90 brain burst a boss in heresy mode? :3

[lofty robin]

ill do some more tests

[lofty robin]

seems to be up to two of the closest

[cyan notch]

melk is the best 🥰

[covert ermine]

Running damnation only pretty much. Feels like legendary from vt2 but game actually punch you in a face

[frail spire]

Does gunner resistance on curious also help with the stagger/knockback from gunners and repears or only the damage?

[flint turtle]

Data mining, we can find bits and pieces of upcoming content that get sprinkled in with patches ( this is a common practice to make content updates smaller as everything is trickled in)

[fast swan]

bro the trauma staff is so ass lmao

when are they buffing it?

even high level it pales so hard in comparison to any other staff

[mint heart]

I think I'm gonna give the dueling Mk V a go with purgatus instead of force sword. Played a lot with the Mk IV and surge and it was extremely good for horde clear. Didn't like the Mk V at first because the strikedown in the light attack combo interfered too much in horde clear for my taste.
Just now realized the Mk V heavy does enough damage to one shot some scabs/dregs on damn and does more damage overall to specials. Seems to be a good option combined with purgatus, the Mk IV not so much.

[robust meteor]

interesting take. i strongly dislike the rhythm of the 2 and 4 but love the 5

tbf its mainly the heavy spam and dodge distance i enjoy on the 5

[mint heart]

The repeating moveset of the 4 especially because it's overhead diagonal and not underhand worked better for me in hordes. The poke works well too it just doesn't do enough damage compared to the 5.

[uncut hamlet]

MK V feels great

havent used it on psyker yet but I have a brutal momentum on my vet

tears through enemies

[cyan notch]

theyre talking about rapier

[mint heart]

For me it's like
4 = Horde clear strong, rest medium
5 = Horde clear medium, rest strong

which works with
Surge = Horde poor, rest strong
Purgatus = Horde strong, rest medium

2 I really can't tell it's kinda weird

[uncut hamlet]

o

[robust meteor]

i have maybe 100ish hours with the 5 and i still manage to dodge off of cliffs once in a while

the range is just so big

[mint heart]

^
yeah that happend to me too

It's almost too much dodge range lol

[uncut hamlet]

Trauma always strong :)

[mint heart]

Gonna put the FS on hold. Playing all day to get this shit on my slaughter FS in the end isn't worth it.

[robust meteor]

if ogryn used trauma staff would he stagger himself

[mint heart]

Yeah I do like that one too, but getting one to roll mobility dump stat and brutal momentum seems impossible.

For me at least

[uncut hamlet]

an okay one with good damage and pen is usually enough

dont need a god roll immediately, but brutal momentum is absolutely fantastic i agree

very hard to use it in hordes without

[mint heart]

That's the best one I got on 4 characters over 300h

[uncut hamlet]

its okay, ive seen worse

lemme see if i can find mine hold up

[mint heart]

Yeah

[old crystal]

What is everyone's preferred melee weapon for psyker?

[mint heart]

Fairly lucky on other chars but my main is suffering

[warped perch]

I’m using force sword mainly for the block and the charge attack kills specials easily

Downside is you have to get close

[uncut hamlet]

I upgraded this one to purple so far

havent played in a couple days

[warped perch]

Hi sodium

[uncut hamlet]

whats up

[old crystal]

That might be my ideal, because the only time I panic is when I'm face to face with a ravager.

[warped perch]

Just chillin like a villain

[uncut hamlet]

the force push woks great on ragers

[mint heart]

The force push against them is great

[warped perch]

I haven’t tried many other melee weapons on psyker so I can’t comment on a lot

I love the axes on my zealot

[old crystal]

I've been playing an ogryn to level 30 and I decided to try out the psyker.

[uncut hamlet]

i use fs because any plebian can use an axe or normal sword

[warped perch]

YAAAS welcome

[uncut hamlet]

but only incomparable minds can use fs

[warped perch]

Psykers are cool af

[warped perch]

😌

[old crystal]

I've been using a voidstrike staff. Feels so good to just punch a hole through a horde.

[uncut hamlet]

Purge feels great too

can kill most things in a full charge

[old crystal]

Purge, is that the flame staff?

[uncut hamlet]

yea

[old crystal]

Nice.

I can't wrap my head around why fatshark went backwards with the game design. They modeled this game after Vermintide 1 instead of Vermintide 2.

[uncut hamlet]

fr

[old crystal]

I hate waiting for a weapon in a shop vs. farming mats to make it.

[magic burrow]

do you guys know what the green icons under some of the missions in the mission hub mean?

[mint heart]

The difficulty you completed them on

[magic burrow]

ahhh, that's useful to know

[mint heart]

If I'm not mistaken

[fringe lodge]

is force sword with deflector bis over all other options? at least seems like so

[mint heart]

no

[fringe lodge]

you get gibbed by ranged otherwise

[mint heart]

dodge and slide to survive

But yes it is BiS if you want more defence

[timber shale]

Not at all. It’s good but so are other options. People are highly overvaluing deflector.

[half iron]

so true bestie

[dusk meteor]

its dueling sword or die my sibling

[bright raft]

wat canges should I make smart psyks?

[leaden pier]

get block efficiency i guess

[bright raft]

roger that

[old crystal]

You can choose?

[bright raft]

Can roll one of the perks

[old crystal]

Oh..."get block efficiency" confused me.

[long wharf]

force sword with deflector still doesn't give you more than two seconds on against a firing line of gunners on heresy+

[old crystal]

Hmmm...purge staff is tough. Doesn't feel as strong as the voidstrike,

[karmic quail]

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA THE DARK SIDE FLOWS THROUGH ME

Can crit rate/damage roll as a perk on surge?

[bleak tulip]

there is psyker classes near done, this person just didnt do their research

[long wharf]

I wouldn't bother

[karmic quail]

Why? Is crit awful on surge?

[long wharf]

it already has higher crit than the other staves, and it's crit damage isn't great anyways

[karmic quail]

What? It's crit damage is 130 points higher

[bleak tulip]

just for visualization

[vagrant cedar]

damn

and here purge has basic 5

[karmic quail]

So my base crit is 25% currently

[steel flame]

thank god, finally, a half decent deflector sword

[bleak tulip]

but only half

[steel flame]

its better than what i have now

[bleak tulip]

why do you do this to yourself

[coral steeple]

good?

[bleak tulip]

feelsbad finesse roll

[steel flame]

that is heartbreaking

almost perfect

[long wharf]

I mean, it's not a combat axe, so.

[bleak tulip]

I just wish people would shut up about the fuckin axe lmfao

[steel flame]

BUT BUT BUT THE PUSH ATTACK

😛

[karmic quail]

Whats the deal with the axe? Which axe?

[steel flame]

antax combat axe has stupid good cleave on its push attack

[karmic quail]

People aren't using the force sword?

[bleak tulip]

people are

[long wharf]

I wish people would use the combat axe more

[simple junco]

Nah, knife supremacy

[bleak tulip]

why, so everyone can use a one button combo?

[kindred sphinx]

u need lvl 30 and crit stuff on purge

[vagrant cedar]

i feel like axe is good at diff 4, at diff 5 you kinda forced to use FS if you play with randoms

[long wharf]

totally wrong

[bleak tulip]

caxe "meta" is legit the most boring melee weapon I have ever used

[long wharf]

the axe isn't for the same purpose as the force sword

fsword sucks at fighting the horde

caxe excels at fighting the horde

[vagrant cedar]

yes but you get fucked at diff 5 from ranged mobs

[simple junco]

That's a pretty good roll. I'd trade backstab for the crit on special tho

[bleak tulip]

dont stand where they can see you

[long wharf]

fsword is good at killing elites, whereas the caxe is decent at killing elites

[bleak tulip]

you dont need deflector to play the game

[simple junco]

Deflector is good, but yeah. You don't really need it.

[vagrant cedar]

yes but then it takes ages to clear the pack

[bleak tulip]

just fuckin shoot em lmao

[vagrant cedar]

you got a gun on diff 5 and not a staff?

[simple junco]

Laughs in purgatus

[vagrant cedar]

o_O

[bleak tulip]

staves can shoot, smartass

look at my fuckin name

[vagrant cedar]

idk i use purge

[bleak tulip]

you think I use guns

[simple junco]

Voidstrike is just slang for Kantrael MG XII

[dreamy mural]

should i buy it or not good ?

[bleak tulip]

can you even hit three enemies at once with a DS?

lol

like, probably but is that a thing you do a lot

I dont use it

[karmic quail]

I just really really hate that the most efficient way to vent is to switch to a muggle weapon :/

[ruby chasm]

With the push attack I think you can

[dreamy mural]

unless its cleave damage DS ?

[bleak tulip]

just active vent on a staff takes like two seconds

[karmic quail]

Or I could swap to my muggle blade kill for a few seconds then switch back

[bleak tulip]

or just dodge dance with the FS while quelling

[simple junco]

If I'm running purg, I literally only use knife as a mobility tool to get into position. It's great as a melee weapon in a pinch but I don't really need it to quell lol.

[karmic quail]

Then it's quelling for you naturally every time you pull it out. By the time I've repositioned, I'm usually quelled

[bleak tulip]

if you just wanna quell while running you can just use a book or medkit too

[simple junco]

I uh, typically don't have it out for more than a second or two. Gotta put flame down somehow.

[dreamy mural]

not really use it, think i will pass but this is my first time see melk shop sell base stat 370 above after 220 hours of game play.

[bleak tulip]

like, there is so many ways to quell that you dont need to waste time slapping one dude with a DS like a wet noodle to feel like youre efficient

[karmic quail]

https://tenor.com/view/sanic-the-hedgehob-running-gotta-go-fast-fast-gif-4964355

[shadow wigeon]

Knife is also my favourite with purge

[leaden nest]

aight just starting psyker, ds? fs? 🙂

need to learn the pro gamer moves

[subtle linden]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914161923334214/1057465403359629374/Screenshot_20221217-1616132.png

Damn psyker memes are weak

Compared to ogryn memes

[bleak tulip]

we're too busy being in a permanent state of despair and cope

[old crystal]

Purge staff fuckin' sucks

[subtle linden]

It’s okay bro my 200 base white boltgun alt char vet can booty clap heresy the moment I hit like trust 15 to unlock it

[old crystal]

A lot of fun making a horde glow blue while they beat the shit out of me.

[magic hull]

you take that back you little bitch

im about to roast your ass

[old crystal]

Nah.

[subtle linden]

Lightning ⛈️

[old crystal]

No range. It's shit compared to voidstrike.

[magic hull]

skill issue

cope

[old crystal]

Hahahahaha

[subtle linden]

Purgatus reminds me of that trash movie by m night shatupon

The one with the arrowhead kid

Magical wind farts

[old crystal]

Lol

[nimble burrow]

I’m throwing icy-hot in your general direction

[magic hull]

here i made one just for you, psykers mood:

[nimble burrow]

It’s my favorite kind of garbage

[old crystal]

The time to kill even trash mobs is laughable.

[nimble burrow]

But the trash mobs are spider-man’d the whole time who cares about kill time

[old crystal]

Meanwhile, voidstrike has no range limit, and instagibs whole hordes in one hit.

[magic hull]

jokes on u I have a good purga stick im good w it

fun n games until u see b0ss tho

*slaps on stick
check this bad boy out, he can inflict horde damage.

[weary idol]

except that purgatus also kills elites like maulers and ragers while voidstrike kinda doesn't

and in higher difficulties those guys are literally everywhere and every horde will have a handful of them peppered in

[magic hull]

yeah but lasgun better tho

[weary idol]

lasgun is better but this ain't about them

[old crystal]

I didn't feel like I was killing elites in good time with it. I'll try it again later maybe.

[timber valley]

voidstrike perma staggers a lot of the elites/specials

[magic hull]

above average purgatus < average surge & void

[timber valley]

so they still die

[magic hull]

max purg > surge

void still top dog tho

[weary idol]

except voidstrike doesn't go through elites or specials so it can't clear the horde if one is in the way

it's a good staff, it's not good against elites

[magic hull]

probably stagger i reckon

[weary idol]

or well the scary elites

you can sure kill gunners and shotgunners with it

[timber valley]

you can perma stagger the elite while killing/ccing everything in an aoe around the staggered elite

[magic hull]

carapace ignore soulblaze

[timber valley]

and it's perma stagger with weakshot hit

because you don't gain any peril

[magic hull]

well kinda

[weary idol]

yeah you can do that to one of them maybe

[old crystal]

I'm still new to psyker, why are there so many guns? Are they really comparable to a staff/force sword?

[weary idol]

i'd argue a fair few guns are better than staves

[magic hull]

they just meta bro

[long wharf]

no

[weary idol]

just because most staves are support oriented and that doesn't help as much as outright killing things

also combat axe is best psyker melee by far

[long wharf]

in fact, psyker needs to have less guns polluting its ranged pool

[magic hull]

I recommend u use revolver

[simple junco]

The store just hates us.

[timber valley]

you can actually cc like 2 separate locations at a time even if they are a distance away from each other, just swap in between the two, you just animation cancel m2

[old crystal]

Yeah, I see a dozen guns in the shop, no staves, and 2 swords.

[weary idol]

force sword is kinda shit imo

[magic hull]

nah

[weary idol]

it has loads of utility but horrible damage output

[simple junco]

Depends on what you need

[weary idol]

literally cannot one shot a poxwalker

[long wharf]

force sword is in a weird position

[weary idol]

all of its damage is located in the activation

[lethal folio]

Few things can with lights.

[weary idol]

and everything else is worthless

[old crystal]

I use the force push block to get me away from ragers

[magic hull]

its a good passive weapon

[weary idol]

no force sword heavies do a max of what 280 or something on headshot?

[magic hull]

not for damage output

[weary idol]

poxwalkers on damnation have 300 health

[long wharf]

you shouldn't be trying to attack a poxburster anyways

oh, you said poxwalker

[olive ember]

do we have any idea when next patch btw

[long wharf]

nope

[olive ember]

rip

[weary idol]

force sword is good for a few things

[simple junco]

Expect after the first week of the new year

[weary idol]

can one shot damnation maulers with the activation which is great, and 2 shot crushers

[olive ember]

welp back to making my 3rd character for elden ring

[long wharf]

but FartShart did say crafting system would be in by end of december

so any day now!

/s

[weary idol]

the push pushes everything around you, and deflector is an actual godsend for saving teammates

[true shadow]

free stunlocking and instant kills on maulers is pretty high utility

[simple junco]

True, so is setting them on fire

Depends on what you need

[true shadow]

i mean just with the force sword

[long wharf]

heavy axe swing into mauler's head works wonders, too

[true shadow]

free stunlock 360 degree, block ranged, instant kill maulers

force sword is my baby

[weary idol]

but the problem is that a lot of force swords utility can also be done by the chainsword and combat axe

that both suffer significantly less in the damage department

[long wharf]

every time I use fsword, I miss my caxe

[true shadow]

the instant kills maybe but not the full 360 stunlock

which is extremely useful in a lot of cases

[bleak tulip]

FS light three literally one shots to the head of all shooters on damnation...

[weary idol]

the only real unique thing that force sword has over any other weapon is deflector

[bleak tulip]

also FS can roll slaughterer

[true shadow]

deflector and peril blocking combo are also absolutely hilarious

[cyan notch]

the force push is great

[bleak tulip]

I swear to fuck most people use FS once when they get it, it doesnt do the damage they would like to see, they dont like the fact that its lacking cleave and they never touch it again or something lol

some of these takes

[true shadow]

i cannot stress enough how absolutely useful a free constant aoe stunlock and a push that downs maulers and ragers mid attack is

[olive ember]

I mean FS deflector is all it really needs to stand out tbh

[bleak tulip]

me when I stand between three scab shotgunners

[true shadow]

a push that can stagger crushers and a special that 2hits consistently on damnation crushers

[olive ember]

legit reviving while getting shot in the back is amazing

[true shadow]

deflector and peril blocking basically make the psyker a tank and the real tank class isn't even ingame yet

force sword is based.

[lethal folio]

The big problem with forcesword is it hurts to use with staves as you have no fast quell leak weapon.

And then your toughness sustain dies.

[cyan notch]

not really

[true shadow]

not really

[cyan notch]

you dont really need instant 100-0 when using melee

[olive ember]

From my experience the faster quell is only really needed when you are tanking daemonhost

other wise you can basically just infinitely stall with a combination of blocking and push spamming

[true shadow]

don't forget diagonal dodges

[bleak tulip]

or just dodge dancing while active quelling with FS

its not fast but its free quelling

[olive ember]

a combination of all 3 always nice

and it feels like a funny dance in a sense

[bleak tulip]

or just use a void with transfer and never worry about peril again as long as theres enemies

[olive ember]

as opposed to "hold right click spam left click"

kek

[true shadow]

daemon host tanking is excruciatingly simple with diagonal dodges

[simple junco]

Hoooly shit just did a T5 and there were immediately 9 maulers

I've never seen them so dense before

[hollow steeple]

I see how in practice quelling with infinite dodge sounds neat
but also I never feel like I would dare risking quelling while shit is swing at my face

[olive ember]

could be worse

like the triple sniper firing in volleys

[simple junco]

If there's a horde too? Yeah that sucks

Running KB to alleviate sniper nightmares too lol

[bleak tulip]

unless its a lot of shit you can even just backdodge with staff long enough to go to 0 before you run out of dodges

[weary idol]

man I really want to be able to reroll blessings already

[scarlet rampart]

You guys having really long load times and just sudden crashes with being unable to reconnect to your mission?

[weary idol]

blessins are so important on some weapons

because specific ones are just so much stronger than the others

decimator

uncanny strike

bloodthirsty

[olive ember]

deflector

[simple junco]

Bloodthirsty just seems good on everything

[olive ember]

ik on FS you want deflector and slaughterer imo

[hollow steeple]

oh yeah, definitely, but I rarely have the staff out when stuff is directly in my face and I want to quell

[weary idol]

deflector is basically mandatory to make force sword worth using

[simple junco]

Depends on what primary you're running

[bleak tulip]

that is one of the worst takes I have ever heard

[small hornet]

Just don't get shot and you don't need deflector

tf

Yea, that's a bad take

[weary idol]

I mean because force sword has nothing it does better than other weapons unless it has deflector

[bleak tulip]

deflector is certainly nice to have and strong but you dont need it at all

[small hornet]

Deflector is good if you intend on BEING A PSYKER WHO WANTS TO RUN INTO A HORDE OF GUN BOIZ

I just zap them

[cyan notch]

push/push attack/special

[weary idol]

or god forbid do the thing psyker is really good at and support your team

[small hornet]

dont need deflector if you just zap em

[weary idol]

people go down constantly because they suck

deflector force sword makes revives free at any point

and that's the only thing it has that no other weapon can do comparably or better without the dogshit fs damage

[simple junco]

Hi int T5 life be like

[bleak tulip]

its got a more single target moveset than chainsword, which is the only other psyker weapon with slaughterer, everything else de facto does less damage because they dont have slaughterer

[long wharf]

this is only true on Malice-

[cyan notch]

not really

[long wharf]

on Heresy+, it's not hard for 5 gunner mobs to push your peril up into critical in a second or two and then down you

[weary idol]

last I recall gunners hesitate to shoot through hordes

[bleak tulip]

hot take: if you gotta use deflector youre already out of position

[simple junco]

Exactly. The difference between a T3 to a T5 player is positioning, ironically.

[weary idol]

or god forbid you can be using the staves all of which are quite capable of killing elites

or a gun

[cyan notch]

sometimes u cant carry the mission on your own and you need your teammates alive

[bleak tulip]

oh yeah and to add to the list of things FS has: infinite dodges

you can literally kite shit forever

[timber shale]

you're giving the credit to deflector when its the kinetic deflection feat doing the work

[long wharf]

if you're using a gun as a psyker, then you aren't doing the team support stuff a psyker can do

better off playing a vet, then you can really use a gun

[weary idol]

vet doesn't give everyone shorter ability cooldowns on elite kill

or +10% damage against all elites

[long wharf]

vets don't need it

seriously.

[weary idol]

or +15% damage against big targets

[long wharf]

even on damnation

[weary idol]

or peril blocking revives

[gilded tartan]

I mean using a gun on psyker just changes the sub-focus… it’s not that bad tbh

[weary idol]

especially with recon lasguns

i've been liked the VID on damnation

[simple junco]

Being able to see things through walls does help me, the psyker

[weary idol]

anything it doesn't kill can be brain bursted, or it's somebody elses problem

[ornate hamlet]

Psykers really dont have great CC options for melee so going gun psyker is questionable at best unless your team is doing really, really good work at CC

[weary idol]

and it chews through gunners/shotgunners/ragers

[ornate hamlet]

Kind of just makes you a jackass unless playing with a premade group

[weary idol]

trauma staff is also great

[simple junco]

Psykers do have a pretty good CC option as a primary though

Which is kinda our thing

[weary idol]

yeah i'm a jackass for daring to choose a gun that gives me the ability to also kill elites

[long wharf]

you can chew through more of those as a vet, and more easily

and more often

[gilded tartan]

The moment surge staff is buffed and the range of the strike and void staff is buffed too, I’m not calling psyker feasibly cc

[long wharf]

the question isn't "can a psyker with a recon lasgun kill things"

[gilded tartan]

The surge staff sucks even tho it’s the best rn

[simple junco]

If surge's range is buffed, it's gonna be hard to argue against it

[long wharf]

it's "can a psyker using a gun bring enough to the table to justify not being a vet"

[simple junco]

Rn it's okay at best

[ornate hamlet]

Voidstrike not having range? What?

[long wharf]

and the answer is a hard "no"

[ornate hamlet]

Do we have the same staves in our games

[cyan notch]

best is subjective they all do different things

[gilded tartan]

Which one does the floor explosion

[lethal folio]

Trauma

[copper raft]

trauma

[ornate hamlet]

Yeah

[long wharf]

blurg trauma

[gilded tartan]

Yeah that needs more air

Aoe*

[weary idol]

trauma is odd

honestly only buff it needs is a smidge lower peril gen

it makes it aggravating to use sometimes

[ornate hamlet]

Voidstrike and purgatus are incredible for crowd clear but trauma's a bit dumpy yeah

[weary idol]

but it's far from bad

[long wharf]

trauma needs less peril buildup, less peril cost, wider AoE, wider starting AoE

[gilded tartan]

I think peril needs a rework

[lethal folio]

Trauma needs a template showing the actual explosion radius, and the template to be where you aim and not far below.

[long wharf]

the biggest issue with Trauma is that the targeting isn't as intuitive as point-n-click other staves

[gilded tartan]

So many feats are a bit situational af

[ornate hamlet]

Best for throwing off dogs and ragers/maulers but its true that its the weakest of the bunch

[lucid mortar]

I've been rolling for 5% health on a curio for 15 minutes now, lol. This is some amazing RNG

[weary idol]

Trauma takes a lot of getting used to

which thank god I already got plenty of practice using conflagration in VT2

or else this thing would be actual dogshit to use

[bleak tulip]

sometimes you just gotta take 4 and return later

[weary idol]

it's a strong staff, but genuinely difficult to get used to imo

[bleak tulip]

also if youre rolling 2 perks often get a different curio, it just makes rng harder because the curio is too low rating

[long wharf]

hah, coin shop is trolling me now

[ornate hamlet]

+1 stamina and practically no quell speed

[hollow steeple]

i'd buy that

[bleak tulip]

no quelling on the most peril intensive staff

damn son

[long wharf]

yep, painful

I bought it anyways

[true shadow]

lool

[hollow steeple]

quell speed is basically a dump stat, because it's still really quick even when it's a low %

[bleak tulip]

I mean, you still want it though
you can dump stat quell on void because you should have transfer anyway but on trauma? you are spending so much time

[mint heart]

I used my melee for quell and ult when playing trauma

Felt like a not 90% in my hand staff but kinda 50/50

[simple junco]

On a good void staff, nah. Good purg staff? Nah. Maybe quell is more important for trauma/surge?

[cyan notch]

yea the uptime is low with trauma

[bleak tulip]

its like what, two full right clicks and youre at 90 with trauma?

that shit stinks

[karmic quail]

These are trash rolls right?

[hollow steeple]

I'd need to test it to see how much slower low quell speed is from 100->0
but I can't imagine it's more than a second

[mint heart]

you can do 3-5 depending on charges and inner tranq

Full chagred

[long wharf]

not at all

not great, but you have the high values where you want them

should be very usable

[karmic quail]

Cloud radius isn't super important?

[weary idol]

trauma uptime can be good but it takes a fair bit of muscle memory

[dense cloud]

im sad i just got a trash 380 bse heavy sword on my zealot T_T i want ed it to be on my psycher T_T

[weary idol]

at ~85% peril you can get a max charge if you have the timing down perfectly

[ornate hamlet]

If you reroll the perk it would be better but the base stats are great and warp nexus isnt bad by any means

[long wharf]

the difference between 60 and 80 isn't great

[weary idol]

varies depending on your bars obviously

[mint heart]

What would be strong blessings for trauma?

[weary idol]

but quell into full charge repeatedly can spamm trauma staff quite a bit

[long wharf]

warp nexus is the blessing to have on purge right now

https://tenor.com/view/so-hot-right-now-trending-meme-zoolander-this-is-epic-gif-26091622

[cyan notch]

psykers dont have heavy swords

[dense cloud]

im taling about base 380 item lol thatwas my first justy now _T

[bleak tulip]

I dont think there are any tbh

[cyan notch]

rending one and flurry i suppose

[bleak tulip]

a bunch of them dont work with right click

[long wharf]

why not warp nexus?

[bleak tulip]

yeah rending is probably the best

[long wharf]

trauma is all about damage

get that crit up

[weary idol]

trauma is a CC staff just like surge

[cyan notch]

it crits pretty bad

[weary idol]

much better way to look at it

[long wharf]

you're already running high peril with trauma, take advantage of it

are the crits garbage?

[bleak tulip]

10% every time you get a right click off? thats not very good

[cyan notch]

yea its like 15%

[long wharf]

well then, that shit needs addressing

[bleak tulip]

trauma has base crit

[weary idol]

ngl damage is a super dump stat on trauma

[long wharf]

yet another reason to not use trauma

[weary idol]

even low damage rolls, you only need just enough to one shot poxwalkers and aside from that it doesn't matter

cause the main appeal is the long knockdowns

[mint heart]

I think any of those are ok.

Focused Channeling
Terrifying Barrage
Warp Flurry

If transfer peril worked with the secondary it would be really nice

Maybe make it even good compared to the other staffs

[long wharf]

you'd have to hit weak spots, which trauma can't do

[bleak tulip]

focused channeling is a meme, if you get hit while right clicking you havent realized you can still dodge while charging

[long wharf]

AoEs don't hit weakspots

[cyan notch]

channeling might be good so u dont waste 50 peril when u get hit

[mint heart]

yeah thats the problem

[long wharf]

you know, turning the trauma staff into a debuff machine may not be a bad idea

make it naturally rend/break armor

as well as knockdown

[simple junco]

Huh, running HI INT T5 with 2 ogryns and a zealot is interesting. Had to sacrifice myself to BB 2 reapers to death beause they spawned behind us during a beast of nurgle encounter

[bleak tulip]

problem is its rend, not brittle

[weary idol]

brittleness would be nice to have on it

[bleak tulip]

so how do you do the follow up damage

[long wharf]

and suddenly it'd be great for bosses

[cyan notch]

huh does rending/brittleness apply to slug and shrek?

[long wharf]

shrek is life

so, doubtful

[ancient pendant]

So whats the opinion around here on what the best Staff Blessings/Perks are?

[simple junco]

We're actually still finding out new combinations

[cyan notch]

depends on the staff in question

[long wharf]

you'd think the people behind the gameslantern site would datamine for their info

I'm surprised to see it missing info

[ancient pendant]

Lets say uhhh Surge and or Voidstrike?

[bleak tulip]

I mean darkmass has shit thats wrong too and they are the ones that are meant to be datamining for it

[mint heart]

nvm lol, rending doesn't work

[weary idol]

honestly it's probably because it says +1 or +2

when rending is normally percentage based

[cyan notch]

i tested with +2 rending with and without it was pretty absymal

[weary idol]

so rending may have been reworked at some point and the blessing literally doesn't work because of it

[ancient pendant]

This worth upgrading?

[cyan notch]

it was like 5% increase maybe not even

[mint heart]

tested it again with this one the damage is the same, rending doesn't seem to work. gg

[bleak tulip]

yes but no, surge staves dont really get better because their whole purpose is the stun

[cyan notch]

on crushers?

[bleak tulip]

oh and the charge rate is kinda bad

thats like the one thing you want on surge lol

[cyan notch]

why u just min charge most of the time

[mint heart]

Yep, no difference at all

[bleak tulip]

dont you wanna still do full charges for flak?

[mint heart]

like 6 damage because because of the 3% dmg difference on the bars

[bleak tulip]

well idk then I guess it doesnt matter either way

[ancient pendant]

So I guess upgrade?

[cyan notch]

depends on ur current surge

if ur rich in plasteel sure

[bleak tulip]

all I know is if omega sweatlords like jsat use a blue surge in damnation, it probably isnt worth upgrading

[cyan notch]

well ur just missing one blessing and perk so its not a big deal

[gilded tartan]

I wished refining the weapons didn’t replace the perks but improved them instead

[weary idol]

me improving my +unarmored damage because I can't replace it

[gilded tartan]

Whatever they did, they literally said “improve it by refining it”. But consecrate does that very thing

[mint heart]

Rending does work??? It is maximum useless it seems. Trauma secondary does already ignore armor it seems, so no change. Your primary attack does more damage after you bomb them for like 3-4 seconds. Great stuff.

You can do your sick combo of trauma and one melee attack for bonus damage.

[cyan notch]

how much more

[mint heart]

With the trauma I posted above from 15 dmg on crusher chest shot to 42

irrelevant dmg increase

[paper wagon]

Trauma and sick in the same sentence?

[wide heron]

They mean sick as in sickly clearly

[cyan notch]

lame

[mint heart]

Well ironically naturally. Rending shockwave seems to be ultra trash on trauma so no hidden meta here. lul

[weary idol]

if only rending shockwave was brittleness instead

[cyan notch]

i remember testing +2 and it seemed to work just not much increase

[mint heart]

Yeah that would change things. My melee goes from 50 to 83 after the blast. With only 4 rending if it was 8 brittleness with the same strength.

like 50-80% more dmg after trauma blast for whole team, would make this thing insanely good.

[mint heart]

Yeah it only works on the primary attack or weapon switch, there is no change in damage if I spam secondaries.

[simple junco]

Whew, okay. Running KB is absolutely the move for pubs when running purg

[cyan notch]

weird it worked on right click charge ill try it again

[deft oak]

Is this dagger worth 1.4k Milk Coin?

[mint heart]

Yeah maybe I'm doing something wrong.

[cyan notch]

nah

[long wharf]

no

almost nothing is worth buying from Sour Milk

[deft oak]

rip

[cyan notch]

except good blessings

[deft oak]

My brother saw a Force sword with +20% block and deflector, but his psyker was fresh level 30 and didn't have the coinage for it

[cyan notch]

melk?

[deft oak]

Yeah

[cyan notch]

rip

[long wharf]

true, if I Sour Milk is going to hand out Surge on void or Bloodthirsty on a fsword, I'll get those

[cyan notch]

same

hes gonna sell it

[long wharf]

honestly, FartShart needs to make everything Sour Milk gives you maxed rolls

there's no reason for gambling weekly currency on trash

[cyan notch]

no!!! we must have people camping the shop every hour

[long wharf]

peak gameplay.

[mint heart]

Does someone know what burning intensity mean on the purgatus?

[idle shuttle]

antax> FS

[long wharf]

that's a good question

[mint heart]

I don't think it affects the burn tick. I noticed if you keep flaming one target with your secondary there is like a direct damage tick which increases parallel to the burn tick.

Maybe it is that one?

[frozen hearth]

i tried playing psyker. emperor knows i tried. i spent most of the time just trying to pop heads and crying in Peril

[long wharf]

classic mistake, trying to use BB

[frozen hearth]

wahts bb

[bleak tulip]

your G

the zap

[frozen hearth]

ah

[bleak tulip]

its not your main weapon

most people make this mistake

[frozen hearth]

i was trying to keep my stacks up so i don't feel like a wet noodle

[lucid mortar]

I'm experimenting with having crouch and dodge on the same key, but it seems like it gimps sliding left and right - is there a way around this or do I just have to keep them on separate keys?

[long wharf]

you feel like a wet noodle even with full warp charges

don't worry about it

psyker isn't the glass cannon FartShart advertizes it as

[bleak tulip]

idk I feel plenty powerful

[magic burrow]

BB is useful to pick out little gunners poking their heads out from behind cover

[bleak tulip]

literally deleting a whole line of trash every shot isnt what I would call wet noodle

[frozen hearth]

at the very least, the early level options i have are underwhelming

[long wharf]

every time I think I feel powerful on my psyker, I jump onto my vet for a reality adjustment

[frozen hearth]

i came off of getting preacher to 30 so...

[bleak tulip]

yeah psyker doesnt get really good until kinda late into the levels unfortunately

and leveling zealot was a lot more fun overall

[frozen hearth]

all i needed to pop heads with a zealot is a knife

;-;/

[long wharf]

you went from meme knife zealot to a level 1 psyker

[bleak tulip]

you dont ever wanna use BB on anything that a zealot can one shot anyway

[magic burrow]

Ive been using knife as a psyker lately and its fun dodging around and stabbing people in the head

[frozen hearth]

its like i'm forced to play uprising

[bleak tulip]

BB is basically for armored shit, ogryns and maybe bombers when theyre already running

[fresh reef]

[long wharf]

FartShart needs to make it so that psykers start with a trauma staff

[bleak tulip]

probably

[frozen hearth]

trauma staff doesn't feel good. at least early levels

[long wharf]

it'll feel better than any gun you have access at those levels

[bleak tulip]

they wont because judging by the average shop they want gunpsyker to be a thing even thought it really kinda isnt

[cyan notch]

well zealot ult is pretty busted

[leaden pier]

isnt trauma staff the first staff you unlock or nah?

[magic burrow]

I though Voidstrike was the bomb until I started playing tier 4 and Voidstrike just stops deleting things. It was a pretty sad moment. Now I'm a purger

[frozen hearth]

i just want the palpatine staff

[bleak tulip]

trauma is probably the weakest staff

[bleak tulip]

skill issue tbh

[long wharf]

you have to get used to charging more

instead of spamming min-charged shots

[cyan notch]

it still deletes with very high uptime/low peril

[long wharf]

void is still plenty effective through damnation

[fresh reef]

trauma makes warp absorption go brrrr and makes my brain produce happy chemical

[bleak tulip]

I can one shot hordes on damnation with void on a half charge so I dont know what the fuck youre doing

but youre doing it wrong

[cyan notch]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046914150363844779/1054786746233147413/im_doing_my_part.mp4

[bleak tulip]

people do this huh

[long wharf]

talk about death from a thousand tickles

[magic burrow]

Hordes are irrelevant. Anything can deal with hordes. It's the little gunners that mess you up.

[bleak tulip]

I guess thats what happens when you give a surge pepega a void and tell him to play it

"whats charge"

[bleak tulip]

those also die to half charges

you just cant line em up like you can with hordes

[long wharf]

with void it's important to be aiming for weakspots

[cyan notch]

hordes arent irrelevant they take up your time that you could be spending dealing with higher threat targets

[bleak tulip]

you can also left click heads with void if youre a gamer

(or you quell cancel to make it more usable because void bolt delay is hell )

each of those does more damage than a min charge right click

[magic burrow]

Left click bolts dont really work properly. They go all over the place.

[bleak tulip]

its because they inherit your momentum

[magic burrow]

unless they fixed that

[bleak tulip]

no, I hope by the time they fix quell canceling they at least fix that

ideally also the delay

then you could actually use this the way its intended

[magic burrow]

no, its because theyre server side. They go where you were aiming a split second ago due to lag.

[bleak tulip]

if that were the case right clicks would do that too

but they dont

[magic burrow]

you dont notice it in the meatgrinder because thats hosted locally

[bleak tulip]

you can still notice it in the meat grinder

[long wharf]

nope, wrong, go test in the meat grinder

they're the only projectile in the game we can fire on any class that takes on the player's velocity

[bleak tulip]

sure, the extra latency in a real match doesnt help, but its not the core issue

said it before and I'll say it again, once they fix the left click on the staves that have it people will finally realize how powerful they are

because they are quite good if you could reliably hit them like you could anything else in this game

including void right clicks

I wanna say void right click is even about the same speed so its not even the slow projectile speed

[orchid nest]

the left clicks have decent suppression too. hopefully they change dregs

[bleak tulip]

I just wish right click had any suppression at all too

at least on the explosion to make that worth a damn

[orchid nest]

even as it is right now I always help with shooters on left clicks with surge that are far away or dregs

but yeah it will be awesome if they fix them

[simple junco]

Apparently everyone's running purgatus in T5

Time to switch to Void lol

[night marten]

sounds like we just need to buff staff damage across the board tbh

[simple junco]

Eh, more like "please don't matchmake me with 3 flamers"

[night marten]

or for purge, at least make early soulblaze stacks mean something

[mint heart]

@long wharf What would be your ideal purge staff? What's the dump stat?

[long wharf]

I'll show you after this is done

[night marten]

this baby

[simple junco]

Just had 3 T5s in a row with either no ranged or 3 flamers. If I wasn't running KB I'm not sure we would've made it lol

Absolutely peak darktide

[fluid pendant]

I’ve switched to void full time. At T4+ people can deal with hordes and it’s the ranged and armored guys that give everyone trouble

[cyan notch]

i was doing this but really dont like doing 0 damage to bosses

[simple junco]

Yeahhh, was running purg when it was rare to see. Now that everyone's on board there's a ton of overlap.

Plus yeah, a good zealot can definitely hold the line

[magic burrow]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/z9f70e/inconsistent_aim_with_psyker_staff_primary_fire/
had to look for a bit, but here's a video showing what's wrong with the staff primary bolt. First it shows the meatgrinder, where it works fine. Then it shows how it behaves in a map, where the bolt lags and goes where you were aiming a split second before. If you're a bit of a twitchy aimer, this makes it almost impossible to hit anything with the primary bolt.

[mint heart]

Got these at the moment. The orange one is my main staff pretty much. Just read the posts about crit and soulblaze.

[copper raft]

i learned that's not just an issue with the staff as well. on the veteran if you throw your grenade you have similar inconsistencies

[simple junco]

3 looks pretty cash money.

[night marten]

think the middle one is the best honestly

[copper raft]

there's something weird with the meatgrinder for sure

[simple junco]

Yeah 2 and 3 are gr9

[night marten]

if you use an FS anyway. the staff quell speed comes in handy

if not, probably 3.

[mint heart]

Second perk crit obviously what would be the other perk?

[night marten]

flurry is good by the numbers (though bugged unless it was fixed today). honestly I would recommend focused casting or whatever

the one that makes secondary uninterruptible. really useful on purge in particular

especially when shit is hitting the fan

getting that secondary off can make or break you

[magic burrow]

Because it's hosted locally

[copper raft]

is it actually? don't know why that surprises me so much

[mint heart]

Warp res difference is below 1% for secondary and primary attack. Is cloud radius a big deal?

[night marten]

doesn't really matter tbh

just need the crit chance

[magic burrow]

you can use left click to make some room and then charge the secondary. Uninteruptable cast isn't really needed on the purge staff.

[night marten]

sounds great on paper, but when you're surrounded a couple lmb's aren't going to do it

I hear what you're saying though

[mighty fractal]

I’m guessing that kills with the purg’s soulblaze dot don’t proc terrifying barrage

[mint heart]

lmb difference is 0,27% lul. Don't think that I will ever cast that many for this to matter.

Didn't think myself warp res is so bad lol

[mighty fractal]

Since burn technically counts as a separate entity, if burn in vt2 is anything to go by

[orchid nest]

I don't run purg but I hate when team mates are trying to melee horde when the purg/flamer user is overrun. just peel for them and the horde will be gone

[mighty fractal]

Speaking of which, do psyker and zealot burns overwrite each other?

That was a problem in vermintide

[mint heart]

thanks for the input 👍

[mighty fractal]

Where incendiary bombs would overwrite sienna’s own burns

[cyan notch]

nobody knows

cuz hard as hell to test anything

[mighty fractal]

and sienna players would get very upset if you didn’t give them the fire bombs

Yeah unfortunately

[simple junco]

We've tested a ton with the limited tools we have

But yeah... We kinda need more to learn anything else

[cyan notch]

fire mages get the fire bombs sorry those are the rules

[long wharf]

okay

[magic burrow]

a purge psyker and a flamer zealot should create green fire together. Would be neat.

[bleak tulip]

there is private matches available, be the change you wanna see in the world

go test it

one takes purge, one takes zealot flamer

see which effect stays

[long wharf]

you can see enemies have both burn and soulblaze

[bleak tulip]

hope that the visual effect changes and is representative of the dot thats on it

[mighty fractal]

Visually, it kinda does create greenish fire

[long wharf]

they're two distinct dots

[mighty fractal]

Yeah

[simple junco]

They visually have both, but yeah it would be pretty good to verify

[mighty fractal]

We just don’t know if the dots overwrite each other since yeah, burns from different players would overwrite in vermintide

[long wharf]

problem is, that flamer is going to delete enemies long before you have a chance to build up an appreciable number of soulblaze stacks

[bleak tulip]

you can even dose both the flamer and the purg easily with left clicks, test how fast something dies with say 4 puffs or however much it might take to actually kill anything and then do two puffs each

[long wharf]

this staff, but with warp nexus instead of warp flurry

[magic burrow]

though that begs the question, if you have two purge psykers together, do their soulblaze stacks stack, and if it kills someone then who gets the credit

[cyan notch]

nice on bosses tho

[long wharf]

if at some point we get to put blazing spirit on it, swap out terrifying barrage for blazing spirit

[bleak tulip]

afaik soulblaze doesnt stack between players, I think someone actually tested that

but you can get AB charges from another player using a purg iirc

[long wharf]

yeah, each player has their own distinct stacks of soulblaze

[long wharf]

I haven't seen a good test of this yet

[magic burrow]

shame. It would be neat to create some insane soulblaze stacks on a boss or something

[bleak tulip]

so yeah, zealot and psyker flame testing should be relatively easy either way

[magic burrow]

with four purge psykers

[long wharf]

soulblaze stacks are limited by the source of the soulblaze

[bleak tulip]

just need two scientifically minded folks

[mint heart]

Did you notice a difference with unyielding? Thanks for posting.

[long wharf]

blazing spirit has its own stacks, purge staff has its own stacks

[thick carbon]

guys, I.. I have a confession to make...

[long wharf]

my purge staff actually does decent damage to reapers in the meat grinder

because of that +25% unyielding enemies perk

[mint heart]

Are you just burning bosses with it too?

[bleak tulip]

why else would you take unyielding

[long wharf]

nah, bosses don't take appreciable damage from soulblaze

[bleak tulip]

then they the hell are you taking unyielding

[long wharf]

because ogryns and mutants are unyielding?

[bleak tulip]

mutants arent

[long wharf]

also, the other perk that I rolled off was +1 stamina

[bleak tulip]

theyre maniac

[magic burrow]

you'd want like damage vs flak, and then extra crit chance, right

[long wharf]

so that was an easy decision

[long wharf]

you'll notice I didn't roll the +unyielding

[mint heart]

gotcha, so pretty much stack crit crit and crit chance and take whatever best you can get for second perk.

[long wharf]

fair enough

[long wharf]

yes, purge is all about stacking soulblaze as fast as possible, and crits apply 2 stacks instead of 1

[magic hull]

time to reroll my purg perks so i can get crit chance

[bleak tulip]

now heres a question, I assume purg rmb rolls for crit every tick on every enemy?

[mint heart]

same

[bleak tulip]

because if it doesnt (like void) then crit is kinda poor

[mint heart]

Mongolian throatsinging simulator

[magic burrow]

https://puu.sh/Jv9EW/7f9a181f54.png

should I reroll infested to ranged crit chance?

[bleak tulip]

yeah

[simple junco]

Yeah

[long wharf]

no

[simple junco]

Flak and crit are great for purg

[long wharf]

every time you attack with purge, that attack rolls whether it's a crit or not

[bleak tulip]

flak is the most common armor category so its probably the best perk on all weapons

[mint heart]

That's what I would do

[bleak tulip]

thats tragic

[cyan notch]

im using this rn

[long wharf]

crit attacks then apply 2 soulblaze procs on enemies they hit

[long wharf]

keep in mind that you're "attacking" very quickly as you channel with purge

[simple junco]

F for warp nexus

[bleak tulip]

okay so it does check for each tick?

just not per enemy

[simple junco]

TF2 crits

[magic burrow]

yey

[bleak tulip]

right thats a lot better then

[long wharf]

a shame about the warp res, but otherwise a very good staff

[bleak tulip]

with void it literally just checks the projectile on release and whatever that projectile hits is a crit, purg technically shoots several bullets over the duration of right click so each of them roll independently

[mint heart]

I compared a bunch of warp res staffs, it seems to be a really bad stat compared to quell

[long wharf]

yep

warp res affects how much peril you build up while charging

more warp res means less peril build up which means more purging

[cyan notch]

warp res isnt that big a deal on purg

[night marten]

think it's just "crit applies an extra stack" since Burn is applying soulblaze stacks independently of the staff's direct damage ticks

[mint heart]

the difference from 60 to 80% is below 1% peril per primary and full charged secondary.

[long wharf]

are you sure?

[mint heart]

Seems like it

[magic burrow]

regarding the crit stacking blessing, does it mean it stacks up to that amount, or it stacks that amount five times?

[cyan notch]

only 5% from 0% to 100%

aka its whatever

[magic burrow]

figures

[magic hull]

damn bruh

[bleak tulip]

warp resist remains dump stat on just about anything

[magic burrow]

they could really do some work on the wording of these to make it clearer how they actually work

[bleak tulip]

nice

[cyan notch]

no i wasnt replying to you

i dont know how that works

[mint heart]

quell is a really big difference

[bleak tulip]

it stacks the number 5 times

[supple skiff]

https://prnt.sc/U7_lJiuP8w_0

pray for me, going for deflector

[bleak tulip]

either way thats a good sword

[cyan notch]

dont do it

the stats are so mid

[bleak tulip]

meh, first target is a shame but its fine

[long wharf]

go for bloodthirsty instead

[supple skiff]

fucking uncanny strike lol

[bleak tulip]

as if you could choose

[cyan notch]

im gonna go for hoping melk sells it

wish me luck

[supple skiff]

guys im starting to think the itemization in this game is kinda bad https://prnt.sc/At8e9nKkASWg

[cyan notch]

you should see mine

[magic burrow]

with deflector you become a god at picking up downed people, but for everything else it's kind of overrated IMO

[supple skiff]

https://prnt.sc/--a42Ovq1kEF

[magic burrow]

this man's a walking armory

[mint heart]

Are you like 24/7 in the shop lol

[bleak tulip]

look at all these blessings you can melt into something thats better one day

[cyan notch]

yes just as fatshark intended

[mint heart]

Fuck me

[cyan notch]

im playing how they want me to play

[bleak tulip]

fuck knows why

literally caught in the fomo trap

[magic burrow]

just get lucky lol

[bleak tulip]

pour one out

[mint heart]

Can't escape the fomo

[supple skiff]

https://prnt.sc/9jLvHjv13n-S going to throw a slaughterer on this from another one once fatshark gets it shit together

[cyan notch]

i dont really buy fs anymore tbh since i have deflector already

sometimes i do when i start coping that they will reduce upgrade costs

[supple skiff]

have a fs with one at tier 3

[bleak tulip]

might as well keep buying them for blessings so when the inevitable balance pass comes you have a stockpile

[magic hull]

my friend, i present to you

the god build

[magic burrow]

noice

[old crystal]

What's the quickest way to level up? I'm told that psykers and their weapons are best at higher levels, and I'm tired of looking at the shop window and not seeing anything I want. Just guns, guns, dueling swords, axes, pistols, etc.

[deft oak]

So, whats the god build for FS? Deflector and Slaughterer?

[magic burrow]

dont think Ive ever seen two tier 4 blessings on one weapon before

nice roll

[bleak tulip]

does barrage work well with purg at all, well as good as suppression can?

[magic hull]

emperor blessed

[supple skiff]

that doesnt get better at a higher level unfortunatly

[bleak tulip]

doesnt it already stagger everything it hits

[cyan notch]

i think it does i see a lot of dudes cowering whenever im flaming

[bleak tulip]

pretty much, bloodthirsty is neato too but its even more rare because it only rolls as a t4

[supple skiff]

but to answer your question: theres a big jump in xp rewards from tier 2 to 3, so run malice if you can

[magic hull]

no it doesnt, has to be direct hit

barage just makes that passive stagger a real thing for purga now

[deft oak]

Lmao. that sounds like something i want. Go figure.

[supple skiff]

do scripture bonuses but grimoires aren't worth the risk

[deft oak]

Can someone rate this goofy Antax i got from the emperor?

[magic hull]

imma go test out my toy real quick brb

[bleak tulip]

if you dont get "ignore hit mass" as the second blessing its severely worse afaik

[magic burrow]

Skip the trauma staff. It's the first staff that'll show up, but it's kind of awful. I forget what the gun's name was, but I enjoyed playing with the tiny SMG weapon until the good staves started popping up.

[deft oak]

ouch. I'm not gonna worry about this antax then lol

[cyan notch]

its not severely worse

its still very good for horde

[bleak tulip]

how many targets does it hit without that though

like 6?

like actually hit

[cyan notch]

instead of everything dies and youre untouchable its just everything dies a bit slower and youre untouchable

[old crystal]

The shredder autopistol?

[magic burrow]

yeah, thats the one

gun goes brrrt

[hot field]

how do you use weapon skin btw

[cyan notch]

i think 3? idk lol

[bleak tulip]

read the tooltips at the bottom of your screen

in the inventory

its c or v

dont remember

[hot field]

oh lmao I saw it

[bleak tulip]

I htink c is customization

[hot field]

ah force sword look much better

[magic hull]

Ok the purga deals slightly nicer damage on damnation

[long wharf]

where purge shines is on high difficulty horde clearing

to include the specials among the horde

[cyan notch]

and boss damage

[bleak tulip]

boss damage? thatd be news

[cyan notch]

yea bb does nothing on damnation

neither do any of the other staffs

[magic hull]

doable, passive damage. it just takes a while to stackup to a high burn damage

[bleak tulip]

well no shit but purg never seems to do shit to bosses on any difficulty either

[long wharf]

simply untrue

[magic hull]

cap

[magic burrow]

BB still takes out the annoying ranged gits

[magic hull]

there are faster ways to kill boss tho fr

[bleak tulip]

I mean I dont use purg so maybe theyre just using dogshit staves what do I know

every time I see a psyker just right click a slug I cry a little

because he thinks hes doing it

but he aint

[cyan notch]

do elaborate

[long wharf]

every staff can do its job on damnation

purge and void for hordes, surge for stunning and killing flak enemies

[cyan notch]

im talking about boss damage

[long wharf]

trauma for sitting in the corner and crying

[heady swan]

Guys, do warp charges buff team damage or just the psyker?

[bleak tulip]

just you

[leaden pier]

yea

does purge melt the beast like the flamer or nah?

[magic hull]

purg has to be good in order to be effective. above average purga won't really make significant damage on bosses

[long wharf]

no

[leaden pier]

never tried it

[cyan notch]

no but does way more than any other staff

[leaden pier]

ah alrighty

[magic burrow]

that's why they call it the Trauma staff

https://puu.sh/Jv9K0/4830a422b7.png

[cyan notch]

the others are garbage and you might as well use bb (which also does nothing)

[bleak tulip]

spam void bolts into the weak spot when you got literally nothing else to do

[long wharf]

you can always BB the boss

sometimes, that's all you can do

[magic burrow]

15% bonus damage to BB targets can be useful

the feat, I mean

for bosses

[cyan notch]

sure if you use that one

[bleak tulip]

still piddly damage

[long wharf]

an extra 150 damage

at max peril

[cyan notch]

its for others no

[magic hull]

it doesn't melt. it stacks damage over time. better the purge, the higher you stack passive damage so yeh. If u want instant killing and damage, just use bolt gun ez

[long wharf]

you're better off having more peril resist

[magic burrow]

just yell at the veteran to do his job. Taking out beasts of nurgle wasnt mentioned in my contract

[long wharf]

oh, I was thinking of the 5%~15% force damage based on peril

honestly, I never run the aura feat

[magic burrow]

or havea ogryn throw a box at the plague ogryns head idk

[fringe garden]

I dunno, purge generates peril so slowly that it's hard to quell enough for toughness

[cyan notch]

for malice bb is good enough at heresy your bb starts to tickle the boss at damnation you do like 2 pixels worth you might as well be just protecting your dps

[magic hull]

[bleak tulip]

now all you have to do is to sit and wait for like 20 second for things to die

great

[cyan notch]

half the video is loading i want a refund

[magic hull]

no dummy in an actually game i would be flaming them constantly, not do it twice and stop smh

[bleak tulip]

its called hyperbole

[magic hull]

[bleak tulip]

point is dots are shit in a game as fast as DT

and most of the damage you do with purg is still direct damage

[cyan notch]

but great for bosses

[bleak tulip]

is it?

[cyan notch]

yes if you stack it to max

[bleak tulip]

I still havent seen any dot get close to what a fuckin bolter and lasgun do

[magic hull]

yeah let me aimbot 200 enemies with my voidstrike

[cyan notch]

well yea but its the best option you have

[magic hull]

oh wait i can 360 with my purg nvm

[cyan notch]

its still respectable

[bleak tulip]

that much is true

[magic hull]

ngl this thing now shred im so happy to take it into gem

dis gonna be fun

[cyan notch]

what the hells gem

[fringe garden]

Purge is an AoE weapon that can do decent single target. Not much to complain about there

[bleak tulip]

what is this abhorrent zoomer talk

[magic hull]

ok boomer

jk

anyways im gonna try it out now see ya guys in a bit

[hot field]

Lmao

[mint heart]

Big Bully

[bleak tulip]

get off my damn lawn ya zoomers

use real people words

like rad

and gnarly

[magic burrow]

radical bro

cowabunga

[mint heart]

bazzinga

[cyan notch]

are you capping me rn

[bleak tulip]

shaka brah

[mint heart]

lel