psyker-class

[clear heath]

well dueling sword can get both

[sour stirrup]

I feel that you won't see it unless it becomes absolutely required to hit important breakpoints. And Lacerator does the same thing.

[crisp storm]

is force sword just too good that we're running it in most builds?

[clear heath]

Nah we're running force sword cause it's cool

[bleak tulip]

its shit like this why I would just buy every tier 3 blessing that might be good one day, blessings have to be getting a balance pass

they do the same thing but one is just better

[clear heath]

well crit chance is pretty different than crit damage/weakspot damage

[bleak tulip]

ah fuck me I cant read lmao

its 7 am shut up

man, 5% weak spot damage when you can jsut get 75% power instead

or this

[clear heath]

"on elite kill" lmao

that's fucked up

[bleak tulip]

I really hope that cant actually roll

on anything

[clear heath]

I've never actually seen it

[alpine portal]

EVER

[manic needle]

I have

Its bad

[alpine portal]

is crit on trauma good?

[cyan notch]

no

its like 15% extra damage

[bleak tulip]

trauma has the class base crit rate of 5%

[alpine portal]

so warp nexus is not a good blessing

[clear heath]

well, are there any good blessings for trauma?

[sour stirrup]

Soublaze on Crit and Rending on Secondary Charge.

[devout belfry]

Guys, this shoulder... ok?

[clear heath]

At least you could probably abuse warp nexus to get crit chance on your melee weapon

so thats something

[bleak tulip]

I mean nexus gives you 5% 4 times

[dense cloud]

use gun with

[bleak tulip]

its not terrible

but I guess trauma crit damage sucks so

yeah

[loud osprey]

do people really use soulblaze build?

[clear heath]

only with purg

[sour stirrup]

It's not a full commit to Soulblaze even, but with a Purg it ain't bad

[bleak tulip]

just get AB

[sour stirrup]

I imagine Trauma Crit for Soulblaze ain't great though.

[bleak tulip]

the others SB talents suck

[loud osprey]

last time i tried ab doesnt work well with purg for some reason

does the flame itself trigger ab?

[bleak tulip]

wrack is dogshit and kinetic overload is in the unfortunate situation of being between to better talents

[loud osprey]

or does it need to be dot?

[alpine portal]

in 30k years our shoulders slightly evolve that position is natural and comfortable, don't worry about it its a feature not a bug

[weary arrow]

for the kinetic flayer feat, does it work on dot ticks or only on initial hits?

[bleak tulip]

any damage

[sour stirrup]

90% sure it has to be an actual attack and not a DoT

[alpine portal]

it use to i think

[clear heath]

Pretty sure flayer doesn't proc on DoT ticks

[sour stirrup]

I've never seen it proc on DoTs

[alpine portal]

I tested it some in grinder. does not seem to

[sour stirrup]

I do like when my BB procs it.

[bleak tulip]

it sure procs on purg ticks at least

which is good enough

for a purg build

[weary arrow]

kk ty

[alpine portal]

its kinda the only way purga kills stuff...

[bleak tulip]

since youre hitting a horde with what like two ticks per second each?

you get a guaranteed flayer

[alpine portal]

its good tho makes force sword able to kill things

[idle shuttle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YRzwh7cGPc

[alpine portal]

its all thats left for some

[sour stirrup]

Yep

[idle shuttle]

basically me

on 2 characters

[bleak tulip]

tbh just play another game lol

the sooner you rip yourself away from fomo and accept that whenever they actually add endgame most of this checking wouldnt have mattered anyway

[sour stirrup]

I can either test weird edgecases in feats, try to get a new weapons before ADHD kicks in and I realize this third thing, which is that all I have left to do is wait for Fatshark to finish the game so that crafting works and we have more options for subclasses.

[clear heath]

hmm, i wonder why these are even here

[alpine portal]

in inner tranuility still bugged to slow qull speed?

[clear heath]

You can't even take damage in the psykanium

[bleak tulip]

you can use em for passive quell

[manic needle]

So you can spam them when you get bored lol

[bleak tulip]

if you wanna fuck with that

[idle shuttle]

i have a steam deck

i can take it to work

check shop every hr

[alpine portal]

probbly becasue they intended to have mobs attack

[sour stirrup]

I'm curious if they're gonna "fix" lacerator.

[idle shuttle]

and then said "just ship it"

[clear heath]

Maybe they just wanted me to be able to test the push attack when you have a medkit in hand

[bleak tulip]

didnt they fix lacerate already?

or was that just the grenade interaction

[clear heath]

this push has more range than i was expecting

[sour stirrup]

As of at least yesterday Lacerator still makes BB do more damage

[alpine portal]

umm what?

how much ?

[sour stirrup]

And I did get around to getting it working in mission, and a lot of reapers dropped in 2 BBs

The 15% advertised.

[clear heath]

That's not specific to lacerator tho
It seems like most blessings work this way

They'd probably want to fix all of them at once if they care about this

[sour stirrup]

Yeah I'm not sure if they're gonna end up "fixing" that or not.

[clear heath]

It would be too much effort rn

[alpine portal]

maybe its not the worst things getting a little more dmg out of bb?

[clear heath]

And i guess the blessings don't really say they shouldn't work

so whatever

[bleak tulip]

did you have to apply lacerate for it to work?

[sour stirrup]

It ain't bad. It helps with some breakpoints in higher diffs so you can run Flayer or w/e instead of 6 stacking warp charges.

[bleak tulip]

because then you have several other blessings that buff BB more

and easier

[sour stirrup]

You BB a thing, Lacerator makes it take 15% more non-warp damage, next BB gets 15% damage.

Ta-da

[clear heath]

I guess it adds some extra value to those shitty blessings that barely do anything but are easy to activate
Like this

It always scales, even for brain burst

[sour stirrup]

At 4 stacks, you can 2 shot a reaper down in 3+, although it is still 3 in Dif 5

Then I run Kinetic Barrage to make it reasonably quick.

[bleak tulip]

well those take up space still

[clear heath]

Well, 3% power seems like shit, and it is, but
there's not much of a condition to activating it

The other blessings that do more mostly require you to use the weapon

this is active even if you never switch to melee

[shadow wigeon]

Any good? Is critting a thing with void?

[bleak tulip]

not really

but getting two t4s is neato

[clear heath]

Is sustained fire even useful for voidstrike?

[bleak tulip]

would get this just to ectract the blessings if you dont wanna use it, though the base stats are solid

[clear heath]

idk how it works

[robust meteor]

nah i got it switched up with precognition

[bleak tulip]

sustain only works on left click

[clear heath]

wtf

[bleak tulip]

I mean its not terrible

left click is underrated

[shadow wigeon]

yeah i assumed the sustain was only LMB

[bleak tulip]

but its obviously not bis

[manic needle]

Its better than Run N' Gun

but that doesnt mean its good lol

[shadow wigeon]

does RMB ever crit? on more than the target?

[bleak tulip]

it can crit yes

but only with the base 5%

I think it rolls the crit for each target

but im not 100% on that

[robust meteor]

isn't it like surge in that each tick/damage event has a % chance?

[bleak tulip]

yeah I think so

[sour stirrup]

https://puu.sh/JuL86/5368957669.jpg

I think this is more ideal?

But I also don't have max rank blessings

[bleak tulip]

transfer peril is BiS on void

so yeah

[shadow wigeon]

Transfer seems amazing

[manic needle]

It is

[sour stirrup]

Transfer lets you clear hordes without caring.

[bleak tulip]

it lets you basically vent while hitting

[sour stirrup]

Just aim high and watch as your Peril sits at like 2%

[manic needle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1032844566971297833/1056302966035992586/Voidstrike.png

[clear heath]

wtf

[manic needle]

My friend blew this staff off by saying "Ive had better blast radius on blues"

I wanted to facepalm

[clear heath]

385

[sour stirrup]

That's a good staff.

[boreal cave]

Wtf gimmie xD

[manic needle]

Its 380 but it glitches when you consecrate

the values add up to 379 but I assume there are hidden fractions

[shadow wigeon]

what should i roll for on that void staff? more crit or +flak?

[bleak tulip]

flak is always good

basically @manic needle s staff is as good as it gets

look at that

[clear heath]

that kinda doesn't make sense tho

like even if every stat had an extra hidden .9, it would only be 383.5

[bleak tulip]

its a known display bug, that much is true

doesnt really matter what it adds up to

[manic needle]

Yeah I dont know why items get +5 on consecration sometimes

[clear heath]

I'm just wondering how it even happens

[manic needle]

Its just a display bug afaik

but it was a grey 380 from the armoury originally

and I rerolled a sprint efficiency perk

[clear heath]

Fatshark grabbing numbers from the warp

[alpine portal]

thats pretty

[bleak tulip]

yeah thats basically the most god roll you can get

[clear heath]

shit warp resistance
you should discard it

[bleak tulip]

man its kind of funy how one blessing just deletes the need to have any amount of stats in two bars

blast is already dump stat

and one % of charge rate is like 0.01s difference

[alpine portal]

Hello there

my screen shot was being dumb

unfortunatly... its mobility tank

[zenith vigil]

when playing psyker, do you want the BB target to be killed by someone else or not? real question cuz it's hard to resist popping off some brightly glowing head...

and I don't know anything about psyker

[clear heath]

no

[sour stirrup]

If it has a blue head, consider the target dead and move on.

[alpine portal]

personally I dont care, but we get bonuses if we kill it. might be good to weaken it, but you would need to know what your doing before hand if you try that.

we get damage bonuses. so... it helps the team if you dont shoot it

[zenith vigil]

okay, thanks 👍

[clear heath]

it's also just a waste of time to kill a thing someone is already about to blow up

and a waste of ammo if you're shooting it

[alpine portal]

if its a small mob avoid it. they are trying to maintain there charges.

[sour stirrup]

Actually, here's a good guideline

[clear heath]

in higher diffs, it doesn't kill stronger enemies, so sometimes you might wanna help them lower its hp

[sour stirrup]

If it's human sized and shaped, then let the psyker pop it. If it's bigger than that or weird (dog, mutant, ogryn) then keep shooting.

[spiral remnant]

oh lord im jealous

how'd you get it?

i swear i've done like a hundred shop refreshes now

[clear heath]

For some elites, you might wanna hit the enemy once or twice and then move on

[spiral remnant]

I still only have one 380, and it's a revolver

[zenith vigil]

I see 👍

[alpine portal]

your the best person for asking.
just so you know

[manic needle]

Too many hours played, logging in every 2 hours to check shops, etc

And then a lot of luck consecrating a profane 380 staff

[clear heath]

for something big like a bulwark/crusher, it takes like 3 brain bursts, so do like 2/3 of its health and it should be basically dead

[alpine portal]

does any one have a pic of the storm witch duty vs the redemption pants?

they look identical on the pennence tab

[spiral remnant]

damn...

[manic needle]

I dont have a picture, but the inscription on the armor panel on the left leg is different, and the Redemption pants have embroidery embedded into the fabric that can be difficult to see

With the Duty Raiment, it's a skull with a laurel wreath on the armor panel. With the Redemption Raiment, its sort of.. an aquilla with a bunch of scrawlings around it? Hard to see

[rocky cedar]

Started a Psyker recently. With low stats trauma staff felt pretty bad to me, but I like the idea of it. Do people consider it viable with good rolls once you're max level?

[sour stirrup]

It's pretty meh

[alpine portal]

yah absoultly

[manic needle]

It's viable, yes

[alpine portal]

we argue about it tho

[manic needle]

With skill you can do work with it, watch a few Darktide streams and youll see what I mean

[rocky cedar]

Cool, glad to hear, what would the dump stat be for it?

[manic needle]

Ive been watching one stream recently of someone who cleans up with it on Damnation

[alpine portal]

you sir get TWO internet points today

[cyan notch]

thx

[manic needle]

COuldnt tell you, I dont use it myself

[cyan notch]

warp res

[manic needle]

https://www.twitch.tv/newtypebtw

Ask here for some advice if you want to try it out

[alpine portal]

really?

[rocky cedar]

I've heard it has a pretty minimal effect on actual cost so I guess that makes sense

[alpine portal]

oh

[cyan notch]

yea it generates a ton of peril anyway

[rocky cedar]

Thanks for the help

[weary idol]

wish I could get these pants in different colors than black

[cyan notch]

whatever middle of the road warp res u get is fine

[weary idol]

just more recolors in general

sucks that only a few of the sets have recolors

[alpine portal]

for real. would be nice if once unlocked it gave you color option s

[rocky cedar]

Oh another question. Is the soulfire on crits blessing any good?

[manic needle]

"Would you like your weapon to be red or grey?"

[zenith vigil]

😊

[weary idol]

I want my weapon to be the black camo that the PDF NPCs have on their lasguns >:C

[manic needle]

That will be 500 aquillas, sir

[shadow wigeon]

feat build with void + FS? I'm used to getting piles of warp charges from purg, but didn't seem like it as much with void

[alpine portal]

you forgot a zero

[weary idol]

i will cry

[manic needle]

Im currently trying out 1-3, 2-2, 3-1, 4-1, 5-1, 6-3

Err sorry

Fixed

[shadow wigeon]

3-2-1-1-1-3

[manic needle]

Yeah

[shadow wigeon]

yeah that's exactly what I just guessed at, ok

thanks

[manic needle]

Sure thing

Quietude is hard to beat for toughness generation tbh

[weary idol]

the warp charge one sucks almost exclusively because it doesn't stack

but the veteran elite kill toughness feat stacks for some reason

[shadow wigeon]

Yeah I have been using Quietude with Surge + FS and I liked it quite a bit

[weary idol]

also quietitude only recovers 5% less on a left click brain burst but quelling is much faster than 5 seconds

[bleak tulip]

I can recommend 221133

if youre low on toughness just kill more shit and you good

since ideally you basically dont ever wanna quell manually with void

[manic needle]

Warp Absorbtion is what I used to use with Voidstrike, but I like how quietude takes advantage of FS peril generation as well

Id probably use that one if I was still going with an Axe for melee

[bleak tulip]

I never found myself actually using FS generation for it tbh

[sour stirrup]

I think I'm running 3-2-3-2-3-3

[bleak tulip]

I tried it many times and I always go back to absorb

[radiant niche]

wish we could save feat and weapon loadouts

[manic needle]

I think it helps for me that I have max rank Transfer Peril on my staff too, but I still havent played much since switching to this build

I might still go back to it, who knows?

[bleak tulip]

also I would never not run flayer, all the gameplay of mine I watched back it comes in clutch so many times

I could consider forgoing communion maybe but not flayer

[sour stirrup]

I think running Flayer + Barrage + Lacerate makes up for communion just fine.

[bleak tulip]

I dont generally use BB on anything other than ogryn is the thing

[robust meteor]

anything armor is a good bb target

[neat inlet]

this any good even w the bad damage stat?

[bleak tulip]

nah

thats the one stat you absolutely want maxed

pretty much on any weapon other than surge

[robust meteor]

the blessings suck too

[bleak tulip]

yea

[compact cargo]

No.

[sour stirrup]

I think you reroll the +ranged perk but the rest makes it not worth doing that.

[compact cargo]

[bleak tulip]

you could keep it for the off chance that maybe eventually we get something to reroll stats but dont hold your breath, there isnt anything anyone has seen to indicate thats a thing thatll happen

not like discarding does anything

[manic needle]

Anything is a good BB target with Kinetic Barrage when your team needs you to deal with an elite

Gunners, snipers, ogryns

If you have stacks on Damnation you can even kill the gunners

[bleak tulip]

sure but gunners and snipers you can just void

its faster

well, snipers is

[manic needle]

Yeah snipers can be voidstriked, I just like being comfy behind cover

[bleak tulip]

by the time I press F, switch to BB and charge it the sniper is dead to a right click two times over

[crisp storm]

how do yall get reliable targeting on BB? my auto-target seems to struggle with mid/long range elites (gunners, shotties, etc.) standing in a pack even while tagged

[bleak tulip]

and gunners you can often just left click, at least you usually supress em a bit

[manic needle]

With multiple snipers is when it gets really tricky

Also note that I play with Surge more than voidstrike

[sour stirrup]

Jump, aim high, auto tracking usually grabs their head before a walker/groaner

[bleak tulip]

pinging them seems to help but thats probably just placebo

there is meant to be a targeting bias towards specials and elites but its not very strong

[manic needle]

BBing anything in a horde sucks

[mighty vault]

Especially since you should probably be flaming said horde

[manic needle]

It always seems to prioritize close targets over farther away ones

Which is annoying when a poxwalker walks onto the edge of your screen or something

[cyan notch]

i always jump before bbing

[bleak tulip]

yeah, I dont BB maulers or ragers unless theyre isolated and i dont have a horde to blast, Ill hit em inadvertendly by horde clearing anyway and stagger them

[manic needle]

Yeah that seems to help

[mighty vault]

You can just swing the cursor in from above

Never really have that issue

[cyan notch]

yes that works too

[bleak tulip]

being max height helps too

a little

[mighty vault]

Ogryn psyker best psyker

[manic needle]

Shortstack gang 😎

[mighty vault]

heretical

[manic needle]

Watch what you say or Ill bite your ankles

[sour stirrup]

Playing Psyker is being one foot in the heresy pool anyway

Praise Tzeentch, Leman Russ sucks, down with the Corpse Emperor.

Yada yada

You get the idea.

[magic burrow]

I like my Psyker being tiny.

[weary idol]

protocol suggests this is a bad idea

[sour stirrup]

When they let me play as a Thousand Sons sorcerer, I'll stop cosplaying as a blue Psyker in Darktide.

[manic needle]

Why no inquisitor, I just really like the number 9. Just a coincidence, really.

[sour stirrup]

Yeah Nbd

[boreal cave]

For bb iv found aiming high where it won’t cast then moving it lower to the head seems to latch on the best to specials in a pack

[compact cargo]

For small psykers u may need to jump

[boreal cave]

Still requires heresy and praying to RNGeesus though

[compact cargo]

U can get it consistent enough with practice, to the point u can grab specials knocked down by the f

[alpine portal]

I know its not worth it... but im gonna wait for shop restock.

[robust meteor]

actual testing says you're wrong https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bfBPBQpOdY&t=264s

[compact cargo]

Caxe is faster than bbing armor, so is ur vet and zealot

[robust meteor]

are 100% of psykers running caxe? no

[compact cargo]

Even with caxe, as a psyker even if listed as armor deal is not armor...

[leaden pier]

eh ill still cqc armored guys with fs

[robust meteor]

its more exposure in a lot of cases

[compact cargo]

Veteran and zealot both do it better, bb runaway specials, bulwarks if zealot asks, shotgunners, gunners, but agaunst armor

[loud osprey]

personally wouldnt risk melee with rager unless im forced to

[robust meteor]

i feel like i decimate ogryn packs with ab

[weary wasp]

Can't axe a guy from the other side of the map
4head

[compact cargo]

Teleport into them

[leaden pier]

doesnt the fs warp attack stagger rager?

[weary wasp]

Telefragging is the new meta

[compact cargo]

It will be thanks packet loss warp msgic

[loud osprey]

high difficulty likes to stack spawn ragers too, cant say its the best practice

[robust meteor]

its not. the animation lock is too debilitating

[cyan notch]

push em down

[compact cargo]

More reasons to run caxe, the special staggers ragers

[weary wasp]

Bb is bad vs rangers considering that surge can just lock them and one full charge of purg is a kill

[robust meteor]

its situations. if no one is around the rager, why do you need to cc it

[weary wasp]

To promptly smack it right after

[weary idol]

and one trauma staff knocks them on their ass for a free kill

[loud osprey]

use kb, press f, bb ragers, dont forget your teammate exists, they can kill the ragers too

[robust meteor]

then you are around the rager. thats not what i'm saying

[weary idol]

why the fuck would you BB ragers?

[robust meteor]

thanks for changing what i'm saying

[weary idol]

it doesn't one shot them

[leaden pier]

it can one shot if you have full stacks

[weary idol]

no, it can't

even with 6 it doesn't one shot them on heresy/damnation

it leaves them on ~40 hp

[robust meteor]

i thnk it can on heresy but not damnation

[leaden pier]

ive one shot them on heresy

[cyan notch]

gunners are 1 shot

[weary idol]

the only breakpoint warp charges give you for one shotting things is Heresy flamers

[leaden pier]

i dont really play high difficulties that much anyway

[robust meteor]

lets be honest. builds dont matter unless you're playing damnation

[orchid venture]

I always feel like the quality of my runs gets way lower the later in the day it is

[robust meteor]

or some weird mod

[cyan notch]

if a bunch of ragers/maulers come just push em down with fs until its safe to special them

[weary wasp]

Only if you're a sweaty power gamer, much like all the cool kids are

[robust meteor]

i spray anti perspirant over my entire body. i dont get sweaty

[compact cargo]

BUilds don-t matter for psyker anyway, you are going to be using that staff 24/7 and any bb you do is anecdotal and a loss of ur utility

[loud osprey]

we are gathered here to discuss the best build we will be using when us psykers launch our rebellion and take over the morning star

[weary wasp]

Statistically it looks like majority don't even touch heresy

[cyan notch]

well there isnt much reason to

[orchid venture]

Lost after killing the sanction redactus target because someone was salty, and they did a vote kick, which brought up a damn popup box that I have to physically click through, and taking away control from me for those 2 seconds was enough for 4 poxwalkers to just kill me

[cyan notch]

just camp shop for gear

[robust meteor]

Damnation runs https://discord.gg/8M2RaQHW

[loud osprey]

on the psyker channel?

[robust meteor]

oops

ty

[dense cloud]

empreors gift 😄

[weary wasp]

Anyone who initiates a vote kick at the very end of a mission deserves own personal hell

[cyan notch]

lol nice quell

[weary idol]

14% quell speed

actually unusable garbage

[dense cloud]

nope not realy

use it and 100% switch to caxe 😄

to quel 😄

oish faster then qulling

[alpine portal]

should be kicked

[weary idol]

curious

god brain burst sucks

[potent echo]

kinda pointless if you have a gun

[cyan notch]

bb isnt that bad

you cant expect it to 1 shot all elites

[weary idol]

actual garbage

I sure can expect it to 1 shot them when it takes that damn long to charge

or at least one shot them with warp charge damage

to enforce upkeep of them

[burnt island]

Could use a quickplay damnation psyker right now

nvm

[weary wasp]

Rangers tend to come with groups of other stuff so even if it was a oneshot, it's not worth the opportunity cost compared to any staff that can disable or outright kill them

[cyan notch]

it takes like 2s to charge and has infinite range and ammo

[flint turtle]

Speaking of garbage, out with a bang existing causes me pain

[weary wasp]

It's called "out with a bang" Due to random psykers joining a game, nuking self, then promly fucking over the team and quiting

[wet raven]

it also builds up almost half a meter that can instant kill you if you over do it

[cyan notch]

oh i c

[weary wasp]

Yet it doesn't do shit if you initiate it at 97%

[weary idol]

96

97 will kill you without peril resist

[wet raven]

meanwhile me on sharpshooter can expend 1 mag with my helbor and kill 3 crushers and 4 ragers in under 15 seconds >.>...

by myself

[cyan notch]

hellbore damage is bugged

[weary wasp]

Bb is also you get instead of nades rather than ult sooo

[wet raven]

doubt, if you read the tab break down most of its damage comes from crit, it just has a high in built crit mod

[cyan notch]

vs carapace?

[wet raven]

no :V it says 237 buuuuut that clearly doesnt pan out when im dealing 2000-2500

[cyan notch]

which is why i said this

[wet raven]

verse one enemy type i suppose? still doesnt change you can do similar things with bolter albiet at a reload cost XP

just need rending

[weary wasp]

Aimed bolter with stability feat has like 35% crit chance

[weary idol]

vet base 10% plus the 25% from the stability feat

so yeah checks out

[weary wasp]

Thought vet was 20

[weary idol]

vet base crit is 10%

[weary wasp]

Mm

[weary idol]

a whole two times as much as the other 3

[wet raven]

dont use it for crit, its crit deals barely much more than regular damage :V think magnacore has it the worst

[weary wasp]

It's highest anyway

[cyan notch]

why did they stack vet so much lmao

[weary wasp]

It's a natural crit

[weary wasp]

Think they just screwed up the rest

[weary idol]

the other classes got brutally nerfed during the pre-release betas

psyker in particular got hammered hard for being too good in the lower difficulties

and hey wow look at them being bad in the higher difficulties now ain't that funny

[weary wasp]

Oh noo my t2 sugar carryyyy

[wet raven]

this

[cyan notch]

best ranged best melee for the shooty guy

[weary idol]

power sword nerf was not nearly enough

that weapon is still overpowered

[weary wasp]

Ps being best melee is arguable.

It is best no investment melee tho

[wet raven]

its the best cleave weapon at least

just need slaughterer

[cyan notch]

effortlessly staggers ragers too

deals with all types of armour

all by spamming heavy with special

[covert ermine]

It was nerfed?

[wet raven]

only to not have infinite cleave

[weary idol]

extremely slightly yes

[wet raven]

because it instant killed any hoard you touched

[weary wasp]

Naaah, after trying infinite cleave with 50% power stack blessing heavy sword I would not say so. Literally hold w and spam attack as everything in your path gets unalived

[covert ermine]

It still cut through hordes

[wet raven]

now you can cleaver up to 10 targets (averages around 7-8)

[weary idol]

yeah it still destroys hordes in seconds

with extremely minimal effort

it just doesn't literally one shot all of them

while also being able to kill crushers/maulers/whatever just as easily p much

[wet raven]

heavy sword cant properly deal with elites though? power sword still does decent damage verse all elites

[covert ermine]

Domn i love ps

Shame psykers get only 40 shades of autoguns and magic noodle sword

[weary wasp]

It's bad vs armor on it's own, but unlike ps it has a great dodge and block to make up for it, with excessive amount of pushes on top

[weary idol]

force weapons could be literally anything

we could get a force scythe or pike

but we just get one type of sword

with one in the psyker trailer still not being in game

[covert ermine]

Can we get ps?

[weary wasp]

Nah

[weary idol]

god I hope not that weapon is so boring to use

[covert ermine]

😠

[wet raven]

300 dps with no energized buff (which would speed up the dps as it gets 1 extra swing) and no damage oriented or slaughterer stacks

which is respectable

[weary idol]

also boring to play with people using it because you basically don't matter in any melee engagement while they kill everything single handedly

[weary wasp]

And then zealot or psyker with flame cloud comes in and deletes the room

[weary idol]

flame cloud at least doesn't kill carapace

[cyan notch]

is zealot melting everything with ult and gun intended

[weary idol]

no probably not

it's probably an oversight with the ult giving 100% armor pierce to their attacks

[wet raven]

unless you ult causing it to go straight through their armor XP

[weary wasp]

God I hope it's not. I love melting crushers with shotty

[weary idol]

it's at bare minimum counterintuitive to class identity

and also comically overpowered

[weary wasp]

Look, pressing F is a a very chalanging and skill intense endeavor

[wet raven]

but we all gotta do it, to pay respects to the psyker class

[weary wasp]

[sour olive]

I really hate to see my m8 is a flamer zealot tbh

especially in hard difficulty

[weary wasp]

I don't think psyker as bad as I used to, but it def feels jank and tedious with bb+warp charges still

[weary arrow]

whats the best difficulty to quickplay for leveling?

[weary idol]

once you realize that warp charges are damn near completely useless

psyker becomes a lot less annoying to play

[wet raven]

id love to pick up my revolver or shotgun again but no one clears hoards

[weary idol]

they hit zero breakpoints and basically only make horde clear slightly more consistent

[sour olive]

your melee is horde cleaner

[wet raven]

tier 2, heard you can speed run them in about 10 minutes

[sour olive]

horde doesnt poses threat unless being mixed with elite

and thats what your guns are for

[wet raven]

if you do nothing but run that is, teammates slow you down

[cyan notch]

warp charges are great for inner tranquillity and ascendant blaze

[weary wasp]

I recently switched from surge to purgatus so charges are now a must in case of needing an instant room deletion on ult. Otherwise yeh, they don't do shit

Now, if they added POWER rather than sissy damage...

[sour olive]

reason why psyker's flamer is more than horde cleaner is becuase 'kinetic overload' and 30-2

[gusty spade]

Hi guys, for lightning staff, is it better to spam lightning or charge it up?

[sour olive]

also it can brain bursting elite

[weary idol]

spamming for CC

actually charge it to kill flak armor

[wet raven]

or maniacs

[sour olive]

spam lightning unless its unarmored shooter/horde

[weary wasp]

Spam for cc, but it does little damage. Good rolls on full charge can deal with crushers on its own

[weary idol]

yeah uh don't hold your breath trying to kill maniacs with surge staff

[small hornet]

Surge is overall stalling enough time for your teammates to bonk the electrocuted boiz

[weary wasp]

Also don't forget to tap zap the burstersters and then instantly bb them

Don't just ragdoll them for 5 mins

[sour olive]

lightning is for stunning elite and cleaning mass flak armored shooter imo

[wet raven]

spam usually is how you want to do it, just keep the important targets stunned and your golden, doesnt matter how you do it

[gusty spade]

I see i see. Thanks yo

[pseudo rock]

Hey did anyone get the Grand Resolver harness that's in the shop right now and did it cover your hair?

[weary wasp]

Full charge can kill flak maniacs, but not scav ones

[wet raven]

which is why its great when it doesnt work :> had an isntance of a mutant, running, grabbing, triple slamming, and throwing a ally before the stun worked on him

[gusty spade]

Oo full charge eh? Ehat about maulers

[wet raven]

any fast moving target is... buggy

[weary idol]

i feel like dreg enemies are as a whole signifcantly more dangerous than scab ones

which seems backwards

[wet raven]

gunner would like to have a word with you

[pseudo rock]

Not really, they're a different flavour

[weary wasp]

Surge only stuns mutant on very last tic. But yeh, enemy can just choose to ignore it sometimes

[weary idol]

especially since scabs spawn more frequently on higher difficulties like they're supposed to be the more dangerous ones

[weary wasp]

Scabs are funny, because they are also immune to supression rn

[sour olive]

fatshark being fatshark

[cyan notch]

(not a bug)

[weary idol]

scabs are the traitor guards

dregs are the guys in banana cloaks

[weary wasp]

Yeh the dregs

[wet raven]

they feel more dangerous X3 with their baseline bois, but as long as you have a few melee unit to cover them, youre good

[weary idol]

dreg shooters are bugged to be immune to all but full supression

or sorry working as intended to be immune to all but full supression

so they often just walk out into the open and shoot you for 9 billion damage with no care for their own lives

[pseudo rock]

dreg bruisers are easily the tougher of the two bruisers, with a flak head and more hp, as opposed to flak body and lower hp.
scabs shooters aren't too much of a threat, despite their full flak armour their HP is weak and their melee is not a threat
dreg stalkers are sort of a constant threat, but completely unarmoured.
scab stalkers are spooky af because they have flak everywhere that matters and boatloads of hp

[weary wasp]

Even when they aren't, they just instantly recover anyway

Why not

[weary idol]

dregs literally just walk at you and shoot

and just like the scab stalkers will refuse to put their fucking gun away even when you are within sniffing distance of them

so they just destroy your healthbar

[weary wasp]

"Can't shoot the shit out of you without coming closer"

[manic needle]

Average cultist aim in action

[weary wasp]

Also. Is it true that 15% CD perk applies to everyone in coherency with every special/elite kill?

[weary idol]

yes

[weary wasp]

Hmm

[pseudo rock]

yes

it's quite good if you're the designated elite-remover

[weary wasp]

If it works as stated it should apply when allies kill too

[manic needle]

laughs in ELIMINATING ALPHA TARGET

[weary idol]

yup

it is very good, except for that people FORGET TO USE THEIR ABILITIES

[weary wasp]

Bruh

[wet raven]

just point and shoot

[pseudo rock]

It doesn't say anything about allies

[weary wasp]

I had a revo vet once
She only used her ult at the very end of the mission
Once

[pseudo rock]

wait wrong one

[weary wasp]

Ability CD one, not that garbo

[manic needle]

"Hey guys I took Psykinetic's Aura so you should let me kill some elites so tha-" "THIS ONE'S FOR CADIA"

[pseudo rock]

pretty much^

Psyker is sort of just a fragile microcosm of every other class' capabilities

[weary wasp]

Even so
Bb halo is like a magnet for vet shots

[pseudo rock]

that runs ammoless

no kiddin

[weary idol]

yes

[loud osprey]

blue funny circle = hold that pose heretic

[pseudo rock]

Can you explain why you're a gun psyker enjoyer

[sterile lake]

Did they buff BB on difficulty 4 and 5 yet

[weary idol]

brain burst on hit+recon lasgun = free instant special death every 15 seconds

[pseudo rock]

I guess I can sorta see it on a Kinetic Barrage build

[loud osprey]

yea what kind of heresy is gun psyker

[weary wasp]

They didn't do shiet

[weary idol]

warp charge break points bad, warp charge consistent damage boost good for guns

[pseudo rock]

no

[manic needle]

lol

[weary idol]

especially things like the autopistol, or my personal favorite

the MK VIII infantry autogun

[weary wasp]

Brrt

[magic burrow]

look at this seksi trinket

https://puu.sh/Jv5Ms/33254be74d.png

[pseudo rock]

right but you could just play vet and have a constant 15% weakspot damage bonus instead of "sometimes 12%" as psyker

[weary idol]

absolutely shreds anything barring crushers that you just kill with fs or bb

[weary idol]

okay but you don't aim for their weakpoint all the time

[weary wasp]

My issue with dakka guns is that the heavy variants still get almost as much ammo yet hit like a truck both per shot and dps

[weary idol]

and doing that on vet would mean having to run a different gun so I have an option for carapace

[small hornet]

Do you ever block

with psyker

[weary idol]

(i'd also lose cerebral lacerations and psyker's really nice stamina/dodge passives)

[clear heath]

just power sword the carapace

[pseudo rock]

force sword does do work

[weary idol]

psyker honestly probably gets the ost mileage out of block efficiency of any of the classes

[weary wasp]

Laughs in 60% block efficiency + deflector

[weary idol]

because of peril on block enabling them to revive anyone anywhere at any time

[small hornet]

Imagine becoming a jedi

[loud osprey]

how do you stack 60%

[small hornet]

smh

[pseudo rock]

If only I could get deflector on a force sword that isn't dogass

[wet raven]

perks on it

[small hornet]

20% block efficiency on 3 curios

[weary wasp]

10-12 per trinket, 15-20 on weapon

[pseudo rock]

it goes to 20% on curios

[small hornet]

oh

[loud osprey]

thats a lot of rng bs on the shop

and tech priest

[weary wasp]

Peril res feat seems to help but weapon slider doesnt

[small hornet]

does it go to 20% or 12% on curios

[magic burrow]

should I reroll the sprint on the curio, and what should I aim for rerolling it into?

[weary wasp]

12 t4 10 t3

[pseudo rock]

honestly I don't know why they make us keep rolling after we've re-rolled perks enough times for it to be free. Just give us a drop down at that point

[small hornet]

Ah

[manic needle]

How are you supposed to enjoy getting shit on by RNG for 20 minutes if they do that though?

[pseudo rock]

I mean we're perpetually enjoying getting shat on by RNG with this fraggin armoury

[manic needle]

Yeah but like this way you can have even more FUN

[magic burrow]

T4 seems pretty rare on curios

I wish there was a better way to see what tier perks/blessings were without just knowing the values by heart

[loud osprey]

i dont mind shops, the lack of crafting weapons and trinkets like in vermintide are more of problem to me

[weary wasp]

Not extremely but rolling for it is still tedious. No idea why they just don't let us pick once it's free

[weary idol]

perks will have more diamonds depending on their tier, and blessings will have different border designs

[manic needle]

At that point shops are just the replacement for chests which is... fine I guess.

Bosses can drop Plasteel at that point and Ill be happy

[loud osprey]

^

[weary idol]

god I wish I had more plasteel, or at least something to sink all this diamantine into

[weary wasp]

Chests on vt2 are pretty pointless

[clear heath]

Probably just didn't have time to make the UI for it.
Even if that's the case though, they should've made t4 a lot more common once it's free as a bandaid solution

trying to get a specific t4 takes ages

[weary wasp]

Probably

[magic burrow]

a reward for defeating a monstrosity would be neat. That would give an incentive to try and kill daemonhosts too, though I guess it would result in randoms aggroing the thing for no reason more often

[clear heath]

I'm fine with demonhosts being an obstacle to avoid. I agree with other monstrosities giving rewards tho

[sterile lake]

I kinda hope the leaks are Real and they put out a gigantic amount of cool staves that can delete on difficulty 4 and 5

[thorny crypt]

shock or fire for level 4 and 5 difficulty?

[shrewd grove]

fire

[magic burrow]

refining becoming cheaper the more you try seems weird to be, but Im not going to complain about it

[sand marsh]

worth it? i read that blast radius doesn't matter for voidstrike

[loud osprey]

shock if you got a team with cc

[clear heath]

both are pretty viable

[weary wasp]

I'm bouta act up

[clear heath]

The original plan was to have it get more expensive the more you do it, but no mention of other perks locking

[weary idol]

more force weapons

I want a force pike

psyker is basically the only class that could reasonably get a polearm and I need it

[elfin roost]

Force knife

[weary wasp]

Blast tmradius is that stagger explosion with no damage on hard surface. Chances are it won't ever trigger anyway because the wall behind the horde is just that

[magic burrow]

a polearm is just a staff with a pointy bit on the end

[clear heath]

Force shovel when?

[magic burrow]

and a staff is just a neat stick

[loud osprey]

force shovel yes

[weary idol]

force staff with an actual knife on the end of it

or make it a ""ranged"" weapon like the ogryn grenadier gauntlet

[clear heath]

we bonk enemies with our staff
basically a force polarm already

[elfin roost]

Force rock

[loud osprey]

Force rapier

[clear heath]

force gun

[magic burrow]

spam staff special attack for that polearm feel

[weary wasp]

Force harsh remarks

[loud osprey]

force medicae

[elfin roost]

Force grimoire

[loud osprey]

force ammo crate

[sterile lake]

Yes that would also be great

[magic burrow]

force pocket sand. Which is just the ult, but your character yells "force pocket sand!"

[elfin roost]

Force bolter

[pseudo rock]

wish there was a curio perk for shotgunner damage resist

[loud osprey]

force orgyn

[pseudo rock]

force force

[weary idol]

force hands

(the psyker just slaps people but with vigour)

[magic burrow]

force pinky finger

[loud osprey]

force feet

[weary wasp]

I'm not sure if gunner applies but looking at how they just delete my toughness in one shot compared to gunners, it probably dorsnt

[clear heath]

it doesn't

[elfin roost]

Force crusher

[clear heath]

force box

[elfin roost]

Instead of knockback it's just a nuke

[weary wasp]

Good thing averagw vet can just kill all the shotgunners on sight, right? Right?

[elfin roost]

Yeah

[weary idol]

also give the ogryn astartes weapons

[clear heath]

The average vet is too busy emptying a lasgun mag into a crusher

[weary idol]

they can totally use space marine weapons

[elfin roost]

[weary wasp]

Or meleeing with power sword

[clear heath]

Your vets melee? Mine just shoots every poxwalker in the horde with a lasgun one by one

[weary wasp]

I get a whole package

[weary idol]

to be fair if it's a recon lasgun

especially the VIIA

[weary wasp]

Recon has a funny weakspot damage. Too bad it's largely ignored

[weary idol]

well for the MKII and VID justifiably ignored

but the VIIA is stupid good

extremely versatile gun

[weary arrow]

will i have to go through prologue every time i create new class or can i skip it?

[loud osprey]

you can skip it

[wanton raft]

there's a setting in the option to turn it off

[tranquil wedge]

When you beat it once, making a new character gives a prompt at start for if you want to skip it.

[wanton raft]

still need to click through a bunch of screens though which is annoying 😛

[weary arrow]

kk tyty

[wanton raft]

oh the prologue. i thought you meant the intro vid

[tranquil wedge]

Not having to hold spacebar for 5 seconds is nice though

[wanton raft]

aye

[pseudo rock]

I pray to the Emperor that the Fatshark Administratum will one day see fit to combine our character's inventories, including money

[loud osprey]

clearly you are not praying hard enough, have you recited your scripture today?

[pseudo rock]

i've recited 25 scriptures to sire melk already

[loud osprey]

have you collected all of emperor's hentai smug for sire melk?

[idle bay]

it's just 9 missions. Easy and well payed for task.

[pseudo rock]

12 Grimoires is the superior mission

25 missions

[weary idol]

also wasn't a "pet" mechanic datamined for that leaked guard class

give psyker a pet daemon

[idle bay]

It pays less than 25 Scriptures

[pseudo rock]

fine by me

it's 10x less of a headache

[loud osprey]

donno, sounds equally painful to me

[pseudo rock]

it's 6 missions worth of grims, and grims are monumentally easier to locate

[loud osprey]

thats true

[idle bay]

12 Grimoirs is 6 missions minimum with high risk of randoms loosing the damn things - realistically making it 8-9 missions as well, but will less pay than 9 missions with Scriptures

[pseudo rock]

it's not much less pay

preference honestly

[idle bay]

Scriptures have a sound-cue that makes them easy to locate as well

[pseudo rock]

quite right but a visible glow is usually easier to deal with

I prefer grimoires

some added challenge is appreciated

scriptures have more obscure spawns

and are generally just a hassle

[idle bay]

When zealot carrying Grimoure suddenly descided that it would be fun attacking Deamonhost while on his last health bar 🙂

And the book goes puff!

[pseudo rock]

If my team is that stupid I have bigger concerns

[idle bay]

Scriptures are idiots-proof (mostly)

[pseudo rock]

sure

[idle bay]

The only task that's really bad - 25 missions.

[loud osprey]

you reroll those, but then they just give you 15 instead

[wanton raft]

it's alright.... if you only want to complete it on one character.

[idle bay]

I only re-rolling :

• secondary objectives - it's absolute Groxshit! And pay too low
• low pay objectives
• 12 grimours

[loud osprey]

funny enough i have similar strag on that. now my zealot is stuck on 12 grimours

[summer prairie]

Melk's offerings aren't good enough to bother min-maxing based on the point rewards

[weary idol]

best part of grimoires is being able to make your character grunt and moan by spamming the discard button and not finishing the animation

i mean what

[idle bay]

Eventually once in 300 hour he have 1 GOOD item.

[clear heath]

Sometimes i get stuck with garbage weeklies and i just decide to play a different class for the week

[summer prairie]

yes and you will have plenty of points for that even if you went for some 250 point goals instead of 500

[clear heath]

I have 4 classes leveled anyways and i'm not doing weeklies for all of them

[idle bay]

I can only handle completing weeklies for 2 classes

[clear heath]

realistically i just finish weeklies for 1 or 2 classes

[idle bay]

I'm too old for this 🙂

[summer prairie]

I stopped playing more than 1 class after seeing the systems, everything is just a pain

[clear heath]

I never get anything good from melk scam shop anyways

[loud osprey]

realistically i need to get paid in real cash for the work i do for melk

[nova iron]

lfg psycher penance

[cyan notch]

realistically melk should give me a bloodthirsty force sword

[summer prairie]

Oh not bad

[steel egret]

Finally something linked that isnt around 300

[summer prairie]

rolled t2 warp nexus and t3 flurry

[steel egret]

Perks?

Besides the ranged dmg

[summer prairie]

stamina which I'll reroll to flak

[wet raven]

crit chance

it isnt made to do damage but crits are very important with it

[steel egret]

Im just asking what he got.

[wanton raft]

crits important on surge? I've been using it as a dump stat

[dusky raft]

Hi, simple question, does the warp sword also block projectiles ?

[weary idol]

with a specific blessing called "deflector" yes

[dusky raft]

oh ok thanks

[weary wasp]

so basically

15% cd reduction seems to only work when its psyker that gets the kill, and not when any other ally in coherency does it

and considering that people dont just pop their ability the moment it gets online, psyker aura doesnt seem to be worth the slot whatsoever

[summer prairie]

by far the best in the slot

only your kills but cdr for everyone

and no reason not to spam it unless you are running something like 6-2

[weary wasp]

High conflict with vet ability. Yeh, you fuel his CD but at the same time you take away the targets that renew it's duration entirely.

that is assuming your vet actually kills the targets he himself highlights

[weary idol]

I find myself more fond of +15% damage against brain bursted targets

as most of the things that you aren't wasting your time brain bursting don't die to it

especially helps with all the slug boys on damnation

[weary wasp]

the 4% is so inconsistent that the bb buff might just be a good option, tho for anything but purgatus

ironically purg is also the best to melt bosses

[weary idol]

I only run the 4% on ascendant blaze build specifically

otherwise I use either the cooldown or the extra damage depending on mood

[wet raven]

thats how it works and how it is worded, same thing applies for scavenger on the sharpshooter

otherwise you'll get instances where both the ogryn and zealot will permanently have their abilities up because the game spawned 5 ragers XP

[wet raven]

ima argue that communion is best in slot defacto, though it may seem its a incredibly small %chance (being 4%), if there is ever a hoard its 12% damage for you passively, and it often times will help you maintain your warp charges passively while youre too busy to be brain bursting (it also works wonderfully with the last perk which adds soul flame to targets based on warp charges) letting you maintain your charges extremely well (between that and kinetic on tier 3s without high intensity, i maintained max warp charges for 280 seconds)

i wouldnt take that ability unless you're stacking preachers, as only they will really benefit from it as they spam their ability often enough it goes on cd

[summer prairie]

warp charges don't do anything for me

I essentially have to choose all warp charge related talents to get anything out of them and even then it's marginal

[wet raven]

unfortunately they are pitfully small in the grand scheme of things unless you do soul fire cleansing :> or are using staves with tranquility now that its been fixed

it does add about 100 damage to brain burst though which is good

[weary idol]

doesn't hit any breakpoints

5 warp charges will kill heresy flamers, otherwise brain burst breakpoints are unaffected

it just doesn't kill the same things but on even smaller slivers of HP

[steel egret]

It reduced cd for one who gets the kill on coherence

[wet raven]

any speed up helps XP no particular break point for you but 1 less melee from a preecher or 2 less shots from a vet is good in my book

[weary idol]

no I mean it when I say slivers

the things brain burst doesn't kill will die in one heavy melee from damn near any melee

[summer prairie]

or your staff left click

[weary idol]

except obvious things like maulers

[wet raven]

no...? it just gives passive ult recharge whenever you kill an elite to the allys that are in coherency with you :V

[weary idol]

with 4 warp charges I believe you leave dreg and scab ragers on ~100 health

and with 6 you leave them on about 20 xd

[wet raven]

LOL

[weary idol]

oh you think that's funny

4 warp charges on heresy flamers

they have 5 health

[steel egret]

It gives the cd to whoever gets the kill.

[weary idol]

1125 health, takes 1120 damage

agony

[wet raven]

psyker op, needs nerf can almost kill gunner in 2 seconds, ignore vet, hes eating corpse starch

[wet raven]

weird, well if thats the case then its broken af with a "the bigger they are" vet

[weary idol]

this is the real problem I have with brain burst honestly

the things that it does one shot it's massively overkill for

[steel egret]

It is.

[weary idol]

the things that it doesn't it's just barely not enough damage for

[summer prairie]

no, it gives cdr to every ally in coherency when psyker does the kill

[wet raven]

based on wording from what i recall

[summer prairie]

based on testing

[wet raven]

you know what would be a good buff for psy? making the warp charges effect be given to allys as well, make them more a support class :V

[cyan notch]

they already have 10% elite damage

[steel egret]

Some guy tested it too and said it gives to allies in coherence range who get the kill.

[wet raven]

of course that would need tuning but :V it would make it feel better

[steel egret]

Not really a hill I would die on.

[weary idol]

hell yeah support class

[wet raven]

as an aura yes, but more

[summer prairie]

when did he test it though because the patch that fixed it not working on specials also changed how it worked

[steel egret]

Im fine either way

[weary idol]

I want a support class like WHC from VT

[wet raven]

incentivize keeping high warp charges MORE

[steel egret]

Launch second patch

[weary idol]

it's why i'm playing Psyker

[wet raven]

they were working on a psyker with titan bubble as a special ability from datamining

one thats based around protecting allys

[weary idol]

I'm glad you assumed I would know about Destiny

but yes

defender based

or sentinel as it is now I guess

but I like killy supports

[wet raven]

i was considering rewording as i typed but said F it to that

[weary idol]

I liked WHC because it was great at killing priority targets

[wet raven]

same, buffer mages not white mages are my jam

running haste on a wizard in dnd <3

[weary idol]

imagine that

ability that makes an ally attack faster

or something that applies brittleness so you can delete crushers

[weary wasp]

yeh i said that initially but then someone said that it procs for everyone and then i started testing it aaand so on and so forth

[wet raven]

or something that actually works, ive had instances in which hoards were treated as being struck by a gentle breeze rather than shoved to the ground

[weary idol]

I just want more support classes

Ogryn and Psyker are nice but they aren't full supports

[cyan notch]

its horde not hoard

[steel egret]

Its not really something I would notice changed, dont really keep tabs on other classes F ability cds.

But if thats how it works now, Im fine with it.

[weary idol]

everyone has 30 seconds except for veteran who has 25

[steel egret]

Sure, I still dont keep count.

[weary idol]

you will count every time you hear the cadian shout about cadia

cadia jar

[steel egret]

Nah.

[loud osprey]

thought psyker cd would be something like 15 sec or something

[weary idol]

yteah you wish an ability as ineffective as that would have a short cooldown

but no your funny force push has the same cooldown as the zealots kill everything button

[steel egret]

You would think

[valid frigate]

What are warp charges

[weary idol]

useless

oh uh I mean

3% extra damage per warp charge max of 4

some feats interact with them

[weary wasp]

they go up and make you feel good

but then then dont and you feel bad

[weary idol]

universal 12% damage bonus is just enough to be a nice novelty

and not enough to be anything significant

[valid frigate]

Sound like cock

[wet belfry]

Pretty sure the abilltys power is dependant on warp charges

[weary wasp]

they did fuck the psyker with this mechanic so yeh

[wet belfry]

Which makes it more sad.

[steel egret]

Dont really kill things, just CC and walk behind.

[weary wasp]

its raw damage, not power

[wet belfry]

Nah it has more stun, longer range with more warp charges

[loud osprey]

f becomes quite powerful with kinetic barrage, its not all bad

[weary idol]

why does the game not tell you that

[weary idol]

that's the feat being good not the actual F

[wet belfry]

You can test in the psykanium.

[steel egret]

Didnt feel like it was important

[weary idol]

psyker F before feats is by far the weakest ability in the game

and I really have to wonder what the point of it is

[steel egret]

Ranged push.

You can remove dogs etc

[weary idol]

yeah okay ranged push the laspistol on psyker has a ranged push too

[loud osprey]

well, theres also orgyn's charge, melee push

[weary idol]

ogryn charge gives them move and attack speed

[wet raven]

close enough :V (but thanks)

[loud osprey]

50% peril for us

[weary idol]

50% peril is not a lot

[wet raven]

vets laughing with their almost universal 50% :V

[loud osprey]

enough to save you from nutting

[steel egret]

Devs call that a endgame tactic

When you stack wound curios to do that

[weary idol]

yeah exactly

[weary idol]

why even get to that level in the first place

peril before 100 will cap you at 100

you do a brain burst at 96 you still sit at 100

even though it builds 45

[steel egret]

Edgewalker psyker.

[loud osprey]

infinite bursting

[wet raven]

buzz buzz buzz :>

[weary wasp]

tested

warp charges make stagger on ability stronger

thats about it

crusher still shrugs it off at 6

[stoic gyro]

I have a question

For the Emperor

[weary idol]

meanwhile force sword push attack

[stoic gyro]

WHY

[wet raven]

PFFT only bad thing on this is run and gun

[stoic gyro]

7% dmg

It will heal a Crusher

[real fox]

Hi !, Who to clean or help me for the penance / achievement "Going Out With a Bang", (kill 3 elites in one explosion with the shrink), I have an almost sure solution to have it if we are 3 / 4

[wet raven]

above the base of the weapon...

[stoic gyro]

nah i know, the statline is just ridiculous imo

[wet raven]

it funny, saw a chainaxe with 0% once in chat XP

[real fox]

Hi !, Someome to clean or help me for the penance / achievement "Going Out With a Bang", (kill 3 elites in one explosion with the psykinetic), I have an almost sure solution to have it if we are 3 / 4

@fringe plume of curse

@fringe plume i have mp you

[patent hatch]

Wtf is that

[real fox]

Hi !, Someome to clean or help me for the penance / achievement "Going Out With a Bang", (kill 3 elites in one explosion with the psykinetic), I have an almost sure solution to have it if we are 3 / 4, we are 2 for now.

[mellow apex]

you still need this?

can I join? need a couple of them myself

[real fox]

Hi !, Someome to clean or help me for the penance / achievement "Going Out With a Bang", (kill 3 elites in one explosion with the psykinetic), I have an almost sure solution to have it if we are 3 / 4, we are 2 for now.

[covert fjord]

what curio stats should one stack on psyker?

[light citrus]

should I upgrade this

[vestal finch]

Nah

Bad Burn stat, bad Cloud Radius

[light citrus]

How about this

[split oxide]

What does more damage to a Plague-Ogryn?
BB, FS, VoidStrike?
I don't know the attack pattern, if you block him, will he just pin/spam you to the spot?

[stoic gyro]

Gift from empror - he hates me!

[light citrus]

Gift from emperor

[jovial quail]

@split oxide Melee is by far the best way to deal with him on psyker, especially if you have kinetic deflection. He has a charge which he always initiates with and if people get to far away, a 3 hit combo where he wide swings his arms and then his stomp and smash. Once he charges in at you just block him to stop him and immediately start hitting him, it'll put him into a combo loop of smashing down and stomping which you can easily just dodge backwards. Immediately run back up to him and then hit a few times and he'll just do the same thing over and over again. Try to not to use anything with long animations though like Force sword's special due to it taking to long and you'll probably get hit by a stomp/smack though. Lacerate knife imo is the best way to handle him though but whatever melee will work. The 3 hit combo wide swing you can just back dodge or side dodge as well, all of his attacks are extremely telegraphed since he's basically just a reskin of the rat ogre from v2

[hoary shadow]

Impossible to get defector on my sword… i have to wait next step of the craft

[cedar urchin]

does the talent level 15 psykenetic aura applies cooldown regardless who ever kill the elite?

[round jay]

You have to kill them and it remove 15% cooldown for you and your allies nearby

[stone gate]

Where could I find what this blessing does in a voidstrike?

[round jay]

Like for psychic communion it tells you if it works with allies kill

[regal basin]

nothing, voidstrike doesn't get that blessing

[summer prairie]

it does

[regal basin]

its not supposed to

[summer prairie]

says who, some website?

[jovial quail]

@stone gate It just hits a target twice iirc, not super amazing sadly

[regal basin]

using this website, https://darktide.gameslantern.com/weapon-blessing-traits? its been reliable

[deft trench]

Trying to decide on whether or not i want two toughness trinkets or two stamina trinkets, leaning more towards stamina since toughness just seems to disapear in 1 second on higher dificulties for psyker anyway?

[jovial quail]

They don't have quite a few things added on that site, and have stuff thats datamined/not even in game. Don't believe everything from the sites. They're a good guideline but far from correct in everythin.

I personally prefer 2 21%hp curios and a +3 stamina all with sprint effiency for heresy/damnation

[stone gate]

I'm pretty sure it is available in the voidstrike staves, as It is in one of mine.

[jovial quail]

(But I run a knife build, if you're using anything else kinetic deflection makes alot of stamina stuff moot, sprint effiency is still nice regardless though)

[summer prairie]

+3 stamina is the same as +1 stamina right now

[jovial quail]

It's not, it doesn't give you the actual bars but if you use a stopwatch it has different stamina consumption

[summer prairie]

are you sure because even the curio lua seems to indicate that it's just +1 and someone else did sprint efficiency testing and found it the same

[jovial quail]

I'll have to test again since there are so many bugs but I tested with 0, 1, 2 and +3 and they seemed all different

And it was by like 1-3 second differences so it does seem like it was working but again could be incorrect

[ornate hamlet]

what's a perils of the warp explosion

it's for a penance

[regal basin]

its when you try to use warp powers while on 100% peril and explode killing yourself

[ornate hamlet]

oh

okay thanks

[regal basin]

warn people in advance if your trying for that one

[ornate hamlet]

what, the boom hurts them as well?

[jovial quail]

@ornate hamlet Best way to get it is with a surge staff and damnation with a modifier going on a map with alot of elites spawning at start. Just light charge spam and spread out the damage on the 3 elites and when you explode they'll be below the threshold. Ragers were by far the most consistent as well. Plus alot of people won't join by the time you try it and succeed/fail and you can just retry again and again till you get.

[round jay]

You can try it in the simulacrum, it does a lot of damage around you

[ornate hamlet]

alr thanks

[round jay]

but you get down so, yeah tells your team in advance

The hard part is getting 3 special at the same place, and then explode before they shoot you down

[abstract phoenix]

Why do i occasionly black screen on a discord call

[shrewd grove]

if a deflector sword is on the market i should get it regardless no?

[round jay]

Hardware issue maybe

[shut thorn]

its not reliable

I've had to correct people claiming x blessing isnt on y weapon because of that website

so many times

literally

just ljd the lua data

and you can see

what blessings can go on what

[wet raven]

this, you NEED good cloud radius on the staff, i was trying to use a near maxed out staff with a 35% cloud radius and i couldnt hit anything that wasnt literally right next to me XP

[shut thorn]

hardware acceleration

[shut thorn]

Cloud radius isn't important

assault_warpfire does less dmg the further away it is

[abstract phoenix]

what does that mean?

[wet raven]

FS is the highest dps you can get on anything in the game but if hes focusing you or doing some of his aoe attacks you can get caught up in them

[shut thorn]

go into discord settings and look for it under advanced settings

why are you asking about discord anyw

in a darktide discord

in the psyker class channel

[wet raven]

dont lie to me XP i used it in game, that thing couldnt hit anything, less damage doesnt matter if you deal no damage at all

[shut thorn]

flamer is the highest dps

fs doesnt even come close

[shut thorn]

you have sliding in the game, have you tried using it

[wet raven]

sir this is the psy chat

[shut thorn]

even on psyker the highest dps is las pistol

[summer prairie]

combat knife with lacerate is also higher dps than FS and probably a recon laser with infernus

[shut thorn]

technically revolver

but it's limited in shots

[wet raven]

with this hit registration? PFFT

[shut thorn]

?

You're talking about a plague ogryn

[inland sand]

seems wild to me people enjoy playing Psyker with guns

[wet raven]

3 of 5 shots no regd shooting his head

[shut thorn]

If you miss a plague ogryn, idk what to tell you really

[wet raven]

youd be surprised...