#psyker-class

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round jay
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I like the lightning one for his range, but if it’s a mission with lot of hordes, go for purgatus

fresh reef
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should also be noted that technically speaking, the only thing surge can stun that purg can't is mutants

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for example if you're about to get pounced, you can spam m1 on purg to keep yourself safe

clear heath
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bulwarks

fresh reef
jovial frigate
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purgatus feels more solo friendly, esp in t4/5, but if you got a zealot or vet duo that's worth their weight, you can be a zappy boi and focus on ranged blobs

flint turtle
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I have everything else, every shot counts, on overwatch, heavyweight champion, just a flesh wound, but out with a bang is the only achievement that upsets me staregryn

fresh reef
tropic pollen
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you really should deal twice as much damage if you’re trading a down for it

covert cosmos
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trauma enjoyer master race

fresh reef
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should do 10k for how tiny the radius is

covert cosmos
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i hope they give it enough of a buff that max wounds build becomes viable

supple skiff
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does slaughterer have different durations based on tiers of the weapons its on

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found a power sword on my vet that has it last for 3 seconds and im really hoping that can roll on fs

jovial frigate
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its less than a brainburst peepojail

flint turtle
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Blowing up feels weak, as both a punishment and a weapon

clear heath
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It should damage allies

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no way a barrel should be more dangerous to my team than my self destruct

fierce sinew
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what exactly is included in the "damage resistance from gunners" curio perk?

jovial frigate
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last down perils should have some rng memery to it

fierce sinew
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just dreg and cab gunner ranged attack? reaper too? melee attacks from those mobs too? etc

cyan notch
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machine gunners and i think reapers

flint turtle
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It's that

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Mind blowing I know

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I'm a genius

clear heath
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wow

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incredible

vagrant cedar
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isn't normal gunners not included?

clear heath
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no idea

fresh reef
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man the randoms seem particularly bad today

vagrant cedar
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like those 10-15 that spawn together

fierce sinew
fresh reef
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everyone dies to first horde

fierce sinew
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reaper is the latter and not the former

flint turtle
alpine portal
clear heath
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If you saw a psyker running 100m deep into a horde in malice, that might've been me trying to test block efficiency

fierce sinew
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I'm asking if the name or type sense (or something else because fatshark) is what "gunner" refers to

clear heath
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I might have screwed that group over

fresh reef
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alright, here's what I've gathered

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shield seems good on paper and in practice, when you're just occupied with taking out ranged threats

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but the mobility that a dueling sword with deflection seems more applicable

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further testing is needed, so I'll be switching back and forth regularly

clear heath
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well, force sword has a lot of mobility too

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infinite dodges

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what you're really trading is you get a slower passive quell with it

fresh reef
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infinite dodges, but otherwise not really

clear heath
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which imo is a pretty fair trade

fresh reef
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yay, time to wipe

cyan notch
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infinite dodge + force sword special + 360 push + force push knocking down anything + deflector

royal granite
cyan notch
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no the push is

fresh reef
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you fucking what

clear heath
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yeah

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Seems to have more range in front tho

dense cloud
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what does sprnt efeicny do btyw?

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sprint faster ? or ?

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les stam drain ?

violet yoke
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Less drain

fresh reef
royal granite
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lowers stamina cost i believe

dense cloud
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rip

violet yoke
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The only thing that makes u faster is the weapon type you use

clear heath
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One day fatshark will bless me with flak damage + block eff force sword with good stats

royal granite
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on one hand sprint efficiency useless, on the other hand we're the only class allowed to sprint without destroying our block

clear heath
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but we also take a bit more damage while sprinting

dense cloud
sage flower
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i don't understand the dueling sword

cyan notch
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well everyone can just spam sprint slide with minimal stam cost

clear heath
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yeah just spam slide imo

sage flower
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the attack pattern/swings seems so unintuitive

violet yoke
royal granite
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11% warp resist? fucking bitterPasta

dense cloud
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11% warp is waht i want on it

violet yoke
dense cloud
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when i wanty high perrling

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for resit and tougnes regen

royal granite
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yeah no it's perfect is what i'm saying

umbral hull
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dense cloud
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i got 60% tournesregen

royal granite
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perfect dump stat

violet yoke
umbral hull
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ah okay. thats good to know

violet yoke
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After plaing a bit after the patch seems they tossed quite a few ninja fixes in that were not directly announced

proud hinge
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Do I upgrade this to legendary to try and get deflector on it?

clear heath
violet yoke
dense cloud
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so funny

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wait until someintg that you donjt know how it works comes out

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it might not be waht your tinking and then just could have had that sweet gamble on it

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fun time is now

violet yoke
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I mean its way cheaper to keep upgrading green and whites for deflect and not doing the last 2 pumps

dense cloud
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true but were is the fun in that

clear heath
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I mean, either way, you'd probably want to upgrade it eventually

dense cloud
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this keeps you playing

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it gives you a goal

clear heath
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even if they let you replace blessings, you'll want to make it yellow

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cause that's a great base

dense cloud
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remove it and what you have lieft is noting

clear heath
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actually, the idea that you can replace the blessing on this later makes it even more enticing to upgrade it

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because you can just replace if it goes bad

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probably

violet yoke
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I never said toss it... just man i been on the crafting mat farming life and its rough

proud hinge
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My current force sword is kinda meh:

clear heath
proud hinge
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haha nice

clear heath
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too bad blazing spirit sucks

cyan notch
clear heath
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wtf those stats

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i never get 380 stats

cyan notch
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i dont really either

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most of my stuff in shop are 330-340 range

jovial frigate
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i never get 380 melee weps

plain talon
# cyan notch yo

Why is there so little damage variation for Force Swords? This is best in slot Force Sword, and yet they all linger at like 60-110 damage

fresh reef
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dude warp absorption on trauma feels so good

cyan notch
fresh reef
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step 1: delete portion of horde
step 2: regen 50% toughness

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profit

cyan notch
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yea but vs ranged its pretty ass

inland sand
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what perk is ideal for the Surge staff?

plain talon
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What do you people run on your curios?

fresh reef
plain talon
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Most of the options seem shitty

cyan notch
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all health with block efficiency and mutant damage resist

plain talon
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I have 2 health and 1 wound (cause I'm running damnation)

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And apart from block effeciency, there is very little that is good or not bugged the fuck out

clear heath
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I run 3 toughness curios

jovial frigate
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2 wounds 1 stam but also 34% stam regen

clear heath
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wtf

jovial frigate
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mindlessly pushblocking my way through life

cyan notch
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stam regen is pretty nice if u stack it

plain talon
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Stamina is among the buggy shit

cyan notch
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pretty much impossible to have 0 stamina

jovial frigate
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oops

inland sand
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All toughness for me

plain talon
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+3 curios give +1 stamina

jovial frigate
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2 HP 1 STAM IM NOT A SHITTER

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[;S

dense cloud
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2toughnis 1 hp

alpine portal
dense cloud
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32% tounegs 24% hp

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i itnk the emprroe wants me to play gunnner psycher

inland sand
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he doesn;t

teal kite
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Psyker Fusion

inland sand
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he told me

dense cloud
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i keep geting trans guns

alpine portal
cyan notch
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trans guns

jovial frigate
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thats not the emperor thats your depression

dense cloud
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all the guinz are emporoes gifts

jovial quail
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Yarp. Gotten 8 more ranged weapons since this and all guns.

alpine portal
# dense cloud

I think I bought two guns, becasue they had a high item level

dense cloud
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😮 tyhis was the gift i just got

crisp yacht
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WOWOWOW POGGERS!!!!

teal kite
dense cloud
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wtf is useds 2 amom per shot wtf is this Xd

fresh reef
dense cloud
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XD buring

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and mmutie

fresh reef
fierce hazel
fresh reef
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expected the wall to be a bit closer

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and it was not lmao

fierce hazel
fresh reef
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honestly not even mad because of how happy this staff makes me

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hopefully I can get some good rolls on it

vapid vault
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so if I go through a high level mission and switch to my low level character I can get the full xp on the low level

fresh reef
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very L perks

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gonna keep it around for when blessing extraction is a thing

clear heath
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Do you still get all the crafting materials that were collected before if you join late?

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Or just the ones you were present for?

dense cloud
mellow ibex
cinder jungle
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Why does it feel like my psyker builds up way more corruption than my other characters? What am I forgetting?

weary arrow
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aside from lore reasons of being a psyker? XD

wise pecan
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Corruption is not based on % hp, just static values

cinder jungle
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I have 19% corruption resistance, but he still ends up with way more purple than my sharpshooter or zealot...

weary idol
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i don't really get why people dislike the trauma staff so much

supple skiff
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combine blessings when

wise pecan
fierce hazel
weary idol
oblique knoll
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the cc on it is pretty dece

supple skiff
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want to run that quell but the charge speed

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good lord the charge speed

weary idol
true torrent
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Isn't the damage bugged too?

wise pecan
weary idol
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it's pretty spammable

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and surge is also a temperamental piece of shit that likes to target poxwalkers over ragers ripping me in half

dense cloud
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empreror gave me anotehr gun 😦

supple skiff
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they remove the gift soft cap?

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seems like im getting a lot now

dense cloud
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its new week

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i got 19 last week

weary idol
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emperors gift has given me some okay guns on psyker wish I had them on a different class but y'know

dense cloud
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full day playing every day

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hmm wonder if theis bunr prock soulbase 😄 😛

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this is waht emperor gave me just now

weary idol
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the MK II recon lasgun is so sad

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same ammo economy as the others but it has the same damage as the much faster firing VID

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I feel like it should do 50-60 damage

dense cloud
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wow the bunr is 77 dmg

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sad it dont prock soulbaze Xd

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lol keep geint erorr code now wtyf

cyan notch
dense cloud
weary idol
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at the cost of the higher peril

cyan notch
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sure but also are there many situations whereby you need that

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to offset its downsides

dense cloud
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3 shots and you need to quel agin

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XD

weary idol
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well luckily traumas CC is also much longer so you have time to quell :)

dense cloud
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wel surge can kil better tho

manic needle
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Trauma has a higher skill floor to use well

weary idol
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surge kills better only against flak armor

manic needle
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You have to be good at juggling peril, aiming, kiting enemies, have high awareness, etc

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Also being good with movement tech really helps

nocturne jungle
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whyd he give this to my psyker though

cyan notch
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trauma is also inconsistent against bulwarks half the time they dont open up

weary idol
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it

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is perfectly consistent just unintuitive and stupid

cyan notch
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i put it behind them nothing

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in front nothing

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underneath them nothing

weary idol
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you have to physically be to their side or behind them

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because the explosion checks where you are first for some ungodly reason

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any angle you could shoot them from normally with a gun will give the full knockdown

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which is really stupid but it works so

cyan notch
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oh so when im behind a bulwark i can stun em wow how useful

weary idol
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how often do you see teammates getting got by bulwarks

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pretty often right?

manic needle
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if it's something that's Psyker exclusive, then there's probably something really janky with it

weary idol
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you bail them out

cyan notch
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how do u bail them out if theyre coming at you

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and if u say u have to be to the side or behind them

weary idol
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the knockdown against bulwarks isn't for you

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but if you put the explosion infront of them it does knock their shield away

cyan notch
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not in my experience it doesnt work

manic needle
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If a bulwark is coming at you with Trauma staff then youd want to brain burst or use something else, I imagine

cyan notch
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also why wouldnt i just use bb

weary idol
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yeah why wouldn't you just BB a bulwark anyways

cyan notch
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so why is trauma even needed for anything

weary idol
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it's nice for protecting other peopl with trauma, but BB will be better than it

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because it's better for helping your teammates?

cyan notch
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no? just kill em with purg or void

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dead enemies > bunch of scattered enemies on the floor

weary idol
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yeah pull out your voidstrike/purgatus and charge them in the middle of a horde

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either the bulwark is infront of you and the staff does no damage (where trauma would kill things)

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or they're engaging a teammate and the immediate knockdown of trauma may be the difference between them dying or not

cyan notch
elfin roost
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Does voidstrike evaporate the horde in front of you or just 1-2 enemies?

cyan notch
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which you can do with all staffs btw

weary idol
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trauma charges much faster than the other staves

cyan notch
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no?

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it even has a delay where u cant min charge

weary idol
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and purgatus has that too

cyan notch
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and how does that support what you just said

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it doesnt charge faster

proven cipher
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Is this better than my FS?

manic needle
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Bloodthirsty is a pretty nice blessing

weary idol
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def not better than a max uncanny strike though

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ignore all armor just for hitting headshots

jaunty moth
elfin roost
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GAWD DAMN

proven cipher
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Brah that god roll

jaunty moth
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ill never use it though cause its on my psyker lmao

weary idol
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isn't low rolling stopping power bad

elfin roost
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Imagine what upgrading it could be

weary idol
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because it's armor piercing

proven cipher
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60% is good enough lol

weary idol
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yeah a 380 is guaranteed to be good p much

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wonder why it caps at 80 anywys

proven cipher
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Prolly better version weapons later on

weary idol
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yeah red equivalents being able to roll 100%

jaunty moth
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im assuming there will be a rarity higher that goes to 100% at some point

proven cipher
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And likely that you can only use 1 of them.

cyan notch
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doubt

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and also doubt

alpine portal
cyan notch
weary idol
cyan notch
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cuz the gut said bail em out with trauma

weary idol
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you use trauma to help other people deal with bulwarks that aren't facing you

alpine portal
weary idol
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I mean it leaves them on like ~100 HP I'd assume it kills them

alpine portal
weary idol
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no don't do that

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if a bulwark is targeting you BB will always be better

cyan notch
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why wouldnt i just bb them

weary idol
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but if they're ot targeting you Trauma is faster than a BB and knocks them down for longer

cyan notch
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wdym knocks them down

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it just makes them open their shield

clear heath
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trauma does sometimes knock them down

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idk how to make it happen consistently tho

weary idol
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trauma will knock down a bulwark if they are not facing you when you hit them with it

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if they are facing you they both don't take damage and don't get knocked down

cyan notch
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i dont believe you

clear heath
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i'll record it happening. Just give me 10 minutes

alpine portal
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in meet gringer

weary idol
cyan notch
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u need 2 hits?

weary idol
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the first one is from infront of him

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the 2nd is from his side

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for some unknowable reason

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trauma staff checks for where you are to determine if the explosion does damage

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which makes exactly zero fucking sense

cyan notch
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neat i guess but still not worth it for mediocre perfomance outside of this positionally dependant knockdown

proven cipher
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Huh I think my FS still better with the Special with Bloodthirsty combo

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Deal so much dmg

weary idol
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what about the not at all positionally dependant knockdown on crushers

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as well as the more consistent CC/damage in general it has over surge

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it costs more peril which is the main downside it has compared to surge

cyan notch
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crushers arent really that big a deal you can just knock em down with force sword

proven cipher
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The duel sword with 100% rending is nice but it does pinprick dmg

sage flower
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an extremely accurate wet noodle was gifted to me by the emperor.

weary idol
alpine portal
cyan notch
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two of em just push em both down

weary idol
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or the psyker classic of your teammate needs help not you

proven cipher
cyan notch
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its cool but surge can handle those too

manic needle
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Anyone who thinks Trauma staff sucks probably hasnt seen it being effectively used in the hands of someone good.

weary idol
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surge can but sometimes it just decides not to

cyan notch
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if theyre in a horde and you guys are together its not a big deal anyway

half turtle
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which level 5 toughness regen is best on damnation? purg or surge

alpine portal
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is it worth risking for deflector

cyan notch
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i dont think trauma sucks i think its just mid

weary idol
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yeah the force sword is kinda shit without deflector

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the damage on it is so bad

steel flame
alpine portal
dense cloud
cyan notch
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mediocre results for very little reward

weary idol
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yeah the charge is high

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everything else is garbage

dense cloud
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fs bigest dmg on assin boss

weary idol
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can't even one shot damnation poxwalkers

alpine portal
cyan notch
steel flame
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force sword is amazing, its just that deflector is so much more amazinger that it feels bad without deflector even though its not

cyan notch
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it just affects special charge

dense cloud
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😄 ❤️

alpine portal
weary idol
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I'd honestly argue warp res being high is a bad thing on force swords

dense cloud
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its awsome

weary idol
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means less toughness regen from quietitude

steel flame
dense cloud
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qwith quitdtude

weary idol
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and it won't ever kill you even at 99 which you can just tap R once to get to

dense cloud
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yes

alpine portal
cyan notch
alpine portal
dense cloud
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41%

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so its 3 charges 😄

steel flame
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i spam the special like crazy in damnation with all the specials, but hey not everyone does damnation so its not all that bad on heresy and below

cyan notch
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even if ur at 100% u can just quell and do it again

dense cloud
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its also verry nice with tounes perk 😄

weary idol
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force sword good on damnation for killing big boys

dense cloud
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just pop it deflect

clear heath
steel flame
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the big thing is the push attack that racks up peril

alpine portal
clear heath
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god that peril cost tho

weary idol
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it's so bad at killing small boys though

steel flame
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that push attack is gonna drive that peril up by like 10

dense cloud
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for smol bois use lawnmower

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swing qq swing qq

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swing qq

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😄

cyan notch
dense cloud
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macro it 😄

cyan notch
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its only the special

steel flame
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it generates warp and it does

cyan notch
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its 4% regardless of warp res

dense cloud
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nope

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low warp resit is same as high XD

clear heath
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It only affects the special. The % shown is just the special cost

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Also this isn't that hard to test

cyan notch
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yea

dense cloud
alpine portal
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Just tested with mine gold it takes 28 to charge with 43 resist
with 79 its 13 peil

clear heath
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just go into a psykanium and try pushing to see how much it costs

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it doesn't change

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only the special changes

alpine portal
cyan notch
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yea doesnt affect peril blocking either

cyan notch
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which is why its not too big a deal if you get low warp res

steel flame
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it does seem odd that it doesnt though

dense cloud
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DEFLECTOR IT GOT

steel flame
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very nice

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im still rolling a 36% damage roll fs in damnation

cyan notch
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oof

steel flame
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deflector pulls its weight

dense cloud
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t_T

alpine portal
manic needle
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Nice, congrats

dense cloud
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I HAVE LIKE 9 FDEFECTORS LOL

cyan notch
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ill just put these here again

dense cloud
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IWANT THE BURING PERK FFS

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xd

clear heath
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soulblaze on crit actually sucks

alpine portal
steel flame
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i cri when i look at the stats

manic needle
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Im waiting to put exorcist on my good force sword

dense cloud
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YES BUT IF YOU SWAP TO SWORD WITH SURGE YOU MAKE SOULBZE STACKS ON CRIT :d

clear heath
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Think about how infrequently you crit
and then how little damage soulblaze actually does

steel flame
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2 stacks is not alot

weary idol
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soulblaze stacks exponentially so

rigid widget
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Where the hell do you even get a 380, just the shop like everything else?

steel flame
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and its on crit not weakspot hit

dense cloud
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SUIRGE CRIT 4 5 TIMES PER CAST xd

cyan notch
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maybe he wants to run around with shred + burning

dense cloud
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OOPS VCASP

weary idol
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it starts rapidly doing much more than a little

steel flame
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only once you start getting over 6

subtle linden
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Damn my vet can do heresy runs quite easily the moment I unlocked boltgun

cyan notch
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get this guy outta here

clear heath
# weary idol soulblaze stacks exponentially so

yeah so it sounds like it would be good with purg
and then you realize if you're already stacking soulblaze with purg, you're better off purging more rather than switching to melee for that 1/20 chance of applying a few stacks

fresh reef
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ayo the godroll laspistol?

dense cloud
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i got 32 fs

fresh reef
dense cloud
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not a singel one has burn on it

steel flame
fresh reef
sage flower
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oh, are people coming around on the las pistol now?

subtle linden
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I just spam antax mk5 block atk on my psyker

weary idol
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absolutely mulches elites

steel flame
# fresh reef

i gotta know, whats the effective range on that fire stick

weary idol
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and does fuck all to specials

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also the funny push it gets on psyker is useful sometimes

cyan notch
subtle linden
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Okay but what if psyker used his other hand to hold a pistol while holding a staff in the other hand

weary idol
proven cipher
weary idol
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or just new weapon class that is pistol+sword

dense cloud
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hmhmhmhm

subtle linden
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If the vet was smart enough he’d buy some duct tape and tape his power swords on button on permanently

steel flame
clear heath
proven cipher
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I think just need to replace Slaughterer with Soublaze blessing and 10% crit dmg

weary idol
steel flame
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they are very scared of the op vermintide weapons

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rapier, corustation staff, coghammer,

weary idol
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one thing that upsets me about this game is how anti-horde weapons are back to being worthless against armor

dense cloud
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hmhmhmhm

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only ting with blaze 😦

weary idol
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while anti-armor weapons still have the good anti-horde attacks xd

steel flame
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it do be like that

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always has been

weary idol
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most notable on the combat axes especially on psyker

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shorter stamina regen delay so push attacks for days

steel flame
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that push attack clearly slipped past in testing

manic needle
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The warp resistance on every single goddamned Surge staff I find is always disappointingly low

proven cipher
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If only Purgatus Staff can roll Blazing Spirit also

dense cloud
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this is good axe?

steel flame
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that sounds, redundant but sure

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man if we got blazing spirit on the void staff though

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since the fireball can crit multiple times

proven cipher
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The quicker to max stacks the more dmg

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Is my theory anyway

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Wish they let us test it on the boss/monstosities in the Psykanum

weary idol
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or poxbursters

steel flame
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i wish we could have attacking enemie

clear heath
steel flame
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in test range

clear heath
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not mine btw

proven cipher
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I think the real dmg kicks in at like 8 stacks of soulblaze

simple scaffold
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the dueling sword feels better imo

dense cloud
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i hear every one talking about that qaxe

simple scaffold
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force sword has its charm too

dense cloud
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im fs wmain al the way

weary idol
dense cloud
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jsut tesitng theis axe im heainrg about

weary idol
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and psyker can push attack infinitely

clear heath
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axe is for people who wanna spam push attack for the entire game

weary idol
#

and of course axe so it does a gazillion damage to armor

simple scaffold
#

I mean I like the axe, its a good weapon

#

love it for zealout

#

one thing thats really satisfying about it is it one shots a lot of things

manic needle
#

I miss my axe

steel flame
#

i dont use saber much, whats the best one on psyker right now?

#

mk5?

manic needle
#

But force sword is so nice for a Kinetic Deflector build

steel flame
#

i actually prefer deflector with 3 stamina relics myself

clear heath
#

wtf stamina deflector

steel flame
#

its just enough to full absorb shotguns on 5

clear heath
#

or you could just peril block

steel flame
#

you could, but with fire build you are almost always on high peril

#

so you gonna be using stamina anyway

#

and you lose your quell while moving

dense cloud
#

lol im solo in match with only bots 😄

steel flame
#

feelsbad

#

thats like every mission in 5

hybrid glade
#

Should I be charging my staff special attacks?

regal basin
#

depends on the staff and the target

#

for surge a short charge is good for CC but a longer charge can get some good damage on armoured targets, you find what works best with practice

#

for purge you need charge for duration since you need time in fire to apply the stacks that do damage

fierce hazel
#

I usually short charge on purg to stagger horde the full charge to kill

regal basin
#

for void... only as much as you need to 1 shot the enemies with head height shots unless its a special

#

for trauma... i think you only need minimal charge if your trying to CC a single big target, but charge time and area of effect there are clearly related so more enemies should encourage more charge

#

TDLR, more charge = more damage, short charge = fast CC

robust meteor
#

really weird its not capturing the problem

#

makes me think my monitor or cable is bad

proven cipher
#

Warp Chaos

#

Your pc is tainted with chaos

robust meteor
#

certain menus are flickering within the ui boxes, like the shop and weapon inspection

#

but it doesn't happen during gameplay

#

and its not recording on screencap

clear heath
# steel flame and you lose your quell while moving

imo mind in motion is kind of a beginner trap
it feels good when you're quelling with your hands, but then you realize you still have like 90% of your speed while quelling with staff out and you should be using your staff to quell anyways, so it barely does anything

alpine portal
#

... maybe.

clear heath
#

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

alpine portal
#

25 scrips complete.. now mission and mostrosities

#

honestly I think 25 mission in a week is impossible for a lot of people

dense cloud
clear heath
#

now imagine doing weeklies with 4 characters

#

why are they even separate? Who's even going to do weeklies for multiple characters?

mystic dirge
#

People with much more time on their hands

#

Like it's what? 6-10 hours to do weeklies?

dense cloud
#

ezpz

hybrid glade
hybrid glade
dense cloud
mystic dirge
#

Mobility stat weighted hugs

cyan notch
dense cloud
#

this axe feels like how power sword used to feel qwtrf 😮

mystic dirge
#

Zealot Mains preaching the Axe as the meta weapon

dense cloud
#

dont even need push atack

mystic dirge
#

Praise be unto the Emperor's Axe!

hybrid glade
#

Ya honestly I am kind of hoping they make it account wide in the future. The pool t hey go into anyways. To not force you into playing any one specific hero. Always get rewarded for your time

mystic dirge
#

it double-sucks when you want to split time/level an alt char and don't have enough time to get your 1k melkbuck bonus

cyan notch
mystic dirge
#

I mean, if you really wanna level it up to level 11 every single time...

dense cloud
cyan notch
#

the only way to get weapons other than camping shop

dense cloud
#

dont tel me my wapons are disepareaing]

fierce hazel
manic needle
#

Wait y'all still care about Melk's limited inventory?

#

I just use him for free curio rolls at this point lol

fierce hazel
mystic dirge
#

The regular peddler doesn't give enough tier 4 or 5 blessings

fresh reef
#

this build is fun and you should try it :)

hybrid glade
#

If youre playing this game like its a career, you should have the tip toppest shit

cyan notch
#

id be down

#

although levelling early on is faster

weary idol
cyan notch
#

level 11 doesnt seem too hard

#

when u get to like 18-20ish it becomes a real slog

dense cloud
#

this build fun to

hybrid glade
#

Ya but you are still putting like 10-12 hours a character in for that + getting all the weekly quests done. If youre already doing that for your 5 existing ones, youre talking 50+ hours a week of play

#

If a person is playing that much, I am ok with them having unimaginably good stuff.

#

Reward them for their time

manic needle
cyan notch
#

idk about unimaginably good though youre basically still just getting more rolls

hybrid glade
#

The more RNG you engage in the better chance you have of getting the most ideal items for your specific playstyle and build

#

It wont be a huge difference

#

but itll matter to their playtime

cyan notch
#

yes but still nowhere as deterministic as one might hope

hybrid glade
#

Ya

manic needle
mystic dirge
#

Funnily, I've never done a tier 5 blessing consecration, but I do see them time to time from Melk's gear milkers.

silk flax
manic needle
#

Its possible which is why I save enough coins to buy an item or two, but....

cyan notch
manic needle
#

Man the RNG in this game sucks

mystic dirge
#

yeah, it's incredibly rare because of how item rarity determines blessing RNG.

leaden pier
#

siblings what should i replace the sprint efficiency with?

mystic dirge
#

A rare consecration/shop spawn will be less likely to have a higher tier blessing, but an item that spawns as Purple/Orange will be more likely

haughty schooner
#

just snagged this, what we thinkin?

manic needle
silk flax
#

ive gotten 2

haughty schooner
#

how important is the cloud radius? thats only like how wide and how far right?

cyan notch
#

shops should at least sell purples

leaden pier
#

cloud radius affects range

manic needle
#

Cloud radius is one of the most important stats

haughty schooner
#

crap...

#

saw 2 80s n a 79 n got excited

weary idol
#

or +groaners/poxwalkers

#

dueling swords struggle with the small boys

cyan notch
#

they want you to upgrade weapons to get blessings but it costs 1200 plasteel to from blue > orange and thats like 10 missions on malice lets say

#

4-5 hours for one upgrade that might not even be good

sage flower
#

huh. is this worth considering gun psyker over?

mystic dirge
#

Crucian Roulette 🧀

silk flax
cyan notch
#

nice

#

theyve already said some blessings were rarer on lower rarity weapons

#

i wonder if some just outright dont roll with them unless you upgrade

silk flax
#

probably. I think someine in FS did say that

manic needle
#

I dont expect to see Surge or Bloodthirster unless I roll it when consecrating a weapon to Transcendant

#

And at this point Im tired of grinding plasteel

cyan notch
#

thats fine and all but how do they expect people to do that at any reasonable rate

#

it takes 1200 plasteel just to upgrade

manic needle
#

My playtime is going to tick up again if/when they overhaul the loot and crafting systems

sage flower
dense cloud
#

yees it stil works

fresh reef
#

"you can trust me with space magic I swear"

dense cloud
#

i got a coruiszl rooulte wiht 100% crit rarte on empty gon on melee 😄

cyan notch
#

absurdly high cost for one roll of a blessing that isnt even guaranteed to be good (that you cant extract anyway)

manic needle
#

sleep is for the weak

#

-Fatshark dev, probably

cyan notch
#

id be fine with gambling upgrading if it wasnt 1 upgrade every 5 hours

steel flame
#

?

#

did i miss something

cyan notch
#

and you cant even farm emperor's gifts cuz that shit is capped

bleak tulip
#

the best way to get blessings is melk

#

tbh

cyan notch
#

cuz lol cant have players having blessings they cant extract now can we

bleak tulip
#

he reliably has higher tier blessings on his weaponms

#

thats like the only thing hes good for

cyan notch
#

yea but thats just a lame timegate

steel flame
#

melk has terrible stat distribution alot of the time

manic needle
cyan notch
#

camp melk camp shop every hour wow engaging gameplay

bleak tulip
#

I basically never see t4 blessings in shop and see a few more or less every other time I check him

dense cloud
#

YEEES INFINATE CRITS >?:d IOM AGON MELELE FS DEFLECTOR ONLY BUILD :d

#

DOES FS Get dmg fomr the preril ? trait ?

#

1the 15 % one ?

cyan notch
#

yes

bleak tulip
#

on that note, time to check the store for the first time in like two days c:

remote tusk
#

It's going to be interesting to see the player retention rate in january

dense cloud
#

2k crit with fs 😄

remote tusk
#

Quite a few might have dropped off due to the empty endgame

lusty wave
#

Hey psykers

#

I recommend the devils claw IV if you're running surge

#

Pretty decent crowd control

cyan notch
#

crafting not even finished, super high upgrade cost, emperor's gifts capped, forced to camp shops

bleak tulip
#

there is still 20k players daily, just because were done and tired doesnt mean player numbers are in the gutter

manic needle
bleak tulip
#

we're basically omeganerds

lusty wave
#

@manic needle not good enough, good damage, but it doesn't cleave enough unlike the deveils claw IV

light citrus
#

My first Deflector

remote tusk
lusty wave
#

Devils claw IV specifically because it has a cleave attack that hits more targets. The other deveils claws don't do enough cleave

bleak tulip
#

even if theyre underwhelming

cyan notch
# light citrus

very decent roll itll probably serve for a long time until you get a better upgrade

bleak tulip
#

lets be real

remote tusk
#

True, for a while at least. Gonna be interesting to see

#

I'll probably return to Darktide with hope in my heart every patch, like an abused housewife

dense cloud
#

XD 😄

#

3 k hit fs 😄

bleak tulip
#

they wanted crafting to be complete in dec so I suspect first half of jan is gonna have blessing crafting, which will bring back just about everyone who hasnt given up yet

lusty wave
#

Wasn't telling you just suggesting but ight

bleak tulip
#

we'll play for like two weeks and then itll drop again, then a bit later we might get another content update etc yada yada games as a service

#

by summer its a real game with endgame and most of us wont even bitch anymore

manic needle
#

Not a big fan of the Devil's claw personally, I much prefer the push attack on Mk. 5 Axe for horde clear

bleak tulip
#

or we'll bitch because there isnt enough endgame

elfin roost
#

So voidstrike just blasts through as many unarmored enemies as it can hit right?

remote tusk
#

You think the patches will be meaty enough to keep us engaged?

bleak tulip
#

in the meanwhile I have like 400 games on steam I havent played

proven cipher
#

So which of these is better? Since the Vet Sharpshooter chat didn't respond.

elfin roost
#

God damn

bleak tulip
elfin roost
#

Bowling: Imperial Edition

manic needle
#

Blast Radius seems like a trap on Voidstrike. You'd think it'd be good but as far as I can tell it only affects the explosion that happens when the projectile impacts something it cant pierce

elfin roost
#

Yeah

manic needle
#

and that explosion does like 12-30 damage to things

elfin roost
#

We need ball size

remote tusk
#

Do you find warp resistance to make much of a difference as a stat?

elfin roost
#

Unless it hits a breakpoint for an extra cast or two, probably not

bleak tulip
manic needle
#

Going to probably have some downtime on Darktide for a week or two, myself. Might check out The Isle.

steel flame
#

ok so i just did a damnation mission with three fire build psykers and a zealot and it was disgustingly easy

bleak tulip
#

the more time passes the more people get competent at the game and realize damnation isnt that hard

steel flame
#

with three fire ults going off all the time ranged just ceased to be an issue entirely

cyan notch
#

itll probably still be hard for majority

bleak tulip
#

I guess its just people that queue into it are the people too bored of farming crafting mats and they actually wanna try

steel flame
#

the thing with damnation is that you arent allowed to make mistakes or play hero

bleak tulip
#

ive been seeing a fair amount of 3 skull frames lately

steel flame
#

the second you do that it feeds you your own entrails

cyan notch
#

you can make a couple mistakes

bleak tulip
#

you can still make mistakes, some fairly non hardcore friends of mine did damnation because of one good ogryn player multiple times before

#

like two weeks ago

#

they had like 5 deaths or something on their score screen

steel flame
#

i do almost entirely damnation missions with psyker these days, and we can get through them without deaths most of the time but the game is usually on a razors edge

bleak tulip
#

like yeah you cant just faceroll like in malice but its no cata

steel flame
#

weeeeelll

#

3 fire psykers can face roll damnation pretty hard

#

that shit snowballs really fucking fast

nimble burrow
#

I’ve cleared some malice with double digit deaths, I’d rather just wipe in damnation

steel flame
#

damnation is just legendary from vermintide

bleak tulip
#

not like damnation does anything for you right now

steel flame
#

but harder

manic needle
bleak tulip
#

materially damnation is just a waste of time, you likely arent exploring every nook for mats and you dont get any better drops out of playing it

steel flame
#

as if i want to play the game just to get materials

bleak tulip
#

not you

steel flame
#

shit is boring, would rather have a challenge

#

dont even need godrolls to do damnation anyway

bleak tulip
#

imma just wait until that challenge also does anything else for me

bleak tulip
#

hey thats like 30% of a yellow

cyan notch
lucid mortar
#

Makes one wonder how much it'll take to craft reds, or if they'll even be craftable

bleak tulip
#

I can tell you that blessing crafting wont be as bad at least

lucid mortar
#

I hope reds have special blessings, but I won't hold out hope lol

flint turtle
#

Let's complain more about out with a bang

#

I'm not upset

#

Shut up

covert cosmos
lucid mortar
#

I'm leaving that one for a happy accident in like two years

clear heath
#

trying to get a t5 blessing sounds like cancer
imagine getting 3 t4 blessings

covert cosmos
#

imagine being set on regular fire and magic fire at the same time

mystic dirge
manic needle
flint turtle
mystic dirge
#

imagine having to camp the Store for tier 4 blessings...

lucid mortar
#

I'm okay with crafting being somewhat of a grind, as long as the rng isn't horribly punishing

idle bay
#

Question: Does Purgitaton staff have some kind of animation lockout that prevent switching weapons or it's recent input issues that game got after last fix?

steel flame
#

as long as i get to put deflector on any dam fs i want i dont give a dam

clear heath
manic needle
#

Let people put in time to upgrade to the highest tier? Nah just make them play the slot machines for 20 hours of gameplay

bleak tulip
#

fusing at least is cheap

lucid mortar
#

Grindy crafting just makes emp gifts more "valuable" which I think is nice

bleak tulip
#

and t3 traits arent impossible to get

alpine portal
clear heath
#

How many t3 deflector swords do you guys have ready?

#

I have 1

manic needle
# clear heath hmm

Technically there's less RNG since you can only reroll 1 perk instead of both 🙃

bleak tulip
#

upgrading deflect is shit anyway

lucid mortar
idle bay
bleak tulip
#

all you get is a miniscule block efficiency upgrade

#

which you can just substitute easier with curios

steel flame
#

it goes from 3% all the way to 12% rn

bleak tulip
#

meanwhile, 15% for each curio

steel flame
#

good thing they all stack

bleak tulip
#

oh wait its 12

idle bay
bleak tulip
#

oh well

alpine portal
bleak tulip
#

yeah

#

either way who fuckin cares

#

hot take, deflect is overrated

manic needle
#

All hail the mighty Tzeentch

steel flame
#

i dunno having 48% block efficiency sounds pretty good to ole zazy

dense cloud
#

opmfg this is awomse full mapo don melee 😄 with psytcher 😄

#

fs

bleak tulip
#

I mean go nuts and grind store simulator every day for deflectors then my dude

#

I wont

dense cloud
#

cruizion roulet

idle bay
dense cloud
#

100% crit melee 😄 is awsome

austere sandal
#

anyone know if the ranged critical strike chance applies to the powered lighting? or is it just for the primary energy ball that u fling out?

manic needle
robust meteor
austere sandal
idle bay
lucid mortar
bleak tulip
#

maybe work on those instead of wasting your finite time on this planet checking the store every hour for deflectors

robust meteor
bleak tulip
#

either way

robust meteor
#

8% has nothing to do with being able to block ranged attacks. its not either way

bleak tulip
#

unless they take deflector off the rare blessings list its not worth worrying about

robust meteor
#

its something completely different

bleak tulip
#

"either way" in the sense that it doesnt matter

robust meteor
#

i'm not sure if we're talking about the same thing lol

clear heath
#

Voidstrike is talking about high tier deflector vs low tier deflector
Repulsed is talking about having deflector at all vs not having it

manic needle
#

I got lucky with deflector blessings, I have a couple T4 and a bunch of lower tier, so if thats one of the blessings you can upgrade to T5 Ill be good

robust meteor
#

yea i probably missed something from earlier

bleak tulip
manic needle
#

Basically Im subject to the arbitrary whims of the devs at this point

robust meteor
#

thanks json

bleak tulip
#

which is what were talking about

bleak tulip
#

currently

clear heath
#

yeah but what if they add it

cyan notch
#

i dont think they will

clear heath
#

maybe they'll just never add t5 and we'll be spared from the cancer

bleak tulip
#

hope so

light citrus
clear heath
#

right now i have exactly 0 tier 4 weapons

#

so uhh

cyan notch
#

do we know if we can replace both blessings

bleak tulip
#

just keep buying every tier 3 blessing

cyan notch
#

or this lame lockout thing agian

bleak tulip
#

not like you got anything else you need the money for

manic needle
clear heath
#

the weapon types i want don't even show up in the shop

bleak tulip
#

eventually blessings should get a balance pass and then you'll be glad you bought a bunch of them

light citrus
#

Emperor's Gift

bleak tulip
light citrus
bleak tulip
#

left click already has suppression anyway and suppression mechanics are wonky right now

alpine portal
#

I keep getting curios as emporer gift... I though I needed the curio stat to make that happen

bleak tulip
#

nah

clear heath
#

All i really want is bloodthirsty on a force sword
but it'll never happen

#

game will never give me one

steel flame
#

Suppression might as well not exist against enemies rn

light citrus
cyan notch
idle bay
bleak tulip
cyan notch
#

it can

steel flame
robust meteor
#

game is early access

#

yes i responded to my own message

bleak tulip
cyan notch
#

theres at least 2 screenshots posted here

clear heath
bleak tulip
#

fair enough

#

darkmass wrong again PartyKirby

cyan notch
#

i dont trust any of those sites

#

i take whatever they post with a jug of salt

robust meteor
#

anyone want to play vt2 and shit talk darktide the entire run?

cyan notch
#

no i have plasteel to farm

#

and shop to check every hour

steel flame
bleak tulip
#

the fuck does bloodthirsty even do, one crit?

#

why are we excited about this again

steel flame
#

Dunno

clear heath
#

I've heard it's 5 seconds of guaranteed crits

#

But even if it's just one, imagine just chaining special crits

cyan notch
#

slaughterer competitor plus who doesnt love free crits with ez activation

bleak tulip
#

if only the blessing descriptions, you know, described the blessings

steel flame
#

We have code monkeys we can ask

robust meteor
bleak tulip
clear heath
#

I wish i could actually obtain one so i could try it

manic needle
cyan notch
bleak tulip
#

and with how many utterly dogshit blessings are in the game i wouldnt have been surprised if bloodthirsty was just one

cyan notch
#

people who had it roll have said its about 5s

bleak tulip
#

well, fuck deflector off forever then

cyan notch
#

deflector + bloodthirsty is what i want

clear heath
#

yeah same

bleak tulip
#

FS finally got a second good blessing

clear heath
#

but good luck with that

#

considering how few people in this server have said they've gotten one

#

i assume it's gotta be extremely rare

#

probably melk only or something

cyan notch
#

its a tier4 only blessing so i imagine its not gonna appear on blues

#

or maybe just a low chance idk

#

and so we have to gamble on upgrading or pray to melk

bleak tulip
#

its probably just on the rare blessings table along with deflector

clear heath
#

melk won't even sell me a force sword

cyan notch
#

deflector isnt that rare tbh i have a bunch on me

manic needle
#

I hope I dont have to rely on Sire Bilk to get Surge/Bloodthirsty

cyan notch
#

but ive not seen any bloodthirsty at all

clear heath
#

probably same rarity as a t4 deflector

bleak tulip
#

its rarer than others, thats all it means

clear heath
#

How many t4 deflectors do you have?

bleak tulip
#

^

#

if its really a t4 only that'd explain it

cyan notch
#

pretty sure it is

#

all the screenshots have it at t4

#

i mean im all for it being able to roll on blues im just expecting it not to

bleak tulip
#

either way its not like we can actively work towards it or anything so this is basically all just make believe

cyan notch
#

no you can!

#

upgrade all your force swords

#

grind plasteel!

bleak tulip
#

yeah nah

clear heath
#

I don't even have enough plasteel to finish all my curios yet

manic needle
#

Sire Bilk will be nice to us surely

#

Keep doing those complete 25 missions weeklies

violet yoke
#

So... Shop RNG.... on my psyker my 2nd 380 gun....

clear heath
#

what if...

bleak tulip
#

last info is that it still sucks

cyan notch
#

i have so many i cant even count em

bleak tulip
#

just keep your points for that last t3 to upgrade a blessing

manic needle
dense cloud
#

plz be surge !!!! 😄

bleak tulip
#

why did you buy literally every FS you got

cyan notch
#

i was hunting for deflector at one point

#

but also too much money

dense cloud
#

omfg mleelpsycher is hte bomb 😄

#

its so nice

cyan notch
#

still keeps going up

dense cloud
#

with fs or antradx 5 axe

manic needle
bleak tulip
#

it just makes it harder for you to sift through it later

clear heath
#

Also one thing i want to try with bloodthirsty:
Switching to staff after bloodthirsty proc for guaranteed crit staff

cyan notch
dense cloud
manic needle
#

Run N' Gun is the biggest meme I swear

#

Does anyone actually get excited about it?

clear heath
#

no

violet yoke
dense cloud
#

i don on my pragatps puf puf run run

clear heath
#

but i have no expectations for staff blessings anyways

dense cloud
#

surge blessing ~~

violet yoke
#

oo my bad

neat inlet
#

do we know if shred blessings on melee weapons still affect staffs?

clear heath
#

they probably do

bleak tulip
#

slaughterer affects BB so yeah probably

clear heath
#

most blessings that buff you seem to work when you switch

neat inlet
#

ah but you have to keep switching back and forth?

bleak tulip
#

the timer seems to just run until its out

#

so yeah if you want to keep the buff up you likely gotta switch back with shred

#

sounds like more trouble than its worth to get to 10% crit

neat inlet
#

and would unstable power still apply in the same way?

#

or does this only activate when you have the melee out

clear heath
#

Should just be always active

bleak tulip
#

havent tested, why dont you test it

dense cloud
#

T_T stil no surge

neat inlet
#

I'll try it and see

clear heath
#

All or nothing, the one that scales power with stamina, always scales with your current stamina even when the weapon isn't out

#

I doubt the peril one is any different, but who knows

stuck basalt
# neat inlet

unstable capped at 4% power lol, it is joke blessing.

clear heath
#

yeah but what if one day we find out it's essential for reaching some important BB breakpoint?

#

i mean, it won't

#

but maybe

dense cloud
#

melee psycher is sopo mutch fun 😄

bleak tulip
#

I mean 6% is enough to shift breakpoints on BB for some mobs so yeah it could help

clear heath
#

"lemme smack that poxwalker for more brain burst damage"

bleak tulip
#

I mean its nice to have but I dont see it being a core thing

#

too inconsistent

loud osprey
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meanwhile the vet just swing the power sword and the crusher is dead

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If you have soulblaze, the dot ticks will also stack up headtaker for you as long as the weapon is out

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burn enemy for headtaker stacks before BB
gigabrain play

bleak tulip
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also those are rookie numbers

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gotta get them numbers up

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lmao

bleak tulip
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slaughterer good

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I love how half that video is me waiting for my F to come back because I was to lazy to do it again

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man, i swear darkmass is just mostly wrong with their blessing lists
Like i think 3 of these aren't supposed to be here and it's missing slaughterer and bloodthirsty

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Wait, can force sword even get uncanny strike?

bleak tulip
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gameslantern has other shit thats wrong too so ayy lmao

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I feel like most of these are wrong

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its probably one guy that's getting bored of updating it

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I don't remember Hammerblow, Trauma, Riposte, Uncanny Strike, or Superiority being on FS

light citrus
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oh wait no, uncanny strike is on fs

bleak tulip
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its called precognition

robust meteor
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i have one with riposte

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It's missing executor and shred too

bleak tulip
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because thatd be funny

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very similar symbols, not actually the same

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precog is just better