#psyker-class
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ive nvr crashed on both gamepass n steam
Maybe I’m just unlucky
ppl r saying the btr your rig, the more likely u wil crash XD
some people are experiencing a lot more crashes
what settings are you using
ya it does seem like a lot of the frequent crashes are ppl with really nice rigs
im on a 3070ti/11770k and i have crashed once in about a week now
Packing a 3090 on max settings. Still not many crashes.
That does make me wonder what actually causes the crashes
yeah its really weird nobody really knows what the cause is
Maybe it the DLSS
seems to happen at random to random unlucky people
I used it
6600xt & 8700k for me w/ almost no crashing
That could be a factor
Maybe it's also raytracing if only high end PCs default to it?
i had dlss on since the start and not many crashes
i use fsr 2.0
I’m gonna check it out tomorrow since it 3am
hope ur experience gets better on steam
yo aren't we supposed to be arguing bout stuff
Ah shit you're right
Yeahh, a lot of us give eachother shit but we hope your experience gets better.
i heard u smell funny
Is that because I run KNIFE?
ya knives are stinky
knife push attack is actually so good
Yeah well trauma staves are ALSO stinky
the serrations collect nasty stuff
Like blood because it KILLS stuff GOOD
ok ur taking it too far
Truma is like your first fire staff in vermin
do not talk about my trauma
💀
Literally crisismas
literally!
lmao
The next one will ship in 3-5 business days
time to grind a trauma true solo for a week to establish dominance
you need to talk to cal, last time iplayed with him he was running knife & crucican roulette autogun lmao
ive been enjoying some purge lately myself but its no trauma
doesnt take kneecaps so no comparison really
true, juggling is also way more satisfying than stunning
Can't palpatine their kneecaps
ya you really establish dominiance vs the crushers
excuse me sir i told you to sit down
there is turbulence please remain seated
"On this trip you may experience: Heavy turbulence, head trauma, death. Have a nice day"
Honestly I'd much rather take a trauma than a surge, but that's just me
Yeahhh. I can understand the use for it but when shit hits the fan you basically just turn into diet zealot with some cc.
Then again, purg is just diet zealot with CC. Only with unlimited ammo
and i absolutely hate how useless it is vs unarmored
really hate having such a specialized kit when pugging
yeahhh it's really a premade staff
Purg is the second worst pug staff, but you can def make it work with the right KB build.
agreed, ab setup is bad in pugs
20 minutes of re-rolling and i have doubts that crit can roll 5% 🙂
lmao it exists i promise
is there an easy way to power level my psyker
It'll come around. If you have the mats, it's def worth.
if you have several friends yes, you can run damn on your main then character swap before end of map
Uhh... Run T2 until 15. T3 until 30.
If you have friends, run 1 with you in T3 to power level to 15.
woah what i can switch from my level 30 to low and get the xp from it
Yo I never thought of this
It does kinda rob you of the natural progression if it's your first time levelling. If you're doing it again on the same class fuckit send it.
whatever char is there on mission completion gets the rewards
I've gotten all my classes to 30 besides my psyker and I really don't feel like grinding it again lol
it loves to roll +20% sprint or 25% maniacs - two most often 4 pip perks
Yeah that's fair. It's a slow day today but maybe hit up L4G or even this chat when it gets more lively and we can help out in a pinch.
Merry Christmas everyone
Photoshop!
Merry crimbus!
you guys wanna see somethin real sexy?
humana humana
I'll settle for 4% crit for now or my breakfast will go cold 🙂
omg ur never gonna go pro missing that 1%
Perfect ranged weapon? Force bolter.
unlimited ammo
https://youtu.be/h-zHvAeWLBQ I gotta know if this was just an ad-lib or not.
This time with subtitles and a bit louder audio.
Is this breaking the 4th wall?
Viable?
As a gun? Yes. For Psyker? No
That's a pretty good one if you're going pistol psyker
Can't recommend doing guns on psyker, much less autopistol
That is a nice roll though
People will recommend Trauma with a straight face in T5, me included. The gun's fine lol.
If run it t3 for fun
Trauma at least has the benefit of tossing a bunch of enemies around
Even if it's not optimal, it's better than the autopistol
By a considerable margin
True, but you can do that to a lesser degree with just your melee. CC's not totally off the table
A very, very lesser degree
hello emprer its me umm my head a splode. Yah its super cool you giving me me gifts and all. But I think the brutal momentum mkv was ment for my zelot.
If you want to use a gun, Psyker gets 0 benefit (that other classes have) and you're giving away the Psyker's unique option
It's not even a good niche meme pick
But BB is so strong you don't need to use a staff even in damnation 
probably not
Ehhh, it does synergize a bit with Flayer. Playing devil's advocate here.
Flayer works on everything
Plus if you run a KB build, your staff/gun isn't really as* important as it's now your secondary purpose
It does indeed work on everything
If you run a kb build, you could have something infinitely more useful with a purg/surge in your secondary slot
True, I'd personally agree with the purg pick to cover more bases
Vet gets reload & stability perks + volley fire, Zealot gets better DR + penetration with ult, Ogryn gets bigness
Psyker gets nothing from using a gun
Even as a joke
Going gunker does trade that CC for secondary ranged kill potential. I guess it depends on what you personally want to do.
Then you're better off playing vet
If you want ranged kill potential wouldn't you just choose any other class?
Psyker has great ranged with BB and void
This convo is using BB as a primary role for context. But otherwise, yeah
Eh, I wouldn't call BB great
Usable so long as the rest of your build can cover most situations
Ehhh, no staff will ever cover all bases
The void comes the closest to, but still comes up a bit short sometimes
It's the longest range skill in the game that has 100% accuracy, that's enough
Instakills soft specials with stacks on Heresy too
But also has massive downsides
Like, if you have time to target said enemy at range and there is nothing else that has a chance of closing the distance on you and beating your face in
Massive peril gen, long cast time, multiple casts for harder targets and especially in damn
If you're willing to put up with the downsides of BB, it's pretty okay if you want to make it your build identity
That's what the homies are for
Ehhh, yes and no. BB first CC second is a pretty reliable T5 standard.
I don't even know what a BB focused build is. You can't exactly buff BB very much through feats
I mean idk that's like saying you want to make a grenade-only vet which is technically possible but also garbage
You can cc multiple targets with a surge staff.
Aura, peril resist, any 25, KB.
And permanently, not for half a cast
True. If you want to use BB you also gotta factor in what your staff is good at.
Yeah, all of that amounts to very little of a buff for BB lol
I'd argue bb takes up more of psykers possible power than grenades do for vet
Eh... Yes and no. It saves precious time on T5, but it also requires a ton of investment
It also is the difference between 2 casts and 5 casts in a fight
If you really wanna get into skill synergy, AB doesn't even work well with purg lol
Unless there's an elite that's too far away for me to hit with my staff and there's nothing priority closer than that, I'm not using BB. Force sword or purge/void does more faster
Ye, that's pretty much the KB loop.
Set everything on fire, stun a massive crowd, search for long range targets
I guess the vet would also have to be asleep at the wheel
I've uh, learned not to trust the vet on T5. They're great and all but their job is too important for something not to be done.
You can feasibly play vet and never touch your grenades, but psyker explicitly is designed with forcing you to use it semi consistently.
True, nades are great for T3 but other than that it just scatters the horde.
you can play psyker without touching your BB
Or at least, trying to incentivize you to do so for optimal function, but people don't like it or charges and often ignore it
You can, but then you lose out on the charge benefits. Which people do.
Including myself.
You definitely can, much like how a psyker can play without touching a staff
I don't bother stacking anymore.
Buuut there's downsides
It's tedious and annoying
You're not wrong but also I think that's people being shit at the game and not anything to do with vet not overshadowing BB utility
no,you take the charge from kill in coherency, so you are always max stack in high intensity engagment
Yeah, basically. Or the vet has elite killing on the mind and ignores shotgunners/gunners for some reason.
I literally got pick n mix naturally because my vet was power swording a horde for some reason lel
That's why I pick Counterfire at 30
Counterfire is SO GOOD
Playing vet with counter is part of why I shit on bb so hard.
counterfire is just by far the best feat in the game
Kinetic Flayer and Psychic communion keep you at 4 stacks without worrying about it. Which frees you to focus on the things Psyker is actually good at. Namely stun locking any big threats
I can mass murder all the ranged units with ez targeting while also giving my team wallhacks as to where everything is
While as psyker I bb one target every couple of seconds
like not even funny. You can easily get 100% uptime in volley fire, and on top of that you get extra weak spot damage
I agree. Though I tend to prioritize the ranged trash if there's no elites posing a threat.
I also do that
Being able to use BB through guardrails and fences would be life changing
You should be doing that unless your frontline is collapsing
That ranged trash shits all over your zealot/psyker, just started doing it to help the team out. Feels goodman
also vet is the only one who can oneshot crusher at any level
With a bolter?
Plasma
plasma
Ah, gotcha
Flak armored enemies is more useful than maniacs on pruga right?
I run XII so yeah lol
and the +50% ogryn damage on voley fire
There's way, way more flak enemies than maniacs
Yeah, flak and crit is the standard
Plus maniacs die in one burst anyway
Give or take a second or two on T5
it does not affect soulblaze damage rightµ?
Thats what I thought
I wonder if soulblaze is one of the many things that's bugged or at least has incorrect tooltips cause it feels like fake news
I mean, AB is just straight up wrong lol
It seems to? Doing 3 on a mauler, and 1 on a crushers ticks in meet grinder.
crusher take less damage anyway
iirc status effects always target the chest
So it depends on what the target has there
yeah, but what i mean is that i don't feel like bleed/fire/soulblaze are affected by extra damage/power perks/plessing
Maulers are flack
but I don't have a definitive proof
Idk how to even test that lol other then just see what the tics do
this is a great point if you have like a flamer zealot and ogryn and if the vet goes down/has a horde on him/brain afk/is split from the team etc then you can still handle high priority ranged threats well
rip this week fellas
fist deflector ive seen lol
heavy spam i think dosent count as a chain
does that not count as a chain?
oh
heavy spam is a chain
might be wrong tho
limbsplitter is great if u r using anim cancel
first 380 ive seen at melk tho 👀
I kinda like the mk 1
Id probably buy that if I had extra currency
for the shop level, what rating should i be looking at? total, or the one on modifiers field?
modifiers
total adds all the perks and blessings (which you dont really need a score for bc you can just look at them)
i mean i heard shop gets better gear if you have higher rating weapons in inventory. but what rating is relevant for that? modifier rating or total rating?
shop is complete rng, ur gear has no effect on it
so probably total
but depends on how much you want to spec into that for this ambiguous "bit"
Kenitic deflection?
methinks
Blessings?
Yah it saves psyker a lot. People forget the bb is the worst ability they get and its still pretty decent
the damage is low
Ok that was an exaggeration idk if bb is the worst.
what is bb?
i'll try to roll it more later on, provided that there will be no post-xmas-hangover hotfix that will change how re-rolls work 🙂
I'm assuming brain burst
oooooo
I love brain burst
its real good if you get the cooldown reduction trinkets and get 6 warp charges and the fast cast lvl 30 perk
at what lvl do i get my flamer staff?
sometimes I want to watch the world burn
Level 11+ but it’s RNG
kinetic barrage feels like +100% speed not 25%
Tru
fs get the numbers wrong again?
Nah just feels significant
no way it's just 25% faster
wdym rng? Are unlocks you get on lvl up rng?
You don’t unlock them
You gain access to them in the shop
its then RNG if@they appear the shop or not
so essentually you unlock them, and them look for them in store
oh, ok tyty
was gonna play palpatine-style but then found out that datamind psyker class has something called "chain lightning", so looking to playing flame staff and saving up my Palpatine energies for next psyker class XD
Tbh we already have a chain lighting staff
yes, but having chain lightning staff together with chain lightning ability is twice as fun XD
The same character can swap and change between feats and weapon types
True true
I mean I swap between Lasgun, Flame Staff and Lightning Staff
then Chain Sword, Dagger and Dueling sword all build depending
no force sword on psyker? what is this heresy?
Eh it’s overrated af
It’s good don’t get me wrong
But chain sword provides a similar abilities and looks so much cooler
what?
It has a very similar special attack which is the FS swords main draw
But looks cooler
now that u mention it its probably 100% yea
no wonder it feels really good
shhh dont let them nerf it
I’ll stick with Ascendents Blaze idk
absurdly fast
Le bang
im not engaging warp protocol
I still think when you hit 100% peril you should instant die
And a chaos spawn should rip out your chest
we need more bosses
bosses should drop loot
More silly hats for siblings
There odd
Hooded Ogryn though - that 's beyond awesome!
always self bb
Lmao
I mean you would probably be able to see your own eyebrows with that forehead
So it’s understandable
hey one day I'll be the unique one for still wearing the t2 psyker set I guess
when everybody has those ugly goggles or a purchased skin
I dont like how any of these look lol
same i wss just running red clothes with no random tubes
but then gave up and went full goggles and tubes
same haha
I go black mask with googles
The white shirt from the first Psyker cosmetics
Black trousers from warp battery
There should be psyker set: Bathrobe, pink fluffy slippers, oversized boxers, and sleevless-t-shirt.
like I dont mind the t3 chest and legs, I even wear the legs since the t2 legs are black anyway but the grey hood doesnt match and the red hood doesnt gel with the black chest sooo
and the ultimate edition back pack
and I really dont like the goggles
the backpack is really silly imo
why did I get psyker eyes when I just cover them
it’s great
like really just a backpack
although we dont have other accessories to compare with
I dont use it on any skin lol
idk I like having my pots and pans
im here to kill, not to grill
I mean
For me it gives of Gunpsyker vibes
Gotta keep the ammo somewhere
More room to carry your team as well
Backpack is for rations for Orgyn, to make him stick closer to Psyker.
Exactly
You can do both with Purgatus Staff though
Im just happy to see more staff skins
im way too spoiled by dueling sword
effectivelty inf dodges, i use another weapon i forgot not to spam dodge
Did force sword as well had infinite dodges?
I like Kinetic Flayer with the combat knife because then I sometimes get to punch someone's head off.
so, has anyone gotten the surge blessing on staff
Surge blessing...?
Is this a some kind of a leak?
By the way. Does someone using Atrox MK IV on psyker?
It seems so.
I see, thanks.
https://files.catbox.moe/so34ii.jpeg
High resolution version
My gratitude.
This link has some more stuff in it alongside some cosmetics already in circulation
Looks like new hairstyles in the works too
I need more shiny version of completely bold hairstyle 🙂
And toilet stuff too tho.
So why do you guys think that Satellite dishes are in vogue for most loyalist psykers?
They better get signal from Emprah.
Now we know how the one Psyker voice speaks with their beloved.
It give nice echo when you sit in toilet while you sit in toilet.
It's my Axe - i'm speaking with my Axe 🙂 I'm sure of it 🙂
Imagine having an axe possessed by a shard of the Emperor in the same way Daemons sometimes possess weapons, though
Oh my god
This is some HR Giger shit
I am in love
trash blessing waste my 374 pr 😭
When you're trying to sneak past the daemonhost and your homie look at you like this
oh are the new cosmetics out
Thought they come out weekly or something
that was in the trailer too
Are these new clothes?
Future sales in cash shop, leaked.
only paid, rest recolors
So yet another thing downgrades from vt2, there atleast we had different funny helms
Wait, they are not gonna add actual new cosmetics for available free?
At some point they may... to give players some incentive to play some more.
I know what must be added to psyker's outfits - untied straitjacket !
my brain cant handle all these choices need 4 only
I remember reddit post right after dev post about overcomplicated shop - Shop too complex - brain hurts, uninstalled game 🙂
Had the easiest damnation high intensity of my life
Wiped in first minute?
worth to buy?
the two blessing are great imo. that charge rate though
i see
that moment when the torture is finally over, and you can go back to playing the game
I would absolutely buy it but it depends on what your current voidstrike staff looks like (and if you prefer a different weapon).
best fs ive s een
the new torture
nice. although, it goes up another tier. still wish I could finally land any deflector/slaughterer though
is it? never saw higher
worth rerolling anything on this staff, or should I save resources for something better?
yeah there is tier 4 for blessings. slaughterer caps at 15% a stack at t4

I was in a four Psyker heresy group last night. It was a lot of fun.
though one thing I think is pretty clear is that Psyker lacks a lot of DPS
does purgatus count as soul blaze for the purpose of feats, or is it a different kind of burn?
the assassination boss went down very slowly
No one brought a FS?
was gonna say 4 FS should shred a boss
the dot does, not the direct dmg
if you want to shred the assassination boss, a chainsword would be a better pick
Merry xmas indeed...
i kinda feel bad for my psykers whenever i play them because i keep them at max peril near constantly and that shit has to hurt
Depends on wich demon faction gets closer first
Since we only fighting nurglites, he probaly gets a fart rampage
Thats why he farts so hard he explodes
Brrraaaap
Youe daily reminder gun psyker is kewl an gud 
I run Mk12 lasgun psyker unironically
Autoguns 🙏
I haven’t tested at all, but nothing I’ve seen by happenstance has led me to that conclusion
I try not to get vored on principle
Is it only me or peril block stopped working on bosses and crushers?
Today I got 1-tapped at full toughness, 30% peril and 70% respectively
attacks just ignored my block with force sword (before I could easily tank plague ogryns with ease)
Was it an overhead?
game's just teasing me now
I like the base stats on that. Perfect for pure CC.
nope, an arm sweep - I could block those week ago easily
yeah, i'll hang onto it to test it as pure CC but i'd rather another dump stat than damage 😛
Weird, been tanking just fine on my end.
at least in my sesssion peril blocks sstopped working for any harder attack, yay
Darktide is "working" for me I guess
crit chance better imo
will this happen on a low conflict version..
Makes me kinda sad, coming from v2 the psyker just feel like a really weak sienna or am I missing something
i find psyker a lot more fun to play than sienna
yeah, especially when you dont hurt you self when venting
probably not
As if thp was ever an issue xD
Ya but Sienna's magic sword is better than the force sword
Eh, it fills a different role.
Flame Sword was always pretty mid in all its attacks except for block-canceling to spam H1.
Other than that, it had relatively poor cleave, middling single target, and awful anti-armor.
Force sword leans on Block-Push and Deflector the way Flame Sword leaned on H1.
Kinda what iv noticed so far too
I hate how they make you pay for a regular guardsmen look. The Psyker outfit (the one with the recolour of the red hood we have in the store RN) looks good. The rest is pretty meh or something I wound put my money into. Wondering why we don't have sister of battle cosmetics (maybe future class or it will be in the next batch?)
It's got decent single target and armor pen with its special, but it's pretty mid at everything else.
I’m just trying to figure out what to do to be worth having in a party over the other classes
Man if I could get a different MK of force sword with some cleaving attacks in there? chef's kiss
I'd be a happy Psyker xD
Just seems lacking spec so far
From what I've seen, Psyker is a bit of a jack-of-all-trades.
You may not beat out other classes in any one thing, but you're extremely versatile and with the right setup, the best at swapping roles on the fly to cover gaps in stuations.
this, in a nutshell
you can do everything but you're not a specialist
precognition is shit, you cannot change my mind
Blaze.
is this just straight up the best?
I'd like to see some quality of life changes for Psykers. Warp Charge duration needs to be increased, and Brain Burst should be changed so that you get a warp charge for brainbursting a target, not just for killing a target
I think they all suck tbh xD been using the warp charges on kill for ez life
No because you have to go out of your way to set up good blazes.
but the payoff is huge.
Howdy psyker chat, are we still doing stick measuring contests.
gotcha
I absolutely hated it, It always appear on my perfectly distributed Force sword
Depends on what you're going for. The one that sets enemies on fire is really fun. You can do an all flame build, stack stacks with passives and keep burning heretics with your purge staff.
You have baked-in anti-special/elite with BB, so no matter what weapons you take, you have that.
Ult is a great "Oh shit" button.
FS with deflector and Kinitic Deflector gives you a discount slab shield.
Purgatus Staff, properly rolled, will absolutely annihilate anything close to mid range while BB can fill in if your Vet is lacking/downed/dead etc.
so spam is more consistent but less impact and blaze the other way around?
well, no, blaze can also be inconsistent. I do sometimes still use it even when I run voidstrike, for low intensity matches
It works up to heresy. Then BB is only useful for snipers and shield ogryns. In my experience at least.
BB's key in heresy and damnation too
burst is still fine to take out elite gunners.
BB is useful for thinning out all the little ranged guys
all three of them are kinda interchangeable and fairly okayish
Because soul blaze dmg stacks multiplicitively, if you apply a couple stacks with Purgatus, then ult with 4-6 water charges, you'll WRECK just about anything short of a crusher/boss
blaze is almost expected when running purgatus, tho.
since you can take cover while brainbursting
good to know thankyou!
if you're really quick about it and get some good crits on purgatus
I haven't played in a bit. Did they fix surge crits?
you can go straight to 15 with ascendant
Surge crits aren't broken.
No idea, I don't use surge enough to know.
i got a quick question, maybe somebody knows if the psyker headburst counts as a headshot kill?
my aim with guns is TRASH and im trying to do the 20kills in a row
not when randoms just run in and kill everything
Does it have a yellow hitmarker when you BB a target but dont kill
use voidstrike, wait for a horde, and then just unleash charges into the horde at head level.
it is a true case of get good but that takes effort
it's not really get good so much as "hope you dont get griefed'.
you have all game to slowly pick your shots
If your aim is off chances are your sens is too high
The explosions don't get in the way?
yeah thats a fair shout
void only explodes when it stops
Yes, it counts for the penance.
XD
really?
Yes.
sedation headpop only here we go xD
sedition and gl.
all my achievements happen randomly for some reason. I spent ages trying to get cliffhanger, and then when I was playing a mission I just randomly got it somewhere.
BB's are considered headshots for the penance Serial Killer.
just use voidstaff 
Question : for the sword force wych stat do you priotise ?
all of them except warp resist
I feel like the voidstrike charge hitbox is generous, so you can get a headshot with it fairly easily
Upgrade or garbage ?
my aim is terrible, but with the voidstrike staff I just turn into a sniper
looks like a reasonable sword to me
worth putting an upgrade or two into to see how it rolls
I'm using a 365 sword, just with more spread stats
my best roll is a 357 so far
shit blessings though, hoping we get to reroll them soon
Hope we get actual crafting back
arent the blessings supposed to be upgradeable inst ead of rerollable?
for the moment i use this
we'll see, hopefully not though
After new year, we will have a new update i suppose
or rather, hopefully both
I wonder what Psyker related thing they'll manage to break this time
they nerf psy ?
Hate the shop so far, end up with masses of gold with nothing of worth to buy. Game turned into check shop every hour then go watch Netflix for 59 mins
there's that damn blessing again
I pressume this is what Female Savant Psykers see.
they make it sound like you get a buff, and then instead they add epilepsy mode
I'm extra pissed seeing it on nice base
not good ?
I'd say keep it till you can swap it out
get that shit on Dueling sword and you are golden
ok thx
what's the main blessing you want on force sword other than deflector
crit for my taste
I mean I use the fire perk
you can crit with special action
But that’s because of a specific build I made
Dude that’s good
I'd want Quell on Weakspot, bot because the overhead attacks are easy to hs with reliably, and because there aren't really any particularly good blessings other than Deflector :/
should I try to reroll sprint into block efficiency?
Deflectore is amazing !
Yeah
That’s like a solid FS tho
Very solid, yessir.
It doesn’t matter if you get low modifiers if all the points are in the useful bits
nice
yoo, anyone wanna do going out with a bang?
yeh i saw that on reddit, they still havent fixed that?
veterans are even stealing our penances now
lol
There heretics
and did you succesfull to make penance malleus ?
Yeah
Id like to see that veteran try to put on that jacket
I love it how I get it by accident on a class I shouldn’t get it on
Similar situation with the Ogryn fear of dashing 40 meters
It can be done on Zealot
💀
you think its easier on a veteran?
Do it lmao
ive got one with a plasma, but i read that the warp blast does more dmg
true
headpopping still works for the serialkiller achivement
you don't keep the bloodthirsty guaranteed crit on weapon swap, too bad
Add that to the pile of software engineering red flags lol
how long does it last
I didn't time it but someone said around 5 seconds
if it's not that it's at least close enough
can u do special into special with crit
Does Warp Absosrption perk proc from Force Sword Special attack?
psyker needs more love
yes, you can chain the special for guaranteed special attack crits
for the penance Malleum : if 4 psyker in same game do it it woks ?
also did someone experienced that while brain bursting is still winding up you cant switch to other weapon smoothly
Yeah it does
best way to do it no ?
forrealsies?
so
if im the psyker who activates the demonhost, but i didn't get any or maybe only 1 bb off
it'll still give it if 90% of the dmg is from bb?
confirm pls
The question was whether you could get the penance with 4 psykers in the team. Might be some confusion there.
so it still has to be the one psyker doing all 90% bb? well then it makes no diff what class they were
why would that matter
They probably phrased it wrong, is all.
hmm
well. guess I'm still not getting it
I can't even bring myself to ask anyone to do it
it's such a cursed concept
hey, don't play the game for 5 minutes so I can slowly whittle down this demonhost. also block it for me.
yeah, all three of you.
just stand there.
yes sorry english is not my mother thonge , thx to rewrite 🙂
The other two are getting the specials and hordes off you.
oh boyo
It's definitely a team effort.
i did forget, it's on heresy.
please, take care of the actual game where I'm doing this.
@vivid schooner
You can also do a best of nurgle solo if you find a ladder
I'd need a nurgle and nothing else to spawn. and also the bots to all be dead but I guess on heresy that's not too hard to expect.
Is there a dump stat on the force sword?
But again, rest of the team has to watch the show
Warp resist
i can solo any of the bosses minus demonhost even if I'm the target, they're all fairly easy to dodge
All good. Think the general concensus is that you'll still need to do the 90 percent damage solo. I haven't tested it otherwise.
ty!
but man, it's still cursed.
making them stand still was bad enough
i forgot they have to kill things but NOT progress the mission
whatever, I don't need it. grumble grumble
Making friends isn't that herculean a task. But I get it.
Just get some friends, get them to do all the work for you and then snatch the trophies before their eyes.
It's the only way to join the Cult of the Goggles
the friendship or the penance.
equally terrible things
My friends all got it
they offered to carry me through it
but nawh, it's gross.
Yeah, it's the devs fault the penances are like they are
the idea of making my friends do dumb shit I find unfun
and they find unfun.
it hits me w rong
Yeah
its a one time thing
Then just don't do it, end of story?
u just do it and get it out of the way
Indeed. I shall only complain about it once a week.
well, not true. even the bad ones I cleared, I still find to be badly designed.
Go complain on the forums
But I guess it's immeasurably complex to change the penances 
I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt and assume that the penance design was not high on the list of things to fix, given the state of the game.
and I can wait.
Burn tick rate
Or more like the direct damage attack tick rate during secondary attack
Not the DOT (soulblaze) tick rate
Damage is not an important on the purgatus
so.... pretty bad then?
You want high Burn
gotcha
Well not bad just not important
gotcha
More damage is always more damage if you don't have to choose
question with the Blaze talent on 30, I was running it with the 6 stack BB one on 25, and it just felt hugely plate-spinny
is there a massive difference in effectiveness between 4 and 6 stacks?
was not running Purgatus staff
lack of good info probably
can't blame em this shit is so unclear
On Damnation there is a difference just not massive
On Damnation, 4 stacks is not enough to kill ranged with ult but 6 stacks is
However, getting to 6 stacks requires so much work that it's not worth it.
Take 15% ult CDR which is massive as it is for the whole team
Then take kinetic flayer
You will get to 4 stacks ez without even focusing
Don't sweat on the "I don't have X stacks I can't ult", just try to get your peril 50 or above, then ult before any elites start to die. When the elites are gone, you have 4 stacks and ult ready to go.
If you can see the horde coming then you can BB 3 trash mobs, flame the wave when it comes in to proc the kinetic flayer for a 4th stack, then ult and keep flaming. It will eat the whole wave.
okay thanks for the advice here. I play Damnation so this is useful. I was running Kinetic Flayer, voidstrike and the one that gives 4% chance for passive stack gain, and spammy ult and that felt way better than 6 charges and soulblaze
Yoooo what is this
i will try this build instead
Paykineitcs wrath is garbage
It is unreliable damage boost and even at the highest it's not enough to do anything meaningful
Real purge builds for damnation are 122132 and 121132, where the latter is training wheels to get the hang of it. You should switch to 15% ult CDR as soon as you can position yourself better and LOS the ranged mobs.
on the 15 row, do you run the talent that essentially offsets whatever you have on the 30 row?
like if I have spam F, do I run 1 on the 15row? And with Blaze, do I run 2 on the 15 row?
15% cdr on elites is great but i still have to run 4% getting charge
or is it staff dependent?
my veteran friend is running a elite killing build
I have a stupid question about build notation. Is 1 -- talent at the top of column or at the bottom?
Top
I think depends on what build youre trying to run
Thx.
111111 would be all top
bruh this is the best stat staff ive ever seen
top
it's a christmas gift from god emperor
With void strike I highly recommend to try out:
222133 or 122133
Especially if you have 2% or more transfer peril on it.
The ability to pop your ult and open up crushers and bulwarks with BB as well as quickly eliminate 5 snipers/gunners is much more useful than warp reset stack
With inner tranquility and transfer peril you are quelling for more than you use to shoot with void as long as there are trash on the way and the ult will not reset this.
So the basic loop is ult (yes, even with 0 peril) -> pop gunners / snipers, open bulwarks and crushers after if needed, start void staffing once fast BB is over
Basically you only want to BB when you can ult unless there is like a ranged special/elite that absolutely needs to die.
Posting it twice no less.
I'll try this, thanks
I don't have the awesome blessing that dissapates perils on mine sadly
never seen it in shop
same with Force Sword Deflector
Yes and no. I get 4 stacks of warp almost instantly back whenever I ult as I use purge staff.
Need a Better 2nd blessing
Just made sure to give an example
i'm interested in playing with everything
that;'s just how I enjoy these games
keeps it fresh for me
But you cant purge heretics with holy fire
Playing all the other classes makes you hyper aware of what your team needs.
no one using 3 on the 5row eh
You know where to stand as an Ogryn so your Vet doesn't cry
yeah
seems like the clutchiest toughness regen, but the worst for tanking a horde
Or where to go on the Zealot so your team isn't suppressed
And what to shoot on your Vet so your team doesn't get gunned down
dont be that veteran just pushing your foe alone w a fucking shovel
I've got em all at 30 with all missions cleared on Damnation, Psyker was my last
it's been a real struggle tbh
I prefer quietitude, it's not the best in the action but it can give you toughness on demand, especially if your team kills everything
A player who plays all 4 classes will generally be better or more team-minded
Quietitude is my thing because I have a preference for passives that don't need much brainpower
It "just works"
agreed, makes sesne really u will just have a better understanding of the game naturally
Psyker gets a whole lot easier once you unlock and get your hand on the staves.
Psyker is kinda the only class you need a complete build to enjoy
definitely felt like that
It's funny because eventually you experiment with a Gun Psyker after not wanting guns
And you realise it's a legit choice in some situations.
yes
Well, I like Quietitude because I can just use my peril-heaviest tool in the arsenal and then refill my toughness with that, without needing to kill.
Psyker gets a lot better when you unlock lvl 30 because the last column middle and bottom feats are so strong
Covers the only thing we don't have an answer for. Normal range doods.
I hate guns after getting my first staff at level fuking 23
But yeah, Psyker both needs a good build but also doesn't feel like the best of builds exceeds the performance of other classes without feats.
Legit? Yes. Working? Yes. Optimal? No.
recon lasgun uses too much ammo
If you're using it like a newbie vet and peppering Poxwalkers sure.
It's not as good as you would think.
You must have infantry lasgun in higher difficulties just because you won't otherwise have enough ammo.
Ammo efficiency is superbly a skill issue most of the time lmao
I'm aware. Its a legitimate build for certain situations regardless.
Depends on the staff choice. I was leveling with surge and was never reliant on the final tree, it felt pretty good grinding up as a CC space wizard.
You aren't really dragging your team down with it.
I use gun psyker on malice script running just because it's a nice change and I can just pew pew my way through
staff is juts better option when you have a bolter or a veteran in team
they breath emmo
ammo
Yeah surge works even with all the feats disabled (although you are really gimping yourself if you don't pick a toughness regen feat)
It's just very team depepndant and you can't really carry a wipe with it. With a capable team tho it's one of the strongest builds there is for Psyker. And the only real requirement to play it is to just have a surge with good quelling speed and warp resist.
TBH sometimes I wish I had a gun just to compensate for terrible teammates, but that's why I take Voidstrike
Voidstrike is truly the "jack of all trades" staff
Yeah, for sure.
Trauma... Just gives trauma for the user.
Especially the mental kind
Ah a fellow artillery here
Much tears were shed when my first 500+ staff turned out to be a trauma.
Of course, I must bonk the sniper that is 60 meters away with my fully charged cannonball
And that is a trauma itself
When people think its good and they start spamming it and dispersing hordes
Including throwing some behind the team
Stat total doesn't matter.
It's the base stat total + distribution as well as what kind of blessings and perks you get that matters.
You can have a 470 staff and a 510 staff where the 470 staff just out performs the 510 because the 510 has useless stats and poor blessings & perks
I guess the name of Trauma staff is fitting. Just throw the enemy behind your front line and I guarantee you the staff has lived to its name.
I can hear the vet crying

I am sorry siblings but... I got dwarf fortress and I don't know if I have the strength to leave it for the front
I've been playing DRG for a break.
The game will always be here.
ENGAGING CRITICAL TAR.........I'M DOWN!
The vet who's in the open and overeliant on camo getting shot by a sniper never gets old.
siblings help. i tried sharpshooter but their entire chat is just ff14 lol
lol
My Vet with countershot
classic vet
I was tempted to just use the Warden tag.
must return to psyker superiority
Its one thing to go slightly off topic/tangent on a naturally evolving conversation
It's another to be a dick and take over a channel
And I say this as a member of the FFXIV discord

all i wanted to know was which feats are good cuz vet feats are boring as hell
They're boring but reliable. It depends on what you wanna do and what weapons you're using
i went with a cannoness style build so basically boltor and chainsword lol
or well power sword
Bio optics, so new psykers can get their explosions and pick 'n mix.
Unless they have Counterfire

crit was good on a surge staff right?
Yes.
Yarp.
hmmm there is one with crit based on peril in store
You could show builds with this lol
The best roll you can get with a surge is team mates with good DPS
That's a good one.
i just really dont like using surge much :(
Me neither. Its still good to have on standby
Stack peril/warp resistance and spam that lightning against relevant targets.
how is this
Charge rate is the best dump stat, imo
my current build is just "purge with holy fire"
Found this the other day lmao
Gimme.

also appareantly my build melts peoples fps
This is really good
Can't really go wrong with flak.
I think no need to change
Possibly unarmored to maniac. But that's more down to playstyle
Since I target trappers/mutants the most with surge
No Veterans are talking bout Minecraft now
lol
Bless the Emperor and his ardent belief that giving me an endless stream of axes will make me a better psyker. Seven in a row, I can use one for every day of the blessed week.
I would change unarmored to another damage bonus it has decent damage against yeah
Any lovely MK V's?
Carapace is a great idea.
It deals more damage to armored enemies
Might as well enhance that
Flak and Carapace has you basically covered
They're all fairly average sadly. Only a MK II is hitting into the 70s and that is on mobility.
cant wait for the "for the emperor" button
Play Zealot, this class already have.
Beneficent Emperor*
He's a bit grating when he grovels a bit but man
His skill lines are so fucking pissed off its great.
YOUUU HAVE BEEN JUUUUDGED
Blood for The Emprah, Skulls for The Golden Throne, brother.
So far i found only 2 things i'm enjoying while playing Zealot:
- Flamer
- Flamer
Have you tried bonk with a hammer?
cleanse in holy fire
but ofcourse purgatus better ;)
i do. I feel utterly disappointed by it.
Thunder Hammer needs its users to have their individual Eureka moments
Like when you chunk a Monstrosity for 30% of its health
Then you can rationalise making the effort to work around its clunkiness
And after bonking Monstrocity in a couple of bonks - you get back to bonking regular heretics - and it feels like toy rubber hammer...
Seems you are young, need to make things fast, be patient, grow up and you'll understand the power and beauty of the hammer.
Eviscirator - that one i liked. Hammer - meh...
best blessing design 15 out of 10 🙂
Like I said everyone needs their own eureka moment.
Eviscerator is way easier to use for sure.
I strive for having solid anti-horde option when fuel running low.
Good morning psyker stans
Boy choose evi, Man choose t hammer.
I concur - it's other way around
And.. there is an Axe. Soloing the Monstrosicty by chopping it piece by piece... mmmmmm 🙂 Are you in a hurry with your 1-2 bonks? Young people....
Feel every swing, work for it.
1-2 Bonk is like 5 sec wank.
And half of mosntrosicty hp.
Or one dead DH
You say this but this is basically the Thunder Hammer creed lmao
But that's not the point there are 15 more minutes of fighting different things other than Monstrocity. And you not enjoy every moment of doing so - what's the point ? ^)
The coded for it. At least they are not doing for lulz.
big green heresy
it has to be some kind of sick joke
two only force sword in this rotation, and both of them had precognition
god damnation is a wasteland these days
finding a full lobby might as well be a christmas miracle
I had one Hammer moment - when i caught mutant charging at me with charged blow. It connected right and felt gooooooood 🙂
Ogryn type enemies, elites and some specialists are targets for the bonk as well. Like, you oneshot most of them. Even crushers if you have good rolls on hammer and use F.
So it's not about bosses only.
Yeah it's the best weapon for that Penance
Also when your entire team is watching
"Did you just intercept a charging mutie?"
"Fuck yes I did."
For armored ogryns i use Insta roast. Give them few stacks of Burning then press F and they insta- dead:)
It did not awarded me penance though. Maybe beacuse i was just standing and not using F...
Yep
With F game usually calculates it wrong and make Mutie grabbing you instead of registering the strike. Though according to tech forum - after latests fixes game have issue with hit registration
And some warp-karkery happening with weapon switching
the weapon switching on psyker is SOOOO BAD right now
especially between fs and staffs
i have a question, what's the best way to get the cliffhanger penance?
get a force sword, any extract with a narrow bridge you can push the horde off
the force sword push is comparable to your ability and spammable, so you can use both to push more stuff off easier
the raid mission in chasm logistratum (stealing ammo) works well for it
should i also tell my team to not help me or something?
its easier if they dont shoot the stuff your trying to push but by no means impossible
asking them to let you try pushing the horde off would probably help though
Anyone else get stuck charging their staff
not seen that bug before, have had it refuse to fire while charged though
i got cliffhanger on the mission finale where you hack the skulls and then two bridges without rails extend to a central spot where you hack one last thing before escaping. hordes come across the bridge and ccn be pushed with force sword and f in decent numbers
i didn't tell team to back off because i don't want to expose others to horrific psyker penances haha
vigil station yea i did mine there too
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/input-delay-enemies-skating-teleporting-dropped-inputs-connection-fine/66701
Details about recent bugs with delays and hit registration. Player documented it well with videos
Since roughly Sunday, darktide has gone from feeling like an offline game - where all inputs work promptly, enemies move smoothly, everything makes sense - to feeling like a soggy, jittery mess. To be clear, this is NOT an fps complaint - this is lag/latency. I’m on a 13900k w/ a 2070s and broadly performance is totally fine (averaging 80-120). ...
but i did that one without finding a premade or organizing.. still have monstrosity and out with a bang to do 😓
I noticed that this weekend. Lots of bolts and fireballs (whatever) that just don't trigger, tons of hits not being registered, lots of jerky enemy movements. I shot probably a dozen bolts at one of those small infestation tentacle eye things and hit it once.
Without taking into account the particular issues with gun psyker, I would say no. mk2 is the worst recon version and they're only really worth using with infernus, and you need a good blessing setup and the torrent version for it to be competitive (but still not quite as good) as other options. Speedload is a wasted blessing on the recons as well, they reload quite fast.
It's very hard to get a good recon and you want something that looks like this, perk/blessing wise as well as on the mk6. I had to settle for a questionable damage roll on this one for my vet and the lowest tier of infernus.
so the headpopper build with lasguns are not good?
Compared to other options, it's not close at all in power.
aight
I just tried it last night, it felt pretty anemic.
yeh same here
Mostly just made me want to level a veteran
You and your team would be substantially better off with you playing vet if you want to use guns. Psyker has literally zero benefit to using them.
but i just thought, hey maybe im doing it wrong
Na, class just isn't built for it. Vet is astoundingly good for using all guns and has options psyker doesn't, like bolter.
yeh
Best 350 I've seen
Guns still good for leveling a psyker, but should not be your high content gear
Wow
i felt it worked better with purgatus and surge anyway with headpopper 10%
Better than a trauma staff until you get a surge, certainly
whats the thresh hold on burn for the purgatus? is it 76 like the flamer?
just bb far away
Flayer is more for helping to maintain warp charges
It's a flat 15 seconds cd, and not reduced by hits or anything.
If it lowered its cooldown on hit (by maybe 1 second?) them you could see a viable (as in not gimping your team by playing it instead of vet) gun psyker build with infernus torrent.
yeh it always feels wasted on hordes anyway
Is the purple an upgrade?
What melee weapons do you folks run? I've been just using whatever, but I just got to 30 last night and haven't found one that seems to really stand out. I got a pretty good force sword from emp gift, but it feels like kind of a wonky weapon.
Dueling swords or antaxV axes with brutal momentum are the most popular
Fast runs knife, otherwise MK5 axe and occasional FS
Force swords are primarily run for deflector
Which this one doesn't have.
im partial to a chainsword with extra cleave blessing, good for passive peril quell
I got a dueling sword that's really good, except it rolled with a 20% damage stat.
it rounds out the horde weaknesses of the surge
So it's a piece of pretty trash
Way better warp res and close enough burn/cloud radius would make it an upgrade if you can get warp nexus and replace sprint efficiency with crit. Damage is apparently your dump stat on purge staffs due to it not affecting the dot. Crit is very important for purge because it makes you apply an additional soulblaze stack.
I also quite like having infinite dodges, and the Force Sword helps with that
chainsword stamina really works with the block peril feat to make it very safe defensively
It's a nice defensive weapon
Plus, if you know how to use the Force Sword well, it looks cool as fuck
what ds and combo do people like? i couldn't find a rhythm with it but the dodges and reach were lovely
It does make it pretty easy to dance around cutting fools up like I'm playing a glaive Kerillian or something
Mk IV spam lights unless it's a mauler, then you use heavies if you gotta melee it.
Which perks are desired for fire staff? (Crit and flak dmg? )
+flak +crit chance






