#psyker-class
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fart shart strikes again..
it's not great, but it has deflector
Run all Ogryn's ez.
never again
I ogryn when im tired of space wizard
I should finish him
hes 29
why loading screen when switching characters
come on fart shart
I guess the hub is different... not 4 players
is fart shart the catholic church is big E is jesus
sprint
Unfortunately yeah.
You dont need Stamina if at all with peril blocking.
At least it'll do pretty good vs hordes
Light > heavy, give it a moment to reset, do it over and over.
It's supposed to but atm apparently it makes it worse.
No need to wait, just push and repeat. safer anyways, stagger stuff
What, is that true? :I
I thought about rerolling sprint into block effeciency
there are conflicting reports
ATM yeah. Not very clear.
the one reddit post claiming that block efficiency doesn't work shows no data nor methodology
json did some testing and it appeared to have an effect
maybe inner tranquility makes it worse or something like it was making quelling slower and they just had charges with it
Reddit gets mad when they join Power Grid Failure missions and cant see, no helping that bunch I'm afraid.
while true, more people read reddit than are on this discord server
and the official forums
man the aesthetic on power grid failures is really damn cool
combined with extra daemon spawns, creepy
We are doomed
is it worth consecrating green surge staff i got at lvl 8 or save mats for later weapon?
always save mats until you hit 340+
I want to smash someone's head in
340? you mean the "rating" thingy in bot right corner?
Had a vet that delayed 1 mission by 27 minutes
the base stat rating, so the one near the stat bars
kk ty
how?
doing the funny jump off ledge because haha funny
then going afk while we were waiting on elev
that's when you vote to kick
conspiracy...
actually infuriating
I bet
Also it's astounding that people don't realize that when they're doing plasteel runs, they don't need to kill every enemy
Fatshark really did something by somehow creating the most annoying class to team with in existence (vet)
Imagine turning a 10 minute mission into 37 minutes
God

alright, time to reroll my weeklies
yep
only cost 5k this week, ezpz
Dang nice
"do missions, dont be bad, kill shit" 
wow gee deflector and bloodthirsty grind SURE IS FUN!!!!!!!!!
some 40-80 force swords are missing due to having shit rolls
also what's even better is having to scroll mindlessly to find the weapon I want instead of having a grid view
It took me 22 until I finally got one with deflector
my first blue was deflector.... its been 80+ hours and i havent found another
until i got 3 deflectors
being broke is such a great gameplay loop too
I LOVE GRINDING PLASTEEL

god
I can't reccomend this game
I like it but
What the fuck is the grind
Genuinely
the ffew oranges I have, I haven't deleted because they have blessings I want to rip off later
they should let you spend weekly currency to purchase mat bundles
You should 3D print all those swords and then eat them.
Mobility is the one stat you really want on a dueling so probably not
I got a quick question on one of the penaces, specifically the one about pushing dudes over a ledge. That have to be with the ability and which lvs are best for that?
reckon its worth it?
What is this screen
It's the screenshot and paste in Photoshop screen
Oh
I think so, stats pretty balanced and a bis blessing. Reroll the 10% perk to crit chance.
I'm trying to get 3 blessings of each type of a similar tier for the votive offering system later on
Give me my two handed force sword
Votice?
Do it fish
Is that what itโs called?
what that pic doesn't list is probably like 50 more void staves and force swords
yes thats what theyre gonna be called if I remember correctly
motive or votive
p sure votive
You vote? Wow how votive of you.
chasm logistratum, get a force sword to pair with it
But seriously how is this a good system
???????
Why do I need 3 of each blessing
Chasm logistratum fans are powerful
Right, thx for the advice
u can do it right at the start, when u go past the arch theres a mini bridge on the left where scrips sometimes spawn
a horde on malice+ also spawns once u go ahead a bit
Yeah that looks real solid. Technically the perk reroll becomes free eventually so if you wanted can keep trying for 5%
At the cost of only your sanity
is there a limit to penance reroll?
hmm... its already free so why not
It's not. I remember Aqshy telling us that the devs wanted good weapons to feel like a treat, but having gotten good weapons, the biggest treat about having them is not having to interact with the loot system anymore.
Hmmm
if you want good weapons to feel like a treat you make them require a lot of work to obtain but make all that work reliable, eg you need this much material from your missions then you hand it in all at once to get your reward
oof hipfire
It's better than not having a decent staff
its a bit redundant, but the stats are good and it has the important blessing
could be a lot worse
Honestly seeking the absolute perfect weapon is pretty much a fool's errand right now. Once they finish the crafting system that will hopefully improve at least a bit
if you need a good staff still its probably worth it, but i think skip if you already have one you like
Yah its better than terrifying barrage. I've never seen it trigger gave up
I'm guessing the optimal second blessing would be charge time on repeated casts
Yeah I read that here too
So, blowing up 3 elites penance... Is that literally a suicide bomb attack? How do you do that sensibly you bunch of heretical mutants?
Yes, and you dont. It's the ultimate sandbag penance tbh
Idk if it makes much of a difference? Meet grinder seems like it did nothing
soften up a shotgun/rager/gunner pack with surge or purge, blow yourself up
Right gotcha
On it!
best purge blessing is Warp Nexus hands down
second is preference, but I'll recommend focused channeling
best perk is crit chance
is force sword a viable weapon endgame? i see everyone running with dueling swords...
absolutely
yes
Apparently you have to keep right click held down at all times for it to take effect
Yah I tired that. I counted manually. But honestly? If I cant tell a difference hip fire might be better. Maybe there break points or something more.
warp flurry is probably pretty good, and certainly looks that way on paper, but making sure a single poxwalker can't interrupt your secondary charge is more valuable in my experience
being able to sprint at shooters and keep them from firing for a few seconds with your left click is actually pretty great, I find
love my run and gun
that's fair, just remember you can slide and shoot too *without it
run n gun isnt horrible, there's usually just better alternatives
I feel people underuse staff lmb
ngl
outside of purg
This is how I feel about both Purgatus and Surge tbh
yeah, I often find I need more distance than a slide will take me though
no-one else is apparently gonna deal with the scab shooters
yea with surge it's probably less critical since you want to spam rmb more often, but with purge getting that full charge is important to maximize its utility
what should i look up for in curio's blessings and perks?
toughness, health, and corruption resistance imo. can't really go wrong with those.
fourth up to your preference
fourth? aren't there three?
no, at yellow there's one main stat and three perk stats
if you want health, aim for 20-21%, toughness should be 16-17% *for a curio's main stat
but otherwise work with what you've got
ty
corruption resist is kinda shit isnt it
Yes.
since grims leech a certain amount not %
The best corruption resist is more HP
so you'd want gunner resist probs
Hp stacking Ogryns don't even lose a wound with 2 Grims lmao
lmao
Vets suffer the most because they stack Toughness
Does gunner resist only works for elite gunner or the normal mobs as well?
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Then I like sniper just for that random hit
do sniper shots always remove all toughness?
It's not a bad idea. I once got cockpit with Deflect
seems like they do
Snipers and shotgunners
The two burst damage specialists
ye shotgunners i just dodge mostly
but two of em means trouble so that might be worth slapping on for zeal
maybe ill finally get a deflector fs in this next reset
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i cant tell where anyone is from
So
no force swords again wooo
Knife psyker builds amirite
Knife/Lasgun new secret meta
corruption resist (grimoires) is different than general corruption resist
We're hanging up our Psyker Staffs and becoming Catachan Guardsmen
But that one time melk has a really good item your gonna be sorry
whats he have to do with grims
reroll it away
though id rather do 12 grims than 25 scrips
always reroll scrips, grims, and secondary objective weeklies
im stuck with that 6 secondary objective one
By the time Melk has a really good item they'll have finished the crafting system and added Armoury rerolls ๐
haven't done one in a while, but last I remember you need to get them all for it to count towards weeklies, same with grims. might be the same with any penances
and many people, including me, never both with those
so it's more challenging and time-consuming than it otherwise should be
I mean if I trip over a scrip I'll pick it up (providing I don't have health/ammo already). 
on ogryn I got all good penance and did t hem in a day, psyker im week 2
without getting a full complete
ohh you mean contracts, not penances
goddamn reroll bug
contract***
rip blessings
I did not for me me last week.
I think YOU need to pick it up.
I have acquired the sword of gigablocking
XD this two on 1 sword and your golden
Herd crit is broken on surge? Idk don't run it
It has a crit multiplier of 0 against flak armor apparently
barrage is a must it save me so often
According to someone who was looking at the game data
Whereas normal crits have a base of 1
how about for purge
no
Crits for purge apply an additional stack soulblaze
staffs are like 15-25%
I have finally acquired my first 380 staff!
Distribution could be a bit better. Blessing is unfortunately tier 1. But perk is good!
My game was so impressed it crashed when I inspected the weapon.
its true about 0 crit
always warp nexus
on purge. always

pick whatever you want on the second, but you should really aim for warp nexus
could anyone tell me what's the best melee for Psyker currently? im using the chainsword but im still not sure.
antax brutal momentum, deflector force sword
there's a handful of solid options, depending on build/ranged weapon choice
i usually run with the Purgatus staff
these are two reliably good ones
deflector FS is a great choice with it, but can't go wrong with ant axe V. some people prefer more mobility with either combat blade or dueling sword
thats a blessing yea?
i think its cause of the pushblock on antax that makes it good
the hitbox is distended
big cleave
Yes it's a blessing
combine with kinetic deflection feat, spam pushblock attack
dammit, peddler has one with decimator on
Makes it so the slow ass axe doesn't stop on one target all the time
i'll wait for now then
pugging with randoms on heresy game pass server, saw an opportunity and I took it
What feats are yall using w/ surge on heresy+?
bless
i havent created any other class aside from my psyker, so i have couple of questions: is inventory character-specific or do all your characters share inventory? If so, does the shop has different inventory for each of your characters?
character specific, shops are separate
kk ty
also sire melks challanges change
i have no idea what that means: im just lvl 9 atm XD
Love the mk5 duel sword
for example kill 5 monstrocities
kill 750 dregs with melee or ranged
etc etc
and you get some funny shekels from him for completing those, which you can spend in his shop for some pretty nice weapons.
Melkies
more like you get to spin the casino wheel once a day
to get more or less same shit from the store
melk has been quite generous with me so i dont see the problem 
a casino spin with a higher ceiling is about right
I know this is old. But on purga staff?
any fellow psykers get the Malleus Monstronum challenge lol
What is that
i technically did it but on the wrong difficulty lmao
kill a monstrosity with only brain burst at the second to highest difficulty solo
you have to deal 90% dam to it with brain burst then kill it with brain burst
.>
Every psyker melee feels like garbo cept mk5
i got a very good plan on how to do that penance, but im literally gonna have to be in here and beg ppl to come with me for help
Fs alt is top tier
What is fs
force sword
Im not the highest rank but if you want a hand, ill help.
Which one
you got an ogryn with a shield?
dammit
whend o you unlock shield?
did you get the monstrum penance yet or?
i am
90% brain damage
How to force sword, spam alt?
all you need pretty much to do this is a ogryn with a shield, a deamonhost and two competent teammates
we know : )
ogryn agros the Deamonhost, puts down his shield, psyker does the head poppin and the other two protect the psyker
boom
i mean if we are doing only one orgyn im downt o help if i can get help as well
my ogryn is maxed out so im willing to help out in this too if you need to get that penance done
The alt can one shot a lot of elites and specials. The push attack has super strong CC on it so you can knock down hella hoards. the attack pattern is meh tho. Itโs more utility rather than damage
doesnt even need to be a shield ogryn... another psyker can tank the DH
is it with the feat where when you block you get peril instead?
Shieldgryn
yes
aah.
Yeah that feet
Don't you blow yourself up tho?
touche, but orgyn is just better
And a Dueling sword or axe will tank shit
How much peril does it take?
yea and the boom will do damage
Stops when you hit 80% peril so you physically canโt
more than one psyker on heresy usually never went well for me so
you dont blow yourself up with peril block because it stops at critical peril
duno
4 psykers can work
You just gotta have 1 Flame 1 Gunpsyker 1 lightning then over one on anti armour

for me its always been the case that there isnt enough DPS
I've had more success with more psykers
ive cleared damnation with 2 vet 2 psyker
Void strike and flame have hella DPS
Because in general psykers are better players that vets
hm
The vets are an extremely wide range of skill levels
The key there is 2 vets. Most busted class no question
There are some baaaad vets
Itโs just kinda dumb
oh well, im not the best psyker im fully aware of that.
Vets S
Psyker A
Zealot A
Ogryn B
so that also might be a issue

a quite literal skill issue on my side 
Disrespecting the ogryn!!
Heโs my second main
oh it took a while
You still take corruption damage
nevermind
do you just have that gif on command
there is no doubting the psyker can but the ogryn is just easier with a shield
less complicated and less skill needed
and so does the ogryn?
Thatโs 90% of peoples reason not to play Psyker tbh. Psyker can do all this crazy shit but it requires skill
the gift of gifs
Pogryn
yeah psyker has about the same potential as other classes but it feels like it takes way more effort
Im not a god tier player by any means but most psykers i see are dead from the 1st horde so yea....
Wow. I haven't used the surge staff in so long I forgot how utterly garbage the damage is.
mostly CC
I understand the power of the staff comes from the CC. Just... feels bad.
yea.... agreed
Voidstrike and purgatus staff supremacy
Did not know that part....
Im about surviving and making sure my BB works, so surge CC all the way
yeah its everything around the DH that takes corruption
Blaze and sfkingalpha you down for the challege?
More the fact that the class is outshined by other classes in every facet except maybe surge staff cc
And the two things the class revolves around (BB, warp charges) are just incredibly unfun to deal with.
bb is great
i just stick around lower difficulties blasting stuff with my voidstrike content to hear the thundering boom
Clearing a line with void staff?
It's fine, but flamer does horde clears exceptionally well
And is attached to a better class
imo there is a lot or "resource management" to deal with, the more complexity you add the more you have to manage. It can be fun but feels more like constant obstacles that other classes easliy overcome
i think the highest i went difficulty wise was like what third or fourth difficulty ?
BB is cool af lol idk why it doesnโt scale tho
who is my psyker calling beloved?
I cant tell you how many times im about to BB an enemy that just gets dropped and i got high peril for nothing
Y'all think this roll is worth upgrading?
Outside the voidstrike staff you don't have to aim as a Psyker which removes a good amount of mechanical skill.
I fail to see why anyone would be impressed by it mechanically, or think it's "cool"
either the emperor or a daemon
Guns and Trauma staff ;(
High peril gen, long channel time, becomes increasingly doodoo as you get into higher difficulties
nah its still great at higher diffs
Has it's uses but it's far from a fun ability
definitely very fun to me
Honk honk
What are these guns you speak of? Trauma involves placing a giant circle on the ground. I would argue a 2.2-2.5m inner circle 2/3 times before quelling is easier to place than constantly hitting head shots. BB literally requires no aim.
yea and the peril scaling doesnt get better as you get more levels. It feels like the same grind the whole way through
Warp res, is negligible, but necessary
Auto Pistol, Cantral Lasgun and revolver are all beasts when used properly
Sounds like your just pooping over peoples fun?
Void Staff exists solely to destroy my fps when Psyker disintegrates a horde before my very eyes.
He's allowed to have fun with it, and I'm allowed to say he has a very low bar for fun
Or what qualifies as "good"
I mean if youre a psyker best run staff, imo, save ammo for other classes
i've had someone crash after i deleted a horde from existence
voidstrike hits hard when you let it
Gun Psyker is really underrated tbh about as viable as void strike or flame
Psyker with revolver surpases any and all stave weilder
does it make an artillery level explosion sound though ?
At elite and special killing it definitely does
Takes a massive channel time to hit one target, when other classes can instantly kill specials from range or stunlock hordes and specials together
Agreed, guns are honestly better if you are doing a BB build, and safer
Takes multiple casts to kill different specials
Not really trying to start a flame here. But fun is different for different people. If by powerfull you mean easy? Then psyker is low tier.
Just play vet
Boring class
yep
kinetic barrage is what you use when you need to get off multiple bbs in quick succession
anyone else not getting credit for the new weekly contracts on their psyker?
You're gimping your team by playing gun psyker, literally just play vet and be 400% more useful.
Not at all
Yeah, use a staff og
Love my secondary Zealot, praise the emperor and charge into battle
My psyker kills most things faster than my knife zelot
probably cause youre using knife imo
depends on team comp somtimes you have a bolter vet and flamer zealots but gun psyker can deal with ranged mobs
Knife zealot is not exactly a multi target damage powerhouse
lol
So I don't know why you're using that as an example
Canโt wait for next psyker class to enhance their bullets with warp energy to cosplay as a destiny hunter
Yes omg
gun psyker, bullet thief
True lol
Knife takes about 5 or 6 heavy swings to kill. Psyker starts bb then charged fs for the finish
Can deal with ranged mobs in a far inferior manner to vet, just play vet and stop stealing bullets from other classes.
You're running knife zealot without lacerate?
knife is single target and zealot is a cleave class
definitely not the soldier 69 guy
No.
I have, it's ass
til I was level 6
and got a staff
sounds like a skill issue to me
its what i started out as, but i can shoot lighting now and say Do it like Palpatine
I feel like psych is just an elite assassin + crowd control. They donโt necessarily excel with singularity. They can pick off distant targets and do mass damage with their head pops on elites and hounds
Not to mention to get around those shield users
The real skill issue is gimping your team on purpose and then making them carry you
gun psyker is a waste
saber is viable, knife, not so much
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vet does gun better staff does psyker better
I use staff
Go back to the vet forum?
How about you go, you clearly want to be a vet from playing gun psyk
staff is ranged, you still have a sword
I hate to say it but Vet does nearly every role better. 4 man vet was the easiest dammnation I have ever done
If fatshark didnโt want psyker using guns they would only let them use staves akin to Sienna in Vermintide
A sword that uses peril
Wrong reply?
Turning point imperium
nioce samezy
I mean for me Iโm a fan of the CS
What?
Fun af to use
vet goated no cap but if you need a carry goon psyker goes hard for the crowd control
Never said I used gun psyker.
I love the peril mechanic, I just wished the lightning surge staff targeted more people and did a bit more damage
Obviously itโs boring af tho
Gun psyker is viable and safe for a BB build but if you grab ammo all the time then just play vet
Then why are you defending it
why do you have to grab ammo all the time though
lasguns are incredibly ammo efficient
They really are
Can someone explain the special ability on the force sword
It sorta just does a two-hit shove/stun
Its like a brain burst of damage plus a heavy attack
Same as chain sword. Gives you hella damage. at the cost of peril

I dont think Iโm using it correctly
I forget that some people don't play any difficulty above malice
It sorta just does nothing. What am I doing wrong
do you mean the shove?
Yea
who are you referring to
Is that just a class-specific shove
buff it then strike, its pretty simple but it can add a lot of peril with a BB and staff use
you want to left click after right click to do the push
Considering I play regularly in damnation with high intensity idk about that one
Heavy attack weak spot but it only stays active for a few seconds
You being a dedicated contrarian and insisting bad things are good.
yea my bad sorry i only play malice

So I buff the shove with peril?
Cool flex again bro
Impressive, you got carried in all those maps
We flexing
Why are you here friend? To shit on out fun? Tell us all to stop playing our favorite class? You probably have the most skilled players here in this sub forum
Tbh at this point this isnโt a debate about meta or anything. Your just being really dislikeable. Please stop
Literally what?
the shove has two parts
not that im aware of, you just buff and strike and it does heavy melee damage. good to finish off targets and do some good single target damage to specials
especially if you have 1st strike damage on the sword
Seems a simple question whats the point of your posts?
I wish Psykers could use a shovel
Hell a force shovel pls
That animation is so cool tho
I want this
the best shovel knight
It's entirely a debate about meta and the class, the fact you think I'm unlikeable disagreeing with you is telling.
Same as yours, presumably.
I dont get whats happening, i didnt think you were that in opposition to be hated
I'm being dislikeable? Disagreeable? Changing the tone? Sorry what?
Preach
Some people are allergic to being they might be incorrect
There's a lot of contrarians who hang out in the channel
well he thinks bb and other stuff is bad but when people have a differing opinion instead of hearing them out he justs resorts to personal insults and dismisses them so he isnt really looking for a discussion
I was talking to Soldier before and never once did they say BB is bad
Literally as an ogryn main i would rather psyker an vet kept specialists an elites off my back more effectively, played right an ogryn can cc a massive area, but we cant quickly kill anything like that. Gun psyker basically makes you an elite killed on demand and better yet, an another thing ogryns will apreciate, you're not fucked if left alone
Also, turns out the surge staff is meant to do over a little half over half health so you can one shot your enemies and not have to shoot two body shots for squishies
So I guess the surge weakens them
Love the lightning
BB isnโt bad id argue itโs balanced. What people donโt consider is the fact that BB is the equivalent of psykers grenade. As it has infinite ammo it should naturally be on the weaker end
cannot confirm, but the CC is good for team and space for yourself. Also you can get 3-4 full charges before 100%peril, ntb imo
Itโs also crazy boss damage!
The fact psychs have the head pop ability makes me think theyโre an elite smasher type class with feasible cc
yes its very useful and has insanely high uptime i think people just want to main it and expect it to nuke everything (although boss damage is pathetic)
it is in fact our grenade that is rechargeable, back to the convo about peril and its mechanic being "fun" which it can be but can also not be
an ogryn ejaculating is stronger than a fully charged voidstrike tbh
Charge time needs work but its a long stun half way through the charge. Very useful. The team gets an opening at the head of bulwark
That more about orgryn than the void
I did hear you out. You're welcome to have a differing opinion, but I see no reason for BB to be either fun, or good in comparison to other classes.
I would propose not a charge time buff. But the damage and CC scaling on how long you charge it.
if you don't play above malice, you do not have a valid perspective of what's actually good or not with the psyker
Oh, one thing I learned, you can call out a hound, and stun it with the surge staff so your team can focus on it, the lightning does an amazing job stunning grapplers like the mutants too
Right? There are two types of enemy in this game, specials an chaff, like anything should be able to survive, or even, like in orgyns case, roll it like its nothing, but psyker is very much geared to the special side of things
charge time sucks ass, at lvl 30 you can reduce it i think with a skill, but most allies kill shit before i can even get a full charge bb off
Bb with the cooldown buff is fuckin useful too
Like a staff the shorter you relece it the less it does? Id live to see rmb not constantly generate peril
Exactly
It simply falls off massively in higher difficulties, and is in my opinion a very lame skill that is just "charge for a long time to do damage to one target". Meanwhile vet can blow out multiple specials with bolter magdump in a way shorter time.
Range tho
You missing the mid charge stun.
when you go higher up in difficulties theres so many elites that you have plenty of targets in my experiencce
Ima be honest I only play psychs to stun with surge staff and one shot most elites
BB has the best range
I think it would add another layer of skill and depth to Psyker. Also up the viability of BB a decent amount.
its more fpr giving you space as a long range attacker and letting otehr classes take advantage of the CC
You stun one target a little bit with a massive peril generation and a long cast time. Not impressive.
So what does the zealot specialize in? They use a lot of melee it seems
arent you already honest? ๐ค
Honestly, yeah
I play Psyker because funni German voice.
To you, thats valid. Play something else. Psyker is a niche class. Lots of bad psykers out there.
If you want to stun use the surge staff, if you want to murder ranged and specials then play vet.
Oh right, psych does have the German lady
inner tranquillity for peril resist and kinetic barrage for more peril resist and faster charge and psykinetic's aura for even more ult uptime if you want
Head poppin for days
the staff stuns 4-5 targets and you dont even need a full charge, half charge is fine and that gets you 20-30 peril at most

I agree surge staff fun
You have a lock on with bb you can kill them after they go behind spawn doors
To you, that's a valid argument. However, I want to play a psyker class that isn't disappointing because I like wizards. Therefore I won't be going anywhere.
that's still 1.5 seconds you're building up peril, not doing something else, that if your target dies you get no credit for
People appreciate you using the surge staff
I can and WILL shock that motherfucker with my funny stick.
the entire flow of the class is backwards imo for an action game. warp charges should be a regenerating resource that you use to do a short or instant cast bb. still gives a buff and you choose to lower it to bb or have talents change it in various ways
I have a lot more fun and win more rounds the less I care about that
Its mixed, its solid yet equally disappointing i agree
whichever, I'm not telling anyone not to have fun
Idea, the more Peril you have, either more damage or more health/toughness.
but I will argue to the ends of the earth against people playing gun psykers and calling it "good"
im sure there will be more "exciting and wizardy" subclasses
they can be depending on the team comp
no, gun psyker literally can't be better than simply playing a veteran
why i have ult for for cc and armourpen with bb
Fair, just giving my personal experience. Bb is usefull for far enemies about to be a problem a good vet does best killing the things that are a threat now.
Bb is very effective at hiting an approaching orgryn enemy in my experience
I tried Vet, got handed a lasgun.
ult isn't repeatable/reliable CC though
still utility over vet with same gun
BB has its place
that place is not as a primary attack vector, though
I don't see why people list somethings attributes but don't support it with an argument. Are you trying to say that makes up for the long cast time, massive peril gen, singular targeting, and general lack of damage in higher difficulties against harder targets?
Veteran is incredibly boring and being a hipster is cool
And nothing can be more viable than vet because itโs kinda busted
TTK is the most important metric for damage-focused abilities/attacks
that's Time To Kill
Peril regen is about the same speed as reloading.
It does not need to one shot to be useful. But fs alt is probably better in most cases but bb is still ok
a veteran will literally mow down a crowd of specials while you wait to charge up and BB one
I mean, I use my staff, control a decent amount of dudes, then regain toughness from the Peril.
Might not be the most effective, but it works enough for me.
and while you're having to quell to be able to do a third consecutive BB, the veteran is still holding down their trigger and mowing more down
Doesn't use a resource, can one shot gunners,shotgunners, some specials whilst out of sight, lots of awareness whilst committed to a burst, you still have a staff and a melee weapon
Anyone know if servers are down?
I can kill much faster and more targets, and reload much faster, playing my vet than I ever will with bb, even with feats.
depends, sometimes theres a horde sometimes they dont have los
Then play vet?
I have been
Try a staff. Bb is specifically a single target
cool
I'm eagerly awaiting a new career that is decently well designed for psyker
Psyker is not just brain burst, it has its place. Thats the point
surge staff all the way
but its an infinite resource, why waist bullets on a gunner or sniper when your psyker can kill it ranged for free
psyker absolutely has its place
your ability to kill that sniper faster than a vet is highly situational
and in those situations, you're good, BB away
middle of a horde vets cant just pull out their gun target the trapper/bomber/gunner behind the horde and kill them in 2s
Because psyker kills far more slowly and less reliably than a vet.
but it needs some Tlc compared to others, a little less peril buildup, a bit better damage scale on hgiher difficulty and slightly quicker BB charge
positioning is def key
BB big boys, staff the crowd like, 5 times on a half charge so the others can smack them, then die because you can't regen your toughness fast enough.
Infinite resource is nice and all, don't get me wrong. But it's limitations far, far outweigh the benefit of it.
1:1 class comparison is a waste of effort in team based PvE game imo
but true
i precharge my bbs before most specials get into the map, taking it out faster than vet most of the times
oh, you enjoy building up excess peril
but then you are riddled with peril at the start of a fight
as if BB building 45% minimum isn't enough
I also enjoy building up excess peril unnecessarily
it's resource management
BB pre-charge needs changing
i role play my anxiety into my psyker
I'd like to see pre-charging BB stop building peril once the charge meter is full
45 is fine you can just quell like 3% below 100% and you can cast again
do i want that thing gone out faster once its in my sight? if yes -> precharge
... Tbh, just pop KB and pop the dog to make sure it dies faster
I'd also like to see BB's charge time cut down to 1.5 seconds total
Im sure the ladys love a good precharge lmao but i get your point
and the peril gain dropped to 30%
I like the fact the Psyker knows the Emperor was against religion.
nah itd be too strong
KB ought to be changed to warp charges increasing BB charge time and decreasing peril cost
True. It just needs a full rework.
So you take a lot of time and effort to do that, but as a vet I can just press f and blow up multiple specials within the time it takes for one bb charge.
as Soldier 69 said - none of the psyker's mechanics really syngergize
it's a lot of clunk smashed together
it doesnt even take effort
not true,, they all gain a lot of peril
or any resource, or any combat ability
that's not synergy, that's just penalty
You're standing around charging bb constantly on the lookout for specials, and presumably not using your staff to be useful while you do it.
no
because none of our high-peril feats are worth the effort
i charge one whenever i know one is about to jump in
Every vet I see that says this melts specials but ignores ranged trash that lays into the zealots.
it doesnt take much time to charge guys lmao
Maybe it's the build
then out pops a nergal monstrosity Rip you
The only edge Psyker has right now is surge staff
i dont wait around fully charged in the middle for the enemies to come lol
if a special is about to jump in, I wait for it to spawn, hit it with lightning and hack it to death in one swing with my axe
and spend very little peril to do it
I make sure to get ranged shooters first, don't worry.
thats only if you have one specific staff
okay, so hit it with a charged void shot to stagger and then hack it with the axe
you guys seem to forget that precharge isnt the only way to play it
Provided my dudes aren't in imminent danger of dying to a bunch of ragers are something.
there are times you need it
True
if people plays roles right, the BB has a place. but most people just shoot to kill shit to get it dead, so especially for solo play, psyker is not as good
and times that dont
Laughs in pergatus
no, you're so focused on trying to use BB constantly that you don't see the forest for the trees
?? no
you are assuming things
you shouldnt be trying to use bb constantly anyway
no, I'm going off of what you've said
I'm also going off what you said
BB should be treated like a grenade - you use it when the situation is right
I think we're going off of what you said
just because i said i precharged doesnt mean i do it all the time guys, are you out of your minds?
state of this chat tbh
I never precharge BB
no, out of my mind
yea and it works exceptionally well when you use it well
You seemed to be supporting that notion from your description
I've precharged BB maybe... Once in the last 30 hours?
because I never use it unless there's a special that is getting away from the team and nobody else can get it
It's exceptionally good at killing one normal enemy every 4 seconds
We're literally T5 lol
sounds like you're out of intelligent things to say
I concur
buff BB and give it charges, im for that, but if it uses "ammo" or grenade pickups youre back to vet just being better still
for you maybe sure
good day, sir.
no u
i'd really really love to watch you guys play one day tbh
Plus getting eyes on a special and left clicking before it runs off is a bit better than precharging
Just saying
I treat the surge staff like a scalpel
I consider myself to have the biggest wiener
there are, times for both
well i consider myself the most excellentest psyker player
funny as you seem to be the only one here to doubt that
time for this hourโs dick measuring contest it seems
no i doubt it too
My staff is quite impressive
checkmate
you have to have a neckbeard and live in your mother's basement to participate, though
It's long
Ill go 1st 3" good right?
And hard
lmao
My staff is wider than it is long
3" is massive bro
True, but it really comes down to which difficulty you play lol. Precharging doesn't really have a great spot in T4-5 due to how little damage and how much peril it costs
i only play t5
You got a monstrosity, ngl
Do you run KB?
yes
I feel very bad for any team you're on in a damnation run
congrats another joined after you but still in the minority of an objectively different opinion
i've added you, we can play later on
Ah gotcha. Yeah I can see where you're coming from, especially if you're running peril resist.
no worries
no worries, I only add friends to my friend's list
This channel is so dramatic lol
ok and the sky is blue
The chat when a hot take is given
Iโm going to sleep
its not, reflections from the water cause it to appear blue
But
You gotta compete in the dick measuring contest first
Show your hand, dandy man
all those guys who talk big can come add me on steam, just message me and we can play together
on vc etc. it's all good
my dick is like hotwheels rn, beat that. wait....
short and out of energy after the first turn?
point stands why are you telling me "you have a different opinion" like it means anything or like i didnt already know that
useless when feeling friction?
I can't help but swing when softballs are tossed
He's got a massive 3" punisher
If he said it's the only way to go, I can understand getting uppity. There really is a time and a place for it lol. I don't personally do it, but then again most people don't even like BB to begin with.
you have a different opinion is not the same as you have an objectively incorrect opinion that is supported by one other person lol
He wasn't doing it to you
anyways, time to start working on the new weeklies
objectively being the key word btw
it's all fine, you guys apparently have created this little circlejerk here
but as i said, message me, add me, let's play
and we will see what's up
oh so now i have an "objectively incorrect opionion" because its "supported by one other person" i see. thats how logic works ok my bad my bad my bad my bad my bad sorry hey i apologise
It's a unique place. You should see our datamining sessions.
I think folks are just kinda addicted to debating silly things
That's a strawman and not what he said
but keep in mind this here is a little small community of players that don't really represent much, and you guys are not the big fish lmao
@cyan notch what is your opinion
Don't argue in bad faith
not even talking to you
crap, I can't start a mission, shop's about to rotate
i dont know what he was referring to tbh
peak gameplay.
Probably "BB is amazing" or "gun psyker is amazing"
you going to accept that friend request and show me how you play big boy?
we were talking about a lot of things involving viable psyker builds, gun psyker, to BB usage etc
fair enough, I donโt really want to scroll up and read any of this past conversation
nope, but I'll gladly watch a video of you in a damnation run
sure i'll send you a dc invite
you can watch me play tomorrow
hey my bad man sorry for having an "objectively incorrect opinion" unlike you guys who have objectively correct opinions sorry i apologise again
Knife supremacy, correct
bro chill, the majority though different is all but youre getting really but hurt we dont agree, hence objectively
I was thinking in my head you were going to say something along the lines of โscared??โ
thats not what objectively means
Isn't it a good thing from a gameplay perspective that we all have different opinions?
i am really trying to play with this guy lmao
lmao what is goin on in here
lmao
merry christmas & happy holidays siblings
I want to see a video of your gameplay
dude's been talking shit about how good who is and how bad i do
It is my opinion that 3 is a massive number, therefore gun psyker should only be allowed 3 bullets.
won't come and play with me
He doesnโt owe you anything lol
easy - I value my time more than yours
3 is pretty large.
you haven't made any compelling case for me to spend my time doing something
What is best way to handle squads of gun enemies as this class?
You're... Still using it in the same context whether you play with him or not lol.
nah, I can fast forward a youtube video
You can't fast forward this conversation
this dude istg
sadly, no
block bu tton might work
i wont be recording and uploading man, you can join and i'll stream it for you
Super large, anything more than that is too much. Only 3 bullets should be allowed.
tomorrow sometime
got it, you don't want a recording of how you play up where other people can criticize it
literally anyone else can ask
3 is a crutch tbh
and i'll invite them as well
Tru.
not worried about this
2 is where its at
3 bullets is literally safe strats. 1 and done.
One shot one kill. Make it count.
Also all the guns for psyker should be changed to autopistol. In addition to having 3 bullets.
I mean, I can run a knife only
you think you're better than me ?!?!?! stream it
no u cant!!! u only play malice!!!!! 
laspistol kinda broken
tbh if you know what you're doing a lot of things are T5 viable
Too broken
tbh tho trauma staff goat staff
surge users eat boogers
Also what class do you play Soldier? you can hmu tp play another time with milky or w/e
it is actually fun to play
except you know, others
Happy Toyotathon
only half joking, i play trauma on damn all the time, i enjoy it a lot
It's seriously the underdog staff
No one knows this
ssshh
This ship has sailed. Shhhhhhhh
I'm flip flopping between vet and psyker currently, trying to farm mats and optimize my gear. I've played a good amount of zealot too. Haven't touched ogryn much but I should level him soon.
Legit asking
yes, fatshark is no more
Huh, weird. Can't log in either.
im in, dont think its down
games fine
Its x mas people aren't allowed to play video games
Some of us are a few bourbons deep and well finished with festivities
not for people in the future

Second Christmas
trauma staff was my christmas
tbh, the best part of Trauma is that they can't nerf it any worse than it is
Only up from here
smart investing
Hope they add cross play or something
It'll definitely help the game pass folks
This
they said they were going to
Like me ๐
Iโm playing game pass and it a whole new world
just Soonโข๏ธ like everything else
I'm sorry for your loss
I joke, but that actually does suck. Hope they fix crossplay soon.
Is this a challenge
Void charge is also fun to use
Depends on if they also nerf surge
I forgot the name
i just bought the game on steam after like 30 hours in gamepass
Is it better on steam
I can only imagine what the T5 lobbies look like on GP
Leagues.
like 10x population
You can run T5 and have at least 3 people even in the odd hours of the night
Imagine t5
on gamepass on the first week or so i would be playing malice with bots all map long
Not sure if that's a rip on the community or T5 as a whole
Yep, same
240 hours and it's Fist time Melk have:
- a Psyker weapon
- It's actually not complete trash
youre going to have to regrind everything though
so if youre in pretty deep might wanna just tough it out
Yooo change carapace to crit chance and that's actually really good
roll carapace dmg to crit and you golden
Not that deep, Iโm 17
Wait


if you enjoy the game its worth buying on steam for sure imo
but yea judging from how slow fatshark is itd be an eternity before crossplay is coming
Thanks for crit advice ๐ Already rolling rolling rolling
running maps all day with bots on malice is terrible
It is
5% ranged crit chance is what u want, purge applies double dot stacks on crit (so warp nexus is A+ too)
๐ welcome
Apart from constant crashing
Does the GP version crash a lot?
Yikes, yeah you should have a better time on Steam then. Personally experienced like 1 full crash since they patched the game a few weeks ago.
And that was because I kept tabbing in and out lol
i've crashed twice in 200 hrs but i think i've been luckier than most




