psyker-class

[bleak tulip]

tthe one with a chainsword in the symbol is for the chainsword* c:

[shut thorn]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/679671608838848546/1054250887851298836/EB556252-49A9-47F9-B9FC-5910F19D3D64-1.gif

[devout belfry]

This stuff bothers me greatly lol

[shut thorn]

you don't know about the 'ogryn skin pack' file that has a vet cosmetic.....

[devout belfry]

Alright, now that we all agree the game is terrible - let's go play Darktide for another 10 hours. Who's in? 😂

[shut thorn]

no thanks im sick

[devout belfry]

I just want more veterans wearing ogryn helmets

[bleak tulip]

thats for the cosmetic vet backpack for the ogryn clearly, so the vet has elevation

[wise pecan]

Don’t forget how there’s like 4 different Infernus blessings that all operate slightly differently depending on which lasgun they’re on

[bleak tulip]

just climb on your big man and shoot

[devout belfry]

Ogryn backpack buddy subclass when?

[iron cypress]

just 10?

[bleak tulip]

no, I dont agree its terrible

stomps foot

[devout belfry]

I was kidding.😑

[bleak tulip]

so was I

😐

[clear heath]

bad game

time to play for another 100 hours

[devout belfry]

[warped oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/helmet-on-baymax-put-on-helmet-wear-the-helmet-shove-gif-24285948

[bleak tulip]

the "stomps foot" was kind of the giveaway

[wise pecan]

Me

[bleak tulip]

game sux

[clear heath]

truly terrible

[bleak tulip]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvQ9HMFza_o

another banger

[warped oyster]

Help me with Pick n Mix tomorrow if you have time?

https://tenor.com/view/haikyuu-tanaka-pray-ryuunosuketanaka-hinata-gif-21272788

[wise pecan]

Yeah that review is very fair

I definitely understand why people played Destiny, now

[bleak tulip]

I like how he went "I played this game a lot, but its not done"

yeah

I played destiny 2 for a good chunk too a few years ago

even though when D1 came out it was getting shit on in reviews

[wise pecan]

Early access garbage

[bleak tulip]

terrible

gib refund

[fresh reef]

👎 Not Recommended

[echo parrot]

Game sucks only 300 hrs and I am already bored

[bleak tulip]

I paid 40 bucks for 200+ hours of mostly entertainment, how dare they try and sell me more

[wise pecan]

But in all seriousness, it’s a very fun game with very serious problems at the moment. I don’t feel any desire to refund it, but I can’t exactly in good conscience recommend it either lol

[clear heath]

I always have to emphasize how much the game feels like a beta when people ask about it

[fresh reef]

trying to look uncanny to terrify the zealots more

how am I doing?

[bleak tulip]

I would recommend it under the caveat of said problems, because I would love to get the game recommended to me if I didnt know about it since I am still having fun with it now

[clear heath]

"it's a good beta" basically sums up how i feel about the game right now

[bleak tulip]

yeah

its not done but whats done is actually good

[wise pecan]

“It’s a very fun early access title”

[bleak tulip]

up to a point (lack of endgame)

[fresh reef]

it's like eating raw cookie dough
it's good. but it could be way better

[warped oyster]

no no no. endgame is there. it's just rng. lol

[bleak tulip]

but hey, you can spend at least 30 hours having fun leveling your first character and shit make steady progress, thats nearly 1 hour for a dollar

[sour olive]

after beta: shops, melee no longer follow V2 and has stun, removed weapon description, karked performance

[bleak tulip]

which is a very good value proposition in of itself

[sour olive]

IT IS A GOOD BETA INDEED

do they learn anything from V2? no

[bleak tulip]

would disagree, the core gameplay loop feels fantastic

they certainly learned that over the course of v2

[sour olive]

and proceed to make every mistake they got during V2

[jovial quail]

Can confirm that you can get over 20 emperors a week. Granted I think 20 is the softcaft per char each week and then it gets significantly smaller chance per one. Pretty sure got 22 last week on Psyker but that was over like 40 games, first 20 was within the first 28 runs.

[warped oyster]

Bought up by Tencent.

[shut thorn]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/693564907471241288/1049342609446944838/Untitled.gif

happy cripmas

im off

enjoy the 30 min gif

[bleak tulip]

(its just one frame)

[vagrant cedar]

it's just a pic

[clear heath]

try watching for 30 minutes just to confirm

[sour olive]

guess its time to return to DRG

gl guys

played 200H danktide and I said its enough

[nimble needle]

These blessings have different levels. You can tell by the lines on the sides. The top one (axe) has 3 lines, the bottom has 2. If they were both at the same level I'd say they'd be the same

[clear heath]

I know they're different levels but the icon doesn't change with level

And explain this one then @nimble needle

different weapon types actually just have different versions of blessings

[nimble needle]

Oh yeah. I wonder if the top version has no cap

[clear heath]

I feel like they just forgot to include it in the text

but idk

[nimble needle]

could go either way with fatshark haha

[violet yoke]

Na u guys are just soft and weak. It's a good game so far. If u can name a game that did better at what they do in the first few months of launch please name it.

[nimble needle]

It fits the niche that I need right now. I can run a mission in about 30-40 minutes. I'm excited for more classes and end-game challenges.

[warped perch]

Damn Cody you’re rich af

[mild tartan]

highest rated surge staff Ive seen, in challenge shop, this isnt actually that great though right? is damage a main priority for this staff

[young zinc]

base stats are decent but the perks and blessings arent great

[karmic quail]

I don't know which to use 😦

[dawn orchid]

Hmmm, warp res or charge speed

[young zinc]

depends on the feats your running

[dawn orchid]

Deflector is an obvious choice if you're doing peril block

Keep in mind psyker doesn't get as much from bleed knifing as zealot

[idle shuttle]

what exactly is the bonus for special conditions.. havent payed attention this whole time

[jovial quail]

movetech from knife is super beneficial, kinetic deflector makes it absurdly tanky too for reviving and it can infinite block heavy attack as well unlike zealot which are the main pros. But yeah knife on zealot is overall better.

[young zinc]

more ordo dockets and XP

[jovial quail]

I still personally say Knife because of its mobility is so absurdly nice. But if you're a more passive psyker then the sword will go really far

[lucid terrace]

I got my first funny yellow weapon and it's a fucking gun.

Christmas is ruined

[idle shuttle]

gun psykers are awsome

to kick out of group

[jovial quail]

[young zinc]

I mean with the Accatran you can maybe do something with the auto braibbrust perk and the flame stack blessiong

[lucid terrace]

So fucking bad

Look at THIS

[primal radish]

whats a warp source? is it just bb or also the staves?

[lucid terrace]

Bartering it now.

[night marten]

Think the combat blade blessing are meh, though you could kill bulwark through shield

[jovial quail]

@lucid terrace If it makes you feel any better, master crafted all the purg staffs, rest were emperor drops. Emperor really really really wants you to use guns

[night marten]

Fs has deflect and a solid perk already

[stuck finch]

Is something fucked with Psyker loot tables? Only getting guns and axe gold drops

[lucid terrace]

Like those guns would be amazing for veteran, but I wanna use staffs and swords and more staffs with psyker.

[jovial quail]

Haha yupppp... I'm half expecting my Vet to start pulling fking staves at this point

[lucid terrace]

Hehe

[night marten]

Staffs and fs are the minority in psyker arsenal, theres more items that arent those things, and its painfully noticeable when you get the other items from the shop and gifts

[lucid terrace]

I'm happy I got my first golden though, but I just wish it was something like a purge or void staff, maybe a force sword.

[magic hull]

u got a purge staff at 500 im guessing it aint that bad

oh wait wrong guy

[warped perch]

Lmao people in general chat are so mad. If people hate the game so much just don’t play

[digital narwhal]

My team kept leaving me behind and called out on dying from bad positioning, even though they ignored me when a horde cut me off from them and I had to fight it off by myself only for a hound to pounce me.

:^)

[dawn orchid]

I'd say so, I get way more recon lasguns on my psyker than I do my vet

[digital narwhal]

I had to Force Sword dance for a long, long while

And died at the end because a hound ignored my push

I got the hit marker on the push too, but hound said no

:^)

I was the only one doing the actual objective, and the moment it was done, they ran off to the next one, leaving me to fight a horde each time

[dawn orchid]

What does the seer council say on this

[digital narwhal]

Warp Res

You don't really charge the Surge staff

so Warp Res to keep spamming lightning for longer

[dawn orchid]

That was my thought on the matter, but I did run into a guy earlier who was swearing by charge rate

[digital narwhal]

Guy doesn't know what he's talking about

spam uncharged lightning and primary fire the stunned enemies

[dawn orchid]

Primary fire

blegh

[blissful leaf]

Did they debuff the surge? Feel like it doesn't do its thing anymore idk

[dawn orchid]

Still stuns

[wise pecan]

They reduced the vfx

[dawn orchid]

Reverted it, to be specific

[wise pecan]

Ye reverted a previous change

[blissful leaf]

ooh okay coolio

[dawn orchid]

The new vfx was blinding and I couldnt see dick

[covert valve]

I said id sacrifice quell speed instead of charge rate in my example not wrap resistance if charge isn't so great then why the 10% charge rate of blessing

[tardy flower]

No more strobe light disco fist

[wise pecan]

I think they did fuck with how crits operate on surge?

[dawn orchid]

It's just what I happened to roll on it, started with crit

There's only like 5 blessings for the surge staff

And two of them are dogshit

[dawn orchid]

Some guy was in here saying that he looked at the code and found that surge crits had a base crit multi of 0 against flak

Instead of the usual 1

[severe folio]

lets goo

[sweet fractal]

How are the mistreated psykers doing

[severe folio]

can brain burst crit ?

[acoustic birch]

it's rough

[mild tartan]

What are the good ones? For some reason run n gun seems highly rated which makes no sense to me

[dawn orchid]

Warp flurry and warp nexus primarily, and maybe focused channeling depending on your staff

Unless you can use your secondary cast while moving with run and gun I don't see the point of it

[long wharf]

I wouldn't get warp flurry

[mild tartan]

Every single surge staff I’ve ever seen has terrifying barrage

[sour stirrup]

Terrifying Barrage seems overweighted to show up

[long wharf]

there are only 4 or 5 blessings the surge staff can roll

[dawn orchid]

5

Yeah there's definitely behind the scenes weighting

[humble garden]

i am an ogryn player but i thought it would be good to ask, how should i synergize with psyker as i dont understand anything abt him

[dawn orchid]

Infernus and lacerate basically never show up in the shop for example

[mild tartan]

Be a meatshield

[dawn orchid]

Don't let things whack him so he can cast

[covert valve]

So then then the warp flurry will be dog shit from your statement saying casting rate isnt important... Like I said on my post of similar staff posted I would rather sacrifice quell speed out of them all bcuz quelling from 100% is around 5s and it shaves 1 second off and on TOP of that I personally swap to sword so I can actively attack. Please dont mix up what your posting wrap vs casting rate

[dawn orchid]

Depends on the staff, I was specifically talking about surge.

[sour stirrup]

Staff attacks go through you so I don't think it's that big of an issue to jump in front of a Psyker.

[mild tartan]

How significant is the critical bonus stat?

[long wharf]

no, it really doesn't matter which staff you get warp flurry on

currently, warp flurry is useless

[humble garden]

will be actual bodygaurd, bet thanks

[mild tartan]

He says as I just upgraded my staff to have Warp flurry lol

Noooo

[blissful leaf]

so what are the best blessings then for a surge staff?

[dawn orchid]

I think he's saying that because it was bugged

[long wharf]

supposedly we'll be able to swap blessings in the future

[jovial quail]

There we go, cleaned it up. 9 out of 13 emperor gifts have been guns lol. This is infuriating

[naive dawn]

Fun fact too, emperors gifts are capped at 20 per week and per account.

[cyan notch]

i dont even get yellows

[dawn orchid]

Please elaborate

[mild tartan]

Every single one of mine has been guns. Except the first two drops I ever got I got extremely good Mk V axe and void staff on launch day. Literally haven’t found anything better since in either slot lol

[covert cosmos]

Embrace gun psyker

[jovial quail]

Unless it resets today, this is my week's worth of emperor gifts. I honestly think emperor gifts softcap at 20 on each character.

[naive dawn]

I'm like 90% positive its 20 per account per week.

[warped perch]

[naive dawn]

Doesn't matter what character your account gets 20.

[mild tartan]

Clearly Fatshark wants people to play gun psyker based off of drops

[strange canyon]

a tradgedy in two parts

[warped perch]

Gun psyker is heresy 😤

[jovial quail]

The reset must be today then, i've been pretty accurate with the notepad this entire week while doing weeklies on each character (Giving up on Veteran because I hate him)

[naive dawn]

oh man, thats a incredible purg

[mild tartan]

Lucky fuck, I just hit 4000 challenge token things and my surge staff in the shop is way worse

[naive dawn]

Reset is tomorrow I believe, with the weekly contract.

[blissful leaf]

what blessings do you lads recommend for the surge staff?

[long wharf]

my vet just got this in the shop

[strange canyon]

my brother I cannot purchase it

[jovial quail]

Then you can definitely go past 20 a week on account

[naive dawn]

I could be wrong, I dont have any evidence I just know after close to 20 I get zero rewards the rest of my games.

[jovial quail]

Its just 20 per character more than likely

[mild tartan]

Already finished up your challenges for the week?

[jovial quail]

or 20 then thats the softcap making it increasingly harder to get after

[mild tartan]

That’s a shame

[warped perch]

What’s the second part

[strange canyon]

the fact i am broke

[warped perch]

What’s the first part

[strange canyon]

sadly yes, the emperor sends these tests to try us

[mild tartan]

Yeah I’m saving all the ones I get up for something really good, have only ever seen half decent curios in the emporium so far. Only Time I’ve seen a +3 stamina one

[naive dawn]

I'm actually surprised Melk has a good weapon, most of his modifiers are like sub 350 but the blessings are 90, so the game things its a good weapon.

When its a staff with 17% damage.

[strange canyon]

just gotta check every day, always worth a look beacuse you know almost EXACTLY what you're getting

[dawn orchid]

Ideal blessing setup, but wrong base type to make the most out of infernus. Mk6 works best for it.

[long wharf]

yeah I know 😦

I'm tempted to get it just the same

[naive dawn]

@strange canyon Believe me I check, I've bought exactly 1 item from Melk on my Psyker.

[long wharf]

nope, I totally shouldn't

[warped perch]

Melk is an agent of the chaos gods

[long wharf]

he's a bitch, that's what he is

[naive dawn]

lol

time to mute my game and reroll till I get 25% on a weapon perk for 30mins.

[strange canyon]

yeah ive bought like 3 things total lol

[clear heath]

oh it's time to check daily scam shop

IT'S ALL GUNS

[covert cosmos]

Gun psyker is waiting for you

The god emperor says staves are for nerds

[digital narwhal]

You guys are getting Emperor's Gifts?

I haven't gotten one since Level 12-ish

I forgot they even existed

[leaden pier]

should i get this from melks?

[vivid marten]

Time to become Sankta and embrace the weapons you were gifted by the god of RNG.

[covert valve]

Which deulling sword do you guys like using?

[leaden pier]

im currently using the mk V, but i dunno what the other's are like

other than the mk IV heavies are a stab instead of an overhead slash like the others

[remote tusk]

I asked around a few days ago, the bigwigs are running mk5

[covert cosmos]

They all seem fine

I think the poke has more range?

But ds has a crazy headshot multiplier, so hard to say no to an overhead

I need to actually test the range...

[naive dawn]

Mk 5 has the best mobility/dodge

The rest are about half of it

MK5 has 15% dodge the rest have sub 8

IMo mk5 has the best light combo too.

[crisp yacht]

left or right? which perks to reroll if any

[naive dawn]

Would reroll left one to 10% elite imo. Save it for when you can reroll blessing and replace terrifying with a t4 Transfer Peril IMO.

[covert cosmos]

I like right. Can reroll crit chance

[naive dawn]

Save the 10% special

Left one is far strong after you can reroll the blessing

[crisp yacht]

yea

[covert cosmos]

Oh true

[crisp yacht]

def gonna save it

[naive dawn]

plus 10% special is massive already

so you could get 10% special + 10% elite

I would probably just use the right one for now however, better blessings

513 is massive for a weapon though

[cursive pecan]

Ah, fellow Psykers, What do you guys prefer as a mean of purging chaos, duelling sword or charge sword? I like charge sword cause of the Heretical magical block thing, but idk if i should switch to a duelling sword or not.

[naive dawn]

dagger

but I think DS is amazing for MK V, the dodge/speed is great.

[wise pecan]

Force sword = antax Mk v > everything else

[remote tusk]

I find it so hard to replace the passive quell you get for using non-force weapons. Just switch between melee and staff and you'll auto-quell while staying active, which will also regain toughness via the quietude skill.

[naive dawn]

I dont use force sword for that reason

[cyan notch]

not a big deal imo

[mild tartan]

So I got -8% warp flurry is this bugged ? Or is it just not a good blessing

[cursive pecan]

Ty

[naive dawn]

I think warp flurry is bugged

[mild tartan]

Seems like it was working if it’s meant to decrease charge time on secondary but it doesn’t seem to stack

[remote tusk]

yeah seems bugged

[mild tartan]

Back to my voidstrike for now then, this thing would be perfect if it had a better warp nexus roll

[night marten]

@echo parrot would take offense to that remark

(I like FS with purgatus)

[digital narwhal]

Meanwhile I find it hard to give up the unlimited dodges of the Force Sword;
I love dancing around with it.

Also because I use Purgatus and Psykinetic's Wrath (t2-1), so being on High Peril isn't much of an issue for me

[echo parrot]

Learn to dodge and maybe you won't have to rely on cheese

[wet gust]

worth to buy for 2.6k Melk Coins?

[digital narwhal]

Not really

[echo parrot]

No

[wise pecan]

dagger is alright, i just prefer for things to die when i hit them :P

[mild tartan]

Why tf is run n gun a 45 blessing

[echo parrot]

Skill issue

[wet gust]

Because is T3

All T3 are 45 and T4 55

[echo parrot]

Ok I meme but I run a Surge/Knife and Void/FS myself

[mild tartan]

It shouldn’t be

[wet gust]

Example

[wise pecan]

out of curiosity, why knife on surge? just for dodge good? i'd want to go for something with more horde clear

[echo parrot]

Horde clear isn't an issue for me because I dodge like crazy and always aim my arcs at weakpoints. As for elites surge handles all my CC and clutch needs making it easy to follow up with knife stabs.

I don't like to use Knife with void though because there is so little control one has with said kit

Despite my love for the knife

[whole wharf]

Man, run and gun really is not a great blessing for staves.

[remote tusk]

Like with every conceivable blessing and setup, we have people here who consider it the best one available

I hope they find peace

[whole wharf]

I just hope they can find some way to get value out of that awful perk.

Cause I have yet to find it.

[echo parrot]

Lance

Put a shirt on

It's 14 degrees outside

[glacial abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-water-gif-22182996

[jovial frigate]

must be nice

[night marten]

spawning in below the map

[clear heath]

lmao

did you try reconnecting?

[echo parrot]

Not really, I'm in Alabama atm

It's automatically worse

[jovial frigate]

minnesota is a swamp that also freezes, its pretty dumb

you get 90 degrees of swamp heat in the summer and then you see cats dead frozen mid-walking pose in the winter

[mild tartan]

Wtf lol

I’m in AZ been about 60 degrees average the past month lol

[glacial abyss]

im in florida u guys are all weak!

flow riding

https://tenor.com/view/crybaby-billy-butcher-karl-urban-the-boys-wah-wah-gif-17866102

[bleak tulip]

had the same happen to me today lol

[mild tartan]

Finally, been waiting for them to add this feature

[cyan notch]

so is this not intended lmao

[long wharf]

I figured that'd be fixed at some point

[cyan notch]

fixed as in fast quelling for everything or slow quelling for everything

[long wharf]

they're going to reduce the passive quelling on normal melee weapons to be slower than on force swords

mark my words

because pskyers don't get to have any fun

[tulip gale]

I feel like it's thematic, you're not troughing the warp when emptying rounds from an autogun. Should leave as is.

[long wharf]

I disagree, thematic would be force weapons being a better channel for warp access

not worse

[cyan notch]

id take that

[long wharf]

the passive quelling we currently get on normal melee weapons should be how the force sword passively quells

and vice versa

and passive quelling on staves should be bumped up a notch

[worn canopy]

Just survived an arctic blizzard

Epic win

[cyan notch]

i think passive on staffs are fine cuz they have much faster active quelling

[hardy socket]

i'm huffing hopium but i think they're gonna take that out and make quelling way faster

[long wharf]

you're dangerously close to ODing on hopium there

[hardy socket]

i mean there's maybe one or two glitches for psyker

there's like 5 for each other class

so if psyker gets nerfed i'm hoping they nerf everything else

[orchid nest]

This is what I was speculating before too. Something left over from the first day on the pre order beta before they "fixed" whatever they did when they said the quelling numbers were mixed up.

[hardy socket]

if i'm going down burn everyone else with me

[orchid nest]

the initial changes from 1.0.6 I'm talking about:

but yeah I'd like to see force sword just be faster too. and staves but less so. going by their intent though for the very baseline of active quelling to be 6 seconds and the non force weapons doing like 9 seconds passively though I'm gonna guess it's going to be nerfed.

[long wharf]

yep, tank psyker is going to disappear

[glacial abyss]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/912852315642404937/939327263516790784/ezgif-7-ad32bb2968-2.gif

[alpine portal]

great the "worst" class is getting a nerf. its ok, I dont use non force weapons any more. I fell in love with force sword

[hardy socket]

fatshark should buff every staff

straight up

make the width for void a lil bigger

make surge stun for longer

make purg do more damage

[mild tartan]

I agree, because its clearly the weakest class by far, but Idk if they want to keep it that way for whatever reason because it seems like it

[orchid nest]

I would like to see each staff have some force thing on the special too. even copy pasting the laspistol thing would be better than the swing

[alpine portal]

like a unique alt?

[orchid nest]

yeah

[jovial quail]

At bare minimum each staff should have its own unique left click

[alpine portal]

that would be sick. void staff 360 aoe?

[glad void]

Sienna staffs in VT2 had unique left clicks idk why they dont in Darktide

[jovial quail]

Yeah...

[alpine portal]

we know why....

[glad void]

yeah....

[jovial quail]

yeah...

[jovial frigate]

hey guys

Voicelines!

[alpine portal]

i actually bought a cosmetic for my psyker, gonna be up set if they newf the class.

[jovial quail]

I'd argue i'm one of the more diehard psyker fans that plays but if they keep gutting us without adding some added buffs along with the nerfs I might have to jumpship to Zealot lol

[alpine portal]

my other 30 is zelot, bleed is too much fun, but it lacks range

[mild tartan]

I've 100% all my psyker stuff and am gonna move onto another character but I really like the concept of the class, hope it becomes better over time

[jovial quail]

The highest highs i've gotten on this game are on zealot, but the lowest of the fking lows are on him too

[alpine portal]

then again im playing purgus soooo...

[jovial quail]

nothing pains me more than running knife/flamer on him and a sniper takes out my 3 teamates of 2 vets and a psyker

and they just ignore it while i'm flaming everything on them to give them the wiggle room to kill it

[alpine portal]

I pulled every one out on a psyker once that was insane.

or at least my heart rate was

[jovial quail]

Also, hot damn does Damnation pay out lol. I keep forgetting because its so hard to get a room going

[alpine portal]

wish i had a team and could learn more on how to play at that level maybe I should just start trashing pub games to learn

[simple junco]

Oh ye T5 is super worth

[jovial quail]

Just join on low intensity, it feels like high intensity heresy but gunners do hit a lil harder

everything else feels the exact same

Like we had a vet that d/c'd but we 3 man pyskered it no problem

[alpine portal]

is that why every one runs gunner curios

[jovial quail]

Honestly might have to switch around to find out, I still prefer stamina based curios

[orchid nest]

I had a funny damnation run this morning with 3 ogryns and me on psyker. we finished it. was hilarious with like 2 gg and a rumbler I think. was hard to keep track of which ones they had, maybe the other way around

[jovial quail]

but if I could get stamina + gunner reduction i'd be super happy

[mild tartan]

need to start doing damnation more but I really dont trust pugs at that point

[simple junco]

If you're worried about personal skill, a good metric is to survive a T4 horde without taking health damage. Learn the audio cues and who to prioritize in a fight based on your staff choice and you're golden after that.

[mellow ibex]

Yoo, it gave me Deflector when I upgraded it to a blue! 😄

[jovial quail]

Grats bud

[alpine portal]

I get stuck when the team splits, usually during a ausspec mission

I dont know who to stick with

[cyan notch]

idk about weakest class by far

[jovial quail]

I really need to give force sword another try if they're nerfing the quell on normal weapons. Knife is my life but if it gets butchered I might have to switch lol

[mild tartan]

Its definitely the biggest slog to level and doesn't become fully viable until you're pretty much max level

[alpine portal]

the team or the loaner. my instinct is to protect.

[jovial quail]

Idk man with kinetic deflection along with the variety you can bring along with far range countering i'd at least put us in 3rd and ogyrn 4th

[simple junco]

Oh those suck. Typically pull out your auspex and see who's going for the bulk of the objectives. Follow them and your fourth will either follow or get pounced. Just pick em up on the way back.

[remote tusk]

lol it seems like all the stuff we find great on psyker ends up being an unintended bug

[simple junco]

Can't help someone who doesn't want help, after all

[jovial quail]

Granted a mediocre ogryn can do good, I feel like theres 3 good psykers out of every 10 I play with

[cyan notch]

ok but level 30 is where you spend the most time

[proud mantle]

[alpine portal]

force sword is fun, its like a chain weapon that does more dmg, and has a shield.
Ill coruch down in front of the vet and block shots before a drop down they dont take a hit

[jovial quail]

Lol that's lowkey smart, if I played with a group i'd definitely do that

[mild tartan]

Point is, you need every advantage the game hands you to get on a level that other classes reach earlier, because they are more effective overall. Psyker isn't good enough at any particular thing to be a true specialist outside of pure CC

[jovial quail]

I picked the smaller body frame literally to make sure I don't get in way so I could actually take advantage of it as well

[cyan notch]

ogryn is worse imo

[alpine portal]

your like a vet, and an orgyn and a zelot... just a worse one/

[proud mantle]

i did this cause i thought it was funny to have a short psyker and tall zealot and the height difference threw me off so much i just went standard height

[alpine portal]

it works but you might need to call it out. usually good people notice.

[orchid nest]

I like FS a lot but it feels bad without slaughterer on damnation and I want deflector too so my quest continues of trying to get both

[jovial quail]

I'm perfectly fine with being the jack of all trades personally. I'll gladly do everything at 7/10 efficiency because that also allows me to fill every role as well incase we get like 3 ogyrns for example

Or if the entire team goes down I have the kit to do whatever I need to, to kill the entire room

[alpine portal]

always lol

[mild tartan]

Havent played ogryn so honestly cant speak to the effectiveness of them on an individual level but they almost always end up saving a group ime

[jovial quail]

@proud mantle If I could go back in time i'd definitely make average height/slightly above average because of void staff

but I never really use it anyways so its nbd

[simple junco]

Short purg supremacy

[jovial quail]

Yarp

[alpine portal]

im trying to get one with deflector and the peral quell.

[proud mantle]

i felt so sad when i couldnt reach heads with the devil claw sword lmao

[cyan notch]

theyre pretty garbage

[jovial quail]

LOL yeah I think that's why I love my knife so much, overhead swing lands perfectly and its easy to procc lacerate too

[alpine portal]

most of mine are tallest, becasue in melee I keep swinging low

[jovial quail]

https://tenor.com/view/look-up-scared-willem-dafoe-gif-17761333

basically me when fighting a horde

[proud mantle]

challenge to play tallest ogryn followed by shortest zealot and swap every round

[mild tartan]

I forgot to edit mine entirely which was a shame but it does put me at perfect headshot level lol

[alpine portal]

I think the hit boxed are smaller, so my orgyn is shortest

[jovial quail]

Yeah the smallest veteran can hide behind certain cover and not get hit but can't shoot enemies, the tallest will get hit but can also shoot as well

[orchid nest]

exorcist isn't bad but slaughterer is such a huge damage buff it's hard to go without. I want exorcist too but well.. can't have 3.

[jovial quail]

So hitboxes do in fact matter to a degree

Just not to the extreme

[alpine portal]

yet... lol

[orchid nest]

Haha yeah

[jovial quail]

I know we're getting reds eventually, theres absolutely no reason for them to put the max damage values in the game and it never be a thing.

[alpine portal]

I mean I have repost on mine.... idk what a sucessfull dodge is, but Im pretty shure I dont notice the diff

but it was a gold gift from emporer so I will NOT COMPLAIN THANK YOU GOD EMPORER

[orchid nest]

Yeah I have my slaughterer one and my deflector one. Never both though, done too many tries now.

[alpine portal]

edit precognition

my gear is only 350s base so Im still always looking

[remote tusk]

I have one with high stats, level 4 deflector, exorcist aaaaaand 12% damage.

[jovial quail]

So like this for example. The max power % it'll give is 4%? Or am I interpreting it incorrectly?

[orchid nest]

actually apparently that tooltip is wildly inaccurate and it gives a good amount more than that. someone was talking about it in a reddit post. like closer to 20% at high peril?

[jovial quail]

That seems much more reasonable

A t3 should not fking give 4% lmao no matter what the blessing is

[remote tusk]

• 4% buoyancy when strafing left

[orchid nest]

slaughterer t4 gives 75% at max stacks though and it refreshes all the stacks on kill

[alpine portal]

:0

[remote tusk]

it's such a wide gap between the blessings usefulness. Some make whole new builds available, others are completely unnoticable

adds to the slot machine feeling of getting loot drops

[jovial quail]

I just hope spending 2m+ on crappy weapons with blessings on them pays off when the crafting is fully released lmao

otherwise ima be a fking salty salmon

[orchid nest]

I have a t2 slaughterer right now and a 20% infested roll and it's just shy of 1 shotting poxwalkers to the head on damnation. reaches it with some combo of warp charges and the peril dmg talent. I imagine a t4 one might reach it just barely on its own

[cyan notch]

what else are you gonna do with all those dockets tho

[jovial quail]

There was datamine that was hinting that we'll get rerolls on shop soon

up to 4x. we're not sure if its per hour, per day or what though.

I'd assuming per hour though

or 3x? can't remember, 1k, 2k, 4k and maybe 6k

Damnit you guys got me all excited for slaughter that I had to try at consecration lmao

[orchid nest]

haha

[alpine portal]

I assumed blessings would be with diamantine

[thorn delta]

what is the priority for curios? health or toughness?

[jovial quail]

I personally think health, scales better % wise, and you can regen toughness pretty damn easily anyways

Shotgunners/flamers gonna blap off all your toughness in 1 hit anyways

[cyan notch]

im using all toughness now

seems the same as all health tbh

[jovial quail]

Plus with how chip damage works anyways you wanna be topped off regardless for that 100% blocking that 1 hit

[orchid nest]

I was all toughness, am now half and half with a wound. I don't notice a huge difference either unless people are picking up grims

[jovial quail]

I wish wounds were a perk instead of it being a blessing. I can't give up my +3 stamina or sacrifice another health curio for an extra wound that might come in handy every couple of games when I can get utility out of it every second. Granted might switch things up if I ever drop the knife.

[orchid nest]

I will say though that if they fix/change the toughness regen thing to increase the actual coherency regen amount there is an argument to be made there for all health curios because it's a static amount and not a %

the toughness regen perk I mean

[jovial quail]

God yea I hope they change it eventually. Even if they even take away a little and make it like 12-15% per curio

Do we know if these pipes are actually used for anything in the Darktide lore btw? Like do they help vent peril or something

It's not even connected to anything and infuriates me that its even there lol

[timid grove]

hey guys which psyker voice is the least annoying? i want to not piss my teammates off. kthx

[orchid nest]

yeah idk once you see the gauntlet pipes it can't be unseen. from what I can tell it doesn't even seem the same in first person?

[cyan notch]

psyker is just random tubes everywhere

[timid grove]

like im definitely not using the french psyker voice

[cyan notch]

french one is the least annoying

[timid grove]

wrong

ik ur being funny but, wrong

[cyan notch]

up to u then seems your mind is made up

[jovial quail]

I personally like The Savant. Except he has one stupid line about someone keeping the beat of the street that sounds Jamaican lol

I wish I went with the one that gets an absolute maniac laughing fit occasionally lol

always puts a smile on a face when I hear another psyker in a different room cackling for like 9 seconds straight

[wise pecan]

i like the male Seer the most, personally

[orchid nest]

seer does that

[wise pecan]

Seer cackles sometimes

Seer is very nice, just a good boy :)

[cyan notch]

except hes a crazy person

[orchid nest]

just a nice sane boy who loves to sing 🙂

[wise pecan]

is it really being crazy if he actually can just remove people from his dream, tho

[jovial quail]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-look-the-other-way-look-away-awkward-weird-gif-17246188

[timid grove]

i agree Seer is good

i mean tehcnically they're all good

[cyan notch]

wrong

[timid grove]

i just don't want to be shrill

[brisk panther]

santa gave me this

[timid grove]

im wrong that they're all good?

[cyan notch]

ik ur being funny but, wrong

[jovial quail]

The only voice I hate is one of the zealots one when he's wearing the golden mask, fking for like 3 days after it released when I was still using headphones i'd keep thinking a fking trapper spawned right behind me when he starts laughing

[timid grove]

umad

[jovial quail]

God damnit that was annoying

[timid grove]

never heard a laughing zealot line

i've only heard laughing ogryn

o hohoho oohoooho

[jovial quail]

Lmao

[alpine portal]

so went pub with 3 zelots.... guess who was the last to go down?

tier 4

[cyan notch]

zealot

[alpine portal]

hint it was not a zelot

[cyan notch]

zola

[alpine portal]

I forgot my wound curio.... it would not have helped lol

[orchid nest]

the most fun thing is joining a game in progress and it's all veterans with camo instead of unwavering and you poke your head out and get blasted

[alpine portal]

the one where they dont pull agro?

[orchid nest]

yeah haha

[alpine portal]

lol it sounds good in theroy.

[orchid nest]

it's just nice on damnation having them be able to tank shots for the team instead of the shots hitting someone else who isn't nearly as well equipped to do so

camo is nice though for shooting specials in hectic situations. would be nice if at least one was unwavering taking point, just funny when they are all camo

[alpine portal]

does it work lol? or does it just completly fail

all 4

[orchid nest]

I think it works on a priority list so if all 4 had camo it'd just still choose someone

[tulip drum]

darn

my first deflector FS and the stats are bleh

[fallow loom]

can purgatus staff crit?

[orchid nest]

t3 deflector though, should still be good for taking the blessing off/combining when we have full crafting system

[orchid nest]

yes and it gives an extra stack of the dot. so it's generally very good.

[fallow loom]

when it hits it gives a yellow indicator, right?

[alpine portal]

it makes a sound like most things

[hollow steeple]

purgatus can crit
I wish I had shred on my good deflector force sword
I only have the one that lowers peril on repeated weak spot hits

[alpine portal]

Ill trade you LOL

[orchid nest]

uh oh, don't tell moose that

[alpine portal]

lol

Im beginning to see why quell is less important. just use to swaping to my sword when my peral is high

[hollow steeple]

I only really do that when using something other than the force sword
but honestly deflector + kinetic deflection feels so good that it's real tough to give it up haha

[alpine portal]

yah maybe we can get a force knife or something? something other than a sword.

Idk if its lore

[hollow steeple]

force axes are a thing

[alpine portal]

deflector brutal momentum?

[hollow steeple]

I really want the 2h force sword
if only because I really like 2h weapons

[orchid nest]

there is all kinds of force weapons. the next one going off the file/leak though is prob force 2h sword

[alpine portal]

slow and powerfull?

to be honest it feels amazing to bb a bulwark and then charge fs him in the head when he is stunnes

[nimble needle]

Barbarisater was reforged into something like a rapier, if memory serves

[orchid nest]

I personally imagine it as having great cleave and less single target like the vermintide 2h swords but they could do anything I guess

maybe a special that's more similar to the power sword one functionality wise

[hollow steeple]

I'm kind of hoping it's basically an executioner sword, but I know that's unlikely

[floral solstice]

worth investing on the blue one to replace my current one? haven't tested the difference in radius yet

[orchid nest]

yeah that would be pretty cool

[alpine portal]

ive read here or reddit the inquisition has access to nemesis weapons

[hollow steeple]

i mean, I'd be totally down for like a force halberd

[orchid nest]

maybe we will see like a bolt pistol with psybolts too then. or psybolt special ammo single shot like the shotguns special

[nimble needle]

IMO, yeah.

[glass thistle]

what is the meaning of this blessing ?.? isnt that this staff sec attack ignore armor already?

rending for what?

[alpine portal]

manage peril and ammo?

[alpine portal]

it reduces the effectiveness or armor. i cant remember if its for you or for every one

[glass thistle]

for the secondry attack only

[nimble needle]

I think rending is for you, brittle is for everyone

[orchid nest]

possibly. tbh even a force sword and laspistol combo would be cool like victors rapier/pistol in vermintide

[alpine portal]

yah.

[glass thistle]

but its attack already not affect by armor

[alpine portal]

good point.... umm idk?

[nimble needle]

If it builds rending as a buff then you can primary fire/sword other enemies

[jovial frigate]

what is dagger dump stat

[alpine portal]

ive herd in zelot side it needs ballance?

maybe for us mobility?

[jovial frigate]

yeah not super sure was trying to figure t hat out

highest voidstrike i've seen so far but not sure what im thinking of the base

[alpine portal]

good for hord clear?

[jovial frigate]

blessing perk base

[alpine portal]

its slightly better than mine

[jovial frigate]

heres my other one, idk hwo i'd feel about losing that much blast radii for charge rate essentially

[alpine portal]

ive herd radius is dump on void?

[cyan notch]

no its charge rate

[jovial frigate]

is it? I assumed charge rate

esp if u can get that uh

that one blessing

flurry

[alpine portal]

warp flurry?

[jovial frigate]

ye

[alpine portal]

oh, like I said I herd, maybe missed people saying they were wrong or it was a different staff lol

[jovial frigate]

i guess i just gotta make the purple legendary and see what I get

[manic needle]

Is it just me or is the listed item value assigned to stat points almost always wrong?

Sometimes it's higher, sometimes it's lower, but it never seems to be the sum total of all your item's stat values

[jovial frigate]

yes because base value can go to like the hundreths decimal or something

[manic needle]

That exsplains a bit of it, but I also have items where the total is like 11 points off

it's so weird

[jovial frigate]

that happens on curios i believe and that is because perk values are actually 25 and 30 points vs the visually seen 20 and 25

kinda

[manic needle]

wew lad

[jovial frigate]

it depends on the perk too i believe lmao

[manic needle]

I think it happened on one of my staffs too though, let me check

[jovial frigate]

theres so much goober math going on in curios

i have seen though uh where people upgrade a staff

and it visually loses points but thats a bug

it doesnt actally lose points its just visual memery

[manic needle]

Okay no, the staff I was looking at is just the standard +5 you get for consecrating for some reason

[exotic mason]

So guys, what perks and blessings I should look in dueling sword?

[jovial frigate]

i dont fence so idk

maybe unarmored dam or something but honestly not sure

[left basin]

should i

[warm ruin]

cancelled an overload with the ability for the first time and oh my god that felt good

[manic needle]

Duelling swords, Combat blades.... some of you guys must really love wrist pain

[cyan notch]

u should see vt2 combat

[manic needle]

I avoided the Rapier in VT2 to be honest, never was a fan

[ebon wigeon]

wow just played with an extremely toxic psyker

got mad i didnt have two wound curios and force sword + staff

[cyan notch]

rapier is really good in vt2

[manic needle]

Ive seen it used quite effectively, but it's not for me personally

Not because its bad, but because I prefer high cleave weapons

Well, higher since the light attacks were at least passable horde clear.

[tulip drum]

it's the only melee weapon I use for WHC

juicy headshots and crits removing man sized enemies

[cyan notch]

you can special attack while blocking + low block cost

[tulip drum]

zerkers can't do shit to youo

[manic needle]

One nice thing I remember was good mobility while blocking

[cyan notch]

ez headshots + flense stacking up bleed to the millions

[hardy lily]

do objects have autoquell like med kits

[jovial quail]

I'm losing my mind

[cyan notch]

lol thats nuts

[jovial quail]

25 games done today, ima frow up

[manic needle]

I thought I might go for the Skull Hoarder portrait (1,000,000 enemies killed), but then I realized that I preferred having my sanity instead

[jovial quail]

yea i'm only at 254k lmao... once solo comes out and if endless horde bug is still around i'll give it a swing

But I fking want this frame so badly

[simple junco]

If you sat at an unlimited horde with a pergatus staff, I wonder how long that would take

Like, just straight farming

[drowsy fog]

well my in-laws like me. Got $220 worth of gift cards

[jovial quail]

I'd say you'd average 1,000-1,500 kills per 10 mins if you killed the bots

[manic needle]

Some say that the first person to put this question to the test is still farming to this very day.

Honestly it might be fun to try for in the right spot with a full group of friends in Discord. Just farm at the very end of a mission before entering the Valkyrie.

[jovial quail]

according to this and average time of 15-18 mins per game I get 500 kills so if you figure you're just straight murdering i'd say even 2k per 10 mins would be completely doable

Zealot would be by far the best to get it though if you plan on naturally getting it

I get so many kills stolen at like 10% hp because of soulblaze

Versus flamestaff just immediately murking entire maps lol

[drowsy fog]

dont recognize the name of that one, did we get new penances?

[manic needle]

Thats only what, slightly over 83 hours of grinding? Assuming youre starting from scratch

"only"

[tulip drum]

for Force Sword, do most people take Psykinetic's Wrath for more damage or Inner Tranq for peril resist (FS has deflector and I'm using Kinetic Deflection peril block)

[jovial quail]

No idea

[simple junco]

Depends on how you use your staff. if you melee everything under the sun, you can make PW work. Though if you're mixing in BB I'd recommend Tranquility.

[lean moth]

what perks should i aim for with a purg staff? i normally run surge or voidstrike staves so i'm not sure what the best ones for purg are, i guess more unarmored dmg or flak armor dmg instead of specialists?

[drowsy fog]

flak and crit chance

[manic needle]

I exclusively use staffs for the alt fire melee attack, like a true chad.

[jovial quail]

Yea grab 5% crit minimum

[simple junco]

Flak and ranged crit chance.

Crit purg is gr9

[deft oak]

Are any of these rapiers worth anything?

[lean moth]

i can only choose one at this point so i guess crit?

[alpine portal]

gr9 slightly better than gr8?

🙂

[simple junco]

Just by 1

[deft oak]

Real question is which one does he re roll? Groaners o r Specials?

[jovial quail]

I hate comparing this game to DRG but its so damn easy to, I wish we had a fking terminal like DRG so I could see my kills per character, time in actual games per character and all those stats

GOD DAMNIT DRG IS SUCH A GOOD GAME

[simple junco]

Groaners. Either is moot though.

We're rich

[night marten]

I'm going to say it

I actually walked away from DRG a little disappointed

[jovial quail]

Completely understandable. I know its not for everyone

but for the people it is for, its so fking good

Same for like minecraft i'd assume

[alpine portal]

idk im running wrath

[jovial quail]

and fornite, I can't stand either

But I understand why they're good

[simple junco]

Terraria is also apparently an acquired taste

[night marten]

It was so much fun, until I realized there didn't appear to be much of any "progression"

[jovial quail]

Yeah thats another gem that I just can't polish

[alpine portal]

but I run with an avrage of 50 peral for inner tranquil edit quietdude

[simple junco]

I'm in the same boat here. Didn't have a good group to play with and my experiences boiled down to mushroom with randoms.

[jovial quail]

You're talking to a dude that's almost 1000 prestige Tbf theres at least months of content if you're hunting for overclocks and such

Like if I didnt have this artificial grind for this frame i'd probably have quit a few weeks after release

I'm actually scared once i get it next week

[night marten]

I'm looking at the hazards frame lol

already completed all the psyker penances

[jovial quail]

I guess I still want to hit 10m ortho though on my psyker. I think just hardcore grinding uprising/malice with my brain shutoff is killing the game

I miss my endless horde heresy/damnation runs lol

[simple junco]

I wish the larger community would just catch up and do damnation.

[jovial quail]

Dude right? It's so fking fun and most teams I get in it are competent

its just so few that are willing to even try it

and I get it. The rewards aren't there

[drowsy fog]

the community at large struggles with malice

[jovial quail]

But damn does the challenge really bring the game to life

[simple junco]

The reward is getting to play with better teammates lol

[alpine portal]

people dying fits in with lore tho lol

[simple junco]

But yeah, competent randoms into endless damnation is really something else

[deft oak]

can anyone look at the rapiers for me? :x

[jovial quail]

I give up arguing with people about why I want to play heresy/damnation though. Sure the rewards aren't there for them, but the same could be said about catalysm on v2

Like the reward is fking the accumulation of all the experience you've gotten and actually putting it to the test

[simple junco]

Exactly

[manic needle]

The challenge is the reward. Why do people expect handouts for raising the difficulty nowadays?

[clear heath]

It's fun but i wish it gave more plasteel

[alpine portal]

hay yall is it shread that works with secondary weapons?

[jovial quail]

I mean even then, that 38k from that damnation run earlier today still feels pretty fking good knowing we're more than likely going to get rerolls for shop, along with how many t1-t2 blessings you'll probably need to make a t4

[deft oak]

The hunt for plasteel has taken me from 5s back to 2s and 3s.

[night marten]

I think that would really make a difference

just make the crafting mat rewards kind of bonkers

[jovial quail]

Yea Plasteel definitely needs to be addressed

I'm more frustrated with that then any emperor gift or any reward from heresy/damnation

[manic needle]

Just let us break down items we own into components instead of selling them for Ordo Dockets

[simple junco]

Reduced gold gain in return for more materials on T5 would be pretty nice

[night marten]

doesn't even have to be weapons or anything, just give people lots of material needed to really minmax gear sets

[simple junco]

Discourage pre-30s from doing T5 and encourage experienced players to do it

[manic needle]

Im not really qualified to look at Duelling Swords, sorry

[alpine portal]

that might hurt "player retention"

[manic needle]

I imagine you want things like mobility and damage vs. weak spots though

[drowsy fog]

no wayyyy then you could buy up the shop and have a free mats machine and that would make you need to grind less!

[alpine portal]

you might need to waite a few days friend its christmas day

[simple junco]

I don't think the rapier crowd is here right now. This is a knife chat. Probably.

[manic needle]

Personally I'm an Axe man

[simple junco]

Stick-knife, gotcha

[manic needle]

But Im coming back around to Force Sword now that I have a decent one with deflector.

[jovial quail]

@deft oak Honestly with rapiers i'd wait till you at least get a t4 rampage or Uncanny strike before investing heavily into it

[buoyant mantle]

sniper or gunner resistance 🤔

[alpine portal]

been running one with the flame staff. its fun

[simple junco]

Gunner would definitely help you out in more situations

[jovial quail]

Sniper resist wasn't worth it for heresy/damnation imo, tried 60%

Still got my fking teeth kicked in

[ebon wigeon]

which staff is the best looking

[jovial quail]

gunner might meet some breakpoints to let you keep some shield

[ebon wigeon]

i dont like the book on a stick, wanna get a skin

[simple junco]

Purgatus looks pretty snazzy

[jovial quail]

That's kinda subjective imo, whichever looks best to you

[drowsy fog]

best looking staff is voidstrike

[alpine portal]

its like 2 t3 games to change it

[jovial quail]

I love purg but prefer voidstrike's skin

[drowsy fog]

thats why my purg has a void skin lol

[deft oak]

works for me

[manic needle]

The important thing for me is having a staff that's good for Horde clear since youre not doing shit with the Force Sword vs. hordes. I got a good Voidstrike earlier today so Im switching back to FS for a few test runs.

[ebon wigeon]

ill get the nightshade camo i guess

[simple junco]

Can't go wrong with fashion souls

[drowsy fog]

purg n devil claw bb, hordes are my safest situation

[ebon wigeon]

even though trauma and void are the same with color swaps

[simple junco]

Purg and knife for style points

[jovial quail]

@deft oak Yeah sorry bud, with how strong Lacerate knife/Deflector Force sword is, it's definitely worth grabbing a god tier dueling sword but as of right now its kinda overshadowed

[drowsy fog]

clutched a game last night cuz I was the only one left with a horde and I just parried the entire horde to death then picked everyone up

[deft oak]

So i should also be hunting for a lacerate knife as a psyker?

[ebon wigeon]

im forced to use surge cuz i have a good staff

[drowsy fog]

would have hacked if it was just walkers but there were ragers too so parry had to be done

[jovial quail]

If you run knife I highly highly recommend trying a +3 stamina with a bunch of sprint effiency perks. I know you're sacrificing a little HP but its absurdly noticeable

You get like 3-4x the distance with movetech

[manic needle]

I'd feel sorry for you if I didnt really like Surge Staff lol

[deft oak]

I have a few decent +3 stamina saves, so that certainly catches my attention

[jovial quail]

I spent like 45 mins in the meatgrinder doing suicides lmao

[ebon wigeon]

i dont even know what to do with it

[deft oak]

not saves, but tired lol

[jovial quail]

4.16 was stock stamina sprint with knife. With a good +3 stamina/sprint effiency i got up to 12.68

Arguably you can just power slide everywhere, but realistically you'll want to chain heavy attacks into heads of enemies you're running at anyways

plus turning corners and a variable of other factors I 1000% recommend at least trying it

[ebon wigeon]

also not sure what to do with curios

https://i.imgur.com/M0vJ5gS.png i have this

[jovial quail]

It's basically back to where we were pre momentum nerf

[ebon wigeon]

and a +1 on my melee means i have a lot of stamina

[jovial quail]

Yarp

[ebon wigeon]

i dont really know what stamina does for me though

[buoyant mantle]

40 or60 % gunner resis

[jovial quail]

because of lacerate covering the lower dps the +1 stamina and 15% sprint effiency is great

[drowsy fog]

stamina is sprinting, blocking, shoving

[ebon wigeon]

but we always have 100 stamina right? how does it help with sprinting

[clear heath]

It's not really that important for blocking though as psyker

[jovial quail]

Stamina drains when you sprint

[clear heath]

peril block moment

[jovial quail]

and once you hit 0% you run 50% slower than with stamina

[buoyant mantle]

60 i have to sacrifice 20 grimoires resis

[jovial quail]

Zealot is 75% so he can sorta make due without needing a bunch

[drowsy fog]

zealot has so much more stam than us

[jovial quail]

I'd still take psyker's stamina kit over zealots though tbh

I can cover the weaknesses with perks/curios but a zealot can't infinite block heavy attack with knife like we can

[clear heath]

zealot takes half damage when sprinting
we take 25% more damage when we sprint

[ebon wigeon]

should i be using a wound curio

[jovial quail]

If you die a bunch sure

[buoyant mantle]

above 3 yeah

[clear heath]

If you have to ask, probably

[jovial quail]

I personally think 3 health curios or +3 stamina and 2 health curios is far superior though

and just making smarter plays

[clear heath]

at some point you'll do enough damnation runs where you don't go down enough and realize it's not helping much anymore
but early on it's a nice safety net

[jovial quail]

(If you're not using knife though, you can pretty much ignore almost all stamina related perks)

Yeah for sure

I cannot stress enough if you guys aren't using Kinetic deflector please immediately equip it and give it a shot

[ebon wigeon]

i mean im just noticing we only have 2 in heresy and damn

[drowsy fog]

deflector op, be the tank you deserve to be

[ebon wigeon]

i use an axe

[jovial quail]

Unlike Vermintide this game shubs so much health stations/meds down your throat i personally don't think its neccessary

[drowsy fog]

the deflector feat

[ebon wigeon]

i love my axe https://i.imgur.com/xhnP7Gr.png

[jovial quail]

Yeah so i'd not recommend grabbing a bunch of stamina, you won't be able to capitilize on it near as much

just get 3 transcended curios with 21% hp and reroll 5% hp on each one and you should be set

[buoyant mantle]

honestly i'd rather to have soulfire and crit stacking on my force sword

[ebon wigeon]

sure lemme just get a bunch of 21% hp curios :V

[buoyant mantle]

dont get me wrong , deflect is really nice too lol

[jovial quail]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-look-the-other-way-look-away-awkward-weird-gif-17246188

[clear heath]

the soulblaze on crit force sword is really underwelming

the thing barely crits

[buoyant mantle]

well, already farmed out a good base, might aswell make it lol

[clear heath]

tier 4 soulblaze on crit is just 2 stacks of soulblaze
which is like 18 damage per tick

[jovial quail]

I'm still furious I got this in beta and it's still my highest power rated weapon on psyker

[buoyant mantle]

isnt tier 4 stack 4 stack

[idle shuttle]

theres 21s?

only seent 20's

[buoyant mantle]

instead of 2

[jovial quail]

@idle shuttle Yarp

[clear heath]

Soulblaze is only really good if you have a lot of stacks, cause it gets scales up the more you have
But if you have this many stacks, you probably are running purg,and it'd make more sense to just use that to burn than to swing like 8 times to get 2 more stacks on

[buoyant mantle]

Blazing Spirit
Enemy gains +2/4 Stacks of Soulblaze on Critical Hit. Max 10/12 stacks
Weapons: Force Sword,

[clear heath]

nope

[buoyant mantle]

yeah it's 4 on tier four

[clear heath]

Maybe they'll release tier 5 someday

[buoyant mantle]

your on tier 3 lol

[clear heath]

No that's tier 4

tier 1 has 0 lines

[buoyant mantle]

my man

[jovial quail]

I heard someone say someone posted on reddit that block efficiency perks with deflector force sword actually gives more peril due to a bug, does anyone have the post?

[clear heath]

if that's tier 3, then tier 4 doesn't exist yet
but their dev post says tier 4 currently exists and they're adding tier 5 soon

Listen, tier 1 starts at 0 lines.
tier 2 is 1

tier 3 is 2, tier 4 is 3

[idle shuttle]

are people just running all health now?

[manic needle]

???

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1032844566971297833/1056302966035992586/Voidstrike.png

Transfer Peril perk

[idle shuttle]

I have health tough wound

[jovial quail]

I personally am. With the change to how toughness works now I dont see any reason to get more

[buoyant mantle]

this lol

[clear heath]

oh wtf

[idle shuttle]

what was the change?

[clear heath]

so i guess 0 lines is tier 0

[buoyant mantle]

check yo source every now and then ppl

[clear heath]

I've actually never seen t4 before then

[jovial quail]

If you have 100% toughness and like a pox walker hits you, itll block 100% but if you're at 75% toughness it'll block 75% of the damage

Back in beta it bled through

So realistically I personally want as much HP as I can, it scales better % wise, HP curios get higher % as of right now as well

[idle shuttle]

hmm.. though toughness comes back

[jovial quail]

The faster you can get back to 100/100 toughness the better, having to get back up to like 150 takes longer

Yeah but depending on your weapon you're getting so much toughness back anyways

[clear heath]

It doesn't though, since you gain in percentage

[jovial quail]

Ahh yeah fair

[clear heath]

well, coherency's flat i think, but kills and feats are percentage

[jovial quail]

Yeah

[lime gorge]

I thought coherency was also %

[clear heath]

and feat is a huge portion of what you gain as a psyker

[jovial quail]

Idk either works, I just personally think with how many things can just insta blap your entire toughness off the face of the earth, hp is more consistent in heresy/damnation

[manic needle]

My old Surge staff also had a T4 perk. God I want one with better Warp Resistance, though. Such an unfortunate roll.

[jovial quail]

Whats your new surge look like? That's a fking keeper in my book

[manic needle]

My new surge staff is a Voidstrike staff lol

[clear heath]

Has anyone ever seen t4 blazing spirit or deflector?

[jovial quail]

Good, I personally hate surge staff and think its a crutch that falls off hard in heresy/damnation without a balanced team

[manic needle]

Not in person but Deflector should be a 12% reduction

[clear heath]

Surge works fine in damnation

[idle shuttle]

I dont like surge because its the best staff hands down

and all you can really pick

so if I want to change weapons.. i hop on ogryn

[clear heath]

You only need like 1 good dps in the team to make surge work in damnation, and most randoms are running dps builds anyways

[manic needle]

Surge is all about controlling elites and specials, as well as melting scabs behind cover in a moderately efficient manner

[clear heath]

It's not like you're frequently running into comps that are like 4 surge psykers or something

[idle shuttle]

that would be amazing

[jovial quail]

you'd think lol

[manic needle]

The most Ive ever had in one game is 3 lol

[jovial quail]

Don't get me wrong, I absolutely see the pros to having one

[lime gorge]

Maybe just a small sample size but every time I run surge in damnation there’s no one dealing with hordes, like every single person set themselves up as an elite hunter and that’s it

[jovial quail]

^

[clear heath]

all 4 psykers stunning the same targets and doing no damage during a horde would be hilarious

[jovial quail]

Purg can stunlock all elites/specials and knock dogs off teamates as well, with the only exception of mutants. Plus you can still push away poxwalkers as well.

[idle shuttle]

ok 2 purg 2 surge

[celest hedge]

like a surge staff can do a little against a horde but nowhere to the level of all the other staves

[idle shuttle]

: )

[jovial quail]

And void also has a bunch of utility, I don't like using it but I definitely see the appeal

[manic needle]

Thats why I run an Antax Mk. 5 Combat Axe as my melee, I can clear hordes fairly efficiently with it while my peril drops off naturally.

[idle shuttle]

4 trauma staff party

[jovial quail]

all 4 imploding 3 feet off the dropship

[clear heath]

Void is a fine staff
but i have a personal hatred of it because every random i've seen with it has been dissappointing

[idle shuttle]

i actually killmyself on drop ship every game

walk in at 100%

[jovial quail]

I've never had a voidstriker on my team and be like "Holy crap that dude is putting in work"

[clear heath]

something about being the only staff with satisfying damage that requires aiming attracts the worst psykers on earth

[jovial quail]

Granted I know personally it can be amazing, especially with flurry/quell on weakspot hit

[alpine portal]

Im hoping it was not my head a splode

[jovial quail]

but having a 360 stunlock on horde covering all 3 teamates versus having to setup lines efficiently idk

Still its good I won't argue that.

[celest hedge]

void I think is fine overall, I just have trouble telling the voidstrike secondary hits apart from the basic M1 hit on every other staff

[jovial quail]

I need to see if you can still rapid fire it's secondary though

[clear heath]

You can still quell cancel it

[jovial quail]

Crashing entire teams in heresy/damnation was a hoot

[buoyant mantle]

any thought ?

[jovial quail]

I'd absolutely give up 20 grim for 20% more gunner resist personally

[clear heath]

i usually just don't run grimoires in damnation

[jovial quail]

Yeah the only times you're doing grims is if you're on a cracked team in heresy/damnation

otherwise you're just doing uprising/malice speed runs lol

and i heard it only affects the % it drains your hp and not the initial bit

granted that mightve been patched

[clear heath]

I've heard that too

[clear heath]

Oh right, you were looking for this?
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/block-effiency-causes-you-to-generate-more-peril-with-the-peril-when-blocking-perk/70868

[jovial quail]

Hell yea thanks

[clear heath]

I don't know how they tested it though and i'm not sure if it's true

[jovial quail]

I like to give my opinion on stuff but also like to have as much knowledge about bugs/how things work so wanted to personally read it

[clear heath]

Like i tried replicating it here, but it didn't happen to me so idk

Maybe there's some more steps that cause the bug that we don't know

I used a 12% curio tho, and the person why said it was bugged said they used a 10%, so maybe that matters?

Or maybe we're using different tiers of deflector

or they just had peril res on warp charge and forgot to look at their warp charge count

[next pine]

Is there a way to turn off the last down effect?

HOLY FK is it annoying

[clear heath]

You mean the screen getting more gray?

[next pine]

Ye

[clear heath]

not that i know of

[next pine]

Damnit

[clear heath]

i hate it too

[next pine]

It's actually a debuff

Especially with purg

[raw stag]

Color blind mode

[clear heath]

this is why you should just never go down

[next pine]

Grims bruv

I'm a 2 wound gamer

[clear heath]

speedrun and steal all the medicae station charges

[next pine]

Ahhhh

There we go

I seriously hope it doesn't take a mod to have that as an option like in vt2

Because I don't see mod support coming any time soon.

[woeful cliff]

Thoughts on being funny with Deflection and block efficiency and just dodging and blocking everywhere

[night marten]

good strat to pulled ranged into melee

[next pine]

I crutch it when using purg without a vet on the team

[night marten]

yea if I don't have an ogryn or zealot who's charging into ranged to pull them into melee, I'll just do it with deflector lol

[next pine]

Just T-1000 walk and slide your way into their grills

[night marten]

gotta be careful due to it's limited block cone, but someone has to get in there

[next pine]

Exactly

"Fine, I'll do it myself"

[woeful cliff]

I just find it really nifty what with Force Sword's weird unlimited dodge privilege

[night marten]

start pushing to deny them as they clump up. you can "drag" the closest ones with you as you move towards the back, dodging and pushing as you go

[next pine]

Best part about it

[clear heath]

Honestly it feels like an unecessary meme strat to stack block eff with it
but i do it so who am i to judge?

[night marten]

having just a little is kind of important imo, if you're going to use it to approach a full pack anyway

[jovial quail]

I fking hope we get the coruscation staff from vermintide. I miss that fking beauty

[night marten]

you definitely notice having a low-tier blessing with no added efficiency

[woeful cliff]

With or without kinetic deflection

[next pine]

Always with

[wise pecan]

This is why I run a +wounds, for Heresy+

[next pine]

Busted ass perk imo

[clear heath]

I mean you could also like, attempt to dodge while approaching
You can block while sliding and dodging anyways

[next pine]

But that's suboptimal and I hate it

Totally understand tho

[wise pecan]

Not having the screen desaturated does far more for me than 30 hp ever could

[woeful cliff]

I know, and with how often Psyker gets to dodge, getting unlimited of them, and Peril charging independently from Stamina, I feel really slippery. I'm covered in soap.

[next pine]

Hmmmmmmmm you make a good point

Damnit

[woeful cliff]

But

What about

[wise pecan]

Hahahaha

[woeful cliff]

32 HP

[next pine]

Now I gotta find a good +wound curio

[ebon wigeon]

im under the impression other classes dont know what we do

[next pine]

They don't

[woeful cliff]

Scream

[deft oak]

We actually speculate and test the game

They all use power sword and bolter

[next pine]

The blue head is a target to be executed as quickly as possible

[woeful cliff]

Yes.

[deft oak]

Oh no

[clear heath]

ogryns definitely don't know what we do
they still think they're the best class for revives

[ebon wigeon]

i was in the jail cell corridor before the usual assassination mission

[thorn lintel]

what is the name of this psyker helmt

[clear heath]

mf ogryns can't even block guns while reviving

[ebon wigeon]

we exited the elevator, but there were just two of us

[next pine]

It's the final penance one. Idk the name rn

[ebon wigeon]

a big hoard in front, zealot was meleeing while i was stunning

[lucid terrace]

The ogryn ate your teammates.

[thorn lintel]

i know it is final penance:P

wanted to know name

[next pine]

Ah

Srry

[thorn lintel]

ty

❤️

[next pine]

He's gotchu

[ebon wigeon]

he went down, saw i was still in the elevator (why would i poke out in front of the gunners) and left

cuz yeah, i need to quell my peril

im not doing that in the open

[woeful cliff]

Wait, does Kinetic Deflection protect you during revives?

[deft oak]

Yup

You have melee out

[next pine]

Nah bruv facetank that shotgunner while you do your breathing exercises.

[clear heath]

Weapons autoblock when reviving

[ebon wigeon]

breathe in, breathe out

ive just noticed a great many people like to stand in front of sniper fire

[clear heath]

Force sword deflector also still blocks bullets while reviving, while ogryn's shield doesn't for some reason

[deft oak]

Snipers hurt. Haven't you played call of duty?

Because Ogryn too smooth

[next pine]

It uses peril to block. Anything that you can block will be using peril before stamina

[ebon wigeon]

man i still need pick n mix

[woeful cliff]

I always assumed revive blocking to be its own thing.

[wet gust]

So, is anyone still playing Power Maul? x' D

[ebon wigeon]

i feel like it doesnt register

[deft oak]

pick n mix took me 3 days of lobby farming

[clear heath]

It's really funny watching an ogryn struggling to res someone because of gunners, and then this small as psyker walks up and is like "dw i got this"

[alpine portal]

according to imperium code 389374;573 sub section a ( testing shotgun funtionality)
Psykers are perfect way to test if a shotgun if functioning. it matters little if they are "on your side" or not

[next pine]

Fair point

[clear heath]

i still do whenever i play zealot
this is psyker chat tho

[woeful cliff]

Why would an ogryn struggle against that? He can rez even when taking damage

[clear heath]

They can die

[wet gust]

oh shit you're right x' D