psyker-class

[oblique jasper]

Purg into lacerate combat blade

[left basin]

it's called a separate effect. burleed

[oblique jasper]

I mean

Burn applies bleed

[shut thorn]

no it doesn't

[oblique jasper]

Rip

[wet jacinth]

wut

[oblique jasper]

They patched that

Was fun

[low tulip]

I'm assuming something like this maximizes crit right?

[bleak tulip]

under certain circumstances bleed applied bleed but thats only because of wacky blessings iirc

[orchid ice]

when there's a demonhost and your two psykers have the surge staff

[oblique jasper]

What does stacks 5 times mean

Like you can get 10% crit?

[shut thorn]

soulblaze has always been stacks * average damage * warp damage modifiers

[vagrant cedar]

yes

5 stacks of 2%

[wet jacinth]

I've joined many games where I have purgatus and theres 2 zealots with flamers

[bleak tulip]

higher ranks of nexus give you 4-5 per stack

[vagrant cedar]

stack = a buff
5 stacks = 5 buffs

[shut thorn]

the feat for increasing force dmg based on peril applies on each tick

[bleak tulip]

so yeah you can get crit with it

[clear heath]

How much peril is a stack?

[bleak tulip]

but it doesnt work well atm iirc

[left basin]

i've joined many games where i had 4 veterans and had fun

[bleak tulip]

iirc it was distributed across the lower half of peril actually, so its not spread evenly over the full 100%

[wet jacinth]

Imagine not juggling 60-90 peril 80% of the game

[bleak tulip]

or im thinking of something else

[clear heath]

Do you happen to know how much peril it took for max stacks then?

[shut thorn]

sry not rn

if I wasn't sick I'd find it rn

[bleak tulip]

I feel like I read it was under 100%

like 70 or 80 but I dont know if Im thinking of the wrong thing

[shut thorn]

speaking of which

gonna go pick up medicine

cya

[grave bobcat]

Take it with a grain of salt but I've read that its 80% at which you get max stacks cause its considered "ciritcal" then

But whether its true haven't checked

[clear heath]

hmm

I wish fatshark was more clear in the wording for blessings

[left basin]

does damage on purgatus affect burn damage

[bleak tulip]

not that I know of

[onyx sentinel]

some of these descriptions make 0 sense

what forest camo mf

[bleak tulip]

on the handle

[orchid nacelle]

blurn

[orchid nacelle]

you can't see it. it's camoflauged

[bleak tulip]

dont ask me what kind of forest that is because nightshade is blue and black but yknow

look at other nightshade skins

[jade geode]

Swap over or nah?

Blessings are better obv, but the stats are slightly worse and the perks... 🤢

[vivid schooner]

Not enough of a difference, I'd say wait a bit for an even better one.

[light quail]

keep the purple

[jade geode]

Was an Emperor's Gift, I've alerady got the orange. No need to buy 🙂

[jade geode]

That much better from the perks? I mean, it does turn hordes into soup but... really?

[vivid schooner]

if it's free, then either is fine, infested and unarmored aren't really hard for a voidstrike to punch through even when it's ehh

[jade geode]

Yeah I was thinking about rerolling on of them to flak

[light quail]

could try and upgrade the purple, see if it rolls something similar

[jade geode]

Yeah probably unarmored and flack is better, since most enemies are one of the two. But it was nice turning the normally-more-resilient poxwalkers to giblets XD

[light quail]

those perk rolls are surreally good on the trauma and voidstrike

[wet raven]

Transfer peril... On a void staff? Doesn't that just straight up delete the cost of casting in hoards XP?

[jade geode]

Basically, yeah XD

[light quail]

voidstrike already bowls through enemies
letting it do so better is a must have

[jade geode]

I'ts pretty broke

[jade geode]

Yeah, I feel like with the way the buffs work, being % bonuses, it's more effective to lean into the role and buff what it's already good at, than try to cover it's weaknesses, because the % buffs apply to an insignificant value.

[vivid schooner]

I tend to use voidstrike more as a gunner pile killer more than a pox horde thing.

[light quail]

minmaxxing is always fun

[vivid schooner]

Of course, both, but voidstrike for horde killing is usually a supplement rather than the priority.

there's usually sufficient melee power or a flamer to deal with the simple issue of poxwalkers.

[light quail]

I swear by trauma
thing is just a joy to use

[vivid schooner]

I can't use it. Can't aim it well.

[jade geode]

True, but I'm pug'ing, can't always trust the team to bring horde clear.
Sometimes I get a buncha axe or knife zealots, etc

[light quail]

pokes ranged and can blow holes in hordes or make a spawned unaware group disappear

[vivid schooner]

the further away something is, the more difficult I find using the trauma

especially if they're aware

[wet raven]

It needs a radius buff or damage fall off buff before I'd ever pick it up again, doesn't help inner tranquility is bugged otherwise using trama with it might be fun

[vivid schooner]

15 gunners just look at you and you have to charge in cover

[light quail]

tramua is a tough one but I played a ton of sienna so I got it down

[light quail]

trauma + inner tranquility will be meta when it gets fixed

[jade geode]

The only thing I find Trauma good for, is catapulting still-alive enemies behind the group so they can stand back up and backstab people that think the horde is controlled and funneled in front of them >~>

[wet raven]

Naw, void is just a flat upgrade on trama unfortunately

[light quail]

catapult them into you and just run them down with a combat ax

[jade geode]

THIS. It needs to not have such a laughable damage falloff, then it'd be fine.

[vivid schooner]

I imagine they consider it the balancing point for it having the cc it does.

[wet raven]

Better clears more reliable damage about the same aoe... Better crits... Oof

[jade geode]

From like 400 damage down to like 10 just a few inches away? C'mon -.-

[light quail]

it also has some good stagger on carapace, able to put ogryns (thus, just about anything) on their arse as opposed to staggering them like voidstrike

[jade geode]

That's fair, I've seen that come in handy a few times.
Still don't like the overall performance of it tho :/

[wet raven]

You just use bb for that though so why bother outside of it being a fun alternative?

[jade geode]

I suppose it's a bit faster

If, less damaging.

[light quail]

faster and hits a lot more

[wet raven]

The difference in peril build up is a big issue with it though

[left basin]

the fart stick is funky with the crits

dunno

[remote tusk]

It's fun to use when playing aggressively. Berserker with unlimited psychic grenades

[drowsy fog]

no one ever wants to kill a demonhost, I just wanna tank it 😦

[light quail]

every staff has a place
surge and trauma are your stagger machines
purgation & voidstrike are your horde sweepers
they all fit their roles, they just do em differently

[left basin]

oh and make bb give guaranteed stacks without killing

[vivid schooner]

seems fair.

It wouldn't really change much other than make bb slightly more appealing to use.

and stacks easier to maintain

[light quail]

do the bb hits from that one talent give warp charges?

might have a build idea if they do

[jade geode]

If they kill, yes

[left basin]

sometimes?

[jade geode]

I use that talent, and the 4% chance on kill, and I can maintain stacks without having to use BB.

[remote tusk]

1 warp charge every 15 sec of combat feels very good

[jade geode]

Especially if I take the Soulfire lvl 30 talent

and Purg staff

[left basin]

REMOVE STACKS AND MAKE THE BONUS THE BASELINE DAMAGE

[light quail]

then you pair it with the 4% coherency charges and that with the +2 max charges and you see where i'm going?

[left basin]

https://tenor.com/view/reee-skeleton-dancing-reeee-reeeee-gif-15250451

[jade geode]

Those are on the same tier

[light quail]

also with the 30% toughness

[remote tusk]

Kinda sad really that we have to build away from BB

[light quail]

aw bollocks

[vestal finch]

Taking Ascending Blaze is overspecializing into horde clear

[light quail]

couldn't remember the tree off the top of my head

[left basin]

not taking ascentding blaze means you're no longer soul fart mega guy

[jade geode]

Nah, you can light up gunner patrols with it

[light quail]

could take the bb one to quickly build your stacks back up on trash

[vivid schooner]

unless it's meant to synergize with battery or overload using purgatus.

I can't confirm the efficiency of it, but it is a thing some peeps here use.

[remote tusk]

I've used it and it felt allright, but not extremely strong

[vivid schooner]

at 4 stacks, on damnation, it's roughly around half a poxwalker's hp. at 6 stacks, they should just die.

if you bring it up to even a tiny bit more with the staff, most things should evaporate.

[vestal finch]

Purgatus is a short range horde clear weapon. Ascending Blaze is great for horde clear. See what I mean by overspecialization?

[vivid schooner]

purgatus is a short range anything-clear, it's not horde-specific.

It deletes everything that can take soulblaze dots in seconds with enough stacks. soulblaze isn't linear

[remote tusk]

Honestly I prefer BB ult on purg. It doesnt need help with poxwalkers, and the BB ult lets you keep your warp charges while giving you some more reliable long range abilities

[jade geode]

The one and ONLY think Purg is bad against, is Carapace. And that's on one single enemy.

[orchid nacelle]

three actually

[jade geode]

Nope. They're "Unyielding"

[orchid nacelle]

maulers and crushers

and rager variant

[jade geode]

Nope.

[orchid nacelle]

yes

[jade geode]

Maulers are Flak as far as the burn is concerned

[orchid nacelle]

they are carapace armoured

[vivid schooner]

I'm actually logged in as I wait for more people to grief on my vet, I can swap over and check

[orchid nacelle]

they have weakpoints though

where you can apply fire to them

crushers are totally covered

[jade geode]

okay. I'll go pop into the meat grinder.

[vivid schooner]

Are they? is the guide dated?

[jade geode]

And post the pic

[bleak tulip]

https://imgur.com/a/Selj5nI/layout/grid

just use this

[orchid nacelle]

^

[jade geode]

I'm not talking about hitzones!

[bleak tulip]

[jade geode]

Fragging hel

[bleak tulip]

there is also a spreadsheet in the pins

[jade geode]

Fine I'll ss it

[orchid nacelle]

maulers are carapace armoured and carapace damage boosts apply to them

they aren't totally covered though

crushers are totally covered and you can't ignite them

except with blaze

ascendant blaze

[jade geode]

Maulers count as Flak for the burn, so do the armored ragers. Bulwarks and Reapers are Unyeilding.

I literally just tested it

+Flak boosts damage

[orchid nacelle]

so does carapace damage boost

so

i guess they're both

[vivid schooner]

We're going a bit off-topic. To the point, purgatus isn't just a horde clear.

It can be treated as an all-rounder for anything in its range, aside from the mentioned.

[orchid nacelle]

purgatus is good at everything

[bleak tulip]

but it mostly is because killing anything other than horde takes a bunch of time

compared to other options

[vivid schooner]

it takes a second if you do the combo right

drop 15 stacks in 2 seconds

[grave bobcat]

purge is good at killing snipers? :d

[bleak tulip]

when there is ragers in the horde sure whatever

[vivid schooner]

I did say "in its range", cal.

[orchid nacelle]

no but you have brain burst for snipers

[vivid schooner]

You can't catch me what that.

[grave bobcat]

no no no

I read what you said

[orchid nacelle]

that's a rager

[grave bobcat]

backpedaling is illegal

[stone gate]

One of the primary reasons I use voidstrike more than purgatus is the range.

[vivid schooner]

I didn't backpedal, the msg isn't edited.

I got u

[orchid nacelle]

i was mistaken about the rager variant

[grave bobcat]

Peb did lo

[orchid nacelle]

they are flak yes

[jade geode]

You lose.

[vivid schooner]

Okay let's not make this about winning or losing

[light quail]

voidstrike is a good generalist staff
trauma is more focused on stagger with vs having the better dmg

[vivid schooner]

we're here to discuss the build usage

[jade geode]

Enemies have hitzones, yes. But certain things, like DoTs, apply to an armor "class"

[vivid schooner]

and we've confirmed purgatus is a good boi. Which I still don't use often because I go blind everytime

[jade geode]

It's wonky, but it's true.,

[orchid nacelle]

?????????

[remote tusk]

All staff discussion eventually devolve back into the "my stick best stick" civil war

[orchid nacelle]

they must upgrade to carapace above malice

[light quail]

💯

[jade geode]

Mauler is carapace everywhere except the chest, which is Flak.

[orchid nacelle]

right yes

that's what i said

[bleak tulip]

no... theyre not

[viscid cloak]

what is there to be confused about, the head is carapace, but everything else is flak

[dawn orchid]

Hmm, should I pick this up? I remember hearing burn and cloud radius were the most important for purgs. Not sure if the damage stat even affects the dot at all.

[jade geode]

And for whatever reason, DoTs count the armor as FLAK

As I just proved.

[stone gate]

https://tenor.com/view/shad-shadiversity-get-stick-get-stick-gif-21571330

[orchid nacelle]

thank you for literally reiterating what i just said

[bleak tulip]

maulers are flak

on all difficulties

only the head is cara

[viscid cloak]

im just stalking

[jade geode]

Go flame one with a flamer or purg, and you'll see it tick as FLAK no matter where you flame them.

[bleak tulip]

go hit it with a stick and check for the popup if you dont beleive it

[uncut hamlet]

Trauma best staff no cap

[vivid schooner]

y'all, don't make me become a vet main now

[uncut hamlet]

You wouldn't, they dont have trauma staves

[orchid nacelle]

this is a pointless argument we're literally just agreeing with eachother

[light quail]

i love trauma despite what people say about it
thing has some immense stagger and dmg if you catch them in the FU zone

[vivid schooner]

I'm actually already a zealot main anyway so the point was moot. :s

psyker is just the class with the most to debate about where their mechanics are applied.

[jade geode]

As I was saying, the only thing Purg sucks against is Crushers.

[uncut hamlet]

Honestly yea, I played around with it a bit and the cc is way higher than I expected. Enemies way beyond the epicenter still get thrown

[grave bobcat]

SOmeone told me purg was cgood at everything but im strugling killing snipers :(((((

[uncut hamlet]

Did a heresy on high intensity yesterday

[jade geode]

Because 90% of purg dmg comes from the DoT, and Carapace resists the fk out of DoTs :/

[remote tusk]

Kind of you to call it a debate

[vivid schooner]

Cal, go back to your closet.

[uncut hamlet]

50 minute game, was the hardest mission i've ever done

[stuck basalt]

is this bug? the damage modifier say 46/76, but top is 60/100

[light quail]

only problem is stuff launching behind the team
I keep a combat ax handy to catch anything that flies behind the front

[uncut hamlet]

last part was an ending horde of bursters, shotgunners, trappers, hounds, just everything

[uncut hamlet]

watching people blow up into bits is fun too

I think it should do more damage for the huge peril cost though

[jade geode]

So, my point stands, Purg isn't just an anti-horde weapon, it'll chew up and spit out anything at mid-close range.

[light quail]

always
trauma gibs are a riot

[uncut hamlet]

you can only do 2 max charges, even with good warp resistance

[bright river]

not a bug, it coutns for the First Target modifier

[onyx sentinel]

thing has 0 range though and you get shredded by shotgunners and patrols on 4+

would like to see someone use it well on damnation

[stuck basalt]

i see. thx

[dawn orchid]

Anyone?

[uncut hamlet]

The heresy game I played was harder than any damnation I've done

[light quail]

i remember my first time getting a trauma
used the lil explosion, saw the gibs, it was love at first sight

[vivid schooner]

I've seen one guy do it well on damnation, but I can't aim that thing for the life of me.

[orchid nacelle]

i'd say voidstrike is way more specialised for anti horde since it's a massive long ranged raking projectile that sucks against anything armoured

[uncut hamlet]

and we completed it

[tall elbow]

what is soulblaze doing to enemies

[uncut hamlet]

the range is surprisingly long too

[light quail]

I see them like sienna's staffs, namely Fireball and Conflagration

[uncut hamlet]

more than enough to knock over shotgunners

[stuck basalt]

dots/burn

[orchid nacelle]

fireball doesn't have the infinite pierce though

[light quail]

Fireball tears through stuff in a line
Conflagration blows stuff up in a cluster

[orchid nacelle]

and it's an arcing projectile

[onyx sentinel]

like I said I'd like to see

[orchid nacelle]

fireball is great at applying high damage burns

[uncut hamlet]

If I had it recorded I would send it

was the best mission I've had in my Darktide career so far

[jade geode]

It used to

[grave bobcat]

Do hig hint Dman

its so much fun

[tawny maple]

It's accounting for first target too I'm pretty sure

[vivid schooner]

I do want to debate the idea of just playing gun psyker instead of staff, at times.

[light quail]

gun psyker with the random bb on hit could work

[uncut hamlet]

I want deflector :(

[vivid schooner]

when I'm awake and on point, I can wipe gunner squads almost as efficiently as vets doing so and it feels a bit like I'm playing vet eitherway.

[stuck basalt]

yes,i just saw it

[stuck basalt]

wait for blessing reroll

[vivid schooner]

I want to know if deflector makes bomber grenades bounce off of it

would be neat

[grave bobcat]

I wanna say doubt

[vivid schooner]

Ditto, but please, fatshark, do us a favor, make it a thing.

[light quail]

could try headhunter autos after their buff

they have some nice dmg now

[vivid schooner]

there are some autogun vet mains because of how fast they can kill

[jade geode]

Just tested on Heresy, one full alt fire flame on the back of a bulwark kills it, with +20% Unyielding.

[vivid schooner]

but I prefer the efficiency of kantraels

or, an infernus recon, if I ever got one.

[light quail]

I flip between kantreals and autoguns

[vivid schooner]

I did get one on my vet today, but the stats were so bad I couldn't use it.

[uncut hamlet]

I've been saying purg is actually good for forever, but all those surge mains wont take it

[orchid nacelle]

how exactly does fs push/push attack work

[jade geode]

I got an infernus Helbore and a gift from Big-E, but it's useless. If you crit, you don't need the extra damage from the DoT lol

[orchid nacelle]

it feels like there's a deadzone between you and the actual push

[vivid schooner]

If we have to have this silly best staff argument, my vote is with voidstrike, just given the rolespread of the most common loadouts people use.

[jade geode]

I like surge too. IMO of all the staves, there's the biggest gulf between Surge and Purg, in terms of use and purpose.

[vivid schooner]

to cover the most possibilities, more so than because it's the best.

[jade geode]

Being able to fry enemy shooters, from a distance, through cover is friggin great.

[uncut hamlet]

They cover different roles for sure

[jade geode]

IMO Purg really only works if you pair it with a deflector sword.

[vivid schooner]

My issue with purgatus is actually not the staff itself, but that it shares a spot with the most popular zealot gun

[jade geode]

Fair.

[vivid schooner]

literally half of all zealots I see running around have a flamer

[uncut hamlet]

really? I thought they were dying out

I rarely see them anymoe

[vivid schooner]

I'm seeing more than usual.

[uncut hamlet]

I usually see lasgun/bolter now

[vivid schooner]

I'm a bolter zealot myself, but to that end, I rarely see others.

[jade geode]

However; counterpoint... sometimes you don't havea zealot, sometimes they don't have one, sometimes the zealot is dead, or cut off, or in a blind bloodfury hacking away at poxwalkers with a kitchen knife...

[vivid schooner]

If you don't have one and your team isn't all short-ranged, I would consider purgatus more, ye.

[shut thorn]

Late reply, no it affects the warpfire damage directly from purgatus

[uncut hamlet]

The majority of teams have vets since theyre the most popular, so you'll almost never be short range exclusive

[left basin]

does direct warpfire trigger ascendant

[vivid schooner]

Usually, yeah. Zealots, too, given knife zealot running around.

[jade geode]

Yup, which means that it bumps it's damage up by like.. a whopping 2 points -_-
Which is REALLY dumb imo. it's the epitome of a worthless staf :/

[shut thorn]

no

[vivid schooner]

and knife zealots suck ass at hording

so they bring flamers. which is my understanding of the situation

[orchid nacelle]

maybe i don't just "get" voidstrike staff

it feels awful to use against anything that isn't specifically a lot of enemies running at you in a singlefile line

[shut thorn]

horde clear/reaper stun

[vivid schooner]

I didn't either until I had one with 80% radius and dmg, but it's really neat for evaporating even small piles of gunners.

[uncut hamlet]

Ik a lotta people would disagree with me, but I find knife zealot to be terrible. It's really good at keeping you alive, and that's it. I could find arguments for it on psyker or vet cuz of that,but with how zealot is supposed to be melee dps I think it's soft trolling

[vivid schooner]

It won't outdo the vets, but you can flex between horde and gunners and bodies that aren't thick don't count as obstructions to a voidstrike

[jade geode]

Aim at their legs. you'll hit twice; once on the pass-through, again from the AoE of detonation when it hits the ground at their feet/behind them./

[vivid schooner]

I actually line up headshots. let's go

it's kind of cool to see them all just drop

[shut thorn]

the explosion also causes instant full suppression in a radius of 5m

[left basin]

this is shid

[shut thorn]

and causes aggro too

[left basin]

so uh

[orchid nacelle]

it doesn't seem to hit twice

[shut thorn]

so i your vet or someone is being murdered by gunners you can take aggro and switch to fs deflector

[orchid nacelle]

i've been testing that exact thing

aiming at the legs i mean

it only seems to hit once

[left basin]

what if you get peril > crit + sfire on crit on a surge

[vivid schooner]

to be fair, if a vet is struggling, he a bad vet.

[shut thorn]

make sure you aim low enough, the explosion's dmg radius is 3m

smaller than the vfx

[vivid schooner]

vet's range is their main bread and butter, but they also have every tool in the game to not die.

[orchid nacelle]

yeah i've been doing that

and it does less damage than just getting a headshot anyway

[uncut hamlet]

counterfire, camo or unwavering

[vivid schooner]

crowd control, easy toughness regen, camo, endless grenades.

[uncut hamlet]

200 base toughness

[vivid schooner]

and actual wallhax

[uncut hamlet]

yea

[vivid schooner]

also power sword.

[shut thorn]

they also have every tool*

[uncut hamlet]

Don't like power sword

I'd rather use a devil claw

[jade geode]

Huh, ya know what? you're right. Fug. I'd assumed it worked like the fireball staff from VT2 :/

[vivid schooner]

you may not like it, but that thing has monster cleaves and if a vet is good about it, it should never pop up, but when he needs to be quickk or defensive, he can turn tides.

[uncut hamlet]

I have a really nice MK V axe with momentum too

[vivid schooner]

people even sleep on camo because it makes him better at rezzing than ogryns

[uncut hamlet]

huge waveclear with single target damage

[orchid nacelle]

voidstrike is a bowling ball

[vivid schooner]

I only use tacaxe if I have to use axes.

the heavy axes give me a migraine

[cyan notch]

i dont think anybody sleeps on camo

[orchid nacelle]

i liken it to fucking Donnie Darkoing a gigantic iron sphere through a group of enemies

[vivid schooner]

Well nobody awake sleeps on camo, but I do think most vets who have it don't know it

[jade geode]

Yeah.
I mean, it also has the AoE at the end, but it seems you can't hit the same enemy with both the contact, and the AoE

[vivid schooner]

they never seem to consider rezzing as their prio

[jade geode]

My bad.

[vivid schooner]

hey, shaft.

[random wolf]

I'm usually pretty good with FPS camera shakes and movements not giving me headaches but the worst one IMHO is the Grenadier Gauntlet's melee.

[vivid schooner]

good thing you don't use t hat for melee if you can help it

I have been converted into the grenade gauntlet cult, but I must say, I miss the ripper.

anyway, I prob dont play gun psyker just cuz the whole point of having a psyker at the moment, for me, is just to have a staff.

[random wolf]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046914161923334214/1051849697591046205/image.png

Pretty much.

[vivid schooner]

tap stick on floor. haha funny.

damn that's brutal. I don't have rennding on mine

80 radius and 80 blast. woo.

[warped perch]

Good morning psyker siblings

[random wolf]

Morning

[vivid schooner]

No, beloved, he's just being polite.

[orchid nacelle]

the worst part about voidstrike is how it seems to stop whenever it hits any form of armour

that can be alleviated by aiming for headshots but it still hurts

[random wolf]

Which is true but 10% chance to auto headpop and a Recon Lasgun is fun regardless.

[warped perch]

Idk I like voidstrike the best tbh

[orchid nacelle]

i wish it just had infinite piercing

[shut thorn]

yet again, voidstrike is ranged horde clear and mid stagger stick

it is not ur elite killer

[orchid nacelle]

yes i understand that fact

[warped perch]

I use force sword for elites

Or brain burst

[orchid nacelle]

but there are melee trash mobs with flak armour

[vivid schooner]

for big armor bois, you leave it to the ogryn and zealot.

[orchid nacelle]

and it stops dead on those guys

[vivid schooner]

and vet, depending on if they have infernus recon godroll and get to cheat

[random wolf]

Nah I rush in with Force Sword

[warped perch]

I love the 30 tier talent that makes your brain burst fast

[vivid schooner]

lmao

[warped perch]

Feat*

[vivid schooner]

I used to use it, prior to learning that anything that dies with soulblaze on it counts to the 10% for ascendant

[orchid nacelle]

i don't get the point of staggering enemies with my ranged weapons when i have another staff that can stagger AND kill things

[random wolf]

I only used that feat because I didn't like my stacks being removed once.

But then it became my reliable default.

[warped perch]

I’m really trying to like the purg staff but idk

[bleak tulip]

tbh I just use BB on bulwarks to open them up for everyone, thats why you take kinetic barrage

[vivid schooner]

I don't like purg staff, I am a voidstrike user, too.

[shut thorn]

@orchid nacelle the loadout you're trying to get out of voidstrike is actually purgatus and combat blade

[vivid schooner]

voidstrike running ascendant blaze.

🤷‍♂️

[warped perch]

Hmmm

[shut thorn]

you can slide with combat blade to negate the range disadvantage

[raw breach]

ngl, i'm getting kind of bored of mat farming to upgrade greens and hope to roll the right blessings when i have 4 items in my inventory that would be fine if I could just reroll one of the blessings.

[orchid nacelle]

yeah i'm trying to like the voidstrike staff

i run purgatus normally

[uncut hamlet]

You'll be able to

[vivid schooner]

I mean, yes, that would be a bit repetitive.

[warped perch]

I feel like with the bb speed talent I can mow down a bunch of specials

[uncut hamlet]

well not reroll

[shut thorn]

diff use, voidstrike is for bailing the inevitable vet straggler or for staggering the surprise 5x gunner / reapers

[uncut hamlet]

but take blessings from other items

[random wolf]

Tap r to quell cancel after every shot.

It helps.

[raw breach]

I'm thinking of just quitting until they finish adding in the rest of the crafting system. i've done jus tabout everything else these is to do

[uncut hamlet]

and slap it onto yours

[vivid schooner]

I do weeklies, then login every few hours or so to see if a mission I want is up, if not, log out.

going for the 100% accuracy vet penance now. it seems easy but I do feel like a jackass for trying it at all.

[random wolf]

On all 4 characters?

[warped perch]

I just have fun playing

[shut thorn]

also void feels a lot worse if you don't use cancels

[uncut hamlet]

Just use plasma

[raw breach]

Yep

[orchid nacelle]

how does it do that exactly

[uncut hamlet]

you're not supposed to shoot everything that moves with plasma anyway

[vivid schooner]

Am doing so and have almost done it twice. Got cucked by teammates both times.

[uncut hamlet]

rip

[shut thorn]

the ball has infinite range and it staggers everything except a mutant and bulwark

[vivid schooner]

One time the dude pushed a horde out of my shot and then the other, he walked into me

and I shot his back

[orchid nacelle]

so does brain burst

[uncut hamlet]

thats really unfortunate

[shut thorn]

bulwark can be staggered by it if the shield gets out of way

[orchid nacelle]

and brain burst will actually kill those things more reliably

[vivid schooner]

It seems easy enough, I just need to be patient.

[shut thorn]

brainburst takes a lot longer and you can't keep it constant

[orchid nacelle]

you can though

[shut thorn]

it's clear to me now that you're not understanding how to use void

[vivid schooner]

Sooner or later, I will clear the 30-ish shots off plasma and then melee my way through.

[shut thorn]

you dont full charge void for stagger

[uncut hamlet]

It's not difficult, just very infuriating

[shut thorn]

you rapid fire rmb w/ cancel for stagger

[orchid nacelle]

i've been doing that yes

[vivid schooner]

Can you still cancel void? I know they removed the sprint cancel from surge, so now it's only swap cancel.

[shut thorn]

proof please, I don't see brainburst dealing with a surprise 5x gunner scenario where your teammates are in a bad spot

[orchid nacelle]

it is funny to chuck an orb at a reaper and watch him flop over like a sack of bricks

[raw breach]

Which makes it even worse to try to farm mats for an incomplete crafting system where rerolling blessing would be 100x cheaper than the amount of mats I'm currently wasting to upgrade items over and over. But even still I have 450+ orange weapons for all 4 classes

[orchid nacelle]

but it doesn't feel practical

[random wolf]

Quell cancel should still be a thing

[shut thorn]

yes, void cancelling is required tbh

the recovery frames should be removed

imo

[vivid schooner]

I'm done with weeklies for now, so I'll wait til next week to test

[random wolf]

Yeah not gonna lie it gets tiring to scroll past a library of fodder weapons

[shut thorn]

It's practical when you can chuck minimum charge balls to effectively stunlock several specials at the same time

[random wolf]

Waiting to see if they finally get used for blessing crafting or if they wanna introduce deconstruction.

[shut thorn]

and when you can pretty much delete a horde, regardless of where you are

[shut thorn]

code seems to indicate that when you extract a blessing

you can only choose one

and it destroys the wep

in the process

[vivid schooner]

I should do what the pugs I see are doing and make sum macros for the void cancel

[random wolf]

Which is fine

[vivid schooner]

save some keypresses

[random wolf]

Still don't have goddamn Power Cycler for Power Sword

[shut thorn]

pointless, the speed of the cancel is determined by charge rate and your ping

[random wolf]

That's my one last blessing

[vivid schooner]

Then it's time to have multiple

I actually do already have different macros for each weapon I'm too lazy to time the combo of

:s

[shut thorn]

if u wanna utilize a cancel macro

use it for lmb

[vivid schooner]

I'll experiment, see how it goes.

[uncut hamlet]

Lol imagine if the damage stat matched the others

[orchid nacelle]

maybe i simply need more practice with the voidstrike staff

[raw breach]

and so many of them are 1 blessing from being perfect, but without the ability to reroll blessing yet, it's worthless.

[orchid nacelle]

but idk abusing quell tech doesn't feel intended

[shut thorn]

lmb bolt travels faster and does more dmg than an uncharged ball, but an uncharged ball still does aoe dmg but most importantly aoe stagger

[orchid nacelle]

don't forget it does more damage to armour than the lmb

[shut thorn]

carapace, but yes

[orchid nacelle]

it does add up fast

i will tout the virtue of the voidstrike staff

[shut thorn]

it shouldn't need to be a thing in the irst place

first*

[orchid nacelle]

it is extremely fucking fun to use

[shut thorn]

its like the vt2 bolt staff stuff all over again

remove the recovery frames, make lmb automatic fire

[orchid nacelle]

i bet they're just going to add a bolt staff standin

[warped perch]

I wasn’t sure but yesterday I became a true voidstrike convert

[orchid nacelle]

quell tech feels bad to use AND borderline broken

[vivid schooner]

I'm still on the fence about this entire class in general

but voidstrike it be

It's missing the feeling of completion I get when I play the other three.

[shut thorn]

how does it feel knowing that using quell tech and the most optimal build, voidstrike still does less than a bolter

lol

[orchid nacelle]

xdddd

[shut thorn]

same goes for purg vs flamer

[orchid nacelle]

i mean that's normal

i expected that

[shut thorn]

surge vs plasma

[orchid nacelle]

the tradeoff is that it has infinite ammo

[vivid schooner]

why is plasma the comparison for surge

[shut thorn]

pre nerf surge dmg

for first target

[vivid schooner]

the 1k procs on like

1 target

lol

[shut thorn]

plasma gun fyi

is a staff

in disguise

[vivid schooner]

it's voidstrike but actual pain

[vivid schooner]

ah

of course

the true way to do bang

[shut thorn]

vet has

[vivid schooner]

Everything.

[shut thorn]

every equivalent weapon

its annoying

[vivid schooner]

And more.

[bleak tulip]

wouldnt be surprised if that also did more damage than perils of the warp

[shut thorn]

and they might get 2h power sword

hopefully zealot gets it instead

[vivid schooner]

Vet is every class rolled into one and it's better or even at all the jobs except one.

[orchid nacelle]

purgatus is like a flamer, but slightly worse
voidstrike is like plasma gun, but really really worse. or a bolter but only slightly less worse
surge is basically a tazer that doesn't have a direct comparison
and trauma is like a really really bad but infinite grenade

[vivid schooner]

they have no dash unless they run knife

also I guess they're not that great at hording compared to flamer/purgatus

but like, hording is the meme job

[shut thorn]

why would they need it when they have camo

lol

[vivid schooner]

because it changes how they can use powersword easily

the reason idc about powersword being so strong is that vets, ideally, do not want to draw it.

it's a backup weapon for them

[orchid nacelle]

but it makes sense for a class that's essentially an all-round flex utility class meant to cover the gaps

[shut thorn]

yeah they don't realize how busted it is

[vivid schooner]

well, they do, but like, they kill faster by shooting and horde-handling is slow because they can't dash from group to group.

and they kill the most important threat at higher diff, gunners.

GUNNERS EVERYWHERE

[shut thorn]

keep in mind, the current archetype specialization for psyker we have rn is the hybrid one

[warped perch]

I like the cc from surge but it’s so boring imo

[orchid nacelle]

yeah

i'm excited to play wyrdvane

[vivid schooner]

If they made surge damage at least more reasonably interesting, I'd use it.

[orchid nacelle]

i always prefer playing support/cc

[bleak tulip]

how tf is void like plasma

lmao

[shut thorn]

probably wont be release name btw

[orchid nacelle]

i said

a "really really worse"

plasma gun

[warped perch]

The sounds void makes and making hordes go boom is so much fun

[vivid schooner]

ball punch through thingy

[bleak tulip]

its not even the same functionality though

and void can be used nigh infinitely

[shut thorn]

psyker_3 is currently called protectorate in lua files, wyrdvane in dev comments for cosmetics

[orchid nacelle]

left click uncharged projectile right click charge piercing projectile

[vivid schooner]

the comparison isn't to call them the same

[orchid nacelle]

it's the closest analogue

[bleak tulip]

the comparison is to say theyre comparable and I dont think they are

[vivid schooner]

but yes, sure, technically the plasma isn't used for hordes because you'd run out of ammo yesterday

[shut thorn]

A better example is vet actually

veteran_2 is "veteran_ranged" in lua files, grunt in dev comments and sharpshooter ingame

[orchid nacelle]

plasma can fire down a hallway with a full charge shot and obliterate everything like a voidstrike

[bleak tulip]

like three times

[orchid nacelle]

the difference is that plasma shot will then continue to travel through the level and fuck everything in its path

[bleak tulip]

as you mentioned

[orchid nacelle]

ye

[bleak tulip]

which means its not how its used

[vivid schooner]

It's similar in how it works, but used for different things.

[bleak tulip]

because thats idiotic

[vivid schooner]

alright chill

[orchid nacelle]

precisely

[vivid schooner]

it's just a funny comparison, we're getting too deep.

[orchid nacelle]

see you understand me

[shut thorn]

closest thing psyker has to plasma is pre nerf lightning, thats abt it

damage profile is same

damage type is same

[vivid schooner]

lol

[warped perch]

Wyrvane Psykers are gonna be a thing?

[shut thorn]

probably not the release name

but yes

some kind of telekine

[orchid nacelle]

telekine sounds more apt

[warped perch]

So if new archetypes come out do you’ll have to make a new character I’m guessing?

[orchid nacelle]

since it literally is telekine dome

[shut thorn]

i hope not

because the way the system works rn is

breed->archetype->specialization

so we are currently

human->psyker->psykinetic

[warped perch]

Oh for some reason I thought Psykinetic was the archetype

[shut thorn]

no psyker is

psykinetic is the specialization

[whole wharf]

Interesting 🤔

[bleak tulip]

I mean look at the channel name

class - archetype

[warped perch]

Yeah I mixed the two up

[shut thorn]

good point

[warped perch]

I’m dumb

[shut thorn]

oh no......

guys we're gonna be separated

[orchid nacelle]

craftworld aeldari psyker dlc

[shut thorn]

😭

wtf

[warped perch]

No we stay together no matter what 🥺

[whole wharf]

No matter where we are, just know we will always be in each other's thoughts.

[warped perch]

Doubt they’d add xenos 👀

[warped perch]

I see what you did there

[shut thorn]

I'm calling it now, this will be the one that will keep both saying it's best and worst at same time, gunslinger/biomancer/whatever will be edgy and constantly saying how their dps is amazing, protectorate/wyrdvane/whatever will either be incredibly chill or toxic (ogryn chat)

[orchid nacelle]

i'm uploading a zip bomb into the astropathic network

[warped perch]

Bio Egypt is sexy

Biomancer* wtf

[whole wharf]

Hee hee, I did a funny.

[random wolf]

It's a team oriented Psyker

[mild canopy]

Whats the new psyker class called?

[random wolf]

I propose the name; Bromancer

[vivid schooner]

To be sensible, whenever more specs come up, they'd probably just rename this the general psyker channel.

[orchid nacelle]

i literally predicted telekine dome in the october closed beta

[shut thorn]

biomancer is NOT team oriented lmao

[vivid schooner]

Splitting it seems immeasurably tedious and unnecessary for conversation.

[shut thorn]

but i guess ur talking abt

wyrdvane

[random wolf]

They mance the bro levels among the team.

[random wolf]

I said Bromancer

[orchid nacelle]

apparently psykinetic is meant to be biomancer while biomancer is actually gunslinger

[shut thorn]

yes

its same for

zealot preacher

current preacher is maniac

but the preacher book buff thing

is for banisher

[orchid nacelle]

so since biomancer is the most support-oriented psyker in TT

naturally it's the glass cannon dps spec in darktide

[random wolf]

When are we getting the secret Preacher subclass from Age of Empires?

[shut thorn]

u mean banisher

[orchid nacelle]

wololo

[warped perch]

Omg bromancer. Imagine the psyker always flirting with vet and vet getting annoyed

[shut thorn]

banisher is all abt buffs and healing corruption

[orchid nacelle]

https://tenor.com/bCYlW.gif

Neck Romancer

[warped perch]

“Be quiet witch” secretly flushes uwu

[shut thorn]

also obviously vet cant feel left out

[warped perch]

Idk why I wrote that

[shut thorn]

so it gets a sqleader/drill sgt/whatever that gives buffs

and a shocktrooper that deletes elites

[warped perch]

Delites

[orchid nacelle]

i bet squad leader is going to be witch hunter captain from vt2

[random wolf]

"You told me to be louder last night, though?"

[warped perch]

😂

[shut thorn]

probably, it uses shouting to buff

[uncut hamlet]

FINALLY

THE FIRST DEFLECTOR IVE SEEN

[orchid nacelle]

ALL UNITS! STAND AND DELIVER!

[cyan notch]

lol

[shut thorn]

THE DAMAGE

[uncut hamlet]

SINCE FIRST WEEK OF BETA

[uncut hamlet]

I KNOW

[raw breach]

Which one is about being a ninja and using throwing knives? that sounds like a super interesting psyker weapon.... /sarcasm

[shut thorn]

congratz

[uncut hamlet]

BUT IM KEEPING IT TO EAT ITS BLESSING

[mild canopy]

Did they say what the new psyker class will be called?

[cyan notch]

nobody said anything about any new class

[shut thorn]

not a ninja, it's a biomancer. basically uses throwing knives as weapons

that

home in

on targets

[warped perch]

I got an over 400 voidstrike staff from the emprah last night and the damage was 30%

[shut thorn]

the ones in lore that can do that can go up against blanks

they can't directly fuck with blanks but they can fuck with nearby objects

aka knives in this case

[raw breach]

So you're telling me Diego from Umbrella Academy is a Biomancer?

[shut thorn]

haven't watched that, but if they have throwing knives that home in, probably

[cyan notch]

jett

[shut thorn]

also biomancer's like ult

[uncut hamlet]

Which of these would yall remove in favor of deflector

[warped perch]

Umbrella academy has always sounded like a kitschy beachfront souvenir shop to me

[shut thorn]

tags targets around the biomancer

[raw breach]

He can control where they go with his mind

[shut thorn]

dataminers suspect

its like

the sexual harrassment cowboy

from that blizz game

[warped perch]

What

[cyan notch]

anything can change

[orchid nacelle]

speak of the devil

[cyan notch]

these kind of ability games nothing is set in stone

[orchid nacelle]

talking about change?

[shut thorn]

aside from the thousands of lines of code

........

[orchid nacelle]

sounds awful TZEENTCHY of you

[cyan notch]

yes

[orchid nacelle]

rather HERETICAL even

[shut thorn]

just so you know

the knives are fully functional

[orchid nacelle]

[shut thorn]

they are useable

their workflow state is "releasable"

same goes for a lot of other stuff

[uncut hamlet]

knives?

What knives

[cyan notch]

happens a lot even in apex a leaker got so many new characters leaked with fully functional abilities and when it got released turns out its totally different

[orchid nacelle]

psyker's Devil Daggers homing knives

[uncut hamlet]

new subclass being datamined?

[orchid nacelle]

yea

[uncut hamlet]

pog

[shut thorn]

you're talking about a company with thousands of employees vs one with just shy of 200

[orchid nacelle]

is this a good voidy

just dropped

[uncut hamlet]

I'd say so yea

swap that sprint for smth else

and you're good to go

[cyan notch]

i just dont believe anything is set in stone

[shut thorn]

red from malleus made me think it was a melk scam at a glance

[cyan notch]

no point speculating on speculation

[orchid nacelle]

lmao nah gift from emps

[shut thorn]

wow I guess fatshark should redo the like 20 cosmetics

[raw breach]

replace TB with Quell Peril blessing when they release crafting and it'll be perfect

[uncut hamlet]

The emp is generous indeed

[uncut hamlet]

TB pretty good on void though no?

[orchid nacelle]

quell is better for quell tech

[warped perch]

Wow nice

[uncut hamlet]

I was gonna sya to replace nexus

Also, since we're on the topic of game development

[raw breach]

I don't like TB much. Suppression is so buggy and inconsistent

[shut thorn]

quell on weakspot peril is used to launch balls forever into a horde

[uncut hamlet]

can you imagine how unfortunate it is to be a fatshark dev rn

[cyan notch]

ill believe it when its released like i said speculating on speculation is a waste of time

[shut thorn]

lol idc

[uncut hamlet]

you work your ass off to make a beautiful game, only for probably management to push unrealistic promises and a cash shop so everyone hates you for it

[cyan notch]

same

[shut thorn]

its p obv it's gonna be released

[cyan notch]

sure if thats what u think

[warped perch]

I know I'm in the minority but I'm kinda whatever about the timeline. When it happens it happens. I'm just enjoying playing atm

[shut thorn]

It's what every dataminer 'thinks'

[cyan notch]

doesnt make it hold any more or less weight in my eyes

[shut thorn]

ok?

[cyan notch]

yes

[bleak tulip]

its fine instead of speculating we'll go back to complaining about BB being shit

no more fun

[cyan notch]

bb is pretty good

[uncut hamlet]

btw

[warped perch]

They need to invent a bb gun

See what I did there

Why am I so funny

[uncut hamlet]

Have fs said anything about whether or not they plan to allow upgrading of base stats at all

[bleak tulip]

its not in any of the official crafting info at least

[uncut hamlet]

rip

[bleak tulip]

and there is nothing in the files as far as anyone found

[tacit cargo]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1053823148048527440/1055464787460501684/20221222133442_1.jpg Melk just gave me something nice to go along with the surge staff

[cyan notch]

thats probably a dlc feature way in the future if anything

[tacit cargo]

whats your guys favoured melee weapon rn?

[formal sedge]

Anyone down to play for a bit ?

[uncut hamlet]

Either force sword or MK V axe

MK V with brutal momentum feels really good

[shut thorn]

not in datamine

[tacit cargo]

i have heard that about several of the axes

brutal momentum seems to be pretty strong rn

[orchid nest]

went back to fs taking a break from antax since I got slaughterer on the fs. would really like to try a bloodthirsty one but have never even seen the blessing myself

[shut thorn]

granted most o the crafting is something we can't access, the code is on their item server

we only get glimpses p much

however on our end there isn't a single thing to request item server to upgrade base stats

and honestly people don't feel like messing much with the item server since the wrong input can brick your account

[tacit cargo]

thats the one im using rn for force sword, blazing spirit is okay i guess, executor you dont feel much from sadly

i hope we get to reroll blessings

[shut thorn]

no you get to strip them from a weapon, destroying the wep in the process

then you can fuse blessings to upgrade them

and you can replace a blessing with one youve stripped

[tacit cargo]

that would work for me, i sitll got one with deflector lying around

[leaden dune]

Psykinetics Wrath or Inner Tranq as level 10 feat?

i kinda like both

[tacit cargo]

inner tranquility is king

[leaden dune]

the damage based on peril one or the peril resist one

in other words

[random wolf]

Damage based on Peril for me

[tacit cargo]

with 6 warp charges you can cast so much

it outweighs the 15% dmg buff

[warped perch]

That's a sexy looking sword

[leaden dune]

i'm doing the funny purgatus staff build

[sour olive]

I really hate danktide's rng

[random wolf]

Yeh assuming you can run and maintain 6 stacks do that instead.

[tacit cargo]

thanks ^^

[warped perch]

Is that a skin?

[sour olive]

keeps giving me guns&shit I wont use

crafting when

[random wolf]

From the latest 2400 pack yes

[warped perch]

Noice

[orchid nest]

depends on what you are doing. there is a sweet spot for peril generation with quietitude. kind of annoying taking a long time to generate peril for it when you want it.

[shut thorn]

theres a way to get high peril fast

w/ fs

[tacit cargo]

from what we know rn force sword cant get bloodthirsty, idk if you were talking about the axe tho

[shut thorn]

it can

[orchid nest]

yeah but I don't want to qq cancel every time I want peril, I want it to just flow better

[rose gazelle]

activate special and switch weapons then back

[shut thorn]

how many times do we have to do this old man

[cyan notch]

darktide crafting isnt actually crafting a weapon from scratch its just rerolling stuff u get

[rose gazelle]

i do that technique for my shock trooper build

[orchid nest]

people were posting screenshots here, just extremely rare since it appears it can only spawn as a tier 4 blessing

[tacit cargo]

if you're playing purgatus, psychic communion and ascendant blaze its really easy to keep up 6

[tacit cargo]

i take back everything i said

[rose gazelle]

100%?!

[tacit cargo]

idk whose that is but i want it xD

[rose gazelle]

I never seen that blessing before god DAMN

[shut thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/vermintide-zealot-waiting-gif-25557244

[tacit cargo]

thats a nutty sword

[shut thorn]

yes if u dome a poxwalker w it u get 100% crit for 5 sec

[brisk panther]

got this yday. kinda like it

[shut thorn]

works w qq click

[tacit cargo]

its looking really goood

[leaden dune]

whats the level 20 feat? they all seem pretty meh to me

[cyan notch]

wow u got 20% block without rerolling

[shut thorn]

basically imagine if each of these were 500+

[tacit cargo]

modifiers could be higher but the blessings are strong

[brisk panther]

and deflector 😄

[cyan notch]

first target kinda eh but still pretty good

[brisk panther]

took me 320h to find this one

[shut thorn]

abt same for deflector

pain

[rose gazelle]

5 seconds of 100% crit is beautiful. Are you gonna swap out the defense blessing eventually when it comes out?

[tacit cargo]

i got 2 deflector swords in 60h xD

[shut thorn]

not mine

I don't have that guy's luck

[steel flame]

I'm still using one with a 30% damage roll in damnantion

[shut thorn]

sadly

[tacit cargo]

but they were both shit sadly

[rose gazelle]

Ahh

[cyan notch]

bruh

[shut thorn]

also why would you swap out deflector

deflector bloodthirsty is BIS

[rose gazelle]

I never used that blessing before, i'm not sure if it's effective hahaha

[steel flame]

Its amazing at stopping chip

[rose gazelle]

i saw some people the other day saying it wasn't good

[shut thorn]

deflector bloodthirsty > deflector slaughterer > deflector blazing > deflector executor

[orchid nest]

gotta keep an eye on them chainswords too so you can rip the blessing out

[steel flame]

Those people are clearly heretics

[tacit cargo]

kinetic deflect is super strong

[floral solstice]

just played a game with 3 purgatus and a flamer zealot, guess im blind now

[shut thorn]

who here genuinely said deflector is bad

[cyan notch]

my chainswords are always mid greens or blues

[shut thorn]

it must be a troll

[cyan notch]

swear ive never seen a chainsword above 330

[orchid nest]

yeah since they have been tinkering with it, it seems like it's really hard/impossible to even see any tier 4 blessings in the armoury shop now so you would most likely only see it on melk naturally or upgrading

[cyan notch]

and emperor's gift cap is really stupid basically nothing u can do to get more weapons after hitting cap except to camp shop

riveting gameplay

[rose gazelle]

gameplay is gamemplay. what do you do after you min/max? play the game realizing there's no point in grinding anymore?

gotta enjoy what you're doing now

[tacit cargo]

whats BIS on purgatus?

[cyan notch]

try out new weapons

but theres no point doing missions cuz they dont give u shit

u just have to sit at the shop

[steel flame]

I miss having a full crafting station, getting weapons boxes after every single mission, getting boxes from leveling up. Being able to experiment with weapons by just fuckin crafting what I want. Everything in darktide besides the gameplay feels shady and unfun af

[vagrant cedar]

CasinoTide

[leaden dune]

its not like its that important to min max anyway lol

you can do just fine on damnation regardless

[stuck basalt]

the max stat gear not yet come, no point to minmaxing now xD

[steel flame]

I don't wanna feel like I need to log in every hour to be disappointed by a shit store. I wanna log on and play the game and not feel like I missed out on something by doing other shit

Sorry I'm venting

[fresh reef]

man

[orchid nest]

I think most people just want the upgrade path to exist rather than fixating on something perfect. Rip a blessing off, put it on your new one, find an upgrade, sacrifice your old one, etc.

[high anchor]

what is this weapon skin?

[steel flame]

The red one from the weapon store right

[orchid nacelle]

place your bets bros

anything except defl

[steel flame]

90% it's not a deflector

[orchid nacelle]

OMG

OMFG

OMMGMGMGGGMGG

[leaden dune]

is the force sword actually good? always felt meh to me

I guess being able to quell regardless of weapon is handy

[orchid nacelle]

HJOLY FUCKING SHIT

NO FUCKING WAY

[steel flame]

Whoooooooo

[orchid nacelle]

CAMPING THE SHOP FOR THREE WEEKS STRAIGHT AND NO DEFLECT BUT THIS ONE RANDOM SWORD RANDOMLY DECIDES TO ROLL IT????

[steel flame]

Lol

[orchid nacelle]

i'm going to cry

tears of joy and anguish

[orchid nacelle]

it's great if you get deflector

use peril blocking

boom, immune to ranged damage

[steel flame]

Its special straight up deletes elites and specials. Basically melee bb. Its got a push attack that staggers anything and it gets the deflector blessing to let you complete your space wizard cosplay

[coarse ether]

i love this combo

[wet gust]

How

[spice oar]

fr

[steel flame]

Best at supporting mobbing secondary, whip it out to melt specials and block ranged

[orchid nacelle]

deflector FS lets you run up on a gunner in safety

[drowsy fog]

Walk up anyway

[orchid nacelle]

but now without chip damage

[warm flint]

So I am in the meat grinder messing around. When using the MkV dueling sword, what is the point of the special attack, direct thrust?

[orchid nacelle]

combo with heavy attack

[leaden dune]

big damage

[vale terrace]

Does psyker get a peril resist stat on curios?

[warm flint]

oh ok, let me try

[leaden dune]

no

[vale terrace]

fuck

[leaden dune]

think curios are the same for every class

[vale terrace]

I should stop hitting this curio then

[leaden dune]

I could be wrong though

[vale terrace]

What am i looking for on a curio

[leaden dune]

but i've never seen class specific traits on curios

[wet raven]

sick play

[leaden dune]

uhhh I think Toughness or wounds?

is what's usually desired

[vale terrace]

sub-stat

main is 21 hp

[vagrant cedar]

depends on your gameplay but:

[orchid nest]

would be cool if they replaced xp and curio chance and stuff with some class specific ones

[warm flint]

I'm not seeing it, the numbers say it's better to heavy attack and then light attackj

[grave bobcat]

gross max hp

[warm flint]

the direct thrust seems to a set amount of damage with not range

[leaden dune]

i kinda like +wounds, getting another down or two on damnation can be very handy

in case things go south

[brisk panther]

+1, im using the same

[vale terrace]

Was gonna go for wounds but this is a 21hp, have to use it

wounds can go in another slot

[brisk panther]

id rather not build for going down

[vagrant cedar]

i think it's one the best combos you can do for psyker

[vale terrace]

Yeah but any corruption and Im fucked

You dont go down if you dont have at least 1 and someone grabs a grim

[vagrant cedar]

doesn't matter if you can't get hit 😏

[vale terrace]

or i get spewed on

[leaden dune]

I think wounds is one of the best things you can get form curious

"just don't get downed lol" is not a great argument lol

and yeah, corruption is another factor

[vagrant cedar]

i'm jelous of the 4* ones

[brisk panther]

if you go down in damnation you are usually dead

[vale terrace]

this is it rn, not keeping sniper

[brisk panther]

rather have hp to stay alive

[vagrant cedar]

damn, stacking 3 resistances

[vale terrace]

I forgot what the third option was first, but it had to go

[vagrant cedar]

hopefully they finish blessing this year

[vale terrace]

doubt

[orchid nest]

prob xp

[vagrant cedar]

damnation will be much easier

GamblingTide -> PlayTide

[stuck basalt]

already on vacation, nobody work on patch this year

[orchid nest]

speaking of xp, they should have added the prestige thing from v2

[grave bobcat]

gamba ❤️

[vale terrace]

damn, level 4 perks are rare

got it down to 0 cost, only gotten like 2 after something minutes

Ill take it

[grave bobcat]

jkust get the 5%+ max hp

since you are stakcing it

[halcyon creek]

Hot take: when it becomes free, there should simply be a drop-down menu for you to just choose the one you want.

[vale terrace]

I don't really wanna click for another hour

just to try and get +5% hp

[grave bobcat]

Doesn't take THAT long lol

[vale terrace]

It can though

[halcyon creek]

Goddamn engagement-time inflation

[vale terrace]

it's completely random

It's possible i never ever get it

[vagrant cedar]

does it work on grims tho

[stuck basalt]

they will add cooldown when it is free, you only can roll 3 times per day after free

[vale terrace]

Dunno

There's corrupt and corrupt (grimoires)

so I doubt one works with the other

which is fuckin dumb but whatever

[grave bobcat]

WIt hthat logic you might just get it next roll lmao

but u do u

[steel flame]

So I'm continuing my rampant speculation that instead of vermintide where all base game content was upfront and you could get good weapons quick without too much effort, do they had to actually make more content for the game to stay relevant. They throttle progression really hard to stretch out playtime in an incomplete game, promising more content ***IN THE FUTURE.......MAYBE WE PROMISE" then make sure the cash shop is fully ready. Man that feels familiar there days

[orchid nest]

I know the grim corrupt one is currently not very good but I'm not sure how the regular one works

[grave bobcat]

took me 5 mins to max all my curios

[vale terrace]

With your logic I should go stick some money in the pokies cause Im bound to win

[vagrant cedar]

yup, prolonging game's longetivity by 5x

release 0.5x of the game

[grave bobcat]

You're not risking anything since you alread yhit free

[vagrant cedar]

"NEW CONTENT PATCH"

[vale terrace]

Waste my time tho

[vagrant cedar]

more like you're CATCHING UP PATCH

[grave bobcat]

🤷

[stuck basalt]

you mean new skin patch

[steel flame]

THEIR ENTIRE DUCKING MISSION BOARD IS BUILT TO TRY AND HIDE THE FACT THE GAME ONLY HAS 6 GODDAM MISSIONS

Zazy woke up and chose violence today. I apologize

[vagrant cedar]

more like 3 maps, with each map 3 different "paths"

VT1 had like what, 10 maps?

[steel flame]

13

On 13 different maps

[vagrant cedar]

why do the further the games go, the crappier they are

sad dai

[steel flame]

Vt2 had 13, I dunno about 1

[stone gate]

Didn't vermintide 2 have some 13 maps too ?

[vale terrace]

3 chapters with 4 each and then skittergate I think

[cyan notch]

yes 13 for the main campaign

darktide also has 13 missions