#psyker-class

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bleak tulip
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also, you can thin the horde very easily without a door, they still run in a straight line at you and there is plenty of jumpovers and slight tight passes where you can line em up if you try

long wharf
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sigh

flint plover
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kind of like purgatus with those as well. aim your flamethrower away from your frontliners so that they can regen toughness

simple junco
bleak tulip
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ya

simple junco
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You're not there to steal toughness, just thin the horde where it's not being addressed

flint plover
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or if you do aim them at your frontliners, do your best to not do top raid dps on them

long wharf
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actually, with what we confirmed today, absolutely apply soulblaze to the horde in front of other players

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the other players are likely to still get the kill, so you aren't stealing anything, but you'll have the AB proc chance for more warp charges

simple junco
burnt python
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im glad ppl are starting to realize melee horde clear >> range for toughness reasons, was a pretty key component in handling high level vt2

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its not as important, but it still is esp for your zealots

simple junco
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Yep, we just needs vets to realize that ranged trash NEEDS to die on T5 and we're good

bleak tulip
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I mean vt2 didnt have the same kind of range focus as this game either, so people being misled into going for guns for fucking everything is sort of understandable

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especially vets

simple junco
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I've seen too many of them run bolter and just ignore shooters

near wyvern
burnt python
bleak tulip
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I just played with two vets that would stand 15 meters behind me (zealot) and the ogryn getting fucking swarmed while they just pewpewd into a fuckin horde

burnt python
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oh wait, other players killing has not been confirmed

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but i see no reason to think it works differently

near wyvern
burnt python
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other than typical fatshark shenanigans i guess

simple junco
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Power sword all day when there's no shooters on the field lol

long wharf
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some players are just bad

bleak tulip
long wharf
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incompetent, even

simple junco
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Ah yes, T4

burnt python
bleak tulip
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why, you just puff a horde and then dont hit em

burnt python
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if someone decides to test pls make sure you remove communion from the equation

bleak tulip
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if you get a charge, voila

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one puff isnt gonna kill anything

burnt python
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if a melee leaves em on a sliver they can die to it still

bleak tulip
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I mean its reasonably clear considering they tick at like 2 damage a pop

simple junco
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tbh, if you're on T5, a 75% charge will generally leave all poxwalkers oneshot

burnt python
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i agree, but reasonably clear =/= proof

bleak tulip
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well there is literally no other way to set it up that I could think of

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so its the best you got

burnt python
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just need a private game

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1 purge boy and like a zealot w/ a weapon you know will 1 shot

sharp ibex
burnt python
bleak tulip
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you could just not run it for one mission lol

simple junco
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Maybe run a private t1?

sharp ibex
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Is this info actually important to know though

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Like reall;y

near wyvern
sharp ibex
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What does it change

simple junco
burnt python
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it changes ABs viability as a charge gen source

simple junco
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Don't discredit testing

burnt python
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by a lot

bleak tulip
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I am just gonna run a mission with purg and see if I get 4 stacks in one second lol

burnt python
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( i still think ab is kinda bad regardless )

bleak tulip
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thats not science but its good enough for me

near wyvern
simple junco
burnt python
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ppl speculate 10% chance for warp charge from burning enemy

simple junco
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It's definitely not 10% on burning kill

burnt python
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it feels lower than 10% to me but w/o testing no point in throwing numbers out, someone else "tested" and said 10%

ebon jolt
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I think AB is pretty good when you have 6 stacks. Managing your stacks turns into the hard part.

wanton sandal
burnt python
bleak tulip
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it just says 10 what do you mean

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yeah the wording is still wrong

burnt python
bleak tulip
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but we proved that its wrong

burnt python
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i somehow never noticed that

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but ya i dont trust shit that the text descriptions say

bleak tulip
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shit happens lol

ebon jolt
bleak tulip
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yeah imma just run my first purg in a long time and just see how I like it

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(probably wont because I wont be able to snipe but oh well)

dense cloud
bleak tulip
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122122 lets a go

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wacky shit

burnt python
wanton sandal
simple junco
dense cloud
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precog T_t tho

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i got a 2de won to test tho

ebon jolt
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Purg involves a lot more BB than other staves.

bleak tulip
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just keep it for the reroll

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itll happen eventually

shut thorn
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Gonna post some warpfire stuff in a bit

simple junco
burnt python
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i use a lot of bb with any staff tbh, when running KB i use it a looot

simple junco
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Opening up a fight with KB is great

shut thorn
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Warpfire applies cleave

simple junco
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Wut

shut thorn
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Also that's the armor dmg for it

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That's from staff

burnt python
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warpfire dmg is affected by distance? am i understanding this right?

shut thorn
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Also those trying to run critical on surge, sorry bad news

simple junco
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Like, the actual warpfire dps

burnt python
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seems like that would've been noticed in testing at some point, wonder if this is legacy code

wanton sandal
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woo!!!!!

shut thorn
burnt python
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ahhh

simple junco
shut thorn
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Not purg

simple junco
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Oh rip my bad

burnt python
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were people trying to run surge crit builds?? lol

shut thorn
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Yeah seems theres no point running crit for surge

near wyvern
# burnt python that's the biggest downside imo. with KB setups you dont need to manage charges...

I use 15% ult CDR with kinetic flayer and AB

I don't manage stacks at all but I often have 4 ready to go when I AB and instantly get them back

With purge you anyways BB quite a lot because veterans like to have their gun barrels up their arses.

I make sure to ult before any elites go down so I can just ult and ult.

The point is not to kill them with the but to CC elites abd prep horde to be instantly cleansed with purge staff once in range.

Also never have to quell during fights as long as there is stuff to kill.

shut thorn
wanton sandal
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its usefulness is kinda capped out at the stagger it brings

simple junco
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Does terrifying presence work on surge?

simple junco
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Too much fallout

shut thorn
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all staves do suppression for 5m

simple junco
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All of them on kill?

burnt python
shut thorn
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Just the dmg being dealt applies suppression

burnt python
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& the requirement of a horde being present to get full value

simple junco
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Huh. That's really cool actually

shut thorn
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For void, the explosion must go off

simple junco
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We should probably write this stuff in a google doc and pin it

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At least the datamined stuff

wanton sandal
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interesting, i havent seen this blessing before

burnt python
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the lack of suppression from void rmb projectile is perplexing to me

shut thorn
near wyvern
shut thorn
wanton sandal
burnt python
shut thorn
burnt python
shut thorn
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Used to be target seeking n stuff

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Called magic missile originally

wanton sandal
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aw man

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i'd love it if it was still seeking

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hard enough to aim on moving targets with it

shut thorn
silk flax
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A decent emp gift. Does anyone know if block effiency also applies to "Deflector"?

wanton sandal
burnt python
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and the damn mg xii is so strong it makes gun psyker viable w/ 0 synergy lol

simple junco
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The amount of people waiting for just a deflector is immeasurable

shut thorn
silk flax
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Cool ty

shut thorn
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Why did it correct to doesn't

thorny idol
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anyone else unable to load in since the hotfix? I get stuck in an endless loading screen

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after picking character

shut thorn
simple junco
shut thorn
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for bfg staff

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Guess it's left over code or smth

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From some idea they had

near wyvern
sour stirrup
nocturne edge
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I kinda love how collectively most discussions on psyker at some point gotta go over "Well if your Veteran is doing what he's supposed to do then you can do this better option - but he's not so you're the babysitter because Psykers got largest brains

burnt python
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Yeah it's certainly strong, it just (similar to surge) leaves you with gaps in your kit

leaden pier
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what's the max possible block cost reduction given by the deflector blessing?

mystic dome
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So what are the established "builds" for psyker at the moment? running 3-2-1-1-3-1 and not feeling the vibe

night marten
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honestly the original point from a couple weeks ago of "virtually any staff works" is still valid, and even trauma appears to be usable

night marten
bleak tulip
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I dont think AB works friends

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:c

sour stirrup
patent hatch
simple junco
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How so?

bleak tulip
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the charge from friendlies

burnt python
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3-2-1-1-1-3 for generic setup

simple junco
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Ahhh. How many have you tested this on and what's your control environment?

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Either way, rip

bleak tulip
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just puffing shit and im not getting any chartges when friendlies kill em

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like at all

teal cargo
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Id rather have Kinetic Flayer

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at 25

night marten
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guessing anything soulblaze related is restricted entirely to the caster

teal cargo
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unless purg

simple junco
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Do you get charges if another purg staff puts soulblaze on?

near wyvern
mystic dome
clear heath
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3-2-1-1-3-3 is what i would do for any non-purg build

night marten
teal cargo
simple junco
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Okay, so: AB gives stacks on soulblaze if an enemy dies under its effect, but only isolated to your caster's kills.

mystic dome
sour stirrup
burnt python
night marten
near wyvern
sour stirrup
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Yes.

bleak tulip
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still mid mission so I cant go into it too much but I dont think I can even get the thing we confimed to work, to work

burnt python
simple junco
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Yeah, it's pretty well known for a while that blaze is universal

sour stirrup
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And all I had on was AB

night marten
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so maybe 4 psykers with purge running aura + AB is a nice group

near wyvern
simple junco
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We could possibly create a cleaner control environment, but this basically means that stealing kills is the way to go lol

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rip

burnt python
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much to the chagrin of ur local zealots

simple junco
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Yeahhh that's what I was afraid of

wanton sandal
near wyvern
clear heath
simple junco
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Maybe do a half puff into a horde and swap to an axe?

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Double up on CC

raw swift
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which do i pick

ebon jolt
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What I usually run:
Purg: [1/3]/2/1/1/1/2
Void: 3/1/2/1/3/3
Don't use Surge much.

simple junco
clear heath
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Yeah just launch the bots off a ledge with a barrel

simple junco
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But yeah, maybe running purg/axe is the play if the caster needs to kill without stealing too much toughness from the frontline

valid lake
simple junco
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At least from our current understanding of it

clear heath
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I mean, my surge is still blue

mystic dome
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I gotta say guys, its kinda darkly funny in this discord

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Other classes have well defined builds

wanton sandal
mystic dome
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meanwhile psykers have to sit and math if our abilities actually work

simple junco
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Yep. Kinda like it though.

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Keeps it fresh

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My understanding of the purg build has changed drastically across three days

wanton sandal
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our builds are much like the warp. disorganized, chaotic, and poorly understood

ebon jolt
clear heath
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Wording on zealot feats don't exactly make sense either
Stuff that just says damage only affects melee damage
The skill that's supposed to work on only melee damage works on guns

night marten
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Purge 121122 all the way, feels real good

sonic aspen
burnt python
wanton sandal
simple junco
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"This is where the fun begins"

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Data mines

mystic dome
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I'm honestly expecting fatshark to come back after christmas and be like oh shit we completely disabled every psyker talent

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and have had absolutely no one notice

wanton sandal
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relatable?

burnt python
clear heath
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If half of the psyker feats didn't work, no one would even notice
99% of us use almost identical feats

simple junco
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Patch Notes:

  • Removed all staves from the game
  • Ascendant Blaze only works on grenade kills
clear heath
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our talent selection just sucks

sonic aspen
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Patch Notes:

  • There was no psyker
ebon jolt
mystic dome
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You are little babies

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observe

keen belfry
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If i had a vet that had my pskyers guns i would be very happy...

sour stirrup
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Just based on what I've been messing with the last couple days I think I'm gonna end up with a 3-2-1-1-1-3. I'm finding that rapid fire brain bursts are pretty effective. Staff is to flavor honestly, which I think comes down to how good your blessings are.

near wyvern
wanton sandal
clear heath
simple junco
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  • Using a force sword instantly induces Perils of the Warp
wanton sandal
near wyvern
wanton sandal
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i just dont like managing my warp charges a whole lot

shut thorn
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it's easy, equip combat blade, equip surge staff, swallow your pride and speedrun sedition

sonic aspen
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  • Launching the game as a Psyker instantly deletes your character and creates a vet
keen belfry
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-removed all staves from the game , ( i felt this one )

mystic dome
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You mean it doesnt already?

near wyvern
violet yoke
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wtb to buy psteel for irl cash at this point

burnt fjord
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Put together a full stam/sprint kit and rush through some r2s 😉

bleak tulip
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so I just did a purg mission malice because I didnt wanna ruin other player's shit and man I dont think I ever felt this pointless as psyker lmao

AB passive doesnt seem to work when you apply the soulblaze, and let friendlies kill em, I basically never got any charges from that, and then I spent half the mission trying to recreate the thing we tried out in meatgrinder earlier (applying soublaze and then meleeing the mob to trigger a charge gain) and I couldnt get it to work, though that one I am less sure about since the chance is just that low that I could have just gotten really unlucky.

@long wharf @wise pecan @night marten

shut thorn
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if you do it right you can even clear malice sub 10 min

bleak tulip
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feel free to try it yourself, this was just a vibecheck on my end and not scientific at all

shut thorn
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but that requires your team to understand that

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they do not need to kill ANY enemy

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do assassination missions

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just stun trash

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run to end

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melee burst boss

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done

shadow wigeon
burnt fjord
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So basically has to be premade 4-stack, no pugs

teal cargo
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Zealot, gotta go fast?

clear heath
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I wish we could play private lobby solo

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I would love to try soloing heresy or something

mystic dome
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Immeasurably complex

sonic aspen
mystic dome
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please understand

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its snowing

night marten
clear heath
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Enabling the button when you have only 1 person is too hard

near wyvern
night marten
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if it's burning, I'm probably torching it to death

sour stirrup
clear heath
night marten
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malice won't feel as good as heresy or damn with purge because it's easier for people to burst things down much more quickly and there's less enemy density

simple junco
bleak tulip
simple junco
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But it has to be YOUR damage

night marten
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a vet can probably solo the whole mission for the team tbh

sour stirrup
shut thorn
simple junco
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It is, and it's unfortunate

bleak tulip
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certainly seems that way

burnt fjord
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Even a 0 charge AB does a surprising amount of damage

simple junco
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I wonder if it will change to reflect "any source" sometime

bleak tulip
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which makes purg unfortunately dogwater again in my book

simple junco
sour stirrup
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Psyker needs a lot of help.

night marten
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but sure I think the class should be buffed lol

burnt fjord
shut thorn
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🥹

simple junco
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Tru

shut thorn
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Stop deleting my msgs

near wyvern
simple junco
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Also, maybe running AB with an axe is the way to go to generate charges

sour stirrup
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I prefer to use 3 at 30 and just BB a lot of stuff.

bleak tulip
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stop upsetting the bots then emma

sonic aspen
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If you're typing too fast the one bot they have may attack you

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It can't speed read so it gets angry

shut thorn
shut thorn
mystic dome
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Cant wait for the next mission that gets released being a search in the Fatshark vaults to recover the thunderhammer buffs

shut thorn
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Which is why I've been taking pics instead

sonic aspen
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New missions release find the missing coding in one of the servitor colonies

sour stirrup
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I'm having a hard time finding good blessings on Purg or Surge staves and I have no idea if they have anything interesting in their blessing pool.

shut thorn
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that's abt it

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well

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warp nexus for purg

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surge crit mods are laughable

valid lake
shut thorn
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oh yeah about warp flurry

sour stirrup
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I've got a Voidstrike with quell on weak point hit and a Trauma with Rending on secondary. Both of those feel kinda awesome.

shut thorn
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it's specifically designed for staves

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but it's broke for some reason

young zinc
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how is warp fully broken>

shut thorn
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no idea why, code seems ok

simple junco
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I think it's something to do with how the right click works, and finishing the cast is technically breaking the chain

clear heath
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working as intended
they want psyker to have as much useless shit as possible

bleak tulip
shut thorn
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it gives you a tiny time window to start charging again

simple junco
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Oh shit, how small is it?

shut thorn
young zinc
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so which staff would you say is best for solo matchmaking?

sonic aspen
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at least 1 tick

bleak tulip
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like half a second maybe?

simple junco
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Yikes, okay that's news

shut thorn
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tl'dr you have to use

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cancelling

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to utilize it

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lol

sonic aspen
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and well cancelling is kinda hard when they removed most of it

clear heath
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When does the timer even start? When you begin charging the first attack? When you release? Or when the attack ends?

simple junco
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Oh speaking of, did they get rid of the quell bug?

sonic aspen
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qq cancel should work? Not sure havent tried it

valid lake
clear heath
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Cause surge's attack animation is so long that there probably isn't time

velvet lodge
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any reason why psyker penances are so anti-teamplay?

night marten
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shut thorn
clear heath
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Because fatshark hates us

valid lake
wanton sandal
clear heath
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the class barely functions properly and they want to punish us for playing it so we don't find out how broken it is

shut thorn
simple junco
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Think we should submit one for AB not proccing on kills from "any source"?

clear heath
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I don't even understand how AB is supposed to function at this point
Who knows what the intended result is supposed to be?

valid lake
simple junco
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I mean, it can't be worse than having to run purg/axe to not steal kills from your local zealot

night marten
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the wording is so weirrd: "your soulblaze effects (from any source)"

shadow wigeon
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I have never paid attention to crit on purge.... dont know what to make of this.

shut thorn
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oh yeah reminds me, in code, chain lightning cone is 25 degrees

night marten
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what does 'your' mean to you?

night marten
shut thorn
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its also confirmed in code to do this

sonic aspen
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or the grenade for the subclass

shadow wigeon
shut thorn
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its 25 degs for one side

shadow wigeon
shut thorn
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so a 50 deg arc

clear heath
sonic aspen
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so 50 deg in total

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ok

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got it

shut thorn
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but yes if you had an arc

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from left to right

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its 50

sonic aspen
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that makes more sense

shut thorn
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or well its 24.98yadaayadayada x2

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o ya

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flamer/purg

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uses projectiles

shadow wigeon
shut thorn
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instead of a cone

valid lake
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we got lightning / fire staff where the ice staff

night marten
shut thorn
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u get 3 versions of trauma

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2 versions of flame

shadow wigeon
night marten
keen belfry
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Not sure if I am a Pskyer or Paul Bunion at this point...

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thanks fat shark

valid imp
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Glad I'm not the only Psyker who's constantly given axes

keen belfry
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scammed

valid lake
ebon jolt
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Just played a game as AB purg w/ another AB purg user and I've never gotten 6 stacks so fast in my life.

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Even when I was standing outside of cohesion not doing anything they still generated stacks for me with their soul fire.

patent hatch
fringe garden
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Force Sword does become pretty nice once you get a good deflector one and stack some block efficieny

valid lake
fringe garden
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It can even be serviceable as a melee. I do the block/push ->light->heavy over and over and it can handle small hordes when you're overwhelmed

teal cargo
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and has legit good boss dmg

fierce hazel
fringe garden
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I use the special to burst down big stuff if I am otherwise safe. Being locked into the animation sucks

mystic dome
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given the reports about it stacking

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does the code even know how to differentiate between 2 psykers in a match?

fringe garden
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Who knows

slate star
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So, I remember FS wanted to add AOE on Force Sword special. Does it work?

mystic dome
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Maybe that's why it stacks up so much quicker with 2 psykers in a party

wanton sandal
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why must the emperor punish me so

fringe garden
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I don't think the AoE ever made it on

mystic dome
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cause each proc goes to both

night marten
keen belfry
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@wanton sandal Its still good imo

night marten
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one of the better ways to avoid mis-firing or getting wailed on while killing the elite with FS special

wanton sandal
young zinc
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yeah put the right blessings on it abd it could be okay

atomic pecan
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Anyone know if curio stamina getting fixed soon?

young zinc
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whats wrong with curio stamnina?

keen belfry
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@wanton sandal 73%

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?

wanton sandal
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can only get off 2 before i need to quell

atomic pecan
keen belfry
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@wanton sandal is that with the Wrap Rest feat?

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Warp*

slate star
wanton sandal
night marten
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makes it less likely a little guy eats your charge while the big guy wails on you

grave bobcat
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Watching everyone run to the shop

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At this specific time

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Is always so entertaining

slate star
grave bobcat
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And now to spend 20 mins rerolling a perk for the one I want

flint plover
grave bobcat
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My music is a lot louder anyway 😛

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The delay on each roll is the annoying bit lol

near wyvern
grave bobcat
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Pog it only took like 5 mins to get max roll on the one i wanted 🙂

grave bobcat
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lmfao

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Just constant in/out motion to make sure I don't do that cause it cost me 15 minutes last time I did that fuck up

slate star
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Any tips for Void staff on T4-T5? I really want to swap from Surge, but I feel myself like another vet but gimp. Is it a good idea to pair Void with Force Sword?

grave bobcat
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I haven't used the void enough on t5 so I would help if I could though lol

near wyvern
atomic pecan
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Spam charge shots 80% of the time

grave bobcat
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Hadron you BITCH

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GIVE ME WHAT I EARNED

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oh

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wow

wanton sandal
grave bobcat
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2nd roll after I complained

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Truly

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Complaining works every time

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British way

wanton sandal
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deflector fs is best tho

near wyvern
atomic pecan
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10% of the full charge for actual ranged snipes

split oxide
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ForceSword: rubbish against hordes right? (there's no wide-swing)

young zinc
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so why does physker run chainsword? im legit curious

grave bobcat
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Fun

wanton sandal
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i like it

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entirely personal preference

grave bobcat
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You quell faster even and don't lose the FS special

atomic pecan
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10% half charge cos you are bored or tired spamming insta charge shots

night marten
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imo

split oxide
slate star
grave bobcat
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Damn I got pretty lucky with curios tbh only 1 of them has a perk I can't change

young zinc
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my thought on FS is you run a horde clear staff sense the FS charge attack wrecks single targets

wanton sandal
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theres a few frames after you shoot when you pull your hand back that yo ucan tap R to cancel the recovery

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lets you charge up faster andget another shot out

slate star
wanton sandal
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nah just have decent warp resistance roll and you'll be fine

atomic pecan
grave bobcat
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After how horrible the DS felt today

young zinc
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DS?

grave bobcat
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I cant help but think people who use it now just almost never melee anything

grave bobcat
young zinc
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ah yeah the heavy and duel swords suuuuucccccck

atomic pecan
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You lose enough peril via passive when you spam at horde

grave bobcat
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Instead it's more a movement tool so they can keep using their staffs lol

sharp ibex
#

I love my DS's

split oxide
sharp ibex
#

Swish and flick

grave bobcat
#

Permanently shelved for me after the missions I gave them another chance today

sharp ibex
#

fast heavies when you need them, and the 5 has a DIVINE light chain

slate star
native ember
#

DS is good for tickling hordes maybe

sharp ibex
grave bobcat
#

Anyway

near wyvern
grave bobcat
#

I tried V and 2? I think it was that I owned already

#

both of them 370+

flint plover
#

some people will always argue for damage over mobility. i'll gladly take a dmg hit to go fast

grave bobcat
#

And each time its like

#

"There is better waepon for this"

atomic pecan
simple junco
#

Not enough knife in this chat

near wyvern
flint plover
#

yeah, exactly

grave bobcat
#

My perspective has settled in stone

sharp ibex
#

Paper beats rock

#

Ha gotem

near wyvern
#

Combat blade is also nice for the occasional single mob from behind since I can 1 tap head on all horde mobs except drag bruiser. Flamers die in 2 tap heavies.

slate star
grave bobcat
#

Drag bruiser?

#

Crusher?

sharp ibex
#

A bruiser in drag

#

Now that's a sight

near wyvern
grave bobcat
#

lmfao

#

Welp I'm only just learning their names

#

lmfao

#

They're just part of "horde" in my head

near wyvern
#

@grave bobcat

grave bobcat
#

Already looking at that 😛

split oxide
#

DREG

near wyvern
#

Drag

#

Cus they be dragging

grave bobcat
#

also

#

You can still insta them

#

If your knife doesn't crit more often than it normal htis then you fuckin up

split oxide
#

Can a Psyker survive if they get seperated from the team?

wanton sandal
#

sometimes

deft oak
#

For Melee, am i basically after a good Force sword? Or are there other weapons i should chase?

near wyvern
grave bobcat
grave bobcat
vital bough
# vital bough Anax MKV

Good for shove-attack spam in combination with the peril block perk, specifically. Lets you laugh at melee hordes, but then the struggle is dealing with gunners at the same time.

near wyvern
#

My knife can one shot all the regular melee and ranged except the dreg bruiser. Missing like 36 damage from that.

#

And that's without a crit

#

But it's like 330 or so for the base stats

#

Haven't seen a better one yet

vital bough
#

Would any fellow Psyker's like a video for how to tech a backwards slide while force-sword animation locked?

grave bobcat
#

Tbh

#

Knife has actually been the hardest weapon to find for me

#

I can't find a good one and my best one today got griefed by the bleed on crit blessing lmfao

#

So now i need a new one

steel flame
#

No your wrong it's a good deflector fs

split oxide
#

Is FS worthless without Deflector?

steel flame
#

No

warped perch
#

Is this voidstrike staff good to upgrade? Not sure

grave bobcat
#

I prefer Slaughterer/Shred on FS

#

So nah not worthless

steel flame
#

But with burge staff it makes up for lack of range

vital bough
#

Force Sword has one of the highest single-target dps for any weapon in the game if you're alt-charging and then heavy attacking.

It's not entirely worthless without Deflector. But Deflector is one of the cooler parts about it imo.

wanton sandal
near wyvern
# split oxide Is FS worthless without Deflector?

Deflector is only really good for clutch ressing. The fact that you can block and tank ranged doesn't mean you should. The team benefits more if you start to BB the ranged rather than cos play a jedi in the middle of the mission.

Stuff needs to die.

wanton sandal
#

if u have a worse staff yeah upgrade to it

steel flame
#

And I have only found 2 deflector fs in 200 hours

warped perch
grave bobcat
#

But its single hit is decent

wanton sandal
#

transfer peril is a great one but warp nexus works

grave bobcat
#

maybe if the charge was faster

vital bough
grave bobcat
#

I guess its more punishable

#

Than "slow"

vital bough
#

I mean I just abuse the infinite dodge limit on it and dodge while doing everything when possible

grave bobcat
#

Cause 2+ special/elites on me stops me from using it potentially

vital bough
#

I even figured a tech for dodge sliding while doing the Alt-Charge hit

grave bobcat
#

true I do like that a lot

#

You're not crabbing side to side as wel are you?

vital bough
#

Crabbing?

grave bobcat
#

Basically permanently crouched and just constantly dodging left/right

vital bough
#

I usually dodge in the same direction, circle around, and then Alt-charge attack while dodge-sliding backwards

#

Nah I don't crab

grave bobcat
#

Crab isn't an actual term btw lmao

#

I just call it that cause it reminds me of a crab

vital bough
#

I like circling around specifically to get behind bulwarks and open them up for the team

grave bobcat
#

Just moving permanently sideways circling enemies

#

lmao

#

yeah

vital bough
#

Yeah they tend to not hit you

#

Even DH struggles if you just circle around him nonstop

#

It's kinda funny lol

#

I infinitely dodge sideways and it's faster than most people running, except with a knife

grave bobcat
#

Funnily the dagger just brute forces through the shield

vital bough
#

but my mobility on my FS is also at 68% or something so it's not great

grave bobcat
#

ANd you can kill them in the time they're staggerred

#

Mine is 79% but I'd prefer it to be swapped with my 63% finesse

#

But this is my griefed 380 FS anyway

#

Best blessing pog

vital bough
#

It's not the best out there but it was a gift from Big E so I'm happy with it

wise pecan
#

I love up to 3% more power. So useful

grave bobcat
#

Worlds strongest FS

#

this became my strongest

#

after that one got griefed

#

I won't get it but I want soulblaze on this one

vital bough
shut thorn
fierce hazel
shut thorn
#

we currently have one of the two

grave bobcat
shut thorn
grave bobcat
#

My dagger griefed

shut thorn
#

a lot of content ends up getting cut in games

grave bobcat
#

Why

shut thorn
#

what's going on

fierce hazel
grave bobcat
#

I rolled the bleed on crit blessing

shut thorn
#

oh I thought you meant someone was fucking around w/ ur acc

grave bobcat
#

lmao no

#

Just mourning my weapons being destroyed by hadron gamba

wanton sandal
#

huh, today i learned that bb crits

grave bobcat
#

Eh?

#

Gonnan eed to see that chief

wanton sandal
#

sure lemme clip it

shut thorn
#

ive seen crit on smite

#

in a few files

flint plover
#

i've had so many amazing stat rolls and then the omnissiah goes "plop"

grave bobcat
#

My inventory closer resembles a graveyard

wanton sandal
grave bobcat
#

Of all the failed rols

#

Thats not a crit bruhh

wanton sandal
#

no charges

#

wym

#

its like 2x the damage

grave bobcat
#

Yeah but a crit would prob be even higher 🥲

shut thorn
#

that raises dmg

#

on consecutive

#

brainbursts

#

or well

#

after u bb an elite

#

it takes more dmg

#

u have that feat active

grave bobcat
wanton sandal
shut thorn
grave bobcat
#

It works anyway

#

try it

wanton sandal
#

could be flayer proccing lemme take it off

grave bobcat
#

ACTUALLY

#

caps

#

I have a clip of it anyway

shut thorn
#

calcium rn

wanton sandal
#

yeah its flayer proccing

#

interesting

shut thorn
#

why you gotta do him like that

grave bobcat
#

it's annoying that he survives a 2 shot breakpoint

#

on sub 100 hp

#

lol

#

Mf'er oculd trip and die his hps so low

fierce hazel
#

How come you didn't pop casting at 100%?

grave bobcat
#

97%

#

is the cut off

#

for BB cast

fierce hazel
#

You were at 100 when you casted a second time

grave bobcat
#

Oh

#

Lmfao

#

Good questionm

#

Oh nvm

#

I got lucky

#

ANd procced the 10% peril reduction

#

on kill

#

But its not enough to reduce it belkow 100%

fierce hazel
#

You should have entered that blowing up animation though

#

Right?

#

And be forced to ult to save?

grave bobcat
#

If I didn't get the this

#

Then yes I would've

fierce hazel
#

Nah

cunning goblet
#

Have you guys got a weird, what I think is a bug were there's a delay on quelling? I don't think it happened to me in mission but it happens in the training area

fierce hazel
#

What I'm saying is you should t have been able to wap to melee after the second bb

#

I saw the quell

grave bobcat
#

Yeah ik but that passive saved me

wanton sandal
fierce hazel
#

You shouldn't have been able to proc that passive

solar remnant
grave bobcat
cunning goblet
grave bobcat
#

Oh

#

WAit

#

Fuck it

wanton sandal
grave bobcat
#

Idk

#

lmfla

fierce hazel
#

Kek

grave bobcat
#

Go away Historitor

fierce hazel
#

Now you see what I mean yeah?

grave bobcat
#

Sorry mbad tired apparently

#

Yeah

#

\hmm

fierce hazel
#

That swap to melee never should have been possible

cunning goblet
#

Not much of a real issue as I didn't have it happen in mission just something I noticed testing damage in the training area

grave bobcat
#

Yeah idk why I didn't explode

wanton sandal
#

yeah this is going straight into the garbage

grave bobcat
#

I am now going to check if its cause i melee swapped though klol

wanton sandal
#

also does anyone else have their game crash when quitting out

grave bobcat
#

nop

wanton sandal
#

annoying

dense cloud
#

i got 3 defelctors baby 😄

grave bobcat
wise pecan
#

I have one, and it’s baseline deflector :(

grave bobcat
#

Since its just a joke clip 🥲

#

Dunno if I can replicate it

fierce hazel
grave bobcat
#

Hmm I have a staff equipped too which is rare

#

wonder waht I was doing lol

#

Shame I don't know which one I had on

#

Cause it might be relevant

steady skiff
#

lets see what shops are gonna have this refresh

#

just seeing that one...

#

opinions?

#

whats dump stat on surge?

fierce hazel
#

God I hate run and gun

grave bobcat
#

no idea waht I didc

steady skiff
#

ye run n gun is probably not the best there

fierce hazel
#

Prob a swap to melee at the PERFECT time to not go into the animation

grave bobcat
#

I tried spam swapping

#

But didn't work either 🤷

fierce hazel
#

Maybe it's a bug....nah....surely not.....not in my darktide

grave bobcat
#

THis game has barely nay bugs surely not 🥲

burnt python
#

you triggered battle mediation my friend

#

meditation

grave bobcat
#

Lmao

#

See

#

its not just me

fierce hazel
#

He should have never been able to swap to melee

grave bobcat
#

So I couldn't of procc'd it

burnt python
#

huh

#

idk i think cals playing a broken version of the game

#

well extra broken

grave bobcat
#

Its prob grinder just being fucky

steady skiff
#

whats the topic? what did you break?

grave bobcat
#

lmao

grave bobcat
#

Just random bug that I didn't peril explode

deft oak
grave bobcat
#

2/10

#

I wish I couild be shirtless on my Psyker

deft oak
#

ty

grave bobcat
#

np

steady skiff
grave bobcat
#

Any fun guns to try in shop 👀

steady skiff
#

only got one on preacher...

#

and probably gonna keep staffs on psyker anyway...

grave bobcat
#

Dang

keen belfry
#

Thank you Emprah! for Blessing me with yet another turd!

grave bobcat
#

A,lost

deft oak
#

Is this a grab from milk man?

grave bobcat
#

I want the 9 max stacks one

#

but thats a good blessing pair too 😦

warped perch
#

Lmao someone just said in a heresy game “you gotta try harder to play psyker, it’s a weak class”

#

Like ok?

#

It was a vet lmao

grave bobcat
#

People just put too much value on how much the "class" aspect of the characters really do imo

keen belfry
#

As he is holding down left mouse button

grave bobcat
#

Good player will be fine on any class 🤷

warped perch
shadow wigeon
#

TY to whoever recommend the +crit w/ warp nexus, goddang that felt like a big power jump on purge

grave bobcat
#

your welcome

warped perch
#

As we were escaping he fell off the elevator and died

keen belfry
#

good lol

warped perch
#

He said the psyker thing afterward lol

teal needle
#

Stg I see more dipshits in heresy than any other difficulty

steady skiff
grave bobcat
#

I had a dude trying to teach me how to play because I fucked up the timing on a pox burster at the start of a mission lmao

devout tinsel
#

Any strong recommendations for Force Sword blessings beside Deflector? :)

flint plover
#

it boggles my mind that people wont just lfg

shut thorn
vital bough
#

BTW for those of you not liking the FS for the animation-lock, this may be an option if you still want to try the FS.
Getting good at this Tech means you could potentially be MUCH safer every time you use the Alt-Fire.

teal needle
warped perch
grave bobcat
#

But this guy was Zealot

shut thorn
shut thorn
shadow wigeon
#

Kinetic Deflection + block efficiency = ?

shut thorn
#

it works

shadow wigeon
#

sick

grave bobcat
#

No interesting guns 😦

frank moat
#

Rashad is the icky-pooey axe right?

vital bough
# shut thorn bloodthristy > slaughterer > quell on hit

I've actually found Blazing Soul, mixed with a crit blessing on the staff and sword, can be very useful, does somewhat useful damage and also ties in to Ascending Blaze if it kills somebody.

If you look at the video I posted above, my Force Sword has only lvl 3 Blazing Soul and after one alt-fire crit, it's tic'ing for 84 a second. It actually kills that Mutant after the video ends from the burn alone.

grave bobcat
devout tinsel
grave bobcat
#

See if I haven't deleted it

shut thorn
#

On a FS

deft oak
#

Do we know what to hunt for Shock, Fire, or Void Staff? I want to know what rolls to chase.

frank moat
vital bough
#

Blessing*

shut thorn
burnt python
shut thorn
#

Meaning you can charge up, quickly ko a poxwalker/random trash and then delete stuff

#

that means you can qq click at like 500dmg

warped perch
#

Love seeing 600 guns and like 1 or 2 staves in the armory peepocry

deft oak
#

Who even wants guns anyway :c

grave bobcat
#

They're fun to swap things up a bit

vital bough
#

Shops are a bitch

#

I hate Peddler 138/143

devout tinsel
shut thorn
burnt python
#

it was a nice combo his stagger made em stack up

devout tinsel
shut thorn
#

Whoever made the wiki needs to stop being a clown and just check the streamed data

grave bobcat
#

lmfao

#

GODDAMN CLOWN

vital bough
#

Wiki also sources most of its info from stuff that was datamined from previous versions during the beta. Lots of inaccuracies and missing info.

devout tinsel
#

Is there a definitive/more reliable source than gameslantern right now?

flint plover
#

what do you think?

shut thorn
warped perch
shut thorn
#

+1 stam is kinda m-

#

wait

#

is that melk

flint plover
#

yes

shut thorn
#

-_-

warped perch
shut thorn
shut thorn
grave bobcat
#

I wonder how much I can try to max my stamina for the power from stam blesing

shut thorn
#

laser_bfg = krieg lasgun
forcestaff_bfg = voidstrike

#

bfg = big fucking gun

warped perch
#

That makes total sense

warped perch
vital bough
#

BFG is a DOOM joke, isn't it?

warped perch
#

Does it really

shut thorn
shut thorn
warped perch
#

Oh wow I thought you were kidding

shut thorn
#

shot funny energy balls

warped perch
#

I didn’t grow up in the doom days

wanton sandal
#

reroll +1 stam for crit

shut thorn
vital bough
#

Force Sword users be like:

warped perch
wanton sandal
shut thorn
vital bough
#

You put it in cereal

warped perch
#

Oh that dude

#

I’m slow

flint plover
#

i'm not sure why it being from melk is a bad thing

shut thorn
wanton sandal
#

melk's aight but the one good thing he had was 2.6k and i had 1.2k

wanton sandal
vital bough
#

Melk is a scammer.

shut thorn
warped perch
#

Melk is a good source of Calcium

wanton sandal
#

oh he hates my schizo psyker

warped perch
#

Never played elden ring

vital bough
#

Honestly though, I like some of the Purples Melk trades for.

I've found a few of them can have upwards of 350-380 base stats, and decently high level perks and blessings.

wanton sandal
shut thorn
keen belfry
#

it is

shut thorn
#

melk's is the biggest source of FOMO

vital bough
wanton sandal
keen belfry
#

i get bored then start gamblng

teal needle
#

Melk doesn't use the restroom until 4pm pst so he is ready to drop the worst shit possible on me

#

Every day without fail

wanton sandal
keen belfry
#

i think the best thing i have got is a blue tbh

warped perch
keen belfry
#

Just upgraded it its defiantly meh....

#

those blessings

shut thorn
wanton sandal
#

i like tho sblessings

keen belfry
#

this my first voidstaff, see how it does

warped perch
#

Why does vet chat always yell at each other lol

wanton sandal
#

"ah, yes, the psyker. have these guns"

shut thorn
patent hatch
simple junco
wanton sandal
shut thorn
proud mantle
#

does this game have the same system as VT2 where you need to equip higher base weapons to get higher base weapons in shop?

wanton sandal
#

ogryn chat is the only good class chat

simple junco
#

box

shut thorn
#

vet chat has like 5 states

keen belfry
#

ogryn just rp in there

wanton sandal
#

which is why its good

keen belfry
#

and yes box

proud mantle
#

because otherwise im stuck in low base cause i only have 2 staffs

shut thorn
#

wholesome, complaining about random stuff, datamining, piss fetishists, angry people

#

that's vet chat life cycle each day

wanton sandal
#

no way vet players are smart enough to datamine

shut thorn
#

wrong

grave bobcat
#

Meh this recon lasgun will do

shut thorn
#

most progress in datamining has been done by a zealot

#

no ogryns though

#

🙃

wooden solar
#

hey whats better for a build: Soul blaze or Warp Battery?

shut thorn
#

they're too busy saying that vt2 is better

wanton sandal
#

what staff

#

and the answer is flayer

shut thorn
wooden solar
#

my best staff currently is a flamethrower staff, but i do like chain lightning

wanton sandal
#

purg staves benefit from overload the most

#

but there's something to be said about warp battery and peril resist

shut thorn
#

equip combat blade, start recording, only use punch attack, save every clip of your punch proccing kinetic flayer and post a compilation into another chat saying how psyker unarmed damage procs brainburst

drowsy fog
#

All I've seen of vet chat is "hey fuck the psykers"

shut thorn
wanton sandal
wooden solar
#

its not the Psykers fualt fat shark decided there needed to be 2 classes that heavily relied on killing specails to get their fun toys

wanton sandal
shut thorn
#

"I don't get it" = idgi

grave bobcat
wanton sandal
#

o ty

grave bobcat
#

Must resistr

shut thorn
grave bobcat
#

I want too but I need plasteel atm

vital bough
burnt python
#

sightlines on that map arent too bad shouldnt be too hard

wanton sandal
wanton sandal
#

i think haymaker procs on bulwark shields as well

shut thorn
#

keep the

#

block eff too

vital bough
wanton sandal
#

lol ikr

leaden pier
#

wait it does?

shut thorn
vital bough
#

Oh! Of course!

leaden pier
#

but the shield is size of orgyn

shut thorn
#

bulwark has to slouch

#

to hide behind it

leaden pier
#

icy

shut thorn
#

also it didn't specify which human..

#

cawl is human :)

wanton sandal
#

ogryns are abhumans