psyker-class

[sharp ibex]

Duelling sword IS defensive, but can be wonderfully agressive too

[grim bay]

yeye

you can push/swing with it too

[random wolf]

The mk IV is my jam

[grim bay]

so free damage without opening to getting hit

[random wolf]

Fancy slashing

[grim bay]

and it cleaves

[sharp ibex]

Using the MkV because the overhead bops are funny

[grim bay]

Watch MainerZ, you will recommend people try it

and they will get emotional and attack you in this chat

for some reason its a sin to recommend a non meta use

[raw breach]

it can be.... but in my hands I can't help but go ham, the light attack combo feels so good

[grim bay]

because kids wont try new things even if its OP and BIS

[sharp ibex]

Oh god yea, it's so much fun

[grim bay]

im glad you gave it a go, 100% of the psykers who see me do it, try it, then do it

[obsidian creek]

i heard mainerz is toxic

[sharp ibex]

The heavies are so fast

[obsidian creek]

no1 likes him

[sharp ibex]

fuck u cunt

[grim bay]

• you can power slide still 😄

[obsidian creek]

lol

[grim bay]

get high mobility = perma sprint speed

• power slide = no ranged bullet hits

its just. so fun

[sharp ibex]

Not quite as fast as it was prepatch

[rotund sierra]

any ''tips'' for pick n mix or just pure rng and premade route?

[grim bay]

yeah no boost but still faster

[sharp ibex]

Still kept up with a zealot knife speedrun on sedition

[grim bay]

since you never have to slow sprint

[drowsy fog]

If only there was incentive to kill a daemonhost beyond penances

[grim bay]

i kill them because they're heretic

[obsidian creek]

kill'em for the lulz

[sharp ibex]

This is the best i've got so far

[grim bay]

also i want the passive kill count in BG

[raw breach]

if only anything we did aside from completing missions contributed to rewards/loot

[grim bay]

ooo def sword is good

[true torrent]

How many more weeks until they fix everything they broke on psyker?

[grim bay]

https://i.imgur.com/0J6BdhO.png

cleave is good too for that sweet sweet pushclear 😄

[shut thorn]

idk

prob new years

[raw breach]

same patch that introduces Sienna's 4th career

[grim bay]

but DEF gives you bigger dodge distance and sprint, which is honestly the real end game, mat farming xD

[left basin]

buf siker

[drowsy fog]

But yog what about the ever popular chainsword

[sharp ibex]

Did you say, cleave 😉 lol

[grim bay]

❤️ ❤️

[wise pecan]

2024

[dusky lantern]

Good cleavage

[sharp ibex]

Massive cleavage

[wise pecan]

Surge inducing seizures has been raised as an “urgent issue,” so probably after New Years

[sharp ibex]

Mate they'll forget about that after all the whiskey and coke

And I ain't talkin about cola

[drowsy fog]

Some whiskey sounds wonderful right now

[raw breach]

I've got a bottle of Honey Jack Daniels for nights like this lol

Does Infernus burn count as Soulblaze if you're a Psyker?

[wise pecan]

That would be hilarious. Test it

[chilly cobalt]

What combo do we do for the combat axe

[random wolf]

Too bad it's on a XII

Not an Accatran

[chilly cobalt]

Do we just spam push attacks

[wise pecan]

Yep

[raw breach]

Push Attack > Push attack > Push attack

[random wolf]

For Antax V for groups and hordes yes

[chilly cobalt]

Lol

[random wolf]

You have peril block who cares for stamina

[sharp ibex]

Peril block is bis

[ornate hamlet]

Cant seem to get cliffhanger, any suggestions? 🤡

[drowsy fog]

Espionage

[random wolf]

So here's a trick

[wise pecan]

Espionage, high intensity, that ending bit where you’re in a tower and the horde has to cross one of two narrow catwalks to reach you

[random wolf]

You don't have to knock them off

[drowsy fog]

Also it doesn't have to be with F. If F fails melee push

[random wolf]

If they die to your force weapon as they fall it counts

You know chasm station? The part where the enemies can spawn on top of the parked train right before the boss section?

[drowsy fog]

Steam achievement says it has to be with F but the penance does not

[random wolf]

I was using Purgatus and burning the dudes up top as they jump/fell off and it gave me cliffhanger

I was so confused

[ornate hamlet]

Ok, thats what ive been trying. The espionage map. I kinda know that spot. Ill give it a try lol

[raw breach]

what these people above said, but also use your ult push first, it's a cone directly in front of you, and then follow it up with some melee pushes as well

Sometimes your ult just knocks them down, then a melee push will knock them off the edge

[drowsy fog]

Psyker F should be buffed to 360°

[raw breach]

it has really long range as a frontal cone though

[drowsy fog]

I have spoken

[long wharf]

cliffhanger is very easily done on Chasm Logistratum, the first area with the bridge and the long, thing walkway next to it

takes little effort to setup

[covert cosmos]

god if only you could share loot between classes

fatshark PLEASE

[raw breach]

That's like saying Pick 'n' Mix is easily done on any Heresy+ High Intensity map. There's lots of ways it could be done, but getting just the right situation and executing is what really matters

[long wharf]

no, I mean it is actually very easy to do on that map in that spot

[covert cosmos]

damn im really surprised how effective gun psyker is

[long wharf]

like, trivially easy

[smoky orbit]

does it worth it's price?

[covert cosmos]

love being able to instantly blow up a pox burster with a flayer proc

[long wharf]

when Cliffhanger required 20 enemies pushed, you kind of needed to get a high intensity mission on it

but with 7, it's literally trivial

[raw breach]

339, you could get better with some patience from normal shop

[covert cosmos]

and kinetic shield+essence harvest makes you surprisingly bulky vs the ranged trash

[long wharf]

Pick n mix isn't "easily done" at all on any mission or difficulty

[smoky orbit]

oh, ok, ty very much

[burnt python]

id buy that

[long wharf]

if nothing else, it's very usable until you get a better base stat void staff later on

[violet fossil]

the penetration is rough, but the rest is pretty solid.. fingers crossed on good perks

[wise pecan]

I think pick n mix is pretty easy if you have a bio optics vet on comms and are willing to just roll the dice on the starting pack of mobs repeatedly

[warped perch]

Ugh managing stacks sometimes blows

[long wharf]

that's how I did it with a pre-made group chasing penances together

it still took time rerolling mission starts

I hate that penance so much

[warped perch]

I can't decide if I like the purge or surge staff better

[wise pecan]

Yeah but for me at least only like, 20 minutes to find 5 gunners

[warped perch]

Surge cc is so good

[raw breach]

Purg damage falls off at higher difficulty

[wise pecan]

Meanwhile I’ve spend literally an entire day just grinding in it, still no Out With a Bang

[teal cargo]

Purg still good at higher difficulty cos hordes bigger

so do more aoe dmg

[warped perch]

Meanwhile I've heard others say purg is the best at higher difficulty

[teal cargo]

all the staffs pretty good

cept maybe trauma

[wise pecan]

Purg directly scales with horde density, so gets better as you increase in difficulty

[violet fossil]

...yeah consecrating didn't go so well

[teal cargo]

but do be trauma enjoyers

[warped perch]

Heresy was just a breeze with surge tho. So much cc that people could just leisurely cut down everything

[wise pecan]

My experience as well

[misty plaza]

he had just died to perils of the warp explosion and i revived him. awfully sus behavior 🤨

[warped perch]

I don't care about getting big damage, I wanna keep things manageable

[teal cargo]

Zealot always sussy 😔

[warped perch]

LMAO like I said I love the German psyker

He's hilarious

[violet fossil]

german psyker best psyker

hands down

[warped perch]

Love that people are making darktide comics already

[raw breach]

French psyker best psyker

[warped perch]

Btw how are so many people getting blanket pfps

[long wharf]

pfps?

[plain mesa]

profile pics

i think..

[warped perch]

Yep

[void hearth]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/295898721936474112/804824474695237713/test_-_Copy.gif

thoughts>

?

[raw breach]

Unrelated, must be heresy.

[long wharf]

definitely heresy

[warped perch]

Love how the psykers are talking about heresy

[drowsy fog]

Give me an Irish psyker fatshark

[warped perch]

Is the french pyker the female loner?

[raw breach]

Fem Savant

[subtle magnet]

anyone experienced with the flamethrower staff? the range feels uncomfortably short

[drowsy fog]

Roll more cloud radius

[subtle magnet]

im just using it while leveling, im not gonna craft anything on it

[drowsy fog]

Cloud radius and burn are the priority stats

[untold smelt]

How do you unlock the fully black hood the psyker wears on the cover art?

[subtle magnet]

it has 64% cloud radius though

[drowsy fog]

That missing 16 will feel very different when you get it. But yes purg is a short range staff

[raw breach]

needs to be 75-80

[shut thorn]

Wow very funny haha

[manic palm]

has anyone tested the 5 bb penance with the plasma gun yet

someone told me you can do it with SS

[raw breach]

plasma gun is vet only

[shut thorn]

The plasma gun can only do going out with a bang, it's not a bb

[manic palm]

oooh

lol

ok

[raw breach]

oh... i had no idea you could use the plasma gun on veteran to get going out with a bang for psyker.... but alright then.

[long wharf]

they lied to you

[manic palm]

yeah just wanted to check in here

[rotund sierra]

you used to be able to get 100% accuracy penance with a zealot having a flamer :x

[void hearth]

it triggers antivirus for some reason

v funny

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/295898721936474112/804824474695237713/test_-_Copy.gif

[shut thorn]

Because it has malicious code that never runs at the end of the file

[violet fossil]

sorry was in a mission, it's a discord nitro thing i think. temporary profile picture borders until the 6th

[void hearth]

ya

so all it does it trigger it

while not doing anything

[shut thorn]

Ok but why are you annoying ppl w it

[void hearth]

v entertaining

[warped perch]

Wait wtf just happened

[shut thorn]

plasma gun exploding is perils of warp

[warped perch]

Np

[warped perch]

[raw breach]

okay, so are you trying to send malicious code through discord somehow? because that's what it's starting to sound like

[void hearth]

..

[teal cargo]

How ddo you get the facemask cosmetic?

[shut thorn]

No he's being a teenage retard

[void hearth]

sheesh

[rotund sierra]

which one?

[void hearth]

im the one whos mad now

[shut thorn]

It's just another brainless vet

[void hearth]

surely

[shut thorn]

Don't pay attention to it

[untold smelt]

does this still work?

[shut thorn]

probably

[drowsy fog]

Vets mad vets bad

[shut thorn]

Idk I'm not the one who did it

[untold smelt]

oh when did you get this vid?

[shut thorn]

Today

[untold smelt]

oh damn ok

[shut thorn]

Literal minutes before

[echo parrot]

Whats the icon on the far right mean? FIrst time seeing it

[long wharf]

means you're in coherency, I believe

[maiden sleet]

If you're in a party, that icon lets you know who's in it

[echo parrot]

This is a post match screen

[echo parrot]

Inetresting because I am not in a party

[long wharf]

then I have no idea

[maiden sleet]

Weird

[wise pecan]

The one that’s just the mask and the popped collar? Imperial edition

[burnt python]

it means they pressed "merge strike team"

[errant stream]

did fatshark fix the 100% peril bug?

[teal cargo]

oh?

[leaden pier]

what should i reroll that is not the 10% ordo dockets (i want more shekels)

[teal cargo]

the one that just has a facemask in front

[wise pecan]

Sprint efficiency

[teal cargo]

liek this

[leaden pier]

oh yeah, what should i look for?

[drowsy fog]

Personally I don't like any of those lol

[wise pecan]

Yeah the chest piece and helmet on that are imperial edition

[rotund sierra]

That's from the imperial edition

[teal cargo]

oh

looks pretty good

[rotund sierra]

The cowl thing behind it is also the helmet. Its not just the face mask

[wise pecan]

Block efficiency, and then whichever flavor of damage resistance counters the enemy type you hate most

[leaden pier]

does resist against gunners include reapers?

[teal cargo]

I wish there was like a normal shooter resistance lol

[grave bobcat]

Ye

[wise pecan]

No idea

[rotund sierra]

That's gunners

[teal cargo]

no idea

[rotund sierra]

Everything that veterans ability with the feat to highlight gunners would count as gunners.

[drowsy fog]

Gunners are a pain ngl

Probably my most hated elite

[simple junco]

Yeahhh

[rotund sierra]

So most likely that 1 type of laz gun enemies wont and reapers also wont because they are unyielding

[leaden pier]

you know what imma save my diamantine for this one if it has a better perk set

[grave bobcat]

Running max gun resist helps a lot 🥲

[wise pecan]

I believe the damage resistance perk only counts the guys with miniguns as it’s relevant gunners

Maaaybe shotgunners, too?

[grave bobcat]

Nop

Doesn't work on those

[wise pecan]

Oof

[grave bobcat]

Idd

[rotund sierra]

I'd think that everything that veterans feat to highlight gunners would as they have "gunners" type in the coding

[wise pecan]

You’d think so. You really would.

[grave bobcat]

But I have highest possible gunner resist and last I checked they do like 4 toughness damage to me

point blank

[rotund sierra]

Same way as "mutie" is a "human sized" enemy for the sake of the knife blessing to 1 shot kill human sized enemies

[spiral remnant]

??? Tf?

[drowsy fog]

Ignore it

Just a vet being lame

[wise pecan]

Personally, I find gunners’ stagger far more threatening than their damage

[grave bobcat]

Gotta get through the toughness first 😄

Reapers pushing me around is annoying though lol

[drowsy fog]

Reapers are pushovers

[grave bobcat]

Like they do 0 damage but just push me push me off ledges sometimes lol

[leaden pier]

is 15% against snipers worth it? if i have only 1?

[wise pecan]

True, but they’re generally in a pack of regular shooters, who you will take far more than 4 damage from

[grave bobcat]

Depends if you get hit by them

Yeah the regular bois

They're the problem 🥲

[drowsy fog]

If you have a hard time dodging snipers yeah 15% is probably pretty good since they chunk you

[wise pecan]

I think I’d probably go snipers = bombers > mutants = gunners > hounds

With hounds being the least prioritized, because their threat is cc more than damage

[drowsy fog]

I wouldn't say I'm scared of the damage a bomber deals. The fact they disrupt your position is much more dangerous

[void hearth]

classic

[grave bobcat]

Instantly bursting my toughness is annoying

But I agree

[wise pecan]

I’d generally agree, but on Damnation they fuckin hurt

[void hearth]

best part is

[spiral remnant]

What’s the funny

[void hearth]

i dont even play vet

[void hearth]

it sets off ur antivirus

[spiral remnant]

Yah I got that

[wise pecan]

Oh I forgot flamers exist, throw them on the same tier as hounds

[void hearth]

thats the funny

[spiral remnant]

It not funny

[void hearth]

oops my bad I forgot im in the psyker channel

um um

[wise pecan]

It’s just a prank, bro. Why you so mad, bro

[spiral remnant]

What funny

[void hearth]

https://tenor.com/view/90s-angry-trippy-space-neon-gif-18510739

[cyan notch]

just block em he has nothing of worth saying

[void hearth]

if only they knew i was a lvl 30 pskyer on dt

am i right guys

[wise pecan]

(I hope my ‘bro’s were sufficiently sarcastic)

[void hearth]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-spongebob-alone-gif-13266819

i hate this class

[ebon jolt]

The real Psyker buff I want is 30s -> 25s cooldown on Psykinetic's Wrath.

[void hearth]

fat shark are terrible and they will eat and nurf us right guys

into the floor right guys

guys right

haha

[grave bobcat]

Curios can do that 🥲

[wanton sandal]

worth a cop?

[grave bobcat]

Wounds 😢

[wanton sandal]

wounds 😋

[grave bobcat]

gross

[remote tusk]

isnt toughtness regen bugged?

[simple junco]

Wounds is gut

[wanton sandal]

is it?

[wise pecan]

I always run one +wounds just to avoid the desaturation effect if I get downed

[simple junco]

At least 1

[ashen heath]

+3 wounds are nice

[grave bobcat]

Okay tbf, this is a real reason lol

[solar remnant]

If bugged in what way?

[ashen heath]

stack 3 +3 and it looks like you had your extra rations

[cyan notch]

if only you could disable that with mods like in vt2

[remote tusk]

not sure. someone here on chat said it "does not function as intended". Take with a grain of salt

[wise pecan]

Also, being able to get downed once safely while trying to fulfill grim contracts

[solar remnant]

I see, I'll keep an eye out when I run a curio with it

[wanton sandal]

sometimes you just get owned by the game and it's nice to have that extra wound for the double poxburster trapper flame special

[grave bobcat]

Ayy you can still get downed without any wounds 😛 but also why're you doing grims on Damnation? lol

[remote tusk]

it is nice to be able to take corruption damage and still have 2 revives left

[grave bobcat]

Actually tbf, I did get blown up by a burster doing grims on malice lmfao

[wise pecan]

I’m usually not, but things get close even on malice when there’s a long stretch between medicae

Like at the end of that desert map where you gotta turn off the transmission

[steady skiff]

what is the consensus on trauma force staff? is it any good? and if so what would be dump stat?

[wise pecan]

It’s not awful, but generates too much peril for its effect

[remote tusk]

trauma seems slightly subpar, but might get a damage buff soon. It has ardent fans though

and is really fun to use

[steady skiff]

cause i just got a 380 base with 60 in blast range and 79-80 in all others with warp flurry

[grave bobcat]

idk, I guess I just kinda feel like I deserve to die if I go down twice

[remote tusk]

Nice! Take it for a spin

[wise pecan]

Personally, I’ve tried trauma and just don’t like it. If it were a vacuum instead of an outwards push, then I’d be interested

[remote tusk]

player enjoyment is king

[wise pecan]

Indeed

[grave bobcat]

Not including times where like you can't do anything about it

[steady skiff]

ye first time i tried i didnt like it that much either but i didnt have a build for it and not a good staff either

[grave bobcat]

Like someone ressing me into a sniper that instantly kills me while I'm in the standing up animation 🥲

[wise pecan]

Oof lmao

[remote tusk]

Honestly I quite liked it with axe or duelling sword. Felt like playing a berserker with unlimited grenades

[steady skiff]

or ressing into a horde when you are on last wound and got no toughness left...

[grave bobcat]

THAT I can kinda manage

Instantly F and BB for toughness

[steady skiff]

not if i got the wrong char/setup

[grave bobcat]

Or hold block and dodge away

[wise pecan]

This one isn’t impossible, if you immediately make some distance. Gotta have peril block, tho

[steady skiff]

blocked by enemies behind

[grave bobcat]

I want to say if you've been downed, you more than likely have your F off cooldown lol

[wise pecan]

If I’m stuck in a horde, I just try to snowplow my way through it with force sword shoves

[steady skiff]

ye it was when i didnt have any luck with drops on that char yet...

[grave bobcat]

Yeah while shouldn't be getting surrounded in the first place, I just instantly try to cut a hole to get out with

And I don't use peril block so it's even easier to do with it

[remote tusk]

nothing quite like trying to res in a horde and forcefully be awakened to the reality that 5 shotgunners and a trapper are looking at you with hunger in their eyes

[wise pecan]

Hahahaha

[steady skiff]

i think it was also a horde that just got aout of stun from preacher nade at the right moment...

the preacher stunned ressed me and disappeared out of there lol

[grave bobcat]

I mean if you're thinking of a specific scenario you had 😛

[wise pecan]

The preacher did not have flammenwerfer? For shame

[peak agate]

Fellas, is it worth taking?

[grave bobcat]

Annoyingly I think yesterday 80% of my actual downs/deaths were Bursters -.-

[remote tusk]

days like that make me miss my surge

[steady skiff]

i think he did have the flammenwerfer but didnt have it reloaded or something but he might not have had at that run... dont remember...

[wise pecan]

Yesterday all of my deaths were self inflicted

Trying for Out With a Bang :~;

[grave bobcat]

Yeah I'm still doing melee only 🥲

But most of the time it's either they ignore my push/F or someone will just pop them in my face lol

Or one spawning on the door I am swingin my melee at and instnatly killing me lmfao

[steady skiff]

i shoved one right out of a buddies face today...

they were kissing already lol

[remote tusk]

you need help with that sometime? Heading to bed now, but it's much less painful in a team. Ogryn aggros elites and gathers them in a nice frothing pile for you

[grave bobcat]

I shoved one away from me fine yesterday, then Surge psyker pushes it back into me with the stun

For it to blow up directly on top of me -.-

[steady skiff]

ping pong

[remote tusk]

and they wonder why I love my surge staff

[grave bobcat]

I think I clipped it cause it was just like

[steady skiff]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-ping-pong-funny-animals-cats-gif-8766860

[grave bobcat]

"Why are you doing this to me"

[steady skiff]

aaaaaaaanyway getting late should head off aswell

cya guys

[remote tusk]

cya annatar

[wise pecan]

Yes, though if you’re going to bed now I suspect our schedules will not line up nicely

[grave bobcat]

Found it

[steady skiff]

liar

[grave bobcat]

Guess what happens right after 🥲

[remote tusk]

No worries. You can find helpful ogryns with more compatible schedules on the LFG groups

[steady skiff]

it didnt explode in your face

[wise pecan]

Nobody joins my games in LFG :(

[ebon jolt]

I already have 9% CDR. I want moooore.

[grave bobcat]

Oh it did, I just cut it there for comedic effect lmfao

[steady skiff]

ah

[grave bobcat]

I meant to cut it right as it was in my face

[ebon jolt]

I think it would help with both BB and AB gameplay.

[simple junco]

Huh, just saw 2 beasts of nurgle in the same place

[shut thorn]

Wow the annoying zealot is still here

[remote tusk]

BB via being able to use the ult 9% more often?

[tacit stirrup]

what is this icon

[shut thorn]

coherency

[tacit stirrup]

and is there a list of icons that i should know about

[grave bobcat]

I'm at 8% rn just need the plasteel to upg my curio then reroll whatever perrk I don't want lol

[tacit stirrup]

whats that

[drowsy fog]

Next mission mod is extra pox bursters

[shut thorn]

ppl r close together = buffs n stuff

[grave bobcat]

Would be kinda funny

[shut thorn]

doesnt exist :/

instead u get assault

[remote tusk]

seizure mod with triple SFX for less rewards

[shut thorn]

way more ammo

basically no medpacks

[grave bobcat]

"would"

[shut thorn]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1005249252030697592/1039582656779796521/Discord_KgF7O1jBdi.gif

there doesn't even seem to be a mutator to increase pox burster* spawns, though who knows, maybe that's what 'noir' will be

[drowsy fog]

Oh right they did mention assault

I was just bsing anyway

[shut thorn]

yeah the code for assault is basically

lmao heres a buncha ammo

no medpacks tho

hf

[keen belfry]

it will soon be time... we are upgrading the revolver...

[drowsy fog]

+hordes
+ammo
-healing

[shut thorn]

p much

[simple junco]

Inb4 the revolver gets 6 rounds

[shut thorn]

more

enemy ranged

[drowsy fog]

What do I need ammo for tho

[echo parrot]

Assuming I should roll the carapace because it already does barely anythign to those kinds of enemies?

[keen belfry]

revolvers?

[shut thorn]

idfk

[keen belfry]

i like that autopistol

[shut thorn]

is this actually viable

[grave bobcat]

brrrr

[echo parrot]

Yes

[keen belfry]

15% bb talent and unload the clip

[bleak sonnet]

hi guys i love darktide

[grave bobcat]

the recon lasgun also super fun to use like this too

[void hearth]

:3

[grave bobcat]

And the base crit on it is super high for whatever reason too so it crits almost every shot

[shut thorn]

Might run purg

Void has been fun for awhile, been seeing purg and combat blade

Seems p good

[keen belfry]

it was sooooo close..

[grave bobcat]

oof

[keen belfry]

that Gloryhunter needs to go..

[shut thorn]

Lol

[wise pecan]

Hm? Gloryhunter seems convenient

[shut thorn]

Tragic

[shut thorn]

You can get that amt by just switching to FS, doing QQ cancel charge to build peril and switching back

[keen belfry]

save it for when we can roll blessings off

[grave bobcat]

Hmm actually

It doesn't say anything about you having to kill the elite

[echo parrot]

Ill take that gloryhunter tyvm

[wise pecan]

Ah right I saw a gun and forgot this wasn’t vet/zealot chat

[keen belfry]

oh ur right..

wonder if thats anyone

[grave bobcat]

I wonder if that works passively

lo

[random wolf]

Stagger

[keen belfry]

right

[grave bobcat]

Or you can kil with your melee

[random wolf]

Thanks Melk. Useless as always.

[grave bobcat]

And it still procs

Cause that wouldn't be too bad then tbh

[keen belfry]

i will test it and let u guys know

would actualy be badass with deflector

if ur team is killing

[grave bobcat]

I hate testing touchness damage shit D:

It's so annoying to try and isolate something in a game lol

[shut thorn]

I can't believe that melk gave me Covenant Mk VIII Blaze Force Greatsword!!!

[wise pecan]

Yeah there really is no good way to test damage taken

[grave bobcat]

at least all he gotta do it have less than max toughness and melee an elite 😛

[keen belfry]

ya gonna test now

[shut thorn]

Whats up w the revolver builds anyw

If you're prepping it for gunslinger, that's kinda dumb

[grave bobcat]

Bonus points if you have 0 coherency and you turn off the level 5 traits which generate toughness 😛

[wise pecan]

Gunpsyker but even more Deranged

[grave bobcat]

Cowboy Psyker

[cyan notch]

that doesnt make sense why would you get toughness from teammates kills

[echo parrot]

Which of these should I roll?

[grave bobcat]

Big iron on his hip

[shut thorn]

Las pistol is better, you can actually fan the hammer

[keen belfry]

its the Mcree build

[native ember]

you get to say, "see how fast I can headpop this guy," and pull it out when they aren't looking

[cyan notch]

and why would using your melee to get kills proc a blessing on your not-melee weapon

[wise pecan]

Is… is this a joke? Can purgatus even hit weakpoints?

[grave bobcat]

Fan the hammer.. on a laser pistol?

[long wharf]

nope

[echo parrot]

Look at the name

[shut thorn]

i was abt to say ranged weak spot until I realized that's a void

[wise pecan]

Oooh voidstrike

[grave bobcat]

Why does Warp Nexus give crit for melee? 🙂

[wise pecan]

I’d still switch that one out

[shut thorn]

Problem?

[grave bobcat]

Some blessings leak into other things so its worth tyring

[cyan notch]

proof?

[grave bobcat]

No the point is that its a revolver

[grave bobcat]

Bruh go test it I alrdy know it works lol

This ONE time

I don't have a clip for it

[shut thorn]

Electrons roll around in the magazine when they're being fed

It's a revolver

[cyan notch]

how would you show warp nexus is giving you crits

[wise pecan]

When the surge staff user gives you a seizure while you’re finger’s on the trigger

[grave bobcat]

I'm sure you can figure it out

[keen belfry]

It works

[grave bobcat]

On melee elite kill?

[keen belfry]

8-9 points of toughness on elite kill

[shut thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/proof-nerd-gif-25901556

[keen belfry]

anyone

[grave bobcat]

thats normal

Melee toughnesg en

I think

[pure peak]

Btw

[keen belfry]

dont know how to prove it other then jumping in a channel, but i can tell you my team is pissed at me

[pure peak]

is it better to have more cloud or damage for purge staff

[shut thorn]

one more stack

[pure peak]

stack?

[shut thorn]

oh

[drowsy fog]

More cloud

[shut thorn]

i misread

thought u wrote one more cloud

no

[pure peak]

[shut thorn]

idk

go check v

[pure peak]

So more cloud?

[shut thorn]

i dont think it affects stack count(?)

[drowsy fog]

Yes more cloud

[shut thorn]

but im prob wrong

[grave bobcat]

I mean you can clip it, but remember melee kills give you toughness by default 😛

[pure peak]

wat the heck is cloud anyways

[keen belfry]

this was done without swining

[shut thorn]

press V

and find out

[drowsy fog]

Size of the flames

[keen belfry]

swinging

[coarse ether]

does the "Kinetic Shield" actually work? I had 55% gunner resistance and 6 warp charges in that situation. but still the shot gunner deals a lot of damage to me. it was heresy difficulty

[pure peak]

k ty

[grave bobcat]

Oh.

[shut thorn]

wtf am i looking at

[long wharf]

for purge, burn affects how many stacks of soulblaze it can stack

[grave bobcat]

That could be... pretty good for how I usually play....

[long wharf]

you can see this if you inspect the weapon and hover over the burn modifier

[grave bobcat]

Looks like I need to try it mysefl

[pure peak]

Thank you for ur help.

[keen belfry]

trying to see if i can clip...

[shut thorn]

gunner resist doesnt affect shotgunners

it affects.. gunners, yknow, machinegunners

[coarse ether]

oh

[fringe garden]

What's the maximum block efficiency on a curio?

[coarse ether]

thanks i didn't know that

[ebon jolt]

12%

[shut thorn]

shotgunners are shocktroopers anyw

[keen belfry]

k i think i can clip it

[grave bobcat]

10% is the highest I've sen

[cyan notch]

its 12

[fringe garden]

Can you get higher than 10 on a refine?

[grave bobcat]

Show screenshot I wanna see

Cause i've never had it 😦

[wise pecan]

I’ve never gotten it to roll above 10, though mathematically it seems like it could get 12

[keen belfry]

i will check mine i think i have a 12

[grave bobcat]

ty

[cyan notch]

ofc u can

[unique barn]

why is the sharpshooter channel full of idiots?

[drowsy fog]

Pretty sure I also have a 12 but I'm not at home so I can't check

[grave bobcat]

Same in this channel too

[grave bobcat]

Noice

[cyan notch]

first thing i rolled

[wise pecan]

We’re gamers, we’re all idiots

[unique barn]

naw

[edgy spear]

hey, im new to leveling psyker, what are decent blessings on staffs?

[drowsy fog]

Depends on the staff

[tacit stirrup]

Playing with bots is really brutal, is there a way to not start a game until the party is full?

[edgy spear]

transfer peril on a voidstrike force staff

[grave bobcat]

Wait

[drowsy fog]

Back out of the lobby and redo matchmaking

[drowsy fog]

10/10 blessing

[tacit stirrup]

that really the only way?

[grave bobcat]

that works also

[edgy spear]

it seemed way better than sustained fire

[drowsy fog]

Otherwise the mission clock will force you in with bots

[cyan notch]

just sit in the mission afk until people join

backing out when youre at the mission countdown is bad bc you will have to go through loading screens and have to run all the way up to the mission terminal again

[grave bobcat]

If only the loading screens weren't so long... they feel like a punishment lmao

[solar remnant]

Ya that's the best way, usually get a random join sitting around for about 5 minutes

[keen belfry]

@grave bobcat This team is so mad at me for trying to get this clip i am surprised they have not kicked me

It appears to be working check it out urself

[solar remnant]

Usually only have to do it when I play really late and most people are asleep lol

[grave bobcat]

I would if I had the blessing 😛

[wise pecan]

My strat is to cancel matchmaking if I don’t join into a mission within ~5-10 seconds of matchmaking

No loading screen

[ashen cape]

I almost got the brain burst a boss penance

But some zealot said fuck you in vc and killed the demon host with fire ;-;

[grave bobcat]

I do this just to dodge the loading screen

Or I just queue

then go piss or something

[tacit stirrup]

kinda wish it had a lobby system or something

[shut thorn]

Yet they wonder why they're on the bottom of content priority

[tacit stirrup]

what was it like in vermintide?

[eternal hinge]

VT2 had a lobby browser

[ashen cape]

I've tried that penance 4 times now, each time with a daemon host, with an ogryn with a shield. Every time, everyone's on board to do it, except the zealot, who inevitably lights it on fire

[shut thorn]

typical

It's funny that they're even complaining about crusher maul, despite it being gr8 for horde clear

[ashen cape]

The dude is like, "it's not that much damage"

I've played alot of zealot. Fire absolutely DESTROYS bosses. Lighting them on fire basically damages them till death. There's been times I light a boss on fire, then went and killed other things while my team handles the boss and I still get the kill on it

[fringe remnant]

Has. Its not dead, arguably the best its ever been

[eternal hinge]

ok

[ashen cape]

Fire is arguably the fastest way to kill any boss

[wise pecan]

Holy promethium purges the unclean

[ashen cape]

Very effectively at that

I once was able to kill a plague ogryn in 10 seconds with a flamer, it does amazing damage

[grave bobcat]

Tfw you grind Sedition lmao

[long wharf]

I think soulblaze damage ought to be more on par with the flamer

[shut thorn]

plasteel pain

[ashen cape]

Yeah I do too

[long wharf]

even half the damage burn stacks do would be a significant increase to existing soulblaze damage

[cyan notch]

how much is a burn stack compared to soulblaze

[long wharf]

single burn stack is 25 damage, I think

1 soulblaze stack is 2

[drowsy fog]

What a shit head

[long wharf]

you're best bet is to find people willing to help each other do penances specifically

[simple junco]

So it takes about 1.5 seconds for Purg to match flamer DoT?

[long wharf]

you really can't rely on pugs

soulblaze stack damage isn't an equation/curve

[simple junco]

There's an application rate and increased gain based on stacks, why isn't it a curve lol

[long wharf]

it goes something like 2,5,12,25,xxx

because the values don't follow a curve across the total stacks

it's not linear

it's not geometric

it's not a clean curve

[ashen cape]

I have no friends who can play with me

Most people in pubs seems nice and will help you out if the situation is good, but

For instance I play alot of ogryn, and I've personally helped 3 psychers get their brain burst penance done

[simple junco]

Curvaceous, perhaps?

[mint heart]

Worth trying to upgrade this thing?

[drowsy fog]

When I get home I'm about to put on a non force melee and tank every demon I see

[wise pecan]

Soulblaze lookin thicc

Juicy

[cyan notch]

if u have the mats and dont have deflector yet sure go for it

[mint heart]

Thats the best I got with Deflector

To be honest the damage stats almost seem irrelevent on the force sword

[wise pecan]

I think damage still affects the special

[mint heart]

Between those two weapons the damage difference is about 20 dmg

kinda meh

[prime sluice]

This sword any good?

[ashen cape]

Is the force sword even any good?

[prime sluice]

Idk, which is why I asked

[mint heart]

Yeah I also feel like the force sword just sucks

[prime sluice]

kk ty

[covert cosmos]

it's good with deflector

let's you block ranged attacks

not super great offensively though

[eternal hinge]

feels like it's just in a really awkward spot where it doesn't do anything well

[sonic aspen]

you can pry my combat axe mk v from my cold dead hands

[ashen cape]

I want a combat axe

[eternal hinge]

the special is basically just a chainsword's activation but it gives you peril

[mint heart]

yeah if I had a good one with brutal momentum

[covert cosmos]

it's top tier at keeping you alive with peril block+deflector

good shove too

i'm personally not a fan but it's definitely good at something

[mint heart]

On damnation it just gets shoot up really quick, or I slow waddle my ass to some shooty bois which don't care that I'm in their face pushing and just destroy me

And for melee blocking any other melee weapon is better with kinetic deflector since you lose your peril way faster

I think I just gonna start playing with this thing and call it a day. Fucking psyker is getting annoying.

[eternal hinge]

yeah . . .

[scenic tapir]

Considering dropping the Carapace Armour damage, thoughts?

[mint heart]

Would go with crit chance probably.

Or unarmored enemies if you get a breakpoint

against dregs

[scenic tapir]

Yeah I mean the carapace damage is so low already, I don't think it's gonna matter

[mint heart]

If you had uncanny strikes carapace would be pretty good I guess

[sacred lodge]

so if I were to dedicate my build to brainburst so I can be decent special and elite clear (I know I could just use force sword special, but often the specials are really far away and shooters are a PITA), what would be the best supporting staff and melee?

[scenic tapir]

Don't dedicate your build to brainburst, is the short answer to that entire question. Voidstrike is the choice though.

[mint heart]

If I feel like pure support I would go Duelling Sword MkIV and Surge Staff. But better not dedicating to brain burst at all.

[simple junco]

BB builds are pretty handy for T5 sometimes

Depends on your staff though

[scenic tapir]

I play mostly T5 and I use BB as utility or to contribute to anti-shooter efforts, since I use purgatus

[sacred lodge]

the reason I'm talking about this is that I've noticed what usually causes a wipe is either
a firing squad of shooters taking potshots at us
or the three bombers from halfway across the room turning the place into Hell

so I figured I might try to find a build that can be "alright, that bomber is deleted, and that firing squad just got blown up, problem solved"

[cyan notch]

use surge

[mint heart]

Yeah same, Purgatus with some hard hitting melee weapon. BB just to insta kill snipers/bombers/gunners

[sacred lodge]

everyone else usually has a good horde clear and/or good single target damage, but I've seen almost no one go after shooters until they've basically turned into an entire regiment

[mossy garnet]

quell bug still there?

[scenic tapir]

I'm about to try Trauma once I get one upgraded, but my gear doesn't roll very high in general.

[cyan notch]

yes

[scenic tapir]

Quell bug still there yah

[mossy garnet]

neat

[sacred lodge]

I am still trying to figure out how the heck psyker works, but I feel like I'm close to a breakthrough of being able to complete heresy on the regular

damnation is still just pure luck, and frankly the other members carrying me

...hmm... maybe the problem ISN'T the build, it's my SKILL...

[mint heart]

Tried it with this one...

Not really impressed compared to purgatus or void

Not sure if the rending blessing is worth a damn but getting that one is deflector all over again for me

[sacred lodge]

but hey, good news; trying out that brain burst build?
I finally got the pick n mix penance. by complete accident, I was just like "ok, there's a dog, a few flamers, lots of gunners and shotgunners-- wait, I got the penance???"

[scenic tapir]

I have a couple with good traits but I feel like the aoe needs to scale 15% larger

[mint heart]

That's nice, I struggled pre-patch with it for like 5 hours. Worst penance in the game

[sacred lodge]

yeah, post patch it's still a bitch, in fact arguably worse because of the quell bug

but SOMEHOW I got it

[mint heart]

I feel like the actual radius doing proper damage is way to small.

It's just a lot of throwing trash around and annoying your melee teammates

[drowsy fog]

Make trauma suck enemies in

[scenic tapir]

I'd rather it just slam them down like a gravity well

Like a fist from above or something

Can be the same stagger weight as BB

[mint heart]

I would be happy if enemies would be at least thrown away from you and not in all directions

[scenic tapir]

I loved Conflag in VT but that was a different game

[sacred lodge]

I love the animation for trauma though
makes me feel like I'm planting a banner or like tapping it against the floor as a rallying cry

[cyan notch]

conflag had better aiming better range and applied dot

and didnt generate 5 billion overcharge

[sacred lodge]

I thought the trauma staff was supposed to apply to the enemies, not the person using the damn thing

[cyan notch]

thats surge rn

[mint heart]

Most annoying "patch" ever lol.

[cyan notch]

be grateful, we got a force sword special vfx update

[mint heart]

Yes absolutely and they even randomly lost the thunder hammer buffs. Didn't need them anyway things op as is /s

[shut thorn]

Yknow, when I said zealot is better at carrying

I was wrong

[simple junco]

Zealot is great for pubs

[shut thorn]

I really don't know how a zealot would deal with 5 gunners and 2 reapers

But it's completely doable w/ FS def

[indigo plank]

Flashbang the reapers and pray you can close the distance on the shotgunners T—T

[cyan notch]

they stealth nerfed fs blocking too now theres more vfx sparks and shit from your hand making it even harder to see wtf is on your screen

[shut thorn]

gunner = machinegunner

shotgun dude is shocktrooper

[indigo plank]

Oh in that case

Die

Unless using a knife, then you just die last

[simple junco]

idk, when I play zealot I tend to have to run bolter/crusher

[indigo plank]

Lots of zealots are hesitant to put down the flamer but brautogun bangs

[shut thorn]

Also speaking of which, I don't get the complaints abt crusher

It's perfectly viable

[simple junco]

Crusher is great tbh

[mint heart]

You got bleed build and just charge them to death

[shut thorn]

On t5.......?

[mint heart]

Yes

[shut thorn]

Idk I bb'd the gunners to death then the reapers, was only able to survive because of fs def

Horde was w/e since ab just deletes it

[mint heart]

Stun nade + MGXII + double charge gives you immortality

Just keep special attacking

Pretty much carry anything solo

[simple junco]

Like true immortality?

I think I'm a bit lost when it comes to higher tier zealot builds

[shut thorn]

They're not going to miss just because you run fast

[mint heart]

No lol, but enough immortality to survive anything with a bit of skill

[simple junco]

So like, what's the battle rotation?

[ivory marsh]

they will miss when u spamming slide

[shut thorn]

It was the shitty desert map, when you go up the like tiny houses n stuff on the side

[mint heart]

yes here is the winning answer

[shut thorn]

And idk how a zealot wudve dealt w/ the horde that I just ab'd out of existence

[mint heart]

like the rotations with the eviserator or what do you mean?

[shut thorn]

Maybe I'm just bad at zealot, probably am

Idk how I would've done that on zealot

[mint heart]

You can kill pretty much any sized horde in melee with the eviserator and pretty fast at that

[ivory marsh]

ab?

[shut thorn]

ascendant blaze, press F to incinerate

[cyan notch]

its harder to clutch in darktide cuz of all the ranged spam + mutants

in vt2 all you had to do was handle a mixed horde + dodge and kill specials

[mint heart]

If you specialize in horde clear then zealot is again the absolute winner with the flamer

bugged ult which ignores all armor + flamer

[shut thorn]

But I wasn't specialized in horde clear, I was running void and fs w/ def

Like idgi

Idk how I wudve done that on zealot, the reapers would've prob killed me if I tried to go for the gunner squad

[ivory marsh]

stun grenade gunner squad

rush to gunner squad

dice em up

or just find cover to LOS gunners

and deal with horde

you got options

[shut thorn]

It was the area on the desert map where you go up the houses and stuff to a really open area that has a tiny tunnel inbetween two sections

[ivory marsh]

i mean i can say the same thing about psyker

what happens when you press f and the horde just keeps coming

[shut thorn]

I have a void strike

I have infinite push

[ivory marsh]

everyone has infinite push

[shut thorn]

In the sense that I can still block regardless

I'm just saying, idk how I wud've done that on zealot

Probably would've failed

[mint heart]

same as you would have done with a veteran

[cyan notch]

kite em back or something

[mint heart]

you play the MGXII and shoot them

[shut thorn]

So, press alt f4?

[ivory marsh]

idk you just kill the horde.

zealot has one of the best traits for that kinda situation

even if your weapon choice is buns

it just means you'll kill the horde a bit slower. but you'll still kill them

[mint heart]

Arguing veteran and zealot is bad lel, get a load of this guy

[shut thorn]

I'm not though

Why are you so offended

[reef imp]

I loooooove my deflector sword but the emperor has tempted me with a nice dueling sword...hmmm....

[mint heart]

Because multiple people are giving solutions and you just repeat "how would I have ever done this with zealot"

[dim silo]

https://tenor.com/view/homer-simpson-homer-dance-gif-23875943

[shut thorn]

I said Idk if I could've instead of whatever you're trying to imply lol

Stop being so aggressive

[mental rock]

duelling sword is quite fun

[ivory marsh]

also if things are lined up nice and tight void strike is gonna seem pretty good

[cyan notch]

no use fs

[ivory marsh]

thats just by nature of the weapon

[teal cargo]

Dueling sword nice

[mental rock]

you dont need to deflect projectiles if you dodge them kek

[shut thorn]

I've been liking combat blade a lot, might try DS again next

[supple skiff]

https://prnt.sc/ISXispGcOOM3 interesting peice from the milk man

[shut thorn]

unless that is ur first semi decent deflector, I wouldn't

[reef imp]

I just love the mobility on it, I feel so zippy.

[teal cargo]

you just don't 👀

[supple skiff]

nah im not getting it

[jaunty moth]

id buy it

[shut thorn]

it seems to be 2.4k or smth

or 2.1

[cyan notch]

get it

[supple skiff]

just surprised that both perks work with both blessings

[teal cargo]

honestly on Psyker too you pretty much just don't cos that'll overload your peril immediately ☠️

[placid glen]

Does it happed to you too while doing the 90% monster dmg thing, taht some players just shoot it, because they "forgott" you asked then not to do and why ?

[shut thorn]

was it a zealot

[teal cargo]

unless you can like corner camp and BB

[simple junco]

It's kinda your job to take care of those as a psyker as well, def helps to run KB on T5 for it

[placid glen]

yes

[shut thorn]

Wow I wonder how I guessed that!

[teal cargo]

nah its mainly vets job for Gunners

[shut thorn]

They're doing it on purpose

[placid glen]

already a meme ?

[ivory marsh]

most people play this game stoned out of their gourd

dont expect much

[teal cargo]

They got the invisibiilty or 75% ranged DR

so best at dueling enemy shooters

[simple junco]

Ehhh you also have an infinite ammo long range oneshot for anything outside of their effective range

[teal cargo]

but gunners are gonna be in their effectvie range

for trappers and snipers sure

[shut thorn]

vet cudve prob done it too

I just doubt I can do it on a zealot

Prob gonna mess up

[teal cargo]

yea Zealots kinda sketch

☠️

[simple junco]

Yeah no, zealot can't reasonably take care of those threats all the time

[teal cargo]

if they bunched up you can charge them

but if spread out gonna get mowed down

[simple junco]

It's kind of a pissing match between psykers and vets to take care of elites and specials

[shut thorn]

it's that area on the desert map where you go up, there's a monstoristy spawn right there usually, then you go through a tiny like pipe tunnel thing

[ivory marsh]

one of them is actually good at it

[teal cargo]

👀

Vets have a lot higher dmg

so generally role goes to them

Psyker just stuns em

[wise pecan]

lmao

[shut thorn]

pre patch psyker surge 20ms dmg tho

[simple junco]

If your vet is running plasma/bolter? absolutely lol

[shut thorn]

2k in like what, 80ms?

lol

[simple junco]

But vets really gotta take care of ranged trash as well

[wise pecan]

lmfao

[teal cargo]

bolters still good at handling gunners and reapers

[strange bone]

[teal cargo]

not so much the crappy shooters though

[shut thorn]

fuuuck

actually

[simple junco]

Yeahh this is the downside of having a plasma/bolter vet

[shut thorn]

i wudnt have

bought that

[teal cargo]

idk whats plasma good for over Bolter tbh 🤔

[simple junco]

Either they take care of the ranged trash or elites

(I prefer they take care of ranged trash and I take care of hordes)

[teal cargo]

but i mean reapers still get mowed down by Bolters

[strange bone]

https://tenor.com/view/rock-one-eyebrow-raised-rock-staring-the-rock-gif-22113367

[shut thorn]

looks cool, gets u psyker gear

[shut thorn]

low first target, low warp res, low dmg

also executor

idrc abt

slaughterer/bloodsomething is better

was it bloodrush or bloodlust

i forgot

The thing that makes fs crit for free if u special attack smth

[ornate hamlet]

i got da cliffhanger pennance

[teal cargo]

nice

👀

[shut thorn]

nice now do the steam achievement for 20

[ornate hamlet]

ffff

[strange bone]

ya ok but

my force sword is 357

it's uh

alot higher than that

[shut thorn]

idk its melk coins, throw them away if u rlly want to

i rlly wouldnt

atleast not until FGS gets put into the weapon store

FGS is prob gonna be psyker's BIS horde clear melee

since it uses eviscerator's sweep box rn

[fringe garden]

Do we know for sure FGS is coming?

[cyan notch]

no

[shut thorn]

yes

its named, has icons, etc

its in a trailer thing too

[fringe garden]

I guess we just dont have any idea of when

[shut thorn]

.

[analog meteor]

purgatus staff should shoot the bolt of the other staves but it should be on fire too, convince me otherwise

[cyan notch]

i dont believe it

[shut thorn]

current purgatus lmb can stun daemonhost

[cyan notch]

its not 100% guaranteed

[fringe garden]

I think you're arguing just to argue here

[analog meteor]

easiest tip of my life

[shut thorn]

look at the pics, there's files, you can search for "Covenant Mk VIII Blaze Force Greatsword" on this disc too, I wasn't the one who found the name for it, someone else dug further

[covert cosmos]

finally took gun psyker into damnation

[cyan notch]

no i still dont see that as 100% proof its coming

[shut thorn]

I saw what you edited

Stop trolling

[covert cosmos]

its fucked up that i can comfortably unload on a couple of ranged trash mobs trying to unload on me

[shut thorn]

😎

[covert cosmos]

while my poor zealot in the same situation would be rolling on the floor in pain

[cyan notch]

so are the other marks of weapons also "for sure" coming out then

[shut thorn]

force swords?

regular ones

[fringe garden]

Don't engage the guy

[analog meteor]

well yeah there's never a 100% chance of anything happening

[shut thorn]

yeah, they're in the item system already, "ready for release"

Well, mk 1 is

[analog meteor]

but I would love myself a force greatsword

[cyan notch]

sure thats why u dont use absolute terms like "for sure"

[ornate hamlet]

it’s not for sure coming bloods right

u can’t say a placeholder name means omg GFS next month

they could have 10 placeholder map names somewhere in their spaghetti code, doesn’t mean they are “absolutely for sure arriving”

[fringe garden]

Okay, cool, moving on to anything more interesting than this wank of a conversation

We definitely do need some better melee options

[wise pecan]

i think the steam achievement is linked to the in-game penance? unless i actually somehow got 13 more enemies than i needed to on my attempt

[shut thorn]

shame, I got the 20

Oh well

It's nice that it's easier

Now they should make going out w a bang and pick n mix easier so you have less psykers sabotaging tbh

[fringe garden]

lol, had a psyker trying for a bunch of penances earlier. They were so oblivious to how annoyed everyone else was

[ornate hamlet]

it would be great if they allowed all those people to load into private matches by themselves as well

but you need 2 people to start one? what a stupid implement

[hollow bronze]

just got malleus monstrorum and saved the game twice in the same game nice team tho, but still fuck that penance

[drowsy fog]

Fuck psyker penances in general

[ornate hamlet]

they’re literally just bad

[wise pecan]

pick n mix and malleus monstronum aren't that bad if you can get a team (pick n mix especially, since it only really asks for one other player)

[ornate hamlet]

as in they encourage u to throw

[wise pecan]

out with a bang is the worst

[drowsy fog]

They encourage bad play or unreasonable precision

[ornate hamlet]

malleus actively wants your team to avoid a boss. out with a bang actively wants your team to ignore elites/specialists and suicide

[drowsy fog]

/luck

[ornate hamlet]

Pick n mix actively wants your team to avoid elites/specials

[hollow bronze]

Fuck "psyker" penances? fuck all penances most are shit and force you to play like a mong

[ornate hamlet]

all of them involve avoiding targets you don’t want to avoid

[wanton sandal]

i managed to get some randoms to help out with it. i aggro'd the boss on the bridge mission and ran around like a madman bbing it while they fended off the horde

the penances are real annoying tho

[ornate hamlet]

yeah same I just asked and got them all eventually

but they are bad

[cyan notch]

on damnation you can reasonably get this one with normal gameplay imo

[wanton sandal]

they all want you to actively work against your team, like zealots staying at death's door the entire mission, or ogryns going wildly out of position to charge 40m, or vets not using their weapon at all unless they have a guaranteed shot

[ornate hamlet]

yeah

[strange bone]

force greatsword?

[ornate hamlet]

all off the class specific penances encourage selfish play, but for some reason you can’t join solo lobbies. you need 1 extra person for a private match

[strange bone]

[hollow bronze]

"just a flesh wound" is awful most maps cant do it so you just have to wait for the maps to pop up and then you have to rush the map

[cyan notch]

gamepass people probably can lmao

[wanton sandal]

everytime i have zealots try that penance, its on some disruption/repair mission and it gets iwped

[ornate hamlet]

lolol

[hollow bronze]

@wanton sandal i did mine on The Hourglass i think about 18 min

[simple junco]

Force knife

[strange bone]

[hollow bronze]

best map for it, no hacking obj or waiting

[strange bone]

force knife sounds infinitely less badass than a force greatsword

[simple junco]

Force scalpel

[strange bone]

fucking force trowel

i need to tend to my garden

pardon me a moment

give me force greatsword

I want to decapitate mutants in one swing

[simple junco]

Force katana, just be Raiden

[ornate hamlet]

fgs december, 2023

[fallow meadow]

I only want a force fork.

[strange bone]

if you're gonna give me a tiny force dagger thing make it a force dart so i can yondu that shit through heretics' heads

[shut thorn]

yes

[simple junco]

I think force dart is actually gonna be a thing though

[shut thorn]

so... biomancer/gunslinger/whatever it gets called in the end

[strange bone]

gotta force this dart

[simple junco]

brb forcing knife

Forced in fire

[night marten]

I would be down for a force dart/knife

[shut thorn]

psyker career_01 has a throwing knife instead of brainburst

it throws w/ true flight aka "physics" but homes in on heads

[strange bone]

i like brainburst tho

that do be sounding cool tho

hmmmmmmmm

we'll see

so long as i get to pinch sniper's heads off across the map im happy

oh dearie me 'pears i have a headache

explodes

[simple junco]

"By jove my head seems to be popping, my dear"

[strange bone]

average nurgle cultist

when brainbursted

[simple junco]

"Bit odd innit"

bursts

[strange bone]

"Ye heads glowin a bit innit?"
"Dont be stchewpid, i ain't got any bone'ead in me!"

splodes

[fringe remnant]

i recently switched from a full lvl 30 burn build with yellow weapons over to a white axe and a gun. Felt like a significant jump in power level

[left mirage]

mk5 axe is goated

mk 5 axe with momentum is probably going to get nerfed if they buff the rest of psyker

[fringe remnant]

it seems like the whole meme of psyker being crowd control is just not nessecary. preacher and sharpshooter just don't need someone doing crowd control for them, much more useful to actually be killing things

[summer surge]

i mean the best cc is death so

[left mirage]

ye, swapped off surge cuz it didnt feel as good as purge/voidstrke

[summer surge]

not wrong

[left mirage]

like yeah, i stun the fuck out of muties and hounds

but i stop being able to do that when shit hits the fan (eg hordes and whatnot)

because of the fuckin 8 man limit

so would rather bring purge for slightly less cc but more horde control

or voidstrike to just bowling ball hordes

[cyan notch]

surge is really good when theres multiple targets that dont go down easily like oryns