psyker-class

[sharp ibex]

Do you think naming schemes like that are either early phase ideas or just to throw off mining

[echo parrot]

Fucking lul

[shut thorn]

early

biomancer was gonna be centered around souls heavily

later on souls just became warp charges

[south monolith]

My dreams of Sharpshooter:Melee are crushed

[echo parrot]

I want to play som ewhen I get home but I feel like ill start to get sick again from surge vfx

[lucid mortar]

When a blessing says " up to +2% power..." what does power equal exactly, damage?

[mild canopy]

holy fking hell, cant find any good vets even in heresy

they dont use F ability i dont understand

[shut thorn]

heresy is penance hell

go to t5

its easier

Also

For the ppl still unaware

Uses some eviscerator code

[spiral wagon]

What's that?

[shut thorn]

forcesword, 2 handed

A debug file for one

[lucid mortar]

hackermans weapons

[shut thorn]

It either means A) We will get one B) Already cut (worst ending)

All the debug stuff is for psyker

Psyker has the most code out of any char in the game

And had most additions since preorder beta data

[wise pecan]

Power is power. Assuming it works like in vermintide 2, it’s it’s own stat, and affects basically everything: damage, cleave, damage taken, enemy stagger

[lucid mortar]

oh interesting, so it's better than just dmg, that's good to know

[wise pecan]

Ye, but +12% power may not correlate to 12% more damage

[lucid mortar]

is there UI that I missed in Darktide that explains power? or did they fattshark us on that

[wise pecan]

I think power has always been hidden

[lucid mortar]

gotcha

"this blessing does good stuff, we promise"

[wise pecan]

See also: rending, impact, brittleness…

[shut thorn]

I could probably dig it up.. But will I?

[lucid mortar]

fair and true lol

[shut thorn]

Ngl it's prob inaccessible

[spiral wagon]

I thought Power was the rating of the item

Which i thought is responsible for scaling the weapon's damage

[wise pecan]

I believe the ratings of your items affect your overall power, and determine your unmodified default when heading into a mission

[spiral wagon]

Cool

So I've developed a 'battle psyker' playstyle, after not being super keen on staves. Force swort, heavy laspistol, with feats & blessings to help generate toughness. Is this something or something similar that anyone else has done for Psyker?

[wise pecan]

One thing that I’ve noticed is that it seems your power isn’t accurately represented in the psykanium?

Because, in testing for breakpoints and such, I was very particular about getting a certain weapon to one-shot enemies in Damnation, and succeeded at that in the psykanium… but then went into a damnation game, and those same enemies were not getting oneshot

[spiral wagon]

Yeah I thought the same, headshots feel weaker on a map & it feels like it takes more swings to down an enemy. I can't speak for damnation, but heresy it's also noticeable

[south monolith]

Some attacks don't match the chart. I can't reverse engineer charged voidstrike attacks and have it match the chart.

[shut thorn]

lol

[steel flame]

BURN THE WITCH

[surreal frigate]

“Promethium bait”

[echo parrot]

Hot take, but I really like the flow of the autopistol. It is just unfortunate that it lags behind even with my 378 one on my psyker and my 373 one on my vet.

[shut thorn]

It's from the streamed data

[echo parrot]

Lets me play fast

[shut thorn]

Daemonhost spawns are called 'witches'

[echo parrot]

Of fucking course they are lol

[shut thorn]

But the object itself is "daemonhost"

[steel flame]

L4d PTSD intensives

[idle bay]

Being able to tank Deamonhost came in handy few times today. If there is a Bot in the Team - he will highly likely trigger it. So pulling and tanking it - is a good option. Also counts for weekly Monsters

[shut thorn]

Called it, laser bfg is krieg

[median falcon]

is there an LFG?

[idle bay]

Hotshot lasgun ?

[boreal wave]

I find damage to just be really weird in general. Been trying to see if I can get the surge to reliable one-shot chaff in Heresy/Damnation and the damage done to those targets never seems to line up with what the damage values say in the attack view screen

[shut thorn]

Um that's worrying

There's an assassination boss with a bolter

[wise pecan]

Same

[steel flame]

I've found peril block force sword with it's unlimited dodges does decent at tanking hosts. Not that I ever want to tank a host with anything other than slab shield

[shut thorn]

No, it's the krieg lasgun that's ingame

[idle bay]

Well at least not with Arc weapon or Volkite Blaster 🙂

[shut thorn]

We have plasma and shotgun already

Bolter is gonna be rough

[echo parrot]

Might have cut the boltgun because it was just too rough

[sonic aspen]

Please no chaos marine with a bolter

[shut thorn]

@peak jacinth Squad leader will likely use bots

Guess what I found

[sonic aspen]

I mean at times it feels like the assassination boss is using a bolter with the damage they do when they pull it out

[shut thorn]

And the squad leader buff stuff talks about linesmen 24/7

[manic needle]

I've said it before and I'll say it again, please no Space Marines of any faction

[shut thorn]

I find space marines dumb af

Never liked them

[manic needle]

Theyre cool but they so overdone its unreal

[shut thorn]

Probably going to get harassed for that opinion, owell

[manic needle]

Space Marines are a rarity and yet theyre also somehow in every 40k product ever

[shut thorn]

At-least I don't like units that look like fucking lego characters

💀

[sonic aspen]

the only way I want a space marine in our game is if it's an ultramarine being torn apart

[shut thorn]

Bots are literally set up to ignore bosses......

What the fuck

[wanton cove]

I like the different lore behind all of the chapters

[shut thorn]

I guess it makes sense for solo runs

[fluid knot]

Gun psyker is fun

[shut thorn]

Gunslinger exists in files

Also I think I just found a new enemy

Nevermind

I didn't

It's the corruption beetle thing

[fluid knot]

Oh shit, upcoming subclass?

[shut thorn]

Possibly

[fluid knot]

That'd be tight

[sonic aspen]

I still like to think the psyker starting with the revolver in the closed beta is because of the gunslinger

[shut thorn]

.

[shut thorn]

Probably

[lucid mortar]

time to shop for revolvers for 2026

[shut thorn]

[fresh reef]

how we lookin?

[candid galleon]

Explain

[shut thorn]

It's just the crashify thing lol

Darktide's internal project name is probably bishop

Well

It's been fun

[echo parrot]

.. surprisingly pretty good. Nicely done.

[shut thorn]

Jerma985 is gonna turn on the gas

[sonic aspen]

jerma is the gas

[shut thorn]

what's extra tickle I wonder

Assault is probably more assaulters (ranged)

Noir sounds spooky

[echo parrot]

That one has me interested

Too bad we will have to wait a year before seeing it

[shut thorn]

HAHAHA assault has no medpacks

oh my god

[echo parrot]

Another modifier for me to avoid I guess

[shut thorn]

it also

combines the

more specials

[sonic aspen]

wasn't that one of the conditions they removed from the patch notes?

[shut thorn]

and more hordes

aka hi intensity

[sonic aspen]

because they had issues

[shut thorn]

assault is hi intensity hardcore w/ no health pickups

and tons of ammo

noir has no code other than theme tag and some img

oh no

[echo parrot]

Seriously the rewards for the modifiers is not enough. I have enough dockets to camp the shop for months. More dockets is not going to incentivize me to go into pitbull mode damnation because it is the only damnation available.

[shut thorn]

extra trickle

more hounds and snipers

[sonic aspen]

so it's the hunting grounds ones

interesting

[shut thorn]

This is hounting grounds with more snipers

[shut thorn]

This is nurgle infestation which gives normal units nurgle's blessing(?) and gives grimoire effect 24/7

[lucid mortar]

what are the chances these are going to be used in a future streamer mode

[echo parrot]

Ah yes, a nurgle infestation on top of my nurgle infestation.

[shut thorn]

resistance changes

seems there's gonna be an ez mode

[sonic aspen]

if it goes one more layer of nurgle infestation our characters may spew from both ends

[shut thorn]

neat

so ventilation purge

spawns more snipers

darkness obv witches and 'encampments'(?)

[sharp ibex]

What we need is more bombers

Because that wouldn't be awful at all

[sonic aspen]

what we need is more cloakers

[echo parrot]

What we need is more

No thats it

Just more

[sharp ibex]

What we need

[mystic dome]

I NEED A MEDIC BAAAAG

[wise pecan]

What we def need is that one fat teleporting fuck from vermintide who spawns in those twisters

[shut thorn]

Grendyl has been found

😎

[sharp ibex]

God yes

[shut thorn]

Memeing, it's just a servitor

[mystic dome]

Im suprised they havent just put the chaos spawn ingame yet

[sonic aspen]

well we are missing one monster

[shut thorn]

interesting

[sonic aspen]

which I assume is the chaos spawn

[wise pecan]

As am I. It seems like they have most of the relevant code already, and it’s in the intro cutscene

[echo parrot]

Time to dig up some UI icons so we can see their face

[shut thorn]

I was joking

[echo parrot]

Quick, before fatshark realizes we have been digging too deep

[shut thorn]

It's just the servitor subtitles

Nothing more

Grendyl doesn't exist

[echo parrot]

How dare, I cant believe

[mystic dome]

The thing that i'm legit hoping for, is a leak of 2021 Darktide

[sonic aspen]

grendyl is nurgle

[mystic dome]

Like i wonder what it was like before it was delayed

[sonic aspen]

all along

[shut thorn]

Just so you guys know

We haven't seen the traitor captain cinematic

And the vox transmissions talk abt the traitor captain

[mystic dome]

the one from the tutorial cutscene?

[echo parrot]

I see

Good to know

[shut thorn]

no idea

[languid osprey]

Any news on the next update? Maybe for jan?

[shut thorn]

order of cutscenes

wait

[mystic dome]

If they're gonna attempt a story lmao it should probs be the captain from the intro

[shut thorn]

arent we only on

path of trust 6

[echo parrot]

In game voicelines also talk about a second hive city, and the npc always goes "dont go asking about things you shouldnt be asking about" mode.

[shut thorn]

Yeah

[sonic aspen]

seer psyker asks about it and melk says not to

[shut thorn]

We've only done path of trust 6

lol

There's 3 more

And a traitor captain intro

[tawny maple]

Current story is pretty much just "meeting the characters", a setup for the future I suppose

[languid osprey]

They gonna nerf psyker if you guys keep diggin on the files

Go to sharpshooter chat

[mystic dome]

Call the second hive city Ravensholme, attempting to start its mission opens the steam browser and puts half life 2 in your basket

[shut thorn]

Too bad, I'll spam their server with store requests then

[mystic dome]

bang done for story, you can put my check in the mail now fatshark

[echo parrot]

They can only take so much from us before we have nothing left to loose.

[finite ledge]

the path of trust as it is now is like an afterthought, they couldve just done achievements like 'level 10' level 20 and so on

[shut thorn]

There's cutscenes, 4 of which no one outside of fatshark* has seen

We're missing 3 path of trust cutscenes and 1 traitor captain scene

[finite ledge]

yeah but have you seen the cutscenes its a shame to even call them that

[languid osprey]

Cant have shit on detroit

[shut thorn]

Idc

It means there's more

[mystic dome]

if the next cutscene we get is another npc calling us bitches and telling us to make more friends and come back later what do we do then

[shut thorn]

We're still missing the mailbox functionality even though it's mostly there

And there's an npc near a bunch of letters and stuff

[languid osprey]

Mailbox? For what?

[mystic dome]

For the plot silly

[sonic aspen]

the mail box for mail

and pipe bombs

[mystic dome]

the mailbox has only one use

i want crude drawings from my ogryn sent to all my other characters

[languid osprey]

Brb texting daemon host gf 😍

[echo parrot]

Anyone else find it funny how they added the "You have been summoned" prompts before a Path of Trust cutscene in certain points?

Like the hanger one. It says you have been summoned there, but when you get their, Masozi just straight up asks why you are there and to come back when you are worth their time. Bitch you asked me to come here apparently.

[shut thorn]

reading messages and claiming rewards apparently

[mystic dome]

i wonder if they'll go the warframe route

[echo parrot]

Jesus how much did they gut

[mystic dome]

and have npc's leave messages and such

[shut thorn]

hahahaha melk hates

specific characters

[tawny maple]

"Here's your reward for being quiet on forums"

[echo parrot]

Like seriously I cant tell how much of this is stuff that was unfinished ot stuff that was cut and left in the files.

[tawny maple]

thats pretty cute actually

[mystic dome]

I wonder how much of this was half functional back in 2021 with the delay, and got trimmed just to get something finished and out the door

[echo parrot]

I wonder which psyker letters corespond to what personality, because I am female loner and he seems to respect me

[shut thorn]

fck zealots 😎

guys

[warped perch]

Wait what does this mean lol

[shut thorn]

purser??

bank or smth?

[tawny maple]

Savant - a, seer - b and loner - c I suppose

[shut thorn]

that's the meat grinder npc

[sonic aspen]

I just want 2 things

[warped perch]

No I meant what’s the likes and dislikes? How other characters react to yours?

[sonic aspen]

my psyker visor and the biomancer

where my psyker visor aaa

[shut thorn]

Yes

[shut thorn]

Sadly I don't know

[tawny maple]

Thats how Sefoni will react to your personality

[finite ledge]

its probably a b c downwards as it is in the selection menu

[echo parrot]

Hey guys wanna hear a funny joke?

Cadia

That is all

[shut thorn]

Guys we don't have a purser

[sonic aspen]

Sefoni will suck your soul out if she hates you

[shut thorn]

But there's an npc coded as purser

W/ voicelines

[mystic dome]

Female french psyker is the one he's nice to

[sonic aspen]

isn't the purser the premium shop lady?

[shut thorn]

Wait maybe purser is prem store

Fuck

[warped perch]

I’m just happy we got this outfit from the start

[shut thorn]

[echo parrot]

I would agree with you, if it was actually the jacket and not a cut off version of it

[warped perch]

I prefer the shorter version tbh

[sonic aspen]

yeah I was pretty sure she's the purser for Brahams I forget the Rouge traders name

[warped perch]

Does that make me a heretic

[sonic aspen]

the lady in the intro video

[echo parrot]

Its makes you somebody I wouldn't trust around my wardrobe

[mystic dome]

At this point i'm not sure the intro cutscene wasnt just a fever dream

as none of its in game yet

[shut thorn]

Welp that's some files I'm not gonna share

[warped perch]

I think it looks good

[sonic aspen]

he found the files on hadron

get him

[tawny maple]

Bit of a waste to not use the good fabric physics they have thought

[mystic dome]

Look psyker boy you peer beyond the veil, you share with the rest of the class

[echo parrot]

We are softdev siblings, surely you can PM me. 🥺

[shut thorn]

zealot has highest dodge range

[shut thorn]

No cuz it has an url

[echo parrot]

wha

[shut thorn]

Nothing special just a way to annoy the shit out of them

Not going to share it

[echo parrot]

Fair enough

[warped perch]

I wonder why some would like and dislike. Like was not expecting some zealots to like a psyker

[warped perch]

You wouldn’t be able to see it anyway with the surge staff 😂

[shut thorn]

thats the npcs reacting to your char

not the other way around

[warped perch]

Oh I thought it was other party members reactions

[shut thorn]

Hmm

Is a shocktrooper in the game as an enemy

With grenades and a gun

I haven't met one if it is

[burnt python]

bomber is the only enemy w/ nades

[mystic dome]

Watch that be the new special mode

all gunner enemies now use grenades like bombers

[sonic aspen]

shocktrooper literally just turns out to be a cloaker

https://tenor.com/view/cloaker-gif-26386825

[mystic dome]

I aint gonna lie, if PD2 had a 40k dlc come out i'd play the shit out of it

[shut thorn]

There's environmental "gas" hazards and there's also a gas "modifier"

Probably cut

[mystic dome]

GUYS THE SERVO SKULL

[shut thorn]

Sounds annoying

[mystic dome]

GO GET IT

[sonic aspen]

it's only when there is 3 ogryns obviously

and they just had lunch

[warped perch]

The music for the servo skull scanning mission scares me

[mystic dome]

Have a mission where you break into the premium shop and have to steal items

[shut thorn]

ngl vets would be raving abt this if they weren't

busy

obsessing over piss in their chat

[warped perch]

LMAO

[shut thorn]

like genuinely wtf are they doing

[mystic dome]

krak matches what was being shown for the squad leader class

as thats meant to be their grenade

[shut thorn]

hold on

minions can use

thunder hammers and power swords

I'm guessing this is the renegade captain

Yes it is

[mystic dome]

minions get mentioned a lot for squad leaders too

[burnt python]

what if "minions" are just the non-vet players

[mystic dome]

explains why bot ai is so dogshit

its balanced around 4 squad vets going into damnation with 16 dudes in a party

[sonic aspen]

"Come my minions" sound like a psyker line tbh

[shut thorn]

Yeah about psyker subclasses not coming out first

[sharp ibex]

Oh god Naruto class

[mystic dome]

throwing knives would make more sense for a vet/zealot tbf

some kind of sneaky commando stealth

[sharp ibex]

Please don't tell zealots about a throwable knife

[shut thorn]

❓

[shut thorn]

psyker gunslinger

[mystic dome]

Railjack confirmed

[shut thorn]

the knives home in, it's lore accurate

[tawny maple]

Would probably be insanely boring unless you anchor the knife in enviroment/enemy and channel warp energy through it

[sonic aspen]

what if and I'm spitballin here they release them all at once and wait until they are all done

[mystic dome]

40k x Warframe crossover confirmed

go home everybody

[shut thorn]

it's for psyker

[mystic dome]

Thunderhammer?

what are you

[shut thorn]

wrong chat

[mystic dome]

some kind of blunt?

[tawny maple]

Probably not. But I didnt play with TH that much

[shut thorn]

Seems it's for joysticks

[mystic dome]

Cant wait for the fucking twitch stream of someone soloing damnation on a flightstick

[visual snow]

just gotta play safe and dodge the mutiedogs

[sonic aspen]

soloing on damnation with a potato using flight controls

[lucid mortar]

free flight seems like a spectator thing

[wet gust]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ol8uG6aRBVk

Is this build viable/good?

[echo parrot]

Buy me a flight stick and ill do it

[mystic dome]

Or for some shitter to tell me the games weapons are balanced cause he plays using DK bongos

[vital bough]

Anybody who doesn't take Peril Block at lvl 20 loses all respect for me

[tawny maple]

Soloing damnation without keyboard. Just using my psychic powers to channel electricity into my motherboard as means of control

[sonic aspen]

Yeah I beat the game on damnation using a rockband guitar so objectively I'm better

[shut thorn]

It uses controller axis inputs, aka prob joystick

[wet gust]

Which talent is that? Take peril instead of lose stamina?

[tawny maple]

yes

[mystic dome]

Meanwhile zealots out here playing using the RE4 chainsaw controller just to be more immersed

[humble saddle]

not necessary

[echo parrot]

I want to see that now

[wet gust]

I've hear that talent is viable only if you have a Force Sword with block cost

[shut thorn]

implant is unfinished

[vital bough]

Yes. That single talent alone makes you one of the tankiest and useful members on your team. Able to block entire hordes while saving allies.

[wet belfry]

Meh build

[tawny maple]

Face implant? Finally I can roleplay mechanicus to the fullest

[echo parrot]

Its viable all around because it lets you clutch res in the middle of a horde

[shut thorn]

It seems like left over code or unfinished

[tawny maple]

Its viable with everything, try it out

[echo parrot]

Force sword with deflector just means it can also block ranged

[vital bough]

It's useful on any melee. You can take axes and easily spam shove-attacks while blocking and taking 0 damage.

[echo parrot]

I use the feat with a knife and tank Daemonhosts for example

[tawny maple]

Huge shame. Would be a great feature

[sonic aspen]

mutations on psykers when

I want my psyker mutations

[mystic dome]

Litterally could be this games taglline right now

[echo parrot]

When you offer to pay enough Aquillas

[shut thorn]

Guys there's 6 rarities, we have 5 ingame

[sonic aspen]

Please I'll pay them loads of money

[jovial frigate]

do we have a consensus on force sword perks - I think maniac damage is probably the best roll you can get for it

[echo parrot]

I am betting the 6th rarity is the one where stats go beyond 380

[mystic dome]

matches with the reds people were expecting

[sonic aspen]

I have discord nitro so you know I'm dumb with money

[tawny maple]

Didnt hedge say no other one is planned yet? Not that I trust Hedge but they often just keep quiet if they are doing something

[shut thorn]

lol

[mystic dome]

i'd easily drop a hundred quid on aquilas for a hadron mating press cutscene

i mean uh

uh

[vital bough]

HUHH

[tawny maple]

What is wrong with you.

[shut thorn]

Whoever said it's above 380 is right

[echo parrot]

I have paid around 4-5 grand on furry artwork in the past year. If we are going by money spent overall, I think ill get Felinid cosmetics before you get mutations

[sonic aspen]

hedge did say there were no missing weapons when Power maul and crusher were

[shut thorn]

Same traits and perks

[wise pecan]

This is some vet channel horny right here

[mystic dome]

Would you like the list alphabetically, numerically or in order of severity?

[wet gust]

Even without the Force Sword blessing?

[wet gust]

elaborate pls

[tawny maple]

Same perk and trait stats. So its either a leftover or it will actually have maxed out bars

[shut thorn]

Why is vet channel talking about drinking piss anyways

[tawny maple]

Lmao missed that

[lucid mortar]

I'm guessing we won't get the final rarity until crafting is fully released, at a minimum

[crisp yacht]

Question about purge staff. I've seen a streamer just spam left click a lot. I typically charge it especially vs horde. Which is better? Spam left click or charging?

[shut thorn]

I hate how they've renamed the rarity 3 times

[mystic dome]

Tbf the vet channel is for TF2 sniper players

so they're just missing the Jarate talent

[shut thorn]

Militarum issue - > mastercrafted - > transascendant

[echo parrot]

Again, that one specific blessing just makes it to where you can block ranged in addition to everythign else. Like I said I tank Daemonhosts with a knife using that feat.

[wise pecan]

Yes. Arguably especially without force sword blessing, depending on how threatening ranged is

[tawny maple]

Usual vet players' pass time

[night marten]

yea much better to tank daemonhost with a non-FS weapon due to better passive quell

[tawny maple]

Left click for quick stagger and low damage, charge for killing groups

[vital bough]

Force sword trades Horde clear on the axe, for the ability to take 0 damage from gunners. Paired with the Peril blocking feat, the 33% gunner resist is ultimately inferior when you can just block 100% damage with force sword and peril block. Add this with a staff that has Warp Nexus and you can actively gain peril while blocking gunners, and gain crit chance while you're walking to them.

This is mostly for pairing with a staff that's good at handling horde clear since you trade the axe out.

[wet belfry]

He choose bad curios. You generally want toughness. Blessings are toughness regenration, toughness/abillty reduction, combat abillty/abillty reduction.

[wise pecan]

Left click is better stagger, right click better damage

[mystic dome]

the fact non force weapons quell faster is a bit of a bad joke too

[tawny maple]

That passive quell will probably be nerfed, not sure if its a bug even

[shut thorn]

Lol liquids use the navmeseh

[echo parrot]

That and knife/DS dodge basically means you dont get hit as much if you know how to dodge, making it very rare when you actually need to use your F to instaquell.

[shut thorn]

Like flamer fire, etc

[night marten]

we'll see

[wet belfry]

Theres also that the build will struggle hard with warp charges since it doesnt have the 10% brain burst talent.

[night marten]

if non-FS weapons don't have better passive quell, going to exacerbate peoples' frustration about not getting deflector FS imo

[warped perch]

What a terrible day to be able to read

[tawny maple]

But then having more toughness means you need more melee kills to get back to 100%. And melee damage is only blocked at 100% so its a bit counterproductive, more so if you're using 10 toughness on force attack kill perk

[night marten]

people will still have their preferences

[echo parrot]

Acquire knife, play Darktide like Londontide.

[vital bough]

If you're using the 10% brainburst to keep your stacks up you're hurting yourself. Take Warp Batter instead, and grab Psychic Communion to net you warp charges. Stick around your teammates to stay in coherency, and you have a 4% chance on every kill, including what your teammates kill, to gain warp charges. In hordes of hundreds, it's truly not a bad feat.

[frigid zenith]

Fuck all this debate shit. Take a void staff, kill everything. One shot all hordes even on damnnation.

[echo parrot]

LEL

[wet belfry]

Keep in mind he also picked the soulblaze for his abillty.

So hes eating through the stacks before reaching 6

[simple junco]

The fact debates are still happening speaks volumes as to how the class actually operates

[jovial frigate]

honestly even if passive quell is removed it wont matter as long as youre not just useless slab ogryn-ing in acorner.

the 10% chance to quell 10% on kill is enough for a mk5 axe to push block chain the entire game

[echo parrot]

Yep, we enterprise now. Only thing left is a comment saying "this doesnt do anything but when we remove all traces of it everything crashes. DO NOT comment out."

[shut thorn]

Renegade captain has a slot for a net

Bruh

[vital bough]

What do you mean 'eating through stacks'? You only lose warp charges when you push F and it's as simple as not pushing F to keep them.

[wise pecan]

They were talking about The Jar earlier

[tawny maple]

this force sword with kinetic deflector tho? Better than any passive quell 👀

[mystic dome]

Like the orange i think it is from TF2

[simple junco]

The load bearing coconut

[echo parrot]

Requires you to actually be actively attacking though.

[tawny maple]

Looks like boss, grenade tho?

[jovial frigate]

dont be shy, show us your 435 orange sword

[echo parrot]

Also nowhere near as fast as the passive quell on non force

[tawny maple]

But also blocks ranged fire

[shut thorn]

yeah its the one ingame, grenade and net are unused

[frigid zenith]

Don't need to block range if its dead.

[shut thorn]

theres code somewhere else for a boltgun

for him

[echo parrot]

Know what else blocks ranged fire? Killing the ranged.

[tawny maple]

445 actually, please be precise
Seriously though the damage bar doesn't do much

[echo parrot]

I use a knife and surge, I run damnation, its nowhere near as much of a requirement as people thing

[frigid zenith]

Don't need to CC if its dead.

[night marten]

keep hearing people like flayer just for the purpose of keep up stacks, even without using AB.

[tawny maple]

Killing dregs with surge though? Good luck

[night marten]

I think 6-stack and KO are just generally better in flayer's current state (unless you're running a gun I guess)

[echo parrot]

Left click exists

[shut thorn]

Shocktroopers are shotgunners

Their grenade is disabled

[stuck bridge]

wonder if protectorate lightning is strong

[tawny maple]

3 left clicks to kill each dreg, say there are 10 of them
That's when the problem starts

[mystic dome]

i mean at this point i'd just remove the guns option for psyker

Like do you want to just be a Vet that thinks real hard

[simple junco]

Ehh... I think psyker just needs more melee options rather than going the nuclear route

[echo parrot]

If you are having that much of an issue your movement and positioning are off.

Like I said, surge and knife, damnation, no issues.

[jovial frigate]

need to reroll carapace perk so i can roleplay psyker vet

[echo parrot]

I have a beast FS with deflector and willingly choose not to use it

I am better with mobility than I am holding down right click and crawling forward.

[shut thorn]

doubt it, it's a bb replacement

[vital bough]

Yeah I just think out of the 3 options between Ascending Blaze, Psychic Communion, and Kinetic Flayer, Kinetic Flayer is probably the worst way to gain Warp Charges, while also keeping you out of better options for your build like Overload (only for Purg) and Warp Batter (Universally better)

[tawny maple]

Where did you see me having an issue though? I just shower my sword perks and said I like this build lol

[stuck bridge]

t-try to stay positive... surely they wont make more boring lightning

we dont need 2 surge staves...

[echo parrot]

If you like the build then you like the build, nothing wrong with that. I am just saying that deflector is not a requirement for higher tiers.

[night marten]

unless you're using a high fire-rate gun, that gives you the ability to drop BBs on specific targets with flayer

[mystic dome]

I get you, i just find it weird people look at psyker and think, hmm my favourite spell is "Full Auto"

[shut thorn]

I'm all for the BB replacement, means I can run void while ccing at same time

[tawny maple]

Don't remember saying that it is a requirement but aight

[shut thorn]

Trickle horde modifier has been found

Two variants

[jovial frigate]

just put the h1 sprint they removed from duely onto force sword and everyone will be happy :^)

[shut thorn]

Dogs and snipers

Basically what that modifier does is put a hound or sniper in every horde

[simple junco]

I can see the lore behind it, and I genuinely don't mind seeing gunkjers if they can hold their own in T5.

[stuck bridge]

what if it puts you in a state that replaces your primary staff attack so you can lightning + other staff

[echo parrot]

Just used to people arguing against anything that isnt FS because "but it blocks bullet", my bad.

[shut thorn]

No you have to take it out, it has quick zaps and a charge up

[stuck bridge]

ree

[shut thorn]

Nurgle infestation heals enemies

Oboy

That's gonna be annoying

[simple junco]

The way I see it is that a psyker fills a role, purg/surge is filling CC with BB to compensate. But they're relatively short range. Gunkers kinda trade that weakness to go all in on single target damage.

[shut thorn]

wdym, it isn't bad

[tawny maple]

All enemies? OR just infested?

[stuck bridge]

imo my biggest "more fun" change to psyker is to give each staff a unique primary like the fire staff

[simple junco]

Give psykers a force crusher and all will be right in the world

[shut thorn]

Self healing hound with toughness

[mystic dome]

Oh i dont even mean like mechanically or performance wise, just from a chosing which class to play kind of vibe, like the moment i unlocked staffs i dont see why i'd use a gun just from a theming perspective

[tawny maple]

Mannn why can't we have fun mutators that change the enviroment, not enemy tweaks

[echo parrot]

FatShark: "Why is nobody playing the modifiers?"

[stuck bridge]

like the surge staff should have a primary fire that is a single target decently damaging lightning bolt

[shut thorn]

There's a gas one but I haven't found the files for it yet

[jovial frigate]

i feel like this is known tho, people complain about dogs because they are the most common spawn

[simple junco]

Ahh gotcha. Yeah, I think that's due to the 20 hours people go without actually feeling like a psyker too lol

[frigid zenith]

20 hours?

[shut thorn]

This 'circumstance' isn't in the game

[frigid zenith]

We playing the same game?

[shut thorn]

It's like ventilation purge

[raw breach]

20 hours? is that how long it takes people to get to 12?

[shut thorn]

Or lights out

[tawny maple]

Yea but for one gas mutator we get like 5 of these HP or spawn rate number tweaks 😭
Though I'm interested to see how it will look

[jovial frigate]

oh these are just map modifiers you're looking at

[shut thorn]

Oh so the nurgle blessing also makes enemies move FAST

[simple junco]

The class itself doesn't really get good until level 25, not to mention people miss out on staves and FS in the shop. It's apparently a more common thing than we realize.

[shut thorn]

Lol

[mystic dome]

Ideally i'd have it so that each staff modifies BB in some way itself, Trauma causing aoe damage, lighting chaining mini BB's maybe, stuff like that

[shut thorn]

Nvm it doesn't make them faster

It removes horde timers almost

[echo parrot]

This man, give them a drink. I love this idea.

[frigid zenith]

I'd love to see endless horde maps.

[shut thorn]

While it's cool, imagine coding it

[simple junco]

Endless horde is great

[mystic dome]

just out of beta the levels for weapons and staffs were higher, up to 20+ for some classes, i didnt see a staff of any kind on my psyker till 21

[shut thorn]

Psyker has more code than the other classes combined solely because of peril system and staves

[echo parrot]

my brain pretty much already thought of a (naive) way to implement it.

[frigid zenith]

Reduced specials and elites but you get a literal endless horde.

[raw breach]

nah, even in beta the trauma staff unlocked at 8, was terrible, then you unlocked surge at 12

[echo parrot]

Its def possible

[shut thorn]

Yeah but it doesn't sound fun

[tawny maple]

I agree, for both zealot and vet their ability F scales with their gear since its basically damage buff and grenades have good utility all the time
Why can't we have BB that scales with weapon too then

[echo parrot]

Lots of things in gamedev arent fun

[mystic dome]

For my other psyker hot takes, i'd remove the current lil magic missile for all the staffs, and move a weaker version of their charged form to the left click

[sonic aspen]

like the purge staff?

[mystic dome]

Yeah

[echo parrot]

Especially people working on an audio pipeline without wwise or FMOD. There is a reason why there arent really any amazing options for FOSS audio libs.

[shut thorn]

🤨

[supple skiff]

staff left clicks reak of "ran out of time"

made one for purge and went oh fuck

[shut thorn]

🤨 🤨 🤨

[mystic dome]

Like surge for example, chaining 3 times instead of the 5 it does now ona right click

[burnt python]

looks like the intro sequence

[mystic dome]

then you could have the right click scale up better with charge so theres more of a play to them instead of just right click hold left click until dead

[shut thorn]

it's above path of trust end 6

wait no

you're right

3 more paths of trust, was it 5 levels or smth?

per path of trust

[sharp ibex]

It was an even number

[burnt python]

iirc it was every 4

[sharp ibex]

Wasnt it?

[burnt python]

or 6?

idk

6, 12, 18, 24 30 seems right

[sharp ibex]

Goes up to chapter 6

[shut thorn]

36, 42, 48

[clear heath]

They'll add more lightning and this time it'll make the entire screen flicker white

[shut thorn]

doesn't seem right

[sharp ibex]

1 must just be "Hey you exist"

[burnt python]

hmm im pretty confident it wasn't every 5 levels during leveling

it was weird level #s where you got the scenes

[clear heath]

You'll need to wear sunglasses just to play the game

[shut thorn]

there's 3 more cutscenes and a 'traitor captain' one after 6

that we haven't seen yet

[burnt python]

game was so half baked lmao

[raw breach]

I just want a blessing to make my surge chain to more targets and/or deal higher damage beyond the first 2 targets. It's like it's coded to hit two targets then bounce off each one twice for 5% damage. Would be nice if it the chain damage was 100>75>50>25 or something

[mystic dome]

Every staff in the game to me feels poor

[sharp ibex]

There has to be, given that a 'named char' is in the intro and not seen again

[mystic dome]

not from like a power perspective, Damnation players dont @ me. But from a coolness and psyker vibe

[left briar]

they nerf surge staff by making it blind you, i see how it is

[mystic dome]

like if i equip surge staff, i want some DOW 1 shit

[shut thorn]

lmao

[clear heath]

imagine looking at the screen while playing surge

[mystic dome]

i want WITNESSS YOUR DOOOOOOHOOOOOUOUGM

[clear heath]

Just turn the monitor off

[tawny maple]

Trauma and void and the only two that do it for me in terms of visual effects and sort of display of raw power. Only at full charge tho

[stuck bridge]

literally anything to make it more fun to use

[raw breach]

The thing i've been wondering about the intro is the subtitles say the Inquisitor lady is Brahms, but the Inquisitor of the ship we're on is Grendyl? Where did Brahms go?

[simple junco]

Blindness, take it or leave it

[mystic dome]

Trauma seems the most underwhelming shit in this game, and the fact its the first staff type you unlock is a joke

[stuck bridge]

wym it's a perfect representation of the class itself

flashy but not fun with bad balancing

[raw breach]

I don't find a lack of fun, i find a lack of effectiveness aside from being able to stagger nearly anything and dealing increased damage based on how much metal armor the target is wearing

[sharp ibex]

Brahms is the rogue trader aint she

Just the boat bitch

[mystic dome]

Yeah

[shut thorn]

We have a demolition mission type, right?

[sharp ibex]

Hmm no

[mystic dome]

Pysker to me feels like far to much of its power is tied into just not bothering with half of its mechanics

[stuck bridge]

100%

[clear heath]

Psyker is good at a bunch of random shit and bad at everything it was advertised as

[shut thorn]

It says ship mistress not inquisitor

[mystic dome]

why use brainburst as a skill when you'll have it pop randomly for free, or have half the talents trigger upon hitting max, but then have an option to increase the max for 6% extra damage

[shut thorn]

But it is likely that brahms is actually grendyl

Considering the servitor voice changes to brahms for a few seconds

[mellow junco]

The inquisitor was referred to as 'he'.

[tawny maple]

Wouldnt be surprised is Brahms is Grendyl. Kind of hinted in the "I am a warrior" cinematic considering Brahms' voice comes through the servitor at one point as if the voice changer failed

[heavy wigeon]

Brahms is the Shipmistress. Grendyl co-opted her ship for his purposes.

[tawny maple]

Lmao thought the same

[mystic dome]

Lets be real here

[shut thorn]

If brahms isn't just lying

[mystic dome]

we have no idea who Grendyl is

and neither does fatshark

[heavy wigeon]

True.

[mellow junco]

The inquisitor is male. Morrow referred to him as a he.

[tawny maple]

I disagree, pretty sure they have more of the story layed out already

[shut thorn]

Considering that melk directly answers to brahms, it's a p good indication that grendyl isn't even real

[mystic dome]

he/she/they will be decided about 3 hours before the hotfix that may or may not include the cutscene showing them is added in

[shut thorn]

Why would the quartermaster report to the ship mistress if grendyl is onboard

[stuck bridge]

lol

[shut thorn]

??

[mystic dome]

Turns out

We were the inquisitor all along

[finite ledge]

no im the inquisitor

[mystic dome]

insert laugh track here

[echo parrot]

I am the senate

[tawny maple]

Its the Alpharius game but by imperials now

[shut thorn]

Remember what we lost

😭

[tawny maple]

guess who is Grendyl

[finite ledge]

we didnt lose what we never had in the first place

[echo parrot]

The drive to keep playing the game? Yeah I remember it well.

[stuck bridge]

souls from kills that build up to smites?

[shut thorn]

No, psykinetic used to be a biomancer that revolved around souls

[stuck bridge]

idk why they went with brain burst instead of smites

[shut thorn]

That whole thing was scrapped and souls just became warp charges

[tawny maple]

Souls just sounds like another name for warp charges

[shut thorn]

Instead of being a resource

[mystic dome]

Turns out the Inquisitor is actually corrupted and we all get our characters converted to chaos variants

[stuck bridge]

huh

[finite ledge]

its just a different name really, like calling the zealot grenade a flashbang instead of stun grenade

[mystic dome]

Cant wait to get -15 fps with RTX on when my card tries to show me the 17 wings and 18 eyes my psyker has now grown

[shut thorn]

It's different functionality

Last I checked having warp charges didn't make stuff swirl around you

[tawny maple]

It does, the more you have the more little blue particles orbit you

[shut thorn]

Haven't noticed then, woops

[stuck bridge]

doesnt it? i always got stuff swirling with charges

[shut thorn]

But yeah souls were very diff

[tawny maple]

share more

[finite ledge]

different in what way

[stuck bridge]

wonder how youd get them

[tawny maple]

Im intrigued

[mystic dome]

I cant help but feel that Inquisitor: Martyr did a better job of realising psykers than Darktide

[shut thorn]

impact_brick_v1

new ogryn melee

😎

[mystic dome]

fuck yes

[shut thorn]

(its probably just hitting brick w/ a melee)

[mystic dome]

Cast fist o mighty ogryn

[shut thorn]

Of note tho

["content/fx/particles/explosions/frag_grenade_ogryn"] = true,
["content/fx/particles/weapons/grenades/krak_grenade/krak_grenade_explosion"] = true,["content/fx/particles/abilities/preacher/preacher_bubble_shield_explode_3p"] = true,["content/fx/particles/abilities/squad_leader_ability_shout_activate"] = true,

[daring grotto]

I dont like this class. It does almost nothing outside of using mind pops are warp charges

[shut thorn]

["content/fx/particles/abilities/squad_leader_ability_damage_buff"] = true,

[mystic dome]

Correct

[daring grotto]

@shut thorn whats this?

[night marten]

preacher bubble shield

[tawny maple]

Krak grenade would make sense considering the amount of carapace armoured and shields we have

[mystic dome]

BFG has become a true psyker and pierced the veil

[shut thorn]

["content/fx/particles/abilities/psyker_smite_projectile_impact_01"] = true,

leftover from souls, its just staff lmb now

[mystic dome]

and gained great knowledge that is a terrible burden

[shut thorn]

I've already tested krak grenade I've seen footage :)

One shots maulers t5

[mystic dome]

namely just how much shit Fatshark deleted or never finished in the files

[tawny maple]

Oi

so it is for the new class? And not a leftover?

[shut thorn]

It's new and functional

Does a lil disco light thing before epic warp explosion

Attaches

Like it homes in on targets

[tawny maple]

👀 interesting

[shut thorn]

There's also a fire grenade but it might just be the grenadier's

Possibly for mk1 ["content/fx/particles/weapons/swords/forcesword/psyker_parry"] = true,

["content/fx/particles/abilities/protectorate_chainlightning_attacking_hands"] = true,

https://tenor.com/view/unlimited-power-starwars-star-wars-emperor-gif-7513769

["content/fx/particles/screenspace/screen_biomancer_souls_full_cover"] = true,

:(

[tawny maple]

New force sword lightning effect is cool and all but I wish they'd just make the FS shield invisible. Would be so much easier and still make sense

[shut thorn]

["content/fx/particles/abilities/squad_leader_ability_toughness_buff"] = true,

[shut thorn]

What I posted is not force sword, it's protectorate bb replacement

[tawny maple]

This one a leftover too I suppose? Or an actual development for the next class?

[shut thorn]

You shoot lightning from your hands

[tawny maple]

ahh

[shut thorn]

no, it's next

[tawny maple]

wonder how it'll look

does sound cool

[devout belfry]

Wait, what are we talking about?

[shut thorn]

wait, ogryn has a ripper not a combat shotgun

[devout belfry]

New leaks or mines?

[shut thorn]

["content/fx/particles/weapons/rifles/shotgun/combat_shotgun_ogryn_impact"] = true,

eh?

[shut thorn]

I'm mining

Ig

[tawny maple]

Having a psyker class focused on protection and creating shield bubbles and stuff would be very badass

[shut thorn]

Ah yes

["content/fx/particles/screenspace/screen_stunned_light"] = true,

Surge

(not really lol)

[devout belfry]

I need my handmaiden from V2 vibes.

[tawny maple]

More like warrior priest IG

[shut thorn]

That is what protectorate is

[tawny maple]

I know, I just wish they don't goof it up

[shut thorn]

Protectorate aura is 10% less dmg, charges up and puts down a force dome thing on F, G is zap hands

[tawny maple]

Oooh sounds very epic

[magic hull]

anyone getting a 100% perils recharge delay?

[shut thorn]

Protectorate is most finished

More and more I dig

[tawny maple]

People might hate it for lack of DPS but he'll probably be invaluable like surge rn

[shut thorn]

It seems fully functional

[shut thorn]

Yes check pins

You've asked before

[mystic dome]

Turns out Protectorate is actually Sienna's last class

and fatshark accidentally put it in the wrong game

[tawny maple]

Wonder when it'll come out tho. Few months i'm guessing?

[burnt python]

protectorate soundin kinda dope

[mystic dome]

💀

[shut thorn]

Dunno, it's pretty finished, they'll probably wait to finish gun lugger and squad leader

[magic hull]

no i didnt

[shut thorn]

zealot's stealth class thing is really unfinished

[devout belfry]

Gives me hope.

[magic hull]

but tnks

[shut thorn]

Well now you did 😎

[devout belfry]

New weapons would be nice.

[shut thorn]

Ah, ABout that

Hold on

[tawny maple]

Wish there'd be some footage on protectorate too >.>

[echo parrot]

I have a really hard time thinking a "stealth class" would work here. Everyone would just kill everything before you could do your stealth thing.

[shut thorn]

They get insane mobility

1.5x or smth

[tawny maple]

also, how would it function? Your psyker character will be able to switch disciplines like that? Or you'll need to create and level new char?

[shut thorn]

or was it 1.25x

on a zealot

[echo parrot]

I know, I run a knife on my zealot

zoooooom

[shut thorn]

Now imagine that but 1.25x

[mystic dome]

Classes better not require new characters being that theres only 5 slots

[echo parrot]

I mean, I do, like I said I run it on my zealot

[shut thorn]

It says "archetype specialization"

[tawny maple]

Ahh good

[shut thorn]

So you prob do a mission or switch to it

[acoustic spade]

has the quelling bug been fixed?

[shut thorn]

No

[echo parrot]

no

[burnt python]

i hope you're right on that

[mystic dome]

Complete the battlepass chain, or pay 12.99 to unlock Gunlugger now!

[burnt python]

i am worried

[burnt python]

dont mind leveling another char for new class but no shared currency 😦

[shut thorn]

In the 2h force sword test

chain_sword is eviscerator

[burnt python]

2h fs w/ evisc moveset 😮

i would nut

[shut thorn]

Not moveset, just the sweep box

[devout belfry]

If I could use these exp trinkets -_-

[shut thorn]

Moveset is still 1h FS but that's prob for testing

[burnt python]

what does sweep box refer to? hit box?

[shut thorn]

yes

[burnt python]

gotcha

if it actually reuses 1h fs moveset that will be a very sad day

[shut thorn]

[shut thorn]

There's a 2h in the trailer using heavy blade moveset

[burnt python]

heavy blade? the zealot heavy sword?

[shut thorn]

3 marks of thunder hammer and power sword

[shut thorn]

yes

[echo parrot]

You have my attention.

[burnt python]

interesting. that move set is actually very nice (on some mks), just po or armor pen

[shut thorn]

It's only for a few seconds, it's not a force sword though

[echo parrot]

Rage

[shut thorn]

around 1:09 or something

Might be before

lol

gunslinger is also more coded

"gleam"

also as for what syringe is

it's like a medkit u can use on others

[tawny maple]

Servo skull???

[shut thorn]

prob to clear corruption

[shut thorn]

used in investigation

[burnt python]

medipacks back

[tawny maple]

ahh good, don't want them taking anything from my beloved skitarii class that is definitely coming

[shut thorn]

3 marks of force sword

Apparently it was possible to throw gimoires

Probably removed due to being able to toss out of map

Or smth

[tawny maple]

Wdym? You can toss them away rn

[manic needle]

I want to throw grimoires at enemies like an Ogryn grenade box

[sonic aspen]

I just realized the Psyker class spotlight video from fatshark says the starting weapon for the psyker is a stub revolver but I remember in the preorder beta it was the auto pistol

[manic needle]

finally theyd be useful for something

[clear heath]

Well grimoires are now designed around not being able to drop them and pick them back up

[burnt python]

"discard" and "throw" are diff actions

[clear heath]

even if you die they just vanish

[tawny maple]

Same as VT2

[devout belfry]

The beta before that was a stub.

[manic needle]

It was stub during the closed beta and then they changed it

[burnt python]

it was revolver in closed betas then changed prior to preorder, probably just old info

[sonic aspen]

Which was the weird thing

[manic needle]

Because Psykers arent allowed to have nice things 🙂

[shut thorn]

Assassination mission guy can have a netgun, hellgun and bolt pistol

[burnt python]

lmao trapper boss

[clear heath]

netgun

wtf

[tawny maple]

That is quite cool

[devout belfry]

At level 1 I'd rather not have the stub lol

[burnt python]

maybe we will actually get a different boss soon... fighting same homie gets old

[sonic aspen]

The psykers hopes and dreams 😔

[manic needle]

Effective vs. Elite enemies 😂

[shut thorn]

It's not wrong, we basically disable them

[manic needle]

And hope someone else deals with them before we run out of juice though

[clear heath]

This only even happens if you have the feat

[shut thorn]

relics from vt2 side missions

[tawny maple]

Or just quickswap to FS -> C -> Attack

[sacred lodge]

...really? one of the beginner builds milkandcookiestw has trauma staff?

[manic needle]

I dont like force sword with Surge Staff tbh

If you have to knock the elite down then Axe them a question

[tawny maple]

then just quickswap and attack 🙂

[sacred lodge]

I get wanting to build around brain burst because that's like our thing but.... trauma?

[shut thorn]

lol

[tawny maple]

I guess platinum is just diamantine

[manic needle]

To be fair, if the Psyker's elite management ability on high difficulties is just "melee them like anyone else who is desperate" then don't call them good vs. elites. At least IMO

I dont even dislike Psyker its just... BB is down bad rn

[simple junco]

Ehh... It's how to spec into it. KB is great for regaining some of that elite removal capacity

[shut thorn]

PlayerCharacterStateHogtied

😳

I guess it's when you're in the rescue state

[tawny maple]

This just makes your surge so much better, wdym melee like desparate

[sonic aspen]

Don't expose the secret hadron dlc

[shut thorn]

max_meta_buffs = 10,

?

I found the meta guys

[sacred lodge]

look, if they add in skitarii as a class... I'm just gone. like, friendship ruined with Beloved, now Omnissiah's my best friend

[shut thorn]

hub_gravity = 35.46,

Ouch

3.6Gs constant

[burnt python]

damn we got some strong legs

[south zephyr]

Any tips/advice for getting Pick n' Mix?

[shut thorn]

Yeah it seems implants are gone

[simple junco]

Run KB, play the new map on Damnation, and there's about 8 gunners near the end.

[devout belfry]

Kb?

[burnt python]

have you seen anything bout the accessory slot with 0 items available rn?

[manic needle]

Use voicechat to call off everyone from the elites if you see an opportunity to get it, and get lucky enough to have that opportunity.

[tawny maple]

Play damnation, have Kinetic Barrage, communicate with teammates and be patient. You'll get a group with 5 shotguns eventually

[devout belfry]

Ah

[simple junco]

Kinetic barrage ye

[manic needle]

Also, let everyone know youre trying for it in advance

[shut thorn]

Yes there's a backpack for imperial edition

[simple junco]

T5 players are pretty open to it, mixes it up a touch

[shut thorn]

Also there's 5 emote slots

[burnt python]

ah forgot bout that

[devout belfry]

Does t4 still have infinite horde bug?

[wise pecan]

Sharpshooter friend. Aim for gunners/shot gunners. The first spawns in a mission tend to be the most aggressive. I got it by just exiting/entering a match repeatedly with a bio-optic sharpshooter friend until we had 5 gunners in the first room

[manic needle]

Nah @devout belfry

[tawny maple]

no

[burnt python]

they say its a UI bug and not actually active despite the tab screen showing it

[manic needle]

Ive done actual Heresy Hi-Intensity runs and theyre different from the ones with the display bug, its easy to notice.

And Im not even seeing that anymore

[burnt python]

yeah i believe it, actual high intensity is noticeable

[simple junco]

Huh, I suppose that could work. I think we're talking solo atm though

[wise pecan]

Agreed

[vestal finch]

Noobs can't tell the difference cause they wipe in 2 minutes anyway

[burnt python]

high intensity damnation is fun, always at least 2 specials alive it feels lol

pox bursters spawning back to back to back to back to back

[wise pecan]

If you’re stuck solo, uh…. Good luck lmao

[simple junco]

High int damnation makes purgatus worth using tbh. It just feels so satisfying.

[wise pecan]

Indeed

[shut thorn]

Proof that shotgunners have nades

[burnt python]

idk every time i take purge into damnation im just fuckin mad at the mass volume of shooters i cant deal with lol

[shut thorn]

Seems they're impact

[bleak sonnet]

gun

[wise pecan]

The one high intensity Damnation I ran was purgatus, surge, flamer, and me as vet on special duty. It was… intense

[burnt python]

i prefer void/trauma above others for damn

[shut thorn]

There's both a shock grenade and stumm grenade btw

[bleak sonnet]

i prefer playing any other class ngl

[burnt python]

meh zealots teh only one i feel is obviously better at damn

vet overrated tbh

[bleak sonnet]

unless they fixed the BB shit

[simple junco]

2 purg and a zealot flamer with an ogryn was an interesting experience

[shut thorn]

Here someone had asked about the old soul system

Basically you could use them as projectiles

gunslinger knife

[tawny maple]

sounds cool. Really wish we get it back with an eventual (hopefully) psyker buff

[simple junco]

After trying out the power sword and crusher, Psyker really needs some better melee options tbh

[bleak sonnet]

what's the crusher

[simple junco]

The zealot melee club that you charge up with alt and send a shockwave through a crowd

[burnt python]

auto targetting missiles? interesting

[simple junco]

It's literally a free trauma staff knockback

[bleak sonnet]

is that new?

[simple junco]

Yeah, recent patch added it

[bleak sonnet]

any good?

[simple junco]

Most fun I've ever had with a melee

[bleak sonnet]

im planning on reinstalling tonight or tmrw and maining my zealot

[shut thorn]

old psyker

prob the sienna F thing on pyromancer

[vestal finch]

Fanatics were BEGGING fatshark to give Thunderhammer special attacks an AOE

[burnt python]

the zealot club is kinda bad tbh

[wise pecan]

Best weapon in the game at horde control, not great at horde clear

[burnt python]

slow af

[vestal finch]

What did they do? Made an entirely new weapon

[burnt python]

aint no way lol

[bleak sonnet]

did they buff thunder hammer yet

[simple junco]

It's pretty good if you build into attack speed, plus it removes crushers and maulers from the fight just like a trauma staff would

[burnt python]

knocking a bunch of shit down and scattering it is not good horde control

[vestal finch]

You are stopping a horde from attacking

You are CONTROLLING not CLEARING

Read, please

[shut thorn]

Wait

[vestal finch]

You embarass me

[burnt python]

you can take an eviscerator and do the same "control" while actually clearing

[shut thorn]

Are renegades available as standard enemies?

[wise pecan]

Keeping everything within 30 ft of you permanently knocked down/staggered is unparalleled control

[shut thorn]

Because you have chaos, cultist and renegade

[burnt python]

controlling is useless when killing is an option

[shut thorn]

Nvm yeah cuz chaos is just nurgle beasts and pox

[simple junco]

It does oneshot poxwalkers in an aoe up to T4, haven't done any testing on T5 yet

[burnt python]

the game in its current state is straight up not hard enough for CC to be as valuable as many ppl believe

[wise pecan]

My guy you have clearly not seen a crusher in action

[burnt python]

lol ok

crushers are not even remotely a threat but ok

[simple junco]

Eh... Crowd control is an entire wipe condition lol

By itself, whatever. But paired with everything else the game gives you

[vestal finch]

He's talking about the weapon not the enemy

[wise pecan]

Eviscerator kills like four guys in a swing. Crusher controls the entire horde

[shut thorn]

Guys I think I know what syringe does

[burnt python]

oof ya that seems very obvious now lol, my bad

[simple junco]

(they should probably rename the crusher lol)

[burnt python]

idk its the same argument i have on here about surge

killing > ccing

always

period

[vestal finch]

Sibling, you are acting like a blunt right now.

[echo parrot]

Literally just the adrenaline from L4D2

[sharp ibex]

Is there anything about stims?

[shut thorn]

There's a syringe_corrpution pickup

[simple junco]

True, but stun at a close range is ALWAYS better than stunning at a mid range

[shut thorn]

And animation for it on both ogryn and humans

[sharp ibex]

Maybe the potion replacement

[wise pecan]

Killing one dude > cc’ing one, but killing 4 dudes < cc’ing infinite

[elfin wadi]

can somebody confirm, that the demonhost still counts as monstrosity for the brainburst penance?

[burnt python]

i mean i ju st straight disagree, melee in this game is so safe that killing a few at a time to remove the problem >>> ccing til someone else kills

[simple junco]

If you use surge in a way where it doesn't screw over your zealot/purg staff user, then it's pret good

[shut thorn]

Neat, that's why DT has such good sounds, they're from foley

[vestal finch]

It does, I helped a psyker get it by killing a DH

[elfin wadi]

ok thanks

then we jsut fucked it up

[shut thorn]

I KNEW IT

It's a book

The relic buff thing is a fucking book

[simple junco]

I wonder if they're gonna add a mod that spawns a bunch of Demonhosts but reduces elite spawns

[shut thorn]

yes

There is one

[vestal finch]

Lights out.

[simple junco]

Oh boy Hard Rain 2

Wait, it's in lights out?

I avoid those like the plague, no wonder I missed it lol

[burnt python]

i really like lights out but it destroys my framerate for w/e reason

[shut thorn]

No there's also a specific one for more daemonhosts

[vestal finch]

There's like 4 guaranteed DH spawns in lights out missions

[shut thorn]

Lights out doesn't just increase DH it increases encampments too

[burnt python]

are "encampments" patrols?

[shut thorn]

no theyre the stationary ones

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okay

squad leader

is p much

confirmed