psyker-class

[drowsy fog]

Be the jedi you were meant to be cal

[jaunty atlas]

that said i saw people explode. so .. it was good

[remote tusk]

yeah it's not difficult to deal with just a constant string of annoyances

[night marten]

uh game?

[drowsy fog]

No missions for you go to bed

[night marten]

interesting they all came back at once

[grave bobcat]

Don't even feel like i need it to want to run it and its annoying

[jaunty atlas]

except the stats are bugged this is a 377. but still very nice

[remote tusk]

g'night siblings. Don't let the bedperils bite

[jaunty atlas]

you can roleplay as a delta psyker with guns and BB's

gn !

[drowsy fog]

Be the person Mr Roger's knew you could be

[spark fractal]

yeah but...i have no use for a gun on a psyker, and the base gun type is not especially good

the one time melk gives me something high level

[leaden pier]

perhaps switch it up once in awhile

go gun psyker for fun

[jaunty atlas]

melk does his best to make you do stuff. he expectsyou to gamble the caramelks, not hoard them like an heretic

[teal needle]

Ugh right it's a new day, time to approach Melk with hands outstretched

[night marten]

first he has to offer something that isn't garbage

then I'll spend caramelks

[long wharf]

make sure you bring your kneepads to Sour Milk

[jaunty atlas]

gamble sibling. get greys

[night marten]

if the stats aren't over 350, get it the fuck out of the weekly shop

[spark fractal]

is there an official name for the currency? i've been calling them melk duds, because...well, his stock sucks ass

as you can see i have 8,000 of the useless things

[leaden pier]

i think they're called marks

[spark fractal]

his gambling gives greens and grays, not even good ones either

[jaunty atlas]

let's remember somtimes he has things that can do stuff

[jaunty atlas]

dunno. that's official ogryn name, because they tasty

but ... here, in the refine assembly

[spark fractal]

yeah that's not bad, except he's just as likely to give you a 313 gray

[jaunty atlas]

the melk giveth

and he surely taketh a lot more

[warm delta]

Melk gave me this the other day, blessing is meh tho but bought it for the base stats

[drowsy fog]

Getting closer and closer to redownloading vt2

[jaunty atlas]

playing peasants when you can play space peasants ?!

[teal needle]

It was shit. Melk shat in my hands.

[cyan notch]

🙏

[simple junco]

Is cowboy psyker worth it?

[drowsy fog]

Playing sister of the thorn when I could play an incomplete game lol

[grave bobcat]

How is this a question

[simple junco]

Y'know, fair

[grave bobcat]

What doubt is there when the words "Cowboy Psyker" are uttered

[quaint pollen]

Does anyone have tips for suiciding and killing three dudes for the penance

[drowsy fog]

Get friends to herd elites

[quaint pollen]

Friends? Let me stop you right there

[oblique jasper]

Feel like warp flurry is wonderful

[simple junco]

"The year was 40k... The old west is drawing to a close"

[patent ledge]

I just yeet myself and hope for the best

[warm delta]

The blessing prolly bugged, feels its not doing anything rn

[grave bobcat]

YOU'VE YEE'D YOUR LAST HAWW HERETIC

[oblique jasper]

That’s a shame :/

[lucid mortar]

What are the two best perks for Antax?

[grave bobcat]

Brutal Momentum and the other one

[simple junco]

Tertium ain't big enough for the two of us, heretic

[oblique jasper]

Is purg staff viable being the only psyker in damnation? Or is it not worth it

[keen belfry]

Has any one tried % to Block with Psyker Sword and Kinetic Deflection?

[timber shale]

Yeah, hilariously, charging your staff counts as interrupting your chain, so warp flurry does nothing

[keen belfry]

like seems pointless?

[timber shale]

Yep, works great

[dull cedar]

Haven't done this myself, but at the first drop in Magis something assassination mission, on high difficulty there's usually a horde waiting for you with maybe 3+ elite, try that

[patent ledge]

Somebody poisoned the water hole

[lucid mortar]

noted - but was asking about the perks not the blessings

[patent ledge]

Get to it, varlet

[keen belfry]

what does it actually help?

[grave bobcat]

thats what I get for glancing over lmao

[timber shale]

It decreases how much peril you generate by blocking

[keen belfry]

ok makes sense

[timber shale]

Whether or not that is worthwhile is up to you

[oblique jasper]

Would you guys run purg staff being the only psyker in damnation? Or do you stick to just surg

[jaunty atlas]

if i could still love heroic fantasy i'll go. really

[night marten]

hell yea

[simple junco]

"Someone has infiltrated Tertium's water supply, varlet. You are to enter and provide us samples of the watering hole to ensure no contaminants are within. You are not to drink, nor approach the water itself, varlets."

[orchid nest]

that can vary a lot depending on your antax, the best thing you can do is go to the psykhanium and see what breakpoints you would reach if you had a certain damage perk

[oblique jasper]

What sort of stats should I go for on purg?

[timber shale]

Warp resistance also helps with deflector. A sword with high resist can block significantly more than one with low resist.

[oblique jasper]

Whats the most important stats

[simple junco]

There really isn't a dump stat for purg, so ensure everything is above 60% more or less

[mental vortex]

which staff do I go for

[jaunty atlas]

my usual setup is not giving a flying F and make them witness. sometimes i witness.

[timber shale]

Burn and cloud radius are both really nice

[warm delta]

there is literally no difference

[night marten]

I thought the same thing, but did some testing and honestly though damage helps a tiny bit it's really not anything to lose sleep over on purg

burn dictates the vast majority of damage

[jaunty atlas]

damage on purg seem to be extra dump

[night marten]

make sure it's lower than like 40-50% and it's probably fine

[simple junco]

All the stats are equal, but damage is equal-er. It dictates your burn tick rate which is massive in a horde

[night marten]

I think the rate referred to by "intensity" on the damage stat is just how fast the direct damage itself ticks, not soulblaze

[jaunty atlas]

? are you sure of that ? i see absolutely no diff on fire, only on flamer ticks

[timber shale]

On the purg staff, damage affects “burn intensity”. Anybody know what that does? Given it’s a decimal that decreases as damage goes up, I suspect it might be how many times the dot ticks per second

[night marten]

I think soulblaze always ticks at the same rate, but is applied faster and to a great limit the higher Burn is. Damage kind of helps because with more direct damage ticks you have a higher chance of getting a crit per secondary blast, meaning you could hit the soulblaze limit faster

but it's *effect on total damage done is pretty minimal

[simple junco]

I think I'm wording it wrong, it's more or less application rate

[night marten]

Burn controls application rate

[timber shale]

Oh nvm. Here’s my answer.

[simple junco]

I thought it dictated stacks given?

Or the rate of stacks given

[night marten]

it's both

max stacks, and their application rate

[simple junco]

It doesn't make sense for it to be both

[night marten]

maybe I'm interpreting the two stats wrong, push V on a purge staff and take a look at those two figures

having tested a 70+% damage and a ~30% damage purge staff, the differences are extremely small

[ebon jolt]

Warp resistance on the FS only affects the special.

[simple junco]

What were your testing parameters? Just curious, not saying you're wrong or anything

[night marten]

the direct damage rate goes down, which slightly lowers your ability to crit and that's no nothing, but the two factors controlled by Burn are vastly more important

[timber shale]

They’re both dictated by the staff’s damage stat

[simple junco]

I'm hearing literally 3 different answers for this lol. Time to test it wooo

[timber shale]

Does it even require testing? Just inspect the breakdowns and it shows that damage dictates max stacks and burn intensity

[timber shale]

Doubt

[simple junco]

Then what does burn do?

[night marten]

Push V

read the stats

[faint musk]

A Gold Staff blessing?! Is this is a dream?

[night marten]

hover over them

Burn controls stack application and max stack limit

damage does not

[manic needle]

when you get loaded onto the Black Ships and then the Emperor gives you that good S U C C 😩

Zealots jealous

[night marten]

Damage affects the direct damage base, and direct damage tick rate, which are separate from soulblaze

[sonic aspen]

I can't wait to be a battery

[simple junco]

Wouldn't that also affect how often soulblaze is applied?

[night marten]

no

[simple junco]

So what applies soulblaze?

[night marten]

They're two different things happening simultaneously

[long wharf]

burn affects how many soulblaze stacks you can have and how quickly

[night marten]

^

[long wharf]

damage is strictly the damage of the actual attack, not the soulblaze stacks

[night marten]

purge direct damage and soulblaze damage mechanics are not synonymous

[simple junco]

So damage is now a dump stat?

[timber shale]

Damage lists “secondary action burn intensity” as a rider. Dafuq is that if it doesn’t affect burn?

[manic needle]

I wouldnt go that far personally

Then again I also wouldnt use a Purgatus staff lol

[night marten]

on purge, it kind of is. It can help a little bit like I said, because higher purg damage means your direct secondary ticks faster gives you more chances to crit (2x soulblaze stacks applied)

[simple junco]

Like, I have a 40% damage staff and a 60% and the difference between a poxwalker kill is 75% secondary charge to 50% secondary charge

[vital bough]

Burn intensity as in the M2 Burn when it's doing front-loaded damage on contact. Not SoulBlaze stack damage.

[simple junco]

Is the damage THAT good on it?

[wanton sandal]

the warp resistance

[timber shale]

Ahhh I understand now. Thanks Swamp.

[night marten]

but ultimately it barely affects the total output of a secondary charge at all

[potent echo]

Crits apply double soulburn?

[night marten]

yes

[simple junco]

Yep

[worn mica]

decent?

[wanton sandal]

meh, if you like knives its pretty alright but for 2k?

[potent echo]

Where the sauce on that

[night marten]

340 stats and riposte? pass

[worn mica]

havent tried a knife so thats why im asking

[night marten]

fair enough

[worn mica]

and 340 is decent for something im trying, doesnt need to be a god roll

[potent echo]

Also purgatus staff secondary damage actually ramps up alot the higher the charge

[night marten]

absolutely, but why drop really limited currency on it?

[potent echo]

It's worth it to unleash a full charge

[night marten]

just buy some trash from the shop and throw a few crafting mats at it

[worn mica]

very true

[high agate]

I like how if you join a game with a decent vet and a decent zealot w/ flamer youre just useless lmao

[worn mica]

melk really is a scammer smh

[idle bay]

Siblings, should i.... ?

[night marten]

damage isn't high enough for void

[lucid mortar]

hmm am I crazy or can you keep bunny hopping at low stam to maintain speed? Can't tell if I'm imagining it

[potent echo]

Dodge sliding is faster

[night marten]

I feel like I've dodged attacks by jumping, might just be my imagination

[simple junco]

Ahhh that's the difference. Yeah I was checking out the staves and the better one was crit. Thanks for the explanation lol

[night marten]

huge purge fan here, so I've been trying to figure out whether it did have a dump stat or not. Turns out damage has a very low impact on a purg staff's effectiveness

[warm delta]

wait, crit by purg give 2x soulblaze stacks?

[simple junco]

Yep!

[night marten]

The difference is there between like 30 and 70%, but anything less and you basically don't notice

[simple junco]

Ahhh gotcha. Yeah I've been reading the stats pretty much backwards lol

[night marten]

The key is, getting a staff that applies 15 stacks via the Burn stat

[potent echo]

Yea the secondary ramp up damage is actually quite nice, but my staff has like >75% damage/burn

[night marten]

it says 16 is max, but people have reported even 80% staffs only reach 15.

[potent echo]

16 is 100% probably

[meager plinth]

prob 90% is needed for 16

[vital bough]

Most important 2 stats on Purg are definitely Burn% and Cloud%

Other than that it really doesn't matter

[timber shale]

Cloud% is huge

[vital bough]

It's all quality of life stuff otherwise though

[timber shale]

The range bump is so nice

[night marten]

shouldn't sleep on warp res and quell speed imo, you're generally spamming secondary when you're up against it so they come in pretty clutch

[potent echo]

Now if only they fixed shotgunners to get properly suppressed/staggered...

[warm delta]

and warp resistance

[timber shale]

Before this patch warp resistance was worthless on purg

[potent echo]

Warp resist not that important honestly

As long as you start firing before 100% you won't explode

[jaunty atlas]

the game blessed ! i shall now put a helmet a speak with a potato in my mouth

[timber shale]

You could just keep full channeling purg staff at 100% peril last patch, as long as you quelled before the channel finished

[keen belfry]

I saw this and just bought it, i dont know what came over me...

[potent echo]

If you start charging at like 80% you can start firing at 99% and be totally fine

[jaunty atlas]

https://tenor.com/view/what-do-they-mean-random-numbers-gif-10654449

[warm delta]

oh, can you start change at 99% without blowing yourself up?

[potent echo]

Actually a really nice revolver

[night marten]

you can FIRE at 99%

[sacred lodge]

oooooohhhh... deflector is frontal cone only?

[potent echo]

No you have to start fire at 99%

Leftclick

[simple junco]

Seeing all these revolvers is making me want to make a Veteran named Cowboy Curtis and use exclusively revolvers

[night marten]

if you charge sub 100, then start firing after you hit 100, you overload

[simple junco]

... Or use a revolver on a psyker and call it McCree

[warm delta]

dam it, not what I was hoping for

[keen belfry]

Mcree lol

[potent echo]

And then the shop doesn't give you any

[simple junco]

Real psyker hours

[keen belfry]

ya we will see how it is i bet you could deal some nice dmg with it and 15% head pop

[sacred lodge]

this game has desire sensors I've not seen since MonHun

[night marten]

however, even if you start firing at 100 by mistake, dont end the charge early. there's a chance you kill something and proc the 10% chance to lose 10% peril on kill (passively) which will prevent you from overloading

when shit gets real desperate

[jaunty atlas]

and tempo for F

[delicate acorn]

Is BB to upkeep warp charges just a trap?

Like

Passively getting them is so much better.

[night marten]

yea, just gotta hold out until F comes back lol

[timber shale]

Warp charges in general are a trap

[warm delta]

does this works with purge staff?

[night marten]

doesn't work with soulblaze far as I can tell

[simple junco]

It does, but it only affects base damage it looks like

Doesn't touch soulblaze

[night marten]

so really ineffective with purgatus

[simple junco]

Yeahhh

[solemn sluice]

Is it good for smite staff though?

[warm delta]

what about the warp charges? dont tell me they also not working with the soulblaze too...

[night marten]

I don't think so

if you're referring to the passive 3% damage increase

[warm delta]

yes

that

[night marten]

however, soulblaze is the only thing that benefits from causes Ascendant Blaze 10% proc chance, not the staff's direct damage

[timber shale]

The fuck is a smite staff?

[solemn sluice]

Lightning.

[timber shale]

Oh

Surge staff

[white badger]

Surge

That's a Surge Staff

[timber shale]

Yeah it works with that

[solemn sluice]

Coolio.

[cyan notch]

what the hells smite staff

who calls it that

[misty plaza]

im already lvl 27 and have not seen a single force sword in the shop since like lvl 7

[grave bobcat]

Yeaahhh

[tender terrace]

is this just fucky game or skill issue

[grave bobcat]

It be like that.

[simple junco]

Good luck, sibling

Seriously. Especially if you want a deflector

[bleak quarry]

Originally surge staff was going to be called smite staff. Calling it smite staff is hipster and annoying

[grave bobcat]

Kinda fucky, but once burster is in the air it's pretty much game over 😛

[misty plaza]

yeah been wanting to get one with deflector but the problem is i cant even get a sword to spawn in the damn shop i need rng for even that 🗿

[tender terrace]

i hit F like a full second before it jumped

[simple junco]

Yeahhhh that's just the life of a psyker tho

[grave bobcat]

Yeah I agree

[night marten]

you have to F, or push, when it jumps

[simple junco]

If you want a life hack, get into combat knives

[grave bobcat]

Ping server etc etc

[night marten]

if you F or push too early, nothing happens

[uncut hamlet]

Is quell speed or charge speed better for surge

[tender terrace]

huh

[grave bobcat]

Nah he F'd at a good time

Just game denied it

[tender terrace]

it should just knock the buster over before it even jumps

[uncut hamlet]

Oh hey I was just in game with you lmao

[solemn sluice]

Dark gods denied the f.

[uncut hamlet]

I saw that happen

sup widget

[tender terrace]

silly

[night marten]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKLiKkz3lJ4

[simple junco]

OH. Yeah that happens to me all the time. Yeah the game just gave you a fat L for no reason lol

[tender terrace]

i played like shit that game feels bad but fuck that trapper and that burster

[cyan notch]

what

dont you have to push during the jump

[uncut hamlet]

You played like shit? Did you see our zealot?

One of them was literally allergic to teammates

[grave bobcat]

nah

[tender terrace]

just zealot things ig

[night marten]

F worked here

[cyan notch]

it has never worked before the jump for me

[uncut hamlet]

You and the better zealot were my lifeline for that misson lmao

[simple junco]

It's finnicky even if you do it right

[tender terrace]

like this, right?

[simple junco]

But you gotta pretty much charge it while it runs at you and push it back

[uncut hamlet]

This one shouldve worked too lmao

[tender terrace]

games just busted oh well, still gonna play the shit out of it

[uncut hamlet]

yea its fun

[grave bobcat]

Nah I'd disagree with that one

Wayy too late

[uncut hamlet]

Im trying out surge and its giving my eyes pain

[night marten]

pushes a split second too early on that

the jump hasn't started

[tender terrace]

if anything its too early

[uncut hamlet]

How did the new vfx get through testing

[grave bobcat]

Are you waiting for the jump to push?

[simple junco]

Probably the same way Purg did back on launch

[tender terrace]

yeah whatever, games fucked as far as im concerned cause if i have to be a rocket scientist and hit shit at the correct nanosecond with these fucky server, its silly design

[night marten]

happens automatically when it's close enough, don't think you have a choice if the push is successful

[uncut hamlet]

Also ima ask again, charge speed or quell speed on surge? I have 2 staves with almost 80 on every stat except one of those 2

[dull cedar]

uhh are low level staffs just bad? feels like guns are better
I'm level 8 btw

[night marten]

charge speed isn't important on surge

[grave bobcat]

Ik he jumps when he close enough 😄

[uncut hamlet]

quell it is

[night marten]

you want to spam for CC

[long wharf]

low level staves are good for the CC they bring

[simple junco]

Usually you'll quick spam for a surge

[long wharf]

which is core to how the psyker currently plays at high level

[simple junco]

(just don't spam it at a horde)

[glacial abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/balenciagaval-dog-reaction-lol-serious-gif-23062321

[uncut hamlet]

This one fine to upgrade? Overall base stats are low asf but its all on charge which I dont need anyway right?

[glacial abyss]

i spam surge in hordes

[whole wharf]

Honestly? I would definitely appreciate more force melee weapons.

[tender terrace]

burster should be based on audio queue, if it's doing the high pitched beeping, it should be pushable, expecting me to watch feet in the middle of a crowd is silly design either way

[glacial abyss]

i go with mad crit and surge in hordes i surge all my enemies

they get surged

surged

[simple junco]

"It's surgin' time" - Dr. Surge

[glacial abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/master-shake-athf-gif-26304729

[long wharf]

Dr Lightning Surge

[night marten]

think you caught it the instant it started

[glacial abyss]

me

i surge

[grave bobcat]

It's a joke clip lmao

[uncut hamlet]

ngl purge more fun though

[simple junco]

Nah but yeah, if you have someone running CC already it messes them up. Best to keep it for elites then

[grave bobcat]

I did it right just someone killed it lol

[night marten]

nearly impossible to see its feet leave the floor, but that was about as early as you could have performed the push. but yea sucks it still got em lol

[whole wharf]

Like, something that gets enchanted with soul flame? Cause currently the purgatus is the only real force weapon that applies soul flame.

[tender terrace]

holy fuck i hate when this shit happens too, like stop fucking shooting it if im running to push it, have had people blow them up in my face even

[night marten]

LOL bronto killed it

every time

[simple junco]

FS can also apply soulblaze with the right blessings

[grave bobcat]

Won't lie, I see my Zealot/Vet pushing a burster

[night marten]

sees teammate in a dead sprint towards the burster

shoots the burster anyway

[grave bobcat]

I just can't help but blow it up on them

It's funny every time

So this is karma if anything lol

[simple junco]

Get smartphowned

[jaunty atlas]

witness his doom

[tender terrace]

id initiate the vote kick just for the chance of it happening

[night marten]

they panic/don't understand it can be defused

[soft prawn]

[night marten]

honestly ogryns are bad at it

they're trained at lower levels to be burster snipers

[whole wharf]

Yeah, I like the force sword too, but I would love some more force melee weapons. Maybe like a force dagger or something would be pretty cool.

[night marten]

and then once everyone gets comfortable with dealing with in heresy+, ogryns still pop them from across the map right as they're about to be defused point blank next to a teammate

[grave bobcat]

But yeah

I've always seen that if they get chance to jump, I fucked it

[simple junco]

I'm already addicted to the combat knife, force knife would enable me too much

[whole wharf]

Bro same

The combat knife is so fun.

[high agate]

Is there any build that can hard carry in Damn rn? Or is psyker just not capable

[simple junco]

Hell, the jab also gets dogs off your teammates

[grave bobcat]

Be a good player?

[tender terrace]

not sure any class other than vet can truly "hard carry" in higher difficulty, simply because its shooters that make or break the game IMO

[grave bobcat]

I feel as though thats the biggest thing someone can do to complete Damn more often

[uncut hamlet]

So like, I have a question for yall

Why would I ever use this

[grave bobcat]

Lmao

[uncut hamlet]

When this exists

[simple junco]

Probably run void if you want to be balanced enough to hard carry. But yeah, learn to dodge and abuse your peril block and you'll rez everyone

[grave bobcat]

Troll blessing

[uncut hamlet]

+4% power if I never push or block

or

+50% minimum just by playing the game

[tender terrace]

also i tried out this 10% brain burst feat and it kept bb'ing the target i just killed, so.. is it just dogshit

[uncut hamlet]

That shotgunner squad that almost wiped us lol

[lucid mortar]

There's some blessing that says something like "[some stuff] max 4%. Stacks 5 times" and it's so ambiguous

[whole wharf]

It is very frustrating how being on heresy or higher means brain burst takes two shots just to kill most elites.

[tender terrace]

i panicked so hard, couldn't target them over the wall cause my char like min height had to keep jumping lmao

[whole wharf]

But, I guess it makes sense balance wise.

[lucid mortar]

like are the 5 stacks 4%, or can it be 20% total?

[high agate]

I can on Vet and Zealot even if my whole team is dog. Just havent found a good build for psyker.

[tender terrace]

only way you doin that as zealot is with a budget vet build sry bro

[uncut hamlet]

My surge would not target them, kept going for the walkers to my left despite having my cursor right over them

[uncut hamlet]

vet has some nice clutch potential with forcing shooters into melee

drawing aggro

[lucid mortar]

I've seen some crazy Ogryn carries

[high agate]

Ok...and?

[lucid mortar]

or clutches I guess

[high agate]

Looking for a non retarded answer if possible

[tender terrace]

i usually main vet, woulda mowed those shotgunners down in like 2 sec

[grave bobcat]

Gunners/Snipers/Trappers/Bombers/Shotgunners

Just to let you know what you CAN 1 tap

[uncut hamlet]

Wait

Guys

Excuse me what the fuck is fs thinking

[past ocean]

just cc at heresy or higher with lighting staff

[whole wharf]

Good to know.

[tender terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/wheel-of-fortune-wheel-wof-game-show-vanna-white-gif-19174111

[grave bobcat]

but tbh, I use it most vs Sniper/Bomber

Trapper if they're tryna scoot away

And if you're not using Surge, Bulwarks also

[night marten]

sounds like you want to hyper min/max, think vet is the better play

[tender terrace]

pretty sure BB is the best dps on the big boys and carapace no?

[grave bobcat]

Depends how close they are to you lol

[night marten]

plenty of psyker builds are fun and usable, but it's tough to argue they're "optimal" in the face of vet effectivness

[runic gate]

Flamers

[vivid merlin]

Bb is not the best dps on anything except with heavy caveats like best dps on something that runs outside your line of sight

[sacred lodge]

does the deflector perk work with frontal cone only or is it 360 degree like force sword block normally is?

[night marten]

deflector is a cone in front

[sacred lodge]

ah....

[sour bison]

do we even need brutal momentum on mk5? i think spam block-attack is enough

[grave bobcat]

I don't use Antax, but was told it stops at 3 enemies without it

[tepid sinew]

Why is the mk5 light attack so much stronger than the heavy attack?

[tender terrace]

just how the design works

[night marten]

also limbsplitter for a bunch of free extra damage on block attacks

if I remember

[grave bobcat]

Thats the blessing I forgot the name off

ty

[night marten]

brutal momentum and limbsplitter are the two BiS blessings for ant axe 5 I think

[sour bison]

right one can do this

[grave bobcat]

Still makes me smile what someone said yesterday about mk5

"Blocking in a corner slowly killing an infinite horde watching your teammates die"

[tepid sinew]

What perks on a mk5?

[grave bobcat]

Cause I know I've seen that happen lmao

[azure cave]

What's the best Mk duelling sword?

[lucid mortar]

4 or 5 I think

[wise pecan]

It’s only stronger vs maniac flesh (which happens to be the majority of specials)

[tender terrace]

its like 3 specials

but i guess counting in my head there maybe are only 6 lul

[wise pecan]

true yeah i wasn't really counting

i think it's the mutant, both flamers, and the rager

but the rager's not a special

[tender terrace]

nah one flamer is flak

iirc

[wise pecan]

head is maniac i believe

[tender terrace]

ah

[wise pecan]

despite wearing a bigass helmet lol

[tender terrace]

yeah combat axe is great but it sucks ass on maniac

[tepid sinew]

This is what I have at the moment

[wise pecan]

eh it does pretty good, just gotta light attack

[jaunty atlas]

2 fail in a row, in malice. wtf is happeing

[tepid sinew]

I replaced melee to poxwalkers with block efficiency

[tender terrace]

only common thread in those two is you, hate to tell you

[grave bobcat]

both flamers are full maniac

[jaunty atlas]

sounds like a me problem yeah

[grave bobcat]

if I remember ight but someone else can check while I'm in-game lol

[sour bison]

it oneshots lvl5 rager if one warpcharge or more

nice

[karmic quail]

Does anyone find that Kinetic Flayer\ helps them keep up warp stacks?

[jaunty atlas]

not really, why ?

[simple junco]

Yeah, but that's because I'm not running AB with a purg staff

[jaunty atlas]

but why

[simple junco]

Keeping it fresh

[jaunty atlas]

oh

[grave bobcat]

Make sure you heavy att 🙂

[simple junco]

Not everything needs to be optimal lol, the fun factor also kicks in here

[sour bison]

it is

[simple junco]

Debating swapping to void but I gotta see how it works on T5 first

[grave bobcat]

Your FS is much better than mine so should 1 tap without the 1 warp

[karmic quail]

If it has a 10% chance for a warp charge on kill every 15 seconds then that's theoretically 80% of your warp stack maintenance

[jaunty atlas]

that said i have way better results with void/anta 221133 than purg/fs 112222. probably because nobody wants to aim in that game

[outer kettle]

Is there a hidden mechanic for voidstrike? I saw a guy using secondary super fast

[sour bison]

maniacs have a bit of resistance

[grave bobcat]

I'm not sure what this has to do with what I said but fair enough

[jaunty atlas]

mid charging ? and sometimes flurry procs, sometimes not

[sour bison]

without warp charge

[drowsy fog]

Probably just not full charging

[dull cedar]

tfw

[outer kettle]

It's like 2 strikes every second

[grave bobcat]

Oh, unarmored rager

[sour bison]

yes

[drowsy fog]

Ah there's a blessing that double shots on crit

[sour bison]

armored one dies even without heavy lmao

[grave bobcat]

Yeah doesn't 1 tap that one, I'd need to use a different FS

[grave bobcat]

Yeah thought you'd be using the armored one lol

[long wharf]

has someone confirmed that with the Surge blessing?

[nimble needle]

I'm unaware of an animation cancel exploit on voidstrike

[outer kettle]

I'm guessing the guy has 100% crit rate since he's spamming it 24/7

[grave bobcat]

Since they're more common 😛

np

[sour bison]

i dont think they are

[grave bobcat]

In t5? I'd definitely say I encounter the armored one more often

And you can prob 1 tap the mauler too since mine comes close

[sour bison]

thats some nice fuckn sword

ouch

[outer kettle]

It's so weird though, feels like he skips the charging animation and just blast the voidstrike secondary really fast

[silk flax]

how many special attacks does it take to kill crusher with that force sword?

[simple junco]

Is it just me or does void do a bit too little damage to elites on T5?

[sour bison]

after two

[grave bobcat]

I mean it's the "all around" staff 😛

Can't be nuking them

[simple junco]

Lame

Gonna stick to purg for cc lol

[silk flax]

Nice do you have 25% carapace dmg?

[sour bison]

no carapace damage lol

[silk flax]

awww

[sour bison]

yeah

i can roll for it

[silk flax]

i wonder if you could it would be 2 shots maybe

[sour bison]

but i will lose maniac

dunno if worth it

[patent hatch]

👀

[sour bison]

it will

[patent hatch]

Carapace is better than maniac defo

[grave bobcat]

One of my FS 1 taps the crusher in perfect conditions so 2 shot definitely possible

[patent hatch]

Or or

Better idea

Use chain sword

[sour bison]

wat how

[patent hatch]

And one shot crushers

[grave bobcat]

perfect conditions, so 6 stacks, the sword itself is carapace + unyielding

Would almost never happen in an actual match 😛

[wanton sandal]

finally got malleus monstrum or w/e

got some really cool guys in a random pub to help out

[patent hatch]

Crit, Weak spot 6 stacks, charged hit, carapace and unyielding will one hit anything lol

[wanton sandal]

now, we drip

[grave bobcat]

Lmao tbf I didn't actually try to make it crit

Cause FS base crit is so low

That cba trying that many times for a crit

[patent hatch]

Valid

[grave bobcat]

• maintaining stacks, power stacks etc

[grim bay]

@wanton sandal get that black hood to match, tho red hood matches cloth too

[patent hatch]

I got a crit chain sword and Dueling sword that sound is a addiction

[sour bison]

didnt know 3 can roll to 4 wtf?

[wanton sandal]

yeah gotta get my missions in for the hood tho

[grim bay]

@sour bison it rolls into anything, no limit

[grave bobcat]

The chainsword is just awful for me

[wanton sandal]

i'll save for the store one in the meantime

[patent hatch]

It’s 90% looks for me tbh

[sour bison]

ahaha ok

[grave bobcat]

Its fun to swing really fast but its like hitting them with a duster

Yeah thats valid

[wanton sandal]

true af

[patent hatch]

And sound

[grave bobcat]

lmao looks like mine now

[patent hatch]

and the fact that’s it perfect so I have to use it

[outer kettle]

I think I figured out how he was spamming Void secondary really fast

[grave bobcat]

It's actually the 1 weapon I haven't used during my melee builds

[wanton sandal]

good upgrade?

[patent hatch]

Warp flurry and high charge speed

[grave bobcat]

So actually, gona use it now

[wanton sandal]

emperor gave me it

[simple junco]

Isn't warp flurry busted?

[grave bobcat]

For now

[patent hatch]

Yeah it’s great

[grave bobcat]

Busted as in, it doesn't work lol

[wanton sandal]

shhh, lest the daemons at fatshark hear you

[patent hatch]

Psyker is glitched to all hell rn tho

[simple junco]

I hope they do, since it doesn't work lol

[outer kettle]

If you add quell to your input it will skip that gauge and just fire it. Guess that guy was using it

[wanton sandal]

they'll fix it then kick psyker while he's getting up

[patent hatch]

pfft

Most annoying one is no quelling at 100% peril

Or the fact that warp battery still counts as 4 charges for most things

[tawny maple]

Missing T3 hood tho

[patent hatch]

Including the percentile damage it gives ya

[patent hatch]

Idk I like seeing my blue eyes

[sour bison]

4 stacks + flayer proc oneshots crusher

[simple junco]

Eh, they can't do psyker much worse than IRL damage so I have high hopes

[sour bison]

[wanton sandal]

i quite like the goggles, but i could do w/o the mask

[stray solar]

Greetings my lovely schizophrenics

How it do

[wanton sandal]

the voices are louder today

[patent hatch]

Yeah the black one from the shop is awsome af

[stray solar]

Unnnnnnfortunate

[tawny maple]

There isn't a pure black hood outside of T3 one so you either wear a mismatched headgear or no headgear at all 🤷‍♀️

[simple junco]

You were here the whole time though

[patent hatch]

👀

[grave bobcat]

If you crit without flayer

does it still 1 tap?

[patent hatch]

there’s the 150k one from the shop

Which is cool af

[wanton sandal]

the red t1 hood matches kinda with the belt sash

[tawny maple]

Its not pure black

[patent hatch]

Close enough to not notice

[tawny maple]

I need one from the trailer

[patent hatch]

I want the metal eye cover tbh

[stray solar]

Big ask I switched to zealot after 30 because psyker felt weak as shit I know the class is not but how fix

[patent hatch]

Embrace Psyker chad

[worn canopy]

Hey uh

[tawny maple]

there's supposed to be this plus hood aswell. I dont know where all the good datamined cosmetics went, we're just getting mediocre stuff in cash shop

[worn canopy]

Why can’t I brainburst poxbursters and kill them in 1

[stray solar]

Do I just farm warp charges and burn hordes?

[simple junco]

I made a cowboy vet alt because I was bored, I understand

[worn canopy]

I don’t remember this

[patent hatch]

Takes 1-3 in heresy+

[wanton sandal]

void, purg, and surge staff are all really good

[stray solar]

How do play psyker exactly

[worn canopy]

I did not remember this being a thing

[patent hatch]

A bit to vague to answer that

[worn canopy]

Perhaps my team squishied them

[tawny maple]

and turns out trauma is supposed to be shit lmao so might aswell forget it

[patent hatch]

Psyker is probably the most weird class so kinda hard to just give “this is how you play”

[tawny maple]

they said the damage values are incorrect on the table

[stray solar]

More accurate question would be how do I turn psyker into the monsters I see in heresy sometimes

[sour bison]

no, crusher have too much mealth

[patent hatch]

Lightning staff, learn animation cancels

[stray solar]

I see

Thank you

[sour bison]

crit will deal like 1500-1600 damage with heavy attack

[patent hatch]

TheAsianRobot and MILKandcookiesTV have solid Psyker content on YT for tutorials.

[tawny maple]

keep playing with the weapon and learning its strength/weakenesses. All 3 staffs are very good

same with melee, most of them are viable

[wanton sandal]

post your talents

[patent hatch]

I love it how at this point people say 3 staffs lmao

[stray solar]

Is gun psyker just shit compared to staff psyker?

[patent hatch]

No

It’s viable

[wanton sandal]

hes fine if played with cerebral

[patent hatch]

^

[tawny maple]

Recon lasgun with warp charges actually makes warp charges good

[patent hatch]

The thing I love about Psyker is they can fill any role with the right build

If you don’t have a vet you can be the vet

[stray solar]

Really? Is there any guns that work well on psyker because other classes besides the big lads just kinda have a wider selection

[patent hatch]

Sharp shooter even

[wanton sandal]

i see recon lasgun a lot more than the others

[tawny maple]

Pretty much this. Psyker is top tier good generalist and with surge he becomes a stagger monster. Nobody else can do that

[patent hatch]

Revolver and the rapid fire las gun

[stray solar]

Ok cowboy gat and accatran

[patent hatch]

Yeah

[stray solar]

I will remember this

[patent hatch]

AccTran is better tho

[stray solar]

Will miss my bolter

But eh

[tawny maple]

Its a breath of fresh air when you don't have to wait 5 seconds for reload anymore tbh

[patent hatch]

I’ve got 4 builds I swap between if you want specific builds

[stray solar]

I'm alright for now might take you up on that at some point

[patent hatch]

Just heading to work but would be happy to send you what I actually run once I’m home

[stray solar]

Same for me gotta fuck off to work too

[patent hatch]

😭

shit sucks

I’ve got 9 minutes till my 12 hour shift star’s

Starts

[stray solar]

5:51 in the morning and I've already been awake for an hour

12 hour

Jesus

[patent hatch]

I got up at 3:30am lol

[stray solar]

That is harsh as fuck

[patent hill]

Rip

[stray solar]

Working 12 hours no chance I'll ever do that

[patent hatch]

Rough shift but good team members and job so not to bad

Pays decent to

[stray solar]

Fair enough

[wanton sandal]

night shift?

[patent hatch]

Also I get the entire afternoon and evening off

[patent hatch]

Early morning

[wanton sandal]

ah

sorry eST

[patent hatch]

I’m BST

Or BST +1 rn

[stray solar]

UTC+1

[patent hatch]

I just like having a time zoned dedicated to my country

[stray solar]

Nice

[patent hatch]

Kinda sad how that’s my biggest flex

[stray solar]

Real torque you ever see a taxe zealot slaughter a demonhost in seconds once

Man

I saw that yesterday

Fuck me bloody

[patent hatch]

Idk zealot ain’t shit

I run a Diet zealot build on psyker

Most of the time

Chain sword and flamer 👌

[iron harness]

next brain magic confirmed.

[stray solar]

Force sword too good

[stray solar]

What did he mean by this

[iron harness]

floating fan m8, modeling glitch

[stray solar]

Phone screen

Pardon me could not see shit

Does the psyker ult stagger daemonhosts btw?

[bleak summit]

Can someone give me the stats that you want on Surge Staff?

[grave bobcat]

Crit bonus, dmg, charge rate

[bleak summit]

Makes sense, wasn't sure if it was worth investing in peril resist or not.

Ty

[uncut hamlet]

Dont think so

[stray solar]

Rip

[vital bough]

Man, Psyker really is one of the classes of all time

[wanton sandal]

peril resist is great, but not necessary

[potent echo]

(kind of)

[stray solar]

So it flinches

[potent echo]

Only when it is not attacking

[stray solar]

Unfortunate.

[wise pecan]

Question: how tf do y’all get out with a bang? The warp explosion doesn’t kill shit

[rough flint]

ragers/gunners

[wise pecan]

It doesn’t kill them either

And I literally can’t not be throwing games trying for it, because there is no solo mode

[rough flint]

yea true i had to do it with friends

[wanton sandal]

they gotta be injured previously. i got it entirely on accident during the beta after i staggered into a group of maulers

[wanton sandal]

there's a private lobby one

[wise pecan]

private lobby only works if you have a friend

[wanton sandal]

o

[grave bobcat]

I hate that it almost looks like him too lmfao

[wanton sandal]

and the warp is turning the friggin psykers gay

[drowsy fog]

home at last

[zealous bolt]

I wish people would stop memeing about that shit bag. They are only giving him exposure

[azure cave]

Is the Purgatus burn a Soulblaze effect?

[wanton sandal]

yea

[coarse ether]

is the soul blaze considered a warp attack?

[drowsy fog]

purg+AB+communion I usually get all 4 stacks back immediately after ulting

[wanton sandal]

ignore me dying

[drowsy fog]

well done sibling

[wanton sandal]

[magic burrow]

was playing around with the purge staff yesterday and ended up in a game with another purge Psyker and two flamer Zealots. That sure was something.

[wanton sandal]

lmao that sounds painful

[drowsy fog]

sounds warm

was it on the smelter map?

[magic burrow]

Ended up going way better than I thought it would, actually. but it was Malice, though.

[whole wharf]

Still yet to get that penance done.

Same with "Going out with a bang"

[wanton sandal]

i just got lucky with 3 ragers and 3 shotgunners

and i got em before my team

[whole wharf]

Both of those are my two hardest ones to do.

[grave bobcat]

You'll gett it by accident playing enough t4/5

[solar remnant]

Hell ya, did you have a full coordinated team or just kept doing runs with randoms?

[wanton sandal]

randoms

didnt tell em about it either

[whole wharf]

Damn, where can I find those randoms

[drowsy fog]

wow login queue first ive seen that

[solar remnant]

Noice same

[magic burrow]

also what feat works better for Purge. The six warp stack one, or the feat that puts four stacks of soulblaze on a random enemy when you gain a warp charge at maximum?

[whole wharf]

I found kinetic overload to be pretty fun and good with purgatus.

[wanton sandal]

which one's that?

[whole wharf]

But I also feel like 6 warp charges definitely amps the damage output.

Kinda hard to say which is best, hell, even kinetic flayer isn't bad with purgatus.

[wanton sandal]

if hte damage buff was 5% on charges i'd take battery

3%% idkk

[drowsy fog]

lemme just waggle my penances a bit too

[drowsy fog]

both have their merits, I prefer overload myself

[cyan notch]

not lifeleech 5

shame

[ancient ivy]

Oh yeah? beat this

[wanton sandal]

pog @drowsy fog

[whole wharf]

I guess like, 6 charges if you wanna maximize damage output, and then overload if you want more crowd control.

Cause it does prioritize elites too.

[drowsy fog]

I'm not so much a fan of battery, purg raw damage is low so how much of a difference is an extra 6% gonna make, best it does is give 2 more soulblaze stacks on ult with AB

[wanton sandal]

bat is more void

[drowsy fog]

yeah I feel the same

[whole wharf]

Yeah, and even those two extra stacks for kinetic barrier is not all that much of a difference either it feels like.

[wanton sandal]

not like i run it bc flayer is so fun for kkeeping my stacks

[drowsy fog]

a 6% bigger railgun hit sounds much better

[delicate acorn]

Just helped someone do Malleus Monstorum.

Y'all are are masochists.

[lucid mortar]

Hot take: the reward isn’t even that nice and it’s not even a display of any skill lol

[simple junco]

I run 6 stacks for the peril resist and it was niceee

[drowsy fog]

we didnt design the penance

[clear heath]

It isn't for the reward, it's for the completionism

[simple junco]

Damage is ehhh but it's still handy for FS

[potent echo]

There's an exploit spot you can easy solo found out the other day

[drowsy fog]

I like the armor but yeah all it communicates is that you asked people to let you do it

[simple junco]

If anything I think holding your own on T5 is a display of skill

[wanton sandal]

wait

does flayer proc on each burn tick??

[fresh reef]

made a very interesting discovery about Trauma

[wanton sandal]

epic

[drowsy fog]

it can yeah

[lucid mortar]

Facts

[fresh reef]

while the damage is piss poor at minimum charge, the stagger is always at the max at the epicenter regardless of charge

meaning knocking a crusher directly onto its ass at the cost of about 16 peril

while staggering any trash around it

[drowsy fog]

any damage you deal can flay

[cyan notch]

16 peril he says

more like 61

[potent echo]

Trauma rise up

[fresh reef]

you want a recording?

[cyan notch]

no its a joke

but theres also the annoying min charge delay with trauma

sometimes u just blank and gained a bunch of peril for nothing

[fresh reef]

aye that's true

@drowsy fog I don't know why I hadn't considered running flayer before but that's a great idea

[whole wharf]

Yeah, lot of Psyker stuff is really out here giving us peril without any charges.

[sour bison]

hate this

[whole wharf]

Or anything actually intended

[wanton sandal]

LMAO

unfortunate

[drowsy fog]

pffffft

[cyan notch]

pre good

[whole wharf]

I mean....

[cyan notch]

chrage rate sucks for void anyway

[fresh reef]

wait it does? why?

[sour bison]

void doesnt care about charge rate much

[cyan notch]

yea look above

[fresh reef]

misread that, my b

[sour bison]

1.6 min, 1.9 max

lol

[wanton sandal]

wtf that sucks

[fresh reef]

meanwhile trauma

[wanton sandal]

should be 2 max 1 min

i want some of whatever fatshark is msoking

[spark fractal]

none of the stats do THAT much, really, except damage and blast radius, you always want those

or crit rate for the staff that has that

[cyan notch]

yea the other staffs have decent charge rate benefits

not for void

[lucid mortar]

Damn, makes charge rate look almost as important as damage lol

[untold smelt]

Any tips on how to do achieve "out with a bang"?

[clear heath]

i mean, considering trauma damage, it probably is more important than damage

[spark fractal]

trauma is a pretty bad staff, though it does have the best blessing i've seen

[lucid mortar]

If you can get two casts off at the top end of charge rate versus the low end then yeah… I’d say dmg is a close second

[wanton sandal]

tell some friends you need help

[untold smelt]

if i had some lol

nevermind then forget i asked

[spark fractal]

it just takes a very specific set of circumstances

[wanton sandal]

nah just tell some randos what you're doing. find a group of maulers or ragers and bb them once to get them to health

then yknmow

pop like a cork

[spark fractal]

3 elites don't usually live long enough, and you also need to chip them down because on malice your explosion won't kill them at full health

[untold smelt]

tried that, everyones hates me now. Even if i tell people, all day today has been blowing myself up and my teammates killing them even tho i said im doing the penace

[fresh reef]

I love wasting crafting resources ‼️

[wanton sandal]

can you tell which is which?

[wanton sandal]

tragic

[fresh reef]

on the bright side, didn't consecrate that on a purple>orange

[sour bison]

it doesnt suck it doesnt work lmao

[frozen rivet]

They need to fix that soon I swear. make exp give us emperors gifts every fixed amount after lvl 30 or something

[fresh reef]

different leg plate symbol woah

[sour bison]

blessing with 0 effect

[wanton sandal]

not to mention the paisley pattern (black on black you can't even see it)

[fresh reef]

what

[wanton sandal]

look very carefully

[spark fractal]

well you have to ask nicely, you can't just go blow yourself up and hope they comply

[fresh reef]

I mean like

I can definitely see something

[lucid mortar]

Wao very status! 😂

[wanton sandal]

truly

[fresh reef]

it's like, maybe 2 pixels down on an rgb color map

maybe

[wanton sandal]

at least give me like i dunno a leg brace to get rid of the warp in my leg or something

[fresh reef]

edging 1.5 pixels

[wanton sandal]

fr

their cosmetic designer wiped his hands and called it a day after pasting a pattern on and downing the brightness by like 2%

[lucid mortar]

Or reward a chest piece made of boss parts stitched together

[untold smelt]

I meant blowing up as in the blow up thing the pysch does lol

[fresh reef]

reject penance cosmetics, become mentally unstable

[wanton sandal]

that'd be badass

[untold smelt]

Everyone thinks I’m throwing but don’t understand that’s what I’m suppose to do for the penace when I explain it to randoms

[wanton sandal]

reject humanity

[fresh reef]

nobody cared who I was til I put on the mask

[spark fractal]

that is a really nice hood...but my face is actually cool looking with the glowing eyes, so

[cyan notch]

wdym

[wanton sandal]

man i didnt even realize you could get glowing eyes till i visited the churigon for a checkup today

[fresh reef]

I like it because it makes her look older, somehow

not sure exactly why, just changes the vibe that much

[lucid mortar]

I roll with prison garb and toilet bowl helm until they fix surge animations

[wanton sandal]

based urinal head

[bold flint]

no hotfix for the rave staff yet is there

[fresh reef]

are these things related?

would be really neat if the urinal blocked the flashing blue light

[lucid mortar]

lol

I actually would love a literal urinal helm. It could flush when you purge peril

but probably not canon unfortunately

[lucid mortar]

Fatt shark hot fixes seems to take a week minimum if it’s a client issue

[cyan notch]

fix in jan

[lucid mortar]

Which I guess makes logistical sense

[lucid mortar]

For real…

[cyan notch]

probs

[lucid mortar]

At least blind me with snowflakes for the holidays

[ornate hamlet]

have they announced when the next update or hotfix is?

[left basin]

HAVE THEY ANNOUNCED WHEN BUF BRANE BORST?

[cyan notch]

no

and no

[left basin]

https://tenor.com/view/now-dammit-skeletor-gif-13398390

[ornate hamlet]

man I’d like to be able to use surge again

[quaint eagle]

so i hate to ask this, but what are psykers aiming to prioritize for the most part as their class anywho? you got your brainblast for some elites which is great and all on lower difficulties that is, and some warp shoving and shenanigans for crowds. Is it just some weird hybrid between everyone else or cc rather than damage?

[full coral]

I wonder when they gonna fix the surge staff fr

[cyan notch]

next year

[ornate hamlet]

next year as in not New Years, but 365 days approx

fat shark timing ofc

[cyan notch]

after sienna’s 4th career

[ornate hamlet]

after the 40k Amazon show comes out

[lucid mortar]

CC until we get some rework from Fatt shark in the year 40k

[simple junco]

So like, why is surge being used for close range CC when the crusher exists for Zealots that do that same thing but better?

[ornate hamlet]

fatshark devs are so committed to lore accuracy, they are actually waiting till the year 40k to make changes

[cyan notch]

surge is ranged stun

[ornate hamlet]

weird autocorrect

[wanton sandal]

also multistuun

[cyan notch]

practically infinitely spammable

[simple junco]

and the crusher is an aoe stun in a near similar area

I guess surge can stun behind cover?

[lucid mortar]

This, I don’t think any other class can handle a room of shooters as well as psyker with surge

[simple junco]

and it also works better against shooter squads

[left basin]

BB insinuates it's supposed to be a threat remover, staves suggest it's a ranged CC cow (???), voidstrike suggests someone at fatshark had an aneurysm at some point, the class design suggests that the entire team is probably did

[pure owl]

braced veteran

[wanton sandal]

voidstrike is epic

doont be mean to it

[cyan notch]

void is great

horde clear whenever u need it close or far range

decent stun

[ornate hamlet]

it’s best not to think about it. the most optimal playstyle is cc at this point, and bb’ing the 1 hit enemies infrequently like snipers

[pure owl]

grenade on demand

[lucid mortar]

Unfortunately I’m not familiar with vet stuff

[left basin]

it's epic because the thought process behind it's design was something alongside of a early chatbot trying to form actual speech

[pure owl]

fast shooty gun and vet can get 300 toughness with a lot of toughness regen on with range and ranged kills

[left basin]

when they slap a nerf on the R spam it's suddenly going to be less than appetizing as an anti-everything stick

[ornate hamlet]

don’t forget that we also have guns

[quaint eagle]

Braced series is a great gun for Vets but I'm not sure if they're the most amazing for a room of ranged units

[ornate hamlet]

that appear in the shop 10x more often than staves

[pure owl]

that's like, the express purpose of them

[lucid mortar]

Sure that’s nice and maybe just as good. As psyker though I can block ranged and not even aim to cc ranged behind cover

[pure owl]

and hordes

[quaint eagle]

mainly because especially during volley, you don't have much control on headshots unless you're tap firing and you're also likely to knock over several enemies without killing them

[left basin]

https://tenor.com/view/circlejerk-gif-19739917

we are the hive

[pure owl]

why would you need control for headshots

it's braced

mow them down

[lucid mortar]

Surge just goes thru walls and in weird places lol. It’s honestly kinda busted if it didn’t blind you

[pure owl]

you have 75% damage reduction

[quaint eagle]

For the reason that you knock them down rather than killing them especially on higher difficulties and most people aren't inclined to run straight after them behind cover

[pure owl]

kill one you probably have an extension on the duration

[quaint eagle]

or especially when they're on elevated areas and places we can't access as players either

[pure owl]

you can build vet to just stand there and face of against shooters

[left basin]

one thing i really want (for some reason) is for the surge LMB attack to be a strong single target lightning bolt

[quaint eagle]

I mean, if you've found that it works then good on you. But on higher difficulties, I'd greatly prefer that Vets know that their Priority Targets are actually dead, not just knocked over

[lucid mortar]

Yeah it’s odd to me that purg staff gets a unique left click but the others all have the same

[quaint eagle]

I love braced guns and used to use them plenty, but I stopped on T4/5 for the issues i mentioned

[left basin]

eh probably happened around when the investors decided to show up at the office to check on progress

dont get me wrong i love the schwoomp that the staff lmb does

[jaunty atlas]

pretty sure only one spec of the zealot was ready, pyromancer. and they scraped the rest asap

[left basin]

but not on everything

[jaunty atlas]

and now we're psykinetic wtf

[ornate hamlet]

could be they wanted purge to exclusively be short range. still weird, purge lmb goated

[pure owl]

is psykinetic aura broken

[cyan notch]

they just copy pasted flamestorm staff from vt2

[pure owl]

or just worded poorly

[half iron]

purge lmb is swag

[cyan notch]

it had short range flamethrower too

[left basin]

just watch it

they'll add a shotgun staff

[drowsy fog]

I wonder what other subclasses zealot is gonna get

[pure owl]

way it's worded leads me to believe that if I or someone in coherency kills an elite I get the cdr

[ornate hamlet]

I didn’t play vt2 on release, was it this lacking in content too?

[pure owl]

but it's not working

[pure owl]

no lol

[wanton sandal]

also is it me or is the schizo psyker the most talkative of all the voices?

[ornate hamlet]

figures

[pure owl]

it was buggy but it had content

[left basin]

absolutely not

[drowsy fog]

im redownloading vt 2 right now

[left basin]

3 different classes on 5 different characters

[half iron]

which one? they all are schizos

[ornate hamlet]

it had 3 specs for each character on drop right?

only the 4th careers were ever added in

[left basin]

the "beloved" one

?

everyone else is more or less grounded

[half iron]

the best one!

[drowsy fog]

yep 3 careers each pretty sure it was like... melee focus, range focus, tank focus kinda deal

[ornate hamlet]

lmao

[left basin]

kooky, but not "i'm going to stab you because the voice said things"

[ornate hamlet]

did they like downsize their dev team from vt2 to darktide by like 70%

how did this happen

[pure owl]

15 classes, 13 unique maps, a finished crafting system, lots of weapon skins, (mostly) unique weapons for each character

[wanton sandal]

i love my beloved

nad letting eVERYONE know about him

[half iron]

my beloved loves you

[left basin]

finished game, they only needed to slap features on top of it

it was vt2, not vt1

[lucid mortar]

A big investor with a board bought them

[wanton sandal]

my beloved says you're bad for my health

[half iron]

my beloved believes you should watch me scan in medbay

[left basin]

the craft system early was absolutely dogshit though

[pure owl]

it was there tho

you had access to it

[drowsy fog]

gotta spread the content thin so every little drop keeps them playing 🙃

[ornate hamlet]

yea

[pure owl]

also vermintide didn't have a great loot system

but it was better than this garbage

[ornate hamlet]

some crafting > rng mobile game store every hour

[wanton sandal]

crafting system was nice

[drowsy fog]

I miss loot dice and grims being worth grabbing

[wanton sandal]

choose what weapon you want and keep crafting

[grave bobcat]

Same

[ornate hamlet]

the fact that daemons don’t have a loot die equivalent

or just normal monstrosities

[pure owl]

I do like that grims are thrown into their own missions now

[cyan notch]

player agency > checking shop every hour

[left basin]

i miss the old halberd on krubs

[pure owl]

guardian spear when?

[drowsy fog]

you dont have to miss it

you can still play vt

[left basin]

were they actually bought by anyone or is this hearsay?

i've heard it a couple times

never bothered to check

[drowsy fog]

tencent

[grave bobcat]

Was gonna say check yourself? 😄

[wanton sandal]

oh yeah tencent

[left basin]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-bubbs-dog-mean-growl-angry-gif-16046151

oh my fucking god

[drowsy fog]

more like ten centuries before a game is finished haha... ha... haaa...

[pure owl]

mfw bought by chinese conglomerate

[left basin]

nah this is reallllllly bad

[pure owl]

wonder if we could get banned by talking shit about the ccp

[grave bobcat]

Pessimism fits really well with Psyker chat

[drowsy fog]

tencent bad

[left basin]

nah it's just that tencent are an equivalent to a politician child predator in terms of business practices

[wanton sandal]

reinstalling to fix memleaks, hope it doesn't magically delete my progress

[lucid mortar]

I mean it’s still on Fattshark to manage that relationship and the promises they make to customers

[pure owl]

nah I feel with the sheer volume of negativity around the predatory practices that fatshark may push back against tencent a bit

I hope atleast

actually take hold of their game

[grave bobcat]

Spoiler: Tencent don't care

[drowsy fog]

tencent want moooooooney

[grave bobcat]

Fatshark on the other hand

[wanton sandal]

meh on the flip side with a parent company, they prolly get a lot more funds to work on the game with

[left basin]

are lazy slobs

[wanton sandal]

which is prolly why it looks real good

[grave bobcat]

#Doubt

[wanton sandal]

live service is CRINGE though