psyker-class

[hardy socket]

i just realized i'm going for a helmet that does not go with my fit

so i'm just gonna stop doing penances

[half iron]

look goes hard, but not my style

[drowsy fog]

Pick n mix isn't impossible right now, unless there was another update I got it after the last one

[hardy socket]

the fit here is what i want

[tawny steppe]

it definitely is, you just gotta be stupid lucky

[hardy socket]

the closest thing would be the grey hood and the grey robes

[sharp ibex]

Did it yesterday, was pretty easy

[drowsy fog]

It's a stars align kinda thing for sure

[sharp ibex]

yah, get a bunch of shotgunners/gunners in a row

[half iron]

i want more comically large collars like the ones in the cosmetic shop

let me feel like a psyker

[hardy socket]

oh i already have the fit i want

damn

[drowsy fog]

God I hate those astronaut domes lol

[half iron]

then call an emergency meeting

[sharp ibex]

Dw, the final career that comes out is the space marine version of your class

Then they reveal Darktide 2

[half iron]

interesting way to spell “ratling version of your class”

[sharp ibex]

Well there is that

At least they can actually hide behind cover

[half iron]

the astronaut dome psyker outfit from the cosmetic shop
chef’s kiss

less sleeves, more pipes, and funny collar

[warped perch]

isn't that outfit in the cosmetic shop already

[sharp ibex]

Man I just want another game where I can play as chaos like in Space Marine. I'd love to be a khorne blood priest or something.

[half iron]

eh, a diet version of that fit

[warped perch]

I mean it's pretty much the same

Except it's not a robe

[half iron]

it’s not long enough

[warped perch]

You mean you want the robe?

[half iron]

the longer your coat the stronger you are. that’s wizard rules

[steep bridge]

Psykers should have trench coats for drip

[half iron]

psykers should come with capes

[dense cloud]

lol the 3 stamin curios are bugged

i got 2 on aond im only geting like 2 stam

instead of 6

[hardy socket]

yeah but that's the psyker without the helmet from dow1

don't think they have this helmet

[noble sluice]

im just waiting for a psycher that doesnt have an nfl stadium strapped to their neck

[simple junco]

That's half the fun though

[half iron]

more large collars on psyker plz uwu

[boreal wave]

https://preview.redd.it/9z2yx48uhw981.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=d87c385742cb7b4d346df85ef4dfba803854c5ce

I'd really like that coat

[drowsy fog]

The current outfit in the cash shop would be great without the dome and more so without the ugly ass camo

[glacial abyss]

true asf lmao

the camo looks so ass where the fuck is the red and black i swear also zealot been having mad drip for 2 shop rotations straight

[noble sluice]

just waiting for them to add the astartes psyker drip

[glacial abyss]

i spent all 30k of my aquilas

[high agate]

would coom

[glacial abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/wtf-blade-wesley-snipes-what-the-f-blade-wtf-gif-22565829

[hardy socket]

psyker krieg?

would be nice

[warped perch]

The cosmetics that looks like this is pretty minimalist tbh. the collar is small and the headgear too

[glacial abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/andrea-kidd-gif-18670899

[noble sluice]

they are probably gonna run out of psyker cosmetic ideas first yknow

[hardy socket]

nah

mage types

[drowsy fog]

Zealot has fantastic cosmetics yea

[half iron]

hopefully they won’t run out of ideas for funny collars🥺

[drowsy fog]

Picked up the current one myself

[hardy socket]

you could literally just make a psyker version of every veteran cosmetic

[noble sluice]

lol

[high agate]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgoHM_AqpqM

[noble sluice]

you guys notice that all the psyker pants are like skinny jeans

[high agate]

Thanks youtube

[glacial abyss]

yeah but u cant have a krieg psyker that looks goofy asf! psykers gotta be more free with the head drip. also they need more zealot looking psyker cosmetics like the hood in the store that shit goes hard asf!

[half iron]

best part

[hardy socket]

also would be funny to have an ogryn with the lil psyker cosmetics

[drowsy fog]

Chemicals in the water turn the friggin xenos gay

[noble sluice]

i think it would turn eldar straight

[glacial abyss]

eldar are my favorite faction no cap

[noble sluice]

the ogryn has some cool hats

maybe we'll get some hats

[noble sluice]

top hat psyker

[simple junco]

Give psykers ogryn hats

[hardy socket]

this character would go hard

[simple junco]

Same size

[hardy socket]

also an idea for a staff, a necromancer one that can pick up certain enemies in exchange for warp

[hot tulip]

Give me an ork psyker class pls

[hardy socket]

or summon like psychic dogs or somethin

[drowsy fog]

If megamind was an 80s cartoon villain

[half iron]

the psyker that exclusively revives poxwalker hordes:

[hardy socket]

i wish the character customization had a lil slider for how big my head was

[glacial abyss]

ong

[hardy socket]

so i could make a pinhead ogryn and a megamind ass psyker goblin

[drowsy fog]

If we get another class it's bound to be tech priest

[boreal wave]

Only thing I think the staffs need right now is thematic primary fires. A line of electricity, an "inflict wounds" style effect, etc. Also, remove that damn input delay on primary fires.

[hardy socket]

i want a lil mechanicus guy

[glacial abyss]

Tech priests no. Enginseers yes

[drowsy fog]

And we'll lose psyker and zealot mains to it

[hardy socket]

skitarii would be the coolest class to add

[half iron]

i can’t ditch my beloved

[drowsy fog]

If you play a tech priest Hadron doesn't treat you like a dumb ass lol

[glacial abyss]

impossible to have techpriest because they’re too high ranking and wouldn’t make sense. Skitarii also wouldn’t make sense as they’re strictly aedeptus mechanicus troops and you wouldn’t see them embedded in the inquisition. Enginseer is the only one that makes sense as they aren’t particularly high ranking and are common in astra militarum forces

[fringe garden]

Lol, my first character was a psyker.. checked constantly for force swords to get deflector for the first week... No luck. Level up a zealot to 30, get a good setup, figure I'll check the store on my psyker and bam.. deflector.

[glacial abyss]

fat shark will never make skitarii or techpriests. Your only hopes are tech adepts or (even better lore wise,) enginseers

[hardy socket]

might add a vindicare assassin maybe?

some strictly sniper type

[glacial abyss]

No. Way too high ranking

[fringe garden]

I don't see how anything that doesn't start off as some sort of reject can join.

[glacial abyss]

vindicare assassins are extremely rare and made specifically and fully under control of their organization

[fringe garden]

I'll bet money we get a Ratling sniper

[glacial abyss]

that’s what I was thinking

[fringe garden]

They talk about them in the dialogue

[glacial abyss]

they talk about them way too fucking much

[noble sluice]

We might maybe get a votan dude too

[glacial abyss]

and I know some mf wants to be a tiny little shitter

[hardy socket]

me

[boreal wave]

I would just find it weird if we get a dedicated sniper class when the current veteran is already called a "sharp shooter" and has the skills to be a sniper.

[hardy socket]

closest thing to a goblin is a psyker

[half iron]

a ratling and an ogryn in the same squad. best frenz

[fringe garden]

We could easily see some sort of squat that isn't part of one of the leagues

[foggy thorn]

Whats the best way to do the going out with a bang penance

[glacial abyss]

exactly what I was thinking. But I still think ratlings would be possible because of the dialogue

[fringe garden]

Like the ones that have been on Necromunda all this time

[drowsy fog]

Have friends herd elites together while you build peril

[boreal wave]

Well yeah of course. I wanna see a ratling, too.

[hardy socket]

some kinda abhuman mutant maybe?

cause they do not fucking stop talking about them

[glacial abyss]

I would say yeah to squats but I doubt it because they’re not human. Extremely unlikely for fat shark to do it

[noble sluice]

Would love more abhumans

[fringe garden]

Squats are abhumans just like ogryn

[drowsy fog]

Idk jack about 40k Lore so I have no ideas lol

[noble sluice]

We might be able to do a servite of some kind

[fringe garden]

Though they also have their own established civilization.

[drowsy fog]

Maybe we liberate a medicae servitor who fuckin knows lol

[noble sluice]

Lmao

[hardy socket]

for the new darktide class: a mountain gorilla with a big stick

[fringe garden]

An Inquisitor warband can justify about anything short of an alien. Even then, they could have a Jokaero.

[bleak tulip]

bold of you to assume we get a character before 2024

[glacial abyss]

yeah you’re right but the imperium classifies them as xenos

ogryn is like “ah you’re human enough” but for squats and league of votann they’re counted as aliens

even though realistically they are abhuman

[drowsy fog]

They'd get special dialogue from the medicae stations questioning why they get to be freed from the shackles

[fringe garden]

The Imperium has made use of squats on Necromunda for ages. They know they are abhumans. What they didnt know was that they secretly have an entire civilization in the galactic core

[noble sluice]

Vermintide 2 still needs Siena's 4th career so yea gonna be awhile

[fringe garden]

The galactic core being analogous to the mountains that fantasy dwarves love under

[hardy socket]

they could add lil pets for each class

[vivid merlin]

can a rogue trader become romantically involved with a xeno

[glacial abyss]

no this is warhammer

[hardy socket]

like a lil raven that flies around the psyker

[glacial abyss]

lol

[bleak tulip]

can love bloom on a battlefield

[cold heath]

can they resist it?

[half iron]

servo skulls are very cute and pattable

[drowsy fog]

Does love even exist in 40k

[glacial abyss]

yes

[hardy socket]

yeah a lil servo skull flying around you would be cool

[half iron]

he is called my beloved for a reason.

[glacial abyss]

big e

[bleak tulip]

the love we share

[cold heath]

khorne loves blood

[drowsy fog]

Also I question the explicator knowing what flowers are

[glacial abyss]

the love we share

[bleak tulip]

she lived in the torrents and likely has seen some fucked up "flowers"

[hardy socket]

just found out about warp charges at level 25

[drowsy fog]

Good, you're used to ignoring them

[hardy socket]

apperantly it does more damage

[bleak tulip]

you dont understand they get good when you have 6 of them

muh soulblaze

[half iron]

[hardy socket]

what is it like 3% more damage?

[cyan notch]

midblaze

[bleak tulip]

dogblaze

[noble sluice]

3% so everything takes the same amount of hits to kill anyways

[half iron]

swagblaze

[bleak tulip]

ha ha one of the classic blunders https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/786208719200583710/1044675705998409769/image.png

there is like 5 instances where it does something

checkmate stack haters

[ornate hamlet]

hey question about feats. 3rd column, middle option (Psykentic's Aura). does that apply to you as well or only your teammates?

[simple junco]

You as well

[ornate hamlet]

oh nice

thanks

[noble sluice]

how much yall wanna bet they nerf psyker cause its keeping up with the other classes

[dire carbon]

How about I just spray water at my enemies instead

[simple junco]

Vet is 100% getting the next nerf hammer

[drowsy fog]

Yiiiiiiikes

[noble sluice]

lol 2% burn

[steep bridge]

how

[noble sluice]

thats fucking wild dude

[dire carbon]

Bought it anyway, as a keepsake

[drowsy fog]

There should be a higher minimum honestly

[half iron]

the burn roll of all time

[noble sluice]

i hope they allow us to increase the percentages at some point so we can get above 80% on stats

[steep bridge]

This is definitely one of the staves of some time

[noble sluice]

i wanna see a gun with 2% ammo now

[dense cloud]

any one been able to rol t4 sprint effeicentie ?

on curio?

[cyan notch]

yes

[dense cloud]

hmm how mutch is it 15 or 20 ?

been trying to rol it for lover 1 hour Xd

[grave bobcat]

Isn't it like 12%

[dense cloud]

so i gave up on it and went with gunner resist

thats t 3

12% is t3

[grave bobcat]

I've never seen it higher so gl

[dense cloud]

ye i been roloing for 1 hour and stil havent seen it

[grave bobcat]

I don't think it goes higher

im mid game so can't check

but go to curios list

[dense cloud]

aah you not lvl 30 yet then

ow wait i read that wrong Xd

[grave bobcat]

Yep I'm definitely not level 30 🥲

Funny

[dense cloud]

i read it wrong XD

i just cheack the curio list but its datamanide bs

like i have had higer roles on some of the itngs the show there

[grave bobcat]

You're not likely to find a more reliable source

[dense cloud]

i have roled 15 % stam regen

it shows tings not in the game yet

like cooldwon

never ever seen that

or toughnes reduction

[drowsy fog]

You can get cool down on curios

[dense cloud]

wait what

[drowsy fog]

I have... at least one

Maybe 2

[dense cloud]

screeb sgit okz

screen shot plz

[drowsy fog]

At work can't help you

[dense cloud]

1-4% Cooldown Reduction ?

you have this ?

[drowsy fog]

It's either 3 or 4 yeah

[dense cloud]

wtf

[bleak tulip]

+3-4% Combat Ability Regeneration

[dense cloud]

yes combat i have

but not cooldown

1-4% Cooldown Reduction

this

is what it says it cvan rol

[drowsy fog]

That's what it's referring to

[bleak tulip]

it would be the same fuckin thing anyway

[drowsy fog]

What else is there a cool down on

[dense cloud]

+3-4% Combat Ability Regeneration

1-4% Cooldown Reduction

so this is the same ting ?

[drowsy fog]

Yes, nothing else has a cooldown

[dense cloud]

the the are saying on yt you cna role both ``

[drowsy fog]

Neat

[dense cloud]

withc is bs

[azure cave]

Is psyker still bugged or did they hotfix the peril issue?

[bleak tulip]

both are dog so

who cares lmao

[warm delta]

I've never seen 1-4% Cooldown Reduction this

[dense cloud]

ye same never seen it

but if u read up peopel saying th4e have it

[bleak tulip]

https://darkmass.gg/curios its not listed as disabled on darkmass so I bet it exists

[dense cloud]

but cant show screenshot cos at work

[bleak tulip]

its just dog

I might have even seen it and just mentally blanked out because who cares

[dense cloud]

i roled for over hour on lvl 30 high end curios neve seen some of the tongs on it

[bleak tulip]

tongs?

[dense cloud]

oops typo

[grave bobcat]

I have 4% Combat ability but the CD reduction one can't be rolled 🙂

[bleak tulip]

my man you gotta calm down and type properly your shit is messed up lmao

[dense cloud]

tings

i have 212 $ combat ablity to so

but it s 12%

XD

[grave bobcat]

I was hoping the flat CDR curio perk would like reduce cooldowns on stuff like brainburst every 15s

[timber shale]

That would be interesting

[warm delta]

not going to make huge difference even if it does, prolly 1 sec less with 12% cd red

[simple junco]

That would be cool

[bleak tulip]

either way I wouldnt be surprised if the redundant cooldown shit is an indication that there used to be two active abilities in the game for characters and they just left that shit in

and yeah cooldowns are so fast anyway why waste a perk on that shit

even the damage resists are better

[timber shale]

It would be -7.2s on your ult if you got both CD perks on all 3 curios

[brazen blaze]

Does anyone know what the dump stat is for the flamer? Is it mobility?

[bleak tulip]

its always mobility

[drowsy fog]

Eh they're there and I don't hate them so they can stay

[bleak tulip]

if you wanna dodge, dont use a ranged weapon for it

also even 0% mobility still lets you dodge

[drowsy fog]

Fucking bonus exp and ordos can burn

[bleak tulip]

thats probably the mentality that gave us redundant perks like cooldown and sprint efficiency and cost reduction

[drowsy fog]

I'm already max level and have more money than I'll ever need (never said that before)

[bleak tulip]

but yeah theyre still better than the ones that literally do nothing so fair

[drowsy fog]

I have like 400k just chilling, burn it on anything 350+ in the shop

[bleak tulip]

250k and I even bought the black hood I'll never use

[half iron]

i’m more into the collars than the hoods

[drowsy fog]

Calm down

[half iron]

hoods make me feel edgy and un-swag😠

[teal cargo]

most of the secondary stats on curios prob don do much

[half iron]

it’s like the opposite of swag

[drowsy fog]

And what do collars make you feel?

[half iron]

swag

[teal cargo]

what collars are there?

i don like hoods either 😔

they hide your hair and all

[half iron]

like, 3-4 collars or something.
2 cosmetic shop
beta helm + collar
mortis operative mask + collar

[drowsy fog]

I got my eye on you

[teal cargo]

two collars in the shop?

🤔

[half iron]

they’re attached to the 11$ usd outfits

[drowsy fog]

Oh the astronaut domes? Those are ugly af

[teal cargo]

oh oof real money swag

i just run with no headgear

[half iron]

you’re ugly af😠😠😠
dw you are swag somewhat🥺

[drowsy fog]

Don't use headgear on my zealot either

Wow rude

[half iron]

sowwy but i had to be defensive for someone insulting my collars

[teal cargo]

Maybe Stamina regen does something?

or i guess more hp or toughness 😔

block efficiencies a good one

Surge is considered good

[simple junco]

Good users are rare though

[teal cargo]

although "improved" VFX is pretty hard to see while using it

[half iron]

surge is supportive but it doesn’t feel cool

[timber shale]

Surge is probably the most meta staff on damnation

But I prefer purgatus

[drowsy fog]

All 3 staves are good

[half iron]

#PURGATUSSWEEP

[simple junco]

I've seen more Trauma staves on T5 than surge

[teal cargo]

only way you can use Surge poorly is spamming at hordes

other than that stunning gunners or any special is good

yea surge got long range and can hit through cover

[timber shale]

We must live in different dimensions

[teal cargo]

wtf

i never see trauma cept by trauma enjoyers

[drowsy fog]

But purg gives you the sweet sensation of holy flame cleansing these wretched halls

[half iron]

my beloved guides the shock of all surge users

[timber shale]

It’s mostly just that surge CCs absolutely anything except bosses

[teal cargo]

Purg looks cool though

[half iron]

so true bestie

[teal cargo]

better cc for mixed hordes

[half iron]

purge feels cooler

[simple junco]

Probably. Purg is the most common too

[teal cargo]

I see mostly Surge and Void tbh

[timber shale]

Purge can’t stop a mutant or crusher

Surge can

[drowsy fog]

Yes it can

[simple junco]

Yes they can lol

[teal cargo]

Surge also shoves poxwalkers away

[simple junco]

Also bb stuns

[drowsy fog]

Just takes a moment

[teal cargo]

Purge i don think stuns mutants

[burnt fjord]

How do yall deal with shotgunners w/ purge?

[timber shale]

Surge is literally the only thing that can stop a mutant

[drowsy fog]

It's certainly not as good as surge at stunning but it's there

[teal cargo]

i mean not poxwalkers uhh poxbursters

[half iron]

in my experience, carefully

[teal cargo]

Yea pretty sure only surge can stop mutants

[drowsy fog]

Same way we deal with everything else

Cleansed in holy flame

[timber shale]

They’re literally immune to stagger

[simple junco]

Not to mention mutants aren't exactly a huge threat once you learn to dodge and position properly

Sure, it can put you in a bad spot, but so can literally anything else

[half iron]

“yes beloved, the barrel is about to explode!” moment

[teal cargo]

I have never seen anything except surge or death interrupt a mutie charge

[steep bridge]

Ogryn can charge into charging Mutie to stop it

[teal cargo]

oh yea thas true

ogryn big fat

Zealot cannot interupt and just gets grabbed

[timber shale]

Hardly relevant in a staff debate

[teal cargo]

really annoying when trying to do achievement

[timber shale]

I’d love to hear what blessings you think interrupt mutants

[hardy lily]

Is there any version of the psyker voices that hates the voice

[simple junco]

How so? It's an ability that bridges the limitations of Purgatus

Not to mention terrifying barrage exists

[remote tusk]

stepped away for a few hours. Are we still doing the "my stick is better than your stick" civil war?

[shut thorn]

People are still comparing each other's staves.........

🙄

[simple junco]

Pics or it didn't happen

[cyan notch]

my staff is pretty short

[teal cargo]

I jus wanted to talk bout curios

[hardy lily]

Does something like a "self" exist inside of you? That which you call "self" serves as nothing more than a mask to cover your own being. In this era of ready-made 'truths', "self" is just something used to preserve those positive emotions that you occasionally feel... Another possibility is that "self" is a concept you conveniently borrowed under the logic that it would endow you with some sense of strength...

[teal cargo]

stupid ordo dockets

[half iron]

stave measuring contests are the best way to use this chat

[teal cargo]

block cost reduction seems the best one

[shut thorn]

[teal cargo]

XP seems like trash 😢

[half iron]

my beloved recommends i do not read that

[shut thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/vermintide-zealot-waiting-gif-25557244

[remote tusk]

utter not that three-fold lie: I am I

[steep bridge]

my staff smarter than you, dodge this you filthy casual

[teal cargo]

Purgs got that cool firebending animation

[cyan notch]

20% toughness reduction huh

[hardy lily]

Damn that's insane to get a 17 with 3 max rolls on perfect stats

[simple junco]

Purgatus + combat knife = cooler than you

[teal cargo]

yea gunner res sucks

[half iron]

purg also shoots blue fire. it’s cooler than red fire, i learned that when i was younger

[teal cargo]

well its meh

[shut thorn]

las pistol + combat knife = cowboy mode

[simple junco]

Yee your last haw, kindred

[remote tusk]

is toughness regen speed still bugged?

[teal cargo]

yee lhaw

i do 2 hp

and 1 wound

[shut thorn]

equip combat blade, become invincible AND cool

[hardy lily]

I'm making do with like 15% toughness +4% toughness +20% toughness Regen + some useless dumb random shit

[teal cargo]

200+ hp life 😆

[remote tusk]

bonus xp stack op

[hardy lily]

Leaning towards corruption resist if I can get it

[supple skiff]

pay out my post lvl 30 xp as crafting mats kthx

[drowsy fog]

I heard corruption resistance is bugged and doesn't do anything at all

[cyan notch]

no theyd still be useless

[remote tusk]

I hear that about like half the game features

what is real

[steep bridge]

[cyan notch]

your main source of money is missions not dismantling garbage

[half iron]

last i checked, my beloved is the most real thing in tertium

[supple skiff]

imagine if we didn't have the meatgrinder

would have no way of knowing half this shit don't work

[steep bridge]

Last time i checked T3 Assassination mission doesn't exist. Literally fucking havent spawned one in two days

[remote tusk]

I hope they run the meatgrinder on different engine rules than the main game as a joke just to keep us confused

and introduce new weapon stats like "bouyancy" and "mouthfeel"

[warm delta]

my beloved said you all are not real

[supple skiff]

mfw making stats and game mechanics obscure as a player retention tool

[remote tusk]

it's like the lore of Dark Souls but with game mechanics

[steep bridge]

But my Penance maaaaayn

[lyric hatch]

@warm delta your beloved smeels funni

[iron sundial]

Yeah been trying to get that last mission being repair for a penance for both t4 and t5 and still none for the past 3 days whenever I play

[half iron]

my beloved says you are incorrect. i am more real than you, dream-being.

[cyan notch]

we are already using gold to buy weapons tho and everyone has so much of it that its useless to get more

[remote tusk]

nothing like arguing over wishlisting

[steep bridge]

Time to theorize. What if the Great E decides one day to just peace out? You know like, fuck yo 1000 souls i'm out. Lata bitch

[lyric hatch]

reminder that the surge staff effects photosensitive players

[shut thorn]

nerfing mats,
delaying crafting,
delaying specs,
FOMO weapon store

[supple skiff]

maybe if we all buy more weapons we can lagg out the server with our inventories and force them to implement class wide chests or somethin

[iron sundial]

If only we could select the mission, map and modifiers we want to play hell even try out a new weapon that gets released or just unlocked instead of relying on damn rng

[lyric hatch]

@steep bridge then big bada boom happens and then not much else after

[shut thorn]

Nothing, his body isn't his at this point lol

[cyan notch]

then u might as well sell mats for gold why have a convoluted method of buying stuff you dont want just do dismantle it into things you want

[lyric hatch]

@iron sundial or spend gold for custom missions

[supple skiff]

dime influence

[teal cargo]

he's like in a coma

[iron sundial]

Do you one better... for crafting materials!

[teal cargo]

so not like he's conciously doing anything

[supple skiff]

inb4

[teal cargo]

coma or dead

[cyan notch]

[half iron]

these walls have ears

[lyric hatch]

@cyan notch cause thats how you got mats in V2 and V1

[iron sundial]

You get to the point where your just not using that ordo dockets and just stockpile it to be useless

[shut thorn]

is it really him at this point

[teal cargo]

i mean 🤷‍♂️

[ebon jolt]

Well I just tried gun Psyker for the first time in a while and the part that makes it really bad is the huge loss of stability at mid or high levels of peril.

[remote tusk]

you lose stability from perils?

[supple skiff]

Big E dies, becomes full on warp entity

[half iron]

contain the silliness

[shut thorn]

he was always a warp entity

[iron sundial]

New Chaos God

[teal cargo]

Gun psyker 👀

[supple skiff]

GW gives 40k the age of sigmar treatment

[teal cargo]

lol

[lyric hatch]

@supple skiff big moment for psykers

[teal cargo]

world ends

[cyan notch]

why would high peril affect you if youre using a gun

[shut thorn]

scary noises

[remote tusk]

hard to aim during an epileptic seizure

[lyric hatch]

^^^

[iron sundial]

Do you hear the voices too?

[ebon jolt]

No idea. Makes it super hard to aim at mid or long range. Just got a new revolver and wanted to give it a go but made it tough to rotate between BB and gun.

[hardy socket]

both are "max health"

is this good?

[lyric hatch]

@iron sundial yes, they call me stud muffin

[shut thorn]

No

[supple skiff]

high peril does make aiming hard though

[cyan notch]

well thats ur problem ur using revolver

[remote tusk]

Maximo De Salud sounds like a guy who does adult films

[half iron]

use revolver in spite of the dream-being above

[hardy socket]

it does

[supple skiff]

last time I tried to ads with high peril I went full paint mixer

[lyric hatch]

@remote tusk maximum the salad

[cyan notch]

never had an issue personally

[hardy socket]

but i'm pretty sure 22% more max health is amazing

[drowsy fog]

Haven't equipped a gun since unlocking staves so I've never known this was an issue

[lyric hatch]

yall use guns on psyker?

[cyan notch]

i always just use kantrael mg12

[azure goblet]

lasgun sometimes

[remote tusk]

laspistols and knives only here sibling

[hardy socket]

on principle no

although i probably should

some guns are just straight up better than staffs

[lyric hatch]

@hardy socket nah they're a vet thing

[supple skiff]

big blunt energy

[hardy socket]

if you get like a gun and a normal knife you might as well be a veteran with bb

[azure goblet]

what talents does burn proc? just the brain burst chance right?

[simple junco]

Tbh combat knife on Psyker feels great

Guns? ehhh

[azure goblet]

does it rly

[teal cargo]

man these damnation teams are not doing so hot

[azure goblet]

the regular gun burn procs blaze?

[remote tusk]

roleplay a frail elderly man who had his psychic awakening recently and is terrified

[teal cargo]

got nothing for the mass dreg shooters

[hardy socket]

voidstrike is good for mass amounts of elites

as well as surge

[half iron]

i like to percieve my beloved fighting alongside me the same way some guy on earth sees viktor reznov

[simple junco]

Is there an internal cooldown for Terrifying Barrage?

[cyan notch]

mid

void better

[half iron]

you’re mid😠

[remote tusk]

wait, lasfire counts as warpfire for ascending blaze?

[simple junco]

So what you're saying is once it's fixed, purg is gonna be top dog

[teal cargo]

fixed?

what bout is broken?

[long wharf]

what is this heresy?

[remote tusk]

that's so silly it has to be real

[simple junco]

Wait, is THAT why gunker is viable?

[cyan notch]

no

[grave bobcat]

❤️

[dull cedar]

first couple hours of playing psyker experience:

what teh fucc is that

[long wharf]

are you saying lasguns proc AB?

[remote tusk]

I'll bite. What's crussian roulette?

[hardy socket]

there is a clear lack of good fits

[timber shale]

You’re saying infernous counts as soulblaze?

[hardy socket]

there's literally only one unlockable really

that looks decent

which is the red one

and all 5 of the "red ones but with less/more metal around it" are the exact same shit

[simple junco]

Wait, isn't there a FS blessing that gives soulblaze stacks on crit?

[remote tusk]

yep

[simple junco]

What blessings do I need on a lasgun to make that work?

[lyric hatch]

@hardy socket yeah and the heresy one is impossible without a team

[simple junco]

Might give it a shot

[supple skiff]

yeah 4 on crit max 12 at its highest tier

[hardy socket]

the rewards are really ugly looking ngl

[remote tusk]

lasgun with roulette + blaze crit sword

[hardy socket]

so no real point to any penances

[supple skiff]

have it on my deflector sword

have mixed feelings

[lyric hatch]

@hardy socket i just want the heresy one

[remote tusk]

godspeed

[hardy socket]

the one where you need 3 warp charges in heresy for 300 seconds?

[lyric hatch]

@hardy socket nah i gotta do 90% of a monsters hp with BB

[simple junco]

So what do you need on a lasgun to make it burn?

[white badger]

Yeah, Malleus Monstrun

Monstrum

[hardy socket]

god these fucking penances

[white badger]

That takes a team willing to waste 10 minutes

[hardy socket]

they make me wanna hurl

[long wharf]

why would infernus count as soulblaze?

[hardy socket]

i wish all the penances were shit you actually would do normally

[lyric hatch]

@white badger or hope a slabgryn will face tank a host

[remote tusk]

easiest way is to get a friend with a shield ogryn to aggro a daemonhost for you. Good luck bud

[lyric hatch]

@remote tusk i dont got one of those XD

[long wharf]

you need to kill the monstrosity and have done 90% of its HP

[hardy socket]

normally dodge daemon attacks

[long wharf]

with BB

[hardy socket]

actually easy enough to just spam dodge backwards

[timber shale]

Idfk. I don’t think it does. It just seemed like that’s what that person was claiming.

[lyric hatch]

@long wharf i know

[long wharf]

that's a really bold claim

[remote tusk]

yeah its not hard to do, just annoying to arrange

kinda fitting that the psyker endgame challenges is to get friends

[white badger]

Heh

[drowsy fog]

Play any other class lol

[warped perch]

😂

[long wharf]

do you have a video for that?

[simple junco]

What burns on a las? Haven't touched a gun in a while

[hardy socket]

veteran got a "kill 6 enemies with a grenade without it bouncing at all"

[timber shale]

Well that’s kind of amazing. Going to get one and test it out.

[delicate acorn]

Heyo. What's the goto of 25 feat?

[long wharf]

you make the claim, you provide the proof

it's not on other people to prove you wrong

[delicate acorn]

I feel like 25-1 is really the only choice? Warp Battery

[timber shale]

They also don’t owe us proof, this isn’t a courtroom

[hardy socket]

third one is better

[simple junco]

We're not peer reviewing a dissertation

[hardy socket]

also depends on the build

[long wharf]

it's not about "owe"

[white badger]

The Veteran ones are generally straightforward, and mostly just "play good." The big exception is the 100% Accuracy/ One Bullet Left penance, which demands cheesing

[long wharf]

you make a crazy statement like that, it's reasonable to ask for proof

[hardy socket]

but 10% chance to just randomly brain burst is so unbelievably broken with most builds

[simple junco]

So like, do all lasguns burn?

[timber shale]

It’s on a 15sec cooldown mate

[hardy socket]

"kill 6 enemies with a grenade without bouncing the grenade"

[drowsy fog]

All the level 25 feats are viable

[long wharf]

so, in other words, Azreal is a liar and is trolling to get people to waste their time

[remote tusk]

Kinetic flayer is also good. bonus damage and a warp charge every 15 sec in combat

[timber shale]

No it’s a blessing

[white badger]

Incredibly easy. Tilt camera up, throw at crowd.

[timber shale]

Infernus: burn stacks on crit

[simple junco]

Oooh so I need 2 blessings to make this happen

[leaden pier]

finally

[simple junco]

And recommended weapons?

[white badger]

That one is super easy

[leaden pier]

it all went to hell after that tho

[half iron]

someone did not contain the silliness

[delicate stratus]

Hey kids back at it again I see

[white badger]

Are people saying Infernus procs have a synergy with our soulblaze feats?

[delicate stratus]

They don't. Two different debuffs.

[simple junco]

If you run AB, you should have hordes taken care of with your ult... Gonna run XII woo

If I find it

[long wharf]

yeah you're full of shit

[jaunty atlas]

i just realised that our class is called psykinetic. are we supposed to be specialized in the telekinesis branch of psykers ?

because ..

[long wharf]

no warp charges from AB proccing on enemies dying to Infernus proc burn

this is why asking for proof is reasonable

because any asshole can make shit up

and making shit up makes you an asshole

[lyric hatch]

@long wharf isnt it a 10% chance tho?

[jaunty atlas]

calm down terry. breathe.

[mental vortex]

How do I make low level psyker fun

[long wharf]

I'm testing right now, and it hasn't proc'd yet

[lyric hatch]

@mental vortex get to lvl 20,25,30

@long wharf did you set the gun to wumbo

[delicate stratus]

Practice awareness and learn to enable allies to do stuff as opposed to doing it yourself.

[jaunty atlas]

you pretend your powers aren't awakened yet, so you play with an antax 5 and an agripinaa 1

[mental vortex]

in simple words

[long wharf]

I'm going to pretend this is a different language instead of gibberish

[lyric hatch]

@long wharf how do you not know about wumbo

[hardy socket]

what language has wumbo

[mental vortex]

okay let me a ask a yes no question

do I spam brain burst

[remote tusk]

no

[mental vortex]

got it

[simple junco]

You really gotta chill out man

[wooden saffron]

what kind of perks should i look for on a lightning staff?

[cyan notch]

ive not gotten a single warp charge from infernus ima say thats fake af

[jaunty atlas]

https://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Psyker read that, it will help tremendously

[white badger]

I really like Terrifying Barrage on Surge staff.

[long wharf]

I have no patience for people that like to waste other people's time

[mental vortex]

okay I guess

[lyric hatch]

@long wharf it feels like you wasted you own time

[long wharf]

the community is not better off with liars not being held to task

[jaunty atlas]

trust me it will 🙂

[long wharf]

if proving a liar wrong is a waste of time, then yes, I wasted my time

[jaunty atlas]

the confrontational language is really not needed tho.

[simple junco]

You're on the internet, you're gonna run yourself thin. This gave me incentive to play the game until I got a good lasgun. It doesn't really matter if it was right or wrong, I was hyped lol

[long wharf]

if you value the truth being told when someone makes outrageous claims and refuses to prove it, then I didn't

[jaunty atlas]

what is the claim ?

[long wharf]

it does matter if it was right or wrong

if you literally don't care, then why get excited?

[jaunty atlas]

i'm a fervent soulblaze runner maybe i can be of help

[hardy socket]

outrageous claims that are inmediatly refutable about a random ass videogame

[drowsy fog]

I wumbo you wumbo he she we wumbo

[remote tusk]

I'd be interested to see if it is real though

[ivory marsh]

psykers gotta cope somehow

[long wharf]

not all, and you clearly have no clue

[simple junco]

Why do you assume I don't care? Lol. I just want more reasons to play this game

[white badger]

Wait...what? You saying our offhand weapon's blessings work?

[simple junco]

If it was a hoax, then so be it. We'll learn one way or the other

[cyan notch]

lasgun burn doesnt work tho

[lyric hatch]

@drowsy fog You know, I wumbo, You wumbo, He she me wumbo, wumbo, Wumboing, We'll have thee wumbo, Wumborama, Wumbology, The study of wumbo

[long wharf]

"we'll learn one way or the other" - sure, by calling out the liar when someone tests and calls them on it

[remote tusk]

lets meet back here in a week when we got the right weapon blessing to drop and can compare notes

[simple junco]

You are "the other". Congrats.

[long wharf]

you're welcome.

[white badger]

Lotta nonsense in this channel tonight

[jaunty atlas]

just one individual .

[humble island]

jesus, the surge staff really is just designed to give you epilepsy, huh

[simple junco]

It happens lol

[long wharf]

yep, there's no way it was tested before the patch released

[hardy socket]

it feels underwhelming

[white badger]

They weren't sure how to further nerf psykers, so they decided to go after the players' health directly

[humble island]

it does good damage and is great for CC; but fuck me, my eyes are fucking hurting

[white badger]

Next patch... the black ships

[jaunty atlas]

more like dizziness/vertigo/ distorstion of perceptions after an hour

but yes

[humble island]

that's how i'm feeling right now

[leaden pier]

yeah the only way i was able to run surge is to turn down my screens brightness

[jaunty atlas]

yellow filter helps

[remote tusk]

surge staff seemed fine on my normal pc. I'm on my laptop visiting family for christmas, and here it goes full on seizure mode

[leaden pier]

and look away and hope nothing gets me

[white badger]

Blocking with a Force Sword is almost that bad, too

[lucid mortar]

I just do acid before logging on and it evens out the lightning effect

[mental vortex]

okay so psykers are easy to corrupt maniacs that either die for nothing or die for the emperor and sometimes ones actually worth anything get sent to space ships for training also the eldar pskyers just outclass them

[lucid mortar]

Get good

[mental vortex]

epic

[drowsy fog]

Psyker fails enough missions in a row the character gets deleted

[jaunty atlas]

EXACTLY NOW DIE FOR OUR BELOVED

hem. i mean play

[mental vortex]

beloved gaming

[long wharf]

I have killed 30 enemies in the meat grinder on malice with an infernus blessing laspistol now, with those enemies dying to the burn dot caused by the gun

I have no feats active but AB at lvl30

[remote tusk]

thanks for checking

[long wharf]

and no warp charges

[timber shale]

Thanks for testing. I’m not shocked to hear that @prisma flame was bullshitting based on some of their other statements. Too bad it doesn’t work though.

[hardy socket]

old eldar could outclass the emperor of mankind in terms of psychic abilities

[simple junco]

rip. Was fun while it lasted lol

[long wharf]

I'm all for finding hidden things to take advantage of

[simple junco]

You can turn off feats?

[long wharf]

yep, just right click the feat

it unselects it

[mental vortex]

old eldar got smoked

[simple junco]

Oh shit that's cool

[white badger]

Just stop

[jaunty atlas]

thank you for verifying informations.

[remote tusk]

the sibling collective thanks you for your effort

[cyan notch]

dude even if it worked how often are you

1. getting crits
2. not just killing the enemy outright
3. getting the kill from the burn
4. getting the 10% proc chance

[long wharf]

I just want the most accurate information out there so we all know what really does and does not work

and so we can all suffer seizures from the surge staff

god I miss using my surge staff

[jaunty atlas]

it works suprisingly well with purgatus. you lay 8 stacks in a crowd you will get full stack and proc soulblaze

[lyric hatch]

@cyan notch more often than youd think

[jaunty atlas]

i mean 5B

[cyan notch]

well yes but im talking about gun here

[jaunty atlas]

oh

[long wharf]

if you're using a gun on a psyker, you're already wrong

[jaunty atlas]

guns are dirty. the stuff of low level psykers.

[hardy socket]

wish you could use magic with guns

[remote tusk]

when I use anything else there's always going to come a moment where I round a corner and find a big group of armoured gunners looking at me from a distance and I'll just sigh and think back to the good times I had with old sparky

[simple junco]

Alright, enough. There isn't a right or wrong way to play.

[hardy socket]

add electric bullets

[lyric hatch]

@simple junco cap

[cyan notch]

irrelevant im just saying it bc that was the original premise yo the guy said gun could work with AB

[long wharf]

then why do you care what I say if there's no right or wrong?

[sonic aspen]

just make mind bullets easy

[simple junco]

Because you're calling it wrong lol. It's a game mang

[jaunty atlas]

huuuh .... on that topic .. i don't know

[cyan notch]

even if infernus worked on a lasgun it wouldnt even matter

[long wharf]

the psyker is objectively less effective on a team using a gun instead of one of the staves unique to the class

[remote tusk]

it discourages new people from experimenting

[simple junco]

For T5? Sure there's optimal builds. I don't personally like gunkers but they do their work just fine.

[jaunty atlas]

we really gain nothing, synergize nothing and consume ammo we shouldn't

[long wharf]

if you want to shooty shoot, you and your team is best served by you being a Vet

this isn't opinion, it's fact

[hardy socket]

you could shooty shoot shoot with a voidstrike

[lucid mortar]

The only way to decide what is good and what isn’t is an IRL thumb war

[long wharf]

voidstrike isn't shooty shoot, it's boomy boom

[hardy socket]

basically the same but you clear out waves of enemies really fast

[jaunty atlas]

well the fantasy of player a low class psyker could be nice too. remember bob

[long wharf]

and that's just fine

[grave bobcat]

What if they were a terrible Vet

[ivory marsh]

might as well just play 4 vets then

[simple junco]

That seems like an opinion to me lol

[long wharf]

then they'd be an even worse psyker with a gun

[hardy socket]

normally max it out and click heads like guns

to clear waves

[remote tusk]

optimal vs right

[long wharf]

I'm not telling someone they can't play the way they want

[lucid mortar]

Weapons don’t carry in this game skill does

[ivory marsh]

naw weapons do but probably none of the staves

[long wharf]

I am saying a psyker carrying a gun is very "sub-optimal"

[simple junco]

"you're already wrong" seems like you're doing just that lol

[lyric hatch]

@lucid mortar nah some weapons really do carry

[remote tusk]

writing is easier to misunderstand than speech. Optimal seems to convey the meaning a bit better than right or wrong

[simple junco]

Like, just chill man

[long wharf]

I'm sitting here with a smile on my face, if you can believe that

I'm not really upset

[cyan notch]

lol

[grave bobcat]

Don't worry BB 100% HS accuracy

Infinite ammo

[long wharf]

yes, yes it is

[ivory marsh]

step 1) use a staff on psyker
step 2) switch to a gun because your group is struggling with ranged enemies
step 3) switch to playing veteran

[grave bobcat]

Never fear BB is here

[long wharf]

I got the 20 HS kill streak penance using BB

[jaunty atlas]

oO

[grave bobcat]

See

[simple junco]

Infinite ammo supremacy

[long wharf]

when I was trying to do pick n mix

[grave bobcat]

Already a better Vet

[cyan notch]

no shared mats step 3 failed

[remote tusk]

hahaha

[jaunty atlas]

man you wanted to bb hard

[grave bobcat]

Case and point

[long wharf]

nah, vet could have killed far more people with HSs in the time it took me to do that

[lyric hatch]

@simple junco dont need no ammo, dont need no nades

[grave bobcat]

No no rmber

[long wharf]

and I had to basically play super defensively

[grave bobcat]

they're a bad Vet

11% accuracy

[long wharf]

I'm a bad vet

[remote tusk]

BB 3-4 times, sit down and cry a little. BB some more

[long wharf]

still got one to 30, though

[grave bobcat]

19% stability on their gun

BB, always 100% stability

[simple junco]

110%, even. It can't miss even if it has the chance to.

Literally optimal

[grave bobcat]

Inish headshots don't give you extra accuracy thats not how this works

[remote tusk]

4x psyker BB only damnation challenge run

[cyan notch]

i have pinpoint perfect accuracy with the kantrael mg12 and i headshot everything instantly but can also deal with bulwarks and crushers easily unlike a vet

[long wharf]

FatDevs need to make us get BB kill credit whenever a target affected by our BB (charging) dies

[cyan notch]

checkmate

[long wharf]

not just we were charging for half the BB time

[grave bobcat]

Can I use AB?

[simple junco]

I dunno, exploding something from the inside out should count a bit extra in my book

[remote tusk]

no. turn off all feats

[long wharf]

BB is a force compression of the head, though

it's not an internal explosion

[grave bobcat]

prob not doable then lol

[long wharf]

that's why armor helmeted enemies are resistant to BB

[remote tusk]

not with that attitude

[simple junco]

rip

[long wharf]

I really hope we get to reroll both blessings on a weapon

[simple junco]

I mean, if all of us run Aura we can camp ledges

[long wharf]

else this is wasted

[hardy socket]

is that not a good voidstrike?

[long wharf]

the stats are good

but warp flurry doesn't work with staves

[wise pecan]

hm? i've seen a video of it working

[long wharf]

and run-n-gun is hot garbage (broken on staff secondary)

nope, been tested a lot recently

[hardy socket]

yeah but 35% damage on elites

still pretty good staff

[long wharf]

because each time you charge the staff you're breaking the attack chain

[wise pecan]

oh lmao

[long wharf]

that staff needs peril transfer, which I have on a garbage staff to move

[nimble needle]

Of course you are. Why wouldn't you. /s

[wise pecan]

unrelated, i really wish that we had solo games. even with the godawful bots. especially ith the godawful bots, i'll never get Out With a Bang with actual humans on my team

[long wharf]

a lot of psyker staff blessings just don't work because of how staves work

but earlier someone posted a screenshot of a voidstrike staff with a new blessing on it, Surge

[remote tusk]

Honestly I hope they take a long hard look at psyker in general soon. After they stopped the game from giving people seizures I guess, but not too much lower on the priority list

[long wharf]

something like "2 shots on critical hit"

[delicate acorn]

15 seconds feels like a long time.
Sorry about the delayed response.

[wise pecan]

i think Out With a Bang wouldn't be so bad if it was just a special/elite with the suicide burst

rather than 3

[long wharf]

and that blessing isn't listed on the darktide build website

[simple junco]

It is, and it isn't. It definitely helps with WC upkeep

[pine iris]

proclamation: "press Q to form a party" after a round - this is the only inexcusable Fat Shark thing for me. Player count would be up if that functionality worked from the beginning

[simple junco]

Query: Queuing up with other meatbags didn't work before?

[long wharf]

it's never worked

[delicate acorn]

Is F.Sword/Surge a viable combo?

If so, what is the goal?

[remote tusk]

consider it from the perspective of a whole mission rather than a fight. getting a charge every 15 sec of combat will keep all your charges up for longer without having to stack them up to 4 from scratch all the time

[long wharf]

not from the post-mission screen

[nimble needle]

Survive through a mission

[simple junco]

I swear I saw it work in the beta, rip

[night marten]

sure, buy why not use ant axe V

[long wharf]

it can be, but it's not as good as combat axe + surge

[wise pecan]

force sword and surge leave a gaping weakness against hordes

[long wharf]

combat axe is for dealing with the horde

and helping kill elites

[wise pecan]

surge and combat axe or force sword and purgatus are good, but surge can generally at least stunlock gunners

[nimble needle]

Do you just spam block-attack?

[wise pecan]

yes

[nimble needle]

That's so boring

[pine iris]

Even if you have to run a shitty FS, you should run FS as a psyker

[long wharf]

perhaps, but it's crazy effective

[remote tusk]

combat axe is such a good allrounder. blockattack spam vs most things, and you can shock stun bulwarks to drop their shields and take them out with heavies

[nimble needle]

Elaborate

[lyric hatch]

nah FS is king

[night marten]

that's surge though.

[wise pecan]

i'm not seeing your logic

[long wharf]

you shouldn't be just standing in one place anyways, you move around to corral and manage the horde while killing it

[nimble needle]

Voidstrike FS FTW

[simple junco]

FS is good for deflector, but you're putting a lot of faith in your teammates if you run it with surge due to the single target damage

[long wharf]

a force sword without deflector is a good reason to use a combat axe instead

[lyric hatch]

@wise pecan FS warp charge

[long wharf]

after doing a few missions with my new force sword, I missed my combat axe and went back to it

[wise pecan]

????

[pine iris]

oh I forgot that deflector isn't default for the FS. If you have a FS with deflector, run that instead of any other melee

[nimble needle]

He has a way with word

[lyric hatch]

@wise pecan use it

[teal needle]

It only took me three weeks of busting my ass to get one 🙃

[wise pecan]

warp charge isn't even on force sword, it's the psyker passive

[lyric hatch]

@wise pecan no its alt atk is warp charge

[pine iris]

being able to block bullets when you're not in closing range of a gun line with FS deflector is a game changer for psyker

[wise pecan]

unless you mean the special for the force sword, which... really isn't anything special

[pine iris]

my default stance is FS block

[lyric hatch]

@wise pecan then you aint using it right

[nimble needle]

Use chainsword and don't worry about peril!

[long wharf]

until you're on damnation and you try to block walk your way to a line of gunners that drive your peril up to 100 within a couple seconds

force sword with deflector isn't the perfect shield

[wise pecan]

tf are you talking about, "aint using it right". yeah, it does good damage. big whup. it does it to one dude, and stunlocks you. yeah, force sword is good, but it's not the only viable weapon like power sword is

[nimble needle]

Gib power sword

[ebon wigeon]

which perk do i replace?

[grave bobcat]

Always the same for stuff like this 😛

[pine iris]

if this happens and you don't have F ready to go you're not playing well

[grave bobcat]

Slaughterer my beloved ❤️

[nimble needle]

Don't keep it. But if you must, exp. Unless you're not 30 I guess

[long wharf]

I mean I guess, but you don't always have F ready

[wise pecan]

or, counterpoint, since we're talking about surge +FS, just use surge

[ebon wigeon]

i just bought it with just the 17% and Hadron fucked it up twice

[long wharf]

maybe you used it to avoid popping as you were voiding the horde

[remote tusk]

I dunno dude. With how tanky enemies get on damnation I find that the damage from the sword special isnt worth what I lose from unequipping the axe. But a lot of this is personal preference

[lyric hatch]

@wise pecan A. psyker doesnt get power sword and B. you dont use it on trash just have armor

[nimble needle]

Probably should have given up after the first fuck up. You can only guarantee your first perk stays good, and reroll one later. The third is the Emperor's will

[ebon wigeon]

yeah

till next time i guess

[wise pecan]

that's exactly the point. force sword doesn't have an answer for trash, and surge doesn't have an answer for trash. FS + Surge isn't a great combo because while you're fantastic at small nukbers of enemies, you have no answer vs hordes

[nimble needle]

Sorry

[ebon wigeon]

i hate this system

ill hold onto it in case things change

[remote tusk]

Godspeed with the slot machines Kita

[lyric hatch]

@wise pecan the answer is staff

also ascend blaze

[nimble needle]

I wish you'd just give your weapons and general strategy in one line

[bleak tulip]

yes it lets you actually kill elites in melee in like a second instead of requiring you to hit em like three times which can be an issue with ragers, and it still has decent enough horde clear to not make you a liability

also infinite dodges

kiting for days

[lyric hatch]

@nimble needle small word better

[wise pecan]

christ y'all have the reading comprehension of potatoes

[drowsy fog]

Psychic doesn't always mean smart

[ebon jolt]

How does crucian roulette interact with the headhunter autoguns? Is it each individual bullet or % based?

[lyric hatch]

ogyrn -> psyker

[south monolith]

The total time to activate a forcesword special and drop a heavy attack is about the same as a BB. It is definitely useful though just another option.

[steep bridge]

box?

[remote tusk]

be nice. lots of people here have english as a second or third language

[bleak tulip]

that's just not even remotely true lmao

maybe with barrage

[drowsy fog]

I was leveling ogryn last night and boxed a sniper, felt great

[drowsy fog]

Truuu

[simple junco]

Apparently if you join a match with an active boss, the healthbar doesn't show up for you

[bleak tulip]

it's also more damage than BB hilariously

[lyric hatch]

@south monolith i got mine to be able to one tap on a light

[south monolith]

You are animation locked as it channels on an enemy. It all is comparable to the 2.5 seconds it takes to do a BB

[bleak tulip]

it's still faster even if you consider the lock

[lyric hatch]

@bleak tulip faster if flayer procs

[bleak tulip]

it does more damage than BB and it's cheaper

[simple junco]

Quite a bit more damage too

[nimble needle]

BOX

[bleak tulip]

the lock isn't as long as people think too, it's annoying but also not nearly as dangerous as people seem to think

[south monolith]

I use a Forcesword exclusively myself, I am just keeping it real. It does have a time commitment to using the special, but it is very good and useable.

[nimble needle]

I think that force swords are not the most efficient choice, generally. But whatever I want to be a space wizard

[drowsy fog]

It FEELS good to use and that's what I care about

[bleak tulip]

you can just about one shot ragers with it on damnation with everything you got and a slaughterer stack

[remote tusk]

I'm glad the force sword is good. The axe blockattack is probably going to get nerfed at some point

[dull cedar]

why sometimes after BB there's a delay before I can quill?

is that a mechanic

[bleak tulip]

axe block attack also leaves you open because you have no stam

[drowsy fog]

Far as I'm concerned frame data and the like can stay in competitive fighting games lol

[ebon jolt]

My FS kills all non-ogryn units (except dreg rager and mutant) on damnation in one light or heavy special. Seems pretty good 🤷‍♂️

[azure cave]

It's a current bug 🥲

[lyric hatch]

@dull cedar new thing they added to screw over psykers

[bleak tulip]

all it takes is one funny man from behind and you're fucked

[remote tusk]

dont need stam when you use perils to block

[nimble needle]

Bug, or they're trying to address the infinite lightning exploit. Not sure

[lyric hatch]

@remote tusk bad

[bleak tulip]

sure fair enough

[drowsy fog]

Peril block so good

[remote tusk]

y. it's probably unintended I guess

you quell so fast from using a non force weapon

[bleak tulip]

peril block also seems like it might be getting nerfed because it's hilarious how you're arguably better at picking up than ogryn

[remote tusk]

combined with regening toughness from that quelling due to quietude it gets a bit much

[drowsy fog]

Imagine if a non force weapon could get deflector. Would be busted

[remote tusk]

oh lord yes

[civic tendon]

Heresy runs with pub teams that run into gun fire

Are the best

[cyan notch]

stonks

[ebon jolt]

If they nerf peril block and don’t buff the Psyker at all I might have to change to a different class.

[uncut hamlet]

Pretty sure its been acknowledged as a bug on the forums

[drowsy fog]

Let the dueling sword get deflector cuz you're skillfully swatting the bullets away or something lol

[uncut hamlet]

Big stonks

[remote tusk]

I'd rather they do something about the quelling from non-force weapons tbh. Would fix the issue

[south monolith]

If you have damage vs maniac and flak Forcesword heavy special can one tap everything but the Ogryns and the mutant.

[uncut hamlet]

Theres just a lotta little qol changes psyker needs

to feel better

especially since staves are pretty weak apart from their cc

[bleak tulip]

[drowsy fog]

Make warp charge bonus damage bigger

[lucid mortar]

bigger ass

[drowsy fog]

Like 5%

[bleak tulip]

and ignore the shitty gun psyker build that's pinned

[delicate acorn]

I prefer the t.axe mk2.

Thanks all for the input!

[bleak tulip]

I guess if you pester mods enough even your basic vitch build can get pinned

[high agate]

Just had a Vet who refused to follow the team and kept saying 'where are you going' before i explained to him that missions sometimes go in different directions on the same levels
Then he called our Zealot a 'rookie' because he swore at him lol

[delicate acorn]

Different question, are dueling swords just single target?

[nimble needle]

Vet probably carried regardless tho

[drowsy fog]

Like getting 20%-30% bonus damage would be so much better than 12%-18%

[remote tusk]

wishlist alert: would be nice if they gave the forcesword a way to explode away a huge bit of perils, as an aftershock from the warp explosion or something. Something more proactive than crying in a corner with your finger up.

[cyan notch]

i wouldnt be opposed but i also dont mind current fs

[drowsy fog]

Make an actual impact

[bleak tulip]

don't use sword to vent unless you're dodge dancing too with iz

it's bad at it

[nimble needle]

I think warp charges should just have more ways to build (FS special) and spend them.

[remote tusk]

y. make the playstyle more involved

[cyan notch]

nah

even more things to juggle

[remote tusk]

I like juggling

[nimble needle]

That's not more involved, just more interactive than staring at a timer

[tawdry shell]

Can anyone tell me why surge staff is good and how does it's damage spread

[drowsy fog]

Either make em bigger or apply to more things

[tawdry shell]

it sometimes does so much damage

[remote tusk]

yeah interactive is a better word. my bad

[tawdry shell]

sometimes barely anything

[high agate]

Its ||not|| and its random

[nimble needle]

It seems to ignore armor

[tawdry shell]

o.o

[nimble needle]

It's good because it stuns elites

[remote tusk]

damage from surge is like reverse flamer. The more armor the more damage you do

[tawdry shell]

yeah I see that

the stagger is good

[remote tusk]

nice of heretics to wear electricity conductive helmets

[tawdry shell]

HAHA

so it's poop against hordes

[remote tusk]

yep

[nimble needle]

Oh I misread the "y" as "why". My mistake

[grave bobcat]

And dogs

[jaunty atlas]

vets with shotguns.

[grave bobcat]

Please don't try to kill dogs with the surge

lol

[jaunty atlas]

and knifes.

[grave bobcat]

Or just left click them

[tawdry shell]

hahaha

so its good against scab maulers

[grave bobcat]

Like you will actually hit 100 peril before you half its hp

[remote tusk]

dogs have massive ranged resist anyway

[teal needle]

Surge staff is good because it stuns everything in the game except monstrosities. The damage is not great although it does some bonus damage to flak armor and can kill gunners somewhat efficiently. You can also use the primary fire to cause suppression. However, the low damage and lack of ability to kill poxwalkers means that you can't carry your team very well with it if your teammates are dying to dumb shit or just not doing damage. It just makes things a lot more comfortable on difficulty 4 and 5

[tawdry shell]

it oneshots shotgunner sometimes

[grave bobcat]

They're unarmored 🥲

So surge does like 100 dmg to them lol

[remote tusk]

lol

[grave bobcat]

1,800 hp

[jaunty atlas]

yeah. meanwhile he does quite nothing of it's job. i guess i should talk i play purge

[remote tusk]

those dogs have been tasered enough to develop a resistance. it just gets them riled up

[drowsy fog]

Just purge everything

[jaunty atlas]

that was the plan

[grave bobcat]

I just stun them once and left click them down

[tawdry shell]

thanks squiggs

[jaunty atlas]

until 0 peeps could clear range

[grave bobcat]

Otherwise it melts Crushers/Bulwarks/Reapers

[remote tusk]

the worst feeling in the game is being constantly pestered by lone dudes with autoguns for an entire run

[drowsy fog]

If they're out of purge range you have options
Roll more cloud radius
Use deflector or mobility to get close
Corner peek with bb

[grave bobcat]

Kyrn reminding me I still haven't used my deflector....

[jaunty atlas]

deflector helps. but having to carry a trauma staff, a shotty and a ps vet ...

[spark fractal]

so uh, insane stats on this, except...it's on a psyker, and it's an infantry autogun