psyker-class

[languid osprey]

u have matchmaking problems?

[night marten]

you forgot about the 10 minutes you spent waiting for them

[grave bobcat]

Scuse you its above lol

[night marten]

I would queue it more often, but I can't sit around waiting when I have time to get in a game

[high agate]

Between the Loner (German?) and Seer (Dreams) voices for Male Psyker, which do you guys like more?
Do either just become annoying at some point?

[grave bobcat]

I've been neglecting my curios hard 🥲 so working on that today lol

[bleak tulip]

savant is the only one that isnt grating, though seer is probably my favourite of those two for female

[orchid nest]

I love the loner but it does become grating to me so I went with seer

[bleak tulip]

male loner is funny at first, not it just makes me wanna mute the game

I would legit consider deleting my character if I had picked it

[vestal finch]

I'm considering it

[bleak tulip]

mfer sqeals like a pig every other line

[orchid nest]

yeah me too actually. I can get by fine with seer though

[grave bobcat]

The waiting is actually less painful that running malice for me so I'll take it lol

[ebon jolt]

❤️ French female VA.

[vestal finch]

My first psyker was a seer but I thought the funny german man was better

[bleak tulip]

my condolences

[patent hatch]

Dreamer is just great

[grave bobcat]

Don't even know what voice I chose lmfao

[bleak tulip]

is your character talking about a beloved every other line? seer
are they annoying as fuck? loner
are they french? savant

[supple skiff]

didnt like the dreamer at first, definetly grew on me

[grave bobcat]

Dream guy

So Seer

[bleak tulip]

seer is okay and has some fun lines

[echo parrot]

Something something beloved

[grave bobcat]

I only chose it since its the voice from VT lol

[vestal finch]

The Complainer
The Dreamer
The Professional (Schizo Edition)

[jaunty atlas]

man with monkey setups you go diff 4 as long as you stay in coherency

[echo parrot]

Meanwhile I get turned on whenever my loner screams "worship me or die"

[vestal finch]

By my incomparable mind!!!

[clear heath]

loner has some funny lines

dude just argues with the subtitles

[supple skiff]

loner gonna be blammed for heresy soon

[vestal finch]

He's always heretical

[echo parrot]

Male loner wins by default against the female though because four shortened lifespans

[grave bobcat]

Whats the highest toughness you have seen on a curio

[bleak tulip]

17

[ebon jolt]

17%

[orchid nest]

yeah 17

[vestal finch]

How much do the dialogues actually change as you gain more trust?

[ebon jolt]

21% on health.

[fresh halo]

So, what's the general consensus on Laspistols for Psykers ?

[grave bobcat]

Who cares about health tho

[vestal finch]

Are there any lines you can hear earlier on in the game but not at 30?

[clear heath]

I've only seen 17% toughness from other people's screenshots. Never gotten it myself

[grave bobcat]

👎

[fresh halo]

Does our Beloved agree, or is it frowned upon ?

[stark nebula]

I've had a few 17%'s

[dim pier]

The random NPC dialogue in the hub changes completely

[grave bobcat]

Yeah highest I've seen and own is 17% too

[vestal finch]

I know that one

[jaunty atlas]

all i want is +2 wounds. man i have a 73 with still +1

[vestal finch]

I mean in missions

[orchid nest]

has anyone actually seen tier 4 roll on the toughness perk though. I can only roll the t3 4% one it seems like

[bleak tulip]

yeah some lines from random guards change but you aint missing anything tbh

[echo parrot]

I feel health is best on psyker at least because of how little and how easily our toughness just gets flatlined

[opal skiff]

Y'all on some weird shit bro

[bleak tulip]

nah I dont think there is anything missable in missions

[clear heath]

Wait is that even possible?

[ebon jolt]

Don’t think it goes any higher than that unfortunately. You can get +3 stam though.

[high agate]

NPCs in the hub treat you differently. In-mission dialogue from the mission-giver changes very slightly.
Things like "Shut up and breath the air" to "Just go deeper and it'll get better"

[grave bobcat]

Cap

[pine iris]

I run curios for about +40% health overall. And 2+ wounds

[bleak tulip]

yeah wounds stays 1

[stark nebula]

I love toughness. Easy to regen with that peril to toughness perk. More toughness is more ranged damage HP and more toughness means less chip damage bleedthrough.

[vestal finch]

Reduced to a mere soldier... I suppose it could be worse

[grave bobcat]

Mine is 17% toughness x3

[wind oar]

seer is

[echo parrot]

I dont know what "cap" in that context means.

[tribal gale]

for Warp Absorption, what classifies as a warp attack? force staff kills?

[empty granite]

Is the extra 1-2% of toughness REALLY that impactful in the overall game?

[grave bobcat]

A way of saying "You're delusional" without being insulting lmfao

[stark nebula]

Could be the diff between a one shot and a two shot

[bleak tulip]

health doesnt automatically regen and on higher difficulties you wanna have more toughness to soak more ranged fire

[echo parrot]

Listen here, dont you forget who turned you ontu the knife.

[orchid nest]

I was health for a while then I got tired of being blasted by shotgunners

[echo parrot]

If I am delusional so are you

[empty granite]

I mean sure, but chasing 2-4 extra toughness across the sum total of curios doesn't feel that great

[grave bobcat]

You can't remind me of the good memories we've shared when you rubbed that FS in my face when we first met!

[bleak tulip]

I mean when you have 17+5 it does add up quite nicely

[grave bobcat]

Witch

[ebon jolt]

I use health. But I also use toughness regen which doesn’t do anything right now so you can’t listen to me for advice 😂

[grave bobcat]

I still search for "the knife"

[bleak tulip]

and getting 17+5 is just a matter of crafting mats now

[grave bobcat]

lmao I love doing that impression

I used to chase people around in The Cycle max volume goofy saying I'm gonna kill them lol

[pine iris]

This is what the trapper sounds like

[patent hatch]

Fuckk yes

[empty granite]

I'm talking about 15-17%. If you find a bunch of 16% and reroll for the +5%, then you're just chasing 1% per curio

[echo parrot]

I wanna do a mod now

Just need to know how

[vestal finch]

BANNED

[grave bobcat]

[bleak tulip]

oh yeah I also dont have 17's on all of em

agree there

[grave bobcat]

My curios are neglected...

[orchid nest]

it should hopefully be easy to max the blessings on curios anyways with the full system

[grave bobcat]

I just got the gun resist and toughness I wanted

then haven't touched them lol

[echo parrot]

Hot take: I am close to uninstalling.

[empty granite]

Lukewarm take

[bleak tulip]

that take has no temperature at all, just do what makes you happy

[languid osprey]

why tho?

[echo parrot]

I cant quickplay damnation, and only thing I do now is hope for a 380 in the shop every hour because everything I have is in the 370s.

[idle bay]

I'm playing psyker just to suffer a bit more if not suffered enough during the day 🙂

[echo parrot]

Basically just reached mobile game check-every-now-and-then tier of game

[empty granite]

Yeah, I was jamming all 3 of my curious with Ordo Dockets because I was buying up all the good skins and weapons I could. Not I can finally focus on the curios I might need for high tier play

[ebon jolt]

In theory once they release rebless you can just scrap a +17% and slap it on an existing curio.

[bleak tulip]

go play another class or another game until the next patch when they add store rerolls I guess

[empty granite]

That's fair.

[echo parrot]

I did play another class, my vet

[bleak tulip]

complaining about it here isnt gonna make it better

you just drag your mood down

[idle bay]

Or just switch to Veteran to play on toddler-easy-mode 🙂

[pine iris]

should I level up an ogryn or a veteran? I have a feeling I would be a great ogryn, I think they're a support character but nobody knows how to play them that way

[empty granite]

Ogryn's are WAY more fun than John Shooterman

[bleak tulip]

try em out, I found both vet and ogryn not super fun to play tbh

[echo parrot]

My mood is fine, and I am not really complaining. Prob will play more FF14 or play High on Life because gamepass

[idle bay]

Do try other classes - you may found them to your liking actually 🙂

[grave bobcat]

You can do Damn just fine with 3 x toughness and whatever resistance you value though

So don't gotta stress 😛

[bleak tulip]

vet is just the same guns everybody else has plus a plasma that apparently isnt that good and ogryn just has shit movesets on all his melee weapons imo

[empty granite]

Oh I know. I just meant I can now start to consecrate stuff and look closer

[snow herald]

I am now very sad that I made my Psycher a female. Apparently one of the male voices will break the fourth wall. Had a line where they yelled at the captioner. "I'm seeing rage, fear and foreshortened lifespans... No not- foreshortened lifespans, I said four shortened lifespans! Why are you not paying attention! Look at me, not them!"

[grave bobcat]

Fairs

[echo parrot]

Luscious is pretty fun, provided you can actually aim

[bleak tulip]

if I wanna use a bolter I can do that on zealot and zealot is actually fun to play

[idle bay]

Dreamer voice - also breaks 4th wall about repeated flights on Valkyrie

[echo parrot]

this is a well known 4th wall break.

[snow herald]

I've actually been playing gun-psycher lately, but that's mostly a consequence of the emperor gifting me a near perfect lasgun while the shop is giving me nothing but D tier staves when it even has one.

[echo parrot]

there was a mp4 that has floated around since closed beta

[civic tendon]

I know it's not the best meta but ogryn grenade launcher looks like fun. Grenade launchers are my favorite fps weapon

[snow herald]

I still laugh every time I see an Ogryn use their class grenade.

[ebon jolt]

Here are my curios. Gotta have that bugged and not working toughness regen speed 😂 (Wished it worked...)

[snow herald]

I was so excited when I first installed and I saw they get to chuck a whole box worth of grenades.

[grave bobcat]

Someone mentioned infernus earlier so imma use this for a change

[grave bobcat]

I think it does work, it just reduces the delay that regen starts after taking damage?

I think

I wanna get 12% ability CD too

[ebon jolt]

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/toughness-regeneration-speed-on-curio-bug/69379

I want to get 12% ability CR too. I've seen a snapshot of it before but never actually rolled it myself.

[jaunty moth]

you got to get curios like this

[idle bay]

Less Known 4th wall interaction:

[grave bobcat]

Thx for actually providing instant evidence

Like

My god

I appreciate you

[keen vale]

God the Blitz ability is fun. I can tag someone from ridiculously far away, hide, and wait for the guy's head to blow up. 😆
The only thing I need now is for my teammates to tag enemies so that all I need to do is click on whoever glows red.

[grave bobcat]

Mutants/Snipers/Flamers never really do dmg to me

And wounds

max hp 🤮

And corruption resistance eehhh I guess

[ornate hamlet]

if you never get hit nothing ever does damage. ez

[pine iris]

infernus on a lasgun has its own graphics I think. I saw people being turned to cinders

[ornate hamlet]

curios no longer needed

[grave bobcat]

But yeah I don't want any of those curios lmfao

[grave bobcat]

the end goal lol

[snow herald]

do snipers one shot a full health psyker on the highest tiers?

[grave bobcat]

Only if you're sprinting

[magic burrow]

I get the feeling that the large majority of blessings and stuff don't actually do anything. FS didn't have time to make a lot of it work, so they put in a bunch of text and let confirmation bias do the rest.

[grave bobcat]

If you're full 100% hp you can tank a shot

[snow herald]

cause 20% would be amazing if it can turn an OHK into a nonlethal hit.

[languid osprey]

dont get hit lmao

[pine iris]

i forgot to re-roll my curios!!! I have some stinkers

[magic burrow]

I get the feeling the sniper laser doesn't show up on occasion

[snow herald]

or sometimes you just have bad timing with multiple snipers

[magic burrow]

or it's blocked by other enemies or something, but the shot obviously isnt

[grave bobcat]

Even with all the Damn I run I rarely ever see more than 1 Sniepr at a time

So I wouldn't worry too much about it

[brave turret]

Why is there no endless horde condition

[snow herald]

the game seems really weird about when it does and does not decide to throw multiple copies of one special

[mellow spruce]

Ah snipers, for those moments the AI feels your using cover and "tactics" too well, so it throws something that doesn't care about walls or interspaced objects.

[empty granite]

The "Hi-Intensity" modifier is endless horde

[bleak tulip]

not specifically endless horde but yeah

its too close

adding endless horde too would feel kind of redundant

[magic burrow]

I thought endless horde was horde specific, where as high intensity has hordes more often but also more elites etc

[empty granite]

Yeah, not literally endless horde, because that'd really suck.

[pine iris]

The snipers are TOUGH when they get turned up

[warped perch]

Snipers can gtfo

[magic burrow]

endless horde could be a lot of fun on lower difficulty levels

[pine iris]

1 sniper + a few other ranged can melt the party

the endless horde mode makes the runs a little long

[grave bobcat]

I love high intensity

[stark snow]

huh so apparently shred is on chained hit not repeated hit

[warped perch]

High intensity makes me sweat

[stark snow]

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/bugged-or-badly-described-blessing-on-force-sword/70138/3

[grave bobcat]

And we're all Psykers here so

[empty granite]

Back in the open beta they had "higher hordes" or "endless horde" modifiers, but I thought they renamed those to "Hi-Intensity"

[grave bobcat]

That sniper lives only as long as you let it lol

[teal cargo]

Hi Intensity is no joke

tona of specials and hordes

if cant clear horde fast enough and getting sniped, life sucks

[mellow spruce]

Inhabited by the spirits of far future dusted corn chips and carbonated syrup-citrus-water, the "sniper" aims their laser at a nearby wall, does a tripple spin and somewhere, several hallways away, one of your team gets punted off a ledge into a instant death zone.

[magic burrow]

Sniper: "MOM GET THE CAMERA"

[pine iris]

the new mission plays really nicely

[warped perch]

Also bombers on high difficulty need to chill 💀

[pine iris]

I try to teach my teams to rush the grenade. it always lands at the party's feet so when you hear the coin noise, run toward it (past it)

[magic burrow]

that moment where you're fixing the interrogator and you suddenly hear that pinggg noise

[warped perch]

Makes me scared

[magic burrow]

yeet a grenade through the fence wire, through a vent slit, and bouncing it off a ceiling fan to land it perfectly at your feet

[mellow spruce]

If your doing the fix and you hear that ping noise, just abandon the attempt and dodge. Chances are, its going to hit you and your team is going to flame out before you get a rez.

[supple skiff]

4 shops in a row no staff lmao

[grave bobcat]

Who gave kobe the grenades!

[pine iris]

I'd like a mode where you can be the AI director and possess enemies

[primal aurora]

quickly shoplift while there are no staff

[magic burrow]

imagine doing one of those assassin mission and you get to the final room, and on the other side of the room is another elevator and four other rejects step out, and they have mission objective icons

[pine iris]

a big horde with one posessed walker with great melee skills would fuck the party up

[ebon jolt]

I had one instance where the AoE from the bomber fire was somehow twice as large as normal and covered the entire rooms floor and wiped my run.😢

[pine iris]

sounds like you had 2 bombers ^

[night marten]

bombers definitely the most dangerous special

[plucky remnant]

Question, are Blessings like... in tiers of rarity?

[magic burrow]

I see a lot of bombers dropping grenades, people backing off and letting the fire burn out, advance again, another grenade lands on the exact same spot, people back off, etc etc

[worn canopy]

Area denial specials have always been the deadliest

[plucky remnant]

Because I got the same blessing 3 times in a row out of 11 melee blessings

[warped perch]

It's so much fun when you run away from the fire and then get trapped in a net or slammed by a mutie

[primal aurora]

bombers act like me invading other players in Dark souls

[pine iris]

"Rush the grenade fools"

[grave bobcat]

Yeee

[teal cargo]

Man I hate blowing myself with the peril bug

[grave bobcat]

Bombers and Snipers definitely bigger run enders for me

[teal cargo]

cos im like trying to quell after a couple BB

but then at 100 and die

[warped perch]

Yeah same

[teal cargo]

FS having such bad passive quell do feel bad

idk how people deal with it

[warped perch]

Quell speed you mean?

[teal cargo]

like om falling behind trying to quell

[primal aurora]

axe mk V with deflector would be godly

[teal cargo]

yea cos normally i just take out melee and run after team

and peril goes down fast

[night marten]

my staff quell is better

[teal cargo]

But with FS its so slow

[pine iris]

the fire bomb will drop a party member and prevent anyone from picking them up for ~10 seconds. absolute momentum killer

[teal cargo]

Also its hard to tank DH with FS

[magic burrow]

Here's a fun game. Go to veteran chat. If they're talking about the game, you win.

[night marten]

so funny the FS has this super cool quelling animation, allows you to quell while it's the active weapon, and it's literally the worse way for me to get rid of peril

[teal cargo]

yea fr, the active quell on FS is so slow

But when you blpcking and need to get rid of peril, life sucks

[primal aurora]

Aight I'm gunna go buy some christmas booze. While I'm gone....
their mod is off, so there is a chance they could actually talk about the game

[pine iris]

I started using the force sword special more. it does MASSIVE damage to bosses. I got a hound with it, the head blew across the room

[raven scarab]

it took some hours with a full squad but i'm now in steams 1% psykers

[teal cargo]

The special does a deal a lot to tanky bois

[night marten]

the special is one of the two reasons to use FS, it's really important to take advantage of it

[teal cargo]

Bout thw only thing I like bout it

and deflector

[jaunty atlas]

so ... my full set of trinket is not working. man what is working is this game, seriously

[teal cargo]

The horde clearing is very awkward and the quell speex is terrible

[magic burrow]

I can see why they would do that. FS is a weapon that causes peril, so they can't make the passive quell too fast or the weapon is busted. However, with the feat that causes peril on blocking, technically the same goes for every melee weapon, so I guess it's another case of no one testing Psyker stuff or something

[teal cargo]

Vet the main character

[brave turret]

The veteran shouldn't be nerfed tbh, other classes should be buffed instead

[night marten]

maybe it would be busted if it had horde clear, but that's not the case

it can do slow, big single-target damage, and it can roll deflector

[grave bobcat]

laughs in slaughterer

[still wyvern]

The thing is.. wouldn't you just swap to one of your many staffs with good CC if you're going to be dealing with a horde? FS is great for deleting tankier enemies

[magic burrow]

yeah. I think Psyker's weapons really arent too bad. It's just that the feats are just a jumble of badly thought out ideas and the entire class revolves around that one brain burst mechanic that is like the least fun thing about the class

[primal aurora]

FS special is great, when it actually works. So many times I had my special attack whiffed when enemy somehow pushed away a bit, or I get staggered, or a special enemy grabs or net me.

[still wyvern]

Brain Burst is actually fun though if you take the quick recharge feat

[still wyvern]

you understand some of the pain of a thunder hammer user 🤝

[magic burrow]

Psyker's weapons arent bad, except for the Trauma staff

[night marten]

yes. I use purge and FS primarily

[still wyvern]

NOW I will fight you on that

[jaunty atlas]

honestly they could have released only vet, eventually with psyker subclass, zealot subclass, and sharpshooter subclass. and instead of an ogryn, a Kataphron slave.

[still wyvern]

Everyone likes to trash on Trauma staff but it really isn't bad

[teal cargo]

When you need to deal with like multiple ragers its kinda rough

[pine iris]

Brain burst is fun, play another class to see how out of reach enemies can feel. BB is clutch

[teal cargo]

Zealot Flamer

[brave turret]

Brain burst would be alot more better if it scaled wirh enemies, like pox walkers take 1 second to burst

[still wyvern]

it is kinda rough, but you should play around it instead of giving it more power and we end up with like a pseudo power sword imho

[mellow spruce]

Brain burst is a trap, just never use it and never use a perk that relies on warp charges. True, that eliminates most of the class, but its the most pleasent way to play.

[teal cargo]

Just feel pretty bad vs dreg sjooters

[brave turret]

Just play zealot tbh

[still wyvern]

you're better off playing zealot if you're not going to touch BB

[tiny trout]

can someone please tell me how i got the STORM WITCH SERVICE RAINMENT?

[teal cargo]

Yea jus plau Zealot Flamer

[primal aurora]

What? But thunder strike is fast, isn't it? There is no delay between hitting enemy and damage inflicting?

[tiny trout]

i cant find any mention of it but i have it?

[teal cargo]

If no BB

[tiny trout]

somehow?

[still wyvern]

granted I do think BB gets way better with the level 30 feat and I think that is the most important part that needs reworking here

[ebon jolt]

If you get 80% charge speed it isn't too bad. It's terrible on lower levels where your charge time is like 2.2s. I also think the aiming is super janky. Doesn't work well with vertical aim and at a certain range it just stops.

[ornate hamlet]

I find using force sword on armor targets really effective.

[still wyvern]

if you special, you leave yourself very open once you hit any trash enemy

[pine iris]

bB iS uSelEsS aBoVe MaliCE

[teal cargo]

Honestly BB should just be lvl 30 feat all the time

[mellow spruce]

Yeah...

[tiny trout]

please someone solve this mystery for me

[magic burrow]

BB isnt useless, its just Not Fun

[tiny trout]

where does the sevice rainment come from?

[night marten]

think you just level up

[still wyvern]

yeah, theres a spot in Enclavum Baross (Aegis Station mission) as well before you drop down to like the second medicae after skylink that eats Trauma staff circles

[tiny trout]

Huh

i just have never seen it in a penance

[mellow spruce]

No, its pretty useless if you need to do it more then once.

[jaunty atlas]

the problem is not that is bad, the problem is they're absolutely on par with others and fill no need. we have pyromancy, telekinesic and a discipline that doesn't exist in warhammer, when biomancy, prescience and telepathy exist

[tiny trout]

maybe im blind

[jaunty atlas]

and this is confusing.

[lofty ginkgo]

How do I do the warp flamethrower attack?

[teal cargo]

Purg stsff?

[magic burrow]

half your feat tree is dedicated to brain burst building warp charges

[still wyvern]

I only have a problem with people who bring it up as an utterly useless weapon instead of it being tied to lore or the like

[lofty ginkgo]

Is it different from a Force Staff?

[teal cargo]

Yes

[lofty ginkgo]

Ahh, I probably haven't unlocked it yet then

[pine iris]

trauma staff for lights out missions, try it!!

[still wyvern]

Level 30 feat too

[teal cargo]

Well ot is a type of force staff

But its called the Purgatus staff

I think last one you unlock

[still wyvern]

You can do soulblaze whose damage is based on warp charges iirc?

[mellow spruce]

If you need to brainburst something more then once, it better have a reason for being super, crazy resistant to psyker powers, such as being a chaos champ, a daemon or something similar.

[night marten]

all staffs are "force staffs". You're looking for the middle word

[primal aurora]

Oh, right. My issue with FS is me charging the sword, managing to actually hit the right enemy with the charged sword, and THEN whiffing the hit because something bumped into me or that enemy before lengthy cool anime-ish animation ends.

[lofty ginkgo]

Thanks! Right now I only have the one that can blast

[still wyvern]

I don't fully remember the characteristics of the level 30 feat that does soulblaze

[teal cargo]

Yea Ascendent blaze

[still wyvern]

ahhh I see, yeah no then its fine

[lofty ginkgo]

The Trauma one is the only one i've unlocked so far

[teal cargo]

Use warp charges to give soulblaze stacks

[still wyvern]

yeah, but it does more damage depending on warp charges right?

oh my god

I'm stupid

[teal cargo]

Yea thas the first one, there are some Trauma enjoyers

[lofty ginkgo]

I think it just does more AOE

[still wyvern]

IGNORE THAT

[stark snow]

heavy attack good for trying to pick out a mob

[jaunty atlas]

wait .. now i realise elecromancy doesn't exist in warhammer .. what surge is ? a smite ?

[lofty ginkgo]

It's fun for sure

[stark snow]

also I use ult a lot with the charge up to push trash away from what I'm trying to hit

or to cover myself while charging

[lofty ginkgo]

Just didn't realise there were different staffs!

[teal cargo]

Ascendent Blaze do a lot more dmg with more charges

[magic burrow]

They call it the Trauma staff, because if you use it you will eventually develop some kind of trauma

[cerulean beacon]

To my fellow psykers, which perk would you reroll?

[still wyvern]

thanks

not that I don't trust the statements earlier

[teal cargo]

idk why it gives a ridiculous amoint of peril

[jaunty atlas]

it gibs mobs everywhere it can, it litteraly shatters them

[night marten]

stamina

[ornate hamlet]

I like using the voidstrike staff

[teal cargo]

It can but you got dmg falloff at edges

[still wyvern]

stamina is useless when you can take the op block feat

[pine iris]

Ascendent blaze is underrated. it knocks down entire hordes, the range is very long and the fire makes them pause a full second or so after they get up. it melts hordes. I rely on it

[teal cargo]

and generates so much peril

Blaze is considered good for Purg

Not used too much for other staffs though

[jaunty atlas]

i wouldn't really recommend it but the power fantasy is a lot more present than purgatus i mean

[teal cargo]

Nah Purg roasting ahorde with firebending feels good

[primal aurora]

it has different range than default ability?

[teal cargo]

Blue fire too

[still wyvern]

use it to your hearts content

if it gives you enjoyment, use it

[magic burrow]

how do you effectively use Purge. It's the one staff I just can't seem to use effectively

[teal cargo]

thas lower dmg than Zealots mundane flamethrower

[jaunty atlas]

hmm. they could flee it least.

[teal cargo]

pretty much like Zealot flamer

[jaunty atlas]

yeah but zealot has ammo

[pine iris]

IDK, it might just be more obvious with it on because enemies way in the back go on fire

[jaunty atlas]

very few ammo

[night marten]

just practice, you'll get better with it for sure

[teal cargo]

True Zealot do use ammo and has a very long reload/switch time

[ebon jolt]

My least favorite part is trying to hit a mutant in a weakspot with the special and having my cursor randomly dragged to the floor.

[teal cargo]

But significantly longer range, dmg and fire time

[cerulean beacon]

Ah yes the metals bars there even though there is clear line of sight phucked your psyker brain there

[jaunty atlas]

go in the meatgrinder and look how the dot application behave. once you'll have the timing you will kill a lot, and you can use a smidge of fire to control. it's awesome, plus the peril progression is very predicable and it sinegyze quite nicely with our feats

[dusky lantern]

is the nerf to move tech intentional or a bug?

[pine iris]

lore friendly - any form of light screening mesh kills psyker powers

[coarse ether]

🥲

[teal cargo]

Yra i hate that

stupid railing blocking BB

[still wyvern]

least you'll never have to deal with Bulwarks imaginary protective shield

[primal aurora]

All the time I've tried to use Purge staff I felt I could do the same with Void staff while peeking from cover instead of just standing out there in open.

[still wyvern]

BB will deal with those mean poo-poo dung eaters

[teal cargo]

You get a lotta warp charges

[jaunty atlas]

totally and at longer range BUT. you have a lot more control with purge. a packed team canned get reared or charged

[teal cargo]

and can do dmg through elites mixed in

[tender terrace]

is there anything more satisfying than shooting a massive charged force staff bubble down that hallway before last checkpoint on the assassin mission, tho?

[pine iris]

@primal aurora use it on 4/5 with increased hordes. compare to void in the same situation.

[still wyvern]

Acting like you're Sauron with the Power Maul(s)

[pine iris]

(Void is my favorite, just a bit low DPS)

[cerulean beacon]

When you aim about head level at a horde using a force staff charging up RMB

[teal cargo]

I like Surge but improved VFX has made it hard to play

[jaunty atlas]

it's not that low. really. when you master the timing is quite a powerfull autogun with aoe bullets, explosion and massive perfo

[tender terrace]

oops thats what i meant i fixed what i said lul

[cerulean beacon]

lol then i totally agree with you

[coarse ether]

can someone explain why I'm in peril explosion?

[pine iris]

if the horde closes in the void becomes too slow. If you are playing 4/5 a non-charged void shot doesnt do much damage or momentum against enemies

[tender terrace]

you bb above 97%? lol

[primal aurora]

ugh, does not compute

[coarse ether]

it's 97%?

[jaunty moth]

u bb at 98 not 97

[still wyvern]

yeah you bbed way too early

[cerulean beacon]

Ogryn math checks out

[still wyvern]

I wouldn't say you should even bb at 97% even if its at a threshold

[coarse ether]

damn didn't know that, thanks!

[pine iris]

you charged up off target for 1%

[still wyvern]

I'm pretty sure peril works by decimal so you can still get peril blasted by the warp eaters even at 97% it happened to me earlier

96% I trust more

[tender terrace]

lmao figures

[still wyvern]

I do know that quelling peril with hands is pretty god damn slow though but if I need to do the Jimmy Neutron Brainblast, then I'm using them than swapping to my staff constantly

[grave bobcat]

Nik you lvl 30?

[still wyvern]

yeah

[grave bobcat]

Just checkin lol

[still wyvern]

lmao

[pine iris]

I only play damnation when I went to bed early, took my vitamins and said my prayers the night before

[still wyvern]

I expected that since I don't play Psyker too much, it doesn't mesh well with my playstyles but when I did I thought it was OP as all hell when I duoed a damnation at level 24 psyker

[still wyvern]

did you remember to have a good meal?

[pine iris]

yes and sensible portions

[still wyvern]

😔

[grave bobcat]

It's not you but more that people will come in lvl 14 like "Yo my BB takes ages" lmao

[still wyvern]

lmao yeah no thats

thats expected

I think the feat makes it so much better but I didn't have problems with BB

[magic burrow]

Im going to play around with the purgatus staff a bit. What's a good purge feat build?

[mystic dome]

I love how the moment i go for the cliffhanger pennance that my team becomes Damnation soloing god killers capable of slaughtering millions of poxwalkers each

[grave bobcat]

High int damnation pog

[mystic dome]

i just want my psyker drip

[steel flame]

Ah it so nice seeing darktide being discussed on a darktide channel

[still wyvern]

honestly since purg gets a lot of warp charges, you could take the first level 30 feat, I don't think its very good though comapred to quick rapid BBs

[steel flame]

Anyone enjoy a build with trauma staff on heresy or damantion?

[jaunty moth]

trauma staff doo doo

maximum doo doo

[steel flame]

It feels a bit too scaled back, which is understandable after how busted the corustation staff was

[still wyvern]

absolutely not

[still wyvern]

I think Trauma Staff is goated, I ran it in Damnation and won as level 24

[teal cargo]

Trauma is Conflag, not corruscation

[steel flame]

Ah yeah. Even compared to conflag it's scaled back. Or maybe that's because I haven't used one with 70% aoe

[teal cargo]

I got that one by accident

[mystic dome]

i'm stuck at 6/7

been trying all day

[teal cargo]

Trauma does not feel good tp me

Yea Psyker penances are a PITA

I got maintain warp charges and cliffhanger randomly

[steel flame]

Honestly palpatine staff doesn't feel nice either. Needs more feedback

[mystic dome]

Teams suddenly just become hyper capable demigods, fucking fusion danced into me so that i cant have the time to yeet them off a cliff

[teal cargo]

What you mean? Surge they jus improved the VFX to make it more powerful looking

and it jus blinding now lol

[primal aurora]

use welding googles

[flint plover]

yes, powerful

[mystic dome]

the palpy staff feels awkward to use because you cant tell which enemies its gonna chain to

[teal cargo]

price of unlimited power

[mystic dome]

also the fact the psyker doesnt have a WITNEEEES YOUR DOOOOOoueoooOOOM line while using it dissapoints me greatly

[still wyvern]

you can get cliffhanger if it really annoys you by just sitting on the not-train and abilitying a horde off

I forget the mission name, never good with these

[mystic dome]

aye i've been trying that lmao, havent found a team cooperative with it

[jaunty atlas]

they gave it to the zealot

[still wyvern]

weird, I think its the easiest penance to grab for Psyker comparatively to the previously 100% bb damage to monster

then again you have been getting awful matches

[mystic dome]

i litterally dont think i'll ever even attempt the bb challenge

[foggy tangle]

do you have to finish the run for the monstrum penance to count?

[still wyvern]

which ones that?

[still wyvern]

I was so happy when my team actually cooperated with me on that mission

I lost it but I got the penance as soon as I did it

[mystic dome]

i had a run not long out of beta where a psyker did that and the pennance didnt proc

[still wyvern]

game was sending personal hit squads of dogs and snipers while I ran around a beast of nurgle despite being underlevelled

[still wyvern]

[grave bobcat]

Can just do it by accident anyways

[still wyvern]

I think if you try it, Beast of Nurgle is the easiest monster to do it on

Plague Ogryn runs the risk of dying while Beast will probably just eat you

[grave bobcat]

I prefer plague ogre

[still wyvern]

I think Plague Ogre is easier to dodge and block but Beast can't really kill you unless you're really unfortunate

[grave bobcat]

The slow can be a pain

[still wyvern]

(and don't mind running the risk of dying because you'll have no health everytime you botch Nurgle)

yeah the slow is a pain but you can embrace just full curse

beast can't kill you with it amazingly

[mystic dome]

I can only hope they do another pass of pennances in the next patch

[still wyvern]

I think this is a good method if you can get a team to just watch over you or someone to just make sure specials or gunners dont run in for a quick jab

[mystic dome]

Cause the ogryn change was a joke too

[still wyvern]

pray 🤞

[teal cargo]

Easiest is DH with an Ogryn Shield

[still wyvern]

oh yeah that works too

[grave bobcat]

Man high int damnation is so fun lol

[still wyvern]

I forgot DH existed tbh

[steel flame]

Does anyone else have the feeling we aren't going to get subclasses but just more classes in general?

[still wyvern]

I just finally realized what int was supposed to mean

YES IT IS ITS SO CHAOTIC

[grave bobcat]

lmao

[teal cargo]

Its no joke with all the specials

[still wyvern]

I'd be all for it if they add a Skitarii/Tech Priest

[mystic dome]

well theres a datamine from a couple weeks ago with the new classes sorta identified

[still wyvern]

I think the hound modifier is currently broken and makes it High INT 2.0

[grave bobcat]

How I feel it should be tbh

[simple junco]

I think it's a bit of both. Each staff is almost its own subclass with how it's supposed to be used

[grave bobcat]

Actually getting overrun

[steel flame]

I want a tech priest class so bad

[still wyvern]

and I think Heresy is still broken and stuck on High INT? Honestly I don't think it would be possible to tell aside from seeing 2 monsters

[teal cargo]

We should get an Eldar, represent Kerillian

[still wyvern]

Give the Eldar a stupid Javelin that actually does FF

[mystic dome]

There's meant to be gunlugger for ogryn, some kind of squad leader for vet, a tankier zealot and something to do with shields for psyker

[jovial frigate]

should i buy it

[steel flame]

You should buy it

[night marten]

yes

[teal cargo]

Buy it

[mystic dome]

it's 380 lmao, no reason not to

[teal cargo]

thas a goodly roll

[steel flame]

Damage means nothing, buy it

[echo parrot]

You should always buy a 380, no matter what it is

[jovial frigate]

i already have so many 370+s i need plastic for

and i never play fire

[teal cargo]

Yea its not like dockets are any use

[night marten]

ok then don't

[echo parrot]

Should buy it anyways

[jaunty moth]

yea ive got 1 mil on multiple chars

[jovial frigate]

i will buy it to salvage it

[echo parrot]

You never know when something will get buffed or nerfed

[steel flame]

I'm so annoyed they won't let us scrap weapons for materials only money. It SUCKS

[teal cargo]

I mean what are you saving dockets for?

[echo parrot]

Months from now you might end up liking purg after a patch and you will regert not buying it

[jovial frigate]

big numbers

[teal cargo]

Jus buy it

[echo parrot]

ALWAYS buy a 380

[steel flame]

Nothing beats pressing f and purging the entire map.

[jovial frigate]

what stats do you even go for on fire staff

like perks/blessings

[jaunty moth]

everything but damage

[teal cargo]

Crit

[steel flame]

Burn is the main thing

[teal cargo]

For perks/blessings, crit is good

[steel flame]

And cloud radius

[jaunty moth]

for blesssings i say warp flurry and not interuptable

[jaunty atlas]

guys ... the game is trolling or what ?

[teal cargo]

Yea or the suppress on kill

[grave bobcat]

My first toxic player that isn't an orgyn lmfao

[steel flame]

Wowee that's terrible

[jaunty atlas]

no i mean .. i cannot replace the dockets

[stark snow]

the resource cost is just bugged I think

[jaunty moth]

i wouldnt even roll it

[jaunty atlas]

i have no lock, this is why i upgraded it

[stark snow]

you just need a little more plasteel or diamintine

go do 1 mission and then try it again

[jaunty atlas]

oh

well, tomorrow

thanks !

[still wyvern]

wow you encountered a toxic Ogryn?

my experience has been Zealots and Vets

[jaunty atlas]

that was a reroll, obv

[still wyvern]

[jaunty atlas]

you need time to adapt

[simple junco]

Zealots are disproportionately salty for some reason

[jaunty atlas]

what ? we're not the saltiest ?

[steel flame]

The day the ogryns turn toxic is the day the imperium dies

[simple junco]

I've only met clueless psykers, haven't met a salty one yet in the wild

[steel flame]

Zealot all have a hero complex and they are all salty because they think they should be able to solo hordes on heresy and can't

[still wyvern]

I main Zealot and I cry when I see a jerk

[mystic dome]

Tbf zealots have the right to be salty

[stark snow]

idk I think zealots have some legit issues.

[steel flame]

Not to hate on zealot, zealot was my favorite class in vermintide

[mystic dome]

Ogryns are better at stagger tanking, Vets massively outdo them with powerswords and psykers can headpop

[jaunty atlas]

i know i'm salty when our military combat gear has a camo and a gigantic parabola covered with blue lights

very

[teal cargo]

Zealots are always trying to dp tjeir penance

the 20 min be under 75% hp

[simple junco]

Or the no shooting one

[teal cargo]

No shooting is fine

but under 75 hp is how they rush off Nd die

[simple junco]

Ehhh... There's a time and a place for it lol

[mystic dome]

yeah zealot pennances can be as annoying as psykers

it's kind of a toxic feedback loop to the players i think

[steel flame]

Its a sniper spotlight

[teal cargo]

No shooting i didnt have much issue doing with enough vets

[idle bay]

NO! No Penances are as annoying as Psykers! We have it ze worse way and we proud of it 🙂

[teal cargo]

Missing 75% health is just griefing

[simple junco]

Psyker penances are, for the most part, good for extended play. You'll eventually get most of them, besides the monstrosity one.

[teal cargo]

and rushing

[steel flame]

its not like zealot in vermintide where thp is broken.

[teal cargo]

blowing up to kill 3 elites is also griefing

[simple junco]

Oh true

[mystic dome]

Pennances mostly dont reward good or skilled play, they're just like wacky asides

[simple junco]

Tbh I've done that on accident when I wasn't paying attention

[mystic dome]

if only they didnt gate off half the good cosmetics that dont require cold hard cash to buy

[frank moat]

Careful around the Veterans, they might mistake it for a BB aura and friendly fire you

[still wyvern]

I didn't have any issue with doing the no shooting and rushing but I heard you could get rushing from losing during the beta?

[jaunty atlas]

you would be suprised how many times it happened

[idle bay]

Thankfully Psyker have it's best cometics hidden behind Penances. Cash shop cosmetics for psykers are hoorendously ugly

Wearing urinals on head

[frank moat]

cash shop is the mismatched camos

[delicate acorn]

Man. I gotta say.

After getting all the other classes to 30, Psyker is by and large the least consistent performer of the operators.

[idle bay]

i bought them all though...

[simple junco]

The only time this phenomenon benefitted me was during a T5 lights out modifier and the vet couldn't see anything, so I illuminated far away targets for him to shoot

[jaunty moth]

i stilll havent wxploded 3 elites yet lmao

[delicate acorn]

Big sad.

[steel flame]

All cash shop Psyker hats are ass

[ivory marsh]

wwait for buffs

[jaunty moth]

all cash shop cosmetics are ass in genral

[teal needle]

Agree I do not wish to wear a public urinal on my head

[grave bobcat]

Lmfao jesus christ

[frank moat]

I prefer the black masked one to the T2 penance masked one

[steel flame]

At least give a dope ass space visor to go with it

[grave bobcat]

We had a literal bot as our 4th player and I said wait to our Zealot. Tells me to get a life calling people bots thinking I'm pro at the game????

[frank moat]

The rest are shite tho

[grave bobcat]

Brother

[still wyvern]

Sienna hat for Zealot

[grave bobcat]

A literal BOT on our team.

-.-

[still wyvern]

Reading is hard work

I was not trained to read.

[idle bay]

This BOT ? 🙂

[jaunty atlas]

to be fair, those shits exist on tabletop too. you hardly want any non librarian psyker in your army

[teal cargo]

Zealots and blindly jumping to righteous anger, is in character

[grave bobcat]

If only

[teal needle]

I think I've seen more unsalvageable dumbasses in heresy than malice

[grave bobcat]

I just said "The bot will implode the moment he touches the floor wait for 4th"

And exactly that happened lmfao

[idle bay]

I know that it's true to game settings. But still looks awful 🙂 Let it be just more hoods

[simple junco]

"Methinks Boht is doin good work, sah"

[steel flame]

It looks better scaled in the tabletop

[jaunty atlas]

that, on the contrary

[grave bobcat]

[simple junco]

F

[idle bay]

If anyone wonder from where current cash shop Psyker outfit originates:

[still wyvern]

honestly.. I kind of wish some of the zealot cosmetics were interchangably worn with the psykers

[grave bobcat]

That was some smoothbrain behaviour if I've ever seen it

[supple skiff]

2 psyker cosmetic, both toilets

[idle bay]

Let Psykers wear ogryn outfits! Ogryn have the BEST!

[still wyvern]

LITTLE UN WEAR OGRYN SHIRT. OGRYN HAVE MANY SHIRT

(Potato Sack)

[steel flame]

The problem is that they are more vertical than the ones on the models and art so they look bad

[supple skiff]

5 shops in a row without a staff LOL

christ this game

[frank moat]

Hardly original I know but at least it's colour-coordinated

[idle bay]

If only they tilted it back a little

[simple junco]

I agree

[steel flame]

If only

Then they would have hair clipping issues ironically

[fresh reef]

How the hell did this bug work anyhow?

[jaunty atlas]

female psykers have a vizor instead of the good or it's just not in game yet ?

[frank moat]

Unavailable

[idle bay]

This one does look nice.. until you see yourself from the back

[simple junco]

The best explanation I've gotten for it, is that some prisoners are given bigger helmets to hold their faith

[ivory marsh]

psykers have the best drip

[frank moat]

Background NPCs get the visor in the "story" cutscenes though

[idle bay]

Generic Psyker outfit is my choice until cash shop gets something really cool

[steel flame]

Its probably gonna rotate through the cash shop next week

[vestal finch]

So many games today have awful clipping issues, and it feels like the developers put 0 effort into making different outfits look compatible with each other

[civic tendon]

The shadow in this is gorgeous 😊 😍

[jovial frigate]

ogryn urinal

[glossy hazel]

Why is it that whenever I play psyker I always get the biggest glue sniffer teammates who get downed to fucking poxwalkers. Why.

[simple junco]

What difficulty are you playing on?

[glossy hazel]

Heresy

[jaunty atlas]

the only real psyker

[jovial frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/toulet-toilet-gif-24765276

[vestal finch]

The God Emperor sends his strongest soldiers to the hardest battles

[steel flame]

I wish people knew to push poxbusters instead of shooting them.

But then veterans gotta shoot I guess

[simple junco]

Heresy is cursed. They're littered with overconfident and penance chasing teammates

[still wyvern]

Your Beloved told you it was for a good cause

[simple junco]

The moment I switched to T5, they all went away lol

[long wharf]

I highly recommend avoiding quickplay on heresy or damnation

[vestal finch]

I rarely had problems with T4 when I played

[long wharf]

hit the LFG channel instead

[vestal finch]

Only did pubs

Just that good I guess

[simple junco]

QP is fine with Damnation, QP for Heresy is... Something else

[steel flame]

T5 doesn't forgive people who try to solo

[fresh reef]

Instead of bad players you just get no players

[glossy hazel]

The veteran shooting poxwalkers instead of ranged enemies, the zealot rushing into gunners and getting downed instantly, the ogryn planting his shield down because two poxwalkers looked at him funny and psykers using brainburst for trash mob enemies instead of doing something usefull.

It's all so tiring.

[simple junco]

Bots get good work done, until they don't lol

[still wyvern]

NO PLEASE, I NEED FRIENDS

IT IS LONELY QUICKPLAYING INTO T4 AND T5

[long wharf]

so hit up the LFG channel

[still wyvern]

NEVER

[simple junco]

Honestly, the randomness of QP keeps it fresh

[steel flame]

I only use bb with psyker fire build if I need shield, I'm out of range or my auto bb is on cooldown

[long wharf]

find a group that's willing to communicate

[still wyvern]

I need to find them in the wild

[idle bay]

Low intencity pug Heresy sometimes plays just fine

[long wharf]

it's infinitely more fun

[still wyvern]

my problem isnt that I can't complete it

[jaunty atlas]

oO

[still wyvern]

my problem is that I just don't see people

[frank moat]

I'm trapped in Game Pass Purgatory and half my quickplay games are putting me into solo games anyway

[idle bay]

LFG channels then

[still wyvern]

Snufkin, I implore you to try getting hounded once while you only have bots

[steel flame]

You have my condolences

[still wyvern]

it feels like the bots have the worst time dealing with hounds

[icy latch]

Hello, Psyker chat. Asking for a friend, and curious myself. What is it that psyker excels at?

[simple junco]

Shift +A with extreme prejudice

[long wharf]

CC

[steel flame]

Can be cc, or elite killing.

[simple junco]

Depends. Crowd control, elite removal, or CDR if they spec into it

[icy latch]

basically from a heated debate that is the consensus me and the vet chat got to.

[still wyvern]

actually I'm curious does the 15% non-warp damage still affect BB?

[vestal finch]

yes

[simple junco]

It does, but it shouldn't

[still wyvern]

I know it was weird when it actually did do that (if it still does)

great

[icy latch]

Elite killing only really works based on my observations on lower difficulties as brainburst tapers off hard on heresy+

[ivory marsh]

killing sniper when vet cant do it

[simple junco]

brb killing the third sniper

[steel flame]

You can go all in on bb build but it suffers when you aren't using bb and it's not as fun

[icy latch]

basically "support" role it's just a shame the class isn't really built for one

[glossy hazel]

Getting downed.

||Jokes aside, he doesn't really excel at anything. The other 3 classes are more specialized and do everything better, what Psyker has is adaptability. CC, Single Target, Horde Clear, Tanking. It all depends on what you kit him for but 9 out of 10 times a different class will be better at what you kit him for.||

[teal cargo]

Support/reviving

[steel flame]

You can 1 button hordes for days at least

[simple junco]

Really though, think of Psykers as a "wipe condition removal" class. They can either stun the big bois, remove a LOT of the small bois, or make it easier to take out the REALLY big bois.

[ivory marsh]

Pysker with axe build is good at waiting for the entire team to die and rezzing them I guess

[grave bobcat]

Lmfao

[still wyvern]

I would argue Psyker is about as easy to play and survive in Damnation next to Vet

[steel flame]

Force swords eat elites for breakfast, staffs trash the trash

[icy latch]

ye, it's interesting he has infinite dodges which i did see helps w survivability on damnation w the force sword

[simple junco]

It's almost easier to survive in t5, since your job is extremely clear cut

[grave bobcat]

I hate how often I see this lol

[steel flame]

Deflector is straight up best blessing in the game, and mixed with infinite dodges let's you get away with so much bullshit you shouldn't be able too

[simple junco]

Yuuup, it's just a shame how rare it is

[icy latch]

just a shame that sword is super single target oriented

[grave bobcat]

I'll get around to using that at some point lol

[steel flame]

It does hordes fine enough. Staff more than carries that weakness though

[frank moat]

just a shame it's skins are so fugly

[simple junco]

It does great as a Mutant Disposal Service

[icy latch]

electro staff?

which one?

[steel flame]

Fire staff and fireball too

[simple junco]

Electro staff shouldn't be used on hordes lol. Purgatus and void are the horde clearing ones

[icy latch]

cause as a vet i look at the staff dps and compared to the guns they seem very underwhelming.

[grave bobcat]

CC support, not dps (surge)

[simple junco]

Did you calculate the fact that void has infinite penetration and purgatus applies a stacking burn that gets stronger every half second?

They do different things

[lime gorge]

Damn RNGesus bricked my sword on consecrate

[grave bobcat]

Wat

I want that

[still wyvern]

this is most peoples reactions to things and I think it clouds their perspective too much

[grave bobcat]

That's a good sword

[icy latch]

didn't know void has infinite pen, that's at least good

[still wyvern]

Power Maul has shit damage but you can literally perma stun hordes, reapers and bulwarks

[grave bobcat]

Not the best but its good

[lime gorge]

its good but I wanted deflector for 2nd perk

instead of unstable power

[grave bobcat]

Meh deflector crutch

[steel flame]

Its why the fps people can't understand psyker. Gun stats don't tell the whole story with staffs

[lime gorge]

yeah I just prefer the axe if I'm not running it

[grave bobcat]

Forgot who said it earlier lol

[ivory marsh]

Psyker needs force claymore

[icy latch]

thing about burn ticks is that they're insanely slow vs high RPM or high burst DPS.

[grave bobcat]

Axe waiting for team to die build

[lime gorge]

haha

[ivory marsh]

It was me

[simple junco]

It also goes through everything in a 15m cone, something that can't be done by a Vet

You're comparing, near literally, apples to oranges

[still wyvern]

Trauma staff gets slept on too much, it can reliably deal with hordes by stunning them constantly

I have survived in a corner with hordes many times on T4 and T5 with just the Trauma staff

it has saved me in shit situations

[simple junco]

Not a dog on the argument, but you're not looking at it from the right angle

[icy latch]

which is good i want psyker to be good. I'm just trying to see what the general consensus is. Imo he and his staves could use some more love.

he seems to have to work twice as hard to do things that other classes can do more easily

[sonic basin]

Yeah, I felt this yesterday

[grave bobcat]

Tbh thats the fun for me

lol

[sonic basin]

No matter what staff I use, everyone else on my team can do better

[icy latch]

isn't the void pen on headshots only?

[sonic basin]

Except for the lighting staff. But it gives me eye strain

[icy latch]

really wish psykers brain burst feat that causes a brainburst every 15 secs's cooldown was lowered to like 3-5 seconds.

[still wyvern]

I would argue unlike Ogrynn, you don't get a bullshit revive capability in the form of deflector and the absurd block feat Psykers get

[icy latch]

that would single handedly buff the strength of the class

[frank moat]

Would make guns a lot more fun too

[icy latch]

100%

[still wyvern]

3-5 seconds would sorry, break Psyker imho

[sonic basin]

Is the block feat worth it? I never needed to block that much

[simple junco]

That's... A bit too much. Inherent peril resistance? Sure, but 5 seconds that would literally be a must-pick ability lol

[clear heath]

I wish they would just rework brain burst and warp charges tbh

[still wyvern]

it is incredibly powerful if you find yourself in the line of fire a lot

[grave bobcat]

You'd prob be more content adapting to how it is rather than wishing it was different though lol

[still wyvern]

by that I mean melee which is most of the time

[icy latch]

i'd say zealot would still out burst dps psyker

w a powermaul

[simple junco]

brb picking off the sniper

again

[still wyvern]

lmao

yeah okay buddy

[clear heath]

https://youtu.be/vAUJnVK9F78

[still wyvern]

Psyker won't have the burst capability but you won't see sustain or that BS

[clear heath]

I believe this is with 20% block cost reduction btw

[steel flame]

I know I'm doing my job well when the team zealot complains about not being able to charge into hordes

[clear heath]

which can be achieved with 2 curio perks or 1 weapon perk, so not too hard

[sonic basin]

Does it work against bullets?

[still wyvern]

yes it can work with deflector

but you need deflector to stop bullets

by default it works on melee which also includes picking people up

[steel flame]

Super good on deflector with peril block

And electric staff

[sonic basin]

Deflector?

[clear heath]

Peril blocking is a noticebly weaker on force sword cause slower passive quell, but still very useful

[still wyvern]

its a blessing for the force sword

[steel flame]

Let's force sword block ranged

[still wyvern]

^

[clear heath]

Force sword passive quell is like 3x slower than a non-force weapon

[sonic basin]

Wtf is that op bullshit. I need to try it out when I get home

[frank moat]

You can still block ranged while reviving if you turn the camera, right?

[sonic basin]

Well shit. I hope the shop RNG gods bless me

[still wyvern]

I would say that you should just be quelling it normally instead of passive, I've never run the problem of needing to rely on passive outside of long downtimes

[icy latch]

Either way appreciate the input.

[steel flame]

Yep

[still wyvern]

I got it on my like first FS so hopefully you get blessed by RNGesus

[frank moat]

fraggin neato

[steel flame]

It looks like it shouldn't work but it does

[still wyvern]

I saw the absurdity of my friend literally sitting on me to revive me in T5 so many times while we were getting peppered by shooters and gunners

[clear heath]

You'll want any non-force weapon and 20% block cost reduction to stand still against it
Although honestly you could easily do it with 0% if you actually try to dodge.

[fresh reef]

Emperor, why?

[frank moat]

eh, it doesn't even look like the regular blocking should work

[still wyvern]

for a second I thought this was peddler

[frank moat]

I only found out I was revive-blocking hours in when I looked up why enemies were bouncing off me

[still wyvern]

my brain just saw guns and thought about peddler selling psyker only guns and swords

[steel flame]

Peril block is best with fireball and static staff, fire staff really prefers the quell movement speed,

[frank moat]

They should put staffs into the weapon pools for all the other classes so that they can suffer as we do

[still wyvern]

they get staffs but unable to actually generate peril so thusly they can only use the weapon special on them

[frank moat]

[still wyvern]

granted I think Ogryn might actually be dangerous with it

probably break it into a million pieces at that same light

[woven crow]

Psyker is so much weaker, just grinded it out and went back to some others, and holy shit, it's like a handicap.

[still wyvern]

people keep repeating this, but I don't think they understand psyker

and it frustrates me because it'll end up buffing psyker instead of the other classes that need it (my source is that I saw a poll that listed Psyker as needing a buff the most)

(Hint, Ogryn)

[woven crow]

It's not so much weaker, but it just feels like harder work

[steel flame]

Psyker does have some bad weapons, but he's kinda on a knife edge right now, buff him in the wrong place and he's gonna go into broken

[ivory marsh]

im not sure how you can play other classes at 30 and come to the conclusion that psyker is perfectly balanced among them

[still wyvern]

Ogryn made me the most depressed to even get to 30 and Zealot is just not able to pace with the others but certainly way better and in a more tolerable spot than Ogryn

[fresh reef]

we do a tad bit of trolling
a miniscule amount

[woven crow]

Its hard to balance Psyker imo, anyway, because I just think the whole brainblast thing is a terrible idea in the first place

[still wyvern]

I think Psyker needs a rework, but I do not think whatsoever that brainblast is crap

[simple junco]

BB is great if used right

[cosmic heath]

brainblast needing 2 to kill most specials on heresy+ feels rough

[sonic basin]

BB scales super poorly. Pretty good early game, near useless end game

[steel flame]

Best part of brainblast is when you are able to trigger brain blast without having to use brainblast

[sonic basin]

2 BB to kill specials is bullshit and makes the ability useless

[simple junco]

But some of the feats really feel like some of them should be inherent passives

[still wyvern]

BB was borderline OP on CBT and I think people don't remember how stupid it was that Psyker was the only reliable answer to anything with Carapace Armour

[steel flame]

Force sword says hello

[woven crow]

Overpowered or underpowered, it's still just fucking annoying.

[still wyvern]

Some specials can still get one shot easily with BB

[simple junco]

You're slamming your head too hard against hordes. If you're running a surge, sit back and pick off ogryns as they come to make space for your team

[still wyvern]

you probably shouldnt be building into BB then, I built my psyker to use BB as a second option to trauma staff and force sword

[simple junco]

If you're running purge/void, put a half charge of flame into the horde and then swap to BB

[cosmic heath]

I'm still stuck on 5/7 knocking off a ledge

[still wyvern]

so far I've seen the 4% chance for warp charges to be another way to get them incredibly reliably instead of BB as long as you can sit near teammates

[glass orchid]

anyone have a good feat build for psyker?

[untold aspen]

what curios you guys using on psyker?

[simple junco]

Depends on what you're wanting to do

[grave bobcat]

Full toughness

[simple junco]

2 toughness, 1 wound

[glass orchid]

atm just something that gets me to 30 without necking it since I heard it gets way better past 20

[woven crow]

Go for the torrent one infiltration and push the horde on that little bridge on the last stage. I got it no joke first time I tried to get it

[untold aspen]

alright thank you 😄

[cosmic heath]

tried a few times but every time I push only a couple go off

even at 99%

[steel flame]

111332 fire staff, instant full warp charges, press f delete map

[grave bobcat]

Perks are 20% gun resist x 3

also

[simple junco]

Ehhh... the levelling build isn't great. Try running 3111 if you need more damage

[grave bobcat]

Working towards 12% combat ability cd

[untold aspen]

does the gunner perk count towards the normal ones too?

[simple junco]

If you like using BB, then run 3211

[grave bobcat]

nope

[untold aspen]

or shotgunners?

[grave bobcat]

nope

[untold aspen]

ahh rip

[grave bobcat]

🙂

[night marten]

121122 purge+deflector FS build

[untold aspen]

them shotgunners on heresey up to damnation do be hitting different

[grave bobcat]

But not being instantly cracked by reapers/gunners in general is verr nice

[still wyvern]

yes, they will invite you to the immaterium in a few quick easy steps

[grave bobcat]

Can generally stunlock or avoid shotgunners kill range

[steel flame]

6 charges is nice damage but I found auto bb builds charges faster

[grave bobcat]

Trying to do the high int damnation on rn but there always that 1 dude rushing in 😢

[night marten]

I'm not using 6 charges

[untold aspen]

yhh but mostly my stupid head runs at front 😂

so shotgunners are mean

[cosmic heath]

I still think its funny I got "going out with a bang" before Cliffhanger

[untold aspen]

but full toughness and gunner resistance ight thanks you 😄

[steel flame]

Ignore me, wrong traits

Wish the over warp charges did more stacks of fire though

[night marten]

2 procs kill a rager on damn, 3 kills a bulwark, and getting procs while burning a horde is pretty easy

[grave bobcat]

Tbh will say that's just what I value most. But people in here all have differing strats

[steel flame]

I'll give it a shot when I get off work

[woven crow]

You just spam it over and over, it counts over a few seconds

[untold aspen]

fair i was trying max health and it was okayish but not as good as toughness due to passive where you get 25% toughness back with warp charges

[grave bobcat]

Yeah I think max hp is pointless. Since toughness has so many ways to be regen'd for us

[untold aspen]

true its so far only really useful on zealot and ogryn

[woven crow]

I think the opposite for the same reason. You can always regen toughness, you can't do shit with health

[grave bobcat]

Only got a lvl 12? Zealot but like 100+ hrs on my psyker lmfao

[mellow spruce]

To be fair, there are alot of things, especially specials that will magically instagib your toughness, shotgunners and bombers come to mind.

[grave bobcat]

Bomber resist is next on my agenda 😛

[steel flame]

If you are taking health damage with psyker either shit has really hit the fan or you are where you shouldn't be

[grave bobcat]

YEah I can agree with that

[simple junco]

Yeah, pretty much

[still wyvern]

Shotgunners are just 'Don't get hit.'

but sometimes they will just do it just for giggles

like shooting through walls or at least the floor

[fringe tangle]

Yeah, BB scales very poorly, so hopefully the devs come up with a solution for that. Like making BB do more damage on higher difficulties for example. I barely use BB unless it's for a special or far away elite on higher difficulty, any other BB are just the passive ones that occur from feats.

[mellow spruce]

Hah, I take health damage on my psyker when a scab spawns behind and slaps the back of my character's head.

[grave bobcat]

Why weren't you 100% toughness tho? lol

[high agate]

Moreso HP is worthless as soon as you drop toughness. Even with a 60% increase you'll still lose half your HP or more from a single dreg shooter burst

on damn*

[still wyvern]

The only way BB should get touched is if they do a psyker rework, I agree with earlier statements

[woven crow]

Rear attacks can go through 100 I believe

[simple junco]

The only reason I really lose toughness is from shooter squads that our vet forgot about

[still wyvern]

swaying Psyker in any way is going to make or break the class but I think it'd take a lot more to make Psyker shit

if you hate BB charge-up just take the level 30 feat that makes it 2 seconds

[simple junco]

(It's life changing)

[still wyvern]

and you'll see how stupidly broken it will be if we suddenly made BB like incredibly fast

[mellow spruce]

Well, yes, it naturally follows that if BB was better, we might feel it performed better and a sharpshooter main will claim that its broken when it outperofrms them in anything, ever.

[stray solar]

oi

[still wyvern]

ello stranger

[stray solar]

is this chat just one guy on an uncountable number of accounts

[still wyvern]

TRULY

[stray solar]

you guys scare me

[leaden pier]

lol

[simple junco]

Pretty much

[leaden pier]

the psyker hivemind

[still wyvern]

I will now re-enact the entirety of Moomins for Inishuni's entertainment

[mellow spruce]

That one guy must be very, very good at multitasking.

[grave bobcat]

Nop

[simple junco]

We are, yes

[grave bobcat]

And if you're being hit by normal melee trash fix thy movement

[jaunty atlas]

Huuh.. peeps. I pulled a Daemonhost 2 floors above i have no idea how. 5b or 6b can do that ?!

[still wyvern]

as it currently stands, most of the complaints with Psyker are that BBs are too slow

BB is an attack that can go through walls and without direct line of sight, though you can say thats like the plasma gun except BB doesn't take ammo and can be easily spammed if you just go through the effort of draining it to 96-97% peril

[simple junco]

They officially know too much

[still wyvern]

hmm..

[grave bobcat]

Uh oh

[still wyvern]

I think we have to move to the contingency plan

[cursive plover]

how dafuq do i get da staff

i wanna shoot lightning n shiet

[simple junco]

Pray

[grave bobcat]

Make it

[jaunty atlas]

If only ye knew he's only one of us

[cursive plover]

mashallah

[stray solar]

always watching witches

[high agate]

i cant figure out what the fuck to name my psyker aAAAHHHHHHHHH

[grave bobcat]

k last attempt on t5 high int cause goddamn these runs are painful

[still wyvern]

if I didn't input lag I'd join

in fact I might try it

[stray solar]

mine would be schizophrenicus

[grave bobcat]

Can come if you want

[simple junco]

Either press random or Brain McBursty

[grave bobcat]

Input lag?

[still wyvern]

I'll try it out why not

[grave bobcat]

ping?

[still wyvern]

yeah

[round shuttle]

BB speed is fine, the problem is that it doesn’t scale at all in higher difficulties so it gets less and less useful as you enter diff 4 and 5. This forces psyker to switch from sick anti-armor class with synergistic feats at low diff to staff guy with tangentially complementary feats at high diff. Other classes keep their identity throughout all difficulties, only psyker has this problem

[grave bobcat]

I usually get forced onto NA so dw

It'll be my problem lmfao

[still wyvern]

I can show it in a video it's hilarious

[grave bobcat]

The fucking stupidest shit happens on ping

[still wyvern]

I only play Diff 4 and Diff 5

I literally do not see any issue with the BB

[grave bobcat]

I tried vaulting a normal ass fence to drop down to the lower level... Except my vault didn't stop and just floated me into the sky

Then I fell for 120 fall damage 🙂

I'm annoyed I didn't clip that cause we were fighting a nurgie at the same time lol

[still wyvern]

BEHOLD

the floor is made out of glue

[simple junco]

BB is fine, if it's usable in T5 it's a pretty good consensus that it's an okay ability as it is. Are there better? Sure. For now, what we got is usable.

[grave bobcat]

I'll raise you

[simple junco]

Especially when you consider we don't have to worry about ammo or grenades

[grave bobcat]

My Ogryn gets eaten by the elevator

the "uh oh" kills me in chat

[still wyvern]

I am literally terrified that they decide to give Psyker somehow Vampirism so that they can sustain permanently on higher difficulties

OH

[stray solar]

oh no

[still wyvern]

I had something like this in the CBT, I managed to clip out from the elevator walls

and I fell to my doom

[stray solar]

WHAT

[still wyvern]

earlier when the elevator reached the bottom, it was there invisibly but it suddenly teleported back up and came down again

[stray solar]

that ogryn clip made me shoot cola up my nose

for fucks sake

[still wyvern]

LMAO

now that's funny too

this elevator is so cursed

[grave bobcat]

This game on high ping is wild

It's like you're on an air hockey table

Scooting around just ready to fly off

[timber halo]

anyone got any tips for 'going out with a bang'

[simple junco]

Die lucky

[stray solar]

highly recommend getting a keyboard with super fast switch activation

game goes haywire if you input too fast

[timber halo]

thought as much 😅

[grave bobcat]

Trying to find it but a literally have like

[still wyvern]

I think back then, there was a glitch floating around that counted Plasma Gun going off as part of the penance

[grave bobcat]

A clip of the hack device just rejecting me

[still wyvern]

was it just not accepting your thing while on the right inputs?

[simple junco]

tbh I got this while using the purg staff yesterday

[timber halo]

does the self exploding thing guaranteed kill specific elites?

[still wyvern]

that sounds incredibly horrid

but funny