psyker-class

[jovial frigate]

makes sense

[tall mango]

is upgrading the one on the left worth it?

[runic hornet]

even 70 versus 80 means you'll miss helmet dreg damnation breakpoints on damage, and significantly less blast radius, consdierably more grief charging up

trauma really only feels good at 80=80-80

[tribal knoll]

Yeah whoops derped out too thought it was a void lmfao, my bad

[hardy socket]

one on the left is goated ngl

[runic hornet]

I've used a bunch of like 60-80-80 distributions and they all felt extremely lacking in some way

[warm delta]

nah burn is low

[left basin]

and abandoned the idea of using brainburst as a workable mechanic other than to keep up warpcharges

[tribal knoll]

I hate that I have to, it's such a boring ability and every 25 seconds is quite often

[jovial frigate]

i apparently had this in my bags, would this suffice for testing on damn @runic hornet

[tribal knoll]

the feat with 4% chance to gain warp charge on kill feels like it never procs, and because they all expire after 25 seconds it kinda.. sucks? but I take that one

[jovial frigate]

if so i'll spin up meat grinder and actually try this thing

[simple junco]

If BB got faster with each concurrent use, it would feel pretty nice

[bleak summit]

My favorite thing about bb is having a veteran snipe the specialist on the last bit of charge robbing me of my warp charge

[simple junco]

If you're doing it for the WC, always target trash.

[tall mango]

BB with the level 30 ability that boosts its charge speed feels great, otherwise it feels way too slow

[river crest]

really wish that feat was baseline. Would make both ult and BB feel nicer

[left basin]

"the class does not need buffs, it's just confined to making specialists/elites stand in place :)" - veteran mains, probably

[tribal knoll]

^ the problem is how slow it is, have to stop dealing with horde, charge it for 10 years to bb a trash mob, every ~20 seconds (with 5 seconds before expiry on charges)

[warm delta]

no, you still gets your charge, without having to spend that last peril

[runic hornet]

should work, but your active equell speed will be a detriment any time you need to use the staff to quell off BB

[simple junco]

If someone snipes it, you still get the charge?

[runic hornet]

because sometimes you end up in a ranged situation

[tall mango]

meanwhile those same veterans can kill the elites way faster

[jovial frigate]

ye

[warm delta]

yes

[runic hornet]

you can still throw lmb orbeez though

[warm delta]

if you are like half way channeling

[hot surge]

i always find it 50/50 if I still get charge or not

[river crest]

as long as you were 50%+ done charging it

[runic hornet]

do not discount the power of orbeez

[left basin]

down with the veterans

[runic hornet]

they suppress as hard as fuck

[hot surge]

ahh thats why

[runic hornet]

supression behavior is sus as fuck against riflemen who are standing in the open

but it's really good against enemies who are in cover already

[tribal knoll]

you can throw lmb orbeez during bb?

[simple junco]

Wait, that's nuts. Literally 50% to stall whoever they're targetting and get a free charge

[jovial frigate]

becasue im a voidstriker i always discredit lmb

[runic hornet]

no I'm saying if you end up in a situation where you can't use the RMB of trauma

[tribal knoll]

or do you mean to supress? orbeez supress like crazy it's true

[runic hornet]

don't think that BB is your only tool

shoot orbeez out of your staff

[tribal knoll]

ye orbeez bois

[left basin]

i want surge staff to have a single target lightning big big singletarget badabooms on lmb

[runic hornet]

your vet will thank you as long as you're not suprpressing the riflemen he's looking at, at that exact moment

[tribal knoll]

hard to aim cos the crosshair for the staffs fucking sucks

centre dot is like 1 pixel

no way to customise

[tall mango]

should I further upgrade this or find a new one?

[tribal knoll]

good job fatshark

[river crest]

eep, I'd wait for a new one

[left basin]

new 1 for me

[warm delta]

^

[simple junco]

I'm literally running 6 stack AB because vets consistently ignore large shooter squads lol

[jovial frigate]

voidstrike definitely be pissing vets off but it doesnt matter because i can still headshot ranged mobs behind their wall they hide behind

[opal hearth]

hey guys, currently using a voidstrike and power sword - what feats are you guys running for t4/5?

[tribal knoll]

What's the goal rolls and perk/blessings for a force sword?

[tribal knoll]

I run 2-2-1-3-1-1, hbu?

[runic hornet]

deflector blessing, at thatpoint, w/e because you're not gonna get another deflector FS for at least 100 hours

[tribal knoll]

I think I have a semi decent deflector FS 😮

[tall mango]

i use 3-2-3-3-1-3

[bleak summit]

Am I missing the benefit to mind in motion? Didn’t seem like something I’d ever take but people seem to use it.

[left basin]

and it's not even the deflector that's good, it's the perk you pick for it.

[simple junco]

MiM seems to be a QOL thing for people who like to combat BB a lot

[river crest]

it's a dead feat IMO, I don't know why people take it. Maybe if you're going gun psyker but even then I'd rather just passive quell with a melee weapon

[simple junco]

Gets progressively less useful since you can just sidestep while quelling

[cerulean beacon]

This worth 1260 tokens from Melk?

[tall mango]

it should be baseline tbh

[river crest]

I'd say so

20% health and DR vs Gunners is good, and the other two aren't exp/dockets/curio etc

[radiant jasper]

does damage matter on purg staff?

[jovial frigate]

ye id grab that, stam regen is nice at 20% tbh

[simple junco]

Yes, just as much as the other stats

[bleak summit]

Burn is what does most of the damage, no?

[cerulean beacon]

mmk thanks for the suggestions just got to finish farming the Scrip weekly and Ill buy it before it resets

[left basin]

backdash works wonders with good positioning and timing. meem is blech. once i swore by it, 200 hours later i don't find it to be necessary at all

[eternal dirge]

Nah

[simple junco]

Your burn will tick faster with higher damage, and if you're using AB it means you'll get more consistent WC stacks

[radiant jasper]

asking cause I got a 320 or so with low dam and everything else near maxed

[left basin]

burn gives you possible max stacks

[simple junco]

Technically burn and damage work in tandem

[eternal dirge]

But the difference between low and high dmg stat isn’t much

[jovial frigate]

a single dodge slide while quelling is equivalent to a feat

thats a bad feat

[strange sage]

a friend of mine is trying out the psyker, got a surge as his first staff... he stuns them then i blast them back to the Great Ocean where they belong with my voidstrike

[simple junco]

Take a 40% and a 60% staff into T5 Meat Grinder and test it out, the difference is pretty noticable

[left basin]

imagine if the feat would actually speed you up past sprint speed

[jovial frigate]

you know damn well anything fun is not allowed for us witches

[simple junco]

A 40% staff takes around 75% charge to kill a poxwalker, 60% takes 50-ish

[jovial frigate]

look what they did to our boy dueling sword

[bleak summit]

Lol quelling to move to cover

[simple junco]

Quell at mach 5 directly into the path of a mutant

[fresh reef]

What's the lore behind the black eyes?

[left basin]

one day brane borst is gonna make us proud

[left basin]

they started to recruit edgy body-modifying goths who get sclera tattoos

[strange sage]

black eyes? as in a colour option for the eyes?

[fresh reef]

Yes

[strange sage]

my headcannon is that those with the black eyes are trying to hide the fact they daemonhosts

[near wyvern]

They looked directly at a surge staff

[fresh reef]

They were within 3m of a surge staff user, themselves or otherwise

[bleak summit]

Their beloved is just literally Nurgle

[strange sage]

or Cultist-chan

[jovial frigate]

not super sure about the eye thing but im thinking its some weird pseudo homage to the fact that a good amount of sanctioned psykers get their eyeballs burned out as part of their branding

[strange sage]

I think you mean Astropaths

[left basin]

any consensus on who beloved actually is?

[radiant jasper]

Liam Neeson

[strange sage]

as they get the eyes ritually "burned out" by the Emperor (before they would just sew the eyelids shut)

[left basin]

it'sa me, mario

[jovial frigate]

correct, i probably shouldnt have said a 'good amount'. sure theres quite a few but yeah

astropaths are alabama incarnate

[river crest]

black eyes is more of a V2 reference thing. Though it's easy to explain for psykers as warp-related fuckery

[left basin]

mario and luigi are gork and mork

[simple junco]

rip cloud radius

[jovial frigate]

skill diff just roll better

[near wyvern]

Ragermon, I choose you

[left basin]

i'd say it's average

[river crest]

it's the emperor or (more likely) a daemon pretending to be the emperor

[bleak summit]

75% chance it’s a daemon, 20% it’s another psyker fucking with you 4% it’s all in your head 1% it’s the emperor

[fresh reef]

Oh are the black eyes from Devoted Rejects?

[river crest]

I believe so, yes

[fresh reef]

That makes a lot more sense

[left basin]

fucking hell

i chose sienna tattoos unconsciously

i just realised devoted rejects were a thing

[sour bison]

is it me or this blessing doesnt work on staffs?

[left basin]

it doesn't i tink

[sour bison]

great

[strange sage]

would be nice if the blessings were weapon type locked (ie staffs can't get the sustained fire blessing)

[left basin]

would be nice if siker was good

[jovial frigate]

definitely some tangible constant whisper from chaos that seems to 'align' itself with the ideals of the emp'rah

[warm delta]

YOOO I DID IT

[jovial frigate]

congrats

[left basin]

good shit

[bleak summit]

Nice

[fresh reef]

Very nice

[warm delta]

jesus fking christ god knows how many hours I spent, finally I am so done with it

[jovial frigate]

i will permanently be 4/5 for that because i've thrown too many games already trying it

[bleak summit]

Just go into a heresy match solo. Ideally you can snag it before your teammates match make with you.

[fresh reef]

I chose em cuz cool runes on me hands

[left basin]

yes yes

[fresh reef]

Looks very nice with the quelling animation

[lusty wave]

@warm delta what is that penance

[strange sage]

got that through a Malice lvl Intelligence mission with increased horde side... just alt voidstrike blasts through killing zone (bridges to the final section before exfil), the team was relying on me to clear the hordes then they'd swap in when i had to quell between wrath uses

[warm delta]

this

[lusty wave]

Ohh

[left basin]

dick n' cox

[jovial frigate]

i tried it a few times but its always just 3 crushers bing chilling at the start. by the time i set it up the vet snorting 5mg addies is already spamming F

[lusty wave]

@warm delta I got 3 out of 5 done, idk how I did it, what's your strat

[left basin]

the hardest peninse

[fresh reef]

The sad part is that it looks identical to warp battery, a much easier to get penance lol

[strange sage]

not sure how i got the pick n' mix penance when i was a difficulty shy of the required nor was i brain bursting...

[warm delta]

I will never get it throughout regular mission because I think Kinetic Barrage is the compulsory feat and my regular setup is AB

[tall mango]

did they make that one harder?

I swear it was less in the beta

[strange sage]

my favourite psyker feat would have to be Kinetic Flayer

[jovial frigate]

where i will permanently reside

[warm delta]

in fact they made it easier, it was 10sec before lol

[tall mango]

crazy

Still borderline impossible without a premade

same with the kamikaze

[lusty wave]

Anyone wanna group up and do penance

Lmao

[strange sage]

was kamikaze the one where you BB a poxhound mid pounce?

[bleak summit]

Kamikaze you just gotta send it. The monstrosity one is impossible tho w/o group

[lusty wave]

@strange sage kamikaze is killing 3 elites at the same time

While plowing up

[tall mango]

no kamikaze is the one where you gotta kill 3 elites with a single peril explosion

[left basin]

i got kamikaze on my first heresy game before i even read the penance. before it was made easier

[strange sage]

ah... think i may have done that once with a warp blast (the one that drops you afterwards due to going past 100 peril)

[tall mango]

which is really fucking stupid

[left basin]

i naturally assumed that it was emperor

i lost the match in like 2 minutes after that, but i got the dookie raiment at like level 15

think it was the first day of the prelaunch beta too

[jovial frigate]

i got the kamikaze in a pub lobby

[bleak summit]

Me too

[lusty wave]

How tf do you do that

I'm trying to get that

[jovial frigate]

i was just leveling and

[left basin]

u kill urself real hard

[jovial frigate]

2 people went down rushing into a room full of shit

[left basin]

and you get the peninse

[lusty wave]

@jovial frigate lucky mofo

[warm delta]

I got mine when going for the pick n mix, too desperate to get the last elite and end up blowing myself and killed three surrounding rager

[bleak summit]

Just send it into some ragers I just kept my peril at 99% and staffed into the sky

[strange sage]

In my Rimworld game, I've got a Lector-Dogmatis (the preacher of my custom made Cult Mechanicus Ideology) and she's a psycaster (acolyte, my Fabricator-General is my best at Knight grade), whenever she's using the lector dogmatis abilities i like to think she's quoting one of the 543,021 works of scripture she's compiled even when she's psycasting a disorientating psywave

[leaden pier]

do full health ragers die from it in heresy?

i know they dont in damnation

[tribal knoll]

Ah.. my FS with deflector I got when levelling. Can transfer the blessing when that feature gets released, for now I am using this. Good or?

[jovial frigate]

was digging through some of my old gems

[bleak summit]

Double check in meat grinder but I think so. I did it in heresy.

[strange sage]

I think so

[river crest]

they don't

[cyan notch]

yea they 100% dont

[bleak summit]

Even if they don’t it’s close and your teammates are usually shooting at them anyways.

[leaden pier]

might have to burn my eyes a bit with the surge staff to put some extra damage i guess

[warm delta]

you can certainty bb each of the rager when they approaching and staff to sky, a group of 3 ragers isnt too hard to find

[leaden pier]

yea just gotta make sure i dont get downed before i blow up and teamates dont kill em

[warm delta]

when you are in the 'about to blow up' status, if you die you instant blowup lol

[grave bobcat]

Pengo are you trying to do pick a mix?

[strange sage]

if you acquire some "friends" from the Inquisition, they could help

[grave bobcat]

Or kamikaze, sry missed context

[leaden pier]

nah the one where you gotta blow yourself up

i got pick & mix and mallus

[strange sage]

if the inquisition won't help, I can acquire some Combat Servitors for ye

[simple junco]

Oh my god. I was doing some testing and accidentally ran a T5 with Kinetic Barrage and it was the smoothest T5 I've ever done.

[opal hearth]

pretty similar, except 3 at the end instead of 1 haha

[strange sage]

if you're lucky perhaps even an Archeoflagellant

[opal hearth]

wondering if there were better ways to optimise

[simple junco]

Like, I was able to do both of my jobs (CC with purg and long range picking) so easily. Seriously underrated perk.

[jovial frigate]

ngl sometimes i do be running kinetic barrage + cd reduction in t4s instead of coherency warp charges. esp if i dont have a vet

[simple junco]

tbh, kinetic barrage just seems to give more consistent WC stacks

Ran out of em? Pop it and you're all set for the next fight

Plus you're actually able to stun and take down crushers midfight without having to split focus too much

[opal hearth]

are you taking warp battery or flayer with barrage?

[simple junco]

Since this was an accidental pick, I ran it with Battery

[left basin]

worm battery

https://tenor.com/view/worm-national-worm-day-gummy-trolli-meme-gif-22350573

[simple junco]

Plus battery just helps with peril management in general

[jovial frigate]

i always run flayer but thats cus i voidstrike

[strange sage]

same here

[simple junco]

If I just run communion with Flayer, I'll be able to maintain 24% peril resistance at all times while letting my team do the heavy lifting

[strange sage]

it's nice when i'm wailing on a tough SoB then his head pops when KF activates on him

[jovial frigate]

also double brainburst on a elite that is still mid stumble from your ult feels kinda good

rare but it happens

[simple junco]

Does Psykinetic's Aura affect yourself?

[left basin]

yaz

[simple junco]

Yo, so if you pop Kinetic Barrage and just go off, you can do it again?

[jovial frigate]

oh yeah, i've def had fights where i've had constant kinetic barrage for like a good minute because of ult resetting

[left basin]

more or less

[simple junco]

Well then. Running KB to take care of ranged threats and having Purg with Kinetic Flayer for peril resistance upkeep to take care of hordes might fix a lot of problems with running Purg in T5.

[night marten]

flayer is not a good match with purge I don't think

[simple junco]

I would run kinetic overload, but since I'm not running communion or AB it just wouldn't generate charges

[near wyvern]

If you are using purgstus you gotta go with ascendent blaze or you are missing out on a lotta damage.

[jovial frigate]

should i buy it and set myself up to be depressed?

[left basin]

not really no, FS requires specific blessings to be good

[night marten]

if you've already got great curious and more crafting mats than you know what to do with, why not

[night marten]

the implication is he would be buying to gamble on getting deflector

[near wyvern]

I disagree. I use 15% Ult CDR for coherency on elite kills with kinetic flayer and ascendent blaze with my purgatus on Damnation.

Kinetic flayer is basically just there to help generate and upkeep stacks when things are not that heated so that I can have a good ult off whenever I need to use it.

[jovial frigate]

im pretty much at the funny money point of this game with everything except plasteel

[river crest]

get it and wait for crafting updates that will allow you to move deflector onto it

[jovial frigate]

i have like 5 force swords in my bags right now with max deflector lol

[left basin]

huh

[simple junco]

True, I was running 6x AB to take care of shooters and large hordes just in case. However I was maintaining hordes just fine without it.

[covert cosmos]

just killed a poxburster that was getting kind of close. i didn't take damage, but the guy BEHIND ME did

🤔

[simple junco]

After a LOT of testing in the meat grinder, the extra stacks shave off a few seconds, but not against what I needed to kill.

[left basin]

you're a chaosite and need to be purged

[jovial frigate]

for force swords im trying to get a better base stat to replace one of these currently

[left basin]

the first one is fucking insayan

[jovial frigate]

ya

its my baybay

i need to reroll the block into like 25% unarmored though

[near wyvern]

6 stacks take forever to obtain, at least for me 4 stack ults + staff on top will do the trick just fine and with the cdr I can do it in quick succession when the horde spawns with elites.

For ranged, if we don't have a veteran to deal with it I will just LOS them and start working with BB if there is nothing else to do. It's quite slow but it's not my primary role as a purge psyker.

[simple junco]

Not to mention shoehorning in Psykinetic's Aura was very uncomfortable since I ALWAYS wanted to generate WC charges with Communion to maintain 6x stacks

[leaden pier]

doesnt block help with deflector?

[near wyvern]

Should

[simple junco]

4x doesn't kill a horde on T5 tho

[left basin]

i think it does, but kinetic defl already kinda makes it redundant

[near wyvern]

It doesn't need to. It applies 4 stacks on them and then I use puratus when they get close. They melt the moment they step in the staff flames.

[bleak summit]

Psykinetic's aura sounds pretty decent until you realize you give up Psychic Communion IMO

[simple junco]

Right, but on T5 you WANT to set it and forget it lol. In prolonged combat you can easily gain those 6X stacks too.

[jovial frigate]

ye but not worht it with current state of peril block. i've tested a like 45% block efficiency build and it was cool to facetank a mixed horde and lose peril but you can do the same with just the blessing and clearing horde with push block l1 h2 combo

[simple junco]

True, I'm trying to make a Purg build work with 122133 because of that rip

[night marten]

I've been having lots of fun/success with 121122 *and purgatus of course

[cyan notch]

those arent max deflectors

[near wyvern]

Not just that. It's more important to hit the trash breakpoints for heavy and light attacks, so infested and weakpoint damage perks might be necessary depending on your stat rolls.

You want:

• 100 unarmoured lights
• 150 infested lights
• 200 unarmoured heavies
• 300 infested heavies

With that in check you can 2 tap light poxwalker and groaner heads on Damnation or 1 tap heavy the heads on Damnation

[foggy tangle]

worth switching to the blue one?

[jovial frigate]

i actually think 12% deflectors dont exist anymore because im almost positive my purple was a 12% at one point and then when game went live it went 9

[bleak summit]

I'm sure there's a way to work it but you're going to have to use the kinetic barrage to fill the gap on warp charges probably. Might be more a playstyle change. If KF was more consistent then you probably wouldn't have that problem but it just isn't as easy to use as Psychic communion.

[near wyvern]

Not really... I can hold a corridor on my own as long as there are no bulwarks or crushers.

By the time the next wave comes in I am already back with full ult and 4 stacks even in prolonged combat where there is a wave after a wave.

Plus I never need to quell during that prolonged combat even when I am just constantly using my purgatus right click.

[simple junco]

Definitely, running Aura to maintain upkeep on my F to keep stacks, Flayer exists specifically to maintain those stacks for peril resist

[near wyvern]

The only problem is herecy and lower as they lack the enemy numbers to keep up my sustain

[night marten]

I think you should be looking for more utility out of your 25 feat than just the peril resist factor

[simple junco]

They work in tandem, since I'm not running AB I need some way to maintain stacks in combat

[stuck bridge]

this isnt actually completely related to psyker but people should see how nuts this is

[jovial frigate]

oh you know what maybe it was 10 to 9, i think they did tone down deflector cap from like 10/15 to 9/12

[near wyvern]

Many times I ult even with just 2 stacks in T5 because I need to stagger things.

With the 15% ult CDR you can be more flexible with the ult, doesn't always need to be for max damage. Sometimes you gotta use it just for the CC.

[stuck bridge]

gunned down through a ceiling

[jovial frigate]

checking my videos to see if ithats the case or not

[hardy socket]

is it just me or do elites straight up focus psykers

cause they ignored everyone else

[stuck bridge]

[cyan notch]

cuz u have camo vets afking

which makes all the aggro go to you

[near wyvern]

Yup. Same has happened to me. I have also died while I was on that ceiling and there was a gunner where you were now and they shot me through the floor before I realised where they were.

[night marten]

if you're not running AB, and trying to focus on elite kills anyway with aura and barrage, why not use surge instead of purge? would reduce the chances your flayer goes off on a random poxwalker instead of a ranged/elite/special target

[near wyvern]

Those "metal sheets" can be shot through on any map but they prevent BB lock ons.

[simple junco]

Every so often the team gets pincered from both sides due to unfortunate positioning. Being able to press F and trust that everything that side of Tertium is dead is incredibly important if my team is being swarmed without an ogryn.

[stuck bridge]

ive also heard from one other person that they died in that same spot, seems like an issue there

[simple junco]

Because purge easily accomplishes CC on a wide scale, I can reliably BB big bois if I'm needed and I can reliably hold hallways when I'm needed

If I have two jobs, might as well do both

[hardy socket]

honestly should have an ogryn button that just makes an ogryn player enter your lobby

[cyan notch]

get a couple of these guys and youre on your own

[jovial frigate]

i knew it im not crazy

[compact cargo]

Why would you use bb on anything by trappers, snipers, bombers and shotgunners/gunners?

[near wyvern]

You do you. My playstyle works for me in T5 and a friend of mine (veteran) said the 15% cdr is extremely helpful so I'll continue rolling with my setup and spamming ults.

[hardy socket]

just need one info mission to get the funny hat

literal only one that spawns is a condemned with higher hordes

[left basin]

one day sikers will be real sienna stuff

[near wyvern]

This one?

[hardy socket]

yes

wait the mask or the hood

[near wyvern]

Goggles gang gonna get another sibling

The hood is the mask

[hardy socket]

oh

looks good

i'm really close to it

[left basin]

makes sense lightning and fire are bright

[jovial frigate]

i really need to finish pick and mix so i can have everything except the 200 missions on my brain boi done for achievements

[left basin]

white funky fires are probably even more so

[jovial frigate]

mabye i'll do that tmrw

[hardy socket]

i have two penitences left

specifically i need to do an info mission and to "kill someone after throwing them off a ledge"

[near wyvern]

GL. I got mine when a veteran friend of mine threw some nades on a pack of 5 dreg ragers and allowed me to BB them (instead of gunning them down before I could even use the first BB...)

[hardy socket]

ngl that sounds fucking extremely tedious

or extremely easy

[near wyvern]

Penance design so good

[jovial frigate]

i found out like 2 days ago the cliffhanger penance is now 7 instead of 20

[near wyvern]

Penances basically require team effort and only reward the player who did the least to set it up

[jovial frigate]

It gave me my first boomer 'back in my day' moment

[idle bay]

It was totally doable with 20.. slightly tricky though.

[hardy socket]

btw the cliffhanger thing is translated like absoloute dogwater in spanish, does it actually say to "kill 7 people that fell off the edge in two seconds"

[near wyvern]

Oh that's easy. The best mission for it is the ones where you extract batteries from a train.

There is a bridge just before the escape Valkyrie so just wait for the horde to come to that bridge, ult, penance done, run in.

There are some other spots during escapes so just try once if you are on such a map. That's how I did mine. Don't have to hold people hostage for it.

[hardy socket]

or does it say to push 7 people off the edge

[near wyvern]

I think it says kill 7 enemies within 2 seconds by pushing them off a cliff

So if it is a wrong kind of cliff (killzone too far) it will not count I guess (they fall for more than 2 seconds??)

[hardy socket]

uh?

[jaunty atlas]

my peeps. i think i had an illumination. the psyker is played full wound.

[vital bough]

Got that penance by pushing them all into the center hole in the metal forge where it pours 4 spouts of molten metal down

[hardy socket]

shouldn't be too hard

any bridge map should be able to do it

[hardy socket]

does the info map have a bridge?

[jovial frigate]

chasm logistratum + endless horde

[crisp storm]

void staff - how does scaling on charge work? do you kind of just charge a little bit and fire?

[idle bay]

That's the 20 spot 🙂

[jovial frigate]

ye ye

[hardy socket]

max it and pop heads

roman and you goin bowling

[idle bay]

Did it with random team "back in old days"

[hardy socket]

even easier

get a sword and push zombies off

[idle bay]

I used life bait 🙂 And no Force sword

[jaunty atlas]

*the damage factor is important, but the penetration is even more. chargind completely is worth when you have a lot of enemies or time. min charge on mono dps or precise fire, mid charge the rest of the time. you'll take the habit, try to avoid light fire completely if you can, as it does not explode and has a lot less radius

[grave bobcat]

The fact the punches can crit is so amusing to me

[jovial frigate]

thats the best part of dagger

[crisp storm]

does that logic change with purge staff? for clearing?

[jaunty atlas]

no purge staff is another thing 🙂 you charge fuel if you will

and light attack is quite nice

[crisp storm]

gotcha

[grave bobcat]

Wish the smackdown blessing was actually decent for it 😦

Cause its fun to use

[simple junco]

Yup, 122133 is amazing to use with a crit purg staff in T5. This is my life now lol.

[jaunty atlas]

if you can get a staff with flurry on it ... it doesn't look like much but ... it's absolutely fantastic. not only for the number but the power fantasy

and the more i play the more i think we should play full wound and learn when to take a nosedive safely

you basically have 2 more bars for the cost of 30 toughness or 60 hp

[jovial frigate]

i like thinking outside the box but building to rely on someone else in a co op game would make me end my life faster than i would be revived

also half the reason i dislike surge

[jaunty atlas]

paired with deflector you can pretty much guarantee your explosion and not a mere death. i don't know, i'll try.

[simple junco]

It's moreso built to benefit pretty much everyone to be more effective at the cost of a very situational ability for a very situational weapon.

Hell, with this build I just did a T5 with one ogryn and myself and it ended up just fine.

[wanton briar]

Does brain burst dmg scale with difficulty?

[jovial frigate]

[simple junco]

Nope

[jaunty atlas]

nope

[left basin]

https://tenor.com/view/sobbing-gif-sobbing-uoooh-gif-24612778

[jaunty atlas]

but it's still the dmg of an ogryn box.

[wanton briar]

Ahh nice

[jaunty atlas]

even if you do not pop it, it's there

[jovial frigate]

at least an ogryn box is funny

[solar loom]

What do you guys think of that sword?

[grave bobcat]

Warp* Flurry doesn't work 🙂

[wanton briar]

I haven't unlocked all the enemies in meat grinder so I can't see the dmg

[jaunty atlas]

? oO it works pretty well i don't get it

[simple junco]

Ahh. When you get to T4-5 it gets less effective unless you spec into it

[grave bobcat]

Show me 🙂

[simple junco]

For example, it takes 3 BBs to kill a crusher (the big armored ogryn) on T5

[grave bobcat]

Cause I want that shit to work too lol

[jovial frigate]

they could have given us so many things but they gave us a single target cast time skill in a horde survival game

[jaunty atlas]

3s i'll go psyka and try to make a good sequence ><

[jovial frigate]

[left basin]

i'm gonna psyke

i'm warpsing???

[idle bay]

Siblings, does anyone getting annoyed that new Steel Legion Veteran uniform makes you mistake them for dregs ?

That greenish color...

[simple junco]

yes

[jovial frigate]

i was ||playing my alt|| earlier and some pubby was screaming at me for the same thing

[simple junco]

Not necessarily annoyed, but it does take a second to register sometimes

[plain mesa]

just tell them to turn on player outlines if it bothers them so much

[left basin]

puboids are to be ignored at all costs

if impossible revert to calling them an "X abuser" depending on their setup

bonus points if they're running a non-optimal build

[jaunty atlas]

what's a puboid ?

[left basin]

nurgle spawn

they're made of pubes

and forced to play a game without a central nervous system

[jaunty atlas]

hard

[grave bobcat]

It's so close to 2 shotting bulwarks with the 4 charges and lacerations trait 😦

Literally puts it on like 5 hp lol

[bleak summit]

Lacerations doesn't apply to BB does it?

[grave bobcat]

Yeah... it shouldn't

[jaunty atlas]

wait. you may actually be right. it's just me accelerating my cast

[grave bobcat]

But here we are

[left basin]

... it does???

[grave bobcat]

sec

clipping

[jaunty atlas]

i tried my best but it's hard to show, honestly in fight i can feel it. or maybe not and it's all in my head. which would be awesome

[bleak summit]

Interesting. Not useful probably, but interesting.

[left basin]

what diff?

[grave bobcat]

But it doesn't change any breakpoints

[bleak summit]

God lacerations needs a buff

[grave bobcat]

So pointless

[left basin]

maybe with 6?

[grave bobcat]

Since you can 2 shot with 6 warps anyway

don't need lacerations

[jaunty atlas]

but.. lacerations is for your teammates rights ?

it's an enemy debuff ?

[left basin]

apparently for you too

[jaunty atlas]

if you don't use warp

so ... nothing really damaging

[left basin]

good for a kbarrage maybe?

[bleak summit]

It applies to all damage so even your own. In theory against a boss I think you'd go with a Lasgun and lacerations for optimal dps.

[left basin]

for like, boss?

[grave bobcat]

True, but the targets you'd be BB'ing to benefit from this are either. Bosses, in which case they're not common enough to be worth focusing a build around. Or the targets you're BB'ing are out of reach

[simple junco]

if Lacerations worked, that would be huge

[grave bobcat]

Does put Bulwarks on less than 100hp at least 🤷

[hardy socket]

either just got the hat or i need to push 2 guys

[simple junco]

Eh... Then you might as well do the third BB

[jaunty atlas]

i don't know. i used it for all my lvling and i was under the impression it helped. instead of needing 3 bb on an ogryn you need 1+ the inevitable huge vet burst on it afterwards

[grave bobcat]

throw something at them

Sneeze on his shield

[night marten]

@simple junco aura, KO, and barrage combo really well together

[grave bobcat]

He'll die

lmao

[simple junco]

Something box-shaped perhaps

[grave bobcat]

A blade of grass could kill the Bulwark its so low hp

Wait

[simple junco]

Finally, the lasgun vets have something to shoot at

[grave bobcat]

HOld up

[simple junco]

Right?? It keeps the momentum up when you really need it

[grave bobcat]

I'm a genius

[simple junco]

Breakthrough incoming?

[night marten]

I don't think flayer synergizes nearly as well with those other two compared to KO, it's tailor-made for what they do best, benefitting from killing elites fast

[simple junco]

Flayer is moreso for the peril resistance, as I'm running Purg

[grave bobcat]

We did it

[bleak summit]

Optimal

[simple junco]

Honestly, strats

Force knife eat your heart out

[grave bobcat]

Brain burst him and then the left hook

Unstoppable

[night marten]

not sure why discord didn't embed the video but KO makes it truly infinite if you only pop elites (and they actually die )

[grave bobcat]

Above 100mb 🙂

[night marten]

going to link a gif instead

[simple junco]

Ohhhh I'm intrested

[night marten]

only takes two procs of KO to kill a non-bulwark elite, so you can just keep going

and KO prioritizes elites over a huge range

[grave bobcat]

It's funny that you're ALMOST doing the only time Warp Flurry actually works lol

[hardy socket]

what's the easiest way to get the cliffhanger penitence

[grave bobcat]

I can't show it either cause I don't have a Void staff with Flurry -.-

[jaunty atlas]

bah. secretly i'm training trauma staff. but shh.

[hardy socket]

cause i got 3 and then 4 thinking i had finished 3 penitence achievements in one run

[grave bobcat]

@jaunty atlas Hold right click and fire off left click 5 times instantly. Then hold the 6th.

Then it works lmao

And its very obvious its working too lol

[jaunty atlas]

huuh

[hardy socket]

wait so i just kill the zombies that fall of an edge?

[leaden pier]

what is happening there

[hardy socket]

i've been doing that when they spawn a lot

[jaunty atlas]

i would swear it happens a lot in fight

[grave bobcat]

Something like that

[jaunty atlas]

but honestly ..

[bleak summit]

I got mine by accident setting off an exploding barrel. Not even sure how it worked tbh.

[grave bobcat]

Yeah I've pretty much gotten all mine like that in-game lol

Aside from monstrum

Which isn't exactly a normal gameplay kinda thing

[bleak summit]

I still don't have monstrum, I've done every other penance with pubs.

[hardy socket]

i'mma just get in a bunch of sedition levels and camp edges

or just kill enemies as they spawn

[simple junco]

So the point is to kill elites, have stacks go to elites, and just chain kills that way? I like it

[night marten]

yes

once you're at max stacks, proccing two charges will kill a nearby rager, and 3 kills a bulwark

[hardy socket]

what counts as a ledge btw

[grave bobcat]

The only dagger I've seen today in shop and its griefed by fuckin Precog blessing

[night marten]

(though this is why I use AB with it, because blasting a horde can pop like 5 charges and instantly melt shit)

[hardy socket]

cause if i just press f and then kill the zombies that fall

[jaunty atlas]

there is a very easy spot, i did it by accident too. it's chasm terminus i think ? right before the extraction, you have to activate 3 points then you open 2 bridges and you keep a point in the middle of a square room. you have hordes that try to enter and simply bodyblock them and push once.

[night marten]

gif is still uploading

[grave bobcat]

Feel like you'd get it eventually just by playing anyways

[jaunty atlas]

yep. unlike monstrum and pick and mix. or you're reaaally in a extra crap teamm

[grave bobcat]

lmfao

[jaunty atlas]

i'll just wait solo

kill the bots and go

[grave bobcat]

I got pick and mix done normally too

[night marten]

@simple junco that said, barrage works really well too with KO because you never lose stacks with F. so you could get the best of both worlds (horde clear including elite kills with KO and purgatus, along with back-line quick sniping)

[jaunty atlas]

man your mates were sleeping ? oO

[grave bobcat]

Like dawg there is stupid tons of enemies in t5

[jaunty atlas]

even like that !

or you play with 6C maybe

[grave bobcat]

6C?

[jaunty atlas]

the speed thing on bb after F

[grave bobcat]

Kinetic Barrage

[jaunty atlas]

yes

[grave bobcat]

Also yes I do lol

The other 2 are meh

[bleak summit]

KB is goated

[jaunty atlas]

6B is absurdly good

without charges even

the control, the enemy detect, the sheer joy of burning the map

[grave bobcat]

Never seen someone refer to them like that but I like it lol

But nah 6B pointless without charges

And even then

[bleak summit]

AB can definitely be good too, I just feel like I get more value with KB.

They have different goals.

[jaunty atlas]

really ? tier 6 ABC ? i though it was pretty standard

[grave bobcat]

🤷

New to me

[jaunty atlas]

maybe it's an ogryn thing. we smert

[night marten]

feats are referred to by their level and either 1, 2, or 3 around these parts

[jaunty atlas]

that a lot of numbers

[bleak summit]

I like the 123456ABC thing, but I've seen most people refer to feats as abbreviated names

[night marten]

seems redundant

why not just use something like abcbca?

[compact cargo]

People just say feats in order then number...just because it's what we did in vt2...No need for newcomers to try and ruin naming

[jaunty atlas]

bleh too old to learn all the names for all the classes i guess

[jaunty atlas]

how would you know the column it's in ?

[night marten]

they go in order right?

unless you're referring to one individually, in which case sure put a number in front of it

[jaunty atlas]

no, when you speak of a single spell i mean

for a full build you just tell letters yes 🙂

[compact cargo]

numbers are easier

and help people from vt2 transition

[jaunty atlas]

the only name i learned is bio optics. USE BIO OPTICS ON COOLDOWN MUFU VET

[compact cargo]

bio or kick*

[devout sluice]

Why the bundles for psyker are 2nd time in a row a walking toilet head

[night marten]

but if I'm talking about individual feats, I'm going to use their name (e.g. aura, barrage, communion, etc) because it's easier for people to understand what you're talking about

[compact cargo]

Devs hate psykers

[devout sluice]

[jaunty atlas]

i'm suprised by the number of vt2 vets there is here. battle is usually its own thing

[night marten]

infinite BB using aura, KO, and barrage https://gfycat.com/naughtyedibleblackbuck

though I prefer communion, KO, and AB for my setup

interesting idea if you're mostly focusing on backline BB utility

[jaunty atlas]

to be fair, wh40k psykers usually look like chic hobos.

but i have a theory : sell the crappy stuff first when you absolutely lack of cosmetics

like the vet, after a scion tempest, vostroyan or krieg, you will sell absolutely nothing

camo shit ? who would use that

[devout sluice]

I hate how zealot(although my 2nd fav class) has more mechanicus-like drip avilable than psyker already

[compact cargo]

vets just got steel legion bs

[jaunty atlas]

yeah but still, it's a bit hobotastic

not the real thing

bullgryns received the same treatment, the tank chains are too small and again that camo that shouldn't be in this game

[grave bobcat]

😢 there is a high int t5 map on

But nobody queues for it

[jaunty atlas]

maybe it's time to do the penances !

[robust meteor]

ive tried that in practice and it never seemed to pay off

it was decent

[grave bobcat]

It'd be possible at the very beginning lol I think I just killed maybe 6-8 gunners?

[night marten]

yea the conditions have to really good to get exceptional utility out of it imo

[grave bobcat]

I run this 😛

[night marten]

think it's easier just to double down with communion/KO/AB when running purge

or 6-stack, depending on whether you care about horde wiping or elite killing more

[robust meteor]

i'm running +12 ability reduction rn

[night marten]

spicy

barrage and aura?

[robust meteor]

yea

makes taking out ranged not so awful

[grave bobcat]

I should consc my curios... lol

[clear heath]

I haven't actually tried the whole demonhost tanking thing with psyker. Does it take any block cost reduction to do it or can you actually just do it with no bonuses?

[simple junco]

You can do it without bonuses, but it requires dodging

[compact cargo]

You require a decent dodge distance, u can do it on 70% mobility axe and cover, peril block helps roo

[clear heath]

What does it take to do it without dodging at all?

[grave bobcat]

Good question tbh lol

I've never tried not dodging

[simple junco]

I'd assume stack guard efficiency

[clear heath]

I'm just curious what kind of build this dude used
https://youtu.be/vAUJnVK9F78

[grave bobcat]

Oh just peril blocking with a DS

[clear heath]

I'm also wondering how effective force sword would be at it if i just stacked a bunch of block cost reduction on curios/weapon.
I know it wouldn't be as strong cause slower passive quell, but i could settle for a bit worse if i get to keep deflector

[grave bobcat]

When helping others do the penance I used FS, but dodged 😛

[vestal finch]

You can get into a rhythm to dodge daemonhost attacks

[clear heath]

I'm not specifically trying to survive demonhost anyways. It's just an interesting benchmark to me

[grave bobcat]

"Rhythms my way around a box"

[clear heath]

If i can meme on demonhost without moving and still block bullets, it would be pretty funny

[grave bobcat]

idk try it lol

[clear heath]

Well i'll need to get the block cost reduction curios first

[vestal finch]

You can't facetank a daemonhost if you're not an ogryn

You still have to dodge

[wise pecan]

...huh, seems like the surge staff has bugged damage, too. the stat sheet on mine lists it as doing a hair under 500 damage vs flak and carapace, but in execution it only deals roughly 250

[clear heath]

This guy started blocking everything halfway into the video @vestal finch

[grave bobcat]

I feel like you could with enough focus on blocking

[cyan notch]

i mean u can see in the video he goes up to 80+%

[grave bobcat]

I give up trying to do high int t5 😦 nobody goddamn queueing

[night marten]

you know I thought surge damage was weird today, though I only played with it for a couple minutes

[cyan notch]

pretty obvious you cant do it forever

[grave bobcat]

Then it'd just work into his stam

[simple junco]

I've been doing em nonstop, albeit with usually 1 missing member

[clear heath]

We also don't know if his block reduction is completely maxed

[grave bobcat]

😠

What region you in

[hardy socket]

anyone down for doing the penance with me

[grave bobcat]

Or inv me, I can be the missing member lmao

[simple junco]

NA

[hardy socket]

cause i can't really do it

[grave bobcat]

I'll do high int even on ping!

[wise pecan]

which one?

[vestal finch]

Damn, one stamina bar makes all the difference...

[hardy socket]

the cliffhanger

no mic cause 4:40 am

[grave bobcat]

I feel like that penance is a solo job

[wise pecan]

i'd suggest just taking the old espionage mission whenever possible, and then asking the pubs

[hardy socket]

no idea how to do it really

[grave bobcat]

Ngl, the current high in t5 is on the best map to do it on

lmfao

[cyan notch]

mine works fine are you full charging?

[night marten]

I'm wondering whether theres a matchmaking problem

[grave bobcat]

It's just regions 😦

[night marten]

I'm waiting at the beginning of a heresy, and theres no way more people aren't queueing in

[wise pecan]

...now that's interesting. when i fully charge, the damage still isn't the same as the listed amount - it's more

[night marten]

ah maybe that's it.....

[simple junco]

Which regions are there?

[grave bobcat]

8am EU rn, and Damnation isn't queued for that much either

[cyan notch]

are u getting crits?

[grave bobcat]

No clue

[simple junco]

Also woo

[cyan notch]

it should around the same

[wise pecan]

even off crits, the listed damage is like 494, but the damage i'm doing is like, 530

[grave bobcat]

Crit Bonus

[wise pecan]

and i don't have any flak damage bonuses

[clear heath]

Do you have feats that increase damage, like the force damage feat?

Any warp charges?

[grave bobcat]

Crit Bonus stat on the staff isn't calculated into that dmg sheet

[simple junco]

Psykinetic's Wrath should apply to BB

rip

[wise pecan]

i might have accidentally picked up a warp charge and not ticed, damage seems to have bumped back down to 500

...nope, 535 and def no warp charge. i wonder if it just has a range of randomness (maybe based on how/if it chains?)

[clear heath]

Any blessings?

[grave bobcat]

Well done 🙂

[clear heath]

wait actually i don't think any blessing would affect damage anyways

Perks?

[simple junco]

All that's left is... Cliffhanger

[grave bobcat]

That t5 high int map is really good for getting it

If its still up

The very first part is literally a giant bridge

[idle bay]

After doing the hardest ones... cliffhanger is like a walk in the park

[river sand]

cliffhanger with only 7 is super easy

[simple junco]

Saving the hardest for last, obviously

[idle bay]

I'm not even dare to try Pick'n'Mix....

[river sand]

for me hardest was going out with a bang

[simple junco]

Just run KB, it comes naturally lol

[compact cargo]

Kb, Karker ball

[wise pecan]

only perk is carapace damage, only blessing is crit chance. the enemy i'm testing on is pure flak. isolated or not, at full charge it's dealing ~535 damage, instead of expected 494. no damage-boosting feats. maybe it's some hidden effect from not-visible power stat?

[idle bay]

I'm will not say that it was that hard.... but really nervewrecking. Helped 9 other psykers to get it, and did it myself.

[river sand]

did it in a random damnation match with bots

pick n mix is actually pretty easy, all you need is the lvl 30 talent and the right spot

[wise pecan]

still haven't gotten out with a bang or malleus. i cant organize a team for malleus (and nobody plays slabgryn anymore), and randoms just cannot cooperate well enough for out with a bang

[clear heath]

I went out with a bang by accident

by just being bad at the game

[river sand]

the mission where you gotta secure that train with the AA- weapons. right before the jump to the last event there are lurking like 10 elites in sight, just hope they're not all ogryns

[idle bay]

Is there any comprehensive guide how to even approach pick'n'mix? I know couple of places where it can be pulled off... but still to brain damaged from going out with bang to try it

[river sand]

fire 1-2 bbs ult -> bb bb bb bb

and just take gunners / shotgunners etc stuff that needs only 1 bb

[idle bay]

The sequence is intuitive - i mean guide for a good spots to do it

[river sand]

as stated above

[idle bay]

I know at least 2 with chance to get 5 elites...

That spot is known to me - other Chasm Station assasination

right at the start at damation or heresy'

[simple junco]

If you run T5 there's a slew of areas that have like, 7-8 gunners

[idle bay]

3rd -ish - Espionage in lower hive at the start as well

[simple junco]

Run KB until you find an area like that, pop 2 off, ult, then go ham

[idle bay]

if only BB did not get randomly stuck to simple trash mob instead of elites 🙂

[simple junco]

You gotta aim it

I had that problem at the start, but if you aim just over the head of who you're targetting you'll get it 99% of the time

Also highlighting the target seems to help

[idle bay]

@simple junco thank you!

[bright river]

and sometimes jumping lets you get a clutch BB over trash

[white cedar]

some idiot joint the t4 and alert demonhost and leave the game. great 😄

[bright river]

a psyker's moment to shine, as long as you're running kinetic deflection

Idk if it works with a force sword, but with any non-force weapon and kinetic deflection you can tank a demonhost indefinitely

[true lake]

Does a daemonhost count as a monstrosity for the brain burst penance?

[cyan notch]

yes

[bright river]

I think it is a monstrosity

[true lake]

Cool just need to recruit a dude who can tank it for me while I do that then

[bright river]

so if you have a big friend with a slab shield, or a kinetic deflector

[jaunty atlas]

i did monstrum with 3 bots, but it did not counted

they do enough dmg to fail it ? oo

[true lake]

Bots probably did a bunch of damage

[jaunty atlas]

well i sure did not see them doing it

crap

[ornate hamlet]

In moste occasions witch will summon a horde, having a full group to fend them off while fighting the witch and some random elites is prefered

[wise pecan]

anyone know any tips to pick up out with a bang?

it seems like the warp explosion only does roughly 630 damage, which is... really not enough

[vestal finch]

Pick 'n Mix is a lot easier if you have a vet friend (or an incompetent vet) to highlight all the enemies for you to kill

[hardy socket]

2 hours later

the fit has been acquired

[clear heath]

Ok so i think he had 20% block cost reduction to do this. When i tried it without any, i took 16% from the same attacks that did 13% to him

So i guess you need roughly 20% to basically afk a demonhost. I eventually got fucked when i tried standing still without any block cost reduction

neat

[hardy socket]

does anyone else also see the lil white warning signs that come up when they close their eyes sometimes or just me

[grave bobcat]

I like that you can basically pick and choose what perk you want if you refine it enough lol

[grave bobcat]

Has anyone ever seen combat ability regen above 3%?

Since it technically goes to 4% lol

But "can" it

[vestal finch]

You have terrible fashion sense, sibling

[grave bobcat]

Since I refined this thing like 50+ times I assume it cannot go above 3

[night marten]

item level on that curio might be capped

[grave bobcat]

Yeah that'd make sense

[night marten]

not 100% sure that's how it works, but I think each item has a max stat allocation associated with it (why you only see trash on the way up to 30)

[sterile sable]

can i tell what mission type i am missing from penances?

[grave bobcat]

Moment I check shop lol

Ok so It can go up to 4

[night marten]

no directly, you can kind of guess by using the icons below missions you've completed, but it doesn't correlate with types specifically

[grave bobcat]

Max health 😦

[night marten]

yea.. think 21 is max base

just have lvl4.txt @sterile sable

[grave bobcat]

I've been neglecting my curios entirely tbh anyway

[night marten]

their benefits are pretty huge put together

[grave bobcat]

Once I got gunner res + toughness on all 3 I just kinda, ignored them lol

Yeah I was trying to decide waht other benefits I wanted

But never got around to it

[cyan notch]

gunners are pretty ignorable imo

its the shotguns and snipers that get me

[placid pike]

Neat. Is it a unique line if the psyker gets a kill streak on a gun and the party comments "who gave this psyker a weapon"? Or does the voiceline also occur on stave related kill streaks

[night marten]

there's been some good curio discussion, %max health seems to be really popular

[grave bobcat]

The gun res is just cause they're the only thing that ever really gets to my hp to chip at it

[tardy vessel]

someone get the going out with a bang achivement?

[grave bobcat]

Snipers never do

Bombers sometimes get me in a corner though so I might get that

[hardy socket]

closest i could get to this

[grave bobcat]

Stamina regen could be good oto

[night marten]

that's what I run

[tardy flower]

Needs more + ordo dockets and + xp gain

[hardy lily]

Does bomber resistance work on pox Bursters or do you just like bomber resist

[grave bobcat]

Pox and BOmer

are seperate

I think

[tardy flower]

Bomber grenades

[ornate hamlet]

Full drip for Psyker

[cyan notch]

whats a good perk to roll on void?

[night marten]

I like bomber resist, honestly think they're the most dangerous special, but I would mind swapping both of those to a different stat

[hardy lily]

Why would you purposefully rol bomber resist then?

[pure peak]

Right or left

[ornate hamlet]

Supress on close range kill and quell on weakspot hit is really good @cyan notch

[hardy lily]

Right I guess

[pure peak]

hmm

feels skinny pants

maybe its the color

lol

[cyan notch]

no i mean perks

[ornate hamlet]

@pure peak rigt

[pure peak]

okay dokey ty for votes peeps

so keep the one with the camo pants

instead of the red pants

[hollow flame]

right

[pure peak]

[ornate hamlet]

yepp

[pure peak]

GIMME MORE CLOTHINGS in shop u devs. I want to be able to have wings and more pant choices.

[rapid glen]

I would rather have a better time with penances, to be honest

[hardy lily]

Is pox burster bleed through damage or set corruption? Like if you have corruption resist does that lower the corruption bleedthrough

[rapid glen]

I don't think anyone knows honestly lol

Pain...any advice guys?

[hardy lily]

Trying to get malleus in pubs would take an act of god

[night marten]

na, that's how I got mine and helped someone else get theirs

all it takes is queueing with 3 people who dont mind being patient for a little bit, they don't even have to do much

just gotta ask every pug group

[rapid glen]

I think with a group that is willing Malleous isn't so bad...pick n mix though...I'm actually going nuts

[night marten]

would just start mission asap with bots and try to get it on the first elite pack. if it's ogryns, or you're unsuccessful, just start over

soften enemies with purge or surge

same with going out with a bang tbh

[hardy lily]

The current brain burst issue is probably going to make that hard

Doable, but tight window

[night marten]

just have to start with a normal BB before ulting with barrage and getting the last 4, won't be an issue with the buggy 100%+ delay

[pure peak]

i dont even touch brain burst

[rapid glen]

If I could solo queue on heresy difficulty it would be easier...

[compact cargo]

Most pubbers die fast so just accidentally trigger the barrels around them

the bridge in the torrent has a perfect boss and barrel for this

[hardy lily]

Easy way to kill pubs is to highlight the wrong direction for Daemonhost, 2 down

[jaunty atlas]

i asked a group to do it. they all accepted and stopped hitting. the ogryn fullblocked. except a vet you decided to shoot because it took more than 10s a claimed i should do it in another difficulty. it was in heresy

[compact cargo]

classic cod reject

[hardy lily]

TBF doing annoying penances in pubs is kinda lame

[jaunty atlas]

really ? 30s of your life in a cooperative game is too much ?

i mean ... there's plenty of other things to shoot

[hardy lily]

Everyone asks to do penances. The Zealot needs to Speedrun, gets everyone wiped. The Ogryn needs to charge 5 Ogryn, gets everyone wiped

[jaunty atlas]

really.

[rapid glen]

Maybe the issue is with the penances lol

[hardy lily]

If you want cosmetics get a group from discord, if you're shameless enough to burden pubs then you should have enough social skills to use discord for a lobby

[jaunty atlas]

k

[rapid glen]

Or...Fatshark gib solo match

[jaunty atlas]

another healthy individual in the fray.

[jaunty atlas]

one day

[cyan notch]

pretty sure theyre tuning the minigame sections and the tentacle sections

pretty much impossible to do solo

[rapid glen]

I just want to not bother other people while trying to get the head pops man...

[idle bay]

I dream of the days of solo matches with Bot represented by your other Rejects, that you leveled-up and farmed gear for 🙂

[hardy lily]

Leave mission before game start if a veteran shows up, probably will raise your odds

[idle bay]

Like in VT2

[jaunty atlas]

wow that would be awesome. you had that in vt2 ? oO

[tardy vessel]

with solo u can do kill 3 elites with perils of warp

cant

[jaunty atlas]

take 6C, reset in the middle of your sequence and target only one pop elites

[tardy vessel]

on a hi lvls all elites die too fast)

in heresy all elites too fat

[idle bay]

Unless it's Mandella's effect memory - it was in VT2. I clearly remember playing with bots that used your other characters.

[pale basalt]

perks- reroll unarmored? not sure because its nice vs trash.

[jaunty atlas]

i should play more or that, sadly i can't stand warhmmaer battle

[jaunty atlas]

idk if you need more dps on unarmoured

[pale basalt]

i spose thats what my staff is for

[jaunty atlas]

unyielding would be more useful i think

[pale basalt]

yeah your probably right

[tardy vessel]

someone want to do going out with a bang?

achivement

[tawny maple]

I would take % vs maniacs. Being able to oneshot ragers with a heavy special is neat

[jaunty atlas]

^^

[idle bay]

Silly question: Did Fatshark fixed nausea-inducing VFX for Surge staff?
Silly - because i do not expect to fix such critical thing that fast. And asking because i'm really did not notice VFX the difference while in combat.

[jaunty atlas]

it's not, sadly

[grave bobcat]

So figuring it out

And after refining maybe 100+ more times

I got the 4% lmfao

It's just really low chance based on the level of the curio I guess?

But not impossible and infinite refines anyway

[ornate hamlet]

does the combat blade have a niche over the mk 5 dueling sword? looking at stats atm and seems like dueling sword is better in every way

[grave bobcat]

I don't know if better quality Curios have higher odds of the max perks though 🤷

[grave bobcat]

Knife does a lot more dps

And I prefer the cleave on it

[elfin crystal]

knife goes zoomies

[grave bobcat]

Eh so does the DS ttbh

[elfin crystal]

plus you can have bleed on it which is just very dumb

[grave bobcat]

I think they both have the same sprint speed base

Bleed is useless on Psyker

Lets not do this again

lmfao

[elfin crystal]

euh nah it's not

[idle bay]

Question: Does anyone of you remember hearing any noises or screams that rager makes? Besides some quiet grunting.

[grave bobcat]

Why is it not

[cyan notch]

nah ur just unlucky first time i rerolled my transcendant fs it took me like 30mins straight rerolling to get max block efficiency

[grave bobcat]

FINALLY

Jesus cfuck

lol

Automod let me celebrate pls I have been clicking for this for at least 10 minutes

[elfin crystal]

if you are using the combat knife, it helps a lot to kill stuff in general. or just killing armored stuff with it

[grave bobcat]

Because I clicked past it the first time

It does like 24 hp/s.

It's damage is literally invalid

[elfin crystal]

i've seen it being fairly useful on heresy +

[grave bobcat]

I play t5 exclusively

[elfin crystal]

well similar then

[grave bobcat]

And rn I'm doing melee only Psyker because I wanted to so balista something

Trust me when I say bleed is pointless unless you have that other weakspot blessing

But there are other more useful blessings than those 2

[cyan notch]

i dont even have a good knife

[grave bobcat]

Same

I'm fucking PRAYING

[elfin crystal]

that might be why. still i stil think in general combat knife is just very good on psyker

[grave bobcat]

I want one with Shred on it

Oh the knife in general is fucking awesome I love it

But bleed is pointless

the bulwark gets 3-4 shotted before a bleed stack can even do 100 damage

I'd rather have rend or something

[elfin crystal]

you play with a premade?

[grave bobcat]

I WANT shred

I wish

Instead I wait for randoms to join my dead damnation lobbies -.-

[elfin crystal]

i wish my teammates would kill things that fast. best i get is vets that never use their ults

[grave bobcat]

I'm just entirely built around killing specials/elites

idc about horde they can be cleared with any melee

Knife just happens to be also really good at that too lmao

Soon a good knife will grace my hands

Not 1 limp dick stat to weigh it down

[elfin crystal]

that's fair. i just went the hand holding path with surge so my parties wipe less often

[grave bobcat]

Did that at first but got bored

[elfin crystal]

fair again

[grave bobcat]

Melee only psyker is a lot more fun lol

Try it

[sonic moon]

🤝 I get vets that ult nothing after the main fights already over

[elfin crystal]

will do

oof

ngl tho sometimes you get a vet that slaps and it's like ''omg''

[grave bobcat]

Can't remember the last good Vet I had

They always just run power sword

[sonic moon]

I've only seen such a miracle twice in my damnation runs but its truly magnificent

[elfin crystal]

😔

[jaunty atlas]

so ... trauma staff in heresy .. you're a crippled void/surge staff. i don't understand the role they try to fit this in

[weak herald]

[jaunty atlas]

but the full wound curio it's a big yes

[grave bobcat]

Riposte

[weak herald]

One day we'll be able to change this

[grave bobcat]

True

So annoying that blessing griefs such good rolls too

[weak herald]

I'm tempted to buy it

I'm sooooo tempted

[grave bobcat]

I mean it's pretty damn good

[jaunty atlas]

my first emperorgift at 30, after 43 missions !

[grave bobcat]

But Riposte griefs it

I hate DS though so I wouldn't get it but if you don't have anything comparable 🤷

[ocean cipher]

i rember hearing about a bug that stopped psyker from quelling after a brain burst at high peril, is that still happening?

[weak herald]

I love it so I don't mind !

[grave bobcat]

Yup

[jaunty atlas]

yep

[drowsy fog]

So I tried zealot... I tried ogryn... they're both cool but like... I enjoy psyker

[weak herald]

But yeah, i want uncanny strike on it

[ocean cipher]

wierd, i tested with the psykanium and was able to instantly quell after hitting 100

[grave bobcat]

Get to 100% twice

[ocean cipher]

thats so specific

[grave bobcat]

It happens A LOT

lol

[covert cosmos]

it's not just about having a good vet

they're gonna be stuck with their melee out a lot if they're constantly surrounded by enemies

[trail shell]

still learning psyker, can someone explain why i would want my peril to be increased? surely id want it as low as possible to brain pop more?

[hardy socket]

if you have a good vet you have a good chance of winning

if you have a good ogryn you win

[ocean cipher]

i mean thats a really oddly specific bug

i imagine it comes upnoften but it's a really wierd trigger

[grave bobcat]

Can we just swap the finesse and mobility I beg

[hardy socket]

i think the best ogryns and best vets carry launchers

cause they just clean up shit hard

[cyan notch]

vet gl

[weak herald]

Oh lord this reroll

[covert cosmos]

i think ive had more success with zealot and psyker than ogryn

[grave bobcat]

Hmm what would I roll for on that

[covert cosmos]

i dont think vet has a gl.. but the ogryn gl is great

vet just has a grenade

[weak herald]

Vet doesn't have a gl yeah

[grave bobcat]

Prob crit chance I guess

[weak herald]

Oh ngl, i'm fine with melee weak spot

This weapon is a headshot machine

[grave bobcat]

Yeah nvm it's crit multiplier is actually doodoo anyway

Weakspot better

[shut thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/byuntear-sad-sad-cat-cat-meme-gif-25617057

[bleak tulip]

are you really expecting anything

its one week to christmas and there was a patch last week

[shut thorn]

"we're going to get it out asap"

4 days ago

lol

[left mirage]

classic fatshark game

thank fuck they put it on game pass

i can enjoy the parts that are good without spending 40usd

and just buy the game once its on a deep steam sale in like a year

[olive ember]

isn't gamepass crossplay non existant?

[left mirage]

ye, all my friends have it on gamepass tho so no worries on that end

[olive ember]

last I heard people were saying they couldn't find any lobbies past malice if they weren't on during peak hours rip

ah all good all good

[ornate hamlet]

If anyone needs help, questions w/e feel free to leave me a message

[urban pebble]

Tell me how to do the warp explosion challenge without growing to hate the game.

[tardy vessel]

me too

or we can help each other

just need to take ogryn and push all elites to a point)

in solo it is unreal to do

[urban pebble]

Thats my impression too. Hence why I've been sitting in the LFG channel for 20 minutes, alone.

[tardy vessel]

we can play together

[grave bobcat]

F

[tardy vessel]

that is must be easy with group

[idle bay]

1. You don't need ogryn at all for that Penance
2. Gunners and shotgunners works best for this pennance. Since you easy bully and push them into nice pile
3. If you try it with Ragers - You need to zap them 2 times with Surge staff to make them killable with warp explosion. And you need non-force-sword psyker with Kinetic block to infinitey tank them
4. IF you'll try it on Maulers - they need 3 zzaps with Surge staff to make them killable with explosion. And a lot of kiting and luck involved.
5. Chasm Station (assassinatoion) and Espionage (in slums) are best for it. They have crazy high chance to get elite packs right at the start. Smelter repair (where you complain about the air at start) - can work too, especially room right before the first cycling gateway (where you need to assemble team before going further).
   P.S. did it myself and help other psykers to get it
   P.P.S. currently in need of rest after crazy nightshift... so no i will not join 😦

[full leaf]

yea i only run heresy or damn and if i play early mornings i never get a full team

[jaunty atlas]

having to works against your teammates is really the worst feeling

[ornate hamlet]

All u need to do is run in everytime u see a bunch elites close your eyes and pray. You will get it on 10th try

Spam your lightning staff until u blow up to dmg and cc them.

Easiest way to get it is to ask some ppl to push some elites together, blow up on the horded sheep.

Hardest part is friends...

[static epoch]

thats great

[radiant raven]

You don't need dmg resistance if you don't get hit!

[tranquil fiber]

stacking HP is the way forward especially vs grims or vs Nurgle acid

but yeah gunners damage resistance is Psykers worse enemy in higher difficulties

so I'd imagine HP + Combat Recharge + Resistance (Gunners) is our most ideal 3

[radiant raven]

Item Rating seems of...
70+73 is not 153

[tranquil fiber]

yeah the stats don't add up

so I imagine there is an invisible stat being added there

[full leaf]

yall think psykers can carry games?

[tranquil fiber]

maybe item rarity

[tranquil fiber]

yes they can with certain team comps

[olive ember]

Yeah I ran two +maxhp and I remember one game I was like "wtf why does one grim still reduce me down to 2/3 max hp"

then I realized my team had picked up two grims

[olive ember]

a good enough psyker can def clutch, multiple times a mission at that, but dunno about hard carry though

[full leaf]

yea i feel like i seeen ogryns do the hard carry or a zealot thats nuts

[tranquil fiber]

I've been in two situations where I've been the last person standing - I had an axe and surge staff and we were on Heresy + High Intensive

One I survived and the other I died after like 3-4 mins of taking it slow

stupid chip damage from gunnners

got me too low

[olive ember]

^^ I run deflector FS

[tranquil fiber]

fun fact, any mobs in the elevator instantly die once you hit the button

[olive ember]

so my main issue is really just specials

nothing screws me over more than a mutant or dog while I'm still trying to deal with horde alone

[tranquil fiber]

I was locked in a room with 2 bullwurks and a rager and they all died loool

[cyan notch]

weird