psyker-class

[shut thorn]

Trauma can save your vet who's egghunting and refuses to use PS

[runic hornet]

and he has, like, grenade gauntlet as an alternative

[solar loom]

The only thing Trauma has over Voidstrike is the Rending Detonation talent and the ability to hit Bulwarks easily

[runic hornet]

When you take trauma you are NOT taking any of the other 3 sticks

[runic hornet]

I'm gonna post it

Trauma: Epicentre 2.29m, blast radius 8.32m.
Rumbler: Epicentre 2.77m, blast radius 8.85m. Does way less damage than trauma
Frags: No listed stats but blast radius of "maybe 10 meters" eyeballed. Does even less damage than rumbler, and hugely so.
Voidstrike: Epicentre 1.32m, Blast radius 3.56m. It's tiny.
Voidstrike damage gets close to 500 and definitely breaks it with perks, but it basically needs near-direct hits.

voidstrike deletes mobs faster and more sustainably

but it doesn't ALSO ahve an 8.3 meter stagger radius

[solar loom]

Voidstrike is a cannonball, not an explosion.

The fact that it also explodes is gravy

[runic hornet]

yes, but sometimes the explosion is better

[worn canopy]

I’m gonna give trauma a go when I find one that isn’t dog water

I dropped it after getting my other staffs but I can give it a go again

[runic hornet]

i have held a room with trauma while dancing back and forth across a box

[vestal finch]

You really need blast radius and charge rate

[worn canopy]

Solidify my views or change everything

[vestal finch]

It's unusable otherwise

[solar loom]

There are very few situations where a circular explosion beats a path of destruction.

[surreal needle]

Blast radius and charge rate matter more then any other stat ngl, if you find one with 70-80% on both youre good

[runic hornet]

every time I popped it the enemies got flung into the far walls and took 4 seconds to stand back up

[worn canopy]

This

[cyan notch]

most of the time u dont need such a massive stagger when u can just kill em

[worn canopy]

Also this

[runic hornet]

Trauma is stronger when you don't trust your team to have a fucking clue
aka, quickplay

[shut thorn]

I would use trauma 100% over surge if the stagger wasn't inconsistent with mutants

[solar loom]

The one thing where Trauma cleans house is when you have a crowd packed with Bulwarks.

[shut thorn]

a bug they claimed to fix 2 patches ago

[worn canopy]

I’m sure they nerfed it

It’s our like big buzzword here

[runic hornet]

you can also "snipe" elites with trauma though the utility of that is limited

it's funny to juggle a crusher or two

[worn canopy]

Everything when it comes to the psyker is “bugged on intention”

[runic hornet]

literally weave the casts in between axing the trash a question

[solar loom]

Trauma has no range, that in itself cripples its utility IMO.

[runic hornet]

surge animation takes longer and basically falls off the moment you stop casting

[surreal needle]

Sniping Bursters with it is fun since in most games no one actually kills them untill they are too close

[runic hornet]

neither does surge

or purgatus

voidstrike is the odd one out there

[cyan notch]

flinging enemies all around is pretty bad for quickplay imo

[solar loom]

Surge is for stopping enemies that are charging you though

[runic hornet]

don't go for "maximm value" strikes, shave off the last 20% of your circle and put that where your frontliners are

[mild canopy]

Feel like i lose every mission where the teammates are 3 vets

[runic hornet]

everything gets blown outward

[solar loom]

But yea, I play Voidstrike partially for the range, because I want the ability to delete a sniper on the other side of the map.

[runic hornet]

it's the same as conflag from VT2, same tricks apply

bad conflag users kill their team

good ones make it easy

[formal glade]

There is nothing more annoying than trauma staff/ogyrn ult knocking down a bunch of enemies everywhere and having to shoot around hoping you shoot the ones that didnt die

Versus surge staff not having that issue at all

[surreal needle]

How do you get these teams, i keep getting teams that have 3 psykers and 1 ogryn

[formal glade]

So its by far better for efficient CC

[shut thorn]

Far more people play vet, they have an easier time going through the game, so the avg 'skill' involved tends to be drastically lower than any other class

[solar loom]

One of the biggest strengths of staves is that they have no sway and no spread, so if you're engaging a stationary target they are amazing sniper weapons.

[runic hornet]

yeah also the LMB orbeez have RIDICULOUS stagger value

I don't know what the fuck it is

[shut thorn]

Also the camo thing on vet means specials will ignore them

[mild canopy]

Heresy, makes me hate vets

[runic hornet]

you have to spray an infantry autogun for several seconds near a scab in teh range

[shut thorn]

So most likely the director spawned every special to go after you

[runic hornet]

before he enters his "uh, I'm scared" state and then further for his "OH SHIT" state

[worn canopy]

I hate the peril cost of trauma staff

[runic hornet]

but you can throw orbeez for that duration for free and then not have burned an entire mag of ammunition

and the suppression on the orbeez has a much larger radius

[cyan notch]

ive had instances where i bomb the doorway and shit flies around and the guy in the front line abandons the door and goes to hit the mobs on the floor

rather just kill them outright

[worn canopy]

I use flame staff with fast cast quelling

[solar loom]

My biggest problem with the trauma staff is that its charge ability has extremely limited range.

[runic hornet]

the point is that "around" should always mean "away from you" if you aim the circle right

[worn canopy]

4% every burst that staggers and comes out like 3-4 times a second

[surreal needle]

I dont get how most veterans are so bad, when i play veteran it feels incredibly easy and i just use a lasgun, heck, even my gun psyker gets more gun kills then most veterans i meet

[worn canopy]

If even

[runic hornet]

if you have enemies landing behind you, that's on you

[worn canopy]

Probably more

[runic hornet]

carried by class
same as vermintide 2 "big brain elf main"

[cyan notch]

they arent landing behind me im behind they are landing behind the frontliner

[solar loom]

The Trauma staff would be fantastic for getting enemies out from behind cover and breaking up big clumps of them at long range if it just allowed me to aim the damn explosion where I wanted instead of this stupid awkward ground targeting with severely limited range.

[runic hornet]

carried by their class so when things start to get hairy and "suboptimal" they just fold

[runic hornet]

then you fucked up, plain and simple

At the risk of sounding condescending, do I need to draw a picture, because I will if you want me to

[cyan notch]

i dont think u understand what im saying

[surreal needle]

If they land behind you or your team just m1 a few times to kill them then charge another blast

You can easily kill 4-5 walkers before they get up

[runic hornet]

if you make sure your frontliner's feet are within the pieplate

the odds of him having a significant amount of "thrown enemies" should be zero

because let me reiterate

trauma instantly deletes all trash even on damnation

there should be zero (0) "thrown enemies" within the pieplate because they should be DEAD

the toughest trash enemy is a helmet dreg and you oneshot that

[worn canopy]

But the ones outside the circle get thrown

And take like no damage

[surreal needle]

Then charge another burst halway and kill the ones that go down in a bad spot, can clear a full horde like that

[runic hornet]

and because your frontliner's feet are in your circle, there are no enemies ethat get thrown behind them

again, do I need to draw a picture

[cyan notch]

suddenly everyone is a trauma expert and have perfect placement in a vacuum

hey you know what ur right

[runic hornet]

I mean I consider myself a conflag main

[worn canopy]

But I’m not talking about anything about them being thrown behind

[runic hornet]

i played it for literally hundreds of hours

and to be fair

I literally wiped the party many times

[surreal needle]

Trauma is the only staff i had fun with :c

[vital badger]

Found a way to do the “Going out with a bang” penance

[runic hornet]

staggered armored units into my team and then they just died lmao

but it's easier in Darktide

[worn canopy]

I’m just saying that the circle seems like it only does damage in the circle because the ones even a hair outside it get thrown

[runic hornet]

yes

So aim better.

[worn canopy]

Okay?

[runic hornet]

...although I do have a suspicion

[surreal needle]

Thats fairly bad advice-

[runic hornet]

that the damage radius is smaller than the graphic if you don't have a ~80% staff

[cyan notch]

hey it seems you have perfect placement and whenever you use trauma nothing gets thrown anywhere only backwards into the horde

[worn canopy]

What about the ones on the sides

[formal glade]

Even with good aim the trauma staff barely kills shit

You spend more time quelling than killing

[runic hornet]

so oneshotting helmet dregs is "barely"

oh you mean uptime

yeah trauma staff has the worst uptime

it's the tradeoff for the most dramatic effect on a charged cast

[solar loom]

The problem with "It deletes all trash even on damnation" is that enemies don't naturally cluster into circles, They naturally form lines. You can shoot a giant hole in the line, but all the enemies in front of your hole and behind your hole are still perfectly intact and dangerous with Trauma. With Voidstrike they are all dead or at least staggered.

[runic hornet]

that 50% perils lol

[cyan notch]

most dramatic effect

what

[worn canopy]

Okay so

[runic hornet]

stop
casting a circle away from your frontline then

I'm drawing the picture fuck it

[worn canopy]

What is the best weapon to gain space to get a trauma circle charged up

[runic hornet]

trauma

[cyan notch]

nobody is gonna look at your picture

[runic hornet]

you get 2.5 charges

[worn canopy]

So you can clear the circle near you

[formal glade]

how is making a small circle that ragdolls enemies dramatic

[runic hornet]

use the half charge to make space at your own feet

[surreal needle]

Trauma is best if you have an ogryn with a shield if you ask me

[cyan notch]

it isnt he doesnt make sense

[formal glade]

you have a staff that lets you shoot a jet of flames out the palm of your hands

and another that turns you into a sith lord

[worn canopy]

He do have a point doe

[cyan notch]

this is all subjective anyway i can say trauma is the least dramatic effect which has the most cost

[worn canopy]

Also don’t use surge on hordes unless it’s like specials in front

[formal glade]

I only shit on trauma because I want it to be good, and it very easily could be if they removed the shitty tiny pixel hitbox it actually has that defeats the purpose in even charging it and reduced the peril cost by like... 40-50%

[runic hornet]

red Xs are fucking dead

everything else goes flying

they shouldn't get knocked so far away that your team has to look behind them

[worn canopy]

Aren’t they behind them now

[formal glade]

Instead of things going flying everything in the circle should just die lol.

[cyan notch]

and change the aiming just have it where im aiming at not below

[runic hornet]

they're also hardknockdowned

[worn canopy]

Also they should fix the range

[runic hornet]

it instakills all trash

get a stick with +unarmored

[worn canopy]

I don’t wanna make bubbles in the sky when I’m trying to pull stuff from cover

[runic hornet]

full charge kills helmet dregs (450 hp)

[cyan notch]

this does not happen in practice

[worn canopy]

Might as well use lightning and get them around the cover

[runic hornet]

yeah the fact the cast goes into the air is fucked

conflag doesn't do this in vt2 soI have no idea how they coded it here for it to do that

[formal glade]

Might as well use surge and not send things flying if you want to cc things

[worn canopy]

Darktide was made by a different team but it really shouldn’t feel like it too.

[solar loom]

I really want to like Trauma staves, but in almost every real sense the cannonball type attack from the voidstrike staff can hit more enemies when you get charged by crowds, and dosn't have a nasty habbit of scattering the survivors so you can instantly engage them with a followup attack.

[vestal finch]

What I liked to do was look down, charge it and flick up to larp as a hockey player

[cyan notch]

aiming at the sky just to hit 8m away from where im standing

[runic hornet]

if you show me video I will 100% show that you made an error in placement
it can be as simple as being conservative with your placement
you're casting for control first and dps second, the fact that it deletes trash instantly just makes it easier

[formal glade]

[cyan notch]

no teammates will look and kill stuff around them

[worn canopy]

If the god emperor blesses me with a good trauma staff I will try it

[surreal needle]

Random idea, curious on opinions on it, would the Trauma staff be fixed if the stumbling enemies or surviving ones got a stack or void flame? just to show off which are alive and deal atleast minor damage

[worn canopy]

Until then I will continue to gamble my life away at getting resources to try for deflector

[runic hornet]

literally everything near them should be hardknocked so they have like 3-4 full seconds to doso

[mild canopy]

wish there was a queue where you could fill all 4 classes, only get 3 vets or 3 psykers

[formal glade]

"casting for control and dps second" sooooooooo just bring a surge staff

[solar loom]

I mean look, if 99.9% of all players are too dumb to use a thing it's still a bad design, even if we acknowledge that there is a tiny chance that it's in fact unbelievably good in the hands of the sainted few.

[runic hornet]

unless there are elites in which case if you have teammates that ignore elites and chase trash (which is a real thing) then honestly your team is kind of hosed to begin with

[cyan notch]

no what about the horde that didnt get hit and are coming from the front but they turn around to hit stuff

[vestal finch]

Can you charge up a surge staff and knock down an entire horde?

[worn canopy]

Every weapon is good in the hands of someone who knows how to use it

[surreal needle]

*Except laspistol

[worn canopy]

Even laspistol

[formal glade]

Why are you acting like knocking down hoards is useful

[runic hornet]

the fact that the vast majority of players can't be assed to learn how to snipe properly in TF2 doesn't make sniper in tf2 a weak class

[formal glade]

Kill the hoard, not make it harder for actual dps to kill

[worn canopy]

They are just freaks, even… among us

[runic hornet]

someone got trapped and yes now the whole horde needs to be on its face

[solar loom]

Quality of weapon and quality of wielder multiply, so a good player with a good weapon is still better than a good player with a bad weapon.

[vestal finch]

Misspelled horde, opinion ignored

[runic hornet]

and if your argument is "lol if I were on that team my teammate would simply not get trapped" then the discussion is over

[cyan notch]

nobody said that

[formal glade]

My argument is the staff is dogshit

[cyan notch]

why are you making stuff up

[runic hornet]

sorry, I'm used to it

it's come up at least ten times

[worn canopy]

Brainburst but they remove the brain bursting ability so I have to beat the sniper to death with my bare hands.

[runic hornet]

I mention how good it is for revives or disablers saves

and the answer I got back was "yeah, well, no one on your team would've gone down if they were good"

[elfin crystal]

just make a brain burst staff maybe?

[runic hornet]

which is probably the most ??? answer possible

[elfin crystal]

and replace bb

[worn canopy]

It would be a great staff

[runic hornet]

make voidstrike your blitz and BB the staff you choose

[worn canopy]

Considering our kit relies so much on a dumb ability

[runic hornet]

i'd support it

imagine if voidstrike was your blitz

HADOUKEN

[elfin crystal]

🤔 maybe

[worn canopy]

12% on 4 stacks is just dumb and not that noticeable

[vestal finch]

Counterpoint: You are shit.

[runic hornet]

bruh chill

[formal glade]

Stay mad

[cyan notch]

24% peril reduction is good tho

[worn canopy]

Maybe

[formal glade]

Thats the only thing warp charges are good for

[elfin crystal]

more spam is always good

[formal glade]

Is the 24% peril reduction

[worn canopy]

I run the flame staff

[vestal finch]

Blocked.

[formal glade]

👍

[worn canopy]

The peril cost is like nothing

[runic hornet]

4 x 6
you can make it go to 6x6 but I think you have better things to spec into

[runic hornet]

it gives mcuh higher uptime on surge staff

[solar loom]

If the trauma staff fired a grenade like projectile that exploded where it hit it would be amazing. If the trauma staff simply caused an explosion at whatever point you're aiming at it would be amazing. But it has this weird ass action-MMORPG ground marker mechanic with extremely limited range, so it will just never be the proper "Cause big warp explosion" staff in its purest form. It will always be awkward and limited.

[cyan notch]

for left click yea

[worn canopy]

Exactly

[runic hornet]

surge staff is... probably the only staff that benefits though

[worn canopy]

Right click also

[formal glade]

Yee, i do enjoy running the x6 trait sometimes but I get annoyed with babysitting the stacks fairly quickly

[surreal needle]

Make the trauma staff a mortar

[cyan notch]

right click goes up a lot when you need it tho

[worn canopy]

Never had an issue with it

[elfin crystal]

would a eldritch blast kind of move work lore wise? 🤔

[surreal needle]

Granade launcher stick when

[runic hornet]

Purgatus is very cheap
Voidstrike goes positive in hordes
Trauma is... so high that you are hitting 100 whether you like it or not

[worn canopy]

Since I can control the burst

[runic hornet]

Surge is the only stick that benefits strongly from warp res

[worn canopy]

Very consistent peril gains

[vestal finch]

If trauma fired a grenade like projectile
Voidstrike?

[cyan notch]

helps your bb too

[solar loom]

Voidstrike is a perfectly straight line

[runic hornet]

yes, but fatshark made it into brainburst rather than a more "gun" like thing

[elfin crystal]

sad

[worn canopy]

Flames with 10% random bb is like it goes off on cd

[runic hornet]

to be fair

brainburst is iconic https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKOHKzhcTzY

[solar loom]

Voidstrike is also not good for it's AoE, the main thing it does is penetration.

[runic hornet]

if you don't know what this is referencing, you had a less interesting teenage years than I did

[cyan notch]

its decent for a quick get off me option

[formal glade]

Well the way I look at it, at least for mostly surge/trauma, is that even if you were to take an alternative like psykinetics wrath and benefit from the +15% increase, gaining even just 1 more attack per 100 peril is already worth more dps than that

So as long as you keep gaining uses between your quells

Its just much better

If you aren't, then yes its not better

[worn canopy]

I use my ult to get dogs off people and to get space from hordes

[cyan notch]

i was just using wrath for more fs damage but i begrudgingly gave it up

[worn canopy]

Since bb is so bad on damnation

The occasional dog here and there

[frail anvil]

any tips for a new psyker yall? constently having to quell is irratating lol

[worn canopy]

But like mutants! Lol

[runic hornet]

staves are really clunky until level 30

[solar loom]

Like, when I started using voidstrike I was using it like a rocket launcher in doom or something, where you aim at the ground or wall behind people to get easier hits on enemies by using its splash damage, but that's a really bad way of using that staff. I really wish there was a staff with big explosion where that WAS the right way to use it though.

[jaunty atlas]

i secretly use my ult so see where the live fucks are. blue = pewpew here

[jade geode]

Have they deployed any hot-fix for the surge Staff yet, or is it still eye-r*pe?

[formal glade]

What level are ya?

[runic hornet]

they strongly scale with the % on the bars

[frail anvil]

4

[worn canopy]

Run a non-peril melee, switch to it when you’re high peril. Let it quell naturally.

[runic hornet]

oh yeah if you don't have a stick yet

[formal glade]

Ah, it gets much better is all I can say lol.

[runic hornet]

you have to quell with your hands out

which causes you to not move

When you get a stick you can quell while walking at slightly reduced speed.

[frail anvil]

yup and then ur walking slow

[worn canopy]

The stick helps quell faster

[formal glade]

And sticks quell faster

[runic hornet]

Why do your feet get superglued to the floor with BB quell? fatshark design lol

[worn canopy]

The talent that makes you not move slower when quelling is such a waste

[frail anvil]

i become a actuak turle

[worn canopy]

Staffs already exist

[jade geode]

Have they deployed any hot-fix for the surge Staff yet, or is it still eye-r*pe?

[cyan notch]

no

and yes

[jade geode]

Fug. :/
Alright, thx.

[formal glade]

If it helps, if you have a non force sword melee weapon, you can swap to that for a pretty fast auto quell while you dps with it and wait to BB again

That's about as good as you can get at level 4

[frail anvil]

si i dont want to use this right

[runic hornet]

no

[formal glade]

Well you can do the same thing with your gun as well

[runic hornet]

literally just use a regular weapon

[worn canopy]

For now until you get a staff if quelling is an issue. Or quell with the sword itself.

[formal glade]

As in the gun also gives auto quell

[worn canopy]

Also uh

Gun psykers.

Why?

[runic hornet]

oh if you quell with the sword out you should move faster than with your hands out

and gun psyker is viable

but only with the mg12 las

this isn't so much because gunpsyker is good

It's more because the mg12 is stupid

[worn canopy]

You’re just a shitty veteran in all ways

[solar loom]

It seems pretty obvious that the original class design had staves be in your melee slot and psykers had pistols as their ranged weapon.

[worn canopy]

Why do it

Brainburst?

The thing we all wish was good?

[solar loom]

But they changed it at some point when they went to the shared weapon design

[formal glade]

I do like gunpsyker when im speeding through really low tier missions for weeklys and such

[runic hornet]

it sounds funny, but it's because you can actually hit certain breakpoints with your 12% warpcharges that he veteran can't without his ult
the thing is
The veteran can ult for like, forever with counterifre, as long as there are rifles around

so it's very, very meh

[worn canopy]

It’s not worth it though

[runic hornet]

you basically trade the high-damge-to-specials-and-elites F that vet gets

for the "clutch save" CC wave F that comes out instantly

is it a good trade? ... probably not

but it's a trade

[worn canopy]

I just run the 15% ult on special kill and give everyone their ults back faster

[jaunty atlas]

and omni detect, team wide

[worn canopy]

So they do more

Support psyker does wonders with a good vet

[formal glade]

Also for lights out, I prefer to have a flashlight on that modifier

[worn canopy]

He kills most and I pop what he can’t see

[ornate hamlet]

Did they add a cooldown on quelling peril when you reach 100% or is my game just bugged?

[elfin crystal]

just use plasma gun . no more elites

[jaunty atlas]

if the vet is smart enough to push F on cooldown, yes

[worn canopy]

I play with a vet that’s good

[worn canopy]

Intended shadow change

[jaunty atlas]

he can understand a high stake situation and press F in coherency ? oO

[ornate hamlet]

Jesus fucking christ, did Psyker need a nerf?

[formal glade]

Oh did they confirm it as intentional?

[worn canopy]

Every patch baybeeeee

[elfin crystal]

they shadow changed a couple of things. including perks. which is wack

[worn canopy]

The damnation carries are real

[elfin crystal]

iirc some blessing on the force sword got absolutely destroyed

[worn canopy]

He shoots a special, it keeps the uptime on it high, and each one he kills reduces his cooldown

So it’s basically infinite

[runic hornet]

a lot of vets

sandbag their ult for fucking ever

[worn canopy]

Plus a psyker and vet in coherency is just good

[solar loom]

I do really like playing with a Deflector sword

[runic hornet]

these are also the vets who forget to charge their power swords

soooo

[worn canopy]

Played with a random vet on malice I think today

[vestal finch]

They say it's a "bug"

[worn canopy]

Didn’t know how to dodge

Bless his heart

He didn’t know how to push pox bursters either

[formal glade]

Lmao nothing is more disappointing than a poxburster sneaking in through a door right beside the group, and pushing it back just for someone to instantly shoot it as its beside the group

[worn canopy]

Yeah

[elfin crystal]

i like just tossing a nade at the door and kill them

[worn canopy]

Holding a brain burst intentionally

Exploding it last second on a teammate

[formal glade]

Yeeeeeep

[worn canopy]

Fun little minigame

Try doing that

It’s a challenge between you and the poxburster

Who will explode first

[formal glade]

LOL

[worn canopy]

If you let go of your right click, you lose

[formal glade]

I promise to play this mini game next time I hear a poxburster in damnation

[vestal finch]

The devs don't want you to know this, but you can still BB at 100 without exploding

[formal glade]

[worn canopy]

Don’t say such things

[vestal finch]

It's just a joke of course!

[worn canopy]

We might get nerfed again whether or not you say anything at all actually

Patch notes are like “We made the psyker fun! Lots of changes have been added!”
Then you get on, nothing changed.. somehow the class is worse and buggier on intent.

[ornate hamlet]

Psyker needs a random timer after which you blow up, just because

[worn canopy]

My friend had an idea

The explosion isn’t the warp, but the bomb collar around your neck preventing you from summoning daemons

[formal glade]

Brainbursting should just build corruption on the psyker, god forbid you have a skill thats auto targeted, much too strong.

[vestal finch]

Once you reach level 30, going above 100 peril should kill you and spawn a beast of nurgle

[formal glade]

[worn canopy]

They should make the psyker unable to walk. They have to be pushed around in a wheelchair

[formal glade]

LMFAO

[worn canopy]

This is a new gameplay mechanic similar to the “strand type” games that encourages players to stick together to survive

[elfin crystal]

ride the ogryn in to battle

[wet quest]

Would be wild, 1 in 1000 perils death summons a daemonhost

[worn canopy]

Every brain burst, the psyker has a 10% chance to explode. In which they are locked in a minigame for 10 seconds. If they fail they die immediately.

All peril gain is doubled now

Quelling is slower

[formal glade]

The cherry on top is when you use your staff at 70% peril and still instantly die due to a bug and summon the daemonhost

[worn canopy]

Brain burst now takes two pops to kill a poxwalker

[cyan notch]

i love auspex minigames

[worn canopy]

Honestly I wouldn’t put it past them

Like

The random brain bursts you get on hit?

If that gave you peril?

[formal glade]

Oh god dont say that

Thats unironically

A nerf i could see them doing

Because fuck us in particular

[worn canopy]

Yeah and it’s so terrible

But they would do it

They would say it was a bug though

A whoopsie

[formal glade]

[vestal finch]

Dude BB is like sooo op dude so like having a 10% chance to do it for free is mega op

[worn canopy]

Yeah especially how it doesn’t kill anything on difficulties that matter

[gray island]

HONESTLY THE 10% FOR FREE ONE IS PRETTY POG

cap lock my b

[weak galleon]

I haven't done hp builds yet (was running either wound+toughness, or toughness, for my entire time, on heresy+), but how decent is this?

[vestal finch]

I get Cerebral Lacerations to help my team!!

[worn canopy]

Team damage is turned on for the psyker specifically.

They take and give team damage

Only psyker tho

[summer prairie]

not very good, but decent if you roll the curio perk

[gray island]

that implys you actually brainburst. i help my team by clearing the hordes

[vestal finch]

I always BB crushers and bulwarks

[formal glade]

But he's proccing it with the free BB every 15s

[worn canopy]

Same

[mild canopy]

i cant even use voidstaff in heresy, i do no dmg, just a crappy cc stagger

[worn canopy]

But that’s the extent

[gray island]

purge staff ftw

[summer prairie]

not worth buying in any case

[solar loom]

So, here is a thing: The Curio's main stat is listed as a blessing. Does that mean we will be able to rip those and replace them when changing blessings comes around?

[weak galleon]

Yeah, that's what I was thinking to roll away.
i'm still sticking to my current build, so if I buy this, I get it for future use only, so not sure if I should.

[jaunty atlas]

? oO

[worn canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/predator-arnold-schwarzenegger-hand-shake-arms-gif-3468629

[jaunty atlas]

voidstaff shreds

[vestal finch]

Sometimes I BB snipers and Gunners too

[worn canopy]

Wait until damnation tho

[vestal finch]

And Reapers

[worn canopy]

Reapers too

[vestal finch]

And Bombers...

[mild canopy]

it does but when all the gunners are spread out i dont have the luxury to max charge

[worn canopy]

But my vet got uh

[vestal finch]

And Trappers...

[worn canopy]

Extra damage against them

So reapers are deleted in a few shots

[gray island]

damnnation is where purge shine brightest tbh

[jaunty atlas]

why max charge if you do not need the penetration ?

[weak galleon]

I like rolling purge, but this is a DogSpam weekend, so had to switch to Void.
Much easier to get dogs off allies at greater distances

[mild canopy]

doesnt do enough dmg to kill with simple right click left click min charge

[jaunty atlas]

0.1s charge for the explosion

that's all

[formal glade]

Purge honestly just shines. It's an absolute beast

[worn canopy]

I might switch off the 30 perk that gives me fast BB

[jaunty atlas]

2 shot to the head

[elfin crystal]

i just like surge because most of the time you have to hand hold people

[worn canopy]

I use the ult for getting space for the team and pushing dogs off of people

[gray island]

they said the perfect build doesnt exist...

[worn canopy]

Why that last perk

[jaunty atlas]

i find 5B better

because push without it is quite shit

[gray island]

use it on hordes to get your stacks back instantly

[worn canopy]

Which is 5B

[jaunty atlas]

wihtout charge it's still a good cc

[elfin crystal]

it,s not shit if you are at max peril

[jaunty atlas]

why using push if not at max peril

[elfin crystal]

you don't

[jaunty atlas]

more precisely how dare you be not at max peril

[gray island]

it pairs well with the first feat to get toughness back from basic hordes

[elfin crystal]

i just use that

personally

[worn canopy]

Im not online but I think I’m uh

[gray island]

looks like it goes well with a surge staff

[jaunty atlas]

you exhaust the charges so the dr is quasi inexistant, the autoBB is a gmmick at best

[elfin crystal]

yeah that's a surge build

[jaunty atlas]

so .. i don't know

6B offer superb CC

target illumination

plus dot.

[worn canopy]

312133

That’s what I run I think

[jaunty atlas]

5B seems useless but procs more often than 5C

and synergize with 6B

that said i play void staff.

[gray island]

im willing to try it, i just like the passive ability to maintain my warp

little less maintenance with 5c. 3a isnt relyable in dead zones

[weak galleon]

you mean 25-2?
Without 25-3 you simply don't have enough passive WC generation to even bother.

[worn canopy]

I might take the lacerations perk

Since I don’t kill stuff anyways

But the cooldown for team is so good

[formal glade]

I personally run 221333, but swap the first one to 3 if I'm using the surge staff

[jaunty atlas]

5C is at best a charge every 15s. which is nothing.

[worn canopy]

1B sounds great but like

I use cutlass

[jaunty atlas]

3A does the work imho

[weak galleon]

wdym it's nothing

it's all adds up

as a person tried running with and without it, difference is pretty huge

and I notice the difference, because I run 5-1

[formal glade]

It sounds like nothing, but in practice its absolutely impactful

[weak galleon]

so WCs is literally my lifeline.

[formal glade]

It's a very big QoL difference

[jaunty atlas]

i really doesn't, carefully monitor your charges, in a horde you're maxe, the headpop is nearly oways wasted on a crap target

[gray island]

when the cooldown to lose your charges is 25s having a reliable source every 15-20 seconds is perfect for upkeep.

[worn canopy]

@jaunty atlas gimme the numbers

What ya build

Imma give it a go

[weak galleon]

It's not just about being maxed in my case, it's having a constant stream of incoming WCs.

and 25-3 is absolutely crucial for that

[jaunty atlas]

as you see fit

[patent hatch]

Depends what staff tbh

With surge it’s great!

[uncut turret]

works with lacerate dagger and your choice of staff tbh. I've been doing a very melee focused psyker build in heresy/damnation and works alright as long as you have an accompanying zealot/ogryn in the mix. Put in purgatus (and 5/1 and 30/2 talent) for instant stagger, horde clear and massively increasing warp charge generation and you're pretty much set against everything in melee (even ragers/maulers/crushers), I personally like using the high heat trauma staff to forcefully make hard enemies fall flat on the ground so I can put in multiple heavy dagger hits on them. It honeslty plays like a zealot with long range potential and horde clearing in the force of staff/ult and very high paced,

[patent hatch]

Purge and void not needed

[formal glade]

Oh yea this is a very fair point

[gray island]

if you're good with upkeep on your wc then sure you can swap, i just feel the automatic headpop over a manual BB is more DPS efficient, not wasting time with manual BBs

[jaunty atlas]

voidstaff / deflector

[patent hatch]

On Purge staff I have a 14% chance for warp charge on every kill

14% if I kill it
4% if someone else kills it
So random BB is useless

[formal glade]

Yeee

[patent hatch]

On surge I only have a 4% chance to get it on kill so that random BB is great

[gray island]

how do you see the 14% chance for warp?

[formal glade]

On void it feels ass too

It's S tier for surge staff tho

[patent hatch]

10% because of the Purge staff ult

[uncut turret]

10% due to 30/2 (soulblaze kills from any source have 10% chance to grant warp charge)

[weak galleon]

I run this on Void/Purge, Mk5 Axe or FSword, on Heresy+.
Sometimes altering between 10-1 / 2 and 30 -2/3

[patent hatch]

4% cause psychic communium

[weak galleon]

that being said, I also run full toughness build

[gray island]

i honestly never read the bottom half of that ngl

[cyan notch]

i thought thats bugged

[weak galleon]

so 1 WC equals 46 recovered toughness for me.

[cyan notch]

and they have to die from dot to get 10%

[worn canopy]

Aye fair

But also I use cutlass

[gray island]

thats not a bug thats how it reads

[worn canopy]

That cutlass pop saves lives

[weak galleon]

And when your team fails and you are forced into heavy melee clutch situations?

[worn canopy]

Might be best with force sword because it’s the best for creating space to use staff

[patent hatch]

My purge build is
1 1 1 2 1 2

Surge

3 2 1 3 3 2

Void

2 2 1 2 1 3

[uncut turret]

what's neat though is that if you have an ally on purgatus, the chance also applies to you XD i think that's a bug, but it makes warp charge generation so easy if you're on that ult and not on purge

[worn canopy]

Also what does WC stand for exactly

[weak galleon]

Warp Charge.

[patent hatch]

4% on kill, and that doesn’t happen much

[weak galleon]

I thought you were talking about 25-3. nvm.

[worn canopy]

Aye

[frail anvil]

sad cant afford the staff

[patent hatch]

I mean gun Psyker is a different story tbh

[weak galleon]

don't be sad, Trauma is trash.

[formal glade]

You aren't missing out on a trauma

[patent hatch]

It’s terrible staff and terrible stats you don’t want it

[weak galleon]

I mean, it's okay to play around with it on low levels.

[formal glade]

You're saving yourself lots of trauma tbh

[weak galleon]

just to look at it's nice animation and sound.

[frail anvil]

lol

[weak galleon]

and then forget about it forever (until they fix the damn thing)

[frail anvil]

what staff should i save for?

[formal glade]

Any but trauma

[weak galleon]

^

[gray island]

surge and purge are kings

[patent hatch]

Purge, Surge, Void all have there place and are super cool

[uncut turret]

void, purge (if lvl 30 already)

[weak galleon]

all 3 of them (trauma is 4th) have their solid use-cases.

[jaunty atlas]

damn i wanted to make a frequency test but 3A doesn't proc in the meatgrinder :x

[worn canopy]

I like the civilized nature tonight

[gray island]

surge and void are better for leveling though

[worn canopy]

I remember the fights over staffs

[patent hatch]

Yeah purge is only good at 30

[frail anvil]

should i get a pistol?

[worn canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/bar-brawl-gif-11173234

[patent hatch]

There really fun I can recommend it

[last vine]

guys pick and mix any tips? I'm going ceazy

[worn canopy]

Psykers talking about staffs

https://tenor.com/view/camelot-gif-22738779

[weak galleon]

until you get a staff? Anything is better than Trauma, sadly.

[gray island]

meatgrinder doesn't even have the clusters of hordes you would typically see

[patent hatch]

Use third ult that’s it

[worn canopy]

It’s like the “I don’t like your staff you use but it’s not trauma”

[jaunty atlas]

true

[frail anvil]

thats what we got lmao

[patent hatch]

That’s one thing I do not like about meat grinder

[worn canopy]

Oh I never shared psyker status

[patent hatch]

Hard to test anti hoard weapons

[uncut turret]

trauma also have a solid use-case, being the only staff that can force crushers to fall flat (even on damnation) on half charge. it's just very hard to use (very tactical), has high peril cost, slow charge. The ease of use of the other three makes the trauma staff very unlikable by a lot of people

[worn canopy]

Though honestly it’s quite ugly

I like the single shoulder pad in blue and black

From the store

[frail anvil]

when do u start unlocking the feats?

[jaunty atlas]

5A should allow warp charges to last 60s. it would give some build a lot more flexibility

[worn canopy]

Every 5

[weak galleon]

Afaik, there's one more staff that makes Crushers fall flat.
Called a bolter.

[gray island]

sibling

[worn canopy]

Hello sibling

[uncut turret]

no that gives em a small case of death (and that's not available to psyker afaik)

[weak galleon]

we can't have that, unfortunately, but yeah.

[patent hatch]

Better than nothing, Psyker really relies on last to talents to come into a build unfortunately;

Best leveling talents in my eyes tho
3 2 1 3 3

[worn canopy]

You know I should post the actual outfits I use

[patent hatch]

Same

[weak galleon]

they still fall flat 😄

[worn canopy]

We don’t have much besides urinal heads and recolored leveling armor

[patent hatch]

look

I like

The white shirt

[worn canopy]

The white outfit is neat

[gray island]

my mindset is a typcial horde is 20-30 and if each has a 4% chance to proc, even if teammates kill its a minimum 80% chance to get at least 1 warp.

[patent hatch]

The head and trousers nah

[worn canopy]

But what else do you wear with it

[patent hatch]

But the shirt is lovely

Black hood with Google’s and black penance trousers

I’d show but at work

[surreal needle]

I love how talking about any staff is a civilised discussion but every brain burst talk boils down to WHY IS A BOX STRONGER

[worn canopy]

I want to use the imperial edition armor more because of the unique globes and it’s the only black and gold outfit

[cyan notch]

i think bb is fine

[surreal needle]

I think youre wrong

[worn canopy]

@patent hatch the white shirt outfit that’s sleeveless right?

[gray island]

BB bad, sorry

[patent hatch]

BB is weaker because it has infinite ammo

[patent hatch]

Yeah, the one with metal bars down your arms

[frail anvil]

how diffuclt is the 3 star stuff?

[gray island]

bb is only good if there are no vets on your team and you ping a sniper

[worn canopy]

Not wrong tho

[frail anvil]

have only been doing 1

[gray island]

and thats only if there isnt a horde in front of it getting in the way

[worn canopy]

Once more we are all civilized

[jaunty atlas]

honestly the only situation where i care if 6B does damage is vs a horde, 3 full void pretty much gives that, you do 23 per tick and kill the room

[cyan notch]

youre not supposed to spam bb

[patent hatch]

Most people consider it “normal” mode. 1-2 is kinda tutorial. 4-5 is hard then just pain

[surreal needle]

Brain burst is a great way to mark targets for your veteran since they are like moths, attack anything that glows

[patent hatch]

^

[jaunty atlas]

the rest of the time, it's just a better control that purge my peril

[worn canopy]

We share a single braincell but it keeps undergoing mitosis.

[patent hatch]

Mine just explodsrandomly idk

[surreal needle]

Im not joking, use brain burst on any elite in a horde and they immediately all target it, its great

[worn canopy]

I hope they don’t turn around. I am glowing.

My eyes shine blue. My headpiece has multiple blue orbs on it now.

[patent hatch]

It’s great tbh

[worn canopy]

My hands glow blue

[patent hatch]

Send pick? Sounds cool

[frail anvil]

lol ive seen that happen

[surreal needle]

Just buy the new cosmetic and put a towel on your head with some golden decoration

[worn canopy]

I’ll get out of bed

[jaunty atlas]

to be fair, without the detect, headhunting is quite hazardous with some weapons. i don't even mind if they pop it instead of me

[worn canopy]

I’ll also take a pic of your fit too

[frail anvil]

i get only bots sad

[surreal needle]

Can we change brain burst to just put glowing arrows towards whoever youre targeting with a glowing "Shoot here" text

[gray island]

my zealot cosplay

[jaunty atlas]

chainsword where

[frail anvil]

that look sick

[worn canopy]

It glows around me

[gray island]

i like sliding around with the DS 😦

[worn canopy]

Psykers want to die

[frail anvil]

when game cant find people to join me

[jaunty atlas]

shame

[worn canopy]

Give us buffs

[gray island]

my excuse used to be I was superslide out of coherency and die like every other zealot but they stealth patched the zoomies

[frail anvil]

the pain

[worn canopy]

@patent hatch ?

large object to block projectiles

[worn canopy]

the cool blind version

typically i go with something simple like this

another neat look

[worn canopy]

Ran that for a while too

[solar loom]

I actually really like the simpler looks on Psykers. Not a fan of crotch skulls, which kind of cramps my style in this game.

[gray island]

hurr derr look in a veteran

[surreal needle]

My Psyker looks like trash all in an attempt to avoid looking like a world of warcraft character with the tabard and giant pauldrons

[solar loom]

Makes me sad that the sanctioned psyker outfit doesn't have its proper trenchcoat.

[surreal needle]

Damn, it looks so bad it killed the chat

[worn canopy]

i LOVE the large shoulderpads

[formal glade]

Omg no 😭 Looking dope!!

[gray island]

literally best helmet in game

[worn canopy]

bald

[surreal needle]

I just wish it didnt have the leather straps on the back ngl

[worn canopy]

this just looks best to me rn

so i be running this fit

[near wyvern]

Goggles gang rise up

[worn canopy]

nice psyker status

[gray island]

peak psyker apparel

[frail anvil]

when u cant get in a game with anyone

big sad times

[near wyvern]

Damn I have yellow prison clothes

[gray island]

kinda wish i didnt go red tbh

[solar loom]

Yellow is by far the rarest

[frail anvil]

peek

[solar loom]

also lets you do scab cosplay 😄

[worn canopy]

I went blue because

I like the color blue

[near wyvern]

Naughty elf

[frail anvil]

hahaha

[worn canopy]

Let me buy prisoner garb already

[formal glade]

I spent all night doing my 25 mission weekly in 1 night

[worn canopy]

Give us like

[gray island]

i reroll that one for 25 scriptures always

[worn canopy]

A black market or something

[formal glade]

I had this and the 25 scriptures

[worn canopy]

Make them sell prisoners garbs and last week’s Melks for twice as much

[gray island]

you can get duplicates

[formal glade]

Oooh I didnt know that!

[near wyvern]

Melk gives only poor crap. Kinda wish I could change my Melk currency into plasteel.

[formal glade]

Good to know.

[frail anvil]

cant get a game with people ugh

[worn canopy]

@frail anvil welcome to sibling chat though. This place gets wild as hell sometimes, in which case I always find refuge in #ogryn-class channel.

And also it’s like 6 am I don’t expect people to be on for me

Ogryn chat is like “do this club go good?”
And it’s either yes or no

[formal glade]

im sad now

[worn canopy]

Nice

[frail anvil]

big siblings

[formal glade]

I just wanted to look at the shop man, this aint right

[worn canopy]

I want to make a psyker level 1 with all the gear I have now

[formal glade]

Oh that reminds me, completely random, but can you refine as soon as you unlock the shrine of messiah?

And if you could, would rerolling 3 curios to have 30% exp bonus be worth for leveling alt characters?

[frail anvil]

i cant

[formal glade]

Perhaps not, it does sound like that would be very strong

[frail anvil]

yes or no?

[near wyvern]

I would just save the mats. The time you hit 30 that +exp is useless and that's when the real crafting game starts. Better to save all the mats there for upgrading stuff and begging Omnissiah for good rolls.

[formal glade]

I'd recommend saving your mats for now personally

[frail anvil]

gotcha

[formal glade]

Well I only say because its very cheap to refine curios

And because while yes exp gets wasted, not being 30 sucks ass

[near wyvern]

You will anyways need so many plasteel which you seem to get for running low level missions...

The real suffering of Damnation is that you tend to find lots of diamantine and low plasteel.

[summer prairie]

you get more plasteel on damnation than on lower difficulties

and more plasteel than diamantine

[near wyvern]

Barely but not enough.

[frail anvil]

anyone want to run some missions?

[near wyvern]

The recipes require so little diamantine

[summer prairie]

sure

[frail anvil]

need that xp lol lvl 4 curretly

im na

[near wyvern]

I can get 150 plasteel on around 20min malice run. That's 7.5 plasteel / minute.

I can get 200 to 250 plasteel in 30-40min, that's a lot less per min.

[formal glade]

You at least have the benefit of not falling asleep in Damnation versus Malice

[near wyvern]

Yeah I just bite the bullet and play damnation. If I start farming in this game I will kill all the fun out of it.

[formal glade]

Yis, the reality is so long as you're enjoying yourself, your hours will end up with you hoarding too many mats as is

Until every crafting system is unlocked and it requires limbs

[frail anvil]

im just trying to lvl currently haha

[summer prairie]

that's barely less if you are closer to 30 than 40, and I expect the next crafting options to balance the material requirements out

[frail anvil]

quick play malice lvl 4 haha

[formal glade]

I'd offer to help ya, but after 10 hours of last minute weeklies, i shall crash in bed

[worn canopy]

Yeah I should have been asleep

[formal glade]

Ni ni dorks

[frail anvil]

my brain in pain

[surreal needle]

Have you tried bursting it

[frail anvil]

everything is killing me

[jaunty atlas]

i'm the ony one that is totally engrossed by warp flurry to the inevitable point where i explode ? i mean ... you're not really a glass cannon, more like a canon used until it melt, and you go laughing when it does

[spice oar]

I hope they rework psyker, he could be so much more

[jaunty atlas]

i don't know. the progression through levels was really not enjoyable, your first impression is : wtf is this crap

but the late game ..

[cyan notch]

mine is a she

[frail anvil]

un god it hurts

[jaunty atlas]

then it changes everything !

[spice oar]

Don't care what they are they still are property of the inquisiton

[frail anvil]

late game psyker make up for the abysmal lvling?

[jaunty atlas]

yes.

no amm, no grenade, just sheer dps

[frail anvil]

just need to get there

[jaunty atlas]

you go until you explode. litteraly

[frail anvil]

lmao

sounds great

[jaunty atlas]

hold on. if the class fantasy appeals you, hold on

[frail anvil]

can do

[jaunty atlas]

use antax mk 5 for melee, it will save you a lot of time

even grey

[frail anvil]

that?

[jaunty atlas]

yes.

it doesn't look like much

but this thing shreds

the block follow up is very good, the heavy too, and everything else is light chop chop

[fallow meadow]

I still don't get why mkV is better than other axe. The push attack is the same motion.

[jaunty atlas]

the special can push crushers and other

that's the rythm, the attack pattern and the raw dmg

[frail anvil]

its now green

[jaunty atlas]

not needed but why not 🙂

[frail anvil]

more p[ower

[west galleon]

would brendan frasier play a psyker in a live action 40k series/movie?

[jaunty atlas]

no sadly, look at your damage and the stats, they did not move

who is brendan frasier ?

[west galleon]

wait

[frail anvil]

ahhh i see

[solar loom]

What's the armor type on BoN, and Plague Ogryn?

[west galleon]

are you like really young? there is no excuse for that question except you're just too young to know

[grave bobcat]

Unyielding

[jaunty atlas]

i'm ... nearly 40

[fallow meadow]

Don't worry about upgrading until you are 30. Just stick with what you can buy and save up the materials. You will need them later.

[frail anvil]

gotcha

[west galleon]

you never saw the movie the mummy?

[solar loom]

Brandon Frasier is the guy from The Mummy

[jaunty atlas]

oooh

[frail anvil]

the mummy was great

[jaunty atlas]

yeah, the guy from the mummy

[frail anvil]

loved all of them

[jaunty atlas]

tom cruise no ?

[frail anvil]

no

[west galleon]

excommunicated

[jaunty atlas]

joke. do not throw rocks.

[solar loom]

I love that scene where the one dude goes "Dis is cursed, dat is cursed" just pointing around at random things.

[frail anvil]

sad

[west galleon]

im asking bc with the news that caville is now doing a 40k piece im wondering which actors could play a good psyker

[solar loom]

I kind of do that bit when people constantly use some word for something.

[west galleon]

or 40k characters in general

[jaunty atlas]

frasier stopped acting no ?

[grave bobcat]

Jeff Goldblum

[west galleon]

he's back

[jaunty atlas]

man. jeff goldblum.

[west galleon]

his new movie is supposed to be really impactful emotionally

[solar loom]

Christopher Walken

[west galleon]

but tbh im not watching movies to tear up

[jaunty atlas]

benedict cumberbatch would make a fantastic psyker

he look psyker. he talk psyker

[solar loom]

and Nicolas Cage

[jaunty atlas]

pretty sure he's a psyker

[solar loom]

The trio of weirdness

[static epoch]

last person you would want is nic cage lmao

[west galleon]

nic cage would make a great zealot or inquisitor

[jaunty atlas]

nic cage is the vet that take a lot of stimdrugs

you know the one

[west galleon]

just weird enough to be somewhat of an authority figure

[frail merlin]

How to survive as Psyker?

[grave bobcat]

You're dying? 😄

[frail merlin]

I keep on dying and cant kill as good as the other classes

[static epoch]

he won't stay true to the universe he does his own thing

he's impossible

[west galleon]

so nic cage would be some chaos dude

[static epoch]

no he is not fit for adaptation i think lol

[west galleon]

at all? i thought we could throw his style a bone with that so he can just be weird with the explanation being "eeeh its chaos"

[west galleon]

well, first off (and im not being patronizing), try to not get hit, you want to avoid damage

[frail anvil]

im also dying but have the time i kill myself

[jaunty atlas]

honestly i don't see any scenario where i could enjoy a film/serie on warhammer

[west galleon]

which means you can weave inbetween your team so they can protect you until you get a feeling for your positioning/movement

[jaunty atlas]

it will turn street fighter i can feel it

[frail anvil]

so why the axe so good?

[jaunty atlas]

just try it

[west galleon]

i dont like the axe because i never saw one with a sweeping attack

[jaunty atlas]

you'll understand fast

you do not sweep with it

[west galleon]

i like my crowd control

[jaunty atlas]

you chop

and block

[frail anvil]

heads?

[west galleon]

exactly

[jaunty atlas]

yes

[west galleon]

not my style, thats why i dont use staffs aswell

[jaunty atlas]

if the dude has a hard head you use heavy

[river crest]

Cleave, so its attacks can go through a bit more enemies. I also find its attack angles seem to score headshots more often

[frail anvil]

gotcha

[jaunty atlas]

so ... what do you do ? oO

[west galleon]

scout lasgun or infantry lasgun with 100+ shots

[jaunty atlas]

you use ammo and you melee like a peasant ?

hurg

[west galleon]

yeee

im a hipster

[jaunty atlas]

you're a dead weight :p

[vocal iron]

vet wanna be

[river crest]

It has a sweep on its push attack

[west galleon]

meh, i have yet to actually cause a wipe so you elitists can smell your own farts for as long as you want

i'll just observe that until you realise the truth

but back to the important part

devils claw or rapier

[jaunty atlas]

bah. if you have fun.

you're missing on the plasma gun though.

[west galleon]

🙂

[royal granite]

i wonder if devil's claw may be a better defensive weapon with the parry

not against hordes though eh

[jaunty atlas]

which is like a psyker, but with a valve

[frail anvil]

ok axe good

[royal granite]

i fucking wish we had a plasma staff

[jaunty atlas]

if you need a ranged weapon try to get an agripinaa mk 1

it's an all rounder, nice damge, nice ammo economy

[royal granite]

i WISH we had a weapon that could do that kind of damage

[jaunty atlas]

until you can get a staff

well void staff.

[royal granite]

agripinaa is good, but don't crouch while you aim it, for some reason that makes recoil worse

[jaunty atlas]

same thing, no ammo, better rof

[royal granite]

void is very different

it fires a slow projectile, the plasma is just a railgun for some reason

plasma also does way more damage

[jaunty atlas]

hmm. i'm not that sure

you have a better burst yes, but dps ?

[frail anvil]

just 1 shot a mutant

[royal granite]

dpm more like. the plasma does have way worse uptime

but again, they are very different weapons

a staff with a hitscan projectile that could deal with armour would be dope

[jaunty atlas]

i don't understand why plasma is hitscan though

[frail merlin]

I mean I mostly use the Recon Lasgun

[jaunty atlas]

and why it goes through walls

[royal granite]

recon lasgun is worse than the kantrael

[frail merlin]

Do i get to use a Bolter later?

[jaunty atlas]

the laser minigun thing ?

i like it

[royal granite]

it might look like they have similar dps, however the kantrael has a massive headshot multiplier

[jaunty atlas]

nope

[fallow meadow]

Recon las is a nice wep. Just don't pick the one with 80+ damage. It take two ammo for a shot and the rpm is lower.

[cyan notch]

yea and the others do half damage

[frail anvil]

i see why axe is nice

[jaunty atlas]

yeah ? i regret so much to not have used it on vet leveling

[cyan notch]

....

vet has power sword

[jaunty atlas]

that's not exactly a leveling weapon

plus .. i'm not sure i like it more than antax

[cyan notch]

wdym not a leveling weapon

whats a leveling weapon

[fallow meadow]

Power sword is on a totally different level power scale.

[frail anvil]

which feet should i get?

[fallow meadow]

I think what he mean is you can't get a PS until you are higher level.

[cyan notch]

you get it at like level 12

[fallow meadow]

Doesn't matter much until you have more wep choice. I guess 1 is the best to make use of in this stage.

[wet belfry]

The first one is the strongest when you actually get to max level.

But if you arent at that point it really doesnt matter

[frail anvil]

based

[jaunty atlas]

really ? oO got mine at something like 24

[fallow meadow]

Can't remember, but I think you need 20+ to unlock it.

[vocal iron]

scammed

i thought it used to be 25 but they lowered all the weapon level requirements

[frail anvil]

whats the next weapon i want?

[jaunty atlas]

surge/void/ purge whatever ? as you see fit ?

[fallow meadow]

Force sword I guess? Quite a fun wep to play with.
Ignore Trauma until you are higher level and can find one that have good charge speed and range.
I think the Surge staff is the second staff you can unlock. Give it a try.

[jaunty atlas]

void is your long range, surge mid range, purge close

[fair axle]

Wait what .... LOL
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/psyker-blessings/69806
My post actually got acknowledged and it is full of... sarcasm

Well, hopefully we get to have useful and working blessings now

Wouldn't that be fun

[frail merlin]

I cant read the reply

[fair axle]

There's no reply, it's been marked as acknowledged, so.. they're aware now and it'll be worked on

They rarely reply unless it is something super.. problematic like.. you know.. Causing every Psyker in existance to get motion sickness from a VFX effect

[merry osprey]

Yeah even seeing psykers use it is alot they distort everything in a 4 foor radius

[fair axle]

Seeing a Psyker do it is nothing compared to being the psyker doing it..

I don't really notice it in the match, because Damnation tends to be a fair bit.. hectic.. But if I stand still.. BAM naseua

nausea

[sick kindle]

The sliver lining is that it helped me develop a playstyle I enjoy more than surge. Anti-armor CQC horde clear. MK V Combat Axe to push stager maulers/maniacs mid swing and horde clear with Purgatus

[fair axle]

I had to turn off Motion Blur for the same reason.. It's just too damn much

[frigid marten]

Yeah the khornate psyker

[fallow meadow]

Choppy psyker is also a good psyker

[cosmic heath]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/243785993113567232/1054036217521516544/image.png

got it entirely by accident

swamped by a horde and didn't track in the panic, blew up and killed like 6 shotgunners

[fair axle]

Oh I went into a Damnation mission solo and surged the first 5 elites, then blew myself up at the end of it

[cosmic heath]

mine was on a regular malice mission

[fallow meadow]

You are lucky. Blowing up don't do much damage.

[fair axle]

I also did the same for the Pick'n'Mix

[cosmic heath]

me blowing up also saved the squad

lmao

cuz it cleared enough space for them to catch their breath and then pick me up

[fair axle]

480-512, just spam surge until you blow up

[cosmic heath]

I'm still stuck on throwing 5/7 off a cliff

its not a very common occurance I feel like

[fair axle]

Right, so the push off a ledge

Do your explosion at 99%

then push with force sword

push to win

push push push

[fallow meadow]

I mostly spam surge only I have some space. I use my dueling sword quite a lot.

[fair axle]

As long as they haven't recovered from the knock down, the force sword push counts for the achievement

[vestal rose]

I did the cliff thing on the hab dreyko investigation, at the end where two of the three catwalks get blown up. Right after you walk across the remaining catwalk there's two doors that spawn a horde, block them there for a moment then chuck them off the corner

[fallow meadow]

I should use FS more than. I have the same problem.

[cosmic heath]

alright

[fair axle]

Yeah either there or when you're defending the tower at the end

the walk way that has all the poxwalkers coming in is the best place to do it

just use F at 99% and push it off

[warm delta]

there is a mission where the last area is to hold your position in a small room, there is intel in the room and there are like 3 bridges, you can just stand on the window wait for the horde to come thru the bridge and F, done

simple

[cosmic heath]

its the espionage mission

[fair axle]

Provided that it actually knocks them off which it has a tendency to.. not always do

even at 100% it's not guaranteed it will knock them off

always start pushing on force sword

[warm delta]

if you tell your team to not kill any and just let them group up on the bridge it should be easy to push off 7 by one F

[fair axle]

I did it that way and I had to run out to push them

It is not guaranteed that they'll fall off

[fallow meadow]

I did try a couple time in the espionage mission, but my team is just killing them too fast lol.

[fair axle]

or that enough falls off

Just ask your team not to kill the poxwalkers

The worst one to do is honestly convincing an entire team not to kill a Monstrocities until you've done 90% damage

Not had a single team let me do it

[warm delta]

that is still relatively easy if a team agree to help you, pick n mix is really giving me aids

[fair axle]

Pick'n'Mix is easy

There's always 5-8 elites or specials in the first area of a Damnation mission

always

Just start a solo mission, and then brain burst them 🙂

[fallow meadow]

I got stuck in 4/5 on Pick'n'Mix for quite some time.

[fair axle]

then exit once you're done

[warm delta]

oh

[fair axle]

when I say 5-8 specials or elites I mean it's either 5-8 shotgunners/gunners

which I guess are elites come to think of it

[warm delta]

same

[vivid merlin]

what are good perks for voidstrike? any that help reach breakpoints for heresy

[fair axle]

Nope

[warm delta]

let me try this now see if I can get it

[fair axle]

I got it on my first attempt, may take a bit depending on how unlucky you are with maps and enemies.. The important part is to have the 25% speed increase ult..
BB --> Ult --> BB --> BB --> BB --> BB

I almost failed because the last one hid just as I tried to target it

[river sand]

if you're lucky you get a voidstrike with unarmoured, 5% crit / crit on peril and double shot on crit

[warm delta]

ok

[fallow meadow]

lol

[warm delta]

instant death lol

[fallow meadow]

It won't take much of you time to try again.

[warm delta]

and one bot ksed one elite

[remote tusk]

Pick n mix is the hard one for sure

[cobalt belfry]

Only guardsman?

[jaunty atlas]

it's me or everybody expect us to tie loose ends in every situation ?

[fair axle]

Yeah, you gotta be fast on it, I was lucky the assassination mission was the bridge version.. it is exceptionally easy on that one as you can just target them from safety

[vale terrace]

Is the revolver any good when it's got good stats, or is it just eh?

[jaunty atlas]

well the ammo economy is not nice, the dmg is here and the range too but ... heh.

[vale terrace]

I felt like the reload kinda sucked, but im using a 190 one or something

[vestal rose]

I have used nothing but the revolver since they put surge staff in a coma
It's not fantastic, but it feels incredible
Sadly I feel like due to the insanely slow reload you basically have to play veteran to use it effectively, and if you're playing veteran you could just use any five other veteran weapon to better effect

[jaunty atlas]

the reload is badass so i forgive the slowness

[fair axle]

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/psyker-blessings/69806

The beauty.. The love.. We finally have it acknowledged that our blessings are shite and bugged.

[undone badge]

had a oof moment today

[vestal rose]

Speaking of, I levelled up a veteran just to throw lots of grenades
turns out grenades kinda suck
I am no longer jealous of veteran's grenades

[undone badge]

apparently kinetic overload can target daemonhosts

thanks, game

[vale terrace]

They look cooler than they are

[vestal rose]

oh no

[fair axle]

Nades are only good for poxwalkers

The only useful Nade is the Stumm Nade from Zealot

[vestal rose]

they make a lil bit of space when your teammates scatter the horde, but otherwise
bleh

[jaunty atlas]

whut ? their nades are excellent what are you saying