and what felcom said
#psyker-class
kindred delta
burnt python
it only rolls on force sword if you're asking why not use on other weps
boreal wave
I swear if forward dash just dodged melee attacks it would make my game so much better
fossil snow
is it better to you it to close or would you want to tank the gunfire while your teamates get them?
fresh reef
man the knife is so cool
wish it wasn't outclassed by mk5 dueling sword in every way lol
lucid mortar
I like to walk forward, if it makes sense. It'll eventually force the mobs to switch to melee
but if there's like three reapers firing down a hall way you can't really tank all that for very long lol
dull saddle
Chad Veteran Fact: The purpose of Psykers is to highlight the heads of priority enemy targets!
keen belfry
You also save in a ton of Stam , let’s you turn into a dodging speed crab
fresh reef
Chad Veteran Fact: The purpose of Psykers is to highlight the heads of priority ...
unironically true, actually
boreal wave
The psyker's lot is an agonizing one.
dull saddle
Based.
fresh reef
if you manage to kill it before the bb goes off, great. if not, it's megadead because vet dps + bb
covert ermine
finally! deflector sword!
fresh reef
loving how this sword skin goes with the fashion
keen belfry
That damage when not charged is going to feel like you are slapping them with spaghetti noodles
fresh reef
that's every force sword though, to be fair
keen belfry
It’s not great with a 78% dmg roll
keen belfry
I do like that other blessing on it
covert ermine
this is why its better to carry it with a brain burst on hit perk
fresh reef
this is why its better to carry it with a brain burst on hit perk
or with purg staff so you won't hardly ever have to melee at all
fossil snow
oh shit that reminds me
Siblings, I play darktide really drunk so I dont really pay attention to how getting good weapons like
works
so I have this blue purg staff, its slightly weaker then another one with a so so perk
but the perk is that it lowers charge time on secondary fire hits
is that worth upgrading to gold?
it feels super nice
but I might be over imagining it
fresh reef
@fossil snow the cornerstone of good weapons is making this number go up
fossil snow
it stacks 5 times like immedialy is why I like it
valid marsh
Also
Stub revolver is the only weapon thats serves a purpose on psyker I've found
because it's immediately lethal
fresh reef
valid marsh
the draw animation is cosmetic
fresh reef
there we go, windows didn't wanna cooperate
valid marsh
it fires a soon as the game thinks you have it and it feels so good to dome someone after they catch you "off-guard"
plus its got good body piercing and is faster at taking care of specials than brainburst
fresh reef
I've been considering trying out revolver, given how potent AB can be
valid marsh
AB?
fresh reef
but that's a tough one, since I'd need either 6 warp charges to get good dps or bb on hit to supplement the lack of soulblaze
fossil snow
you guys take efficent play to a degree that confuses me
valid marsh
right
fossil snow
im not criticizing, im actually kinda impressed, its neat to watch
fresh reef
im not criticizing, im actually kinda impressed, its neat to watch
buildcraft is very fun
valid marsh
I feel like Psyker just needs some tweaks to a couple of existing feats and replacement of a lot of other feats
- dodge distance per warpcharge would be
so fun
fossil snow
buildcraft is very fun
buildcrafting is super fun, but I mean like the use this over this part
lucid mortar
theory is fun, but also it's secondary to skill in most cases with games like this
fresh reef
all the soulblaze feats need to have their stacks doubled, straight up
fossil snow
im big into the ''' if its fun I will force the game to let me do it if I can''
valid marsh
Soulblaze on lasgun headshots please 
fresh reef
Soulblaze on lasgun headshots please <:kinoEXTRA:980315101443809290>
warpgun 
ornate hamlet
buildcraft is very fun
build-minning is the new build-maxing. if u ain’t running damnation with sub-250 weapons, then what u doin!
fossil snow
exactly
fresh reef
build-minning is the new build-maxing. if u ain’t running damnation with sub-250...
that sounds so incredibly unfun lol
ornate hamlet
that sounds so incredibly unfun lol
not just for you but for everyone else in the group too
valid marsh
Also Kinetic flayer would be better if it was a buildup rather than simply a chance to happen
lucid mortar
see: any Ogryn weapon that isn't knife or power maul
valid marsh
shorter cool down + varying buildup depending on how hard you hit the target
and how much
fossil snow
I dont play above 4 though so im a weenie
valid marsh
so you can still brainburst without relying on just a chance
fallow meadow
I am getting there siblings!
fossil snow
god I wish brainburst was like
valid marsh
Faster?
fossil snow
just ON middle click
fossil snow
I wish you could freehand it
burnt python
you forgot harder
valid marsh
Useful on things other than the single sniper in god's ass crack?
fossil snow
thatd feel cool as shit
valid marsh
Because my revolver is better at killing most specials than my brainburst
kind of funny if it weren't so pathetic
fossil snow
yeah but if you could charge it whilst still swinging away or staff blasting or what have you
the tempo would go waaaay up.... I think
fossil snow
dunno if itd be better
valid marsh
I think we all know Fatshark thinks psyker is underperforming compared to other classes too
I swear to god I saw Zealot's feat tree and thought
fossil snow
risks of being the ''weird'' class
valid marsh
"I am sensing bias"
Because Zealot is fine
maybe a few useless feats
but those aren't common
same with vet
fresh reef
give biomancer subclass so we and our teams will literally never die
valid marsh
then you look at psyker and wonder "who came up with this"
white cedar
I never thought my flame build need 6 stacks until I played t4 😔
ornate hamlet
what’s the vet feat that just lets them kill everything instantly
fossil snow
so purg fire?
fresh reef
yup
fresh reef
love my clorox spray
valid marsh
Biomancer Subclass so I can impress the ogryn by crunching heretic skulls with my fist
fresh reef
ornate hamlet
matches the lightning of bb
white cedar
does it stack with Zealot fire?
valid marsh
Yes
fossil snow
has anyone noticed the wounds system is working well again? or am I crazy
valid marsh
two different DoTs
white cedar
neat!
fresh reef
two different DoTs
and quite pretty to look at, I might add
so long as you're a good distance away from the blinding effects
valid marsh
BURN IN THE EMPEROR'S (my beloved's!) LIGHT
fresh reef
today I learned that the seers are in direct commune with the Emperor himself
crisp storm
is force sword block a bit wonky? it feels like it comes up slow
valid marsh
I want an ogryn personality that's just farmer with thick southern accent
I would switch to that immediately
Can't tell me the South ain't in space
fossil snow
depending on what side of the chaos asscrack you're on you could say you're in the south
ornate hamlet
I want an ogryn personality that's just farmer with thick southern accent
he should say sneed
valid marsh
Shush
ornate hamlet
SNEED
near wyvern
I never thought my flame build need 6 stacks until I played t4 😔
If you use purgstus you don't need 6 stacks
I play T5
fossil snow
if you cant defend yourself
something something Cadia
valid marsh
white cedar
<:goldensmile:934535969984639006>
time for magic viking
near wyvern
<:goldensmile:934535969984639006>
runic current
is mind in motion any good with run and gun
near wyvern
is mind in motion any good with run and gun
You can't sprint and quell so there is no synergy between the two
white cedar
is mind in motion any good with run and gun
and it effect only primary attack
fallow meadow
It will be much better to just let you move in normal speed while charging.
raw breach
<:goldensmile:934535969984639006>
Decent stats, good penetration.
near wyvern
Quell speed should allow normal movement speed by default. Every other weapon has regular movement speed while reloading.
Mind in motion should be: "Allows the Psyker to move at regular speed when charging a force weapon or aiming down sights"
chilly cobalt
What combo want do with combat axe question mark
rancid burrow
You quell faster with a staff in hand I don't see the problem
The staff has its own specific buff for it
rancid burrow
What combo want do with combat axe question mark
Attack combo or loadout?
frail anvil
any tips for a begginer psyker?
static pine
You quell faster with a staff in hand I don't see the problem
that doesn't mean you move faster
static pine
any tips for a begginer psyker?
flee and never look back?
rancid burrow
no but the quell time is nearly instant
robust meteor
awkward
rancid burrow
and theres a perk to regen toughness with peril
near wyvern
Yeah but gun psyker needs a bit more oomph from the feats.
It's playable but there is not a lot going for it. Why give the class guns of there is nothing to enhance them.
static pine
the quell time is no faster than reloading normally
static pine
so you're still comparatively slowed when unable to attack unlike EVERYONE ELSE.
rancid burrow
its extremely rare that i run into problems with peril and its usually if im focused on head pop
robust meteor
i want to gamble upgrade some 20% hp curios but theres no way i can afford
rancid burrow
i should do some testing on rerolling
near wyvern
Or you can keep the peril and get the damage buff
Say this to the 4 gunners, 2 reapers, 2 crushers and 2 bulwarks that need to be dealed with because your veteran is under biggest supression of their life
rancid burrow
maybe per rank you can reroll
robust meteor
im not upgrading anything until it gets sorted out i guess
rancid burrow
At that point you've gotten into a situation that nothing could help you
robust meteor
fatshark can't make it worse, right?
robust meteor
fixed
rancid burrow
Okay I've got it
If you were to try to cherrypick your perk as a green you will never get more perks
You cant upgrade from green to blue and roll for another level 4 perk
only cost like 200 plasteel to test
neat trail
Is it just me or does psyker feel bad to play?
rancid burrow
It's polarizing
lucid terrace
Is it just me or does psyker feel bad to play?
What don’t you like about psyker?
rancid burrow
its way more polarizing than i expected
crisp storm
brain burst is just...clunky
prime horizon
i love it personally
a lot more involved than my first character, (zealot) though i also feel like i am less capable of clutching a bad moment
rancid burrow
brain burst has a little learning curve
you gotta learn how to use the right mouse
but all that matters really are warp charges
static pine
i like that when i play psyker, i wind up in a lobby with two other psykers, everyone has a CC staff, and then the beast of nurgle shows up
thx rng
cyan notch
just all bb it
lucid terrace
Quickplay moment
static pine
on heresy?
robust meteor
only cost like 200 plasteel to test
its an afterthought system apparently. now we have two different shop mechanics using the same currency that was already in the shortest supply
lucid terrace
^
wide quest
First 380 to appear in my shop
prime horizon
with the warp charge gain on coherency kill feat i don't bother to get warp charges through brain burst anymore, i just use it to pop some specialists or elites or whatever
neat trail
What don’t you like about psyker?
the melee style the psyker uses makes handling crowds so much more difficult
locking on brain bursts on a target in a crowd is hard
trying to cast aoe secondary with staff makes any damage you take cancel your casting animation
prime horizon
snipers especially
rancid burrow
^
near wyvern
any tips for a begginer psyker?
Don't get too attached to easily deleting all difficult enemies with Brain Burst.
Currently there is a bug when "living on the edge", if you hit 100% peril twice in quick succession you can't quell for a couple of seconds. When this is fixed you can again chain Brain Bursts by quelling to 97% and repeating.
Learn to block and dodge, you are gonna need it.
Surge = good vs armour bad vs flesh
Purge = good vs flesh bad vs armour
Void = good is you have the blessing transfer peril 2% or more (current max is 4)
Non-force weapons have a fast auto-quell. As long as you have one out you are gonna loose peril fast after the initial 2-3 second delay.
Kinetic deflection (lvl 20) feat is absolutely bonkers and makes you a god. You can just walk in and revive a team mate, especially if you have a force sword with deflector blessing (allows blocking ranged attacks).
If you have a non-force melee weapon and kinetic deflection, you can safely tank a Daemonhost. You just gotta dodge their attacks whenever you can so that the peril doesn't get too high. Duelling sword and combat blade are easiest for this due to their long dodge ranges.
rancid burrow
4% chance is actually quite high when you think about it
static pine
don't see much point in trying to persist an early run when you get something like that AND nobody who's free to handle the endless stream of poxbursters/trappers/mutants/whatever else it wants to send through this tiny area.
cyan notch
the melee style the psyker uses makes handling crowds so much more difficult
loc...
dodge sliding helps a lot with trying to bb and you can get focused channeling blessing so damage doesnt interrupt your cast
rancid burrow
im rerolling a purg staff to the point where i can reroll for free
near wyvern
Is it just me or does psyker feel bad to play?
It's a jack of all trades.
Not specially good in one thing but can get multiple things done, a bit like how druid was in classic wow.
lucid terrace
I like psyker because of swrod
wide quest
Is it just me or does psyker feel bad to play?
Feels nice for me after hundreds of hours
lucid terrace
Force sword and dueling sword are fun.
neat trail
It's a jack of all trades.
Not specially good in one thing but can get multiple...
veteran to me is jack of all trades and it does a lot of it well
crisp storm
huge portion of the class feels locked behind traits
rancid burrow
If you're comparing veteran and psyker in how you use them then you're using psyker wrong
neat trail
I'm not comparing
rancid burrow
the playstyle is completely differenent
neat trail
Just saying that veteran is way more useful
near wyvern
with the warp charge gain on coherency kill feat i don't bother to get warp char...
I use the 15% Ult cdr with purge.
The kinetic flayer and passive chance from soulblaze kills is enough to top me to 4 warp charges. Especially when I like to pop every gunner, trapper, bomber and sniper that I see
rancid burrow
i mean you literally just compared them there lol
if you have a good psyker on your team you're gonna think they're bad
near wyvern
the melee style the psyker uses makes handling crowds so much more difficult
loc...
Have you tried kinetic deflection?
rancid burrow
people just dont notice the elite kills
neat trail
That's level 20
neat trail
people just dont notice the elite kills
I do play with people that do, but I can just play veteran without the gimmick
near wyvern
That's level 20
Do you have a lvl 30 payker?
neat trail
no
I want to level my psyker but I just go play other classes instead because they're fun
near wyvern
Ok stop right there mate. Psyker needs all feats to work. You have to get to lvl 30, opinions formed before that are invalid.
The levelling process is a bit tedious but absolutely necessary.
warm delta
wdym other classes are fun, Psyker are the most fun class imo
neat trail
veteran is a fps with bolters and power swords
zealot is a hack and slash and has a flamer
ogryn makes you feel like a tank and you can charge hordes
psyker???
chilly cobalt
Attack combo or loadout?
Sorry went full retard used voice to text
Comboes For horde clear and against elites
prime horizon
psyker became super fun the moment i got the staff that shoots those balls that go right through hordes
near wyvern
So what @neat trail you mean is that the levelling process of a psyker doesn't feel good
And that is absolutely a valid comment since there are a lot of synergies that require lvl 30 to make the class play well.
lucid terrace
That does kinda stink.
prime horizon
hey i'm level 19 and having tons of fun >:)
lucid terrace
hey i'm level 19 and having tons of fun >:)
No.
rancid burrow
veteran is a fps with bolters and power swords
zealot is a hack and slash and ha...
Psyker has precise attacks with a more creative style
lucid terrace
The little psyker goblin in your brain is just telling you that.
neat trail
Other classes you can just have fun from the start
prime horizon
The little psyker goblin in your brain is just telling you that.
please, her name is "my beloved"
crisp storm
brain burst stacks are pretty hard to manage until you start getting more ways to gain them
robust meteor
does 10% revive speed exist?
lucid terrace
He’s gone too far.
near wyvern
veteran is a fps with bolters and power swords
zealot is a hack and slash and ha...
Psyker has ranged CC, can safely deal with any enemy even through supression and has the best revive in the game
rancid burrow
idk about 10
covert cosmos
i had plenty of fun with psyker before 30
bleak tulip
does 10% revive speed exist?
yes
crisp storm
BB right click is kinda silly (it just fizzles if bar isnt full)
robust meteor
rngesus pooping on me
covert cosmos
you def get a lot more staff uptime at high levels though
rancid burrow
Its meant for warp charges
Right click kinda bypasses people stealing those head pops
or if a vet gives you sight of an elite through a wall
crisp storm
right. if I try to trigger it and the bar's at 90%, it should just hold onto the charge?
bleak tulip
veteran is a fps with bolters and power swords
zealot is a hack and slash and ha...
if thats your takeaway maybe you just dont like psyker
rancid burrow
or hound/burster
rancid burrow
right. if I try to trigger it and the bar's at 90%, it should just hold onto the...
if you trigger any psy attack below 100% you will not explode
But you should just stop with the right click, I think thats the exception
crisp storm
not explode, you lose the windup though?
rancid burrow
oh yeah instantly
lucid terrace
If you wanna be a real boring psyker, run it with a recon lasgun. You get no evil balls, no fire, no lightning, no nothing, just sad death.
rancid burrow
its easy to if youre not paying attention
rancid burrow
Hell yes
fresh reef
what do you all think the most broken 60% stat from curios?
Love sniper resist tbh
bleak tulip
depends on the weapon, unarmored is pretty sweet on void to charge less
near wyvern
If you wanna be a real boring psyker, run it with a recon lasgun. You get no evi...
I found mk IV lasgun more enjoyable than the recon
Recon loses effectiveness vs elites and specials so fast
near wyvern
what do you all think the most broken 60% stat from curios?
Health
ebon wigeon
this a good staff? https://i.imgur.com/Zw8OJW4.png
robust meteor
sorry, meant perks
bleak tulip
blessings are ass unfortunately
ivory marsh
I want to level my psyker but I just go play other classes instead because they'...
wait for buffs
near wyvern
Hell yes
You do know that +% damage only applies to the direct damage component and not the soulblaze effect?
rancid burrow
Yeah
near wyvern
That cirt chance is golden though
bleak tulip
this a good staff? https://i.imgur.com/Zw8OJW4.png
I guess if you wanna abuse the machine gun left click you can get value out of sustain but otherwise the core staff is solid, the blessings are pretty bad
rancid burrow
The point isn't for soulblaze it's for crowd control
lucid terrace
I got a +17% max health, a +15% max health, and +12% toughness.
I must eventually become psyker ogryn.
rancid burrow
4% chance of a warp charge/kill
ebon wigeon
I guess if you wanna abuse the machine gun left click you can get value out of s...
im not even a fan of the staff
rancid burrow
There'd be no issue with soulblaze stacks
near wyvern
I must eventually become psyker ogryn.
20% block efficiency with max deflector? 😂
ebon wigeon
i can only get that gun or this gun
near wyvern
I guess if you wanna abuse the machine gun left click you can get value out of s...
Isn't the machine gun exploit gone since the peril bug exists?
bleak tulip
no
crisp storm
so yeah, BB windup (right click) is messy, stacks are... weird? unintuitive? before 25/30
vagrant barn
i can only get that gun or this gun
recon lazguns are fun as heck tho
ebon wigeon
i would rather not abuse any exploits
near wyvern
Interesting. So they tried to stealth fix it but instead ended up just fucking regular users?
burnt python
Interesting. So they tried to stealth fix it but instead ended up just fucking r...
it appears so
wish ppl on here would stop advocating bug usage, they just come back a few days later upset that they cant do it anymore
bleak tulip
bugs happen, if you keep it in mind its honestly not a big deal imo
burnt python
you are hamstringing yourself if you're using mechs that are obviously unintended
near wyvern
bugs happen, if you keep it in mind its honestly not a big deal imo
I used a combat blade as my melee already before the patch so whenever I hit the bug condition I just pull out the knife.
Annoying but still clearing damnation runs. Boss BB DPS has suffered a lot tho.
burnt python
dont get me wrong its 100% on fatshark that the issues exist, but if you are tryna get good at the game you are hurting yourself by abusing shit thats gonna get fixed
bleak tulip
psyker boss dps is ass anyway so I wouldnt worry about it
burnt python
tonight has been my most succesful night of rando damnation pugs, 6 success in a row
using axe & trauma
trauma feels very good when shit hits the fan
feels like it can save a bad situation in a way that other staves dont
except for maybe surge
near wyvern
psyker boss dps is ass anyway so I wouldnt worry about it
This is painfully true
bleak tulip
best you can do to bosses is FS charge repeatedly and that doesnt even work well when you cant stick weakspots like with assassination targets
plague ogryn sorta works but slug is just pain
near wyvern
trauma feels very good when shit hits the fan
Trauma has just so few uses before you hit 100%
burnt python
slug sucks to fight, just not engaging
crisp storm
so if I hit 100% when channeling a BB, I shouldn't fire it, right?
burnt python
Trauma has just so few uses before you hit 100%
it's a drastic difference if you partial charge, and that's what i mostly do
bleak tulip
dont start a channel over 97%
burnt python
i find it 100% necessary to use a non-fs melee w/ trauma to balance the peril
near wyvern
plague ogryn sorta works but slug is just pain
I found that if you have slug aggro with combat blade you can safely dance around it and keep hitting the weak spot from the side
near wyvern
i find it 100% necessary to use a non-fs melee w/ trauma to balance the peril
Oh that's for sure. I use combat blade with purge just so that I can quell while repositioning fast.
burnt python
Oh that's for sure. I use combat blade with purge just so that I can quell while...
purge is nice on this patch, i really hate not having a way to deal w/ gunners when running it tho
i value the left click projectile a lot
for suppression so i can gap close to use something better
bleak tulip
if only they fixed the delay already
crisp storm
and is there a write up somewhere of how the various stave right clicks work? I don't think it's very intuitive
near wyvern
purge is nice on this patch, i really hate not having a way to deal w/ gunners w...
I just BB them one by one. It's slow but gets the job done if there are no vets or he has is head in his ass.
burnt python
and is there a write up somewhere of how the various stave right clicks work? I ...
not that im aware of but if you have specific questions about em im sure we can help
bleak tulip
and is there a write up somewhere of how the various stave right clicks work? I ...
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/additional-in-depth-psyker-feedback-force-staves/59757 this sorta qualifies lol
crisp storm
does surge right click scale with channel time? or how does that really work
orchid nacelle
i guarantee next psyker class is gonna have a forcefield active
bleak tulip
not really a guide but you know
orchid nacelle
quote me on that
burnt python
I just BB them one by one. It's slow but gets the job done if there are no vets ...
i resort to the same w/ purge, with other staves i prefer to spam lmb to suppress while sprint/sliding in to force melee
orchid nacelle
if the next class for psyker releases and it has a forcefield ping me
burnt python
does surge right click scale with channel time? or how does that really work
damage scales and it goes from 6 targets to 8
crisp storm
is it dot or instant?
burnt python
theres a very small dot with an instant final hit at end of animation
final hit does probably 80% of dmg
burnt python
it does good dmg to flak armored guys and not much else
near wyvern
i resort to the same w/ purge, with other staves i prefer to spam lmb to suppres...
I have run n gun on my purge (trying to bake a better one). I do the same with it but only if I am playing on herecy. On Damnation I can't risk it that the 2 ranged on the back line won't get supressed. They hit like a truck.
burnt python
its more of a cc machine
bleak tulip
surge isnt there for damage really
burnt python
I have run n gun on my purge (trying to bake a better one). I do the same with i...
yeah damnation gunners are scary as hell lol
bleak tulip
the target limitation should be the giveaway that its a CC utility
if you want horde clear you got 3 other staves
wheat steeple
I mean it slaps armor
opal hearth
what is the preferred staff you guys are using now?
cyan notch
void
orchid nacelle
you'd think electrical damage would be way more effective against enemies in metal armour
burnt python
they are all viable with trauma being slightly behind in most ppls eyes
wheat steeple
It is >.>
opal hearth
cool, thanks man
burnt python
void is useful in the most situations
burnt python
purg has bigger drawbacks than void
bleak tulip
you actually have a ranged weapon with void
opal hearth
yeah been using void, looking for a good purg for the soulblaze
drowsy fog
been using purge since I unlocked it
burnt python
purg is probably better in a set team
bleak tulip
purg has the same issue as zealot flamer except you dont get a dash to get in
burnt python
idk tho pretty subjective, i like void a lot
crisp storm
what's the general strat to managing warp charges? just always be brain burstin?
amber nest
Man, why?
bleak tulip
what's the general strat to managing warp charges? just always be brain burstin?
get the talents that do it for you and dont worry about it
crisp storm
or are you looking for wrap charges from flayer?
burnt python
what's the general strat to managing warp charges? just always be brain burstin?
tbh mostly pretend they dont exist, take communion if you want
bleak tulip
BB for charge upkeep is a waste of time you should be spending on hordeclear and CCing
burnt python
i think flayer is a bit of a trap, i dont think its good at all
drowsy fog
if you're trying to get the penance yeah just bb for 5 minutes, spread out the bursts if you can to maximize time on them
otherwise forget you have stacks
crisp storm
gotcha. complete unintuitive but I think I follow
half iron
what is the preferred staff you guys are using now?
#PURGATUSSWEEP
amber nest
what is the preferred staff you guys are using now?
Voidstrike
burnt python
kinda just a miss on the balance/design, charges are supposed to be important but they arent
drowsy fog
yeah fatshark kinda dropped the ball on psykers
bleak tulip
gotcha. complete unintuitive but I think I follow
its just unintuitive because the leveling experience makes you rely on BB a lot, it gets to be pretty bad on heresy+
cyan notch
theyre nice for peril resist
bleak tulip
think of BB as a utility, not your main weapon, its a grenade slot for a reason
undone relic
you'd think electrical damage would be way more effective against enemies in met...
it actually is more effective against armored enemies, you can confirm in extended stats (examining surge staves with V)
burnt python
i think bb would have a very different reputation if it had damn breakpoints on other difficulties
its still good you are just kind of trained to misuse it once you step up
burnt python
i use it a shitload when i play on high difficulties
and i almost always run barrage to make it better
near wyvern
get the talents that do it for you and dont worry about it
Why so many care about the warp charges so much.
They don't help you that much to reach breakpoints and you are missing in amazing team utility (15% cdr on Ult for each elite kill)
amber nest
I wouldn't say BB is ever 'really strong'. It just does a lot of damage to a single target compared to the HP lower difficulty enemies have
half iron
Why so many care about the warp charges so much.
They don't help you that much ...
more fire
burnt python
yeah i agree, bb isn't super strong it just kinda fills a gap in your kit that you dont have to specialize for with weps
crisp storm
idk my other class so far (vet) tries to play around his class abilities...? so warp charges being weird and difficult to manage feels wasteful on design
cyan notch
I wouldn't say BB is ever 'really strong'. It just does a lot of damage to a sin...
that is really strong early on
bleak tulip
anything BB does a bolter does better tbh
amber nest
No, it's not
cyan notch
ok i dont agree
crisp storm
also how do you target a sniper or whatever who's out of LOS? just point at him and the BB will lock on?
burnt python
anything BB does a bolter does better tbh
naw they do completely different things
amber nest
It's still a single target ability that takes a while to go off
cyan notch
u can have your opinion doesnt affect me
burnt python
also how do you target a sniper or whatever who's out of LOS? just point at him ...
try to get the tag on them, bb will prioritize tagged specials
feral crater
BB you can lock on and hide around a corner. That's my go to anti sniper. Never use if for ANYTHING else though. Too slow
burnt python
yeah bb is at its best when corner peeking
bleak tulip
also how do you target a sniper or whatever who's out of LOS? just point at him ...
BB has a bias to lock onto elites and specials, its a bit finnicky but it should work unless the sniper is behind a railing or some shit
burnt python
start bb and dodge slide into cover
bleak tulip
I just shoot a void shot at snipers, still faster than BB
crisp storm
start bb and dodge slide into cover
is this left click or right click bb?
feral crater
o.O
near wyvern
also how do you target a sniper or whatever who's out of LOS? just point at him ...
You gotta see a glimpse. Having it tagged helps. Bind dodge and jump to different buttons, hold left click while jumping -> sometimes you need to do this if they are behind a cover and you can only see a little portion of the head.
feral crater
left click
burnt python
is this left click or right click bb?
left click, it doesnt lose tracking on los, you just gotta get the channel started
feral crater
Right click is just a precharge without target locking
teal needle
Just slipping in to remind everyone that all opinions are not equally valid
burnt python
tbh i never use right click bb, evver
feral crater
I used right click at low levels to prep for mutants...
amber nest
I only ever use right click BB if I know a Hound or Burster is about to round the corner
feral crater
Now I have decent staves, no need
near wyvern
Just slipping in to remind everyone that all opinions are not equally valid <:KE...
Agreed.
Like the one guy stating psyker is shit without levelling it to 30.
wise pecan
by the by, anyone up for helping me suicide bomb some elites?
burnt python
usually if i know a muti/hound is coming im just prepping to melee em
crisp storm
well if a class 'feels bad' pre-30 that's a design flaw
bleak tulip
fun fact: learn to interrupt them and then just melee dogs, they take 3x melee damage
covert cosmos
i used right click a lot in malice, and never in heresy+
burnt python
psyker def has a lot of design flaws in its current state lol
its still powerful but in ways that seem somewhat unintended
near wyvern
well if a class 'feels bad' pre-30 that's a design flaw
That means the levelling process is bad, not necessarily that the class is bad.
teal needle
Yeah Psyker's good but there's a pretty long list of stuff that should be different
feral crater
Psyker feels okay as soon as you get a non trauma staff. Staves are really strong
crisp storm
why do decent staves make things easier? easier quell?
amber nest
The problem with levelling a psyker is having to rely on the shop to give you staff options
drowsy fog
^^^
feral crater
Trauma is the only really difficult one
drowsy fog
increase staff odds in the shop
feral crater
Lasguns work decent in the interim
cyan notch
u can just use guns all the way in uprising
drowsy fog
tired of shops full of guns
amber nest
Took me two weeks to get a Purgatus staff better than the one I got at level 14
teal needle
why do decent staves make things easier? easier quell?
A Voidstrike staff with peril transfer basically refunds peril on cast. A really efficient surge staff is leagues ahead of a normal one. Perks and traits make a big diff for purgatus too
bleak tulip
why do decent staves make things easier? easier quell?
there is nothing as good at killing hordes than a psyker with a void, you basically just delete a line of them, as an example
purg is the same but close range and in a bigger cone
burnt python
not gonna lie psyker with mg xii feels really solid even tho theres close to 0 useful feats for the setup
drowsy fog
purg is my baby
burnt python
it allows you to horde clear w/ melee & deal with all specials/elites with gun & bb
amber nest
not gonna lie psyker with mg xii feels really solid even tho theres close to 0 u...
That's more due to the weapon, really
burnt python
and you get a legit answer to gunner squads
teal needle
Void strike handles gunners surprisingly well. Obviously not gun well but adequately
feral crater
I feel like the weapon options are team dependent. If you got a zealot running flamer, doubling down on flame is subpar. If you don't flame is best staff
burnt python
doesn't really fulfill the fealing of playing a psyker tho
feral crater
Utility over all
burnt python
Void strike handles gunners surprisingly well. Obviously not gun well but adequa...
i agree
altho i wish charged void suppressed
why does it not???
lil lmb tiny baby fireball supresses
large ogryn sized charged fireball does not
teal needle
Yeah it's kinda dumb you gotta pop off a few primaries to get suppression...
bleak tulip
I mean you dont want em to scatter with charge
you want em to keep coming to bunch up
amber nest
Can't wait to get rid of the soulblaze stacks on this one
teal needle
"Oh they're throwing huge ass fireballs? nbd." "OH SHIT PSYCHIC BASEBALLS EVERYONE TAKE COVER NOW"
burnt python
i want to be able to kill 1-3 in a line and suppress the rest so i can force melee
feral crater
Delayed suppression? Like have the rear end of it suppress anything that lives
bleak tulip
anyone that doesnt die gets knocked over anyway
amber nest
And yes, that staff made me love playing Voidstrike
burnt python
anyone that doesnt die gets knocked over anyway
the explosion is tiny
undone relic
altho i wish charged void suppressed
at a guess, is cause it has an aoe boom to it.. suppression is more about continuous fire on an enemy, cause of its namesake anyway
bleak tulip
the explosion doesnt matter
teal needle
You also have to aim the fireball poorly to get the explosion to connect
hidden coral
Can't wait to get rid of the soulblaze stacks on this one
Hey um hi can you pass that over here?????? Promise I'll give it back 👀
burnt python
they only get staggered if they get hit by explosion or the proj
amber nest
The explosion is situationally useful to get targets in cover
bleak tulip
they only get staggered if they get hit by explosion or the proj
yes, and I am talking about the projectile, anyone who doesnt die to it falls over
teal needle
One thing that rules about Voidstrike though is that if the enemy is cowering under cover the fireball is so thicc you can shoot it just a hair above the cover and it will clip off their head
burnt python
yes, and I am talking about the projectile, anyone who doesnt die to it falls ov...
ya im saying i wish enemies outside of that hitbox got suppressed like they do by lmb
burnt python
im only talkin bout suppression
amber nest
you can throw the projectile over cover
Doesn't work on corners though. That's why the explosion can be useful, though usually it's just whatever
undone relic
next staff idea tho, rapidfire bolt staff
bleak tulip
ya im saying i wish enemies outside of that hitbox got suppressed like they do b...
and im saying that would work against the staffs effect, you want them to run into the funnel instead of stopping and spreading out
runic hornet
Doesn't work on corners though. That's why the explosion *can* be useful, though...
it definitely does?
if there's a guy doing his "take cover at corner" pose
burnt python
and im saying that would work against the staffs effect, you want them to run in...
naw they dont funnel in like that, once you aggro they just turn & shoot
would absolutely be better to suppress
bleak tulip
I think were talking about different things here
burnt python
im just mad charged void doesnt suppress and am ranting at this point lol, i'll let it go
teal needle
Psyker needs a boltgun staff to be able to do what they were advertised to do
bleak tulip
charge void isnt really what you ideally wanna shoot at gunners, I am talking about hordes
bleak tulip
if void charge also had suppression it would fuck up the horde clear
coarse basalt
im gonna use the lightning staff in a lights out mission
runic hornet
if void charge also had suppression it would fuck up the horde clear
honestly if you want to suppress
bleak tulip
ideally you'd wanna left click guns, only right click to hit em behind cover
runic hornet
just chuck LMBs
bleak tulip
yeah
runic hornet
LMBs are insanely suppressive
coarse basalt
give myself a seizure
runic hornet
Like what the fuck suppressive
advance toward gunlines just throwing orbeez
I didn't believe it until I tried it
bleak tulip
yeah its pretty clear that the void bolt is the anti ranged tool of the void staff, its just a shame they made it have that annoying delay that makes it just frustrating to use
runic hornet
it's less consistent if they're doing "stand in open while shooting" but if their behavior is "take cover, and shoot when safe"
amber nest
Most left clicks are way better at CC, right click tends to be the damage option
runic hornet
it works
amber nest
Works the same for a Zealot's flamer. LMB is stagger, RMB is damage
undone relic
purge staff is about the same then
runic hornet
purge hothands is great
but embracing surge/void/trauma lmbs while moving really improved my play
bleak tulip
quell cancel LMB made it a lot more bearable
hope they remove the delay before they fix it
runic hornet
you can kill lone enemies, you can suppress rifles, you can stagger ragers that are still running and then combo into your melee (so you don't have to use a full surge/trauma on them)
bleak tulip
underappreciated fact, void bolt intentionally does more dps against lone enemies while also suppressing things around the target
people just dont use it much because its sort of annoying to use because of the delay and slow ish travel time
like, youll kill a rager a lot faster with lmb
amber nest
Yeah, but my RMB charges fast enough and as a bonus it keeps travelling to maybe hit something behind the rager
bleak tulip
ragers tend to eat right clicks
amber nest
Which, if shot at head height will quell more of my peril
bleak tulip
yeah if there is a horde in front of the elite or special thats obviously taking precedent, thats why I specified against lone enemies
amber nest
Fair, but for some reason I find the LMB way harder to aim than the RMB
runic hornet
it's the delay
bleak tulip
^
amber nest
Yeah, probably
runic hornet
rmb is charge->the moment you click lmb it goes
lmb has this goofy delay
before the shot leaves
it's far more difficult to "snapshot" it especially on a moving target
drowsy fog
alright siblings much as I love you all I've finished all the psyker penances, I must migrate to zealot chat for a time
idle shuttle
alright siblings much as I love you all I've finished all the psyker penances, I...
i too have moved.. to ogryn though
drowsy fog
I'll probably do ogryn 3rd
lethal plover
but embracing surge/void/trauma lmbs while moving really improved my play
biggest source of suppression against gunmen
don't even aim. just spam the little fireballs
idle shuttle
first target doesnt apply to the rest of them does it
just first
and yeah that thing got cucked with 26
but it had brutal on it already
cyan notch
needs more testing
burnt python
i've gotten 250-260 on my last 3 damn runs
cyan notch
just got 110 for uprising
burnt python
heresy usually around 200 so 170 is prob about right
260 seems like a lot tho, highest ive seen and ive seen it 2 out of last 3
silk flax
Do malice speed runs. Each run is like 15-20 minutes as long as you explore fast and mow everything down
magic burrow
I find malice the most fun personally. Not too easy, not too hard. But running higher difficulty can be more fun if you're looking for more of a challenge.
dawn orchid
Rate the new staff I crafted
teal needle
I'm enjoying heresy a lot but if I need to complete matches to do my weekly contracts I'll just run Uprising or Malice. Because you never know what pugs you're gonna get
cyan notch
pretty good
teal needle
I had some real quality whiplash this evening in Heresy actually. First game had this idiot with character name Adolf (
) who went down repeatedly and talked shit and the whole game was basically the entire team bagging on him while everything was harder than it needed to be. Second game was smooth as butter, "gg best team I've been on tbh"
bright wind
Level 26 is something better than this liable to come along? or nah?
burnt python
you'll find better
teal needle
Level 26 is something better than this liable to come along? or nah?
The base stats on a weapon can go up to our even slightly over 380. That weapon by comparison only has 300 base stats
bright wind
Good to know
long stump
bright wind
i figured but i wasn't sure this close
Also Tricket stats i've been leaning toward HP can you get wounds as a secondary?
night marten
mild canopy
Did they fix surge vfx, i wake up every morning asking that
cyan notch
n
near wyvern
Did they fix surge vfx, i wake up every morning asking that
Nope, check #📢news-bulletin for that
mild canopy
guess we purging and voidstaffing
dreamy lava
Think it's worth spending 2.8k marks on this staff? Can it be considered an upgrade?
static epoch
hell no, do you use it for damage?
You will probably have higher consistent damage using warp nexus
runic hornet
i fail to see what is better about left staff
right staff looks better in every way
warp nexus and don't dis run and gun
jaunty atlas
somebody understand how souldblaze stack ? i deal ridiculous damage with it and purge staff seem to be a bullet in the foot
runic hornet
I have learned the power of "spam LMB while running towards gunners"
don't even need tohit
static epoch
Don't worry about your surge or upgrading it. You can put on a very very bad one and hardly tell a difference if you primarily use it to stun.
idle bay
So... 8 hours of farming to get comfortable number of crafting mats, few consecration and.... you fell like wasted those hours on crappy rolls you get not even worth re-rolling.
dreamy lava
Errr I use it for everything really, both damage and stun since I just play in public lobby
idle bay
Trying to get +4% ability regeneration and +10% block efficiency + Corruption resistance on all 3 curios is very.. time consuming
static epoch
Took me 3 minutes
jaunty atlas
you need to block that much ?
static epoch
If you have the curios to roll on it's just a matter of luck and rolling lol
jaunty atlas
all i really want is shotgunner resistance
i want to tank their pellets with my gums
static epoch
so you won't suicide using deflector? 😄
static epoch
it will come in handy if it works and you plan on using that
mild canopy
I actually like the refine option, costs very little plasteel which everyone has a ton of and it becomes free after a while so you can just reroll infinitely
patent hatch
all i really want is shotgunner resistance
Just gotta get that kinetic shield
patent hatch
I’ve bought like 10 haven’t got it
runic current
i wasted too much crafting matts
patent hatch
I’ve just given up on deflector lol
runic current
i just hope that the 2nd blessing is good
jaunty atlas
i have it, feels like shit
patent hatch
Honestly it doesn’t matter
mild canopy
I didnt try it yet but the FS special attack just feels too good, i constantly use it on bulwarks ragers and such in heresy lol
With dueling sword can tank demonhost though...
patent hatch
I just don’t like being locked into the animation
runic current
going to test it on 2 or 3
patent hatch
With dueling sword can tank demonhost though...
👀
runic current
what
mild canopy
Dueling sword 2 with feat that gives peril on blocking, you can just block and create peril, F when 90-100%, constantly dodge with block up because dueling sword has a good dodge with block up and your peril naturally goes down
patent hatch
Tbh you@can do that with any non force weapon
More the perk rather then a specific weapon
mild canopy
Cant do it with FS T_T i tried and got killed in 10-20 secs
runic current
oof
patent hatch
Yeah every weapon apart from FS and dagger it’s nutty
mild canopy
The FS block gives me like 40 peril or something idk why
mild canopy
Damn
patent hatch
I mean it can be good with it but not for super tanking
quietide, Kinetic Deflection and axe is my fav for tank
robust meteor
i should just play darktide
patent hatch
Yes
robust meteor
this is a very tame ss
patent hatch
What game?
robust meteor
low shard
tired of shops full of guns
The emperor gave my psi 10 guns in a row! thanks, emperor
gray island
quietide, Kinetic Deflection and axe is my fav for tank
im been prefering the mk dueling sword lately the doge distance is 2 op
mild canopy
I sold all my guns from inventory except the revolver, only staffs
robust meteor
doesn't it show what game i'm playin?
patent hatch
im been prefering the mk dueling sword lately the doge distance is 2 op
It’s nice af tbh, just doesn’t work with the block to well
mild canopy
im been prefering the mk dueling sword lately the doge distance is 2 op
And the horde clearing in malice feels so good with it, heresy a bit harder more slices
patent hatch
I switch between Knife Dueling Sword and Chain Sword
gray island
And the horde clearing in malice feels so good with it, heresy a bit harder more...
i've been using it with purge on t5s, its more for mobility and solos
mild canopy
Is the chain sword special good enough for elites compared to FS?
patent hatch
Is the chain sword special good enough for elites compared to FS?
Yeah it does good damage
Problem is it’s a longer animation
but at the same time
It’s about 20x cooler
mild canopy
I love the eviscerator tbh
patent hatch
Same
mild canopy
Only play zealot for that and the hammer
patent hatch
I wish I could get it on Psyker
mild canopy
Wish my psyker would just steal an eviscerator from the weaponry same
gray island
It’s nice af tbh, just doesn’t work with the block to well
idk mine blocks pretty good
gray island
thats what these are for
gray island
im broke on plasteel so i feel that
hushed swallow
which perk should i look for when i replace 8% critical hit damage ?
gray island
which perk should i look for when i replace 8% critical hit damage ?
id aim for unyeilding personally
mild canopy
A 4 diamonds one
jaunty atlas
i cannot really test it but a peril explosion is somewhere around 1k5 dmg in damnation no ? is it worth it to weaponize it if you're safe ?
hushed swallow
id aim for unyeilding personally
thx
mild canopy
i cannot really test it but a peril explosion is somewhere around 1k5 dmg in dam...
I used to explode a bunch with surge during harsh hordes and do a tactical clearing, but putting the team at risk if doing it too much
jaunty atlas
more on boss i meant, you know, you have a phase where a horde comes, with armored ragers and such, a single explosion can pretty much reset this phase
i did it two times i feel like it's worth but i cannot really see the dmg
mild canopy
In the assassination mission hordes keep coming though so i wouldnt recommend
The hitbox is also a bit janky sometimes yea
I explode near elites sometimes and i feel like it doesnt even hit them
jaunty atlas
hmm.
river sand
Dont do it. Explode is rather short range and low dmg and you're down after. 2 charged void or trauma have the same effect
river sand
Its a punishment for reckless usage of your abilities not a tool of destruction
jaunty atlas
EVERYTHING IS A TOOL OF DESTRUCTION FOR MY BELOVED
hem.
yes.
i'll try more that nonsense of a weapon in the meantime. maybe i'll understand the whole thing
mild canopy
God give me your diamantine bro, imma give you 3k plasteel in exchange
jaunty atlas
right on
vagrant cedar
15% block eficiency quite nice
why would you roll it without getting the other perk
what if it's worse
low tulip
literally just got my first blaze force sword with deflector.... and it's a fucking meme
that depressing damage lol
frail merlin
I hate the psyker
torn root
hmm that smells like bait
frail merlin
Once she's rank 30 I'mma jump to Veteran
robust meteor
thinking about selling this one
low tulip
psyker is cool, but every patch kills us a tiny bit
low tulip
thinking about selling this one
why? it's amazing @@
tired estuary
thinking about selling this one
full agree, doesn't have 100% in every stat
grizzled iris
robust meteor
garbage. sell
wise pecan
god, pugs can be the most frustrating shit sometimes
robust meteor
i put in my time. i deserve it
wise pecan
had a group just now that were just... completely incompetent, apparently? one guy was dying every 30 seconds whenever there were enemies on screen, and the other two acted at about 25% speed
grizzled iris
Imagine
imo only worth running Deflection if you get 20% block efficiency and run it on all curios as well
wise pecan
all level 30
worn canopy
Yeah but it’s worth it
robust meteor
sword
wise pecan
thought "anything else" was referring to the weapon, not the difficulty
light quail
duelling sword is an odd one
i like it but its hard to get a feel for
feels a lot weaker than the other weapons
probably the audio
wise pecan
i don't see the point in using dueling sword
robust meteor
theres no point in using it over axe unless its a ds mk5
wise pecan
if you want good dodges, force sword has infinite
light quail
tbh it should have had a laspistol variant alla saltz rapier
get that commissar energy
river sand
chainsword + bolter in each hand
light quail
chainsword + bolter in each hand
eviserator + bolter for ogryn
chainsword boltpistol for everyone else
river sand
going full space marine, losing stamina with every step so you have to stop and take a breath every 5 meter
surreal needle
Man i think i just found the funniest thing, the heavy laspistol has a very minor shove that usually only hits one target... for 9-10% peril per shove
It can push jumping bursters tho-
tired estuary
heavy asspistol
surreal needle
It has no reason to exist, the lowest damage high ammo lasgun has more damage and about 500 more reserve bullets
light quail
It has no reason to exist, the lowest damage high ammo lasgun has more damage an...
deadass they should give it higher AP and dmg at the cost of short range
hella dmg falloff
I think it'd find a good niche for zealot with those buffs
surreal needle
Or just like... give it more ammo? like tons more
If it, like that lasgun, can have 850 reserve ammo id actually like the thing
cyan notch
tell that to revolver
surreal needle
If it could oneshot regular poxwalkers and had good ammo id actually like the thing for Psyker since it fits a build focussed around using your ability, as bad as it is
stuck bridge
fatshark be like "solo a boss with your shitty low damage brain burst"
cyan notch
yes
light quail
fatshark be like "solo a boss with your shitty low damage brain burst"
daemonhost and a shieldgry buddy
let the lobby know you're going for it
it is easy
surreal needle
I just wish i could not use a staff for once in my life, they are fun for the first 50 hours but after that they are just lame
stuck bridge
daemonhost and a shieldgry buddy
let the lobby know you're going for it
it is ea...
yeah i know but it's just unbelievably boring
cyan notch
use gun then
light quail
yeah i know but it's just unbelievably boring
it is :(
stuck bridge
im getting more and more jaded
light quail
pick & mix is hellish
light quail
I feel ya
I have a lot more fun on ogryn or vet than I do on psyker
stuck bridge
yeah im running vet more and more
a force sword w/ deflect showed up though so i wanna snag that
light quail
I mix my classes up a lot with zealot being the only outlier
played enough vt2, had my fill of a predominantly melee class
surreal needle
I switch between Veteran (easy mode) and Psyker, every time i play Psyker i just wish it did more? The staff is the only way to feel semi competitive but they are boring as hell and brain burst feels like youre actively making yourself worse unless youre fighting a bulwark with an incompetent team
glass thistle
Anyone have server problems at t4/5? I was like always 4001 at t4+, but t3 is fine
light quail
I switch between Veteran (easy mode) and Psyker, every time i play Psyker i just...
BB not oneshotting most specials on heresy+ is bull
mfw hounds can survive a BB. Makes me want to run the extra dmg on a BB'd target but then I lose passive warp charges
shut thorn
I switch between Veteran (easy mode) and Psyker, every time i play Psyker i just...
Engage cowboy mode
glass thistle
@shut thorn more like chaos macros
robust meteor
I switch between Veteran (easy mode) and Psyker, every time i play Psyker i just...
when im playing well my group is s'ing my d clutch stun, push back, rez, etc
light quail
Engage cowboy mode
damn
all those movies weren't lying about turning your gun sideways
shut thorn
<@156097457707548673> more like chaos macros
More like I'm sick of the management at fartshart drip feeding content to manipulate steam store algorithm
worn canopy
Gun psyker sucks
shut thorn
Gun psyker sucks
Las pistol qq is highest dps rn, every staff is shit
Peril "bug" was an early "fix" to cancelling because they were too stupid to understand how it works
worn canopy
How exactly do you get highest DPS on las pistol
glass thistle
@shut thorn https://youtube.com/watch?v=knua8qZGPeA&feature=shares
Not the void strike
shut thorn
How exactly do you get highest DPS on las pistol
You can fire it every 20ms for 400dmg w/ a good roll
glass thistle
But no pena, no carap damage
worn canopy
Peril "bug" was an early "fix" to cancelling because they were too stupid to und...
Are you sure it’s intended
shut thorn
<@156097457707548673> https://youtube.com/watch?v=knua8qZGPeA&feature=shares
No...
Why aren't you cancelling into a horde
hidden coral
You can fire it every 20ms for 400dmg w/ a good roll
Right, but a voidstrike fired into a horde is doing thousands of damage in an instant on top of CC
worn canopy
I’m assuming it’s the “I can’t quell for some reason” bug going on rn
shut thorn
The devs shit themselves when the patch was about to drop because we were all spamming vids of busted staves
Which is why they delayed it
shut thorn
I’m assuming it’s the “I can’t quell for some reason” bug going on rn
Yes, it's their earlier attempt at fixing 100% peril bypass
worn canopy
I don’t even use the 100% bypass
shut thorn
I don’t even use the 100% bypass
It's gone
summer prairie
las pistol qq doesn't seem nearly as good when you are actually playing on a server due to lag
worn canopy
Because the connectivity to their servers is bad as is
summer prairie
plus it's out of ammo immediately
surreal needle
Tbf on lower difficulties, 3 or lower, laspistol psyker is a fun playstyle, use shitty pistol to headshot any ranged enemy while brain burst insta killing most specials and then die to a basic group of poxwalkers and blame your team
summer prairie
honestly even with scripted qq it's not great
shut thorn
honestly even with scripted qq it's not great
Are you using a bad roll w/o rending or smth
Thing deletes elites like no tomorrow rn
summer prairie
yes and also deletes your ammo
shut thorn
boohoo, there's an ammo box every 20m
glass thistle
No penetration still hurts
worn canopy
I still use the peril quelling to put out flames at rapid speed
worn canopy
But it seems like the burn build up is worse
shut thorn
No penetration still hurts
void/purg win on horde clear, which isn't even that important if you just have an antax or literally any other class w/ their horde clear melee
surreal needle
The laspistol on Psyker is the best way to commit suicide so far with how bad the push is, just start shoving air and explode
worn canopy
Relying on the shove on a pistol is just as bad
shut thorn
Relying on the shove on a pistol is just as bad
this, literally why would you use the shove
vagrant cedar
<@156097457707548673> https://youtube.com/watch?v=knua8qZGPeA&feature=shares
No...
you could have had wiped that wave so much easier if you jsut attacked and didn't kite for 90% of time
shut thorn
you can switch to a melee and do far more
worn canopy
Dodging is OP also
glass thistle
@vagrant cedar I am presenting the infinity block on pskyer
surreal needle
Its useless unless youre in a situation where you have a burster jumping at you... which only happens if your team is bad anyway
vagrant cedar
<@285208881695817731> I am presenting the infinity block on pskyer
oh
glass thistle
Also just for fun
vagrant cedar
it is good but kiting like that aint efficient at all if your whole team is up
worn canopy
I think it’s gonna be peril on block
surreal needle
Staffs definetly need a nerf too, they make psyker feel almost useful
worn canopy
True
shut thorn
I wonder what they’re gonna try and nerf next
surge drunk vfx on by default regardless of loadout
worn canopy
We can’t have psykers feel like they do anything
I was running damnations and I forgot how terrible brainburst is, without that ability I have nothing to use against most specials besides bumrush and beat to death with my hands
shut thorn
It's a shame that FS has retarded marketing in control of the game
glass thistle
Zealots are true chaos lords channel
surreal needle
They should also just remove voidflame like as a concept, ive seen people have fun with that once
Cant have that
shut thorn
The reviews are going to keep tanking because those 'individuals' don't realize that forcing people to log in at x time, delaying crafting to inflate numbers, nerfing progression speed, etc do raise game popularity, but only temporarily
all this delaying of features is so they can manipulate the steam store prior to xmas
worn canopy
I had to solo like 4 ragers on damnation and a horde of what felt like shotgunners. Wiped them all and then got killed by a hound.
They need to nerf peril on block because I shouldn’t have solo’d that situation and been alive to begin with.
Also is it just me or do hounds feel like they are tracking even stronger now
I couldn’t push them to interrupt them nor sidestep
Hit marker on the shove also
shut thorn
Also is it just me or do hounds feel like they are tracking even stronger now
It's because the tickrate on servers is lower lmao
surreal needle
I always feel like Psyker weapons are the only ones i can shove hounds with
worn canopy
Only the force sword for me
surreal needle
There are other weapons for Psyker?
worn canopy
I run cutlass because I have yet been blessed with deflector
Knife is also great
Those are the only three weapons that exist to me
shut thorn
There are other weapons for Psyker?
antax mk v, dueling mk iv/ii, rest idrc abt
worn canopy
Someone in here swears by the axe but
surreal needle
I absolutely love the knife ngl, its incredibly good for horde clearing which you wouldnt expect
shut thorn
Someone in here swears by the axe but
most ppl do
worn canopy
I tried it and I did not like it
cyan notch
i swear by fs
shut thorn
antax is busted on psyker due to lack of stam requirement
worn canopy
Maybe it’s the wrong type but I don’t wanna upgrade one
cyan notch
axe does not look cool
people dont even like the asthetic of axes
they just use it cuz its good
worn canopy
I absolutely love the knife ngl, its incredibly good for horde clearing which yo...
Fastest peril quell over time
When peril quell speed was “bugged” I switched to knife for a bit
shut thorn
they just use it cuz its good
sadly this
vestal finch
I loved using the knife to slide around everywhere and run way ahead of my team
worn canopy
I gotta give the antax a try
vestal finch
Then they ruined it
worn canopy
What number is it
shut thorn
What number is it
mk v, use block push combo attacks
worn canopy
Ah I have the one that’s like
shut thorn
you basically cannot take melee damage
covert cosmos
devil claw is good if you need a melee with horde clear
shut thorn
Antax is full dmg on block combo
Iirc
Or close to it
And has extra stam
You cannot die in a horde w/ it out
worn canopy
I think high stamina weapons are pretty bad because of the stamina charge rate being lower
formal glade
They are absolutely not bad lol.
shut thorn
I think high stamina weapons are pretty bad because of the stamina charge rate b...
You pair it with peril block
shut thorn
antax mk v is sadly BIS melee
worn canopy
I wonder why the devs just won’t let people have fun with their classes
shut thorn
even tho the gameplay of it is like watching paint dry
shut thorn
I wonder why the devs just won’t let people have fun with their classes
oh they do, just not psyker
it's because they don't want to be accused of favoritism towards psyker
covert cosmos
i've had no problem having fun with psyker
worn canopy
someone on the design team hates the psyker or something
shut thorn
so they go overboard with 'normalizing' it
covert cosmos
i enjoy it more than vet and ogryn
shut thorn
which ends up making psyker shit
shut thorn
someone on the design team hates the psyker or something
other way around, it's that psychological effect where someone tries to avoid favoritism but goes too far
forgot the name of it
Consider that psyker is on the front of advertisement 24/7
surreal needle
Its not really good but i always have fun brain bursting an incoming horde for some warp charges, side dodging while using a knife then halfway through using the ability with the flame skill, taking along a gun to kill ranged enemies in the mean time and using brain burst just to stun hounds or snipers
worn canopy
You think they’ll ever make the psyker good like it used to be
vestal finch
someone on the design team hates the psyker or something
No one ever bothers to make the mage characters actually good
They just make them look pretty with cool effects
cyan notch
i dont mind it force sword is cool staffs are cool headpop is fun
shut thorn
You think they’ll ever make the psyker good like it used to be
I don't want to muddy the results so not gonna comment ngl
I would prefer if psyker was more of a glass cannon instead of being just glass inside a reinforced box
worn canopy
Honestly I think we wouldn’t have as many people running qq techs and peril quell techs if the class wasn’t being slapped every patch
shut thorn
The reason people ran 100% peril bypass on surge was because it was actually fun, it made surge enjoyable, granted it was the highest dps wep at the same time if done right
shut thorn
And another staff
or yknow, if they buff trauma
surreal needle
I just feel like they arent sure what they want the psyker to be, its both a glass cannon, an AOE class while also having tank abilities with a very mediocre single target ability to highlight targets for your veteran
worn canopy
or yknow, if they buff trauma
It’s just so not good
worn canopy
reminder that they forced a junior dev to take flak for the trauma dmg stuff
What lol
worn canopy
Every patch we get stealth nerfs
shut thorn
What lol
Yeah they got a dev with like 20~ days of experience in the company to p much respond to the trauma dmg stuff instead of the senior devs owning up to their fuck up
classic
covert cosmos
meanwhile purge staff master race gets stronger
worn canopy
What the hell where is that
worn canopy
Also I like flame staff
surreal needle
Wasnt trauma the straightup AOE staff? Just make a circle that explodes?
covert cosmos
yes
vestal finch
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/trauma-staff-doing-less-damage-than-indicated...
Didn't they say the bug was just visual?
surreal needle
I always thought that one was the most fun to use... but it just feels bad?
shut thorn
Wasnt trauma the straightup AOE staff? Just make a circle that explodes?
in closed beta, yes. Then it's dmg got stealth nerfed but the old stats remained in the V thing
vestal finch
So it being shit is "intended"
shut thorn
Didn't they say the bug was just visual?
it did proper dmg in closed beta
lol
now trauma is just the stagger staff
worn canopy
The trauma staff is the first walking stick you get to introduce you to peril
shut thorn
like its useful but god
surreal needle
I played veteran in the closed beta since my group already had 2 people fighting over who got to be the Psyker lol
shut thorn
with quell cancelling you can use trauma offensively
vestal finch
It is fun to throw enemies around
shut thorn
with quell cancelling you can use trauma offensively
but void is straight up just better
surreal needle
I always felt like trauma has a bigger impact on large hordes with the stumbling, gives your team with actual proper weapons and abilities more time to set up
runic hornet
trauma damage is fine
worn canopy
I don’t like that for the flame staff to stagger you cannot stagger enemies on the edge of your reach but you gotta be like 3 meters away.
runic hornet
if it were stronger it'd be busted
The damage is stronger than rumbler from ogyrn and vet frags, by a HUGE margin
solar loom
Psyker was powerful but kind of stupid in the beta, because all you did was spam brainburst, and quelling was so damn slow that the only way to use a lot of powers was to constantly hover at 100% and just squish the cost.
worn canopy
Eh
runic hornet
after perks you one-hit helmet dregs on damnation
the chonkiest "trash mobs" with 450 hp
worn canopy
I think people who only play brainburst have the wrong idea
shut thorn
rumbler/vet frags don't even come close
vet has other weapons
runic hornet
explosives on damnation only wound and CC
solar loom
Well, currently there is no point to playing brainburst only, that's for sure
runic hornet
the trauma pie-plate instantly deletes, and this is valuable
worn canopy
Also you have a very small radius and outside of it it’s just throwing them into your team
surreal needle
I think people who only play brainburst have the wrong idea
Wish that was still a viable option though, just for the people who actually like that
Some days i feel like going brainburst only
shut thorn
Well, currently there is no point to playing brainburst only, that's for sure
you shouldn't anyway, it's your utility, not your main weapon
worn canopy
I use brainburst often for specials but
shut thorn
That's like playing ogryn for the grenade box only
runic hornet
Also you have a very small radius and outside of it it’s just throwing them into...
Put it this way I stanned the conflag staff in VT2 and trauma is a strict improvement with massive damage
worn canopy
So if you’re playing psyker you’re playing for the staff.
solar loom
That's my point though, in beta Brainburst was your main weapon because it just outperformed every other weapon in the beta for damage against carapace armored enemies.
worn canopy
The occasional sniper pick off
runic hornet
That's like playing ogryn for the grenade box only
you can carry an antax and it does work
your melee DPS contribution is not insignifcant just because you are not ogyrn/zealot
trauma playstyle is "an antax user who sprouts 2.5 supercharged grenades every 10 seconds"
worn canopy
The grenade box is more consistent than a brain explosion
surreal needle
Granade box is more fun too ngl
runic hornet
on heresy and lower grenades will kill groaners, and poxwalkers inconsistently
worn canopy
Yeah
shut thorn
you can carry an antax and it does work
your melee DPS contribution is not insig...
I'm talking about people who incessantly use brainburst instead of any staff or other ranged
surreal needle
Nothing beats granade box
runic hornet
on damnation grenades literally bounce off of poxwalkers much less melee scabs
trauma deletes huge swathes of them. twice every 10 seconds
worn canopy
Yeah
solar loom
I mean, grenade box has a max count of wo uses and is single target aimed. It better be damn powerful.
runic hornet
yeah the biggest argument against is opportunity cost
surreal needle
The more im reading, the more i feel like how they handle higher difficulties is the issue rather then the abilities
runic hornet
an ogyrn with a rumbler still does massive group CC