psyker-class

[pure peak]

is your FS using Peril

or stamina

???

[olive ember]

Peril blocking

its called using the shove

or the F

[rancid burrow]

That's when it starts costing stamina for block

[olive ember]

or just dodging

[rancid burrow]

There is a limit

[remote tusk]

I find mk5 axe more useful partly due to how busted the block attack is, especially on psyker. You can smash your way through a horde reliably and take out specials within the blob that are giving your team trouble when shit has hit the fan. FS is better at elite killing quickly, but there is something about being able to horde wade safely while continuously doing damage that is hard for me to give up. Your mileage may wary ofc. Not looking to convert anyone.

[pure peak]

You can block using Peril

[analog juniper]

the FS push alone is good to get through a horde

[cyan notch]

you can still do fs push

[rancid burrow]

You're not actually invincible. It feels like you are, which means on high difficulty you can get punished HARD getting cocky

[pure peak]

HEck you have 2 pushes

[rancid burrow]

Light attack, heavy, block push, repeat

[pure peak]

Wrath and FS push

[glass thistle]

@olive ember but a non force weapon can quick swipe to a aoe rod and do high value dps and quick swipe back to melee

[fallow meadow]

Dueling sword can be use like axe but less killing power. It give you good speed in return

[analog juniper]

I feel like that axe will get nerfed cause even the dmg it does s unusual, plus that might be the fastest block attack in the game

[remote tusk]

agreed

[analog juniper]

just seems mega busted

[uncut hamlet]

2 psyker weapons in my entire shop, both under 340. I love the requisitorium

[tired cosmos]

Anyone know if fastest way to get from 20-30 is lvl 2 assassination missions quick runs. Or is there better way? When I run pickups if I go higher it seems I get matched with people who die and we end up losing the map

[olive ember]

If you have an AOE rod why are they getting that close to you anyways :/

[pure peak]

i dont see the need for Speed

[daring mural]

Mk5? Thx for advice

[glass thistle]

Melee never as effective as range attacks as pskyer, because you use time at moving , unlike zealot have dash

[olive ember]

and you can quick swipe to an AOE rod regardless

[hoary warren]

[rancid burrow]

Because Heresy+ is a different game

Nice man

[uncut hamlet]

I personally just always go as high of a difficulty as I can personally manage for fun, so I'm not sure on the best way to level

[pure peak]

situational. Sometimes open ground they get close

[uncut hamlet]

I know they increased rewards for higher levels

[daring mural]

Not 380 base stats, trash.

[olive ember]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1052983903520047184/image.png

[pure peak]

or no rear guard so you have a hound or two coming from azz.

[olive ember]

I play Heresy

[glass thistle]

Use force sword special just too dangerous at T5

[uncut hamlet]

but im not sure if it outweighs the speed of lower levels

[fallow meadow]

That is your choice in this case. Moving fast can be very handy though.

[olive ember]

It really isn't

[pure peak]

ill use just carry stave or bare hands and run around

[olive ember]

I play damnation and heresy with FS and I do just fine

[uncut hamlet]

crazy how people use it safely. They must be cheating

[hoary warren]

YO WHERE U GET THAT HEAD PEICE

[fresh reef]

here's part of a thing I made. I also have a panel with examples
How do you guys think we could improve progression?

[uncut hamlet]

lv 3 penance hat

[pure peak]

and that dualing sword looks ugly on my outfit

FS

is smexy

[analog juniper]

same here, plus, 90% of the time I'm the one killing the mutant fast

[olive ember]

complete every psyker penance, including "beat every mission type on heresy+ as a psyker" and "complete like 150 games as psyker"

[glass thistle]

@uncut hamlet it just like use Rev at T5, lock you up into a unmoveable situation, and the damage is so bad

[pure peak]

SPEAKING OF WHICH there is a nice FS skin in shop

i go buy

but freken 2400 aquila

[cyan notch]

wdym nice fs skin

[rancid burrow]

@fresh reefI think the image needs to be bigger to accomodate for a "table of contents" with those descriptions. It's very hard to read at a glance. Good info though

[pure peak]

[leaden pier]

anyone else here finding psykinetic's wrath not pushing whatever you're facechecking?

[pure peak]

There is a FS in the cash shop

ksin

[lime gorge]

tfw you realize those stupid markers are account wide and do absolutely nothing to help you figure out what mission you have yet to complete on your second toon

[echo parrot]

Warp Absorption or Quietude.

[uncut hamlet]

yea but its crazy how some people do it safely and use it effectively at T5 isnt it? Almost like it's perfectly viable?

[pure peak]

maybe ur too far

?

Lag

[glass thistle]

FS special just so bad, even the TH charge is bad enough @uncut hamlet

[olive ember]

they are account wide + they only started tracking from the update, so any missions you did beforehand don't count lmao

[analog juniper]

do not rely on that push for the CC. It's for venting, fire or to make BB faster

[rancid burrow]

And saving yourself if you're gonna explode*

[pure peak]

also if you hit the FS onto the charger before it hits you

cancel out his charge

[leaden pier]

well it helps with poxbusters

[analog juniper]

Ah yes, doing 2k dmg is very bad, lol

[pure peak]

[fresh reef]

it was mostly just to give the math on the factors,
here's the proceeding panel

[uncut hamlet]

absolutely insane that people use it well then, damn

[olive ember]

Its inconsistent and you gotta get a feel for it tbh

I still use the push for CC but

[glass thistle]

@analog juniper a Evisc swing on mutant is more than 2500

[leaden pier]

heck ive even had the fs push do nothing while facechecking a poxburster

[rancid burrow]

Yeah that looks good obviously a in game example would be better

[olive ember]

Don't really use it for actual CC, more like a "get off me" button

[pure peak]

I have never been grabbed by a mutant after I FS animated his face.

[rancid burrow]

But for a concept its great

[pure peak]

canceled

[rancid burrow]

You gotta dodge the grab still

[uncut hamlet]

an evisc also cant deflect or have infinite dodges or infinitely push

[analog juniper]

Are you going to try and claim that Evi is faster than the FS?

cause its not

[rancid burrow]

It will win if only the strike lands and not the blast

[fast swan]

hey quick question, do gunners and shotgunners coutn as elites? for the penance?

[uncut hamlet]

it also swings slower than fs

[uncut hamlet]

yes

[leaden pier]

yea i dont use it for cc, mostly for venting peril or spending my stacks with acendant blaze

[pure peak]

tbf i dont know how to dodge i just walk tot hte side

[uncut hamlet]

essentially anything you can ping

[fallow meadow]

Evi take forever to finish anything.

[fast swan]

wait i thought those were classified as specialists

[glass thistle]

@analog juniper on mutant EViC dps is always better than FS tho, just side dash and cut, no Rev just heavy

[olive ember]

Gunners, shotgunners, ragers, maulers

[rancid burrow]

You wanna dodge sideways when his right (in your eyes) arm starts moving

[olive ember]

though if you are talking about penances go for shotgunners and gunners yea

[pure peak]

how do u side step

[rancid burrow]

And then heavy attack his back

[pure peak]

anyways

lmfao

[uncut hamlet]

You know what, you're right. I'm gonna start running an eviscerator on my psyker. Have you seen one in shop lately?

[pure peak]

lvl 30 and can't dodge

[rancid burrow]

Hold the button in the direction you want to dodge, then press space

[pure peak]

i just jump

[rancid burrow]

You need to learn how to dodge

[pure peak]

[uncut hamlet]

cant be holding w

dodges are only sideways or backwards

[pure peak]

been playing with out it

[uncut hamlet]

diagonally backwards too

[pure peak]

i see

i shall try more

[uncut hamlet]

on what difficulties

[rancid burrow]

You've been playing at a MASSIVE disadvantage lol

[pure peak]

end game conent

this is why i die

[uncut hamlet]

lv 4/5?

[pure peak]

yesh

[uncut hamlet]

yes

[rancid burrow]

trial by fire

[uncut hamlet]

Thats why you die

[rancid burrow]

that is why you die

[echo parrot]

that is why you die

[pure peak]

Thats why I rely on FS so much

[remote tusk]

I changed jump button to alt, so space is for dodges only

[pure peak]

cuz fo the defensive abilities

lol

[uncut hamlet]

you're basically throwing away all your mobility

one of fs' benefits is that it has infinite dodges

[pure peak]

i feel stupid

[analog juniper]

If you cant use the FS effectively it's a skill issue tbh, cause you arent going to convince anyone the FS isnt good at applying big damage or that the ability to block bullets and block with peril instead of stamina is bad.

[uncut hamlet]

and you dont get to utilize that either

[pure peak]

i go practice dodge on Fs

[echo parrot]

Bring a knife into a high intensity mission. You will learn to dodge really fucking quick.

[rancid burrow]

@pure peakim gonna write up a long thing on the FS and dodges for you

[pure peak]

Dodge use stamina correct?

[fallow meadow]

I didn't start dodge before like lv25 too. Just try to use it more and you will be fine.

[rancid burrow]

Yeah

[analog juniper]

Dodge is free

[uncut hamlet]

@glass thistle Have you found any evis on your psyker in shop yet? how long did you wait till you got yours?

[pure peak]

i not even dodging even at lvl 30

[glass thistle]

I never understand why ppl think infinity dash is a thing, a lowest mobile knife do better dash than that infinity dash on FS

[uncut hamlet]

Dodging stop stamina regen until you finish dodging, but doesnt use anything

[echo parrot]

Knife dodge is broken, you can literally just circle around a horde trimming them down without having to worry about being hit.

[olive ember]

Honestly the two weeks of vermintide before darktide early access rly teaches alot of things, I thought dodging was second nature

[pure peak]

why would i use a knife when i can use a magical sword anyways

[remote tusk]

dodging while blocking is like 70% of my damnation experience

[uncut hamlet]

The knife also does less damage. And cant block bullets. And cant stop elites.

[pure peak]

Its like do I use a puny hooman made knife? Or do I use a warp magical sword that the emperor and primarch uses

[analog juniper]

you can also do that with a FS. Additionally, your knife cant block bullets

[uncut hamlet]

Your argument for every aspect of why the fs is bad is "x can do this better", which is intended because no weapon is supposed to be the best at everything. The evis is slower, the knife does negative damage, the TH has no cleave, etc

[olive ember]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/KS0bX9HJ4GCJF/d1337IgVqfwu?invite=cr-MSw1cTYsNDg2MDU3NTUs

[fallow meadow]

Moving fast is actually a very good thing.

[olive ember]

This was pre movement tech nerf btw

[pure peak]

You can litterly just FS Warp down block and switch to stave real fast fire off and switch back

repeat rinse

[uncut hamlet]

Even if you were theoretically right, @glass thistle, no one would believe you because you're absolutely terrible at getting your points across.

[abstract frigate]

No deflector

[uncut hamlet]

no solid arguments

[cerulean beacon]

How do you deal with shooters on Heresy+? I swear I peak a corner and even if my allies are in front of me I get shot by 9 out of 10 lasguns

[pure peak]

and have the emegercy F button

[analog juniper]

knife movement has always been good, knife on psyker though? Heresy

[olive ember]

some people run it, if they can make it work good on em other wise

[analog juniper]

almost as heretical as the gun psyker

[glass thistle]

Let’s say when you facing 3 melee elite, how could you use the FS finish them together, and your quell build up so fast you can just run

[faint sigil]

"are you saying I'll be able to dodge bullets?" "i'm saying that when you're ready, you won't have to. you can block them instead with your force sword" "thanks morpheus, i love you" sloppy kissing noises

[echo parrot]

FS dodge distance modifier is a negative number even at %80 where my knifes is +12.50. I dont really have issues with ranged as I either just dodge the shots or kill them myself from a distance.

[pure peak]

I dont think you can be grabbed during FS animation

or i havent seen it happen

[uncut hamlet]

Dont peek corners first as psyker

[olive ember]

you stagger 2 and then kill the third?

its not that hard

[remote tusk]

I started tier 1 missions being afraid of ogryns and bosses, I ended up with tier 5 missions being afraid of regular dudes with rifles.

[olive ember]

^^ double bulwarks still are a bit scary

[glass thistle]

And when you use FS special on a elite, a vet or zealot just one shot it before your animation ends

[fallow meadow]

Regular dudes with rifles are OP!!

[echo parrot]

Everyone acts like FS with deflector is the best of any interaction, when the deflector is really just a safety net. Its extremly handy, but not a requirement by any means.

[olive ember]

Wats your loadout? As a surge I'll charge, peak out, unleash, and go back into my corner to hide

[analog juniper]

JFC
When will you stop moving the goalposts?
Push all the elites with F, charge, kill one, use FS push to push the 2nd, charge and kill the 3rd, backdash, change and kill the 2nd. GG

[uncut hamlet]

what fucking veteran is doing 2k damage in one hit? a thunder hammer?

[pure peak]

the deflector is offensive and defensive

increases peril = more damage

[uncut hamlet]

I mean, if force sword can't deal with every situation conceivable, is it really a good weapon? Every other weapon is good at everything after all, right?

[echo parrot]

That doesnt invalidate my claim.

[analog juniper]

Says the person using the Knife as a kiting safely net, lmao

[uncut hamlet]

its good and probably bis, but not required

[echo parrot]

You know what else increase paril? Shooting with your staff.

[analog juniper]

these discussions are funny

[pure peak]

FS has crowd control too

[cerulean beacon]

After this mission I'll post

[rancid burrow]

This is exactly how a room of psykers probably would talk to eachother

[pure peak]

[rancid burrow]

Just less chaos spawn

[stoic shuttle]

Can the block on psyker sword block gunner fire?

[rancid burrow]

yes

[remote tusk]

at least we have moved on from the 'my stick is best stick' civil war

[stoic shuttle]

sick

[olive ember]

You are correct on a technicality but you also have to consider what the alternative weapons are and it boils down to hordeclear vs utility. Every other class can hordeclear, deflector FS brings utility

[rancid burrow]

w/ blessing

[stoic shuttle]

aahh

[olive ember]

you need the "deflector" trait otherwise no

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1053454438494384149/image.png

[uncut hamlet]

Looks like an XII hitting every headshot as fast as possible? you gonna hit a mutant running perpendicular to you at max shots/sec with poxwalkers on you?

[rancid burrow]

@olive emberYeah you keep flexing that

[echo parrot]

Thank you for actually bringing up a valid argument as opposed to being getting all defensive. Its a rare deal.

[rancid burrow]

:,((

[pure peak]

We litterly stated all the utilities it brought

[uncut hamlet]

ignoring the fact that vet has other things to shoot too. Like shooters.

[pure peak]

for liek the past 20min

[rancid burrow]

I've been in this server for like an hour and psyker talk is just nuts

[glass thistle]

better use a non force weapon and keep the mobile on the chara, auto quell and do more DPS asap, at least for me

[remote tusk]

look at this heartbreaking thing. Only deflector I had for weeks.

[rancid burrow]

it seems like people argue over points we agree with

[olive ember]

That damage roll is

[echo parrot]

Same, the non-force weapon quell is great.

[olive ember]

oof

[pure peak]

In any case all weapons gud

lets agree to disagree

[cyan notch]

LOL

[uncut hamlet]

keep it to take its blessing for the future

[glass thistle]

because the biggest weakness of pskyer is they need to slow down when quell, auto quell counter that

[uncut hamlet]

No one has argued against this except Cary lol

[rancid burrow]

I wanna emphasize that the FS's deflector isn't just a "Psyker Tank" butto." it allows it to tank like hell

but it's not meant for it

[pure peak]

Meh

[uncut hamlet]

that is definitely not the biggest weakness

[devout belfry]

Been busy maxing the other classes. Any interesting meta builds?

[pure peak]

As a FS mainer ill keep it

i dont need no auto quell

[rancid burrow]

I use it ALL THE TIME

[echo parrot]

Nothing wrong with continuing to use it

[pure peak]

my peril is 50+ 24/7

[warm delta]

your biggest weakness solved with just one feat

[echo parrot]

Just annoying when people go "no FS deflector? wow trash."

[uncut hamlet]

For psyker? I run warp battery with ascendant blaze and purge staff. Fun asf

[glass thistle]

you shouold try to keep up with top zealot and vet teams, pskyer just got no time to rest

[pure peak]

No we were just explaining it was good

it was the other person that was saying FS is bad

[uncut hamlet]

sorry, I didnt know you were training for esports already?

[glass thistle]

you drop your def with this weak feat

[rancid burrow]

Or, you don't see the psyker doing their job

[pure peak]

You got it backwards

[remote tusk]

autoquell has good synergy with the perk that allows us to regen toughness with quell

[uncut hamlet]

Let me know when you enter a tourney

I'll cheer you on

[pure peak]

Tbh you have a team why you trying to solo the entire game

[olive ember]

to be fair running mind in motion is kinda E

[pure peak]

[echo parrot]

Why would you take that feat to be able to run while quelling when you can just swap to a melee and sprint while quelling automatically.

[olive ember]

its nice QoL while leveling but past that its

[echo parrot]

Plus you miss out on the peril block feat

[olive ember]

so is kinetic shield tho

[rancid burrow]

I cannot go back to a non-deflector force sword. it's one of those things where opinion is forced lol

[analog juniper]

worst feat to use

[olive ember]

I'd argue better than kinetic shield tbh

[analog juniper]

wat

[pure peak]

gud

[analog juniper]

just quell with the staff

[olive ember]

mind in motion lets you avoid damage outright, the 33% toughness reduction blocks like what... one extra shot?

[pure peak]

^^^

Quell on staff too

[echo parrot]

Sometimes I pull out my FS just to try it out every now and then but I am a knife girl at heart

[rancid burrow]

@warm deltai went with that at first but no, Flayer is the best imo

[glass thistle]

and dont forget you can force enemy to hit you and gen toughness autoly too

[echo parrot]

Which is funny because my FS is my highest rated melee

[rancid burrow]

It's pretty much a promise of consistent warp charges

[teal needle]

I own over 25 five swords. Zero of them have deflector 🙃

[analog juniper]

and free 1k dmg

[pure peak]

Kay someone tell devs to give us invulnerability during FS warp animation

[warm delta]

flayer is like lvl 25 feat tho

[rancid burrow]

I genuinely don't even think of that

[olive ember]

I tested it out, mind in motion is noticeable even with staff out, and to me the move speed of it is better than the toughness dmg reduction, but peril blocking is just 👌

[uncut hamlet]

One of the biggest problems with your arguments is that your points keep changing. When one point is countered, you stop arguing it and start arguing on another thing. "Not enough damage, too slow, bullet blocking is useless, quelling is slow, knife has better mobility, evis has better dps". You constantly spout bs instead of taking the time to consider that we're not saying fs is the best weapon. It's simply a good one, and not at all bad like you assume. Even the best weapons like the XII have drawbacks

[analog juniper]

dont worry you'll get one eventually

[pure peak]

i want to take zero damage during FS special

[glass thistle]

with non force melee, you can abuse AI to help you gen 30 toughness pre sec

[olive ember]

you can with thie simple trick "press F"

[pure peak]

Fam i use that alrady

to down the horde

to get to that elite

[olive ember]

charge, press F, hit elite, dodge spam backwards, profit

[rancid burrow]

lol you're always vulnerable on the offensive but with deflector and all perks you are effectivelly at 0 damage

dodging too

[pure peak]

This wasnt valid because i never learned how to dodge

till now

[rancid burrow]

dodging isnt pushed enough

@pure peakhopefully the dm helps

[pure peak]

yas

c:

[echo parrot]

I really wish the FS dodge was better, I would use it more if it was.

[olive ember]

I mean if you really want you can turn around and sprint backwards XD, just be prepared to turn around again to block the magnetized enemies

[echo parrot]

It is unlimited, but like I said earlier, negative distance modifier.

[teal needle]

I'm having so much fun running around and being a knife pervert on my vet I just log in to my psyker to visit the shop for force swords and then enchant those force swords and then be sad when they're all executor or whatever. I'm getting pretty close to just skipping the "play psyker" step

[analog juniper]

it's not that bad

[pure peak]

doenst work cuz

i noticed the pox is faster than u running

[analog juniper]

just not 2km like the knife or duelling sword

[echo parrot]

Its pretty bad when you prefer the distance of a knife or a DS.

I dodge like crazy

[remote tusk]

the mobility is addictive

[uncut hamlet]

It doesnt have the same range, but those weapons are built for mobility so its expected

[rancid burrow]

Ideally on psyker dodging is only to gain space to charge an attack

at least for me, using the surge staff

[pure peak]

if i wanted to use knife or some random sword i would have been a zealot anyways

[glass thistle]

and i duno how many bullet a FS can block before it reach crit quell at T4+

[rancid burrow]

then cleaving with the fs

[rancid burrow]

A lot.

That's all you gotta know

[gray stone]

Block efficiency is your friend.

[rancid burrow]

I don't know the number

[uncut hamlet]

Another random point you bring up instead of replying to my earlier comment.

[echo parrot]

Even a devils claw with a %60 modifier has a +1.0 distance.

[rancid burrow]

but ive done revives i shouldnt have been allowed to lol

[pure peak]

i pway pskyer for psyker abilities

therefore the FS

[echo parrot]

Meanwhile my FS with a %73 modifier

Unlimited dodges is nice though

I wont deny that

I just prefer distance

[pure peak]

seems someone prefers to run away

[remote tusk]

we're all allowed to have personal preferences without having to be locked into a cagefight to see what is objectively best

[pure peak]

Heresy

[rancid burrow]

@remote tuskthis is the imperium of man

no

[olive ember]

but but

[glass thistle]

dash recharge just so fast, infinity become not a advantage

[olive ember]

with trash endgame this is how I pass my time

Arguing about the games meta instead of actually playing

[echo parrot]

Not running away, just hitting them while dodging so that they cant hit me back. I rarely even have to block.

[echo parrot]

Agreed

[jaunty atlas]

you might love psyker channel

[rancid burrow]

Hey im filtering you all out to see whos worth playing with

totally not ignoring the game on the other monitor

[pure peak]

i play with friends or pay randoms to play roles for me to cover my weakness anyways

if i over peril a ogryn comes save my azz

[remote tusk]

anyone up for a 4x psyker damnation run?

[uncut hamlet]

How do you think ppl prepare corpse starch in universe? Bread? mash potatoes? soup?

[glass thistle]

its like others stack stamina recover, in a point theres always stamina to block

[pure peak]

i refuse to eat that shiet

[uncut hamlet]

Thats unfortunate. I guess youll starve to death and get turned into corpse starch

[rancid burrow]

In a hive city probably just in a plastic wrap like arbys, and its cut off like arbys cold cuts

[echo parrot]

I am not worth playing with. I use a knife on damnation.

[pure peak]

Space marines dont eat that stuff

and primarchs don't

[rancid burrow]

Space Marines eat the flesh of xenos

for that intel

[pure peak]

nvm

[uncut hamlet]

too bad youre a member of an inquisition warband, who do eat that stuff

[remote tusk]

and their own recycled waste

[uncut hamlet]

just a block of nutrient paste? eww

[analog juniper]

I was playing but I stopped cause the people in the mission were not meleeing the shield of the captain and instead all backed up shooting and we wiped. This was on my lvl 17 ogryn, and every one else in the mission was higher level

[rancid burrow]

Btw that's how arby's meat is made

It's literally jelley meat that is sliced

It comes in a plastic bag

[olive ember]

Level means nothing yeah. I just assume my teammates are bots until proven otherwise

[echo parrot]

Deliscious roast jelly meat

[uncut hamlet]

Even on T5, 4 people meleeing take down the shield in a dozen seconds tops. Idk why people refuse to do it

[olive ember]

They might not know tbh

[rancid burrow]

Level means a lot on psyker imo

[olive ember]

also some ranged weapons are decent against shields like the flamer

[rancid burrow]

if you dont have deflection you're at a huge disadvantage

[glass thistle]

as pskyer you can just use a normal melee and tank the assassin boss forever

[rancid burrow]

youre not useless but very weakened

[spiral remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/animals-with-captions-salami-cat-kitten-cute-kitten-tiny-cat-gif-25121733

[olive ember]

can do that with literally any weapon with peril block

[analog juniper]

I was playing ogryn my g

pls read

[uncut hamlet]

idt he can honestly

[echo parrot]

I dont feel very weakened. I die more trying to rely on deflection than I do just dodging with my knife.

[glass thistle]

ogryn is more easy, use the one target heavy regen toughness

[pure peak]

Grox, snow ox, amino porridge, caba nuds crispabread (BREAD)

k there are lots of foods besides startch

[analog juniper]

[pure peak]

me no starve

[ornate hamlet]

Dude they need to rework psyker im tired of dealing with it being ass and now a new bug made it so i cant chain brain bursts as well

[uncut hamlet]

Definitely. Just not food you can get on a hive world

and the characters in game have referenced eating corpse starch

[glass thistle]

and weapon with chain hit regen toughness too, ogryn is good at that

[uncut hamlet]

meaning our entire warband does

[remote tusk]

sounds like some upper hiver nonsense

[rancid burrow]

Relying on deflection is how you survive, not thrive. Not having that specific perk makes it harder to survive @echo parrot

[uncut hamlet]

fr

[pure peak]

amino porridge is what space marine eat

[rancid burrow]

Hopefully that makes sense

[pure peak]

ill go steal from deathwatch

[olive ember]

To be fair chaining BB is an E moment

[pure peak]

[rancid burrow]

You want to rely on the FS block only when necessary

It's not a crutch

[ornate hamlet]

So much fun thi

[pure peak]

"Amino-porridge is a nutrient-dense food eaten by Space Marines"

[echo parrot]

I agree if you are specifically using a FS without deflector, but if you arent using a FS I disagree.

[ornate hamlet]

Tho

[uncut hamlet]

I feel like every psyker "buff" has just been a bugfix

[pure peak]

Yeep stealing from inquisitor space marines

[olive ember]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B36Ehzf2cxE&list=PL7326EF82122776A9

[rancid burrow]

Mmy force sword has deflector

[echo parrot]

So does mine

[rancid burrow]

9/10 times I get arrogant with the peril toughness and a crusher will take me out

[echo parrot]

I just dont like it

[rancid burrow]

trying to clutch

[olive ember]

I mean....

Thats kinda a skill issue XD

[pure peak]

so more importantly

when do they change out the cash shop

items

every week?

[rancid burrow]

Of course it is

[ornate hamlet]

Fuck sake GIVE ME LUCK PLEASE GAME

[uncut hamlet]

thats a nice sword

[rancid burrow]

That's also a skill issue that's intuitive

[uncut hamlet]

no

[olive ember]

cash shop? oh I'm a broke ass who could barely afford darktide I forget that exists tbh XD

[pure peak]

the nice stuff is in der

[echo parrot]

Meanwhile this is what I actually run.

[pure peak]

what when

[pure peak]

Steel imperium guard armor is there rn

btw

[olive ember]

Why else do you think I was desperate enough to actually do all the psyker penances

[remote tusk]

I'll send u an ugly hat as my yearly gift to the poor

[rancid burrow]

i was never interested in cosmetics

[analog juniper]

You need bleed on non-weakspot hits instead of riposte

[olive ember]

one of my friends is a vet main and yeah every match is with a steel legion lol

[rancid burrow]

im checking out the shop now

[pure peak]

Heretic

[uncut hamlet]

Its in their most recent patch notes, theyre not planning on swapping them for a while, and allegedly theyll come back at some point after cycling out.

[pure peak]

you play mmo but no buy outfits

[olive ember]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1052983903520047184/image.png

[pure peak]

soudns like a male thing

[olive ember]

Drip is endgame

[pure peak]

[echo parrot]

I know, ill be swapping that one out when that ability is unlocked, assuming I dont get a 380 between now and then.

[olive ember]

and yes I play FFXIV free trial. Been 3 years (since 2019) I am still using the shire set

[rancid burrow]

Sounds like someone who doesn't have 2500+ hours in another mmo

[echo parrot]

God I would love a 380 knife with %80 mobility

[rancid burrow]

where he's literally purple

name engraved in the nexus

[echo parrot]

Should consider changing the skin to a different one. I love surge but hate the big block.

I am a fan of the purg longboy myself

[cyan notch]

use void

[uncut hamlet]

love me some good purging

[olive ember]

Its more so identification because I sometimes forget to change loadouts and in the loading screen I'll be like "hey i'm about to run the trauma staff on heresy, lets change that"

[echo parrot]

Ahhh fair enough

[rancid burrow]

I'm looking through some of the penence rewards and yeah they're cool but not cool enough

call the choas police on me

[night marten]

the psyker penance rewards??

[uncut hamlet]

T3 psyker and vet penance are elite

[rancid burrow]

I just did a quick sweep of them yeah

[echo parrot]

Goggle gang rise up

[analog juniper]

Dont like the goggles

[night marten]

always the grey hood/face mask

compliments heresy armor really well

[olive ember]

those are teh maxed out penance sets for each class basically

except the zealot doesn't make you bald anymore

[uncut hamlet]

Wish ogryn had carapace armor

[uncut hamlet]

as pence

[rancid burrow]

I think this is fine

[ornate hamlet]

my current sword

[rancid burrow]

I don't look like I just got sent off to morrowind

[echo parrot]

There is an alternative color for the psyker T3 that has an all black hood and gold trim. Nobody knows how the hell to get it.

Really wish the fish would throw us a bone

[olive ember]

huh what

[analog juniper]

images?

[olive ember]

how can you tell me this

[echo parrot]

Ill try to find them again, they are hard to find

[rancid burrow]

I didn't know there was an entire damage spreadsheet built in

that's amazing

[static pine]

... I really want the Redemption Raiment. This is going to suck; I only play at times where using a microphone isn't an option, even if I had one suitable for games. ~_~

[static pine]

my deflector sword is stuck at like
250 power
give me another one already, not the thing I got at level 10 xD

[rancid burrow]

Oh man it even gives per strike damage in combos

There's some min-maxing to be done

[echo parrot]

I cant find them, I fucking wish I had saved those images..

[pure peak]

ya know i wonder if this game is like they put shop item and you cant rebuy after it goes away

that would be kewl

like this one another game

[rancid burrow]

Well you get 20 drops a week

so maybe

[pure peak]

premium cash items

i mean

i wasnt specific enough

[magic hull]

can i hv it

[echo parrot]

How to piss off every other psyker in a pug.

[cyan notch]

why

[ornate hamlet]

mines similar but with a different helmet

what helmet is that anyways

[echo parrot]

The impact is that you are wearing the very last tier but with prison clothes.

[cyan notch]

i dont see how others would be pissed

theyd be wow thats funny

[echo parrot]

You would be surprised.

[cyan notch]

and give it no more thought

[echo parrot]

Farming psyker penances changes you

[cyan notch]

why would they be angry though

they know how hard it is

if anything theyd be impressed

[soft prawn]

sibling why do you torment me

[echo parrot]

You are reading to much into this

[static pine]

why are your prison clothes blue

they clash horribly

how dare you

[echo parrot]

Yes

[high agate]

He's talking about the voices in his head because nobody in lobby would give a shit.

[echo parrot]

Its great

[high agate]

Standard psyker stuff

[echo parrot]

Yes beloved, this man right here.

[soft prawn]

i need to get back to doing penances

[cyan notch]

exactly people would be lol cool and forget about it forever

i get you wanna flex your goggles but in reality other players dont care that much

[static pine]

i really don't get why the penances are set up to be so
coordination dependent
there's no real achievement to them, it's just finding three people willing to spend the hour or so helping out
one ogryn with shield, some people willing to shoot a few elites without killing
problem solved
why is this a socialisation test ~_~

[echo parrot]

Lets make it worse

[soft prawn]

the reds dont match

[spiral remnant]

how very very terrible

[cyan notch]

that looks better

[hasty ether]

soo follow me on this Mk 3 Combat Blade + Recon Lasgun (torrent) feats 1-3-1-1-3-1. Since the game wants me to be a gun psyker so bad i gave this a go and it's actually working very effectively

[cyan notch]

do u have ammo problems

[echo parrot]

WHat dif

[hasty ether]

not really only using the gun to murder elites and quick burst to surpress

[analog juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/cease-your-heresy-warhammer-heresy-astartes-gif-18053812

[hasty ether]

knife does most of the work

[echo parrot]

A fellow knife user aye

Welcome

[static pine]

i got multiple transcendent knives from the emperor

dunno why

dude i'm a psyker why are you asking me to knife people

[soft prawn]

i've been using this

[echo parrot]

WTT 373 Deflector FS for 380 %80 Mob knife.

[echo parrot]

Damn son, got enough bleed?

[rancid burrow]

Jeez why is sharex giving me such a hard time lol

[echo parrot]

Mine only has +1 bleed on crit.

[dim pier]

This or bowl of shame tho

[echo parrot]

Will be glad when I can upgrade/change those

[static pine]

i think the emperor got confused about my class at some point

[echo parrot]

the gap

[runic hornet]

okay, the psyker-helmet-but-reject-rags look is fucking hilarious

[dim pier]

Oh god

[runic hornet]

that's actually

giggleworthy

[echo parrot]

Its like they are wearing a dog cone

I love it

[burnt python]

definitely the lead singer of a late 80s punk band

[coarse basalt]

Anyone think the force sword is worth using?

[echo parrot]

Yes

[rancid burrow]

Yes

[static pine]

yes

[dim pier]

Yes

[coarse basalt]

Why

[static pine]

deflect

[coarse basalt]

That's fair I guess

[echo parrot]

Big damage, deflector blessing

[coarse basalt]

alt kinda blows tho

[static pine]

alt's stat invariant big boom.

it can be handy.

wish it triggered BB stuff though

[rancid burrow]

No it doesnt

[echo parrot]

If you arent god at dodging the deflector is an actual blessing

[rancid burrow]

Its gotta be used right

[coarse basalt]

I mean chainsword doesn't take ammo out of my gun when I rev it

[dim pier]

Big damage, deflector+peril block, ranged push, decent clear cuz ranged push

[soft prawn]

been running this trio of curios

[runic current]

i think i hate the flame staff

[soft prawn]

[rancid burrow]

Chainsword charging doesnt increase damage of all other weapons either

[dim pier]

Chainsword charge also does less damage I'm pretty sure

[rancid burrow]

The purpose of the fs charge is simple, one shotting something big with a headshot

[tardy flower]

our goals are beyond your comprehension

[jaunty atlas]

3A, psychic communion is bugged ? i feel like on my kills alone i should have procced more charges than what is happening in most of my games

[spiral remnant]

how very terrible

[long wharf]

now you just look like a clown

[echo parrot]

You win. You are the warhammer 40k

I kneel

[coarse basalt]

Not level 20 yet but a rager not dying to the force sword on malice feels kinda badge

Guess Ill get there eventually I suppose

[potent echo]

Land a headshot

[lyric hatch]

man i cant get one good force sword to save my life

[potent echo]

And heavy

[spiral remnant]

W curio

shame its not +3 stamina

hopefully when blessings come out I can switch out the HP

[echo parrot]

At level 20 the FS you got is likely tickling people on Malice.

[coarse basalt]

Also feels really good to whiff a force sword

or for the game to just eat the charge for no reason and leave me with the peril

[echo parrot]

You cant judge it for real until you are 30 and you have at the very least a 325+ stat FS.

[coarse basalt]

fair

[lyric hatch]

@coarse basalt how you manage that, the thing has phantom range like a mf

[echo parrot]

Same goes for pretty much all weapons tbh

[coarse basalt]

just a rager screaming past me to hit someone else

[runic current]

lighting staff has too many -'s to use sadly

[coarse basalt]

or I get a hit marker for nothing to happen

and then the charge is gone

[echo parrot]

@coarse basalt screencap your FS

Lets see it

[coarse basalt]

Like I said not 20 yet

[rancid burrow]

Oh that thing is good for an upgrade

[lyric hatch]

@coarse basalt yeah mines not much better

[echo parrot]

Yeaaah, you cannot make a judgement with that one

[rancid burrow]

You can keep that for a bit

[cyan notch]

if u get hit before the final blow goes off you lose like 90% of your damage

[coarse basalt]

but being level 30 isnt gonna stop the game from eating my charge

or having all 100%

[echo parrot]

This random one in the shop is 364 for example, notice the state distribution difference

[coarse basalt]

ok

[burnt python]

wtf ana thats a god tier roll

[dim pier]

Can I have that one please

[burnt python]

you just have those available in your shop all the time

[echo parrot]

Then we compare it to the one I actually use every now and then

[lyric hatch]

@echo parrot man why yall getting good FS while im stuck with trash

[rancid burrow]

Buy that seriously

OH YOU!!!

[burnt python]

h8 u

[ornate hamlet]

Salazar the Warp Witch

[jaunty atlas]

wait ... the auto BB does NOT give warp charges ?!

[echo parrot]

Fine, if you insist

[lyric hatch]

@jaunty atlas its does

[rancid burrow]

it does

[echo parrot]

Another one for the pile

[jaunty atlas]

man .. i'm doing it right row

[dim pier]

It does on kill

[burnt python]

that green one was seriously amazing

you can spam fs special @ 99% so warp resist means nothing

[echo parrot]

Thats a purg staff

Not a surge staff

[low tulip]

oops, wrong image, sorry

[lyric hatch]

@echo parrot burn build?

[echo parrot]

What

[low tulip]

is this staff worth getting? I know it's got a bad base rating, but how important is crit damage on surge staff? (I don't even know the crit rate)

[echo parrot]

Big thing for surge is the CC more than anything.

Its got great warp resistance and charge rate, so I would go for it if it is an upgrade

[rancid burrow]

I love the surge staff

[burnt python]

it's good

[echo parrot]

Wanna hate me even more?

[jaunty atlas]

oh ok, there is something that does a BB sound but it's not bb

it's a crit on a soulblaze ?

[low tulip]

yeah, my shop has been a bitch, this is literally the second surge staff above 300 I've ever seen and I've been level 30 for 2 weeks now

[burnt python]

soulblaze d oesn't crit

[rancid burrow]

In the grim darkness that is the 21st millenium... there is only discord

lol bring it i love the surge staff

[jaunty atlas]

i don't get it, i see yellow numbers

[rancid burrow]

that moment of stun is great

[burnt python]

thats from the staff's primary dmg not the dot

[jaunty atlas]

the flamethrower is not considered as soulblaze ?

[burnt python]

no only the stacking dot

[jaunty atlas]

it doesn't proc 6B ?

[burnt python]

nope

[jaunty atlas]

damn

[low tulip]

and than people show up with these and make me wonder.... is the emperor trying to make me die to use my corpse somehow?

[jaunty atlas]

thank you

[burnt python]

the good news is that means you can utilize dmg as a dump stat on purge staves

[undone badge]

another day no good purg

[low tulip]

I haven't even seen a good staff yet.... much less specific staffs lol

[echo parrot]

I also got these kinda just sitting around.

[jaunty atlas]

that is very true. and i'm very salty

[burnt python]

still pretty good tbh

ideal blessing, good burn stat

you'll find better sooner than later tho most likely

[jaunty atlas]

the problem is the range. i feel like i'm not doing my job

[burnt python]

burn > cloud > crit perks/blessings > quell/warp > dmg on purge imo

[echo parrot]

Damn son you got those t4 perks

Nice

[cyan notch]

well 1 is guaranteed t4

but yea i got 1

[burnt python]

370+ base stats with a t4 perk to lock in is the dream

[jaunty atlas]

i don't know if void staff is too good or the others are underwhelming

[burnt python]

even got the proper dump stat

[echo parrot]

Unfortunately these are the highest purg/void staves I have

I really want a nice void roll

[cyan notch]

ur void isnt horrible

[echo parrot]

Naturally we will not discuss TRauma as it doesnt exist

[cyan notch]

id upgrade that

[rancid burrow]

I like trauma

[spiral remnant]

why does the surge staff look like a purg???

[burnt python]

will be pretty happy w/ this when i can replace soulflame lol

[jaunty atlas]

i gave it to my ogryn. it's a hurty stick now

[patent hatch]

What’s y’all opinion on the chain sword

[burnt python]

and upgrade other blessing

[echo parrot]

You can put any staff cosmetic on any kind of staff. I like the logboi-ness of the purg, so I put it on my surge.

[spiral remnant]

o

[spiral remnant]

poopy >:(

[jaunty atlas]

it rocks, like any chain sword, but ... have you heard about our beloved, the antax 5 ?

[spiral remnant]

feels bleh in my opnion

i dont like it much

[uncut hamlet]

I've been wanting to try a trauma in damnation heresy

[patent hatch]

I mean no

[burnt python]

i run trauma on damn often

[spiral remnant]

"Get vote kicked in one simple trick! Sweats hate him!"

[jaunty atlas]

maybe you hsould give it a try

[sinful robin]

emperer drop w/ sprint instead of flak

[patent hatch]

I got a god rolled chain sword can’t decide if it’s just a worse power sword or not

[patent hatch]

Go on

[uncut hamlet]

chain sword special is better on unarmored, fs better on armored

fs is more flexible overall, however

[burnt python]

damn thats nice

[warm delta]

my Purg, I'm lovin it

[uncut hamlet]

Purg is great

Holy fucking roll too

380

[jaunty atlas]

it's a weapon that kills nearly anything in 3 simple clicks, can block for a longtime and the followup is dealdy, on all types, it's smooth, it fight right in the hand and if really someone do not want to die use the heavy overhead. works in every difficulty.

[drowsy fog]

Damn that's even better than what I have

[echo parrot]

The 380 holy roll

[burnt python]

roll crit & you set

[echo parrot]

Blessed

[uncut hamlet]

mk5 with brutal momentum is absolutely insane

[patent hatch]

Idk about my blessings and perks tho

[echo parrot]

Time for this rabbit to sleep

[warm delta]

waitin for the blessing reroll to get warp nexus

[echo parrot]

ANOTHER 380 holy roll.

Double blessed.

[patent hatch]

YEAH ITS DELICIOUS

[echo parrot]

I have yet to encounter a single 380

I envy

Lol

[burnt python]

i have not seen a 380 either

[patent hatch]

Got it as a grey now it is yellow

[elfin crystal]

they rare as shit

[patent hatch]

[echo parrot]

Anyways time for this rabbit to sleep

[burnt python]

g'night!

[warm delta]

380 isnt' that rare, it's just never the one you wanted

[uncut hamlet]

my closest has been 372

[uncut hamlet]

gnight

[burnt python]

wtf

[uncut hamlet]

Mmmm yes headhunter autoguns

[cyan notch]

no they are definitely rare

[jaunty atlas]

it's not bad, but personally i do not play melee on a psyker. i want a weapon that supress anything that come close so i can voidstaff again. since FB is the purest crap except that deflector blessing and we do not have the fabled power sword ... antax 5 is the answer

[elfin crystal]

i mean, do you have any other 380 tho?

[patent hatch]

Let me correct you, 380 on modifiers is rare not on overall power

[patent hatch]

No :(

[burnt python]

i have 190 hrs my highest seen is 378

[warm delta]

only those stupid guns that Iwill never use lol

[elfin crystal]

like 2 ain't a big amount by any margin

sad

[patent hatch]

Eh ok, I just don’t use the FS out of principle because it doesn’t look cool. Ima stick to chain sword because it’s kick ass

[cyan notch]

i use fs exactly because it looks cool

[jaunty atlas]

it really does, and ignoring mass permit big cleave

[jagged vault]

2h force weapon pls

[burnt python]

if you see a fs with deflector, grab it & you'll understand - w/o that blessing they are fairly comparable with chain having edge in horde clear and fs having edge in elite killing

[patent hatch]

I don’t use it because having auto quell on melee is nice to

[jaunty atlas]

FS look psykery. peculiarly with that new shader with an unfortunate camo color

but that's all it has

[burnt python]

also keep an eye out for mk v combat axe if you aren't aware of that beast yet

[patent hatch]

I’ve got a 360 one it’s pretty cool

[jaunty atlas]

(btw you can buy separate elements of a pack by pressing V then buy)

[patent hatch]

Tanked 3 Daemon hosts so far

Easiest the emperor protects ever

[spiral remnant]

i mean.. i've only gotten one 380 so i'd say it's p rare

[elfin crystal]

i got a 380 fs a while ago, but sadly, kinda bad stats spread 😔

warp res is good tho

[patent hatch]

Warp res is great

[elfin crystal]

yeah

[warm delta]

I dont know, I got plenty useless 380s that I would never use them, like guns and random melee ones

[spiral remnant]

i envy you

[patent hatch]

I think your getting confused

That screenshot has 0 380’s in

[warm delta]

no they are

[spiral remnant]

is glory hunter good?

[patent hatch]

Oh they are all grey lol

Could of sworn they where blue

[patent hatch]

Seems alr

I like the slide reload on revolver personally

[warm delta]

lol no they were grey, had some greens 380 too like those ones

but what use, I still using a 311 base DS

and no deflector FS either

[patent hatch]

Haha

379

😎

Tbh tho that blue Cat is worth using

Those swords are actually really good for hoard clear

[rancid burrow]

I wish there was a testing area

[patent hatch]

Meat Grinder?

[rancid burrow]

like the firing range in vermintide 2

[patent hatch]

They are literally the same thing

[long wharf]

you mean the meat grinder

[warm delta]

I am not too worrying about the horde clear as I am using Purg staff, so I used a DS for mobility, ideally I should get a FS with deflector but havent seen one yet in my 250 hr play time

[patent hatch]

Fair

I use Perg Staff/Knife

[rancid burrow]

Well I gotta learn about meat grinder

[patent hatch]

Surge/Chain Sword

and void strike/axe

[static pine]

my concern is just ever finding a team to get the damn penances xD

[warm delta]

what Knife? do we have Knives?

[patent hatch]

Daggers

[static pine]

catachan combat blade

[warm delta]

oh that

[patent hatch]

Heavy attack into slide

Spicy mobility

[static pine]

emperor continues to think i'm a vet

[patent hatch]

Gun Psyker is a thing tbh

Not a good thing

But a thing

[static pine]

also tends to use recon anyway

[spiral remnant]

love my revolver

[cyan notch]

pea shooter

water gun

[patent hatch]

Psyker is flexible af tbh. I feel like every weapon (except trauma) has a place.

[cyan notch]

trauma is good for mixed hordes

[patent hatch]

So is void

And purge

Surge kinda sucks with hoard tho

[rancid burrow]

It's better to stun and cleave

I use surge more than any other

[patent hatch]

In higher levels same

Purge can be nice to you gotta be cracked with it tho

I’d argue it’s the hardest staff to use

[keen belfry]

Purg??!

[rancid burrow]

Fire

[static pine]

i really dislike playing surge

[rancid burrow]

I don't see a problem with it

[static pine]

sure it's got its use

but it is SO
BORING.

[keen belfry]

All I use…

[patent hatch]

Once you learn the animation cancels it can be complicated

[runic hornet]

honestly I don't get this because unless elites are up you should be in melee anyway

antax, my beloved

[static pine]

they're always up in heresy tho

[patent hatch]

I still don’t know what Antax is tbh

[pure peak]

trauma has its place

[runic hornet]

it's an ax
although it is not for ants

Oh boy is it time for me to whip out the trauma stan pasta

[pure peak]

there is a dude here with a video of blowing a hound off the platform falling to its death

[lucid mortar]

I've focused my build on cc and deflector to walk down gunners and suppress them so the team can clean up. Feels kinda badass but certainly isn't focused on killing

[patent hatch]

My normal playstyle is lightning then heavy swing with chain sword

[runic hornet]

Trauma: Epicentre 2.29m, blast radius 8.32m.
Rumbler: Epicentre 2.77m, blast radius 8.85m. Does way less damage than trauma
Frags: No listed stats but blast radius of "maybe 10 meters" eyeballed. Does even less damage than rumbler, and hugely so.
Voidstrike: Epicentre 1.32m, Blast radius 3.56m. It's tiny.
Voidstrike damage gets close to 500 and definitely breaks it with perks, but it basically needs near-direct hits.

[rancid burrow]

what you havent blown off a beast of nurgle?

[pure peak]

i dont have trauma to test that on

that

[rancid burrow]

i think i saw some craziness like that happen once

[pure peak]

im curious of the trauma can blow off elites off the ground

[rancid burrow]

doubt i caused it

[pure peak]

and mutants

[keen belfry]

It just blows mobs all over the place and teammates get surrounded

[pure peak]

thats why you do it near a bridge so they fall off

[runic hornet]

that sounds like an act not even a devotee of slannesh would dare do

on account of the chaos gods hating each other, of course

[rancid burrow]

I have no comments

[patent hatch]

Ima be honest fuck slugs

[pure peak]

i wouldnt know i just use Voidstrike staff

anyways

[runic hornet]

aim it responsibly and clean up your own trash, it's not like ou can chain cast trauma anyway so you pull out antax and mop up

[patent hatch]

Based

[pure peak]

void strike for cc

ez

[patent hatch]

Dagger and Flamenwurther for me

[runic hornet]

mincharge trauma hard knockdowns crushers, it's absurd.
You need to charge it up to stagger bulwark from front but it hard staggers from behind

[patent hatch]

Become the budget Zealot

[pure peak]

WHAT

[rancid burrow]

The trauma staff's stagger damage is massive even against carapace armored opponents so you might nudge

[pure peak]

Imma use this thing jesus christ

[rancid burrow]

but i doubt youll send anything like a crusher flying

[runic hornet]

don't get too excited, surge also mincharge stuns everything lmao

[patent hatch]

^

[runic hornet]

But as the trauma stan, I will say it has very particular uses

[cyan notch]

kinda prefer void more now

[runic hornet]

table values are fucked

[rancid burrow]

It's crazy stagger

[runic hornet]

they don't deal near that much damage

[lucid mortar]

I played surge for like 8 games today, took 3 alleve and some whiskey, but I got thru it

[rancid burrow]

Doesn't matter they're gonna be proportional

[pure peak]

i love my psyker but

god

[runic hornet]

but the stagger feels... accurate, given you hard-stagger bulwarks with one full charge from the front

[pure peak]

i want to use that bolter

[patent hatch]

I mean
Void = Damage
Purge = Damage/Stun
Surge = Stun
Force = so specific it doesn’t matter

[cyan notch]

void is pretty decent stun too

[rancid burrow]

Man everyone has a grudge against another staff

[patent hatch]

Yeah it is

[pure peak]

Void stun and downs

too

ye

[patent hatch]

But surge and Purge do it a lot better

[pure peak]

Meh

[runic current]

cant see shit with purge

[rancid burrow]

purge slows you down for a long time too

[pure peak]

Void you fire a ball it blows a hole in entire horde. Horde gets knocked down and you fire more and horde is gone

[rancid burrow]

lightning you can stun, sprint and be done

[runic hornet]

purge staff users know all about flaming a horde then dying to a shotugnner they could see @ 20m

[warm delta]

hows void good with damage, I am having so much trouble with it to kill elites/specials

[runic current]

YES

[pure peak]

void good for horde but it takes like 3 shots to kill an elite

full charge e.e

or 2

depends on difficulty too

[patent hatch]

It’s like a cannonball the void strike

Not a explosive

It’s a penetration machine tho

[pure peak]

Void = imagine thorwing a bowling ball and the mobs are pins

[patent hatch]

^^^^

[warm delta]

yes, it's stupid to kill just a single gunner with 2, or maybe 3 full charge, might as well bb it

[pure peak]

[patent hatch]

That’s what the ranger is for tbh

[pure peak]

brain burst takes too long

by the tiem u charge that brain burst ill fire 3 voids

[patent hatch]

BB is just depressingly bad tbh

[pure peak]

i dont even use BB anymore

[cyan notch]

not really

[pure peak]

unless its a deamon or nurgle

[warm delta]

bb still has its use, especially with bomber, trapper, sniper that tend to hit and run

[cyan notch]

gunner

bulwark

[pure peak]

I just fire void shot to down and hit him with FS

[patent hatch]

Only time I use it is on snipers and bosses

[nimble burrow]

Is bb better than a full channel of purge

[naive dawn]

BB also has a high stagger, so using it on crusher/mauler stops them entirely.

[patent hatch]

No lol

[warm delta]

you could've missed the shot and watched them fleed away like a rocket lol

[pure peak]

it has aoe

so if it hits nearby it will hit

[night marten]

not on anything except crushers, bulwarks (from the front). *almost universally purge does more damage with a full secondary, by a lot

[cyan notch]

i thought purg does decent damage to bosses

[pure peak]

and i fire 2 in succession so it will have to dodge both

[night marten]

purge can 1-shot bulwarks on damnation with 1 crit in the secondary, almost 1-shots reapers

[low tulip]

is there a google doc or something somewhere that tells us the stat priority of each weapon?

[pure peak]

n0

make one

[warm delta]

yea but during horde, still I prefer use bb, too risky to chase those down

[burnt python]

i cry

[pure peak]

I just blow past the horde

[fresh reef]

this one worth upgrading?

[pure peak]

FFS block downing to move past and F in middle to down everyone and then run past entire horde to kill that sniper

[warm delta]

feel like thats something an Ogryn would do lol

[patent hatch]

There’s no hair nets at work does this mean I can go home and purge heretics

[pure peak]

walcome to psyker jack of all trades

[patent hatch]

Psyker is kinda a bit of everything tbh

Most flexible next to zealot

[burnt python]

flex & clutch are what psyker does best rn

[pure peak]

i can grab a gun and shoot like a marksman. Grab a melee weapon fight like a zealot, CC like a psyker, and then tank like an ogryn

[burnt python]

i wish melk would offer me somethin worth buying here and there

[white cedar]

I think I bought wrong staff (I realise that you can put other staff skin in it)

[pure peak]

i want to

make a gun class soon

tho

but i hate marksman

wish they let pskyer use bolter

[burnt python]

gun psyker is unironically good

with mg xii

[pure peak]

i just wanted the big gun

[burnt python]

ye we dont get any particularly fun guns

except revolver but its not great for us

[pure peak]

makes me mad

[burnt python]

pretend ur void is a railgun

[white cedar]

Flame Surge Staff feel kinda wrong

[pure peak]

looks like spider web shooting out l

like spiderman

[burnt python]

looks like theres a raging fire 10m away and you're just gesturing at it like "look at this shit"

[nimble burrow]

Oh i goofed, I meant on bosses but yeah

[lyric hatch]

@white cedar essence harvest, like the emperor intended

[raw otter]

i think they changed vfx

[kindred delta]

on a scale of 1-10 how scuffed is the vfx on surge

[kindred delta]

what the hell why is your staff a surge staff but your using purgatus flame spew 👀

[white cedar]

staff skin is shared

[kindred delta]

funky

[white cedar]

I just happen to know 10 minute ago 😂

[fossil snow]

why do people want deflection on force sword specifically?

[white cedar]

some moment when you have to charge to it but it still shooting

[fossil snow]

uh

come again?

[lucid mortar]

there's a nice synergy with the kinetic deflection feat, you can tank ranged shots and it just gives you peril

[kindred delta]

its only on force sword tmk and it lets you block bullets and stuff