#psyker-class

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shut thorn
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It wouldn't be difficult to code it within a few hrs

supple skiff
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well I have like 3 families to contend with as far as the holidays go so I probably won't get the chance to suffer as a psyker much lol

jovial frigate
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100% quell will probably get hotfixed but i think thats all i expect

clear heath
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Well no, but it's kinda sad that we have to lower our expectations like this

shut thorn
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It's very likely they add crafting the moment christmas sale happens

supple skiff
fair axle
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It ain't going to change the reviews tho and sitting at a 62% review score is.. bad for business.

jovial frigate
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they already tested the waters, theyre gonna announce it ||and then roll it back as soon as they finish their steam post with all their new 'content'||

shut thorn
jovial frigate
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but rly yeah idk if i expect much until jan at this point

clear heath
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the beta never ends

shut thorn
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Ngl tho

supple skiff
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yeah, so users can define the tags to a degree,

shut thorn
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Psykers won this patch

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We had the power to delay it

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By a day

supple skiff
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guess they tagger it early access enough for it to stick for a minute

shut thorn
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By spamming this chat with funny vids

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@jovial frigate what serv is that emote from

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I need it

supple skiff
fair axle
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We gotta go ham on this and get that tag back then

shut thorn
jovial frigate
supple skiff
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took the time to nerf that but not check that other shit wasn't borked, neat

shut thorn
drowsy fog
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Maybe I'll just re-download vt2 while they finish dt

shut thorn
drowsy fog
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"Mysteriously"

supple skiff
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have like 40 hours in vt2 I might just have to

drowsy fog
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We already made money off this one, get em on the new game!

cold oasis
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honestly, chaos waste is just so much fun

pine iris
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"oops all hounds" mode was a bad idea re: needing 1 more grim

shut thorn
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I like the hound gamemode

drowsy fog
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Ignore grims, grims bad

shut thorn
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It's funny seeing ogryns and vets fuck up

pine iris
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this next match is now my 3rd attempt for 1 grim. Pub groups are bad tn

pine iris
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I love the hound enemy

drowsy fog
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But nah if I step away for a bit I have plenty of choices, maybe my ff xiv break is over who knows

summer wind
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๐Ÿ˜”

drowsy fog
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Rip resist

shut thorn
summer wind
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yeah

covert cosmos
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is 62% score bad for business

summer wind
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riveting gameplay

covert cosmos
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so many ppl bought it already lol

shut thorn
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steam?

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yeah

covert cosmos
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on steam i guess

summer wind
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i'm loving refreshing the shop so i can actually have my class perform properly

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it's so fun

shut thorn
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xmas is coming up

covert cosmos
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im sure they'll be fine

summer wind
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๐Ÿ’€

shut thorn
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mixed is really bad

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for xmas

fair axle
covert cosmos
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and im also sure the game will be a lot better in a year

summer wind
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the gameplay is fine, the gameplay slaps

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the progression though

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oh my god it sucks ass

shut thorn
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it is v bad

summer wind
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i've been trying to get a purge staff for over 100 hours

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and i'm yet to get a good one

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due to no fault of my own

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just pure RNG

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i may never get one

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i may get one next time i look

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who knows

fair axle
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You

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mean

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this

supple skiff
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mixed reviews are deserved

summer wind
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absolutely

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the game is mixed in quality

fair axle
covert cosmos
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call of duty still makes bank with mixed reviews tho

supple skiff
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idk what point steam reviews become red, but they better pray it doesn't come to that

summer wind
supple skiff
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getting by on all the good faith beta reviews

summer wind
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better, though

supple skiff
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is it 59?

fair axle
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It's more than ideal. Quell speed is no longer bugged.

lime gorge
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If you passive quell with an axe itโ€™s basically perfect right?

shut thorn
summer wind
shut thorn
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at the rate its dropping rn

summer wind
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if we could

shut thorn
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it might reach negative

summer wind
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damage doesn't really do much for the flamer, imo

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the DOT is what you're after past poxwalkers

fair axle
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This isn't flamer..

summer wind
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it is?

supple skiff
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95 - 99% : Overhwelmingly Positive
94 - 80% : Very Positive
80 - 99% + few reviews: Positive
70 - 79% : Mostly Positive
40 - 69% : Mixed
20? - 39% : Mostly Negative
0 - 39% + rew reviews: Negative
0 - 19% : Very Negative
0 - 19% + many reviews: Overwhelmingly Negative
Notice that "positive" and "negative" in particular are calculate

summer wind
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purgatus staff?

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that is the flame staff

fair axle
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1/3 of the damage from purgatus is from the direct damage

supple skiff
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according to this article I found. It won't hit 40

summer wind
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yeah so i'd dump it in favor of quell and resist

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so you can keep up your damage longer

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that's it's strength

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is sustainability

supple skiff
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would take a review bomb to do that.

summer wind
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it's not like it matters anyways

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not gonna be able to get one like that

fair axle
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You don't need quell on a purgatus... it literally clears it on its own with the passive feat ๐Ÿ™‚

shut thorn
summer wind
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once or twice

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it's handy when you're swapping to BB to deal with a bulwark

summer vine
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What's the setup you guys are running for Psyker with Purgatorus?

ornate hamlet
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what I am running

shut thorn
summer wind
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yeah damage is 100% a dump stat on purge staff

drowsy fog
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Old screenshot it's been upgraded since

rancid burrow
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@summer vineso that staff is kinda a "spray" that gets a lot of enemies, but its not as lethal as some other staffs. imo you love them or hate them

summer wind
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best one i've found so far unfortunately

drowsy fog
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I'm at work so it's the best you'll get lol

fair axle
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Those 2 less damage is the raw damage before modifiers are applied.

lime gorge
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Whatโ€™s the rate of dmg application?

summer wind
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run and gun is pretty bad imo

summer vine
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What's the personal stats setup you guys are running for Psyker with Purgatorus?

summer wind
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but i can see how people would like it

summer vine
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The 10,15,20 etc

rancid burrow
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I like the surge staff in a semi-aggro way i guess

summer wind
rancid burrow
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the momentary stun and a charged force sword

summer wind
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this is what i run with purge

summer vine
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Surge staff is good for stun

summer wind
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keeps me at 6 charges 24/7 during hordes

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and keeps my peril low during that

rancid burrow
# summer wind

I prefer the 10% pop chance and 30% toughness on warp charges

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The head pop is so important

summer wind
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10% pop chance becomes completely redundant with this setup, i find

night marten
summer wind
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i'm always at max stacks as is

night marten
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damage also affects secondary "burning intensity" which I think *affects dot strength

summer vine
summer wind
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in that case it matters then

rancid burrow
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Yeah fair I actually had the same thought when I tested the staff

night marten
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I don't have a shit-tier purge staff to test currently

summer wind
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it's all i've gotten unfortunately

rancid burrow
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I've got each staff at top tier

summer vine
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I got one as a reward it's almost 500

night marten
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but when I see one I will. think that burning intensity factor is the key, making damage actually matter

summer vine
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480 something

summer wind
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from my understanding, you want cloud radius, burn, quell, resist

rancid burrow
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you're kinda softening giant groups

summer wind
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in no particular order

night marten
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for sure all those stats are good, just not sure how significant the damage "burning intensity" modifier impacts total dot damage

summer wind
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yeah same

near wyvern
wise pecan
night marten
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if it's significant, purgatus doesn't have a real dump stat. they're all important

summer wind
light belfry
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a 370 baser... but the damage... ๐Ÿ˜ญ

ornate hamlet
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my fast run build

rancid burrow
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it doesnt have that impact of other staves, it leans into the damage

light belfry
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what do you guys think is the least important stat on the voidstrike

summer wind
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science time

fair axle
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Who has a 60% purgatus and 80% burn?

rancid burrow
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Lemme check

summer wind
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lemme look what i've got on hand

rancid burrow
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I actually might

night marten
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want to find a ~30% damage purge staff

summer wind
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lowest i can find

rancid burrow
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oh fantastic now darktide wont launch like the patch lol

fair axle
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My 79/79 does 197 per tick

night marten
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I've already uploaded a bunch of gifs and videos into the channel with those stats^, if anyone has a shit-tier staff they could compare numbers pretty easily

ornate hamlet
rancid burrow
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Haven't had that

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Many many other random ones though

night marten
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I haven't crashed in about a week I think

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running i9 with 1080

summer wind
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i haven't had a crash since launch that i can recall

lime gorge
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Since patch been crashing on kill a few times

summer wind
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ryzen 5 2600 1080ti

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crappy ram

fair axle
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It takes me.. 2s to clear 100% peril

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Probably less actually

summer wind
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really?

rancid burrow
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2080, i7-4790k, 16gb ram, 1tb ssd, 144hz. I crash quite a bit

wise pecan
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Iโ€™ve has a few crashes, and surprisingly even a BSOD pretty recently. Havenโ€™t been on since the newest patch though

summer wind
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was that changed that much?

fair axle
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Yes, they fixed quelling

summer wind
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fixed how?

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made it take way less time?

fair axle
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Our talent bugged it and made it take longer

near wyvern
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BTW. Ascendent Blaze works on all soulblaze kills, not just yours.

And it seems there is only one spilblaze effect, if you have 2 Psykers with 2 purgstus staves the stacks are gonna get high real fast and melt trash in a blink.

night marten
summer wind
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previously i would spend more time quelling than doing anything else, back in the pre order beta

lime gorge
summer wind
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peril resist probably

rancid burrow
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Hey wait have any of you guys had this weird thing with quelling? When you swap to another force weapon to quell near 100% I get this moment of "about to explode"

vagrant cedar
fair axle
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It's in the patch notes somewhere

rancid burrow
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I don't crash constantly for the record

night marten
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oh cool new gothic city level

long wharf
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I just completed the new level on damnation

median terrace
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i dont crash i just have hella lag

long wharf
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pretty fun, very wide open

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not many places to hide or hold up

rancid burrow
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Was that your first time on the map?

long wharf
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yep

night marten
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running an uprising, nice to enjoy the scenery

rancid burrow
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Aw man I was actually saying that I thought the map sucked. It was that intense

fair axle
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3s to quell if it didn't bug out

white badger
rancid burrow
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After some time I was thinking "tat's fantastic" of course

fair axle
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don't think that 20% is going to make a lot of difference there on a perfect 380

long wharf
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yeah, I really should have been using void, but I went in with purge

summer wind
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btw why don't psyker boots have tread

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how do we not fall over all the time

long wharf
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because psykers don't deserve comfort

dense hill
lucid mortar
rancid burrow
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Might be that tbh muscle memory from CSGO comes into play

white badger
violet fossil
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36% charge rate can't be that bad.. can it?

fair axle
rancid burrow
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You have to be planning its use

jovial frigate
fair axle
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'cos you get 3 casts without it, but up to 400 dmg while purging

summer wind
drowsy fog
fair axle
dense hill
lucid mortar
rancid burrow
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Haha I have so many deflectors

summer wind
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deflector really needs to be a feat

rancid burrow
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No deflector is good

summer wind
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it's really good, that's the problem

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no other blessing is even close to as useful

rancid burrow
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The balance is the arrogance it puts in the psyker

sage flower
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does the force weapon feat work with purgation staff?

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or just force sword?

fair axle
rancid burrow
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It's for the force swords only

summer wind
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it changes the class so much by having it

summer wind
rancid burrow
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Changing that will force the class to lean towards guns

dense hill
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ive still never seen deflector.. ive even started upgrading greens just for the chance

fair axle
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I was running soulblaze there, 'cos it rips ogryn's apart that enter the stream

summer wind
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i don't run many soulblaze perks because there's already plenty going around

rancid burrow
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And it allows psyker to be an even better team supporter from revives

fair axle
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stacks up so fast on them that it actually burns down bulwarks and crushers

summer wind
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my ult and my weapon both apply stacks to everything infront of me

long wharf
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fuck you Hadron, I didn't want no useless run-n-gun

summer wind
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squads of ogryns tend to be a problem

violet fossil
long wharf
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I'm going to

summer wind
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wait do you mean wrack and ruin?

fair axle
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Mmm

summer wind
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or kinetic overload

rancid burrow
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Here's my gear

summer wind
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one is brain burst one is warp charge

fair axle
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Oh

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Kinetic Overload

summer wind
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i can't take it sadly

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6 stacks is too much better in general

supple skiff
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that sword is nice

rancid burrow
summer wind
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4 - 6 is really good if you can maintain them

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and if you're running kinetic you're assuming you can

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i can see the value though

rancid burrow
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No not at all

supple skiff
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trying to get a void staff with quell and chain charge blessings, but no such luck yet

fair axle
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It's primarily for hordes tho

summer wind
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it doesn't hit hordes

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at all

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it's bugged

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purely elites and specials, and only one at a time

fair axle
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Yes, I know

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That's why it's there..

long wharf
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what's bugged?

fair axle
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It takes care of Crushers and Bulwarks

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Kinetic Overload

rancid burrow
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I don't understand why Flayer isn't the automatic best

fair axle
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Can't hit Crushers in the first place, staff soulblaze don't affect them.. but normal soulblaze does ๐Ÿ™‚

summer wind
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you could either have soulblaze applied to one enemy "nearby" which is pretty close, or 12% peril resist 6% damage at all times

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both are solid imo

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i just feel like it's overkill, usually i brainburst or force sword crushers

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force sword dps against elites is so good that i don't bother using the staff on them unless i'm hitting other targets at the same time

rancid burrow
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My lightning staff kills them shocking easily

fair axle
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You can animation cancel the charge attack on FS

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๐Ÿ™‚

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Use it well on Mutants

summer wind
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i don't bother with any of that

rancid burrow
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You can kinda see my staff is built for it though

summer wind
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i just play the game

fair axle
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But it is nice to kill mutants that try to charge you.. in 2 instant hits

summer wind
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oh for sure

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i just don't like exploiting things if i can help it

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especially knowing it might get fixed

fair axle
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I don't think it's an exploit

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It's not like the Q one

summer wind
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animation canceling isn't an exploit?

robust meteor
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animation canceling is in nearly every game. the fact that it can be abused to rapid swing is the problem

fair axle
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You just ult after hitting..

summer wind
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you are attacking far faster than intended

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ohhh

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i thought this was a new method

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yeah that one's weird

fair axle
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Ult cancels the animation, 'cos know you're ulting and applies the damage

rancid burrow
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I think it's intended to make psyker stand out as a very support oriente class

summer wind
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ulting does weird things to staves

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if you ult while using a purge staff the fire comes out of nowhere

rancid burrow
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You assume Ogryn is best for revives but no it's psyker. ogyrn is best at defending

summer wind
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but keeps going

worn mica
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what do you want on purg for a perk

rancid burrow
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The tide games are very well known for the animations being used

fair axle
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we animation canceled in Vermintide 2

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too

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but.. the Q one seems borderline exploity

summer wind
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yeah, just not something i like the idea of

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borderline KEKW_ogryn

fair axle
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You literally turn everything into a railgun

robust meteor
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no animation canceling is a call to how games used to be

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old ass games

summer wind
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you mean games that released finished

robust meteor
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no

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thats not what i mean

summer wind
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i know, i'm just sad

robust meteor
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me too

summer wind
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these days "release" means release of early access

worn mica
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what do you want on purg for perks. Damage to flak or something?

robust meteor
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yep its the norm

summer wind
worn mica
robust meteor
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game studios got bought up by investors. really bad industry now

summer wind
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good

night marten
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crit chance is good for purgatus

summer wind
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applies more stacks on crits or something like that

rancid burrow
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Okay my discord was having a bad time sry if i was talking minutes late

night marten
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a crit applies two stacks

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I don't think it's a bug

summer wind
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i hope it's not

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but i wouldn't be surprised

rancid burrow
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No animation canceling is in everything

drowsy fog
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So what other factions do we think will show up

rancid burrow
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Fighting games especially

summer wind
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i do not vibe with abusing animations

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mordhau flashbacks

rancid burrow
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That's how you get sweeping kills

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You gotta learn to exploit the light/heavy attack chains for a sweep

humble skiff
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if i charge the surge staff for longer does it chain more enemies? or should i just spam it

rancid burrow
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light attack, heavy, block, push, repeat. thats how i use the force sword

worn mica
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charging only does more damage

humble skiff
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is it correct that less charge speed is better on it?

drowsy fog
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Wear eye protection for surge

rancid burrow
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hahaha

humble skiff
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since if you charge longer it uses more peril

rancid burrow
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I legit have epilepsy

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And never thought of that

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You're right

long wharf
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charge the surge staff when you're attacking enemies in flak or carapace armor

naive dawn
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yeh do not use surge if you have epilepsy

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real talk

sleek yacht
long wharf
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you can kill those reliably

robust meteor
rancid burrow
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It won't cause a seizure I promise

summer wind
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i got good at it too and i eventually decided "this sucks i'm out" and never went back

rancid burrow
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They don't use the correct colors at the correct timings. I'm positive

humble skiff
sleek yacht
fair axle
summer wind
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wouldn't

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a

rancid burrow
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It's kinda like a hack for the brain that if you input the correct lights at the correct timings then you short circuit it. since pokemon they quintouple check lol

formal glade
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i seriously hate to ask, but is psyker yet again bugged? im noticing sometimes when i hit 100% peril, that im unable to quell for like 5 seconds -_-

gritty perch
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I think this one's good.

rancid burrow
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I have it too

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I think it's not a bug actually

naive dawn
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That is a currently a really fun bug for all peril generating weapons

rancid burrow
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I think it's an intentional punishment for going a little too far

formal glade
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It absolutely is, because this was not a thing before the patch

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It absolutely was not

naive dawn
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The Devs have confirmed a bug, but who konws when it will get fixed.

rancid burrow
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Oh it is okay

summer wind
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possibly never, possibly next patch

echo parrot
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Rate my gear

rancid burrow
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It happens when you swap weapons and instantly quell right?

formal glade
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No it happens period

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Even without swapping you sometimes just get locked out of quelling

naive dawn
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Any time you hit 100% peril with any force you cant quell for 3 seconds.

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Its brutal

rancid burrow
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mine isn't so consistent

wise pecan
summer wind
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fair

rancid burrow
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i instinctively swap thats probably why

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csgo muscle memory

formal glade
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I'm noticing it consistenly happens if you go well past 100%, as in to around 108% ish

night marten
formal glade
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If you got from say 80-100%, it tends to not happen.

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But 90-100 it does

rancid burrow
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I kind of like it. It feels like a punishment for skimming too close to the warp

rancid burrow
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Like for a brief instant you might have turned into a Chaos Spawn

humble skiff
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can you still animation cancel the surge staff?

rancid burrow
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Yes

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Nothing has changed

summer wind
drowsy fog
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Psyker subclass that embraces the warp when?

humble skiff
summer wind
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2 years

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take it or leave it

rancid burrow
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I don't know about the meta but I use it all the time

humble skiff
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seems like its strong

night marten
rancid burrow
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I'll hit and sprint just to stun something

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@night martenyoure right but this is 40k. i assume everything is out to screw me over

formal glade
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The class is already gimped by peril as is, there's no reason to punish us even further when our classes tools are ass as is

summer wind
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the other classes don't explode when they shoot their guns

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why would we explode more than we already do

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the answer is for fun

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i like exploding

supple skiff
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a class with pitfalls and this much resource management should be able to outperform other classes with high level play, full stop

summer wind
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agreed

humble skiff
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if i charge the surge staff for longer does it chain to more enemies?

summer wind
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we're also the squishiest class in the game, aside from peril blocking

night marten
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I don't think purge staff should have been able to initiate casts at 100% and quell down before the animation finishes, but in general casting anything below 100% shouldn't have a penalty

supple skiff
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I play a vet with the xii lasgun and its so easy by comparison

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needs to be a pay off for more difficult gameplay

rancid burrow
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I completely disagree

formal glade
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Peril just exists to make you think you're powerful when you clearly aren't

true torrent
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Got psyker and zealot to 30, at lvl 9 on my sharpshooter and it is so much smoother

formal glade
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Even if you could spam your abilities without restraint you'd still be inferior to the other classes

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So the whole "cool down" period is pointless out of aesthetics

rancid burrow
robust meteor
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any psykers want to do a 4 surge/4 deflector run hunting grounds mission?

summer wind
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don't use vet as an example of balance

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vet is extremely overtuned

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everyone else is a lot closer to eachother

rancid burrow
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you know what i mean though

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the xray

formal glade
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Vet is overtuned yes, but Psyker is clearly undertuned as well

summer wind
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i dunno

formal glade
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Even when compared to Zealot and Ogyrn

summer wind
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i find psyker better than zealot

drowsy fog
summer wind
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where my zealot can't horde clear my psyker turns it into a joke

formal glade
summer wind
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where my zealot gets stuck behind cover shooting guns, my psyker can pop them

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and so on

robust meteor
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they should have nerfed vet and fixed other classes

rancid burrow
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Psyker is clearly the most subjective class

summer wind
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it is yeah

formal glade
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In what world can a Zealot not hoard clear

rancid burrow
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Everyone's favorite staves are different

summer wind
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in this one

formal glade
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They literally thrive in hoards

summer wind
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they do, they just take a while

fast swan
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y'all gamers see the pyker career datamines?

rancid burrow
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So does psyker though

summer wind
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psyker can clear a horde solo in under 10 seconds

rancid burrow
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Give one a trauma staff and BANG

summer wind
fast swan
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psychic throwing knives...

summer wind
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i doubt this is real

robust meteor
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i want them

rancid burrow
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Nah I wanna keep the surprise

summer wind
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i hope not

robust meteor
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if you're in discord you'll find out sooner than later lol

rancid burrow
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Also throwing knives seems weird

summer wind
#

yeah

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i don't want throwing knives

fast swan
#

i do, would be very baller

summer wind
#

fatshark keeps being like "what if psyker could have a gun"

rancid burrow
#

eh ill suprses memory of discord always have

summer wind
#

dude i picked the magic class

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let me have magic

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stop giving me guns

fast swan
#

but if i had to make my own psyker ability, it would defninitely involve mind controlling enemies

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like renata ult from league

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possess many small enemies or a single big one

spice oar
#

give me a staff that just chucks rocks

rancid burrow
#

Those guns are clearly catered toward another subclass

white badger
summer wind
#

yeah

rancid burrow
#

Like Kurillians classes being both close range and far range

summer wind
#

zealot with flamer is just a psyker with an ammo counter

fast swan
#

i dont, my saw handles the hordes, revolver takes care of ranged specials

summer wind
#

psyker can horde clear literally forever

spice oar
#

side note the magic in dark and darker is so simple yet so fun

summer wind
#

zealot will run out of ammo

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and they're comparable

rancid burrow
summer wind
#

how

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do they run out of brain juice ammo?

rancid burrow
#

i think it was melee gobrrr

summer wind
#

melee isn't the strength of psyker

rancid burrow
#

no probably vet

summer wind
#

imo, anyway

rancid burrow
#

it was vet for sure yeah

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my bad

summer wind
#

vet isn't better at horde clear than a purge staff psyker

#

but they're not too far

formal glade
#

But hoard clearing isn't the entire game. If you're worried about hoarding, yes Zealot just brings a flamer and disregards hoards completely, and a psyker brings purge and does the same thing

supple skiff
#

melee should be zeolot and orgyns thing, and yet power sword exists

white badger
rancid burrow
#

Thats exactly what im trying to get at

summer wind
#

deleting them from the game is a hurdle dealt with

formal glade
#

Yes they are but they are NOT the whole game

supple skiff
#

I haven't noticed a difference post nerf with it

summer wind
#

next up is elites, specials, and bosses

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force sword force sword and force sword

formal glade
#

If the game was nothing but hoards, no one would ever die

summer wind
#

and ur good

formal glade
#

Literally ever

summer wind
#

disagree

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on paper yes

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but i see people die to hordes all the time

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even level 30's

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not sure how or why but it happens

rancid burrow
#

The game is nothing with houlnds

#

that's why we all die

supple skiff
#

tunnel vision

summer wind
#

but basically psyker is highly sustainable, very safe, and can deal with every situation at least well enough to get by

#

you don't have a situation you are just useless in

rancid burrow
#

yep thats why i think the psyker defense perks arent op

#

its so easy to get arrogant

summer wind
#

zealot with a flamer can't hurt guns, that's just how it is at long range

#

psyker can

rancid burrow
#

and a sniper will not play games

formal glade
#

Everything you just described is Zealot Khy_PepePoint

summer wind
#

i've played both to 30

long wharf
summer wind
#

we're gonna have to agree to disagree

summer wind
rancid burrow
#

its so easy to forget that in the heat of the moment because you feel invincible

formal glade
#

Cool with me

summer wind
#

peril blocking deflector

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you can walk up to them safely

#

you can pick them off with brain burst

#

you can ult and knock them all over at once and then flame them

supple skiff
rancid burrow
#

Yeah it's true I can tank just about anything

white badger
#

Well, most of them are horde-related deaths... you've got 20 poxwalkers crowding you, but here comes a bomber/ flamer/ hound. And it can be hard to find and target them in a horde

rancid burrow
#

A daemonhost hit gives me 80 peril on one hit

summer wind
formal glade
#

Brain bursting in damnation is almost always a waste of time Khy_PepePoint

summer wind
#

and can be shot the whole while

long wharf
#

brain burst is slow, and not a feasible answer to a wave of gunners outside of purge range that all have line of sight on you

summer wind
#

it's not great no

#

but it's an option

white badger
#

Yeah, zealot gap-closer is bollocks. It has no i-frames.

summer wind
#

you can do it and safely

#

and forever

#

that's psyker's strength

delicate field
#

looking for a team to do scripture missions

summer wind
#

psyker can do anything, safely

supple skiff
#

your not deleting a gun squad as a psker in a reasonable amount of time without taking fire also

formal glade
#

Saying brain burst is psykers strength is hilarious and pure copium

summer wind
#

you can brain burst through walls, so yes you are

summer wind
#

bb is good, but not where it should be for sure

rancid burrow
#

brain burst is simultaniously its best strength and weakness

robust meteor
summer wind
#

brain burst is highly useful at long range

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or against bulwarks

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psyker has tools for every situation, you just gotta know when to use what

prime herald
#

Should Psyker be going for Toughness or Health on curios? And any particular secondary perks? Hoping they fix +Stamina bug soon for Deflector

supple skiff
rancid burrow
#

Toughness always

full coral
#

is the kinetic overload any good on the purge staff?

summer wind
shut thorn
white badger
#

BB is always amazing to fish for that distant sniper hidden in shadows. Or the bomber running for cover. In most other cases, a vet can find and kill anything before you burst it

robust meteor
shut thorn
summer wind
#

but yeah i don't think psyker actually needs buffs, unless the other 2 get them too

#

it's more vet needing nerfs

shut thorn
#

Need to get up in 4hr

summer wind
#

brain burst, maybe

shut thorn
#

good luck tho

summer wind
#

the rest though i think is fine

white badger
#

I don't want to see vets nerfed. Vets are happy with their class. Let them stay that way.

summer wind
#

i do

formal glade
#

I agree with that statement as long as you believe BB needs a buff

summer wind
#

yeah it does

#

it has uses but it's not where it should be

shut thorn
#

someone go play w/ repulsed, 4x surge is fun af

formal glade
#

BB and warp charges should absolutely get some QoL changes

summer wind
#

warp charges are a bad mechanic

#

brain burst isn't fun to use and is undertuned

#

but the class as a whole functions

robust meteor
#

i must smell bad

white badger
#

BB just needs to scale with gear a bit

summer wind
#

yeah

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or level

white badger
#

... like egvery other damage source

summer wind
#

or smth

#

it not oneshotting some specials is obscene given how long it takes

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and how much peril it costs

#

i don't even use it for that anymore

#

it's just not worth it

formal glade
#

A random idea

summer wind
#

it oneshots gunners though so it's still useful to have

formal glade
#

But it would be interesting if warp charges were your brain bursts

white badger
#

It's for snipers, bombers, maybe trappers and sometimes pox hounds ๐Ÿ™‚

formal glade
#

And they were instant cast and charged with time/killing

summer wind
#

that would be cool

formal glade
#

So you could still use it like you do now

#

Killing high priority

#

But without a vet just doing it for you Khy_PepePoint

robust meteor
#

with non of u joining my meme run, it just makes me dislike my fellow psykers that much more. i've never accidentally rp'd so accurately

formal glade
#

Also tune the damage up a bit to better hit hp thresh holds

#

Its obnoxious that some enemies live with like 5% hp

summer wind
#

yeah

#

hate that

#

i do love how the force sword stuns targets, though

#

makes ragers a breeze

formal glade
#

I just wish force had better mobility, its the only thing I dislike about it

#

I refuse to take off my dueling sword because of it

summer wind
#

the mobility is sad

#

but the other bonuses are too good

#

deflector, elite melting

#

the push

formal glade
#

It absolutely covers one of psykers biggest weaknesses, which is getting overwhelmed by elites

summer wind
#

i think it's in a good spot

formal glade
#

Force sword can easily change that scenario around

summer wind
#

for sure

formal glade
#

But in the context of a vet dealing with them, its nice to just dodge with a dueling sword and melt/stun lock everything else instead

#

Melt and stun referring to purge and surge staff Khy_PepePoint

#

Please fix trauma staff thanks

summer wind
#

trauma staff has such good sound design

#

every time i use it, my ears hurt

formal glade
#

And visually looks awesome

summer wind
#

it's actually great

formal glade
#

But its gameplay is ass

summer wind
#

what if we had a staff that can only hurt a very small number of enemies

formal glade
#

I hate that it has that sweet spot mechanic

summer wind
#

and it only does about as much damage as 2 bolter shots

formal glade
#

The entire circle should just do full damage

#

Literally defeats the purpose of even charging it

summer wind
#

yeah

#

don't get it

formal glade
#

Would be dope if it worked like VT2 and left a kind of soulfire aoe as well to lock off chokes

lucid mortar
#

lol just got the untouchable penance on malice with 3 psykers, broke the game

humble skiff
#

how many resources do you need to spend on refine before you get infinite rerolls?

fair axle
#

Don't you just..

#

Love to join a game that fails

#

the minute you're done loading

lucid mortar
#

for diamantine

humble skiff
#

im asking for the added up values for both

#

is it on all the perk slots? or just 1 of them?

prime flax
#

They add up to nothing

fair axle
#

Around 200 before you are in free

#

for plasteel

#

depends on your quality for diamanthe

fading shoal
#

Should I?

#

Actually no, max modifiers is a trap

meager plinth
#

its prretty good

formal glade
#

Its pretty good

rotund cloak
#

I? Would

supple skiff
#

tainted by milkman,

random wolf
#

Crit perk with crit blessing

#

High stats

#

Yeah go for it

night marten
fading shoal
#

alright

night marten
#

BiS blessing, with high base stats, especially burn

#

AND a crit chance perk

fading shoal
#

Also Melk giving me 1 staff and the rest guns for Psyker again

night marten
#

that's actually a god staff

fading shoal
fresh reef
#

is MK2 combat axe worth using?

#

just got a 361 gray in the shop

formal glade
#

If you like it, go for it

fresh reef
#

I've literally never used one lol

formal glade
#

None of the melees are bad honestly, at least not that I can think of lol

#

For psyker

fresh reef
#

I mean like, it is comparable to the trash clear of mk5?

formal glade
#

No, the assassin axe is more about single target damage

night marten
#

due to block attack spam combined with peril blocking

fresh reef
#

not tac axe

formal glade
#

Hmm I dont remember the moveset of that one off the top my head

fresh reef
#

bought since I realized I have 80k dockets and its a gray lol

#

honestly it's not too bad

#

I mean, outside of the fact that the push attack is blunt

formal glade
#

Yee I tend to buy all grays above 370 just because they're cheap

fresh reef
#

it'll still stagger, but takes multiple hits to kill trash

#

though it is really funny

formal glade
#

Never know, might end up really liking it and will have a gray waiting to try at a roll

fresh reef
#

cuz you hit them with the side of the axe lol

supple skiff
#

without a max inventory, you're just as well, might be able to scrap stuff for mats later

fresh reef
supple skiff
#

oh, oh no

#

does it have a bad dmg role or is that type of axe just bad lol

fresh reef
#

"does it just have a bad roll" lul lul lul

torn bison
#

is psyker bug fixed?

supple skiff
#

OOF

fresh reef
#

should be noted that even though the push attack is bad, it can at least stagger with the best of em

#

not the mention the special attack

velvet trail
#

Seems more like antax is a bit of an outlier. I know the achlys push attack is pretty similar. Wide arc, pitiful damage

fresh reef
#

will have to test in an actual game, but I can see this being useful

formal glade
#

Lmao im refining a curio atm and like

#

Why is it after its free we have to still roll? Just give us the ability to pick what we want KEKW

#

We aint gonna stop till we get it regardless

fresh reef
#

true

supple skiff
#

that special does seem uselful, does the antax special stagger crushers, I can't remember

prime herald
#

Consecrate Curio -> Immediately get +6% ExperienceGutsRage

supple skiff
#

at work so I can't check lol

formal glade
formal glade
#

I've rerolled this curio at least 200 times waiting for ability regen to pop up elmofire

small hornet
#

I need help

#

I know this sword is good

#

But idk

#

Is it worth?

prime herald
#

Now it also gives me useless experience, going to reroll it after I get enough diamantine to get it to transcendant first

fresh reef
#

I'll trade you some diamantine for plasteel

prime herald
#

Is Toughness regen speed basically worthless?

fresh reef
#

personally I don't like +toughness either though

#

find wounds and max hp to be way more valuable

prime herald
#

Really? Seems like there's a big divide between toughness and max HP camps as to which to go for

formal glade
#

I feel like it's pretty obvious toughness would be what you'd want on psyker since your hp stat is ass and your toughness feats are % based and very easy to proc

night marten
stark nebula
#

Peril -> Toughness... chefs kiss

formal glade
#

I could imagine on something like Zealot its a bit more fluid since they can actually recover their hp

night marten
#

all those nice bonuses to toughness don't matter after two gunfire volleys

meager plinth
#

At the same time your toughness is constantly going to break, so the option would be to have a bigger margin after it breaks/ against corruptions / when pinned down

pine iris
#

run a lot of +1 wounds and get health buffs (+20%*2 is doable)

dense hill
formal glade
meager plinth
#

The most important thing about toughness is getting it back to 100% asap to get that melee protection

stark nebula
#

That weapon auto-quell fills your toughness while pinned. Feels good.

dense hill
formal glade
#

They finally let us use surge staff at 90% without going boom

#

And instantly took it away witha bug

sacred lodge
#

until they fix the effects for the surge staff to make it not so... erm... "eye-catching" as it were, what's a good substitute? wanna keep playing psyker, but I also don't want to run the risk of causing serious health issues for comrades or even people who watch me

meager plinth
#

For a CC staff, try purgatus

sacred lodge
#

...said concern coming up right after I get a god-roll for a surge staff, ofc

meager plinth
#

The m1 has a very high stagger

formal glade
#

Purgatus is fantastic as well

meager plinth
#

It wonโ€™t interrupt muties, bulwarks and crushers but it excels at everything else

#

Shorter range tho

next pine
#

Is this worth picking up with the damage roll being only 59%?

formal glade
#

I'd highly recommend as well going into the meat grinder and looking at how long and how many times you have to shoot with the purg before things are rapidly melting to get an idea of just how much damage it does

#

Cause my god it melts much faster than you'd think KEKW

#

And the range is much larger than it looks

meager plinth
#

It shines when there is a lot of things

sacred lodge
#

aah well, at least the purgatus in the shop had no interrupts on channeling, so I'm not beholden to RNG on that department

formal glade
#

I know a lot of people say that perk is a must for it, but I honestly dont ever get hit out of the channeled attack

#

Thinks get way too stun locked to even get the chance to

sacred lodge
#

it's a safety net, admittedly, but a nice one

rigid abyss
sacred lodge
#

especially for easing into the next tier of difficulty up

#

....at least until damnation.
screw damnation

formal glade
#

Hey damnation is fun! Until it isnt. Khy_PepePoint

simple junco
next pine
#

@rigid abyss no idea man. That's sorta why I'm asking. I'm generally a purg enjoyer and I know with it we don't really care about the main dmg of the attack. So I wasn't sure if that was the same here and if sustained fire made up for it at all.

formal glade
next pine
#

If i had currency to spare id buy it for science.

simple junco
#

Since Terrifying Barrage is already all too common, it does its job well for what it is

onyx sentinel
glass badge
#

SPeaking of peril

next pine
#

What are people's thoughts on warp battery vs kinetic overload when running the purg staff and ascendant blaze? After play testing on heresy and damnation I can't really come up with a definitive answer for if one is better than the other.

fair axle
#

Who would want terrifying barrage.. our staffs either stagger, stun or already suppress in a larger area.. totally pointless blessing

orchid nacelle
#

i love how enemies recoil in terror whenever you cast the trauma staff explosion

glass badge
#

one of my friends can click & hold the headpop, and can only do 2 before ecploding themselves, with or without right click, while i can get off 3.

Whats causing this distinction, i've tried both with & without warp resistence, and done tests where RNG doesnt lower mine but it still does 3

sacred lodge
#

people who prefer using mouse one over the charged ability?

simple junco
#

At least if you're running peril resist

next pine
#

@simple junco That's sorta what felt as well. Isn't peril resist just best in slot there?

orchid nacelle
sacred lodge
#

ideally I'd be able to find a build where I can just rush into a mob of enemies and get stuck in

...but at that point, I might as well check out #zealot-class

simple junco
#

Depends on your build, honestly

glass badge
orchid nacelle
#

weird

formal glade
#

It's not very consistent to shoot back to max, so you're either spending them when you cap, or trying to actually cap xD

simple junco
#

Also a great point

orchid nacelle
#

if warp charge generation were more consistent kinetic overload would be god tier

simple junco
#

(plus 6 stacks is a great starting point for another full burst of a Purg staff)

formal glade
#

Mhm!

next pine
#

Force sword and purg. Wrack and Ruin is just garbage and the extra damage doesn't fell like it helps meet and breakpoints. If it let me kill ragers in one charged force sword attack I'd run it but last I checked it didn't. It also doesn't help the soulfire ticks right?

low tulip
#

is this weapon worth upgrading? it's only 324 base stat, but the damage, burn and quell speed seems amazing

simple junco
#

Does Wrack and Ruin work with the FS alt?

orchid nacelle
#

if you proc kinetic flayer with it

simple junco
#

I feel like melee psyker would be viable if the alt counted as a BB

orchid nacelle
#

lol

simple junco
#

rip

rich cosmos
#

Psychic communion is a great way to get those extra charges, as long as the group stays together

simple junco
#

Until then, I'm running combat knife

next pine
#

@formal glade Ye I felt the same. I generally use the ult as a part of the combat flow to keep peril under control so it felt not great holding on to the ult to keep KE uptime. I donno.

rich cosmos
#

only 4% but it happens quite often still

orchid nacelle
#

i prefer the ult resets

simple junco
#

That 4% is noticeable when it's gone

sacred lodge
#

...I've not played vermintide, but was there anything for Sienna in those games that's similar to what I was looking for?

rich cosmos
#

it feels like the 15% ult reset has a cooldown

orchid nacelle
#

i can live without it

#

i want my vet to spam his ult

glass badge
next pine
#

If Flayer only procced on Elite or Specialist enemies I'd be so down but it's always just being eaten by pox walkers.

glass badge
#

melee wizards?

simple junco
#

If I'm running Void, sure I can definitely live without the 4%

sacred lodge
#

melee wizard, battlemage, something of that caliber

simple junco
#

But having max stacks is pretty much vital to a purg build

orchid nacelle
#

kinetic flayer is funny

glass badge
#

All 3 sienna careers had some good melee potential.

lusty herald
#

Hey sorry for the random question but did fatshark change anything? My 29 psyker feels so weak now

glass badge
#

To keep it short:
BW had fire sword and high DoT's
Pyro had crits on crits and fast attack speed
Unchained was a tanky MF, and gained increased damage with EVERYTHING at high overheeat

#

there's more Nuance then that but ye

bleak sonnet
#

unchained was so fuj

#

fun

next pine
#

Ye especially on diff 4 and 5 you get many communion procs. Really lets you just almost never use bb unless its a sniper or bomber

glass badge
#

I was a pyro main, i love that flaming skull.

lusty herald
#

Is the void strike staff the only way to go now?

formal glade
glass badge
next pine
#

@lusty herald Be a purg gamer

simple junco
lusty herald
#

I just ran through a heresy with the flame thrower staff and wasn't getting much done

simple junco
#

(also please do not stagger hordes with surge)

glass badge
next pine
#

IMO there's no staff or build that has the same dmg output of a purg build psyker.

lusty herald
#

I'll change it up a bit

formal glade
#

It sucks that the surge VFX is so ass currently too because they seriously gave it some insane QoL's

rich cosmos
#

lightning effects are disorienting now

sacred lodge
next pine
#

You can get so much done.

formal glade
#

Being able to use your channel at 95% is insane

glass badge
#

i don't have epelepsy, but if there's anything in this world that could give it to me, its that staff.

simple junco
#

Purg does help remove one of the wipe conditions if everyone is doing their job

#

If you have a good vet taking care of ranged trash, you're pretty much all set

sacred lodge
#

why I wanted to find an alternative, at least for the meantime, because I don't want to risk someone in my team dropping dead because I wanted to use the super zap stick

next pine
#

You can't ever get overwhelmed if you're playing right with purg build.

simple junco
#

Yuuup

lusty herald
#

Malice seems harder too

orchid nacelle
#

play right means "spin around every few seconds while holding right click"

#

become the psychic sprinkler you were always meant to be

simple junco
#

Compared to right clicking hallways, the game seems unintuitive when simplified lol

formal glade
#

You could unironically set your dpi to max with purg staff and just spin to win Khy_PepePoint

next pine
#

Well ye but also understanding what your job is and how much you can be ccing/dpsing

fresh reef
#

just noticed they finally fixed Heresy+ always having endless hordes

#

pog

formal glade
#

Its very fun to do.

supple skiff
#

void is fun if you can make it to the patrolling gun squad before your vet does

simple junco
#

Scattered groups, didn't cover flanks, didn't stun elites, etc

drowsy fog
#

Aw no more endless horde? But that was fun

orchid nacelle
#

should i reroll anything on this axe

next pine
#

It's a whole different mindset and playstyle ye.

bleak sonnet
#

infested

#

weakspot hit should 1 tap them alrdy

#

bonus dmg wasted

drowsy fog
#

Damn that's a beast

orchid nacelle
#

good call

bleak sonnet
#

check in meat grinder first tho

next pine
#

Like if there's a crusher pushing you're not dpsing the crusher you're killing everything around it and isolating the threat so it can be dealt with safely.

orchid nacelle
#

on damnation it does oneshot infested boys

#

currently

drowsy fog
#

I mean I'm also dpsing the crusher at the same time lol

leaden pier
#

pretty swag

runic gate
simple junco
#

That's a pretty good one

formal glade
#

I wish I had warp nexus on mine PepeHands

next pine
#

Ye same

kindred sphinx
simple junco
#

Doesn't it add extra stacks of soulflame?

leaden pier
#

crit rate boosts damage a good amount

#

i recall someone explaining how

next pine
#

@simple junco That's what I thought as well

formal glade
#

Theres no way crit is useless on it

#

When it crits it literally starts to destroy everything

kindred sphinx
#

Maybe ,I've seen the opposite, most of the dmg is in burn and crit doesn't matter much

formal glade
#

I'll run some tests later to check, I haven't tested its numbers in the grinder since I got it a while ago

#

But i recall seeing yellow a lot and my jaw dropping

simple junco
#

Yeah, I'm like 90% sure it adds an extra stack

#

Could be wrong, but something definitely happens

glacial abyss
#

crit turns surge into a free kill machine

leaden pier
#

if im running crit purge, should i got with the inner tranquility feat or psykinetic's wrath?

glacial abyss
#

I have all crit stuff on my surge itโ€™s easy to kill anything

simple junco
#

Inner Tranquility

#

You want your flame up as often as possible when you need it

#

Also PW only affects your staff's base damage, and doesn't factor into your burn's tick rate

leaden pier
#

also does psykinetic's wrath affect the fs' normal attacks or just it's special?

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cant quite tell, since most of my sword have that blessing that boosts power on peril

simple junco
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It affects both, but doesn't apply to your burn

formal glade
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Left is a crit left click, the right is a non crit

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So crits do add a stack.

simple junco
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The crit staff is reeallll

fast swan
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How would yโ€™all feel about psyker career that lets you possess groups of enemies to fight each other temporarily? How useful would AI allies be?

formal glade
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Sheeeeeesh the crits are yummy

simple junco
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Possessing crushers would be meta, and the game would just stop spawning crushers

rich cosmos
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lemmi possess a ogrin

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send in the gimp

formal glade
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Now I want warp nexus even more, depresso.

ashen ore
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what is everyones favorite dueling sword

simple junco
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Combat knife

rich cosmos
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chainsword

formal glade
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I honestly really like the both of them

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But if your aim is good

rich cosmos
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let my noodle arms cut people in half

fast swan
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I imagine larger elites would be possessed for a shorter period of time, bosses only would be briefly stunned. Possessing flamers and gunners would be strong af

formal glade
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The safety of the thrusting one feels really nice

ashen ore
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So neither of those are dueling swords

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one was atleast a sword though

simple junco
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Possess your veteran to mow down the enemy shooters

formal glade
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Well you dont need aim for the vertical cleave one

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The hitbox is very generous

pallid smelt
simple junco
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Crit, crit, and critical hits

formal glade
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Increases your crit chance with peril

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More peril = more crit chance

rich cosmos
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mmmmhhhhh

fast swan
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Actually never mind, give me a psyker career where the ability is a grail knight sword made of warp sauce

pallid smelt
fast swan
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Would be fun, passives would need to increase psyker durability tho

simple junco
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Force chainsword

pallid smelt
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how we feel about this

idle shuttle
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so like, I am getting locked at 100% peril

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cant quell

rich cosmos
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force chainsword is the way, it already auto quels your peril

fast swan
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Force fist please

ashen ore
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its a known glitch

idle shuttle
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its a new psych feature

formal glade
fast swan
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Force flail would be awesome

idle shuttle
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also if anyone watches avatar 2... theres a psyker in there

formal glade
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I personally can't use that staff below 70% charge rate

pallid smelt
simple junco
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Until FS gives you a stack of Warp Charge, chainsword really is the way

formal glade
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Ye but your initial hit will be very gross

idle shuttle
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looks like ill play orgryn until fatSHART fixes this quell bug

simple junco
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Your waveclear will be delivered in 3-4 business days

pallid smelt
simple junco
formal glade
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Like I said

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Its a preference thing lol.

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If you like it, then its great.

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I personally enjoy max charging my first hit and just instant killing most of the hoard before I need to use the second hit, relying on the second hit usually means rallying up half the group and making lining up the headshot less generous than when they're not aggro'd yet.

simple junco
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The only way a half charge would be generally useful is if you're trying to make space with a Purg staff

orchid nacelle
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should i keep rolling

formal glade
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Half charge is surprisingly good on surge staff as well

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Especially on Malice. If you only play on malice, half charge surge will kill most rooms instantly

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So its very peril efficient

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(Very useful for when you're speed running script missions on malice and below) bcaApprovingNod

orchid nacelle
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it would be nice if kinetic overload would prioritise ALL SPECIALS instead of just elites

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yeah i really wanted to light the poxwalker on fire and not the giant crusher

next pine
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Probably becomes best in slot imo

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Just free random bb's that hit targets you want dead asap

simple junco
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I wish it stored the extra 4 charges and you just insta apply them to an elite/special

next pine
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oh that'd be sick

fresh reef
formal glade
next pine
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LMAO

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nice

formal glade
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I love how instead of ignoring it too you stood there like "nice one dumbass"

pure peak
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Bruh