psyker-class

[royal granite]

literally lookin like an enginseer without the implants

[ebon sedge]

Why you guys playing surge staff when void staff is superior?

[spiral remnant]

in other news,

🥹

first ever 380

talk about bitter sweet

[empty granite]

That outfit sans the hood is legit a great looking one.

[sick mulch]

I hope you have a terrible day in the future

[shut thorn]

Get a non force weapon melee and just switch to it, the passive quell will be extremely fast

[bleak sonnet]

that outfit + the rebreather

[wide heron]

feel like Surge staff can save bad team plays, Void is only better with a competent team

[bleak sonnet]

seems peak

[maiden wolf]

What do y'all think are the best perks for a Purgatus staff? (Forgive me if this has already been discussed.)

[low tree]

True, and thank you for the response! I always have issues when trappers and the dogs come in packs lol

[spiral remnant]

base rating sorta carries the staff

[royal granite]

yeah that's what i'm saying, it's even got the segmented armour on the legs

[low tree]

I noticed that the other day! It was faster than the force sword. Thank you!

[empty granite]

Why is it the Surge staff sprint while charging the secondary attack is so much faster than the other staves?

[royal granite]

i just really wish they'd made a tech adept class

[empty granite]

I can sprint slide while charging the Surge staff and zoom around

[spiral remnant]

i'd personally use kinetic deflector and simply switch to melee when peril is full and yourr F is on cooldown

[open estuary]

the zealot set is probably supposed to be this

[wide heron]

with how much everyone talks about Ratlings in game, id be pissed if we dont get one eventually

[royal granite]

it's similar, but right now it looks like admech drip

[empty granite]

He looks like a Grey Knight that got cold, lol

[orchid nacelle]

ratling sniper with cloaking device

[shut thorn]

Every staff has different max sprint speed on rmb charge, surge was meant to be chargeable around corners, shame it has a drunk filter on rn

[open estuary]

Hes a mighty crusader thank you very much

[royal granite]

the devs have said they had to design the entire game around bardin being short in vt1 and 2, and since they didn't do that for darktide, we're never getting a squat or ratling

[low tree]

Ooh I did not know about this! Thank you! Is this bought from store or craft?

[orchid nacelle]

you can make your character like 4ft tall in the character creator

[empty granite]

Why would the Surge staff get that and not the Purg staff that needs to close that distance faster?

[spiral remnant]

kinetic deflector is a feat that replaces the movement spell quell feat

[low tree]

I had issues with force swords being single target and getting swarmed

[spiral remnant]

i forget what level it is

[wide heron]

devs also said this isnt early access but here we are

[orchid nacelle]

if you make your character minimum height your camera gets way lower to the ground and you can actually use those cover objects in the environment

[ebon sedge]

That's why u get void staff to deal with the crowd

[shut thorn]

Because purg has lmb stagger

[orchid nacelle]

and shoot through the little slot in the front

tall characters can't use those emplacement cover pieces

but that's why we have shieldgryns

[teal cargo]

Purg or Void

[empty granite]

Staggering the player? Same with Void?

[bleak sonnet]

@royal granite is the zealot rebreather still in the shop or gone

[open estuary]

a small price to pay to avoid manletism

[orchid nacelle]

it's accurate though

[shut thorn]

????? Purg LMB staggers enemies, why would it stagger the player

[royal granite]

see the little dots at the bottom of the page? there's two pages

all the old cosmetics are still there

they patched out FOMO

[orchid nacelle]

being under 5'9 is a benefit in the military

[bleak sonnet]

oh nice, havent launched in a while

ima buy that outfit

• rebreather

[open estuary]

Thats been disproven ages ago

[orchid nacelle]

not in 40k

they still believe it works, therefore it does

[empty granite]

I suppose my question should have been, why would a stagger effect not allow the same sprint speed on the Purg as the Surge?

[open estuary]

humans arent orks

[orchid nacelle]

lmao

[royal granite]

it's a benefit in the airforce tho

[open estuary]

also humanitys best warriors are 8ft tall

[orchid nacelle]

they're also living tanks

[shut thorn]

Because you can sprint with purg anywhere, lmb to stagger and then charge up a flame quickly

[orchid nacelle]

in power armour

[open estuary]

yeah cuz they are tall

[royal granite]

humanity's best warriors are 1: no longer human and 2: wearing power armour

[orchid nacelle]

the armour was made with them in mind

it wasn't adapted to them

[low tree]

Oh I just meant when meleeing. I am not English all the time, so all of the names confuse me sometimes lol

[shut thorn]

For infantry, being shorter is preferable for vehicle crews and pilots

[empty granite]

I guess so, but man does the Surge staff feel that much more mobile and better with spring charging

[royal granite]

anyway space marines are literally written to appeal to 13 year olds, the less we discuss them the better, the devs have said they won't be in the game, so that's the end of it

[orchid nacelle]

my point being that making your character tall in the creation settings is a debuff

[open estuary]

An advantage of comfort, not combat prowess

[shut thorn]

T5 4 surge runs rely on the sprint ability, or well used to because you can't bypass peril explosion anymore

[orchid nacelle]

unless you're an ogryn then you're the best boy anywhere

[shut thorn]

Shorter people can handle Gs better, shorter vehicle crews allow for a reduction in vehicle mass.

[orchid nacelle]

tallcels seething while us manletchads can actually see through the slots in those cover objects on bridges and stuff

[grand bolt]

does warp battery need to be done all in one 5 min chunk, or just 5 mins through the map?

[orchid nacelle]

i'm a pocket prince

[empty granite]

Surely that exploit wasn't intended.

[open estuary]

Manlets seething cuz they cant see over the fences at the football game

[royal granite]

no joke i'm 6'6 irl, and while that was fun in my early 20s, i am now over 30 and it has ceased to be any fun at all. nothing but foot problems, joint problems, back problems, head bumping into shit, can't fit into cars, i wish i could donate a foot of height to a trans man or something

[open estuary]

haha old

[shut thorn]

It got patched, but the sprinting is still useful

Surge would still be great if it didn't have a drunk filter

[open estuary]

the crippling passage of time

[grand bolt]

does warp battery need to be done all in one 5 min chunk, or just 5 mins through the map?

[frank moat]

I went min height so that the Ogryns would look even bigger

[shut thorn]

I don't feel comfortable doing T5 4 surge runs anymore due to the drunk filter obscuring stuff

[empty granite]

Right. I just meant depending on an exploit to be effective seemed wrong or disingenuous.

[covert cosmos]

Just get so drunk you don't notice the filter

[grand bolt]

anyone?

[royal granite]

IT'LL HAPPEN TO YOU TOO

[oblique junco]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/987756819302731837/1053707090058825738/image.png?width=866&height=870 worth a try to upgrade it?

[open estuary]

Wont that make it worse with the blinding surge effects

[spiral remnant]

oh yeah def

[shut thorn]

Just maintain max charges until you get the achievement

It's not like you're gonna be using a timmer anyw

[spiral remnant]

only 2 rating short of a 380

[oblique junco]

me a bit sadge, because damage is the lowest

[spiral remnant]

i wouldnt scoff at that

[shut thorn]

yes, ideal finesse, warp res and first target

[grand bolt]

yeah but how hard do i need to push to worry about losing the buff if i'm 2 mins deep?

[shut thorn]

• you have a stamina perk so it can tank well

[shut thorn]

wdym it isn't difficult

[pure peak]

I love this class

but now i ended up having to pay for a private team to play with

[shut thorn]

????????

[pure peak]

[bleak sonnet]

what?

[open estuary]

bro? you arent allowed to like psyker here

[royal granite]

complaining about our class is psyker culture

[pure peak]

because teams dont play their roles

[shut thorn]

why would you pay someone to play

[oblique junco]

thanksu! what you say about this one? got it by the emperor https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/512787763263832094/1053692395780309012/image.png?width=608&height=870

[bleak sonnet]

bro bought darktide boost

[grand bolt]

there are long breaks where it can fall off, in an elevator ride or dead time while people are looting. do I need to hurry along the team or just re-max after? that's why I'm asking

[empty granite]

Have the devs ever confirmed that Warp Flurry is actually working?

[shut thorn]

it has to be continous

[pure peak]

i pay for a marksman to shoot gunners and snipers. I pay ogryn to hold. Psyker does CC and brain burst on big bosses. Zealot or another marksman to rear duty watch.

[empty granite]

I cannot seem to ever get a slightly quicker charge speed from it no matter how much I spam

[royal granite]

the devs have confirmed that a lot of the blessings are poorly worded, so it might be working but we have no idea what it ACTUALLY does

[pure peak]

[grand bolt]

thank you, that's what I was asking in the first place, fuck

[shut thorn]

seems good, cloud radius as far as I know isn't really that important

[oblique junco]

thanksu!

[pure peak]

for actual team play

[oblique junco]

I got so many nice psyker stuff that I am not sure what to go for now

[royal granite]

a nap

[shut thorn]

you could ask people here like klipwc, music4therapy, vitamin(maybe?), etc

[devout belfry]

More fine additions to your collection.

[royal granite]

if you have enough money to pay people to play with you, you probably have too much money to have friends tbf

smh

[oblique junco]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/512787763263832094/1053685455402573844/image.png?width=604&height=870

[royal granite]

tbh

[oblique junco]

time to get an epileptic attack by sparky

[empty granite]

I JUST finished this one.

[royal granite]

imo the only thing that matters on a surge is charge rate, but that's just me griping

[pure peak]

just for higher lvl stages

[shut thorn]

That charge rate tho, rip

[devout belfry]

What is up with the surge staff visuals rn?

[magic burrow]

"chained secondary attacks" is kind of vague. It doesn't even specify a time window, and we don't know from which point the timer starts counting.

[shut thorn]

slaneesh is in ur surge staff

[pure peak]

tho got to say the pskyer shop is noice

[royal granite]

shame the prices are a bit steep

[pure peak]

since there is repentia stuff for zealots now i wonder if they get battle sisters armor

[empty granite]

That's why I asked. It's so poorly worded, but it gives you a SENSE of what it might do, but not EXACTLY.

[oblique junco]

yeah, but you don't really charge the surge to max.... or do you? not sure yet, haven't tried out this one yet

[devout belfry]

Welcome to Warhammer. Open your wallet.

[shut thorn]

it even affects min charge iirc

[devout belfry]

I never charge surge lol

[empty granite]

How do you know if it doesn't seem to work, lol?

[shut thorn]

elaborate

[empty granite]

It's useful and can kill pretty easily

[royal granite]

my girlfriend just got a 3d printer, she's been fuckin mass producing little resin mans for the last two weeks

[shut thorn]

elaborate this too

[orchid nacelle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8iotbByqUA

meant to put this in the other channel

[frank moat]

air quotes

[empty granite]

I'm talking about Warp Flurry and how we don't know what triggers it.

[true torrent]

The hood in the normal shop is pretty fly too

[empty granite]

That was in reference to charging the surge staff attacks

[shut thorn]

im not talking abt warp flurry

[empty granite]

My apologies then.

[oblique junco]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/512787763263832094/1053685896358141992/image.png?width=622&height=870
vs
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/512787763263832094/1053686120585642034/image.png?width=605&height=870

first one, is super good to horde clear - but useless if you run purgatus but yet the second has at leat a nice overhead heavy attack

[pure peak]

steel guard armor is in shop for gaurdsman

i feel like all the actual armors gonna be in cash shop

[ebon sedge]

Imaging using anything else than force sword

[shut thorn]

If they add SoB or Krieg armor, they'd make a stupid amt of money

Though I wonder if those will end up being subclasses

[oblique junco]

I actually have only used the duelling sword

[empty granite]

There's no way they won't

[spiral remnant]

huh....

[pure peak]

REpentia armor is already in here so i'm sure SOB will be in it

imma make a zealot for that now lol

[empty granite]

What's the repentia armor? Have you SEEN a repentia model on the tabletop?

[pure peak]

the hood

is in the cash shop

[shut thorn]

Zealot is great

[royal granite]

sibling, a hood is not armour

[shut thorn]

I've enjoyed zealot far more than psyker

[pure peak]

Its par tof the armor I mean

It counts.

[royal granite]

the repentia don't wear armour

[shut thorn]

The hood on repentias is 99% of their armor

[pure peak]

^

[empty granite]

I wanted to argue that, but repentia don't really have armor, lol

[pure peak]

FOINe Cloth

whats the age rating on this game

ma?

[shut thorn]

wasnt it 18 due to gore

or smth

[pure peak]

k then we wiill have repentai nude armor.

[devout belfry]

I use mine to print better head sculpts with actual fucking hair lol

[pure peak]

[shut thorn]

doubt it

[pure peak]

at least the mini red dress thingy

[shut thorn]

Why the fuck are the steam reviews mixed

Why are all of them complaining about vet nerf

Christ

Oh noo I can now only hit --->10<--- targets instead of INFINITE

[empty granite]

The repentia models are pretty ugly (not the design, but the aesthetic)

[royal granite]

the repentia aren't weird softcore porn for nerds anymore, they are marginally more reasonable

i was literally about to link that

holy shit are they ripped though

[empty granite]

Lol

[pure peak]

i saw ones with red cloth instead of black

[royal granite]

you think that's ugly? you're insane

[empty granite]

Yeah, they're Sisters of Battle that basically sinned, so they have to fight with no armor and suicide themselves into fights

[royal granite]

they are so cool

[pure peak]

now since there is back accessories sell me sanguinius wings for psykers plz.

[oblique junco]

unpopular question: is the current psyker "nerf" actual a bug or not?

[median terrace]

the faces of soritas has always been derpy/ugly

[empty granite]

They ARE cool. I mean they're designed to look kinda ugly, not super feminine and sexy

[royal granite]

which one in particular do you mean?

[empty granite]

Bug.

[oblique junco]

the quelling

[night marten]

fatshark acknowledged bug

[oblique junco]

thank god

[royal granite]

then yeah bug

[burnt python]

do u even lift, sis?

[pure peak]

depends on which ones we talking about

[median terrace]

whats going on with the quelling?

[pure peak]

Saints are pretteh

[empty granite]

The new editions, not the shudders old ones...

[shut thorn]

quell peril? It seems like it was an early attempt to fix peril bypass that slipped in by accident. It's way too consistent to be a bug.

[royal granite]

i kinda want to throw hands about muscles being not feminine, but this isn't my soap box

[empty granite]

Without delving into THAT mess, muscles are generally considered extremely masculine on that spectrum.

[pure peak]

debatable

[median terrace]

girls with muscles make plenty of sense

[shut thorn]

This isn't ogryn chat, what is going on

[empty granite]

SO HOW ABOUT THEM PSYKERS!

[median terrace]

its the faces that makes them so bad

[royal granite]

psykers? awful class, the worst, hate them

[empty granite]

Weird warp guys, amirite?

[pure peak]

Pskyers carry

[royal granite]

carry these hands

[empty granite]

These peril locked hands...

[spiral remnant]

love me warp

[pure peak]

most usless is zealot

[spiral remnant]

zealot goes hard...

[pure peak]

[spiral remnant]

i wouldnt trash it

[royal granite]

knife zealot

[pure peak]

marksman can do melee

[spiral remnant]

i play knife revolver psyker...

[royal granite]

running around stabbing bulwarks in the shield

[pure peak]

ogryn has melee

[mellow ibex]

There's a SEPERATE Corruption Resist Stat for Grims!? O_o

[pure peak]

we dont need 4 players doing melee

[royal granite]

i don't think any of the classes are bad, but going from veteran to zealot was rough after so many hours with the power sword

[pure peak]

what does zealot have

?

use chainsaw?

[royal granite]

i've seen a zealot erase a beast of nurgle with the thunder hammer, that shit owns

[empty granite]

Heavy Eviscerator and the newly buffed and good Heavy Sword

[kindred sphinx]

zealot is prob the best class, huge dmg reduction, big dmg and flamer is good

[pure peak]

I assue the zealot didnt have aggro

zealot would have just been swallowed

[kindred sphinx]

ogrn is tanky asf and much the same as zealot

[royal granite]

i'm not kidding when i say erased

it died in less than 5 seconds

[pure peak]

k i make a zealot

Name: Battle Sister.

[empty granite]

What difficulty? And was there an Ogryn throwing grenades at it?

[magic burrow]

the zealot voice actors are pretty good too

[royal granite]

3 or 4, don't recall. probably 3

[empty granite]

That ain't very cash money, battle brother...

[kindred sphinx]

psyker atm only has void spam which no one plays everyone goes surge 🤢

[pure peak]

i use void

voi is better than surge

[empty granite]

That's a bit of a generalization. I swap between Void, Purge, and Surge when I feel like it and per mission type

[pure peak]

Litterly void blows up entire hordes

[kindred sphinx]

exactly

[pure peak]

Surge just stuns

[magic burrow]

I never thought I would say this about any weapon that makes you shoot lightning from your hands, but Surge is boring AF

[pure peak]

Usless e.e

[royal granite]

i use void because it's more fun, but surge is probably better for team play

[pure peak]

naw naw naw Void on Choke point hordes

[kindred sphinx]

void is by far the best, the aoe even knocks elites/specialists u don't need surge

[empty granite]

Bait, but Surge deletes Flak and Carapace

[real temple]

well, vet with power sword also blows up hordes. anything does.

void staff psyker is irrelevant

[pure peak]

You have team mates for that

[kindred sphinx]

so does void

[pure peak]

more often than not team amtes go for elites

[kindred sphinx]

and void can headshot and get - warp on crit

• it pens

[royal granite]

you want a bit of ranged horde clear or you'll suffer on higher difficulties

[pure peak]

Void can litterly smash into 20 man hordes

[kindred sphinx]

so u can literally spam it non stop and just destroy everything

[empty granite]

Doing damage is still important.

[royal granite]

the void headshot is buggy, literally can't headshot some mobs

[frank moat]

Just make Surge use the BB head pop animation on kills, like Force Sword special

[pure peak]

you cant have all 4 players onto one mob

[kindred sphinx]

i always hs i've not seen that

[empty granite]

Yes, but can it hold them in place while your team gets breathing room?

[pure peak]

then u just get overwelmed by rear and front

[pure peak]

Void does knock down

[kindred sphinx]

yes void has stagger and knockdown

[pure peak]

lol

[empty granite]

That's not what I'm saying.

[kindred sphinx]

and that's on an aoe

void is literally the best

[pure peak]

^^

[empty granite]

Knockdown is less effective when you have a veteran that headshots easily

[icy harbor]

is surge fixed already?

[royal granite]

void doesn't stop mutants

[empty granite]

Not yet

[kindred sphinx]

when u get 5+ hs in a row cause of pen and u knock and kill 10 things at once and u do this every 2-3 seconds

[royal granite]

nope, still eye searing

[real temple]

I think it's easy to value personal damage too high. Surge support is superior.

[icy harbor]

so I will continue not playing the game

[empty granite]

Surge protects against Bursters and Mutants

[icy harbor]

thanks for the answer

[empty granite]

Your choice, but there are OTHER weapons and classes to play, lol

[pure peak]

surge is nice on open grounds tho

but id take void hands down in corridors

[white badger]

What is everyone's favorite attack pattern when trapped solo against a horde, with Force Sword?

[royal granite]

void CAN knock down bursters but it's a bit inconsistent

[kindred sphinx]

all the staffs have cc in a way but only surge and void have it in a way where it's useful but void doesn't fall behind surge in that regard

[real temple]

Surge is good when it matters. Void is good when it doesn't matter

[empty granite]

Block or staff, lol

[pure peak]

Void shot and force sword hit and then F and then Void shot and sword hit

w.e

[kindred sphinx]

surge is just easier to play but void is worth it

[royal granite]

hold block, push, backdash, switch to voidstrike

[white badger]

Lots of Voidboyz 😉

[royal granite]

void is more fun than surge, that's it

also if someone else has a surge staff you might as well grab void

[pure peak]

fire void through ogryn defender and blast a hole into the horde

lol

[empty granite]

I love all my staves! But not Trauma...that one stays on the bench...

[icy harbor]

purge CC is pretty good

[pure peak]

Trauma is fun. fire that on a bridge and they fall off.

[empty granite]

Void shots stop at unyielding and carapace

[pure peak]

meh ogryn will stop that

[white badger]

I prefer Purgatus to Void. Void has a much longer range; Purgatus has a much wider cone. I think it's a fair tradeoff

[royal granite]

trauma does less than void for like 8 times the peril

[pure peak]

while the void takes down the entire horde solo

[royal granite]

it ain't worth using

[kindred sphinx]

ye but it's short range and can't deal with gunners or sniper if u need to

[white badger]

Also, Purgatus (now) has a good AoE stagger on l-click

[kindred sphinx]

void 1 shots snipers and 2-3 gunners

[pure peak]

yeah purge cant fire long distants against snipers and gunners

[royal granite]

i agree, though i prefer void so I can pop ranged across the big rooms

[empty granite]

You CC the gunners with it or just left click

[low tree]

Okay I am really excited I just got the deflector sword first shop update. Thank you for letting me know about this!

[white badger]

Sniper=BB . But Gunners, yeah.. gunner packs leave me completely dependant on the team (Purg/ Axe)

[spiral remnant]

nice! no worries

[kindred sphinx]

right click always

[magic burrow]

I think Void/Surge/Purge all have their benefits and cons, but Trauma is just straight up busted and is outclasses at basically anything by other staves until they fix its supposedly bugged damage. If it turns into a slightly clunky nuke, that would be a fine niche I guess.

[kindred sphinx]

void has knock and stagger

[pure peak]

foine ill agree with this

[kindred sphinx]

and that's on aoe

[empty granite]

I mean, the OPTION to left click exists so you CAN use it

[pure peak]

but i still say void petter

better

[kindred sphinx]

i use my left click to release my right click

[teal cargo]

dmg not bugged, was ui bug

[digital pagoda]

Void so bad vs snipers too

[teal cargo]

its dmg is real bad

[magic burrow]

then it's just crap

[digital pagoda]

By the time the ball reaches brain burst would have killed 2 secs ago

[pure peak]

brain burst while overrun

doesnt work

[royal granite]

i really hope the delay on trauma/void/surge left cleck gets fixed soon, i would use purge way more if i could rely on left click to actually hit things

i have like 800 hours on sienna, if it just worked like her staffs i could fucking headshot moving targets across the room no problem

[real temple]

may or may not be too strong then?

[royal granite]

it was fine in vermintide

[shut thorn]

...?

You can cancel it

[teal cargo]

well it good for ccing cruhsers

[magic burrow]

so are the surge and void staff

[prime flax]

Are there new cosmetics for psyker?

[royal granite]

not that, there's a weird issue where in an actual match, the projectile won't fire in the direction you're looking when the animation finishes, but the direction you were looking when it clicked. it doesn't happen in the psykanium, but you can see it happen in live games

[white badger]

How did they handle Animation Cancelling in VT1/ 2. I don't remember. Some of the things people do with Voids is clearly unintended. Not sure if that will stay forever or likely get fixed

[shut thorn]

Bad ping

[idle shuttle]

anyone with a pocket ogryn mind tanking demonhost for me?

[royal granite]

same ping as what i had in vermintide and it worked fine there

[idle shuttle]

penance

or any boss

[magic burrow]

yeah, the Psykanium is hosted locally so you dont see the issue there, but in an actual game the projectiles go all over the place

[royal granite]

they do need to make hitreg local

[white badger]

Doesn't that lead to aimbots?

[shut thorn]

It is for hitscan, it just isn't for projectiles

[royal granite]

nah the lasguns have hitreg issues too

[empty granite]

You mean the Void railgun quell cancel?

[prime flax]

I make all my hoes play ogryn you can borrow one if you want

[shut thorn]

Never have encountered this, though* again I have pretty low ping to the swedish server

[royal granite]

i live in norway

[white badger]

Yes. The one where you're firing much, much faster than the base rate. The one with all the macros being passed around.

[shut thorn]

I have no idea then

[royal granite]

i'm like a brisk walk away from the swedish border

sweden is my discount grocery store

[shut thorn]

But what you're describing is entirely ping related

[royal granite]

again, it didn't happen in vermintide 1 and 2

[shut thorn]

And?

[empty granite]

It'll get patched. They were trying to fix other stuff with cancel frames and sprinting, but broke BB quelling at 100% and introduces the rail gun Void

[summer wind]

to me macros don't feel fun

[white badger]

VT1 and 2 were locally hosted

[pure peak]

vermintide i was going to buy till i found out

it wasnt 40k

same game i was told my azz

[idle shuttle]

worth upgradeS?

[shut thorn]

meh

[white badger]

Thanks. I assume that is true, and I hope so. Because I frankly don't want to run around holding down a macro key for 500 hours 😉

[royal granite]

vt1 and 2 still only have a single host i'm pretty sure

[summer wind]

nobody said you have to, macros aren't a part of the game

you can just play the game

[idle shuttle]

I made an ogryn.. too bad cant use myself

[white badger]

Nope. That is a 330 base. Look for at least 350 with good stat distribution. Ideally 360+

[royal granite]

the base isn't that important, especially on surge

[shut thorn]

void really needs the cancel, I don't get why there's recovery frames in the first place

[white badger]

Obviously. But I clearly mean to play the class at or near its potential. I'm aware I can just log in and putter around in any build I want

[summer wind]

i mean i'm passing 4s and 5s consistently by just playing the game how i want

[white badger]

Great. Would you purple that one?

[barren crystal]

is pick n' mix still glitched so you can finish it on Malice?

[shut thorn]

no

[barren crystal]

boo

[royal granite]

if it had better charge rate

[summer wind]

technically speaking, you aren't playing at your potential by not cheating

[royal granite]

well, i'd blue it to check the blessing at least

[summer wind]

macros aren't cheating, at least not imo, but it's an example

play the game to have fun, you're fighting bots

not people

[shut thorn]

FS has repeatedly stated that they're fine with macros

[summer wind]

yeah

[white badger]

Man, you just like to argue tiny, meaningless points. OK - you win.

[summer wind]

i don't like them

but they're fine i guess

[shut thorn]

And why would you be against macros anyw

[summer wind]

it's not a big deal either way, but it feels unfair to people who don't

and i'm not at all a fan of having the game play itself for you

[muted lantern]

Is there a way to see your actual connection? I feel like they removed even the basic information we had in VT to conceal how bad the servers are.

I keep getting ghost hits on things all the time.

[shut thorn]

It feels unfair to people who physically cannot do a lot of combos properly w/o macros

[summer wind]

i just click bro

[royal granite]

i like to see player skill rather than offloading work onto a machine, but i don't have anything against people using macros unless it breaks the game

[summer wind]

yeah same

[white badger]

I am not against macros. I use them in most games. I am against them when they double your damage output, or better, as that means people who don't use them are just too far behind.

[summer wind]

it doesn't take effort to just slap in a macro and now you're doing things optimally

[shut thorn]

Doing void cancel manually is more reliable than any macro rn

Cuz it's ping related

[pure peak]

i think its fine its not pvp

[summer wind]

macros should be for comfort, not for effectiveness

[white badger]

Sorta. A macro with a few ms buffer will be fine most of the time.

[royal granite]

macros are great for accessibility in games that don't have a lot of options for that

like for people who either can't mash buttons or can't hold buttons

[summer wind]

unfortunately that's not how they're primarily used

[shut thorn]

It still boggles my mind why staff lmb isn't automatic

[pure peak]

omg thank chu

[past parrot]

What if not having to contend with your skill issues makes you more comfortable?

[summer wind]

they tend to be used to get the absolute most possible dps consistently out of your weapon and all that

[shut thorn]

Get rid of the dumb recovery frames and make it automatic

[summer wind]

makes things feel sweaty

[spiral remnant]

seeing level 30 vets INSIST on unloading their entire supply of ammo IN RECON LASGUNS onto the target's shield is...

infuriating

[summer wind]

i guess, it's whatever people wanna do in the end

just not for me

[royal granite]

that's fine too, the problem is when macros make you better than ANY personal skill ever could

[white badger]

It doesn't look like they put a lot of thought into staff LMB attacks 😉 The only unique one is on flame, and that was useless until this recent patch

[spiral remnant]

they'll literally be 3 inches away from the targett and still insist on using ranged

[pure peak]

i want one of those classes for the bolter

l0l

[spiral remnant]

yah

[summer wind]

this is also an annoying point yeah

i will never be as good as someone using a macro in melee

[pure peak]

mang they play marksman to shoot not to melee

[summer wind]

that's just how it is

[spiral remnant]

?

you know the targets shield has a ranged defense bonus right?

[summer wind]

power sword wants to know your location

[pure peak]

they dont wanna bust out the shovel or knife

[spiral remnant]

and lasguns already dont do much damage

[pure peak]

they just want the pew pew effect

[spiral remnant]

i saw them go throughs multiple mags only to do like 1/4th of the shields hp

[shut thorn]

The only thing rn that comes close to being macro abusable is FS QQ click QQ rmb click QQ

[pure peak]

[spiral remnant]

yeah but we ended losing because they refused to play melee...

[shut thorn]

and thats still subpar compared to just antax mkv - > hold rmb - > hold lmb

[royal granite]

i'm guilty of this, i like hearing my lasgun CRACK way more than i like swinging my power sword back and forth

[spiral remnant]

😭 thats fine but atleast get the shield down first

[pure peak]

tbf i dont use my melee alot on pskyer

[summer wind]

the shield takes bonus damage from melee and his health from ranged, i think?

or at least it used to

[white badger]

It's so easy to play a vet well. Powersword for hordes/ heavy armor, then F + headshots for gunner packs.

[pure peak]

i be firing full void strikes at cqc

[spiral remnant]

yeah

[royal granite]

fair lol

[summer wind]

for me it's self defense only, and purge staff otherwise

purge does far far more damage and i can do it forever without worry

[fresh reef]

ayo

[spiral remnant]

a party of level 30s lost a malice game...

[summer wind]

even on 100% peril, just keep firing

it'll go down eventually

[fresh reef]

emperor gave me something spicy for once

[pure peak]

i have skill issue the controls be wonky for head shots

[royal granite]

sometimes i'll start swinging at a horde, tryna do optimal aoe damage shit, then i'm like "what the fuck am i doing" and swap to my staff

[summer wind]

i wanna level a vet so i can see how strong they are but i don't really like the playstyle

[shut thorn]

Thank god I was worried you upgraded a green to that

[white badger]

Hmm.. I am no expert FPS player, far from it. But I have a super easy time popping headshots with the Kantreal XII

[shut thorn]

[fresh reef]

lmao

[pure peak]

i tried vet but then no one held horde

[summer wind]

it do be like that

[pure peak]

then i ended up doing melee at the front

[oblique junco]

please my beloved, give me deflector

[summer wind]

vet, from an outside view, is the best class in every way once the power sword comes in

i'd like to see if that's true

[pure peak]

i end up play pskyer since it does everything

[summer wind]

it does yeah

it's really nice

[pure peak]

F for cc if get over welemed

staff for range

[royal granite]

listen veteran sharpshooter is ACTUALLY the veteran felinid. You climb a box, hide, and look at your teammates getting swarmed by poxwalkers while you bat at the ranged

[summer wind]

no weaknesses short of tons of gun enemies

[pure peak]

like yeaaaaaah

[summer wind]

and even then you can still fight them

[south zephyr]

Thoughts on this staff, Siblings?

[shut thorn]

It's honestly funny how unimportant damage is on the fs

[shut thorn]

subpar

[pure peak]

and when the enemies spawn from rear

[shut thorn]

nice rating but

[pure peak]

marskman gets f'ed

[shut thorn]

that charge rate sucks

[oblique junco]

I am out of plasteel to upgrade

[royal granite]

i got vet to 30 recently, it's true before you get the power sword too

[summer wind]

oh wow

[royal granite]

vet has solid melee options

[summer wind]

that 200 tgh (on the ranged sniper wtf) is so insane

[shut thorn]

lmao turn brain off and run sedition surge rush

[white badger]

Holyu cow... those are the best stats I have seen on a Surge

[spiral remnant]

pls buff revolver more fatshark ;)

[pure peak]

one game i was Vet. I didnt go down the stairs so i had height advantage to shoot.

[royal granite]

camo specialist lol

[pure peak]

Nugle spawend in our rear and killed me

[south zephyr]

to my understanding, you don't normally charge surge, so low charge rate shouldn't matter, right?

[white badger]

Exactly

[shut thorn]

iirc it still affects the time it taks to zap

[spiral remnant]

i know 21% hp exists but has anybody seen a 22%?

[shut thorn]

might be placebo though so would be nice if someone tested properly

[sonic aspen]

2 handed force sword when

[white badger]

In my admittedly informal testing, it's a pretty tiny difference for the normal surge quick casting

[shut thorn]

not even confirmed

the insignia is a reskin

[pure peak]

What I want is a bolter pistol + Sword

or dual bolter pistol

[royal granite]

veteran is so fun to play because almost everything feels viable. common pool guns benefit from your class features so you can use almost all of them, save for the really horrible ones, and still be effective, most of the veteran feats are good and useful so making a build feels like you're making meaningful choices

i could go on

[shut thorn]

I do hope they add 2h force sword but ngl it looks bleak af

[white badger]

Would pistol + sword be psykers or zealots?

[pure peak]

but then pskyer does everything that vet can do.

[summer wind]

massed gun enemies

[summer wind]

😔

[pure peak]

Get overwelmed EMERGENCY F button.

[white badger]

I think maybe you have not played vet much.

[feral crater]

You preaching the pros of vet in a psyker chat and expect not to be laughed at?

[royal granite]

psyker can't kill specials anywhere near as fast

[shut thorn]

two possibilities rn:
Fatshark won't add any new stuff to psyker for a long while due to believing the different staves are already enough
Fatshark is working on a big patch to add a lot of new stuff (unlikely lmao)

[summer wind]

new staves aren't what we need

[pure peak]

to pkek

top kek

[summer wind]

psyker has a single melee weapon

one

it's absurd

[royal granite]

i am a psyker main, i played my first 100 hours of this game almost exclusively as a psyker, when i talk about vet it is from the perspective of a psyker main

[pure peak]

staff is melee too.

[shut thorn]

don't worry we'll get a 2h heavy blade lmao

[royal granite]

two

[feral crater]

Yeah... Give me fists as an option....

[shut thorn]

and maybe an alternative 1h force sword

[sonic aspen]

I mostly want the visor that was shown in the psyker video I require my visor

[shut thorn]

but it might just be a skin

[white badger]

I am hoping for Door #3... FS tweaks some minor stuff for psyker, like Warp Charges lasting longer and BB scaling with gear

[royal granite]

we got dueling sword as well

[summer wind]

10 damage lol

[summer wind]

other classes do too afaik

maybe not tho

[empty granite]

Going from Psyker to vet would feel empowering, but vet mains trying a Psyker will cry

[pure peak]

can't be picky in 40k times ya know

gotta make do

[sonic aspen]

Dueling sword iirc is psyker exclusive

[shut thorn]

no

[summer wind]

huh

[royal granite]

yeah only psyker gets it for some reason

[summer wind]

it's kinda crappy but it's there i guess

[feral crater]

Don't care. You spouting propaganda in our chat. You are a traitor hahahaha

[summer wind]

doesn't really feel like a psyker weapon ngl

[pure peak]

Lets be honest

Pskyer is top tier in this game

[royal granite]

don't be weird

[pure peak]

rank 1 class

[summer wind]

you have force sword, the sword that has magic

then you have a rapier

that does nothing

but it makes you fast

[white badger]

I play 60% psyker, 40% vet. 220 hours. Vet is ez-mode compared to psyker, in 80% of all situations

[shut thorn]

[summer wind]

wowzers

[pure peak]

pskyer = primarh

primarch

[summer wind]

psyker is genuinely top tier compared to everyone that isn't vet

vet isn't a balanced class

[pure peak]

[white badger]

Luxxy, if you're just trolling, maybe don't

[summer wind]

and i seperate it from the rest

[sonic aspen]

I would argue we are mid tier at best

[pure peak]

wdm

primarchs are psykers

[summer wind]

i get that, but having played ogryn and zealot, psyker always feels the most useful

[pure peak]

thats the clooosest thing u gonna get to it

[summer wind]

not all of them

[pure peak]

[white badger]

Socko's right.. it's vets that are a huge outlier

[pure peak]

the good ones

[royal granite]

what about space marine psykers

[pure peak]

like bloody sanguinius ❤️

[summer wind]

librarians?

[royal granite]

yeah librarians

space marine psykers

[summer wind]

they're cool

i just want a skitarii

[shut thorn]

the ingame psyker is literally such a non threat they don't even get transported on a black ship

[feral crater]

What about Eldar... Why not add in chaos sorcerors

[summer wind]

or admech class in general

[royal granite]

aren't they closer to primarchs than regular human psykers?

[summer wind]

even a servitor lol

[fresh reef]

[summer wind]

yup

genetically, too

[royal granite]

i want an admech class so bad

[summer wind]

same

seems like a common opinion

hope fatshark notices

[royal granite]

i will never stop saying i want an admech class so bad

[summer wind]

we do have 5 slots for characters and 4 classes

[pure peak]

yall will regret when we start getting wings for psykers

[summer wind]

someone post copium

[frank moat]

Just imagine the fashion

[magic burrow]

I think the beta kneejerk nerfs/buffs just completely messed up vet and psyker

[frank moat]

🥵

[summer wind]

agreed

[royal granite]

idk, psyker is in a weird place

not a good place, not bad, just weird

needs a rework

[sonic aspen]

just add blanks as a playable class guys 🤓

[white badger]

Heck, in the last patch, they tried to give us seizures. You think wings are coming? 😉

[summer wind]

Kick.exe Engaged

[pure peak]

mang they want money

[summer wind]

when you have a blank your psyker takes DOT the entire time

[pure peak]

ill give them 50 bucks for white sanguinus wings

[shut thorn]

It's more of an issue of fatshark trying to appease people by avoiding making psyker op but they're going out of their way to do it

[pure peak]

on my pskyer

[fresh reef]

switching off of AB build because I'm getting bored, how's this look?

[empty granite]

While Skitarii are badass we won't be getting any as playable classes

[summer wind]

i just want the psyker armor from astartes

[summer wind]

you'd think so but i looked into it and it's not completely impossible

[sonic aspen]

the psyker screams the entire mission

[pure peak]

im sure the armor will be for sale

[summer wind]

and we did have a grail knight and shade

[pure peak]

at least

[empty granite]

For who, vet?

[pure peak]

but i heard there will be a 5th class?

[royal granite]

game developers don't want to make money they want to make videogames, otherwise they'd have gone into a profession where people don't routinely treat them like dirt

[pure peak]

ye

[summer wind]

game devs are one thing

publishers, are another

[vestal finch]

Psychic Communion is overrated, try Psykinetic Aura instead, it pairs well with Kinetic Barrage

[pure peak]

oh cmon all the good armors in this bloody game is in the cash shop

[empty granite]

I mean, MAYBE, but FatShark is doing a good job of keeping all the factions and stuff separate

[royal granite]

are you kidding? the coolest psyker fit is the penance unlocks

[fresh reef]

that's actually a good catch, no idea why I'm running communion with this lol

[pure peak]

i dun like it

[empty granite]

It's not overrated, just a more casual feat that will get you stacks passively without putting in much effort.

[pure peak]

i like mix matching making my own fit

[royal granite]

i quit communion a couple weeks ago in favour of aura, it owns

[summer wind]

what i expected when i heard inquisitorial psyker

what i got

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/988815066797338624/1053516620414328862/image.png

😔

[vestal finch]

weeew I can have my extra 12% damage more often... amazing

[royal granite]

in high pressure situations my shit is always off cooldown

[fresh reef]

I love aura. pairs esp well with ability cooldown curios

[pure peak]

watch them give space marine armor for vet

[royal granite]

tbf if you need stacks for anything it's good, otherwise you lose out on a shitload of damage from the opportunity cost of brain bursting

[empty granite]

Look, I can't defend some of the numbers because I agree they ain't great, but we have other stuff that cares about Warp Charges.

[vestal finch]

I wonder if you could make a push spam build with the first level 30 feat

[summer wind]

kasrkin armor would be cool

[echo parrot]

TIL you can apply cosmetics for one staff ontu a dif staff

[fresh reef]

mixing and matching is like, half the fun

[pure peak]

omg we look the same

[fresh reef]

square purg staff my beloved

[summer wind]

i can't get over how that veil matches nothing in the entire game

[pure peak]

ALMOST

[summer wind]

it looks so good on it's own

[pure peak]

[summer wind]

but the colors don't match anything

[fresh reef]

it matches the malice set pretty well

[summer wind]

kinda

it's way more ornate than the rest of it

so it stands out

[pure peak]

veil is red and that red thing on my skirt is red

it works

[empty granite]

BBing isn't really what I'd call reliable or good damage. It helps in a pinch or to start on an elite blob, but it's otherwise a bit slow

[summer wind]

i also wish it covered the motth but that's just me

[pure peak]

there is gold on my armor too

[royal granite]

yeah that's what i said

[summer wind]

yeah it's not horrible

it looks good here, even

[onyx drift]

how u get that headgear

[summer wind]

it just could be a lot nicer

[pure peak]

u buy it

[summer wind]

it sticks out a lot

[pure peak]

[vast oyster]

probably would've gotten that gold hood if any armor matched it

[onyx drift]

😔

[pure peak]

for like 800 in game currency

which is like

[fresh reef]

color matching is overrated, gimme more contrast

[pure peak]

9 bucks

[summer wind]

yeah gimme this

[fresh reef]

*5$

[pure peak]

ye 5

same thing

[summer wind]

yeah i don't get it

[pure peak]

only 4 dollar difference

[spiral remnant]

throne!

[pure peak]

[spiral remnant]

it's real!

i thought it was a hoax

[royal granite]

i impulse bought a bunch of cosmetics today, i deeply regret it

[empty granite]

9=5 you heard it here first folks!

[summer wind]

same

i'm rocking pennance gear despite spending like 30 bucks on cosmetics

it just looks better

[royal granite]

that steel legion outfit tho...

[pure peak]

tis a single digit

[summer wind]

IKRRR

[pure peak]

IKKR

[summer wind]

steel legion outfit best armor ingame

[pure peak]

[royal granite]

lmao

[summer wind]

worst is probably the psyker's toilets

[vast oyster]

very tempting

[empty granite]

It's an integer, it counts, right? Right?

[summer wind]

why does psyker keep getting toilets

[spiral remnant]

HOOOLY SHIT

THEY DID IT

[summer wind]

that's not even like, a lore thing

[royal granite]

i own more psyker toilet seats than i care to admit

[spiral remnant]

THEY MADE IT SO YOU CAN KEEP TRACK OF YOUR MISSIONS

[summer wind]

i didn't buy any because i can't stand them

[frank moat]

How do the red pants look with it, I feel like it would blend better than the camo

[pure peak]

They had a whole white armor last week looks nice

[summer wind]

i just buy the one piece from the set i like and move on

[pine iris]

There's a traitor on the Mourningstar. And a hair sniffer

[summer wind]

the white armor is nice

[empty granite]

Because in lore there are a lot of things that go around the head that amplify a Psyker's abilities,

[summer wind]

but the headgear sucks

[pure peak]

Hmm ill check that out soon

and get back to u on that

[summer wind]

yeah so give us that instead of toilets

there's plenty of examples of it

[royal granite]

the one cosmetic i'll never shell out for is the fuckin special edition shit

[onyx drift]

psyker buff when

[summer wind]

psyker is fine

[empty granite]

Stuff like this.

[summer wind]

vet is the problem

[royal granite]

except for the backpack, the white skull on black motif looks terrible

[pure peak]

My only problem with this game is i wish i can use those spells while using a sword

no t a staff

Imagine just using all those warp powers witih force sword

[empty granite]

That's what the empowered strike represents, but I also kinda want to cast as well

[royal granite]

unfortunately we are beholden to the gun-centric design of the -tide games

weapon-centric, rather

[empty granite]

WHAT? Gun centric?

[vast oyster]

I just wanna yeet people like

[empty granite]

Ok, lol. Vermintide was all melee almost

[summer wind]

why do we even have a sword

let us cast melee magic with the staff

[royal granite]

yeah i caught myself just in time lol

[summer wind]

swap to your melee weapon, and it's just your staff again but with new spells

like you swing it and it causes shockwaves or smth

[teal cargo]

There were ranged classes

[empty granite]

Because Force Melee weapons are cool and lore-accurate

[teal cargo]

Like BH or Waystalker

[summer wind]

they are but i wanna use my staff for it

[prime flax]

Because the force sword is real

[royal granite]

no joke i wish the staff was a melee weapon with a block and a psyker power on the alt fire

[summer wind]

same

[pure peak]

mang force sword is the best melee weapon in this game

[prime flax]

So are aetherblades where you teleport to the enemy

[pure peak]

melt people face

[summer wind]

they are but they're laaaaame

[vast oyster]

whatabout a staff and a sword

[summer wind]

well, power sword

but y'know

[vast oyster]

go Gandalf on those mfs

[summer wind]

why not both in one

[pure peak]

Litterly put warp power on the Force sword hit someone and warp his face off.

[prime flax]

You can do a force rod and a force sword

Or a force sword and a pistol

[summer wind]

ok hear me out

what if your staff, had a psyker blade coming out of the top

and you swung it like a big polearm

[royal granite]

i mean a force sword is already serving the function of both a staff and a sword in the lore

[pure peak]

you mean a pole arm

[summer wind]

or slammed it into the ground to make shockwaves

[pure peak]

[prime flax]

That’s a force halberd, it’s a real thing

[royal granite]

force halberds are a thing

[summer wind]

GIMME THAT THEN

[pure peak]

grey knights haliberd

[royal granite]

ye

[pure peak]

lul

[royal granite]

nah

[empty granite]

Force Halberds exist in lore, but only for Grey Knights.,

[royal granite]

we're not getting anything fun

[summer wind]

grey knights are so lame to me

[royal granite]

well that's kinda pessimistic

[summer wind]

they're cool on paper but then like

[vast oyster]

sure give me that wrist mounted storm bolter while you're at it lol

[royal granite]

maybe, let's keep our hopes up

[summer wind]

"also they're secret and seeing one means you have to die"

[empty granite]

Take that BACK, sibling!

[summer wind]

wtf

[fresh reef]

so what I'm hearing is

[summer wind]

EXACTLY

[royal granite]

there IS art of a human sized force halberd

[prime flax]

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer40k-grey-knights-gif-25209492

[pure peak]

wait correct me if im wrong

but the emperor of mandkind sword is a force sword?

??

[royal granite]

it's the cover art for a novel, haven't read the novel itself yet though

[summer wind]

yes

it is

[empty granite]

THE ONE TRUE BLADE!

[pure peak]

K gimme that

[summer wind]

and guilliman uses it somehow

[summer wind]

it would be larger than your character

[empty granite]

Goddam I love me some Grey Knight Terminators

[vast oyster]

yeah I never got that

[pure peak]

it will be a skin

[royal granite]

i can't stand grey knights

[summer wind]

it has energy left over from the emperor or something

[pure peak]

we getting flaming sword

[royal granite]

matt ward made them awful

[summer wind]

visually, they're nice, i love the halberds and the wrist guns

but the lore sucks

[empty granite]

9th edition release was good, but lacked some Terminator flavor

[royal granite]

yeah visually the aesthetic is pretty decent

[summer wind]

force sword with soul blaze is the best you can do rn lol

[prime flax]

I just want to use an aether blade and a force rod

[royal granite]

can force sword even have soul blaze?

[summer wind]

but yeah i just want some more force weapons

yes

i think

[royal granite]

neat

[summer wind]

it's not like, useful

but it's there

[pure peak]

k ill amke do

ill use that

[summer wind]

i think i have one

[royal granite]

can't wait for an actual pyrokineticist subclass

[summer wind]

lemme boot the game and check

[royal granite]

so i can be discount sienna

[summer wind]

cooler sienna

i'm sorry

[coarse narwhal]

I want the rebel Psyker's armor from Astartes as a cosmetic

[summer wind]

SAME

any psyker from astartes, really

[pure peak]

MArksman Astartes subclass

[summer wind]

please don't do this

i beg you

[royal granite]

the psykers in astartes were so cool

[summer wind]

no marines

[summer wind]

astartes made space marines cool somehow

[prime flax]

A wyrd staff would be cool too

[summer wind]

i was really impressed

[royal granite]

hard disagree, they look like dorks

[vast oyster]

yeah those masks they have are just chefs kiss

[royal granite]

nothing can undorkify space marines

[pure peak]

no

[summer wind]

that's fair, i just like how they were handled

[pure peak]

that thing is bloody ugly

[summer wind]

it's as good as marines can get

[pure peak]

[royal granite]

they shit in that power armour you know?

[prime flax]

https://tenor.com/view/astartes-punch-warhammer40k-warhammer40k-lamenter-ork-spacemarine-gif-19069763

[royal granite]

those are power diapers

[summer wind]

big, clunky, and smart

but that's about it

[coarse narwhal]

yes

[pure peak]

if they do make an astartes class everyones gonna play that

[summer wind]

mf power diaper

[pure peak]

[coarse narwhal]

[summer wind]

they better not

[prime flax]

They won’t make an astartes class

[pure peak]

sub class

[summer wind]

a skitarii class would fit the power scaling

a space marine would be just

[prime flax]

They will probably make an adeptas sororitas class though

[summer wind]

obscene

[pure peak]

waiting for that

actually

[summer wind]

zealot is basically a repentas

[pure peak]

i bought a bunch of aquila just in case they release sioritas armor

[summer wind]

that's actual power armor

doubt it'll come up

[vast oyster]

kinda missed an opportunity to not use a sword and a las pistol at the same time tbh

[pure peak]

it will just be cosmetics

[royal granite]

zealots are part of the ministorum, meaning they're only allowed to carry weapons because they're not a trained soldier

[prime flax]

They just released sororitas in martyr, gladius AND battlesector so they probably will

[steel horizon]

I could see a female-only zealot class that's totally-not-sioritas-trust-me

[summer wind]

is the mechanicus in any of those games?

[prime flax]

Yes

[royal granite]

why won't they let us use the kerillian eyes with the blue psyker eyes?

[summer wind]

which

[prime flax]

You can play as a tech adept in martyr

[summer wind]

oh nice

also:

[pure peak]

what would be the 5th class anways?

[summer wind]

emperor's gift

[prime flax]

Martyr is Diablo but 40k

[pure peak]

since 5 character slots

[summer wind]

(useless but cool)

[pure peak]

???

a xeno?

[sonic aspen]

enforcer

[summer wind]

we're order hereticus so i doubt it

[royal granite]

oh cool, shame 2 stacks does nothing, but still cool

[prime flax]

Inquisition can use power armor too

[summer wind]

psyker has a voice where they are

or, were

[pure peak]

ooh i forgot about them

[mellow ibex]

There's a lot of Ratling dialogue lines, so it'll probably be that.

[coarse narwhal]

there's a bunch of voice lines mentioning ratlings

[steel horizon]

Begging for a skittarri but
Honestly I kinda expect it'll be something lame.

[coarse narwhal]

[summer wind]

skitarii would be absolutely badass

[pure peak]

Enforcer with shield lmao

[prime flax]

Yes expect ratling

[steel horizon]

Alot of those lines mention ratlings being useless for the job.

[pure peak]

another hooman ogryn

[summer wind]

and they're pretty underrepresentated given how many there are

[steel horizon]

So I'm not convinced.

[royal granite]

fingers crossed for SOME member of the admech

[summer wind]

yeah

even a servitor would be nice

[coarse narwhal]

i'm not sure how they'd differentiate from Veteran tbh

[pure peak]

naww watch it be a demoted astartes or something

[prime flax]

Guardsmen that served with auxiliary legions love ratlings and ogryn

[summer wind]

skitarii are very different to guardsmen

[pure peak]

[royal granite]

honestly kinda wish they'd given ogryn's tank role to a heavily mechanical tech adept

[summer wind]

i'm cool with ogryn being the way it is

but i want both