psyker-class

[ornate hamlet]

Ah, thank you, that clears it up

Damn I love this class

Brain bursting something when it runs off and nobody can even see it feels so good

Tbf I've seen people saying that this class needs a buff and as I'm not informed enough to know why, if it does get buffed, I'm gonna love playing it even more 😁

[fast swan]

everyone wants a power fist but in lore are their force fists? there definitely should be

playing doomfist in darktide

[orchid nacelle]

punching things with telekinesis is relatively close

[fast swan]

force fist would be so insanely fun no matter how they do it

[fast swan]

more damage at higher peril

[orchid nacelle]

all that i want is more powers for my psyker to cackle maniacally whilst using them

[Mad/Pained laughter]

[uneven sparrow]

Screme

It sounds nice

[fast swan]

i want a laser that plays like moira ult from overwatch

massive piercing laser that does good damage but causes more peril the longer you shoot it

[orchid nacelle]

telekines are overloaded with gameplay potential

being able to jam ranged weapons would be huge

being able to just turn off shooters

[fast swan]

naw not cool enough

possess several enemies like puppets

or a single storng one

make a group of enemies in an AoE target allies temporarily

[orchid nacelle]

okay how about a gigantic tornado of telekinetic force

[fresh reef]

I don't get it. How does a non-p2p game have some inconsistent connection quality?

[orchid nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/dragons-dogma-wizard-tornado-action-rpg-rpg-gif-16543812

psykers can do this

[sick kindle]

I'm for builds and playstyles that aren't reliant on 'Just roll another class LOL' This sounds good to me.

[fast swan]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-i-have-seen-unspeakable-things-i-have-seen-things-i-have-seen-thngs-cat-cat-has-seen-things-gif-25793508

can sanctioned psykers mind control enemies and make them fire on their own/selves?

[orchid nacelle]

well yeah

[fast swan]

would be a lit ability but idk if lore fitting

ah good

[orchid nacelle]

psykers in 40k are a rabbithole

[ornate hamlet]

is there any way to see which mission you dont have completed, been stuck on 6/7 for a fat minute and no idea which mission it is

[orchid nacelle]

there's the surface layer of them just being space wizards and it doesn't have to go deeper than that

[fast swan]

some other penances tell you how many of each mission youve done

[echo parrot]

Ngl zealot drip making me want to level zealot more

[fast swan]

i know im farmiliar with the lore i just dont know if an imperial psyker is allowed to touch a heretic mind to control them without fear of corruption

[orchid nacelle]

funny

[echo parrot]

I just hope I dont end up leaving my roots

[orchid nacelle]

psyker's drip made me stop playing zealot

lmao

[fast swan]

that new psyker hood with the gold ornaments is wonderful

zealot needs one just like that

veteran gets all the good drip and overpowered tools

throw us a bone

[orchid nacelle]

i guess then it's more of a case of them imposing their OWN will onto the heretic in question

in the same way that interrogators use telepathy to extract information

[echo parrot]

Well yeah, but only beast psyker drip has going for it is the penance set, and I really like the new preacher shop set

[valid wigeon]

I bought the zealot outfit thinking it was for the psyker. Gotta learn to read before clicking. lol

[echo parrot]

Yeah that threw me off as well

So glad I didnt insta buy from the featured section

[valid wigeon]

I mean I don't regret it. I play zealot sometimes and it looks badass. Just wish I could play him more, but for some odd ass reason I get 4x the amount of crashes when I play zealot. I don't know why.

[fresh reef]

fashion check, how we lookin?

[orchid nacelle]

hol up

[high agate]

Well I couldve gotten Malleus Monstronum because i was soling a Beast while my team was dead. But the fight took so fucking long because BB does such shit damage I ended up dying to a trapper after killing multiple ragers, 2 dogs and 2 mutants during the fight

[vast helm]

can someone tell me if the left one has the potential to be better than the one on the right? just looking at the perks and blessing. is it worth investing to upgrade the left one?

[echo parrot]

Biggest pet peave I have for zealot is the class fantasy. I dont have interest in being a fanatical zealot for the emporer, but its the class that is super melee focused and if you like melee you are shoehorned into that fantasy.

[worldly hedge]

Spark 'ead says he's buzzin'

[valid wigeon]

God I feel you, I really want that penance too. But unless I want to inconvenience pug teammates I ain't going to happen. I have a few friends that play, but only 1 could probably handle heresy level. So long story short. I will never get it. Which is a bummer.

[orchid nacelle]

my friend drew me this picture

in response to seeing my MC Ride psyker

[fresh reef]

I can't unsee it

[orchid nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/death-grips-gif-20845611

[worldly hedge]

ohio

[orchid nacelle]

sitting at 100 peril waiting for the bug to release me

[high agate]

Yeah people here say to go to the Ogryn chat and ask them for help. Its basically impossible unless your whole team dies in a Pug and even then its hard as shit because itll spam spend disablers after you if youre solo

[fair saddle]

yeah whats up

[valid wigeon]

Yeah, I thought I might hit up some discord peeps. But I dunno. It's against my nature to ask for things. I'm weird I guess. lol

[fair saddle]

malice

[valid wigeon]

Oh, did they fix the pysker bug stuff yet?

[orchid nacelle]

i would kill for a psyker cosmetic like the one from the astartes short

[fair saddle]

which bug stuff in particular? i actually noticed a new bug yesterday where bb'ing to 100 peril doesnt let you vent for a few seconds half of the time

[teal needle]

I just want a hat that doesn't look like a public urinal

[valid wigeon]

That exact one is the one that hurts the most!

Guessing it's still there then. lmoa

Haven't got to actually play yet today. Got wifey and kids coming home soon. Just jumped on to browse the new cosmetics, cause I'm a fashion whore. 😄

[echo parrot]

I could def see MC Ride being a psyker.

Death Grips albums are just captured warp exposure distributed to the masses.

[orchid nacelle]

Mr. Grips himself screams like a psyker too

[supple skiff]

that or a noise marine

[fair saddle]

not entirely sure but im fairly certain this was the boss just hitting me

[summer wind]

thoughts on the new psyker cosmetics?

[teal needle]

Poopy

[summer wind]

agreed

the veil is cool but it matches with literally nothing

and costs 700 (lol)

[night marten]

what

[summer wind]

really makes you feel like a psyker

[night marten]

^

[tawny maple]

looks too much like a previous one

[fair saddle]

learned to do this the day after i just assumed it was better to do uncharged since thats how fb staff is in vt

[night marten]

how does the veil not match with malice chestpiece

[teal needle]

Ah, right, I only looked at the bundle. That hoods looks okay

[solemn violet]

Visas Marr is that you?

[summer wind]

how does it

[night marten]

red and gold trim?

[summer wind]

it looks fine until you turn it sideways

it's an extreme amount of gold trim vs a very small amount

[night marten]

that looks just as good imo

[summer wind]

making it look way fancier and more ornate than everything else

[night marten]

just a taste difference

[summer wind]

it looks like it's from a different armor piece

i guess

for me it's more how balanced it is with the armor

they don't mesh well for me

the front is very cool though

really sad about psyker headgear in general though

i haven't liked any of it tbh

best thing i've found is pennance hoods

and those i just barely like

[solemn violet]

I just want the Emperor to stop gifting me recon lasguns

[night marten]

I've really liked every penance headgear *for psyker, the goggles are kind of questionable, but they still work

[summer wind]

yeah

[solemn violet]

My Beloved doesn't know that I'm a staff psyker

[summer wind]

they're fine on their own but i set my height low

and i look like a child in psyker armor

it's just way too bulky

[jovial frigate]

im so tired of urinal attachments

[summer wind]

same

[fresh reef]

is it just me or is deflector too inconsistent when it matters?

[summer wind]

i wish i could re-color the headgear though

[summer wind]

really low block angle, doesn't work while sprinting

[night marten]

the limited block angle forces you to maintain great positioning. an enemy hitting you in the back can knock you out of it causing you to get chain stunned

[summer wind]

still the only psyker armor that looks good on my character, and even then no headgear is maybe better

[night marten]

now that's a look I can't stand

what were they thinking making that cost aquillas

[summer wind]

i really like the armor itself

the headgear is just the only one that isn't the size of a toilet

or the shape of a toilet

[jovial frigate]

i dont have too much issue with deflector myself

[summer wind]

i usually just do this

[jovial frigate]

the only acceptable urinal so far

[summer wind]

that's a cool urinal yeah

i don't like the mask though

the rest of the armor is this really fancy metal plate with some cloth bits for decoration and then you've got like

a rag with a face on it

[jovial frigate]

i do wish the mask was toggleable at times

[summer wind]

yeah

[cyan notch]

gloves are garbage

[summer wind]

i'd use it if you could

[night marten]

looks like some shit from hot topic

[cyan notch]

take up way too much space in first person

[summer wind]

it does lol

[night marten]

but the rest of the founders set looks great

[summer wind]

the founder's set looks better than the pennance armor tbh

in places

[long wharf]

liar.

[summer wind]

i prefer the red, don't get me wrong

but the gloves and shoulders look a lot nicer

[jovial frigate]

i cant use the founder chest because they 'fixed' the clipping chest piece but not enough

so you still have random pieces poking out of your chest

[summer wind]

🥺

[night marten]

eh, the checkboard on the founders is the biggest downside. the penance gear is really solid all around (though some people can't stand the green belt )

[summer wind]

yeah i don't like the pattern

i'd use it otherwise

the gloves are really cool

a lot better than the pennance ones

looks like i shoved my hand in a cooking device of some sort

[jovial quail]

Does anyone have this notification problem? I've had it since launch only on Psyker and its driving me up a freaking wall lol

[summer wind]

pipe doesn't even connect to anything

[night marten]

everyone

[summer wind]

yup

[jovial quail]

[fresh reef]

is deflector block angle 360 when reviving someone?

[night marten]

yes

[cyan notch]

no

[jovial frigate]

plebians

[cyan notch]

deflector is directional always

[summer wind]

yes

it is

[night marten]

I take 0 damage while reviving

[summer wind]

reviving becomes trivial with it

ult, start reviving

100% chance it'll work

[jovial frigate]

dont even need to ult

[fresh reef]

noted

[cyan notch]

ive gotten shot with deflector ressing

[summer wind]

yeah it's for safety

[jovial frigate]

just spam pushblock ur way over and then rez

[summer wind]

peril blocking?

[cyan notch]

yes

[summer wind]

bug or something

[night marten]

question is whether you're going to survive 5-6 dudes bashing you the millisecond reviving is done

[summer wind]

or a sniper maybe?

[cyan notch]

no

[summer wind]

it definitely works for me

[burnt python]

you can hold block as you come out of the animation

[cyan notch]

i dont believe you

[cold oasis]

deflector is stillll directional

[night marten]

sniper bypasses deflector, you can get dogged or tackled by mutant

[burnt python]

you can even start swingin ur wep before the animation is done

[cold oasis]

if they shoot from behind you you get hit

[summer wind]

i guess i'm just lucky

[fresh reef]

most efficient way to deal with shooters on psyker?

[jovial frigate]

there has been some weird interactions when at absolute 0 stamina and peril block so maybe a 0 stam block revive can have the same issue

[night marten]

na, I'm 360 blocking while reviving with deflector FS as well

[brave vale]

fell asleep during a surge staff damanation playthrough today

[fair saddle]

sit behind a wall and bb for 10 hours

[cold oasis]

Deflector block till you melee them, or just cry in voicechat for a veteran to deal with them

[summer wind]

it's not really psyker's job yeah

you can

but it's not ideal

[fresh reef]

walk into melee range
3/5 of them walk backwards two feet and just gat me anyways
soupreshun

[summer wind]

squads really should work like tabletop tbh

they need to remain within a set distance, when one enters melee they all have to enter melee

it'd be a lot less frustrating

[jovial frigate]

you forgot where you try once to peek for a single bb and the specialist supression fire turns your screen instantly black

[summer wind]

i haaaaate how guns slow you down when they hit you

it's so unfun

i'd rather they deal more damage

this just sucks

but yeah i'm so glad i can play as a tactical woodland toilet now

[high agate]

I feel like theyre supposed to in game, its just shitty and buggy and never works right as of right now

[fresh reef]

quell bug really hurts on trauma staff

[cold oasis]

For like 3 days the enemy did work as they should

[summer wind]

tactical toilet gaming

[cold oasis]

Not it's fucked again

[summer wind]

we don't have one i thought

[leaden pier]

is that a force sword skin i see?

[summer wind]

yes, it's a good skin but it's woodland camo

so it only goes with the set

[high agate]

Ogryn and zealot weapons only

[leaden pier]

perhaps it's time to toiletbowl psyker

[summer wind]

it'd look badass if not for this gross camo

[loud girder]

oh fuck wrong channel my bad >_>

[loud girder]

yeh agree

kinda makes it less nice

[summer wind]

yeah i can't use this

i love how the psyker skin has an autopistol skin, too

[sour bison]

welp, lets just w8 next rotation

[summer wind]

yeah i'll see you in 2 weeks

[night marten]

straight up woodland camo from a modern shooter or something

[summer wind]

yeah

[night marten]

on a grimdark, scifi shooter

[summer wind]

it looks so bad

[night marten]

wtf.

[summer wind]

psyker feels like the class that gets shat on all the time

[sour bison]

woodland camo in hive city

[summer wind]

and then they give us toilet helmets

[sour bison]

feels great

[summer wind]

i swear

anyone got this btw?

i wanna see what it looks like

[night marten]

some of the shop cosmetics have the same problem. kinda bullshit/cheap looking camo patterns on my fucking psyker's gear. just what?

[cyan notch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1050006138030149712/darktide_force_sword_revive_2_heresy.mp4

[summer wind]

yeah that ain't how it works for me

not sure what's going on there

looks like a bug

[night marten]

is that with deflector?

im completely immune to gunfire when reviving

[summer wind]

i didn't see you block a single bullet lol

[high agate]

Probably gonna be 90% shit cosmetics and 10% good ones like in verm

[jovial frigate]

hope you like ogryns peeing on your head on accident

[high agate]

They need to hire new cosmetic designers

[summer wind]

jesus

got a side view?

[jovial frigate]

not right now but its worse

it adds another 2 feet to ur char

[summer wind]

it pains me how ugly psyker cosmetics are

do you think there's a favorite class?

[cyan notch]

this looks shit

[echo parrot]

https://i.redd.it/ttprcmfwn66a1.png

[proven wedge]

Steel legion is a trap. Waiting on the juicy krieg

[echo parrot]

How it feels to get an emperors gift

[summer wind]

steel legion > krieg in coolness

krieg might have cooler uniforms though

[woven crow]

You cant have good cosmetics if you also have to keep stuff in lore

[proven wedge]

If krieg gets a stylish breastplate. mmph

[summer wind]

you can though

there are several cool psykers in 40k

they just keep picking the toilets

(astartes is a good example)

[woven crow]

Yeah but I mean, it's all much of a muchness

[summer wind]

what

[unreal comet]

You know, since GW owns that astartes animation thing now
I wanna look like the sancitoned psyker from that

[summer wind]

yeah

that would be awesome

[unreal comet]

https://tenor.com/bPq4s.gif

this guy

[summer wind]

pls

[woven crow]

Like everything looks pretty similar, it's not like games where the artist can make stuff that's a bit more out there, I wouldn't want it either, but just saying

[vital bough]

In my experience, you can block melee in a 360 radius but not ranged with deflector, just in front of you

[summer wind]

it really doesn't, there's a lot to work with

it's a matter of picking the right stuff to work with

[proven wedge]

Inquisitor Martyr has some sexy psyker armor. I am sure we will see more variety down the line

[summer wind]

i got all excited when i heard there was new armor

but it's just woodland camo on a jacket

if it was just a flat color i'd use it

but it has this ugly camo

[jovial frigate]

i wish the power sword didnt look ass

er

[vital bough]

Tbh I think if any of you guys spent money after release for aquila's just to get armor, you got scammed.

Literally all the penance gear looks better imo

[jovial frigate]

force sword

[night marten]

that said the new red veil looks pretty neat imo

[summer wind]

the thinner stuff looks nice

and the veil does look good i can agree with that

i just wish i could turn off the gold trim

or recolor it

[sturdy radish]

what do you guys think the best blessings and perks are for surge staff?

[vital bough]

I guess if you like the cosmetics enough to toss money at it, and you won't miss the money, there's no harm done and no real reason to hassle anybody about it.

I just don't like anything in the shop atm.

[cyan notch]

yea even the penance stuff arent great

[robust meteor]

haven't spent any premium currency yet lol. make something pretty for me please someday

[night marten]

@summer wind blue camo on the FS skin

[leaden pier]

ill probably look at other classes

[night marten]

(yea I paid for it because the model looks a little better lol)

[summer wind]

i use the red one because it matches the pennance armor a little

[cyan notch]

hood is cool but some huge neck lock garbage and gargantuan gloves look terrible

[leaden pier]

i want the revolver rannik uses in the lvl 30 cutscene

[vital bough]

Yeah the only thing I've maybe considered on top of that armor set is the head-crown with no hood in the aquila shop but apart from that I don't think anything is worth tossing the $ at yet.

[summer wind]

yuuuup

[night marten]

also isn't camo from what I remember. they need to stop with the camo shit

[summer wind]

yeah absolutely

[night marten]

it's not CoD

[summer wind]

it makes no sense

[kindred sphinx]

psykers are cringe tbh

[summer wind]

we are not at all a stealthy class

in lore, in gameplay, any of it

we're god damn wizards

[leaden pier]

wacky space wizards

[summer wind]

why do we have camo

[vital bough]

Give me lightsaber skin for force sword!

[robust meteor]

i dont know what i want them to make but i dont want what they've made yet sigh

[night marten]

the art team has done an AMAZING fucking job with this game

[summer wind]

it's psykin' time

[night marten]

however

what the fuck

[summer wind]

YEAH

[vital bough]

lol

[summer wind]

the imperial guard doesn't use camo

[vital bough]

Yep

[night marten]

jesus, it's really gross

[summer wind]

why do we

[night marten]

let me just pull my pinstripe fucking suit out

🤮

[cyan notch]

thatll be 140k

[night marten]

and later, I've got a clown show to attend, and have just the thing

also, my favorite colors, the only two I have in fact, are light blue, and dark blue

[echo parrot]

https://assets.reedpopcdn.com/death_stranding_walkthrough_5_383.jpg/BROK/resize/1200x1200>/format/jpg/quality/70/death_stranding_walkthrough_5_383.jpg

[night marten]

best wardrobe

[echo parrot]

Everytime I just get reminded of higgs

When people post that one

Dunno why, the pattern doesnt even match

[night marten]

should honestly get all three of those pieces and wear them together

[vital bough]

This is literally me omg

[night marten]

just be a walking trainwreck

[summer wind]

GIVE US THIS ARMOR!

or, well

they almost did

they gave us one without the coat

y'know, the cool part of the set

[vital bough]

This is literally the aquila shop one, just with a long trench coat on the jacket

[summer wind]

yeah

[vital bough]

Yeah

[summer wind]

give us this

[leaden pier]

yea a coat or cloak on the psyker would be rad

[robust meteor]

wish trauma was this instead https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxVSQzbcY3QLIYqD7kTUgynGTmTJX5X_qu

[hushed glade]

Yeah what’s a space wizard without a robe

[summer wind]

lmao

and yeah where the hell are our robes

[vital bough]

This is very close to the Malleus Monstrous penance armor:

[summer wind]

but way cooler

because it has a floppy robe piece

[echo parrot]

As a GW2 player, I hope you wind up in a Drukhari furniture factory.

[night marten]

@summer wind actually not so sure about the veil, back is super short, wish it would at least reach the chestpiece collar

[echo parrot]

Everyone hates that damn thing lol

[vital bough]

Some more colorful psycher armor ideas

[summer wind]

yup

[humble saddle]

so called psyker freethinkers when there is a new skin out:

[robust meteor]

your reference is wasted on me. i quit just before max level. some other game came out that i wanted to play. really enjoyed the game tho

[summer wind]

where are my glowy eyes

[fierce spade]

hello! can anyone help me with "going out with a bang" penance?

[echo parrot]

But.. it.. It wasnt a GW2 reference lol

[robust meteor]

assumed!

[echo parrot]

Google Drukhari furniture, fun times

[vital bough]

Would love some lighter armor that looked much more Inquisitorial like this:

[summer wind]

SAME!

[night marten]

yea... you can see it in the comsetics screen, but not actually in-game

[summer wind]

i want light armor as a psyker

[summer wind]

wtf

[night marten]

disappointing

[echo parrot]

Nah, obviously they decided that the only class allowed to have scriptures and robes is zealot

[leaden pier]

it does that to my vet sometimes

[vital bough]

Sadge

[leaden pier]

sometimes his eye is blind in the hub sometimes it isnt

[cyan notch]

i like how they gave us tattoos and scars but u cant see any of em 90% of the time

[robust meteor]

my 40k fandom extends to vt2. i dont get hardly any of the references but i get it goes deep

[echo parrot]

I can see it in game, but it depends on where you are as ambient lighting can easily overpower it for some reason.

[vital bough]

Yeah it's pretty buggy, works half the time and then doesn't the other

[night marten]

though in that second shot I'm not blind in one eye either

[echo parrot]

So, you have 0 knowledge of 40k lol.

[robust meteor]

just what i've gleemed from vt2 basically

yea

[echo parrot]

vt2 isnt 40k

[robust meteor]

40k noob

[echo parrot]

That is what i was getting at

[fresh reef]

fun psyker fact

[robust meteor]

yea idk you'll get no argument from me about that lol

[vital bough]

The only real crossover is that the Dark Gods and their general influences on people are somewhat similar.

Not much else that overlaps at all, though.

[night marten]

just 6-stack AB?

[fresh reef]

yup

[night marten]

I've been preaching about it for a couple weeks now lol

[vital bough]

Are you using lacerations? I've heard that SoulBlaze doesn't count as warp damage, so it gets the bonus from lacerations

I could only get 6 stacks to tick for 49

[night marten]

reposting gifs over and over...

[fresh reef]

ooh, that does sound spicy

might as well test while I'm at it

[cyan notch]

yea i played thousands of hours of vt2 idk anything about the lore i just play the game same with 40k idk who or wtf imperium blah sanctioned whoever tf that emperor dude terra whatever idk anyhing just blabbering to me

[grizzled iris]

@sick kindle You online?

[magic burrow]

that's heresy

[high agate]

6 Warp charges or Kinetic overload better?

[plucky juniper]

Does anyone have the new toilet bowl w/ heresy monstrum armor?

[vital bough]

Just eat ya' Corpse Starch and praise the Empruh

[cyan notch]

see i dont even understand that sentence

[night marten]

KO only really good when combined with AB and communion + purgatus imo

for maximum charge stacking

[vital bough]

Correct. Lacerations + Warp Battery is probably good all around for most builds, much more than AB and Communion

[night marten]

oterhwise 6 stacks is a safer choice

flayer could be good on gun builds

[vital bough]

I do like the idea of funneling a bunch of Warp Charges into Kinetic Overload, it can stack some wild damage on bosses

[night marten]

but most of the staff secondaries are too imprecise to make effective use of flayer

[vital bough]

But 6 stack AB is good for horde clear on every psyker

[mortal pendant]

so whats the verdict boys, warp absorption or essence harvest on the first feat

[night marten]

not sure I would take lacerations over aura ever

[cyan notch]

competing with deflection unfortunately

[long wharf]

I wouldn't take lacerations at all

[night marten]

quietitude safe/reliable, essence harvest if you spam BB with barrage often or run purgatus+AB

[grizzled iris]

And here we go.. the Deflection Force Sword

[sick kindle]

Yeah I am, what's good?

[grizzled iris]

Come Strike Team 60

[night marten]

don't think there's a compelling case for warp absorption ever over the other two actually void would be good for absorption

[sick kindle]

Why? What's going on in there? This isn't a trap is it?

[vital bough]

Kinetic Overload is on a different section than Kinetic Deflection.

Overload is 25, Deflection is 20.

[grizzled iris]

I'm just gonna show you a meme thing about the dueling sword Mk IV

[sick kindle]

Damn. That is a sick fact. I'll keep it in mind going forward.

Fine I'll hop in. Muted, because I'm talking to someone at the moment.

[fresh reef]

fuck it, we goin all in on that 10% warp charge chance

[night marten]

definitely want communion for more charges, or aura for more team utility, over lacerations

think wrack and ruin isn't really effective, 2 stacks is just too small

and you have to get the kill, so becomes worse with higher difficulties

[fresh reef]

true, however

meme build

[night marten]

fair

[fresh reef]

if you'll excuse me, I have a qp damnation game to carry

[robust meteor]

do you all have FUN using purge?

[fresh reef]

[sick kindle]

I haven't checked the mk ii in a while. What stats does it have that the mk iv doesn't? @grizzled iris

[fresh reef]

it burns things. me like when things burn

[night marten]

I have a shitton of fun with purge

listerine fire is the coolest shit in the game imo

[fresh reef]

listerine fire fucking wheeze

[vital bough]

I'd like this armor too pls.

Something like medium armor

where did that message go

[echo parrot]

Oh hell yeah, please thank you

[sick kindle]

Ooooo I see, okay okay. So it has no stop to the thrust. I snapped onto a single enemy before, didn't know you could keep going.

[night marten]

good looking military trench, with a minimalist headpiece

[sinful stream]

I'm gonna use it till they buff it

[high agate]

idk the warp stole it but i said
uhhh hes using voidstrike but shooting lightning fatshark?

[lucid mortar]

Image isn’t distorted enough that’s not a real surge staff

[pine iris]

"All ranged enemies should be tagable." Discuss

[night marten]

staff skins can be applied to different staff types

[night marten]

have to be a different hotkey

and there's already a generic enemy marker you can place

tagging specials/elites in a crowd is too important

[pine iris]

the yellow / red silhouette is there

[night marten]

with a vet and the right feats right? re: yellow silhouette

[pine iris]

I can't enemy mark individual cultguy gunners. I don't like that

[high agate]

Cant ever fucking see them when theyre 80ft away in the darkness either

[sturdy radish]

anyone recommend a youtube channel for a psycher build? trying to do surge and purge builds or any suggestions

[high agate]

Back when we though 5-6 ratling gunner spawns was bad 😢

[night marten]

121122 is fun with purgatus and a deflector FS

even on damn

[fresh reef]

shotgunners and snipers should have spawn sounds

yea or nay?

[echo parrot]

Nay

Snipers already have a tell, its the laser.

[cyan notch]

with left click yea

[onyx locust]

is it worth consecrating ?

[echo parrot]

Shotgunners also spawn with hordes not as specials.

[high agate]

Shotgunners always have the big green skull spikes and the snipers have the sound/laser.
Regular gunners are honestly the only threat in the game

[zenith peak]

is the peril hard lock still a thing?

[night marten]

if you don't have anything better, and want to use a deflector FS, this would be a decent weapon

[high agate]

If its working as intended putting ~30 gunners in a single room thats just ridiculous

[cyan notch]

whats the sniper sound

[onyx locust]

yeah i keep getting dod dod rolls with the merchant

[fresh reef]

it sucks when shotties just spawn behind you and delete 80% of your hp through toughness

[onyx locust]

dodo*

[high agate]

When they're about to shoot it'll make a sound similar to when you're about to get melee'd

[echo parrot]

Prob referring to the sound queue just before they shoot

[olive ember]

Whats up fellow psykers

[cyan notch]

oh i thought spawn sound

[echo parrot]

Its unique to snipers

[onyx locust]

thanks bro

[cyan notch]

sometimes they spawn just somewhere u dont have time to react immediately

[night marten]

yea gotta say I've seen some questionable sniper shots

most of the time it's fine, and both the laser, and pre-fire sound are more than enough to dodge safely

[cyan notch]

they should have a spawn audio cue like the rest

[night marten]

but every now and then.. seems like they open up with almost no warning, depending on where they spawn and their firing angle relative to your team (probably just skill issue )

[cyan notch]

sometimes my guy just screams sniper but idk where they are cuz no audio cue until they start shooting u

[sturdy radish]

is this a good staff? its what i usually run

[night marten]

it's fine, reroll perk to flak, carapace, or manic imo

[teal cargo]

Whaaa all the gunners are a trheat

Like getting shot at by gunners and reapers sucks!

[robust meteor]

i would keep unarmored damage

[worn canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-drinking-funny-animals-gif-13971159

[robust meteor]

bc the unarmored gunners are everywhere on the map

[worn canopy]

Hello fellow psykers

How are my cone heads doing today

[zenith peak]

Hello sibling

[olive ember]

coneheads?

[night marten]

more like urinal heads

[worn canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-eating-cone-of-shame-chauncy-memphis-gif-10174774

[teal cargo]

I wouldnt on surge since you do like almost no dmg to them anyways

[robust meteor]

i use the +25 unarmored and those gunner groups drop in 2 charges

[worn canopy]

New helmet, it’s another urinal

[pure lion]

What’s the best build for using Purg staff on Damnation difficulty?

[fresh reef]

the new veil is kinda cool

wish it came in blue/silver

[robust meteor]

first charge kills a few with stacked crit

[teal cargo]

idk how much hp those gunners have

[night marten]

could do a couple things, but FS with deflector while using 121122 is good

or 122112

[pure lion]

I just got a deflector FS

[teal cargo]

Nice

[night marten]

can always run quietitude if you're more comfortable with that, but on damn there's so much shit spawning it's easier to get charges

[robust meteor]

dis is what i'm using to do that on damnation just ignore the blessing

[teal cargo]

Also Purg doesnt generate that much peril

[sturdy radish]

anyone got a pic of a good purge staff?

[olive ember]

Similar to flamer the two most important things are burn and cloud radius, damage is a dump stat, everything else is aight

[night marten]

yea you could make a case for psykinetic's wrath, but you're still going to be quelling a shit ton due to high enemy volume, and the direct damage from purge (only thing that gets a bonus from wrath) isn't you're biggest damage dealer anyway

[tight niche]

everytime I've gone out of my way to try and get the cliff hange penance it's gotten me killed

[night marten]

I don't think damage is a dump stat, but you're right that cloud and burn matter more

[mild canopy]

best FS perks? so i know what to refine

[olive ember]

pretty sure it is tho

[teal cargo]

I think Dmg is the dump stat for purg cos similar to Flamer

[simple junco]

Your main damage is actually burn tho

[teal cargo]

Plus some people say those killed by the dmg don proc ascendent blaze so theres that too

[ivory marsh]

damage makes your dot ticks faster

[teal cargo]

Idk if thas true but 😔

[olive ember]

the lvl 10 feat always run peril reduction tbh

the extra damage means jack

[ivory marsh]

for the flamer at least

[night marten]

it is

[simple junco]

Exactly. You want hordes dying to burn instead of damage

[teal cargo]

wish there was better documentation for all this

But I do know Flamer meta is dmg dump stat

😆

[night marten]

honestly don't think purgatus has a dump stat

they're all pretty important

but that's just my take

[simple junco]

Is there a breakpoint for Purg?

Between 10 and 11 damage

[ivory marsh]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QlBkFN9RRw

[teal cargo]

How bout it like written down somewhere

So can search and all

[simple junco]

Pretty sure it will be eventually, like with V2 or D2

[teal cargo]

fair

[ivory marsh]

if the flame staff works like flamer damage means faster dot ticks

[teal cargo]

I see

How significant is the faster dot ticks?

[ivory marsh]

about this significant

--------x

[teal cargo]

like we talking 5% or 50%?

[night marten]

what does "secondary action burning intensity" mean @burnt python ?

soulblaze tick damage?

[ivory marsh]

yes

[burnt python]

tick rate

[ivory marsh]

rate

[night marten]

but I thought the Burn stat was responsible for that

oh, application rate

[burnt python]

burn = dot stack rate, dmg = dot tick rate

[teal cargo]

I guess tick every 0.41s to every 0.29s?

[night marten]

yea so damage is definitely not a dumpstat for purge. I just think they're all important

[burnt python]

as far as i can tell the tick rate is p useless tho, every staff i tested still ticked 11 times before disappearing

[ivory marsh]

its the speed at which it ticked

[teal cargo]

I guess you tick faster?

[burnt python]

i dont have any really shit dmg purges to test how low it goes

[pure lion]

I actually like the level 30 ult feat that consumes warp charges to reduce the cooldown of F, because I find myself valuing F a lot as an “oh shit get away from me” or a peril dump, and having it available more frequently is more useful to me than having more warp charges or more soulburn aoe when I’m using Purg staff anyway

[burnt python]

yeah 50% vs 80% is like a .03s tick rate difference tho, not meaningful

[teal cargo]

Yea that sounds pretty pointless

[ivory marsh]

which is why people consider it a dump stat

but noww you know the WHY

[uncut hamlet]

I really get the best guns on psyker

[ivory marsh]

you like auto pistol?

[simple junco]

Since most things up to Damnation die in one burst (armor excluded), I dunno how effective that extra tick rate will be

[uncut hamlet]

nah, but the rolls are great

and the blessing meshes well with the gun

[ivory marsh]

true

[steep bridge]

I would really love to know When you explode when on max Peril. I swear i COULD get going out with a bang, but for some reason my self destruct didnt activate even tho i was on 100% peril, casting head pops and then i just died because overrun my elites. Oh yeah i was at 100% for solid 15 seconds without going pop

[burnt python]

afaik all flak enemies die to 1 charge now too

[teal cargo]

Purg is pretty nice when all your teammates are hogging all the ammo

Like 1 full charge?

[fresh reef]

You have to cast at 100%

[simple junco]

Yeah, just keep flame on em for the full charge and they're 100% going to die

[night marten]

gets a reaper down to ~25% without crits

[teal cargo]

I see

[simple junco]

Does purg crit?

[teal cargo]

Yes

[night marten]

can 1-shot a bulwark with crits.

[zinc phoenix]

Cast a BB while at 98% or higher peril and you will pop when it complete. Takes a while tho

[simple junco]

Oh wut, I thought it didn't

nice

[devout belfry]

I assume the dot doesnt though?

[robust meteor]

how am i supposed to see this one coming

[night marten]

crit from staff just applies two stacks

[devout belfry]

Thank you strange warp daemon of emoji.

[teal cargo]

Yea so no crit dots?

[steep bridge]

Yeah no shit. I jusr whote i was at 100% peril using brain burst and i still didnt go pop

[night marten]

staff crits really ramp the total damage after soulblaze is done ticking

[teal cargo]

So if 2 stacks thats a lotta dmg right?

cos soulblaze do a lot with more stacks

[night marten]

1 or 2 crits in a full secondary charge has a big impact

[simple junco]

More or less. It's moreso you can add more stacks on top of it.

[devout belfry]

I found detonating with a stave cast was quicker.

[teal cargo]

Crit purg hype

[simple junco]

Crit purg crit purg

[teal cargo]

Does Flamer burn work in same way?

[muted wyvern]

Any suggestion on which perk I should be fishing for on this thing? Figure I'll keep the 25% vs Flak.

[night marten]

crit purg CHANCE

[teal cargo]

or is burn not soulblaze?

[vital bough]

Yeah, 1 stack does like 2 damage per second.

getting to 15 stacks can hit upwards of 160-200 a second

Definitely not a flat damage per stack

So it's not linear

But it's not really multiplicative either, or at least I don't know the match behind it to know if it is.

It's somewhat exponential with how it increases so rapidly at higher stacks

[night marten]

couple people were saying custom curve

[vital bough]

Probably the case tbh

[robust meteor]

do these guys annoy you?

[fresh reef]

Would be way easier to figure out if we had debuff indicators

[burnt python]

it's not exponential it appears to be an array of values

i.e. x stacks = y dmg

[muted wyvern]

not really, they get handled fine

[burnt python]

no equation behind it

[long wharf]

it's a data set

no equation

[ornate hamlet]

What's this about psykwr being broken in the patch?

[vital bough]

That's so fucking weird man. They probably did that to make balancing easier but it sure makes it harder for us to figure out.

[burnt python]

they have shown time and time again over the years they have no interest in us understanding their shit lol

they go out of their way to hide information

[vital bough]

Why FS

[burnt python]

they are terrified of ppl min maxing their games

even tho it will happen anyways

[abstract frigate]

Never again, man. Never again.

[fresh reef]

Reminder that in a community full of people feinding over breakpoints, a multipage shop is immeasurably complex and would cause mass confusion

[simple junco]

Honestly, I've seen people defend each staff as "the best", so it's doing a pretty good job of keeping things equal more or less.

[burnt python]

they said in some release a while back that they specifically wanted to avoid mathing out bp's to being a thing like it was in vtide

so they hid shit lol

so dumb

[steep bridge]

lucky effing bastard

[abstract frigate]

Fine ding? Fien. F- Word too big.

[vital bough]

"Sorry we thought pages in a shop would maybe make it confusing for you guys."
Do they... Think we're stupid...? What

Lmao

[night marten]

good luck on pick n mix

[burnt python]

so now you got ppl on here and in other places talking about weapons in the context of dps, which doesn't fucking matter, cus they aren't familiar iwth the series & importance of break points

[muted wyvern]

Yeah, honestly if I had a void staff that was as good as my 377 huge dick tier Surge staff, I'd probably use Void more. I also seemingly always need to be on CC duty, so...

[fresh reef]

Been thinking about turning this into a Patrick-Manray shitpost

[simple junco]

Laughs in Purgatus

[robust meteor]

they did pretty well with how they have enemies with multiple types of armors

[muted wyvern]

not a fan of Purg, plus mine is Green

[robust meteor]

along with the first target and cleave scaling

[tardy flower]

jokes on you, I got that before i got going out with a bang

[simple junco]

Eh, fair.

[burnt python]

thats all pretty much just slight modifications from vt2

[teal cargo]

Well dps prob does matter for like Purg

[burnt python]

the multiple armor types on the same enemy would be a lot more interesting if weakpoint wasn't always the head lol

[lucid mortar]

I haven’t done my cool penances yet. I think if I completed them all I’d just quit the game lol. I need a carrot

[night marten]

oh neat that's new

[simple junco]

Side note, is Endless Horde still in the game?

Haven't seen one in about a week somehow

[muted wyvern]

that just sounds fucking miserable

[ornate hamlet]

Just dodge 4head

[steep bridge]

just dont get hit

[muted wyvern]

lol

[summer prairie]

doesn't make any difference if you play surge

[muted wyvern]

yeah, I guess not

[summer prairie]

it spawns 2 instead of of 1 but it's all the same

[muted wyvern]

suppose I'll be fine lol

[burnt python]

or trauma kek

blast ur own feet all day ez win

[ornate hamlet]

Ever since I learned that it's possible to dodge hounds and mutants my life became easier and more hilarious

[simple junco]

Sidestepping with grace

[ornate hamlet]

(i have a sad life dont at me)

[steep bridge]

k

[night marten]

*I always just push hounds, their hitbox/dodge grace window is just too weird imo

[ornate hamlet]

I like your balkan folk music pfp

[burnt python]

purge staggers dog decently too but its almost a negative cus you dont actually kill the dogs and they get lost in the fray

[night marten]

I just make sure to highlight and the vets typically gun em down while staggered

[burnt python]

trauma you can det behind a dog and launch it into yourself for ez melee kill

[simple junco]

Tbh you're better off starting a BB when it runs off

If it runs off

[burnt python]

that is not really an option mid damnation horde

[ornate hamlet]

True

[simple junco]

True

[lucid mortar]

Sometimes I let poxbursters hit me because they look sad when I push them over and dodge back as they explode

[steep bridge]

go listen to Roki Vulovic - Panteri (Mauzer)

[simple junco]

Then let soulblaze kill it off lel

[teal cargo]

Hounds you just try and push

[night marten]

lately the most dangerous thing about poxbursters is my teammates shooting them when anyone is close stop doing that

[ornate hamlet]

I know it, though I feel as if I'm going to the Hague if I listen too much to that sort of thing

[burnt python]

soulflame takes way too long ot kill a dog

[vital bough]

I think the only staff that actually struggles with dogs is Void, every other staff can actually cc them easily

[burnt python]

muti too

just pull melee

[night marten]

both he and muti. yup

[open estuary]

Voistrike staggers dogs easily

[burnt python]

mk v axe is king for dog & muti killin

[night marten]

dog has a huge melee damage multiplier, should always one shot with FS special

[simple junco]

In the event that you're the only one shooting it, use FS

[teal cargo]

Idk why axe deals more dmg with ligjts to muti thab heavies thas whack

[vital bough]

Yeah but you have to hit them while running, every other staff is a point-in-the-general-direction solution that deals with it much easier.

[teal cargo]

like 50% more dmg with lights 💀

[burnt python]

heavies good for carapace and useless in every other scenario

[open estuary]

The projectile is huge and fast, easy hit

[burnt python]

the lights are OP lol

[mild surge]

so... found this

[muted wyvern]

What 2 Blessings do you want on a Void staff anyway?

I assume Transfer Peril

[burnt python]

transfer peril & either peril based crit or chained secondary charge rate

[mild surge]

what to do with it

[burnt python]

idk which is actually better rn

[vital bough]

Probably Quell, whatever you want on the other.

I've been liking Warp Nexus recently since it's applied to your melee as well.

[simple junco]

Yup, just tested it. A dog survives a full purg blast if nothing else shoots it.

[burnt python]

warp nexus is very good

[night marten]

unless you crit with secondary

possible to 1 shot

same with bulwark

[simple junco]

Oh true, managed to get zero crits there

[magic burrow]

yeah, I like running voidstrike staff and dogs aren't really an issue, unless they're in the middle of a horde and poxwalkers are taking the hits

[vital bough]

You don't want to be shooting dogs anyways if you can help it, best to shoot for CC and then melee.
You also can't CC dogs with RMB on purg staff, only LMB.

[burnt python]

void pens pox walkers always

well, with charge

[night marten]

you can stagger dogs with secondary purge

[burnt python]

dogs & mutis have melee dmg multis for a reason

mutis in particular are a melee dps check

[night marten]

and highlight them while firing. team should gun them down quick

[simple junco]

Vets are lifesavers in that regard

[vital bough]

I just seem to get jumped through the RMB anyways a bunch

[open estuary]

meleeing dogs is reliant on the game not ghostregging all your melees

[burnt python]

yeah it takes a min to build enough stagger, not super reliable

[simple junco]

You can also stagger dogs with primary, just like the flamer

[night marten]

think the damage has to tick a few times

[teal cargo]

How long is purg range?

[vital bough]

Yeah so I'd rather just LMB when a dogs running at me for the instant CC, swap to melee and 2 shot it instead

[teal cargo]

Does feel shorter than Flamer

[night marten]

if I'm dealing with a horde using purge secondary, and a dog tries to run through, he's getting staggered for sure. Just gotta make sure I highlight and he merc'd by the team

[simple junco]

About 15m

[burnt python]

maxes around 20m iirc, maybe 18?

[teal cargo]

I see

yea that do be shorter

[burnt python]

purge is qol over flamer, flamer is outright better tho

[teal cargo]

Nah Purg has no ammo

[simple junco]

For infinite ammo and a synergizing build, I think purg wins

[night marten]

yea, though having both on a team is so comfortable

[teal cargo]

and when people taking all your ammo liges rough

[night marten]

good damage for literally any situation

[vital bough]

That's what he means by QoL

[burnt python]

idk i never really have ammo issues

[teal cargo]

I see isee

I usually run out

[simple junco]

Not to mention purg has an instant "reload" in a pinch

[teal cargo]

and I gotta run ahead to take ammo before the Ogryns do

[vestal finch]

Psyker is a pretty convenient class to play if you ignore all the bugs

[burnt python]

honestly i like feeding ammo to ogryns, rumbler strong af

[open estuary]

Flamer zealots love jacking literally 100% of the ammo pickups from the vet actually killing shit

[vestal finch]

Infinite blocking, no looking for ammo

[burnt python]

if you need a lot of ammo pickups on vet u doing something wrong lol

[teal cargo]

at least usually zealots in front of vets

so can takr all the ammo

But Ogryns compete

[pure iris]

Should i buy it on psyker? what do you think

[vestal finch]

You're supposed to shoot a lot

[open estuary]

Literally doesnt matter how they are managing their ammo, Vet gets ammo prio always

[vestal finch]

Not worth

[burnt python]

their best weps have insane ammo efficiency & refund on elite kills

[simple junco]

Until they get nerfed

[burnt python]

mg xii is surely gonna get tweaked

its stupidly efficient

[teal cargo]

Usually i find Vets are pretty efficient with ammo

[burnt python]

breakpoint monster as well

[teal cargo]

So i don have to fight with them a lot

Ogryns and other Flamer Zealots though 👀

[open estuary]

MG IV and 1a are just massive chodes and the less said about the accatran and lucius the better

[graceful sail]

was kinda hoping it would be a surge staff...

[burnt python]

mg iv is... alright, but id prefer not to get carpal tunnel

[simple junco]

Tbh if you're building around it, trauma isn't half bad

[burnt python]

mg 1a has no place

[graceful sail]

what sort of build works with trauma?

[burnt python]

you use trauma like you'd use vet nades or a rumbler

[plucky wasp]

Andone get the good drip?

[burnt python]

horde control / prio target knockdown

[simple junco]

Stack peril resistance and use Kinetic Barrage and you're pretty good for target knockdown

[burnt python]

theres pics of it on char if you scroll up an hour or two

[burnt python]

when the squad of 2 bulwarks & 2 crushers rolls in on damnation, trauma feels real nice

[lucid mortar]

I did, it’s neat looking but doesn’t really fit any of the chests we have except maybe default reds

[burnt python]

the rending trait on trauma is also very good

[simple junco]

Yuuup. I'm on team Purg, but Trauma definitely has its uses

[burnt python]

i am so fucking disappointed trauma dmg was a UI bug not gameplay lmao

i was so looking forward to it being legit strong

[teal cargo]

Feels bad

[simple junco]

I think of it as strong in the same way Surge is, except way more focused

[high agate]

Sorry youll be relegated to being veteran-lite forever

[burnt python]

trauma is like alternate void, gives up horde killing power for big boy cc

but still does both decently

its a nice hybrid spot

[simple junco]

You'll prolly either have a purg or a zealot on your team anyway, so it's not unbearable

[vestal finch]

You really need a godroll for trauma to be good

[graceful sail]

the range felt naf when i used it last though

[teal cargo]

Surge being super blinding to play now

[raven scarab]

started with a green staff, think this is an okay staff now

[burnt python]

i dont understand the trauma range complaints, it fe els fine to me if a lil awkward to aim at distance

also if you are on elevated ground trauma range goes waaaay up

take the high ground!

[teal cargo]

Not bad!

[open estuary]

probably people not wanting to be at the mercy of jank

[robust meteor]

theres an elevator where you can hit the ground from like 8 stories up

[burnt python]

i played a lot of conflag in vt2 so trauma feels very natural lol

[teal cargo]

i see

[open estuary]

ew ratgame

[teal cargo]

Conflag had a DoT thoigh

[burnt python]

ya trauma is budget conflag

[teal cargo]

which was the main reason I ised it

[burnt python]

same way void is budget fireball

[teal cargo]

😔

[burnt python]

#1 conflag use was perma stunning chaos patrols

same sort of use works here

[trim garnet]

WHERE IS MY CORUSCATION STAFF IN DARKTIDE

[teal cargo]

No Corruscating staff feels bad

[sinful stream]

Fireball is budget voidstrike

[vestal finch]

In the grimdark future of the 41st millenium, you don't have a very big budget for weapons

[burnt python]

naw fireball was larger, similar dmg, with a dot

[teal cargo]

we cannon fodder

[burnt python]

and waaaay better boss dmg

[teal cargo]

wjile VT2 we kinda important

[burnt python]

but friendly fire was a thing so theres that

[trim garnet]

hehe get it friendly fire

[sinful stream]

It didn't fire in a straight line and make the most delightful explosion sound on multiple headshot cleaves

It felt very unimpactful

[burnt python]

straight line is meh it was a complete non-issue if you aimed it right

i agree on sound tho

void sounds are goated

[sinful stream]

Voidstrike is one of the greatest feeling mage weapons I've ever used in a video game

[burnt python]

when it crits into a horde and my ears explode, i am happy

i prefer void to other staves by a lot jsut for fun

and it happens to be the most effective imo

[teal cargo]

Really?

[burnt python]

i'd rather have void on damn than surge every day of the week

[vital bough]

I just need a decent Void and Trauma staff to really try them out to their fullest. Void is fun with the quell blessing for sure, though.

[open estuary]

void is the best staff imo

[lucid mortar]

Void is nice if you have range

[simple junco]

Void is situational, just like the Purg staff is

[teal cargo]

Everyone thinks diff staff is best 😆

[sick kindle]

Range isn't the issue, it's the sheer peril generation that is abysmally ludicrous.

[trim garnet]

so true

[simple junco]

It's honestly refreshing tbh

[burnt python]

the peril gen is only terrible on full charges

[vestal finch]

Hey siblings, I haven't actually had the change to test out everything in the new patch and I won't be able to for a bit

[open estuary]

purgatus staff mafia

[teal cargo]

Peril to dmg is pretty bad

[burnt python]

spam partial charges and you'll have a diff experience

[vestal finch]

What is the new condition?

[trim garnet]

lots of houndds

[white badger]

I'd like to hear more about that. It would be good if Surge weren't considered the only way at high difficulties

[lucid mortar]

High Intensity + 1 dog

[teal cargo]

Well partial charges got poor dmg

[vestal finch]

That can't really be it?

What's it called?

[trim garnet]

[vestal finch]

"Zoo"?

[trim garnet]

hunting grounds

[open estuary]

its just a pair of hounds every now and then

[burnt python]

I only really play pugs for starters, in a coordinated squad void prob isnt the choice -I have found that when shit is truly hitting the fan and you gotta step up and clutch, surge does nothing for yuou - just delays the inevitable

whereas void can take meaningful chunks of enemies down, & cc, with quick charges that are easy to get off

[sinful stream]

I use void in heresy all the time. I perform better with it than my surge staff but personally I really enjoy having another psyker using surge

[vestal finch]

I use Purgatus exclusively.

[trim garnet]

disagree, surge has saved my ass in clutches quite a few times, ymmv with all the staves though

[white badger]

I only play PUGs, too. And you're the guy who said to try the MK V Axe, which I now love, heh

[vestal finch]

I will soon use nothing as I won't be playing psyker.

[simple junco]

But kindred

[teal cargo]

Time to join the vets

[open estuary]

surge is the best for taking down squads of flak armor enemies with minimal effort

[burnt python]

preference for sure, i don't think surge is bad by any means i just think void is better most of the time

[teal cargo]

💀

[vestal finch]

I might become a fanatic

[mild tartan]

Yes, with multiple psykers definitely feels best for everyone to have different staffs to fill out the niches

[burnt python]

I also like running well-rounded kits that can handle anything and surge falls off hard when the squad of dreg gunners arrives

[teal cargo]

😔

[simple junco]

You just described the Purgatus staff tbh

[white badger]

Are people using Void staff effectively without the animatio-cancellng macro? (Logitech software can't do delays that short)

[vestal finch]

It was the first character I made

[trim garnet]

big true

[vestal finch]

then I deleted it before level 5 and made a psyker

[trim garnet]

though with the uh

[teal cargo]

Flamer is fun

[burnt python]

i dont do the anim cancel cus its clearly getting fixed and i dont want to become reliant on it

[trim garnet]

orbeez being massive fucking suppression for some reason

[sinful stream]

Seeing how I have no idea what the hell u are talking about, yes

[trim garnet]

i dont have much issue with gunners

[teal cargo]

But man Zealots a huge jerk

[open estuary]

Never gonna use it because no ranged LMB

[teal cargo]

Always shitting on people

[olive ember]

I just don’t see myself running hunting grounds tbh… just seems so boring

[burnt python]

protip for void: back dodge into slide clears enough space for about a 75% charge almost always

[mild tartan]

Yeah, it feels awful to use because of this personally

[simple junco]

I think gunners give everyone trouble besides Void staff users

[burnt python]

assuming you arent against a wall

[sinful stream]

Going straight to zealot, swapping teams smh

[olive ember]

It’s just a normal mission but make the most cancer enemy in the game spawn a bunch more

[vestal finch]

I hear the Judge is less so

[teal cargo]

Yea Judge is like a Larper

[burnt python]

melee push > back dodge > slide > charge void

[vital bough]

Pretty sure the animation cancel makes you blow up right now anyways. They probably tried fixing it, which resulted in the current bug we have for peril quelling. Just a personal hypothesis though.

[split oxide]

Apart from deflector, name ONE THING that the forcesword is better than the chainsword?

[vestal finch]

lol

[sinful stream]

True. I made a judge I like them

[simple junco]

You could have two mutants and two trappers spawn with a horde

[white badger]

Gunners the vet's job. If you have one. And they know to do that.

[teal cargo]

so everyone makes fun of you 😆

[trim garnet]

yeah but you also get to scream DIE HERETIC as you saw a motherfucker in half with a huge ass chainsword

[mild tartan]

How is the chainsword? I just got a 420 blue I want to upgrade, idk if its worth moving on from my axe though

[night marten]

is the FS special higher damage than chainsword special? particularly against carapace/flak?

[simple junco]

Alt does more damage than BB with FS

[teal cargo]

But I picked Agitator and man do they are pretty annoying

[vestal finch]

I've only heard psykers make fun of the guy trying to speak antiquated english

[olive ember]

3 hounds inside a horde worse than trappers and mutants in a horde honestly

[burnt python]

depends on armor type iirc

[trim garnet]

i also finally got an uncanny strike force sword to test with, it does infact shred people

[teal cargo]

Thats Judge

[vestal finch]

No

[white badger]

Chainsword is not good. I have a really nice one, 380 base. It's just outshined by the MK V Axe and Force Sword, and probably dagger.

[burnt python]

also forcesword has the best push in the game, #1 reason to use besides deflector imo

[vestal finch]

Judge is the rough voice guy

[olive ember]

Mutants you are invuln while they are grabbing you and trappers you can kinda dodge, hounds are just aids

[mild tartan]

Void lmb staggers dogs and knocks them off instantly too useful for this

[echo parrot]

I plan on making a new Zealot with fanatic and make them as short as possible.

[simple junco]

I've been hunting for a good FS for ages. Totally not jealous.

[echo parrot]

Shortstack rage

[teal cargo]

Fanatic is the Skulls for Golden Throne person

[mild tartan]

That's a shame but I figured as much

[trim garnet]

its shit stats i just needed to test the blessing, it does infact get full stacks from one weakspot warp attack

[echo parrot]

Ye

[teal cargo]

The Khorne worshiper 👀

[sinful stream]

Regular chainsword is my Fave weapon on my veteran. Feels like a good all-rounder type weapon.
Got mobility, some good cleave, some good armor pen. The charge attack is simply fun

[vestal finch]

Blood for the Carrion Lord, for sure

[teal cargo]

Yea kinda sounds like a viking

[trim garnet]

somebody doesnt have a power sword yet

[supple skiff]

power sword still busted

[trim garnet]

yessir

[burnt python]

mk v axe is kinda sick on vet too

[supple skiff]

was using one on my vet today

[split oxide]

The swing for the ForceSword is diagonal while the Devil'sClaw is horizontal.
I miss that horiztonal swing.

[white badger]

No kidding. Power Sword is the best weapon of any type in DT. It's ludicrous.

[sinful stream]

Nah I just don't like constantly activating the PS. I also kinda boycotted it because kf how broken it was

[simple junco]

Power sword legitimately made me want to play Vet

[echo parrot]

I personally am not a fan of any of the personalities because the class fantasy of being a fanatical zealot does not appeal to me, but its the melee focused class and I want to try so so I figured I would just pick the most unhinged one.

[trim garnet]

luv me powa sord
luv me plasma gun

simple as

[vital bough]

https://tenor.com/view/astartes-40k-pistol-energy-weapon-smoke-screen-gif-22246966

[trim garnet]

legit considering going full time vet with the new steel legion cosmetic set its SO fucking cool

[burnt python]

you would prob enjoy ogryn too tbh, the cleavers are surprisingly mobile

[sinful stream]

Respect. My plasma gun build has a devils claw super cleave build sword

[simple junco]

tbh I enjoy playing with plasma gun vets on higher difficulties

[vestal finch]

I have not heard many agitators honestly

[echo parrot]

Eh, ogryn is more tank and spank than charge at them with the fevor of death and decapitate

[teal cargo]

Honestly Fanatic prob the nicest one

[simple junco]

I either don't have to worry about BB or the targets are oneshot by the time I get there

[vestal finch]

mostly fanatics and judges

[teal cargo]

Agitators the worst person of the voices

[trim garnet]

they tend to understand the gun is the problem begone tool and then go back to power swording hordes instead of wasting ammo on everything that breathes

[sinful stream]

The 25% move and attack speed buff after charging says different

[teal cargo]

always saying racist shit

[burnt python]

idk ogryn charge > zealot charge

[vestal finch]

I had a friend who made an agitator zealot

[open estuary]

loner psyker or cutthroat vet is by far the worst voice