psyker-class

[severe folio]

oh

so did they fix anything ?

[winged escarp]

Nope

[severe folio]

what about trauma staff

[fresh reef]

still booty

[winged escarp]

No fixes/improvements for psyker at all.
Just a quelling bug and an unusable surge staff

[fresh reef]

I think

[fading shoal]

https://i.imgur.com/cOT2Zp0.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/w4nVYVf.jpg

Melk thinks I am a Vet once again

[severe folio]

i see

[winged escarp]

And new vfx for force sword, although the patch notes would have you believe it would be more than that

[severe folio]

well rip psyker mains

im going to become a zealot main

[tight saddle]

same

[severe folio]

im quite surprise though

[tight saddle]

200 hours of Psyker going in the trash

[severe folio]

that theres actually nothing positive lol

i thought it was just an exaggerated meme

[tight saddle]

Well for me it wasn't its performance that was ever an issue or significant enough to hamper me, it's the removal of fun stuff that is making me want to stop playing it.

[severe folio]

did they fix the quell cancel on some staff ?

[tulip drum]

what's the dodge distance when you inspect the weapon?

[tulip drum]

like what?

[tight saddle]

to add insult to injury both melk and the shop only have guns atm

[tulip drum]

the rapier and dagger slide + no more surge staff animation cancel?

[tight saddle]

or 100% peril cancels apparently

[shadow quail]

No more animation cancel but now we have self induced eye cancer

[long wharf]

yep, no more abusing animation cancelling

[tight saddle]

and now there's a delay before BBing again after 100% peril

[tulip drum]

i'm new to psyker...what is 100% peril cancel?

[long wharf]

apparently this is a bug

[tulip drum]

this is a fatshark bug so no biggie

[sick kindle]

Source?

[long wharf]

FatDevs have confirmed that it is unintended behavior

the forums

[tulip drum]

^

[sick kindle]

May I see the link, please? Not saying that to demand credibility. I am curious.

[long wharf]

I don't have it on tap

someone else linked it here earlier

[burnt python]

its pinned

[tulip drum]

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/known-issue-cant-quell-or-swap-weapons-after-reaching-100-peril-twice/69172

[sick kindle]

Oh thank god. Once that gets fixed and the obnoxious surge staff blur visual repealed I'm willing to hop back in.

[tight saddle]

stuff like this, with other staffs as well

[ornate hamlet]

someone wanna do private penances ?

[tulip drum]

ehhh i don't care about that then that's totally not intended behavior lol

[sick kindle]

The only cheeses I've done are ones capable of performing with human input and consistency. I refuse to use macros to do some dumb shit.

[harsh ingot]

What does everyone run with curios on psyker? Atm I’ve got a +wound and 2x toughness

[sick kindle]

Block efficiency and toughness with some Ability cooldown sprinkled in

[tight saddle]

I was doing those manually, the purge was super easy to time with comfortable keybinds. I ended up macroing them later to give my hands a rest, but I never use Pug since I didn't like it even if it oculd do that.

[cyan notch]

ive seen people say running lower difficulties is easier for plasteel but i ran one sedition checked every single spot and only got 40 plasteel meanwhile damnation gave 265

[tight saddle]

you could just use your side mouse buttons and press them together without having to macro lol

[lone fractal]

Didn't the force sword got a buff?

[tight saddle]

visual only

[lone fractal]

oh ffs

[sick kindle]

No, it's block got some sparkles.

We are now Sailor Moon soldiers of the Imperium

[cyan notch]

well the purg cancel is really easy u just press r any time before your charge ends lol

[tight saddle]

the clip had the lmb quel cancel in there as well I think that's what they meant

[lone fractal]

saw this and thought it was a buff of sorts, but nope. BS

[icy harbor]

is the surge staff "fix" very noticeable? Did the staff get better?

[tight saddle]

it got worse

[icy harbor]

but why

[wheat wren]

Did psyker get fucked?

[night marten]

that doesn't work anymore

[lone fractal]

Surge Staff is making my eyes hurt.

[icy harbor]

surge is bad now?

[tight saddle]

yeah we were talking about how it was before for someone that asked

[night marten]

ah I see

[icy harbor]

I need to know, is the surge bad now?

[cyan notch]

wonder how fast the fix will be

[tight saddle]

it was still good even without the cancels

[icy harbor]

wait, you can not cancel anymore?

[lone fractal]

I see the bug people are cmoplaining about with the BB. Changing to the staff to quell still works everytim

[prisma minnow]

I just ran my first heresy mission and I honestly barely noticed the effects of todays patch

[graceful steppe]

They're aware of that at least
https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/zmsvfw/new_surge_staff_visuals_are_overwhelming/j0cx29y/
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/surge-staff-new-visual-is-seizure-inducing/69023/18

[prisma minnow]

the blur was sort of noticeable but not debilitating but i can see how some would be sensitive to it

[tight saddle]

you can still do the lmb quell cancel on all staffs though lol

[long wharf]

yeah, but you aren't gaming anything

[delicate stratus]

Any idea how good All or Nothing is for a melee weapon?

[long wharf]

you still build up the proper amount of quell per lmb

[tight saddle]

I know that's why it's funny to me

[long wharf]

terrible

[sick kindle]

Hedge is based. I'm not on the forums often but as a community manager he's pretty goated.

[tight saddle]

purg can still hard CC with purg though

[delicate stratus]

Figures. Wasn't sure how well Power scaled on a weapon.

[tight saddle]

doing the lmb cancel

[long wharf]

your opinion is definitely in the minority

[prisma minnow]

Nice try Hedge

[delicate stratus]

Cause I feel like I have the sickest tact axe ever

Aside from the one blessing

[tight saddle]

Hedge has always been a piece of shit wdym, he can do whatever he wants since he's immune to being fired because of the power of friendship so he acts like a baby

[prisma minnow]

I stand by my opinion that Psyker definitely needs some re-work as a class but damned if I didn't feel hella valuable in heresy as is

[sick kindle]

I feel like I'm legally obligated to say I'm not Hedge or an employee of the Swedish Shark. Sad to say, I'm just someone who likes 'Tide games a little too much.

[wanton cove]

Thats understandable tbh

[lament glen]

Rule 1, time out. Just cuz he's a CM doesnt give you free reign to shit on him.

[random wolf]

Lmao. Geezus fuck. People think they can say whatever the fuck they want just because its the internet.

[icy harbor]

Who is Hedge

[random wolf]

Community Manager.

[icy harbor]

ok

[sick kindle]

One of a few, yes. As I said, I haven't been on the forums much but he's always been fairly quick on the trigger to bridge issues between the dev team and the community.

[delicate stratus]

Thankless job, really. Gotta have a pretty good mental to deal with that type of work.

[sick kindle]

Right? Thank the guy and people get grumpy. 😂

[icy harbor]

oh yeah, on War Thunder I regularly interact with one of the Community and Forum managers and their life is pretty terrible. They are always getting the worst from all sides

[delicate stratus]

🤷 He's just doing his job as far as I can see lol.

[runic hornet]

hedge is decisively snarky

Some people find that ilarious

it makes other people furious

[delicate stratus]

Have you seen online communities?

[prime herald]

Worth upgrading?

[runic hornet]

I'm in the former camp tbh

[wanton cove]

I think working for most games is like this xD just like this on another large game i play

Enviroment of the business unfortunately :/

[delicate stratus]

Yeah it's kinda sad. I hope for communities that strive to meme as hard as possible.

[runic hornet]

In my experience the community manager is rarely going to actually get anything truly useful done and is ultimately just a figurehead

[delicate stratus]

Like the DRG community is based af.

[shadow quail]

Shelving my psyker till that surge animation is fixed, got a headache after few matches

[runic hornet]

so, he might as well meme it up and rile the mob

[delicate stratus]

Try basketballing. It works just as well (if not better).

[tired cosmos]

How should I lvl my psyker. Serious replies only I keep getting meme responses. 1. Curios- focus on wounds, Toughness, stamina, other? Then perks, like Toughness regen? When can I get xp regen?

Fastest way for my first lvl 29 vet and me 16 psyker to lvl to 30? I was told lvl 2 assassination. Should we jusrlt run as fast as possible to get to end kill boss and end mission? Or is there better way?

Thanks

[runic hornet]

Trauma gang rise up

[runic hornet]

3 toughness curios if you think you're a chad and you definitely never make mistakes against specials, ever

2 toughness + 1 wound if you are a human being

2+ wounds gives up a lot of important toughness, I don't recommend it

[placid pike]

my block is too efficient i cant do cliffhanger properly lol

[runic hornet]

Rushing is much worse now that slideteching is nerfed, the assassination maps are decently fast, the desert maps are mostly slow.

[tired cosmos]

@runic hornet okay I'm not great so look for Toughness ones. Which perks should I look for on curios

[runic hornet]

However, I don't recommend rushing unless you're desperate.

I'd legit just play the game on malice->heresy even pre-30.

[dense cloud]

gmae jsut crashed when usin quep surge richg spam 😮

[shadow quail]

The new animation has ruined his mind

[runic hornet]

I'm hedging my bets and I say +dockets in every slot but that's a meme pick

[placid pike]

Modding for Toughness is better than health overall?

[jaunty atlas]

Void staff/antax low incursion malice. You will need something like 40 missions. Get xp on your curios, 1 wound and toughness

[runic hornet]

in heresy+ any bad facecheck with a rifle squad will punch through base 100 toughness and shred some HP

padding your toughness with 2 curios assists definitely will save you more HP than +HP curios in the majority of games

[ebon jolt]

I think you could go either way. I think we can all agree extra stamina is suboptimal though.

[jaunty atlas]

Well in a perfect world that's all i would take

[runic hornet]

+HP helps you clutch a bad situation exactly once

[jaunty atlas]

But..

[cyan notch]

yea ive tried both toughness and health havent decided which i liked

[runic hornet]

when you're fresh out of a medicae station

[sick kindle]

I feel like HP curious should give way, way more than toughness. Because they don't offer equivalent value. Toughness regens all the time, health doesn't. Only with pacs/medicae stations

Thus the reasoning to spec into toughness over health at present

[supple skiff]

I like stacking toughness with quietude, lets you cower and cry in a corner, make some peril and vent when the gun lines get too spooky

[runic hornet]

well, the thing is toughness instapops to 0 in certain situations

so you could have +500% toughness and if you get caught by a flamer/bomber you'd get literally 0 value from it

[shadow quail]

quite easy to get it back though

[placid pike]

Yeah got lucky from a Mystery Acquisition. gonna reroll curio in the future.

[storm stone]

it was put on staff to circumvent everyone that turns off motion blur soon as they log in games lol

[jaunty atlas]

Well psyker base toughness is so low you risk chip damage at every encounter. To me that's not a question, toughness is mandatory

[runic hornet]

I wouldn't call it "low"

It's "average"

3 of 4 classes have 100 toughness, vet is just goated

[jaunty atlas]

Ogryn can regenerate ungodly amount of it

Zealot same

Not psyker

[prime herald]

Is this a good base for a Surge staff to upgrade? Assuming they'll be usable again once they turn down the epilepsy visuals

[runic hornet]

I actually find it harder to get toughness when it matters on zealot compared to psyker

That situation being "enemy rifles are shooting at us"

[storm stone]

remember when damage didn't go through toughness and bleed crit zealot tanks existed? the emprah remembers

[shadow quail]

It's now an epilepsy staff

[pine iris]

I can't deny it, the surge staff is more fun to play post-patch

[jaunty atlas]

A zealot should not have to go under fire imo

[icy harbor]

no

[clear heath]

Yeah i agree
and imo they need it more

[supple skiff]

this is why I run void, I don't want to rely on vets to deal with gun lines

[runic hornet]

??? enemy riflemen shoot everyone

[dense cloud]

omfg binding reload ro left click is awsome on psycher 😄

[prime herald]

What stats/perks should I be ideally looking for on surge staves

[dense cloud]

keepit pressed and it wil quel 😄

[tired cosmos]

**so what's the quickest way to level with a friend who's lvl 30? I'm 16. Just running quick assassination runs lvl 2 or 3?

[storm stone]

a zealot should be charging face first into packs of gunners yelling "FOR THE GOLDEN THRONE"

[runic hornet]

zealot isn't somehow immune to this, in fact most people say he needs to get in there which means he's actively in danager even more lol

[icy harbor]

Warp Resistance, Quell speed.

you want to push out as much cc as possible

[jaunty atlas]

Same. This is the psyker job imho, vets breach the firing line, void clears it

[runic hornet]

also rifle squads disperse because idiots shoot them early

[jaunty atlas]

Horde flamer is a zealot job

[runic hornet]

now they're spread out across like 30 meterse of space

[long kraken]

cant complain by guy, you only need 7

[tired cosmos]

Is there a calculator to tell how many runs needed flto go from say lvl 18-30 if u do 2 bar difficulty?

[runic hornet]

and even if you're meleeing some of them, the others are shooting you, and they're so spread out that your "enemies close" toughness regen doesn't tick to 3 and ARGH

[storm stone]

that's why i like zap staff when with a good zealot...i hold em still, they bisect em

[supple skiff]

see I find surge doesn't have the range to deal with them reliably

[runic hornet]

surge staff is great if you can make contact in sync

but honestly at that point it barely matters

[supple skiff]

worst case I can machine gun rmb to supress them while others close the distance

[still mountain]

Many

[runic hornet]

being able to run into an unactivated rifle squad is a thousand times easier than trying to clean it up after it activates

[jaunty atlas]

Not that i know of. But 2 bars is 800 more xp than one. And both are f boring. I would suggest to train yourself in malice

[runic hornet]

like at that point you can just run in together with the zealot

it's just a poxwalker squad at that point

[supple skiff]

I'll be a sad psker when they come around to nerfing voiding peril generation

[runic hornet]

join the trauma staff cult

(don't, we don't have any range)

[storm stone]

yea, sadly on my zealot where people spread out the mobs to cover i just hide and take pop shots with my bolter...which on a side note is a fantastic fkn bolter lol

[cyan notch]

you can quell on headshot its not gonna be bad

[jovial quail]

Just to confirm, Toughness regen only helps with the initial recovering time and not actually speed up recovery time while its recharging correct?

[storm stone]

not sure, i assumed it reduced the time between the regen ticks

[jaunty atlas]

I don't understand trauma. Low output low damage, low range and quite useless control. It's good if you have vets only with you

[supple skiff]

haven't been blessed with a weakpoint quelling staff yet with decent stats

have my deflector though so I won't complain

[storm stone]

like for example if it's 4s between ticks it would be 2s with 50% regen speed...but i could be wrong

[shadow quail]

better off having another vet

[supple skiff]

trauma users thought they were getting a buff to their damage cause the damage table was double what they were doing. Turns out devs screwed up tho table and not the actual staff damage lol

the stockholm syndrome is real

[jaunty atlas]

I would not go that far. 10%dmg passive and cerebral lesions are no joke

You always want a psyker in your party

[long wharf]

who the hell uses cerebral lacerations?

[supple skiff]

we might underperform, but our ability to deal with gunners and snipers is worth a slot

[teal cargo]

relaly?

Is that actually what they said 😆

[supple skiff]

vet can't do shit if he's surpressed 9 ways for sunday, at least we can pop out of cover for a quick bb and pop back in, about its only utility at this point

[teal cargo]

There are tons of trauma enjoyers

[long wharf]

tons dozens

[teal cargo]

Good for bosses I guess 15% dmg is a lot 🤔

[jaunty moth]

gunners resist is only for the machine gunners not shotgunners right?

[teal cargo]

yea

only gunners, not shooters or shotgunners

or Reapers

[jaunty atlas]

I do not contest that, i ask why. Ultimately I would love to enjoy any weapon

[teal cargo]

WEll cos it builds a lotta peril

so you get some extra dmg and more toughness

[jaunty atlas]

You pop anything once and vets will finish them

[supple skiff]

yeah damage tables were overstated lmao

[jaunty atlas]

At higher diff it's awesome

[teal cargo]

😆

[robust meteor]

fully charged trauma should 1 shot any normal sized enemy

[teal cargo]

So Trauma meant to do like no dmg? 😢

[supple skiff]

whatever its doing now, thats intended

[teal cargo]

only in the middle though right?

[drowsy fog]

why did they change intro skip from esc to hold space what

[teal cargo]

This is worst deal in the history of deals, was a display bug

[jaunty atlas]

Let's speak in ogryn terms. Trauma is the hurty hurty, not the killy

[teal cargo]

Well Trauma besides generating a ton of peril fast

[cyan notch]

just disable it in interface options

[teal cargo]

is also good cos you cc crushers

by knocking em over

[supple skiff]

if its any consolation, I was super hype for fs aoe until they changed patch notes to say visual change only

I feel your pain

[jaunty atlas]

But trauma proc bb non?

[supple skiff]

apparently we can select a setting to disable the intro now though

[teal cargo]

wtf visual change only?

☠️

[teal cargo]

well same as any ohter hit with Flayer

[jaunty atlas]

Oh feck

[supple skiff]

they did that shit on purpose I can feel it in my bones

[jaunty atlas]

And it procs lesions too ?

[vital bough]

Dude me too, I was really sad about that.

I'm a FS lover

[dusky lantern]

I think dagger sliding is still faster with the nerf than running

just tried it out

[vital bough]

Side dodging is actually faster I think, could be mistaken though

I side dodge on the FS everywhere for jokes sometimes and it's actually pretty fuckin fast

[supple skiff]

ah well, at least fs still has unlimited dodge,

[vital bough]

No dodge limit either

[supple skiff]

for now anyways

[vital bough]

Yeah lol

[torpid pebble]

My god the peril stun lock feels absolutely awful

[idle shuttle]

I cant run around at 100% with surge staff anymore

[vital bough]

If they don't fix it, and say it's intentional, I will be pretty salty tbh

[idle shuttle]

reeee

[teal cargo]

Man this peril lock after twice

is super annoying

[runic hornet]

it literally didn't affect me, a based trauma staff enjoyer

[idle shuttle]

what do you mean

[supple skiff]

its confirmed as a bug thank terra

[runic hornet]

I go to 100 and then just put the staff away until I'm either @ 30 or 0

[dense cloud]

i love havin reload bound to left click 😄

[teal cargo]

after you hit 100 twice you cant manually quell peril for like 2 s

so like spamming BB

[prime herald]

Can the surge staff even hit weak points? Lol

[cyan notch]

they acknowledged its unintended and bug

[teal cargo]

see pins

[runic hornet]

yes, you throw orbeez with LMB

[teal cargo]

is bug

but super annoying!

man this Surge VFX is super bright

[prime herald]

I meant the secondary attack that you'll be using most of the time

[runic hornet]

the secondary? no lol

[vital bough]

Thank fuck, I was hoping so but after I said it might be a bug earlier, I only got a bunch of "nah dude they do this shit all the time" comments back and lost a bit of faith

[teal cargo]

very annoying

[prime herald]

Alright, figured, rerolling that shit off

[idle shuttle]

buff psyker... today

[cyan notch]

funny thing is you can get surge vfx'd from other pskyers using it lmao

[teal cargo]

wtf

[cyan notch]

so u arent completely safe even without using it

[teal cargo]

sounds like a epilepsy hazard

[runic hornet]

the game already was tbh

but now it's so bad even normal people can't stand it

[dusky lantern]

purge staff users:

[tired cosmos]

Should I buy anything from shop at lvl 18-20? What do I do with it?

[candid hawk]

Ive been turned into a purg staff user i think

[torpid pebble]

I'm just glad the beast of nurgle's pathing is so fucking stupid, managed to get it to do the left-right dance some railings and a ladder for that 90% BB damage penance with a full team

[teal cargo]

yea

[runic hornet]

trauma staff users:
All one of me

[vital bough]

staring into the fire of my purg staff

[candid hawk]

i rolled a pretty much perfect purg staff

[glass thistle]

this thing is better than the rod

[teal cargo]

whats good bout purge staff now?

[analog juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/disco-gif-8094494

[teal cargo]

oh geez

[vital bough]

I don't think anything, pretty sure there was no change to it

[cyan notch]

there was

[dense cloud]

wait the bb does it go of with gunz ? 😄

[vital bough]

Really??

[runic hornet]

all other staffs were buffed on account of not being surge

[vital bough]

😮

[glass thistle]

pskyer with gun, is better than magics 😛

[tired cosmos]

@glass thistle what Rifle is that

[cyan notch]

well the 100% peril purg spam was nerfed

idk if that was part of the peril quelling nerf

[vital bough]

What did they buff on the Purg staff? I didn't see it in the patch notes

[idle shuttle]

they didnt buff shit

[trail garnet]

Does anyone happen to know what the maximum +%RangedCritChance perk is?

[idle shuttle]

why would they buff it

[cyan notch]

i just told you

[cyan notch]

5

[candid hawk]

thats confirmed a bug not a nerf by fatshark on reddit

[trail garnet]

5% okay so 4% isnt bad

[regal cedar]

whats up with the light show on surge staff? i had to use my sword for half a match to avoid puking on my keyboard

[teal cargo]

looks like they also fixed 100% peril shenanigans

[analog juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/heresy-purge-w40k-warhammer-gif-10271501

[torpid pebble]

Step 1: hold on to them for future crafting updates
Step 2: Cry as fatshark fumbles features for this game again

[cyan notch]

u talking about infinite purg at 100%?

[candid hawk]

the quell nerf

[idle shuttle]

RIP

[glass thistle]

peril quelling is so fk up, better use gun

[teal cargo]

Purgatus optimal in Damnation?

whaaa?

[idle shuttle]

rise of the gunpsykers

[tired cosmos]

@glass thistle what gun to use?

[glass thistle]

recon lasers

[teal cargo]

cant do this anymore

[glass thistle]

or heavy laser pistol

[teal needle]

Gunkers*

[dusky lantern]

In my completely unbiased opinion yeaa

[dim pier]

Sweeping the surge staff doesn't actually do anything btw

[teal cargo]

I mean im a purg enjoyer

but hype that its now meta

😎

[glass thistle]

now you cant chain rod second any more, sucks

[wild pilot]

Trauma is working as intended

[jovial quail]

Poxwalkers = infested correct? As in 28% more damage against them?

[wild pilot]

It traumatizes the user

[dense cloud]

lool 84 bulltis and no bb wtf it has 10 % to go of on atck doenstit 😄

[glass thistle]

burn dot dont take perk effect

[cyan notch]

bro wtf you are the elon musk of darktide

[glass thistle]

goo d gun

[jovial quail]

@glass thistle Oh good to know, guess i'll go for maniacs or something then lol

[warped kernel]

Do brain bursts count as ranged kills for contracts? I imagine they should but would like to confirm

[teal needle]

Pretty sure that's a no

[ebon jolt]

I know they count as headshots.

[warped kernel]

Good to know

[burnt python]

fyi those penances track team stats not individual so you don't really need to go out of your way to get em done

err contracts rather

[teal cargo]

man why does the axe do more dmg on lights to mutants than heavies?

[ruby merlin]

I have no clue lol, but I only use lights on the axe vs mutants/dogs

[teal cargo]

🤔

[ruby merlin]

I figured that one out a while ago, but since lights are easier to use anyway I'm not complaining lol.

[ruby merlin]

Axe heavies are decent for staggering maulers (plus they do more damage there).

[echo parrot]

I love purg now

[teal cargo]

purg enjoyer?

[long wharf]

on a staff? I've only seen 4%

[ebon jolt]

Yes. And groaners are the regular unarmored mobs.

[teal cargo]

so Trauma still pretty sad

but!

i guess purg good now?

since Surge feels kinda sus to use

[spiral remnant]

mista fat shark please make sire melks allow to us to "customize" the base rating of our purchased goods by paying more tokens! I don't care if i need to pay 10 thousand tokens for a solid stave, that's fine

[left basin]

wut they changed

[prisma minnow]

I ran surge in heresy and didn't notice any noticeable difference after the patch

[teal cargo]

whaaa?

you havent notice the super bright lightning?

👀

[icy harbor]

oh wow the new blurry effect on my surge actually makes me feel sick

[teal cargo]

purg too?

[icy harbor]

its so bad, I am actually glad the mission is over, feel like puking

i meant surge

damn I dumb

[teal cargo]

oh surge yea

[icy harbor]

but damn is it awful

[teal cargo]

its pretty nauseating

[long wharf]

it's really bad

[icy harbor]

its worse than vr motion sickness

[long wharf]

I'm using purge now

[icy harbor]

can't play this game like this. I'll quit till a fix is out

[ornate hamlet]

yes and we cant turn it off :<

[bleak tulip]

I just got pick and mix during the BB bug

lmao

[regal cedar]

did no one at fatshark look at it before it went live?

[storm stone]

think i'm done with investigation or whatever the auspex missions are...people run off in all different directions, hordes, trappers and dogs start popping up all over and that's pretty much the end when in small enclosed areas lol

[regal cedar]

because i refuse to believe anyone spendt any time looking at that surge effect

[bleak tulip]

I mean its annoying but it doesnt affect everyone so viscerally

like I dont really feel anything other than annoyance that I can barely see with it

[storm stone]

it's bad, but it's not unplayable...definitely something to remove or tone down though

[regal cedar]

i had to put the staff away halfway trough a mission to avoid getting sick, and i still got sick

[velvet spear]

what do we think siblings

[jaunty atlas]

i don't jknow who asked a bit earlier but i'm 21 with 23 missions done, tracked by lifeleech. pretty sure malice is the way to go if this is not your first char

[storm stone]

solid start

[strange blade]

Surge staff

pls fix

[bleak tulip]

just take this as your opportunity to try other staves or even another class

they are aware and likely going to fix it as soon as feasible

[strange blade]

I simply do not play Psyker until is fixed

Also pls fix Trauma staff AoE

[glass thistle]

gun pskyer is really a thing

[bleak tulip]

I can recommend zealot, its very fun

[glass thistle]

we should let pskyer take plasma gun and ka boom with wrap ka boom

[long wharf]

so is playing a Vet

[glass thistle]

nope

you can block bullet with pskyer

and auto BB buffs the team dps

[storm stone]

zealot's should also have access to power sword

[long wharf]

a Vet is going to out-dps a gun psyker every day of the week

[regal cedar]

these i wont be using

[cyan notch]

discard them then

[glass thistle]

you dont need to out dps anyone

[cyan notch]

[glass thistle]

its not PVP

[storm stone]

break down for ordos

[long wharf]

you brought up DPS

auto-BB isn't about "upping team damage"

[glass thistle]

you can help the team, thats enough

[long wharf]

but instead helping you keep your warp charges

you can help the team far more with a staff than a gun.

[glass thistle]

15% more damage to all teammate after auto bb

[young ridge]

is my surge staff just weak or is the electricity not supposed to oneshot the normal peeps

[glass thistle]

monster and boss die in sec

[long wharf]

surge doesn't do good damage to unarmored enemies

[glass thistle]

and open up bulwark with auto BB

[long wharf]

you can open up bulwark more consistently with surge or purge

[young ridge]

ohh tht makes sense

[glass thistle]

not after the nerf

[cyan notch]

you still can

im spamming surge as usual

[long wharf]

what the hell are you smoking?

[icy harbor]

thats a really nice one, especially the warp resistance and quell speed

[glass thistle]

and guns like laser pistol is so good with, some chaos action

[long wharf]

no amount of you enjoying using a gun on a psyker changes the fact that a Vet will do more for the team with a gun than the psyker with a gun

pysker's best contribution to the team is CC

hands down, full stop, you are simply wrong.

[glass thistle]

why comp with vet, vet cant block bullet and no large push back

[icy harbor]

you are simply better for your team if you do CC

[stark edge]

Gun psyker isnt exactly bad, its just that you can do the same thing on vet and its just sorta better

[glass thistle]

it no meaning if you comp to other class, as its just a PVE loot shooter, you never out damage a vet and out horde clear as zealot

[stark edge]

the power sword alone makes the push back largely unneeded since it just kills the horde instead of pushing it

[ruby merlin]

I mean you can just play the melee tank that also can use a gun decently.

[icy harbor]

idk man, the purge staff is pretty good for hordes

[orchid nacelle]

i find that the purgatus staff has a good middle ground between cc and damage

[ruby merlin]

Vets perma blocking daemonhosts need to actually dodge a bit more 😛

[glass thistle]

no match to a flamer

[orchid nacelle]

the m1 spam attack does good stagger

[stark edge]

and the toughness resist talent + infinite 50% ranged damage increase means that against gunners its not even close

purge staff is decent, tho i find the void staff outperforms it even with the dedicated build

[orchid nacelle]

also hello friends

i am new

[stark edge]

and zealot flamer feels like its just flat out better

[glass thistle]

just do whatever you need, rod or gun, both works, but i hate rods with the nerf of cool down

[stark edge]

wdym cool down nerf?

the 100% thing? I barely found it mattered there

[glass thistle]

the quell thing

[stark edge]

nah that only really comes up if you do BB spam

its annoying af tho

[orchid nacelle]

what is the quell rate of brain burst hands?

[glass thistle]

you cant quell after maxed

[orchid nacelle]

is it always more efficient to use a staff to quell?

[glass thistle]

for few sec

[stark edge]

you can quell after max

its if you hit 100% twice in short period

which doesnt happen usually outside BB purging to 97

[wild kelp]

join this

[orchid nacelle]

sus

[bleak tulip]

no

[stark edge]

https://tenor.com/view/no-way-dude-no-oh-bugs-bunny-bugs-gif-22941840

[wild kelp]

sorry wrong chat

[stark edge]

but ye gun psyker works, just vet does it better

if you like gun psyker, try vet, its fun 🙂

[glass thistle]

different

[stark edge]

if you like purge psyker, try flamer zealot, its also fun

[glass thistle]

i like the psk block

[stark edge]

the block is nice, but

[glass thistle]

blocking range and moving is gold

[stark edge]

vet having the toughness resist talent

means they dont need to block guns

[orchid nacelle]

i prefer the minty white disinfectant spray aesthetic of psyker's purgatus staff

it looks like it smells of lysol

[stark edge]

they just eat the shots to their 200+ toughness and give no fucks

[glass thistle]

but they cant pull up a mate with that

[stark edge]

that is true, will give you that

[jaunty atlas]

280 +1wound

[stark edge]

wut?

[orchid nacelle]

is that with god rolled talismans

[stark edge]

200 is default for vet, idk what the 280+wound thing is

[bleak tulip]

yes

[snow plover]

Guys I'm trying to figure out... can psykers block ranged dmg?

[stark edge]

yes

[snow plover]

shouldn't they be able to do that?

[stark edge]

force sword with deflector trait only tho

[orchid nacelle]

with the deflector perk for fs

[snow plover]

AHA!!

[stark edge]

Which has never spawned for me...

[runic hornet]

good luck

[stark edge]

damn you FS

[orchid nacelle]

which is weird

[runic hornet]

the devs confirmed that deflector blessing is intentionally rare in the shop

[orchid nacelle]

since you'd think it would just be able to like... do that by default

[snow plover]

I've never seen that tbh just heard it here and there

[runic hornet]

why? because fuck you

[shadow quail]

In 40k lore, the emperor was a psyker. In fatshark lore, he was a vet.

[snow plover]

thank you guys

[teal cargo]

wtf really?

[runic hornet]

lemme find it

[stark edge]

https://tenor.com/view/but-why-wtf-wth-gif-18627417

[grizzled iris]

I love how this just got removed from the patch notes without a mention and never implemented

[teal cargo]

man this surge feels kinda unplayable

gonna play some Zealot instead i guess 😔

[stark edge]

Burn them with holy fire

instead of burning your eyeballs

[shadow quail]

It's fine if you close your eyes

[orchid nacelle]

surge doesn't hit nearly enough dudes i feel

[teal cargo]

can barely see anything while casting

[grizzled iris]

They also shadow nerfed the stun

[snow plover]

Is there a serious alternative to the FS in the endgame?

[teal cargo]

what shadow nerf stun?

[orchid nacelle]

reminds me of the arc lightning psyker power in DoW

[stark edge]

nah surge is fine bar the "improved VFXs"

[snow plover]

feels like nothing really works with the talents

[teal cargo]

I use Antax Axe

[orchid nacelle]

that shit would hit entire units

[stark edge]

surge just perma stuns everything

[runic hornet]

can't find the original post but i have the text:

[teal cargo]

Axe is good

[runic hornet]

FatsharkQuickpaw
If it helps, this blessing [deflector] is a bit rare and is harder to find on blue-rarity weapons (though it CAN show up). It has a slightly better chance to show up in higher rarity weapons.

[stark edge]

tho it would be kinda nice if it killed at least 1 pox walker

[orchid nacelle]

surge staff isn't palpatine, surge staff is a tazer

[icy harbor]

agree, I can really feel the damage fix they have put in place with the update. Just the visuals give me headaches

[teal cargo]

I mean Palpatine was stunning Luke pretty good

thats surge

[icy harbor]

at least, you are stunning them

[teal cargo]

But Luke's a poxwalker

[shadow quail]

ATM it's a tazer that you use on your own face

[stark edge]

I got a solid headache after doing a round with it

[teal cargo]

atm you cant see anything while casting

[orchid nacelle]

at least it can aim down now

lol

[snow plover]

Which axe do you guys think is the alternative? 😄 there is so many

[icy harbor]

same, actually had to stop playing after one round because it got so bad

[grizzled iris]

dmg fix?

[teal cargo]

Mk5 Axe

Antax Mk5 cos its got a very safe and strong push attack

[stark edge]

when they said improved VFX I imagined maybe slightly thicker lightning or something

not flashing blue lights in my face with a blur effect

[teal cargo]

which normally youd die spamming cos no stamina

[snow plover]

thx! Imma try it out... I'm a little bored of the FS now

[teal cargo]

but you got peril block

[orchid nacelle]

emps gifted me the capital A Axe a little while ago and i've been using it

it's pretty fun

[tulip drum]

Force sword?

[stark edge]

what in the fuck is that axe

[shadow quail]

axe

[stark edge]

emperor gib plz

[icy harbor]

OH MY

[runic hornet]

no limbsplitter 20%

[orchid nacelle]

rip

[valid lake]

having come back to psyker after lvling everything else psyker feels like ass and with the quell lockup bug 😦

[runic hornet]

limbsplitter is actually sick on antax

I'm a convert

[teal cargo]

yea quell lockup sucks

[snow plover]

yea

[stark edge]

I very much so doubt its a bug tbh

[teal cargo]

Surge blinding yourself sucks

Obese Fish hates Psyker

[stark edge]

it defo felt intentional

[runic hornet]

play... trauma staff...

[teal cargo]

see pins

its a bug

[stark edge]

they really hate BB spam, so they made BB totally useless

[valid lake]

its a bug fatshark confirmed it

[bleak tulip]

[stark edge]

oh for real?

[teal cargo]

see pins

[jovial quail]

Mmmm I didnt realize crit applies more soulblaze than just a normal hit, it honestly boosted the dps up quite a bit against beefier targets like Reapers and such. Shame the other perk sucks and blessing is a low level but once we get full crafting what do you guys think about those 2 together? Not like Purg staff has alot of blessings regardless

[teal cargo]

👀

[stark edge]

thats good, cuz its a dumb change

[shadow quail]

is the surge eye aids a bug?

[stark edge]

no that was an improvement

[orchid nacelle]

they said the buffed the vfx

[teal cargo]

Crit gang!

[valid lake]

depends who you asked its a feature

[tulip drum]

You try the duelling swords? They're amazing. Personally I build for staff play. Melee is a defensive weapon for me. MkV can get nutty dodge stats. So mobile and safe

[bleak tulip]

no but its elevated to the devs and likely gonna get changed

[grizzled iris]

"Improvement" AHAHAHAHAHAHAH

[stark edge]

yea chances of it staying as is seems slim

[teal cargo]

i guess its an improvement in the sense

[jovial quail]

@teal cargo I think I was averaging like 260 dps on a reaper with my other purg staff and this one got almost up to 500dps so its a pretty huge difference if you're in higher peril

[teal cargo]

it looks more impressive

[sonic aspen]

I havent played today whats the quell lock up bug

[shadow quail]

It gave me an impressive headache

[stark edge]

they said something like wanting it to look more impactful

[snow plover]

Yeah but nothing but the FS works with the talents

[stark edge]

so they did that XD

[teal cargo]

fair enough

it do look more impactful

[valid lake]

if you hit 100 peril and quell and hit 100 again you cant quell

[orchid nacelle]

it's funny that they said 「buffed the VFX to make the weapon feel more powerful」

instead of, you know, making the weapon more powerful.

[teal cargo]

but you can barely see anythiing

[trail garnet]

Kinda wish u could test dmg on monstrosities inside the psychanium

[teal cargo]

and pulsing screen edges

[valid lake]

if you hit 100 peril and quell and hit 100 again you cant quell

[teal cargo]

don help either

[sonic aspen]

Ouch that sounds like its a bug with the lock out for you not being able to quell cancel

[shadow quail]

I mean, it did impact my eyesight

[stark edge]

yea its an awful change, cool idea but good lord its bad, and in the dark its unplayable

[valid lake]

yeah its a bug

[grizzled iris]

"Oh, who left this setting at 10%? Lets crank it up to 200% There, now people will feel stronger while using it"

[night marten]

that's a sick staff

I mean real good

[shadow quail]

who needs to see the screen anyway

[weak galleon]

Fucking finally. After 164 hours, a decent Deflector FS (used refine to get block, was Sprint anyway).
Finesse is low, but I can live with -5% attack speed.

[stark edge]

oooh deflector and block efficiency

not bad

[jovial quail]

@night marten Yea its definitely not bad, just want to get a t4 crit blessing on it and i'll be content for sure

[shadow quail]

niced

[valid lake]

its a feature so you can feel like the enemies your having a seizure when they are being tazed

[night marten]

@jovial quail you rolled BiS blessing and one BiS perk

[icy harbor]

but only 336 😦

[night marten]

with insane base stats. jesus

[celest oar]

did they nerf the amount of plasteel in lower diffs?

[jaunty atlas]

you refined before upgrading it ? oO

[stark edge]

336 but the bad stat is finesse, should be alright

[grizzled iris]

More like can you live with running around with a uselss weapon?

[celest oar]

feels like lower diffs have fk all plasteels now

[shadow quail]

Now you too can experence what it feels like to have lightning thrown in your face

[cyan notch]

yes i got 40 for searching the whole map on sedition

[teal cargo]

Rather than Palpatine, you are now Luke while getting zapped

[weak galleon]

-5% AS doesn't make it useless to me. rest of the stats are proper.

[valid lake]

also theres lots of bugged diamines you cant pick up in the maps

[night marten]

feel like malice is the sweet spot for plasteel, would happy if someone has found better

[weak galleon]

I need it specifically to run Purge staff

[grizzled iris]

I'm talking about the weapon itself, not the stats you rolled

[weak galleon]

rest of the staves I run Mk5.

[sonic aspen]

I will die by my surge staff even if it turns into the worst one

[stark edge]

What you got against the FS D:

[celest oar]

well just what we need, more grind

[dusky lantern]

why you need it to run purge

[valid lake]

the stun is nice

[grizzled iris]

What is good about it

[stark edge]

CC, very good single target damage

[teal cargo]

so you don get mowed down by shooters without being able to staff them,

[stark edge]

• can block bullets

[valid lake]

we need like plasma pistol it wood feel so good with FS

[spiral remnant]

may I ask how you got that staff? i basically never see staves past 360

[dusky lantern]

you can just knife closer from cover to cover

[teal cargo]

using knife ☠️

[weak galleon]

since I decided that Deflector Force sword with +50% Block Efficiency should do just fine when closing distance with ranged if I cba to do BB dance on Heresy+

[stark edge]

That is some severe shenanigans XD

[teal cargo]

too radical for me

[jovial quail]

@spiral remnant Mmmm iirc this one was an emp drop, the rest were mastercrafted during beta trying to figure out how the power rating worked lol

[grizzled iris]

What... the... actual... fuck... am I watching?

[celest oar]

i only ever foudn one single 380 staff

[burnt hemlock]

Garbo Charge rate, but Transfer peril lvl 4 is goodlike on that staff, it even has ranged weakspot damage. WHat do we think?

[orchid nacelle]

what daemons look like if you're a navigator

[bleak tulip]

my man's downloaded fullbright skins

[teal cargo]

also the knife feels like even more awkward moveset than the FS

[celest oar]

and this is what i rolled

[celest oar]

force sword lawnmower

[spiral remnant]

bit of a shame on the 20 perk but still a massive W

[hushed glade]

friends broken videocard lmao

[celest oar]

i raged so badly when both perks were that b.s

[stark edge]

idk, blazing spirit + low charge feels kinda bad

rest is solid though

[jovial quail]

@spiral remnant Yeah i'm still on a hunt for a better one but its definitely doing the job right now, I still can't get over how bonkers just the crit perk with the crit blessing adds to DPS though. It really gets those max soulblaze stacks absurdly fast

Like comparable to flamethrower dps

[night marten]

welp, sorry for spam

[ebon jolt]

Grab it just to recycle it when rebless comes out 😂

[valid lake]

what's everyone's preferred feat for slot 1 ?

[teal cargo]

I like Quietude

[weak galleon]

that rating is used as an easy way to tell if weapon is likely to be good or not.
In reality it's a bit more complicated, 350 Void can roll a 50 in the blast radius or damage and be kinda shit due to that. Or the other way around.
I decided that I can take the trade off.

[orchid nacelle]

enemies killed with warp attacks

[burnt hemlock]

From checking the effect off charge rate in like how much it matters it did not seem like that much

[orchid nacelle]

because i mainly use voidstrike/purgatus

[ebon jolt]

Can I have that void staff?

[bleak tulip]

quietude is more consistent overall

[night marten]

trade me a purge staff just as good and you got a deal

[stark edge]

Quietude is my go to, but if i run voidstrike or purgatus the warp attack one makes you basically unkillable during hordes

[orchid nacelle]

^

[bleak tulip]

toughness on warp kill feels good but when you most need toughness its also the hardest to get with it

[celest oar]

you can have my shitty 380

[stark edge]

Yea leaves you very open to bosses/gunners

[shadow quail]

https://tenor.com/view/eyes-eye-popping-eyes-popping-eyes-pop-gif-19360349

Just finished testing my new surge staff

[stark edge]

which is really bad on heresy+

[night marten]

if it already has two blessings, one must be warp nexus

[bleak tulip]

on heresy I use quietude because you dont need to be invincible for hordes because youre standing behind your team

[weak galleon]

also, imho, now is the time to get good item base and refine one of the stats.
I don't think they'll leave current system of infinite rerolls for long.

Because you can always go for maxed out perks, I was getting 3, 4, 5% crit chance while rerolling my FSword. as well as 15% block, but decided to wait until 20% block appears.
Also, seems like Block Efficiency is really a rare stat

[celest oar]

@night marten

[celest oar]

^

[crisp yacht]

should i reroll one of these perks?

[teal cargo]

well you can ronly roll one

[celest oar]

the two perks pissed me off considering i got this at white

[night marten]

sold

lol

[weak galleon]

true. but that one you can max out.

[teal cargo]

yea i don think its that generous

[night marten]

sorry about your two terrible perks though

[celest oar]

heres two terrible perks, you can only reroll 1

take your pick!

[teal cargo]

VT2 you could pretty easily roll exact perks you want at max range

for red weapons

now getting red weapons was grind

[valid lake]

you could i woundlt waste stuff on it surge staff aint really doing damg its just stunlocking

[weak galleon]

so, question - in theory, we'll be able to get blessing out of one item and put it into another? or how will that work.

in future.

[teal cargo]

who knows

[jovial quail]

tbf surge does a crap ton of damage to armored units, is it against carapace or flak or both though?

[crisp yacht]

mmk

[teal cargo]

coming in 2 years anyways

[cyan notch]

imagine getting red weapons from damnation what a crazy thought

[weak galleon]

got a much better Voidstrike waiting around.

[jovial quail]

Might be worth grabbing a 25% damage to flak instead of elite

not sure if it'd meet any breakpoints though

[valid lake]

as far as we know yes thaTS HOW IT WILL WORK

[dusky lantern]

can you roll block efficiency in curios?

[acoustic spade]

yes

[cyan notch]

yes 12% max

[dusky lantern]

cool

[weak galleon]

Highest available difficulty should provide no additional rewards. That's the thing Vermintide 2 got damn right.
Cata playerbase is much more chill and less toxic than Legend one, people play purely for fun and challenge there.

[gray island]

Do we have a list of potential perk rolls so we can gauge what we’re aiming to roll for?

[random elm]

has anyone else noticed that the surge staff now has a nauseatingly blurry screen when you charge it

[orchid nacelle]

yes we were just talking about that

moments ago

[cyan notch]

ok but this isnt about cata vs legend its about getting rewarded for doing higher difficulties

[jovial quail]

What perks did you guys focus on for curios btw? I'm going for 10m so that one was a no brainer but the other 2 not really sure what to go for lol

[random elm]

so did they change it?

[snow plover]

What are your favourite Curio perks? I have a whole set just for grimoires and it feels kinda right for those runs as they can get tedious with randoms on higher diffs

[orchid nacelle]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/weapons

[long wharf]

I strongly disagree - my time should be rewarded, as should my choice to play harder content

[random elm]

because I could puke if i looked at it long enough

[stark edge]

https://tenor.com/view/reaction-my-eyes-cant-unsee-burn-gif-7225082

At least 50% of the posts here after the patch drops can be summed up by

[gray island]

Yeah they intentionally added that

[runic hornet]

max-difficulty community for darktide a thousand times more toxic than vt2

And I remember when only emperor's chests had a chance for reds

[random elm]

it's worse than having motion blur on

[runic hornet]

So if you dropped a single book people would just alt-f4 after bitching at you

[gray island]

I know it has weapons and blessing but I haven’t seen perks

[jovial quail]

@runic hornet People forget the first couple years of v2 days lol

[runic hornet]

toxic af

[valid lake]

and the other 50% is the quell bug

[orchid nacelle]

o

[cyan notch]

now if u wanna chase a gun you camp the shop with your infinite money instead of doing any missions at all

[runic hornet]

when cata came out, and it was announced that cata had no rewards over legend, a ton of wannabes bitched about it

[stark edge]

45% surge, 45% purge, 10% some random guy posting his god roll weapon and asking if its good XD

[runic hornet]

fast forward like 4 months ago and pub catas and pick-up/LFG catas were just amazingly wholesome

[weak galleon]

Time proved that concept is right, in VT2. I.e., talking specifically about critical rewards, like higher chance of red items, etc.
The increased gold gain is completely fine, imho.

[abstract frigate]

"How's going out with a bang going for ya?"
"Oh ya know."

[runic hornet]

I join LFGs here and some fucker is flaming me for using what he thinks is the "wrong build" because he's so desperate to get his plasteel

[jovial quail]

Chaos Waste was the saving grace and added another 500 hours to my playtime. Ezpz 3x emperor chest with a fun loop? Count me in lmao.

[spiral remnant]

i envy you

[weak galleon]

it did have extremely good effect on general mood of Cata playerbase.

[night marten]

think darktide is edgier/received more hype, attracted a much more try-hard/younger/toxic crowd

for now anyway

[gray island]

Yeah I don’t want to waste my resources rolling for something that might not exist

[glass thistle]

i love gun or void strike

void stike is like a cheap plasma

[runic hornet]

higher rewards for higher difficulty is good up until a point

[night marten]

just put in 190 hours, it's easy

[long wharf]

people not feeling like they're being rewarded for their time playing... simply stop playing

[stark edge]

Cata was also locked behind a not so popular DLC, so most people on it already knew the game well

[long wharf]

and nothing kills a game faster than losing playerbase

[cyan notch]

increased gold gain but you have no agency of getting anything you want regardless of difficulty and thats extremely dumb

[runic hornet]

i have like 300K dockets

[stark edge]

Also yea higher difficulty stuff should give actually rewards, BUT it should stop at heresy like it did in V"

v2*

[runic hornet]

on my characters, each

[jovial quail]

I have to make artificial goals for myself like reaching 10m and getting the 500 special condition frame by end of year otherwise i'm honestly burning out myself. (Not going for 10m by end of year, just the frame lol)

[runic hornet]

because i have money and the shops are shit

[valid lake]

problem is we also have toxic af speedrunners in the lower threat lvls

[runic hornet]

I actually need tubes

[stark edge]

make the highest difficulty a challenge so that people dont run it because of loot only, cuz thats when you get people speedrunning etc

[orchid nacelle]

i also have this other axe

[gray island]

They fix the Aquila yet? When I checked after patch it wasn’t updated

[runic hornet]

don't forget all the achievement hunters literally trolling your group

god, fuck off

[weak galleon]

The most important thing of Cata was that people didn't go there to farm reds. If people wanted to maximize red farming, they went for Legend, not higher.
People went there (and modded content) to suffer, test themselves, get better at game, get fun, get teamwork.

[valid lake]

the private loobies hopefully will fix that

[stark edge]

I have all the penances, and that shit is on fatshark cuz holy shit those penances are awful

[night marten]

nope

[stark edge]

exactly, Cata was for challenge only. No one really did tomes/grims since if you wanted loot, do legend

[gray island]

Well the speed runners can’t super slide anymore so you got that going for you

[jovial quail]

Lol I blew a veteran off the map because he was being so obnoxious over one of his penances and harassing us. Most satisfying feat on this game so far even over soloing 2 bosses in beta

[abstract sonnet]

Any suggestions on going out with a bang?

[runic hornet]

Trauma staff, 3x rager pull

[orchid nacelle]

i'm still struggling with pick n' mix

[runic hornet]

Hit them twice, they're almost dead

[gray island]

Scammed in the first sentence of the patch notes. Might as well go back to vt2

[runic hornet]

Miss your 3rd trauma and it will explode you

[uncut hamlet]

sometimes crowds of shotgunners spawn, they die in one peril without weakening

[valid lake]

voidstaff solo clutch in prision map

[bleak tulip]

bring a surge to do some damage otherwise not all elites die to explosion

also surge locks em in place so you can position yourself better

alterantively just get lucky

[stark edge]

I got it semi-naturally, obviously you dont blow up on purpose normally tho. Use the surge staff, it damages and stuns just enough to not kill them

[uncut hamlet]

Also they said they added a hub area for penances. Anyone know where it is?

[night marten]

right past the beginning walkway

[long wharf]

why bother running to it? hit escape and click "penances"

[stark edge]

another option, go down to the vox channels below

and find people trying for penances, and ogryn can make it super easy

[hasty ether]

penance book

[abstract sonnet]

Good tips we tried to get it for a friend and struggled. Ran with a shield ogryn and vet intentionally corralling elites.

[uncut hamlet]

ahh okay, thanks

[stark edge]

you basically NEED a dedicated group for a few of them

[runic hornet]

but yeah the thing is in VT2 when you join cata you get all kinds of people
But they're only the people who know they're ready and half of them are doing wacky meme builds on top of that

[snow plover]

Also it feels right to have a friend's private lobby to do some of them not to harass random players

[orchid nacelle]

i was lucky to get a group on heresy who were willing to let me do malleus monstronum

randomly

[night marten]

also my experience

[stark edge]

Nature of any pug group really, sometimes they are gods, sometimes they have no idea what an elite is or why they should care

[gray island]

Chad group

[runic hornet]

here the fact that everyone desperately needs TUUUUBES means you get people raging at you for not bringing what they consider to be meta because when you wipe a 30 minute damnation that's 30 minutes that could have rewarded tubes

toxic af

[weak galleon]

Still didn't get to that one.
Definitely not doing it with current state of BB.

[night marten]

my buddies and I helped a pug fourth get no health taken as vet, felt good lol

[stark edge]

Did mine using this discord, got a full group of 4 people and just cycled round when it was a dark mission

[hasty ether]

most will let you with that one. As long as you communicate it in the beginning of the run

[stark edge]

since a daemonhost is guarenteed to spawn at the start

[weak galleon]

wonder how long it'd take to kill a monster with current quell cap

[runic hornet]

I'm personally past the point of caring about grinding for resources "fast", but a lot of people are blinded by the carrot on the stick

[cyan notch]

havent seen blackout missions recently tho

[night marten]

jesus I can only imagine

[prime herald]

My surge staff got Run n' Gun on Transcendancy, and my sadness is so profound that I can't use the secondary fire while sprinting

[abstract sonnet]

We have a plan to do malleus monsteonum next power outage.... I'll just tank a daemon host while they murder.

[long wharf]

getting upset at a run failing after 30 minutes isn't automatically "toxic"

[lofty barn]

Yo uhhh is the new mission coming any time soon? Wtf is going on with that LOL

[runic hornet]

no, because in vt2 cata you just laugh about it because no one actually "needs" the completion

[stark edge]

just wait for one to pop up, then look in the lfg channels. There will be a few people looking to get it thne

[bleak tulip]

just quell like half a second longer, its not really a huge deal

[gray island]

I got it done with a daemonhost and my ogren bud. I’m surprised Randi’s we’re cool with it

[hasty ether]

they said somewhere it's been delayed

[long wharf]

being a whining man-child is very different from not wanting to play with people who you have no confidence in successfully completing a run

[weak galleon]

even at 80+ it's not enough, apparently

[runic hornet]

i reiterate, anyone doing cata on vt2 is purely doing it to play the game, the W barely even matters, it's just a screen

[weak galleon]

well, 85

[orchid nacelle]

i used kinetic barrage and kinetic flayer

[sonic aspen]

I have the solo the monstrosity done but not this one

[night marten]

depends on what you mean by "upset". that could mean personal insults, or simply being unsatisfied with the team and leaving

[runic hornet]

so people are, in fact,shockingly blase about wiping a run

[orchid nacelle]

i can't confirm but i think brain burst can proc kinetic flayer and cause a second brain burst

[lofty barn]

games as a service? They should do us a service and delete the game and launch it when it’s ready.

[long wharf]

no, insults are never justified

[stark edge]

Only reason in VT2 to do cata is for fun and the cosmetic frames, that most people didnt care about

[long wharf]

that's being a man-child

[runic hornet]

you can go in with a group with 4 meme builds and wipe all evening long and it'll be fun

[bleak tulip]

as I said, half a second more and youre in the low 80's or upper 70's and youre fine, you'll lose seconds overall its not that terrible

[stark edge]

It can, but usually you dont notice

[runic hornet]

why? because if you're doing cata you automatically don't care about completions

[orchid nacelle]

it helped a lot with malleus monstronum

[runic hornet]

if you cared about completions, you'd be doing the lower difficulty legend for rewards

[orchid nacelle]

basically a chance to do double damage

[runic hornet]

If you wipe in darktide you don't get your plasteel and diamantine

and with the state of the shop, the need for plasteel is practically infinite

since the only way to look for blessings is to upgrade weapons to gold

[stark edge]

think it kinda depends, if you lost normally then ah well who cares, if you wiped after 25 mins because someone did something extremely stupid then its annoying

[long wharf]

and my argument is that doing higher difficulties ought to reward you for doing so

[hasty ether]

woo hell yeah just what i needed for my psyker sharpshooter

[stark edge]

Dont think he is saying have it give no rewards, just make them the same as heresy

[runic hornet]

high-er, yes, but there's a cutoff point, high-est should not reward moer because it creates a perverse incentive for people who are quite frankly not ready

[stark edge]

that way the hardest difficulty is just there for a fun challenge, not because its optimal for farming gear

[hasty ether]

or is it veteran psykinetic

[runic hornet]

"you did best so you should get the best" is a fairly typical ideal but in practice it creates friction

[hasty ether]

so hard to remember with all the guns i keep getting

[orchid nacelle]

why don't they just make kinetic flayer a guaranteed proc

[long wharf]

I'm fine with that, but right now we get no gauranteed rewards for doing higher difficulties

[runic hornet]

I mean with the state of the shop

literally nothing is guarnateed

[long wharf]

there is no "you did best", either the team succeeds or the team fails

[abstract sonnet]

I did have a lot of fun on my psyker with a tactical axe. Hits very hard.

[glass thistle]

gauranteed more upgrade mats

[manic needle]

Why dont they make it so you can just customize your weapons for the build that you like? lol

[runic hornet]

that's why I just play the game and have fun, i have more fun with a stumbling bumbling pub heresy than a smooth as butter LFG damnation where we play 4 vets with powerswords

[valid lake]

the shop is so bad you have to pray to tzeench for good drops

[manic needle]

Fatshark has a huge raging boner for RNG

[long wharf]

that'd be immeasurably complex

[stark edge]

Oh yea I don't disagree there, bar the slightly different crafting mats and more money (to add to my scrooge mcduck sized collection) there isnt any incentive to play a reasonable difficulty for your skill bar challenge

[cyan notch]

i just quickplay everything

[orchid nacelle]

also a good question

[cyan notch]

lfg is mid

[runic hornet]

do you have a scroogemcduck supply of plasteel

[stark edge]

which is semi fine but its dumb to have level 30s spamming difficulty 1-3 because its just better to farm on

[runic hornet]

because I need more plasteel

[stark edge]

if only

[runic hornet]

I have, i think at this point more than 1 million dockets between my 4 characters

I don't have any plasteel lmao

[stark edge]

I made the mistake of playing all 4 classes, so i have fuck all crafting on most :/

[cyan notch]

idk its not really i ran sedition and only got 40 plasteel for searching the whole map

[runic hornet]

yeah I have like 300K dockets or more on all characters

[manic needle]

I still have not, and probably never will, find a group to help me with my penances. I refuse to try and do them in random lobbies for fear of absolutely ruining them

[abstract sonnet]

Lore the secret answer is always lore.

[hasty ether]

The official response to this was "because this isn't call of duty and we don't plan on making COD"

[long wharf]

the crafting materials needed aren't balanced well for what we get from missions

[runic hornet]

you spam sedition for the 25-clears for melkcoin

[stark edge]

Yea they might have nerfed it from what people said

[runic hornet]

that one fucking mission

[valid lake]

this hurts i did the same but should have stuck to just one class we proboly would have been better off

[stark edge]

I dont even bother with melks stuff

[runic hornet]

is why so many people are grinding 1s

[stark edge]

it isnt even better than the normal shop usually

[cyan notch]

not of any importance to me since ill do more than 25 a week anyway

[runic hornet]

across four characters?

damn son

[cyan notch]

i dont play all 4

[shadow quail]

I've got a few decent curios from it

[manic needle]

Yeah for some reason Devs who use "RPG elements" in games tend to have a really elitist attitude towards mainstream shooters.

Given the state of Darktide, maybe they shouldn't.

[runic hornet]

yeah that's just it

[stark edge]

eh, its more fun for me to understand all 4 so i understand the game better

[runic hornet]

people want to get their melkcoin on more than 1 character

[snow plover]

because they need grind to buy themselves some time 😄

[runic hornet]

and the fastest way to do that is speedrunning 1s

[stark edge]

so when i see an ogryn charge into a vets firing line i can feel bad for the vets suffering

then remember they have the power sword and stop caring

[long wharf]

melkcoins (I hate this name) ought to be shared across characters

[runic hornet]

and it 's to the point they'd rather have no-fun for lke... 5 hours

[long wharf]

all currencies ought to be account-wide

[cyan notch]

i aint playing more than 2 characters until they have shared currency

[remote kraken]

What did they do to us in this update

[hasty ether]

yeah they really have a stick up their end about copying someone elses homework....even their own.....

[runic hornet]

Than play normally for 10 hours

[weak galleon]

btw, how much is the current difference in crafting supplies between damnation/heresy?
Mostly sitting on Heresy since my friends didnt want to move to damnation yet.

[remote kraken]

@fatshark what did you do to my boy look at how you massacred him

[stark edge]

Tbf, optimising/min-maxing is fun for a lot of people, myself included. Just this system makes it extremely rng so I dont engage

the others must like it or just be so used to it that they will do it anyway

[cyan notch]

although melkbucks being shared might force people who only play 1 character to do all their weeklies on alts just for more gambling or purchases

[remote kraken]

How are people with epilepsy supposed to use the surge staff.....

[hasty ether]

honestly not much considering the extra time it takes.

[stark edge]

Die for the emperor?

[scarlet barn]

whats the best staff for damage?

[bleak tulip]

melkies

[long wharf]

they aren't

[valid lake]

thats what happened

[weak galleon]

ty

[bleak tulip]

youre welcome

[stark edge]

Damage on what?

[remote kraken]

We got nerfed so hard in this patch

[hasty ether]

if it's on your eyes and brain then the surge staff

[simple dove]

you can use all of them to kys

[stark edge]

Void for horde clear, surge for elites (sorta, more cc), purge is ok for horde and elites

[remote kraken]

people have clips of damage comparisons from last patch to this one its really wretched to see psyker get nuked this hard

[long wharf]

purge got a stealth damage buff to soulblaze dot

[cyan notch]

where

[stark edge]

Thought the soulblace was the same but the staff did more damage?

cuz i know the level 30 talent is still awful

[scarlet barn]

does purge do soulblaze damage?

[long wharf]

oh, the lvl 30 feat still needs to be reworked

[stark edge]

Yes, it applies soulblaze stacks

[runic hornet]

Trauma

[remote kraken]

You are worse than a vet at killing speicals and worse than a zealot with a flamer at killing hordes now

[long wharf]

the purge attacks themselves do not count as soulblaze damage

[runic hornet]

Trauma is better than ogyrn rumbler and people are sleeping on it

[stark edge]

Correction, the entire psyker tree needs to be reworked

[remote kraken]

rip pskyer

we have the worst passives and they destroy us further

[stark edge]

Trauma is cool, but kinda bad 😦

[long wharf]

easily the most obviously stupid design decision FatDevs made for psykers

[runic hornet]

embrace living at 100 perils
Get used to the rhythm of 2.5 traumas -> pulling your melee weapon and roleplaying a zealot for 7-10 seconds (the time it takes to passive quell)

[orchid nacelle]

what's everyone's dream for psyker

[bleak tulip]

check the pins, stop whining

[stark edge]

IDK, designing the whole class around BB, then deciding BB spam is not good gameplay (which it isnt) and nerfing the ability instead of fixing the tree

[valid lake]

still better at kys execpt vet can also do that with plasma

[cyan notch]

peril

[remote kraken]

No one is whining get real

[runic hornet]

If you think of it as "I have 2 rumbler shots every 10 seconds, but better" then it's eyeopening just how strong it is

if you've played ogyrn and know how strong rumbler is

[scarlet barn]

I would kinda like brain burst to be an aoe

[stark edge]

But i could just play zealot instead

also why not do that with a surge staff, you get the peril and the cc

[valid lake]

rumbler is love i might just main oygrn for that thing

[runic hornet]

CC isn't even close, 8m blast radius from trauma is key

[orchid nacelle]

I really wish Psyker would have released with a forcefield instead of the skyrim force shout it has now

[runic hornet]

I miss 360degree vermintide "shout" ults, yeah

[scarlet barn]

IDK what psykers can do in lore tho

[stark edge]

True, but you are only really CC'ing hordes

[runic hornet]

the cone is wonky

[long wharf]

a forcefield isn't in line with FatDevs calling the psyker a "glass cannon"

[runic hornet]

you hard knockdown ogyrns and ragers and maulers too

[brave vale]

reapers are carapced armored targets right?

[orchid nacelle]

forcefield has obvious utility of forcing your team to stand cloes together behind the forcefield to take advantage of coherence

[runic hornet]

Even a small explosion, if it's epicentre, does a hard knockdown